1 00:00:25,902 --> 00:00:27,904 [classical guitar music playing] 2 00:00:46,464 --> 00:00:48,300 [Steve Martin] Do we have enough Happy Eggs? 3 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:50,051 Yes! 4 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:55,599 [sighs] 5 00:00:55,599 --> 00:00:58,351 Timing is very, very important. 6 00:01:00,020 --> 00:01:02,105 Usually, I have two slices. 7 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:05,233 There you go. 8 00:01:05,650 --> 00:01:07,193 I can cook one thing. 9 00:01:07,193 --> 00:01:10,280 No, I can cook two things, two poached eggs. 10 00:01:12,282 --> 00:01:15,702 The secret... olive oil. 11 00:01:16,661 --> 00:01:17,662 [exclaims] 12 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:21,166 Now, this is the chef part. 13 00:01:22,709 --> 00:01:25,212 Ah! Oh, I put way too much in. 14 00:01:25,712 --> 00:01:28,506 [Morgan Neville] All the years you were... kind of living by yourself? 15 00:01:28,506 --> 00:01:30,634 I ate every meal out, including breakfast. 16 00:01:31,176 --> 00:01:32,761 [chuckles] 17 00:01:33,929 --> 00:01:37,015 [Morgan] So if I was to look in your fridge in those days, what would I find? 18 00:01:37,015 --> 00:01:38,767 Nothing. [laughs] 19 00:01:42,145 --> 00:01:45,106 [Steve] Marty and I, he loves poached eggs on toast too. 20 00:01:45,106 --> 00:01:47,692 Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 21 00:01:47,692 --> 00:01:50,195 So we're often staying in hotels. 22 00:01:50,195 --> 00:01:53,448 So, if I get a particularly good looking poached eggs, 23 00:01:53,448 --> 00:01:57,494 I'll e-mail Marty the photo... [laughing] and he's never done it back. 24 00:01:57,494 --> 00:01:58,954 [laughter] 25 00:02:00,121 --> 00:02:02,999 [Steve] Now... yes. 26 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:07,087 I like a lot of pepper. 27 00:02:09,171 --> 00:02:10,674 Ahh! 28 00:02:10,674 --> 00:02:13,760 Oh, Steve. Will you marry me? 29 00:02:16,054 --> 00:02:17,722 Mmm. 30 00:02:25,689 --> 00:02:28,650 Glad you're not filming this 'cause it'd be so embarrassing. 31 00:02:30,819 --> 00:02:33,822 [Morgan] So, why did you agree to make this documentary? 32 00:02:35,615 --> 00:02:38,451 [Steve] It's a hard thing to answer. Um... 33 00:02:39,661 --> 00:02:42,330 You ever think you'd be so bored? Hmm? 34 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:45,500 [Steve] I'd see it as a... antidote 35 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:48,879 to the sort of anodyne interviews, 36 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:52,132 generic things I've talked about a million times. 37 00:02:52,132 --> 00:02:54,259 And look back at what an odd life. 38 00:02:54,259 --> 00:02:56,428 [no audible dialogue] 39 00:02:56,428 --> 00:02:58,305 My whole life is backwards. 40 00:02:59,055 --> 00:03:02,726 How did I go from riddled with anxiety in my 30s 41 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,146 to 75 and really happy? 42 00:03:07,772 --> 00:03:09,482 How did this happen? 43 00:03:15,363 --> 00:03:17,824 My wife, if she looked at this video, 44 00:03:17,824 --> 00:03:20,535 she would say, "What were you doing just then?" 45 00:03:20,535 --> 00:03:22,287 And I'd say, "Putting things away." 46 00:03:22,287 --> 00:03:24,748 She goes, "Oh, is that what that was?" 47 00:03:24,748 --> 00:03:26,917 [laughing] Well... 48 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,379 So this... I'll move this. 49 00:03:32,088 --> 00:03:33,965 This tape is 45 years old. 50 00:03:34,758 --> 00:03:35,759 If I calculate. 51 00:03:37,010 --> 00:03:40,347 And... I used to tape the show to play back to hear... 52 00:03:40,347 --> 00:03:42,933 I didn't do that often, but occasionally I'd play it back. 53 00:03:43,558 --> 00:03:46,061 So, I'm a little afraid to listen to this. 54 00:03:48,021 --> 00:03:49,481 Let's just press play. 55 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,985 [Steve on tape] You know, I read something in Time magazine, really disturbed me. 56 00:03:53,985 --> 00:03:58,406 It said at any time the sun could expand 57 00:03:58,406 --> 00:04:01,451 and engulf the Earth and completely destroy it. 58 00:04:01,451 --> 00:04:04,329 I said, "That's it. I'm getting a smoke detector." 59 00:04:04,329 --> 00:04:06,414 [audience laughter] 60 00:04:07,249 --> 00:04:09,084 Bigger laugh than it deserved. 61 00:04:10,293 --> 00:04:11,419 [recording continues, indistinct] 62 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:17,216 [Steve] This stand-up thing was huge to me, it was gigantic. 63 00:04:18,175 --> 00:04:20,720 Now it almost feels like a blip. 64 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,557 [on tape] You know, we're really lucky the way the human body turned out. 65 00:04:23,557 --> 00:04:27,185 You know, like a simple thing. Instead of having two arms, 66 00:04:27,185 --> 00:04:29,354 we just had one arm right in the center of our body. 67 00:04:29,354 --> 00:04:30,522 That, I'd do like that. 68 00:04:30,522 --> 00:04:32,232 And that would totally put an end to show business, 69 00:04:32,232 --> 00:04:34,067 because how would people clap? 70 00:04:34,526 --> 00:04:35,902 [audience laughter] 71 00:04:35,902 --> 00:04:36,820 Pretty good. 72 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:38,738 Okay, I'm starting... You know, I've had enough. 73 00:04:38,738 --> 00:04:41,283 I mean, we should listen to the end, see where it went, 74 00:04:41,283 --> 00:04:43,618 but I just can't bear it, you know. 75 00:04:44,786 --> 00:04:46,580 I have a whole new life now. 76 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:48,873 [cell phone ringing] 77 00:04:49,583 --> 00:04:50,458 It's Marty. 78 00:04:50,834 --> 00:04:53,920 - [Martin Short] Hello? - Hi. They need you in ten minutes. 79 00:04:56,673 --> 00:04:58,049 - Hello? - [phone beeps] 80 00:04:59,175 --> 00:05:00,302 Hung up on me. 81 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:03,889 [Morgan] So, I know you like making cartoons. 82 00:05:04,556 --> 00:05:06,474 How would you feel about writing some cartoons 83 00:05:06,474 --> 00:05:09,686 about how you feel about making this documentary? 84 00:05:10,103 --> 00:05:11,354 Hmm. 85 00:05:23,158 --> 00:05:25,952 [yawning] 86 00:05:27,454 --> 00:05:30,373 - [Morgan] Yeah, like the-- like that. - [Steve] Okay. 87 00:05:31,166 --> 00:05:33,543 What's going on? That was a false start. 88 00:05:36,213 --> 00:05:41,426 [Eric Fischl] Being able to witness an artist reinvent himself 89 00:05:41,426 --> 00:05:44,763 {\an8}is really quite extraordinary. 90 00:05:44,763 --> 00:05:47,891 {\an8}There are very few artists that do that. 91 00:05:47,891 --> 00:05:48,892 [no audio] 92 00:05:48,892 --> 00:05:52,604 For an artist to walk away from that 93 00:05:52,604 --> 00:05:57,817 to find another way of being creative and connecting. 94 00:05:58,485 --> 00:06:03,281 They're aiming for the art of their life. 95 00:06:05,867 --> 00:06:09,079 You know, bravery is the word that comes to mind. 96 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:15,544 You have to be driven by something outside of what the thing is. 97 00:06:15,544 --> 00:06:18,004 [audience cheering] 98 00:06:23,843 --> 00:06:25,762 [Steve] There was a big premiere of The Jerk. 99 00:06:26,763 --> 00:06:29,766 {\an8}Marie! Where are you, Marie? 100 00:06:33,895 --> 00:06:35,063 Marie! 101 00:06:37,232 --> 00:06:42,112 [Steve] And four of us go out for dinner with a friend of mine and my father. 102 00:06:43,363 --> 00:06:47,033 And my father said nothing about the movie. Nothing. 103 00:06:48,243 --> 00:06:51,246 And finally, my friend says... "Glenn, 104 00:06:51,246 --> 00:06:53,373 what did you think of Steve in the movie?" 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,668 And he said, "Well, he's no Charlie Chaplin." 106 00:07:04,843 --> 00:07:06,678 {\an8}[man scatting dance rhythm] 107 00:07:08,763 --> 00:07:11,683 [man] Okay, now do it again. Leave the tape rolling. Do it again. 108 00:07:11,683 --> 00:07:13,768 Back up, Steve, so you're a little further away from the camera. 109 00:07:13,768 --> 00:07:16,688 And this time, don't turn so much in the beginning, 110 00:07:16,688 --> 00:07:18,398 but turn more in the turn, you know what I mean? 111 00:07:18,398 --> 00:07:19,649 Like you showed me. 112 00:07:19,649 --> 00:07:20,650 [man] Okay, go ahead. 113 00:07:22,485 --> 00:07:23,695 God I... sorry. 114 00:07:29,618 --> 00:07:32,203 [Steve] On my next film, Pennies From Heaven, 115 00:07:32,203 --> 00:07:34,956 I had to learn to tap dance because I didn't know anything. 116 00:07:34,956 --> 00:07:37,125 So, I tap danced for six months. 117 00:07:37,125 --> 00:07:39,502 I wanted to do it, so badly. 118 00:07:41,755 --> 00:07:42,714 [applause] 119 00:07:42,714 --> 00:07:45,634 Well, Gregory, I... I just finished my first MGM musical. 120 00:07:45,634 --> 00:07:47,636 It's called Pennies From Heaven. 121 00:07:47,636 --> 00:07:49,221 Yeah, I heard it's very good. 122 00:07:49,221 --> 00:07:50,764 I think it's the best thing I've ever done. 123 00:07:50,764 --> 00:07:53,391 - It's my first dramatic role. - Dramatic role? 124 00:07:53,391 --> 00:07:55,352 - That's right. - No wild and crazy guy, huh? 125 00:07:55,352 --> 00:07:56,895 Yeah, it's a totally different thing for me. 126 00:07:56,895 --> 00:07:59,689 - But I do sing and dance a little. - Dance? 127 00:08:02,734 --> 00:08:06,029 It was... made me cry. I just thought it was great. 128 00:08:10,033 --> 00:08:12,577 [lively big band music playing] 129 00:08:17,374 --> 00:08:21,002 And the movie has this great concept. 130 00:08:21,002 --> 00:08:23,338 Lip syncing old songs. 131 00:08:23,338 --> 00:08:30,345 [voice of C. Boswell] ♪ If I should wake And find your arms around me... ♪ 132 00:08:30,345 --> 00:08:34,349 {\an8}Steve, when the conversation's like this 133 00:08:35,183 --> 00:08:37,101 {\an8}he cuts in like that. 134 00:08:37,726 --> 00:08:41,731 That's... He comes from an angle from outer space, 135 00:08:41,731 --> 00:08:44,192 and it comes from his innocence. 136 00:08:44,192 --> 00:08:46,778 It doesn't come from anything calculated. It's just who he is. 137 00:08:48,405 --> 00:08:52,826 [Steve] I loved it and I thought, "Oh, this is a huge hit." 138 00:08:52,826 --> 00:08:54,077 - [crowd cheering] - [Steve] Yes, absolutely. 139 00:08:54,077 --> 00:08:56,746 I'm gonna say, "Yes, absolutely," to everything you ask me. So... 140 00:08:56,746 --> 00:08:58,039 [reporter] How's the reaction? 141 00:08:58,039 --> 00:08:59,666 Yes, absolutely. 142 00:08:59,666 --> 00:09:01,459 "Yes, absolutely." 143 00:09:01,459 --> 00:09:04,880 Is Steve Martin a pompous ass? "Yes, absolutely." 144 00:09:06,381 --> 00:09:08,049 [Steve] And it flopped. 145 00:09:09,217 --> 00:09:10,594 The winner for this year's Oscar 146 00:09:10,594 --> 00:09:12,971 for Best Performance in a Motion Picture, Pennies From Heaven... 147 00:09:14,055 --> 00:09:15,056 ...Mr. Steve Martin. 148 00:09:15,056 --> 00:09:16,933 [applause, cheering] 149 00:09:16,933 --> 00:09:20,103 - [woman] Did it embarrass you? - [Steve] Oh, horribly. 150 00:09:20,812 --> 00:09:24,858 I'm ashamed to say how I... [chuckles] felt. 151 00:09:24,858 --> 00:09:27,819 I felt like a-- you know, a big failure. 152 00:09:29,070 --> 00:09:32,657 - [audience laughter] - I did it all myself. 153 00:09:32,657 --> 00:09:34,326 I don't have anybody to thank. 154 00:09:34,326 --> 00:09:37,370 Not Mom and Dad or the people behind the camera. 155 00:09:37,370 --> 00:09:39,164 It was just me! 156 00:09:40,081 --> 00:09:44,669 [Steve] I was exhausted. And nothing was working. 157 00:09:45,462 --> 00:09:48,048 - Want a nice time, honey? - No, I like feeling miserable. 158 00:09:48,048 --> 00:09:51,968 [Steve] I thought I'm gonna take a break. Go to London by myself. 159 00:09:52,469 --> 00:09:56,306 And it was eerie because I could walk down the street 160 00:09:56,306 --> 00:09:58,433 and no one would look at me. 161 00:09:58,433 --> 00:10:00,227 And I was very lonely. 162 00:10:01,561 --> 00:10:04,898 And I went to see the movie Flashdance. 163 00:10:06,524 --> 00:10:10,278 And so I'm sitting there, just depressed and lonely. 164 00:10:11,071 --> 00:10:15,951 And the movie comes on, and there's some little scene where a kid, 165 00:10:15,951 --> 00:10:17,911 they're all feeling their oats and he says, 166 00:10:17,911 --> 00:10:20,413 "I want to be like Steve Martin." 167 00:10:21,706 --> 00:10:25,877 [laughing] I recognize the irony of just sitting there, like, 168 00:10:25,877 --> 00:10:28,630 "No, you don't want to be me right now, I'm telling you." 169 00:10:32,676 --> 00:10:33,885 - [Steve] Just quickly... - [Johnny Carson] Yeah. 170 00:10:33,885 --> 00:10:35,762 - With all these reviews... - Right. 171 00:10:35,762 --> 00:10:37,681 And it is such an interesting, strange movie 172 00:10:37,681 --> 00:10:40,809 and the really powerful people in the industry have given it great reviews, 173 00:10:40,809 --> 00:10:43,687 and of course, there has been negative reviews too. 174 00:10:43,687 --> 00:10:47,691 And I've found something that the people who like it 175 00:10:47,691 --> 00:10:50,443 are, like, wise and intelligent people... 176 00:10:50,443 --> 00:10:52,195 - Yeah. - And the people who don't like it... 177 00:10:52,195 --> 00:10:53,613 - Real dummies. - ...are ignorant scum. 178 00:10:53,613 --> 00:10:55,115 - Right. - And so that's what I'm... 179 00:10:55,115 --> 00:10:56,408 - That can happen. - [audience laughing] 180 00:10:56,408 --> 00:10:57,826 Yeah. You liked it, didn't you? 181 00:10:57,826 --> 00:11:00,453 - Yes. Sure. Wise, wise, wise. - Yeah. Well see... 182 00:11:06,459 --> 00:11:07,752 [Jerry Seinfeld] I kind of decided, Steve, 183 00:11:07,752 --> 00:11:12,340 I don't want to say anything negative about colleagues anymore 184 00:11:12,340 --> 00:11:14,342 - 'cause it's hard enough... - Yeah. 185 00:11:14,342 --> 00:11:15,343 Yeah. 186 00:11:15,343 --> 00:11:19,014 Do you like your, uh... glasses right side up or upside down? 187 00:11:19,014 --> 00:11:21,266 - I like the water over the outside. - Okay. 188 00:11:21,266 --> 00:11:22,767 'Cause you just got a little amount in there. 189 00:11:22,767 --> 00:11:24,436 [both laughing] 190 00:11:25,145 --> 00:11:26,688 I think we're done. 191 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:30,817 But I always had a policy. 192 00:11:30,817 --> 00:11:32,819 You don't criticize other artists. 193 00:11:32,819 --> 00:11:33,820 - Any artist? - It's... 194 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:36,072 When you look at a painting, I'm sure you're critical. 195 00:11:36,072 --> 00:11:38,658 Well, you know, personally I might like it or dislike it, 196 00:11:38,658 --> 00:11:40,243 I'm not gonna announce it. 197 00:11:40,243 --> 00:11:43,163 - Right. - Because we have critics, you know, 198 00:11:43,163 --> 00:11:44,915 - who wanna kill us. - Right. 199 00:11:44,915 --> 00:11:47,709 That's not what I do. I'm on the artistic side of it, I think. 200 00:11:47,709 --> 00:11:49,169 Or trying to be, anyway. 201 00:11:51,796 --> 00:11:54,466 I think it's weird, when I went to the ballet one time 202 00:11:54,466 --> 00:11:58,011 - and they applauded certain things. - Mm-hm. 203 00:11:58,011 --> 00:12:00,847 As if they know what the difficult things are to do. 204 00:12:01,973 --> 00:12:04,893 These 80-year-old people going... "That's hard." 205 00:12:04,893 --> 00:12:08,688 When I learned tap dancing from Danny Daniels, that-- for a movie, 206 00:12:08,688 --> 00:12:10,732 I learned it for a movie and then forgot it. 207 00:12:10,732 --> 00:12:13,318 - Mm-hm. - But he said, "Look, Steve. 208 00:12:13,318 --> 00:12:17,447 There are easy steps that look hard and there are hard steps that look easy," 209 00:12:17,447 --> 00:12:19,866 so you just don't know what anybody is applauding. 210 00:12:20,575 --> 00:12:21,618 What movie was that? 211 00:12:21,618 --> 00:12:23,453 Pennies From Heaven, I'm sure you know it. 212 00:12:23,453 --> 00:12:25,163 - I do. - Let's watch it. I'm kidding. 213 00:12:25,163 --> 00:12:26,498 Yeah. 214 00:12:28,250 --> 00:12:29,918 - [dogs panting] - Hey, buddies. 215 00:12:37,884 --> 00:12:40,470 [Steve] I came across a word in Hungarian. 216 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:44,558 "Pihentagyú." 217 00:12:44,558 --> 00:12:47,852 This is literally meaning "with a relaxed brain." 218 00:12:47,852 --> 00:12:51,940 I thought, "That's what I have now." My brain is relaxed. 219 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:55,777 I'm not under the pressure that I put myself under then. 220 00:12:55,777 --> 00:13:01,908 You know, I'm not out to prove anything, and better stuff comes. 221 00:13:03,618 --> 00:13:05,370 I wish something would happen. 222 00:13:06,121 --> 00:13:08,456 You need a line here? How about, "blah-blah"? 223 00:13:08,456 --> 00:13:10,083 Oh, we need a joke? What if I said this...? 224 00:13:10,083 --> 00:13:12,043 Oh, we need a title for our show? What about this? 225 00:13:12,043 --> 00:13:14,462 I love our new poster. I want to show you our new poster. 226 00:13:14,462 --> 00:13:16,840 Let me see if I can find it first. 227 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,216 Um... 228 00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:21,428 [chuckles] I think it's funny, anyway. 229 00:13:22,888 --> 00:13:25,015 - [door opens] - Hi, I'm being interviewed. 230 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,977 Hello. So, what were you talking about? 231 00:13:29,895 --> 00:13:30,854 Me. [chuckles] 232 00:13:30,854 --> 00:13:33,690 We were just killing time until the money got here. 233 00:13:34,691 --> 00:13:37,152 Thank you. Speaking of which, where is my per diem? 234 00:13:38,194 --> 00:13:41,114 [Steve] What's happening right now is, for the last year and a half, 235 00:13:41,114 --> 00:13:45,160 we've just been collecting jokes for shows coming up next month, 236 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,912 so we want to be prepared. 237 00:13:47,495 --> 00:13:49,706 I like the little background noise because it makes people realize 238 00:13:49,706 --> 00:13:51,541 - I don't live by myself. - [background chatter] 239 00:13:51,541 --> 00:13:53,460 Yeah, except you're destroying the documentary. 240 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:54,419 [computer chimes] 241 00:13:54,419 --> 00:13:57,047 [Steve] Basically, look at the new jokes and see if they belong 242 00:13:57,047 --> 00:14:00,550 or where they can go, or, I mean, if they're funny, I take them. 243 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:03,178 If they're not funny, I give them to Marty. 244 00:14:03,178 --> 00:14:06,765 The thing about a joke that doesn't work is the audience doesn't know. 245 00:14:06,765 --> 00:14:09,643 You're expecting a laugh, but then there's no laugh, 246 00:14:09,643 --> 00:14:11,561 but they just think, "Oh, he's just talking now." 247 00:14:11,561 --> 00:14:13,480 [both chuckling] 248 00:14:14,439 --> 00:14:16,024 "I love a comedian's opening line 249 00:14:16,024 --> 00:14:19,027 because it sets the tone for the entire stupid show." 250 00:14:19,027 --> 00:14:20,987 - [both laughing] - I think that's funny. 251 00:14:20,987 --> 00:14:22,906 "You know, we haven't performed in a year and a half, 252 00:14:22,906 --> 00:14:25,784 which will become obvious as the show goes on"? 253 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:27,786 I like, "I'm not nervous, I'm just unprepared." 254 00:14:27,786 --> 00:14:29,454 It's the same idea. 255 00:14:29,454 --> 00:14:31,873 "How many of you applauded because you thought I was dead?" 256 00:14:31,873 --> 00:14:32,874 [groans] 257 00:14:32,874 --> 00:14:34,960 "Ever have one of those moments when you walk into a room 258 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,628 and forget why you're there?" 259 00:14:37,128 --> 00:14:39,256 Well, it's funny... 260 00:14:39,256 --> 00:14:41,007 Okay, "I know what you're thinking. 261 00:14:41,007 --> 00:14:43,969 These hearing aids make my ass look amazing." 262 00:14:43,969 --> 00:14:46,888 Right away, it's the premise of you're old. 263 00:14:46,888 --> 00:14:49,933 Maybe you can follow up with a line about your prostate. 264 00:14:51,393 --> 00:14:53,645 "Every night I make sure I give a good night kiss 265 00:14:53,645 --> 00:14:56,731 to the three little ones that mean more to me than life itself. 266 00:14:56,731 --> 00:14:58,275 My two Emmys and my Tony." 267 00:14:59,442 --> 00:15:02,070 I could hear that coming out of you. 268 00:15:02,070 --> 00:15:03,446 Because it's not very good. 269 00:15:03,446 --> 00:15:05,282 [both laughing] 270 00:15:05,282 --> 00:15:06,700 "It's a protest song called, 271 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:09,703 'Let's Tax the Top One Percent Even Less.'" 272 00:15:09,703 --> 00:15:12,122 [Martin laughing] I like that. 273 00:15:12,122 --> 00:15:14,541 "I'm old school. I've been treating women with respect 274 00:15:14,541 --> 00:15:16,042 before they even deserved it." 275 00:15:16,042 --> 00:15:18,378 - You're gonna get "ugh." - Yeah, I know. 276 00:15:18,378 --> 00:15:21,089 "Isn't that crazy a celebrity as a president", but I... 277 00:15:21,089 --> 00:15:22,966 Yeah, right away it's a Trump thing. 278 00:15:22,966 --> 00:15:26,219 And also, we don't want to get that political, it's just... 279 00:15:26,219 --> 00:15:28,054 Well, we have to get a little political. 280 00:15:28,054 --> 00:15:30,056 - Trump. - That's right, you're trying to retire. 281 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,267 No, I'm just not fraught with fear. 282 00:15:33,727 --> 00:15:35,812 "When I told Steve that social distancing meant 283 00:15:35,812 --> 00:15:38,481 staying six feet away from people, he said, 284 00:15:38,481 --> 00:15:39,733 'Can you make it 60?'" 285 00:15:39,733 --> 00:15:40,984 - [Martin chuckles] - Cut. 286 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:42,777 I don't get this at all. 287 00:15:43,403 --> 00:15:45,739 "'Steve, you look fantastic. What's your secret?' 288 00:15:45,739 --> 00:15:49,492 I tell them, '20 years ago, I killed a hobo.'" 289 00:15:49,492 --> 00:15:51,286 What does that mean? 290 00:15:51,411 --> 00:15:52,871 [Martin laughing] 291 00:16:13,391 --> 00:16:18,230 [Morgan] Knowing Steve as well as you do, how do you see him as a private person? 292 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:20,565 I feel like... 293 00:16:20,565 --> 00:16:23,485 I feel like, I still wouldn't be able to say, like, 294 00:16:23,485 --> 00:16:25,487 "Well, the real Steve," you know? 295 00:16:25,487 --> 00:16:27,155 You know, I... [sighs] 296 00:16:28,531 --> 00:16:30,825 {\an8}[Morgan] Did you have any sense of who he was? 297 00:16:30,825 --> 00:16:31,785 No. 298 00:16:32,452 --> 00:16:36,581 Not really. Mm-mm. No. 299 00:16:37,165 --> 00:16:39,459 {\an8}Steve was always kind of... 300 00:16:41,127 --> 00:16:43,797 ...a solitary figure in a way. 301 00:16:43,797 --> 00:16:47,050 But he was very, very, very, very, very, very shy. 302 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:49,511 But there's another trope also where he was always closed off 303 00:16:49,511 --> 00:16:52,430 and wouldn't talk to people. Uh... 304 00:16:53,431 --> 00:16:55,475 And understandably, I-- you know, 305 00:16:55,475 --> 00:16:58,853 when you're a star of that magnitude and that talent, 306 00:16:58,853 --> 00:17:00,522 everybody wants a piece of you. 307 00:17:00,522 --> 00:17:05,610 Well, I will say this and I say it with certain, um... not caution exactly, 308 00:17:05,610 --> 00:17:08,530 a certain delicacy because I wouldn't want to invade Steve's privacy, 309 00:17:08,530 --> 00:17:12,617 but presumably by... you are in the middle of doing that. 310 00:17:12,617 --> 00:17:16,329 Steve has changed more than any other person I know. 311 00:17:16,329 --> 00:17:18,497 {\an8}- [applause, cheering] - Hey, let's take time out right now 312 00:17:18,497 --> 00:17:20,292 {\an8}and kinda get to know each other. 313 00:17:20,292 --> 00:17:23,795 {\an8}Let's take questions from the audience. 314 00:17:23,795 --> 00:17:26,464 If anybody has any question at all they'd like to ask me, 315 00:17:26,464 --> 00:17:29,050 please raise your hand, feel free, 316 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:31,595 I'll be happy to answer anything, anybody at all. 317 00:17:31,595 --> 00:17:33,388 Uh, yes, this lady right here. 318 00:17:33,388 --> 00:17:37,392 Uh... [clears throat] Steve, uh, how do you relax after the show? 319 00:17:37,392 --> 00:17:40,270 Well, what business is that of yours? 320 00:17:40,270 --> 00:17:43,273 - [laughter] - Any other questions? Just raise 'em up. 321 00:17:43,273 --> 00:17:44,733 Uh, yes, you, sir. 322 00:17:45,358 --> 00:17:48,153 Uh, Steve, do you enjoy working in television? 323 00:17:48,153 --> 00:17:50,071 This is the kind of thing that disgusts me, right here. 324 00:17:50,071 --> 00:17:53,575 When someone stands up and brings a question like that out to me in front-- 325 00:17:53,575 --> 00:17:55,660 Get this guy out of here! It makes me sick! 326 00:17:55,660 --> 00:17:57,746 Sick to my stomach! Now get him out! 327 00:17:57,746 --> 00:17:59,164 [applause] 328 00:17:59,164 --> 00:18:01,917 Any other questions at all from the audience, please? 329 00:18:02,626 --> 00:18:06,254 No more questions. Okay, let's go on with the show! 330 00:18:06,254 --> 00:18:08,298 [applause fades] 331 00:18:08,298 --> 00:18:10,091 "Who is Steve Martin's best friend?" 332 00:18:10,091 --> 00:18:12,552 "Does Steve Martin own a Picasso?" 333 00:18:12,552 --> 00:18:14,346 "How rich is Steve Martin?" 334 00:18:15,639 --> 00:18:17,599 "When did Steve Martin's hair turn white?" 335 00:18:17,599 --> 00:18:20,977 These are the top, I guess, the top inquiries about me. 336 00:18:20,977 --> 00:18:22,145 [laughs] 337 00:18:22,145 --> 00:18:24,272 "Why did Steve Martin retire from acting?" 338 00:18:25,315 --> 00:18:27,984 I didn't... I didn't know I did, actually. 339 00:18:27,984 --> 00:18:29,527 [chuckles] 340 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,655 [Morgan] How much money are you worth? 341 00:18:32,113 --> 00:18:33,740 [mouse clicking] 342 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:35,075 [Steve] Yeah, let's just look. 343 00:18:37,786 --> 00:18:40,622 Well... it's nice. 344 00:18:40,622 --> 00:18:42,916 Not accurate in any way, but... 345 00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:47,837 If you use this, you better tell 'em I was asked to Google myself. 346 00:18:47,837 --> 00:18:49,673 [laughter] 347 00:18:49,673 --> 00:18:53,218 Wait a minute. "How much is Ben Stiller worth?" 348 00:18:57,847 --> 00:18:58,848 [indistinct chatter] 349 00:18:58,848 --> 00:19:01,101 - Yes? - Hi. Do you have a table for dinner? 350 00:19:01,101 --> 00:19:02,769 Certainly, sir. How many in your party? 351 00:19:02,769 --> 00:19:05,063 - I'm alone. - Alone? 352 00:19:05,063 --> 00:19:07,190 [conversation stops] 353 00:19:11,778 --> 00:19:12,737 [Gopnik] When I first knew Steve... 354 00:19:13,446 --> 00:19:14,656 [nervous chuckle] 355 00:19:14,656 --> 00:19:18,952 ...he was very difficult to connect with at a... at an intimate level. 356 00:19:19,703 --> 00:19:22,247 And there would often be long silences. 357 00:19:22,247 --> 00:19:24,708 You felt the intensity of his aloneness. 358 00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:26,459 First-time lonely guy? 359 00:19:29,337 --> 00:19:30,589 What's a lonely guy? 360 00:19:33,383 --> 00:19:37,262 I'm not sure what made me want to be alone at that time. 361 00:19:38,722 --> 00:19:40,765 Uh... Don't know. 362 00:19:41,308 --> 00:19:42,601 You ever think of getting a dog? 363 00:19:44,019 --> 00:19:45,937 - A dog? - Dogs are great. 364 00:19:45,937 --> 00:19:47,981 They leap all over you. They lick your face. 365 00:19:47,981 --> 00:19:50,901 They don't even have to like you. It's their instinct. 366 00:19:50,901 --> 00:19:52,319 Hitler had a dog. 367 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:53,361 [camera shutter clicks] 368 00:19:54,154 --> 00:19:56,197 [McEuen] Spent a lot of time on his own. 369 00:19:57,032 --> 00:20:02,329 In the early days, he'd make enough money to go to France and buy some paintings. 370 00:20:02,329 --> 00:20:05,415 And then he'd come back and sell two of the paintings and pay for the trip. 371 00:20:05,957 --> 00:20:08,043 [Steve, in aristocratic voice] What you're looking at is a picture 372 00:20:08,043 --> 00:20:11,504 painted by Lucien Margottet last week. 373 00:20:12,631 --> 00:20:15,592 Uh, as you know, the Impressionist period 374 00:20:15,592 --> 00:20:19,888 was a very, very important period in American painting. 375 00:20:21,139 --> 00:20:25,310 I think the love of art came because art is beautiful. 376 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:26,770 Art is good to look at. 377 00:20:27,729 --> 00:20:31,816 And he can love something and he can buy it. 378 00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:33,777 It's his Rosebud. 379 00:20:35,528 --> 00:20:39,157 Frank Duveneck. These are all 19th century Americans. 380 00:20:39,991 --> 00:20:42,327 Here's a photo of a... a room I had. 381 00:20:42,327 --> 00:20:48,124 I turned the garage into a little room that I could look at paintings. 382 00:20:48,124 --> 00:20:49,918 - [Morgan] Really? - Yeah. Here's a picture. I'd line them up. 383 00:20:49,918 --> 00:20:52,379 You know, look at them. 384 00:20:52,379 --> 00:20:55,882 Kinda like a private little room, like an art room. 385 00:20:56,466 --> 00:20:58,552 I'd get lost, and I'd just stare into space. 386 00:20:59,177 --> 00:21:03,014 I used to love to do that. It was hypnotic. 387 00:21:04,474 --> 00:21:06,017 {\an8}[man] Do you remember the first piece you bought? 388 00:21:06,017 --> 00:21:07,561 Um... 389 00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:14,609 This is an area of my life that I try to keep private. 390 00:21:16,111 --> 00:21:18,405 And I think it should be kept that way. 391 00:21:19,447 --> 00:21:23,535 I mean, the first painting I ever bought was a ship at sea in the moonlight. 392 00:21:23,535 --> 00:21:27,330 {\an8}All lonely. You know, leaning. 393 00:21:27,831 --> 00:21:29,291 Let me show you this one. 394 00:21:31,126 --> 00:21:34,546 So, this is a drawing of his mother. 395 00:21:35,171 --> 00:21:38,216 {\an8}[Morgan] You have lots of paintings of, kind of, solitary figures. 396 00:21:38,216 --> 00:21:40,468 Yeah, Adam Gopnik said that once. 397 00:21:40,468 --> 00:21:43,597 "Steve, are you aware that everything you collect has in common, 398 00:21:43,597 --> 00:21:48,393 whatever period it's from, a quality of plaintive isolation?" 399 00:21:48,393 --> 00:21:52,397 People looking off... [laughing] into the distance like this. 400 00:21:53,148 --> 00:21:55,525 [Anne Stringfield] Hopper was a big touchstone for him for a long time. 401 00:21:56,401 --> 00:21:57,986 They're lonely pictures. 402 00:21:58,987 --> 00:22:01,823 {\an8}It's lots of isolated figures, lots of lighthouses. 403 00:22:04,367 --> 00:22:06,369 Do you have a melancholy inside you? 404 00:22:06,953 --> 00:22:09,497 - Quite often, yeah. - Yeah, me too. 405 00:22:09,497 --> 00:22:13,335 But that's dissipated. I had more melancholy younger. 406 00:22:13,793 --> 00:22:14,920 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 407 00:22:15,629 --> 00:22:20,091 Do you ever get sad because you're not as happy as you think you should be? 408 00:22:20,091 --> 00:22:22,135 [both laughing] 409 00:22:22,636 --> 00:22:24,554 [Steve] I must say, I look around, 410 00:22:24,554 --> 00:22:28,642 I tell my wife, Anne this, I go, "How did this happen?" 411 00:22:28,642 --> 00:22:32,187 - Right. - You know, this is fantastic, you know? 412 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:38,777 {\an8}- Are we really gonna go this slowly? - You're leading. 413 00:22:41,571 --> 00:22:44,199 [Martin] Why don't I interview you as we're driving? 414 00:22:44,199 --> 00:22:46,409 [Steve] It's called biking, but sure. 415 00:22:46,409 --> 00:22:49,412 [Martin] Hey, so, like, did you always want to be in comedy? 416 00:22:49,412 --> 00:22:52,249 [Steve] Oh, boy. Gonna turn right here, Marty. 417 00:22:52,249 --> 00:22:57,629 There's a little horse ranch up here, actually, that John Cleese used to own. 418 00:22:57,629 --> 00:23:01,258 And this one horse likes me, but only if I have food. 419 00:23:01,258 --> 00:23:02,926 [Martin whinnying] 420 00:23:04,761 --> 00:23:05,720 [Steve] Fresh cut. 421 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,055 Here you go. 422 00:23:07,055 --> 00:23:08,390 [grunts loudly] 423 00:23:10,892 --> 00:23:12,602 Get your dirt-covered apple. 424 00:23:12,602 --> 00:23:14,271 All right, no interest. 425 00:23:14,271 --> 00:23:16,314 - Yeah. It was a triumph. - Hmm. 426 00:23:16,314 --> 00:23:17,566 [horse snorting] 427 00:23:17,566 --> 00:23:20,735 Yeah. Oh, here he comes. He's gonna think about it. 428 00:23:20,735 --> 00:23:22,112 - No. - No. 429 00:23:23,947 --> 00:23:25,615 [Steve] He's seen my films. 430 00:23:26,449 --> 00:23:29,578 - [Steve, as Navin] He hates these cans! - [horse snorting] 431 00:23:29,578 --> 00:23:31,538 [Steve, as Navin] Stay away from the cans! 432 00:23:34,916 --> 00:23:38,044 [Martin] Boy. We might have to loop this section. 433 00:23:38,044 --> 00:23:41,172 [Steve laughing] Yeah, that's the most fun we're having today. 434 00:23:43,550 --> 00:23:47,220 Tell you one thing I like about being 75, 435 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:49,723 - and being on a bicycle. - Yeah? 436 00:23:49,723 --> 00:23:51,182 There's no way you can look good. 437 00:23:51,182 --> 00:23:53,810 [both laughing] 438 00:23:55,395 --> 00:23:59,316 [Martin] See what he needs is us to collide and fall. 439 00:23:59,316 --> 00:24:00,984 [Steve, laughing] Yeah. Yeah. 440 00:24:02,027 --> 00:24:03,904 [Martin] Just keep moving. Keep moving. 441 00:24:03,904 --> 00:24:05,906 - Why are you slowing down for me? - 'Cause there's a car. 442 00:24:05,906 --> 00:24:07,407 - [Martin] Oh, shit! - [bicycle crashing] 443 00:24:07,407 --> 00:24:08,325 [cartoon boing] 444 00:24:08,325 --> 00:24:11,411 [choral music] 445 00:24:14,706 --> 00:24:18,543 [Steve] When I was 15, I started working at Disneyland 446 00:24:18,543 --> 00:24:20,003 at Merlin's Magic Shop. 447 00:24:20,003 --> 00:24:23,590 This was the sign that was handmade by the owner. 448 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:27,052 You can see it in old photographs, it's hanging out in front of the shop. 449 00:24:28,011 --> 00:24:30,931 And then, years later, it was on eBay. 450 00:24:32,641 --> 00:24:36,478 And I... I bought it immediately, out of nostalgia, 451 00:24:36,478 --> 00:24:38,480 and then hung it here. I can't believe it. 452 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,441 This was the Fantasyland Magic shop, which is not there anymore. 453 00:24:42,234 --> 00:24:44,653 This is what I used to sell at Disneyland. 454 00:24:45,654 --> 00:24:47,572 You know, I had a fascination with cowboys. 455 00:24:47,989 --> 00:24:49,783 I know, right. 456 00:24:49,783 --> 00:24:51,284 Here's Victoria. 457 00:24:52,077 --> 00:24:54,162 Victoria had this incredible style. 458 00:24:54,162 --> 00:24:55,247 [camera shutter clicks] 459 00:24:55,247 --> 00:24:57,249 One of my oldest friends. 460 00:24:57,249 --> 00:24:58,959 [Dailey] Well, it's such Americana. 461 00:24:58,959 --> 00:25:01,836 That was, you know, a recreation of a certain kind of Americana. 462 00:25:01,836 --> 00:25:05,298 And then, you know, you became Americana. [laughs] 463 00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:09,302 [high-pitched] Haa-hiya-ho! 464 00:25:10,887 --> 00:25:12,138 Oh. 465 00:25:13,181 --> 00:25:14,516 Here's something. 466 00:25:15,392 --> 00:25:16,810 I don't know why I have this. 467 00:25:17,644 --> 00:25:20,188 It's my tooth on a string. 468 00:25:21,898 --> 00:25:26,069 There's a real boy somewhere inside that never left. 469 00:25:26,069 --> 00:25:29,739 I bought this off eBay years ago because I, you know, had affection for it, 470 00:25:29,739 --> 00:25:31,074 but it's kind of a mess. 471 00:25:31,074 --> 00:25:33,743 But it reminds me of, you know, how I got started. 472 00:25:33,743 --> 00:25:37,831 [Dailey] The belief in something good and pure and American. 473 00:25:39,499 --> 00:25:42,335 [Morgan] It sure seems like you've saved a lot over the years. 474 00:25:42,335 --> 00:25:46,006 {\an8}I saved all the wrong things. I saved, like, magazine covers. 475 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:51,428 You know, and you really should have been photographing your apartment. 476 00:25:51,428 --> 00:25:54,806 So it means something when you remembered it. 477 00:25:54,806 --> 00:25:58,560 And... you know, I don't really go back and look at things, 478 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,229 but here we are doing this documentary. 479 00:26:01,938 --> 00:26:05,358 This is my set list, and the reason they're in this state 480 00:26:05,358 --> 00:26:08,320 is because I would get so sweaty from performing, 481 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,697 and jumping around, jumping around, I'd come off drenched. 482 00:26:10,697 --> 00:26:14,117 [audience laughing] 483 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,203 [Steve] Here we go. 484 00:26:19,205 --> 00:26:20,540 [Lorne Michaels] Steve would be going on Letterman. 485 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:23,168 I could get a call about, "What do you think of this?" 486 00:26:23,168 --> 00:26:26,963 {\an8}And he'd do it. And I'd go, "I think it's funny. I think it'll work--" 487 00:26:26,963 --> 00:26:30,342 And I'd say, "When are you doing it?" He'd say, "In five weeks." 488 00:26:31,259 --> 00:26:34,512 And it's that thing that every time you have to win. 489 00:26:35,805 --> 00:26:37,349 This is my Flydini. 490 00:26:38,642 --> 00:26:41,728 [applause, laughter] 491 00:26:41,728 --> 00:26:44,606 I was always impressed as a kid, there was a standard magic act 492 00:26:44,606 --> 00:26:47,359 where a magician would come out with a top hat 493 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,238 and then produce a million things, and I thought, 494 00:26:51,238 --> 00:26:52,405 "What if I did it from my fly?" 495 00:26:53,281 --> 00:26:56,034 [piano playing gentle melody] 496 00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:58,119 [laughter] 497 00:27:22,269 --> 00:27:24,312 [laughter intensifies] 498 00:27:24,312 --> 00:27:25,981 [applause] 499 00:27:26,773 --> 00:27:29,776 [Steve] I had done it for charities, 500 00:27:29,776 --> 00:27:33,655 and it was Johnny's last week and he asked me, "Would you do Flydini," 501 00:27:33,655 --> 00:27:37,534 and I knew I had made it... [chuckling] ...in Johnny's mind. 502 00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:40,036 [piano playing gentle melody] 503 00:27:41,413 --> 00:27:43,665 [scattered wolf whistles] 504 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,544 [laughter, applause] 505 00:27:56,136 --> 00:28:00,223 The, uh... Three Amigos. I don't want to try it on though. 506 00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:03,268 [groaning] We'll do it this way. 507 00:28:05,687 --> 00:28:06,521 [grunts] 508 00:28:06,521 --> 00:28:08,899 This is like out of Father of the Bride. 509 00:28:08,899 --> 00:28:10,775 [Morgan laughing] 510 00:28:10,775 --> 00:28:12,193 - There. - [Morgan] Not bad. 511 00:28:12,193 --> 00:28:13,695 It's not supposed to button. 512 00:28:13,695 --> 00:28:15,989 [both laughing] 513 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:17,866 Okay. 514 00:28:19,659 --> 00:28:21,369 The humiliation is complete. 515 00:28:22,871 --> 00:28:24,414 [sound of pistol cocking] 516 00:28:24,414 --> 00:28:26,499 [mariachi-style guitar music playing] 517 00:28:27,959 --> 00:28:30,712 [Steve] Three Amigos taught me a lot of things. 518 00:28:30,712 --> 00:28:33,340 For example, I like working with partners. 519 00:28:34,049 --> 00:28:36,843 - [Martin] Why are we here? - [Steve] We're gonna look at this miracle. 520 00:28:37,677 --> 00:28:39,095 [Martin] Oh, I see. 521 00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:43,391 Now, this is the Paradise Café. 522 00:28:43,391 --> 00:28:45,018 - Used to be the Paradise Café. - Uh-huh. 523 00:28:45,518 --> 00:28:48,313 I came here every day in the '80s. 524 00:28:48,897 --> 00:28:51,024 And I found this mural very charming. 525 00:28:51,608 --> 00:28:53,735 Just looks like so much fun. 526 00:28:54,486 --> 00:28:56,279 - This inspired you! - It did inspire me. 527 00:28:56,988 --> 00:28:58,281 It's such a great image. 528 00:28:58,281 --> 00:29:00,367 It makes you feel happy. 529 00:29:00,367 --> 00:29:04,746 Anyway, and so I would come here and watch and I just thought, "Three Amigos." 530 00:29:04,746 --> 00:29:06,581 And when did my name come into the mix? 531 00:29:06,581 --> 00:29:08,166 - Never. [laughs] - Ah. 532 00:29:10,835 --> 00:29:13,338 [Martin] I remember going to Lorne's apartment. 533 00:29:13,338 --> 00:29:14,506 [Steve laughing] 534 00:29:14,506 --> 00:29:17,342 He talked to me about Three Amigos. 535 00:29:18,093 --> 00:29:20,845 And then the next day, I flew back to LA 536 00:29:20,845 --> 00:29:22,639 and went to his house and picked up a script. 537 00:29:22,639 --> 00:29:26,184 And I was just stunned at the works of art. 538 00:29:26,184 --> 00:29:29,604 There was a Hopper. There was, you know, Picasso. 539 00:29:29,604 --> 00:29:31,982 So, I said to Steve, "How did you get this rich? 540 00:29:31,982 --> 00:29:33,650 Because I've seen your work." 541 00:29:33,650 --> 00:29:35,569 - And you really laughed. - Mm-hm. 542 00:29:35,569 --> 00:29:37,237 It was an equal back and forth. 543 00:29:37,237 --> 00:29:39,155 No. Well, not really equal. 544 00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:44,035 [Martin] You know, it was my first movie. 545 00:29:44,828 --> 00:29:46,371 We were just getting to know each other. 546 00:29:46,371 --> 00:29:47,872 Ned, what are you doing? 547 00:29:47,872 --> 00:29:52,419 [Martin] But I had to play someone who was their close friend 548 00:29:52,419 --> 00:29:54,254 and an equal on every level. 549 00:29:55,255 --> 00:29:58,300 So I had to do an impersonation of myself really relaxed. 550 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:00,677 - I'm Lucky Day. - I'm Ned Nederlander. 551 00:30:00,677 --> 00:30:02,762 And I'm Dusty Bottoms, and together, we're... 552 00:30:02,762 --> 00:30:05,015 The Three Amigos! 553 00:30:05,682 --> 00:30:06,516 [all grunt] 554 00:30:07,058 --> 00:30:08,643 [Steve] So, what have you learned? 555 00:30:08,643 --> 00:30:10,312 - I have learned... - Yeah? 556 00:30:10,979 --> 00:30:13,690 That you were in-- very influenced 557 00:30:13,690 --> 00:30:16,359 - by a broken down painting. - Yeah. 558 00:30:16,818 --> 00:30:18,945 I've learned that you had a lot of time on your hands. 559 00:30:18,945 --> 00:30:20,655 - [dog barking] - [Steve laughs] 560 00:30:20,655 --> 00:30:22,073 - Hello. - Hey, buddy. 561 00:30:22,073 --> 00:30:24,242 - Why do you like me so much? - [woman laughs] 562 00:30:24,242 --> 00:30:26,870 Aw, you're cute. I worked with one once. 563 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:28,622 Oh. You guys have a good day. 564 00:30:28,622 --> 00:30:29,664 - Thank you. - Bye-bye. 565 00:30:29,664 --> 00:30:31,791 - Bye, buddy. - [woman] Come on, boy. 566 00:30:31,791 --> 00:30:34,669 [Steve] Okay, that's our exit shot, all right. 567 00:30:36,004 --> 00:30:38,006 [acoustic guitar music playing] 568 00:30:51,353 --> 00:30:53,605 [cat growling] 569 00:30:53,605 --> 00:30:56,316 If you really, really knew how to be funny, 570 00:30:56,316 --> 00:30:58,068 - you wouldn't need so many jokes. - That's what I said. 571 00:30:58,068 --> 00:30:59,903 I said, "What's a comedy genius?" 572 00:30:59,903 --> 00:31:03,323 Is that a person who goes out and never misses? 573 00:31:03,323 --> 00:31:04,950 There's no such thing. 574 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:06,576 - Right. - There's no comedy genius. 575 00:31:06,576 --> 00:31:07,535 No. 576 00:31:07,535 --> 00:31:09,162 I saw Chris Rock the other night, he said, 577 00:31:09,162 --> 00:31:11,248 "Are you still writing every day?" I go, "Yeah, every day." 578 00:31:11,706 --> 00:31:13,333 - You are still writing every day? - Every day. 579 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,002 - I write cartoons. - Really? 580 00:31:16,002 --> 00:31:18,171 Yeah. That's what I've been doing. 581 00:31:18,171 --> 00:31:19,422 Do you do the drawings? 582 00:31:19,422 --> 00:31:23,385 No, no, no. I have a fantastic guy, Harry Bliss. 583 00:31:23,385 --> 00:31:25,262 - Harry Bliss, really? - Yeah. 584 00:31:25,262 --> 00:31:26,680 - He's great. - He is great. 585 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,642 I'm doing a memoir of the movies but in all comic strip... 586 00:31:30,642 --> 00:31:31,977 - Wow. - ...form. 587 00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:34,020 And we're doing some cartoons in there. 588 00:31:37,732 --> 00:31:39,568 [Harry Bliss] I can't draw young Steve so much anymore, 589 00:31:39,568 --> 00:31:43,863 but the side view of Steve kind of comes down. 590 00:31:43,863 --> 00:31:47,367 {\an8}I have to mess with his chin sometimes because he's got a very specific-- 591 00:31:47,367 --> 00:31:50,078 His ear is not huge, doesn't have huge ears, so I have to... 592 00:31:51,329 --> 00:31:55,584 And the jaw line, too, is tricky because it kind of comes around. 593 00:31:57,711 --> 00:32:00,046 He's got a decent Adam's apple there. 594 00:32:01,131 --> 00:32:05,677 He's a good dresser, so I always give him, like a suit or something like that. 595 00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:08,346 [acoustic guitar music playing] 596 00:32:10,932 --> 00:32:13,977 I am one of the few actors to play a sadistic dentist twice. 597 00:32:13,977 --> 00:32:16,646 Do you have Bill Murray and me in the dentist chair? 598 00:32:16,646 --> 00:32:17,689 [yelling happily] 599 00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:20,191 - [drill whining] - [Murray moaning] 600 00:32:20,191 --> 00:32:21,693 [Steve] There's a lot of people say, 601 00:32:21,693 --> 00:32:24,279 "Steve Martin made me afraid to go to the dentist." 602 00:32:25,572 --> 00:32:28,491 [Steve] My stand-up career has a real story. 603 00:32:28,491 --> 00:32:29,743 Beginning, middle and end. 604 00:32:30,577 --> 00:32:33,079 But movies, it's just anecdotes. 605 00:32:33,622 --> 00:32:35,123 So, I started thinking, 606 00:32:35,123 --> 00:32:38,168 "What's wrong with anecdotes in cartoon form?" 607 00:32:38,168 --> 00:32:39,461 It's perfect. 608 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,215 The anecdote becomes worth a page, 609 00:32:43,215 --> 00:32:47,719 but it's not worth a chapter. [laughs] You know? 610 00:32:48,303 --> 00:32:51,306 And that's the way I think of my career. 611 00:32:51,306 --> 00:32:52,724 I have this thing I say about this book. 612 00:32:52,724 --> 00:32:55,268 It says, "Come for the jokes, stay for the drawing." 613 00:32:55,268 --> 00:32:58,230 [laughs] I just think it has to stick with the theme 614 00:32:58,230 --> 00:33:01,024 - that it's a memory of the movies. - You're right. 615 00:33:01,608 --> 00:33:03,401 {\an8}Okay, this is All of Me. 616 00:33:06,363 --> 00:33:09,616 Oh, jeez. I can't move my right leg. I'm paralyzed. 617 00:33:09,616 --> 00:33:11,243 [Lily Tomlin, as Edwina] Here, let me try. 618 00:33:11,243 --> 00:33:12,911 [yelling] 619 00:33:12,911 --> 00:33:16,665 And that's an important movie in my oeuvre. 620 00:33:17,165 --> 00:33:21,503 I think there are at least five anecdotes... 621 00:33:21,503 --> 00:33:24,130 - [Futter] That we have to put back. - ...that should be in the book, 622 00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:25,799 that I've done nothing with. 623 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,134 Don't take the cork off the fork. 624 00:33:29,135 --> 00:33:31,054 Why is the cork on the fork? 625 00:33:31,054 --> 00:33:34,266 To prevent him hurting himself, and others. 626 00:33:34,266 --> 00:33:35,475 [groans] 627 00:33:35,475 --> 00:33:36,518 This is all good. 628 00:33:36,518 --> 00:33:38,562 See, you look like Tommy Lee Jones here. 629 00:33:38,562 --> 00:33:41,022 I look like I'm grinning at Michael Caine. 630 00:33:41,022 --> 00:33:42,482 I think I can fix that. 631 00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:44,943 - Oh, Parenthood, I think is relevant. - Definitely. 632 00:33:44,943 --> 00:33:48,488 - Oh... fuck. I forgot that. - You forgot that one, yeah. 633 00:33:48,488 --> 00:33:51,575 [Bliss] It's hilarious, because I'll wake up, 634 00:33:51,575 --> 00:33:54,536 and I will get an e-mail from him at 4:00 a.m. 635 00:33:54,536 --> 00:33:55,996 that'll have a cartoon idea, 636 00:33:55,996 --> 00:33:59,082 and I'll think, "Oh, that works perfect." 637 00:33:59,082 --> 00:34:01,042 And by the way, I think we need some more strips. 638 00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:03,670 We need, like, two or three more. 639 00:34:06,256 --> 00:34:07,591 If I have the time. 640 00:34:07,591 --> 00:34:09,300 - I'll get you time. - It's the time, that's all I need. 641 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:11,135 - What is it? What is the time? - We'll make it work. 642 00:34:11,135 --> 00:34:14,139 Well, we're midway through September. I can knock out another strip. 643 00:34:14,139 --> 00:34:16,807 You just knock out another strip. 644 00:34:16,807 --> 00:34:17,976 [laughter] 645 00:34:17,976 --> 00:34:19,769 [Steve] Okay, I'm looking at Roxanne. 646 00:34:19,769 --> 00:34:21,521 I think there's more on Roxanne, isn't there? 647 00:34:21,521 --> 00:34:23,064 - [Bliss] There is. - The writing of it? 648 00:34:23,064 --> 00:34:24,441 - [Futter] Yeah. - [Bliss] Yes, yes, yes. 649 00:34:28,862 --> 00:34:31,197 [Steve] You know, I'd co-written The Jerk. 650 00:34:31,197 --> 00:34:35,242 Co-written Man With Two Brains and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid. 651 00:34:36,494 --> 00:34:40,164 But co-writing is different, it's pitching. 652 00:34:41,124 --> 00:34:43,793 {\an8}And so, when I got to Roxanne, I thought... 653 00:34:43,793 --> 00:34:45,378 {\an8}"Gee, I wonder if I could do that?" 654 00:34:49,007 --> 00:34:51,927 But what's the point of me doing another Cyrano de Bergerac? 655 00:34:51,927 --> 00:34:54,012 It's already really good. 656 00:34:54,471 --> 00:34:58,475 [British accent] "Ah, hello, darling. Haven't seen you in a while." 657 00:35:01,937 --> 00:35:05,732 I realized what I was responding to was the longing. 658 00:35:08,485 --> 00:35:11,780 I was just wondering if what I wrote to you touched you? 659 00:35:12,447 --> 00:35:13,615 It did. 660 00:35:16,409 --> 00:35:18,954 I am in orbit around you. 661 00:35:19,704 --> 00:35:22,165 I'm suspended weightless over you. 662 00:35:22,165 --> 00:35:25,293 Like, like the blue man in the Chagall. 663 00:35:26,086 --> 00:35:31,341 Just hovering, hanging over you in a delirious kiss. 664 00:35:33,802 --> 00:35:37,138 [Morgan] Longing is actually a theme I see in a lot of your writing. 665 00:35:38,515 --> 00:35:40,934 [Steve] Um, I don't know how to describe it. 666 00:35:40,934 --> 00:35:43,979 It's kind of always been a part of my life. 667 00:35:45,438 --> 00:35:49,609 Even with The Jerk, or Pennies From Heaven. 668 00:35:50,902 --> 00:35:54,030 But I wanna live in a world where the songs come true. 669 00:35:55,198 --> 00:35:58,326 There must be some place where them songs are for real. 670 00:35:59,411 --> 00:36:01,454 I mean, even Bowfinger has longing. 671 00:36:02,372 --> 00:36:05,625 It's a guy trying to make it in the world. 672 00:36:06,334 --> 00:36:10,547 His ultimate satisfaction at the end is he gets a FedEx package. 673 00:36:14,301 --> 00:36:16,428 [Fey] There's a melancholy. 674 00:36:16,428 --> 00:36:18,430 It's a bittersweet chocolate bar. 675 00:36:18,430 --> 00:36:20,140 It's, um... [laughs] 676 00:36:20,140 --> 00:36:22,767 It's Hershey's Special Dark, it's not milk. 677 00:36:24,561 --> 00:36:28,398 There is a longing at the center of... 678 00:36:29,441 --> 00:36:32,193 ...pretty much everybody he shows us. 679 00:36:37,949 --> 00:36:40,285 And the only person who can fix it 680 00:36:40,285 --> 00:36:42,954 is Martin Short. [laughs] 681 00:36:45,999 --> 00:36:50,921 [Steve] I'm gonna take you on a little, beautiful, mini-tour of Santa Barbara. 682 00:36:52,339 --> 00:36:55,217 - This is the old Magic Cabaret. - Wow. 683 00:36:55,217 --> 00:36:57,010 - You know what the Magic Castle is? - Yeah. 684 00:36:57,010 --> 00:37:00,347 Well, this was a version of it by the original creators. 685 00:37:00,347 --> 00:37:04,476 And I used to love to go there, and then COVID closed it. 686 00:37:04,935 --> 00:37:07,812 - [Martin] Hmm. It's a good story. - Yeah. [laughs] 687 00:37:07,812 --> 00:37:10,440 - It needs a middle and an end. - Yeah. 688 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,525 And then I would have a really good story. 689 00:37:12,525 --> 00:37:14,069 [both laughing] 690 00:37:14,945 --> 00:37:18,615 [Martin] You've really mapped out a day. We're gonna pick up your laundry. 691 00:37:18,615 --> 00:37:20,200 - [Steve] No, drop it off. - Drop it off. 692 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,493 [Steve] Which is just... 693 00:37:21,493 --> 00:37:22,535 [Martin] Red light, red light. 694 00:37:22,535 --> 00:37:24,955 [Steve] I can turn right on a red light. It's California. 695 00:37:24,955 --> 00:37:27,832 [Martin] Don't you have a score of servants to take your laundry over? 696 00:37:27,832 --> 00:37:30,168 - No. - So you're really of the people? 697 00:37:30,168 --> 00:37:31,753 - Yes. - Wow. 698 00:37:32,462 --> 00:37:33,922 [Steve] Actually, I'm just doing this for camera. 699 00:37:33,922 --> 00:37:36,800 - It's the first time in 27 years. - [Martin laughing] 700 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,177 - [woman] Here you go. Thank you. - Thank you. Bye-bye. 701 00:37:39,177 --> 00:37:40,428 [door chiming] 702 00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:45,058 You consider yourself a good driver? 703 00:37:45,058 --> 00:37:47,060 - Yes. - A safe one? 704 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:48,478 [Steve] You know, as you get older, 705 00:37:48,478 --> 00:37:52,357 you either become your worst self or your best self. 706 00:37:52,357 --> 00:37:54,943 - That is absolutely true. - Is that a parking space? 707 00:37:54,943 --> 00:37:57,445 And I've become a better driver. 708 00:37:57,445 --> 00:38:01,366 I've become nicer. Kinder. 709 00:38:01,366 --> 00:38:02,617 More open. 710 00:38:03,076 --> 00:38:04,828 [Martin] Yeah, because for about 50 years there, 711 00:38:04,828 --> 00:38:07,914 - you were a real prick. - I know, yeah. [laughing] 712 00:38:13,503 --> 00:38:15,005 [water splashing] 713 00:38:16,882 --> 00:38:19,634 [Steve] I got Roger about, almost five years ago, 714 00:38:19,634 --> 00:38:23,722 and I was dating a woman who had a Lab. 715 00:38:23,722 --> 00:38:25,557 You wanna get it? Sit. 716 00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:29,895 And then the girl and I broke up, and I ended up with Roger. 717 00:38:30,645 --> 00:38:32,606 Go get the toy. Go on. Yes! 718 00:38:33,481 --> 00:38:36,526 Go get it! Go! Good. 719 00:38:36,526 --> 00:38:39,863 Well, I wouldn't compare it to a human relationship, 720 00:38:39,863 --> 00:38:43,742 but it's certainly a beautiful one-way relationship. 721 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:51,207 Back then, I wasn't mean with people, I was removed. 722 00:38:51,917 --> 00:38:54,711 I was always somewhere else in my head. 723 00:38:55,921 --> 00:38:58,215 [Steve] "A personal letter from Steve Martin. 724 00:38:58,215 --> 00:38:59,883 - Dear..." - [male voice] "Jerry." 725 00:38:59,883 --> 00:39:02,010 "What a pleasure it was to receive a letter from you. 726 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:03,803 Although my schedule is very busy, 727 00:39:03,803 --> 00:39:06,389 I decided to take time out to write you a personal reply. 728 00:39:06,973 --> 00:39:09,309 Too often, performers lose contact with their audience 729 00:39:09,309 --> 00:39:10,894 and begin to take them for granted, 730 00:39:10,894 --> 00:39:13,730 but I don't think that will ever happen to me, will it..." 731 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:14,856 "Jerry"? 732 00:39:14,856 --> 00:39:16,983 "I don't know when I'll be appearing close to you, 733 00:39:16,983 --> 00:39:19,611 but keep that extra bunk made up in case I get to..." 734 00:39:19,611 --> 00:39:20,654 "Flint." 735 00:39:20,654 --> 00:39:23,156 "Sincerely, Steve Martin. 736 00:39:23,156 --> 00:39:27,410 P.S. I'll always cherish that afternoon we spent together in Rio, 737 00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:29,663 walking along the beach, looking at..." 738 00:39:29,663 --> 00:39:30,747 "rocks." 739 00:39:31,373 --> 00:39:33,458 [laughs] 740 00:39:34,125 --> 00:39:36,044 Okay, if you type in, 741 00:39:36,586 --> 00:39:41,341 "Steve hasn't missed a step, because at his age he only uses ramps." 742 00:39:43,426 --> 00:39:46,304 We're on page 37 out of 117. 743 00:39:46,304 --> 00:39:47,889 Look, we can do it any way you want. 744 00:39:47,889 --> 00:39:51,685 Obviously, to me, it seems like you go through the raw stuff. 745 00:39:51,685 --> 00:39:53,853 You put it in the script, and then we go through the-- 746 00:39:53,853 --> 00:39:56,398 Yeah, but there's so much. Are we gonna go through another 100 pages? 747 00:39:58,692 --> 00:40:04,281 "Only thing that keeps Marty out of the Oscar In Memoriam... 748 00:40:04,906 --> 00:40:07,033 ...is no good films." 749 00:40:08,577 --> 00:40:12,038 "There was not one person who was surprised at Marty's success. 750 00:40:12,038 --> 00:40:14,124 - There were millions." - No. 751 00:40:14,124 --> 00:40:18,545 "Thanks to good diet and exercise, Marty outlived his career by 30 years." 752 00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:20,380 That's not bad. Let me put that in blue. 753 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:21,798 [Steve] "Steve and I are a great team. 754 00:40:21,798 --> 00:40:24,718 We go together like Ben Affleck and looking sad." 755 00:40:24,718 --> 00:40:26,261 [laughing] I know, I like that one. 756 00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:30,557 "Steve's just a few years away from being fed like a baby bird." 757 00:40:30,557 --> 00:40:31,975 [Martin laughing] 758 00:40:32,851 --> 00:40:35,020 That's funny. Put that in red, anyway. 759 00:40:35,896 --> 00:40:38,940 "Steve writes, plays the banjo and writes cartoon strips. 760 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:40,775 He's already the biggest entertainer-- 761 00:40:40,775 --> 00:40:44,195 That makes him the biggest entertainer of 1945." 762 00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:45,322 Um... 763 00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:47,407 I never thought that was that strong. 764 00:40:47,407 --> 00:40:48,950 - Really? - Does it get a laugh? 765 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:49,993 Yeah. 766 00:40:50,785 --> 00:40:53,496 - Well, then it's strong. - [Steve laughs] 767 00:40:53,496 --> 00:40:55,498 These are terrible. I mean, but great. 768 00:40:55,498 --> 00:41:00,003 "He has the sex appeal of a hot dog burp trapped in a face mask." 769 00:41:00,003 --> 00:41:02,839 [both laughing deeply] 770 00:41:04,549 --> 00:41:06,259 "A hot dog burp." 771 00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:11,473 [Steve] Tell you what I did last night. 772 00:41:11,473 --> 00:41:13,516 I drove down Sunset Boulevard. 773 00:41:13,516 --> 00:41:15,268 - [Dailey] Mm-hm. - To get to Silver Lake. 774 00:41:16,269 --> 00:41:21,816 And I realized I was traveling through my entire life. 775 00:41:23,818 --> 00:41:26,613 Hollywood Boulevard, where I went when I was 16. 776 00:41:27,322 --> 00:41:30,951 {\an8}Movie theaters that I went to, the magic shops. 777 00:41:32,327 --> 00:41:34,663 There's me, oh, my gosh. 778 00:41:35,956 --> 00:41:40,502 I went through my movie life, I went through locations for The Jerk. 779 00:41:41,002 --> 00:41:43,046 There's where we shot The Jerk, there, that house. 780 00:41:43,046 --> 00:41:47,133 [Steve, as Navin] Well, Mom, remember my dream of owning a big house on a hill? 781 00:41:47,634 --> 00:41:49,261 Well, I got that too. 782 00:41:51,096 --> 00:41:55,475 [Steve] But the whole drive was so nostalgic. 783 00:41:55,475 --> 00:41:57,435 But that's the thing about LA that's so interesting. 784 00:41:57,435 --> 00:42:00,522 I mean, it reflects your personal history, 785 00:42:00,522 --> 00:42:03,775 but just taking a drive, almost anywhere through LA, 786 00:42:03,775 --> 00:42:07,988 it's like an archaeological dig here, and even though it's not very old. 787 00:42:07,988 --> 00:42:11,783 Yeah, I always kinda made fun of it, because nothing matched. 788 00:42:11,783 --> 00:42:12,701 - Right. - You know? 789 00:42:12,701 --> 00:42:15,036 That's what we love about LA. 790 00:42:15,036 --> 00:42:18,582 - It's just so sweet. - [both laugh] 791 00:42:21,418 --> 00:42:22,544 Architecture. 792 00:42:22,544 --> 00:42:25,922 {\an8}Some of these buildings are over 20 years old. 793 00:42:25,922 --> 00:42:28,091 This house over here is Greek Revival. 794 00:42:28,091 --> 00:42:30,969 And they have to revive the Greek every morning who lives in it. 795 00:42:30,969 --> 00:42:33,305 And here's a Tudor mansion, and... 796 00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:35,390 ...a four-door mansion. 797 00:42:35,765 --> 00:42:37,309 You know, you're really nobody in LA 798 00:42:37,309 --> 00:42:39,853 unless you live in a house with a really big door. 799 00:42:39,853 --> 00:42:41,438 [woman laughs] 800 00:42:43,189 --> 00:42:45,400 Three, two, one... 801 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,693 Action, dolly. 802 00:42:46,693 --> 00:42:49,863 Sheila has been studying the art of conversation. 803 00:42:49,863 --> 00:42:52,198 You're taking a course in conversation? 804 00:42:52,198 --> 00:42:53,283 Yes. 805 00:42:58,788 --> 00:43:02,751 [Morgan] So, how did LA Story come out of what you were thinking about at the time? 806 00:43:03,209 --> 00:43:05,253 [Steve] Well, I think of it as artistic thread. 807 00:43:05,962 --> 00:43:09,507 I combined my experience with art and life. 808 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:11,760 [Steve] Martin Mull told me once, he said, 809 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,639 "People think artists talk about theory and ideas," 810 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:18,350 and he said, "But really we just talk about where to get paints." 811 00:43:18,350 --> 00:43:20,143 - Yeah. - [all laughing] 812 00:43:20,602 --> 00:43:22,687 I mean, each character has his own story. 813 00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:25,607 I mean, puppy is a bit too much, but you have to overlook things like that 814 00:43:25,607 --> 00:43:27,108 in these kind of paintings. 815 00:43:28,193 --> 00:43:30,570 [Steve] And then I, you know, threw everything at that. 816 00:43:31,154 --> 00:43:33,949 My experience with love and romance. 817 00:43:33,949 --> 00:43:36,201 And it just all came together in the movie. 818 00:43:36,201 --> 00:43:38,286 Ordinarily, I don't like to be around interesting people 819 00:43:38,286 --> 00:43:40,330 because it means I have to be interesting too. 820 00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:41,748 You saying I'm interesting? 821 00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:44,626 All I'm saying is that when I'm around you, 822 00:43:44,626 --> 00:43:46,294 I find myself showing off. 823 00:43:46,294 --> 00:43:48,838 Which is the idiot's version of being interesting. 824 00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:54,344 [David Letterman] You're recently married. Can you tell us where you went? 825 00:43:54,344 --> 00:43:58,390 {\an8}Oh, well, we were in Rome. And, together, that made it so wonderful. 826 00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:59,641 [audience laughing] 827 00:44:01,393 --> 00:44:05,146 [Steve] LA Story was almost a vehicle for whimsy. 828 00:44:05,981 --> 00:44:09,985 I found it very romantic, the idea of the city lights 829 00:44:09,985 --> 00:44:12,779 communicating to help the lovers get together. 830 00:44:13,488 --> 00:44:15,991 But that was where my head was. 831 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:21,162 [slow electric guitar melody playing] 832 00:44:21,162 --> 00:44:24,416 I met my wife, you know, she just brought something into my life. 833 00:44:24,416 --> 00:44:27,043 And when you meet someone right, everything seems calm. 834 00:44:27,043 --> 00:44:29,713 And that's essentially what the story is about. 835 00:44:33,425 --> 00:44:36,720 I read an article in The Times on induction and my brothers found out 836 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,306 that you can generate electrical currents in rabbits if you-- 837 00:44:44,144 --> 00:44:46,605 [interviewer] Are you saying romance can change your life? 838 00:44:46,605 --> 00:44:49,232 You know, this is a hugely important part of your life. 839 00:44:50,025 --> 00:44:56,114 I think I'm saying that this may not be the way things are. 840 00:44:57,032 --> 00:45:02,370 But isn't it nice for an hour and a half to imagine that they were this way? 841 00:45:03,455 --> 00:45:04,831 I think I should go. 842 00:45:07,125 --> 00:45:09,461 [music becomes dissonant] 843 00:45:11,213 --> 00:45:14,507 Do you two have any plans for the future for starting a family? 844 00:45:14,507 --> 00:45:16,134 [Donahue] Yeah, that's what I want to know, too. 845 00:45:16,134 --> 00:45:18,345 [audience laughter] 846 00:45:21,431 --> 00:45:24,142 - Oh, I have to answer! - [laughter] 847 00:45:26,061 --> 00:45:28,688 The way it works is they ask a question and then you answer. 848 00:45:33,985 --> 00:45:36,613 This is going to look great on the transcript of our program. 849 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:38,782 "A shrug." 850 00:45:41,409 --> 00:45:44,704 [Steve] When I married Victoria Tennant, I liked her a lot. 851 00:45:44,704 --> 00:45:49,417 She was really funny, very amusing and very smart, 852 00:45:49,417 --> 00:45:50,835 you know, and English. 853 00:45:52,671 --> 00:45:56,633 It was a relationship that just kind of defaulted into a romance. 854 00:45:56,633 --> 00:45:58,134 - We're best friends. - Best friends? 855 00:45:58,134 --> 00:46:00,804 - Since when is Roland your best friend? - He and I are very close. 856 00:46:00,804 --> 00:46:03,265 And also a part of it was, "I guess I should get married." 857 00:46:04,099 --> 00:46:06,977 Which is not a good reason. There's just no way to force it. 858 00:46:06,977 --> 00:46:07,894 I do. 859 00:46:09,437 --> 00:46:12,065 Going away and living in a hotel for three months, 860 00:46:12,065 --> 00:46:14,651 it's just almost like a bachelor life. 861 00:46:14,651 --> 00:46:18,029 You can't really conduct a marriage in a hotel room. 862 00:46:18,613 --> 00:46:20,949 I always felt like with romantic relationships, 863 00:46:20,949 --> 00:46:23,285 something was just about to go wrong. 864 00:46:24,536 --> 00:46:26,204 [chuckling] You know? 865 00:46:33,795 --> 00:46:35,422 Where do I find that? 866 00:46:37,215 --> 00:46:38,675 "Anecdotes." 867 00:46:39,342 --> 00:46:43,179 This is a story I was writing about... what it's like making movies. 868 00:46:45,390 --> 00:46:48,101 "A wonderful script called Leap of Faith landed on my desk. 869 00:46:48,518 --> 00:46:49,811 I was excited. 870 00:46:49,811 --> 00:46:53,899 My character was a revivalist preacher and heartless con man. 871 00:46:55,191 --> 00:46:59,946 My mind held visions of Burt Lancaster's award-winning performance as Elmer Gantry. 872 00:47:01,156 --> 00:47:03,074 I prepared with great diligence, 873 00:47:03,074 --> 00:47:05,327 I learned Irish stepdancing so my character 874 00:47:05,327 --> 00:47:08,288 could dance across the stage filled with the spirit. 875 00:47:08,288 --> 00:47:11,583 I dyed my grey hair brown so I would not be Steve Martin. 876 00:47:12,292 --> 00:47:16,254 I leapt across the screen spouting page after page of fiery sermons 877 00:47:16,254 --> 00:47:19,090 and great actors populated the movie. 878 00:47:19,090 --> 00:47:23,136 I started to see visions of awards and honors. 879 00:47:23,762 --> 00:47:27,766 But instead, the movie opened, the first line of the first review said, 880 00:47:27,766 --> 00:47:30,810 'Watch out when Steve Martin goes for the hair dye.'" 881 00:47:33,104 --> 00:47:36,566 {\an8}[Letterman] You've become, like, you're a big deal movie star now, 882 00:47:36,566 --> 00:47:38,151 {\an8}from the days when you did stand-up. 883 00:47:38,151 --> 00:47:41,279 You've made one really nice picture after another and you have a new one. 884 00:47:41,279 --> 00:47:43,365 You've made another movie now. 885 00:47:43,365 --> 00:47:44,574 Uh, yeah. 886 00:47:44,574 --> 00:47:45,742 [audience laughing] 887 00:47:45,742 --> 00:47:48,370 - What do you mean, "Yeah"? - Well, here's what it is. You know, I... 888 00:47:48,370 --> 00:47:50,705 It's not the making of the movies that I enjoy, 889 00:47:50,705 --> 00:47:53,166 it's actually the promotion that I enjoy. 890 00:47:53,959 --> 00:47:55,627 - You know, coming on the show. - Yeah. 891 00:47:55,627 --> 00:47:56,962 And showing a clip. 892 00:47:56,962 --> 00:47:59,339 If we could just make the clips, 893 00:47:59,339 --> 00:48:02,592 you know, that would be... that would be a great job. 894 00:48:02,592 --> 00:48:04,052 So what you're saying is, 895 00:48:04,052 --> 00:48:06,638 you're not so much interested in the actual work of making the film, 896 00:48:06,638 --> 00:48:08,723 - it's promoting it that you really enjoy. - I only do it 897 00:48:08,723 --> 00:48:11,977 so I can do interviews and morning talk shows. 898 00:48:17,399 --> 00:48:19,859 [Steve] So, these are my actual scripts. 899 00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:22,654 When I started making movies, I thought, "Okay. 900 00:48:22,654 --> 00:48:26,241 I have to make 40 movies in order to get five good ones." 901 00:48:27,117 --> 00:48:32,831 That's the way I thought because a movie is such a circus with so much input. 902 00:48:32,831 --> 00:48:36,501 I mean, you just can't know ahead of time. 903 00:48:37,794 --> 00:48:39,838 Planes, Trains and Automobiles. 904 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:43,717 I never did introduce myself. 905 00:48:43,717 --> 00:48:45,927 Del Griffith, American Light and Fixture, 906 00:48:45,927 --> 00:48:48,305 Director of Sales, Shower Curtain Ring Division. 907 00:48:48,305 --> 00:48:53,059 [Steve] John Candy was very sensitive and very complex, 908 00:48:53,059 --> 00:48:56,479 and we really loved each other. 909 00:48:57,397 --> 00:48:59,858 Uh, he had a beautiful scene... 910 00:49:02,068 --> 00:49:04,946 Look, I'm not gonna read this speech, but it's that long. 911 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,411 We're at a train station and he gives the entire explanation of his life, 912 00:49:11,411 --> 00:49:13,788 and I was opposite him. I was like weeping... 913 00:49:14,915 --> 00:49:16,416 ...as he was performing it. 914 00:49:16,917 --> 00:49:18,043 And it was all cut. 915 00:49:18,043 --> 00:49:21,254 And so I don't know why it was cut except for tempo, 916 00:49:21,254 --> 00:49:23,548 and maybe you're at the end and you don't want to hear a long speech. 917 00:49:23,548 --> 00:49:25,175 It was cut down to a line or two. 918 00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,136 I don't have a home. 919 00:49:31,556 --> 00:49:33,350 Marie's been dead for eight years. 920 00:49:35,435 --> 00:49:37,103 [Steve] Uh, there was I line I loved. 921 00:49:37,103 --> 00:49:40,440 He says, "I sort of attach myself to people from time to time 922 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,652 like with you, especially around the holidays. 923 00:49:43,652 --> 00:49:46,696 I can take it in March, July, October. 924 00:49:46,696 --> 00:49:48,281 But it gets hard." 925 00:49:50,283 --> 00:49:53,370 And then he said... "This time I couldn't let go." 926 00:50:02,754 --> 00:50:05,840 It got so frustrating. I wanted to stop because, 927 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,219 you know, you pour your heart into these movies. 928 00:50:09,219 --> 00:50:12,305 You know, you're thinking about, you're working hard, you're doing it. 929 00:50:12,305 --> 00:50:16,434 Then two years later, it's just another title on the video shelf, you know? 930 00:50:18,436 --> 00:50:21,398 Mixed Nuts. I knew it was a flop. 931 00:50:21,398 --> 00:50:24,025 We had-- The tests said it was not good. 932 00:50:24,776 --> 00:50:27,946 I remember driving down Ventura Boulevard in California 933 00:50:27,946 --> 00:50:34,035 {\an8}and the poster is my face with a Santa hat on. 934 00:50:35,287 --> 00:50:39,040 And I thought, "This is gonna be a hard Christmas." [laughs] 935 00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:42,085 [Gene Siskel] How bad could it be? 936 00:50:42,085 --> 00:50:44,963 Mixed Nuts is how bad. Very bad. 937 00:50:44,963 --> 00:50:46,840 - It's bad. It's bad. - Wow. 938 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,719 - Whew, is it bad. It's really, really bad. - I mean, I don't know... 939 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,429 Steve, can I just ask you a question quickly? 940 00:50:52,429 --> 00:50:54,097 - I don't really wanna talk. - Well, it's just a question. 941 00:50:54,097 --> 00:50:55,223 You must have been asked. 942 00:50:55,223 --> 00:50:57,559 {\an8}- Please, one question. - You're like... you're not commercial. 943 00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:58,602 {\an8}- How come... - What's the question? 944 00:50:58,602 --> 00:51:00,228 {\an8}- The question is... - You don't even have a question. 945 00:51:00,228 --> 00:51:01,855 How come you're not funny anymore? 946 00:51:01,855 --> 00:51:02,981 - Okay. - [man] Steve! 947 00:51:09,195 --> 00:51:11,573 [Steve] I felt lost at that time. 948 00:51:16,077 --> 00:51:19,331 I can't go down the road with Victoria, 949 00:51:19,331 --> 00:51:24,836 but when we did get divorced, I said, "This is not her fault." 950 00:51:24,836 --> 00:51:28,548 At most, both our faults, and at least my fault. 951 00:51:28,548 --> 00:51:29,966 [dry chuckle] 952 00:51:37,307 --> 00:51:42,437 The marriage breakup was the beginning of opening of a bottomless pit. 953 00:51:43,396 --> 00:51:46,983 [Morgan] I was thinking maybe you could think about a caption. 954 00:51:47,817 --> 00:51:50,070 [chuckles] Well, actually, it's, uh... 955 00:51:51,529 --> 00:51:52,739 ...perfect the way it is. 956 00:51:52,739 --> 00:51:54,783 I mean, it doesn't need a caption. 957 00:51:56,701 --> 00:51:58,870 [Steve] It was a... kind of a mid-life crisis. 958 00:52:01,248 --> 00:52:03,541 [Steve, on tape] Like a period where you're... 959 00:52:03,541 --> 00:52:05,377 You keep... keep going, you know, like, 960 00:52:05,377 --> 00:52:08,880 to show yourself and others that you're not a flash in the pan, you know. 961 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,716 And then you show that I'm gonna write this thing. 962 00:52:11,716 --> 00:52:13,552 And then show something else. 963 00:52:13,552 --> 00:52:16,471 You're just constantly showing and showing and showing. 964 00:52:16,471 --> 00:52:19,683 And I used to get great, great satisfaction from my work 965 00:52:19,683 --> 00:52:23,645 and it gave me my reason to respect myself. 966 00:52:25,021 --> 00:52:28,567 {\an8}And I realized that unless I was continually working, 967 00:52:28,567 --> 00:52:31,403 {\an8}I felt like people wouldn't like me. 968 00:52:32,112 --> 00:52:35,657 And there's a kind of emptiness left, and it's traumatic. 969 00:52:41,246 --> 00:52:44,708 {\an8}[Steve] I think that was a period when I was reading the self-help books. 970 00:52:46,126 --> 00:52:47,836 {\an8}I thought you're supposed to talk about everything. 971 00:52:47,836 --> 00:52:50,589 I would meet strangers on planes and sit with them and tell them 972 00:52:50,589 --> 00:52:54,259 my deepest inner thoughts. [chuckles] 973 00:52:56,303 --> 00:52:59,055 'Cause I thought that's what you were supposed to do. 974 00:53:03,310 --> 00:53:05,353 [Fischl] How to close the void. 975 00:53:06,771 --> 00:53:08,940 I think that's the nature of the... 976 00:53:09,774 --> 00:53:12,152 {\an8}...drive in art, is to... 977 00:53:12,861 --> 00:53:16,448 It comes from that deep awareness of the void. 978 00:53:19,576 --> 00:53:22,329 [Steve] When I started thinking in terms of the theater... 979 00:53:23,288 --> 00:53:24,956 ...my mind expanded. 980 00:53:25,957 --> 00:53:29,711 We should glance through a play I wrote called WASP. 981 00:53:30,712 --> 00:53:35,091 [Steve] I found myself writing things I would never, ever write in a movie. 982 00:53:36,134 --> 00:53:39,471 And it's, I'd say it's on the poignant side. 983 00:53:41,306 --> 00:53:44,267 [Barry Edelstein] WASP is about a nuclear American family 984 00:53:44,267 --> 00:53:47,604 {\an8}and the deep emotional dysfunction that's just below the surface. 985 00:53:48,521 --> 00:53:51,233 And the famous exchange that Steve writes about 986 00:53:51,233 --> 00:53:54,653 when his father came to see the premiere of The Jerk, 987 00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:56,488 that's literally in WASP. 988 00:53:56,488 --> 00:53:59,407 The boy has to make an architectural model for school. 989 00:53:59,407 --> 00:54:01,701 He shows it to his dad, "What do you think?" 990 00:54:03,662 --> 00:54:05,288 Well, you're no Frank Lloyd Wright. 991 00:54:06,081 --> 00:54:09,501 [Edelstein] So there's this pebble in the shoe of this family 992 00:54:09,501 --> 00:54:13,380 that would appear to be perfectly lovely, 993 00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:16,424 that is about the deep emotional distance 994 00:54:16,424 --> 00:54:19,177 and the sort of chill that's blowing through. 995 00:54:19,177 --> 00:54:24,015 My family, we were living in Texas and I was five 996 00:54:24,015 --> 00:54:26,017 and my mother was desperate to move here. 997 00:54:26,851 --> 00:54:29,354 She wanted my father to go into movies. 998 00:54:29,896 --> 00:54:33,608 Then we moved to Orange County and bought a house for 16,000 dollars. 999 00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:38,238 [Morgan] So he went into real estate? 1000 00:54:38,238 --> 00:54:41,616 [Melinda Dobbs] That was the booming area to be. 1001 00:54:41,616 --> 00:54:44,160 In those days, he couldn't support a family 1002 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,663 on what he could make in the theater. 1003 00:54:47,455 --> 00:54:49,499 I don't remember hugs. 1004 00:54:50,417 --> 00:54:52,043 I don't remember affection. 1005 00:54:52,961 --> 00:54:56,214 [Steve] I take so much joy in my kid, 1006 00:54:56,214 --> 00:55:01,219 I wondered what was going on with my father that he didn't. 1007 00:55:02,095 --> 00:55:05,223 [Edelstein] There's these sections in WASP where the family sits down to eat. 1008 00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:09,519 A silence at the dinner table. 1009 00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:13,315 The disinterest of the dad. 1010 00:55:15,775 --> 00:55:21,615 I think one of the best things [chuckles] I wrote, is the father. 1011 00:55:23,283 --> 00:55:25,493 You know, his son wants to buy a bicycle and he says, 1012 00:55:25,493 --> 00:55:27,829 "Well, you have to work for it. You have to pay for it." 1013 00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:29,706 He said, the son, "Well, I was kind of hoping that maybe..." 1014 00:55:29,706 --> 00:55:32,167 "You see, son, a bicycle is a luxury item. 1015 00:55:32,167 --> 00:55:34,044 You know what a luxury item is?" "No." 1016 00:55:34,044 --> 00:55:37,339 [father] A luxury item is a thing you have that annoys other people that you have it, 1017 00:55:37,339 --> 00:55:40,383 like our very green lawn, that's a luxury item. 1018 00:55:40,383 --> 00:55:43,386 It could be less green, I suppose, but that's not what it's about. 1019 00:55:43,386 --> 00:55:44,721 I work on that lawn. 1020 00:55:44,721 --> 00:55:47,265 Maybe more than I should. Pour a little bit of money into it. 1021 00:55:47,265 --> 00:55:51,144 But it's a luxury item for me, out there, to annoy the others. 1022 00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:54,356 [Steve] I remember my father got very mad at me 1023 00:55:54,356 --> 00:55:58,568 because I bought a pair of shorts that cost four dollars. 1024 00:55:58,568 --> 00:56:00,237 And he was through the roof. 1025 00:56:00,237 --> 00:56:03,114 That was a gigantic sum. But I earned it all myself. 1026 00:56:04,074 --> 00:56:06,493 Uh... But... 1027 00:56:06,493 --> 00:56:11,790 But from then on, I didn't take any money from my parents, after age ten. 1028 00:56:11,915 --> 00:56:14,751 "What I'm getting at is that you have to work for a luxury item. 1029 00:56:14,751 --> 00:56:17,796 So, if you want that bicycle, you're gonna have to work for it. Now..." 1030 00:56:18,338 --> 00:56:21,216 ...I have a little lot downtown that we've owned for several years, 1031 00:56:21,216 --> 00:56:23,927 and if you wanted to go down there after school on weekends, 1032 00:56:23,927 --> 00:56:28,640 and say, put up a building on it, I think we could get you that bicycle. 1033 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,184 - Gosh! - Yes, I know you're pretty excited. 1034 00:56:31,184 --> 00:56:33,019 It's not easy putting up a building, son, 1035 00:56:33,019 --> 00:56:35,522 but these are the ancient traditions handed down 1036 00:56:35,522 --> 00:56:38,316 from the peoples of Gondwanaland who lived in the plains of Golgotha, 1037 00:56:38,316 --> 00:56:40,277 based upon the precepts of Hammurabi, 1038 00:56:40,277 --> 00:56:42,571 written in Cuneiform on the gates of Babylon... 1039 00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:45,532 "...deduced from the cryptograms of the questioner of the Sphinx, 1040 00:56:45,532 --> 00:56:48,577 and gleaned from the incunabula of Ratdolt. 1041 00:56:48,577 --> 00:56:51,580 Delivered unto me by the fleet-footed Mercury when the reprobate..." 1042 00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:53,248 [Edelstein] Most people have a pebble in their shoe, 1043 00:56:53,248 --> 00:56:55,584 they take their shoe off and knock the pebble out. 1044 00:56:55,584 --> 00:57:00,046 But artists keep the pebble there and make art out of it. 1045 00:57:00,046 --> 00:57:02,048 You know? 1046 00:57:02,048 --> 00:57:05,427 Until, finally, it stops hurting your foot so much. 1047 00:57:05,427 --> 00:57:09,806 [father] The lyrics of What a Swell Party appeared on my living room wall in blood, 1048 00:57:09,806 --> 00:57:14,895 writ there by God himself and incised in the Holy Trowel of the Masons. 1049 00:57:14,895 --> 00:57:18,523 Son, we don't get to talk that much. 1050 00:57:18,523 --> 00:57:21,484 In fact, as far as I can remember, we've never talked. 1051 00:57:21,484 --> 00:57:23,737 But I was wondering, several years ago, 1052 00:57:23,737 --> 00:57:26,072 and unfortunately never got around to asking you until now, 1053 00:57:26,072 --> 00:57:27,657 but I was wondering... 1054 00:57:29,075 --> 00:57:30,952 ...what you plan to do with your life? 1055 00:57:32,996 --> 00:57:34,456 [Steve, Dailey chuckling] 1056 00:57:34,456 --> 00:57:35,665 I don't know if that's any good or not. 1057 00:57:35,665 --> 00:57:39,085 [Dailey] That is so great. It is just perfect. 1058 00:57:39,628 --> 00:57:42,214 {\an8}I don't know a lot about my father. 1059 00:57:42,881 --> 00:57:45,175 {\an8}But I don't think he was a good man. 1060 00:57:46,092 --> 00:57:49,012 And it has haunted me my whole life. 1061 00:57:49,971 --> 00:57:52,891 [Steve] I wrote this... let's see, what year? '96. 1062 00:57:52,891 --> 00:57:56,937 So, that's way before my autobiography. 1063 00:57:56,937 --> 00:58:02,275 And I think, in a way, it's a rehearsal for sections of the autobiography, 1064 00:58:02,275 --> 00:58:04,694 for writing about my father and home life. 1065 00:58:06,071 --> 00:58:08,281 Dear "Dad." 1066 00:58:08,281 --> 00:58:10,992 I put the "Dad" in quotes because when I was little, 1067 00:58:10,992 --> 00:58:14,579 I was told not to call you Dad, but Glenn. 1068 00:58:14,579 --> 00:58:16,915 So, I grew up without a dad. 1069 00:58:16,915 --> 00:58:18,750 I grew up with a Glenn. 1070 00:58:19,751 --> 00:58:23,964 Yeah, this letter starts off... very accusatory. 1071 00:58:23,964 --> 00:58:27,300 And it ends with understanding. 1072 00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:31,596 Yeah, it talks about how my work 1073 00:58:31,596 --> 00:58:34,933 was really trying to get approval from him. 1074 00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:41,398 [Steve] My friend, Terry, he said this at one point, 1075 00:58:41,398 --> 00:58:44,526 and it kind of changed my attitude toward my parents. 1076 00:58:44,526 --> 00:58:49,281 And he said, "If you have anything to say to your parents, say it now, 1077 00:58:49,281 --> 00:58:50,699 because one day, they'll be gone." 1078 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,747 That's when I started methodically going to visit them, talking to them. 1079 00:58:57,747 --> 00:59:00,083 I'd take them out to lunch. 1080 00:59:00,083 --> 00:59:02,419 You know, you realize what he... what he went through. 1081 00:59:02,419 --> 00:59:06,506 You know, it's a life of hopes and dreams. 1082 00:59:07,591 --> 00:59:11,344 And he was under incredible stress to support the family. 1083 00:59:11,344 --> 00:59:15,015 It must have been unbelievable, the pressure. 1084 00:59:15,724 --> 00:59:17,475 My mother wanted to go to work. 1085 00:59:17,475 --> 00:59:23,064 I remember my father saying to my mother, "No wife of mine is gonna work." 1086 00:59:23,064 --> 00:59:26,026 Just right out of a movie. 1087 00:59:27,652 --> 00:59:31,531 I have great sympathy for my father 1088 00:59:31,531 --> 00:59:36,036 not having the means to fulfill his dream. 1089 00:59:38,872 --> 00:59:41,082 [Morgan] How do you feel about him today? 1090 00:59:41,708 --> 00:59:43,335 I, uh... I like him. 1091 00:59:45,045 --> 00:59:47,631 You know, he had a really good sense of humor. 1092 00:59:49,007 --> 00:59:50,175 [chuckling] I had no idea. 1093 00:59:51,676 --> 00:59:56,348 And... yeah, I kind of wish I could talk to him again, you know? 1094 00:59:59,059 --> 01:00:00,101 [Steve] Best compliment I ever got, 1095 01:00:00,101 --> 01:00:02,938 is I wrote this story about my father in The New Yorker. 1096 01:00:03,688 --> 01:00:07,192 {\an8}And I got a letter from a woman and she said, um, 1097 01:00:08,485 --> 01:00:13,657 {\an8}"You know, I read the article and I gave it to my husband, and he read it. 1098 01:00:15,575 --> 01:00:17,035 And then he said..." 1099 01:00:19,955 --> 01:00:22,207 [breath shaking] 1100 01:00:24,209 --> 01:00:25,502 [whispers] Sorry. 1101 01:00:28,838 --> 01:00:31,258 [Charlie Rose] Take your time. Have some water. 1102 01:00:31,258 --> 01:00:32,842 I hate that I'm on television. 1103 01:00:32,842 --> 01:00:34,678 - [emotional laugh] - [audience laughing] 1104 01:00:35,637 --> 01:00:38,265 No, "He said, 'What's our son's phone number?'" 1105 01:00:39,516 --> 01:00:40,684 [Rose] Wow. 1106 01:00:43,019 --> 01:00:45,355 - Aren't we kind of winding down? - No, we are, we're going right now. 1107 01:00:45,355 --> 01:00:47,065 [audience laughing] 1108 01:00:47,899 --> 01:00:49,526 If we go on, I'm gonna kill myself. 1109 01:00:49,526 --> 01:00:51,486 [Rose laughing] 1110 01:00:56,157 --> 01:00:57,701 [Steve] Should I tell you my dream? 1111 01:00:58,577 --> 01:01:05,584 I dreamed a woman took me to an open grassy field to show me my own grave. 1112 01:01:06,167 --> 01:01:09,546 And the grave was open and there was a skeleton laying there, my skeleton. 1113 01:01:09,546 --> 01:01:12,799 And the skeleton had a big smile on its face. 1114 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,468 And I turned to the woman and I said, 1115 01:01:15,468 --> 01:01:19,472 "Does this mean it's possible to die happy?" 1116 01:01:19,472 --> 01:01:21,308 And she said, "Yes, it is." 1117 01:01:21,308 --> 01:01:24,644 And I said, "What do I need in order to die happy?" 1118 01:01:24,644 --> 01:01:26,938 And she said, "Adventure." 1119 01:01:28,607 --> 01:01:33,236 {\an8}And then I said, "You mean, like, seeing waterfalls and touring the world?" 1120 01:01:33,236 --> 01:01:35,238 {\an8}And she said, "No, people." 1121 01:01:41,369 --> 01:01:43,830 [Steve] So let's practice this 'cause we gotta play this in a week. 1122 01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:47,542 [playing intricate, up-tempo tune on banjo] 1123 01:01:54,424 --> 01:01:56,426 [playing continues] 1124 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,816 When I started playing the banjo again, after the divorce, 1125 01:02:11,816 --> 01:02:14,903 I thought, "Oh, there's gonna be, you know, criticism." 1126 01:02:14,903 --> 01:02:16,947 There just is, you know? 1127 01:02:16,947 --> 01:02:18,156 COVID out of practice. 1128 01:02:19,783 --> 01:02:23,912 "Comedian becomes a musician," you can't think of anything worse. 1129 01:02:23,912 --> 01:02:25,413 [chuckles] 1130 01:02:26,373 --> 01:02:27,374 [groans] 1131 01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:29,417 - [Morgan] Sounds good to me. - It's been a year and a half. 1132 01:02:29,417 --> 01:02:31,002 I know, but there's little fluffs in there. 1133 01:02:31,002 --> 01:02:33,088 I don't want Béla Fleck to hear this. 1134 01:02:33,547 --> 01:02:34,714 [Steve] And there wasn't. 1135 01:02:34,839 --> 01:02:37,676 {\an8}[two banjos playing bluegrass] 1136 01:03:00,657 --> 01:03:02,742 [Gopnik] If there's a thread running through 1137 01:03:02,742 --> 01:03:04,911 all of the things that Steve values, 1138 01:03:04,911 --> 01:03:08,832 it's the thread of the difficulty of accomplishment. 1139 01:03:10,458 --> 01:03:14,713 The kind of personality that just takes delight in mastering something, 1140 01:03:14,713 --> 01:03:19,009 going deep into its mechanics until you really understand how the thing works 1141 01:03:19,009 --> 01:03:21,928 and then discarding it, very often, because you've mastered it. 1142 01:03:27,392 --> 01:03:30,228 [Martin] You know, when I hear you play the banjo... 1143 01:03:31,438 --> 01:03:35,233 ...I now regret that I didn't keep up with my first love 1144 01:03:35,233 --> 01:03:36,651 - of a musical instrument... - What was that? 1145 01:03:36,651 --> 01:03:38,153 ...because we could have really teamed. 1146 01:03:38,153 --> 01:03:40,113 - What was it? - The jug. 1147 01:03:40,113 --> 01:03:42,991 [both laughing] 1148 01:03:46,912 --> 01:03:49,331 [engine revving] 1149 01:04:00,342 --> 01:04:02,552 [woman] Bachelor number two. Complete this sentence. 1150 01:04:03,470 --> 01:04:05,764 "This may sound a little weird, but..." 1151 01:04:05,764 --> 01:04:08,308 [chuckles] "I'm naked right now." 1152 01:04:08,308 --> 01:04:10,685 - That's-- [laughing] - [laughter, applause] 1153 01:04:14,856 --> 01:04:19,027 {\an8}We used to always vacation in St. Barts with him. 1154 01:04:19,778 --> 01:04:23,365 And it was just like me and Eric and Steve going down there. 1155 01:04:24,616 --> 01:04:26,409 Single Steve didn't want to be single Steve. 1156 01:04:26,409 --> 01:04:28,411 I mean, that's for sure. 1157 01:04:29,246 --> 01:04:32,290 You know, he'd meet some woman, and if she was reading a book, 1158 01:04:32,290 --> 01:04:34,876 he'd think, "Maybe we should go out." 1159 01:04:35,794 --> 01:04:38,004 Hi. [chuckles, sighs] 1160 01:04:38,004 --> 01:04:41,508 I was just noticing that book you're reading, Mayor of Casterbridge. 1161 01:04:41,508 --> 01:04:42,676 That's really a coincidence, 1162 01:04:42,676 --> 01:04:45,345 because I did my final term paper on Thomas Hardy my senior-- 1163 01:04:45,345 --> 01:04:47,389 How long have you been a lonely guy? 1164 01:04:53,478 --> 01:04:54,396 [slurping] 1165 01:04:54,396 --> 01:04:57,357 I wanna meet someone I can talk to, just get to know. 1166 01:04:57,357 --> 01:04:58,567 Cheers. 1167 01:05:02,654 --> 01:05:04,531 I can't help but be nervous out here. 1168 01:05:04,531 --> 01:05:06,283 Why? You're not doing anything wrong. 1169 01:05:10,453 --> 01:05:12,122 Do you like walks in the park? 1170 01:05:12,122 --> 01:05:13,415 - In the rain! - Oh, God! 1171 01:05:13,415 --> 01:05:15,500 You know what, I want you to see The Music Man. 1172 01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:16,918 - Because-- - I've seen that, I love The Music Man! 1173 01:05:16,918 --> 01:05:18,962 [Steve] I remember one date I had with a woman. 1174 01:05:21,882 --> 01:05:23,341 [both chattering faintly] 1175 01:05:24,050 --> 01:05:28,972 And we went to dinner and she sat next to Steven Spielberg. 1176 01:05:28,972 --> 01:05:32,017 And they seemed to hit it off well. 1177 01:05:32,017 --> 01:05:35,145 And this woman liked to always, to kind of, be in an argument. 1178 01:05:35,145 --> 01:05:37,063 [continuing, indistinct] 1179 01:05:37,063 --> 01:05:39,357 Which is not my personality. 1180 01:05:40,233 --> 01:05:41,735 [man yells] 1181 01:05:42,611 --> 01:05:44,571 [Steve] And so we're driving home, she said, 1182 01:05:44,571 --> 01:05:47,198 "Why can't you be more like Steven Spielberg?" 1183 01:05:47,198 --> 01:05:48,783 Smile, you son of a... 1184 01:05:53,163 --> 01:05:55,081 [Steve chuckling] 1185 01:05:55,081 --> 01:05:57,834 I just thought, "Okay, so that's the end of that." 1186 01:05:57,834 --> 01:05:59,794 [Steve chuckling] 1187 01:05:59,794 --> 01:06:01,838 [man laughing triumphantly] 1188 01:06:08,929 --> 01:06:11,306 - [Steve] That's a... that's a good thing. - Everyone underbid. 1189 01:06:11,306 --> 01:06:12,641 I'm just gonna... 1190 01:06:12,641 --> 01:06:14,100 Things will happen. 1191 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,894 [Anne groans] 1192 01:06:16,728 --> 01:06:18,230 [Steve tapping cards] 1193 01:06:21,399 --> 01:06:23,109 Hmm. [groans] 1194 01:06:24,361 --> 01:06:26,279 - [sharp grunt] - Ah. Oh. 1195 01:06:27,364 --> 01:06:28,740 [chuckles] 1196 01:06:29,282 --> 01:06:30,367 [Steve] I play mad. 1197 01:06:30,367 --> 01:06:31,701 [Anne] Just getting mean over there. 1198 01:06:31,701 --> 01:06:34,663 I got... I never would have said three in my life. 1199 01:06:36,414 --> 01:06:37,415 [Martin] Two. 1200 01:06:38,541 --> 01:06:40,085 - [Steve] One under? - One under. 1201 01:06:41,503 --> 01:06:44,965 With the exception of Anne, this is truly... 1202 01:06:46,049 --> 01:06:47,634 ...elderly people playing cards. 1203 01:06:47,634 --> 01:06:50,095 [cranky voice] Can't take your time, come on. 1204 01:06:50,095 --> 01:06:51,888 Yeah, but who's doing all the elderly talking? 1205 01:06:51,888 --> 01:06:56,726 I'm like a-- a young, kind of... improvisational whip. 1206 01:06:57,394 --> 01:06:58,478 And you're the one who, 1207 01:06:58,478 --> 01:07:00,105 [cranky voice] "That's not the way you count! You go..." 1208 01:07:00,105 --> 01:07:03,191 -"You go one..." - It's The Odd Couple. 1209 01:07:03,191 --> 01:07:04,234 - I know. - Yeah. 1210 01:07:05,110 --> 01:07:09,281 I'll tell you one thing I've learned... from this. 1211 01:07:09,281 --> 01:07:12,367 I do not want to be a documentary filmmaker. 1212 01:07:12,367 --> 01:07:14,536 - [chuckles] - The idea of having to sit here 1213 01:07:14,536 --> 01:07:20,792 and find one tiny something that's worthwhile in the middle-- 1214 01:07:23,169 --> 01:07:25,338 [Morgan] So, how did you meet Anne? 1215 01:07:27,632 --> 01:07:30,010 [Steve] It's so funny because at first you're filling in the blanks, 1216 01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:32,721 - 'cause I only met her on the... - Telephone. Yeah. 1217 01:07:32,721 --> 01:07:36,057 I was... I was working as a fact checker at The New Yorker. 1218 01:07:36,725 --> 01:07:39,144 The first thing I checked by him was a story 1219 01:07:39,144 --> 01:07:43,273 where somebody gets a parking ticket that spirals completely out of control. 1220 01:07:43,273 --> 01:07:44,691 You know, I called him up and I said, 1221 01:07:44,691 --> 01:07:48,445 "Okay, I know that this is comedy. I know it's not meant to be realistic, 1222 01:07:48,445 --> 01:07:50,947 but if you want to make it completely accurate, 1223 01:07:50,947 --> 01:07:52,866 here's what we could do." And he said, 1224 01:07:52,866 --> 01:07:56,703 "Absolutely. Let's make it completely accurate and also ridiculous." 1225 01:07:57,329 --> 01:07:59,539 And then I, kind of, became his regular person. 1226 01:08:00,290 --> 01:08:05,295 He wrote something about his family, which was, you know, really personal. 1227 01:08:05,295 --> 01:08:09,174 I talked to his sister, Melinda. I talked to all these people about this, 1228 01:08:09,174 --> 01:08:12,802 and we got to be very friendly on the telephone. 1229 01:08:13,929 --> 01:08:15,472 [Steve] I remember telling my shrink 1230 01:08:15,472 --> 01:08:18,475 that there's this woman that sticks in my head. 1231 01:08:19,893 --> 01:08:24,438 [Gornik] We were in St. Barts and he spent that whole vacation going, 1232 01:08:24,438 --> 01:08:29,527 "Anne Stringfield, Anne Stringfield. Don't you just love that name?" 1233 01:08:29,986 --> 01:08:31,571 [Anne] A few months after that, he invited me 1234 01:08:31,571 --> 01:08:33,531 to a group lunch he was having. 1235 01:08:33,531 --> 01:08:35,283 We both arrived early, 1236 01:08:35,283 --> 01:08:37,953 and I'd brought the New York Times crossword puzzle with me, 1237 01:08:37,953 --> 01:08:40,664 thinking I'll be the first person there and I'll sit and do my puzzle. 1238 01:08:41,790 --> 01:08:44,584 He was already there doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. 1239 01:08:44,584 --> 01:08:45,835 [chuckles] 1240 01:08:47,837 --> 01:08:49,923 There's probably a short list of people who think, 1241 01:08:49,923 --> 01:08:53,009 "Magic tricks, banjo. That's the guy for me." 1242 01:08:53,009 --> 01:08:55,762 But I'm... [laughing] I'm on that list. 1243 01:08:57,973 --> 01:09:00,267 He's got one that's a two-card trick. 1244 01:09:02,102 --> 01:09:04,771 [Steve] The backs and the fronts, two cards. 1245 01:09:04,771 --> 01:09:07,857 [Anne] I think it's one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen, 1246 01:09:07,857 --> 01:09:10,569 and I still don't completely understand how it's done. 1247 01:09:10,694 --> 01:09:13,655 [Steve] What I'm gonna do is take this card... 1248 01:09:15,865 --> 01:09:20,829 ...fold it in half like this so the face is on the outside. 1249 01:09:22,163 --> 01:09:23,873 And I'll take this card... 1250 01:09:25,125 --> 01:09:26,585 ...and fold it in half... 1251 01:09:28,128 --> 01:09:30,297 ...so the face is on the outside. 1252 01:09:30,297 --> 01:09:32,173 Slide that in like that. 1253 01:09:33,049 --> 01:09:36,011 Little clumsy, I haven't done it in years. 1254 01:09:36,011 --> 01:09:41,308 Now we have the back on the outside and the face on the inside. 1255 01:09:41,308 --> 01:09:44,018 Now, here's the amazing part. 1256 01:09:45,395 --> 01:09:47,647 If you take the card and you push it through... 1257 01:09:49,232 --> 01:09:50,609 ...you see the card turns over. 1258 01:09:50,609 --> 01:09:55,113 There's the back on the inside, and it's the whole card. 1259 01:09:55,113 --> 01:09:57,365 Entire card, I should say. Turn this over. 1260 01:09:58,325 --> 01:10:01,786 Do it again. Push through. 1261 01:10:03,121 --> 01:10:07,500 Card turns over. And again, the entire card. 1262 01:10:08,919 --> 01:10:11,463 The amazing part of this... 1263 01:10:12,881 --> 01:10:18,136 The only part that turns over is the part that has passed through. 1264 01:10:19,804 --> 01:10:21,014 So... 1265 01:10:22,974 --> 01:10:25,769 Here's the part that has passed through, 1266 01:10:25,769 --> 01:10:27,812 and here's the part that hasn't. 1267 01:10:30,023 --> 01:10:31,524 [Morgan chuckles] 1268 01:10:32,108 --> 01:10:33,652 [Steve] You know, you can... 1269 01:10:34,569 --> 01:10:35,737 There you go. 1270 01:10:38,907 --> 01:10:42,077 Somebody taught me that in Florida. I was at a club. 1271 01:10:42,077 --> 01:10:46,248 He showed me that and I was boggled. 1272 01:10:46,248 --> 01:10:47,707 And he said, "I'll show you how to do it." 1273 01:10:47,707 --> 01:10:49,542 And then he showed me how to do it, 1274 01:10:49,542 --> 01:10:51,628 and I still didn't understand how it was done. 1275 01:10:53,088 --> 01:10:54,798 [faint car horns honking] 1276 01:10:56,383 --> 01:10:58,969 [Letterman] Later this month in New York, there's a show of Steve's at the Met. 1277 01:10:58,969 --> 01:11:01,221 These are Ming... No, I'm sorry, Chinese ceramics. 1278 01:11:01,221 --> 01:11:03,348 Chinese ceramics. Ming is a part of that. 1279 01:11:03,348 --> 01:11:05,725 Yeah. And, is it safe or fair 1280 01:11:05,725 --> 01:11:07,602 to ask you what these things... the price of them? 1281 01:11:07,602 --> 01:11:10,355 Well, I usually don't like to talk about the value of things 1282 01:11:10,355 --> 01:11:12,566 because people start looking at something 1283 01:11:12,566 --> 01:11:15,235 and they're only looking at what it's worth, you know? 1284 01:11:15,235 --> 01:11:17,862 Like a great painting, it's worth four million dollars or something. 1285 01:11:17,862 --> 01:11:21,616 So, I just like to... I just say they start around 300,000 1286 01:11:21,616 --> 01:11:25,537 - and go to a million, or even two. - [audience laughter] 1287 01:11:25,537 --> 01:11:27,789 Two million dollars? That's unbelievable. 1288 01:11:27,789 --> 01:11:29,332 Yeah. Yeah they're going by-- 1289 01:11:29,332 --> 01:11:31,543 For example, this piece back... Oh, Christ. 1290 01:11:31,543 --> 01:11:33,503 [laughter, applause] 1291 01:11:35,839 --> 01:11:38,216 [Anne] He's got a great eye. Do you know about the thing at the... 1292 01:11:38,925 --> 01:11:41,553 ...maybe Mark Twain Prize? It was something in Washington, DC. 1293 01:11:41,553 --> 01:11:45,140 And we were all at-- You know, there was a dinner... at the... 1294 01:11:47,142 --> 01:11:48,852 See this is why I'm not the person to tell you this story, 1295 01:11:48,852 --> 01:11:50,687 but somebody else will tell you this story and it will be better. 1296 01:11:50,687 --> 01:11:53,982 So, there's a dinner at the National Gallery, all right? 1297 01:11:53,982 --> 01:11:58,069 {\an8}The evening before, he's awarded the Kennedy Honors and about 200 people, 1298 01:11:58,069 --> 01:12:01,489 there's a big dinner, and the paintings are all around the wall. 1299 01:12:01,489 --> 01:12:04,200 And a lady stands up and says, "Thing about Steve, you'll never notice, 1300 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,747 I bet you he could name every single painter on the wall here." 1301 01:12:08,747 --> 01:12:10,582 And Steve stood up. 1302 01:12:11,625 --> 01:12:13,168 And he started to go around the wall. 1303 01:12:13,168 --> 01:12:17,172 "Hopkins, Watkinson, Wilkins, July." 1304 01:12:17,172 --> 01:12:21,384 And he went round and he named every single painter on the wall, 1305 01:12:21,384 --> 01:12:24,846 all the way round the National... the gallery. 1306 01:12:24,846 --> 01:12:27,349 It was an extraordinary feat. 1307 01:12:29,476 --> 01:12:32,562 [Morgan] What place in your life does art occupy today? 1308 01:12:32,562 --> 01:12:37,192 It's definitely, I'd say, third. 1309 01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:42,614 Wife and family, and there's performance. 1310 01:12:42,614 --> 01:12:45,909 Writing, our thing. You know, artistic life. 1311 01:12:45,909 --> 01:12:47,744 And this is a good... 1312 01:12:48,703 --> 01:12:52,916 ...hobby that is very diverting, you know? 1313 01:12:52,916 --> 01:12:54,501 [Morgan] Where was it before? 1314 01:12:54,501 --> 01:12:55,919 First. 1315 01:12:55,919 --> 01:12:57,879 [crowd murmuring] 1316 01:12:57,879 --> 01:13:00,298 {\an8}[woman] You like to sit down and look at these and now you're sharing them. 1317 01:13:00,298 --> 01:13:01,883 {\an8}What about that? Talk to us about that. 1318 01:13:02,467 --> 01:13:05,011 [Steve] You know, it's very personal, it's very private and, uh... 1319 01:13:05,011 --> 01:13:06,763 except maybe... up till now. 1320 01:13:08,932 --> 01:13:13,812 What changed is I met my wife. 1321 01:13:21,236 --> 01:13:24,739 My private self was able to go somewhere else. 1322 01:13:27,576 --> 01:13:32,998 This art thing could then be free to not be my salvation. 1323 01:13:35,083 --> 01:13:36,376 [Jiminy Glick] You are absolutely wonderful. 1324 01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,669 You do all this art, 1325 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:39,296 and that's just to impress people, to show people 1326 01:13:39,296 --> 01:13:41,590 - that you're not just a comic? - Yes, that's right. 1327 01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:43,633 I've always wanted to ask you that. People said ask him that 1328 01:13:43,633 --> 01:13:46,094 and I think, "Why? We all know the answer." 1329 01:13:46,094 --> 01:13:47,387 Who's de Kooning? 1330 01:13:47,387 --> 01:13:49,931 De Kooning is an important American-- 1331 01:13:49,931 --> 01:13:51,558 Did you see the movie, Pollock? 1332 01:13:53,727 --> 01:13:54,769 Did you see the movie, 1333 01:13:54,769 --> 01:13:56,980 The Agony and the Ecstasy, about Michelangelo? 1334 01:13:56,980 --> 01:13:59,649 I saw Madame X with Lana Turner. 1335 01:13:59,649 --> 01:14:02,694 And in the background, there was a wonderful abstract painting 1336 01:14:02,694 --> 01:14:04,446 that everyone pretended to care about. 1337 01:14:04,446 --> 01:14:07,657 And I think that that was a de Kooning. 1338 01:14:11,411 --> 01:14:14,080 [Steve] "I lost interest in movies at exactly the same time 1339 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,707 the movies lost interest in me. 1340 01:14:15,707 --> 01:14:18,793 After four decades, I had finally exhausted my movie intrigue, 1341 01:14:18,793 --> 01:14:21,213 that deep belief that justified the investment of time, 1342 01:14:21,213 --> 01:14:23,465 that buffered the periodic stinging reviews, 1343 01:14:23,465 --> 01:14:25,592 that protected me against the judgment of the box office. 1344 01:14:25,592 --> 01:14:27,260 And eventually you run out of gas. 1345 01:14:27,260 --> 01:14:29,304 Goodbye, movies, we had a great time." 1346 01:14:30,597 --> 01:14:32,766 I love that one. I love that last line. 1347 01:14:32,766 --> 01:14:36,311 It could just be written with little marginalia. 1348 01:14:36,311 --> 01:14:37,646 - Gotta have it. - Waving goodbye. 1349 01:14:37,646 --> 01:14:38,855 Gotta have it in there. 1350 01:14:39,272 --> 01:14:41,733 We still haven't landed on a title. 1351 01:14:42,567 --> 01:14:44,903 - I thought we had. - Have we landed a hundred percent? 1352 01:14:44,903 --> 01:14:47,405 "Memories of the Movies and Other Diversions." 1353 01:14:47,405 --> 01:14:50,116 What happened to "Number One is Walking" or... 1354 01:14:50,116 --> 01:14:51,826 - That was an option. - Yeah. 1355 01:14:51,826 --> 01:14:53,078 Number One is Walking. 1356 01:14:53,078 --> 01:14:56,915 I still like the idea of you in the... the rubbery pose. 1357 01:14:56,915 --> 01:14:58,833 [Bliss] Yeah, I do too and, uh... 1358 01:14:58,833 --> 01:15:00,627 It's a book about your movie career. 1359 01:15:00,627 --> 01:15:03,755 That's what people think, you know, it's gonna be a big identifying... 1360 01:15:03,755 --> 01:15:05,423 Now I'm learning what people think of me. 1361 01:15:05,423 --> 01:15:06,758 [laughter] 1362 01:15:07,676 --> 01:15:08,510 [Bliss] Exactly. 1363 01:15:08,510 --> 01:15:10,136 - That's exactly right. Yeah. - You know... 1364 01:15:10,136 --> 01:15:11,638 [Futter] It is. Take a picture. 1365 01:15:11,638 --> 01:15:13,098 [Bliss] That's it. That's literally... 1366 01:15:13,098 --> 01:15:14,975 - Can he take a picture? - All right. 1367 01:15:14,975 --> 01:15:17,310 [Futter laughing] 1368 01:15:18,144 --> 01:15:19,938 [Bliss chuckles] 1369 01:15:30,407 --> 01:15:32,909 [Steve] Usually, you get married, you have a child, you work, 1370 01:15:32,909 --> 01:15:35,870 and then your child is grown, and then you're 60 or 70 1371 01:15:35,870 --> 01:15:37,455 and the children are out of the house. 1372 01:15:37,455 --> 01:15:39,165 My life is completely backwards. 1373 01:15:39,165 --> 01:15:41,418 I worked very hard early on 1374 01:15:41,418 --> 01:15:43,753 and then I have a happy marriage 1375 01:15:43,753 --> 01:15:46,464 and a fantastic child at this end. 1376 01:15:46,464 --> 01:15:49,050 And, um... I love it. 1377 01:15:49,968 --> 01:15:51,428 Those are the done ones. 1378 01:15:52,512 --> 01:15:53,680 I'm signing... 1379 01:15:56,266 --> 01:15:57,517 ...six thousand of these. 1380 01:15:57,517 --> 01:15:59,185 - [Morgan] No, really? - Yeah. 1381 01:15:59,728 --> 01:16:02,355 But I set up an iPad and I just do this 1382 01:16:02,355 --> 01:16:04,816 and sometimes I... during lunch. 1383 01:16:04,816 --> 01:16:06,401 [Morgan] You don't outsource it? 1384 01:16:06,401 --> 01:16:09,821 No, that would be... that would be wrong. 1385 01:16:14,701 --> 01:16:18,663 [Morgan] So, we counted it up and you had 27 kids in movies. 1386 01:16:19,873 --> 01:16:21,875 [Steve laughs wryly] 1387 01:16:22,626 --> 01:16:26,504 [Steve] Did I talk about this before? About how movie fatherhood 1388 01:16:26,504 --> 01:16:28,798 paved the way for actual fatherhood? 1389 01:16:28,798 --> 01:16:30,592 You're a kid like I was. 1390 01:16:30,592 --> 01:16:32,469 You have a lot of worries, that's all. 1391 01:16:34,971 --> 01:16:37,265 I started doing movies with children. 1392 01:16:38,308 --> 01:16:40,685 And I liked them, but I thought, 1393 01:16:40,685 --> 01:16:44,064 "Well, this is actually perfect. I get them at their best." 1394 01:16:44,898 --> 01:16:46,691 - [children yelling] - [Steve] Three hours a day, 1395 01:16:46,691 --> 01:16:48,485 and then the parents have to go home 1396 01:16:48,485 --> 01:16:50,987 and deal with everything else, which I knew was trouble. 1397 01:16:50,987 --> 01:16:52,322 [boy, crying] I'm okay, Daddy! 1398 01:16:52,322 --> 01:16:55,200 No, get up there now, you're not going out our gate. You're grounded. 1399 01:16:55,700 --> 01:16:58,536 [Steve] And then Diane Keaton had children. 1400 01:16:58,536 --> 01:17:02,666 And I remember sitting there, her daughter was playing in the yard, 1401 01:17:02,666 --> 01:17:07,087 and I thought, "I could see a kid out there playing in the backyard." 1402 01:17:08,421 --> 01:17:11,800 It was really a joy and he seemed interested, 1403 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,593 and very warm 1404 01:17:14,427 --> 01:17:17,264 about Duke, the little nutcase. 1405 01:17:17,264 --> 01:17:18,598 [laughing] He was so great. 1406 01:17:19,641 --> 01:17:24,062 For me, it was just kind of like, wow, he was just kind. 1407 01:17:24,062 --> 01:17:25,897 [man] You can imagine yourself as a father. 1408 01:17:25,897 --> 01:17:27,315 Yeah. Mm-hm. 1409 01:17:28,775 --> 01:17:29,609 [man laughs] 1410 01:17:29,609 --> 01:17:31,319 - [girl laughing] - You think that's hilarious? 1411 01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:33,113 Well, you're naughty, naughty, naughty! 1412 01:17:33,113 --> 01:17:36,700 When I first started realizing that he was somebody I might want be with, 1413 01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:40,328 I thought, "Well, you know, he hasn't had a kid at this point." 1414 01:17:40,328 --> 01:17:41,329 Um... 1415 01:17:41,997 --> 01:17:45,875 If I wanted to be with him, that probably would not be in the cards. 1416 01:17:46,585 --> 01:17:49,629 It was something that I had had in the back of my mind thinking, 1417 01:17:49,629 --> 01:17:52,132 either I will have to let this relationship go 1418 01:17:52,132 --> 01:17:54,968 or I will have to let this idea go. 1419 01:17:55,635 --> 01:17:56,511 [sighs] 1420 01:17:57,178 --> 01:17:59,306 [Dobbs] I don't think he ever thought he was gonna have a child either. 1421 01:18:00,098 --> 01:18:01,516 It never occurred to him. 1422 01:18:01,516 --> 01:18:05,979 Probably because his childhood wasn't something that was so ideal 1423 01:18:05,979 --> 01:18:08,690 he'd want to pass on. Um... 1424 01:18:09,316 --> 01:18:11,526 He didn't see any need to have to have one. 1425 01:18:12,527 --> 01:18:14,237 - George? - Nina? 1426 01:18:14,237 --> 01:18:16,948 Honey, I need to know how you feel about all this. 1427 01:18:18,074 --> 01:18:19,492 - [man] They don't have hot dogs! - [boy crying] 1428 01:18:19,492 --> 01:18:21,453 God. Don't--! Son! 1429 01:18:21,453 --> 01:18:22,746 [boy shrieking] 1430 01:18:22,746 --> 01:18:24,831 No! No! No! 1431 01:18:24,831 --> 01:18:28,001 I feel super about it. I'm totally up for it. 1432 01:18:28,001 --> 01:18:29,419 You are? 1433 01:18:30,212 --> 01:18:31,379 Definitely. 1434 01:18:31,379 --> 01:18:33,423 [Dailey] He called me, he said, "Are you sitting down?" 1435 01:18:33,423 --> 01:18:36,259 I go, "Yeah." He says, "Okay, good. 1436 01:18:36,259 --> 01:18:38,136 I have some big news." "What?" 1437 01:18:38,136 --> 01:18:39,846 You're gonna have a baby. 1438 01:18:39,846 --> 01:18:43,099 "Anne is pregnant." I said, "Who's the father?" 1439 01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:47,812 Things like this do not happen to men my age. 1440 01:18:47,812 --> 01:18:50,690 Come on, Picasso had children well into his 70s. 1441 01:18:50,690 --> 01:18:53,109 Well, you know, Picasso. I mean, Picasso. 1442 01:18:53,109 --> 01:18:55,779 I mean, he's the one guy in history who had kids into his 70s. 1443 01:18:55,779 --> 01:18:58,365 But you know, he's an artist, he can do anything he wants. 1444 01:18:58,365 --> 01:19:00,784 I'm just-- You know, I'm just a... a regular Joe. 1445 01:19:01,534 --> 01:19:03,578 [faint siren wailing] 1446 01:19:03,578 --> 01:19:05,205 [Michaels] I think I've saved the voicemail 1447 01:19:05,205 --> 01:19:07,207 that he called from the hospital. 1448 01:19:07,207 --> 01:19:12,295 For him to be that emotional and that comfortable with being emotional, 1449 01:19:12,295 --> 01:19:14,714 that's just as good as it can possibly be. 1450 01:19:14,714 --> 01:19:16,216 - [man] Push. Here comes the baby. - [woman] There you go. 1451 01:19:16,216 --> 01:19:18,468 - [woman straining] - Good. Here it is. 1452 01:19:18,969 --> 01:19:20,679 It's a girl! Good. 1453 01:19:20,679 --> 01:19:22,389 - Congratulations, Mom. - [crying] 1454 01:19:22,389 --> 01:19:27,477 [Steve] I mean, the first time I saw true love in my life 1455 01:19:27,477 --> 01:19:30,105 was after the baby was born. 1456 01:19:31,481 --> 01:19:32,732 It's a girl. 1457 01:19:33,441 --> 01:19:34,693 I love girls. 1458 01:19:35,151 --> 01:19:38,071 I looked over at Anne and she's holding the baby 1459 01:19:38,071 --> 01:19:40,907 and she's looking into her face, 1460 01:19:40,907 --> 01:19:44,452 and there was no one else on the planet. 1461 01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:50,166 [baby crying twice] 1462 01:19:50,166 --> 01:19:52,836 [applause] 1463 01:19:53,211 --> 01:19:55,422 {\an8}I am so proud to be here in Washington, DC 1464 01:19:55,422 --> 01:19:59,092 {\an8}which I have just recently learned is the nation's capital. 1465 01:19:59,092 --> 01:20:00,468 [laughter] 1466 01:20:02,429 --> 01:20:05,640 And to receive this coveted Mark Twain Award, 1467 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:10,270 which is the only significant American award for comedy, 1468 01:20:10,270 --> 01:20:11,813 except for money. 1469 01:20:11,813 --> 01:20:13,356 [laughter] 1470 01:20:13,940 --> 01:20:16,192 That was interesting to me because Steve is different. 1471 01:20:16,192 --> 01:20:18,028 His course is entirely different. 1472 01:20:19,070 --> 01:20:22,908 He certainly walked away from stand-up. But not really. 1473 01:20:24,242 --> 01:20:28,079 {\an8}You know, it is said that the art and craft of filmmaking is collaborative 1474 01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:33,668 {\an8}so to be singled out and rewarded tonight means... 1475 01:20:34,461 --> 01:20:36,213 that that is not true. 1476 01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:37,464 [laughter] 1477 01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:40,717 [Idle] He loves doing it. He's just so funny. 1478 01:20:40,717 --> 01:20:42,010 He's still hilarious. 1479 01:20:43,428 --> 01:20:44,554 Huh. 1480 01:20:46,014 --> 01:20:47,349 Bastard. 1481 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:49,684 And I... 1482 01:20:49,684 --> 01:20:51,770 [applause] 1483 01:20:53,396 --> 01:20:55,607 {\an8}...accept this award humbly. 1484 01:20:55,607 --> 01:20:58,735 {\an8}And the only thing that could have possibly made it better 1485 01:20:58,735 --> 01:21:00,987 was if there had been other nominees... 1486 01:21:01,321 --> 01:21:03,531 [laughter swelling] 1487 01:21:05,867 --> 01:21:09,162 ...so I could have the feeling that I beat someone. 1488 01:21:10,038 --> 01:21:11,206 Thank you very much. 1489 01:21:17,003 --> 01:21:19,339 - [Steve] Hello. How do you do? - Hi, Steve. I'm Brandy O'Toole. 1490 01:21:19,339 --> 01:21:21,424 - Nice to meet you. - [Steve] How do you do? Nice to meet you. 1491 01:21:21,424 --> 01:21:22,717 [O'Toole] I'm just gonna give you a little rundown 1492 01:21:22,717 --> 01:21:24,427 - of what we're doing today. - [Steve] Okay. 1493 01:21:24,427 --> 01:21:27,430 [O'Toole] Obviously, we'll start with the Emmy interview, which is ten minutes. 1494 01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:29,391 - [Steve] Right. - [O'Toole] Follow me in here. 1495 01:21:29,391 --> 01:21:31,518 [O'Toole] So, we'll have that, the Emmy elevator set. 1496 01:21:31,518 --> 01:21:35,522 We'll be there for a bit, and we'll do group shots and just singles. 1497 01:21:35,522 --> 01:21:37,357 - Okay. - We'll do a changeover from there. 1498 01:21:37,357 --> 01:21:39,484 - Okay. - [O'Toole] It'll all move very quickly. 1499 01:21:39,484 --> 01:21:40,610 Everything is... 1500 01:21:40,610 --> 01:21:43,863 [Seinfeld] Is there a point that you don't want to be on a camera anymore? 1501 01:21:43,863 --> 01:21:47,117 I'm watching out for that, but I'm in a television show right now. 1502 01:21:47,117 --> 01:21:49,619 - I know. - Where I get to play somebody else. 1503 01:21:49,619 --> 01:21:52,038 [Steve] Okay, now what? Wardrobe? 1504 01:21:52,747 --> 01:21:54,165 - [Selena Gomez] Hi, Steve. - Oh, hi, Selena. 1505 01:21:54,165 --> 01:21:55,709 You know what, I think I would look good in that. 1506 01:21:55,709 --> 01:21:57,544 - I think we have to change out-- - You could look cool in this. 1507 01:21:57,544 --> 01:21:59,504 Yeah, yeah. Are you-- Hi. What's your name? 1508 01:21:59,504 --> 01:22:00,630 Yes. Amber. 1509 01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:03,258 [Steve] I wasn't even gonna act in it, and then they said, "Would you act in it?" 1510 01:22:03,258 --> 01:22:05,260 I said, "Well, I would if it could be done in New York, 1511 01:22:05,260 --> 01:22:06,595 I can't leave my child. 1512 01:22:06,595 --> 01:22:10,307 I can't go do the regular shooting in Atlanta for three months." 1513 01:22:10,849 --> 01:22:14,352 But I thought, "Well, as the writer I'm gonna be there everyday anyway." 1514 01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:17,105 - Marty. - Yeah? 1515 01:22:17,105 --> 01:22:22,360 The documentary just needs a two-hour interview with you and a number. 1516 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,196 ♪ Why did I do it? I had a dream ♪ 1517 01:22:25,196 --> 01:22:28,158 I think we're gonna not do that. But thank you. 1518 01:22:28,158 --> 01:22:29,659 [chuckling] 1519 01:22:30,702 --> 01:22:32,078 [laughter] 1520 01:22:32,078 --> 01:22:33,455 - [woman] Cute. - [Steve cackling] 1521 01:22:33,455 --> 01:22:36,207 [woman] We love the laughs. Yes. So good. 1522 01:22:36,207 --> 01:22:37,792 [woman] Oh, young man? 1523 01:22:38,877 --> 01:22:40,253 [Selena laughing] 1524 01:22:40,837 --> 01:22:44,424 It's almost impossible. I'm 76. 1525 01:22:44,424 --> 01:22:46,968 - [Seinfeld] Yeah. - And you got a hit television show. 1526 01:22:46,968 --> 01:22:49,221 - Yeah. - There's not... That doesn't happen. 1527 01:22:49,221 --> 01:22:51,181 - No, it does. It does. - Yeah. 1528 01:22:51,181 --> 01:22:52,557 - It does happen? - Sure. 1529 01:22:52,557 --> 01:22:54,601 Who's 76 and has a hit television show? 1530 01:22:55,143 --> 01:22:56,811 Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin. 1531 01:22:56,811 --> 01:22:58,355 Now that's true. Absolutely. 1532 01:22:58,897 --> 01:23:00,982 - I think I made that point. - I think you did. 1533 01:23:00,982 --> 01:23:03,526 - I think you won and I'd just like to... - I really won that one. 1534 01:23:03,526 --> 01:23:04,736 - ...say it's been great. - I loved that. 1535 01:23:04,736 --> 01:23:06,613 [both laughing] 1536 01:23:15,664 --> 01:23:18,667 He's encouraging me to have a child, this is '96. 1537 01:23:19,793 --> 01:23:22,045 So, that's, uh... many years away. 1538 01:23:23,213 --> 01:23:25,674 [father] If in your 60s you have a three-year-old daughter, 1539 01:23:25,674 --> 01:23:27,717 you will not be involved in a divorce. 1540 01:23:27,717 --> 01:23:30,595 Your relationships have all been too constant and responsible 1541 01:23:30,595 --> 01:23:32,430 to point in that direction. 1542 01:23:32,430 --> 01:23:34,683 If you think Roger is important in your life, 1543 01:23:34,683 --> 01:23:36,434 just wait until you have a child. 1544 01:23:36,434 --> 01:23:38,645 You not only learn from your own mistakes. 1545 01:23:38,645 --> 01:23:40,438 I know you will have learned much from mine 1546 01:23:40,438 --> 01:23:43,525 because you are a great student of human nature. 1547 01:23:45,318 --> 01:23:46,528 Hi, it's Daddy. 1548 01:23:46,528 --> 01:23:49,489 {\an8}- It's March 18th, 2020. - It's Stevie! 1549 01:23:49,489 --> 01:23:52,242 {\an8}- And we are here in Santa Barbara... - Stevie saying hello to ya! 1550 01:23:52,242 --> 01:23:56,246 I just realized, I've never told you I loved you, right? 1551 01:23:56,246 --> 01:23:58,582 I never did? I can't believe that. 1552 01:23:58,582 --> 01:24:00,750 Anyway, I do, and you... 1553 01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:02,836 I love you and Mama, I just want to let you know. 1554 01:24:04,045 --> 01:24:07,257 I have no idea if I'm a good dad or bad. I don't think I'm a bad dad. 1555 01:24:08,383 --> 01:24:10,260 I don't know what a good dad is. 1556 01:24:11,052 --> 01:24:14,306 But, uh... I'm a kind dad. 1557 01:24:16,266 --> 01:24:18,602 You know, he does magic tricks for her birthday party. 1558 01:24:21,521 --> 01:24:26,318 But... it seems to go, uh... unobserved. 1559 01:24:26,318 --> 01:24:27,694 You know, I remember my rule. 1560 01:24:27,694 --> 01:24:30,322 Never perform for children under eight. 1561 01:24:30,322 --> 01:24:31,740 - [Morgan, laughing] Exactly. - Yeah. 1562 01:24:33,408 --> 01:24:35,076 [Anne] He's teaching her how to play banjo. 1563 01:24:36,286 --> 01:24:40,373 If she's upset about something, he can fix that. 1564 01:24:40,373 --> 01:24:43,877 He can just... He can fix it by making her laugh. 1565 01:24:43,877 --> 01:24:46,004 It's kind of amazing. 1566 01:24:46,004 --> 01:24:50,508 [stern voice] When I get back, things are gonna start changin'. 1567 01:24:50,508 --> 01:24:55,680 Oh, absolutely, no more fun, no more games, 1568 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,599 only hard, hard work. 1569 01:24:58,016 --> 01:25:00,894 He lets her style his hair a lot, and then he'll say, 1570 01:25:00,894 --> 01:25:03,396 "I look good, right? Because I want to look good for Mama," 1571 01:25:03,396 --> 01:25:05,273 and she'll say, "You look so good." 1572 01:25:06,233 --> 01:25:10,028 [Dobbs] He can be the things that he wanted from our dad. 1573 01:25:10,028 --> 01:25:13,865 This child will never not know love. 1574 01:25:14,574 --> 01:25:17,410 How do you feel about your daughter being in the film? 1575 01:25:17,410 --> 01:25:18,495 I hate it. 1576 01:25:18,495 --> 01:25:24,834 There's too much joy in the family life to compromise it in any way. 1577 01:25:26,127 --> 01:25:28,547 I think people understand you don't want to show your kids on camera. 1578 01:25:29,756 --> 01:25:31,174 But I realize it's a part of the story, 1579 01:25:31,174 --> 01:25:35,637 so let's just use a stick figure to represent... a child. 1580 01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:44,312 {\an8}[usher] Okay, have your tickets ready, right here. 1581 01:25:44,312 --> 01:25:47,315 [Steve] The show is still an hour fifty-five. 1582 01:25:47,315 --> 01:25:51,278 And I feel the ideal length is, like, an hour forty-eight. 1583 01:25:51,278 --> 01:25:54,739 Well, I mean, I guess you could cut back on the banjo. 1584 01:25:54,739 --> 01:25:56,449 [both laughing] 1585 01:25:56,449 --> 01:25:57,909 [Steve] But I have a partner, now. 1586 01:25:57,909 --> 01:26:00,370 That makes everything so much easier. 1587 01:26:00,370 --> 01:26:04,082 And, you know, if we try something new and it just is zero... 1588 01:26:04,082 --> 01:26:05,000 Yeah. 1589 01:26:05,458 --> 01:26:09,880 I have a partner that I can look at and we go... "Huh." 1590 01:26:11,214 --> 01:26:12,966 What if Marty dies? 1591 01:26:13,675 --> 01:26:15,510 Why am I laughing? 1592 01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:16,845 What will you do then? 1593 01:26:17,178 --> 01:26:19,848 Uh, I would probably stop. I'm serious. 1594 01:26:19,848 --> 01:26:21,433 - Really? - Yeah. Yeah. 1595 01:26:21,433 --> 01:26:22,893 What am I gonna do? It's like... 1596 01:26:22,893 --> 01:26:26,771 I don't know, I don't see my career as... "I'm back!" 1597 01:26:26,771 --> 01:26:28,481 - [Seinfeld laughs] - I don't know. 1598 01:26:28,857 --> 01:26:30,483 It's so amazing, really. 1599 01:26:30,483 --> 01:26:32,944 You were a single stand-up, 1600 01:26:32,944 --> 01:26:36,698 and then found that you liked working as a team. 1601 01:26:37,449 --> 01:26:39,200 One, two, three, can you hear me, Steve? 1602 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,869 - Yeah. - [Martin laughs] 1603 01:26:40,869 --> 01:26:42,662 - You don't have to have an attitude... - You're right there. 1604 01:26:42,662 --> 01:26:44,414 You'd said you couldn't hear me last night. 1605 01:26:44,414 --> 01:26:46,666 You guys should get out of the sun. 1606 01:26:46,666 --> 01:26:47,876 [piano chord] 1607 01:26:47,876 --> 01:26:49,294 [sitting man] It's actually not that hot. 1608 01:26:49,294 --> 01:26:51,963 [Martin] ♪ We're so glad... ♪ 1609 01:26:51,963 --> 01:26:53,840 This is why I don't wear this. 1610 01:26:54,591 --> 01:26:55,884 [Martin] Huh, huh, huh! 1611 01:26:55,884 --> 01:26:58,762 The only Canadian dumb enough to turn down Schitt's Creek-- 1612 01:26:58,762 --> 01:27:01,765 "to say no to Schitt's Creek"? to... 1613 01:27:01,765 --> 01:27:04,059 - [Martin] "Turn down"? - Yeah, well, that's what I said. 1614 01:27:04,059 --> 01:27:06,353 ♪ I'll check the car is in your garage ♪ 1615 01:27:06,353 --> 01:27:08,605 ♪ And I would like an ass massage ♪ 1616 01:27:08,605 --> 01:27:10,190 - Is that better? - [Martin] No. 1617 01:27:10,190 --> 01:27:13,026 - [woman] Five minutes to go. - No. Check the car-- What else is it? 1618 01:27:13,026 --> 01:27:15,695 You know what, rather than get to-- You just put your arm around me and I'll-- 1619 01:27:15,695 --> 01:27:17,030 Yeah, that's fine, yeah, I like that. 1620 01:27:17,572 --> 01:27:19,991 ♪ We would like an indoor cinema ♪ 1621 01:27:19,991 --> 01:27:22,911 ♪ And he needs coffee for his enema ♪ 1622 01:27:22,911 --> 01:27:24,788 - Whoo! - [Martin cracks up] 1623 01:27:24,788 --> 01:27:25,872 [Steve] Then we're making it longer, though. 1624 01:27:25,872 --> 01:27:29,167 - I know. - So, we've done nothing. 1625 01:27:29,167 --> 01:27:32,379 Should I just say, "Fuck your cat," and move on? [laughs] 1626 01:27:32,379 --> 01:27:34,589 ♪ In our sexy... ♪ 1627 01:27:34,589 --> 01:27:37,342 - ♪ Underpants ♪ - ♪ Underwear ♪ 1628 01:27:37,342 --> 01:27:39,928 - What is it called? What is it? - Pants. Underpants. 1629 01:27:39,928 --> 01:27:41,263 [Martin] Underpants. 1630 01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:44,224 How does it work? So, they film a lot on you, right? 1631 01:27:44,224 --> 01:27:47,394 - Right. - And then they cut out the parts 1632 01:27:47,394 --> 01:27:51,523 where you're being dull and kind of self-absorbed. 1633 01:27:51,523 --> 01:27:52,983 What are-- What are you going for? 1634 01:27:52,983 --> 01:27:54,776 Well, I'm just saying, this is gonna be a very brief... 1635 01:27:54,776 --> 01:27:56,820 - Yeah. - It's gonna be, like, 12 minutes. 1636 01:27:56,820 --> 01:28:00,282 No. It comes out best after I die. That's what they're hoping for. 1637 01:28:00,282 --> 01:28:05,579 I think you're gonna live... for a long, long, long, long time. 1638 01:28:05,579 --> 01:28:07,831 I don't think the last couple of years will be pretty. 1639 01:28:08,915 --> 01:28:11,334 I think that there will be a lot of staring off... 1640 01:28:11,334 --> 01:28:13,420 - Yeah. - ...and I'll be brushing your hair. 1641 01:28:13,420 --> 01:28:15,422 Your hair will have grown very long. 1642 01:28:15,422 --> 01:28:18,258 And you'll be going, "Oh, what's this plug?" 1643 01:28:18,258 --> 01:28:20,176 [laughing] 1644 01:28:24,222 --> 01:28:27,601 [Steve] I don't get nervous, I get kind of antsy. 1645 01:28:27,601 --> 01:28:28,852 [door opens] 1646 01:28:28,852 --> 01:28:32,230 Once Marty and I were riding-- driving to a... 1647 01:28:32,230 --> 01:28:34,816 you know, an award show or something together. 1648 01:28:34,816 --> 01:28:38,278 And I said, "I could stop." And he said, "Why?" 1649 01:28:38,278 --> 01:28:40,864 "I just don't want to feel nervous anymore." 1650 01:28:40,864 --> 01:28:41,990 [chuckling] You know? 1651 01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:45,535 [Steve] And it's not that-- it's not that we're nervous, it's excited. 1652 01:28:45,535 --> 01:28:48,788 You know? But there is a... adrenaline factor. 1653 01:28:49,789 --> 01:28:51,416 Gee, this is awfully intimate. 1654 01:28:53,668 --> 01:28:55,462 All right. [clears throat] 1655 01:28:57,255 --> 01:28:59,883 [faint banjo playing] 1656 01:29:03,762 --> 01:29:05,889 [crowd murmuring] 1657 01:29:05,889 --> 01:29:08,016 [emcee] Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, 1658 01:29:08,016 --> 01:29:11,186 put your hands together for Steve Martin. 1659 01:29:11,186 --> 01:29:12,145 [audience cheering] 1660 01:29:12,145 --> 01:29:14,522 [Steve] Yeah! Thank you. 1661 01:29:14,522 --> 01:29:17,108 [cheering intensifies] 1662 01:29:24,032 --> 01:29:27,994 And now, ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to introduce a man I think of 1663 01:29:27,994 --> 01:29:30,789 as one of the great overactors of all time. 1664 01:29:30,789 --> 01:29:32,457 [laughter] 1665 01:29:32,457 --> 01:29:34,793 One of the hardest working men in show business 1666 01:29:34,793 --> 01:29:37,796 because it just doesn't come natural to him. 1667 01:29:38,797 --> 01:29:42,968 A man who has appeared in countless of two hit movies. 1668 01:29:42,968 --> 01:29:45,011 - [clears throat] - [laughter] 1669 01:29:45,011 --> 01:29:47,889 And the only Canadian dumb enough to turn down Schitt's Creek. 1670 01:29:47,889 --> 01:29:50,225 Here he is, Martin Short. 1671 01:29:50,225 --> 01:29:51,893 [audience cheering] 1672 01:29:57,899 --> 01:29:59,818 - Oh, my God. It's so-- - Oh, I love this, I'm the best! 1673 01:30:00,318 --> 01:30:02,362 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen! 1674 01:30:02,779 --> 01:30:06,533 Marty and I call this show, "If we'd saved, we wouldn't be here." 1675 01:30:06,533 --> 01:30:08,326 - That's right. - [laughter] 1676 01:30:09,536 --> 01:30:12,122 - And may I say to you, young Steven... - Sure. 1677 01:30:12,122 --> 01:30:14,916 You look fantastic. 1678 01:30:14,916 --> 01:30:17,627 - Thank you. - You do, you really do. 1679 01:30:17,627 --> 01:30:21,006 And I guess that's the benefit of looking 70 since you were 30. 1680 01:30:21,006 --> 01:30:23,049 [laughter] 1681 01:30:23,049 --> 01:30:26,052 And it is such an honor for me to be standing next to a man 1682 01:30:26,052 --> 01:30:29,097 who's a novelist, a playwright, a musician, 1683 01:30:29,097 --> 01:30:32,475 a composer, and a legendary comedian. 1684 01:30:32,475 --> 01:30:34,477 - And let me say... - [crowd cheering] 1685 01:30:34,477 --> 01:30:38,690 Let me say what an honor it is for me to be standing next to the man 1686 01:30:38,690 --> 01:30:41,151 who is standing next to that man. 1687 01:30:41,151 --> 01:30:43,445 [laughter] 1688 01:30:43,445 --> 01:30:46,364 [cheering, laughter fade] 1689 01:30:50,827 --> 01:30:52,871 That was amazing because it was... 1690 01:30:52,871 --> 01:30:56,041 We had more material and it was a shorter show than last night. 1691 01:30:56,041 --> 01:30:59,211 It was a shorter show than last night, right, like, ten minutes? 1692 01:30:59,211 --> 01:31:00,921 Last night was shorter than tonight. 1693 01:31:00,921 --> 01:31:05,133 [Anne] Moments of self-congratulation are few and far between. [laughs] 1694 01:31:06,426 --> 01:31:08,762 When he gets off the stage, when he's had a stage show, 1695 01:31:08,762 --> 01:31:10,597 there's, you know, a whole assessment. 1696 01:31:10,597 --> 01:31:14,267 And he'll say, "Okay, we put this new joke in at this moment, 1697 01:31:14,267 --> 01:31:16,019 - and audience was with them. - [faint conversation] 1698 01:31:16,019 --> 01:31:18,271 That was the one where they really nailed it." 1699 01:31:18,271 --> 01:31:20,148 First show, we kind of got it. 1700 01:31:20,148 --> 01:31:22,817 - [Martin] Yeah. - Second show, we got it. 1701 01:31:22,817 --> 01:31:25,654 - Yeah. - Third show, we kind of got it. 1702 01:31:25,654 --> 01:31:26,947 [Martin] Mm-hm. 1703 01:31:26,947 --> 01:31:28,531 I one hundred percent agree. 1704 01:31:28,531 --> 01:31:31,701 First of all, it's second night blues. You can't be perfect every night. 1705 01:31:32,452 --> 01:31:36,998 Having that piece of work that you're just trying to get right keeps you alive. 1706 01:31:36,998 --> 01:31:41,795 And I think the secret to not aging is just the feeling of being useful. 1707 01:31:42,420 --> 01:31:44,214 [Steve] By the way, I really enjoyed you on stage tonight. 1708 01:31:44,214 --> 01:31:45,465 - [Martin] Oh, thank you. - You're welcome. 1709 01:31:45,465 --> 01:31:48,885 Hey, you know what I'd love to do? Work with you some day. 1710 01:31:48,885 --> 01:31:50,387 [Morgan] You guys are flirting. 1711 01:31:57,060 --> 01:32:00,355 [Steve] I took this 30-year break from stand-up. 1712 01:32:00,981 --> 01:32:04,484 And now I'm back in it, but I'm back as a grown-up, 1713 01:32:04,484 --> 01:32:06,361 so it's, like, the grown-up version. 1714 01:32:06,361 --> 01:32:08,905 It's, like, more straightforward, actually. 1715 01:32:12,325 --> 01:32:14,160 [Gopnik] All right, I have a deep question for you. 1716 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,037 So, I turned 65 last week, 1717 01:32:16,037 --> 01:32:18,915 if you can imagine, and the kids, of course, gave me my Medicare card. 1718 01:32:18,915 --> 01:32:21,459 {\an8}Which I now have to have and all of that too. 1719 01:32:21,459 --> 01:32:23,879 It was disconcerting because it was 1720 01:32:23,879 --> 01:32:25,755 as though you were living your life on two tracks, right? 1721 01:32:25,755 --> 01:32:28,884 You're actual experience of the world, which is totally unaltered, 1722 01:32:28,884 --> 01:32:33,096 and your knowledge of the passage of time, which has suddenly made you, 1723 01:32:33,096 --> 01:32:36,600 mysteriously, older than you sort of ever expected to be. 1724 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,727 [Steve] So, on one hand, it's exactly what you said, 1725 01:32:38,727 --> 01:32:40,145 because you're living one way, 1726 01:32:40,145 --> 01:32:43,648 but there is this number in your head that has meaning, 1727 01:32:43,648 --> 01:32:46,026 - and it has had meaning your whole life. - Right. 1728 01:32:46,026 --> 01:32:47,485 Means you're old. 1729 01:32:47,485 --> 01:32:50,155 But also, there's the thing where you go, 1730 01:32:50,906 --> 01:32:54,659 "I might only live for another... 25 years." 1731 01:32:54,659 --> 01:32:57,078 [both laughing] 1732 01:32:57,078 --> 01:32:58,747 Do you feel any differently inside than you did, 1733 01:32:58,747 --> 01:33:03,501 say when you were 40 or 50, or at any other point? 1734 01:33:03,501 --> 01:33:05,420 At 40, I thought about death. 1735 01:33:06,713 --> 01:33:07,839 Neurotically. 1736 01:33:08,381 --> 01:33:10,926 A false sense of doom. 1737 01:33:10,926 --> 01:33:12,761 And now I have a real sense of doom. 1738 01:33:12,761 --> 01:33:14,888 But, you know, the false and the real are... 1739 01:33:14,888 --> 01:33:18,225 Actually, the real sense of doom is much more tolerable 1740 01:33:18,225 --> 01:33:19,768 than the false sense of doom. 1741 01:33:19,768 --> 01:33:20,810 So, you're... 1742 01:33:20,810 --> 01:33:22,687 [faint chatter nearby] 1743 01:33:22,687 --> 01:33:23,605 [Gopnik] Oh, hello there. 1744 01:33:23,605 --> 01:33:25,523 [Anne] Sorry. Can we say a quick hi and bye? 1745 01:33:25,523 --> 01:33:27,651 - Hey, come here. - [Anne] Yeah. Sorry, sorry, we're... 1746 01:33:27,651 --> 01:33:29,486 - Are you going somewhere? - [Gopnik] That's fine. 1747 01:33:29,486 --> 01:33:32,322 - [Gopnik] Hey there. Hello there. - [Steve] Oh, you are? 1748 01:33:32,322 --> 01:33:34,199 - [Gopnik] How are you? - [Anne] Good, good. 1749 01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:36,034 I'm sorry that we-- Sorry to interrupt. 1750 01:33:36,034 --> 01:33:37,994 - [Gopnik] Don't be silly, we could use it. - Can you remind me of... 1751 01:33:37,994 --> 01:33:39,579 [Anne] It wasn't an unimportant goodbye. 1752 01:33:39,579 --> 01:33:41,748 Can you remind me of your name again, please? 1753 01:33:42,374 --> 01:33:44,125 Okay. Can I see your face? 1754 01:33:44,751 --> 01:33:46,461 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. 1755 01:33:46,962 --> 01:33:48,547 [clearing throat] 1756 01:33:51,675 --> 01:33:53,093 Tell me what else is on your mind. 1757 01:33:54,886 --> 01:33:55,845 [Steve] Hmm. 1758 01:34:00,141 --> 01:34:03,728 [Steve] Captain Upton's House was painted, it was 1928. 1759 01:34:03,728 --> 01:34:08,608 This is a painting by Edward Hopper that I was able to buy about 30 years ago. 1760 01:34:10,402 --> 01:34:13,947 The first impression of it is that it's a lonely house on a hillside, 1761 01:34:13,947 --> 01:34:16,783 and it represents isolated loneliness. 1762 01:34:17,951 --> 01:34:22,163 This house is absent of life. 1763 01:34:24,124 --> 01:34:27,794 But a strange thing about this... 1764 01:34:29,504 --> 01:34:32,132 Through the years, I've really been able to look at it, 1765 01:34:32,132 --> 01:34:34,885 and my opinion about it has changed. 1766 01:34:36,094 --> 01:34:40,432 The more I looked at, I thought this house is very alive. 1767 01:34:41,224 --> 01:34:44,019 These windows are open and there's a breeze going through 1768 01:34:44,019 --> 01:34:46,062 and the curtains are blowing. 1769 01:34:46,062 --> 01:34:50,859 And here you get a sun porch, and you can see right through the windows 1770 01:34:50,859 --> 01:34:54,654 and you can almost feel the rattan furniture, you know, in there. 1771 01:34:54,654 --> 01:34:58,950 So, to me, this is a very lively painting. 1772 01:34:59,784 --> 01:35:01,828 Something's going on in there and it feels joyful. 1773 01:35:01,828 --> 01:35:04,915 It doesn't feel troubled at all. 1774 01:35:04,915 --> 01:35:06,416 People are in that house. 1775 01:35:10,962 --> 01:35:12,339 [Gopnik] Having kids, for all of us, 1776 01:35:12,339 --> 01:35:15,217 I think is the biggest door you ever walk through in life. 1777 01:35:19,179 --> 01:35:23,308 You know, you go from being a ship out on the seas of the world, 1778 01:35:23,308 --> 01:35:26,394 to suddenly being a harbor and a port for someone else. 1779 01:35:28,772 --> 01:35:30,607 You sort of know your role. 1780 01:35:35,946 --> 01:35:38,907 [Steve] It's just, uh... home. 1781 01:35:38,907 --> 01:35:40,533 [laughs] 1782 01:35:43,995 --> 01:35:46,665 [banjo playing plaintive tune] 1783 01:35:49,084 --> 01:35:51,753 [up-tempo music playing]