1 00:00:00,249 --> 00:00:02,249          to get my hair cut          2 00:00:02,293 --> 00:00:04,053     before God became my barber.     3 00:00:04,087 --> 00:00:05,337              [chuckles]                            You know?              4 00:00:05,379 --> 00:00:08,759                And...                5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,890      I used to tell the barber,      6 00:00:10,927 --> 00:00:15,217      "Rich, never turn me around          when you're doing my hair.      7 00:00:15,264 --> 00:00:17,774            "Always get me            8 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:20,899           facing the door."          9 00:00:20,937 --> 00:00:25,147       And he'd have that cloth            over you in the barbershop.     10 00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:28,491         And I would sit there                     with my gun             11 00:00:28,528 --> 00:00:30,108     waiting for them to come in.     12 00:00:30,154 --> 00:00:31,164            [hammer clicks]           13 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:34,407      So they got me, I got them.     14 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:37,620              somber music           15 00:00:37,662 --> 00:00:43,082                                      16 00:01:44,854 --> 00:01:47,824            [phone buzzing]           17 00:01:49,942 --> 00:01:51,532           [automated voice]                  You have a prepaid call.      18 00:01:51,569 --> 00:01:53,489         You will not be charged                    for this call.           19 00:01:57,575 --> 00:01:59,695      [Supreme]   We were the type           of dudes that were respectful.  20 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:02,464       Like, we stayed out the way                  of the police.           21 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:06,211        It was a grudging respect.     22 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:07,960         I mean, like, you know,                   they the police.          23 00:02:08,002 --> 00:02:10,382          Don't fuck with them.        24 00:02:10,421 --> 00:02:11,711                 And hope                      they don't fuck with us.      25 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:14,380            [phone beeping]           26 00:02:14,425 --> 00:02:17,045       dramatic orchestral music     27 00:02:17,094 --> 00:02:20,564                                      28 00:02:20,598 --> 00:02:22,678     [Bing]   See, we were way over              on this side of town.        29 00:02:22,725 --> 00:02:25,225                                      30 00:02:25,269 --> 00:02:28,729      And at the time, can't nobody             know our whereabouts.        31 00:02:28,773 --> 00:02:30,903      [Supreme]   We were in, like,           a little suburbs in Queens.     32 00:02:30,942 --> 00:02:33,692        That was like a nice area.                   All houses.             33 00:02:33,736 --> 00:02:37,276                [Bing]                        '85. September 10, 1985.      34 00:02:37,323 --> 00:02:40,703         We was all inside there,                       TV on,               35 00:02:40,743 --> 00:02:43,293     probably counting some money,        doing whatever in that joint.    36 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:44,619       And then all of a sudden,                 we hear a boom.           37 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:46,544         -Like, what the fuck?             -[indistinct radio chatter]     38 00:02:46,582 --> 00:02:48,252           Look out the window,        39 00:02:48,292 --> 00:02:50,092         they had this whole shit                    surrounded.             40 00:02:50,127 --> 00:02:52,797           The whole, entire--               seemed like the whole block.    41 00:02:52,838 --> 00:02:55,718            [siren wailing]           42 00:02:55,758 --> 00:02:56,928            Search warrants                     had never really           43 00:02:56,968 --> 00:02:58,508    been issued in the first place,  44 00:02:58,552 --> 00:03:00,432     but just how badly they just           wanted us off the street.      45 00:03:00,471 --> 00:03:02,931                                      46 00:03:02,974 --> 00:03:05,104           At that time, the DA                 was Sterling Johnson,        47 00:03:05,142 --> 00:03:05,942           way from Manhattan.         48 00:03:05,977 --> 00:03:08,897                                      49 00:03:08,938 --> 00:03:11,268       [Sterling]   I'll give you            a little about my background.    50 00:03:11,315 --> 00:03:15,355         I grew up in the era                of Plessy vs. Ferguson,       51 00:03:15,403 --> 00:03:18,243      when segregation was legal.     52 00:03:18,281 --> 00:03:20,781       Racism was always abound.      53 00:03:20,825 --> 00:03:25,445      I had no political ambitions.            Just to be a prosecutor.      54 00:03:25,496 --> 00:03:27,416                                      55 00:03:27,456 --> 00:03:30,916      McGriff was a charismatic guy           and people look up to him.     56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,960          He dressed very well.        57 00:03:33,004 --> 00:03:36,264        He had a lot of women.            Lot of young girls, you know?    58 00:03:36,299 --> 00:03:39,799            He's very visible.         59 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:43,264          [Supreme]   Mind you,                  my case is in Queens.        60 00:03:43,306 --> 00:03:44,516         But somehow or another,       61 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:46,807              they was able                    to get me out of Queens       62 00:03:46,851 --> 00:03:48,851       and in front of the special              narcotics prosecutor,        63 00:03:48,894 --> 00:03:50,984            Sterling Johnson.          64 00:03:51,022 --> 00:03:53,482             [siren wailing]           65 00:03:53,524 --> 00:03:55,484              [Sterling]                     The ironic thing about it,     66 00:03:55,526 --> 00:04:00,486      McGriff lived on 231st Street.  67 00:04:00,531 --> 00:04:02,581       I lived on 229th Street.       68 00:04:02,616 --> 00:04:04,156        dramatic drumroll plays      69 00:04:04,201 --> 00:04:06,081                                      70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,500            He never knew it.          71 00:04:07,538 --> 00:04:11,748                                      72 00:04:11,792 --> 00:04:13,292               Oh, shit.              73 00:04:13,336 --> 00:04:16,256               Wow, wow.              74 00:04:16,297 --> 00:04:17,917             No. For real?            75 00:04:17,965 --> 00:04:20,335                                      76 00:04:20,384 --> 00:04:24,314             Two blocks away?                        That creep.             77 00:04:24,347 --> 00:04:25,847      That's why he was on our body.  78 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:28,520             'Cause we was                    in his neighborhood.         79 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:30,189                  Oh.                 80 00:04:30,227 --> 00:04:32,687                                      81 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:37,320        [Nas]   After that raid,                   Supreme went away.         82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,860          downbeat jazz music        83 00:04:38,903 --> 00:04:41,073        The figurehead of the team                  was locked up.           84 00:04:41,113 --> 00:04:44,743                                      85 00:04:45,076 --> 00:04:47,866     [Supreme]   I-I-I wouldn't say                 I was surprised           86 00:04:47,912 --> 00:04:51,672            because it's part                      of the process.           87 00:04:51,707 --> 00:04:54,037        So if you're in the game,      88 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:56,205         at some point, you know,               you're gonna go down.        89 00:04:56,253 --> 00:05:00,303                                      90 00:05:00,341 --> 00:05:04,101        [Sterling]   I never met               a drug dealer who retired.     91 00:05:04,136 --> 00:05:06,386                  Never.               92 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:08,600             But it's like                     going into combat.          93 00:05:08,641 --> 00:05:10,891          You know there are                  gonna be casualties,         94 00:05:10,935 --> 00:05:12,185       but you say to yourself,       95 00:05:12,228 --> 00:05:13,098          "It's always gonna                    be the other guy.          96 00:05:13,145 --> 00:05:14,395        It's not gonna be me."        97 00:05:15,689 --> 00:05:18,569             dramatic music          98 00:05:18,609 --> 00:05:23,909                                      99 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:33,038      [Bill]   There is the first,                      I guess,              100 00:05:33,082 --> 00:05:35,922        era of the Supreme Team           where Supreme is in control.     101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,090         He goes away to jail                 for about eight years        102 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:42,379    and his nephew, Prince Miller,                 takes over.             103 00:05:42,425 --> 00:05:43,375               [Prince]                     When Preme went away, yeah,     104 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:45,756      everything fell under me then.  105 00:05:45,803 --> 00:05:47,263          But I would always try                  to listen to him.          106 00:05:47,304 --> 00:05:49,774      The only thing I didn't listen            to was when he said,        107 00:05:49,807 --> 00:05:52,637          "Man, leave it alone."       108 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:54,095              [reporter]                    On the streets of New York,     109 00:05:54,145 --> 00:05:56,645            it's called crack,              and the deals go down quickly.  110 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:58,899       You've just witnessed a buy.    111 00:05:58,941 --> 00:06:01,491        This form of cocaine comes                  concentrated.            112 00:06:01,527 --> 00:06:03,777              It is smoked,                      rather than sniffed.        113 00:06:03,821 --> 00:06:07,031       It produces an intense high            within five to ten seconds     114 00:06:07,074 --> 00:06:09,664                that lasts                     only five to ten minutes      115 00:06:09,702 --> 00:06:12,792           and leaves the user                    craving for more.          116 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:14,710              And this is                   the most addicting thing       117 00:06:14,748 --> 00:06:17,498      that probably ever existed                  in the world.            118 00:06:17,543 --> 00:06:20,883                You know?                     It will make you a slave.      119 00:06:20,921 --> 00:06:25,431                                      120 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:27,718    They're moving a lot of drugs,       but there's a lot of problems,    121 00:06:27,761 --> 00:06:29,311           a lot of violence                     on the street.            122 00:06:29,346 --> 00:06:32,266         tense orchestral music      123 00:06:32,308 --> 00:06:34,558          [Nas]   Word is that                   when Prince took over,       124 00:06:34,602 --> 00:06:37,232        some of the team's tactics                     changed.              125 00:06:37,271 --> 00:06:39,061           [sirens wailing]           126 00:06:39,106 --> 00:06:40,396           [Gary]   Prince is                    a little bit younger,        127 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:41,651            but when he came,          128 00:06:41,692 --> 00:06:44,112           he staked his claim                      on who he was.           129 00:06:44,153 --> 00:06:45,653      He was just like his uncle.     130 00:06:45,696 --> 00:06:48,816      There are some differences,         but they both are go-getters,    131 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:50,446       they both were super smart,     132 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:52,503       and they both didn't want                  to be denied.            133 00:06:52,536 --> 00:06:54,206            Here it is, bam          134 00:06:54,246 --> 00:06:57,116          And you say "Goddamn,                this is a dope jam"         135 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:59,666             But let's define                  the term called dope        136 00:06:59,710 --> 00:07:01,710              And you think                   it mean funky now, no        137 00:07:01,754 --> 00:07:03,214          Here is a true tale        138 00:07:03,255 --> 00:07:04,755     [reporter]   While Carmen Ortiz               clutched pictures          139 00:07:04,798 --> 00:07:06,178      of her dead son this evening,    140 00:07:06,217 --> 00:07:08,257         David Rosario's friends                    played outside           141 00:07:08,302 --> 00:07:10,932           on a street infested                  with crack dealers.         142 00:07:10,971 --> 00:07:12,311    Are you afraid when you go out           on the street at night?       143 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:14,178                 -Yes.                          -[reporter] Why?           144 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:16,635     There a lot of crack dealers.              They be shooting.          145 00:07:16,685 --> 00:07:17,935           Sniffing, riffing         146 00:07:17,978 --> 00:07:20,648    [Mark]   Everyone became addicted  147 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:23,109          to this unholy energy                    on the streets.           148 00:07:23,150 --> 00:07:27,360      You know, whether it was kids           or the cops or reporters.      149 00:07:27,404 --> 00:07:29,824         I'm talking about bass      150 00:07:29,865 --> 00:07:31,865    [Mark]   I got to the   Daily News             in the summer of '88.        151 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:33,489                  I was                     a general assignment reporter    152 00:07:33,536 --> 00:07:36,156              covering crack                      and crack dealers.         153 00:07:36,205 --> 00:07:38,365        And I fucking loved it.       154 00:07:38,415 --> 00:07:42,995       I never rolled up to news         scenes that were that intense.    155 00:07:43,045 --> 00:07:45,375       [reporter]   Police figures             confirm that without doubt     156 00:07:45,422 --> 00:07:48,472              the 1980s was                 the bloodiest ten-year period    157 00:07:48,509 --> 00:07:50,219        in New York City history.      158 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:51,431                And those                       that sell to Black         159 00:07:51,470 --> 00:07:52,760           Shame on a brother        160 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:54,675               [Shannon]                   Prince got all of us together    161 00:07:54,723 --> 00:07:58,523      and we made a lot of money.     162 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:00,151       From a corner from a brother          to keep another below        163 00:08:00,187 --> 00:08:02,977    [Shannon]   We were branching out                 all over.              164 00:08:03,023 --> 00:08:05,233            - Yo, Black, yo                    - We are willing!         165 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:07,026         [Shannon]   He was good                 at structuring things,       166 00:08:07,069 --> 00:08:07,899                you know?              167 00:08:07,945 --> 00:08:09,355        He was very good at that.      168 00:08:09,405 --> 00:08:12,365           Day to day, to day,                they say no other way        169 00:08:12,408 --> 00:08:14,658      [Shannon]   If he seen a spot               where it would be--         170 00:08:14,702 --> 00:08:17,622                 he think                    it might produce some money,    171 00:08:17,663 --> 00:08:20,123       he would give out samples              to all the different,        172 00:08:20,165 --> 00:08:22,535           you know, fiends.          173 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:26,415       And once he gets everything              structured, it builds.       174 00:08:26,463 --> 00:08:29,803       dramatic orchestral music     175 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:31,972               [Prince]                    I'm very, very good at chess.    176 00:08:32,011 --> 00:08:35,931           I watch my opponent                 while I'm playing them.       177 00:08:35,973 --> 00:08:37,603       I see his moves he's making,    178 00:08:37,641 --> 00:08:41,601        and I try to think, like,             five to eight moves ahead.     179 00:08:41,645 --> 00:08:42,555          Next thing they know,                     they look up.            180 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:45,685                  Damn!                               Checkmate.             181 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:47,783            When I play chess,                    I'm not in prison.         182 00:08:47,818 --> 00:08:49,398          You moving your pieces                    and, you know,           183 00:08:49,445 --> 00:08:50,485        you organizing, you know?      184 00:08:50,529 --> 00:08:52,279           And you beat the guy                      to the punch            185 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:55,243        and then you gotta be able             to see the whole board.       186 00:08:55,284 --> 00:08:56,414             It's like life.           187 00:08:56,452 --> 00:08:59,792                                      188 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:01,330      [Corey]   When he took over,      189 00:09:01,373 --> 00:09:05,673       it was the most violent time              in the Supreme Team.        190 00:09:05,711 --> 00:09:07,841               I was happy                        for a little while         191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,340            until I started                seeing people disappearing.     192 00:09:10,382 --> 00:09:13,092      I'd be like, "Yo, what's up         with--where's such-and-such?"    193 00:09:13,135 --> 00:09:14,885      It's like, "Nah," you know,                 "He's gone."             194 00:09:14,928 --> 00:09:16,348          "Where's this one?"                        "Gone."               195 00:09:16,388 --> 00:09:18,178         Or I'd be in the park        196 00:09:18,223 --> 00:09:22,233        and, you know, one of the            big bosses come in the park,    197 00:09:22,269 --> 00:09:24,269         take one of his workers,      198 00:09:24,313 --> 00:09:27,273      and, like, beat him down like,          black eyes, everything.       199 00:09:27,316 --> 00:09:29,436    And he looks at the rest of us                and was like,            200 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:30,645      "Y'all want some of this?"      201 00:09:30,694 --> 00:09:32,114           And it's like...           202 00:09:32,154 --> 00:09:33,454                 "Nah.                203 00:09:33,489 --> 00:09:34,739     "We don't want none of that.     204 00:09:34,782 --> 00:09:36,832       I'm going back over here             to finish this package."       205 00:09:36,867 --> 00:09:38,947                                      206 00:09:38,994 --> 00:09:40,414           Man, it's just--                       in that way,             207 00:09:40,454 --> 00:09:42,834           I heard of people              getting thrown off of roofs,     208 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:45,173          thrown out windows.         209 00:09:45,209 --> 00:09:48,839    [Mook]   It just came a time when          certain people feel like      210 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:51,509      certain people didn't deserve         a block, street, or a corner,    211 00:09:51,548 --> 00:09:53,298       so that's like anything,             you know what I'm saying?      212 00:09:53,342 --> 00:09:55,142       Only the strong survive,               especially back then.        213 00:09:55,177 --> 00:09:56,847                                      214 00:09:56,887 --> 00:09:59,177         [indistinct chatter]         215 00:09:59,223 --> 00:10:00,603               [Prince]                      First of all, what I'ma do     216 00:10:00,641 --> 00:10:02,141               is I'ma take                    some of that perception       217 00:10:02,184 --> 00:10:04,194             because there's                    no question about it.        218 00:10:04,228 --> 00:10:06,358            I was a criminal.                    I was selling drugs.        219 00:10:06,397 --> 00:10:09,687        You know what I'm saying?                I was a drug dealer.        220 00:10:09,733 --> 00:10:11,363              That's a past                      that I can't erase.         221 00:10:11,402 --> 00:10:13,282                In regards                    to how much I've changed,      222 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,530             that's my past.           223 00:10:14,571 --> 00:10:15,701        You know what I'm saying?      224 00:10:15,739 --> 00:10:17,199           But that being said,        225 00:10:17,241 --> 00:10:19,741         a lot of stuff they said                     was false.             226 00:10:20,953 --> 00:10:23,913            soft piano music         227 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:28,206                                      228 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:31,212      I lot of people wanna hear              these myths of this,         229 00:10:31,255 --> 00:10:32,255           the myth of that.          230 00:10:32,297 --> 00:10:33,917            They wanna know                     if this was true,          231 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:36,886            that was true,                     all this bullshit.          232 00:10:36,927 --> 00:10:41,347        But nobody asked, um...       233 00:10:41,390 --> 00:10:43,230       about home or, you know,       234 00:10:43,267 --> 00:10:46,017             what happens                    when this man go home?        235 00:10:46,061 --> 00:10:46,901               Nothing.               236 00:10:46,937 --> 00:10:48,727        Dinner's on the table.        237 00:10:48,772 --> 00:10:51,322           The dogs are fed.          238 00:10:51,358 --> 00:10:54,398           We watch a movie,                  maybe even sometimes.        239 00:10:54,445 --> 00:10:55,815               You know?              240 00:10:55,863 --> 00:10:57,873      Just come down to my room,                sit down with me,          241 00:10:57,906 --> 00:11:00,656      and just talk about nothing                for 20 minutes.           242 00:11:00,701 --> 00:11:04,251      Just wanted to make sure my          mind learn something today.     243 00:11:04,288 --> 00:11:05,868               You know?              244 00:11:05,914 --> 00:11:07,924           Needed that shit.          245 00:11:07,958 --> 00:11:09,168         Everybody need that.         246 00:11:09,209 --> 00:11:11,339                                      247 00:11:11,378 --> 00:11:12,918           So if this was the--        248 00:11:12,963 --> 00:11:15,263         they call him a kingpin,                     some shit?             249 00:11:15,299 --> 00:11:17,589          He was the kingpin                     of the family.            250 00:11:17,634 --> 00:11:19,094              [chuckles]              251 00:11:19,136 --> 00:11:22,176             That family.                  Fuck all this street shit.      252 00:11:22,222 --> 00:11:26,312                                      253 00:11:26,351 --> 00:11:29,771       [Suzette]   We got married                  in December, like,         254 00:11:29,813 --> 00:11:31,983         little before Christmas.      255 00:11:32,024 --> 00:11:33,904                                      256 00:11:33,942 --> 00:11:35,442            The wedding was--                       it was small.            257 00:11:35,486 --> 00:11:38,276      It was my mother, his family,                   my sister.             258 00:11:38,322 --> 00:11:40,492             It was a really,                   really small wedding.        259 00:11:40,532 --> 00:11:41,832                                      260 00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:43,617           Everybody cried.           261 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:46,000             But it was--                       it was memorable.          262 00:11:46,038 --> 00:11:48,458                                      263 00:11:48,499 --> 00:11:49,749                Money?                264 00:11:49,792 --> 00:11:51,292         Money was ridiculous.        265 00:11:51,335 --> 00:11:53,415           Money was, like,                  garbage bags of money.        266 00:11:53,462 --> 00:11:57,052      If I was bored, I would go         and buy the Salmon's furniture.  267 00:11:57,090 --> 00:11:58,550           Because I was bored,        268 00:11:58,592 --> 00:12:01,302      I would just change everything               in the house.            269 00:12:01,345 --> 00:12:03,965            And then I'll see                  a fur commercial on TV.       270 00:12:04,014 --> 00:12:05,604              I was like,                  "Oh, look at those coats."      271 00:12:05,641 --> 00:12:07,981     "All right, go get the coat."        Like, yeah, it became normal.    272 00:12:08,018 --> 00:12:10,268                It was.                     It was like, "Whatever."       273 00:12:10,312 --> 00:12:13,322                                      274 00:12:13,357 --> 00:12:15,437      I wasn't out and about, like,                  a whole lot.            275 00:12:15,484 --> 00:12:17,654       But when I did, you know,             people acknowledge you,       276 00:12:17,694 --> 00:12:20,494        they respect you a lot            because you're Prince's wife.    277 00:12:20,531 --> 00:12:22,781         And everybody kind of                 looked out for me.          278 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:26,825         We were pretty safe.                     It felt safe.            279 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:30,040      Sometimes when we went out,         someone had to come with us.     280 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:33,672        But for the most part,                    we were good.            281 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:34,670       [Prince]   That is a fact.       282 00:12:34,711 --> 00:12:36,671       You know, what it was then,     283 00:12:36,713 --> 00:12:39,843           whole bunch of money                and it was a fast life.       284 00:12:39,883 --> 00:12:41,553        And, uh, it was deep, man.     285 00:12:41,593 --> 00:12:45,143                                      286 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:47,390       [Suzette]   Home was home.                      Literally.             287 00:12:47,432 --> 00:12:49,182            No work came home.         288 00:12:49,226 --> 00:12:53,106                                      289 00:12:53,146 --> 00:12:54,396          It was one incident.         290 00:12:54,439 --> 00:12:56,109           [sirens wailing]           291 00:12:56,149 --> 00:12:59,609      Prince was taking the kids,                Tuff and my son           292 00:12:59,653 --> 00:13:02,033             to buy bikes.            293 00:13:02,072 --> 00:13:03,202          And they were going                     to this store            294 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,990           on Jamaica Avenue                    named Bellitte's.          295 00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:06,543             So they went,                    picked out the bikes,        296 00:13:06,577 --> 00:13:08,497             but they had                  to put the bikes together.      297 00:13:08,537 --> 00:13:11,367         And so they came home                 for a few minutes,          298 00:13:11,415 --> 00:13:13,535          they took the kids,                 and they left again.         299 00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:16,174    When he went back out the door,  300 00:13:16,211 --> 00:13:18,881        you just hear gunshots.       301 00:13:18,922 --> 00:13:21,882              -[gunfire]                       -[tires squealing]          302 00:13:21,925 --> 00:13:24,215           suspenseful music         303 00:13:24,261 --> 00:13:28,021        [Prince]   We was living             right off of Linden Boulevard.  304 00:13:28,056 --> 00:13:30,976        What happened was we came,                 got in the car,           305 00:13:31,018 --> 00:13:32,308             we was driving,           306 00:13:32,352 --> 00:13:34,562         and it just so happened                   I'm looking down          307 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:38,355      and a van's on the wrong side                 of the street.           308 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,070        So the van makes a U-turn,                  pulls around,            309 00:13:41,111 --> 00:13:42,911           tries to cut us off.        310 00:13:42,946 --> 00:13:44,446                And before                      it can even get there,       311 00:13:44,489 --> 00:13:47,779             I said, "Yo, yo!                  It's a hit, it's a hit!"      312 00:13:47,826 --> 00:13:50,576                                      313 00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:52,711    [Tuff]   I think three gentlemen               jump out that van,         314 00:13:52,748 --> 00:13:55,878         two and then the driver,                end up jumping out.         315 00:13:55,918 --> 00:13:57,588           You get strategic                   is what he told me.         316 00:13:57,628 --> 00:14:00,878       Told me you don't panic.       317 00:14:00,923 --> 00:14:04,053         You either gonna live                  or you gonna die.          318 00:14:04,092 --> 00:14:05,932         But you don't panic.         319 00:14:05,969 --> 00:14:07,969               [Prince]                        The dudes in the van,        320 00:14:08,013 --> 00:14:10,433           they were so spooked                   at the reputation,         321 00:14:10,474 --> 00:14:12,104            but they shooting                       over the car.            322 00:14:12,142 --> 00:14:14,392       Not one bullet hit the car.                  Not even one.            323 00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:16,936                                      324 00:14:16,980 --> 00:14:18,940              And they lucky                      I wasn't strapped.         325 00:14:18,982 --> 00:14:20,282         They would've been down                     right there.            326 00:14:20,317 --> 00:14:22,437             It would've been                       self-defense.            327 00:14:22,486 --> 00:14:23,946               [Suzette]                        I was in the shower.        328 00:14:23,987 --> 00:14:25,447           The door was closed,             but I hear my sister yelling.    329 00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,069          I'm like, "Oh, my God,                    open the door.           330 00:14:27,115 --> 00:14:27,905          "They gonna kill him,                  they gonna kill him.        331 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:28,950             Open the door."           332 00:14:28,992 --> 00:14:30,542        And Prince kind of ran in.     333 00:14:30,577 --> 00:14:31,577          And so to this day,         334 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:33,580            I don't shower                    with the door closed,        335 00:14:33,622 --> 00:14:36,422         'cause I need to hear              what's going on outside.       336 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:38,288           [tires squealing]          337 00:14:38,335 --> 00:14:41,205     [Prince]   And then, you know,           at that time, not gonna lie,    338 00:14:41,254 --> 00:14:43,764            we chased the van                   and the van got away.        339 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:45,089        You know what I'm saying?      340 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:46,093            And that was that.         341 00:14:46,134 --> 00:14:48,354           [engine revving]           342 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:51,057            The police come                  and yeah, they kinda--        343 00:14:51,098 --> 00:14:52,468          they stayed outside                for a really long time.       344 00:14:52,516 --> 00:14:55,226            Like, I guess,                     just investigating.         345 00:14:55,268 --> 00:14:56,598       But Prince really didn't                   talk to them.            346 00:14:56,645 --> 00:14:57,395              He didn't.              347 00:14:57,437 --> 00:14:59,307                                      348 00:14:59,356 --> 00:15:01,316                 [Nas]                      When you on top of the game,    349 00:15:01,358 --> 00:15:04,148        everyone's trying to come                   for your spot            350 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:06,994        either as rival gangsters,     351 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:10,370       up-and-comers, or the cops.     352 00:15:10,409 --> 00:15:13,369            [siren wailing]           353 00:15:13,412 --> 00:15:15,412         [reporter]   Police say              it was just before 3:30 a.m.    354 00:15:15,455 --> 00:15:17,825        when a brown car pulled up                  to the corner            355 00:15:17,874 --> 00:15:20,634           of 107th Avenue and              Inwood Street here in Jamaica.  356 00:15:20,669 --> 00:15:22,499              That is where                      Officer Edward Byrne        357 00:15:22,546 --> 00:15:26,586            was sitting alone                     in his patrol car.         358 00:15:26,633 --> 00:15:28,343         [reporter]   As he sat                    in his patrol car          359 00:15:28,385 --> 00:15:30,675      guarding the home of a witness              in a drug case,           360 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:33,851      rookie policeman Edward Byrne               was shot to death.         361 00:15:33,890 --> 00:15:36,310     [reporter]   One man reportedly              got out of the car,         362 00:15:36,351 --> 00:15:38,691            fired five rounds                from a high-caliber weapon.     363 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:42,689      Three of those shots hit Byrne       in the left side of his head.    364 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:44,363        [reporter]   Edward Byrne                 followed his father,        365 00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,651          a retired lieutenant,                     into the NYPD.           366 00:15:46,695 --> 00:15:49,195         He only joined the force                     last July.             367 00:15:49,239 --> 00:15:51,739       This week, he celebrated                his 22nd birthday.          368 00:15:51,783 --> 00:15:54,043                                      369 00:15:54,077 --> 00:15:58,207      '88, I was a police officer                four years in.            370 00:15:58,248 --> 00:16:02,958       I remember the assassination               of Edward Byrnes.          371 00:16:03,003 --> 00:16:05,633           It was something                  that changed policing.        372 00:16:05,672 --> 00:16:07,632                                      373 00:16:07,674 --> 00:16:10,014      [Sterling]   If he's sitting            in a patrol car in uniform,     374 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:12,262      you know, comes up behind him             and boom, boom, boom.        375 00:16:12,304 --> 00:16:13,604          Shoots and kills him.        376 00:16:13,638 --> 00:16:16,178                                      377 00:16:16,224 --> 00:16:20,234         That's the arrogance              that the drug dealers had.      378 00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:23,520                                      379 00:16:23,565 --> 00:16:25,145                [Eddie]                       That one pisses me off.       380 00:16:25,192 --> 00:16:26,492            I don't understand         381 00:16:26,526 --> 00:16:30,316        assassinating a young kid                     like that.             382 00:16:30,363 --> 00:16:31,743           That stuck with me.         383 00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:33,412     That stuck with me, that one.    384 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:37,580     That was a outright "eff you"          to the police department.      385 00:16:37,621 --> 00:16:39,411           "We don't care."           386 00:16:39,456 --> 00:16:42,416          No father should have                   to bury their son.         387 00:16:42,459 --> 00:16:45,589      [Matthew]   If our son Eddie,             sitting in a police car,      388 00:16:45,629 --> 00:16:49,169        can be wasted by scum,        389 00:16:49,216 --> 00:16:51,506       then none of us are safe.      390 00:16:51,551 --> 00:16:53,351           And I don't care                      where you live.           391 00:16:53,386 --> 00:16:56,136             [Eric]   It was                     an open assassination        392 00:16:56,181 --> 00:17:01,021           of a police officer                      while on duty.           393 00:17:01,061 --> 00:17:03,731       And it concerned me because     394 00:17:03,772 --> 00:17:07,362      it became a personal fight.     395 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,490    These bullets go right through          a police officer's vest.       396 00:17:09,528 --> 00:17:11,948         Makes you think twice                  about everything.          397 00:17:11,988 --> 00:17:13,618               You know,                    doing your job out there.      398 00:17:13,657 --> 00:17:15,907           It definitely was                   a personal vendetta         399 00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:19,251            of NYPD against              every drug dealer in the city.    400 00:17:19,287 --> 00:17:20,787        They wanted 'em all done.      401 00:17:20,831 --> 00:17:23,081       They wanted to lock them up,               their mothers up,          402 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:25,035         their fathers, everybody           they could get their hands on.  403 00:17:25,085 --> 00:17:27,545             downbeat music          404 00:17:27,587 --> 00:17:30,167        [Bill]   We were shocked,                    we were angry.           405 00:17:30,215 --> 00:17:33,295     That anger wasn't going away                     ever.                406 00:17:33,343 --> 00:17:36,723             And we hold,                     to a certain degree,         407 00:17:36,763 --> 00:17:38,813    the people of Jamaica, Queens,             responsible for it.         408 00:17:38,849 --> 00:17:43,149                                      409 00:17:43,186 --> 00:17:46,476          Eddie Byrnes' death                  was a turning point         410 00:17:46,523 --> 00:17:50,823       in the federal attention                     to crack               411 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,701    and to the Black neighborhoods.  412 00:17:52,737 --> 00:17:55,027         [reporter]   Mayor Koch                  spent almost $13,000        413 00:17:55,073 --> 00:17:56,453      of his re-election fund money    414 00:17:56,491 --> 00:17:58,951          to buy a full-page ad                 in   The New York Times        415 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:01,294          begging people to send            telegrams to President Reagan    416 00:18:01,329 --> 00:18:03,119               urging that                       he cut off U.S. aid         417 00:18:03,165 --> 00:18:05,455      to drug-trafficking countries.  418 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:07,500           We've got to get              our own country, the president,  419 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:10,714      to, as commander-in-chief,            to protect us as he would      420 00:18:10,755 --> 00:18:13,005         if the Russians were             coming here with terrorists.     421 00:18:13,049 --> 00:18:15,429                                      422 00:18:15,468 --> 00:18:19,678       So it became a political          football and political benefit.  423 00:18:19,723 --> 00:18:24,443         George Bush seized upon                    Byrnes' death            424 00:18:24,477 --> 00:18:27,107            to grab his shield                and go around campaigning      425 00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:29,937                  during                      the presidential campaign.     426 00:18:29,983 --> 00:18:31,783           [President Bush]                 You read about the execution    427 00:18:31,818 --> 00:18:34,198         of Officer Edward Byrne.      428 00:18:34,237 --> 00:18:36,157           You've read about                the drug-related violence      429 00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:37,698        that's turning sections                   of our cities            430 00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:39,161          into combat zones.          431 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:40,201               [Robert]                     And George Bush was saying,     432 00:18:40,243 --> 00:18:42,373            "We're gonna solve                       the problem.            433 00:18:42,412 --> 00:18:44,122          "We're gonna prosecute                    those people.            434 00:18:44,164 --> 00:18:47,384      We're gonna make what used to         be state cases federal cases."  435 00:18:47,417 --> 00:18:49,337           [President Bush]                Here, the rules have changed.    436 00:18:49,377 --> 00:18:52,337          If you sell drugs,                   you will be caught.         437 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:55,430        And when you're caught,              you will be prosecuted,       438 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:59,217      and once you're convicted,                you will do time.          439 00:18:59,262 --> 00:19:00,972        Before the Eddie Byrne                      homicide,              440 00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:02,894    there was a very limited number              of, you know,            441 00:19:02,933 --> 00:19:06,273        street narcotics cases                 being made, if any.         442 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:10,071    And all of a sudden, you know,       that murder woke everybody up.    443 00:19:12,859 --> 00:19:14,819                [Mark]                      'Cause now all of a sudden,     444 00:19:14,861 --> 00:19:18,031              these kids                   had fucked with the power.      445 00:19:18,073 --> 00:19:21,373      And in this particular age,     446 00:19:21,409 --> 00:19:23,659       everyone became a target.      447 00:19:23,703 --> 00:19:26,963         Right here. Take 'em.               Right here, right here.       448 00:19:26,998 --> 00:19:28,828        [reporter]   Police have             turned up the heat full-blast    449 00:19:28,875 --> 00:19:30,745              in the search                      for Byrne's killers,        450 00:19:30,794 --> 00:19:32,884       and there's a $30,000 reward                for information           451 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:34,591         leading to their arrest                   and conviction.           452 00:19:34,631 --> 00:19:36,721        A special police unit,            the Tactical Narcotics Team,     453 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,298              was created                    to battle drug dealers        454 00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:39,803           after the murder                     of Officer Byrne.          455 00:19:39,844 --> 00:19:41,644              [reporter]                       The police saturation        456 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,930        in the Jamaica Houses last           March was the first example     457 00:19:43,974 --> 00:19:46,944      of the Tactical Narcotics Team             program in action.         458 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:48,267            In the past year,          459 00:19:48,311 --> 00:19:50,191             there have been                   more than 8,000 arrests       460 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:52,940       in the $110 million program     461 00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:56,953       that will soon be expanding              to all five boroughs.        462 00:19:56,987 --> 00:19:58,407           The game changed           463 00:19:58,446 --> 00:20:00,736               as far as                    narcotics investigations       464 00:20:00,782 --> 00:20:01,782           in New York City.          465 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,535           They established                     a unit called TNT          466 00:20:04,577 --> 00:20:06,867     and they were very aggressive           in trying to, you know,       467 00:20:06,913 --> 00:20:09,423        stop the sale of drugs               in projects, et cetera.       468 00:20:09,457 --> 00:20:10,787               [Prince]                     The Tactical Narcotics Squad    469 00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:13,464             swept things up                     and tore things up.         470 00:20:13,503 --> 00:20:16,923        It put so many poor people               of color in prison.         471 00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:18,425        They didn't just devastate                  South Jamaica.           472 00:20:18,466 --> 00:20:21,966       It swept through all states,                   all hoods,             473 00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:23,182                California                     all the way to Chicago.       474 00:20:23,221 --> 00:20:25,431                                      475 00:20:25,473 --> 00:20:26,683           The Senate today           476 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,635         put the deadly force                 of the death penalty         477 00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:30,685         behind this country's                battle against drugs.        478 00:20:30,729 --> 00:20:32,109              [reporter]                     Any drug-connected killing     479 00:20:32,147 --> 00:20:33,517       of a law enforcement officer    480 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:35,645          or a murder on behalf                 of a drug organization       481 00:20:35,692 --> 00:20:37,442                could lead                      to the death penalty.        482 00:20:37,485 --> 00:20:40,195             dramatic music          483 00:20:40,238 --> 00:20:42,988                                      484 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:47,123           [Nas]   TNT wanted                    the Supreme Team bad.        485 00:20:47,162 --> 00:20:49,712     [Prince]   Neither Preme nor I     486 00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:53,338         or anybody that was part           of the so-called Supreme Team    487 00:20:53,376 --> 00:20:56,666        approved of killing cops,                    point blank.            488 00:20:56,713 --> 00:20:58,593            It was illogical,                      it was immoral,           489 00:20:58,631 --> 00:21:01,341         it was the dumbest shit                    in the world.            490 00:21:01,384 --> 00:21:03,094               [Supreme]                   That's one of the first rules    491 00:21:03,136 --> 00:21:05,466          of a organized group.        492 00:21:05,513 --> 00:21:07,603             It's, you know,                  you leave the police alone     493 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,440         if you wish to continue                    to make money.           494 00:21:10,477 --> 00:21:13,017            But if you notice,                    I said organized.          495 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:15,363       Unlike a group of wild dudes               with no objective          496 00:21:15,398 --> 00:21:17,188           or long-term goals.         497 00:21:17,233 --> 00:21:19,943          soft dramatic music        498 00:21:19,986 --> 00:21:22,696                                      499 00:21:22,739 --> 00:21:24,449       We're here this afternoon                   to announce             500 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:27,871    a federal grand jury indicting    501 00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,871        a Howard "Pappy" Mason                   for the murder            502 00:21:29,913 --> 00:21:31,713            of police officer                       Edward Byrnes.           503 00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:33,578                                      504 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:36,705     Pappy Mason was a lieutenant             to "Fat Cat" Nichols.        505 00:21:36,753 --> 00:21:39,763                                      506 00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:41,258              [reporter]                      They call him "Fat Cat."      507 00:21:41,299 --> 00:21:42,719           At the age of 28,          508 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:44,679            Lorenzo Nichols                controls the major portion      509 00:21:44,719 --> 00:21:47,559          of the $100 million                    crack operation           510 00:21:47,597 --> 00:21:50,227       in South Jamaica, Queens.      511 00:21:50,266 --> 00:21:54,976    [Prince]   Preme, Cat, and Corley       were the main dealers, right?    512 00:21:55,021 --> 00:21:56,311         They were the main ones       513 00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:59,396          that mainly stood out                    on 150th Street.          514 00:21:59,442 --> 00:22:02,652         Fat Cat had his own crew           and Supreme had his own crew,    515 00:22:02,695 --> 00:22:04,155          so that's how they got                 to know each other,         516 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:05,987           Fat Cat and Supreme.        517 00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:08,492      [reporter]   Lorenzo Nichols               is accused of running        518 00:22:08,535 --> 00:22:10,325       the biggest crack operation                    in Queens              519 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:12,660          and perhaps the city.        520 00:22:12,705 --> 00:22:15,535               [Robert]                     And although he took orders     521 00:22:15,583 --> 00:22:17,923         from Fat Cat for a time,      522 00:22:17,961 --> 00:22:20,591            Pappy had decided                    he was his own boss         523 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:24,180        and it was he who arranged     524 00:22:24,217 --> 00:22:27,427         for Byrnes' killing.         525 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:29,100     The sources who are familiar                 with the case            526 00:22:29,139 --> 00:22:31,929           say Mason thought              murdering a New York City cop    527 00:22:31,975 --> 00:22:33,935    would please his friend Nichols  528 00:22:33,977 --> 00:22:36,807      because Nichols was angry over        receiving a 25-year sentence    529 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:39,475          on the weapons charges                  just a day before.         530 00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:40,784             The sources say                       that the murder,          531 00:22:40,817 --> 00:22:42,067         in fact, angered Nichols      532 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:44,110           because he believes                    that was the event         533 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:45,744            that brought down                      the full weight           534 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:47,660            of both the state                  and federal governments       535 00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:49,619           on his organization,                      his family,             536 00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,159       and ultimately, himself.       537 00:22:51,202 --> 00:22:52,752                                      538 00:22:52,787 --> 00:22:54,207               [Prince]                     That changed a lot of lives.    539 00:22:54,247 --> 00:22:56,247           It changed the lives                  of the Byrne family,        540 00:22:56,291 --> 00:22:58,081           it changed the lives                of those in the street,       541 00:22:58,126 --> 00:22:59,746         and it changed my life.       542 00:22:59,794 --> 00:23:02,054                                      543 00:23:02,088 --> 00:23:04,048            After the killing                      of Edward Byrne,          544 00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:07,300           that whole lifestyle                      of hustling,            545 00:23:07,343 --> 00:23:10,433        definitely selling drugs,             was completely obliterated     546 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:11,562              if you ask me.           547 00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,308      I'm not saying it didn't stop,  548 00:23:13,349 --> 00:23:15,939             I'm saying that                 it stopped for 150th Street.    549 00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:18,397                                      550 00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:20,648         [Supreme]   But as far                      as Ed Byrnes,            551 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:23,070      I thought that was a tragedy.    552 00:23:23,109 --> 00:23:26,319          I would never condone                such a detrimental act.       553 00:23:26,362 --> 00:23:28,492                                      554 00:23:28,531 --> 00:23:31,831         That was a big disaster                     right there.            555 00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:34,948           'Cause it fucked up                    everybody's money.         556 00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:36,656         Once they started moving                     everybody,             557 00:23:36,706 --> 00:23:38,166            that's when things                       just started            558 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:41,838      going in different directions              all over the place.         559 00:23:41,878 --> 00:23:45,548         It fucked up everything.      560 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:49,180     At that point, you knew that          a major shift was happening     561 00:23:49,219 --> 00:23:51,009       and everything was gonna                   be shut down.            562 00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:52,684                                      563 00:23:52,722 --> 00:23:53,932       It would never be the same.     564 00:23:53,973 --> 00:23:56,233                                      565 00:23:56,267 --> 00:23:58,187              upbeat music           566 00:23:58,228 --> 00:23:59,518             There it is!             567 00:23:59,562 --> 00:24:01,612        The New Year's Eve Ball                 in Times Square,           568 00:24:01,648 --> 00:24:03,778            the Big Apple,                     New York City, USA.         569 00:24:03,816 --> 00:24:05,236             We are live!             570 00:24:05,276 --> 00:24:06,316          [party horn toots]          571 00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:09,111          [person]   Two, one!          572 00:24:09,155 --> 00:24:11,155        Happy New Year, everybody!     573 00:24:11,199 --> 00:24:14,039             Meli'sa Morgan's               "Fool's Paradise" playing      574 00:24:14,077 --> 00:24:17,497                                      575 00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:19,039              [reporter]                     Nelson Mandela walked out      576 00:24:19,082 --> 00:24:22,042      of Victor Verster Prison today           like a chief of state.       577 00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:23,665      [kid]   Now that I've gotten                  on the internet,          578 00:24:23,711 --> 00:24:26,881     I'd rather be on my computer        than doing just about anything.  579 00:24:26,923 --> 00:24:29,053           [announcer] Cats                at the Winter Garden Theatre!    580 00:24:29,092 --> 00:24:32,472                                      581 00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:35,972        I'm taking out this time     582 00:24:36,015 --> 00:24:39,555       I know that all Americans                 took great joy            583 00:24:39,602 --> 00:24:41,062            in the liberation                      of Kuwait City.           584 00:24:41,104 --> 00:24:42,564               [gunfire]              585 00:24:42,605 --> 00:24:45,065     I experimented with marijuana                a time or two            586 00:24:45,108 --> 00:24:46,398         and I didn't like it.        587 00:24:46,442 --> 00:24:49,572          This was a managed              and controlled use of force.     588 00:24:49,612 --> 00:24:51,032           [sirens wailing]           589 00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:52,872     [reporter]   Fires are burning                  in both towers           590 00:24:52,907 --> 00:24:54,827        of the World Trade Center.     591 00:24:54,867 --> 00:24:56,997    [reporter]   The City of New York               at this point            592 00:24:57,036 --> 00:24:59,326            could be compared                      to the   Titanic,           593 00:24:59,372 --> 00:25:01,712      and the customers of this city  594 00:25:01,749 --> 00:25:05,799            are seeking a man                of his talent and direction.    595 00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:08,297         And that is why we're              supporting Rudy Giuliani.      596 00:25:08,339 --> 00:25:10,129              -Thank you.                          -[applause]             597 00:25:10,174 --> 00:25:13,184           The Giuliani era,                  it's interesting when        598 00:25:13,219 --> 00:25:14,929     you talk to white New Yorkers           and Black New Yorkers,        599 00:25:14,971 --> 00:25:16,431          how we remember it                     so differently.           600 00:25:16,472 --> 00:25:17,772      -How are you? Good morning.         -[reporter] Good to see you.     601 00:25:17,807 --> 00:25:19,387             Good morning.                Feels terrific this morning.     602 00:25:19,434 --> 00:25:21,524      [Joy]   You know, I think for           a lot of white New Yorkers,     603 00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:23,021      they remember it as, you know,  604 00:25:23,062 --> 00:25:24,362            when Times Square               turned into Disneyland, right?  605 00:25:24,397 --> 00:25:25,857        Because he basically sold                all of Times Square         606 00:25:25,898 --> 00:25:27,358           to big corporations                and made it really pretty.     607 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,860      And for Black New Yorkers,            it was a terrifying time.      608 00:25:30,903 --> 00:25:35,873            Fool's paradise          609 00:25:35,908 --> 00:25:37,868         You better think twice      610 00:25:37,910 --> 00:25:40,250       'Cause it's not very nice     611 00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:41,908                  Ooh                612 00:25:41,956 --> 00:25:43,876      [Nas]   I remember growing up               and all on the news,        613 00:25:43,916 --> 00:25:47,456           we were criminalized               and demonized all the time     614 00:25:47,503 --> 00:25:49,093          to create this fear         615 00:25:49,130 --> 00:25:51,090        that Black people were           the only criminals in America.    616 00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:53,222                                      617 00:25:53,259 --> 00:25:55,179      [Eric]   We still had pockets                 of communities,           618 00:25:55,219 --> 00:25:57,679           the Brownsvilles,                   these 40 Projects,          619 00:25:57,722 --> 00:25:59,222          these South Bronx.          620 00:25:59,265 --> 00:26:02,185     We had pockets of communities            that were left behind        621 00:26:02,226 --> 00:26:03,186          during those '90s.          622 00:26:04,812 --> 00:26:06,362            What we didn't do          623 00:26:06,397 --> 00:26:10,067       as we allowed the popularity             of our New York brand        624 00:26:10,109 --> 00:26:13,949         to continue to grow,                   we did not ensure          625 00:26:13,988 --> 00:26:17,158        that popularity turned            into prosperity for everyone.    626 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,950             Urban renewal                     was Negro removal.          627 00:26:20,995 --> 00:26:22,115                 Why?                 628 00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:24,713       Because in large cities,       629 00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:27,999              the people                    who government displaced,      630 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:31,344       buying out their buildings,               forcing people out,         631 00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:34,841               were largely                     communities of color.        632 00:26:34,884 --> 00:26:37,184         It destroyed communities             instead of building them.      633 00:26:40,014 --> 00:26:42,524        The official narrative is      634 00:26:42,558 --> 00:26:45,348         that all of the problems                with public housing         635 00:26:45,395 --> 00:26:50,185        have to do with criminals,     636 00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:53,783         and the solution is,                  for them, policing.         637 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,450         [cheers and applause]        638 00:26:56,489 --> 00:27:00,579     [Rudy]   I have seen our people              in every community.         639 00:27:00,618 --> 00:27:03,328          They're all saying                     the same thing.           640 00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:06,211     "Please help us reduce crime.    641 00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:09,379               "Please.               642 00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:11,249           "Please help us.           643 00:27:11,295 --> 00:27:14,215        "Please help us reduce                the scourge of drugs         644 00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:16,587        that is destroying us."       645 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:19,894      [Tom]   When our dear friend            Rudy Giuliani became mayor,     646 00:27:19,929 --> 00:27:22,349       this is what he tried to do,    647 00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:27,100     and the system was not geared              to public safety.          648 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:31,765         It was really geared                to maintaining control        649 00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:35,396     by almost an occupying force.    650 00:27:35,445 --> 00:27:36,985                                      651 00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:38,359           There's a war goin'                      on outside             652 00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:39,736          No man is safe from        653 00:27:39,782 --> 00:27:41,832               You can run,                 but you can't hide forever     654 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,328            From these streets                  that we done took          655 00:27:44,370 --> 00:27:46,540          You walking with your             head down, scared to look      656 00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:48,251               You shook             657 00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:49,541       'Cause ain't no such things              as halfway crooks          658 00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:51,384             [Eddie]   Well,                   there was a big difference     659 00:27:51,419 --> 00:27:55,719      just when Dinkins left office            and Giuliani took over.       660 00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:58,887     I'm gonna be honest with you.        We were able to do our jobs.     661 00:27:58,926 --> 00:28:01,756            Under Giuliani,              the police department was back.  662 00:28:01,804 --> 00:28:04,814       It was a whole new ballgame.    663 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:06,679     [Bill]   He trusted two people                   at the time,            664 00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:09,516          which was Bill Bratton              as his police commissioner     665 00:28:09,562 --> 00:28:13,072       and Jack Maple as his deputy          commissioner of operations.     666 00:28:13,107 --> 00:28:16,357         And the two of them had              devised a management plan      667 00:28:16,402 --> 00:28:20,532       that would hold precinct              commanders accountable.       668 00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:23,243       They expected the police               to go out and engage.        669 00:28:23,284 --> 00:28:24,834    [Derrick]   Giuliani said, "Look,  670 00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:26,119               "we have the                     broken windows policy        671 00:28:26,162 --> 00:28:27,712           "where it's we leave                   the windows broken         672 00:28:27,747 --> 00:28:30,077        and nobody's fixing them,           so now we're gonna fix them."    673 00:28:30,124 --> 00:28:32,214            So they went after                    the squeegee guys,         674 00:28:32,251 --> 00:28:33,631            the graffiti guys.         675 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:36,629      The low-level crimes would           lead you to bigger crimes,      676 00:28:36,672 --> 00:28:38,012           and it did work.           677 00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:41,259        However, the public saw it                   as a problem            678 00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:43,302        'cause the stop-and-frisk                    part of it,             679 00:28:43,346 --> 00:28:45,466           it would stop many,                  you know, minorities.        680 00:28:45,515 --> 00:28:46,965                [Bill]                             And it worked.           681 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:49,806         I mean, it cleaned up              the streets of New York.       682 00:28:49,852 --> 00:28:51,102       It took about five years       683 00:28:51,145 --> 00:28:53,895           and New York City                 was a different place.        684 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:56,690      [Supreme]   The local police,                 the detectives,           685 00:28:56,734 --> 00:28:58,694           they held a grudge.         686 00:28:58,736 --> 00:29:00,026              When they lose                      one of their owns,         687 00:29:00,071 --> 00:29:02,451          they fault everybody,        688 00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:04,530        whether you had something               to do with it or not.        689 00:29:04,575 --> 00:29:06,865      [indistinct radio chatter]      690 00:29:06,911 --> 00:29:08,251           In New York City,          691 00:29:08,287 --> 00:29:10,117         officials have taken                a big bite out of crime       692 00:29:10,164 --> 00:29:11,504     and the mayor is now claiming    693 00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:15,041           that New York is              the safest big city in America.  694 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:17,836       The New York City Police              Department, last year,        695 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,380      did, I think, the best job         it's ever done in his history.    696 00:29:21,425 --> 00:29:23,465      [Joy]   I never really feared               Black people, right?        697 00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:25,511        I knew where to avoid,               I knew where not to go.       698 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:28,675    You couldn't avoid the police.    699 00:29:28,724 --> 00:29:30,394          They were everywhere.        700 00:29:30,434 --> 00:29:31,644          They were pulling over              the gypsy cab you were in.     701 00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:33,146            [siren bleeps]            702 00:29:33,187 --> 00:29:36,687          Amadou Diallo was shot               like 41-something times.      703 00:29:36,732 --> 00:29:39,942        His mother, Kadiatou, was,            like begging for justice,      704 00:29:39,986 --> 00:29:40,896          and nothing happened.        705 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:42,405         We are here for this         706 00:29:42,446 --> 00:29:44,986      and we will come back again            until justice is done!        707 00:29:45,032 --> 00:29:46,782                 [Joy]                        Abner Louima is the one       708 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:49,036           who gets dragged in                      to the police            709 00:29:49,078 --> 00:29:51,908              and, you know,                  sodomized and brutalized.      710 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:57,842                 [Joy]                       And Giuliani does nothing.     711 00:29:57,879 --> 00:30:00,049        He goes right to the cops,             he sides with the cops.       712 00:30:00,089 --> 00:30:02,719      It's basically a free-for-all.  713 00:30:02,758 --> 00:30:05,508        [overlapping shouting]        714 00:30:05,553 --> 00:30:07,053         Police could do whatever                     they want              715 00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:08,716      in New York City in that era.    716 00:30:08,764 --> 00:30:09,894      [officer] Hands behind you.     717 00:30:11,267 --> 00:30:12,807          [Prince]   You know,                   I wanted to make sure        718 00:30:12,852 --> 00:30:15,312             that my stepson                       and my daughter           719 00:30:15,354 --> 00:30:18,234      wouldn't be around the ghetto          environment of drug-selling     720 00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:21,074        and watching those things               that I saw coming up,        721 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:22,900             'cause it wasn't                    inside my household         722 00:30:22,945 --> 00:30:24,855           that made me revert                     to the streets,           723 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:26,566        it was the streets itself      724 00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:29,036        that was always constantly                   in my face.             725 00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:32,997           [birds chirping]           726 00:30:34,957 --> 00:30:37,587         [Tuff]   This was home.        727 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:39,297        Lot of memories right now.     728 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,507        You know, my mind is going            a lot of different places.     729 00:30:43,591 --> 00:30:47,091         We just lived really out            of the way, under the radar,    730 00:30:47,136 --> 00:30:50,346          and, you know, nobody                could find us back here.      731 00:30:53,267 --> 00:30:56,227    He made this for us to live in,  732 00:30:56,270 --> 00:30:59,110        to have and to be safe.       733 00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:01,568      That's what he did for us,                    for this.              734 00:31:01,609 --> 00:31:04,949    And we went through everything         over there, the Southside,      735 00:31:04,987 --> 00:31:08,867      and this is where we landed          and this is where it ended.     736 00:31:08,908 --> 00:31:09,988              Right here.             737 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,040               [Suzette]                    It was a mixed neighborhood.    738 00:31:15,081 --> 00:31:16,581         Kids could play outside.      739 00:31:16,624 --> 00:31:18,294         You don't have to worry                      about it.              740 00:31:18,334 --> 00:31:21,634              Pretty quiet.                      Everybody got along.        741 00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:23,761        It's a good neighborhood.      742 00:31:23,798 --> 00:31:26,878     Until one day, it was chaos.     743 00:31:26,926 --> 00:31:28,676             dramatic music          744 00:31:28,719 --> 00:31:30,599                                      745 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,598      Me and Prince was knocked out,            sleeping in the bed.        746 00:31:33,641 --> 00:31:34,981             [loud crash]             747 00:31:35,017 --> 00:31:36,847        Like, 5:00 in the morning                     they came,             748 00:31:36,894 --> 00:31:38,104           kicking the door in.        749 00:31:38,145 --> 00:31:41,435       [screaming and crashing]       750 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,816    He literally took me and, like,          put me behind a door.        751 00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:47,280      Like, "Stay down," because           we didn't know what it was.     752 00:31:47,321 --> 00:31:48,861        [police radio chatter]        753 00:31:48,906 --> 00:31:50,986        I literally thought it was            somebody coming to kill us     754 00:31:51,033 --> 00:31:52,453           until they announced                      themselves.             755 00:31:52,493 --> 00:31:53,663            [officer on PA]                     This is the police!         756 00:31:53,703 --> 00:31:57,163                                      757 00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:59,076               [Prince]                     Before they came, actually,     758 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:03,665       around 3:23 in the morning,           [bleep] called the house...     759 00:32:03,713 --> 00:32:06,173            [phone ringing]           760 00:32:06,215 --> 00:32:07,625       He asked, "Is Prince there?"    761 00:32:07,675 --> 00:32:09,795                She said,                      "Yeah, Prince is there.       762 00:32:09,844 --> 00:32:10,934       You want me to wake him up?"    763 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:12,350                 He said,                      "No, don't wake him up.       764 00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:13,968           "Just open the door,                keep the door unlocked.       765 00:32:14,015 --> 00:32:15,675          -I'm on my way home."                     -[pounding]             766 00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:16,925        And when the police came,      767 00:32:16,976 --> 00:32:19,016        they walked right through                  the front door.           768 00:32:19,061 --> 00:32:20,351               [officer]                        You're under arrest!        769 00:32:20,396 --> 00:32:24,186                                      770 00:32:24,233 --> 00:32:25,283               [Suzette]                       We didn't even notice        771 00:32:25,317 --> 00:32:26,487       that they were in the house     772 00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,357           until they pushed                   our room door open.         773 00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:32,365       And then Prince was so--            I think I had on a t-shirt      774 00:32:32,408 --> 00:32:35,328         and we were sleeping             and Prince was fussing like,     775 00:32:35,369 --> 00:32:37,909      "Let her put her pants on."          That's all he cared about.      776 00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:41,035           [sirens wailing]           777 00:32:41,083 --> 00:32:43,043                [Tuff]                         I was butt-ass naked.        778 00:32:43,085 --> 00:32:44,415           I don't even know                   what they grabbed.          779 00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:46,092         My skin? I don't know            how the fuck they got me up.     780 00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:48,550     Oh, that big-ass motherfucker                 tossed me.              781 00:32:48,591 --> 00:32:52,551       And he just commenced to,           you know, whipping my ass.      782 00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:55,555         He started asking me                   about some money.          783 00:32:55,598 --> 00:32:57,218           "Where the money?                    Where's the guns?          784 00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:58,676          Where's the drugs?"         785 00:32:58,726 --> 00:32:59,886         And I'm like, "Dude,              we don't do that in here."      786 00:32:59,935 --> 00:33:03,395                                      787 00:33:03,439 --> 00:33:04,359               [Suzette]                     They stayed in the house,      788 00:33:04,398 --> 00:33:05,978       putting holes in our walls.     789 00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:08,565           So they--literally,              we had big holes in the walls.  790 00:33:08,611 --> 00:33:11,201           They was just, like,                 busting the walls out.       791 00:33:11,238 --> 00:33:13,528        Put our minks in the water                 in the bathtub.           792 00:33:13,574 --> 00:33:17,244                                      793 00:33:17,286 --> 00:33:18,906     We was all kind of face-down                 on the floor             794 00:33:18,954 --> 00:33:19,664     in the living room for hours.    795 00:33:19,705 --> 00:33:23,325                                      796 00:33:23,375 --> 00:33:24,745             [Tuff]   We in                     that goddamn living room      797 00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:26,424       on that pastel pink carpet.     798 00:33:26,462 --> 00:33:30,222         He over here handcuffed,             I'm over here handcuffed.      799 00:33:30,257 --> 00:33:34,177     And we just eye-communicated.    800 00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:37,390         And I nodded my head.              I know what we're doing.       801 00:33:37,431 --> 00:33:40,731      And he was just making sure           that I was still in tune.      802 00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,478            soft tense music         803 00:33:43,521 --> 00:33:48,611                                      804 00:33:48,651 --> 00:33:51,781     [Suzette]   I think they kinda          got upset after a little while  805 00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:52,781         'cause they was like,        806 00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:54,202     "Okay, what are y'all hiding                   in here?"              807 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,660        And I'm like, "Search.                There's nothing here.        808 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:57,540          This is our home."          809 00:33:57,576 --> 00:33:58,906    And Prince literally said that.  810 00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,793        Like, "This is my home.              There's nothing here."        811 00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:03,671    But they stayed for literally--  812 00:34:03,707 --> 00:34:06,457         I'm gonna say, like,               maybe five or six hours?       813 00:34:06,502 --> 00:34:08,252    And then they finally took him.  814 00:34:08,295 --> 00:34:10,835                                      815 00:34:10,881 --> 00:34:12,681         We was, like, in tears.       816 00:34:12,716 --> 00:34:16,216        And he kept reassuring us,              "I'm okay, I'm okay."        817 00:34:16,262 --> 00:34:17,262           Handcuffed while                     he's walking out,          818 00:34:17,304 --> 00:34:18,764              he's like,                    "Don't worry. I'm okay,"       819 00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:20,306        trying to calm us down.       820 00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:22,559      And we just kind of watched              them take him away,         821 00:34:22,601 --> 00:34:24,151          put him in the car,                and they took him away        822 00:34:24,186 --> 00:34:25,896       and he kept looking back                   just saying,             823 00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:26,978        "It's okay. I'm okay."        824 00:34:27,022 --> 00:34:31,112                                      825 00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:33,702               So that day                      was pretty memorable.        826 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:38,700                Crazy.                827 00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:44,290           [Prince]   Oh, man.                   Let me tell you, man.        828 00:34:44,331 --> 00:34:45,961                 It was--                      looking back at everyone      829 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,670        cuffed behind their backs           like that broke my heart, man.  830 00:34:49,712 --> 00:34:51,382         It was the worst feeling                    I had, man.             831 00:34:51,422 --> 00:34:53,922         They was taking me out.                   Man, I was hurt.          832 00:34:53,966 --> 00:34:56,176            Nah, I wasn't even                  thinking about myself.       833 00:34:56,218 --> 00:34:57,928        I was thinking about them,                       man.                834 00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:59,050        You know, I didn't realize     835 00:34:59,096 --> 00:35:00,306             that that would                       be the last day           836 00:35:00,347 --> 00:35:02,927          that I would actually                     be a free man.           837 00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:04,345      [indistinct radio chatter]      838 00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:06,733          That was the worst day                   of my life, man.          839 00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:08,650            [phone beeping]           840 00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,112         [Nas]   Prince had been                in and out of the system      841 00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:14,571                for years,                     but always made it out.       842 00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:18,122           Why would this time                      be different?            843 00:35:18,157 --> 00:35:20,367      He knew what he needed to do.    844 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:25,869     [Joyce]   My first introduction              to the Supreme Team         845 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:29,125        was through Gerald Miller,             who is known as Prince.       846 00:35:29,168 --> 00:35:30,498         And he was considered        847 00:35:30,544 --> 00:35:33,714     the head of the Supreme Team                at that point.            848 00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:36,176               [Prince]                     Ms. London tore the case up.    849 00:35:36,217 --> 00:35:37,717      So she helped prepare the case  850 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,350             before it end up                      going to trial,           851 00:35:39,386 --> 00:35:41,716      and she did a good job of it.    852 00:35:41,764 --> 00:35:43,894          I go to see Gerald.         853 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:48,233            He seemed fine                  with my representing him.      854 00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:52,020      Whether it was the best of         a bad deal or whatever it was,    855 00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:53,476     but he and I got along well,     856 00:35:53,525 --> 00:35:56,355              and he felt                    we could work together.       857 00:35:57,529 --> 00:36:00,409          soft dramatic music        858 00:36:00,449 --> 00:36:04,199                                      859 00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,405    [Prince]   There's so many things         I wanted to be growing up.     860 00:36:06,455 --> 00:36:08,165            And I wasn't stuck                    on just one thing.         861 00:36:08,207 --> 00:36:10,327      I wanted to be several things,           you know what I mean?        862 00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:11,836           I definitely wanted                     to be a lawyer,           863 00:36:11,877 --> 00:36:14,087            and that's because                  I watched   Perry Mason.       864 00:36:14,129 --> 00:36:16,669        I watched that joint 24/7.     865 00:36:16,715 --> 00:36:18,925             And I loved it.                    I just loved it, man.        866 00:36:18,968 --> 00:36:19,968            I don't know what.         867 00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:21,390       It just clicked in my head,     868 00:36:21,428 --> 00:36:23,638               and I said,                  "Man, I want to be a lawyer."    869 00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:26,731                                      870 00:36:26,767 --> 00:36:30,597       [Joyce]   For Judge Dearie,            he was a former prosecutor.     871 00:36:30,646 --> 00:36:33,896      I would say that this case              was troubling to him.        872 00:36:33,941 --> 00:36:36,191        I think he always felt                    that it was--            873 00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:40,945    there was a push-pull situation         where he was determined       874 00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,450      that Gerald would not exert                  any control             875 00:36:43,492 --> 00:36:45,792      over the trial or the case.     876 00:36:45,828 --> 00:36:47,908              He wanted him                   to sit quiet at the table      877 00:36:47,955 --> 00:36:48,905          and not say anything.        878 00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:52,576          That's not Gerald's MO                       in life.              879 00:36:52,626 --> 00:36:54,626        It was a great experience                    as a lawyer.            880 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:57,720          Gerald knew every fact                   about his case.           881 00:36:57,756 --> 00:37:00,376          He knew the discovery                      inside-out.             882 00:37:00,426 --> 00:37:04,806      That was tremendously helpful.        It became crucial later on.     883 00:37:04,847 --> 00:37:07,097        [Prince]   What happened                 was after that arrest,       884 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:08,431             I get locked up,                      we go to court,           885 00:37:08,475 --> 00:37:10,595               and we start                       getting documents.         886 00:37:10,644 --> 00:37:12,444            And the documents,                   we get the wiretaps.        887 00:37:12,479 --> 00:37:15,689           Turned out my phone                     was wiretapped.           888 00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:18,903          He understood that              with the wiretaps coming in,     889 00:37:18,944 --> 00:37:21,744        the chances of getting            convicted on the drug charges    890 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:23,320           were pretty high.          891 00:37:23,365 --> 00:37:25,905    I mean, he had heard the tapes,      he had read the transcripts.     892 00:37:25,951 --> 00:37:28,501              He was charged                      with four murders          893 00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:31,167         in aid of racketeering,              and we both believed that      894 00:37:31,206 --> 00:37:34,376      if he could not get acquitted               on those murders,          895 00:37:34,418 --> 00:37:36,498              he would face                      a life imprisonment,        896 00:37:36,545 --> 00:37:40,255         so his recommendation                     was always,             897 00:37:40,299 --> 00:37:42,839         "Do whatever you can.        898 00:37:42,885 --> 00:37:45,425            Focus on that.                  We have to work on that."      899 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:46,811               And we did.             900 00:37:46,847 --> 00:37:51,267                                      901 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:53,440       The circumstances around it     902 00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:56,729        were that four Colombians      903 00:37:56,774 --> 00:37:59,534            were going to come                 to the projects involved      904 00:37:59,568 --> 00:38:02,948        and deliver a fairly large                amount of cocaine.         905 00:38:02,988 --> 00:38:06,028       And the government's theory               of the case was that        906 00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:08,735          they never walked out                  of the place alive.         907 00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:11,576      They took the drugs and didn't           want to pay for them.        908 00:38:11,622 --> 00:38:13,172        It wasn't their theory                     of the case             909 00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:14,577         that Gerald committed                    the murders,             910 00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:15,955        but it was their theory                    of the case             911 00:38:16,001 --> 00:38:17,711         that he ordered them.        912 00:38:17,753 --> 00:38:20,343     And we got old court records            that showed Gerald was        913 00:38:20,381 --> 00:38:22,841         in court on that day,                   in state court,           914 00:38:22,883 --> 00:38:25,393        and I remember arguing                    to the jury,             915 00:38:25,427 --> 00:38:28,217            "They're saying                that he called up and said,     916 00:38:28,263 --> 00:38:29,103       'Knock off these guys'?"       917 00:38:29,139 --> 00:38:31,849                                      918 00:38:31,892 --> 00:38:33,562                The jury--                  "Can you imagine him right now  919 00:38:33,602 --> 00:38:35,402               "walking up                      to the judge's phone,        920 00:38:35,437 --> 00:38:37,187              picking it up,                    and giving an order?"        921 00:38:37,231 --> 00:38:38,571               Picture it.             922 00:38:38,607 --> 00:38:39,777              And the judge                       is sitting there?          923 00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:41,357                You know,                     "Knock off these four guys     924 00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:43,072           and keep the drugs"?        925 00:38:43,112 --> 00:38:45,662    [Prince]   It was not a hard case                  to beat,              926 00:38:45,697 --> 00:38:47,157          because the only thing                     that tied me            927 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:50,869            was his testimony                    about a phone call.         928 00:38:50,911 --> 00:38:54,001          It turned out that the             wiretaps were illegally got,    929 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:56,459        so Judge starts thinking,           looked at everything and said,  930 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:57,960                "Hey, man.                    I'ma suppress these taps.      931 00:38:58,001 --> 00:38:59,591        It's illegal. Y'all didn't             have to use these taps."      932 00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:02,298    And I will say, to our credit,    933 00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:06,259           he was acquitted                  on the murder charges.        934 00:39:07,594 --> 00:39:09,224      [Nas]   Ever since Ed Byrnes,     935 00:39:09,263 --> 00:39:13,023        the cops had been looking            for a way to lock Prince up.    936 00:39:13,058 --> 00:39:16,478      When he straight-up beat their       fake murder charges in court,    937 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,070              it only added                     to the man's mystique.       938 00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:23,107    He was saying they was calling         John Gotti the Telfon Don.      939 00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:26,952     In my opinion, Gerald Miller              is the Teflon Don.          940 00:39:28,615 --> 00:39:32,075         The Black Teflon Don.        941 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:33,869           rhythmic thrumming        942 00:39:33,912 --> 00:39:35,662                                      943 00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:37,036           [Shannon]   It was                     a state case first.         944 00:39:37,082 --> 00:39:39,632          Everything was state.        945 00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:41,668           Prince went to trial                    for the murders,          946 00:39:41,712 --> 00:39:43,382           the four murders...         947 00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:45,222             and he beat it.           948 00:39:45,257 --> 00:39:49,967        Once he beat it, then the           state pressured the government  949 00:39:50,012 --> 00:39:52,142                to come                      and take the case over.       950 00:39:52,181 --> 00:39:53,891     They-they had nothing for us,    951 00:39:53,932 --> 00:39:56,272            and so they had                to holler at the big boys.      952 00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:58,060     You know who the big boys is.    953 00:39:58,103 --> 00:40:00,813                                      954 00:40:00,856 --> 00:40:02,606               [Prince]                     But what they did was then,     955 00:40:02,649 --> 00:40:04,489         they shot the case over                     to the feds.            956 00:40:04,526 --> 00:40:07,646         Took the same wiretaps,             used them in federal court,     957 00:40:07,696 --> 00:40:09,406         and filed different name                    of charges,             958 00:40:09,448 --> 00:40:12,278       but using the same evidence.    959 00:40:12,326 --> 00:40:14,236            I didn't know that                  they can even do that,       960 00:40:14,286 --> 00:40:15,496          know what I'm saying?        961 00:40:15,537 --> 00:40:16,497           I thought not guilty                    was not guilty,           962 00:40:16,538 --> 00:40:17,658        you know what I'm saying?      963 00:40:17,706 --> 00:40:19,956             But it's called                      dual sovereignty.          964 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,590          They let their illegal            wiretaps in because they said,  965 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,668            "This is the feds.                  This ain't the state."       966 00:40:24,713 --> 00:40:25,843          Know what I'm saying?        967 00:40:25,881 --> 00:40:27,011         They had different laws,                     they said.             968 00:40:27,049 --> 00:40:28,129             They let 'em in.          969 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,799           When that happened,                       I was like--            970 00:40:31,845 --> 00:40:33,465                 I said,                       "I can't believe this."       971 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:38,983         98% conviction rate.         972 00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:41,059      There's not so many people                that go to trial           973 00:40:41,104 --> 00:40:43,694      that they be so scared just          to face what they be facing     974 00:40:43,732 --> 00:40:45,362            in the federal                  as opposed to the state.       975 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,190     It's just totally different.     976 00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:50,526         The mandatory minimum              is ten years in the feds.      977 00:40:50,572 --> 00:40:51,872           You're down ten.           978 00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:56,039        What's fair about that?       979 00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,459              We knew it.                    We was prepared for it.       980 00:41:00,499 --> 00:41:01,669     That's why we went to trial.     981 00:41:01,708 --> 00:41:04,878           suspenseful music         982 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,340       [Nas]   The feds knew that             locking up Preme in the '80s    983 00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:10,181      didn't stop the Supreme Team.    984 00:41:10,217 --> 00:41:12,007          This time, they wanted                  to finish the job          985 00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:14,562           by locking up Prince                   and his associates         986 00:41:14,596 --> 00:41:16,886               all at once.            987 00:41:16,932 --> 00:41:20,142                [Bing]                       It was Prince, C-Justice,      988 00:41:20,185 --> 00:41:24,475           C, Pookie, Shannon,                       me, Tucker,             989 00:41:24,523 --> 00:41:25,903               Teddy, Ace.             990 00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:29,701                We was all                     on the same indictment.       991 00:41:29,736 --> 00:41:31,906              We all charged                   with RICO racketeering.       992 00:41:31,947 --> 00:41:34,407       So those are called acts           which you do inside the RICO,    993 00:41:34,449 --> 00:41:36,199     certain acts you get charged                     with.                994 00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:38,413                                      995 00:41:38,453 --> 00:41:40,293     [Derrick]   RICO's really what             they like to get you on,      996 00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:41,790            'cause that's the          997 00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:43,962         Racketeering Influenced                Corrupt Organization.        998 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:45,921      And once they get you on that,  999 00:41:45,961 --> 00:41:47,251              now, they can                      put pieces together         1000 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:49,416       and identify you as a gang,                 an organization.          1001 00:41:49,464 --> 00:41:51,974     And what happens is that when          you have an organization       1002 00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:56,099       that commits violent acts             by killing competitors,       1003 00:41:56,138 --> 00:41:59,928           by shooting rivals,                  by distributing drugs,       1004 00:41:59,975 --> 00:42:02,935        by intimidation and fear,      1005 00:42:02,978 --> 00:42:05,938        now you have a case that's          a recipe for the feds to say,    1006 00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:08,111     "Now we have a big case here     1007 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:10,610     that we can take out several         people in this organization."    1008 00:42:10,652 --> 00:42:11,862        And all you have to do                  is identify them.          1009 00:42:11,903 --> 00:42:14,113           You identify who                   the lieutenants are,         1010 00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:16,026         who the workers are,                  who the bosses are,         1011 00:42:16,074 --> 00:42:18,294         and you take them out                     one by one.             1012 00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:19,867              [reporter]                   Prosecutors refuse to comment    1013 00:42:19,911 --> 00:42:21,711       about a possible indictment,    1014 00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:23,287      but it is clear under RICO,     1015 00:42:23,332 --> 00:42:26,292     authorities have a new weapon           they are willing to use       1016 00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:27,745      to try and nail defendants      1017 00:42:27,794 --> 00:42:30,214      local prosecutors have been               unable to touch.           1018 00:42:30,255 --> 00:42:32,295                                      1019 00:42:32,341 --> 00:42:33,631     [Supreme]   And then everybody                  got tied to--            1020 00:42:33,675 --> 00:42:34,965          everybody got smeared                       with this.             1021 00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:36,640                And, like,                    that's what the police do.     1022 00:42:36,678 --> 00:42:39,178           They like to attach              as many bad things as possible  1023 00:42:39,222 --> 00:42:41,852           to your name just so                that they can vilify you      1024 00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:44,602         and demonize you so that              they can get rid of you.      1025 00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:46,515      [automated voice]   This call            is from a federal prison.      1026 00:42:46,563 --> 00:42:50,693                                      1027 00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:53,954     [Shannon]   That was their way          of cleaning up the hoods now.    1028 00:42:56,323 --> 00:43:00,873          And all the Blacks               and Hispanics in Manhattan,     1029 00:43:00,911 --> 00:43:03,331           Brooklyn, Queens,                   all over New York.          1030 00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:05,332                                      1031 00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:09,384             But that charge                   was mainly for the mob.       1032 00:43:09,419 --> 00:43:11,169          soft dramatic music        1033 00:43:11,213 --> 00:43:13,343                                      1034 00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:17,142    [Nas]   Queens has a long history         of mob and mafia activity.     1035 00:43:17,177 --> 00:43:20,427       RICO charges are nothing new                   in Queens.             1036 00:43:20,472 --> 00:43:22,852     [reporter]   Gambino crime boss                   John Gotti             1037 00:43:22,891 --> 00:43:24,851           and his co-defendant                     Frank Locasio            1038 00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:27,603       guilty on a host of felonies         that could send them to prison  1039 00:43:27,646 --> 00:43:28,266       for the rest of their lives.    1040 00:43:28,313 --> 00:43:30,193                                      1041 00:43:30,232 --> 00:43:31,692               [Prince]                       They put me in the cell,      1042 00:43:31,733 --> 00:43:33,363        and right across from us,      1043 00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:36,112            it was John Gotti.         1044 00:43:36,154 --> 00:43:38,124              People took us                       as drug dealers,          1045 00:43:38,156 --> 00:43:40,696            but the reason why              Supreme Team kind of stood out  1046 00:43:40,742 --> 00:43:44,332           against other people             is because we were organized,    1047 00:43:44,371 --> 00:43:46,711       and we was actually charged              with organized crime.        1048 00:43:46,748 --> 00:43:48,918              Same as Gotti.                      RICO. Same thing.          1049 00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:51,209                                      1050 00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:54,723      [Shannon]   We would go back           and forth to court with Gotti    1051 00:43:54,756 --> 00:43:57,626        and different big-time,                you know, Italians.         1052 00:43:57,676 --> 00:43:59,006             They were cool.           1053 00:43:59,052 --> 00:44:02,222                                      1054 00:44:02,264 --> 00:44:05,314           So my wife, she had                  got arrested with us.        1055 00:44:05,350 --> 00:44:09,350     And, um, they put all the men           in the back of the bus.       1056 00:44:09,396 --> 00:44:11,146                And um,               1057 00:44:11,189 --> 00:44:14,859        Prince had told my wife              that I was in the back,       1058 00:44:14,901 --> 00:44:18,031          so go in the back,             and the guard told her not to.    1059 00:44:18,071 --> 00:44:20,701          So then Gotti said,               "Listen. That's his wife.      1060 00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:22,911         Let her go back there                     with him."              1061 00:44:22,951 --> 00:44:25,581           The marshal said,             "Okay, she can go back there."    1062 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:27,210                                      1063 00:44:27,247 --> 00:44:29,747               And we just                       chilled in the back         1064 00:44:29,791 --> 00:44:32,001             till we got back                      to MCC New York.          1065 00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:38,340                                      1066 00:44:38,383 --> 00:44:41,853      [Joyce]   It was an adventure            in the surreal every day.      1067 00:44:41,887 --> 00:44:44,387                I mean,                    Gerald was always focused.      1068 00:44:44,431 --> 00:44:45,891          He knew what witnesses                     are coming,             1069 00:44:45,932 --> 00:44:47,562           what they would say,        1070 00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,271         he would have questions            he would want me to ask them.    1071 00:44:50,312 --> 00:44:54,982       He had one set of charges            of intimidating a witness      1072 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:58,065       and the government played            some tapes of phone calls      1073 00:44:58,111 --> 00:45:02,451    and after they had played them,          in one of the breaks,        1074 00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:03,951          Gerald said to me,          1075 00:45:03,992 --> 00:45:06,752     "We're playing the two tapes               they didn't play.          1076 00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:09,957             So I'm like,                   "You sure you want this?"      1077 00:45:09,998 --> 00:45:12,498           And he was like,              "Play them. Please play them."    1078 00:45:12,542 --> 00:45:13,792           And he was right.          1079 00:45:13,835 --> 00:45:15,085         When we played them,         1080 00:45:15,128 --> 00:45:17,208        I remember sitting down                     saying--               1081 00:45:17,255 --> 00:45:19,085     and saying to him, you know,               "You were right."          1082 00:45:19,132 --> 00:45:20,722    Didn't sound so bad after all.    1083 00:45:20,759 --> 00:45:21,639       And he did get acquitted                     on that.               1084 00:45:21,676 --> 00:45:24,176                                      1085 00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:29,271              His knowledge                 of those wiretapped materials    1086 00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:33,559      were probably the greatest              treasure I ever found        1087 00:45:33,605 --> 00:45:35,475       in criminal defense law.       1088 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:36,824          All of the defendants        1089 00:45:36,858 --> 00:45:38,278              were acquitted                    on the murder charges,       1090 00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:40,738      murder in aid of racketeering.  1091 00:45:40,779 --> 00:45:44,489       Gerald was acquitted on the           witness intimidation charges    1092 00:45:44,533 --> 00:45:47,583              and convicted                      of the drug charges         1093 00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:49,159          and the racketeering.        1094 00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:53,834                                      1095 00:45:53,875 --> 00:45:54,915     [Bing]   I forgot how many days    1096 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,090         the jury deliberated                     on our case.             1097 00:45:57,128 --> 00:46:00,878             But ultimate,                 they came with the decision     1098 00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:05,474       that wasn't in our favor,               but we respected it         1099 00:46:05,512 --> 00:46:07,012     'cause we know who we's are,     1100 00:46:07,055 --> 00:46:09,305       what we was involved in.       1101 00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:10,979          That's part of it.          1102 00:46:11,017 --> 00:46:13,647      But when you got that DNA,      1103 00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:14,437           can't break you.           1104 00:46:14,479 --> 00:46:17,979                                      1105 00:46:18,024 --> 00:46:20,904       I told that to the judge                 in the courtroom.          1106 00:46:20,944 --> 00:46:22,364         "You can't break me.                  You got some more?"         1107 00:46:22,404 --> 00:46:24,284                                      1108 00:46:24,322 --> 00:46:25,372             I got 19 years.           1109 00:46:25,407 --> 00:46:28,237                                      1110 00:46:28,285 --> 00:46:29,695       [Shannon]   They was trying                  to give me life,          1111 00:46:29,744 --> 00:46:32,164        but the judge said he seen            something different in me,     1112 00:46:32,205 --> 00:46:36,325        so he said he's just gonna               give me 360 months.         1113 00:46:36,376 --> 00:46:41,546                                      1114 00:46:47,262 --> 00:46:48,562        [Prince]   My father once                   told me, "Man,"           1115 00:46:48,597 --> 00:46:50,057            he said, "Listen.          1116 00:46:50,098 --> 00:46:52,518         Fast things don't last."      1117 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,729      And he was telling the truth,                      man.                1118 00:46:56,271 --> 00:46:57,691       When I lay in bed at night,     1119 00:46:57,731 --> 00:46:59,611      that's when my thoughts start                 to drift back            1120 00:46:59,649 --> 00:47:02,989      to the early days of my youth.  1121 00:47:03,028 --> 00:47:05,198       You know, and I ask myself,                      I say,               1122 00:47:05,238 --> 00:47:06,358       how was it that I developed     1123 00:47:06,406 --> 00:47:08,366             a criminal mind                     acquired character?         1124 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,659         If certain things hadn't             happened when I was young      1125 00:47:12,704 --> 00:47:14,504           and I wouldn't have                   saw certain things,         1126 00:47:14,539 --> 00:47:16,249       would I have turned this way            or not turned this way?       1127 00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:17,381                  Or...                1128 00:47:20,378 --> 00:47:24,418       You know, I've been in jail              since March 21, 1990.        1129 00:47:24,466 --> 00:47:26,636          My thing is that, man,                 I put myself in here        1130 00:47:26,676 --> 00:47:28,176          because for real, man,       1131 00:47:28,219 --> 00:47:30,219          I shouldn't have been                  out here doing that.        1132 00:47:30,263 --> 00:47:32,103           I haven't been home                       since then.             1133 00:47:34,851 --> 00:47:36,271                 [Nas]                       It was a different world.      1134 00:47:36,311 --> 00:47:38,441        It was no longer the '80s.     1135 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,070        So things are different                 on a major level.          1136 00:47:42,108 --> 00:47:43,608         Things are changing.         1137 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:45,532            Kool & the Gang's               "Slick Superchick" playing     1138 00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:47,410                                     1139 00:47:47,447 --> 00:47:48,777                 Yo                 1140 00:47:48,823 --> 00:47:50,033       [Nas]   Hip-hop jumped off,      1141 00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:51,365         and artists were making                     real money.             1142 00:47:51,409 --> 00:47:53,409             That's right.            1143 00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:57,423     [Nas]   The drug game no longer         seemed like the only way out.    1144 00:47:57,457 --> 00:47:59,247         It was just go time,                 you know what I mean?        1145 00:47:59,292 --> 00:48:02,462        Like, it was no longer            just about the five boroughs.    1146 00:48:02,504 --> 00:48:04,594          You know, Dre and them             started getting in the game     1147 00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:06,591     and it was like a whirlwind.     1148 00:48:06,633 --> 00:48:09,893          -How easy is this?                 -[cheers and applause]        1149 00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:11,678              [reporter]                    Music has power, all right.     1150 00:48:11,721 --> 00:48:13,061         The advertising industry      1151 00:48:13,098 --> 00:48:16,518           is betting rap music                   has selling power.         1152 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:18,229     [reporter]   Time Warner alone              made early $4 billion        1153 00:48:18,269 --> 00:48:19,809         selling music last year.      1154 00:48:19,854 --> 00:48:21,404            As for rap music,          1155 00:48:21,439 --> 00:48:23,979       it made up about $1 billion               of all music sales.         1156 00:48:24,025 --> 00:48:26,315         [cheers and applause]        1157 00:48:26,361 --> 00:48:29,161     [Nas]   Even though the Supreme            Team had been put away,       1158 00:48:29,197 --> 00:48:31,117             Prince, Supreme,                  and the rest of the guys      1159 00:48:31,157 --> 00:48:32,827          had left an impression                      on hip-hop             1160 00:48:32,867 --> 00:48:35,787         that was built to last.       1161 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:36,999               [Prince]                       We was hip-hop for real.      1162 00:48:37,038 --> 00:48:37,998        You know what I'm saying?      1163 00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:40,079         We was living that life,      1164 00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:41,245         and they turned the life                   we was living            1165 00:48:41,292 --> 00:48:43,882          into a rap story, man.       1166 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,510            They emulated us.          1167 00:48:47,549 --> 00:48:50,009          [Robert]   The reason                  I believe that McGriff       1168 00:48:50,051 --> 00:48:54,101        and the Supreme Team have             longevity in the community     1169 00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:55,679          is because of rap.          1170 00:48:55,724 --> 00:48:59,314           I didn't realize                we had influence back then,     1171 00:48:59,352 --> 00:49:02,812            but I realized it                   once I got locked up.        1172 00:49:02,856 --> 00:49:05,276                                      1173 00:49:05,316 --> 00:49:09,066        [Nas]   Preme left Queens              in the early days of rap.      1174 00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:10,742           Things had changed.         1175 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:13,660       This was now the golden age                   of hip-hop.             1176 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,830              Big business.            1177 00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:18,620             Around the time,                       it seemed like           1178 00:49:18,663 --> 00:49:22,503      every other song on the radio         had a Supreme Team reference.    1179 00:49:22,542 --> 00:49:25,052          It's the world-famous                 Supreme Team show          1180 00:49:25,086 --> 00:49:27,256            Supreme Team show,                      show, show             1181 00:49:27,297 --> 00:49:29,257            My team's Supreme,                      stay clean             1182 00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:31,589           Self-esteem make me               super superb and supreme      1183 00:49:31,634 --> 00:49:33,224              Supreme Team,                    America's Cream Team        1184 00:49:33,261 --> 00:49:35,061                Redeemed,                         Vidal Sassoon            1185 00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:39,354       [Prince]   A lot of times,                 young guys come in,         1186 00:49:39,392 --> 00:49:40,772              and they say,                      "Oh, you that person        1187 00:49:40,810 --> 00:49:42,310         I heard Nas rap about."       1188 00:49:42,353 --> 00:49:44,653       And then one time, somebody                 say, "Hey, man,           1189 00:49:44,689 --> 00:49:46,939         I remember Biggie said,            'My team Supreme, stay clean.'  1190 00:49:46,983 --> 00:49:48,613       Was he talking about y'all?"    1191 00:49:48,651 --> 00:49:50,741       And I laughed, they laughed,           you know what I'm saying?      1192 00:49:50,779 --> 00:49:52,239            It happens a lot.          1193 00:49:55,909 --> 00:49:57,159      [Robert]   During that time,      1194 00:49:57,202 --> 00:50:00,252        McGriff studied very hard                     in prison,             1195 00:50:00,288 --> 00:50:04,208         developed a vocabulary,       1196 00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:08,380           understood something                  about entertainment.        1197 00:50:08,421 --> 00:50:10,591              He didn't want                 to be a drug dealer anymore.    1198 00:50:10,632 --> 00:50:13,052            And he didn't want                to be an enforcer anymore,     1199 00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:17,563    and the entertainment business         was the next step for him.      1200 00:50:17,597 --> 00:50:18,927                                      1201 00:50:18,973 --> 00:50:20,563          [Nas]   In the '80s,          1202 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,100          Prince had taken over               while Preme was in prison.     1203 00:50:24,145 --> 00:50:26,435         Now things have flipped.      1204 00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:28,821                                      1205 00:50:28,858 --> 00:50:30,898        Preme was about to get out     1206 00:50:30,944 --> 00:50:34,614       just as Prince went back in.    1207 00:50:34,656 --> 00:50:36,906      [Bill]   When Prince goes in               and McGriff comes out,       1208 00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:39,330        this is a whole new game.      1209 00:50:39,369 --> 00:50:41,789             It's, you know,                    eight years in prison,       1210 00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:45,080    the whole music scene changes,         you know, fashion changes.      1211 00:50:45,125 --> 00:50:47,085        This industry with rappers     1212 00:50:47,127 --> 00:50:48,997                is, like,                      shooting off the charts.      1213 00:50:49,045 --> 00:50:51,795       Everybody wants to buy these           albums, kids in suburbia.      1214 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,010          So it must've been               kind of a shock to Supreme      1215 00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:55,340           when he came out           1216 00:50:55,385 --> 00:50:57,345         to see how the world                  changed so rapidly          1217 00:50:57,387 --> 00:51:00,137         and how he was gonna             reinvent himself in the game.    1218 00:51:00,181 --> 00:51:02,811         soft orchestral music       1219 00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:07,401    [Nas]   I remember people feeling       like Preme had a second shot.    1220 00:51:07,438 --> 00:51:10,318     I think all eyes was on him,                 so to speak.             1221 00:51:10,358 --> 00:51:12,398     I think people waiting to see    1222 00:51:12,443 --> 00:51:15,493         what mastermind move                  he was gonna make.          1223 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:18,950                                      1224 00:51:18,992 --> 00:51:20,832       [Supreme]   You can't plan                  to leave the game.         1225 00:51:20,869 --> 00:51:24,619          You just gotta leave.                You just gotta get out.       1226 00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:25,794              It's like war.           1227 00:51:25,832 --> 00:51:27,502          You don't wanna fight                     a war forever,           1228 00:51:27,542 --> 00:51:29,792              so the longer                     you stay in that war,        1229 00:51:29,836 --> 00:51:32,336       the greater the chances you                   get killed.             1230 00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:34,800                                      1231 00:51:34,841 --> 00:51:36,681            Who wants to stay                     in a war forever?          1232 00:51:36,718 --> 00:51:38,218             [phone beeping]           1233 00:51:39,387 --> 00:51:41,347               -Yo, fight!                               -Yo!                1234 00:51:41,389 --> 00:51:43,139             -What's up, man?                         -Hey, man.             1235 00:51:43,183 --> 00:51:45,893      -I was at this friend's house.       -And what was you doin', man?    1236 00:51:45,935 --> 00:51:48,185          -What's up with that?               -Man, I was doing the ooh.     1237 00:51:48,229 --> 00:51:50,189             And he was there                     the other night...         1238 00:51:50,231 --> 00:51:52,321                  -Yeah?                        -And I seen Chet, man.       1239 00:51:52,358 --> 00:51:54,068                  -Chet?                          -Yeah, Chet, man.          1240 00:51:54,110 --> 00:51:55,700          -What's up with Chet?                       -Hey, man.             1241 00:51:55,737 --> 00:51:57,857        -You grab the street vibe.                    -Oh, man.              1242 00:51:57,906 --> 00:52:00,826                -Ooh-wee!                             -Ooh-wee!              1243 00:52:00,867 --> 00:52:02,367          Hey, baby, come here.                  What's up with you?         1244 00:52:02,410 --> 00:52:04,080            -Where's the baby?                       -It's okay.             1245 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,790               -What's up?                      -Hey, what's up, Herc?       1246 00:52:05,830 --> 00:52:09,380              Jamaica funk,                     that's what it is          1247 00:52:09,417 --> 00:52:11,377                                      1248 00:52:11,419 --> 00:52:14,549          Let it get into you        1249 00:52:14,589 --> 00:52:18,379       Come on, I've got a groove   1250 00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:20,216         You know where I'll be      1251 00:52:20,261 --> 00:52:22,891          Funkin' for Jamaica        1252 00:52:22,931 --> 00:52:24,561            If ya feel it...