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I believe every great leader
of their own destiny is fearless.

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There is no other way to be.

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Aware but fearless.

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I am going to make
my own decisions in life,

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and I'm going to make my own money.

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I'm going to buy my own car,
make my own way.

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I'm not going to depend on anybody else.

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The minute you depend on somebody else,
you lose something.

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You lose the right to decide for yourself.

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You've just got to go for it.

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Taking the risks to do things
your way can be scary.

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So you got to be brave.

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♪ Let's go girls♪

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Shania changed country music
because she went like this,

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"Oh, these are the lines? Cool."

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♪ I'm going out tonight
I'm feeling all right♪

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She was the first person to break that
door open and go across the music genres.

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She was that trailblazer.

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Shania does it all. She plays guitar,
she writes her own songs,

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she has, like, insane live shows.

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She was a strong female in country, which
is hard because country music's, like,

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the women don't make it.

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You'd have to take
a sledgehammer to knock her down.

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Record sales. Not streaming.

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How many artists
have followed huge records

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with one more, much less two more?

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She might not wear a banner
on her hat that, "I'm a feminist."

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She just did it.

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Shania Twain shifted culture.

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She paved the way
not only for women in country,

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but musicians everywhere.

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Are you ready?

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I said…

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are you ready?

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I spent most of my childhood
growing up

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in what I would call
a medium-sized mining town,

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Timmins, Ontario.

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We were struggling as far as,
you know, money.

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So there was always
a problem paying electric bills,

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the rent, um…

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Always a problem buying groceries.

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So it was just this struggle all the time.

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My mom loved music.

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Both my parents loved music,
so there was always music playing.

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Mostly country music.

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I mean, I listened to a lot of Dolly,
you know, the Coat of Many Colors.

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♪ My coat of many colors♪

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♪ That my momma made for me♪

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♪ Made only from rags♪

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♪ But I wore it so proudly♪

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♪ Although we had no money♪

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♪ I was rich as I could be♪

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♪ In my coat of many colors♪

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♪ My momma made for me♪

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So Dolly Parton was a big influence on me.

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-My child, how you've growed.
-I'm growin', ain't I?

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She had lived a life
that was very interesting,

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you know, grew up in a little shack.

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With a bunch of kids, not a lot of money.

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I was fascinated by her story,
and I related and thought, "Well…"

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"If she came from all the way there
and ended up all the way over there…

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I guess it's possible."

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"Maybe I can…"

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"Maybe I have a shot."

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I was kind of
a radio channel hog.

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I was the one that was always
changing the channel,

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finding music that I thought
we should listen to in the car.

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I would always go
for the harmonies just constantly,

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you know, singing along.

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I think that's probably where
my mother would have recognized

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that I had a different…

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ear for music than just the average kid.

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She thought I should develop it
and become a little singer.

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At the age of three, my mom would
put me up on the counter tops,

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and I would sing
for the people in the restaurant.

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Sing along with the jukebox.

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Pretty much anywhere
that my mother could find an audience,

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that's where she brought me to sing.

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I started playing guitar
at the age of eight years old.

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My dad taught me my first three chords.

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D, G, and A.

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I remember clearly.

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It was my mother's dream
for me to become a professional singer.

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She'd say, "Okay,
I'm going to come get you up, uh…

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once your dad's asleep,

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and then we're going to sneak out and…

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go to the bar,
and you're going to sing a set."

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And, you know, sometimes we would
get back, and he'd still be sleeping,

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and other times
he'd be waiting for us. Um…

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That would not end well.

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I was petrified to get up there and sing.

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It was okay to go in there as a kid

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once the bar was legally
no longer serving alcohol,

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even though everybody's tables
were loaded with their last call drinks.

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It was crazy. I had school in the morning.

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My mother was obsessed.

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There weren't any other kids
singing in bars.

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I mean, just period.

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And it was not the norm. No.

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I remember that I always tried to keep
a hundred songs in my repertoire.

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At a time.

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So that if the band didn't know one song,

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they'd know the other song
or something like that.

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And also I could take requests.

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Growing up in a violent household

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was…

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horrible.

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But I…

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locked myself away with music

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to block out everything else,

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so that all I could see, hear, think,
and imagine was music.

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Probably hearing my mother

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saying, "You can make it.
You're going to make it."

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I felt like that was going to
save us somehow if I made it,

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and it was more of a responsibility to be…

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a performer, to do it as a career.

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♪ And momma never wanted anymore
Than what she had♪

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♪ If she did
She never did say so to Daddy♪

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♪ He often left her all alone♪

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♪ And she didn't mind the stayin' home♪

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♪ If she did
She never did say so to Daddy♪

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♪ And she never missed the flowers♪

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♪ And the cards he never sent her♪

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♪ If she did
She never did say so to Daddy♪

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I was doing a concert
in Northern Ontario,

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and Shania was the opening act.

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And this little girl, probably 11,

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guitar was larger than she was, actually,

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and sat down and sang,
and I was in the wings and went,

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"Oh my, I… I can't believe this."

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♪ …so to Daddy♪

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♪ One morning we awoke♪

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♪ Just to find the note♪

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♪ That momma carefully wrote♪

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♪ And left to daddy♪

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♪ And as he began to read it♪

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♪ Our ears could not believe it♪

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♪ The words that she had written♪

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♪ There to daddy♪

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I mean, this sound, this voice,
the control, way back then.

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She brought tears to my eyes.
That's how much emotion was in the voice.

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Her mother was there, Sharon.

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And Sharon asked
if I would consider working with her.

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I, I thought then, right from the get-go,
that this little girl had a chance.

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I just knew that I loved music.

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I was always singing.
I was always being musically creative.

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By the time I was a teenager,
yeah, I was on…

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I was doing the odd little TV thing.

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It's a pleasure to welcome her back,
15 years of age,

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here's Miss Eilleen Twain!
Let's make her welcome.

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♪ Just walk on by♪

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♪ Wait on the corner♪

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♪ You know I love you
But we're strangers when we meet ♪

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♪ If I see you tomorrow♪

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♪ On some little place in town♪

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♪ Pardon me if I don't say hello♪

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♪ Hello♪

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♪ I belong to another♪

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♪ And it wouldn't look so good♪

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♪ To know someone
I'm not supposed to know♪

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♪ Just walk on by♪

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♪ Wait on the corner♪

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♪ I love you but we're strangers♪

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♪ When we meet♪

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By the time I was 16, I was already…

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really wanting to sing rock.

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Which my parents did not like

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because they thought I was going to sing
"their country" for the rest of my life.

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♪ Hit me with your best shot♪

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♪ Why don't you hit me
With your best shot ♪

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They wanted me to be
the next Tanya Tucker.

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I wanted to rock out, you know.

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Wanted to use my energy
and get out from behind my guitar.

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It was a really tough transition
because I was always such a shy singer.

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I think, once I started singing rock,

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I started developing my own style.

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I was stretching out
creatively, artistically,

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and it was also affecting my songwriting.

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Mare was a big support. She was
encouraging me to keep writing songs,

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make more demos…

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It was at that time,
I thought, you know, she really has it.

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She really has something unique.

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The idea was to make these demos for…

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you know, to get producers
and record labels interested.

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And…

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then my parents died.

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And nobody could
really help me through that…

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grief.

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It was a devastating time.

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Her world was pulled out from under her.

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She said, "Mary,
I don't know what I'm going to do."

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"I really don't know."

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At the time,
I just really wanted to quit…

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And…

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get a real job.

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I've got kids now.
I've got kids to support.

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How am I going to do it?

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And Mary Bailey says, there's
a singing job opening up at a resort

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in a place called Deerhurst
in Huntsville, Ontario.

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Deerhurst was a resort that had shows.

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They did sort of an Off-Broadway
production of musicals.

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And it was a gig. It was a job.

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It was an opportunity to make
some money to feed her family.

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And it turned out that live performing
was going to pay better,

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even at this level, at that little level,
than, um, working a regular day job.

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I mean, it was pretty decent paying.

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I was able to support my brothers. Um…

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I was able to make enough money to put
food on the table singing at this resort.

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♪ I was the one…♪

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Once I was performing at Deerhurst,

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the Vegas-style show

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was a whole different thing.

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It was the first time I had
ever done anything like that.

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Miss Eilleen Twain.
How 'bout it? Let me hear it!

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It was pretty scary. I didn't
really know what I was doing at all.

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I had no idea

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how to sing and wear high heel shoes,
for example,

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at the same time.

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I had to learn fast
because this was now my new job.

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♪ Did you ever know that you're my hero?♪

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Somewhere in the middle
of all of that, I learned

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to respect and appreciate that

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I did have a talent that would be
a shame to throw away and not pursue.

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I was busy rehearsing,
running the kids back and forth.

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You know, before and after the show,
I would go home and write.

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There was no other way to get ahead
except working my ass off, really.

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That was it. No other way.

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♪ And whoever said
That opposites attract ♪

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♪ I'd say they all know where is that♪

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All I could do was keep working,
keep demoing, keep writing,

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and hoping I would get a break.

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Shania started to focus
more on, and understand

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who she was,
and the direction she wanted to take.

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She called and said, "You know, Mary,
I'm ready to do country."

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Nashville 95, WSM-FM…

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Well, my debut record was an experience
that was pretty much

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me as the newbie in town, in Nashville,

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treading lightly, trying to find my way

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as an original artist
with all my own ideas…

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without being, you know,
kicked out of town.

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Well, I was vice president
of the A&R department

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when I signed Shania.

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I remember the sound of her voice, mainly.

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She… She still does not sound
like any other singer.

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♪ You lay a whole lot of love on me♪

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Her songs, uh, I don't…
mean this in a wrong way,

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but some of her songs
I thought were incomplete

248
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at the time, and, uh…

249
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they were not as country

250
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as we were thinking about at that time.

251
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So we started looking for other songs

252
00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:48,317
from other writers and publishers in town.

253
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I was definitely coming
from a spicier place as a songwriter.

254
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And the A&R department,

255
00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:01,455
just didn't think it was country enough,

256
00:18:01,538 --> 00:18:05,584
and I kind of had to do
a little reset on my expectations.

257
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:08,003
I didn't cry about it.

258
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,006
I accepted it.

259
00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:14,635
There's not

260
00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:19,389
really that much of my,
you know, creative input…

261
00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,810
…in the album at all.

262
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,230
Um, other than maybe
just the way I sang things

263
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or the way I phrase things,
that sort of thing in the studio.

264
00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:32,820
Even that didn't leave me any room,
because they were three-hour sessions.

265
00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:34,947
What could I do in three-hour sessions?

266
00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:37,658
Jingle singers can do it
in three-hour sessions.

267
00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:41,411
But if you're trying to be creative…
I had no room to experiment.

268
00:18:41,495 --> 00:18:43,330
I had no room to grow into…

269
00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:45,874
Uh, to grow into the project.

270
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You had a female artist
and a female manager to start.

271
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And I don't think that
we were taken that seriously.

272
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Shania, welcome to the show.
You look terrific on camera.

273
00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:02,182
-Really.
-Thank you.

274
00:19:02,266 --> 00:19:05,269
I think one of the important aspects
of the business these days

275
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is presentation, and looks play
an important role in that.

276
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And you have the looks
to back up a wonderful song.

277
00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:13,777
Is that true, this is the last one
you recorded for the album?

278
00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:15,404
- No, I lied.
- Oh, you lied?

279
00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:17,781
- No, it's true.
- Good girl.

280
00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:20,826
And this is the album called Shania Twain.

281
00:19:20,909 --> 00:19:23,287
That's easy to remember
because it's so unusual,

282
00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,289
and there's a pretty picture on the cover.

283
00:19:25,372 --> 00:19:27,666
Joining us now is Shania Twain.

284
00:19:27,749 --> 00:19:31,420
Her self-titled debut album
has been garnering its share of attention.

285
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:32,754
-Yeah.
-You look great.

286
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:34,089
-Sound good too.
-Thank you.

287
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:38,177
You have to work three times as hard
as the average guy in country music,

288
00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:40,137
in order to in order to get a shot.

289
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,265
To be relentless was the only way.

290
00:19:44,224 --> 00:19:46,685
I think that's the only way
to be taken seriously.

291
00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:49,313
You have to kill yourself to get there.
Is it worth it?

292
00:19:49,396 --> 00:19:52,024
I don't know.
I think that when you're young,

293
00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,235
why not, right?

294
00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:58,989
Women in country music,

295
00:19:59,072 --> 00:20:00,365
specifically,

296
00:20:00,449 --> 00:20:05,454
have sometimes been held to a different
standard than their male counterparts

297
00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:07,664
within country. Uh…

298
00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:11,919
Johnny Cash could get away with
singing about shooting a man in Reno

299
00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:16,256
and drinking himself to death,
and, you know, doing cocaine,

300
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:19,218
uh, and everyone would be fine with that.

301
00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:23,764
Uh, and then women were expected
to present kind of, maybe,

302
00:20:23,847 --> 00:20:26,558
what would be considered,
like, good Christian values.

303
00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:32,439
I think, especially for a female,
if you don't know who you are,

304
00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:35,943
and what you want to say,
and what you want to represent,

305
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,527
someone's going to tell you.

306
00:20:37,611 --> 00:20:41,448
And that might not align with,
like, what you actually want.

307
00:20:42,324 --> 00:20:45,494
♪ Maybe tonight I'm gonna tell him♪

308
00:20:46,286 --> 00:20:47,537
♪ How I feel♪

309
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:51,124
♪ Maybe I'll leave well enough alone♪

310
00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:56,004
The music video for, "What Made
You Say That?" that was the moment

311
00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:58,507
that I grabbed onto creatively,

312
00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:00,884
and it was liberating.

313
00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:04,429
And I liberated myself in so many ways.

314
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,723
Right from that very first video.

315
00:21:07,474 --> 00:21:12,646
She may have had limitations
with the music that she could record,

316
00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:18,151
but visually she really could be
creative in all elements.

317
00:21:18,235 --> 00:21:20,195
It was like freedom.

318
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,073
♪ …I heard a voice inside me say♪

319
00:21:23,156 --> 00:21:24,491
♪ What made you say that♪

320
00:21:24,574 --> 00:21:28,036
♪ Was it the moonlight
Was it the starlight in your eyes ♪

321
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,579
♪ What made you say that♪

322
00:21:29,663 --> 00:21:31,790
♪ Have you been listening to your heart♪

323
00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:35,627
It was probably the biggest turning point
for me as an artist,

324
00:21:35,711 --> 00:21:39,881
that it was going to be hands-on from
then on than anything else I've ever done.

325
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,592
Um, because it really set a tone.

326
00:21:43,176 --> 00:21:49,057
It's so fresh compared to the other
things that were being shown at that time.

327
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,600
Look at it.

328
00:21:50,684 --> 00:21:53,895
It's like, "Oh my God,
how can we show this?"

329
00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:56,523
I mean, this woman is very sensual,

330
00:21:56,606 --> 00:21:59,443
and CMT initially wasn't too keen on that

331
00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:01,445
because that was brand new, you know.

332
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:05,615
Women didn't really show
their midriff that much

333
00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:07,242
in country music.

334
00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,953
I was a disruption
to the image of country music.

335
00:22:10,037 --> 00:22:11,163
Absolutely.

336
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,415
♪ What made you say that♪

337
00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:17,044
♪ Was it the moonlight
Was it the starlight in your eyes ♪

338
00:22:17,127 --> 00:22:19,338
♪ What made you say that ♪

339
00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:22,424
I mean, I love it. Also she's just like

340
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:25,635
feeling up on this super-hot,
shirtless guy.

341
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:30,349
Like, she's like, "I… I run this town,
don't worry about it."

342
00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:35,062
And then, of course, Mutt.
Mutt saw that video, and, um…

343
00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:38,774
That was a journey unto its own too.

344
00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:56,083
I say to Eilleen,
there's this guy by the name of Mutt,

345
00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:59,461
he wants to talk to you about music.

346
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,463
She said, "Mary, for God sakes."

347
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:06,843
I said, "I don't know who he is. I think
he's in music. He seems to know a lot."

348
00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:09,763
I don't know who this person is.
I don't know his success yet.

349
00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:12,140
I just know that his name is Mutt Lange.

350
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:14,726
I kind of thought Mutt was a strange name.
I just…

351
00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:19,481
It was just funny.
What kind of a name is Mutt? Mutt Lange.

352
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,108
It was just so funny for me.

353
00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:23,777
I called him one night.
It was one o'clock in the morning,

354
00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:26,947
and I think that it was about
6:00 in the morning for him.

355
00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:29,449
And we stayed on the phone
for three hours.

356
00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,618
Our conversation lasted three hours.

357
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,080
He was playing me some
of his original music over the phone.

358
00:23:35,163 --> 00:23:37,541
And then I was singing
to him over the phone.

359
00:23:37,624 --> 00:23:40,669
He said, "Listen, we really
should get together and write."

360
00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:43,672
"This could be a cool thing
'cause I love country music so much."

361
00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:47,175
He says, "I love your voice, and
I think it would be a cool combination."

362
00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:48,677
I didn't want to be

363
00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:50,720
too forward,

364
00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:52,722
but in my mind, I'm saying,

365
00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,808
"Oh, wow, if this guy…

366
00:23:56,059 --> 00:23:58,353
…made my music sound like that,

367
00:23:58,437 --> 00:23:59,938
that would be the dream. Like…

368
00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:01,606
whoa."

369
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:05,318
The first record that came out in 1993,
I think,

370
00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:08,530
um, we didn't do very well with it.

371
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:10,490
I think we put two singles,

372
00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:14,619
it went to 55 on the country chart,
or something like that.

373
00:24:15,203 --> 00:24:17,289
She was perceived as another, kind of,

374
00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,168
female country wannabe, you know?

375
00:24:21,668 --> 00:24:24,754
Lewis, the record label head,
was like, "We need to have lunch."

376
00:24:24,838 --> 00:24:27,716
"We need to talk about
what is going on here because

377
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,721
you could get dropped at this point
if you're not serious about this."

378
00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:36,850
"So you'd better prove to me that
you're doing something really awesome."

379
00:24:39,352 --> 00:24:40,562
So I said, "Okay."

380
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,774
"I'm working with this
rock producer named Mutt Lange."

381
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:48,737
Like, as if I had
to confess something.

382
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:51,406
It really felt like a confession, and…

383
00:24:54,034 --> 00:24:55,285
he was stunned.

384
00:24:56,786 --> 00:25:00,123
And said, like, probably,
"Holy fuck," or something like that.

385
00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:05,837
And then I think… I was… I'm thinking
it could be like, "Holy fuck… no way,"

386
00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:09,049
or "Holy fuck, that's incredible."

387
00:25:11,551 --> 00:25:13,720
Thankfully, he thought it was incredible.

388
00:25:13,803 --> 00:25:17,390
Mutt, he was one of my heroes.
The guy who produced Back in Black,

389
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:20,727
and Def Leppard and stuff.
Being a rock guy, I loved those things.

390
00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:24,648
I knew about him,
and I knew a bit of his history.

391
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:29,069
He was pretty well aware of country music
more than anybody probably knew.

392
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,072
And one, two, three…

393
00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:42,040
♪ Mind if I sit down?♪

394
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:46,086
♪ Can I buy you a round?♪

395
00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:51,341
♪ I haven't seen your face before ♪

396
00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:53,343
♪ Are you new in town?♪

397
00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:58,807
♪ It's the same old line♪

398
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:02,227
♪ Oh every time♪♪

399
00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:07,440
♪ Are you here alone?♪

400
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,150
♪ Can I take you home?♪

401
00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:13,822
The fact that I was now writing for
the purpose of recording my own music

402
00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:16,032
was the dream. That was the dream.

403
00:26:16,116 --> 00:26:18,243
That was the dream
that I went to Nashville

404
00:26:18,326 --> 00:26:20,870
hoping to find
and didn't find it right away.

405
00:26:24,332 --> 00:26:28,628
I was super motivated and very inspired.

406
00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:33,383
You know, all of a sudden, now
I've got Mutt, who's really into my ideas.

407
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:36,386
At the very end,
do you think you should just wait.

408
00:26:37,345 --> 00:26:40,432
Like, if I went, "I'm outta here." Beat.

409
00:26:40,515 --> 00:26:41,641
Just a beat between.

410
00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:44,352
We wrote the album very, very quickly.

411
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:47,939
During that whole process,
we got together and

412
00:26:48,023 --> 00:26:50,817
started a wonderful personal relationship.

413
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:54,029
So, to put it all in a nutshell,

414
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:55,905
we… we met,

415
00:26:56,573 --> 00:26:58,158
we fell in love,

416
00:26:59,242 --> 00:27:01,494
we're engaged, wrote an entire album,

417
00:27:02,245 --> 00:27:03,371
uh, all in six months.

418
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:06,458
And married
in that six months as well.

419
00:27:06,541 --> 00:27:10,253
So we did so much in a six-month period,
it was a very intense time for me.

420
00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:12,297
Mutt listened to her,

421
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:16,176
and then in turn knew how to make her

422
00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:21,973
louder. And knew how to bring out things
of her that she hadn't brought out yet.

423
00:27:22,557 --> 00:27:26,102
And so to find someone
that you trust with that,

424
00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:29,898
and that, you know,
not only isn't going to, like, judge you,

425
00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:31,691
but is going to help you shape it,

426
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:34,861
to make it great,
and make it unique, and make it you.

427
00:27:34,944 --> 00:27:37,822
That's why it's one of
the greatest partnerships in music.

428
00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:42,369
You hear Shania
be Shania with a megaphone.

429
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,914
♪ Whose bed have your boots been under?♪

430
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,546
♪ Whose bed have your boots been under?♪

431
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:57,092
And whose heart did you steal I wonder?

432
00:27:57,175 --> 00:28:02,013
♪ This time did it feel
Like thunder, baby? ♪

433
00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:05,975
♪ Whose bed have your boots been under?♪

434
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,854
I wanted to lead with "Any Man of Mine."

435
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:13,233
I wanted that to be the first single off
The Woman in Me album,

436
00:28:13,316 --> 00:28:15,068
but everybody else agreed that

437
00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:18,154
"Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under?"
would be the safest

438
00:28:18,238 --> 00:28:20,990
to lead with
because it was more country-sounding,

439
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:22,283
which was true.

440
00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:25,537
If I would've fought for it,
I would've got it.

441
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,622
They would have done it. I know.

442
00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:30,709
I wanted to kick the door down,
you know what I'm saying?

443
00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:32,794
I didn't want to just shuffle through it.

444
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:37,716
But I thought,
this is a deeper album than one song.

445
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,010
And I knew that when the public
heard "Any Man of Mine,"

446
00:28:41,094 --> 00:28:43,805
they would then get radio on side.

447
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:48,852
Proof is in the pudding, kind of thing.
I thought it was super strong.

448
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:53,898
♪ Woo♪

449
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:56,901
Yay!

450
00:28:58,570 --> 00:28:59,696
♪ Woo♪

451
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:05,118
♪ Any man of mine better be proud of me♪

452
00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:08,204
♪ Even when I'm ugly
He still better love me♪

453
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:11,166
♪ I can be late for a date that's fine♪

454
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:13,835
♪ But he better be on time♪

455
00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:17,380
♪ Well, any man of mine'll say
It fits just right ♪

456
00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:20,383
♪ When last year's dress
Is just a little too tight ♪

457
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:23,219
♪ Anything I do or say better be okay ♪

458
00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:25,555
♪ When I have a bad hair day♪

459
00:29:25,638 --> 00:29:27,515
If you do
what I've done in my life,

460
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,392
peddling records, basically,

461
00:29:29,976 --> 00:29:32,228
you know when you got one.

462
00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:35,231
You don't have to have golden ears or…

463
00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:37,233
be a genius.

464
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:38,943
You just know.

465
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:43,198
Enough so that I could go to my boss
in New York and say,

466
00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:46,910
"Hey, I'm going to spend more money
than you're comfortable with on this

467
00:29:46,993 --> 00:29:48,661
'cause I think we got a huge one."

468
00:29:49,245 --> 00:29:50,079
♪ Yeah ♪

469
00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:53,917
♪ Yeah, I like it that way ♪

470
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,128
♪ Any man of mine♪

471
00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,631
♪ Better walk the line♪

472
00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:02,133
♪ Better show me a teasin'… ♪

473
00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:03,468
She came to us…

474
00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:07,305
When I say us, my husband
who's deceased now, John Derek,

475
00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:12,977
um, was known for his photography,
especially when it came to women,

476
00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:14,729
and beautiful women.

477
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,899
I said, "We're gonna shoot this girl.
She sounds interesting."

478
00:30:17,982 --> 00:30:21,110
He said, "Is she beautiful?"
I said, "Yeah, she looks beautiful."

479
00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:25,406
♪ Woo♪

480
00:30:27,283 --> 00:30:29,035
♪ Well any man of mine better…♪

481
00:30:29,118 --> 00:30:33,039
His process was so unusual,
and a lot of girls couldn't take it.

482
00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:36,584
It was all about
getting the beauty for him.

483
00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:42,340
And he didn't pussyfoot and talk around,
trying not to hurt your feelings.

484
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:46,135
He would really cut to the chase
and say, "Uh, your nose is crooked."

485
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:50,348
"And now I got to change
all the lighting and the camera angle."

486
00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:54,686
If he were shooting me, he'd say, "Stop
that, you look like you're smelling shit,"

487
00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:57,355
or, "Your mouth looks
like a chicken's ass,"

488
00:30:57,438 --> 00:31:02,485
or, you know, whatever it is,
which would send some girls home crying.

489
00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:04,404
And I thought, "Okay…

490
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:07,949
you're going to have to get over this
and take it and move on

491
00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:10,702
'cause there's a job to do,
a video to make,

492
00:31:10,785 --> 00:31:12,078
and the sun is going down."

493
00:31:14,163 --> 00:31:16,541
♪ He's gotta be a heartbeatin'
Fine treatin' ♪

494
00:31:16,624 --> 00:31:21,129
♪ Breathtakin' earthquakin' kind♪

495
00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:26,092
♪ Any man of mine, woo♪

496
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:30,096
There was a funny moment
on this, when

497
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:34,851
John wanted her to do something kind of
hokey and corny and she didn't want to.

498
00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:38,354
We were nose-to-nose at one point,
arguing about this.

499
00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:40,315
He wasn't good at being told no.

500
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,692
She was great.
She really stood up for herself.

501
00:31:42,775 --> 00:31:44,986
And he could be a little difficult.

502
00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:48,489
I had a vision about
how I wanted it to look,

503
00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,325
and how I wanted to present myself.

504
00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:54,287
She said,
"This is my video. This is my money."

505
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:55,955
"I'm going to get what I want."

506
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,041
That was actually a tense moment.

507
00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:01,085
I thought he was going to leave
and quit the video at that point.

508
00:32:01,169 --> 00:32:04,213
Then he turned on the camera
and said, "You want it, you got it."

509
00:32:04,797 --> 00:32:07,550
He clicked the button and looked away.
He was such a brat.

510
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:11,679
♪ Any man of mine♪

511
00:32:12,972 --> 00:32:13,848
♪ Woo♪

512
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:16,601
He respected me from that moment on
more than I expected.

513
00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:19,812
And we had a wonderful friendship
after that.

514
00:32:20,396 --> 00:32:22,732
That's a lesson
it took me years to learn.

515
00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:24,359
That if you stand up for yourself,

516
00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:27,111
he'll fight you to the end
and then respect you more.

517
00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,114
It's not an accident
she became such a big star.

518
00:32:37,997 --> 00:32:40,583
I had a one-track mind
as far as my career went.

519
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:45,296
And as the label started
to realize that I was going to

520
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:47,590
go the extra mile to make this work,

521
00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:50,843
they did pull together
very hard and very well.

522
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:57,141
They were used to a different pace,
a different level of commitment.

523
00:32:57,225 --> 00:32:59,852
But I'm like, "This is do or die."

524
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:02,563
We're not going to eat
as much as we normally do,

525
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:05,233
we're not going to sleep
as much as we normally do.

526
00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:07,777
I'm still waking up. This isn't fair!

527
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:11,698
Hey, this is Shania Twain.
My new song is coming up soon,

528
00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:14,325
so keep it right here
on the KISS FM top 30…

529
00:33:14,409 --> 00:33:17,453
Hits don't make themselves.
Not consecutive ones.

530
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,873
And videos certainly
don't make themselves.

531
00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:22,959
So, it's just so much work.

532
00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:23,876
Bye!

533
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,587
I do remember Luke Lewis saying, "Listen…"

534
00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:29,882
"I think you should do
your next video in Egypt."

535
00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:32,010
"In Cairo, at the Great Pyramids."

536
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:34,595
I'm like, "What?"

537
00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:38,182
♪ Oh, yeah♪

538
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:42,437
I mean, this was a dream. It was surreal.

539
00:33:43,062 --> 00:33:44,313
That wasn't cheap.

540
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:48,735
I'm still pissed I didn't go.
I mean, you have no idea.

541
00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:53,239
They're riding horses around the pyramids,
and I'm at home, going,

542
00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:54,949
"What the fuck am I doing?"

543
00:33:55,033 --> 00:34:00,997
♪ 'Cause I'm a woman in love♪

544
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:08,379
♪ And it's you I run to♪

545
00:34:08,963 --> 00:34:11,382
♪ Yeah, the woman ♪

546
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,760
♪ In me♪

547
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:19,223
♪ Needs the man in you♪

548
00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:24,395
I'm telling you, this was
an experience I will never forget.

549
00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:28,232
I sensed that that was the beginning of

550
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:32,445
the chance to be truly competitive
on a global scale.

551
00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:34,822
There was no question.

552
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:38,201
There was absolutely not a doubt
in my mind that this album

553
00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,953
would change the face of country music.

554
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:42,622
And it did.

555
00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:44,457
It absolutely did.

556
00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:58,429
Well, Shania Twain is without a doubt
Canada's leading country music superstar.

557
00:34:59,013 --> 00:35:01,432
Is it exhausting, or is it exhilarating?

558
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:03,476
It's exhilarating! Hi!

559
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,145
Congratulations. That's yours.

560
00:35:08,022 --> 00:35:09,232
I'll take it!

561
00:35:10,691 --> 00:35:13,611
When The Woman in Me
album took off,

562
00:35:13,694 --> 00:35:16,989
there was a deep sense of accomplishment.

563
00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:18,491
It felt really good.

564
00:35:18,574 --> 00:35:20,576
I'm excited about the way it's moving.

565
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:23,162
It's, it's, uh…
It's not running away from me,

566
00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:25,915
but at the same time I'm thinking,
"Wow, slow down."

567
00:35:25,998 --> 00:35:28,793
"I just want to enjoy this a little bit."
You know?

568
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,713
Maybe because it's happening so fast,
I'm not absorbing it.

569
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,217
But it is the wildest thing, I gotta say.

570
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:37,969
It's the coolest thing.

571
00:35:39,971 --> 00:35:40,847
Hello.

572
00:35:41,347 --> 00:35:46,060
It's my first platinum party,
so I don't know what to expect.

573
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:49,272
Thank you all, again. This is really
special for us, I can't tell you.

574
00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:51,649
-Thank you for joining us here.
-Thank you!

575
00:35:51,732 --> 00:35:54,819
Tonight, Canada's country
sweetheart was given a diamond award

576
00:35:54,902 --> 00:35:56,362
for her country sales.

577
00:35:56,445 --> 00:35:59,448
Hot on the heels
of her Grammy win last week.

578
00:35:59,532 --> 00:36:01,534
But the awards don't stop there.

579
00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:06,080
The album of the year is,
The Woman in Me, Shania Twain!

580
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:09,417
Wow, I wasn't expecting that at all. Yes!

581
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,211
"Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under?"

582
00:36:12,295 --> 00:36:13,171
Shania Twain.

583
00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:14,755
"Any Man of Mine," Shania Twain!

584
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:16,215
-Shania Twain!
-Yes!

585
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:17,550
Shania Twain!

586
00:36:18,926 --> 00:36:21,596
I'd like to start with
the two people that have worked

587
00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:23,890
harder than anyone

588
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:27,226
to get me where I am today,

589
00:36:27,727 --> 00:36:29,187
and that are my parents.

590
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,898
They aren't with us anymore, but…

591
00:36:33,149 --> 00:36:36,194
…they sacrificed the most
to get me where I am today.

592
00:36:37,653 --> 00:36:39,405
Shania sold,

593
00:36:39,488 --> 00:36:43,618
in less than six months,
over six and a half million albums.

594
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,369
I mean, that is just…

595
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:49,207
unbelievable at that time.

596
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:50,291
Unbelievable.

597
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,127
I mean, it was like,

598
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,545
"Holy moly."

599
00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:57,632
You had to run to keep up.

600
00:36:57,715 --> 00:36:58,966
You had to run.

601
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,302
I'm overwhelmed, I can't tell you.

602
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:07,266
It just got to be too much.

603
00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:20,696
You know, I was alone so young,

604
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:26,077
and so I spent all of my twenties
with Mary as a guide in my life,

605
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,454
and on a personal level too.

606
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,916
So it makes it difficult to

607
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,795
say goodbye to an element
of your relationship,

608
00:37:36,837 --> 00:37:38,673
uh, which is what we were doing.

609
00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:41,259
But I also knew that I…

610
00:37:42,385 --> 00:37:45,263
That everything that even her and I
had worked together for,

611
00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:47,807
there was so much more to come of it.

612
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:49,767
I'm not even nearly there yet.

613
00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:53,020
It's great,
but it's only great for country.

614
00:37:53,854 --> 00:37:56,065
It's not great compared
to Michael Jackson.

615
00:37:56,148 --> 00:37:59,694
It's not great
compared to The Rolling Stones.

616
00:37:59,777 --> 00:38:02,989
I needed to go much further down the road.

617
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,544
She interviewed quite a few people,

618
00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:19,130
or a handful of people
when she was looking.

619
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,507
But when she asked me about Jon,

620
00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:26,178
I'd been at CBS forever and worked
Springsteen records from way back,

621
00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:27,888
from the first two records.

622
00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:30,349
And I'd seen him in action.

623
00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:35,062
She wanted somebody
who was a superstar manager,

624
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:37,064
and it turned out the reason why was

625
00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:40,443
she was planning on being a bigger
superstar than she was.

626
00:38:40,526 --> 00:38:43,779
We had to meet in person
and make sure that that was a click,

627
00:38:43,863 --> 00:38:47,450
but just the fact that,
even after the first reach out, he was

628
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:50,745
open to the idea,
really, really excited me.

629
00:38:51,912 --> 00:38:53,831
Well, we clicked right away.

630
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,042
And I said,

631
00:38:56,125 --> 00:39:00,963
"There is nothing we can add to what
you have done in the world of country."

632
00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:03,716
"But what do you really want?
What… How can we help?"

633
00:39:03,799 --> 00:39:06,344
So she said there were three things.

634
00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:08,346
She wanted to cross over to pop,

635
00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:13,392
she wanted to be
an international superstar,

636
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:19,023
and she wanted to be
an absolutely top touring artist.

637
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:24,528
Those three goals, clear as a bell,
first time I talked to her.

638
00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:25,863
And I said, "Well…"

639
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:28,866
"I think we can help there."

640
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:39,210
I was reminded by everyone,

641
00:39:39,293 --> 00:39:43,130
basically, that there was
a lot of money not being made

642
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:46,300
by not going on tour
after The Woman in Me was out.

643
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:48,677
She left a lot of money on the table.

644
00:39:48,761 --> 00:39:50,679
She could have gone out behind that record

645
00:39:50,763 --> 00:39:52,890
and spent another two years
touring behind it.

646
00:39:52,973 --> 00:39:57,103
I knew that getting out
on the road was only going to

647
00:39:57,186 --> 00:40:00,189
distract me from writing better songs.

648
00:40:00,272 --> 00:40:04,819
I'm thinking, I need to use this time.

649
00:40:05,861 --> 00:40:06,904
Reflect.

650
00:40:06,987 --> 00:40:07,988
Write more songs.

651
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,992
I can't even say that I was right about
that decision. It was just a risk,

652
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,494
but it was strategic.

653
00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:17,790
I had to get busy writing
enough hits that,

654
00:40:17,873 --> 00:40:23,921
on the next album, I would be able
to do a whole concert of all my own songs.

655
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:35,766
♪ You're so complicated♪

656
00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:40,479
♪ You hang over my shoulder
When I read my mail♪

657
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:43,566
♪ I don't appreciate it♪

658
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:45,860
♪ When I talk to other guys♪

659
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,487
♪ You think they're on my tail♪

660
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:55,244
♪ I get so aggravated♪

661
00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:57,955
♪ When I get off the phone♪

662
00:40:58,038 --> 00:40:59,790
♪ And I get the third degree♪

663
00:40:59,874 --> 00:41:03,252
♪ I'm really feelin' frustrated♪

664
00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:05,296
♪ Why don't you take a pill?♪

665
00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:07,423
♪ And put a little trust in me♪

666
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:08,466
♪ And you'll see♪

667
00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:10,926
That sounds a lot, a lot better. Yeah.

668
00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:12,887
Oh, yeah. A lot better. Sounds great.

669
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:14,472
♪ Relax♪

670
00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:17,683
When it just feels great?

671
00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:22,062
Thank you!

672
00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:30,237
I could sense that
there was an energy stirring.

673
00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:33,741
♪ I don't need a shrink
To tell me what to think♪

674
00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:36,327
♪ There ain't no missing link
In my love life♪

675
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:37,912
♪ It's all right ♪

676
00:41:38,412 --> 00:41:40,831
♪ Huh, I ain't that uptight♪

677
00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:43,792
I did a lot of the melody writing
on my own, and then…

678
00:41:43,876 --> 00:41:46,962
It was really a tag team thing,
to be honest, I mean.

679
00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:50,758
We'd both sit there with our guitars
and jam around the chord progressions.

680
00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:54,178
He always kept ledgers of lyrics,

681
00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:57,306
so it was loaded with
all kinds of really cool lyrics.

682
00:41:57,389 --> 00:41:59,600
I would feed off those ideas.

683
00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:04,230
I would come up with these one-liners
and then just carry on telling the story.

684
00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:06,815
♪ So I'm holdin' on♪

685
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:08,067
♪ I'm feelin' strong♪

686
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:12,863
♪ Baby, you're the one for all my life♪

687
00:42:12,947 --> 00:42:14,657
How was that, Mutt?

688
00:42:16,242 --> 00:42:18,285
Okay, one more time.

689
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,955
♪ … All my life♪

690
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:24,041
Shania Twain is an incredibly
hard worker,

691
00:42:24,124 --> 00:42:27,378
and a wonderful artist,
wonderful songwriter.

692
00:42:30,631 --> 00:42:32,716
Close, but no cigar.

693
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,305
I just kind of see her as an all-around
human being, person-wise, you know?

694
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:42,935
She's down-to-earth, but, yet,
when she comes into a room

695
00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:45,145
she kind of draws everybody's attention.

696
00:42:46,438 --> 00:42:49,108
"Wow, she's… She looks like a star."

697
00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:54,196
Look at him. You gotta feel it, man.
You gotta be like…

698
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,865
I really tried hard on that one.

699
00:42:56,949 --> 00:42:59,034
- I swear, man.
- That was hysterical!

700
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,619
I know I rushed it too.

701
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,336
One night, we were both
in New York City together,

702
00:43:10,004 --> 00:43:11,797
and they sat there,

703
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,258
and they had a boombox

704
00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:17,469
with all the tracks
for what became Come on Over.

705
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:20,055
And they sang it to me right there.

706
00:43:20,556 --> 00:43:22,016
They played the track.

707
00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:23,142
She would sing.

708
00:43:23,225 --> 00:43:26,228
Mutt sings the harmonies,
which he does a lot on the records.

709
00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:27,771
They went through the whole album.

710
00:43:28,355 --> 00:43:30,357
♪ From this moment on ♪

711
00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:33,777
♪ I have been blessed ♪

712
00:43:33,861 --> 00:43:37,406
♪ I live only♪

713
00:43:38,198 --> 00:43:40,826
♪ For your happiness♪

714
00:43:40,909 --> 00:43:43,370
♪ And for your love♪

715
00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:47,374
♪ I'd give my last breath ♪

716
00:43:47,458 --> 00:43:53,130
♪ From this moment on♪

717
00:43:54,214 --> 00:43:57,051
I was shaking, 'cause…

718
00:43:57,134 --> 00:43:58,135
Two things.

719
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,430
This is fabulous music.

720
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:03,265
This cannot miss.

721
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:05,809
Cannot miss, okay?

722
00:44:06,435 --> 00:44:08,854
To my ear, and I'm pretty good at this,

723
00:44:09,521 --> 00:44:10,981
every song was a hit.

724
00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:14,234
It was just
as simple as that, you know?

725
00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:17,821
So, uh, we started to roll.

726
00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:19,198
We started to roll.

727
00:44:22,451 --> 00:44:23,535
♪ Hm…♪

728
00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:29,333
♪ Ah…♪

729
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,802
♪ Life was going great
Love was gonna have to wait♪

730
00:44:39,885 --> 00:44:41,470
♪ Was in no hurry♪

731
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:47,101
Shania Twain's last album sold
more than 12 million copies worldwide.

732
00:44:47,643 --> 00:44:51,939
This is the first single off
her new CD, called Come On Over.

733
00:44:52,022 --> 00:44:54,775
This album is much more directly
what I really think and feel,

734
00:44:54,858 --> 00:44:56,110
and how I would say things.

735
00:44:56,193 --> 00:45:00,155
I think that happened because I wanted
to take a very conversational approach.

736
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,616
♪ Gol' darn gone and done it ♪

737
00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:04,535
♪ Gone and done it♪

738
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:06,412
♪ Gone and done it♪

739
00:45:06,995 --> 00:45:08,330
♪ Guess I fell in love♪

740
00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:12,501
If you're expecting a
collection of slow-paced cowboy ballads,

741
00:45:12,584 --> 00:45:14,628
you won't find them on this disc,

742
00:45:14,712 --> 00:45:18,674
but you will find lots of love songs
and songs about relationships.

743
00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:24,179
Well, what changed between
The Woman in Me and Come on Over,

744
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:25,931
really more than anything,

745
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:27,057
the intention.

746
00:45:27,141 --> 00:45:33,105
And the intention was to now
graduate from a domestic success

747
00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:35,607
to a global success.

748
00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:42,614
And that was going to mean making
the music move more into a poppier sound.

749
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:52,332
♪ Looks like we made it♪

750
00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:56,336
♪ Look how far we've come my baby♪

751
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,590
♪ We mighta took the long way♪

752
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:00,966
♪ We knew… ♪

753
00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:04,636
Putting out "You're Still the One,"
I remember thinking

754
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,555
this is a big risk.

755
00:46:06,638 --> 00:46:09,475
This will be the first
ballad off this album,

756
00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:12,352
and my biggest hits so far
have been upbeat.

757
00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:15,230
And I knew it was
a make-it-or-break-it moment.

758
00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:19,693
I thought, if this as a ballad
doesn't work,

759
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:22,654
I thought that could be
that could be it, you know.

760
00:46:23,655 --> 00:46:25,240
♪ You're still the one♪

761
00:46:25,324 --> 00:46:28,410
♪ You're still the one I run to♪

762
00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:32,039
♪ The one that I belong to♪

763
00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:37,127
♪ You're still the one I want for life♪

764
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:39,463
♪ You're still the one♪

765
00:46:39,546 --> 00:46:42,883
♪ You're still the one that I love♪

766
00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:46,386
♪ The only one I dream of♪

767
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:52,100
♪ You're still the one I kiss goodnight♪

768
00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:57,773
It was a powerful song
that people bonded to…

769
00:46:58,941 --> 00:47:00,359
and reminisced to.

770
00:47:00,442 --> 00:47:05,614
And yeah, I can't say that I realized
how powerful that… And how…

771
00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:08,367
attached people would become to…

772
00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:11,161
to the meaning
of that song in their lives.

773
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:16,041
"You're Still the One"
applies very much to…

774
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:18,836
to my life,

775
00:47:19,378 --> 00:47:20,212
Uh…

776
00:47:20,754 --> 00:47:22,130
in the sense that I think…

777
00:47:23,131 --> 00:47:26,468
my marriage,
my relationship with my husband,

778
00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:30,264
was something that I think,
most people thought was unlikely

779
00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:32,808
or unlikely to succeed.

780
00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:36,812
Well, when I wrote the song,
I was thinking, uh…

781
00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:40,774
the age gap between Mutt and I,
the world gap, the culture gap.

782
00:47:41,441 --> 00:47:46,405
And I really did feel that
a lot of people didn't believe… in it.

783
00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:50,617
Um, I… I sensed that in interviews
journalists would

784
00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:54,913
refer to him as a Svengali and,
you know, how could all of this

785
00:47:55,497 --> 00:47:56,874
phenomenal stuff

786
00:47:56,957 --> 00:47:59,084
come out of this girl from nowhere?

787
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:01,086
I guess they just didn't believe it.

788
00:48:01,169 --> 00:48:03,839
There have been
a lot of questions lately about how much

789
00:48:03,922 --> 00:48:07,384
you owe your success
to the way he packaged you.

790
00:48:07,467 --> 00:48:08,719
How do you respond to that?

791
00:48:08,802 --> 00:48:11,179
It's a real partnership between
you and your husband.

792
00:48:11,263 --> 00:48:15,767
Tell us about that relationship,
and how he helps you with your career.

793
00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:18,186
Of course, if I had been a guy,

794
00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:20,606
it just would not have
been seen the same way.

795
00:48:20,689 --> 00:48:22,566
It's a sexist point of view.

796
00:48:22,649 --> 00:48:24,484
There's no question about it.

797
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:27,779
You can't take away
his contribution for a minute.

798
00:48:27,863 --> 00:48:29,489
You know? Not for a minute.

799
00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:34,620
But, listen,
it was collaborative from the get-go.

800
00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:38,165
And I think he would…
If you could get him to speak to it,

801
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:41,209
and I don't know that he ever would,
he would say the same thing.

802
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,587
Creating another great work,

803
00:48:44,463 --> 00:48:46,882
to me, was the proof in the pudding

804
00:48:47,674 --> 00:48:51,970
that this was just a really genuine
and authentic relationship

805
00:48:52,054 --> 00:48:55,515
that had nothing fake
or strained about it.

806
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:01,313
♪ Look how far we've come my baby♪

807
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:07,152
Well, "You're Still the One"
was rising like a rocket.

808
00:49:07,235 --> 00:49:09,237
I mean, that song was a pop hit.

809
00:49:09,738 --> 00:49:13,033
But there was another fact
with Shania, which is

810
00:49:13,992 --> 00:49:18,121
her creative sense,
visually, was spectacular.

811
00:49:18,705 --> 00:49:22,793
And so when you make a single,
you make a video.

812
00:49:23,585 --> 00:49:26,672
And the videos were dynamite.

813
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,844
♪ Aw♪

814
00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:36,348
I used to always watch her videos
and just thought she was awesome.

815
00:49:36,431 --> 00:49:39,768
She was one of the few artists
that was able to really cross over on…

816
00:49:39,851 --> 00:49:42,020
She had some of her videos
on MTV 2 as well,

817
00:49:42,104 --> 00:49:44,982
not just only on CMT
on the Country Countdown,

818
00:49:45,065 --> 00:49:47,442
but she was
an artist that really crossed over,

819
00:49:47,526 --> 00:49:49,152
and, uh, she was beautiful.

820
00:49:49,903 --> 00:49:52,531
Everybody wanted her
to be their girlfriend.

821
00:49:52,614 --> 00:49:55,993
She was, like, the…
America's most wanted female.

822
00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:58,036
You know, with all her videos,

823
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,332
uh, we had great directors,
and when it was done with the shoot,

824
00:50:02,416 --> 00:50:04,418
she would just say,
"Send the footage to me."

825
00:50:04,501 --> 00:50:06,086
She edited them all herself.

826
00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:07,963
She knew what she wanted.

827
00:50:08,797 --> 00:50:10,465
♪ You think you're special ♪

828
00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:15,220
♪ You think you're something else♪

829
00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:17,305
♪ Okay, so you're a rocket scientist♪

830
00:50:17,889 --> 00:50:20,225
♪ That don't impress me much♪

831
00:50:20,308 --> 00:50:24,646
With music videos, I'm always trying
to do something new and different.

832
00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:27,232
I like stepping into different personas,

833
00:50:27,315 --> 00:50:29,526
but they've always gotta work for me.

834
00:50:30,444 --> 00:50:31,278
So…

835
00:50:32,404 --> 00:50:35,282
I guess I start with
just how I want to look.

836
00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:38,827
♪ That don't impress me much ♪

837
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:42,664
I would always gravitate toward
the leopard print, in any color.

838
00:50:42,748 --> 00:50:44,332
Oh, and I wanted midriff.

839
00:50:45,083 --> 00:50:46,710
It had to have midriff, this video.

840
00:50:47,294 --> 00:50:50,338
I wanted it to be kind of sporty-sexy.

841
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:51,423
Glam.

842
00:50:51,506 --> 00:50:54,718
I know that Shania loved leopard,
and I loved leopard print myself.

843
00:50:54,801 --> 00:50:58,513
So, we decided to do
a complete leopard look.

844
00:50:58,597 --> 00:51:00,140
She used fashion,

845
00:51:00,223 --> 00:51:03,894
and clothing, and costumes
very much to her benefit,

846
00:51:03,977 --> 00:51:05,771
because she created,

847
00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:09,066
you know,
some of the most iconic looks ever.

848
00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:11,151
♪ Okay, so you're Brad Pitt♪

849
00:51:11,234 --> 00:51:13,612
♪ That don't impress me much♪

850
00:51:15,781 --> 00:51:20,202
She really played with
fashion in music videos,

851
00:51:20,285 --> 00:51:24,498
and she really played with being
confident in her body as a woman.

852
00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:28,168
The way that she owns
her own sexuality in that video

853
00:51:28,251 --> 00:51:29,795
is very feminist.

854
00:51:29,878 --> 00:51:34,424
You know, it was Shania walking
through this expanse in the desert,

855
00:51:34,508 --> 00:51:39,054
addressing the entire,
sort of, patriarchy, I guess,

856
00:51:39,137 --> 00:51:42,682
but in a way that
didn't feel heavily politicized

857
00:51:42,766 --> 00:51:44,267
or angry.

858
00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:46,520
It was… It was celebratory.

859
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:50,273
♪ You're one of those guys
That likes to shine his machine ♪

860
00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:54,194
♪ You'll make me take off my shoes
Before you let me get in ♪

861
00:51:54,778 --> 00:51:56,738
For some reason, during that time,

862
00:51:56,822 --> 00:51:59,699
I don't know,
I just enjoyed singing with attitude,

863
00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:03,078
singing about being a strong woman.

864
00:52:03,161 --> 00:52:06,498
It's part of my personality.
It really is my genuine personality.

865
00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:08,708
So, I have my point of view,

866
00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:10,961
I want to get it across.

867
00:52:11,044 --> 00:52:12,921
I expect to get it across,

868
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:17,425
but I am not out to piss anybody off
in the process.

869
00:52:17,509 --> 00:52:20,595
♪ That don't impress me… ♪

870
00:52:22,347 --> 00:52:25,809
So, to me, Shania Twain
is an epic country singer.

871
00:52:25,892 --> 00:52:27,811
Her songs are relatable.

872
00:52:27,894 --> 00:52:28,895
She writes.

873
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:33,817
She writes about being a woman
from a woman's perspective.

874
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,904
You know, anything from, like,
being the one, to having a bad hair day,

875
00:52:37,988 --> 00:52:40,615
to a dress not fitting, to…

876
00:52:40,699 --> 00:52:43,160
needing a cold one
after a hard day of work,

877
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,246
which is something I can relate to.

878
00:52:46,746 --> 00:52:53,086
I think that Shania takes
these universal ideas of love,

879
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:55,005
and of confidence,

880
00:52:55,088 --> 00:52:57,465
and of discovering
who you are as a young woman,

881
00:52:57,549 --> 00:53:01,636
and of the push and pull of bad days
and good days in life,

882
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:05,599
and all these things that are
universal topics for songwriting,

883
00:53:05,682 --> 00:53:09,144
and she makes them sound like
they've never been written about before.

884
00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:12,898
There's something about, like…
Of course, there's all these songs

885
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,151
about feeling good as an empowered woman,

886
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,571
but then there's
"Man! I Feel Like a Woman!"

887
00:53:19,654 --> 00:53:23,033
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just, that's the song.

888
00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:26,953
♪ Let's go, girls ♪

889
00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:30,999
♪ Come on♪

890
00:53:34,169 --> 00:53:37,589
Shania Twain brought
a rebel spirit to the genre

891
00:53:37,672 --> 00:53:40,342
that hadn't existed
for a couple of decades.

892
00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:44,304
Even just the fun of that line,
"Let's go, girls,"

893
00:53:44,387 --> 00:53:46,139
that's her rallying cry.

894
00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:47,349
Like, come join me.

895
00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:48,767
Come be part of my gang.

896
00:53:48,850 --> 00:53:50,936
Come do things the way that I do things.

897
00:53:51,019 --> 00:53:54,147
Don't be shamed into
not expressing yourself

898
00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:57,234
because you're a beautiful woman
who might be too much for someone.

899
00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:01,696
♪ Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy♪

900
00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:03,531
♪ Forget I'm a lady♪

901
00:54:03,615 --> 00:54:06,034
♪ Men's shirts, short skirts♪

902
00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:07,702
♪ Oh, oh, oh♪

903
00:54:07,786 --> 00:54:09,704
♪ Really go wild, yeah♪

904
00:54:09,788 --> 00:54:11,915
♪ Doin' it in style ♪

905
00:54:11,998 --> 00:54:15,210
Well, "Man! I Feel Like a Woman!"
is pretty self-explanatory

906
00:54:15,293 --> 00:54:17,420
in the sense that it's…

907
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,299
It's obviously and expression,
you know, "Man!"

908
00:54:21,925 --> 00:54:24,552
"It's great to be a woman today. Now."

909
00:54:26,513 --> 00:54:29,307
♪ Man! I feel like a woman♪

910
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:34,562
So it's really just
a celebration song. It's…

911
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:38,400
I hate to come from
the angry feminist standpoint

912
00:54:38,483 --> 00:54:40,568
when I write about these things.

913
00:54:41,152 --> 00:54:46,241
And I like to have fun with the fact that,
"Yeah, um, I like to write about…"

914
00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:50,370
I wouldn't say the battle of the sexes,
but I like to write about

915
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,706
the differences
and the fun in the differences.

916
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:55,041
So this is just
one of those songs, and so…

917
00:54:55,125 --> 00:54:57,460
Hey, it's great to be, uh, a woman today

918
00:54:57,544 --> 00:55:00,839
and raise your voice
and have some fun doing it.

919
00:55:04,259 --> 00:55:07,220
Yeah! With the spiral and everything.

920
00:55:18,732 --> 00:55:20,066
♪ The car won't start♪

921
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:21,443
♪ It's falling apart♪

922
00:55:21,526 --> 00:55:24,612
♪ I was late for work
And the boss got smart ♪

923
00:55:25,196 --> 00:55:29,159
She's one of the top female artists
in country and pop,

924
00:55:29,242 --> 00:55:31,703
and Shania Twain
isn't slowing down at all.

925
00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:32,996
In fairness…

926
00:55:34,622 --> 00:55:35,832
there were a lot of hits.

927
00:55:35,915 --> 00:55:38,710
We just had the hits.
The hits just kept on coming.

928
00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:42,881
We would have stopped
if we were not succeeding, you know?

929
00:55:42,964 --> 00:55:44,466
I mean, it just kept rolling.

930
00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:48,219
♪ Hey, hey…♪

931
00:55:50,180 --> 00:55:52,015
♪ Honey, I'm home… ♪

932
00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:54,309
I don't know that
there's that many albums to have

933
00:55:54,392 --> 00:55:56,394
that many hit songs on them.

934
00:55:57,479 --> 00:56:00,273
I'm pretty sure we charted 12 singles.

935
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:06,863
That's a lot of great songs on one record.
That's a good deal if you're a consumer.

936
00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:09,407
You know? That's a really good deal.

937
00:56:09,491 --> 00:56:10,909
It's a better album.

938
00:56:11,701 --> 00:56:12,952
Come On Over.

939
00:56:13,036 --> 00:56:14,871
The Woman in Me's a great album.

940
00:56:14,954 --> 00:56:16,539
Come On Over is so…

941
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:20,668
You know, is once in a lifetime.

942
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,134
♪ That feels much better♪

943
00:56:30,095 --> 00:56:32,931
She desperately wanted to go on tour

944
00:56:33,014 --> 00:56:35,100
because there'd been that undercurrent

945
00:56:35,183 --> 00:56:37,602
because she hadn't toured
on The Woman In Me,

946
00:56:37,685 --> 00:56:40,313
you know, "Can she really do it?"
etcetera, etcetera…

947
00:56:43,191 --> 00:56:44,567
♪ Cool♪

948
00:56:49,572 --> 00:56:52,826
Well, because I had waited
quite a long time to tour,

949
00:56:52,909 --> 00:56:55,912
I felt the pressure to make this great.

950
00:56:55,995 --> 00:56:59,416
♪ You're so complicated ♪

951
00:56:59,499 --> 00:57:01,501
She was not only ready to tour,

952
00:57:01,584 --> 00:57:03,420
she knew she had to tour,

953
00:57:03,503 --> 00:57:06,506
and she had tremendous
confidence in herself.

954
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:10,510
You know, at that point if she had
gone out and it wasn't, like, first-class,

955
00:57:10,593 --> 00:57:14,013
knocked-out show,
she would have taken some shit.

956
00:57:15,265 --> 00:57:18,351
I wasn't worried about being able
to prove that I could do it.

957
00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:21,146
I'd been singing all my life,
and singing in bars is

958
00:57:21,229 --> 00:57:25,400
way more taxing on your voice
than singing two hours in a show.

959
00:57:25,483 --> 00:57:29,195
Then, of course, once she got out there,
they realize, "She can actually sing."

960
00:57:29,279 --> 00:57:31,489
So, uh, all that was put to rest.

961
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:33,825
♪ Don't be stupid♪

962
00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:36,202
♪ You know I love you♪

963
00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:38,455
♪ Don't be ridiculous♪

964
00:57:39,038 --> 00:57:42,500
The band that she put together
was so world class,

965
00:57:43,001 --> 00:57:46,421
and now we're just hitting
home runs every night, every night.

966
00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:49,299
♪ Oh, no, no♪

967
00:57:49,382 --> 00:57:52,343
♪ I'm mad about you♪

968
00:57:53,094 --> 00:57:57,223
♪ I can't live without you♪

969
00:57:57,307 --> 00:58:00,435
♪ I'm crazy 'bout you♪

970
00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:01,936
♪ Don't be stupid♪

971
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:04,981
♪ You know I love you♪

972
00:58:05,064 --> 00:58:08,151
You've come a long way, baby.

973
00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,445
You're going even further,
so there you go.

974
00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:17,452
It was monstrous and worldwide.

975
00:58:17,535 --> 00:58:20,288
We made it over to Australia.
We were in Canada.

976
00:58:20,371 --> 00:58:21,456
We made it to Europe.

977
00:58:21,539 --> 00:58:24,918
You're massive in America,
you're conquering Europe,

978
00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:27,295
a lot of our listeners
are in Asia and Africa.

979
00:58:27,378 --> 00:58:29,797
What are your plans
for those two continents?

980
00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:30,924
I plan on going there.

981
00:58:31,007 --> 00:58:32,884
This was just non-stop.

982
00:58:32,967 --> 00:58:33,885
Woo!

983
00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:38,848
♪ This country♪

984
00:58:38,932 --> 00:58:41,142
♪ Right outta this world♪

985
00:58:41,768 --> 00:58:43,269
♪ Ah-ooh♪

986
00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:46,105
Recognition comes
in a lot of different ways.

987
00:58:46,898 --> 00:58:51,694
She'd been recognized
by this enormous audience,

988
00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:55,240
that span all of country and all of pop.

989
00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:58,660
When you get such
a unanimous response over something,

990
00:58:58,743 --> 00:59:02,789
and it's positive,
and it's even healing to a lot of people,

991
00:59:02,872 --> 00:59:04,249
now you're like, "Whoa!"

992
00:59:04,332 --> 00:59:06,668
That's a moment when you're like,
"Gee, like…"

993
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:11,631
"I didn't realize how much impact
this lyric could have."

994
00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:14,133
"Or that expression could have."

995
00:59:14,217 --> 00:59:17,345
It's not about the numbers anymore.
It's really more about

996
00:59:17,428 --> 00:59:19,180
the effect you're having on people.

997
00:59:23,726 --> 00:59:25,645
Are you ready, Miami?

998
00:59:25,728 --> 00:59:28,690
It was really clear just from fan feedback

999
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:30,567
that the fans…

1000
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:32,527
You know, the fans were so diverse.

1001
00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:36,823
There was no one type of Shania Twain fan.

1002
00:59:36,906 --> 00:59:39,117
I'm speaking to kids.

1003
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,910
-Do you like to sing?
-Uh-huh.

1004
00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:43,871
-Uh-huh.
-And what do you like to sing?

1005
00:59:44,372 --> 00:59:45,582
I don't know.

1006
00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:49,168
I'm speaking to parents.
I'm speaking to grandparents.

1007
00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:54,299
I'm speaking to people that were already
hearing about me from other countries.

1008
00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:58,177
Um, people from all walks of life, really.

1009
01:00:04,642 --> 01:00:08,271
There's a reason why Shania
also has a huge LGBTQ following

1010
01:00:08,354 --> 01:00:12,233
because anyone that sees that level
of confidence and self-ownership,

1011
01:00:12,317 --> 01:00:15,903
and comes from a place
of struggle and oppression, is, um…

1012
01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:18,197
is completely turned on by that.

1013
01:00:21,743 --> 01:00:24,078
Because that is their permission to do…

1014
01:00:24,162 --> 01:00:27,707
to flaunt it in exactly
the same way as Shania does.

1015
01:00:30,168 --> 01:00:32,837
I think one of the reasons
Shania does have a huge following

1016
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,715
with the LGBTQ+ community

1017
01:00:35,798 --> 01:00:39,385
is because of her costuming,
and the things that she wore

1018
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:42,722
because that particular community,
which I'm part of,

1019
01:00:42,805 --> 01:00:44,724
totally relates to image.

1020
01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:49,270
I mean, from Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz
to Shania Twain,

1021
01:00:49,354 --> 01:00:52,357
is these striking images
that are memorable.

1022
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,442
These are the things that we retain.

1023
01:00:54,525 --> 01:00:56,569
These are the things that we love.

1024
01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:58,988
You know, I've always said that I think

1025
01:00:59,530 --> 01:01:01,991
country music, just in general,

1026
01:01:02,075 --> 01:01:05,161
it's always surprised me
that there haven't been more

1027
01:01:05,244 --> 01:01:07,914
openly gay country musicians.

1028
01:01:08,831 --> 01:01:13,086
Because I think at the heart of it,
country music is about

1029
01:01:13,169 --> 01:01:15,630
disappointment, heartbreak,

1030
01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:19,425
uh, feelings of inadequacy,
feelings of loss.

1031
01:01:19,509 --> 01:01:22,595
And, you know, that is, sadly,
kind of the gay experience

1032
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,847
for everyone at some point.

1033
01:01:24,931 --> 01:01:28,393
I mean, definitely,
it was for me for… for a long time.

1034
01:01:28,476 --> 01:01:33,356
And I think when you can
find a musician who

1035
01:01:33,439 --> 01:01:35,233
can tap into that, and

1036
01:01:36,317 --> 01:01:38,277
write a song that speaks to that,

1037
01:01:38,945 --> 01:01:42,448
and also do it in a way that is

1038
01:01:43,324 --> 01:01:47,161
colorful and camp and playful,

1039
01:01:47,245 --> 01:01:51,082
and even humorous, like,
even laughing at one's self,

1040
01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:54,544
I think that is also a very important

1041
01:01:55,795 --> 01:01:57,714
experience of gay culture as well.

1042
01:01:57,797 --> 01:02:00,925
She reached through the stereo
and made me feel

1043
01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:04,095
I guess safe when I was,
like, a young kid.

1044
01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,727
At the top
of entertainment tonight…

1045
01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:14,272
Shania Twain is one of
the best-selling female singers ever.

1046
01:02:14,355 --> 01:02:17,275
She and her husband,
Robert Mutt Lange live in Switzerland,

1047
01:02:17,358 --> 01:02:19,444
where they're working on her fourth album.

1048
01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:22,530
It's not known how far along
Shania is in her pregnancy.

1049
01:02:22,613 --> 01:02:23,698
She's 35.

1050
01:02:23,781 --> 01:02:26,159
We're going to take another quick break…

1051
01:02:26,951 --> 01:02:28,828
I'd always wanted to be a mother,

1052
01:02:28,911 --> 01:02:33,583
and there was a long gap between
the Come On Over album and the Up! album,

1053
01:02:33,666 --> 01:02:34,625
so…

1054
01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:37,170
I had time to focus on having a baby

1055
01:02:37,253 --> 01:02:40,548
and resting after so many years
of hard work.

1056
01:02:41,924 --> 01:02:46,763
You have to put everything else aside
in order to build a career,

1057
01:02:46,846 --> 01:02:49,390
and I never wanted to be a mother that was

1058
01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:52,894
absent and distracted by career.

1059
01:02:52,977 --> 01:02:56,022
Career could never
come first over my child.

1060
01:02:56,731 --> 01:02:58,149
Do you sing lullabies for him?

1061
01:02:58,232 --> 01:02:59,317
I do.

1062
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,027
Could you please sing a little one?

1063
01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:03,529
Okay, I'm going to sing you
my own lullaby…

1064
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:05,490
-Yeah?
-…that I made up for him.

1065
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,742
Okay, his name is Eja,

1066
01:03:08,242 --> 01:03:09,702
Eja D'Angelo,

1067
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:13,039
so it's Eja D, I always call him, so…
It goes…

1068
01:03:13,748 --> 01:03:19,754
♪ Eja D, can you count to one,
Two, three? ♪

1069
01:03:19,837 --> 01:03:26,803
♪ Isn't anybody as lovely
As my Eja D♪

1070
01:03:27,595 --> 01:03:28,513
Wow!

1071
01:03:34,769 --> 01:03:38,314
I didn't spend as much time in
the studio during the making of Up!

1072
01:03:38,397 --> 01:03:42,735
because I had Eja, I was nursing,
I nursed, you know, for 14 months.

1073
01:03:43,611 --> 01:03:46,155
And when he would
finally go down at night,

1074
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:48,616
then I would go into the studio
and do vocals.

1075
01:03:48,699 --> 01:03:51,994
I'd have about four hours
once he was sleeping.

1076
01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:57,375
Of course, you know,
Mutt was the stronghold in the studio.

1077
01:03:58,334 --> 01:04:01,838
Made everything happen
around my availability.

1078
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:06,008
And now, you know, he's a dad,
so he's sensitive to it as well.

1079
01:04:06,592 --> 01:04:10,012
It was all to, um, our advantage
to be going through that

1080
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,807
together and trying to balance everything.

1081
01:04:19,981 --> 01:04:21,107
♪ Let's go ♪

1082
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,446
♪ Mmm… ♪

1083
01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:30,575
♪ Don't want you for the weekend♪

1084
01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:34,245
♪ Don't want you for a night♪

1085
01:04:35,955 --> 01:04:39,500
The intention was to stay very positive,
hence the title Up!

1086
01:04:40,585 --> 01:04:45,089
The goal was to write songs that would
keep carrying me, basically, as an artist,

1087
01:04:45,172 --> 01:04:47,508
and that wouldn't just all fall away,

1088
01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:51,304
which is, I'm sure what everybody
would have maybe expected.

1089
01:04:51,804 --> 01:04:55,349
Very few people have
three diamond albums in a row, so…

1090
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:59,729
Uh, that was… It wasn't a pressure,
but it was certainly the goal.

1091
01:04:59,812 --> 01:05:04,066
♪ So don't try to run, honey♪

1092
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:07,153
♪ Love can be fun♪

1093
01:05:07,236 --> 01:05:11,115
Listen, how many artists
have followed huge records

1094
01:05:11,198 --> 01:05:14,410
with one more, much less two more?
Know what I mean?

1095
01:05:15,536 --> 01:05:18,789
♪ I'm gonna getcha
While I got you in sight ♪

1096
01:05:19,457 --> 01:05:23,252
♪ I'm gonna getcha if it takes all night♪

1097
01:05:23,336 --> 01:05:27,048
The fact that it ended up being
the third diamond album

1098
01:05:27,131 --> 01:05:31,928
was just a great, awesome,
rewarding feeling.

1099
01:05:32,011 --> 01:05:37,058
It was obviously a, you know,
highlight achievement in my career,

1100
01:05:37,141 --> 01:05:39,143
and I knew that it was for anyone.

1101
01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:43,022
You know, there were three versions
of it released at the same time.

1102
01:05:43,105 --> 01:05:44,565
That was very exciting.

1103
01:05:44,649 --> 01:05:48,527
There was obviously a country version,
which we call the green version,

1104
01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,780
the red version, called the pop version,

1105
01:05:50,863 --> 01:05:53,366
and then a blue version,
which was international,

1106
01:05:53,449 --> 01:05:55,660
which had never
been done before, honestly.

1107
01:05:55,743 --> 01:05:59,580
And I just found it so, like,
inspiring and pretty clever.

1108
01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:05,544
The video making was also
getting, for me, more fun.

1109
01:06:05,628 --> 01:06:08,547
All these enormous looks
that came along with it.

1110
01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:12,051
The motorcycle video, which was one
of the most expensive videos of all time

1111
01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:13,052
at that time.

1112
01:06:16,722 --> 01:06:18,224
I feel like it was a home run.

1113
01:06:18,307 --> 01:06:21,519
I mean, we had a lot
of hit songs off that album.

1114
01:06:24,146 --> 01:06:27,441
All right, Chicago!

1115
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:37,410
♪ Up, up, up, can only go up from here

1116
01:06:37,493 --> 01:06:40,705
♪ Up, up, up, up
Where the clouds gonna clear ♪

1117
01:06:40,788 --> 01:06:45,376
♪ Up, up, up
There's no way but up from here ♪

1118
01:06:46,502 --> 01:06:48,879
♪ Even something as simple as♪

1119
01:06:50,172 --> 01:06:53,342
♪ Forgettin' to fill up on gas♪

1120
01:06:54,427 --> 01:06:56,429
♪ There ain't no explanation why♪

1121
01:06:56,512 --> 01:06:58,139
♪ Things like that can make you cry♪

1122
01:06:58,222 --> 01:07:00,141
♪ Just gotta learn to have a laugh♪

1123
01:07:00,224 --> 01:07:04,937
For the Up! tour,
I was now getting a new influence

1124
01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:09,275
from big rock band show production,

1125
01:07:09,358 --> 01:07:12,278
like Metallica,
because now my management is Q Prime.

1126
01:07:12,361 --> 01:07:19,118
And they had huge experience
in doing major rock shows

1127
01:07:19,201 --> 01:07:22,329
with pyro and all of that stuff.

1128
01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:26,542
So, it was great for me
to now get more epic.

1129
01:07:27,376 --> 01:07:32,590
I think it just got more in the vein
of big-ass rock show, you know.

1130
01:07:47,605 --> 01:07:49,607
See you on the tour, good night!

1131
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:56,489
From the first time we met,

1132
01:07:57,073 --> 01:07:59,533
throughout the entire campaign of Up!,

1133
01:07:59,617 --> 01:08:01,619
she and I became really, really close.

1134
01:08:02,286 --> 01:08:05,039
And when you're with someone
like that all the time,

1135
01:08:05,122 --> 01:08:09,043
you can't help but, you know,
be a part of the highs and lows.

1136
01:08:10,294 --> 01:08:14,548
And I started to see a little bit of it
as sort of Up! was winding down.

1137
01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:24,475
It was nearing the end of the
tour, very much at the end of the tour,

1138
01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:28,187
I was out horseback riding,
and I was bit by a tick.

1139
01:08:29,730 --> 01:08:32,233
The tick was infected with Lyme's disease.

1140
01:08:34,443 --> 01:08:37,404
I did get Lyme's disease.

1141
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:43,953
I mean, my symptoms
were quite scary because

1142
01:08:44,036 --> 01:08:45,704
before I was diagnosed,

1143
01:08:47,456 --> 01:08:51,168
I was on stage very dizzy,
I was losing my balance.

1144
01:08:51,252 --> 01:08:54,421
I was afraid
I was going to fall off the stage,

1145
01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:56,799
and the stage is quite high.

1146
01:08:57,925 --> 01:09:02,054
So I was staying far from the edge,
I was adjusting what I was doing.

1147
01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:03,055
Um…

1148
01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:09,395
I was having these very, very, millisecond
blackouts, but regularly, like, every…

1149
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,440
Every minute, or every 30 seconds.

1150
01:09:16,986 --> 01:09:20,197
I had everything
that was on the Lyme's disease checklist

1151
01:09:20,281 --> 01:09:21,740
to follow up on medically.

1152
01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:22,950
I… I was fine.

1153
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:26,745
But my voice was never the same again.

1154
01:09:27,621 --> 01:09:28,581
It just…

1155
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:33,169
went into this strange flanging,

1156
01:09:33,252 --> 01:09:36,380
you know, lack of control of…
of the airflow.

1157
01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:38,507
I… I didn't understand it.

1158
01:09:45,514 --> 01:09:48,642
But I thought I'd lost my voice forever,
I thought that was it.

1159
01:09:48,726 --> 01:09:50,436
I would never, ever sing again.

1160
01:09:53,814 --> 01:09:57,193
That was… You know,
that was agonizing to watch.

1161
01:09:58,152 --> 01:10:01,614
You know, I don't know,
I've never felt for anybody so much.

1162
01:10:02,531 --> 01:10:03,532
Um…

1163
01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:06,160
I've dealt with a lot of
artists that have had problems.

1164
01:10:06,243 --> 01:10:09,371
She came to Nashville. She went
to experts everywhere in the world.

1165
01:10:16,086 --> 01:10:20,424
In that search to determine what was

1166
01:10:20,507 --> 01:10:26,388
causing this lack of control
with my voice and this change in my voice,

1167
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,724
Uh…

1168
01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:31,101
I was facing a divorce.

1169
01:10:31,602 --> 01:10:34,271
My husband leaves me for another woman.

1170
01:10:34,355 --> 01:10:38,484
This was your best friend. Allegedly,
she had an affair with your husband,

1171
01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:40,236
that infidelity led to divorce.

1172
01:10:41,028 --> 01:10:42,947
Now I'm at a whole other low…

1173
01:10:44,281 --> 01:10:45,324
and…

1174
01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:47,201
I've…

1175
01:10:48,327 --> 01:10:51,372
I just don't see any point
in going on with a music career.

1176
01:10:53,999 --> 01:10:57,127
I was at my house here
in Nashville when she called me

1177
01:10:57,211 --> 01:11:01,298
and told me that she felt like she
and Mutt were going to get divorced.

1178
01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:02,675
It was a really sad…

1179
01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:05,302
sad, sad time.

1180
01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:08,764
I… I remember it,
unfortunately, very well.

1181
01:11:11,141 --> 01:11:13,978
When I lost Mutt, I guess I thought…

1182
01:11:16,105 --> 01:11:19,400
I was thinking, um, that the…

1183
01:11:20,109 --> 01:11:22,236
the grief of that was…

1184
01:11:24,196 --> 01:11:27,616
It was similarly intense
to losing my parents.

1185
01:11:28,951 --> 01:11:29,952
And…

1186
01:11:31,537 --> 01:11:33,539
you know, it was like a death.

1187
01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:36,041
It was… It was like the death.
It was the end,

1188
01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:39,044
a permanent end
to so many facets of my life.

1189
01:11:39,753 --> 01:11:40,713
Um…

1190
01:11:41,338 --> 01:11:43,299
And I never got over my parents' death.

1191
01:11:43,382 --> 01:11:47,303
So I'm thinking, "Shit,
I'm never going to get over this." Like…

1192
01:11:48,012 --> 01:11:49,513
How do you get over that?

1193
01:11:51,682 --> 01:11:52,891
So all I can do

1194
01:11:53,892 --> 01:11:58,856
is determine
how I'm going to carry on from there.

1195
01:11:58,939 --> 01:12:02,359
How am I going to crawl out of this…

1196
01:12:03,444 --> 01:12:04,778
you know, hole

1197
01:12:05,946 --> 01:12:07,406
that I've fallen in?

1198
01:12:08,449 --> 01:12:11,785
Just like that, you know?

1199
01:12:15,414 --> 01:12:18,042
I had to take baby steps.

1200
01:12:18,125 --> 01:12:20,627
Songwriting being the first.

1201
01:12:20,711 --> 01:12:24,715
Just being able to listen to myself back…

1202
01:12:26,383 --> 01:12:29,303
… um, on my writing tapes was difficult.

1203
01:12:30,637 --> 01:12:33,599
And there were always
just little milliseconds of

1204
01:12:35,434 --> 01:12:36,310
getting it.

1205
01:12:46,111 --> 01:12:49,239
Lionel Richie reached out to my management

1206
01:12:49,323 --> 01:12:53,786
to say, "I'm making this album,
and I want country music artists to,

1207
01:12:54,411 --> 01:12:55,913
um, re-record them."

1208
01:12:55,996 --> 01:12:57,873
We were down to "Endless Love."

1209
01:12:59,792 --> 01:13:00,959
"Who do you want?"

1210
01:13:01,043 --> 01:13:02,961
"I want Shania Twain."

1211
01:13:03,837 --> 01:13:07,257
Not realizing Shania's story at that time.

1212
01:13:07,758 --> 01:13:10,636
Just realizing that that's my choice for…

1213
01:13:11,136 --> 01:13:14,056
for "Endless Love"
and my partner in that song.

1214
01:13:14,556 --> 01:13:17,518
Uh, and of course, I made the phone call.

1215
01:13:17,601 --> 01:13:21,063
I didn't… I didn't feel comfortable
putting myself under that pressure.

1216
01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:23,065
I said no. I declined.

1217
01:13:25,317 --> 01:13:29,113
But he kept coming back,
like, several times requesting it.

1218
01:13:29,196 --> 01:13:32,032
I said to her very simply,
"I'll meet you in Nashville."

1219
01:13:32,116 --> 01:13:34,034
"No, I can't come to Nashville."

1220
01:13:34,118 --> 01:13:34,952
"All right."

1221
01:13:35,452 --> 01:13:37,996
"I'll have you come to California."

1222
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,748
"Nope. Can't come to California."

1223
01:13:39,832 --> 01:13:43,293
"Where would you like to meet?"
is my next question.

1224
01:13:44,044 --> 01:13:45,671
I'm on the phone, and I'm like…

1225
01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:50,217
"You know, Lionel, I… I just…
I can't do it."

1226
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,719
"I'm so sorry. I… I want to do it."

1227
01:13:52,803 --> 01:13:57,433
"I wish I could sing well enough to do it,
but I… I just can't."

1228
01:13:57,516 --> 01:13:58,517
"I'm so sorry."

1229
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:04,440
And before that call ended,
he convinced me to do it.

1230
01:14:04,523 --> 01:14:08,277
And, of course, she said,
"Listen, let's meet in the Bahamas."

1231
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,155
Now, of course,
I've recorded in a lot of places,

1232
01:14:11,238 --> 01:14:15,284
but the Bahamas would be the last place
on Earth I would think about that.

1233
01:14:15,367 --> 01:14:17,035
I finally get there,

1234
01:14:18,787 --> 01:14:20,164
and as I walk in the door,

1235
01:14:21,248 --> 01:14:25,085
she wants to talk to me
privately out by the pool.

1236
01:14:26,462 --> 01:14:29,923
She's trying to assure me
that she cannot do it.

1237
01:14:30,549 --> 01:14:35,012
I'm sort of cursing under my breath, like,
"How could you get me into this?"

1238
01:14:35,095 --> 01:14:39,057
This is the worst day of my life. I'll
never be able to do it. I'm so stressed.

1239
01:14:40,058 --> 01:14:41,810
♪ Forever♪

1240
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:46,732
♪ I… I… I…♪

1241
01:14:46,815 --> 01:14:50,319
Lionel was not going to give up. He was
not going to give up, and I knew it,

1242
01:14:50,402 --> 01:14:53,739
but it was such a gentle…
It was such a kind pressure.

1243
01:14:54,406 --> 01:14:56,408
But I thought, well, if I fail,

1244
01:14:56,909 --> 01:15:01,830
I'd rather fail with somebody that is
forgiving and sweet and kind about it.

1245
01:15:02,915 --> 01:15:05,167
I said, "We'll go
in this room in a minute,

1246
01:15:05,250 --> 01:15:07,461
but I need you to walk in there with me."

1247
01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,296
"You know what's going to happen?"

1248
01:15:09,379 --> 01:15:11,423
"We are going to discover something."

1249
01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,551
"Lionel Richie and Shania Twain
are gonna show up."

1250
01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:18,514
♪ And yes♪

1251
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:25,270
♪ You'll be the only one ♪

1252
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:31,777
♪ 'Cause no one can deny♪

1253
01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:35,948
♪ This love I have inside ♪

1254
01:15:36,031 --> 01:15:37,282
♪ My love♪

1255
01:15:37,366 --> 01:15:39,868
♪ My love♪

1256
01:15:39,952 --> 01:15:46,083
♪ My endless love♪

1257
01:15:46,166 --> 01:15:50,671
♪ My endless love♪

1258
01:15:54,508 --> 01:15:58,053
It was a lot of pressure.
Oh, boy, that day was so stressful.

1259
01:16:00,389 --> 01:16:02,975
I'm so glad that's over,
and it ended well.

1260
01:16:04,268 --> 01:16:06,562
It took me a lot of encouragement

1261
01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:09,356
from around me to get me truly

1262
01:16:09,856 --> 01:16:11,233
doing it for real.

1263
01:16:11,316 --> 01:16:13,819
And Lionel Richie was a big part of that.

1264
01:16:13,902 --> 01:16:18,031
David Foster and Michael Bublé,
another big part of that.

1265
01:16:18,115 --> 01:16:21,451
Oprah Winfrey was, you know,
part of that journey.

1266
01:16:21,535 --> 01:16:25,455
Another great encouragement for me
was meeting Gladys Knight.

1267
01:16:25,539 --> 01:16:28,584
She's probably my favorite
female vocalist ever.

1268
01:16:29,084 --> 01:16:32,879
She told me you just got to
get on the mic and do it.

1269
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,007
Do it and do it and do it.

1270
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:40,387
I learned that if I could get my voice
into a certain place,

1271
01:16:41,138 --> 01:16:43,807
with a lot of effort,

1272
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:48,937
it would sustain for at least long enough
to, you know, do a great vocal.

1273
01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:01,867
Thank you. Yeah!

1274
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:04,995
It was a huge commitment
to decide to do Las Vegas,

1275
01:17:05,078 --> 01:17:06,913
but it was exactly what I needed.

1276
01:17:06,997 --> 01:17:08,915
It's been very, very long time coming.

1277
01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:11,627
It's been over ten years
since I've been on the live stage.

1278
01:17:12,544 --> 01:17:13,587
Let me hear you.

1279
01:17:17,049 --> 01:17:19,635
♪ That don't impress me much ♪

1280
01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:24,973
♪ So you got the looks
But have you got the touch ♪

1281
01:17:25,057 --> 01:17:28,143
Diving into the obligation
to Caesars Palace,

1282
01:17:28,226 --> 01:17:30,020
that was a huge pressure.

1283
01:17:30,103 --> 01:17:33,774
But I feel like the only way
that I would achieve something

1284
01:17:34,733 --> 01:17:39,029
vocally from it was
to put myself under the gun.

1285
01:17:47,329 --> 01:17:49,998
You'd have to take
a sledgehammer to knock her down,

1286
01:17:50,082 --> 01:17:51,375
then she'd get up.

1287
01:17:52,542 --> 01:17:53,585
She would get up.

1288
01:17:54,086 --> 01:17:55,754
I think she took it as a challenge.

1289
01:17:55,837 --> 01:17:59,716
She saw it as an opportunity, like,
"I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna show people."

1290
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,303
And the next thing was
recording a record on her own.

1291
01:18:04,638 --> 01:18:07,349
♪ You let me go♪

1292
01:18:07,432 --> 01:18:10,727
♪ You had to have her♪

1293
01:18:11,311 --> 01:18:14,856
It took a long time to be ready
to write and record again.

1294
01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:16,775
I was afraid to

1295
01:18:17,609 --> 01:18:19,736
get back into the studio without Mutt.

1296
01:18:20,904 --> 01:18:23,281
So it was really more about

1297
01:18:24,074 --> 01:18:26,493
taking independence for myself,

1298
01:18:26,576 --> 01:18:29,121
and it was an exercise of…

1299
01:18:30,914 --> 01:18:35,585
saying, "Okay, look, you can't just
not ever make music again…

1300
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:38,964
because you don't have Mutt."

1301
01:18:39,047 --> 01:18:40,674
"You gotta just dive in."

1302
01:18:40,757 --> 01:18:42,884
And I was petrified. I really was.

1303
01:18:42,968 --> 01:18:46,722
I don't know where I'm going.
I'm leaving the studio. I quit.

1304
01:18:49,099 --> 01:18:50,142
I'm just kidding.

1305
01:18:50,809 --> 01:18:54,563
So now I said,
"Okay, listen, I'm going to not only

1306
01:18:55,313 --> 01:18:59,276
get back into the studio without him,
I'm going to write all the music alone,

1307
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:04,281
and just discover myself again
as an individual creative."

1308
01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:08,535
Like I'd been all of my youth.

1309
01:19:08,618 --> 01:19:10,370
It's actually a beautiful day here.

1310
01:19:11,496 --> 01:19:15,292
And, uh, I don't know, I was thinking
maybe we could have a barbecue.

1311
01:19:16,668 --> 01:19:17,627
Oh.

1312
01:19:17,711 --> 01:19:18,712
Maybe not.

1313
01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:24,217
There was a vulnerability to it,
and I think, you know, for anyone

1314
01:19:24,301 --> 01:19:29,055
in music it's such a… It's like
a therapy, really, for a lot of people.

1315
01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:32,017
For her it was definitely a moment
where she could open up

1316
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,603
and talk about things
she hadn't spoken about before.

1317
01:19:35,353 --> 01:19:39,357
♪ Because of you, I'm me ♪

1318
01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:46,239
♪ All of a sudden I'm something I wasn't♪

1319
01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:51,661
♪ Because of you, I see♪

1320
01:19:53,330 --> 01:19:58,043
Shania's talking about lyrics
and things that really matter to her.

1321
01:19:58,126 --> 01:20:01,379
And I'm going, "Look, it's fine.
Like it's okay. It's good."

1322
01:20:01,463 --> 01:20:05,383
"It's important to say these things.
People need to hear this side of you."

1323
01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:09,221
Um, and I think that in itself gave her
that confidence to actually go,

1324
01:20:09,304 --> 01:20:12,182
"Okay, yeah. Brilliant. Cool.
Let's move forward with it."

1325
01:20:12,265 --> 01:20:14,893
♪ Poor me this. Poor me that ♪

1326
01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:19,397
♪ Poor me this… ♪

1327
01:20:19,481 --> 01:20:20,941
That was so beautiful.

1328
01:20:24,194 --> 01:20:26,905
♪ Poor me this. Poor me that ♪

1329
01:20:26,988 --> 01:20:28,490
It was a great experience.

1330
01:20:29,115 --> 01:20:30,742
Now is my favorite

1331
01:20:31,451 --> 01:20:35,872
recorded work that I've done so far
that I enjoy listening to still.

1332
01:20:39,501 --> 01:20:40,710
You know what?

1333
01:20:41,253 --> 01:20:43,630
Life is about to get real good.

1334
01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:48,218
♪ Life's about joy♪

1335
01:20:48,301 --> 01:20:50,303
♪ Life's about pain ♪

1336
01:20:50,387 --> 01:20:52,597
♪ It's all about forgiving♪

1337
01:20:52,681 --> 01:20:55,392
♪ And the will to walk away♪

1338
01:20:55,475 --> 01:20:57,644
♪ I'm ready to be loved♪

1339
01:20:57,727 --> 01:20:59,980
♪ And love the way I should♪

1340
01:21:00,063 --> 01:21:01,523
♪ Life's about♪

1341
01:21:01,606 --> 01:21:04,442
♪ Life's about to get good♪

1342
01:21:06,361 --> 01:21:08,864
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1343
01:21:08,947 --> 01:21:11,324
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1344
01:21:11,408 --> 01:21:15,120
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1345
01:21:16,246 --> 01:21:18,748
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1346
01:21:18,832 --> 01:21:20,917
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1347
01:21:21,001 --> 01:21:23,295
♪ Oh, life's about to get good♪

1348
01:21:24,838 --> 01:21:26,381
I say all the time,

1349
01:21:26,464 --> 01:21:28,466
I do not think that I would have

1350
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:30,176
the career that I have,

1351
01:21:30,260 --> 01:21:32,929
and the career that
I want to continue to have,

1352
01:21:33,013 --> 01:21:34,973
had Shania not been Shania.

1353
01:21:35,056 --> 01:21:38,101
To me, Shania Twain is a superstar

1354
01:21:38,184 --> 01:21:43,440
that I had the privilege of singing with
on stage when I was 14 years old.

1355
01:21:44,232 --> 01:21:48,820
And she had a huge hand
in me getting recognized

1356
01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:52,616
and noticed as
a young female Canadian singer.

1357
01:21:52,699 --> 01:21:55,869
Hi, Shania. Do you remember me?

1358
01:21:56,453 --> 01:21:59,998
You know, you look at the diversity
of artists who she has influenced,

1359
01:22:00,081 --> 01:22:02,375
her tentacles have reached
so far and wide.

1360
01:22:03,835 --> 01:22:05,837
♪ Oh, oh, no, no♪

1361
01:22:10,467 --> 01:22:12,177
♪ Now don't get me wrong♪

1362
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:14,179
♪ Yeah, I think you're all right♪

1363
01:22:14,763 --> 01:22:18,099
♪ But that won't keep me warm
In the middle of the night♪

1364
01:22:19,059 --> 01:22:21,561
Shania never let
where she was from,

1365
01:22:21,645 --> 01:22:24,105
who she was,
the fact that she was a woman,

1366
01:22:24,189 --> 01:22:27,692
I don't think she let any of those things
define what she wanted to do,

1367
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:31,821
which was make art
and make music and do it her way.

1368
01:22:31,905 --> 01:22:35,492
♪ Legends never die♪

1369
01:22:39,579 --> 01:22:43,291
♪ Oh, legends never die ♪

1370
01:22:43,875 --> 01:22:46,711
She did it different.
I mean, she really kicked that door open.

1371
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:51,466
And I think it shows
in the careers like Taylor Swift,

1372
01:22:51,549 --> 01:22:56,596
and it shows in the careers like mine,
where we followed that pattern.

1373
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,350
Shania's been that woman to tell you that
you don't have to adhere to the genres.

1374
01:23:00,433 --> 01:23:01,893
If the label says do this,

1375
01:23:01,977 --> 01:23:05,563
your heart says do something differently,
follow your heart. She's just awesome.

1376
01:23:05,647 --> 01:23:09,818
It's awesome that she keeps doing it too.
Not taking a break. I love that about her.

1377
01:23:22,622 --> 01:23:25,583
I like to get out
on the water and chill, contemplate.

1378
01:23:25,667 --> 01:23:28,837
Um, I have to bring the guitar
and of course the dog.

1379
01:23:30,714 --> 01:23:33,174
Sometimes I just anchor out and, um…

1380
01:23:34,426 --> 01:23:35,468
get inspired.

1381
01:23:37,095 --> 01:23:38,680
♪ I'm not a girl ♪

1382
01:23:39,931 --> 01:23:41,433
♪ I'm not a boy♪

1383
01:23:42,559 --> 01:23:44,102
♪ I'm not a baby♪

1384
01:23:45,311 --> 01:23:47,105
♪ I'm not a toy ♪

1385
01:23:47,897 --> 01:23:50,525
♪ 'Cause I'm a queen♪

1386
01:23:51,484 --> 01:23:55,613
I was always very bold
and straightforward about what I thought,

1387
01:23:55,697 --> 01:23:58,867
and my point of view on things as a woman,

1388
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:59,909
particularly.

1389
01:24:00,910 --> 01:24:03,329
My point of view in relationships,

1390
01:24:03,413 --> 01:24:07,959
the way I felt that
that women should be treated, respected,

1391
01:24:08,043 --> 01:24:09,878
and I still feel the same way.

1392
01:24:09,961 --> 01:24:12,338
So I'm just going to
carry on with that message.

1393
01:24:12,422 --> 01:24:15,800
I mean, I'm the boss of me, man.
I take responsibility for

1394
01:24:15,884 --> 01:24:17,385
what I think, what I say,

1395
01:24:17,969 --> 01:24:20,180
um, what I do and…

1396
01:24:21,431 --> 01:24:25,060
And I'm not going to be pushed around.
I'm not going to get bullied.

1397
01:24:25,143 --> 01:24:26,853
And I'm going to speak my mind.

1398
01:24:28,897 --> 01:24:30,940
♪ I'm not a girl ♪

1399
01:24:31,024 --> 01:24:33,151
♪ I'm not a boy ♪

1400
01:24:33,234 --> 01:24:35,320
♪ I'm not a baby ♪

1401
01:24:35,403 --> 01:24:37,572
♪ I'm not a toy ♪

1402
01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:40,450
♪ I'm a queen♪

1403
01:24:41,034 --> 01:24:47,665
I am here in London finishing my album
and getting with some great UK talent.

1404
01:24:47,749 --> 01:24:48,666
Creatives.

1405
01:24:49,334 --> 01:24:53,421
And, um, enjoying being in the same room

1406
01:24:54,047 --> 01:24:55,298
with other people.

1407
01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:59,803
And creating music.
It's really, really great. Great feeling.

1408
01:24:59,886 --> 01:25:04,349
♪ …Other amazing things to do♪

1409
01:25:04,432 --> 01:25:06,017
♪ I will follow my dream… ♪

1410
01:25:06,101 --> 01:25:08,937
So Mark Ralph is a writer-producer,

1411
01:25:09,521 --> 01:25:13,441
who has this incredible,
unique style of working.

1412
01:25:13,525 --> 01:25:17,237
He's got a lot of really great
electronic sounds in his productions.

1413
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,115
I was expecting
that we would write that way,

1414
01:25:20,198 --> 01:25:23,910
but you get in the room with Mark Ralph,
and it's really super organic.

1415
01:25:23,993 --> 01:25:27,330
There's no beat, there's no electronic
sounds or nothing like that.

1416
01:25:27,413 --> 01:25:28,498
There's nothing.

1417
01:25:28,581 --> 01:25:30,750
So I'm in the background at normal speed,

1418
01:25:30,834 --> 01:25:33,294
and he's just, like, zipping around.
It's awesome.

1419
01:25:33,378 --> 01:25:35,839
♪ What are you gonna do with that? ♪

1420
01:25:35,922 --> 01:25:38,550
♪ What are you gonna do with that? ♪

1421
01:25:38,633 --> 01:25:41,136
♪ Come on get down and dance to it♪

1422
01:25:44,055 --> 01:25:47,058
♪ What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?♪

1423
01:25:47,142 --> 01:25:50,603
I'm bopping around and having a blast,

1424
01:25:50,687 --> 01:25:53,481
and I think the fans will enjoy it.

1425
01:25:53,565 --> 01:25:58,194
And it's also very much… It's uplifting.
It's still a lot of female point of view.

1426
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:09,581
I'm more swinging back
into this space of,

1427
01:26:09,664 --> 01:26:13,293
I don't even want to say female
empowerment, but more self-empowerment.

1428
01:26:13,376 --> 01:26:18,381
I mean, I'm a woman, but
I'm just feeling very good in my own skin

1429
01:26:18,464 --> 01:26:21,593
and less apologetic than ever.

1430
01:26:22,927 --> 01:26:24,345
I'm feeling good, I don't feel…

1431
01:26:24,429 --> 01:26:26,973
Unless something else
knocks me down along the way, but…

1432
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,518
Like I always do,
I think I'll just get back up again.

1433
01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:53,750
♪ Let's go girls♪

1434
01:26:57,754 --> 01:27:00,757
Shania Twain had no business
going this hard on this song!

1435
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,300
I don't care what y'all say!

1436
01:27:02,383 --> 01:27:04,636
♪ I'm feelin' all right♪

1437
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:08,598
♪ Gonna let it all hang out♪

1438
01:27:08,681 --> 01:27:10,516
♪ Wanna make some noise♪

1439
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,435
♪ Really raise my voice♪

1440
01:27:12,518 --> 01:27:14,604
♪ Yeah, I wanna scream and… ♪

1441
01:27:14,687 --> 01:27:16,147
Me too, Shania!

1442
01:27:19,067 --> 01:27:19,984
♪ Uh♪

1443
01:27:20,068 --> 01:27:21,986
♪ No inhibitions♪

1444
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:24,030
♪ Make no conditions♪

1445
01:27:24,113 --> 01:27:27,825
♪ Get a little outta line♪

1446
01:27:27,909 --> 01:27:31,329
♪ I ain't gonna act politically correct♪

1447
01:27:31,412 --> 01:27:35,416
♪ I only wanna have a good time♪

1448
01:27:36,084 --> 01:27:39,712
♪ The best thing about bein' a woman♪

1449
01:27:39,796 --> 01:27:42,966
♪ Is the prerogative
To have a little fun ♪

1450
01:27:44,092 --> 01:27:47,428
♪ Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy♪

1451
01:27:47,512 --> 01:27:49,514
♪ Forget I'm a lady♪

1452
01:27:49,597 --> 01:27:51,724
♪ Men's shirts, short skirts♪

1453
01:27:51,808 --> 01:27:55,186
♪ Oh, oh, oh, really go wild♪

1454
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:57,689
♪ Yeah, doin' it in style♪

1455
01:27:57,772 --> 01:28:00,984
♪ Oh, oh, oh, get in the action♪

1456
01:28:01,067 --> 01:28:03,027
♪ Feel the attraction♪

1457
01:28:03,111 --> 01:28:05,154
♪ Color my hair, do what I dare♪

1458
01:28:05,238 --> 01:28:08,491
♪ Oh, oh, oh, I wanna be free♪

1459
01:28:08,574 --> 01:28:11,577
♪ Yeah, to feel the way I feel♪

1460
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,290
♪ Man, I feel like a woman♪