1 00:00:01,669 --> 00:00:04,003 (ominous music) 2 00:00:06,915 --> 00:00:09,758 - [narrator] three family members shot in cold blood. 3 00:00:16,684 --> 00:00:18,851 - This just doesn't happen here. 4 00:00:19,002 --> 00:00:22,079 - [narrator] the only eye witness fighting for her life. 5 00:00:22,172 --> 00:00:23,505 - The likelihood of her dying 6 00:00:23,524 --> 00:00:26,525 Was much greater than the likelihood of her surviving. 7 00:00:26,676 --> 00:00:28,610 - [narrator] evidence leads to a potential killer. 8 00:00:34,927 --> 00:00:36,994 - [narrator] investigators searching for answers. 9 00:00:39,765 --> 00:00:40,873 - [narrator] in the interrogation room. 10 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:50,049 (dramatic music) (clock ticking) 11 00:00:54,780 --> 00:00:56,871 - [narrator] every suspect accused of a crime 12 00:00:56,965 --> 00:00:58,782 Has the right to remain silent. 13 00:00:58,875 --> 00:01:01,618 Many agree to be interrogated anyway, 14 00:01:01,637 --> 00:01:04,471 But they can stop the interview at any moment, 15 00:01:04,565 --> 00:01:06,732 Making it a race against time. 16 00:01:08,552 --> 00:01:10,736 Justice hangs in the balance. 17 00:01:24,977 --> 00:01:26,827 - Alec kruger had called 911 18 00:01:26,979 --> 00:01:28,979 And reported that there had been an intruder 19 00:01:28,997 --> 00:01:29,980 At his residence, 20 00:01:30,073 --> 00:01:31,882 And that his parents had been shot. 21 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:36,887 You hear what sounds like a possible gunshot, 22 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:39,556 And then the call goes dead. 23 00:01:45,272 --> 00:01:47,898 (dramatic music) 24 00:02:00,346 --> 00:02:02,179 - Coming up to the house, 25 00:02:02,272 --> 00:02:03,680 There really wasn't any indication 26 00:02:03,699 --> 00:02:05,290 Of anything gone wrong. 27 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,204 - As you go up the stairs is the main bedroom 28 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:12,548 Or the master bedroom. 29 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:16,468 Alec was found lying on the bed, 30 00:02:17,805 --> 00:02:20,046 And tracy was on the floor on the opposite side of the bed 31 00:02:20,141 --> 00:02:20,973 In that main bedroom. 32 00:02:22,534 --> 00:02:25,460 Tracy kruger and alec kruger were both deceased, 33 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:28,147 And appeared to have multiple gunshot wounds. 34 00:02:29,558 --> 00:02:31,708 Hilary kruger had suffered a gunshot wound, 35 00:02:31,727 --> 00:02:35,228 And she was in very critical condition, 36 00:02:35,381 --> 00:02:36,880 But was able to communicate 37 00:02:36,973 --> 00:02:38,991 With the initial responding officers 38 00:02:39,218 --> 00:02:40,784 For at least a short period of time. 39 00:03:00,406 --> 00:03:02,997 (indistinct police radio chatter) 40 00:03:03,017 --> 00:03:05,091 - Anytime you take a gunshot wound 41 00:03:05,186 --> 00:03:06,185 At close range like that 42 00:03:06,336 --> 00:03:08,002 And have serious injuries, 43 00:03:08,022 --> 00:03:09,930 I think the likelihood of her dying 44 00:03:10,024 --> 00:03:13,358 Was much greater than the likelihood of her surviving. 45 00:03:28,951 --> 00:03:29,950 - We got in our car, 46 00:03:30,044 --> 00:03:33,361 And drove to one of his friend's house 47 00:03:33,455 --> 00:03:35,772 That we thought he would be at, 48 00:03:35,865 --> 00:03:37,382 And sure enough that's where zak was. 49 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:41,887 Then we sat down and explained what happened. 50 00:03:42,114 --> 00:03:46,725 And that was a very, very difficult conversation to have. 51 00:03:51,565 --> 00:03:53,732 That was one of the hardest things 52 00:03:53,959 --> 00:03:55,234 I've ever had to do. 53 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:59,738 (gentle music) 54 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:02,866 - We had a close knit family. 55 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:05,827 We loved each other very much. 56 00:04:10,233 --> 00:04:12,976 The relationship between my mom and dad, 57 00:04:12,995 --> 00:04:15,069 You could tell they truly loved each other, 58 00:04:15,089 --> 00:04:17,005 And they were always by each other's side. 59 00:04:20,076 --> 00:04:22,002 My dad was really into snowmobiles 60 00:04:22,096 --> 00:04:23,745 And snowmobile racing, 61 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:26,156 So we would always go and watch him. 62 00:04:26,174 --> 00:04:28,725 My mom would always be there cheering him on. 63 00:04:31,755 --> 00:04:32,846 - Tracy and hilary definitely had 64 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,422 The type of relationship 65 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:36,758 That everybody dreams about having. 66 00:04:36,852 --> 00:04:38,944 Just a perfect american family. 67 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:42,689 - I loved hanging out in the garage with my dad, 68 00:04:42,841 --> 00:04:46,359 Watching him work on cars or snowmobiles. 69 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:48,269 And my brother would always be 70 00:04:48,363 --> 00:04:49,621 Right next to him watching him. 71 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:54,034 He was just kind of a, 72 00:04:54,186 --> 00:04:56,295 That class clown that made everybody laugh. 73 00:04:58,299 --> 00:05:01,374 - I know alec would probably be just like his dad, 74 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:06,046 Making things go fast, working on snowmobiles, 75 00:05:06,198 --> 00:05:07,213 Doing things with his hands, 76 00:05:07,308 --> 00:05:08,432 Playing guitar. 77 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:11,459 And I know tracy would still be married to hilary, 78 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:14,704 And they'd be living a great life. 79 00:05:14,723 --> 00:05:17,482 Growing up on a farm, that was a dream of his, 80 00:05:17,634 --> 00:05:21,820 And unfortunately he was there for a very short time. 81 00:05:22,047 --> 00:05:23,488 I don't think they even lived in that house 82 00:05:23,715 --> 00:05:26,658 For a year and a half when this tragedy happened. 83 00:05:31,832 --> 00:05:34,333 - The background on the kruger family was 84 00:05:34,484 --> 00:05:37,819 They were just a standard middle america family 85 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:39,487 Living their lives and working their jobs, 86 00:05:39,581 --> 00:05:40,756 And raising their children. 87 00:05:42,659 --> 00:05:44,901 And so to have somebody come into their house, 88 00:05:44,994 --> 00:05:47,737 And attack them in this brutal fashion 89 00:05:47,831 --> 00:05:50,164 Didn't really make sense at first. 90 00:05:50,258 --> 00:05:51,850 There's a lot of unanswered questions, 91 00:05:52,001 --> 00:05:53,426 A lot of unknowns. 92 00:05:53,579 --> 00:05:55,579 Did somebody end up at the wrong house? 93 00:05:55,672 --> 00:05:57,839 Was there a confrontation at this house? 94 00:05:57,933 --> 00:05:59,524 What would be the motive? 95 00:05:59,751 --> 00:06:01,818 (suspenseful music) 96 00:06:07,109 --> 00:06:11,094 - They discovered a shotgun near the northeast bedroom, 97 00:06:11,113 --> 00:06:12,612 The phone off the hook, 98 00:06:12,764 --> 00:06:14,355 And shotgun shells lying throughout 99 00:06:14,449 --> 00:06:16,166 The upper staircase. 100 00:06:18,528 --> 00:06:20,437 - We suspected because of that gun 101 00:06:20,530 --> 00:06:22,122 Being in proximity to the bodies 102 00:06:22,216 --> 00:06:24,608 And empty shell casings at the top of the stairs 103 00:06:24,701 --> 00:06:26,343 That that was likely the murder weapon. 104 00:06:28,296 --> 00:06:30,463 - So when I first drove up that night, 105 00:06:30,616 --> 00:06:33,541 There were two vehicles stuck at the end of the driveway 106 00:06:33,635 --> 00:06:35,644 Just east of the residence. 107 00:06:37,456 --> 00:06:40,807 You could see that both were stuck backwards in the ditch 108 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:42,192 Like they had spun out. 109 00:06:43,962 --> 00:06:47,130 - We were trying to figure out the two vehicles in the ditch, 110 00:06:47,149 --> 00:06:48,407 What is the relationship? 111 00:06:48,634 --> 00:06:51,225 Was tracy kruger or somebody else from the family 112 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:52,744 Down here on the road at some point? 113 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:56,898 - There was a little blue tow strap 114 00:06:56,917 --> 00:07:00,735 Sticking out from the front of the pickup. 115 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:01,995 There was a single set of footprints 116 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:02,921 Leaving the vehicles. 117 00:07:06,001 --> 00:07:07,984 - The license plates were run on the vehicles, 118 00:07:08,003 --> 00:07:09,911 And that's what told us 119 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:11,245 That one was registered to michael zabawa, 120 00:07:11,339 --> 00:07:13,765 And the other was registered to the kruger family. 121 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:16,326 At that point, 122 00:07:16,344 --> 00:07:19,104 We are gonna wanna talk to michael zabawa. 123 00:07:19,255 --> 00:07:21,898 (dramatic music) 124 00:07:30,859 --> 00:07:34,194 - We get a radio call from one of the waseca police officers 125 00:07:34,346 --> 00:07:38,698 That the neighbor's reporting his vehicle's been stolen. 126 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:40,250 We have no idea what's going on. 127 00:07:41,277 --> 00:07:42,919 The assailant's still out there. 128 00:07:44,113 --> 00:07:45,205 We wanna be very cautious, 129 00:07:45,357 --> 00:07:47,299 We don't want anybody else hurt or killed. 130 00:08:02,057 --> 00:08:04,541 - The stolen vehicle was found maybe 131 00:08:04,634 --> 00:08:07,652 100 yards from zabawa's house. 132 00:08:10,139 --> 00:08:11,639 - There were footprints near the vehicle 133 00:08:11,733 --> 00:08:12,974 That you could follow down the street, 134 00:08:13,068 --> 00:08:15,902 And right up to the zabawa residence in the snow. 135 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:18,312 We don't know who all resides in the residence. 136 00:08:18,332 --> 00:08:19,981 We don't know how many people are in there. 137 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,335 We don't know if they're armed, or what their state of mind is. 138 00:08:26,732 --> 00:08:29,065 - We already knew that there was two people dead, 139 00:08:29,084 --> 00:08:30,491 Possibly three. 140 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:32,844 There was a weapon involved. 141 00:08:32,996 --> 00:08:34,921 We had swat team gathering 142 00:08:35,073 --> 00:08:37,498 In case we needed them for entry. 143 00:08:37,592 --> 00:08:39,592 And then shortly after 7:00 am, 144 00:08:39,745 --> 00:08:43,246 We get the 911 call from michael zabawa 145 00:08:43,265 --> 00:08:46,082 Trying to report that his vehicle is stolen. 146 00:08:46,175 --> 00:08:47,600 - He wanted to speak to law enforcement 147 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,086 To file a stolen vehicle report. 148 00:08:50,105 --> 00:08:52,605 So we just communicated with the dispatcher 149 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:56,017 To relay to him, meet us at the end of the driveway, 150 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,661 And we would take it from there. 151 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:01,331 (dramatic music) 152 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:09,530 When michael zabawa exited the residence, 153 00:09:09,624 --> 00:09:11,550 He came out with his mother, 154 00:09:11,777 --> 00:09:13,718 Walked down the driveway where we were. 155 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:18,348 We approached him and introduced ourselves to him, 156 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:22,209 Said we understood he wanted to report his vehicle stolen. 157 00:09:22,229 --> 00:09:24,062 We explained to him that we have questions 158 00:09:24,213 --> 00:09:25,564 About this matter, 159 00:09:25,791 --> 00:09:27,715 And that we'd like to talk to him at the sheriff's office. 160 00:09:27,809 --> 00:09:30,460 He agreed voluntarily to come with. 161 00:09:30,553 --> 00:09:32,404 - We wanted to get information quickly 162 00:09:32,631 --> 00:09:36,032 Because we don't know if michael zabawa is the guy, 163 00:09:37,485 --> 00:09:38,868 Or if it's somebody else. 164 00:09:40,414 --> 00:09:43,164 (dramatic music) 165 00:09:50,498 --> 00:09:52,549 (clock ticking) 166 00:11:17,326 --> 00:11:19,326 It's not uncommon for suspects to 167 00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:21,571 Sometimes make contact with law enforcement 168 00:11:21,589 --> 00:11:23,256 To try to provide a story 169 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:26,333 Or provide an explanation that's gonna serve them, 170 00:11:26,428 --> 00:11:28,103 And serve their purpose in the case. 171 00:11:29,414 --> 00:11:30,914 So we were certainly suspicious early on 172 00:11:31,007 --> 00:11:33,507 Just not knowing many of the facts. 173 00:11:33,527 --> 00:11:36,194 (dramatic music) 174 00:11:59,127 --> 00:12:01,010 It's a very serious, very heinous crime. 175 00:12:02,205 --> 00:12:04,948 Certainly we're laser focused on 176 00:12:05,041 --> 00:12:06,707 Getting information, figuring this out, 177 00:12:06,727 --> 00:12:07,784 And getting the truth. 178 00:12:07,802 --> 00:12:09,853 (clock ticking) 179 00:12:33,754 --> 00:12:36,087 (dramatic music) 180 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:43,928 - My mom, she was in pretty grave condition. 181 00:12:45,173 --> 00:12:47,098 I remember family members 182 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:50,084 And doctors saying that there was a low chance 183 00:12:50,178 --> 00:12:51,436 Of her making it out of it. 184 00:12:54,165 --> 00:12:57,591 Knowing that my dad and brother didn't make it, 185 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:59,527 I was kind of in a shocked state. 186 00:13:01,022 --> 00:13:03,198 I didn't know what to say, what to do. 187 00:13:04,934 --> 00:13:06,785 I was praying that my mom would make it through. 188 00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,790 (dramatic music) 189 00:13:29,551 --> 00:13:31,200 - We had not processed the crime scene 190 00:13:31,294 --> 00:13:33,202 To any degree at that point. 191 00:13:33,221 --> 00:13:34,871 We hadn't been able to gather much information 192 00:13:34,964 --> 00:13:36,731 From the scene or any witnesses. 193 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:40,226 Our plan to interview him certainly was just 194 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,488 Gather information about his timeline of events. 195 00:14:35,858 --> 00:14:38,359 - Mr. Zabawa on the car ride in, 196 00:14:38,453 --> 00:14:40,620 He indicated that he had been at work the previous day, 197 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:41,880 And then he went home, 198 00:14:42,107 --> 00:14:44,107 And that he was home all evening. 199 00:14:44,125 --> 00:14:45,717 He said he was drinking at home alone. 200 00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:50,388 As the interview progressed, his story slowly changed. 201 00:15:38,513 --> 00:15:41,439 - So when a suspect gives you that kind of confident answer, 202 00:15:41,666 --> 00:15:42,756 No, you're not gonna get me on this, 203 00:15:42,776 --> 00:15:45,109 Or you're not gonna trip me up on this issue, 204 00:15:45,336 --> 00:15:47,261 It does kind of make you set back a little bit, 205 00:15:47,355 --> 00:15:49,781 And try to figure out where am I gonna go with this now? 206 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:55,453 (dramatic music) 207 00:16:36,888 --> 00:16:38,070 If somebody accused me of shooting somebody 208 00:16:38,223 --> 00:16:40,723 And I hadn't, I'd be quite upset. 209 00:16:40,742 --> 00:16:42,074 Angry I think would be the reaction 210 00:16:42,227 --> 00:16:43,668 We would expect from most innocent people. 211 00:17:07,085 --> 00:17:08,359 - It's important that people are allowed 212 00:17:08,511 --> 00:17:10,177 To have that emotional break from the interview, 213 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:12,605 And kind of allow him to reset. 214 00:17:12,757 --> 00:17:15,441 It's an opportunity for us to try to get some information 215 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,777 From other colleagues who are at the scene. 216 00:17:17,871 --> 00:17:20,455 (dramatic music) 217 00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:19,490 (dramatic music) 218 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,500 - We had gotten information, that first break maybe, 219 00:19:29,727 --> 00:19:31,744 About the shoes that they saw at the house 220 00:19:31,896 --> 00:19:34,172 When they secured that matched the footprints in the snow. 221 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:18,365 - When you're throwing these bits of information out 222 00:20:18,459 --> 00:20:22,536 It reminds michael zabawa that we do know a lot of information, 223 00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:25,473 And we're gonna know a lot more as this case plays out. 224 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:11,602 (dramatic music) 225 00:21:13,164 --> 00:21:14,421 - I was getting very frustrated, 226 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,023 Hence the sigh in the interview. 227 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,668 We now have evidence that we're explaining to you, 228 00:21:19,762 --> 00:21:21,279 And you still go back to this story. 229 00:21:22,673 --> 00:21:24,448 He's not biting on the shoe prints. 230 00:21:24,675 --> 00:21:26,284 He's not biting on the fingerprints. 231 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,103 How do we keep moving forward to keep him talking? 232 00:21:30,197 --> 00:21:31,455 And how do we get him to, 233 00:21:31,607 --> 00:21:33,440 And motivate him to tell the truth? 234 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:36,127 (dramatic music) 235 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:48,055 (clock ticking) 236 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:15,982 - It was getting long and frustrating 237 00:22:16,077 --> 00:22:17,910 Listening to his responses. 238 00:22:18,062 --> 00:22:20,079 - When we've been at it for a little while 239 00:22:20,231 --> 00:22:22,673 It's always a good time to maybe take a break and step out. 240 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,774 (dramatic music) 241 00:22:50,761 --> 00:22:52,853 - When hilary first went into the hospital, 242 00:22:52,947 --> 00:22:54,288 She wasn't conscious yet. 243 00:22:55,766 --> 00:22:57,708 She finally stated showing progress, 244 00:22:57,935 --> 00:23:01,120 And it was at that time, it finally felt like 245 00:23:01,272 --> 00:23:02,713 She's gonna make it. 246 00:23:04,217 --> 00:23:06,050 - That was an important piece of information 247 00:23:06,277 --> 00:23:09,461 I wanted to use to confront mr. Zabawa with. 248 00:23:09,614 --> 00:23:11,389 She may be able to tell us what happened. 249 00:23:12,967 --> 00:23:15,059 So it was kind of an additional piece of leverage 250 00:23:16,954 --> 00:23:18,479 To try to get him to tell the truth. 251 00:23:24,462 --> 00:23:26,386 - Here you are, one day you've got 252 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,906 A great friend, a brother, 253 00:23:30,801 --> 00:23:32,893 And the next day you don't have him. 254 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:36,580 And I can't even explain how that changes your life. 255 00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,234 Your brain is constantly trying to figure out, 256 00:23:41,328 --> 00:23:42,736 Why did this happen? 257 00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:47,591 Why, why, why? Just one big circle. 258 00:23:47,818 --> 00:23:49,168 It's the last thing you're gonna think of 259 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:50,986 Is somebody coming in the middle of the night, 260 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:53,005 And just start shooting at you 261 00:23:53,157 --> 00:23:54,581 While you're in a dead sleep. 262 00:23:54,675 --> 00:23:55,933 That just doesn't happen. 263 00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,521 (dramatic music) 264 00:24:13,861 --> 00:24:15,619 (clock ticking) 265 00:25:04,061 --> 00:25:07,229 Those pauses allow that pressure to build. 266 00:25:07,248 --> 00:25:10,174 People generally don't like that awkward silence. 267 00:25:10,325 --> 00:25:12,510 And so you let that silence sit, and you let that build, 268 00:25:12,737 --> 00:25:15,179 And you leave the ball in his court, so to speak. 269 00:25:15,406 --> 00:25:17,264 And say how are you gonna respond to this? 270 00:26:20,988 --> 00:26:23,747 He knows what happened ultimately in that house. 271 00:26:25,233 --> 00:26:26,566 I wanted to make sure and see 272 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:27,976 If there was an accomplice 273 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:31,005 Or other people involved present at the crime scene. 274 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:05,623 (tense music) 275 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,652 (dramatic music) 276 00:27:52,746 --> 00:27:54,229 - I sat back in my chair, 277 00:27:54,248 --> 00:27:56,340 And almost threw my arms up in frustration. 278 00:27:57,843 --> 00:27:59,325 You can't say this 279 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:00,736 And expect people to believe it 280 00:28:00,829 --> 00:28:03,997 Because it doesn't match with the facts that we know. 281 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:06,684 (tense music) 282 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,854 (clock ticking) 283 00:28:37,942 --> 00:28:39,866 We were kind of stuck in a pattern 284 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,627 Of this incremental admissions. 285 00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:44,370 We didn't feel like we had anything to lose 286 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:47,224 At that point by trying another tactic. 287 00:28:47,375 --> 00:28:49,560 Introducing a new face, he may react differently. 288 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:53,397 (dramatic music) 289 00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:43,781 (dramatic music) 290 00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:52,873 (clock ticking) 291 00:30:19,893 --> 00:30:20,984 - He knows who he shot, 292 00:30:22,563 --> 00:30:25,230 But it reminds him and amps up that emotional level 293 00:30:25,382 --> 00:30:26,990 That this is very, very serious. 294 00:30:28,552 --> 00:30:29,993 You did this and a child was killed. 295 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,616 - I think it was a pretty important moment. 296 00:32:32,843 --> 00:32:35,101 It wasn't the whole truth yet from him, 297 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,603 But he's at least admitting that he was in the house, 298 00:32:37,698 --> 00:32:39,206 And was involved in the shooting. 299 00:33:02,815 --> 00:33:05,148 (intense music) 300 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:43,186 - Okay. 301 00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:24,529 - Alec was shot three times. 302 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:27,440 Dropping the gun, it didn't go off three times. 303 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:30,794 And if it did it would be one time, not three times. 304 00:35:30,945 --> 00:35:32,379 It's a pump shot gun, 305 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,799 It doesn't work that way. 306 00:35:36,026 --> 00:35:38,468 - I don't believe that there's a struggle. 307 00:35:38,695 --> 00:35:41,029 We have three people who have been shot, 308 00:35:41,122 --> 00:35:42,973 A couple of them more than one time. 309 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:48,203 So the idea that this was just an unfortunate accident 310 00:35:48,296 --> 00:35:49,646 Just doesn't fly whatsoever. 311 00:35:51,799 --> 00:35:55,134 Both of us felt like we had enough at that point. 312 00:35:55,228 --> 00:35:56,211 We placed him under arrest 313 00:35:56,304 --> 00:35:58,304 Pending criminal charges for murder. 314 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,991 (dramatic music) 315 00:36:11,319 --> 00:36:13,003 - I don't think he ever wanted to admit 316 00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:14,896 That he intentionally shot and killed anybody, 317 00:36:14,915 --> 00:36:16,006 He wasn't gonna go there. 318 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:20,343 But there's evidence left all over that crime scene. 319 00:36:21,571 --> 00:36:23,346 There's evidence on him, 320 00:36:23,498 --> 00:36:24,514 And we're gonna find it. 321 00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:32,856 (gentle music) 322 00:36:43,518 --> 00:36:45,610 - We had now spent the previous day 323 00:36:45,762 --> 00:36:48,613 And into the night processing the scene, 324 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:49,706 Gathering information. 325 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,359 We determined that there had been eight rounds fired, 326 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,787 Which even further dismisses this idea 327 00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:58,215 That this was just an unfortunate accident. 328 00:36:59,776 --> 00:37:02,034 And we learned from the autopsy of tracy kruger 329 00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:05,280 That a piece of actual spring from the bed mattress 330 00:37:05,298 --> 00:37:07,707 And some fibers from the bed mattress were found 331 00:37:07,801 --> 00:37:09,968 In his wound in his chest, 332 00:37:10,062 --> 00:37:12,395 Which told us that he was using that mattress 333 00:37:12,547 --> 00:37:13,638 As a type of shield, 334 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:16,474 Or a way to protect himself from mr. Zabawa 335 00:37:16,626 --> 00:37:17,734 Who's shooting at him. 336 00:37:18,979 --> 00:37:20,144 - It just confirmed 337 00:37:20,297 --> 00:37:21,905 That there was really no struggle at all there. 338 00:37:22,056 --> 00:37:24,824 He was trying to hide from michael zabawa at the time. 339 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,248 (gentle music) 340 00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:53,496 (gentle music) 341 00:38:57,227 --> 00:38:59,085 - I wasn't out of the woods for quite a while. 342 00:39:01,155 --> 00:39:04,507 It took two hospitals, 343 00:39:04,734 --> 00:39:07,902 Two rehabilitation and nine months 344 00:39:07,921 --> 00:39:09,763 Before I was able to come home again. 345 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:23,101 - To find a gun, to load a gun, 346 00:39:23,253 --> 00:39:24,586 To walk up the stairs, 347 00:39:24,604 --> 00:39:28,198 To start shooting people, are all intentional acts. 348 00:39:29,776 --> 00:39:32,369 At any of those moments he could have changed his mind. 349 00:39:34,355 --> 00:39:36,956 - There was never any type of struggle. 350 00:39:39,269 --> 00:39:41,694 But that was the story that came out first, 351 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:45,790 Before anyone was even able to talk with me 352 00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:46,966 And get the facts. 353 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,470 That upsets me. 354 00:39:52,282 --> 00:39:56,393 I know how senseless these murders were. 355 00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:03,066 (dramatic music) 356 00:40:17,249 --> 00:40:20,083 - I think the jury could see that he was lying 357 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:21,918 And untruthful from the beginning. 358 00:40:23,496 --> 00:40:25,237 That was very important to show the jury 359 00:40:25,257 --> 00:40:27,331 That he wasn't telling the whole truth, 360 00:40:27,426 --> 00:40:29,592 And the evidence supported what actually happened. 361 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:34,097 (dramatic music) 362 00:40:39,754 --> 00:40:41,187 - It was emotional. 363 00:40:42,832 --> 00:40:44,441 I testified 364 00:40:46,686 --> 00:40:49,696 With zabawa only a few feet away, 365 00:40:51,933 --> 00:40:54,033 But I was just there to do my job, 366 00:40:56,938 --> 00:41:00,623 And make sure that he didn't 367 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,544 Get off on this. 368 00:41:11,695 --> 00:41:14,028 - He was found guilty on two counts 369 00:41:14,047 --> 00:41:15,805 Of first-degree premeditated murder, 370 00:41:16,032 --> 00:41:18,725 Which were two consecutive life sentences. 371 00:41:20,704 --> 00:41:25,398 He got 216 months for hilary's attempted murder. 372 00:41:26,893 --> 00:41:28,818 But he never showed any remorse for any of this. 373 00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:31,488 Never indicated he felt bad about what he did, 374 00:41:31,715 --> 00:41:34,232 Or provided a logical explanation 375 00:41:34,384 --> 00:41:34,991 Or anything for it. 376 00:41:36,644 --> 00:41:37,994 And I don't think we'll ever know. 377 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:41,498 (somber music) 378 00:41:47,488 --> 00:41:50,155 - It's on my mind every day, 379 00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:54,177 But it doesn't control me or define me. 380 00:41:56,756 --> 00:41:58,431 It's become part of me. 381 00:42:01,745 --> 00:42:04,670 - I don't think we ever try to move past it. 382 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,523 There's always the thought there when we're together. 383 00:42:08,084 --> 00:42:10,777 We just gotta just keep living the best we can. 384 00:42:15,592 --> 00:42:21,596 - Tracy and alec were such good, kind people 385 00:42:21,614 --> 00:42:26,784 That their memory deserves us to live our life 386 00:42:26,878 --> 00:42:28,127 The best we can. 387 00:42:31,608 --> 00:42:33,466 I miss everything about them. 388 00:42:34,778 --> 00:42:38,279 I miss their silliness 389 00:42:38,372 --> 00:42:40,640 And just being fun and being a family, 390 00:42:42,043 --> 00:42:43,726 And just having dinners together. 391 00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:50,233 I miss their hugs. 392 00:42:52,237 --> 00:42:56,406 But I'm happy and thankful and grateful 393 00:42:56,633 --> 00:43:00,968 That we did have that time with them. 394 00:43:01,062 --> 00:43:02,996 That will always stay in my heart.