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[PAULA] My name is Paula Pant,
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and I'm the founder of AffordAnything.com.
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We are here to help people
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save, earn more, invest, retire.
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The way that we manage our money
influences every aspect of our lives,
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and yet no one ever
formally teaches it to us.
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Because of that, people are missing out
on opportunities to make money.
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[ANNOUNCER] We have expert Ro$$ Mac
coming to the stage.
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For me,
it was always Black wealth matters.
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And the way I wanted to do that
was through information
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and educating the community.
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{\an8}Welcome to this week's episode
of Maconomics. I'm your host Ro$$ Mac.
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We are joined now
by financial expert Tiffany Aliche
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who is also
a New York Times best-selling author
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of Get Good with Money.
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I'm almost like the preschool teacher
of financial education.
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I really focus on the fundamentals.
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Budgeting, saving, credit, debt,
and learning to earn.
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These are the first steps
to what I call financial wholeness.
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[NEWSCASTER] He's now become
{\an8}a personal finance guru,
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{\an8}and not because he made millions,
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{\an8}but because he cut back
in some radical ways.
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On the Internet,
my name is Mr. Money Mustache,
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and 15 years ago, I had a dream
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and was able to retire
just before my 31st birthday.
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[AUDIENCE APPLAUDS]
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The thing about money is
it really is not very complicated,
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but what can you use it for
other than just buying more stuff?
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You can buy freedom with money,
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where you never have
to worry about money again,
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but that's not what
we're trained to do in this country.
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[ALARM BEEPING]
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["BILLS" BY LUNCHMONEY LEWIS PLAYS]
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♪ I got bills ♪
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♪ I gotta pay ♪
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♪ So I'ma gon' work, work
Work every day ♪
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♪ I got mouths ♪
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♪ I gotta feed ♪
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♪ So I'ma gon' make sure everybody eats ♪
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So everybody wants
to get better at money, right?
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Maybe your budget is out of whack.
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Your debt is mounting.
You don't know how to earn.
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This year, we're gonna try something
strange and different and hopefully fun.
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{\an8}[TIFFANY] I'm going to gift one of you
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one year of personal financial coaching.
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You'll win a year of financial
and investing coaching from yours truly.
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♪ I got bills ♪
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♪ I gotta pay ♪
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♪ So I'ma gon' work, work
Work every day ♪
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♪ I got mouths ♪
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♪ I gotta feed ♪
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♪ So I'ma gon' make sure everybody eats ♪
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{\an8}Now how do you enter
to work with me one-on-one?
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I want you to create a video,
and in that video,
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I want you to share who you are,
what you need help with.
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I'm looking to get some financial help
because we're trying to start a family.
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Hopefully, by the end of the year...
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I've got a little money in savings,
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and I'd love to learn some ways
to have it do more...
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{\an8}I've never put a budget together.
I don't even know where to start.
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I just have no idea
how much I should be paying,
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how much I should be saving...
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$30,000 of student loan debt,
which I may pay off in my 50s or 60s...
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{\an8}How do you get ahead
without taking out loans...
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{\an8}Honestly I have no idea what we're doing
when it comes to retirement.
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{\an8}I am definitely
in a paycheck-to-paycheck cycle...
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I currently have minimal funds
in my bank account...
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I never had that financial education...
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Are we investing in the right areas...
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I definitely need help managing my money...
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- I really appreciate your help...
- Could really use your help...
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- [WOMAN] ...help.
- [MAN] I need help.
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Hi, I'm Kim and this is John.
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We are earning a lot for the first time.
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{\an8}Uh, we're also spending a lot
and want to know what to do
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{\an8}with that money.
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{\an8}Uh, whether that's early retirement,
or even what the options are.
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Kim and John are
kind of the perfect candidates
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for financial freedom
and early retirement.
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That just means you have
more free time, more mental health,
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more time to spend with your kids.
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{\an8}Hi, I'm Ariana.
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{\an8}I am an emotional spender.
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{\an8}I am currently buried
in a mountain of debt.
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I am super, super, super excited
about meeting Ariana.
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Teaching women how to gain confidence
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about their money is kind of my jam.
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{\an8}My name's Teez. I got a big payday.
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{\an8}A lot of money sitting in the bank.
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{\an8}I know I should invest it,
but I don't know where to start.
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{\an8}Teez, I would look at him and say he's
the epitome of a normal athlete, right?
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You come from the inner city,
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then you're thrust into
making a lot of money.
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He doesn't necessarily know
what to do with it.
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{\an8}Hi there. Um, I'm Lindsey.
I've been living paycheck to paycheck.
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{\an8}I have two jobs,
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{\an8}but I still haven't been able
to save up any money,
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{\an8}and I'm trying to break out of this cycle.
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{\an8}Lindsey doesn't realize it,
but she has so much going for her.
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to launch a new career,
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this is absolutely
the best time in her life
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for her to be able to take those risks.
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[LINDSEY] When I was in high school,
I knew exactly what I wanted to do.
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I was like, "Yes,
this is what's gonna happen."
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Go to college, go to fashion school,
get an internship, get a job,
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and by the age of 35,
be a name-brand designer.
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One day, I begged my mom
for a sewing machine.
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I wanted to make my ideas come to life.
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Then we started looking
at fashion schools for me to apply to.
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That's where I really learned
to hone my skills.
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I will say I never completed school,
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but I at least learned the basics.
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So, I had this plan,
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but things change.
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Hi. How are y'all doing today?
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- Good. How are you?
- Good.
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- We have a keg of beer so far.
- [MAN] Watermelon...
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Watermelon, hell yeah.
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I have two jobs right now.
I am a waitress at a beer garden,
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and I am also a bartender at a brewery.
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I have you at $7.00 today.
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Two jobs, 50 hours a week.
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- Y'all doing okay? Lovely.
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[LINDSEY] I don't really have
a lot of time to be me.
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Here you go.
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Because it's all about
making that money just to survive.
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I've got y'all's beer ready.
Sorry about the wait.
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{\an8}When I get my paychecks,
the first thing I do is pay my bills.
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{\an8}But, when you're waitressing,
you don't know how much you're gonna make.
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{\an8}I have not been able to pay all my bills
for about 14 months now.
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{\an8}My biggest issue is not just
that it doesn't pay more money,
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but I wish I could have health insurance.
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I struggle with depression and anxiety,
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and I would like to take medication for it
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because I know that it would help me.
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However, I can't afford that.
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The amount of money I make
definitely eats at me inside.
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How I strive to be this image
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that I grew up to believe was successful.
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I just don't feel like
where I'm supposed to be
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at this point in my life.
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I feel like I am putting in a lot of work
and a lot of labor and a lot of hours,
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and there's only so much
that I can put in,
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but I don't want to be living
paycheck to paycheck anymore.
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[PAULA] Hey, Instagram.
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{\an8}Today, we're talking about reimagining
the way we earn money.
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So that's exactly what I did
when I ditched my nine-to-five
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and built an online business.
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And I want to help you find
a sustainable way to make money.
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A way that matches your talents
and sparks your passion.
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So, tell me about you.
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Well, I am a waitress,
and I am a bartender,
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but my ultimate dream is
to do something with art.
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- Lindsey, how old are you?
- I am 27 years old.
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- [PAULA] Twenty-seven. Okay.
- Yes.
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So, I'll tell you
about myself in my twenties.
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When I graduated from college,
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I got a job as a newspaper reporter
and I made $21,000 a year.
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That's the equivalent
of making $11.50 an hour.
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I was always really frugal,
but I kept trying to save money.
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- To improve my financial situation.
- Right.
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So in spending,
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the average American spends
the majority of their money
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on the big three.
Housing, transportation, food.
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If you cut back on those three things,
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that's where you're going to get
the biggest savings.
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Downsizing your house or apartment,
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taking on a roommate,
renting out a room on Airbnb,
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those are ways you can
significantly reduce your housing costs.
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[LINDSEY] Okay.
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[PAULA] And you live someplace
where a car is necessary,
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go for the cheapest option
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that will safely get you
from point A to point B.
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Nothing fancy, just utilitarian.
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Wonderful. All right, so tell me more
about, like, your food habits, generally.
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I would say a majority of what we spend
our food money on is take-out.
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- That's one thing I want to stop doing.
- Hmm.
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[LINDSEY] My fiancé and I are both
in the service industry.
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We've been around a kitchen all day.
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The last thing we wanna do is
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spend an hour cooking.
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[PAULA] First of all,
restaurant food is more expensive
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than food that you make yourself.
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- [LINDSEY] Oh, absolutely.
- [PAULA] Then there's delivery charges.
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And you're in the service industry,
so I'm sure you're a good tipper,
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which is great, but like, that adds up.
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[LINDSEY] It does.
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[PAULA] So instead of getting take-out,
start meal prepping.
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Go to the grocery store once a week.
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Do a big batch run
of pre-cooked meals for the whole week.
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Fantastic.
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Spending less is
the quick and easy solution,
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but there's a limit
to how much you can frugal down.
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There's no limit to how much you can make.
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I just wish I was making more,
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and one of the main drawbacks
to the service industry
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is the lack of benefits.
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You could try to find
some type of side hustle
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or some type of work
that you do on your own...
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[LINDSEY] Hmm.
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...that makes enough money
that it compensates for that.
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- Okay.
- [PAULA] Right?
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So, let's talk about
the income side of the equation.
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- That's where the real potential exists.
- Yes.
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What I saw was that in order to make more,
I was gonna have to go independent
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and start my own side hustle,
start my own business.
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There are two different types of side gigs
that I want you to be thinking about.
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Okay.
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One is gig economy stuff.
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And so that's immediate,
short-term, quick cash,
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something where boom,
you can make money today.
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What other types of jobs
do you think could fill in that gap?
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I used to, uh, dog sit for families.
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I love dogs. I love being around animals.
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- A side hustle dog walking or dog sitting...
- [LINDSEY] Mm-hmm.
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...that's gonna get money
in the door this week.
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And then also there is the art aspect.
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I'm really good at illustration.
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If you can sketch really quickly,
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imagine if you went to a dog park
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and you walked up to someone
and you're like, "Hey, I love your dog."
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"Do you mind if I just do
a little 2-minute sketch?"
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You give them that sketch.
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You put your phone number at the bottom.
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By the way, I walk dogs.
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I love that idea!
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And then the other type of side gig is
building out your own business,
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but it's going to take a lot longer.
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[LINDSEY] At some point, I would like
to get out of the service industry.
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Deep down at my core,
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I am an artist, and I always have been.
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I do a little bit of everything.
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I do painting.
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I make costumes.
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And that's been my dream my entire life
of what I would like to do.
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[PAULA] So the most important thing is
that you have the hustle.
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I've got the drive and the heart.
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I feel like
I just don't have the know-how.
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- Easy. Easy. I got that. I got that.
- [LINDSEY] Awesome. [CHUCKLES]
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Art is my passion.
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So I would love to find a way
to make money from my art.
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That is the ultimate dream.
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[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
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[DOOR OPENS]
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[TEEZ] Growing up, you look
at playing football as this big dream.
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You know, the promised land.
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It takes one person to break through
the generations of poverty
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or living paycheck to paycheck.
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[WOMAN] I love the pink one.
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Go show Daddy. You can show him.
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[TEEZ] Oh, Mama. A princess.
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You look sweet!
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You got on your crown.
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Who your best friend?
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My best friend Mama.
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- [WOMAN LAUGHS]
- Oh.
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- You played me.
- [WOMAN LAUGHS]
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[TEEZ] I thought
Daddy was your best friend.
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[CHUCKLES]
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[TEEZ] Somebody like me,
a young, Black African-American male,
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that come from where I come from,
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I thought football was the only way
to make money and make a lot of it.
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[COMMENTATOR 1] It's off! Tabor!
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Picked up by Tabor.
Tabor racing to the endzone!
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[TEEZ] After my third season in college,
everybody was talking about me.
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[COMMENTATOR 2] One of the best
quarterbacks in the nation is Teez Tabor.
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This could be a pick six!
Touchdown! Tabor!
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[TEEZ] Once I realized
I can make a career out of it,
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it was no way I could stay in school.
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They talk about you making beaucoup bucks.
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You got people you gotta take care of.
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[MAN] With the 53rd pick,
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in the 2017 master football league draft,
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the Detroit Lions
have selected Teez Tabor.
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{\an8}[CROWD CHEERS]
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{\an8}[TEEZ] My first check says 1.6 million.
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{\an8}A young kid from Maryland,
21, instantly rich.
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{\an8}But I had to pay my agent out the gate,
and taxes is 40%.
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{\an8}I bought my mother a house.
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{\an8}I bought this house.
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{\an8}A couple jewelry pieces.
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{\an8}[SCREEN WHIRRING]
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Those were the big purchases.
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I went to Paris.
I went to Saint Lucia, Hawaii.
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Man...
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But I went from 1.6 to two-something.
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Two eighty. I'm like, "This will go fast."
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{\an8}I'm gonna cool off
'cause I see how quick it can go.
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[REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE]
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Only goal in mind
was keep playing football.
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The money will keep coming in.
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I played two seasons in Detroit.
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[COMMENTATOR] On the sideline,
he makes the catch,
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right in front of Teez Tabor.
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[TEEZ] Everybody in the NFL know
if you're not producing at a high level,
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they're gonna get rid of you.
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[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS]
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I ended up getting released.
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After I got released from Detroit,
I ended up going to San Fran.
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But I break my foot
right before training camp.
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So, they had to release me.
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{\an8}Right there.
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{\an8}[GRUNTS SOFTLY]
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[TEEZ] My world came crashing down.
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[THERAPIST] Let's take it back down.
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[TEEZ] There were some long nights.
Some long nights thinking like, "Why me?"
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"Why get me all the way here
and then take it away from me?"
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[CAR ENGINE REVVING]
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That made me take a step back
and open my eyes up to my money.
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One of my good friends told me
about the guy who they feel help people
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with their finances.
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- What's good, brodie?
- Yes, sir.
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- Oh. How you livin', fool?
- I'm good. How are you?
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Man, I'm all good, thank you.
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[RO$$] I'm a financial educator.
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{\an8}I opened up my brokerage account
to start buying stocks at the age of 18.
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I'm 31 now, but I'm close
to being financially free already.
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My kids will be financially free.
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What we're talking about
right now is the future,
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{\an8}and the way
you get invested in it right now
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{\an8}is getting out
of your own logic of thinking.
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[RO$$] You know, I ended up working
at Morgan Stanley for three years,
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so for me it's like, man, I just want
to start helping our community get
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better exposure to investing.
Better exposure to financial literacy.
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{\an8}Like, when did it trigger in your mind,
like, "All right, I need to be investing,"
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{\an8}or any conversations like that?
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{\an8}I felt like after my second season,
when I ended up getting hurt,
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me realizing like,
"What are you going to do?"
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Football's been my life
since I was four years old,
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so when I step outside this box,
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I don't even know where to go,
like, where to even start.
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I'm a fish out of water.
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-Mm-hmm
-[TEEZ] You know...
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We gotta look at this and say like,
"What happens right now?"
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- If you never get another football check.
- Right.
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[RO$$] And you don't know where to start.
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The easiest way to become a player
at the game,
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just put your money in the S&P 500
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because on average,
that's gonna grow at 10% each year.
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So what is that... You said S&P S...
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S&P 500. They made...
They made an index to say
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we're gonna buy
all of these 500 companies.
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[SCREEN WHIRRING]
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[RO$$] So, look, when you're thinking
about investing, here's the...
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Put it in layman's terms, right?
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By buying a stock,
you literally are able to buy
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a very small piece of a company.
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An index fund is
literally a basket of stocks.
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You're not just buying one stock.
You get to buy a basket of them.
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And what's great about it,
it gives you inherent diversity.
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In the S&P 500,
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{\an8}you have all the sectors
that you could think of.
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{\an8}Retail companies. There's banks.
You got healthcare companies.
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{\an8}Technology companies.
You got oil and gas, airlines.
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Now, obviously, the market,
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you can have disclaimers
that the market could go down.
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There are years
the market could go down 10%,
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but Warren Buffet,
if you google him right now,
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he's going to tell anybody...
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He's the smartest investor of all time.
He make money the slow way.
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Right? He's going to tell you,
anybody at the crib,
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Mom and Pop,
Grandma know, Uncle Ray Ray know,
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- just put your money in the S&P 500...
- Put your money...
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...and it's gonna really build over time.
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- All right. Let's get into it.
- For sure.
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- [WOMAN] Whoo!
- [GIRL LAUGHS]
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- Not so fast! Want fast? Okay.
- Run in the grass though! Be careful!
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[TEEZ] Our parents always taught us
how to, like, fend for ourselves.
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A hustler's mentality, so,
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that's what they did teach us, uh,
but as far as, uh, savings plans,
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investment plans,
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we... we don't know. It's...
It's a language that's never taught to us.
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Daddy gonna catch you.
Daddy gonna catch you.
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- [WOMAN LAUGHS]
- [GIRL LAUGHS]
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I wanna go to the skies.
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You wanna go to the skies?
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[TEEZ] I just wanna help my daughter.
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- Okay. One...
- One, two, three, four.
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[LAUGHS AND SCREAMS]
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[TEEZ] I wanna make it easier for her
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than, you know,
my people's made it for me.
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- [TEEZ] Whoo. Yum.
- [LAUGHS]
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[ARIANA] "The night Max wore his wolf suit
and made mischief of one kind
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and another..."
Look, he's chasing the puppy.
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He's chasing the puppy.
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He's chasing the puppy.
"...his mother called him Wild Thing
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and Max said, 'I'll eat you up!'
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so he was sent to his bed
without anything to eat."
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Oh no!
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Money was something
to be spent growing up.
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My parents came
from the Dominican Republic
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when I was three.
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And I distinctly remember
my parents having a lot of conversations
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around like, "Well, we deserve this,"
or "I want this so I'm going to buy this."
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I was the first person in my family
to go to college.
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It was like,
"Just take out loans. It's fine."
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But no one explained to me
my student loans were accruing interest
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from the minute I signed them.
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Or like, why are you
allowing an 18-year-old
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to take out $25,000 a year?
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Like, how is that okay?
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And now I'm sitting here
with $108,000 in student loans.
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[BABY COOING]
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[MUMBLES]
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The credit card spending
started when I was young.
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[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
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I got my first job out of college,
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and I wound up getting an apartment
in New York that I couldn't afford.
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With no savings.
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And it went from there.
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Brunch was easily, like,
$100 every weekend.
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And then, like, my friends were going out,
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and, you know,
they were all buying new clothes.
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I couldn't always afford it.
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But I was like, "I deserve this,"
or "I had a really hard week. It's fine."
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And then we had kids.
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And then Amazon and Target became things.
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I got more credit cards.
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Buying things for the kids,
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buying clothes,
buying things to entertain ourselves with.
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I look around sometimes,
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{\an8}and it's almost like
I see dollar signs everywhere.
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If I look back
at the credit card statements,
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I couldn't even tell you what it was.
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And just like buying to buy.
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My husband was covering
the majority of bills
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so I can focus on paying things off.
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And it just didn't happen. Like, I tried.
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I wound up getting personal loans
to pay off the cards
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to make it one lump payment
and a lower interest rate.
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And that decreased my monthly payments,
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which was helpful because, you know,
I wasn't making that much money,
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but then it freed up all my credit cards.
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And they wound up getting maxed out again.
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{\an8}- Okay.
- [BABY COOS]
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{\an8}[SIZZLING]
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It feels like
I'm just gonna always have debt.
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Like, I just am not making
the right decisions.
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[TIFFANY] One of the first steps you have
to take when you're that deep in a hole,
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is you have to ask for help.
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{\an8}I know firsthand
there are other people that were in debt
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{\an8}that are no longer in debt.
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{\an8}Tiffany Aliche was a preschool teacher
who lost it all and fell into debt
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{\an8}during the recession in 2008.
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I was 30 years old
with $300,000 plus in debt.
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I was like, "Okay. Let me start
with the bare-bones basics."
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Let me list my bills.
Let me figure out what my expenses are.
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{\an8}She pulled herself out of debt
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{\an8}and began teaching
financial literacy seminars to women.
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[TIFFANY] What I just shared with Ariana
is even though I made
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every mistake possible with my money,
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I was able to regain my footing,
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and so can she.
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So, how do you feel that you do
when it comes to spending?
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[CHUCKLES]
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- Depends on the week.
- [BOTH LAUGH]
465
00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:30,237
Um... [BREATHES DEEPLY]
466
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,113
There are some days that I'm really good,
467
00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,241
and I spend literally
no money on anything,
468
00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:37,452
and then there are other days
where it's not so great,
469
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,665
and I talk myself into buying things
that we don't necessarily need.
470
00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:43,458
- Before you spend any money...
- Mm-hmm.
471
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:46,044
...there are four questions
you should really ask yourself.
472
00:25:46,127 --> 00:25:47,504
And those four questions are:
473
00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:49,506
- Do I need it?
- [ARIANA] Mm-hmm.
474
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:51,550
- Do I love it?
- [ARIANA] Okay.
475
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:53,218
- Do I like it?
- [ARIANA] Okay.
476
00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:54,302
Do I want it?
477
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,556
Need it, love it, like it, want it.
I'm gonna write these down for you.
478
00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:58,640
Okay.
479
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:01,851
Your needs are, "I must have this thing
480
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:05,480
to maintain the health
and safety of myself and my family."
481
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,815
- Okay.
- [TIFFANY] Right?
482
00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:08,400
So give me some examples of some needs.
483
00:26:08,483 --> 00:26:10,527
- Mortgage, groceries.
- Mortgage. Mm-hmm.
484
00:26:11,152 --> 00:26:12,612
Loves are this.
485
00:26:12,696 --> 00:26:15,907
I want you to imagine if you had...
Who is one of the wealthiest people
486
00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:18,910
in the world that you're like, "There's
someone that can talk about wealth."
487
00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:21,454
- Oprah. [LAUGHS]
- I was gonna say, yup! [LAUGHS]
488
00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:24,332
- Everybody, right? If you had...
- [ARIANA] Oprah money.
489
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,751
- You get a car! You get a car!
- [TIFFANY] Everybody! [LAUGHS]
490
00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:27,794
Yeah! Like...
491
00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:31,047
Yes, if you had Oprah money,
what would you do or do more of?
492
00:26:31,631 --> 00:26:32,549
Oh God.
493
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:34,718
[ARIANA EXHALES]
494
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:37,137
- Go on vacation. Travel with the kids.
- Right?
495
00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:40,056
And often times we skip over love
'cause it can be a little pricey.
496
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:41,433
- Yeah.
- You know?
497
00:26:41,516 --> 00:26:43,977
So we skip right to likes and wants.
498
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:46,354
So a like is something
that will bring you joy
499
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:48,106
for about less than six months.
500
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:49,899
And so wants are just...
501
00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:52,152
There's no joy there,
just temporary satisfaction.
502
00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,864
I feel like most of the things
I buy from Amazon fall into that category.
503
00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,407
- [TIFFANY] Okay.
- [ARIANA] It's like...
504
00:26:57,490 --> 00:27:00,702
- It's easy to press that purchase button.
- [TIFFANY] Yes.
505
00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:05,415
I want you to think of your needs
and loves like a quadrant, right?
506
00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:10,295
So needs and loves are on this side
and then likes and wants on this side.
507
00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:13,715
So when you are focused
on your needs and your loves,
508
00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:16,551
you're really living in more of your life.
509
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:19,220
And when you're focused
on your likes and your wants,
510
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,306
you're really living less of a life.
511
00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,141
[SOOTHING MUSIC PLAYS]
512
00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:27,979
At the end of this journey,
if I can... not be afraid of money,
513
00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:33,693
if I can have the confidence
to know that I will get out of debt
514
00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,612
and I will stay out debt,
515
00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:38,490
it would be huge.
516
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,496
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
517
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,541
{\an8}[JOHN] Do you want kids or kitchen?
518
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:49,542
{\an8}[KIM] I don't care.
519
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:50,502
[JOHN] Okay.
520
00:27:51,252 --> 00:27:52,587
I'll do kids.
521
00:27:53,296 --> 00:27:55,298
- Just yell if you need me.
- [JOHN] Okay.
522
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,718
Beep, beep, beep, beep.
523
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,096
There you go! All right!
524
00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:02,305
I'm an engineer.
525
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:04,849
- Nice job!
- [BOY] Nice job!
526
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:08,478
[JOHN] When COVID hit,
they cut a bunch of the team.
527
00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:12,148
And I was just part of the...
part of the cut.
528
00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:16,277
I'm a stay-at-home dad now.
529
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,447
Good, buddy.
Oh, should we put gas in the car?
530
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,909
- Like that's my primary responsibility.
- [BOY] It's Dad.
531
00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:26,079
[CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS]
532
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,381
Right now, John does everything.
533
00:28:36,464 --> 00:28:37,882
Like everything.
534
00:28:42,345 --> 00:28:43,304
It's a lot.
535
00:28:45,598 --> 00:28:47,726
And it's not always been that way for us,
536
00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:50,562
but he's had to learn all of it.
537
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,565
- [JOHN] I'm super happy about it.
- [KIM] Yeah.
538
00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:59,070
[JOHN] 'Cause I have
an amazing bond with our kids.
539
00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:00,947
[KIM] You do, which is so beautiful.
540
00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:04,743
And I'm, like, really jealous
all the time. [LAUGHS]
541
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:08,663
And then my ego gets jealous of,
you know, how successful you are.
542
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,125
- Like, 'cause you are really successful.
- Yeah.
543
00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:17,005
It's just so ingrained
that the way I contribute as a man
544
00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:18,214
is to make money.
545
00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:19,215
What's up?
546
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,219
[KIM] When he started being
a stay-at-home dad,
547
00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:28,224
I really struggled
with becoming the sole income maker
548
00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:31,644
and working so much
and being unavailable for my kids.
549
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,814
Hello!
550
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:37,358
- [WOMAN] Hi! [LAUGHS]
- How are you?
551
00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:44,532
I am a psychotherapist
and women's empowerment coach.
552
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:48,203
There's all kinds of different ways
that you can embody a change,
553
00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:49,621
a transformation.
554
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:54,918
Part of the reason
that we chose to have John stay at home
555
00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:58,254
is because my business
was growing financially.
556
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:00,924
It was exponential growth.
557
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:04,803
In 2018, it was maybe 70K for the year.
558
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:09,390
And then in 2020, it was about 150,
559
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:14,020
and then this year,
in theory, I'll be around 300.
560
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:18,775
But every time we make more money,
we spend more money.
561
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,572
I want to kind of like,
go to the other end of the spectrum
562
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,950
and learn how to save,
563
00:30:27,033 --> 00:30:29,494
but we need... we definitely need
somebody to help us with that.
564
00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:30,495
But we learned... Yeah.
565
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:32,664
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS]
566
00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:36,417
{\an8}You're about to meet a young man
who retired at the age of 30.
567
00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:38,461
- Let's get rid of this mop.
- [CLIPPER BUZZES]
568
00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:42,632
When you do the math on this,
it's something like $10,000 of haircuts
569
00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:44,843
that this $40 device has saved me.
570
00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:48,596
[REPORTER 1] He preaches
{\an8}his financial gospel on his popular blog,
571
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,306
{\an8}Mr. Money Mustache.
572
00:30:51,307 --> 00:30:53,935
[MAN] It has become
a worldwide cult phenomenon,
573
00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:57,188
which has grown to reach
about 23 million different people
574
00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,399
since its inception.
575
00:30:59,482 --> 00:31:02,777
[KIM] I've gotten
Mr. Money Mustache's emails for years,
576
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,863
and I didn't even think
that was a possibility
577
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:06,364
that you could retire early.
578
00:31:07,031 --> 00:31:10,827
I just assumed that my life
was going to be just what's expected.
579
00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:15,748
You work until you're 65,
and then you can finally have a life.
580
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:20,253
{\an8}- [MAN] Happy to finally meet y'all!
- [BOTH] How are you doing?
581
00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:22,505
{\an8}[MAN] So like, what brings you to me,
582
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:24,716
{\an8}and what's your goal
in changing your life?
583
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:28,803
{\an8}We're on the cusp of a high income.
584
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,265
And so now that we have this resource,
585
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,976
we want the tangible steps
where we can set ourselves up
586
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,604
for the next five, ten years with a plan.
587
00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:40,773
So that we can be
financially independent after that.
588
00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:44,110
Like, what tangible steps
did you take at age 30?
589
00:31:44,193 --> 00:31:46,321
I was just earning
kind of an engineer's salary,
590
00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:48,656
which back in that day was $80,000 a year...
591
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,699
[JOHN] Hmm.
592
00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:54,203
...and cutting our expenses
where we were living on $40,000 a year.
593
00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:57,832
You invest the surplus
in just a standard index fund,
594
00:31:57,916 --> 00:31:59,792
and it just kind of builds up.
595
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:03,004
And then when we got
to the level of investments,
596
00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,006
um, that was enough to live on,
597
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:07,133
that was when
we felt safe quitting our jobs.
598
00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,469
And the definition of "enough to live on"
599
00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:13,264
just very roughly is that you have
25 times your living expenses
600
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:14,307
in investments.
601
00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:17,226
If your expenses are $100,000 a year,
602
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:21,731
you need 2.5 million dollars invested
to sustain that lifestyle.
603
00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:25,693
So it's not really your income
that matters. It's your spending choices.
604
00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:29,906
So I think the first step would be
figuring out where your money is going,
605
00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:32,158
like, what do you think
is the most spendy stuff?
606
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:35,370
- [KIM] This is the embarrassing part.
- [PETE] Okay, this is great.
607
00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:39,040
So I see shopping,
which is a very big category.
608
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:41,834
- [KIM LAUGHS] Yeah.
- It's almost $2,000 a month.
609
00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:43,962
- Lots of Amazon.
- [PETE] Yeah.
610
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,088
[KIM] Let's see.
611
00:32:45,171 --> 00:32:48,591
I just purchased dumbbells
for my SoulCycle classes.
612
00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:50,385
Ballet slippers,
613
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:52,303
birthday supplies,
614
00:32:52,387 --> 00:32:53,346
hair stuff,
615
00:32:53,429 --> 00:32:54,806
more dog stuff.
616
00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:57,934
Everybody's brain has this thing
that I call the PJM.
617
00:32:58,017 --> 00:33:00,478
- It's Purchase Justification Machine...
- [KIM AND JOHN LAUGH]
618
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:03,773
...and it's a little machine
running in their head and it's like...
619
00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:04,983
[MIMICS ELECTRONIC BEEPS]
620
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:08,277
...and it spits out excuses for why
you really want to buy something
621
00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,071
even if you don't actually need it.
622
00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:14,993
So the idea is to throw some dirt
and grit into the gears of this PJM
623
00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,995
- to slow it down.
- [MACHINE RATTLES]
624
00:33:17,078 --> 00:33:19,539
What that means
is asking yourself questions like,
625
00:33:19,622 --> 00:33:23,084
"Am I really gonna use this thing?
How often would I use it?"
626
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,130
Anything you could throw in front
is going to slow down your purchases,
627
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:28,631
and you'll end up spending less.
628
00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:31,259
[MACHINE HISSING]
629
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,344
The second-highest category is groceries.
630
00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,055
How many cheeses did you get this time?
631
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:37,223
- [JOHN] Four.
- [KIM CHUCKLES]
632
00:33:37,306 --> 00:33:39,767
[PETE] You're spending
$1,200 a month on groceries.
633
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:44,105
That is like banquet-level spending
for a small family.
634
00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:45,857
- You must be...
- Doesn't feel like it to us.
635
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:48,693
You must be feeding, like,
royalty every night.
636
00:33:48,776 --> 00:33:51,404
You potentially
could get that down to 500,
637
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:53,239
and that's $6,000 a year,
638
00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:57,660
$60,000 a decade,
just by tweaking your food spending.
639
00:33:57,744 --> 00:34:02,331
Literally have no idea how
you could possibly do that differently.
640
00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:07,545
I wonder if I could come
to like a guest grocery shopping.
641
00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:10,089
- [JOHN] Yeah, let's do that.
- [LAUGHS] Great.
642
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,175
- Five years from now...
- [JOHN] Okay.
643
00:34:12,258 --> 00:34:15,178
...what would you like
your lives to be like?
644
00:34:15,762 --> 00:34:18,347
The idea of retiring early sounds amazing.
645
00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:19,432
I'm totally into it,
646
00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:23,853
but also creating more space
and time to be with the family,
647
00:34:23,936 --> 00:34:27,732
to have, um, the bandwidth
to, like, actually be present.
648
00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:30,026
Yeah. That sounds really sustainable.
649
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:33,071
Like, your plan is not
very far-fetched at all.
650
00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:35,364
It feels far-fetched to me.
I'm glad you think so.
651
00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:36,491
- [LAUGHS]
- [PETE] Okay.
652
00:34:36,574 --> 00:34:38,576
Let's go play with your train set.
653
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,079
[KIM] The last few years,
654
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:45,625
we allowed ourselves
to be more consumeristic
655
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:47,627
to cope with stress...
656
00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:48,669
Only one.
657
00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:53,007
...and as a reward
for the hard work that I do.
658
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,342
All right. Three.
659
00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:58,179
So at the end of the day,
I'll, like, buy myself clothes
660
00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:00,139
or I'll buy them a toy...
661
00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:02,809
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
662
00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:07,563
...but now, like, we're ready
to start making good long-term decisions
663
00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:12,193
as opposed to just, like,
getting through that time period.
664
00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:23,621
[RO$$] So, like, right now, realistically,
665
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,500
all else fails, in two years,
666
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,503
you would technically
blow through your savings.
667
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:31,671
Right.
668
00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:34,715
{\an8}For me, we got to get
all the expenses down.
669
00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,259
{\an8}[DINGS]
670
00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:39,053
{\an8}Because you want to invest
a portion of these savings.
671
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,639
Right? And still be comfortable.
672
00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:45,017
How much did you splurge
on a couple chains, a couple earrings,
673
00:35:45,101 --> 00:35:46,269
a couple watches?
674
00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:49,689
- [HESITATES] Sixty...
- 60K.
675
00:35:49,772 --> 00:35:50,773
So let's do this.
676
00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:54,527
{\an8}Right now, if you would've put
$60,000 into the S&P 500,
677
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:58,614
{\an8}the stuff we was talking about,
that $60,000 today...
678
00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:01,784
{\an8}...would be $112,000.
679
00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:03,119
{\an8}Hmm. All right.
680
00:36:03,202 --> 00:36:04,620
{\an8}Right? Nah, this ain't broke.
681
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:08,374
I want you to see the numbers to just say,
"Okay. I've been missing out on money."
682
00:36:08,457 --> 00:36:11,210
Know what I'm saying?
That one little thing you forgot about.
683
00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:13,379
'Cause we bought a watch
and something with it.
684
00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:17,049
So for me, my biggest thing is
to just show you how the money works.
685
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,385
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
686
00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:24,765
[RO$$] When you own it, you in the game.
687
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:26,976
- Okay.
- You feel me? Like you done laced them up.
688
00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:29,812
You between them white lines,
and you really in the game.
689
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,898
- You feel me? It's game time.
- [CHUCKLES]
690
00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:34,859
[TEEZ] The only thing I know
it's second and ten, third and five,
691
00:36:34,942 --> 00:36:38,196
X receive a cut split. Like, I don't...
That's what I understand.
692
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:42,408
I just know that I got this much money
and I don't have the knowledge
693
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:43,659
on how to keep it.
694
00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:48,206
Or how to really make it
run a marathon for me.
695
00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:50,082
That's why I'm just trying to learn.
696
00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:59,383
[TIFFANY] So, first things first.
Whenever you're doing a budget,
697
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,595
a budget is just a picture
of what your money is doing.
698
00:37:02,678 --> 00:37:06,057
And if you don't like that picture,
you have the option to change it.
699
00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:08,559
So your "money out" list looks like this.
700
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,819
So let's talk about money in.
What do you take home monthly?
701
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:20,488
Um, about $5,000.
702
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:22,490
And then you said you had a second job?
703
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:23,991
- Yes. So I'm...
- Okay.
704
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,035
I picked up some virtual assistant work.
705
00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:28,120
[TIFFANY] Which is about $700 a month.
706
00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:29,538
- Sounds right.
- Okay.
707
00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:32,166
The good news is,
there's actually money here.
708
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,542
Yeah.
709
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:36,087
[TIFFANY] At your job,
do they allow you to split your paycheck?
710
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:37,046
[ARIANA] Yeah.
711
00:37:37,129 --> 00:37:39,215
[TIFFANY] See if they'll do it
up to five splits.
712
00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:40,925
Split it before you get it.
713
00:37:41,676 --> 00:37:44,595
Your five splits are
your bills account for the home,
714
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,555
your Ariana bucket for bills,
715
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,683
you have your spending account,
716
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,351
and you have two savings.
717
00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:52,853
Savings has two functions.
For emergencies and dreams.
718
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:56,190
So you're going to put some
in your emergency savings account
719
00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:57,942
and some in your dream savings.
720
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,820
So this is your budget. That's it.
A little bit of automation,
721
00:38:00,903 --> 00:38:03,614
then you don't have to
at the grocery store scramble.
722
00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:04,907
- Yeah.
- Because you know,
723
00:38:04,991 --> 00:38:08,369
"I put aside my money already.
It's there. I asked my job to do it."
724
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:11,956
It's there for you to lean into
instead of your credit card.
725
00:38:13,624 --> 00:38:17,044
[ARIANA] I've tried almost every budget
under the sun,
726
00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,297
and it's never really worked before.
727
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:21,507
So this is really the chance.
728
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,385
I'm ready to, like, do this work.
729
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:27,221
I'm ready, like, to get to the point
of financial wholeness
730
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,265
that Tiffany keeps talking about.
731
00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:39,358
[ROCK MUSIC PLAYS]
732
00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:40,443
[WOMAN] Nina, here!
733
00:38:41,235 --> 00:38:43,446
[KISSES] Hey!
734
00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:45,740
[LINDSEY] Hi there.
735
00:38:50,619 --> 00:38:53,122
[WOMAN KISSES] Nina! Stay! Come here.
736
00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:55,499
Okay? Go get it!
737
00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:59,253
[LINDSEY] The piece of advice
that Paula gave me
738
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,756
was to bring a sketchbook
739
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,508
and draw people's dogs really quickly.
740
00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:11,432
[LINDSEY] Hi! I'm sorry to bother you.
I hope you don't mind,
741
00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,353
but I went ahead and I drew your pup
because she's just so pretty.
742
00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:16,479
She's so happy.
743
00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:20,149
Also, I started
my own dog-walking/dog-sitting business.
744
00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:22,234
So I included my info on the back.
745
00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:24,111
[WOMAN] Wow, that is so beautiful!
746
00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:26,280
- [LINDSEY] Thank you so much.
- [WOMAN] Thank you!
747
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,866
[ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES]
748
00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,792
[LINDSEY] I couldn't help
but notice your dog.
749
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:42,046
He's just so happy and he's so cute,
and I kind of had to draw him.
750
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,715
So I wanted to go ahead
and give you this sketch.
751
00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,592
- Thank you!
- My pleasure.
752
00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:51,180
[LINDSEY] I was able to draw
four dogs in two hours,
753
00:39:51,263 --> 00:39:53,516
and that ended up being a big hit.
754
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,852
If there are some trips I get stuck in,
I'll definitely give you a call.
755
00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:58,646
- Thank you!
- Of course!
756
00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:02,400
But the fact is most of the people
need dogs covered for the weekends,
757
00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:04,527
and being in the service industry,
758
00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:07,029
that is usually
when I'm scheduled the most.
759
00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:12,493
[LINDSEY] Last time we saw each other,
after that,
760
00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:17,248
I made the decision
to quit one of my jobs.
761
00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:21,669
While I saw myself with potential
at that job at one point in time,
762
00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:23,379
it had turned into a dead-end job.
763
00:40:23,462 --> 00:40:25,131
This sounds like a breakup!
764
00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:27,675
- [BOTH LAUGH]
- It does sound like a breakup!
765
00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:28,592
Uh...
766
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:31,137
"I saw the potential,
but it was turning toxic."
767
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:32,138
[BOTH LAUGH]
768
00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,557
That's exactly what happened though.
769
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,352
But right now,
I'm just struggling with the transition...
770
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,646
- Okay. All right.
- ...of losing that second income.
771
00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:43,983
[DINGS]
772
00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:47,778
You don't want to be reckless
with your life and your money,
773
00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,780
but then right there in the middle,
774
00:40:49,864 --> 00:40:53,742
in between cowardice and recklessness,
that's courage.
775
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,414
And that's what I see
in your decision to quit the job
776
00:40:58,497 --> 00:41:02,835
that wasn't paying you enough,
wasn't honoring your time and talent.
777
00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:05,421
You're making me emotional
just to hear that.
778
00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:07,339
[BOTH LAUGH]
779
00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:11,969
But it is allowing me
to focus on my side gigs
780
00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:16,974
and focus on what I really want to do
for the rest of my life,
781
00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:19,310
getting out of the service industry.
782
00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:21,395
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
783
00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:36,702
[LINDSEY] So, I had my first art market
this last Saturday.
784
00:41:38,537 --> 00:41:40,456
The prints are 20 apiece, by the way.
785
00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:42,708
[WOMAN] Okay! I love the doe one.
786
00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:46,045
- That one and the jellyfish one! So cool!
- Hell yeah!
787
00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:49,673
- [WOMAN] Oh, this is gorgeous too.
- [LINDSEY] Thank you.
788
00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:55,221
I took some high-quality photos
of the paintings that I already made,
789
00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:59,767
and the beautiful thing about prints
is if I need to recreate them,
790
00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,769
- I just go to the store.
- [CHUCKLES]
791
00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:04,772
I already have the files
that I need to print out,
792
00:42:04,855 --> 00:42:07,816
so I don't need
to put in extra energy for it.
793
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,902
- You know what the word for that is?
- [LINDSEY] What?
794
00:42:09,985 --> 00:42:11,529
- Scalable.
- Scalable!
795
00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:13,447
- Scalable. It's scalable.
- Okay.
796
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:17,034
You can multiply your income
without multiplying your effort or time.
797
00:42:17,117 --> 00:42:19,703
{\an8}[WOMAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY]
798
00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:21,956
{\an8}[LINSEY LAUGHS] I know.
799
00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,124
{\an8}Do you think this is something
800
00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:27,169
I should look into
making it a weekly thing?
801
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:30,422
[PAULA] So not only should you be making
this a weekly thing,
802
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,676
you should also be looking
at all the other ways
803
00:42:33,759 --> 00:42:35,928
that you can scale your art career.
804
00:42:36,011 --> 00:42:37,012
[LINDSEY] Okay.
805
00:42:37,096 --> 00:42:39,306
[PAULA] Look at mass-producing
your prints.
806
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:42,226
Look into creating NFTs,
non-fungible tokens,
807
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:45,312
which will allow you
to sell your art digitally.
808
00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:46,480
[LINDSEY] Wonderful.
809
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,232
[PAULA] For you especially,
810
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:50,985
and for anyone whose, like,
whose side hustle
811
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:53,946
is their intended second career,
812
00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:57,449
it makes even more sense
to, like, lean hard into it.
813
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:58,450
Okay.
814
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,371
[PAULA] There's no blueprint
for building out your business
815
00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:03,747
from the ground up.
816
00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:08,419
Lindsey's making great progress,
but she also quit her waitressing job.
817
00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:11,005
So she quickly needs to figure out
818
00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:13,716
which of these new gigs is
gonna bring in the most money.
819
00:43:17,052 --> 00:43:18,971
[TEEZ] Hey, you think
it's gonna be cold up there?
820
00:43:19,054 --> 00:43:20,264
You think I need a jacket?
821
00:43:20,889 --> 00:43:22,266
- [WOMAN] Yeah.
- [GIRL MUMBLES]
822
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:24,351
- [TEEZ] For real?
- [WOMAN] We gotta help Daddy pack!
823
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:25,686
Where is Daddy going?
824
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:29,398
You got socks.
825
00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:30,482
[GIRL] Yeah, yeah!
826
00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:31,817
[TEEZ] You silly.
827
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,279
After I broke my foot,
I ended up getting on it back healthy,
828
00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:36,697
and Chicago called me.
829
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,867
Oh, you packing
your princesses for Daddy. Good job.
830
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:42,328
Now they invited me to training camp.
831
00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:46,457
Basically, training camp is a trial.
For me, it's to try to make the team.
832
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:49,251
Ninety people get invited
to training camp,
833
00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:50,919
and they going to take the best 53.
834
00:43:53,547 --> 00:43:54,757
Ro$$ was just telling me.
835
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,386
One, I got to start taking
this financial stuff serious
836
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,597
'cause I don't know
how to do anything else.
837
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,267
And two, I need to get on my grind
because right now,
838
00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:07,019
there's no money coming in.
839
00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:09,104
{\an8}[TENSE MUSIC PLAYS]
840
00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:12,024
{\an8}He brought me back down to earth. "Okay.
841
00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:16,236
If I don't do those two things,
then they can look real scary real soon."
842
00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:24,745
- [MAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY]
- [WHISTLE BLOWS]
843
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:30,709
[RO$$] My man being at training camp
is end all or be all.
844
00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:32,336
From a financial pressure.
845
00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:36,840
I'm tellin' Teez, "Bro, if you wanna
continue to live your lifestyle,
846
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:38,258
you gotta make the team."
847
00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:41,512
At the same time, I'm like,
848
00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:43,889
"Bro, assume you don't make
the squad, what're we doing?"
849
00:44:45,265 --> 00:44:48,477
So you been lookin' good in terms
of setting up the brokerage account?
850
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,480
Yeah, I set it up, but I was a little...
851
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:55,526
I ain't putting no money in there yet.
It was a little frightening.
852
00:44:55,609 --> 00:45:01,365
It was a bunch of numbers,
and I seen Nasdaq, Apple, S&P 500.
853
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:04,576
0.3%, I don't know.
I ain't do nothing yet.
854
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:06,161
I set it up, but I ain't get too far.
855
00:45:06,245 --> 00:45:07,079
[RO$$] That's a fact.
856
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:11,875
{\an8}Now most people be scared,
you know what I mean?
857
00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:14,378
But, you know,
we wanna make sure you get over that.
858
00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:18,215
- Right.
- Take your investing virginity. Let's go.
859
00:45:18,298 --> 00:45:22,970
So the best step that we're going to do
is obviously buy two index funds, right?
860
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:26,974
So you got the S&P 500,
and we're going to do the Nasdaq, right?
861
00:45:27,057 --> 00:45:29,268
So how much you say
you want to start with?
862
00:45:29,351 --> 00:45:30,728
- [RO$$] If I'm you?
- Yeah.
863
00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:33,981
I'm starting with ten racks,
then you'll hold it. I ain't gonna lie.
864
00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:37,443
I'mma just start with 1,000
just to get my feet wet.
865
00:45:37,526 --> 00:45:41,905
Get your feet wet! If it were me,
I'd be putting another zero on that boy!
866
00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:44,742
- You tryin' to get me some money!
- And you're gonna hold it.
867
00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:46,827
- So now, here's the thing. Right?
- Mm-hmm.
868
00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:50,330
- And if I'm you, in all honesty, right?
- [TEEZ] Okay.
869
00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,292
The biggest thing is
this frequency button.
870
00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:56,170
Now I'm recommending
setting it up monthly.
871
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:57,880
You won't have to think about it.
872
00:45:57,963 --> 00:46:00,424
- [TEEZ] I should put it every month.
- [RO$$] Yeah, I would.
873
00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:04,303
Just like every month, you paying
the car note or the mortgage payments,
874
00:46:04,386 --> 00:46:08,307
you pay your e-trade next,
or actually you pay your e-trade first.
875
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:10,976
So when you say, "Man,
I just want to get my feet wet"
876
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,228
and only put a stack in, 1,000,
877
00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:15,939
what's making you say
I don't want to put a lot more in?
878
00:46:16,023 --> 00:46:19,735
Uh, 'cause I don't...
It's new, you know what I'm saying?
879
00:46:19,818 --> 00:46:24,281
It's so new that I don't want to...
I guess I don't want to fail or mess up.
880
00:46:24,364 --> 00:46:25,199
Mm-hmm.
881
00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:27,785
Most people are going to be hesitant
to do something
882
00:46:27,868 --> 00:46:31,497
when they don't know much about it.
They think, "I might lose money."
883
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:36,001
But when you really realize
you losing money by not doing it,
884
00:46:36,084 --> 00:46:37,795
it's really the biggest like...
885
00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:43,091
Your bank account probably
is gonna give you, if you lucky, .06%.
886
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:44,885
- So in other words, no money.
- None.
887
00:46:44,968 --> 00:46:48,263
By holding your money purely, right,
888
00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:52,559
you're losing the value of your money
because of something called inflation.
889
00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:56,605
And what I mean by inflation
is the rising prices of goods over time.
890
00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:00,692
Remember when we was kids, bro?
We could literally go to the corner store
891
00:47:00,776 --> 00:47:02,069
with a dollar, right?
892
00:47:02,152 --> 00:47:03,737
We could get four bags of chips.
893
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:07,241
We could get some penny candy.
We could get 50-cent Zebra Cakes, right?
894
00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:08,867
Now with that same dollar,
895
00:47:08,951 --> 00:47:12,496
bro, you lucky to get one bag of chips
and a ten-cent bag to put it in.
896
00:47:14,122 --> 00:47:16,375
So the price of everything will go up.
897
00:47:16,458 --> 00:47:18,627
So it's like, okay, how can I ensure
898
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:20,754
that my money still
going to be able to purchase
899
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,548
what I want to be able to purchase?
900
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:25,050
The only way you do that is by investing.
901
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:32,641
[TENSE MUSIC PLAYS]
902
00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:36,395
[TEEZ] If I would've did
what I was supposed to do
903
00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:40,065
with the money I had
when I first got drafted,
904
00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:43,193
it might be a different story
for me right now,
905
00:47:43,277 --> 00:47:47,197
just because my financial situation
would've been more smoother than it is.
906
00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:53,412
[COMMENTATOR] As we get closer
to roster cut-down day,
907
00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:56,832
we'll keep a close eye on
all of the big moves the Bears might make.
908
00:47:56,915 --> 00:47:59,585
Every year, the 53-man roster cut-down day
909
00:47:59,668 --> 00:48:02,045
always brings some pretty big surprises.
910
00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:05,674
Overall it feels like
the 53's relatively set.
911
00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:10,846
So at this point,
it's just a matter of waiting things out.
912
00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:13,682
Hey, Mama.
913
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,226
What are you doing, Daddy?
914
00:48:16,935 --> 00:48:18,896
Daddy's chillin'. Daddy just got off work.
915
00:48:18,979 --> 00:48:20,939
[WOMAN] So, any... any word?
916
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:23,275
[INHALES DEEPLY] No, not yet.
917
00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:25,444
I should know something before Labor Day.
918
00:48:25,986 --> 00:48:26,862
[WOMAN] Okay.
919
00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:30,991
[TEEZ] Now that I'm 25,
hopefully by the time I'm 45,
920
00:48:31,074 --> 00:48:32,743
that same energy,
921
00:48:32,826 --> 00:48:36,371
that same knowledge,
that same passion I put into football,
922
00:48:36,455 --> 00:48:39,458
if I can get my stocks and my investments
923
00:48:39,541 --> 00:48:42,836
and my financial stuff straight
from 25 to 45,
924
00:48:43,629 --> 00:48:45,422
at 45, I should be set up.
925
00:48:45,505 --> 00:48:48,175
[WOMAN AND GIRL TALK INDISTINCTLY]
926
00:48:57,809 --> 00:48:59,895
- [EXHALES]
- [COMPUTER CHIMES]
927
00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:01,480
[ARIANA] Hi!
928
00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:03,231
Hi, Ariana! How are you?
929
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:04,691
Good. How are you?
930
00:49:04,775 --> 00:49:05,943
{\an8}I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
931
00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:08,987
{\an8}How's the homework going?
Like, you know, talk to me.
932
00:49:09,071 --> 00:49:11,740
The homework, I think, went well.
933
00:49:12,407 --> 00:49:15,118
{\an8}The separate accounts
has been really, really helpful so far
934
00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:16,912
{\an8}because I don't have to think
about anything.
935
00:49:17,496 --> 00:49:20,582
The minute my check is released,
it goes into these different funnels
936
00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:22,584
and, like, I only carry the card
937
00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,212
that is associated
with my spending account.
938
00:49:25,295 --> 00:49:28,090
{\an8}So, any more major or even minor changes
939
00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:31,009
{\an8}that you found yourself making
as it relates to your money?
940
00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,930
The "need it, love it,
like it, want it," um,
941
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:39,393
{\an8}has that made me... stop a purchase?
942
00:49:40,268 --> 00:49:44,022
{\an8}I don't think so,
but it's making me pause at least.
943
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:48,151
{\an8}The fact that you are
celebrating the awareness,
944
00:49:48,235 --> 00:49:50,862
{\an8}you know, I'm proud of you.
I know we have a lot of work to do,
945
00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:54,199
{\an8}and we're going to get to it,
but you're doing it! You're doing it.
946
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:56,118
{\an8}- I promise you, you are.
- Thanks.
947
00:49:56,201 --> 00:50:00,747
{\an8}[SAD MUSIC PLAYS]
948
00:50:02,207 --> 00:50:04,001
{\an8}[ARIANA] I know I'm making progress,
949
00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:07,838
and I know that I'm working my butt off
to pay off all this credit card debt.
950
00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:13,010
At its peak, I think it was like $65,000.
951
00:50:14,136 --> 00:50:16,138
I feel like I'm like halfway done.
952
00:50:16,638 --> 00:50:19,558
I'll put that right there.
Actually, it's perfect. It fits.
953
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:24,062
But I still hold so much guilt
and shame over it.
954
00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:29,401
Getting over those feelings,
955
00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:34,698
I think, is where I need to...
to focus on almost,
956
00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:38,827
because that's where
I feel the most stuck.
957
00:50:41,496 --> 00:50:44,291
[TIFFANY] Shame is one of
the worst emotions because it doesn't say,
958
00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:46,209
"You made a mistake."
959
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:47,753
It says, "You are a mistake."
960
00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:51,757
And it keeps you in bondage.
It shields you from solutions.
961
00:50:56,011 --> 00:50:59,222
If you are
constantly afraid of your money,
962
00:51:00,265 --> 00:51:04,186
{\an8}that is going to negatively affect
the way you navigate with money.
963
00:51:06,104 --> 00:51:09,357
{\an8}If you are someone
who has this awesome money mindset
964
00:51:09,441 --> 00:51:11,151
{\an8}of abundance and growth,
965
00:51:11,818 --> 00:51:15,322
{\an8}then that is going to affect the way
your money shows up in your life.
966
00:51:16,281 --> 00:51:20,202
Your money will never do better
than what your mindset will allow.
967
00:51:20,952 --> 00:51:22,954
I got you! [MIMICS WATER SPLASH]
968
00:51:24,122 --> 00:51:26,750
[ARIANA] It makes me feel like
a bad partner,
969
00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:29,211
like a bad mom,
970
00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:31,296
that my past decisions
971
00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:34,174
are affecting my family so much.
972
00:51:38,178 --> 00:51:41,973
The fact that I'm paying more
than $2,000 a month in debt is ridiculous.
973
00:51:42,057 --> 00:51:44,059
It's half of my take-home pay.
974
00:51:46,978 --> 00:51:49,397
There's so many experiences
I want to give my kids
975
00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:50,899
that I'm not able to.
976
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,904
And you work so hard, and you're trying...
977
00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:01,576
to make like a better life
for your family.
978
00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:07,999
If I didn't have these huge debt payments,
979
00:52:09,334 --> 00:52:11,670
there'd just be a lot more flexibility.
980
00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:14,840
Si! Si! Yeah!
981
00:52:15,507 --> 00:52:16,341
Oh, she's ready...
982
00:52:16,424 --> 00:52:19,928
We would be able to afford a house
with, you know, four bedrooms.
983
00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:21,555
You know, something as simple as that.
984
00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:25,183
- [KID] Bye!
- [MAN] Bye!
985
00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:28,061
[ARIANA] My husband probably
wouldn't have to work overtime every week.
986
00:52:28,145 --> 00:52:29,521
Say "Bye, Papi!"
987
00:52:31,064 --> 00:52:35,318
And I'm living on a month-to-month basis
with the fear that my car will break down.
988
00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,365
There's like, 140,000 miles on it.
989
00:52:40,448 --> 00:52:43,034
- [CAR ENGINE STARTS]
- [CAR BEEPS]
990
00:52:43,118 --> 00:52:45,412
If my car were to break down,
991
00:52:47,455 --> 00:52:50,083
I don't know how we would buy another one.
992
00:52:54,629 --> 00:52:55,505
Yeah.
993
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:02,721
[CAR ENGINE REVVING]
994
00:53:06,224 --> 00:53:07,475
[JOHN] Oh!
995
00:53:10,437 --> 00:53:14,941
So we are at the Costco parking lot
in beautiful park-like Superior, Colorado,
996
00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:17,319
and I'm kinda excited to meet John here.
997
00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,613
See if we could teach this young man
how to grocery shop.
998
00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:24,075
He wasn't familiar with Costco,
so he was comparing everything
999
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,494
to their previous levels of spending.
1000
00:53:27,162 --> 00:53:28,955
This is half the cost
of what we usually get,
1001
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:30,498
but we'll have to grind it ourselves.
1002
00:53:30,582 --> 00:53:31,833
That makes it better.
1003
00:53:32,334 --> 00:53:35,462
That is significantly cheaper
than a shredded bag.
1004
00:53:38,924 --> 00:53:41,384
[PETE] I think we did
a $400 shopping trip there,
1005
00:53:41,468 --> 00:53:45,972
but it's the equivalent of $800 to $1,000
of their previous grocery spending.
1006
00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,724
I want this one!
1007
00:53:47,807 --> 00:53:50,227
[JOHN] I don't know
if we need these dog toys.
1008
00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:51,645
[GIRL LAUGHS]
1009
00:53:51,728 --> 00:53:52,854
[JOHN] What did you find?
1010
00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:56,816
[PETE] The basic idea is bulk pricing,
1011
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,777
which means lower markups.
1012
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:01,571
So, really,
it's cutting your cost per calorie.
1013
00:54:01,655 --> 00:54:05,242
It's also allowing you to make
bigger meals for your family super cheap.
1014
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:09,079
[JOHN] Thank you!
1015
00:54:11,998 --> 00:54:14,793
So, uh, how do you think
we're doing so far
1016
00:54:14,876 --> 00:54:19,714
with us being, like, you know,
a couple months into our little program
1017
00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:21,716
of trying to optimize your life?
1018
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,553
We think that we cut about $3,000.
1019
00:54:30,016 --> 00:54:35,772
So $3,000 per month is now cut off
of your expected future budget?
1020
00:54:35,855 --> 00:54:36,815
- Yeah.
- Yes.
1021
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:39,150
Now if you really did that,
that's... that's pretty serious
1022
00:54:39,234 --> 00:54:42,862
'cause that's like
an entire family's budget...
1023
00:54:42,946 --> 00:54:44,990
- Very true.
- ...is now shaved off of your budget.
1024
00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:47,617
- Yeah.
- We dropped groceries down to $1,000.
1025
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:51,121
Basically the Amazon shopping
fell to $168.
1026
00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:54,165
- That's quite a drop.
- Yeah, it was quite a drop.
1027
00:54:54,249 --> 00:54:56,835
Dining and drinks,
we didn't go out as much.
1028
00:54:56,918 --> 00:55:00,088
Presumably, this surplus is
going somewhere into investments.
1029
00:55:00,171 --> 00:55:02,632
So yeah, index fund, stock investments.
1030
00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:03,591
Yeah.
1031
00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:08,054
So have you felt it's been like
a harmonious process as a couple,
1032
00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:11,141
or have you felt
some of the typical stress?
1033
00:55:11,224 --> 00:55:14,352
Um, has it been a uniting
or a dividing force?
1034
00:55:14,978 --> 00:55:17,272
- Ultimately uniting.
- [BOTH LAUGH]
1035
00:55:17,355 --> 00:55:19,566
But yeah, for sure, dividing a little bit.
1036
00:55:19,649 --> 00:55:22,319
There was that solid week there.
1037
00:55:22,986 --> 00:55:26,281
- Where I went into food-saver mode.
- Yeah.
1038
00:55:27,198 --> 00:55:30,368
Where you're like, "Everything in
the fridge has to be eaten,"
1039
00:55:30,452 --> 00:55:33,038
but it definitely stirred up
some conflict.
1040
00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:37,834
[PETE] Frugality is sometimes
a dirty word in the United States,
1041
00:55:37,917 --> 00:55:41,588
but the idea is that a millionaire
is made $10 at a time.
1042
00:55:41,671 --> 00:55:47,510
$10 are like bricks in your castle
of becoming a millionaire.
1043
00:55:47,594 --> 00:55:50,305
Eventually, the idea of that
is just to discourage people
1044
00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:52,015
from just making impulse purchases.
1045
00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:54,017
{\an8}Like, "Oh, I'm walking past
an ice cream stand
1046
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,644
{\an8}so I'll just buy
a couple ice cream cones for $10."
1047
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:58,897
That can happen four times a day.
1048
00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:02,734
So $40 a day becomes $10,000 over a year,
1049
00:56:02,817 --> 00:56:04,944
just vaporized
with nothing to show for it.
1050
00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:10,200
So have you gotten into
any spreadsheet projections,
1051
00:56:10,283 --> 00:56:12,869
where you could have enough
to be financially independent?
1052
00:56:12,952 --> 00:56:15,330
I made a spreadsheet
based on what you were telling me,
1053
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:19,376
where the 25 X your annual spending
1054
00:56:19,459 --> 00:56:21,252
is your FIRE number.
1055
00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:25,215
[PETE] Lots of people are using
the term FIRE,
1056
00:56:25,298 --> 00:56:28,968
which stands for
"financial independence retire early."
1057
00:56:29,052 --> 00:56:31,554
For me, I just call it early retirement.
1058
00:56:31,638 --> 00:56:36,226
The FIRE number just means
how much invested money do you need
1059
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:38,561
to fund your desired lifestyle?
1060
00:56:38,645 --> 00:56:42,315
{\an8}So your main idea is
you would like to have a retirement budget
1061
00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:46,361
{\an8}of $9,000 per month, right?
1062
00:56:46,444 --> 00:56:49,197
{\an8}- Yeah.
- Which is, times 12, $108,000 a year.
1063
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,115
{\an8}[JOHN] Mm-hmm.
1064
00:56:50,198 --> 00:56:54,536
{\an8}If you multiply that by 25,
you'd need a little over, uh, 2 million,
1065
00:56:54,619 --> 00:56:56,329
{\an8}- 2.5 million dollars...
- Yeah.
1066
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:57,956
{\an8}...of investments to cover that.
1067
00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:02,085
How long would it take you
to save up to that level
1068
00:57:02,168 --> 00:57:05,755
under your current plan
of earning and spending?
1069
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:08,508
By 2042.
1070
00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:12,762
{\an8}So Year 21, we would hit our FIRE number.
1071
00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:17,267
{\an8}[PETE] I see. So you're thinking
it would be 21 years...
1072
00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:19,727
{\an8}- Yeah.
- ...until financial independence.
1073
00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:22,480
- Which is not an early retirement.
- Yeah, but this it not...
1074
00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,732
- [LAUGHS] It is not an early retirement.
- [LAUGHS] No.
1075
00:57:24,816 --> 00:57:26,860
But if I continue to grow my business,
1076
00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:30,363
and I really hustled
for the next five years,
1077
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:34,909
like, we could... we found
that we could retire in like, five years.
1078
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:36,786
- [JOHN] Yeah.
- [KIM] It really just depends on
1079
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:39,205
how much we want to hustle
1080
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,500
versus, like, create time for our family.
1081
00:57:43,376 --> 00:57:45,336
How we want to spend our money,
all of that.
1082
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:47,881
If you make a big change,
we'll adjust the spreadsheet,
1083
00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:49,215
and then stuff'll look better.
1084
00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:50,467
- [KIM] Great.
- Yeah.
1085
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:51,968
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
1086
00:57:52,051 --> 00:57:54,512
- Oh, nice foot pedal!
- [BOY] Yeah.
1087
00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:56,014
[PETE] I think the only roadblock
1088
00:57:56,097 --> 00:57:59,809
is that they still have
quite a high baseline of spending
1089
00:57:59,893 --> 00:58:01,436
even after making some changes.
1090
00:58:02,395 --> 00:58:03,354
You got this!
1091
00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:06,191
[PETE] Like they still spend about twice
1092
00:58:06,274 --> 00:58:08,943
what I would think is a reasonable maximum
1093
00:58:09,027 --> 00:58:10,403
for a family of four.
1094
00:58:10,987 --> 00:58:14,073
I kind of wish we could get them
a little more hardcore.
1095
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:18,328
[UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS]
1096
00:58:26,085 --> 00:58:27,545
[EXHALES]
1097
00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:29,881
[INHALES]
1098
00:58:30,632 --> 00:58:35,094
So, I know that I had mentioned
to everyone previously
1099
00:58:35,929 --> 00:58:38,431
I struggle with anxiety and depression.
1100
00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:41,476
[SAD MUSIC PLAYS]
1101
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:45,980
I don't know why I get like this.
1102
00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:50,985
I don't know why I get all excited
about things at first,
1103
00:58:51,069 --> 00:58:54,781
and it seems so possible,
and I was making such good progress.
1104
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:57,158
And then something... [SOBS]
1105
00:58:57,242 --> 00:58:59,244
...just tells me I'm not good enough.
1106
00:59:02,121 --> 00:59:05,792
[INHALES] And that's one of
the main reasons that
1107
00:59:07,043 --> 00:59:09,671
I really, really want
to get health insurance
1108
00:59:09,754 --> 00:59:14,509
and get myself someone I can talk to
because I found that the only thing
1109
00:59:14,592 --> 00:59:19,639
that really helps, um,
is having consistent therapy.
1110
00:59:22,725 --> 00:59:24,811
Right now, it's really hard to tell
1111
00:59:25,687 --> 00:59:31,442
what are legitimate money worries
and what is just in my head.
1112
00:59:38,449 --> 00:59:42,495
[SPORTSCASTER 1] The Chicago Bears'
53-man roster is set!
1113
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:46,457
[SPORTSCASTER 2] Right now, Teez Tabor is
weak and slow. Not a good look for...
1114
00:59:46,541 --> 00:59:48,501
[SPORTSCASTER 3]
Teez Tabor cannot play cornerback.
1115
00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:50,169
Certainly can't play it in the system...
1116
00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:51,921
[SPORTSCASTER 4]
Teez Tabor bounced around.
1117
00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,799
Now he sticks around with the Bears
on the practice squad.
1118
00:59:56,050 --> 00:59:58,553
[SCREEN CHIMES]
1119
01:00:05,435 --> 01:00:06,519
[EXHALES]
1120
01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,272
[BREATHES DEEPLY]
1121
01:00:09,355 --> 01:00:12,150
Just got back from, uh, the facility.
1122
01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:14,485
Got some good and bad news.
1123
01:00:15,028 --> 01:00:18,072
Feelin' a little bummed
about the news. Um...
1124
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:24,454
I didn't make the 53-man roster,
but they want me back on practice squad.
1125
01:00:25,371 --> 01:00:26,873
So it's good and bad.
1126
01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:29,000
Um, not feeling too good
1127
01:00:29,083 --> 01:00:31,961
about, you know,
the position that I'm in right now,
1128
01:00:32,045 --> 01:00:35,423
but there's more opportunity
out there for me,
1129
01:00:35,506 --> 01:00:37,258
so just gotta keep grinding.
1130
01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:45,433
Okay, so this is going to be
a really quick update
1131
01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:49,395
because so much has happened
and I'm in the middle of work. Um...
1132
01:00:50,271 --> 01:00:55,193
[CLICKS TONGUE] So...
my car broke down yesterday.
1133
01:00:58,363 --> 01:00:59,572
Andrew's currently...
1134
01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:00,865
Thank God he's a mechanic.
1135
01:01:00,948 --> 01:01:02,742
He's currently working on it.
1136
01:01:02,825 --> 01:01:05,036
He has bought me a new alternator,
1137
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,580
a new radiator, a new battery.
1138
01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:12,251
All I was thinking
is that I hope that it's fixable.
1139
01:01:12,335 --> 01:01:13,336
[CAR ENGINE STARTS]
1140
01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:14,921
- [ANDREW] Done!
- Thank you!
1141
01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:17,590
'Cause I can't afford
a car payment right now
1142
01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:20,426
and I don't have enough money saved up
to buy a car outright.
1143
01:01:30,228 --> 01:01:31,396
[SIGHS] Okay.
1144
01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:36,067
More updates about things.
1145
01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:39,237
I think we, like, landed in this process
1146
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,614
at a really transitional point
in our lives
1147
01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:44,534
where we're going from struggling to save
1148
01:01:44,617 --> 01:01:47,412
to finally getting to a place
where we might actually save money.
1149
01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:50,873
You know what I would love to have
is like a conservative...
1150
01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:53,751
- [JOHN] Yeah.
- ...or best-case scenario.
1151
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:58,464
Yeah, if we do that,
then we still have to save 136.
1152
01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:01,467
You're supposed to be saving
50% of your income
1153
01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:03,469
if you want to retire early,
1154
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:05,888
but we're not coming
anywhere close to that.
1155
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,725
So that feels like
a huge challenge for us.
1156
01:02:22,572 --> 01:02:27,285
[LINDSEY] I'd be lying if I said
I no longer got down on myself sometimes.
1157
01:02:28,077 --> 01:02:32,498
Adjusting to being my own boss
and that mental shift
1158
01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:34,876
has been a lot for me.
1159
01:02:34,959 --> 01:02:39,964
However, if and when
I do get in these modes again,
1160
01:02:40,047 --> 01:02:43,926
I reassure myself, "Look,
you were able to make this happen."
1161
01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:47,054
"There's no reason
that you can't do what's ahead of you."
1162
01:02:51,267 --> 01:02:52,101
[PAULA] All right.
1163
01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:53,895
How's the hustle?
1164
01:02:53,978 --> 01:02:55,813
Where do I even start?
1165
01:02:55,897 --> 01:02:58,399
The major one that I'm super excited about
1166
01:02:58,483 --> 01:03:01,652
- was signing a deal to do a mural project.
- Uh-huh.
1167
01:03:02,945 --> 01:03:06,657
[LINDSEY] So it's 11, uh, concrete pylons,
1168
01:03:06,741 --> 01:03:10,328
and they want me to paint
an abstract background
1169
01:03:10,411 --> 01:03:13,915
and then paint characters
on all of the pylons.
1170
01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:16,417
- [PAULA] Eleven? That's a big project!
- [LINDSEY] It is!
1171
01:03:16,501 --> 01:03:21,506
And because it's a big project,
I drafted out an entire plan
1172
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:24,383
of how much materials were gonna cost.
1173
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:28,721
I did my research, and I looked into
how much mural artists make.
1174
01:03:28,805 --> 01:03:32,266
So, I was able to get my bosses
to agree to 3,500.
1175
01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:33,351
- Wow.
- [LINDSEY] Yeah.
1176
01:03:33,434 --> 01:03:34,435
It's not bad at all.
1177
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,855
I could definitely see myself
doing this professionally.
1178
01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:41,150
And when I think about it,
that's one of the reasons
1179
01:03:41,234 --> 01:03:45,571
that I moved to Austin in the first place.
I fell in love with Austin's murals.
1180
01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:48,366
So I thought, you know,
maybe one day I can figure out
1181
01:03:48,449 --> 01:03:52,703
how to make it into this business,
and it's finally happening.
1182
01:03:52,787 --> 01:03:53,996
[PAULA] That's awesome!
1183
01:03:54,872 --> 01:03:57,667
So the other big thing, um,
1184
01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:01,379
one of my regulars at work, he owns
his own independent fashion company.
1185
01:04:01,462 --> 01:04:04,298
And he hasn't been able
to keep up with the demand.
1186
01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:06,884
I was serving him beer,
then I lean in and I go,
1187
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:09,554
"You know I went
to fashion school, right?"
1188
01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:13,599
- [MAN] Hey! What's up? Good to see you.
- Hey! Good to see you.
1189
01:04:14,183 --> 01:04:16,853
[MAN] We've got some really awesome stuff
that we're working on.
1190
01:04:16,936 --> 01:04:20,439
We've been assembling
and doing, uh, the jackets and whatnot.
1191
01:04:21,315 --> 01:04:23,442
We have these right here for you
you can start on.
1192
01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:24,360
Okay.
1193
01:04:25,695 --> 01:04:27,947
I started crying a little bit
because I realized
1194
01:04:28,030 --> 01:04:32,493
I'm finally doing something
with the skills I went to school for.
1195
01:04:32,577 --> 01:04:35,913
So I really see
a future with this company.
1196
01:04:36,497 --> 01:04:39,333
- Complete that. I'll set this here.
- Appreciate it.
1197
01:04:41,043 --> 01:04:43,838
[PAULA] The mindset that you have
where you're like,
1198
01:04:43,921 --> 01:04:47,466
"I'm surrounded by opportunity."
"I'm surrounded by abundance."
1199
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:51,429
That mentality speaks a lot
to the success that you've had.
1200
01:04:51,512 --> 01:04:54,348
[LINDSEY] You've really got me
into this hustler mentality and I love it.
1201
01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:58,686
I feel like I'm always networking.
I'm always looking for opportunities now.
1202
01:04:58,769 --> 01:05:00,354
- [PAULA] Awesome.
- [LINDSEY] Yeah.
1203
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:04,692
{\an8}[DINGS]
1204
01:05:04,775 --> 01:05:07,153
{\an8}How is your side hustle income adding up?
1205
01:05:07,695 --> 01:05:11,073
So, with the mural project
that I've started,
1206
01:05:11,157 --> 01:05:13,451
- I got 35% down...
- Mm-hmm.
1207
01:05:13,534 --> 01:05:17,538
...so I add that up with the things
that I got from the market.
1208
01:05:18,456 --> 01:05:21,959
And I keep getting dog-sitting stuff,
just sporadically.
1209
01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:26,547
- [PAULA] Yeah.
- [LINDSEY] And I've saved about 2,800.
1210
01:05:26,631 --> 01:05:27,882
[PAULA] Wow, that's amazing.
1211
01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:29,383
That's amazing.
1212
01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,762
[LINDSEY] I can't remember the last time
I had this much money saved up.
1213
01:05:32,845 --> 01:05:35,932
I know it's a small amount,
but it's more the principle of,
1214
01:05:36,015 --> 01:05:37,808
"I was able to get to this point."
1215
01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:40,770
Your creative career is, like, growing.
1216
01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:44,649
You know, just from the beginning
of this journey to now, it's... Pssh!
1217
01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:49,445
There's Lindsey Incorporated,
and that's your business,
1218
01:05:49,528 --> 01:05:52,490
and then there's Lindsey the individual,
and that's you.
1219
01:05:52,573 --> 01:05:55,117
- So here is my suggestion.
- Okay.
1220
01:05:55,201 --> 01:05:57,370
Open a brand-new bank account
1221
01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,706
that's automated specifically
for all of your business income.
1222
01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:05,002
Everything that comes in through all
of your creative career projects,
1223
01:06:05,586 --> 01:06:08,047
have it go directly to that bank account.
1224
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:12,051
When it's time to file your taxes,
it'll be easier to spot deductions.
1225
01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:16,889
It puts Lindsey Incorporated
in a position to grow financially,
1226
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:20,601
and it makes you legit
from a lending and credit perspective.
1227
01:06:20,685 --> 01:06:23,562
And imagine billing
one of your new mural clients
1228
01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:24,897
from a business account.
1229
01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:28,192
It gives you instant credibility
as an entrepreneur.
1230
01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,112
That's, like, step one
1231
01:06:31,195 --> 01:06:34,824
of growing something
that is going to be bigger than just you.
1232
01:06:34,907 --> 01:06:36,117
That's so exciting.
1233
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,202
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
1234
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,292
[LINDSAY] To me, what it means
to be finally doing something with art,
1235
01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:47,169
and this may sound hokey,
1236
01:06:47,253 --> 01:06:51,007
but it feels like something
I was meant to do.
1237
01:06:51,716 --> 01:06:55,386
It can be an uphill battle,
but I feel like I've got a good start.
1238
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:59,974
I can see me
doing these things for a long time,
1239
01:07:00,057 --> 01:07:03,519
and after a while,
it is going to start adding up.
1240
01:07:05,229 --> 01:07:08,482
And that in itself is
the most gratifying thing in the world.
1241
01:07:13,154 --> 01:07:14,905
[UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS]
1242
01:07:16,532 --> 01:07:17,658
Hi. How you doin'?
1243
01:07:18,242 --> 01:07:19,452
[TEEZ] I see you got on...
1244
01:07:19,535 --> 01:07:21,495
[RO$$] How you livin'?
You know I gotta come clean.
1245
01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:23,289
- How you been?
- I'm good. How are you?
1246
01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:25,166
[RO$$] Man, I'm all good, man.
1247
01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:29,879
Catch me up in terms of kinda
where you at with the team and all that.
1248
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:32,423
What exactly does the practice squad mean?
1249
01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:33,883
Practice squad is like,
1250
01:07:33,966 --> 01:07:39,680
"Okay, well, something happened
to somebody on our active roster."
1251
01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:41,891
"We need a guy that, you know,
we've been grooming."
1252
01:07:41,974 --> 01:07:45,603
"You know, a guy that knows our system
that we feel like can go play for us."
1253
01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:47,897
- [RO$$] Mm-hmm.
- So that's what the practice squad is.
1254
01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:50,608
You do everything that active do.
1255
01:07:50,691 --> 01:07:51,859
- It's no different.
- Okay.
1256
01:07:51,942 --> 01:07:55,905
- Just on game day, you don't play.
- [RO$$] Got you.
1257
01:07:55,988 --> 01:08:00,743
From a, like, finance standpoint, like,
how much do you make on the practice team?
1258
01:08:00,826 --> 01:08:03,079
So P squad, you get 10K a week.
1259
01:08:03,162 --> 01:08:04,622
Is that money guaranteed?
1260
01:08:04,705 --> 01:08:08,626
- Or you could technically get cut?
- Yeah. They can terminate you at any time.
1261
01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:09,919
Oh, wow.
1262
01:08:12,004 --> 01:08:15,049
{\an8}- [SCREEN WHIRRING]
- [CASH REGISTER CLINGS]
1263
01:08:15,132 --> 01:08:17,551
The average person,
their earning potential is linear.
1264
01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:21,305
It goes up. You get wiser,
get a promotion, it keeps going.
1265
01:08:22,139 --> 01:08:24,433
- [EXHALES]
- [RO$$] When it come to athletes,
1266
01:08:24,517 --> 01:08:28,104
their earning potential plateaus
before the age of 30,
1267
01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:29,772
and it just starts going down.
1268
01:08:29,855 --> 01:08:31,315
[GRUNTING]
1269
01:08:31,398 --> 01:08:34,026
You need to start planning
for your last day, day one.
1270
01:08:42,034 --> 01:08:43,828
And now, you investing! Talk to me.
1271
01:08:43,911 --> 01:08:46,956
What questions you got for me?
You in the S&P and the Nasdaq, right?
1272
01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:49,208
- I bought two more too though.
- [RO$$] What you got?
1273
01:08:49,291 --> 01:08:50,292
Apple and Facebook.
1274
01:08:51,544 --> 01:08:52,878
Couldn't have went better.
1275
01:08:52,962 --> 01:08:56,132
Yeah, I seen it, one day
I had went on the E-Trade app,
1276
01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,217
and, like, it was in red a little bit.
1277
01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:01,137
What happens if the S&P goes down?
1278
01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:03,556
It's not a "what if," it will go down.
1279
01:09:03,639 --> 01:09:05,891
- [JEEZ] Oh.
- That's the thing you can be certain of.
1280
01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:07,852
Every day, it's a roller coaster.
1281
01:09:07,935 --> 01:09:09,770
It goes up sometimes. It goes down.
1282
01:09:09,854 --> 01:09:13,232
But the thing is that if it does go down,
don't panic.
1283
01:09:13,315 --> 01:09:16,694
Don't take your money out
because it's going to go back up.
1284
01:09:16,777 --> 01:09:20,948
Every month, we buying a little bit,
and you're gonna look back in five years
1285
01:09:21,448 --> 01:09:23,450
like, "Damn, I wish
I would have bought more!"
1286
01:09:23,534 --> 01:09:24,368
Mm-hmm.
1287
01:09:24,451 --> 01:09:27,454
I think you should pull, you know, upwards
of a thousand dollars every month.
1288
01:09:27,538 --> 01:09:29,248
- I'm saying more.
- That we can invest.
1289
01:09:29,331 --> 01:09:31,959
- More like five! Ten!
- [RO$$] Yeah, five racks every month.
1290
01:09:34,712 --> 01:09:35,838
[DINGS]
1291
01:09:35,921 --> 01:09:38,841
Aight, so last time,
you only wanted to start with a G.
1292
01:09:38,924 --> 01:09:39,758
Mm-hmm.
1293
01:09:39,842 --> 01:09:42,511
And now you sayin' you down
to do like five racks a month. Why?
1294
01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:45,264
'Cause I see it's... it's good.
1295
01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:47,183
[BOTH LAUGH]
1296
01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:51,395
I put 1,000 in there now,
my 1,000 is more than 1,000.
1297
01:09:51,478 --> 01:09:52,688
And I ain't do nothing.
1298
01:09:52,771 --> 01:09:54,356
As we continue to grow,
1299
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:56,567
you gonna get
more and more comfortable with it.
1300
01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,278
And the money management. Right?
It's a lifestyle. Right?
1301
01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:01,572
And I think you gonna get adapted to it
1302
01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:04,867
and start making way better,
sound financial decisions,
1303
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:06,911
as well as great investments.
1304
01:10:14,210 --> 01:10:16,795
[ARIANA] So, towing the car home,
1305
01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:19,924
plus all the car parts
is like $1200 altogether.
1306
01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:21,508
I was just like, "Okay."
1307
01:10:21,592 --> 01:10:25,429
Is the car fixed-fixed,
or is it like Band-Aid fixed?
1308
01:10:25,512 --> 01:10:26,555
[SIGHS]
1309
01:10:26,639 --> 01:10:30,976
It's fixed-fixed but feels like a Band-Aid
because the car is like a 2004.
1310
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,145
- So I'm trying to save up some money...
- Okay.
1311
01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:35,231
...until I'm able
to put a down payment on something.
1312
01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:38,442
So an emergency came,
your worst-case fear emergency came,
1313
01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:40,152
but you handled it
1314
01:10:40,236 --> 01:10:43,572
because you had the money
flowing to your emergency account.
1315
01:10:43,656 --> 01:10:47,368
And let me tell you that your voice,
it's going in my head,
1316
01:10:47,451 --> 01:10:49,328
- "This is what the emergency fund is for."
- Yes.
1317
01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:52,831
"This is an emergency, it's okay.
Just spend the money."
1318
01:10:52,915 --> 01:10:54,875
Automation is the new discipline.
1319
01:10:54,959 --> 01:10:56,377
That calls for celebration.
1320
01:10:56,961 --> 01:11:00,881
So now let's talk about credit cards.
How many credit cards do you have now?
1321
01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:06,428
- One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
- Okay.
1322
01:11:07,346 --> 01:11:11,934
One, two, three,
four, five, six, seven, eight.
1323
01:11:12,017 --> 01:11:14,228
- Okay.
- Nine if you count like, PayPal.
1324
01:11:14,311 --> 01:11:17,481
So what is going on your credit cards?
What do your swipes look like?
1325
01:11:17,564 --> 01:11:19,441
- Target is my nemesis.
- [TIFFANY] Mm-hmm.
1326
01:11:19,525 --> 01:11:21,193
[CLICKS TONGUE]
Like it is with many people.
1327
01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:24,154
I've been doing a lot
of Whole Food deliveries.
1328
01:11:24,238 --> 01:11:25,823
- Because...
- [TIFFANY] So food shopping.
1329
01:11:25,906 --> 01:11:27,074
[ARIANA] Food shopping.
1330
01:11:32,037 --> 01:11:32,871
[DINGS]
1331
01:11:34,832 --> 01:11:35,874
[TIFFANY] Here's the thing.
1332
01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:40,462
Every time you swipe your credit card,
you're literally taking out a loan.
1333
01:11:40,963 --> 01:11:45,676
So if you can't pay them off
in full every month, ask yourself,
1334
01:11:45,759 --> 01:11:51,098
"Do I want to spend an extra 16% on this?"
Because that's the average interest rate.
1335
01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:56,020
So I want you to make the shift
from spending from credit
1336
01:11:56,103 --> 01:11:57,563
to spending from checking.
1337
01:11:57,646 --> 01:11:58,480
Okay.
1338
01:11:58,564 --> 01:12:02,234
I want the next month
a no-credit-card-usage month.
1339
01:12:02,818 --> 01:12:04,528
You know,
'cause that's gonna be a reframe.
1340
01:12:04,611 --> 01:12:06,488
- Yeah.
- That's literally your word of the day,
1341
01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,032
to reframe.
1342
01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:08,991
Okay.
1343
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,618
["BARCAROLLE" PLAYING]
1344
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,529
[ARIANA] Can I get an iced
grande Americano, please?
1345
01:12:48,447 --> 01:12:51,325
[TIFFANY] What I would really love
to see Ariana do with her credit cards
1346
01:12:51,408 --> 01:12:54,703
is to consistently pay them
every month in full.
1347
01:12:58,290 --> 01:13:00,626
I would like to see
that she honestly stops spending
1348
01:13:00,709 --> 01:13:02,086
from credit cards altogether,
1349
01:13:02,878 --> 01:13:06,507
that she leans into the money
that she has set aside for spending.
1350
01:13:08,634 --> 01:13:10,469
[ARIANA] All right,
so I just got out of Target.
1351
01:13:11,678 --> 01:13:13,180
I stuck to my list.
1352
01:13:13,263 --> 01:13:15,432
Um, I only bought
a couple things for the kids,
1353
01:13:15,516 --> 01:13:17,101
and I paid with my debit card
1354
01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:19,895
even though that was
quite anxiety-producing.
1355
01:13:19,978 --> 01:13:22,773
But it's funny 'cause I know
there's enough money on my debit card
1356
01:13:22,856 --> 01:13:26,193
to cover whatever I bought.
I still didn't want to do it.
1357
01:13:27,861 --> 01:13:29,488
["BARCAROLLE" ENDS]
1358
01:13:34,743 --> 01:13:35,786
[BOY MUMBLES]
1359
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:38,288
[BOTH LAUGH]
1360
01:13:38,372 --> 01:13:39,790
[BOY MUMBLES]
1361
01:13:39,873 --> 01:13:42,960
[JOHN] He was talking about pushing
the ball forward in the right direction.
1362
01:13:43,877 --> 01:13:44,711
The other one on top.
1363
01:13:44,795 --> 01:13:47,339
It feels like we did a lot
of the really simple things,
1364
01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:51,427
like less Amazon spending,
more conscious grocery shopping.
1365
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:57,266
So we've decided to downsize
and sell our house here in Colorado.
1366
01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:00,227
[BOY TALKS INDISTINCTLY]
1367
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,773
[KIM] We can't reduce
our spending that much.
1368
01:14:04,857 --> 01:14:07,609
So the biggest expense
we have is our house.
1369
01:14:09,903 --> 01:14:14,450
Every year, our mortgage
on this house is like $36,000.
1370
01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:17,911
So if we can cut that in half,
1371
01:14:17,995 --> 01:14:20,164
we can invest that $18,000.
1372
01:14:20,747 --> 01:14:22,458
Also, when we downsize,
1373
01:14:22,541 --> 01:14:26,170
we can have
a short-term rental on that property
1374
01:14:26,253 --> 01:14:29,423
and hopefully pay for our new mortgage.
1375
01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,303
So we can definitely hit
our FIRE number way sooner
1376
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:37,097
and then have a choice about work.
1377
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:41,894
[PETE] If housing is expensive
where you live,
1378
01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:43,312
then you should be more efficient.
1379
01:14:43,395 --> 01:14:47,900
And you can really catapult yourself
to early retirement a lot earlier
1380
01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:49,985
if you're willing
to take such a bold step.
1381
01:14:53,238 --> 01:14:54,072
{\an8}[DINGS]
1382
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:01,663
{\an8}[PETE] I guess the idea is
just having the house in good condition.
1383
01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:05,000
- So it looks nicer when you're selling it.
- [JOHN] Exactly.
1384
01:15:05,584 --> 01:15:07,336
- [PETE] Okay, so the plan here...
- [JOHN] Yeah.
1385
01:15:07,419 --> 01:15:09,630
We're gonna max
this area out with shelves.
1386
01:15:09,713 --> 01:15:10,547
[JOHN] Yeah.
1387
01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,674
Starting with some 18s and then doing 15...
1388
01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:14,176
Actually 16s and 15s.
1389
01:15:14,259 --> 01:15:15,636
- All the way to the top.
- Okay.
1390
01:15:16,887 --> 01:15:20,265
[PETE] It often takes longer
to find a person like a contractor
1391
01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,059
to come help you with something.
1392
01:15:22,142 --> 01:15:24,686
Just do it yourself, build the skills.
1393
01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:26,396
It's incredibly satisfying.
1394
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,483
And it just happens to save you
a shit-ton of money.
1395
01:15:29,566 --> 01:15:30,567
- Good enough.
- [EXHALES]
1396
01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:35,781
- At this point, we're gonna get serious.
- [LAUGHS]
1397
01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,575
- I'm still cold. I'm gonna keep mine on.
- Yeah.
1398
01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:43,121
[JOHN] Pete has
a lot of resources on frugality,
1399
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:46,875
but our work with Pete has centered around
1400
01:15:46,959 --> 01:15:49,294
our mindset when it comes to money.
1401
01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:51,004
[PETE] Yeah.
1402
01:15:52,714 --> 01:15:54,299
[JOHN] Pete's coaching has been
1403
01:15:55,175 --> 01:15:59,054
more about being deliberate
and responsible in your choices.
1404
01:15:59,137 --> 01:16:00,222
[SAW WHIRRING]
1405
01:16:00,305 --> 01:16:03,725
I think the main thing
we were learning from Pete
1406
01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:10,607
was to live our life
in a joyful, responsible way.
1407
01:16:10,691 --> 01:16:16,613
Like, I think his main message to us
has never been, "Only save money."
1408
01:16:16,697 --> 01:16:20,576
It's been, "Save money,
but also don't wait to live your life
1409
01:16:20,659 --> 01:16:22,703
and spend time with your kids."
1410
01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:26,248
[SAW STOPS]
1411
01:16:33,088 --> 01:16:36,091
- [LINDSEY] Should I get tortillas prepped?
- [MAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY]
1412
01:16:36,174 --> 01:16:38,719
Here. I'll start cutting an onion,
1413
01:16:38,802 --> 01:16:41,138
and then you can sauté them up.
1414
01:16:41,638 --> 01:16:42,639
[LINDSEY] Okay.
1415
01:16:42,723 --> 01:16:45,100
- You want me to throw some butter in?
- [MAN] Yeah.
1416
01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:51,940
[LINDSEY] So I've learned
a lot about food spending in this process.
1417
01:16:52,441 --> 01:16:57,070
We are not spending the money
we did before with take-out every night.
1418
01:16:58,071 --> 01:16:59,823
What are you doing?
1419
01:17:00,949 --> 01:17:04,036
- I'm cutting avocado. [CHUCKLES]
- Okay.
1420
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:07,122
[LINDSEY] Getting away from Uber Eats
and ordering take-out,
1421
01:17:07,205 --> 01:17:12,377
I think that contributed a lot
to no longer being paycheck to paycheck.
1422
01:17:12,878 --> 01:17:15,672
That allowed me to actually save
1423
01:17:15,756 --> 01:17:18,842
the money that I was earning
through my art projects.
1424
01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:20,927
There is more breathing room.
1425
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,975
{\an8}Carey just got promoted
to head chef at his company.
1426
01:17:27,059 --> 01:17:29,102
They are offering him free healthcare.
1427
01:17:29,186 --> 01:17:34,191
And as his partner, I can get on
his healthcare for a small price.
1428
01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,152
So whenever I do get health insurance,
1429
01:17:37,235 --> 01:17:40,864
one of the primary things I want
to take care of has been mental health.
1430
01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:42,157
[CAREY LAUGHS]
1431
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,743
I think therapy is always a good idea.
1432
01:17:45,243 --> 01:17:48,080
So I'm very anxious
to be getting started with that again.
1433
01:17:51,249 --> 01:17:53,001
While I have been painting,
1434
01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:55,796
the pylon project at Hop Squad
is kind of cool.
1435
01:17:55,879 --> 01:17:57,089
People will come up to me,
1436
01:17:57,172 --> 01:18:00,801
ask to take pictures,
and they'll ask for my business card.
1437
01:18:00,884 --> 01:18:03,720
I've had people tell me
they're looking for a fence
1438
01:18:03,804 --> 01:18:07,432
in their neighborhood painted
with a mural or little things like that.
1439
01:18:09,267 --> 01:18:12,062
So I've got a few leads that way.
1440
01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:18,652
Hop Squad really, really, really want
to support my art,
1441
01:18:18,735 --> 01:18:21,279
and they gave me this amazing opportunity
1442
01:18:21,363 --> 01:18:24,991
where I'm going to be doing art classes
once a month for them now.
1443
01:18:25,075 --> 01:18:28,120
You just have paint markers here.
They're very easy to use,
1444
01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:30,414
so you don't have to worry
about brush strokes.
1445
01:18:30,497 --> 01:18:31,456
And after you're done...
1446
01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:35,544
The best part of that too,
is whenever I do my art nights,
1447
01:18:35,627 --> 01:18:39,339
they want me to set up a booth
and set up my paintings for sale.
1448
01:18:41,967 --> 01:18:45,137
My entire goal was
to get out of the service industry,
1449
01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:47,764
and I feel like
I am actually planting roots
1450
01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:50,058
for my future, and it's flourishing.
1451
01:18:53,228 --> 01:18:55,063
When I started this process,
1452
01:18:55,147 --> 01:18:58,316
I didn't think I was
in the right place in life,
1453
01:18:58,817 --> 01:19:00,652
but I realized along the way,
1454
01:19:00,736 --> 01:19:04,030
once I started doing things that I love
1455
01:19:04,656 --> 01:19:08,994
and building something,
creating something from the bottom,
1456
01:19:10,245 --> 01:19:14,249
that is success to me now.
Success is happiness.
1457
01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,840
[CROWD CHEERS]
1458
01:19:21,923 --> 01:19:24,426
[COMMENTATOR] Been a pleasure.
Good evening, everybody walking in.
1459
01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:26,136
The Bears and Buccaneers in Tampa.
1460
01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:35,145
I just got some real good news.
1461
01:19:35,645 --> 01:19:37,272
Got an exciting phone call.
1462
01:19:37,355 --> 01:19:39,858
I'm playing my first game
with the Chicago Bears
1463
01:19:39,941 --> 01:19:41,943
after six weeks on practice squad.
1464
01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:44,529
I'm going against Tom Brady and the Bucks.
1465
01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:45,697
Should be fun.
1466
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,325
[CROWD CHEERS]
1467
01:19:48,408 --> 01:19:51,578
Teez! Let's go!
I had to come to your first game, baby!
1468
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,333
[COMMENTATOR 1] {\an8}Third and ten.
1469
01:19:58,752 --> 01:20:00,086
That's broken up.
1470
01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:03,924
[COMMENTATOR 2] Teez Tabor is the one
who knocked it down.
1471
01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:06,676
[MAN] There we go, Teez! Yes, sir!
1472
01:20:07,302 --> 01:20:09,763
[TEEZ] I was just so excited
because I haven't got to play
1473
01:20:09,846 --> 01:20:12,098
in an NFL game for almost three years,
1474
01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:14,810
so it's just a long time coming.
1475
01:20:22,150 --> 01:20:24,736
Going from practice squad
to active roster,
1476
01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:26,571
there's a big difference in the pay.
1477
01:20:31,076 --> 01:20:34,746
The money coming in now is different
than when I first got in the league.
1478
01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:40,001
I already know I'm putting certain amount
in the S&P like I'm paying a bill.
1479
01:20:43,088 --> 01:20:43,922
[DINGS]
1480
01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:45,966
So I'm just getting started,
1481
01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:49,344
but I'm definitely
setting my family up for the better.
1482
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:53,765
- Daddy's hair are messy!
- [LAUGHS] It's all messy?
1483
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:56,309
- Need to comb all of it.
- Yeah, you gotta get it right.
1484
01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:58,937
[TEEZ] When I look at Chelsea and Ariah
with this new knowledge,
1485
01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:02,023
it definitely makes me feel
like a better provider.
1486
01:21:02,524 --> 01:21:05,110
Eye! You know, eye!
1487
01:21:05,193 --> 01:21:07,404
His blue eyes!
1488
01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:10,949
[TEEZ] To be able to help
especially those two people in my life...
1489
01:21:11,449 --> 01:21:12,868
Okay, let's go take a look!
1490
01:21:12,951 --> 01:21:13,910
...for life.
1491
01:21:14,411 --> 01:21:15,871
And... And that's the biggest thing.
1492
01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:19,040
[ARIANA] I think it looks amazing.
1493
01:21:19,124 --> 01:21:21,376
I think he just needs some lip gloss,
then he's all done.
1494
01:21:21,459 --> 01:21:23,461
You look so beautiful!
1495
01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:25,255
I'm very passionate about
1496
01:21:25,338 --> 01:21:27,549
giving the knowledge I got
back to the community.
1497
01:21:27,632 --> 01:21:29,593
[UPTEMPO INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS]
1498
01:21:29,676 --> 01:21:31,219
[PEOPLE LAUGHING]
1499
01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:34,389
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1500
01:21:34,472 --> 01:21:38,476
Helping them have a different outlook
on money and how to use it.
1501
01:21:41,521 --> 01:21:44,482
See, when I got to the NFL,
it was... it was showtime for me.
1502
01:21:45,442 --> 01:21:49,905
Man, I'm looking... I'm looking sweet now.
I can finally buy my own shoes.
1503
01:21:49,988 --> 01:21:52,532
I got my own crib.
You know what I'm saying?
1504
01:21:52,616 --> 01:21:54,409
I got my own jewelry. You know...
1505
01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:56,369
I mean, I was spending it before I got it.
1506
01:21:56,953 --> 01:22:00,290
Growing up, you ain't had no money,
so you didn't have to manage money.
1507
01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:02,334
They don't teach us this in the classroom.
1508
01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:05,003
They teach us how to be,
you know, consumers.
1509
01:22:05,086 --> 01:22:08,548
They teach us how to take on debt.
Ain't gonna teach us how to keep money.
1510
01:22:08,632 --> 01:22:11,718
But sometimes in our culture,
we want to get rich quick.
1511
01:22:11,801 --> 01:22:14,220
- Mm-hmm.
- I wanna get rich quick. Right? Like...
1512
01:22:14,304 --> 01:22:16,556
It ain't no shame, right?
It ain't no shame in it.
1513
01:22:17,140 --> 01:22:18,850
But I blew so much money on...
1514
01:22:19,935 --> 01:22:22,979
you know, the fake lifestyle
that we want to live, for real.
1515
01:22:23,563 --> 01:22:26,316
Forget all the Instagram.
Forget all the glitz and the glamour.
1516
01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:28,860
Like, forget all that. It's fake.
1517
01:22:28,944 --> 01:22:33,281
All that little baby chains,
it's... it's not real, for real.
1518
01:22:33,365 --> 01:22:35,825
What's real is really investing my money.
1519
01:22:37,035 --> 01:22:41,498
Everything that I've learned from Ro$$
has definitely, like, changed my life.
1520
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:43,792
It changed my mindset.
1521
01:22:43,875 --> 01:22:45,710
It changed my outlook.
1522
01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:48,588
It shifted my focus
on what it needed to be.
1523
01:22:48,672 --> 01:22:51,716
And with that, there's no price tag
that you could put on it.
1524
01:22:52,926 --> 01:22:55,929
The knowledge that I've gained
is priceless.
1525
01:23:00,892 --> 01:23:03,603
[TIFFANY] I know we've been on
a good track, but how do you feel?
1526
01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:06,314
- And where are you? Any big news?
- Um, actually, yes!
1527
01:23:06,398 --> 01:23:08,566
- Okay!
- I... I'm getting a raise at work.
1528
01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:10,485
- Okay! [LAUGHS]
- Yeah.
1529
01:23:10,568 --> 01:23:15,448
I was told a little bit ago, um,
and I'm waiting to see when that kicks in.
1530
01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:19,077
Look how your... More money is coming
into your life, right?
1531
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,704
When you look after money,
1532
01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:22,872
literally more money will come to you
1533
01:23:22,956 --> 01:23:25,041
because you're looking after
the money that you have.
1534
01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:27,460
That's what's happening.
You're getting on the other side of,
1535
01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:29,838
I like to call it
post-traumatic broke syndrome.
1536
01:23:29,921 --> 01:23:30,964
[LAUGHS]
1537
01:23:31,047 --> 01:23:33,883
- You know I've been there.
- That's exactly what I'm feeling.
1538
01:23:34,467 --> 01:23:36,720
- Can I give you another update?
- Yes, of course.
1539
01:23:36,803 --> 01:23:40,432
I paid off everything that had
an interest rate of 10% or higher.
1540
01:23:40,515 --> 01:23:41,808
[LAUGHS] Yes!
1541
01:23:41,891 --> 01:23:45,687
So the only things that are left
are things that are like 10% or lower.
1542
01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:47,647
Okay, that's awesome!
1543
01:23:51,943 --> 01:23:54,279
[ARIANA] I don't remember
when, like, my credit card balances
1544
01:23:54,362 --> 01:23:55,488
were ever this low.
1545
01:23:58,241 --> 01:24:02,037
Now, instead of feeling like a mountain,
it's like I'm walking up a hill.
1546
01:24:02,829 --> 01:24:05,290
It doesn't feel like something
that's insurmountable anymore.
1547
01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:08,001
It feels like, it's like,
I'm almost at the finish line.
1548
01:24:08,835 --> 01:24:10,795
It's like a really great feeling.
1549
01:24:13,089 --> 01:24:15,592
So credit card debt's gonna be done soon.
1550
01:24:15,675 --> 01:24:17,886
- [ARIANA] Yes.
- So I want you to think now,
1551
01:24:18,428 --> 01:24:21,681
'cause here's where I was,
I had $35,000 in credit card debt.
1552
01:24:21,765 --> 01:24:24,100
And I paid it all
by being very aggressive.
1553
01:24:24,184 --> 01:24:25,393
- Just like you.
- Yeah.
1554
01:24:25,477 --> 01:24:28,146
And then I was like,
"Student loan debt, you're next!"
1555
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:29,731
That's how I feel now!
1556
01:24:29,814 --> 01:24:32,067
- But... here's the thing.
- Okay. Yes.
1557
01:24:32,650 --> 01:24:35,195
- Credit card debt is cancerous.
- Yes, it is.
1558
01:24:35,278 --> 01:24:36,654
- We have to cut it out.
- Yes.
1559
01:24:36,738 --> 01:24:39,574
But student loan debt,
usually the interest rate is fairly low.
1560
01:24:39,657 --> 01:24:41,117
- Oftentimes under 5%.
- [ARIANA] Yeah.
1561
01:24:41,201 --> 01:24:43,495
And so you don't have to be as fast
with paying them off.
1562
01:24:47,624 --> 01:24:49,751
[TIFFANY] I want you to start to enjoy
1563
01:24:50,251 --> 01:24:52,253
the money that's happening to you.
1564
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,631
- You know what I mean?
- [ARIANA] Yes, that would be amazing.
1565
01:24:54,714 --> 01:24:58,343
[TIFFANY] The way you're navigating
with your finances now, you can do that.
1566
01:24:58,426 --> 01:24:59,427
[ARIANA] Isn't this cool?
1567
01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:03,473
It's like a sculpture.
1568
01:25:03,556 --> 01:25:05,642
[TIFFANY] In the beginning,
the money is for security.
1569
01:25:05,725 --> 01:25:08,186
After that, what is the money for?
1570
01:25:08,269 --> 01:25:11,481
Some day trips that I wanted to go,
like, see the pyramids nearby.
1571
01:25:11,564 --> 01:25:14,400
[TIFFANY] The money is
to help explore the world.
1572
01:25:14,484 --> 01:25:17,278
The money is to lean into new experiences.
1573
01:25:17,362 --> 01:25:21,032
The money is to help create
the life that you really desire,
1574
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:23,743
and that is your reward
for taking care of it.
1575
01:25:23,827 --> 01:25:24,953
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1576
01:25:25,036 --> 01:25:28,498
They have a subway, which is really cool,
and apparently Ubers are like $3.
1577
01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:30,917
Something that Tiffany
really pushed me to do
1578
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,252
is set up this dream fund.
1579
01:25:32,335 --> 01:25:34,963
So Andrew and I are planning
a trip to Mexico City.
1580
01:25:35,046 --> 01:25:37,632
This would be a lot of fun for us to do.
Just me and you.
1581
01:25:38,508 --> 01:25:40,218
So I thought his was absolutely beautiful.
1582
01:25:40,301 --> 01:25:42,345
- Casa Boho?
- [ARIANA] Casa Boho.
1583
01:25:43,596 --> 01:25:46,307
[ARIANA] This money was
specifically set aside for this trip.
1584
01:25:46,391 --> 01:25:48,518
So there's less guilt
associated with it, right?
1585
01:25:48,601 --> 01:25:50,311
Like, it's not like this money
was earmarked
1586
01:25:50,395 --> 01:25:51,646
for debt or something else.
1587
01:25:51,729 --> 01:25:53,898
I wanna do a couple nice dinners.
1588
01:25:54,482 --> 01:25:58,319
I haven't had to think about a budget
since I've started working with Tiffany.
1589
01:25:58,903 --> 01:26:01,906
My direct deposit is set up
so the correct amount of money
1590
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:03,575
goes into every single account.
1591
01:26:03,658 --> 01:26:07,036
It has lifted, like, this huge weight,
1592
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,582
knowing that everything is set up
and I don't have to touch it at all.
1593
01:26:13,126 --> 01:26:16,588
This mindset shift
around giving myself grace
1594
01:26:16,671 --> 01:26:20,592
{\an8}and being patient with myself
and, like, setting up my money in a way
1595
01:26:21,134 --> 01:26:24,888
{\an8}that gave me space
to do the things that mattered to me
1596
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:27,265
{\an8}while also paying off the debt.
1597
01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:30,393
{\an8}It's been, like, life-changing.
1598
01:26:37,984 --> 01:26:40,361
[KIM] Ready? Where are we going?
1599
01:26:41,529 --> 01:26:43,198
To the airport.
1600
01:26:43,281 --> 01:26:45,200
[KIM LAUGHS]
1601
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We're going to Costa Rica!
We're on our way.
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And we are gonna go on vacation.
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[PETE] When I tell people
to cut down their spending,
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I'm really trying
to talk them into cutting out waste.
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Going on a family vacation,
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like a trip to Costa Rica,
is totally different.
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That's something
you're gonna remember forever.
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Your kids are only young once.
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So if you can afford it, that's probably
money that's worth spending.
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[JOHN] I'm packing.
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Yay!
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[PETE ON VIDEO CALL]
How long is this trip gonna be?
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- [JOHN] Five weeks total.
- [KIM] Yeah. [LAUGHS]
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[PETE] That's a pretty reasonable,
{\an8}like, uh, early retirement test.
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{\an8}Yeah, mini retirement,
we learned that term recently.
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{\an8}I like the idea of doing that
once a year, having an extended break
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{\an8}rather than waiting till we're, you know...
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- [PETE] {\an8}Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
- Yeah.
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{\an8}So what's the status of your...
your nice house back in Colorado,
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{\an8}while you're on this vacation?
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{\an8}We were able to rent it out for two weeks.
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- What! Oh, that's awesome!
{\an8}- [BOTH] Yeah.
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[JOHN] This whole process has been about,
like, "How do we use our resources?"
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Money being one of the resources
to expand the amount of time
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and prioritize our kids.
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It's not the material stuff.
It's the time that we care about.
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[KIM] I've never taken off
this much time from work.
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What was most special
about the mini retirement
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was that we got to bond
and, like, really get to know each other.
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And we just don't have time
for that in daily life.
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- [COOING]
- [KIM] Oh, you found another slug?
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- Yeah!
- Be gentle with him, okay?
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[KIM] We don't have time to sit on a beach
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and like, talk about shells.
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It doesn't, like, happen.
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So that was really special.
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The trip was kind of
a representation of, like,
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"Okay, we can, like, hustle
and make all this money
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{\an8}and then not use it and just throw it all
on the stock market."
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{\an8}[DINGS]
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{\an8}Or we can take time now
to be available and present for each other
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and have real healthy,
happy relationships.
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I feel like the definition of money
has shifted from a way to create
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short-term comfort, short-term relief
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to long-term freedom.
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I definitely have changed
the way I think about Amazon
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and spending in general
because we have a really solid goal
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that we're working towards.
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Being able to retire
in the next five, six, seven years
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is such a bigger reward
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than anything I could purchase ever.
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[LAUGHS]
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The ultimate goal of money
is to not have to think about money.
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If your spending is low,
then all the other problems
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just kind of evaporate.
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I'm just hoping that Kim and John
are feeling more confident
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and less overwhelmed,
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and I'm sure
their spending is gonna improve.
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But even more important than that
is just that their mental understanding
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of how bright their future is gonna be,
that needs to sink in,
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and then they're gonna feel empowered
to make more changes after that.
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[MELLOW MUSIC PLAYS]
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Money is just a tool.
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You can use money
to build yourself up financially,
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but money can also be used
to destroy yourself financially.
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But ultimately, the good news
is you get to decide.
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You are in charge.
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What I'm most happy about
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is I can see
that Ari sees the finish line.
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You know, I'm not talking to a woman
who's hopeless anymore.
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It's not just teaching the person
how to budget
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or teaching the person how to invest.
This is a lifestyle.
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If Teez is to keep up this pace
of investing in the S&P 500
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on a monthly basis, being disciplined,
being consistent, right?
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Literally in 20 years,
he'll have close to four million dollars.
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[MELLOW MUSIC BUILDS]
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When you shift your focus
and you think about what you can earn
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and how to grow your income,
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part of that is shifting your focus
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to really ask yourself the question,
"What value can I bring to the world?"
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Lindsey has so much creativity and skill
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that by making that her career,
she will naturally make a lot more money,
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because the thing is,
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you make money
based on how rare and valuable
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the thing that you're bringing
to the table is.
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[MELLOW MUSIC ENDS]
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[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS]
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[UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS]