1 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:16,432 The family that Natalia has been staying with? 2 00:00:16,433 --> 00:00:18,059 They wanna be her legal guardians now. 3 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:19,143 They can make her a kid again. 4 00:00:19,144 --> 00:00:21,896 Then they can say we abandoned a child. 5 00:00:21,897 --> 00:00:24,190 When you were re-aged, you didn't have due process. 6 00:00:24,191 --> 00:00:25,942 We should be able to get the ruling thrown out. 7 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:27,443 - You need to get down there. - Now? 8 00:00:27,444 --> 00:00:29,487 What? I thought we were gonna have a date night. 9 00:00:29,488 --> 00:00:31,281 Until you fix this, the shop is closed. 10 00:00:32,324 --> 00:00:34,575 Previously, on Good American Family... 11 00:00:34,576 --> 00:00:37,411 What evidence did you guys use to change her age? 12 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:39,413 We've got some doctor letters. 13 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:40,873 We've got immigration papers. 14 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,709 Oh, I'm sorry, man. Scrolled too far. 15 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:45,253 - Oh. - Looks like you're out of the dog house. 16 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:47,129 I don't think these are f-- are for me. 17 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:50,132 - All rise! - We intend to stay on 18 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:52,176 as Natalia's legal guardians. 19 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:54,095 We can still appeal. We'll find a way. 20 00:00:54,096 --> 00:00:56,055 Absolutely not. No appeal! 21 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:57,933 - But she didn't even get to speak. - I'm her mother. I said no! 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,726 Who were those pictures for? 'Cause I don't think they were for me. 23 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:02,186 You sound like a crazy person. 24 00:01:02,187 --> 00:01:04,022 Oh, my God! I can't-- 25 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:06,148 I can't do this anymore! 26 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:07,775 Okay, so what's your plan? 27 00:01:07,776 --> 00:01:10,444 You're gonna leave and do what? You can barely get out of bed! 28 00:01:10,445 --> 00:01:13,824 If that's how you feel then... why are you even with me? 29 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:15,741 If you've got something on your ex 30 00:01:15,742 --> 00:01:17,910 that can really help with your custody troubles... 31 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,413 So, you folks knew she was a kid? 32 00:01:20,414 --> 00:01:22,457 Yes, we knew she was a kid. 33 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,960 He gets it. He's gonna help me get the boys back. 34 00:01:25,961 --> 00:01:28,546 If you told the detective that you knew Natalia was a kid, 35 00:01:28,547 --> 00:01:30,464 then you're probably guilty too. 36 00:01:30,465 --> 00:01:33,759 If these charges hold, we could be gone for 75 years. 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,136 We have a natural advantage 38 00:01:35,137 --> 00:01:37,930 because the public will look at her and they will see 39 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:39,181 a fascination. 40 00:01:39,182 --> 00:01:41,183 But we need to approach this as a united front. 41 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:43,645 Folks just love a good American family. 42 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:41,952 There's just one question on everybody's mind. 43 00:02:41,953 --> 00:02:44,622 {\an8}Were you a 22-year-old scam artist... 44 00:02:44,623 --> 00:02:47,793 {\an8}...or an 8-year-old child left for dead? 45 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:52,297 {\an8}- Is that a funny question? - Well, no. 46 00:02:52,964 --> 00:02:56,258 {\an8}It's like if somebody decided to start telling people 47 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:59,136 {\an8}that your name's not Dr. Phil, it's Dr. Will. 48 00:02:59,137 --> 00:03:02,181 {\an8}And then, those people tell people, 49 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,475 {\an8}and no matter how hard you try now, 50 00:03:04,476 --> 00:03:07,311 {\an8}everybody's like, "Hey, it's Dr. Will!" 51 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:10,231 {\an8}- So, you're saying...? - I was eight. 52 00:03:10,232 --> 00:03:12,108 {\an8}I knew I was eight, 53 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:14,360 {\an8}just like how you know you're Dr. Phil. 54 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:17,363 {\an8}But you told people you were 22. 55 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:19,574 {\an8}'Cause Kristine trained me to lie... 56 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:24,704 {\an8}so people wouldn't figure out that I was a kid living on my own. 57 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:28,165 {\an8}But what about these accusations the Barnetts keep making, 58 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:30,000 {\an8}the horror movie stuff? 59 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:33,462 {\an8}You at the foot of their bed with a knife in your hand? 60 00:03:33,463 --> 00:03:35,381 {\an8}Of course, I didn't do any of that! 61 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:37,341 {\an8}Poisoning Kristine's coffee? 62 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:40,886 {\an8}I was cleaning the kitchen, like she told me to. 63 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:43,806 {\an8}I have my spray bottle in my hand next to her coffee, 64 00:03:43,807 --> 00:03:45,641 {\an8}she starts screaming. 65 00:03:45,642 --> 00:03:50,438 {\an8}Kristine Barnett also claims you pushed her into an electric fence. 66 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:52,189 {\an8}The woman tripped. 67 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:55,651 {\an8}Then all of a sudden, she starts screaming I pushed her. 68 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:59,905 {\an8}And our lawyer, you know, talked to the farm who owns that fence. 69 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,241 {\an8}It wasn't even on. 70 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:05,287 {\an8}So, then, they made it all up. 71 00:04:06,288 --> 00:04:07,288 {\an8}Why? 72 00:04:07,289 --> 00:04:10,249 {\an8}Listen, when Natalia first got with us, 73 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:13,752 {\an8}there were some moments where she would act out, 74 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:16,922 {\an8}and I'd feel like, "How am I gonna deal with this?" 75 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:19,342 {\an8}Because this girl's been broken. 76 00:04:21,761 --> 00:04:24,306 {\an8}You are not a burden to me, you are a light. 77 00:04:25,849 --> 00:04:30,644 {\an8}But I think Kristine adopted Natalia as a project, 78 00:04:30,645 --> 00:04:33,606 {\an8}another disabled kid to save. 79 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:36,734 {\an8}And when things got rough and she couldn't be the role model mom 80 00:04:36,735 --> 00:04:41,697 {\an8}that she thought she was, she had to find a way to get rid of her. 81 00:04:41,698 --> 00:04:45,034 {\an8}So, now, you're taking them to court. 82 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:47,578 {\an8}What do you hope to get out of that? 83 00:04:47,579 --> 00:04:51,875 {\an8}It used to be getting back to my real age... 84 00:04:53,919 --> 00:04:57,046 {\an8}and getting legally adopted by my parents here. 85 00:04:57,047 --> 00:04:59,257 {\an8}And yeah, of course, I still want that part. 86 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:03,512 {\an8}But the other part? Getting to be a kid again? 87 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:06,597 {\an8}That's all gone now. 88 00:05:06,598 --> 00:05:09,725 {\an8}I'm 16, it's too late. 89 00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:13,104 {\an8}So then, what do you want now? 90 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,148 {\an8}I want justice. 91 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:18,317 {\an8}I want the Barnetts to do their time. 92 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,402 {\an8}Oh, for Pete's sake, turn it off. 93 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:23,614 I mean, look at how angry she is. It's terrifying. 94 00:05:23,615 --> 00:05:26,116 Just looking at her makes my blood pressure go up. 95 00:05:26,117 --> 00:05:27,618 It's not good for me. 96 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:29,203 That's so weird, you know? 97 00:05:29,204 --> 00:05:32,665 'Cause I was just thinking this is exactly like a spa day. 98 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:36,210 Is this why you brought me here? To be tortured and taunted? 99 00:05:36,211 --> 00:05:38,754 Okay, uh, Terrance, could you please tell my client 100 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:40,214 what you told me on the phone? 101 00:05:40,215 --> 00:05:42,716 I know that this is hard to watch, 102 00:05:42,717 --> 00:05:45,219 but in the three years since Natalia gave that interview, 103 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:46,846 her story's only gotten more damning. 104 00:05:46,847 --> 00:05:49,765 Now, my team's been culling her depositions, 105 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:50,933 some of her vlogs. 106 00:05:50,934 --> 00:05:53,686 She, uh, posted this last week. 107 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:56,272 [on video] Hey, y'all, me and my family have started a GoFundMe 108 00:05:56,273 --> 00:05:57,606 to pay for my surgeries. 109 00:05:57,607 --> 00:06:00,401 I hate being out here begging, 110 00:06:00,402 --> 00:06:04,196 but my doctors say I wouldn't have so much pain 111 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:07,658 if the Barnetts would have taken care of me when I was a kid, so... 112 00:06:07,659 --> 00:06:09,702 Altogether, they give a pretty good peek 113 00:06:09,703 --> 00:06:12,538 into what the state's gonna lay out in Mike's trial next week, 114 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:13,998 and yours after that, 115 00:06:13,999 --> 00:06:16,083 that you all were not harmed by Natalia, 116 00:06:16,084 --> 00:06:18,252 but that she was harmed by you. Grievously. 117 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:21,005 - It's hogwash. - Can you please let him talk? 118 00:06:21,006 --> 00:06:24,717 Despite your differences, you two have been killing it in the press 119 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:26,594 and in the court of public opinion. 120 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:28,679 But now, we have to face the court of law. 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,015 And as good as my team is, we've had some difficulty 122 00:06:31,016 --> 00:06:33,018 finding rock-solid witnesses. 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,228 Now, if things go well for Mike, 124 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:38,857 chances are the charges against you will get dropped too. 125 00:06:39,858 --> 00:06:43,485 So, we have been hoping that you would have some ideas 126 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:45,988 of people who could corroborate your story. 127 00:06:45,989 --> 00:06:49,033 - Our story. - You're the one who saw everything. 128 00:06:49,034 --> 00:06:52,119 Excuse me, pretty sure Mike's the reason we're in this mess. 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,787 Is he? 130 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:57,416 I'm not talking with her here. 131 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:00,628 Okay, Jen, do you mind giving us the room for a few minutes? 132 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:01,962 I do, actually, yeah. 133 00:07:01,963 --> 00:07:06,551 Michael, Jen, with all due respect, just for a little bit. 134 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:11,431 We want Kristine to feel comfortable. 135 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:20,231 Look, I-I-I think we need her help, okay? 136 00:07:24,819 --> 00:07:27,780 Oh my God. Yeah, fine. I brought a book. 137 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:29,532 Okay, thank you. 138 00:07:32,535 --> 00:07:33,828 Mm. 139 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:50,344 My mom keeps saying I'm rabbit-holing and I gotta chill. 140 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:54,223 But of course, I'm obsessing. This is my life. 141 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:57,309 No one's saying not to focus on it, baby. I'm just saying, you gotta eat, 142 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:58,728 - you gotta pee-- - Will you stop? 143 00:07:59,729 --> 00:08:01,397 The other day, I nearly jumped outta my skin 144 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:04,942 'cause I heard Kristine Barnett's voice coming from the john. 145 00:08:04,943 --> 00:08:07,778 Turns out it was just Natalia Facebook-stalking her from the toilet. 146 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:08,904 I'm not stalking her. 147 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:11,365 I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear anything about stalking, 148 00:08:11,366 --> 00:08:14,034 and draw your attention instead to the case we're building. 149 00:08:14,035 --> 00:08:16,370 Now, the case we're building rests on two things. 150 00:08:16,371 --> 00:08:19,123 One, we have to discredit Natalia. 151 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:21,583 Paint her as unreliable, a sociopath. 152 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:25,295 And two, we need to show that you all were a nice couple 153 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:28,465 who tried to support your capable adult dependent 154 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:29,717 as best you could. 155 00:08:29,718 --> 00:08:31,677 So, let's start with the age. 156 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:32,971 Who else can speak to that? 157 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:35,973 Did you look into First Path? 158 00:08:35,974 --> 00:08:39,226 They were changing birth dates, fudging documents. 159 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:41,812 - There was a whole class action lawsuit. - Yep, yep. 160 00:08:41,813 --> 00:08:45,315 That suit absolutely goes towards, uh, discrediting Natalia's age, 161 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:46,900 but it doesn't confirm it. 162 00:08:46,901 --> 00:08:48,652 So, who else? 163 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:52,072 Doctors, uh, outside of Lawrence? 164 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:56,578 I just cannot believe I'm here again. 165 00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:58,788 This is literal hell! 166 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:04,126 Okay. Well, um... maybe we could think about people 167 00:09:04,127 --> 00:09:07,796 who could speak to her behavior, uh, the violence. 168 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:09,716 - What about somebody from the school? - Oh. 169 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:13,177 So, Dr. Wachter, 170 00:09:13,178 --> 00:09:14,511 one thing the defense will argue 171 00:09:14,512 --> 00:09:18,057 is that Natalia was expelled for behavioral issues. 172 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:20,225 Yeah, I heard that Mrs. Barnett was saying 173 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:24,646 that she had pulled Natalia out of school because she was a danger to other kids, 174 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:27,566 she was bullying them, ramming them with her walker. 175 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:30,110 - But that's baloney. - That's a dead-end. 176 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:31,779 He blacklisted me 'cause I called out 177 00:09:31,780 --> 00:09:33,989 the way they treated kids with disabilities. 178 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:36,951 {\an8}Natalia was the sweetest kid. Polite, funny. 179 00:09:37,452 --> 00:09:40,245 {\an8}Uh, honestly, it was the mom who made me nervous. 180 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:43,916 {\an8}I offered accessibility training, and they laughed in my face. 181 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:45,167 They were hostile. 182 00:09:45,168 --> 00:09:47,920 {\an8}She was really strict with Natalia, and mean. 183 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:50,005 {\an8}But if you raised that with her, she would flip 184 00:09:50,006 --> 00:09:54,844 {\an8}and say what an advocate she was for special kids. 185 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:57,554 Okay, what about the mom 186 00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:00,390 from New Jersey, right? She had the same issues that we had. 187 00:10:00,391 --> 00:10:02,226 She showed up at my door 188 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:03,393 with this theory 189 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:08,023 {\an8}that Natalia was a con artist stealing money for her medical care. 190 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:09,983 {\an8} She kept saying 191 00:10:09,984 --> 00:10:13,195 {\an8}that it was exactly like that movie Orphan. 192 00:10:13,196 --> 00:10:16,073 {\an8}And did that track at all for you? 193 00:10:16,074 --> 00:10:19,368 {\an8}What, that she was a con artist? No. 194 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:21,161 {\an8}The last time I saw her, she was seven. 195 00:10:21,162 --> 00:10:23,288 {\an8}No way. What's she gonna do? 196 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:26,083 Get up there and say, "Yeah, I knew she was an adult, 197 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:28,502 so I foisted her on another family"? 198 00:10:28,503 --> 00:10:30,087 She'll just lie. 199 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:33,048 {\an8} So, why did you, then, give her up? 200 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:36,219 {\an8}Her needs were more than we were prepared for. 201 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,680 {\an8}We thought that we were doing the right thing, 202 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:43,184 {\an8}giving her to a family that was better equipped to care for her. 203 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:49,648 {\an8}I'll never forgive myself for that. 204 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,984 {\an8}I don't know, she was totally honest with you, right? 205 00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:54,153 About-- about her son's birthday, 206 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:56,530 and-- and how Natalia stole money from them, right? 207 00:10:56,531 --> 00:10:58,115 That's different, sweetie. 208 00:10:58,116 --> 00:11:01,160 Me on the street versus in court? 209 00:11:01,161 --> 00:11:04,079 She'll never tell the truth. She has blood on her hands. 210 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,499 Okay, um, what about the psychiatric hospital? 211 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,460 {\an8}I'm a pediatric nurse at Larue Psychiatric Hospital. 212 00:11:10,461 --> 00:11:13,882 {\an8}Natalia was on my rotation when they changed her age. 213 00:11:15,258 --> 00:11:17,885 {\an8}I was worried about what might happen to a child 214 00:11:17,886 --> 00:11:20,596 {\an8}in the adult wing of a psychiatric facility. 215 00:11:20,597 --> 00:11:23,766 {\an8}But it was court-ordered. I didn't have a choice. 216 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:27,060 Natalia's very good at making people feel sorry for her, 217 00:11:27,061 --> 00:11:29,563 especially vulnerable people. 218 00:11:29,564 --> 00:11:31,064 It's what she did to Mike. 219 00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:34,818 That's part of sociopathy: manipulation. 220 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:38,113 [on video] I have no idea where this talk of sociopathy came from. 221 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:42,159 {\an8}Natalia expressed joy, curiosity, empathy. 222 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,455 {\an8}I mean, despite the mother's insistence, there was no diagnosis. 223 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:49,124 Is there no one who can talk on our behalf? 224 00:11:49,125 --> 00:11:52,169 Don't be ridiculous. There's plenty of people. 225 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:53,462 What about the neighbors? 226 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:57,049 I practically had to beg that woman not to call the cops on her. 227 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:59,719 {\an8}She was always asking for food or to use my phone. 228 00:12:00,803 --> 00:12:02,679 {\an8}She was dirty. 229 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:07,101 {\an8}I thought she was peculiar, but now knowing, it all adds up. 230 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:13,357 {\an8}I was so peeved about what she did to my grandson, 231 00:12:13,358 --> 00:12:16,778 {\an8}but turns out she was even younger than he was. 232 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:19,864 So, that's it then. 233 00:12:21,991 --> 00:12:23,076 I'm toast. 234 00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:27,829 I wish she had held me up against that fence until I fried. 235 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:30,624 - Oh, my God... - This is so much worse! 236 00:12:32,627 --> 00:12:34,336 I hope Natalia knows, 237 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:38,382 {\an8}if I'd known what was really going on, I'd have done something. 238 00:12:38,383 --> 00:12:41,343 {\an8}I-- I hope this helps get her 239 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:44,097 the justice she deserves. 240 00:12:45,223 --> 00:12:46,223 Wow. 241 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:47,891 Now, is this gonna hurt us, 242 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:50,060 since Tally first told that gal she was 22? 243 00:12:50,061 --> 00:12:52,062 Because Kristine told me to. 244 00:12:52,063 --> 00:12:53,939 I understand that, baby. 245 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,275 I'm asking if the judge will understand it. 246 00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:59,653 We'll have psychologists speak to the coercion Natalia faced, 247 00:12:59,654 --> 00:13:01,196 the Stockholm syndrome. 248 00:13:01,197 --> 00:13:04,533 You're feeling confident then? Nothing keeping you up at night? 249 00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:06,368 Will you stop? She said she feels good. 250 00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:08,120 Well, no, no, no. I didn't say that. 251 00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:09,955 Optimism gives me indigestion. 252 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,916 I still wish we had a clear story for the jury 253 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:17,504 to explain why a nice-seeming couple would do something so god-awful. 254 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:20,382 We've been scouring their texts to see if they ever talk about you, 255 00:13:20,383 --> 00:13:21,843 but it's almost nothing. 256 00:13:24,012 --> 00:13:26,763 Wait, did you check her Facebook? 257 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:27,889 Why? 258 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,768 Kristine lives on Facebook. 259 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:34,188 I bet a thousand bucks they use Messenger. 260 00:13:35,273 --> 00:13:36,316 Gabe? 261 00:13:37,358 --> 00:13:39,818 Can we subpoena the Barnetts' Facebook messages? 262 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,905 - Isn't the trial in two days? - Yes, and? 263 00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:54,833 Hey, sorry you had to wait. 264 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:58,587 Driving the final nail in my coffin took longer than expected. 265 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:00,881 Oh, really? So, the Kristine Barnett 266 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:02,632 didn't swoop in and save the day? 267 00:14:02,633 --> 00:14:05,177 Oh God, it was brutal. 268 00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:08,972 It's like being tortured, beaten to a pulp. 269 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:10,515 Trials are pugilism. 270 00:14:10,516 --> 00:14:12,393 You gotta punch, get punched. 271 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:19,232 Which is why I would love to discuss a potential nuclear option. 272 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:22,320 A-- a Hail Mary, should we need it. 273 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:24,989 Listening. 274 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:27,783 Should this not go our way, 275 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:30,702 my guess is that they will offer us immunity 276 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:32,538 to testify against Kristine. 277 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:38,044 I mean, the state wants Mike, but they want her more. 278 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:41,714 Really? 279 00:14:47,095 --> 00:14:49,305 Do you think that's something you could do? 280 00:14:53,142 --> 00:14:55,769 Yes, of course that's something he can do. 281 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:58,355 She is the mother of my children. 282 00:14:58,356 --> 00:15:00,399 Who she never lets you see! 283 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:03,777 Mike, this is a no-brainer. 284 00:15:03,778 --> 00:15:06,197 This is a literal get-out-of-jail-free card. 285 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:11,952 All I've ever wanted to do is help as many kids as humanly possible. 286 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:14,371 So, the one silver lining of the pandemic 287 00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:15,831 was realizing... 288 00:15:15,832 --> 00:15:17,415 ...I'm not a slave to geography, 289 00:15:17,416 --> 00:15:21,628 and I can take my patented Spark Method international, 290 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:25,257 and bring it and sell it to organizations like yours. 291 00:15:28,386 --> 00:15:29,928 Can you hear me? 292 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:32,931 Sorry, no, you're frozen. 293 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,141 Okay, um... 294 00:15:34,142 --> 00:15:36,601 Um, is this better? 295 00:15:36,602 --> 00:15:40,355 I'm trying to say, we were very interested in your program, 296 00:15:40,356 --> 00:15:43,900 but my board was doing their homework on you, 297 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:47,029 and something comes up about child neglect charges? 298 00:15:48,239 --> 00:15:49,573 - Um... - Oh, wow, we made it 299 00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:51,950 all the way to Slovenia, huh? 300 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:54,536 Hi. Hi, sorry, um... 301 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:57,373 Just so you know, Kristine was the real victim. 302 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:00,125 This is my friend, Val. 303 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:03,587 I've been staying with her during this very difficult time. 304 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:04,921 Hi, hi. 305 00:16:04,922 --> 00:16:07,382 You know, she was targeted by a con artist 306 00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:09,259 pretending to be a child, 307 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:13,013 and this person's just dragging her and her family's name through the mud. 308 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:14,931 A res? That's unbelievable. 309 00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:17,350 Yeah, well, what makes it even more tragic 310 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:19,102 is Kristine is the real deal. 311 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,021 My daughter Shawn? 312 00:16:21,022 --> 00:16:23,064 My God, what we went through when we adopted her, 313 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:25,984 and now, she's going to be a freshman at Penn 314 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:27,444 because of Kristine. 315 00:16:27,445 --> 00:16:29,196 She completely changed our lives. 316 00:16:29,197 --> 00:16:31,823 Wow, that's very powerful. 317 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:36,036 I would be happy to, you know, send a letter to your board, 318 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:37,621 or whatever you might need. 319 00:16:37,622 --> 00:16:39,664 Oh yeah, yes. Yes, wonderful. 320 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,501 - Thank you, speak soon. - I'm looking forward to it. 321 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:45,004 God bless the children. 322 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,506 You are a literal godsend. 323 00:16:48,507 --> 00:16:51,134 Well, gotta do something 324 00:16:51,135 --> 00:16:53,428 to help you pay me back for all those fancy lawyers, right? 325 00:16:55,765 --> 00:16:56,932 I'm kidding, I'm kidding. 326 00:16:56,933 --> 00:17:00,227 You know I am happy to help however I can, truly. 327 00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:03,939 You know, the lawyers say if Mike gets off, 328 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:05,441 they'll drop my charges too. 329 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,276 - That's great! - But the witnesses 330 00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:13,032 his team is bringing in are just... terrible. 331 00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:17,285 - Would you ever be willing? - Yeah. 332 00:17:17,286 --> 00:17:18,995 No, of-- [scoffs] of course. 333 00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:22,499 I mean, you know I'm happy to sing your praises whenever I can! 334 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:25,794 Mainly, it would be talking about Natalia and what you saw, 335 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:29,256 how violent she was and manipulative, 336 00:17:29,257 --> 00:17:32,050 and how she was a threat to me and my family. 337 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:34,344 Right. 338 00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:37,056 Sorry, I'm just-- I'm just trying to think. 339 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:43,186 I don't know that I actually saw saw any of the incidents. 340 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:45,188 You just told Irena all about it. 341 00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,898 Well, sure. 342 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:49,234 But I mean, that's all stuff that you told me. 343 00:17:49,235 --> 00:17:52,697 I-- I can't go into court and say that I saw things I didn't see, right? 344 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:55,699 What do they always say on those shows? 345 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,994 Uh, "Objection! Hearsay." 346 00:18:00,371 --> 00:18:01,830 Right. No, I wouldn't want you 347 00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:03,916 to do anything you're not comfortable with. 348 00:18:09,297 --> 00:18:12,048 We got the Facebook messages, and holy shit, 349 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:13,718 hold onto your butts. 350 00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:19,639 These messages are the most incriminating evidence 351 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,558 I've seen in my entire career. 352 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:26,438 For starters, you both use the M-word repeatedly 353 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:29,233 - when referring to Natalia. - What's the M-word? 354 00:18:32,862 --> 00:18:35,363 No matter how many times we say that you cared for Natalia, 355 00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:37,741 using an epithet against little people proves bias, 356 00:18:37,742 --> 00:18:39,909 - and that indicates intent. - That's not fair! 357 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:41,871 Uh, I didn't know it was a bad word. Kris, did you? 358 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,208 These words go in and out of fashion all the time. 359 00:18:47,209 --> 00:18:49,711 Oh-- Well, okay, Michael, 360 00:18:49,712 --> 00:18:52,922 you also referred to her as "that thing," 361 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:56,384 as in, "That thing totally blew people for McDonald's." 362 00:18:56,385 --> 00:18:59,889 And Kristine, you called her "a smoked-out, hungover hooker." 363 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:02,724 That doesn't sound like me. 364 00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:11,149 Who hasn't said ugly things about a person who was cruel to them? 365 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,609 She was torturing us. 366 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,569 Honestly, it doesn't matter what you said. 367 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,237 It's that you didn't tell us about this crap, 368 00:19:16,238 --> 00:19:18,031 and the trial starts tomorrow. 369 00:19:18,032 --> 00:19:20,617 Well, these were private messages, and we were married. 370 00:19:20,618 --> 00:19:22,786 In a case involving a child, spousal privilege doesn't hold. 371 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,913 - She isn't a child! - The charges say she is. 372 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:28,249 And so did Michael, which is why even though she's legally an adult, 373 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,669 they're able to say you abandoned a child. 374 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:32,629 They-- they can't read these in the courtroom. 375 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:34,130 No kidding. 376 00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:36,883 Deidra and I are going to huddle up, 377 00:19:36,884 --> 00:19:38,176 get back into these case files, 378 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,136 and see if we can get these stricken. 379 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:42,682 In the meantime, you two, get your shit together. 380 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:45,183 Read through these. 381 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:49,479 Be prepared for what the other side now knows. 382 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,523 And I'm gonna call you an Uber, my friend, 383 00:19:51,524 --> 00:19:53,818 because you don't look fit to drive. 384 00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:57,321 It's okay. I'll take him. 385 00:19:58,322 --> 00:19:59,740 We can go through this stuff together. 386 00:20:03,244 --> 00:20:06,121 "I have a video of you whooping the holy freaking hell 387 00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:08,707 "out of Natalia in the living room 388 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,876 when you tried to beat the truth outta her." 389 00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,754 Then she says, "Whatever. 390 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:17,674 That midget was very evil, and you know it." 391 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:29,645 I mean, the worse they are, the better for me, right? 392 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:32,732 I knew it was bad. 393 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:36,234 But getting in their heads, 394 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:38,027 understanding how they saw you, 395 00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:39,905 the words they used to talk about you? 396 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,200 I hate that you have to see all this. 397 00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:48,164 It's the way a lot of people talk about people like me. 398 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:54,794 I'm just saying, if you decide it's too much, 399 00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:57,380 that you don't want to go to court, we've got you. 400 00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:59,216 I promise. 401 00:21:01,677 --> 00:21:03,471 I'm not a kid anymore, Brandon. 402 00:21:04,638 --> 00:21:06,766 When I tell you I can handle this... 403 00:21:08,142 --> 00:21:09,643 I need you to listen. 404 00:21:12,563 --> 00:21:14,773 Why would you write something like that in a message?! 405 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,483 That you beat her? Because you did! 406 00:21:16,484 --> 00:21:18,276 And-- and you wrote right back like it was nothing, 407 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,236 like you were proud! 408 00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:22,323 Whatever. She was evil, and you know it. 409 00:21:23,032 --> 00:21:25,658 I was just trying to protect my family from her. 410 00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:28,995 When you take it out of context, it makes me sound like a monster! 411 00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:31,039 I swear, Michael, if I go to jail because of you... 412 00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:38,005 - What's so funny? - Nothing, it's just... it's ironical. 413 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:44,010 I'm not gonna let you pull that crap with me, Michael. 414 00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:45,262 What is funny? 415 00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:50,851 Terrance says that if I'm found guilty... 416 00:21:52,019 --> 00:21:55,773 they'll probably offer me immunity to testify against you. 417 00:21:56,857 --> 00:22:01,195 Apparently, the state wants you so bad that they're willing to let me off. 418 00:22:05,616 --> 00:22:07,409 And what will you do? 419 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,330 It's a problem for another day. 420 00:22:23,259 --> 00:22:25,635 I know you don't wanna go to jail, Michael. 421 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:27,638 I know you wanna stay with your new family. 422 00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:31,433 But I don't really think you want me to go to jail, do you? 423 00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:34,562 Can you live with that? 424 00:22:35,646 --> 00:22:37,147 The boys having no mother? 425 00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:43,153 I don't know. 426 00:22:48,659 --> 00:22:52,245 We should go somewhere and go through these, like Terrance said. 427 00:22:52,246 --> 00:22:53,998 Maybe there's a way I can help. 428 00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:02,171 It should be quiet in here. Boys went to go see the new Thor. 429 00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:04,508 Oh, okay. 430 00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:06,176 Oh! 431 00:23:07,511 --> 00:23:10,180 - What happened to the movie? - Tickets were sold out. 432 00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:13,224 - Oh. - What's he doing here? 433 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,729 Your dad's trial starts tomorrow, so we have a few things to go over. 434 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:22,984 You guys look really good. You got so big. 435 00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:24,944 Mike, why don't you let me talk to the boys? 436 00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:27,823 I'll meet you upstairs, it's the second door on the right. 437 00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:33,119 - So did you guys get something to eat? - No, we're not hungry. 438 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,455 - Can we please talk about what's going on? - I told you, 439 00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:36,623 I'm helping your dad. 440 00:23:36,624 --> 00:23:38,291 But you said that he hurt you. 441 00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:40,460 He's on his meds now, and he's harmless. 442 00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:41,794 You don't have to see him again. 443 00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:43,963 Who cares? I don't wanna see him. 444 00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:45,381 End of discussion. 445 00:23:45,382 --> 00:23:48,636 - I'm going up there now. - Mom, no. This is crazy. 446 00:23:49,345 --> 00:23:50,930 Keep playing. 447 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:06,778 Uh... did-- did you plan for them to be here? 448 00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:08,738 What? No, you heard them. 449 00:24:08,739 --> 00:24:12,200 The movie got sold out, though they've seen it three times. 450 00:24:12,201 --> 00:24:16,205 I-I don't-- I don't... I'm not sure I believe you, Kris. 451 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:21,126 Look, it... [scoffs] It's fine, I just... 452 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,587 We need to talk about everything else. 453 00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,131 This is-- this is feeling really weird, okay? 454 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,676 It's really weird that no one is backing you up. 455 00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:33,805 And I'm just like, "She didn't make this up, did she?" 456 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,391 I mean, did-- did you make this up? 457 00:24:36,767 --> 00:24:40,812 You've got to be kidding me. No, you're not pinning this on me. 458 00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:42,146 Who took her to Larue? 459 00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:44,440 Who made her her own trustee? 460 00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:47,068 Pretty sure it's both of our names on the re-aging petition. 461 00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:50,029 I did those things because of you! 462 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:52,198 - You lower your voice. - Kris! 463 00:24:52,199 --> 00:24:54,076 I don't wanna scare my boys. 464 00:24:57,121 --> 00:25:00,707 I did those things, and I only did those things, 465 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,292 because I believed you, because you told me it was true, 466 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:05,086 and you asked me to do it, and I did that stuff. 467 00:25:05,087 --> 00:25:07,381 And if this isn't real, Kris... 468 00:25:08,465 --> 00:25:10,466 Do-- do you understand? 469 00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:13,928 If, if, if what you said is-- 470 00:25:13,929 --> 00:25:16,932 and if Natalia didn't... 471 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,186 Oh, my God! 472 00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,483 Oh, my God, if we... 473 00:25:31,447 --> 00:25:32,905 I can't-- I-- 474 00:25:32,906 --> 00:25:35,241 I can't-- oh, hold on, I need to sit down. I can't-- 475 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:41,164 Kris, I'm having a panic attack. 476 00:25:41,165 --> 00:25:42,457 - I can't. - Okay. Okay. 477 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:45,334 - Oh God, I can't breathe. - Okay, I'm here. 478 00:25:45,335 --> 00:25:48,171 It's okay. 479 00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:51,258 I'm here. I'm here. 480 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,594 Shh. 481 00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:56,095 - Do you feel my hand? - Yes! 482 00:25:59,475 --> 00:26:02,143 I'm here. It's okay. 483 00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:04,854 It's alright. 484 00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:07,273 - Okay. - You know what I think? 485 00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:09,942 You can't let them get into your head, baby. 486 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:11,111 Okay. 487 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,823 Don't let them undo all the good you did. 488 00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:18,535 Natalia was lying. 489 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,163 She was dangerous. 490 00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:25,542 I know this is hard, and I know you've been hurting. 491 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:28,837 But you're a good man. 492 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:31,590 You're a good father. 493 00:26:33,092 --> 00:26:34,635 A good man. 494 00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:39,431 You know why things got bad for us at the end? 495 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,893 It's because you stopped needing me. 496 00:26:44,228 --> 00:26:47,564 Kris, no, I needed you. I did, I... 497 00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:52,110 I thought you were ignoring me. 498 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:55,989 And I-- I was so lonely, I... 499 00:26:57,825 --> 00:26:59,408 I was dying without you. 500 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,162 You never got over what happened with her. 501 00:27:03,539 --> 00:27:04,706 You blamed me. 502 00:27:06,208 --> 00:27:10,087 I mean, the way you looked at me completely changed. 503 00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:14,925 You started looking at me like I was the enemy. 504 00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:20,722 And I know you don't mean it, but... 505 00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:24,351 it kind of feels like what you're doing now. 506 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,395 Like I'm this terrible person. 507 00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:29,647 Baby, what we did was heroic. 508 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,150 We had to protect our family. 509 00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:40,409 And you stepped up. 510 00:27:42,244 --> 00:27:44,288 When I needed you, you stepped up. 511 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,835 Then you had a plan to put her away, 512 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,796 and to go to Dr. Lawrence. 513 00:27:56,633 --> 00:28:00,177 - Yeah. - When you did that, 514 00:28:00,178 --> 00:28:02,723 - it made me feel so safe. - Mm. 515 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:05,642 So loved. 516 00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:11,356 And I guess that's... 517 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:21,116 That's the feeling I was trying to hold onto when I... 518 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,164 I sent you those pictures. 519 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,207 Mm. 520 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,711 God, those fucking pictures. 521 00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:44,139 I... 522 00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:47,309 I kept them. 523 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:50,437 You did? 524 00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:54,732 Yeah... 525 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,401 I like those pictures. 526 00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:00,322 I know what you like, Michael. 527 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:02,658 You know I do. 528 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:15,169 We're, uh, we're pretty hungry. Can we go get some pizza or something? 529 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,381 Well, that's a great idea. 530 00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:23,136 What do you say we go to Villa Tronco, like old times? 531 00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:27,307 Jacob? 532 00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:33,438 Wes? 533 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:38,819 You wanna come, Dad? It's been a while. 534 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:42,905 ♪ A bottle of white ♪ 535 00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:46,659 - ♪ A bottle of red ♪ - Yeah. 536 00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:51,914 ♪ Perhaps a bottle of rose instead ♪ 537 00:29:57,212 --> 00:30:00,090 - Wes, have another piece. - I'm good. 538 00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:03,300 Waste not, want not. 539 00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:06,387 Kris, he said he's good. Christ. 540 00:30:06,388 --> 00:30:08,098 Don't talk to Mom like that. 541 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,561 ♪ A bottle of white ♪ 542 00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:18,274 ♪ It all depends upon your appetite ♪ 543 00:30:19,693 --> 00:30:21,862 Oh. Uh, that's Terrance. Be right back. 544 00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:25,406 Hey, what's up, my man? 545 00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:27,450 Check your texts. 546 00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:37,460 Oh, my God, holy shit. 547 00:30:37,461 --> 00:30:39,336 Yep. The birth mom came forward 548 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:42,214 with hospital records, the birth certificate, the whole nine. 549 00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:45,259 Uh, so this is, like, really, really bad? 550 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:46,803 Could be the death knell. 551 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,889 You think any more about immunity? 552 00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:58,189 If the tables were turned, you know she'd take it. 553 00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:05,447 Yeah, um... 554 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,868 If-- if it goes bad, let's... 555 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:12,954 let's do it. 556 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:19,169 "This girl is my daughter who was born 20 years ago. 557 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:23,047 "Doctors told me to leave the baby, 558 00:31:23,048 --> 00:31:26,300 "that she had a complex pathology. 559 00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:28,094 "'Don't ruin your life,' they said. 560 00:31:28,095 --> 00:31:31,890 They had me surrender her immediately to an orphanage." 561 00:31:46,113 --> 00:31:48,322 I don't think we can show her. 562 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,117 Well, how are we gonna hide it? 563 00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:54,329 I know it's awful, but I mean, it's all over the news. 564 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:58,124 But the way she's been obsessing, 565 00:31:58,125 --> 00:32:02,211 she's liable to hop on a plane and hightail it to the Ukraine. 566 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:06,257 Hi, baby. 567 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:07,717 I read it. 568 00:32:09,219 --> 00:32:10,554 It's great for the case. 569 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:32,033 Mm. 570 00:32:37,914 --> 00:32:40,000 I told Terrance I'll do it. 571 00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:43,420 The immunity thing. 572 00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:49,717 - Mm. - Baby, I'm really scared. 573 00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:56,932 Proceedings begin today in a most unusual adoption case 574 00:32:56,933 --> 00:32:59,268 that has attracted international attention. 575 00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:00,395 Morning, bud. 576 00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:03,607 Have you read this, Mom? 577 00:33:06,151 --> 00:33:07,319 I don't read lies. 578 00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:14,284 Wheels up in five, boys. 579 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:17,328 Michael Barnett and his now ex-wife Kristine 580 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:20,080 stand accused of multiple counts of felony neglect, 581 00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:23,959 for abandoning their adopted eight-year-old daughter Natalia Grace, 582 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,297 whom they claim was an adult con artist out for blood. 583 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,509 In breaking news overnight, 584 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,887 Natalia's biological mother has come forward 585 00:33:34,888 --> 00:33:38,641 with the revelation that she gave birth to Natalia in 2003, 586 00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:41,352 not 1989, as the Barnetts claim. 587 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:44,021 This could be the smoking gun the state needs to prove 588 00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:47,107 that the Barnetts abandoned her in a Westfield apartment 589 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:49,068 when she was only eight years old. 590 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,988 All eyes are on the Tippecanoe County Courthouse 591 00:33:52,989 --> 00:33:56,825 where counsel from both sides have gathered for a pretrial hearing 592 00:33:56,826 --> 00:33:59,621 to discuss the inclusion of this latest wrinkle. 593 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,666 You're okay, you're okay. 594 00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:07,170 Okay. 595 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,593 Uh, wait, where's Terrance? 596 00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:17,429 Your Honor, at this time, the state requests-- 597 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:19,432 Just a moment, Miss Starbuck. 598 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,852 Where's the counsel for the defense? 599 00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:26,730 Uh, I'm sorry, my honor. 600 00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:28,023 "Your Honor," please. 601 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:30,234 Right, "Your Honor." 602 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:31,568 Doh. 603 00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:33,655 Long-time listener, first-time defendant. 604 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:42,371 Uh, my-- my counsel, um, uh, Terrance Kinnard, he's never late. 605 00:34:42,372 --> 00:34:46,166 So, if I could-- maybe we could have just a quick, um... 606 00:34:46,167 --> 00:34:47,501 - Uh, what do you call it? - Recess. 607 00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:49,712 Recess. Um, I could call him. 608 00:34:49,713 --> 00:34:52,464 I'm afraid I'm the one that calls the recesses, Mr. Barnett. 609 00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:54,049 Ah, Your Honor. 610 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:56,927 Uh, Judge Huss, please accept my deepest apologies. 611 00:34:56,928 --> 00:35:00,806 Uh, two flat tires. What are the odds? 612 00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:02,933 Nice to see you, Terrance. 613 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,476 Uh, as I started to say, 614 00:35:04,477 --> 00:35:08,147 in light of the breaking news about my client's birth mother, 615 00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:09,857 the state requests a postponement 616 00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:12,985 so we can send someone to Ukraine to test DNA. 617 00:35:12,986 --> 00:35:17,156 Uh, I-- I apologize, Your Honor, uh, but I hold our legal system 618 00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:19,366 in the highest regard, as I know you do, too. 619 00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:23,662 Uh, so, I'm offended on your behalf that Miss Starbuck would waltz in here 620 00:35:23,663 --> 00:35:27,374 on the day our proceedings are to begin and attempt to trick this court 621 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:30,753 into relitigating, uh, Miss Barnett's age. 622 00:35:30,754 --> 00:35:33,964 Miss Barnett filed countless petitions to change her age, 623 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,050 each of which was denied by the court, 624 00:35:36,051 --> 00:35:38,177 who upheld the fact that she was an adult 625 00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:41,096 when the, uh, Barnetts rented her an apartment. 626 00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:43,807 Your Honor, the state has unequivocal evidence 627 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:48,854 that Natalia was eight years old when the Barnetts abandoned her, alone. 628 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:50,773 You know, I should thank you, Miss Starbuck, 629 00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:52,650 because in trying to relitigate this, 630 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,318 you forced me to go back through paperwork 631 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:57,655 I've read a hundred times, and something new caught my eye. 632 00:35:57,656 --> 00:35:59,114 See this here. 633 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:03,911 Um, the state was previously granted the opportunity to appeal the decision 634 00:36:03,912 --> 00:36:07,289 in Miss Barnett's 2017 re-aging trial, and they opted not to. 635 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,042 And so, now, here we are, five years later, 636 00:36:10,043 --> 00:36:12,753 and they wanna waste the court's time by suddenly trying to appeal? 637 00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:16,507 I mean, I'm sorry, but that ship has circumnavigated the globe by now. 638 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,468 Uh, Your Honor, Mr. Kinnard knows he has a losing case... 639 00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:21,428 ...so he's grasping at straws, 640 00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:23,722 trying to throw out evidence on a technicality, truly. 641 00:36:23,723 --> 00:36:25,599 If you wanna talk grasping at straws, 642 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,852 uh, look no further than Miss Starbuck trying to use a tabloid 643 00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,438 to smuggle the question of Miss Barnett's age into court. 644 00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:33,524 I'm sorry, but the question of Natalia's age 645 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:35,651 has not been smuggled in here. 646 00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:39,363 Half the charges against Mr. Barnett hinge on the question of her age! 647 00:36:39,364 --> 00:36:41,824 Um, which is why the defense would like to submit a motion 648 00:36:41,825 --> 00:36:43,617 to dismiss these bogus charges... 649 00:36:43,618 --> 00:36:45,119 - What?! - ...uh, so as not to waste any more 650 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,329 of the court's valuable time. 651 00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:49,248 Miss Starbuck, is it true that the state 652 00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:52,376 declined to appeal the ruling of Natalia's age in 2017? 653 00:36:52,377 --> 00:36:54,128 - Yes, Your Honor, but-- - Hold that thought. 654 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:57,756 Ah. 655 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:12,354 Okay, this court will not set precedent 656 00:37:12,355 --> 00:37:15,315 for a criminal case to attack civil decisions, 657 00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:17,735 especially ones that have been upheld so many times. 658 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:20,779 The state had ample opportunity 659 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:24,283 to appeal the results of Natalia's age in 2017, 660 00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:25,617 and they declined. 661 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:29,079 So, I hereby grant the defense's motion to dismiss the four charges 662 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,832 that rely on Miss Barnett being a child. 663 00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:36,754 The remaining four charges that concern a legal dependent still hold. 664 00:37:36,755 --> 00:37:38,714 Please, Your Honor, I beg you to reconsider this. 665 00:37:38,715 --> 00:37:41,383 I will give the state lunch 666 00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:43,260 to adjust their strategy. 667 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,889 When we reconvene, the following rules will apply: 668 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:48,682 Rule number one, 669 00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:52,644 Natalia may not be called a child or an adult. 670 00:37:52,645 --> 00:37:55,773 If the notion of her age must be referenced, 671 00:37:55,774 --> 00:38:00,153 she may be referred to as, "a person born in 1989." 672 00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:04,448 The word "adoption" and discussion of her schooling 673 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:07,702 are also barred, as those relate to her age. 674 00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:13,916 Rule number two, the topic of Natalia 675 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:17,212 having been re-aged is off-limits. 676 00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:21,715 "Rule number three, given Natalia's legal age, 677 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:24,760 "the statute of limitations preclude litigating offense 678 00:38:24,761 --> 00:38:26,762 that took place prior to 2014"? 679 00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:28,013 This is BS! 680 00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:30,224 Everything they did to her happened before 2014. 681 00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:32,059 Dr. Young, your orthopedist. 682 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,020 Keep. The growth plate stuff is out. 683 00:38:35,021 --> 00:38:36,939 But she can testify that they didn't give her 684 00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:40,359 a walker or orthopedic shoes, and that increased her pain tenfold. 685 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,236 - Her immigration papers? - No. 686 00:38:42,237 --> 00:38:44,446 They have her birthday as 2003. 687 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:46,198 Agent Aguilar from CPS? 688 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,158 Uh-uh. "Child" Protective Services. 689 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:49,785 I'm sorry, what is happening here? 690 00:38:49,786 --> 00:38:51,787 The whole point is they abandoned a child. 691 00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:54,122 - What else is there? - They abandoned a disabled adult. 692 00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:55,582 We still have a case. Four charges. 693 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:58,418 Well, we can still say they beat me, right? 694 00:38:58,419 --> 00:39:00,295 You don't have to be a kid to be abused. 695 00:39:00,296 --> 00:39:01,923 We have the Facebook stuff. 696 00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:05,008 We can't use the Facebook messages. 697 00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:07,010 What? Why the heck not? 698 00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:09,638 They're protected under spousal privilege now. 699 00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:12,683 We were able to make an exception because she was a child when the abuse occurred. 700 00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:15,310 This is what I'm saying, it's rigged. This whole system, it's rigged. 701 00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:17,396 Cynthia, with all due respect, you gotta stop. 702 00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:19,648 We've all been working too long and hard to let this go. 703 00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:21,775 - This is our chance. - Don't do that. 704 00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:23,819 Let's try to stay respectful. 705 00:39:29,534 --> 00:39:31,785 This isn't gonna end well, baby. 706 00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:34,163 What else am I supposed to do? 707 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,915 It's time to get back in there. 708 00:39:36,916 --> 00:39:38,500 Okay, we can still do this. 709 00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,586 Okay. 710 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:51,430 In the case of the State of Indiana versus Michael Barnett, 711 00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:54,559 the Superior Court of Tippecanoe County is now in session. 712 00:40:22,128 --> 00:40:23,588 God is in control. 713 00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:28,425 - Remember that. - Amen. 714 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,184 Will the defendant please rise? 715 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:43,191 How does the defendant plead? 716 00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:45,860 Not guilty, Your Honor. 717 00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:51,615 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, because of her disability, 718 00:40:51,616 --> 00:40:56,328 Natalia Barnett was incapable of doing even basic tasks. 719 00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:59,373 She has no ability to take care of herself, 720 00:40:59,374 --> 00:41:02,709 yet Mr. Barnett abandoned her anyway. 721 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:05,295 Now, the defense will argue... 722 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:09,384 Natalia Barnett may look different than you and me... 723 00:41:10,385 --> 00:41:13,136 but she is a perfectly competent individual. 724 00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:15,722 Any difficulties she had while living alone 725 00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:17,557 are not my client's fault. 726 00:41:17,558 --> 00:41:20,228 Did Michael Barnett cause her dwarfism? 727 00:41:21,229 --> 00:41:22,230 I don't think so. 728 00:41:23,731 --> 00:41:25,857 So, Dr. Wachter, can you tell us 729 00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:28,527 how you came to observe Natalia's disability? 730 00:41:28,528 --> 00:41:30,988 Sure. She attended Chapel Ridge Elementary School. 731 00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:33,365 Objection! Your Honor, please instruct counsel 732 00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:35,742 and the witness to abide by your rulings. 733 00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:39,163 Sustained. The jury will ignore that response. 734 00:41:40,289 --> 00:41:42,124 I'm an LPN in the pediatric wing of Larue. 735 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:43,917 - Objection! - Sustained. 736 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:45,168 This makes no sense. 737 00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:47,504 Her disability wasn't the reason she couldn't live alone. 738 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,006 - It was because she was a ch-- - Objection. 739 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:51,008 Miss Starbuck, watch yourself. 740 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:53,594 - Well, if I'd known she was a child-- - Objection. 741 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,430 Of course she didn't know how to shop for herself. 742 00:41:56,431 --> 00:41:57,723 - She was a little-- - Objection. 743 00:41:57,724 --> 00:41:59,558 Then I don't know how to answer that question. 744 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,685 Objection! Objection! Objection! 745 00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:04,062 We ran a battery of tests that were conclusive. 746 00:42:04,063 --> 00:42:05,480 - She was a child. - Objection. 747 00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:07,816 - They knew she was a child! - Objection! 748 00:42:07,817 --> 00:42:10,736 I'm sorry, are we just not interested 749 00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:12,362 - in the truth here? - Objection! 750 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,407 Order! 751 00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:18,703 The jury will ignore the witness' last remarks. 752 00:42:19,412 --> 00:42:21,830 The state claims that you couldn't live on your own. 753 00:42:21,831 --> 00:42:23,290 But according to my math, 754 00:42:23,291 --> 00:42:25,167 you were old enough to take care of yourself. 755 00:42:25,168 --> 00:42:27,627 So, can you please tell the members of the jury 756 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:30,630 in what year were you born? 757 00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:37,345 - Natalia. - Hi! 758 00:42:39,432 --> 00:42:42,893 I... I'm a person... 759 00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:44,728 Are you gonna be my mommy and daddy? 760 00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:47,647 We sure would love that, if you'll have us. 761 00:42:47,648 --> 00:42:50,108 ...born in 1989. 762 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:55,405 Please don't leave me! 763 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:57,574 I will. I will. 764 00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:58,868 Please! 765 00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:03,622 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 766 00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:06,875 in the matter of the State of Indiana versus Michael Barnett, 767 00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:08,668 have you reached a verdict? 768 00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:09,879 We have, Your Honor. 769 00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:12,672 We know these things can be emotional, 770 00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:14,717 but please, no outbursts. 771 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,891 Will the defendant please rise? 772 00:43:26,813 --> 00:43:29,231 On count one, neglect of a dependent, 773 00:43:29,232 --> 00:43:30,566 we find the defendant... 774 00:43:32,026 --> 00:43:33,985 ...not guilty. 775 00:43:33,986 --> 00:43:36,613 Count two, not guilty. 776 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:39,616 Count three, not guilty... 777 00:43:44,705 --> 00:43:46,958 I'm fine. I'm fine. 778 00:43:48,835 --> 00:43:50,877 You're smart to hide here. 779 00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:52,672 It's a circus down there. 780 00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:56,550 Michael Barnett trying to win himself an Oscar, 781 00:43:56,551 --> 00:44:00,053 literally on the floor. "Thank God, thank God!" 782 00:44:00,054 --> 00:44:01,930 - This isn't funny. - I know, baby. 783 00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:03,598 Nothing about this is funny. 784 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,642 But you're not surprised, right? 785 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,562 You knew this was gonna happen. 786 00:44:09,147 --> 00:44:10,773 I said nothing of the sort. 787 00:44:12,108 --> 00:44:14,819 You think your face hides anything you're thinking? 788 00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:20,323 I guess it does, if you're getting "I told you so," from this. 789 00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:22,827 Who was it that said this wasn't gonna end well? 790 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:28,081 - I was trying to help you. - By treating me like a child? 791 00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:29,749 No. 792 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:33,045 By treating you like a young lady with a head full of steam. 793 00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:38,925 You act like you're invincible, and, honey, you are close. 794 00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:41,011 But nobody's invincible, not all the way. 795 00:44:41,012 --> 00:44:42,680 You don't think I know that? 796 00:44:43,848 --> 00:44:46,142 But we both know it didn't have to be this way. 797 00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:49,895 - What are you gettin' at? - The guardianship hearing! 798 00:44:49,896 --> 00:44:51,980 You were trying to help me then, too? 799 00:44:51,981 --> 00:44:54,775 You didn't let us appeal the decision, you made us stop! 800 00:44:55,985 --> 00:44:59,279 Oh, Tally. That is low. 801 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,949 We could have used the 10 million pieces of evidence 802 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:05,035 to prove that I was a kid! 803 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,287 My birth mother! 804 00:45:07,288 --> 00:45:09,624 The Facebook messages, the doctors! 805 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,169 But I'm gonna be like this forever. 806 00:45:14,086 --> 00:45:16,796 For the rest of my life, people will see me 807 00:45:16,797 --> 00:45:19,634 like the Barnetts want me to be-- a monster. 808 00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:25,222 A 33-year-old monster, just because you wanted to help. 809 00:45:25,223 --> 00:45:27,016 Oh, no. Uh-uh. 810 00:45:27,934 --> 00:45:29,352 This is not on me, baby. 811 00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:33,104 There is a whole clown car of people to blame. 812 00:45:33,105 --> 00:45:36,233 Courts, doctors, all the adults 813 00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:38,902 that knew what was happening and did nothing to stop it. 814 00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,488 And I am not one of those people. 815 00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:46,701 Maybe not, but you're worse, 'cause you act like you believe in me, 816 00:45:46,702 --> 00:45:49,330 but you think this is all I am. 817 00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,625 A project to help you feel better about yourself. 818 00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:55,711 You're just like Kristine! 819 00:45:59,131 --> 00:46:00,841 You really think that? 820 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,596 I know you're hurting right now, but as hurt as you are, 821 00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:08,640 you can't treat me like that. 822 00:46:08,641 --> 00:46:10,351 I'm not the one you're mad at. 823 00:46:11,686 --> 00:46:13,020 I love you. 824 00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:15,856 I don't think you wanna push me away. 825 00:46:21,279 --> 00:46:22,738 I'm a grown-ass woman now. 826 00:46:24,532 --> 00:46:26,325 You can't tell me what I want. 827 00:46:29,662 --> 00:46:30,830 Okay, then. 828 00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:51,182 I just feel giddy to get my life back. 829 00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:53,310 Just finally feel like there's this weight 830 00:46:53,311 --> 00:46:56,980 that's been lifted off, and I can just breathe 831 00:46:56,981 --> 00:47:00,234 and just get back to saving kids. 832 00:47:02,903 --> 00:47:05,448 - I-- I'm okay. - We have to celebrate! 833 00:47:10,161 --> 00:47:12,203 I'm gonna email my old publicist, 834 00:47:12,204 --> 00:47:15,875 tell her to shake off the cobwebs. 835 00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:19,085 Whoa! 836 00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:21,546 Facebook's blowing up. 837 00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:24,341 I hope you rot in jail for what you did to that poor little girl. 838 00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:25,425 You whore! 839 00:47:25,426 --> 00:47:27,594 There's a dark corner in hell for people like you. 840 00:47:27,595 --> 00:47:28,928 I hope you get raped! 841 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:30,890 Ugh! 842 00:47:32,224 --> 00:47:33,642 What? What is it? 843 00:47:36,687 --> 00:47:38,855 Kristine, what is it? 844 00:47:38,856 --> 00:47:41,776 People are sick, that's what. 845 00:47:42,777 --> 00:47:46,364 Case is literally closed. How can people still have questions? 846 00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:48,949 I have a question. 847 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:51,369 Oh? 848 00:47:52,912 --> 00:47:54,372 Well, I just thought that... 849 00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:58,208 I thought Natalia looked a lot older up there. 850 00:47:58,209 --> 00:48:00,669 She looked mature. 851 00:48:03,422 --> 00:48:07,635 Well, no matter how hard we Botox, we all age. 852 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,221 That's not what I meant. 853 00:48:12,306 --> 00:48:14,016 Kris, she looked taller. 854 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:18,019 She has breasts now, and hips. 855 00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:20,772 She's-- her, her face looks like a young adult. 856 00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:22,315 Do you have a point, Val? 857 00:48:22,316 --> 00:48:24,150 It's just that a lot of what they were saying, 858 00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:26,070 what the witnesses were trying to say... 859 00:48:27,488 --> 00:48:31,242 Do you think that possibly, maybe, maybe you could have been wrong? 860 00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:33,785 Are you kidding me? 861 00:48:35,287 --> 00:48:38,581 - Whose side are you on, Val? - I was on yours, Kristine. 862 00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:40,959 - But if she was a child-- - She is a monster. 863 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,629 But why are you the only one who's still holding onto that story? 864 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:49,801 There were so many doctors who were-- who were willing to testify on her behalf. 865 00:48:49,802 --> 00:48:53,889 And all that stuff with her bio mom, a-and you couldn't find witnesses, right? 866 00:48:55,182 --> 00:48:56,183 Wow. 867 00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,770 I would expect this from some people. 868 00:49:01,063 --> 00:49:02,440 Not my best friend. 869 00:49:03,232 --> 00:49:05,567 Who knew you were such a Judas? Boys! 870 00:49:05,568 --> 00:49:08,111 I feel so stupid. I believed you, Kristine. 871 00:49:08,112 --> 00:49:09,529 Mom? 872 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:11,614 - Get your stuff, we're going. - What? No way! 873 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:13,241 Ethan and I are going to a party with Jaden. 874 00:49:13,242 --> 00:49:14,742 Fine. Jacob, let's go. 875 00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:16,454 Kris, seriously? 876 00:49:18,205 --> 00:49:19,540 I saved your daughter. 877 00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:39,351 Surprise! 878 00:49:40,895 --> 00:49:43,898 Sorry, I didn't know how to start. 879 00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:48,193 I just, I really need to talk to you. 880 00:49:48,194 --> 00:49:51,029 Yeah, uh, you know, I don't know if that's a-- a good idea. 881 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:55,367 Michael, come on, you got off. So, can we please just talk honestly? 882 00:49:56,452 --> 00:49:57,745 I need to understand. 883 00:50:01,415 --> 00:50:04,835 Okay. Just, um, just for a minute though, okay? 884 00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:07,671 What is it? 885 00:50:12,468 --> 00:50:15,596 It's-- it's just, you knew, right? 886 00:50:16,597 --> 00:50:21,018 That I was a kid, that she was hurting me? 887 00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:24,438 Um... 888 00:50:25,648 --> 00:50:26,941 That's... 889 00:50:28,567 --> 00:50:31,277 I mean, it's-- it's complicated, you know? 890 00:50:31,278 --> 00:50:32,863 I mean, uh... 891 00:50:35,074 --> 00:50:36,367 You... 892 00:50:38,244 --> 00:50:40,828 You have to understand that, um... 893 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:41,914 W-- 894 00:50:42,164 --> 00:50:43,791 We were both victims here, right? 895 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:47,377 Kristine, uh, controlled me too. 896 00:50:47,378 --> 00:50:49,420 She-- She-- She did it for years. 897 00:50:49,421 --> 00:50:51,422 She still-- I mean, she still does, 898 00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:55,260 and-- and I just didn't have the strength to stand up to her. 899 00:50:55,261 --> 00:50:57,637 I think-- I think what happened, 900 00:50:57,638 --> 00:51:00,473 we-- we were, uh, facing the same monster. 901 00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:03,769 That whole time, we were, and we didn't even know it. 902 00:51:05,104 --> 00:51:07,273 That we-- we're the same here. 903 00:51:08,357 --> 00:51:09,900 Right? I mean, does that make sense? 904 00:51:10,609 --> 00:51:12,152 But Michael, I was a kid. 905 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,155 You were supposed to be my dad. 906 00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:27,333 You-- do you wanna-- do you wanna sit down? 907 00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:28,836 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 908 00:51:29,962 --> 00:51:32,505 Don't tell your brothers this, but... 909 00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:34,674 you know I always like our private time the best 910 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,093 when it's just you and me. 911 00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:42,265 Do you want some music? 912 00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:49,815 ♪ Bring me southern kisses from your room ♪ 913 00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:52,817 I remember what you did to Natalia. 914 00:51:52,818 --> 00:51:55,486 ♪ Meet me in the middle of the night, let me hear you say ♪ 915 00:51:55,487 --> 00:51:57,697 I'm not judging you. 916 00:51:57,698 --> 00:52:00,283 I'm not laying blame, I just... 917 00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:02,535 I just had to say that. 918 00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:05,747 Oh, sweet boy. You were too young 919 00:52:05,748 --> 00:52:09,167 to know what was happening around you. 920 00:52:09,168 --> 00:52:13,088 We did everything we could to protect you from what was going on. 921 00:52:13,756 --> 00:52:17,092 But you didn't protect me from it. I saw it. 922 00:52:18,218 --> 00:52:19,803 And I'm not certain how to live with that. 923 00:52:20,888 --> 00:52:22,139 How do you? 924 00:52:23,557 --> 00:52:26,643 Mom, please. The trial's over. 925 00:52:26,644 --> 00:52:27,728 Exactly! 926 00:52:30,022 --> 00:52:31,773 So, there's nothing more to talk about. 927 00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:34,693 ♪ Come on out beneath the shining sun ♪ 928 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:41,240 In that article, her mom said the doctors 929 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,494 told her that Natalia would never amount to anything. 930 00:52:45,204 --> 00:52:48,415 That her life would be better if she didn't even take Natalia home. 931 00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:51,709 It's a lot like what they told you about me. 932 00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:55,004 It's not the same, not the same at all. Don't you even say that. 933 00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:57,715 I've heard you give that speech a thousand times. 934 00:52:57,716 --> 00:52:59,717 "He'd never learn to read, to tie his shoes. 935 00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:01,844 "He'd never learn to wrap his arms around me and tell me 936 00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:03,222 that he loves me." 937 00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:07,518 We're almost there. 938 00:53:12,856 --> 00:53:14,524 Why'd you do it, anyways? 939 00:53:16,068 --> 00:53:17,652 Why did you adopt me? 940 00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:20,238 I don't-- I don't know. I can only speak for myself, 941 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,201 but I-- I just really wanted a daughter. I did. 942 00:53:24,827 --> 00:53:26,161 But why? 943 00:53:29,581 --> 00:53:31,750 It's everything I've been saying, I just... 944 00:53:33,335 --> 00:53:34,962 I was really... 945 00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:40,592 broken, and I wanted to feel better. 946 00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:44,929 So, I made you feel better, 947 00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:48,224 - and then you didn't need me anymore? - No. No, no, no, no, no. 948 00:53:48,225 --> 00:53:50,853 I-- I didn't mean it like that, you have to understand. 949 00:53:52,146 --> 00:53:55,982 I-- I was the one who was-- who was trying to hang onto you 950 00:53:55,983 --> 00:53:57,568 for-- for as long as I could. 951 00:53:58,569 --> 00:54:01,071 I mean, I'm not a bad guy, right? 952 00:54:03,073 --> 00:54:07,578 I-- I was just trying to-- to make everybody happy. 953 00:54:09,288 --> 00:54:11,122 Don't look at me like that. What do you want me to do? 954 00:54:11,123 --> 00:54:13,417 Seriously, I will do-- I will do anything. 955 00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:16,295 Can you just admit what you did? 956 00:54:17,838 --> 00:54:19,548 That you hurt me? 957 00:54:22,092 --> 00:54:23,218 I... 958 00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:26,138 Kristine hurt you. 959 00:54:27,723 --> 00:54:32,351 Michael, if she was hurting you too, 960 00:54:32,352 --> 00:54:37,191 if you knew what was happening, why didn't you stop her? 961 00:54:38,817 --> 00:54:40,611 If you loved me... 962 00:54:42,321 --> 00:54:44,489 why didn't you do something? 963 00:54:47,326 --> 00:54:49,786 Mm. 964 00:54:53,207 --> 00:54:55,875 Hurt people hurt people, Natalia. That's just... 965 00:54:57,711 --> 00:55:00,129 But you didn't have to. 966 00:55:01,798 --> 00:55:04,133 Are you freaking kidding me? 967 00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:05,801 What is she doing here? 968 00:55:05,802 --> 00:55:08,346 - What are you doing here? - I need a place to stay. 969 00:55:08,347 --> 00:55:11,140 - There's a gas leak at Val's. - Uh... 970 00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:12,850 Well, you can't stay here. 971 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:15,686 You can't, my family's inside. You're gonna have to find a motel. 972 00:55:15,687 --> 00:55:19,065 I'm out of money, Michael, because of you, and-- 973 00:55:19,066 --> 00:55:20,776 I saw you at the trial, Natalia. 974 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,112 But I wasn't sure if I should say hi. 975 00:55:25,906 --> 00:55:27,741 You-- you can say hi. 976 00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:32,788 I also wasn't sure if I should say that I've had time to think about stuff... 977 00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:35,456 and I should have helped you. 978 00:55:35,457 --> 00:55:37,209 Alright, Jacob, that's enough. 979 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,631 She made us scared of you, but you were just a kid. 980 00:55:43,632 --> 00:55:45,300 I shouldn't have listened. 981 00:55:46,802 --> 00:55:48,470 I'm very sorry. 982 00:55:51,765 --> 00:55:52,891 I-It's okay. 983 00:55:53,976 --> 00:55:56,352 It's okay, you were-- you were just a kid too. 984 00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:58,771 Okay, let's go to Grammy's. 985 00:55:58,772 --> 00:56:00,232 I don't think I want to. 986 00:56:04,027 --> 00:56:06,612 Do you-- do you wanna stay here? 987 00:56:07,906 --> 00:56:08,991 Okay. 988 00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:15,831 Okay. 989 00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:18,834 Judases everywhere. 990 00:56:21,378 --> 00:56:22,588 Everywhere. 991 00:56:38,186 --> 00:56:39,478 How'd it go? 992 00:56:39,479 --> 00:56:42,231 Kristine showed up. 993 00:56:42,232 --> 00:56:43,317 Jake, too. 994 00:56:47,988 --> 00:56:51,866 I'm sorry, I should have gone with you. 995 00:56:51,867 --> 00:56:54,161 Mm. It's okay. 996 00:56:57,664 --> 00:56:59,791 You shouldn't have had to face her on your own. 997 00:57:01,877 --> 00:57:06,381 It's fine. At this point, I know how to handle her. 998 00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:13,262 That woman. I don't know, I can never decide. 999 00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:15,557 You think she believes the story she tells? 1000 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:18,769 Who cares? Everyone else does. 1001 00:57:20,062 --> 00:57:23,356 ♪ Young child with dreams ♪ 1002 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:32,366 ♪ Dreaming each dream on your own ♪ 1003 00:57:35,494 --> 00:57:36,952 Are you coming to bed? 1004 00:57:36,953 --> 00:57:40,247 ♪ When children play ♪ 1005 00:57:40,248 --> 00:57:41,833 Okay. 1006 00:57:43,001 --> 00:57:48,882 ♪ Seems like you end up alone ♪ 1007 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:02,103 ♪ Papa says he'd love to be with you ♪ 1008 00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:04,105 ♪ If he had more time ♪ 1009 00:58:04,106 --> 00:58:05,856 After Natalia was born, 1010 00:58:05,857 --> 00:58:07,608 the doctor said I should give her up. 1011 00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:10,361 They said she would never live a normal life. 1012 00:58:10,362 --> 00:58:13,864 The doctor said there's nothing I could do for her. 1013 00:58:13,865 --> 00:58:15,616 "You're young," they said. 1014 00:58:15,617 --> 00:58:19,579 "You are 24 years old. Don't ruin your life." 1015 00:58:27,087 --> 00:58:29,798 ♪ Shilo, when I was young ♪ 1016 00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:34,469 ♪ I used to call your name ♪ 1017 00:58:35,429 --> 00:58:37,388 ♪ When no one else would come ♪ 1018 00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:39,474 I wanted this to go differently. 1019 00:58:40,058 --> 00:58:41,768 We failed you, Natalia. 1020 00:58:43,562 --> 00:58:44,771 I'm sorry. 1021 00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,068 I'm sorry they made you lie on the stand. 1022 00:58:52,279 --> 00:58:54,698 I'm sorry people didn't get to see the real you. 1023 00:58:57,617 --> 00:58:59,411 Thanks for the ride. 1024 00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:12,841 ♪ Oh ♪ 1025 00:59:15,469 --> 00:59:17,136 After Natalia was born, 1026 00:59:17,137 --> 00:59:19,013 the doctors said I should give her up. 1027 00:59:19,014 --> 00:59:20,806 Hey, Tally, is that you? Come here! 1028 00:59:20,807 --> 00:59:22,808 They said she would never live a normal life. 1029 00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:27,021 The doctor said there's nothing I could do for her. 1030 00:59:27,022 --> 00:59:28,814 "You're young," they said. 1031 00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:32,193 "You are 24 years old. Don't ruin your life." 1032 00:59:32,194 --> 00:59:33,819 Oh. Cool, yeah, I saw it. 1033 00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:35,780 No, it's not that. 1034 00:59:35,781 --> 00:59:37,907 Look. "We love you, Natalia." 1035 00:59:37,908 --> 00:59:39,909 "You are a light unto the world." 1036 00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:41,702 "God gave you strength, Natalia." 1037 00:59:41,703 --> 00:59:43,537 "That's right, Natalia. You go, girl!" 1038 00:59:43,538 --> 00:59:44,914 "You are a survivor!" 1039 00:59:44,915 --> 00:59:47,458 Wait, this dude's talking about marrying you. 1040 00:59:47,459 --> 00:59:50,836 "Love your YouTube videos! You're so funny and nice!" 1041 00:59:50,837 --> 00:59:53,964 "I feel so bad I doubted you, Natalia." 1042 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,509 "Hope this will silence the doubters and the haters." 1043 00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:59,929 - "We're praying for you, Natalia Grace." - "You're beautiful inside and out." 1044 00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:02,014 - "You're so courageous." - "You're such a fighter." 1045 01:00:02,015 --> 01:00:03,933 "You deserve the world, Natalia." 1046 01:00:03,934 --> 01:00:07,102 - "And now, the healing can begin." - "I wish I had her strength." 1047 01:00:07,103 --> 01:00:08,854 I'm sorry the court got it wrong. 1048 01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:10,439 Natalia Grace is a warrior! 1049 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,525 They don't get to decide who you are, Natalia. 1050 01:00:12,526 --> 01:00:14,443 It's such an awful story. 1051 01:00:14,444 --> 01:00:17,530 But she is so amazing. Nobody can bring her down! 1052 01:00:17,531 --> 01:00:18,989 "We see you, Natalia." 1053 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:21,534 "You are loved." 1054 01:00:24,371 --> 01:00:26,581 ♪ When no one else would come ♪ 1055 01:00:57,737 --> 01:01:04,034 ♪ All I saw was the way that she made me smile ♪ 1056 01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:08,206 ♪ She made me smile ♪ 1057 01:01:09,916 --> 01:01:12,544 ♪ Shilo, when I was young ♪ 1058 01:01:14,129 --> 01:01:16,798 ♪ I used to call your name ♪ 1059 01:01:18,341 --> 01:01:21,261 ♪ When no one else would come ♪ 1060 01:01:22,429 --> 01:01:25,473 ♪ Shilo, you always came ♪ 1061 01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:28,351 ♪ Come today ♪