1 00:00:00,292 --> 00:00:01,572 (Metallic sound) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:04,670 --> 00:00:05,790 (Lion roaring) 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:20,483 --> 00:00:21,858 - [Announcer] All right, ladies and gentlemen. 6 00:00:21,858 --> 00:00:22,691 On the count of three, 7 00:00:22,691 --> 00:00:24,775 I want you to tell me who you think's gonna win this race. 8 00:00:24,775 --> 00:00:26,858 Ready? One, two, three! 9 00:00:26,858 --> 00:00:30,025 (crowd yells faintly) 10 00:00:35,108 --> 00:00:36,650 I think they all have a good chance, 11 00:00:36,650 --> 00:00:38,691 but we're gonna find out in 25 lap. 12 00:00:41,316 --> 00:00:42,775 Canandaigua, are you ready? 13 00:00:43,941 --> 00:00:46,150 Wipe the visor, adjust the five-point harness. 14 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:48,150 Grandpa, take a Viagra pill! 15 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:50,691 It's time to get it on! 16 00:00:50,691 --> 00:00:51,691 Race fans, 17 00:00:51,691 --> 00:00:54,191 it's showtime! 18 00:00:54,191 --> 00:00:57,525 (trumpet fanfare plays) 19 00:00:59,066 --> 00:01:02,233 (race cars whooshing) 20 00:01:14,525 --> 00:01:15,983 And Stewart's got a head of steam. 21 00:01:15,983 --> 00:01:18,775 He's gonna go to work on the Jeff Cook, number 10. 22 00:01:18,775 --> 00:01:20,775 As Stewart has Kevin Ward Jr. 23 00:01:20,775 --> 00:01:22,358 right there in front of him now. 24 00:01:23,532 --> 00:01:26,532 (quiet piano music) 25 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:50,358 Oh! And we've got Ward into the wall! 26 00:01:50,358 --> 00:01:51,608 Ward into the wall! 27 00:01:51,608 --> 00:01:54,191 He bounces it over the cushion. 28 00:01:56,566 --> 00:01:59,566 (quiet piano music) 29 00:02:08,233 --> 00:02:10,525 And Kevin Ward's coming out of his car. 30 00:02:10,525 --> 00:02:12,233 He is looking for somebody. 31 00:02:15,775 --> 00:02:17,775 He is looking for... 32 00:02:25,323 --> 00:02:27,650 I believe it was Tony Stewart. 33 00:02:29,275 --> 00:02:31,983 - [Speaker] Red, red, red, red, red, red! 34 00:02:31,983 --> 00:02:33,316 - [Spectator] Oh, he hit him! 35 00:02:33,316 --> 00:02:35,650 Tony Stewart just hit that guy, Alex! 36 00:02:35,650 --> 00:02:38,191 Tony Stewart just hit that guy! 37 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:40,858 (crowd screams) 38 00:02:44,788 --> 00:02:48,038 (calming guitar music) 39 00:03:00,066 --> 00:03:02,566 (jack clinks) 40 00:03:10,441 --> 00:03:13,191 (motor whirring) 41 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:39,816 (gravel scrapes) 42 00:03:41,858 --> 00:03:45,108 (twangy country music) 43 00:03:57,650 --> 00:04:00,150 (engine revs) 44 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,940 (race car rumbles) 45 00:04:27,316 --> 00:04:29,400 - [Announcer] ...an issue for Martin Truex Jr. 46 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,400 He immediately said something is wrong. 47 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,608 And now Cole Pearn said, "We have the tires switched." 48 00:04:36,608 --> 00:04:38,900 They messed it up on pit road. 49 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:40,816 It's the right front and left front 50 00:04:40,816 --> 00:04:42,191 that are switched on the 19- 51 00:04:42,191 --> 00:04:44,025 - [Narrator] In tiny Port Leyden, New York, 52 00:04:44,025 --> 00:04:46,983 the number 13 and Ward Racing 53 00:04:46,983 --> 00:04:50,150 are as familiar at local sprint car tracks 54 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:53,566 as any of the names of the stock car champions 55 00:04:53,566 --> 00:04:55,691 running on Sunday TV. 56 00:04:55,691 --> 00:04:58,191 (garage door squeaks) 57 00:04:58,191 --> 00:05:01,525 Half the town could grab a Kevin Ward Jr. race trophy 58 00:05:01,525 --> 00:05:03,150 off the garage wall, 59 00:05:03,150 --> 00:05:05,900 and there'd still be plenty left behind. 60 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:07,191 - [Kevin Sr.] I counted them yesterday. 61 00:05:07,191 --> 00:05:09,358 There's 396 in here. 62 00:05:09,358 --> 00:05:10,941 - [Chris Halsne] 396 trophies? 63 00:05:10,941 --> 00:05:11,900 - Yep. 64 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:14,066 This is the first year that he raced. 65 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:16,108 He won 17 out of 19 races. 66 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:20,316 And then the second year, he won 16 out of 19. 67 00:05:20,316 --> 00:05:23,275 And that's all the trophies up there on the top. 68 00:05:23,275 --> 00:05:25,191 - It was not even an option for him. 69 00:05:25,191 --> 00:05:27,316 It's like, "Well, I'm sticking with racing." 70 00:05:27,316 --> 00:05:29,733 So he like, basically that's what he did. 71 00:05:29,733 --> 00:05:30,650 That's where his love was. 72 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:32,816 That's where his passion was, racing, 73 00:05:32,816 --> 00:05:34,525 and that's where he did. 74 00:05:34,525 --> 00:05:36,775 Every weekend, they were gone racing. 75 00:05:36,775 --> 00:05:40,108 (child yelling happily) 76 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,150 (motor rumbling) 77 00:05:46,358 --> 00:05:50,525 (announcer speaking indistinctly) 78 00:05:52,316 --> 00:05:55,858 - I guess from as young as, it may sound weird, 79 00:05:55,858 --> 00:05:57,900 but as the young as seven months old, 80 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:01,150 I knew he, you know, he liked, motors didn't scare him. 81 00:06:01,150 --> 00:06:03,858 You know, some kids, you start a motor around them 82 00:06:03,858 --> 00:06:04,858 and they're gonna run the other way. 83 00:06:04,858 --> 00:06:07,025 Where, you know, he hears a motor, 84 00:06:07,025 --> 00:06:08,150 he'd run to the motor. 85 00:06:12,691 --> 00:06:16,108 (child chatters happily) 86 00:06:18,775 --> 00:06:19,941 Four years old. 87 00:06:19,941 --> 00:06:21,816 We had the dirt track out back, 88 00:06:21,816 --> 00:06:26,108 and I showed him how to drive, or run the go-kart, 89 00:06:26,983 --> 00:06:30,025 and it was a very easy starting go-kart. 90 00:06:30,025 --> 00:06:32,358 I showed him, you know, how to put gas in and stuff, 91 00:06:32,358 --> 00:06:34,441 and he used to go out at eight o'clock in the morning 92 00:06:34,441 --> 00:06:37,316 and ride the go-kart till eight o'clock at night. 93 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:42,650 (go-kart rattles) 94 00:06:45,275 --> 00:06:47,900 I don't think I ever seen him once ride it across the lawn. 95 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:49,983 It was always around the track out back. 96 00:06:49,983 --> 00:06:54,150 And he would go, sheesh, I couldn't imagine how many laps 97 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:56,691 in the 12-hour period around out back. 98 00:06:57,941 --> 00:07:00,233 - I started racing go-karts when I was eight, 99 00:07:00,233 --> 00:07:02,691 and I met Kevin 100 00:07:02,691 --> 00:07:03,983 when I was nine. 101 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,358 We grew up on a farm. 102 00:07:08,358 --> 00:07:11,441 We didn't really have a lot of money to spend on racing. 103 00:07:12,441 --> 00:07:14,691 And Kevin kinda, out of the blue, 104 00:07:15,566 --> 00:07:18,566 just kind of, whether he noticed me or whatever, 105 00:07:18,566 --> 00:07:19,858 he just started helping out, 106 00:07:19,858 --> 00:07:23,316 like just, you know, not long after I met the guy. 107 00:07:23,316 --> 00:07:26,441 And we blew an engine up at the racetrack one night 108 00:07:26,441 --> 00:07:29,358 and he called my Dad and he said, 109 00:07:29,358 --> 00:07:30,816 "I got a gallon of oil for you. 110 00:07:30,816 --> 00:07:32,108 It's gonna cost you $100 bucks, 111 00:07:32,108 --> 00:07:33,983 but you're gonna get a brand new motor with it." 112 00:07:33,983 --> 00:07:36,441 And I said, "Kevin, you don't have to do that." 113 00:07:36,441 --> 00:07:38,483 He said, "I know I don't have to do that, 114 00:07:38,483 --> 00:07:40,316 but I'm gonna do that because I wanna do that 115 00:07:40,316 --> 00:07:41,358 and I can do that." 116 00:07:41,358 --> 00:07:44,483 - My brother and I always had a really close relationship. 117 00:07:45,816 --> 00:07:47,150 You know, like we didn't argue much. 118 00:07:47,150 --> 00:07:48,150 We were six years apart. 119 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:50,483 So by the time I was older, it was more of a friendship 120 00:07:50,483 --> 00:07:52,983 than it ever really was like a sibling rivalry, 121 00:07:52,983 --> 00:07:54,858 or anything like that. 122 00:07:54,858 --> 00:07:56,983 I used to race, so we had that in common. 123 00:07:56,983 --> 00:07:59,525 I absolutely loved going to watch him race. 124 00:07:59,525 --> 00:08:01,941 One of his go-karts, his play go-kart. 125 00:08:01,941 --> 00:08:04,400 And this is the driver, Kevin Ward. 126 00:08:05,316 --> 00:08:06,650 Number 13. 127 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:07,566 - [Child] Number 13. 128 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:08,650 - It's right here, it's 13! 129 00:08:08,650 --> 00:08:11,275 This right here is Kevin Ward's racing go-kart. 130 00:08:12,566 --> 00:08:14,816 When I found out I was having a boy, 131 00:08:14,816 --> 00:08:17,400 then, you know, everything was great. 132 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,858 He was gonna have a nephew, 133 00:08:18,858 --> 00:08:20,650 they were gonna start a Ward Racing Team. 134 00:08:20,650 --> 00:08:24,733 At the time, we actually, when my son about turned one, 135 00:08:24,733 --> 00:08:26,691 we moved down next to my Dad's shop. 136 00:08:26,691 --> 00:08:29,358 So every day, when Kevin would go to work on the race car, 137 00:08:29,358 --> 00:08:32,482 he'd actually come over and grab Landon and take him over 138 00:08:32,482 --> 00:08:35,066 so they could do stuff together all the time. 139 00:08:35,066 --> 00:08:37,275 And that's what I really loved most about him 140 00:08:37,275 --> 00:08:38,941 is how much he did care for his nephew. 141 00:08:38,941 --> 00:08:40,566 You know, he wanted him to be a part 142 00:08:40,566 --> 00:08:41,982 of the whole racing thing. 143 00:08:41,982 --> 00:08:43,191 (door closes) 144 00:08:43,191 --> 00:08:45,941 - Grandpa, guess who just won on the race? 145 00:08:45,941 --> 00:08:46,858 - [Kevin Sr.] Who? 146 00:08:46,858 --> 00:08:47,691 - Kyle Busch. 147 00:08:47,691 --> 00:08:48,650 - [Kevin Sr.] Did he really? 148 00:08:48,650 --> 00:08:50,066 - Yes. - [Kevin Sr.] Oh, boy. 149 00:08:50,066 --> 00:08:51,400 He was 14 years old, 150 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,816 and he was supposed to be 16 to be in this class. 151 00:08:53,816 --> 00:08:57,858 But like I said, I helped, I laid the track down there. 152 00:08:57,858 --> 00:09:00,608 So they let him run the opens there. 153 00:09:00,608 --> 00:09:02,275 - [Chris] And then he ends up beating you. 154 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:03,108 - Yeah. 155 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:07,650 (engine revs) 156 00:09:14,566 --> 00:09:17,816 - [Narrator] By the time Kevin Ward Jr. was 17 years old, 157 00:09:17,816 --> 00:09:22,816 he'd racked up 250 wins and six championships in go-karts, 158 00:09:23,316 --> 00:09:26,233 was a two-time micro sprint champion, 159 00:09:26,233 --> 00:09:30,025 and had been named the 360 Sprint Car Rookie of the Year. 160 00:09:34,566 --> 00:09:38,275 He still owns the track record at the Adirondack Speedway 161 00:09:38,275 --> 00:09:40,066 for the fastest lap ever, 162 00:09:40,066 --> 00:09:44,608 13.5 seconds at 135 miles per hour. 163 00:09:50,691 --> 00:09:52,941 - I was always nervous, at every race. 164 00:09:52,941 --> 00:09:56,358 You know, I sat there just like hoping that, you know, 165 00:09:56,358 --> 00:09:58,983 nothing was gonna happen, that he was gonna be okay. 166 00:09:58,983 --> 00:10:01,900 And ultimately, when it came right down to it, 167 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:03,025 it was his passion for life. 168 00:10:03,025 --> 00:10:04,816 It's what he loved doing. 169 00:10:04,816 --> 00:10:07,358 I wasn't gonna be the one to take that away from him. 170 00:10:08,483 --> 00:10:10,983 (engine revs) 171 00:10:15,358 --> 00:10:17,400 - We live in a small community here. 172 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,025 They know that Kevin lived for racin'. 173 00:10:21,025 --> 00:10:22,316 I'm sure there's a handful of people 174 00:10:22,316 --> 00:10:27,150 that don't agree that Kevin was a great kid, but he was. 175 00:10:28,108 --> 00:10:30,025 He was a hard worker, 176 00:10:30,025 --> 00:10:31,233 had a heart of gold. 177 00:10:31,233 --> 00:10:32,441 Kevin had a lot of things 178 00:10:32,441 --> 00:10:35,733 that a lot of the other kids around here didn't have, 179 00:10:35,733 --> 00:10:37,983 you know, but you'd never know it. 180 00:10:37,983 --> 00:10:40,900 You know, it just, that's what type of kid he was. 181 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:44,066 - From 10 years old to this day, 182 00:10:44,066 --> 00:10:48,025 I've always looked up to the whole family, you know. 183 00:10:48,025 --> 00:10:50,566 Kevin is such a good man. 184 00:10:50,566 --> 00:10:52,150 His wife is phenomenal. 185 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:54,858 They've helped a lot of people in the community. 186 00:10:54,858 --> 00:10:57,983 They've helped a lot of people in the racing community. 187 00:11:00,441 --> 00:11:03,608 (contemplative music) 188 00:11:14,108 --> 00:11:18,108 (contemplative music continues) 189 00:11:28,275 --> 00:11:29,650 - [Documentarian] Is this his room? 190 00:11:29,650 --> 00:11:31,233 - [Kevin Sr.] Yes. 191 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:32,066 Yep. 192 00:11:35,025 --> 00:11:39,441 Pretty much the way it was when he left that morning. 193 00:11:39,441 --> 00:11:40,733 Clothes on the back, 194 00:11:42,566 --> 00:11:43,983 the pile over there. 195 00:11:48,025 --> 00:11:50,566 Yeah, his bed's all made up. 196 00:11:50,566 --> 00:11:52,650 And his mother didn't make it, he made it. 197 00:11:53,816 --> 00:11:55,233 That was house rules and 198 00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:57,650 that's what he done. 199 00:12:00,441 --> 00:12:02,108 - [Documentarian] How hard is it to be in here? 200 00:12:02,108 --> 00:12:02,983 - Really hard. 201 00:12:02,983 --> 00:12:03,941 - [Documentarian] Yeah. 202 00:12:06,275 --> 00:12:08,025 - Yeah, we don't come in here much. 203 00:12:17,775 --> 00:12:19,150 (energetic music) 204 00:12:19,150 --> 00:12:20,691 - [Announcer] Here we go. Final time. 205 00:12:20,691 --> 00:12:22,525 - [Announcer] Big crash behind the race leader, 206 00:12:22,525 --> 00:12:23,358 Tony Stewart! 207 00:12:23,358 --> 00:12:25,483 That's gonna allow Smoke to pull away. 208 00:12:25,483 --> 00:12:26,941 What's gonna happen behind him? 209 00:12:26,941 --> 00:12:28,233 Can Burton get there? 210 00:12:28,233 --> 00:12:29,316 No, he can't! 211 00:12:29,316 --> 00:12:31,983 Tony Stewart wins it at Daytona! 212 00:12:35,025 --> 00:12:37,608 (crowd cheers) 213 00:12:39,983 --> 00:12:42,983 - [Announcer] Tony Stewart wins at Martinsville! 214 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:48,483 (upbeat music) 215 00:12:51,358 --> 00:12:53,066 - [Announcer] Tony Stewart wins! 216 00:12:56,525 --> 00:13:01,400 - Tony's a guy with old-fashioned, seat-of-the-pants feel. 217 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,150 And I think that's what separated him 218 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:08,108 from drivers who didn't come up the way he did. 219 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,233 He's a great natural talent to begin with, 220 00:13:13,233 --> 00:13:15,691 and he's a throwback to an earlier generation. 221 00:13:15,691 --> 00:13:18,650 Dan Gurney, A.J. Foyt, Mario Andretti, 222 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:21,858 all who took pride in being able to win 223 00:13:21,858 --> 00:13:23,858 in anything with four wheels. 224 00:13:23,858 --> 00:13:26,275 - [Announcer] Yeah, that 14 is just too strong 225 00:13:26,275 --> 00:13:27,525 up off the bottom of the corner. 226 00:13:27,525 --> 00:13:30,650 Jimmie tried everything he could, but 14 is just stout. 227 00:13:34,483 --> 00:13:35,316 - I'm Monte Dutton, 228 00:13:35,316 --> 00:13:38,066 and I wrote as a beat reporter and columnist 229 00:13:38,066 --> 00:13:40,566 about racing for 20 years. 230 00:13:40,566 --> 00:13:44,566 During Tony's rookie season, we sort of hit it off. 231 00:13:44,566 --> 00:13:47,400 And so I decided to write a book about him. 232 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,025 "Rebel with a Cause: A Season with Tony Stewart". 233 00:13:51,025 --> 00:13:52,775 He was personally challenged 234 00:13:52,775 --> 00:13:54,400 and it was, 235 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,983 it was what made him happy 236 00:13:56,983 --> 00:13:59,733 in an otherwise turbulent life. 237 00:13:59,733 --> 00:14:02,525 He did it for fun, you know. 238 00:14:02,525 --> 00:14:05,066 The same way that some people paint, 239 00:14:05,066 --> 00:14:06,650 some people play guitar. 240 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:08,275 None of them are gonna win Grammys 241 00:14:08,275 --> 00:14:11,275 or have their work hung in the Louvre, 242 00:14:11,275 --> 00:14:13,400 but that's what makes them happy. 243 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,566 - And you won it, and the championship. 244 00:14:15,566 --> 00:14:17,150 What's the emotion right now? 245 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:19,275 - Oh God, thank the Lord for this one. 246 00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:21,983 - [Narrator] A three-time NASCAR Cup Series champion, 247 00:14:21,983 --> 00:14:24,108 Anthony Tony "Smoke" Stewart 248 00:14:24,108 --> 00:14:27,233 is one of the most successful drivers in history. 249 00:14:27,233 --> 00:14:31,650 He's made around $130 million in prize money. 250 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:38,025 - [Announcer] Down the back straightaway. 251 00:14:38,025 --> 00:14:39,858 Tony Stewart trying to hang on 252 00:14:39,858 --> 00:14:41,566 and get his very first win ever 253 00:14:41,566 --> 00:14:43,400 at the Track Too Tough to Tame. 254 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,733 - [Narrator] He won NASCAR's Xfinity opening race series 255 00:14:46,733 --> 00:14:50,691 at the Daytona International Speedway seven times. 256 00:14:50,691 --> 00:14:52,608 He's been inducted into nearly 257 00:14:52,608 --> 00:14:55,066 every race car hall of fame imaginable. 258 00:14:55,066 --> 00:14:57,025 - [Announcer] Stewart takes the win at Talladega! 259 00:14:57,025 --> 00:14:58,358 Coming down the front straightaway, 260 00:14:58,358 --> 00:14:59,941 it's gonna be all Tony Stewart! 261 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,275 - [Announcer] They're going down at 11. 262 00:15:02,275 --> 00:15:03,566 Stewart just leans on him, 263 00:15:03,566 --> 00:15:05,691 and keeps leaning and keep leaning. 264 00:15:05,691 --> 00:15:07,525 - [Narrator] His acumen for driving 265 00:15:07,525 --> 00:15:09,441 has occasionally been overshadowed 266 00:15:09,441 --> 00:15:12,025 by his reputation as a hothead. 267 00:15:12,025 --> 00:15:14,025 - (bleep) (bleep) 268 00:15:14,025 --> 00:15:14,858 I don't know what he did to you, 269 00:15:14,858 --> 00:15:16,608 but I know you were mad at him. 270 00:15:16,608 --> 00:15:19,566 (bleep) somebody else, you two right there. 271 00:15:19,566 --> 00:15:20,400 - Hey, shut up! 272 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,233 - Hey! Hey! 273 00:15:21,233 --> 00:15:23,441 (man screams) 274 00:15:23,441 --> 00:15:26,566 (crowd yelling) 275 00:15:26,566 --> 00:15:28,566 - [Narrator] He's publicly punched fans 276 00:15:28,566 --> 00:15:30,275 and competitors alike. 277 00:15:30,275 --> 00:15:32,150 - [Newscaster] The man confronting the fan in the stands 278 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:34,483 is NASCAR superstar Tony Stewart. 279 00:15:34,483 --> 00:15:36,108 Stewart, who's been assisting the crew 280 00:15:36,108 --> 00:15:38,025 maintain the track all week long, 281 00:15:38,025 --> 00:15:39,775 was being heckled by this man, 282 00:15:39,775 --> 00:15:42,566 Tulsa County Sheriff's Corporal Kyle Hess. 283 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:44,691 Stewart went to share words with Hess 284 00:15:44,691 --> 00:15:45,941 and the following ensued. 285 00:15:46,775 --> 00:15:49,733 (crowd yelling) 286 00:15:49,733 --> 00:15:51,691 - I always thought with Tony that, 287 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:54,900 you couldn't prove it with a camera, 288 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,566 but when Tony was in a bad mood, 289 00:15:57,566 --> 00:15:59,358 his eyes looked black as coal to me. 290 00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:02,400 It was like a pall descended over him. 291 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,900 (crowd roars) 292 00:16:09,025 --> 00:16:11,775 He is not one to cool down 293 00:16:11,775 --> 00:16:14,191 and call tomorrow and warm it all over. 294 00:16:14,191 --> 00:16:17,150 Tony is a guy who, if he doesn't like 295 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:21,150 how you shoved him around on the racetrack, 296 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:22,233 when he gets outta the car, 297 00:16:22,233 --> 00:16:24,566 he's gonna get this straight right now. 298 00:16:24,566 --> 00:16:27,566 He's just, what's that terrible cliché 299 00:16:27,566 --> 00:16:30,775 that I'm gonna regret ever saying, 300 00:16:30,775 --> 00:16:33,316 "That's just Tony being Tony"? 301 00:16:33,316 --> 00:16:37,066 - [Announcer] And boy, Tony Stewart is after Logano. 302 00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:39,691 - "That's just Shaq being Shaq." 303 00:16:39,691 --> 00:16:42,150 "That's just so and so." 304 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:46,150 And so it becomes a rationalization for misbehaving. 305 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:49,941 But, you know, sports is full of clichés. 306 00:16:51,108 --> 00:16:52,691 - [Announcer] This is them coming off of pit road 307 00:16:52,691 --> 00:16:54,983 after they had been warned to settle down. 308 00:16:54,983 --> 00:16:56,275 - [Commentator] When you leave pit road, 309 00:16:56,275 --> 00:16:58,275 you can't go above the yellow line. 310 00:16:58,275 --> 00:16:59,441 - [Interviewer] Well, we're here with Tony. 311 00:16:59,441 --> 00:17:01,525 All right, Tony, your perspective, what happened? 312 00:17:01,525 --> 00:17:03,108 - Ah, the kid's an idiot. 313 00:17:03,108 --> 00:17:04,441 - [Narrator] Stewart might be most famous 314 00:17:04,441 --> 00:17:08,650 for his NASCAR success, played out on asphalt ovals. 315 00:17:08,650 --> 00:17:12,150 But he has always kept one foot on the dirt track, 316 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:14,025 racing sprint cars. 317 00:17:14,025 --> 00:17:16,525 (engines rev) 318 00:17:17,525 --> 00:17:21,025 He owns a team that has won at least 23 short track titles 319 00:17:21,025 --> 00:17:22,316 in the World of Outlaws. 320 00:17:25,733 --> 00:17:27,650 These sprint cars use big engines 321 00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:31,483 to press speeds past 150 miles per hour, 322 00:17:31,483 --> 00:17:34,108 while sliding inches from the next car 323 00:17:34,108 --> 00:17:35,733 on nearly every turn. 324 00:17:36,691 --> 00:17:40,733 Making it onto this circuit was Kevin Ward Jr.'s dream. 325 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,858 - [Announcer] Kasey Kahne giving a nice push 326 00:17:48,858 --> 00:17:50,566 to Tony Stewart in that outside lane. 327 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:52,816 - You know, NASCAR's nothing like we do. 328 00:17:52,816 --> 00:17:54,650 NASCAR is obviously the top tier, 329 00:17:54,650 --> 00:17:55,983 and that's where the money's at. 330 00:17:55,983 --> 00:17:57,566 (crowd cheers) 331 00:17:57,566 --> 00:17:59,566 - [Announcer] And the fans are yelling, "Tony!" 332 00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:02,816 - It's definitely a different style of racing. 333 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:04,816 You know, the NASCAR, 334 00:18:04,816 --> 00:18:07,525 you know, 500 miles, 300 laps. 335 00:18:07,525 --> 00:18:08,441 You know, where we're not. 336 00:18:08,441 --> 00:18:10,400 We're 25 laps. It's a sprint race. 337 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,608 It's, you know. 338 00:18:12,858 --> 00:18:15,233 It could be done in seven minutes. 339 00:18:15,233 --> 00:18:17,733 (engines rev) 340 00:18:19,066 --> 00:18:20,483 You really gotta be on top of your game, 341 00:18:20,483 --> 00:18:23,150 and you're racing, hard, 342 00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:24,733 for those 25 laps. 343 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,816 We're not racing a hundred-lapper, 344 00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:30,316 where you can kind of take your time. 345 00:18:30,316 --> 00:18:33,983 You know, you need to hammer down and go as fast as you can. 346 00:18:33,983 --> 00:18:35,775 So if you fall asleep during this, 347 00:18:35,775 --> 00:18:37,275 then there's something wrong with you. 348 00:18:38,316 --> 00:18:41,566 (upbeat country music) 349 00:18:43,066 --> 00:18:45,733 (fireworks pop) 350 00:18:49,566 --> 00:18:52,233 (motors rattle) 351 00:18:59,816 --> 00:19:02,275 - Sprint cars, they're extremely fast. 352 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:04,525 The horsepower-to-weight ratio is insane. 353 00:19:04,525 --> 00:19:06,983 And it's probably why guys like Tony Stewart 354 00:19:06,983 --> 00:19:08,191 like the sport so much, 355 00:19:08,191 --> 00:19:11,025 is because they kind of afford you an adrenaline rush 356 00:19:11,025 --> 00:19:11,858 like no other. 357 00:19:12,775 --> 00:19:14,691 - It takes some seat time to get used to it, 358 00:19:14,691 --> 00:19:17,775 to get comfortable enough to feel like you have control 359 00:19:17,775 --> 00:19:19,608 so you can go into that corner, you know, 360 00:19:19,608 --> 00:19:21,608 130, 140 miles an hour, 361 00:19:21,608 --> 00:19:23,608 six inches off the next guy next to you. 362 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,608 Racing with the same group of guys, 363 00:19:27,608 --> 00:19:30,108 you know who you can come into a corner that close to, 364 00:19:30,108 --> 00:19:32,066 and you know who to stay away from, so. 365 00:19:33,358 --> 00:19:37,733 That's another fun part about it, I guess. 366 00:19:40,608 --> 00:19:42,775 - [Narrator] The anatomy of most wing sprint cars 367 00:19:42,775 --> 00:19:43,775 is the same. 368 00:19:43,775 --> 00:19:47,733 They are stripped down to weigh between 1200 and 1400 pounds 369 00:19:47,733 --> 00:19:49,608 and have massive engine power, 370 00:19:49,608 --> 00:19:54,400 between 500 and 900 horsepower, depending on the class. 371 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,691 A 25 square-foot aluminum wing 372 00:19:56,691 --> 00:19:59,316 is mounted above the roll cage. 373 00:19:59,316 --> 00:20:02,983 It creates downforce, sticking the car to the track. 374 00:20:02,983 --> 00:20:06,108 They have no battery, starter, transmission, or clutch. 375 00:20:06,108 --> 00:20:10,400 The right rear tire is notably wider than the rest, 376 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,650 and intentionally low on air pressure, 377 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:15,983 to get better traction on the banked track corners. 378 00:20:17,233 --> 00:20:19,983 (engine rumbles) 379 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,275 - It would be, probably, 380 00:20:27,525 --> 00:20:30,608 one of the quickest accelerating vehicles in racing 381 00:20:30,608 --> 00:20:32,733 that you could possibly ride in, 382 00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:35,108 in terms of going around corners. 383 00:20:37,483 --> 00:20:39,525 So they have a huge amount of horsepower 384 00:20:39,525 --> 00:20:41,108 and very, very little weight. 385 00:20:41,108 --> 00:20:44,358 - This sport, it's the highs are so high. 386 00:20:44,358 --> 00:20:47,275 I don't know if you could take drugs to make you that happy. 387 00:20:47,275 --> 00:20:50,566 It's just something that propels you so high, 388 00:20:50,566 --> 00:20:52,941 it puts you on a pedestal, you know. 389 00:20:52,941 --> 00:20:55,733 People kinda like look up to you a little bit. 390 00:20:55,733 --> 00:20:58,316 But then the lows are so low, 391 00:20:58,316 --> 00:21:01,816 that it just, it's a rollercoaster. 392 00:21:01,816 --> 00:21:04,650 (engines revving) 393 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,400 I understand why my father 394 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,983 didn't want me to get in the sport, 395 00:21:09,983 --> 00:21:12,441 because one week you're on top of the world, 396 00:21:12,441 --> 00:21:14,983 next week, you're literally at the bottom, you know. 397 00:21:14,983 --> 00:21:16,691 And then you gotta drag yourself out 398 00:21:16,691 --> 00:21:20,066 and work on the car harder, come back, and be better. 399 00:21:24,233 --> 00:21:25,941 - I think you see guys come back. 400 00:21:25,941 --> 00:21:28,108 I mean, that's their grassroots, 401 00:21:28,108 --> 00:21:30,400 that's what got 'em into the big leagues 402 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,691 making the big money. 403 00:21:31,691 --> 00:21:33,983 And I believe at the end of the day, 404 00:21:33,983 --> 00:21:34,858 I would say 405 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:37,941 the majority of them guys 406 00:21:37,941 --> 00:21:40,858 would love nothing more to race the dirt. 407 00:21:44,816 --> 00:21:46,608 You know, NASCAR is near and dear to 'em 408 00:21:46,608 --> 00:21:48,983 because of the fortune, the fame, the money, 409 00:21:48,983 --> 00:21:52,275 the lifestyle that they, you know, are capable of living. 410 00:21:53,816 --> 00:21:55,066 But I think at the end of the day, 411 00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:57,608 if they could make as much money racing on the dirt 412 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:00,025 as they could on the blacktop, they would, you know, 413 00:22:00,025 --> 00:22:02,941 I think a lot of 'em would switch back to the dirt. 414 00:22:02,941 --> 00:22:07,066 - Tony yearned for simpler times at the dirt track, 415 00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:09,483 when he was hanging out with his pals 416 00:22:09,483 --> 00:22:11,983 and people would leave him alone. 417 00:22:11,983 --> 00:22:12,816 And 418 00:22:14,191 --> 00:22:15,275 he 419 00:22:15,275 --> 00:22:17,775 probably loved that 420 00:22:17,775 --> 00:22:18,858 more than 421 00:22:20,525 --> 00:22:22,608 winning the biggest race of his career, 422 00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:24,566 which undoubtedly was the Brickyard. 423 00:22:25,816 --> 00:22:27,900 - [Announcer] Tony Stewart, a native Hoosier. 424 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:29,441 His dream comes true! 425 00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:33,233 Tony Stewart wins the Allstate 400 at the Brickyard! 426 00:22:33,233 --> 00:22:34,858 - [Narrator] The Indianapolis Motor Speedway, 427 00:22:34,858 --> 00:22:37,066 home to the Brickyard 400, 428 00:22:37,066 --> 00:22:39,650 and Canandaigua's Motorsports Park 429 00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:42,191 in Ontario County, New York, 430 00:22:42,191 --> 00:22:43,525 are worlds apart. 431 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,733 At the Brickyard in 2005, 432 00:22:48,733 --> 00:22:53,733 Tony Stewart raced 160 laps on a 2 1/2 mile asphalt track 433 00:22:53,941 --> 00:22:56,525 in front of more than a quarter million fans. 434 00:22:56,525 --> 00:22:57,733 (crowd cheers) 435 00:22:57,733 --> 00:22:59,066 - [Announcer] That's his suite, 436 00:23:00,108 --> 00:23:02,316 outside of turn two, here comes Smoke. 437 00:23:02,316 --> 00:23:06,650 - [Narrator] His winning prize was around $554,000. 438 00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:08,066 (crowd cheers) 439 00:23:08,066 --> 00:23:10,358 - [Crowd] You're the man! Tony! 440 00:23:10,358 --> 00:23:12,941 (crowd cheers) 441 00:23:14,358 --> 00:23:15,775 - [Narrator] When he entered a sprint car race 442 00:23:15,775 --> 00:23:19,525 at Canandaigua's half-mile track in 2014, 443 00:23:19,525 --> 00:23:23,566 just a few thousand fans filled the front stretch stands. 444 00:23:23,566 --> 00:23:27,858 The winner was slated to take home $1500. 445 00:23:27,858 --> 00:23:31,400 - You know, why he was there that night racing for $1500? 446 00:23:33,025 --> 00:23:34,316 I don't have an answer. 447 00:23:34,316 --> 00:23:35,900 But, 448 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,566 I do know how aggressive he is 449 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:40,191 to race like that. 450 00:23:40,191 --> 00:23:42,650 The year before, almost to date, 451 00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:44,150 he caused the accident 452 00:23:44,150 --> 00:23:47,733 that the girl ended up with a broken back. 453 00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:50,733 (race cars buzzing) 454 00:23:51,691 --> 00:23:54,983 (crowd yelling) 455 00:23:54,983 --> 00:23:58,733 15 cars got involved, ours was one of 'em. 456 00:23:58,733 --> 00:24:01,525 It broke, ruined our chassis, and got bent up 457 00:24:01,525 --> 00:24:04,608 over him doing some stupid move in the front 458 00:24:04,608 --> 00:24:06,191 that shoulda never happened. 459 00:24:06,191 --> 00:24:08,441 It was the second, third lap of the race, you know, 460 00:24:08,441 --> 00:24:11,066 and he's making moves that, 461 00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:12,983 the weekly guys that we race against 462 00:24:12,983 --> 00:24:13,900 would never have done it. 463 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:16,066 - The people love the sprint cars. 464 00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:17,400 They're flipping, they're crashing, 465 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,900 they're, you know, wrecking equipment, 466 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,650 and that's all part of it. 467 00:24:21,650 --> 00:24:23,941 You know, we don't like crashing, 468 00:24:23,941 --> 00:24:26,066 we don't like flipping and destroying race cars. 469 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:27,025 It costs a lot of money. 470 00:24:27,025 --> 00:24:28,025 But, 471 00:24:28,025 --> 00:24:29,400 at the same time, 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,233 I think it's a lot of fun to put a show on for the fans. 473 00:24:34,441 --> 00:24:37,775 (rhythmic upbeat music) 474 00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:45,233 (crowd cheers) 475 00:24:50,816 --> 00:24:53,025 - Everybody's happy at the racetrack, for the most part. 476 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:54,525 You know, you have bad nights, 477 00:24:55,941 --> 00:24:59,358 but you look at the fans and everybody's smiling 478 00:24:59,358 --> 00:25:00,983 and laughing and cheering and waving, 479 00:25:00,983 --> 00:25:03,316 and that's the fun part of it. 480 00:25:03,316 --> 00:25:06,316 The kids, to me, to see the little kids out there 481 00:25:06,316 --> 00:25:08,691 and you know, trying to walk up to the fence 482 00:25:08,691 --> 00:25:09,983 and waving to us and stuff. 483 00:25:09,983 --> 00:25:12,983 That's, I get a kick out of that. 484 00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:17,066 (motors rev) 485 00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:27,233 (wistful music) 486 00:25:39,358 --> 00:25:41,441 - [Reporter] Witnesses at the Canandaigua Motorsports Park 487 00:25:41,441 --> 00:25:44,108 say the crash was like a scene from a horror movie. 488 00:25:44,108 --> 00:25:45,858 Around 10:30 Saturday night, 489 00:25:45,858 --> 00:25:48,733 NASCAR champion Tony Stewart collided with and killed 490 00:25:48,733 --> 00:25:51,066 20 year-old competitor, Kevin Ward Jr. 491 00:25:53,483 --> 00:25:55,400 - It's kind of all a blur at this point, 492 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,233 but something that I'll never forget 493 00:25:57,233 --> 00:26:00,983 is Kevin, you know, going through the air, 494 00:26:00,983 --> 00:26:02,775 limp, you know, and just, 495 00:26:03,733 --> 00:26:06,025 I've never seen that before, you know, 496 00:26:06,025 --> 00:26:08,275 and I hope I never see it again, but it just. 497 00:26:10,941 --> 00:26:12,775 Didn't look like a person, you know? 498 00:26:12,775 --> 00:26:14,108 It's almost like you take a fire suit 499 00:26:14,108 --> 00:26:15,441 and throw it up in the air. 500 00:26:17,608 --> 00:26:18,858 - He got out of his car. 501 00:26:18,858 --> 00:26:20,483 He ran out in the middle of the track. 502 00:26:20,483 --> 00:26:21,316 He pointed at Tony. 503 00:26:21,316 --> 00:26:23,483 Tony took one more lap around 504 00:26:23,483 --> 00:26:26,066 and he stood right there in front of the car 505 00:26:26,066 --> 00:26:27,691 and Tony never stopped. 506 00:26:27,691 --> 00:26:28,941 And that's all she wrote. 507 00:26:33,441 --> 00:26:34,525 - He was really excited. 508 00:26:34,525 --> 00:26:35,733 I mean, I could see, 509 00:26:35,733 --> 00:26:36,983 like when I arrived at the track that night, 510 00:26:36,983 --> 00:26:39,441 like I could see like the joy in him. 511 00:26:39,441 --> 00:26:40,900 Like I could tell he was just so happy 512 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,066 that his car was running, it was hooked, you know, 513 00:26:43,066 --> 00:26:45,566 it was doing exactly what he wanted it to do. 514 00:26:45,566 --> 00:26:48,191 Like, he knew he had a good chance to do really well. 515 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,483 - And then to see Tony pull up that night, 516 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:57,316 that was a big deal, you know? 517 00:26:57,316 --> 00:26:59,233 Because we just broke into this division 518 00:26:59,233 --> 00:27:01,191 and now we're gonna be racing against him. 519 00:27:01,191 --> 00:27:03,108 And then to be running, you know, 520 00:27:03,108 --> 00:27:05,358 I shouldn't say door-to-door, 521 00:27:05,358 --> 00:27:06,525 because he was definitely 522 00:27:06,525 --> 00:27:09,400 a little bit better than we were that night, 523 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,941 you know, it was kind of a big deal for us 524 00:27:10,941 --> 00:27:13,066 to try to keep up and try to learn, 525 00:27:13,066 --> 00:27:15,316 especially from a veteran driver, 526 00:27:15,316 --> 00:27:17,316 on lines and where to run. 527 00:27:17,316 --> 00:27:19,150 - Kayla was there with their little, 528 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:21,566 with my grandson there, Landon. 529 00:27:21,566 --> 00:27:23,775 And Kevin's still working on his car. 530 00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:26,650 Landon, he was always involved, 531 00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:28,400 you know, working on the car too. 532 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,275 I mean, he was only four years old, 533 00:27:30,275 --> 00:27:31,358 but he was interested in it, 534 00:27:31,358 --> 00:27:33,900 and had wrenches in his hand all the time. 535 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,691 - I remember he was standing in the trailer. 536 00:27:37,691 --> 00:27:40,525 I think he was probably texting his girlfriend really quick. 537 00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:42,608 And I told him, "I'm gonna go up in the stands now." 538 00:27:42,608 --> 00:27:43,900 "Good luck, bud," you know. 539 00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:46,983 And he just looked at me and he says, "Thanks, Mama." 540 00:27:46,983 --> 00:27:48,983 And I went up to the stands. 541 00:27:50,275 --> 00:27:51,483 Kevin pushed him out. 542 00:27:51,483 --> 00:27:53,316 And I remember right before he went on the track, 543 00:27:53,316 --> 00:27:55,066 he told me that, you know, 544 00:27:55,066 --> 00:27:56,608 the last thing he said to Kevin was, 545 00:27:56,608 --> 00:27:58,608 "It's gonna be a good night tonight, Pa." 546 00:27:58,608 --> 00:28:01,608 I mean I just think that just goes to show 547 00:28:01,608 --> 00:28:03,650 how much he really wanted to win this race. 548 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:05,150 - [Announcer] Everybody falls in line 549 00:28:05,150 --> 00:28:07,066 where they need to be behind the pace truck. 550 00:28:07,066 --> 00:28:08,150 And the next time by, 551 00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:10,316 we will turn them loose with the green. 552 00:28:10,316 --> 00:28:11,941 - And it come across the radio, you know, 553 00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:14,025 "Drivers get ready for the A main," 554 00:28:14,025 --> 00:28:15,316 'cause weather's moving in. 555 00:28:15,316 --> 00:28:16,608 - [Announcer] And Tommy Wickham in row two. 556 00:28:16,608 --> 00:28:18,775 Darryl Ruggles and Kevin Ward in row three. 557 00:28:18,775 --> 00:28:21,275 Jessica Zemken and Cory Sparks in row four. 558 00:28:21,275 --> 00:28:23,275 Jeff Cook and Steve Poirier in row five. 559 00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:26,233 Scott Kreutter and Tony Stewart in row number six. 560 00:28:26,233 --> 00:28:29,816 - I was up in the grandstands with my family and everything, 561 00:28:29,816 --> 00:28:33,566 and it was something I always did on a regular basis. 562 00:28:33,566 --> 00:28:34,775 Like if Kevin spun out, 563 00:28:34,775 --> 00:28:36,733 or if I thought there was any chance 564 00:28:36,733 --> 00:28:38,608 that he could have gotten hurt or anything like that, 565 00:28:38,608 --> 00:28:41,650 I always go down and check on him. 566 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:44,483 (motors rumbling) 567 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:48,900 - Well, the accident happened on lap 13. 568 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,483 - [Newscaster] Stewart's number 14 car 569 00:28:50,483 --> 00:28:54,316 seems to make contact with Kevin Ward Jr.'s 13 car, 570 00:28:54,316 --> 00:28:56,983 which you see hits the wall and spins out. Now- 571 00:28:56,983 --> 00:28:58,316 - When you're a big star 572 00:28:58,316 --> 00:29:00,900 and you go to a place like Canandaigua, 573 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:02,691 you always have 574 00:29:02,691 --> 00:29:03,983 sort of the 575 00:29:03,983 --> 00:29:07,233 situation like the fastest gun in the West, 576 00:29:07,233 --> 00:29:09,775 where you have these local guys who are like, 577 00:29:09,775 --> 00:29:13,066 "I don't care who he is, he's not running over me." 578 00:29:13,066 --> 00:29:14,275 - [Announcer] Into turn number one. 579 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:15,566 Tries to slow the slider. 580 00:29:15,566 --> 00:29:17,816 Oh! And we've got Ward into the wall! 581 00:29:17,816 --> 00:29:19,066 Ward into the wall! 582 00:29:19,066 --> 00:29:21,108 He bounces it over the cushion, 583 00:29:21,108 --> 00:29:23,858 and off the wall into turn number one. 584 00:29:23,858 --> 00:29:25,525 We are under caution. 585 00:29:25,525 --> 00:29:30,441 - The weekly racers know how each one, each driver races. 586 00:29:30,441 --> 00:29:32,900 And they know Kevin's a, you know, 587 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:34,941 hammer down, up on the top. 588 00:29:34,941 --> 00:29:36,983 When you slide him, you'd better give him some room, 589 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:39,191 or you're gonna make contact with him. 590 00:29:39,191 --> 00:29:42,608 Well, Tony, not being a weekly racer with him, 591 00:29:42,608 --> 00:29:45,150 just slid him so close, you know, 592 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,066 actually clipped him, the front end. 593 00:29:52,483 --> 00:29:54,983 - A slide job is on a dirt track. 594 00:29:54,983 --> 00:29:57,275 When you go in the turn, 595 00:29:57,275 --> 00:29:59,316 you're low in the turn, 596 00:29:59,316 --> 00:30:02,566 and you get more traction and fly outta the turn 597 00:30:02,566 --> 00:30:06,275 and slide across in front of the car you're racing against. 598 00:30:06,275 --> 00:30:08,816 In other words, for a lot of times, there's two grooves. 599 00:30:08,816 --> 00:30:10,983 There's one guy low, one guy high. 600 00:30:10,983 --> 00:30:12,775 They start to surge ahead, 601 00:30:12,775 --> 00:30:15,816 then the guy on the outside has more RPMs 602 00:30:15,816 --> 00:30:17,483 and he goes back by. 603 00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,816 A slide job is when that guy on the bottom 604 00:30:19,816 --> 00:30:21,983 goes extra hard into the turn, 605 00:30:21,983 --> 00:30:24,275 and slides up the higher groove 606 00:30:24,275 --> 00:30:26,108 and that's the way he makes the pass. 607 00:30:26,983 --> 00:30:29,191 - [Announcer] And Kevin Ward's coming out of his car. 608 00:30:29,191 --> 00:30:30,941 He is looking for somebody. 609 00:30:31,775 --> 00:30:33,316 - That's not abnormal. 610 00:30:33,316 --> 00:30:35,650 Usually you get out and you take your steering wheel 611 00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:36,858 and you chuck it at the other car, 612 00:30:36,858 --> 00:30:40,191 or you run out there and you wave 'em down 613 00:30:40,191 --> 00:30:42,858 and flip 'em the bird, or you know. 614 00:30:42,858 --> 00:30:47,358 Obviously, when you end up in the wall, you know, 615 00:30:47,358 --> 00:30:49,483 you're not happy, you know. 616 00:30:49,483 --> 00:30:50,983 And everybody has a right to be, 617 00:30:50,983 --> 00:30:52,608 there's a lot of money on the line, 618 00:30:52,608 --> 00:30:54,733 and a lot of pride, a lot of ego. 619 00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:57,400 - Look, it is part of the ethic of racing. 620 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,608 There's no doubt about it. 621 00:30:58,608 --> 00:31:01,441 And you're right, Tony Stewart, regardless of this incident, 622 00:31:01,441 --> 00:31:03,316 separate from this incident, 623 00:31:03,316 --> 00:31:05,275 has made a career, in some ways, 624 00:31:05,275 --> 00:31:07,316 of having a hotheaded personality. 625 00:31:07,316 --> 00:31:08,941 Fans love him for it. 626 00:31:08,941 --> 00:31:11,275 It is part of the reason he has made so much money. 627 00:31:11,275 --> 00:31:12,441 You gotta take a look at this. 628 00:31:12,441 --> 00:31:16,275 This is from a few years ago, an incident with Matt Kenseth. 629 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:18,233 He and Tony Stewart get tangled up. 630 00:31:18,233 --> 00:31:19,733 Stewart feels that Kenseth 631 00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:22,066 knocked him out of a winning position in the race. 632 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:23,025 And what does he do? 633 00:31:23,025 --> 00:31:26,525 He walks onto the track, in front of a car, basically, 634 00:31:26,525 --> 00:31:28,858 and throws his helmet at Kenseth. 635 00:31:28,858 --> 00:31:31,066 You tell me how close this is. 636 00:31:31,066 --> 00:31:31,900 - You know, we know 637 00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,066 that it wasn't a smart decision that Kevin made 638 00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:36,108 to get out on the track, 639 00:31:36,108 --> 00:31:37,316 to get out of his car. 640 00:31:37,316 --> 00:31:39,733 We acknowledge that, we know that. 641 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:40,816 But I strongly feel like 642 00:31:40,816 --> 00:31:43,316 that shouldn't have cost him his life, either. 643 00:31:43,316 --> 00:31:45,566 (foreboding music) 644 00:31:45,566 --> 00:31:47,733 - [Announcer] And Kevin Ward's coming out of his car. 645 00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:49,441 He is looking for somebody. 646 00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:54,816 He is looking for, 647 00:31:55,733 --> 00:31:58,775 I believe it was Tony Stewart. 648 00:31:58,775 --> 00:31:59,941 - [Spectator] Oh, my God! 649 00:31:59,941 --> 00:32:03,900 - [Speaker] Red, red, red, red, red, red! 650 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,650 (dramatic music) 651 00:32:09,858 --> 00:32:11,400 - When Tony did a slide job, 652 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,233 and I see him spin and hit the wall, 653 00:32:14,816 --> 00:32:16,900 I immediately started down the stands. 654 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,566 I wanted to go see him. 655 00:32:21,025 --> 00:32:23,025 Meantime, while I was going down the stands, 656 00:32:23,025 --> 00:32:24,441 that other lap occurred. 657 00:32:24,441 --> 00:32:25,858 And that's when he got hit. 658 00:32:25,858 --> 00:32:27,900 - Seeing Kevin get out of his car, 659 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:29,525 seeing him, you know, he was coming down the track, 660 00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:31,608 I thought he was actually coming to my car. 661 00:32:31,608 --> 00:32:33,233 Me and Kevin have, 662 00:32:33,233 --> 00:32:35,441 I might have ran him outta room in that race. 663 00:32:35,441 --> 00:32:37,400 So I thought he might have been mad at me. 664 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,233 Came at my car. 665 00:32:38,233 --> 00:32:41,691 I gassed it, swerved away from him, and said to myself, 666 00:32:41,691 --> 00:32:45,483 that next guy in line was probably gonna hit him. 667 00:32:45,483 --> 00:32:49,066 - I saw him come down the track to, 668 00:32:49,066 --> 00:32:52,066 I believe to yell at Tony Stewart 669 00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:55,816 for the little fender-bender they got into, 670 00:32:55,816 --> 00:32:57,233 which 671 00:32:57,233 --> 00:32:59,150 unfortunately, 672 00:32:59,150 --> 00:33:00,066 was common. 673 00:33:01,608 --> 00:33:03,150 We couldn't get to him in time. 674 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:05,525 Usually if we can get to 'em in time, 675 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,733 we can put a car in the way, you know? 676 00:33:09,816 --> 00:33:12,900 (somber piano music) 677 00:33:14,483 --> 00:33:15,983 - There was this big cop in front of me. 678 00:33:15,983 --> 00:33:19,191 He was big and you know, muscles. 679 00:33:21,233 --> 00:33:22,691 I just wanted to get by him so bad. 680 00:33:22,691 --> 00:33:25,150 I just wanted to go over there, and you know, 681 00:33:25,150 --> 00:33:27,483 I remember like begging him and pleading with him, 682 00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:28,816 "Please let me over there." 683 00:33:28,816 --> 00:33:30,941 Like, "I need to be with my son right now." 684 00:33:32,275 --> 00:33:34,691 It never happened, they never let me go over there. 685 00:33:36,566 --> 00:33:39,983 Five minutes went by, 10 minutes went by. 686 00:33:39,983 --> 00:33:43,150 15, 20 minutes went by, and they were still doing CPR. 687 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:50,358 I'm a nurse, so I kinda knew that it wasn't good. 688 00:33:53,733 --> 00:33:55,483 - Once the ambulance got there, 689 00:33:55,483 --> 00:33:58,191 we ended up putting 'em in the ambulance. 690 00:33:58,191 --> 00:33:59,775 I was in the back of the ambulance doing CPR 691 00:33:59,775 --> 00:34:01,816 all the way to Thompson Hospital. 692 00:34:02,691 --> 00:34:03,525 - [Interviewer] And when you got to Thompson Hospital, 693 00:34:03,525 --> 00:34:05,733 did the healthcare professionals take over? 694 00:34:05,733 --> 00:34:06,566 - They took over. 695 00:34:06,566 --> 00:34:09,650 As soon as we backed up and opened the doors, they came in. 696 00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:12,440 Well, we got 'em out and I was doing CPR. 697 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,233 One of their nurses continued CPR 698 00:34:15,233 --> 00:34:17,775 all the way into, the rest of the way into the hospital. 699 00:34:22,025 --> 00:34:25,440 - Operator of the car that was struck 700 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,233 was transported to Thompson Hospital in Canandaigua 701 00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:32,065 by ambulance. 702 00:34:32,065 --> 00:34:36,150 At the hospital, the operator was pronounced 703 00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:37,190 dead on arrival. 704 00:34:39,858 --> 00:34:41,483 - Seeing it with your two eyes, 705 00:34:42,525 --> 00:34:45,233 and people are coming up to you that night and going, 706 00:34:46,065 --> 00:34:47,900 "Kevin's not with us anymore." 707 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:49,690 "Kevin's dead," you know. 708 00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:51,650 And just saying, "No, he's not." 709 00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:54,025 "No, there's no way." 710 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:54,858 - I, 711 00:34:56,025 --> 00:34:57,065 just felt like I, 712 00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:58,400 like the only thing I could do was pray. 713 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,275 Like, I needed more help, I needed to pray. 714 00:35:00,275 --> 00:35:01,941 Like I just, I knew it was bad. 715 00:35:01,941 --> 00:35:03,900 I knew it wasn't good. 716 00:35:06,025 --> 00:35:08,066 I went out to one of the nurses at the desk there, 717 00:35:08,066 --> 00:35:10,150 and I asked her like, "Do you guys have a chapel somewhere? 718 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:12,733 Do you have somewhere that I can go? 719 00:35:12,733 --> 00:35:14,233 Like, I need to say a few prayers. 720 00:35:14,233 --> 00:35:16,733 Is there a chapel here in the hospital?" 721 00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:18,733 And she looked at me and she says, 722 00:35:18,733 --> 00:35:21,025 "I think you should go back in the waiting room, 723 00:35:21,025 --> 00:35:24,066 because the doctor's gonna be coming in to talk to you." 724 00:35:24,066 --> 00:35:25,858 So at that point I knew he was gone. 725 00:35:29,566 --> 00:35:32,066 - As far as affecting the local, you know, 726 00:35:32,066 --> 00:35:33,525 the local community, 727 00:35:35,108 --> 00:35:35,941 everybody 728 00:35:37,316 --> 00:35:38,400 took it pretty hard. 729 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:43,733 Sorry. 730 00:35:54,441 --> 00:35:57,525 (clears throat) 731 00:35:57,525 --> 00:35:58,608 It still, 732 00:35:58,608 --> 00:35:59,441 it still 733 00:36:01,775 --> 00:36:02,608 hurts. 734 00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:10,066 (quiet piano music) 735 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:23,066 (go-kart sputters) 736 00:36:35,608 --> 00:36:37,525 - I hate that my brother's not there. 737 00:36:37,525 --> 00:36:38,525 That wasn't our plan. 738 00:36:38,525 --> 00:36:40,108 He was supposed to be, 739 00:36:40,108 --> 00:36:42,650 it was the Ward Racing Team, with Papa, 740 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:45,900 and you know, Uncle Kevin, and my son and my other nephew, 741 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,191 you know, they were going to be a team. 742 00:36:48,191 --> 00:36:50,025 And that team's not complete anymore. 743 00:36:51,108 --> 00:36:53,358 - I hate the fact that my son's death 744 00:36:53,358 --> 00:36:55,441 is on the internet for everybody 745 00:36:57,233 --> 00:36:58,233 to see, 746 00:36:58,233 --> 00:36:59,900 over and over and over again. 747 00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,066 And that was really hard for us to accept. 748 00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:09,441 - [Spectator] Tony Stewart just hit that guy, Alex! 749 00:37:09,441 --> 00:37:11,358 Tony Stewart just hit that guy! 750 00:37:11,358 --> 00:37:12,525 - This is something that will definitely 751 00:37:12,525 --> 00:37:13,775 affect my life forever. 752 00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:17,275 This is a sadness and a pain 753 00:37:17,275 --> 00:37:20,108 that I hope no one ever has to experience in their life. 754 00:37:21,525 --> 00:37:22,358 That being said, 755 00:37:22,358 --> 00:37:25,525 I know that the pain and the mourning 756 00:37:25,525 --> 00:37:28,608 that Kevin Ward's family and friends are experiencing 757 00:37:30,566 --> 00:37:33,483 is something that I can't possibly imagine. 758 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:37,316 I want Kevin's father, Kevin Sr., 759 00:37:37,316 --> 00:37:39,691 and his mother, Pam, 760 00:37:39,691 --> 00:37:43,650 and his sisters, Christi and Kayla and Katelyn, 761 00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:46,775 to know that every day I'm thinking about 'em 762 00:37:46,775 --> 00:37:48,233 and praying for them. 763 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,066 - He never, 764 00:37:50,483 --> 00:37:52,900 never came over to any of us that night, 765 00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:54,316 never came to the hospital, 766 00:37:54,316 --> 00:37:56,858 never to ask how we were doing. 767 00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:57,775 Never contacted- 768 00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:59,233 - He never showed any concern for us. 769 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:02,275 Like there was, there was no concern for us whatsoever. 770 00:38:02,275 --> 00:38:03,858 Like, he never checked on Kevin that night. 771 00:38:03,858 --> 00:38:07,525 He never checked afterwards to see, like, how we were doing. 772 00:38:07,525 --> 00:38:08,775 He never... 773 00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:14,108 It's like we weren't even a thought of his. 774 00:38:14,108 --> 00:38:15,858 Like, I don't understand. 775 00:38:15,858 --> 00:38:18,108 I don't know how I can forgive somebody 776 00:38:18,108 --> 00:38:21,150 when he seems to have no remorse. 777 00:38:22,525 --> 00:38:23,441 - [Court Official] Do you swear to tell the truth, 778 00:38:23,441 --> 00:38:24,566 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 779 00:38:24,566 --> 00:38:25,608 so help you, God? 780 00:38:25,608 --> 00:38:28,066 - Yes. - [Court Official] Thank you. 781 00:38:28,066 --> 00:38:29,358 - [Interviewer] State your name, sir. 782 00:38:29,358 --> 00:38:30,566 - Anthony Wayne Stewart. 783 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,775 - [Interviewer] Mr. Stewart, 784 00:38:32,775 --> 00:38:35,525 do you believe that a operator of a motor vehicle 785 00:38:35,525 --> 00:38:38,400 should not steer that motor vehicle toward a pedestrian? 786 00:38:39,441 --> 00:38:40,275 - Absolutely. 787 00:38:46,316 --> 00:38:48,816 (tense music) 788 00:38:52,525 --> 00:38:55,025 - [Interviewer] At any point from when 789 00:38:55,025 --> 00:38:58,358 you first saw Mr. Ward's car, 790 00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:02,150 well, at any point after that, 791 00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:05,150 did you apply the throttle to your car? 792 00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:05,983 - Yes. 793 00:39:05,983 --> 00:39:07,358 - [Interviewer] When did you do that? 794 00:39:08,191 --> 00:39:10,816 - (sighs) In-between the time, 795 00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:12,358 the first time I saw him 796 00:39:12,358 --> 00:39:15,566 to after Chuck Hebing went past him 797 00:39:15,566 --> 00:39:17,275 and I realized he was running down the racetrack 798 00:39:17,275 --> 00:39:18,275 toward me. 799 00:39:18,275 --> 00:39:19,108 - [Interviewer] Okay. 800 00:39:19,108 --> 00:39:20,691 For what purpose did you apply throttle to your car? 801 00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:22,566 - [Tony] To try to drive the car down to the left, 802 00:39:22,566 --> 00:39:23,400 to get away from him. 803 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,525 - [Interviewer] And was that immediately prior to the impact 804 00:39:27,525 --> 00:39:28,566 between him and your car? 805 00:39:28,566 --> 00:39:29,733 - Yes. 806 00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:32,983 - [Interviewer] And if you apply throttle in that situation 807 00:39:32,983 --> 00:39:33,816 and steer to the left, 808 00:39:33,816 --> 00:39:36,275 isn't the back of your car gonna slide to the right? 809 00:39:36,275 --> 00:39:38,191 - It did in that scenario, yes. 810 00:39:38,191 --> 00:39:40,441 - [Interviewer] But that's the typical way it's gonna move. 811 00:39:40,441 --> 00:39:41,650 - Not necessarily. 812 00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:43,066 - [Interviewer] What other way would it move? 813 00:39:43,066 --> 00:39:44,775 - [Tony] I mean, depending on the track conditions, 814 00:39:44,775 --> 00:39:46,441 if the track's really sticky, it wouldn't, 815 00:39:46,441 --> 00:39:48,275 it may not move at all. 816 00:39:48,275 --> 00:39:50,483 - I was behind him, right directly behind him 817 00:39:50,483 --> 00:39:51,316 going into turn one and two, 818 00:39:51,316 --> 00:39:52,983 and they were telling us to stay low, 819 00:39:52,983 --> 00:39:55,191 and I started to come down a little bit, 820 00:39:55,191 --> 00:39:58,858 and I could see Tony's left front wheel turn to the right, 821 00:39:59,816 --> 00:40:02,275 closer in the direction of where Kevin was, 822 00:40:02,275 --> 00:40:03,983 up higher onto the race track. 823 00:40:05,733 --> 00:40:07,233 And then I could see, 824 00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:09,441 I was on the, just underneath him 825 00:40:09,441 --> 00:40:11,066 and I could look up and see, 826 00:40:11,066 --> 00:40:13,066 I could see Kevin still there in front of his car 827 00:40:13,066 --> 00:40:14,691 and with his hands in the air. 828 00:40:14,691 --> 00:40:15,983 And 829 00:40:15,983 --> 00:40:18,733 I saw the rear of the car stand up 830 00:40:18,733 --> 00:40:20,900 and the dust come off the rear tires 831 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,858 as Tony hit the throttle. 832 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,691 - [Interviewer] And then? 833 00:40:34,691 --> 00:40:36,233 - And then when he hit the throttle, 834 00:40:36,233 --> 00:40:38,858 the rear of the car came around, 835 00:40:38,858 --> 00:40:40,900 and the front end of the car went to the left, 836 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,483 the car got sideways. 837 00:40:45,483 --> 00:40:47,400 And he struck Kevin. 838 00:40:48,816 --> 00:40:51,775 - And as I believe he saw 839 00:40:51,775 --> 00:40:53,483 Ward pointing at him, 840 00:40:53,483 --> 00:40:57,441 he started to drift up the track towards him. 841 00:40:58,441 --> 00:41:03,441 And then Ward was moving his feet quick (fingers tap) 842 00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:05,233 and, 843 00:41:05,233 --> 00:41:06,441 like stutter-stepping, 844 00:41:07,316 --> 00:41:08,983 as Stewart was coming at him. 845 00:41:09,816 --> 00:41:12,483 And then Stewart hit the gas, 846 00:41:12,483 --> 00:41:16,025 the car turned sideways, and I didn't see Ward anymore. 847 00:41:16,025 --> 00:41:18,358 - [Interviewer] What makes you comfortable saying 848 00:41:18,358 --> 00:41:21,233 that you think Mr. Stewart hit the gas? 849 00:41:21,233 --> 00:41:23,150 - You could hear the car rev. 850 00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:25,150 - [Interviewer] And did you, 851 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:27,441 do you feel comfortable that you can associate that rev 852 00:41:27,441 --> 00:41:29,400 with Mr. Stewart's car? 853 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,858 - Yes. 854 00:41:30,858 --> 00:41:33,025 - I saw Tony's car 855 00:41:33,025 --> 00:41:33,983 go up, 856 00:41:33,983 --> 00:41:37,108 and then he gassed it and came back down, 857 00:41:37,108 --> 00:41:40,691 and he collected Kevin into his rear tire. 858 00:41:43,941 --> 00:41:47,316 And then he was thrown approximately 70 feet. 859 00:41:47,316 --> 00:41:49,275 - I mean, we said from day one 860 00:41:49,275 --> 00:41:51,691 that it looked like he had moved up the track 861 00:41:51,691 --> 00:41:54,025 and obviously hit the throttle. 862 00:41:54,025 --> 00:41:55,816 And I know them cars, 863 00:41:55,816 --> 00:41:57,400 what they do when you hit the throttle, 864 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,858 you know, it fishtails out the back end to the right. 865 00:42:00,858 --> 00:42:05,775 So, you know, we're like, "Why'd he hit the throttle?" 866 00:42:05,775 --> 00:42:08,816 - Tony's car, there whether, yeah, 867 00:42:08,816 --> 00:42:10,525 I don't know what he was doing. 868 00:42:10,525 --> 00:42:12,066 You know, I'm not in his head. 869 00:42:13,108 --> 00:42:14,358 All I know is that 870 00:42:15,525 --> 00:42:17,066 the rear tires lifted right up, 871 00:42:17,066 --> 00:42:18,441 blew up big and skinny 872 00:42:18,441 --> 00:42:20,150 and the dust rolled off of 'em. 873 00:42:21,108 --> 00:42:22,941 And next thing you know, 874 00:42:24,108 --> 00:42:25,608 Kevin's flying through the air. 875 00:42:25,608 --> 00:42:26,608 I don't know, 876 00:42:30,275 --> 00:42:32,150 I don't know if he was driving straight at him. 877 00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:34,608 I don't know if he was getting on the throttle 878 00:42:34,608 --> 00:42:35,441 to try to miss him 879 00:42:35,441 --> 00:42:37,441 and try to get down to the bottom of the racetrack. 880 00:42:37,441 --> 00:42:38,275 I don't know. 881 00:42:40,025 --> 00:42:42,275 There's a split second there that I can't see. 882 00:42:42,275 --> 00:42:45,108 - [Interviewer] You saw Mr. Ward struck, 883 00:42:45,108 --> 00:42:48,608 and then did you ever see him move again? 884 00:42:50,775 --> 00:42:52,191 - No, I saw him, 885 00:42:53,858 --> 00:42:55,566 I saw Tony make impact 886 00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:57,775 and strike Kevin 887 00:42:57,775 --> 00:43:01,525 and I saw Kevin going through the air 888 00:43:01,525 --> 00:43:04,025 and I immediately turned onto the left. 889 00:43:05,691 --> 00:43:06,691 I tried to look and, 890 00:43:09,441 --> 00:43:10,275 no. 891 00:43:16,858 --> 00:43:19,941 - It's inconceivable for me to believe 892 00:43:19,941 --> 00:43:24,233 that Tony Stewart intentionally hurt another driver. 893 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:28,566 But it is not inconceivable for me to believe 894 00:43:28,566 --> 00:43:31,316 that Tony felt like he was protecting his turf. 895 00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:40,691 You may have said, "I'll fix his young ass," 896 00:43:40,691 --> 00:43:45,025 but you've done it 1,000 times and no one's got hurt. 897 00:43:45,025 --> 00:43:46,816 And there is a tragedy, 898 00:43:46,816 --> 00:43:50,650 there is a comedy of errors that takes place. 899 00:43:51,608 --> 00:43:56,608 But I'm positive that Tony didn't try to kill somebody. 900 00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:00,566 I think that he tried to say, 901 00:44:00,566 --> 00:44:04,275 "I'm Tony Stewart, you don't mess with me." 902 00:44:04,275 --> 00:44:07,025 But I think it was probably 903 00:44:07,025 --> 00:44:10,316 something that had happened 1,000 times 904 00:44:10,316 --> 00:44:13,941 and nothing bad ever happened. 905 00:44:13,941 --> 00:44:16,691 (haunting music) 906 00:44:19,150 --> 00:44:21,233 - But again, I want to please emphasize 907 00:44:21,233 --> 00:44:23,608 and make it clear that at this very moment, 908 00:44:25,233 --> 00:44:27,316 there are no facts in hand 909 00:44:27,316 --> 00:44:31,316 that would substantiate or support a criminal charge 910 00:44:31,316 --> 00:44:34,400 or indicate criminal intent on the part of any individual. 911 00:44:38,191 --> 00:44:41,191 (suspenseful music) 912 00:44:56,108 --> 00:44:58,858 (staccato music) 913 00:45:09,608 --> 00:45:13,191 (staccato music continues) 914 00:45:20,233 --> 00:45:21,775 - [Interviewer] Would you state your name please, sir? 915 00:45:21,775 --> 00:45:23,483 - My name is John C. Abraham. 916 00:45:23,483 --> 00:45:24,441 I'm an investigator 917 00:45:24,441 --> 00:45:27,150 for the Ontario County Sheriff's Department. 918 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:28,191 - [Interviewer] Let me let you look at 919 00:45:28,191 --> 00:45:30,733 what we've marked as Exhibit 13. 920 00:45:30,733 --> 00:45:32,525 Do you recognize that? - Yep. 921 00:45:32,525 --> 00:45:33,358 - [Interviewer] And what is it? 922 00:45:33,358 --> 00:45:35,441 - That's a statement I took from Mr. Stewart 923 00:45:35,441 --> 00:45:36,775 on 924 00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:38,400 August 9th, 2014. 925 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,358 I started typing at 11:49 p.m. 926 00:45:41,358 --> 00:45:42,650 - [Interviewer] And was that a recorded statement 927 00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:43,816 that was later transcribed, or were you- 928 00:45:43,816 --> 00:45:45,941 - No, it was, I typed it. 929 00:45:45,941 --> 00:45:49,483 (keyboard clicking) 930 00:45:49,483 --> 00:45:50,691 - He says, 931 00:45:50,691 --> 00:45:52,816 "We came around turn two under caution, 932 00:45:52,816 --> 00:45:56,275 because the driver that stepped out of his car had crashed. 933 00:45:56,275 --> 00:46:00,233 When I came around turn two, there was Chuck, 934 00:46:00,233 --> 00:46:01,900 he was in the car in front of me, 935 00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,275 and the driver was running down the racetrack 936 00:46:04,275 --> 00:46:06,608 and almost ran into Chuck's car. 937 00:46:06,608 --> 00:46:09,608 And when Chuck went by, he was running at me 938 00:46:09,608 --> 00:46:11,275 because he was upset 939 00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:15,108 that I was the car next to him when he crashed. 940 00:46:15,108 --> 00:46:18,816 And he stepped right in front of the car and I swerved, 941 00:46:18,816 --> 00:46:22,400 and then I felt my right rear tire make contact with him." 942 00:46:23,483 --> 00:46:26,066 What are your thoughts on that first statement? 943 00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:27,983 - That was his first story. 944 00:46:27,983 --> 00:46:31,400 He seen Kevin walking toward the 45. 945 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,983 He seen him walking toward his car. 946 00:46:33,983 --> 00:46:36,441 So that was the first story. 947 00:46:36,441 --> 00:46:37,858 Well, the last story was 948 00:46:37,858 --> 00:46:40,066 that he lost track of him or whatever, 949 00:46:40,066 --> 00:46:43,650 but I mean, that was the original story there, so. 950 00:46:45,191 --> 00:46:50,191 - Mr. Stewart said that he attempted to swerve 951 00:46:50,275 --> 00:46:54,108 and that he felt the right rear tire 952 00:46:54,108 --> 00:46:55,650 impact Mr. Ward. 953 00:46:55,650 --> 00:46:56,733 - [Interviewer] That's the general substance 954 00:46:56,733 --> 00:46:59,566 of your first conversation with Mr. Stewart that night? 955 00:46:59,566 --> 00:47:01,566 - That's the only conversation I had. 956 00:47:01,566 --> 00:47:02,483 - [Interviewer] Oh, I misheard you. 957 00:47:02,483 --> 00:47:04,483 I thought I heard you say you talked to him more than once. 958 00:47:04,483 --> 00:47:06,025 - Nope, that was the only time. 959 00:47:06,025 --> 00:47:09,108 (high-pitched music) 960 00:47:15,441 --> 00:47:18,233 - [Narrator] Tony Stewart's nine-question conversation 961 00:47:18,233 --> 00:47:19,358 with police officers 962 00:47:19,358 --> 00:47:21,650 is written up in less than half a page. 963 00:47:24,941 --> 00:47:26,483 After the first answer, 964 00:47:26,483 --> 00:47:31,191 Stewart spoke a total of 57 words and the interview ended. 965 00:47:32,941 --> 00:47:35,358 - [Interviewer] Going out to investigate that evening, 966 00:47:35,358 --> 00:47:38,608 did you follow super sprint racing? 967 00:47:38,608 --> 00:47:40,941 - I did not, I still don't. 968 00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:42,858 I did not know any, I mean, 969 00:47:42,858 --> 00:47:44,608 I don't follow sprint racing at all. 970 00:47:44,608 --> 00:47:46,608 Like I said, it's actually the first time 971 00:47:46,608 --> 00:47:50,108 I've ever had to go to the race track for an incident, 972 00:47:50,108 --> 00:47:52,316 you know, since, in 27 years. 973 00:47:52,316 --> 00:47:53,566 - [Interviewer] Have you ever done an investigation 974 00:47:53,566 --> 00:47:57,858 of any sort of race car or crash? 975 00:47:57,858 --> 00:47:59,691 - No, I have not. 976 00:47:59,691 --> 00:48:02,108 - [Interviewer] Prior to this one, I guess I should say. 977 00:48:02,108 --> 00:48:03,316 Is that fair? 978 00:48:03,316 --> 00:48:04,150 - [Deputy Rago] That's correct. 979 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:05,858 - [Interviewer] So what's typed up on exhibit 13 980 00:48:05,858 --> 00:48:08,150 is what Mr. Stewart said to you that night, is that correct? 981 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:09,108 - [Investigator] Correct. 982 00:48:09,108 --> 00:48:11,275 - [Interviewer] He didn't say anything to you, 983 00:48:11,275 --> 00:48:13,025 about, for instance, 984 00:48:13,025 --> 00:48:16,691 what his position was on the track prior to the collision. 985 00:48:16,691 --> 00:48:18,150 Is that fair? - [Investigator] That's fair. 986 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:18,983 - [Interviewer] He did not say anything to you 987 00:48:18,983 --> 00:48:22,191 about whether he applied the throttle to his vehicle 988 00:48:22,191 --> 00:48:24,108 at any point prior to the crash? 989 00:48:24,108 --> 00:48:24,983 - No, he did not. 990 00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,108 - I don't know that they asked the right questions 991 00:48:29,108 --> 00:48:30,650 on the night of the accident. 992 00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:32,691 They had heard what happened. 993 00:48:32,691 --> 00:48:34,108 They had heard that Kevin Ward 994 00:48:34,108 --> 00:48:36,066 stepped in front of Tony Stewart's car. 995 00:48:36,983 --> 00:48:38,900 They're gonna think, you know, 996 00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:41,483 "Blame is on Kevin Ward. 997 00:48:41,483 --> 00:48:45,525 Tony Stewart was just a hapless victim in all this. 998 00:48:45,525 --> 00:48:49,608 And you know, he's probably a little bit upset about it, 999 00:48:49,608 --> 00:48:51,150 and we're gonna go easy on him." 1000 00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:54,025 - "Oh, he just stepped in the front of my car." 1001 00:48:54,025 --> 00:48:56,150 Was that true or not? Okay. 1002 00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:59,400 They have no basis to say is that really what did happen. 1003 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,358 But just general appearance is, you know, 1004 00:49:01,358 --> 00:49:03,608 "Car is going here and the guy is hit by the car, 1005 00:49:03,608 --> 00:49:05,900 so he must step into the car." 1006 00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:07,941 That's what their reasoning was. 1007 00:49:07,941 --> 00:49:10,316 They have no base or science or anything like that. 1008 00:49:10,316 --> 00:49:11,483 - [Interviewer] When you had a chance 1009 00:49:11,483 --> 00:49:14,608 to meet with Mr. Stewart that evening, August 9, 1010 00:49:16,025 --> 00:49:16,941 did you have the impression 1011 00:49:16,941 --> 00:49:19,441 that he was aware of what had occurred on the track? 1012 00:49:19,441 --> 00:49:20,691 - [Investigator] Absolutely. 1013 00:49:20,691 --> 00:49:22,608 - [Interviewer] Did he show any signs or symptoms 1014 00:49:22,608 --> 00:49:24,108 of any kind of impairment to you? 1015 00:49:24,108 --> 00:49:26,816 - No, I actually even asked him as well. 1016 00:49:26,816 --> 00:49:29,566 I didn't smell it, I didn't sense anything. 1017 00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:31,608 He was just very upset, very distraught. 1018 00:49:33,025 --> 00:49:35,733 - I most definitely think they should have tested him. 1019 00:49:35,733 --> 00:49:37,483 They tested my son. 1020 00:49:37,483 --> 00:49:40,983 My son didn't have an option whether he got tested or not. 1021 00:49:40,983 --> 00:49:43,150 Why shouldn't have Tony have been tested? 1022 00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:45,025 If there's a fatality, you just do it. 1023 00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:47,816 They basically asked Tony, you know, 1024 00:49:47,816 --> 00:49:48,858 "Did you have any alcohol? 1025 00:49:48,858 --> 00:49:50,900 Did you ever do any drugs tonight?" 1026 00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:51,733 or something like that. 1027 00:49:51,733 --> 00:49:52,566 "Nope? Okay." 1028 00:49:52,566 --> 00:49:54,191 That was good enough for them. 1029 00:49:54,191 --> 00:49:56,941 - We're looking at clothing, we're looking at lighting, 1030 00:49:56,941 --> 00:50:00,233 we're looking for eyewitnesses that were working. 1031 00:50:00,233 --> 00:50:03,316 We're looking for any information now 1032 00:50:03,316 --> 00:50:06,358 that will assist us in this investigation. 1033 00:50:06,358 --> 00:50:08,858 Again, it's less than 16 hours old. 1034 00:50:08,858 --> 00:50:09,775 It's ongoing. 1035 00:50:09,775 --> 00:50:10,941 - [Reporter] Are you looking into the possibility 1036 00:50:10,941 --> 00:50:13,441 that Stewart may have swerved at the last minute, 1037 00:50:13,441 --> 00:50:15,233 deliberately, waiting until the last minute 1038 00:50:15,233 --> 00:50:16,066 to get out of the way? 1039 00:50:16,066 --> 00:50:18,233 - This is an ongoing investigation 1040 00:50:18,233 --> 00:50:21,150 and we are looking at any information 1041 00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:23,108 that's relevant to the crash. 1042 00:50:23,108 --> 00:50:25,650 - We got the sense that night that, 1043 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:27,108 like something wasn't right, 1044 00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:30,775 just the way that Sheriff Povero was talking to us 1045 00:50:30,775 --> 00:50:32,316 and how he didn't want to answer 1046 00:50:32,316 --> 00:50:34,316 some of my questions that I had for him. 1047 00:50:34,316 --> 00:50:38,483 And when I'd ask him direct questions about the case 1048 00:50:38,483 --> 00:50:40,608 and what they were gonna do and stuff, like, 1049 00:50:40,608 --> 00:50:42,233 he literally just like turned away from me 1050 00:50:42,233 --> 00:50:43,608 and like wouldn't even look me in the eye anymore. 1051 00:50:43,608 --> 00:50:45,441 And I thought that was so strange. 1052 00:50:47,733 --> 00:50:50,483 (dramatic music) 1053 00:51:01,233 --> 00:51:04,816 (dramatic music continues) 1054 00:51:15,233 --> 00:51:16,858 - New tonight at 10, the grand jury 1055 00:51:16,858 --> 00:51:19,400 that will determine if NASCAR's Tony Stewart 1056 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,858 will face charges for killing another driver 1057 00:51:21,858 --> 00:51:23,608 met for the first time today. 1058 00:51:23,608 --> 00:51:25,191 - Yes, the charges that 1059 00:51:25,191 --> 00:51:27,775 were submitted to the grand jury for consideration 1060 00:51:27,775 --> 00:51:29,900 were manslaughter in the second degree 1061 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:32,358 and criminally negligent homicide. 1062 00:51:32,358 --> 00:51:35,441 - Drivers are trying to stay focused on what's ahead, 1063 00:51:35,441 --> 00:51:37,441 but they say the prosecutor's pursuit 1064 00:51:37,441 --> 00:51:40,525 to be sure it was all an accident is a setback. 1065 00:51:40,525 --> 00:51:42,566 - He's going through the dickens 1066 00:51:42,566 --> 00:51:44,650 since the whole thing happened, 1067 00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:48,150 and now his fate is in the hands of a jury. 1068 00:51:49,191 --> 00:51:50,525 That's a pretty tough deal. 1069 00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:00,775 - I mean, I've been in a court for, 1070 00:52:00,775 --> 00:52:02,566 you know, speeding tickets, (laughs) you know? 1071 00:52:02,566 --> 00:52:03,400 But, 1072 00:52:04,525 --> 00:52:06,400 I didn't know what to expect. 1073 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,900 I've never even been to that courthouse. 1074 00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:09,858 Then you walk in, 1075 00:52:09,858 --> 00:52:14,358 and there's all your fellow racers, there are a bunch there, 1076 00:52:14,358 --> 00:52:16,900 you know, you got five or six of us that are there. 1077 00:52:17,983 --> 00:52:19,150 They all have lawyers. 1078 00:52:20,358 --> 00:52:21,191 - [Documentarian] But you didn't feel like 1079 00:52:21,191 --> 00:52:22,025 you needed one? 1080 00:52:22,025 --> 00:52:25,358 - I didn't think I needed one until I walked in the door 1081 00:52:25,358 --> 00:52:26,900 and everybody else was lawyered up. 1082 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,483 Then I said, "Well, maybe I shoulda had somebody." 1083 00:52:37,025 --> 00:52:40,525 - What cost him his life was the actions of Tony Stewart. 1084 00:52:40,525 --> 00:52:42,108 Him moving up the track, 1085 00:52:42,108 --> 00:52:45,233 when he was being told to stay low and slow on the track, 1086 00:52:46,066 --> 00:52:48,358 accelerating under a caution, 1087 00:52:48,358 --> 00:52:49,775 sliding his car sideways, 1088 00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:50,816 (indistinct) his tires. 1089 00:52:50,816 --> 00:52:54,233 You know, those are the actions that took my son's life. 1090 00:52:54,233 --> 00:52:57,608 - The difficult part is if it was a road accident, 1091 00:52:57,608 --> 00:53:00,525 you know, everybody in the jury understands. 1092 00:53:00,525 --> 00:53:02,358 They either drive or they have a car 1093 00:53:02,358 --> 00:53:03,900 or they've been in a car. 1094 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:06,650 (dramatic music) 1095 00:53:10,816 --> 00:53:13,608 The people there have, I'd probably put money on it, 1096 00:53:13,608 --> 00:53:15,733 never been to a race, you know, 1097 00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:17,441 never been around a race car. 1098 00:53:17,441 --> 00:53:19,108 They just don't understand. 1099 00:53:19,108 --> 00:53:20,275 They didn't have a breakdown. 1100 00:53:20,275 --> 00:53:22,191 They didn't even have a car there to say, 1101 00:53:22,191 --> 00:53:23,691 "This is what a car looks like. 1102 00:53:23,691 --> 00:53:25,400 And this is, you know, this is stagger, 1103 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,900 this tire's bigger than this tire. 1104 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:27,983 And this is where the throttle is, 1105 00:53:27,983 --> 00:53:29,525 this is where the brake pedal is. 1106 00:53:29,525 --> 00:53:31,691 This motor has 700 horse, you know, 1107 00:53:31,691 --> 00:53:33,858 on a car that weighs 1400 pounds." 1108 00:53:33,858 --> 00:53:35,650 It's difficult to explain to somebody 1109 00:53:35,650 --> 00:53:37,816 that doesn't have a clue. 1110 00:53:38,691 --> 00:53:42,483 - Well, the videos actually did not demonstrate any 1111 00:53:45,108 --> 00:53:47,566 aberrational driving by Tony Stewart 1112 00:53:47,566 --> 00:53:50,275 until the point of impact with Kevin Ward, 1113 00:53:50,275 --> 00:53:53,816 at which point his vehicle veered to the right up the track, 1114 00:53:53,816 --> 00:53:55,108 as a result of the collision. 1115 00:53:55,108 --> 00:53:57,441 Prior to that, his course was pretty straight. 1116 00:53:57,441 --> 00:53:58,983 (motor revs) 1117 00:53:58,983 --> 00:54:00,608 - Some of our lawyers told us, like, 1118 00:54:00,608 --> 00:54:02,066 "Proof is in the video. 1119 00:54:02,066 --> 00:54:04,400 Like, just let them do their job. 1120 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,775 All they have to do is watch the video. 1121 00:54:06,775 --> 00:54:08,066 They can see what happened. 1122 00:54:08,066 --> 00:54:10,358 Like, don't hound them, you know, 1123 00:54:10,358 --> 00:54:11,900 don't bother them all the time, 1124 00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,316 just let them do your job, 1125 00:54:13,316 --> 00:54:14,233 you're gonna be good. 1126 00:54:14,233 --> 00:54:16,566 Just let 'em go ahead and just do the video." 1127 00:54:18,441 --> 00:54:20,275 One of my biggest regrets yet. 1128 00:54:21,566 --> 00:54:23,525 - [Interviewer] If you assume he did not move to the right, 1129 00:54:23,525 --> 00:54:24,983 but continued on the line he was on, 1130 00:54:24,983 --> 00:54:27,483 do you think he would've missed Mr. Ward? 1131 00:54:27,483 --> 00:54:28,358 - Yes. 1132 00:54:28,358 --> 00:54:32,275 - [Interviewer] Can you think of any good reason 1133 00:54:32,275 --> 00:54:35,275 why Mr. Stewart would've turned his tires to the right? 1134 00:54:35,275 --> 00:54:36,691 - No. 1135 00:54:36,691 --> 00:54:38,150 - [Interviewer] Do you think it's common knowledge 1136 00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:39,775 among sprint racers 1137 00:54:39,775 --> 00:54:41,191 that if you 1138 00:54:41,191 --> 00:54:44,191 are moving at caution speeds 1139 00:54:45,066 --> 00:54:46,025 and apply throttle, 1140 00:54:46,025 --> 00:54:48,275 that it's gonna cause the rear right, 1141 00:54:48,275 --> 00:54:49,441 the rear of your car 1142 00:54:50,691 --> 00:54:52,191 to slide out to the right? 1143 00:54:52,191 --> 00:54:53,483 - Yes. 1144 00:54:53,483 --> 00:54:55,525 - [Interviewer] Can you think of a good reason 1145 00:54:55,525 --> 00:54:57,900 why Mr. Stewart would've applied throttle 1146 00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:00,108 right before the impact with Mr. Ward? 1147 00:55:00,108 --> 00:55:04,733 - No. 1148 00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:08,441 - After listening to and questioning all of the witnesses 1149 00:55:08,441 --> 00:55:10,316 and reviewing all of the evidence, 1150 00:55:10,316 --> 00:55:12,858 the grand jury has determined that there is no basis 1151 00:55:12,858 --> 00:55:15,441 to charge Tony Stewart with any crimes. 1152 00:55:15,441 --> 00:55:18,691 His case was, therefore, no billed by the grand jury. 1153 00:55:18,691 --> 00:55:21,275 (gentle music) 1154 00:55:24,608 --> 00:55:26,858 - [Speaker] A grand jury in Ontario County, New York, 1155 00:55:26,858 --> 00:55:30,525 has decided there is no basis for any criminal charges 1156 00:55:30,525 --> 00:55:32,066 relating to Tony Stewart's role 1157 00:55:32,066 --> 00:55:34,816 in the August 9th death of Kevin Ward Jr. 1158 00:55:34,816 --> 00:55:36,650 during a sprint car race. 1159 00:55:36,650 --> 00:55:38,566 The grand jury had met Tuesday 1160 00:55:38,566 --> 00:55:41,608 to hear evidence from District Attorney Michael Tantillo, 1161 00:55:41,608 --> 00:55:44,858 and quickly determined charges would not be necessary. 1162 00:55:44,858 --> 00:55:46,733 Stewart being cleared of any wrongdoing 1163 00:55:46,733 --> 00:55:49,275 is a tremendous boost for the NASCAR community, 1164 00:55:49,275 --> 00:55:51,900 where Stewart has many supporters among drivers, 1165 00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,191 crew members, and their families. 1166 00:55:54,191 --> 00:55:55,483 - I mean, our son is gone. 1167 00:55:56,483 --> 00:55:58,483 We're never gonna see our son again. 1168 00:55:58,483 --> 00:55:59,733 And nobody has, 1169 00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:02,566 Tony has not been held accountable for that at all. 1170 00:56:02,566 --> 00:56:04,316 Not being charged with anything, 1171 00:56:04,316 --> 00:56:06,233 not spending one day in jail, 1172 00:56:06,233 --> 00:56:08,858 which I feel he should be in jail right now. 1173 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,025 I have to live with that every day. 1174 00:56:12,025 --> 00:56:13,525 And that is so hard 1175 00:56:13,525 --> 00:56:17,316 to think that my son's death has gone unaccountable. 1176 00:56:17,316 --> 00:56:20,441 We've gotten no justice for our son. 1177 00:56:20,441 --> 00:56:22,650 - Most people, they lose a family member, 1178 00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:25,400 and you know, they go through the calling hours, 1179 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,316 they go through a funeral, they put 'em in the ground, 1180 00:56:27,316 --> 00:56:29,358 and then, you know, you can start healing 1181 00:56:29,358 --> 00:56:30,858 and you start moving on. 1182 00:56:30,858 --> 00:56:33,066 I feel like my family was never given that. 1183 00:56:38,483 --> 00:56:40,400 - Maureen, startling revelations today. 1184 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,525 Victim Kevin Ward Jr. was high on marijuana 1185 00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:46,733 the night he stepped out of his race car on a live track 1186 00:56:46,733 --> 00:56:49,275 and was struck and killed by Tony Stewart. 1187 00:57:03,108 --> 00:57:05,941 - There is toxicology evidence in the case 1188 00:57:05,941 --> 00:57:07,733 relating to Kevin Ward 1189 00:57:07,733 --> 00:57:10,191 that actually indicated that at the time of operation, 1190 00:57:10,191 --> 00:57:11,900 he was under the influence of marijuana. 1191 00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,025 - I'm not surprised. 1192 00:57:13,025 --> 00:57:15,316 I mean, young kid, high on marijuana. 1193 00:57:15,316 --> 00:57:19,316 Famous, famous person gets off, you know. 1194 00:57:19,316 --> 00:57:21,316 Did they do a blood test on Stewart, too? 1195 00:57:21,316 --> 00:57:23,358 - [Newscaster] Stewart was not tested. 1196 00:57:23,358 --> 00:57:26,108 A drug expert interviewed Stewart the night of the crash 1197 00:57:26,108 --> 00:57:28,608 and determined he was not under the influence 1198 00:57:28,608 --> 00:57:30,358 of drugs or alcohol. 1199 00:57:30,358 --> 00:57:34,400 - I don't think it made any difference, at all. 1200 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,150 But it comes off as, 1201 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:39,525 "Well, he was high and that's why he got outta the car." 1202 00:57:39,525 --> 00:57:42,191 No, he got outta the car cause he was pissed off. 1203 00:57:42,191 --> 00:57:43,608 You know. 1204 00:57:43,608 --> 00:57:45,233 It had nothing to do with it. 1205 00:57:45,233 --> 00:57:48,150 - When they seen the fact that Kevin had THC in his system, 1206 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:50,066 that was their ticket. 1207 00:57:50,066 --> 00:57:52,066 It was Tony's ticket to freedom. 1208 00:57:52,066 --> 00:57:56,566 Like, that was the means, what they needed to use 1209 00:57:56,566 --> 00:57:57,983 to give them justification 1210 00:57:57,983 --> 00:58:01,066 or a motive to be able to clear Tony. 1211 00:58:01,066 --> 00:58:02,566 - [Narrator] That THC was present 1212 00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:06,275 during his postmortem autopsy lab work is indisputable. 1213 00:58:06,275 --> 00:58:09,775 But the questions that cannot be answered by science 1214 00:58:09,775 --> 00:58:11,566 are whether Kevin Ward Jr. 1215 00:58:11,566 --> 00:58:14,275 was impaired by his marijuana use, 1216 00:58:14,275 --> 00:58:17,733 and how long it had been since he last used the drug. 1217 00:58:19,316 --> 00:58:20,900 - No way. 1218 00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:25,816 No way did he have, had been smoking marijuana. 1219 00:58:25,816 --> 00:58:29,941 I'm saying, well, Friday morning we left to go to Canada, 1220 00:58:29,941 --> 00:58:32,108 you know, eight o'clock in the morning. 1221 00:58:32,108 --> 00:58:33,316 So, 1222 00:58:33,316 --> 00:58:36,025 I have no idea when he'd had to smoke 1223 00:58:36,025 --> 00:58:38,191 the five hours before he got in that car. 1224 00:58:38,191 --> 00:58:39,650 There's no way possible. 1225 00:58:52,358 --> 00:58:54,233 - All right, my name's Michael Holland. 1226 00:58:54,233 --> 00:58:56,233 I'm a medical toxicologist 1227 00:58:56,233 --> 00:58:58,608 and occupational medicine physician. 1228 00:58:58,608 --> 00:59:02,816 I do a lot of investigations for 1229 00:59:02,816 --> 00:59:05,191 forensic toxicology is one of my special interests, 1230 00:59:05,191 --> 00:59:06,483 and postmortem is, 1231 00:59:06,483 --> 00:59:10,400 most of forensic toxicology is postmortem toxicology. 1232 00:59:12,525 --> 00:59:15,066 The carboxy THC, the one that's 78, 1233 00:59:15,066 --> 00:59:17,358 that's an inactive metabolite. 1234 00:59:17,358 --> 00:59:20,191 That can be 2,000 and not impairing. 1235 00:59:20,191 --> 00:59:21,566 It's not an impairing drug. 1236 00:59:23,066 --> 00:59:25,941 Well, you know, a living person at 13.1 1237 00:59:25,941 --> 00:59:27,691 would exhibit all these different impairment things, 1238 00:59:27,691 --> 00:59:29,691 and you would see all these different things. 1239 00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:34,108 You can't say that from a postmortem central blood specimen. 1240 00:59:34,108 --> 00:59:34,941 You just can't. 1241 00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:38,358 You know, and from aortic blood, I can almost guarantee you 1242 00:59:38,358 --> 00:59:40,941 that that's not what his antemortem blood level was. 1243 00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:43,941 Almost assuredly it would be less, 1244 00:59:43,941 --> 00:59:46,525 because that's a long postmortem interval 1245 00:59:46,525 --> 00:59:47,775 and it's from central blood, 1246 00:59:47,775 --> 00:59:50,900 and we know it exhibits postmortem redistribution. 1247 00:59:52,191 --> 00:59:54,483 - The levels that were determined 1248 00:59:54,483 --> 00:59:57,483 were enough to impair judgment, yes. 1249 00:59:57,483 --> 01:00:00,316 - [Announcer] The 28, going after Kevin Ward's number 13 1250 01:00:00,316 --> 01:00:01,858 off the turn, 1251 01:00:01,858 --> 01:00:03,691 as Ward able to keep the position, 1252 01:00:03,691 --> 01:00:05,691 as Ward trying to reel in 1253 01:00:05,691 --> 01:00:09,316 the Paul Kinney number 19K, as Jason Barney- 1254 01:00:09,316 --> 01:00:10,941 - It's hard for me to imagine 1255 01:00:10,941 --> 01:00:14,066 someone who's acutely high on marijuana 1256 01:00:14,066 --> 01:00:18,441 to be able to, A, negotiate that kind of a scenario, 1257 01:00:18,441 --> 01:00:20,566 and drive that fast and safely do it; 1258 01:00:20,566 --> 01:00:22,525 and B, even making that decision 1259 01:00:22,525 --> 01:00:25,566 that it would be safe to do that. 1260 01:00:25,566 --> 01:00:28,858 You know, "I'm gonna go get high." 1261 01:00:28,858 --> 01:00:30,608 - [Announcer] The 13 of Kevin Ward 1262 01:00:30,608 --> 01:00:33,525 holding on to position number six, Jeff Cook is seventh. 1263 01:00:33,525 --> 01:00:35,191 - Those levels in your system 1264 01:00:35,191 --> 01:00:39,566 consistently continue to rise after someone passes. 1265 01:00:39,566 --> 01:00:43,733 So the fact that Kevin might have had THC in his system, 1266 01:00:43,733 --> 01:00:45,733 the fact that it could have been, you know, 1267 01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:47,816 a low level where it wouldn't have showed impairment, 1268 01:00:47,816 --> 01:00:50,775 or, I'm not even sure what they would consider impairment, 1269 01:00:50,775 --> 01:00:54,233 but they waited 39 hours to test his blood for that? 1270 01:00:54,233 --> 01:00:56,900 - And then we were told it's a matter of how the body's laid 1271 01:00:56,900 --> 01:00:58,275 and where they draw the blood from. 1272 01:00:58,275 --> 01:00:59,566 - [Chris Halsne] You don't think justice has been served? 1273 01:00:59,566 --> 01:01:00,816 - Not at all. 1274 01:01:00,816 --> 01:01:02,566 Not at all. 1275 01:01:02,566 --> 01:01:06,191 I ask myself, "Why?" every day. 1276 01:01:06,191 --> 01:01:08,358 I do, I mean is it just because it's who he is? 1277 01:01:08,358 --> 01:01:12,275 I mean, why didn't they charge him with one single thing? 1278 01:01:12,275 --> 01:01:15,191 - And that was the reason the civil suit come about. 1279 01:01:15,191 --> 01:01:18,775 You know, civil suits are about money. 1280 01:01:18,775 --> 01:01:19,941 We told 'em from day one, 1281 01:01:19,941 --> 01:01:22,608 we don't want 10 cents of Tony Stewart's money. 1282 01:01:22,608 --> 01:01:25,483 We don't need 10 cents of Tony Stewart's money. 1283 01:01:26,316 --> 01:01:29,025 We just wanted answers to what happened, 1284 01:01:29,025 --> 01:01:29,983 and you know, 1285 01:01:31,441 --> 01:01:32,650 it may sound mean, but, 1286 01:01:33,483 --> 01:01:36,233 put him through some of what we went through, you know. 1287 01:01:38,941 --> 01:01:41,441 (quiet music) 1288 01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:58,400 (tense music) 1289 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,816 - Right now, in the last 30 minutes, 1290 01:02:03,816 --> 01:02:06,066 we've learned that NASCAR driver Tony Stewart 1291 01:02:06,066 --> 01:02:09,150 is being sued by the family of Kevin Ward Jr. 1292 01:02:09,150 --> 01:02:11,858 for a deadly 2014 dirt track accident. 1293 01:02:11,858 --> 01:02:14,525 (serious music) 1294 01:02:17,066 --> 01:02:18,775 - I am Richard Ziernicki. 1295 01:02:18,775 --> 01:02:21,691 I am President and CEO of Knott Laboratory, 1296 01:02:21,691 --> 01:02:26,066 consulting engineering firm in Denver, Colorado. 1297 01:02:26,066 --> 01:02:30,983 I have been doing this type of work about 35 years. 1298 01:02:30,983 --> 01:02:34,733 That means this investigation of motor vehicle accidents 1299 01:02:34,733 --> 01:02:36,441 and industrial accidents. 1300 01:02:36,441 --> 01:02:41,441 - The beauty of solving this project with videogrammetry 1301 01:02:41,441 --> 01:02:43,400 is that we get to change our perspective. 1302 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,358 We get to see this accident from a different vantage point. 1303 01:02:46,358 --> 01:02:48,233 We actually have the video. 1304 01:02:48,233 --> 01:02:50,150 - [Colleague] It's layer one. 1305 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:51,650 - As layer one, yes. 1306 01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:52,525 This is our video. 1307 01:02:52,525 --> 01:02:54,025 So if you were to watch the video, 1308 01:02:54,025 --> 01:02:56,650 you're gonna see it's all over the place. 1309 01:02:56,650 --> 01:02:58,525 And we have to be able to calibrate 1310 01:02:58,525 --> 01:03:02,316 and analyze this video footage for each video frame, 1311 01:03:02,316 --> 01:03:07,150 because it's such a rapid succession of changing 1312 01:03:07,150 --> 01:03:10,066 video and camera properties. 1313 01:03:10,066 --> 01:03:12,650 And we need to be able to solve 1314 01:03:12,650 --> 01:03:16,525 for all those multiple different vantage points. 1315 01:03:17,691 --> 01:03:20,983 - There's nothing more than just series of images. 1316 01:03:22,191 --> 01:03:24,191 All the camera we deal with, 1317 01:03:25,316 --> 01:03:28,650 currently they are about 30 frames per second. 1318 01:03:28,650 --> 01:03:31,191 Those are a series of images, 1319 01:03:31,191 --> 01:03:33,025 still images, okay? 1320 01:03:33,025 --> 01:03:35,483 So the video, what you see, 1321 01:03:35,483 --> 01:03:38,691 we fooling your eye by telling you something is moving. 1322 01:03:38,691 --> 01:03:39,525 Nothing is moving. 1323 01:03:39,525 --> 01:03:40,358 Series of videos. 1324 01:03:40,358 --> 01:03:42,441 Your eye take this as a motion, 1325 01:03:42,441 --> 01:03:45,358 but there is no motion actual on those images. 1326 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,608 And to run the program, it took like four or five minutes. 1327 01:03:50,608 --> 01:03:53,066 Now it takes a couple seconds. 1328 01:03:53,066 --> 01:03:55,316 Boom, done. The same. 1329 01:03:55,316 --> 01:03:59,858 So speed of the computers change so dramatically. 1330 01:03:59,858 --> 01:04:02,608 - Every new case is a new challenge, 1331 01:04:02,608 --> 01:04:04,025 and it's like putting a puzzle together. 1332 01:04:04,025 --> 01:04:06,066 So that's why I enjoy it. 1333 01:04:07,066 --> 01:04:07,983 There were 1334 01:04:09,316 --> 01:04:10,400 spectators 1335 01:04:11,275 --> 01:04:12,775 filming this. 1336 01:04:12,775 --> 01:04:15,650 There was a track camera filming this. 1337 01:04:15,650 --> 01:04:19,691 There were GoPro cameras, or the like, 1338 01:04:19,691 --> 01:04:24,275 in at least several of the vehicles on the track. 1339 01:04:24,275 --> 01:04:26,733 So this was all being recorded, 1340 01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:27,775 and, 1341 01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:30,650 once it happened, 1342 01:04:30,650 --> 01:04:33,566 it helped to untangle the videos, 1343 01:04:33,566 --> 01:04:36,441 helped untangle what actually occurred. 1344 01:04:36,441 --> 01:04:38,275 - The reason we are hired, 1345 01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:41,983 because there was no definite answer 1346 01:04:41,983 --> 01:04:45,566 what really happened on scientific level. 1347 01:04:45,566 --> 01:04:48,858 We have deposition, we have statement, we have video. 1348 01:04:48,858 --> 01:04:49,816 But the video, 1349 01:04:49,816 --> 01:04:52,108 you can look on the video all your life 1350 01:04:52,108 --> 01:04:56,191 and you cannot comprehend the depth of the video, 1351 01:04:56,191 --> 01:04:58,233 where the things are in relation, 1352 01:04:58,233 --> 01:04:59,275 depth in the video. 1353 01:04:59,275 --> 01:05:00,733 Because the nature of human eye, 1354 01:05:00,733 --> 01:05:04,275 we don't have ability to read depth on a video. 1355 01:05:04,275 --> 01:05:05,358 How far they are apart. 1356 01:05:05,358 --> 01:05:09,066 Are they two inches apart or five inches apart? 1357 01:05:09,066 --> 01:05:12,608 Your body, your brain, your eye cannot figure out that. 1358 01:05:12,608 --> 01:05:15,358 We need to digest that from that video. 1359 01:05:15,358 --> 01:05:19,066 And in combining this with the 3D scanning, 1360 01:05:19,066 --> 01:05:20,483 now we can do that. 1361 01:05:20,483 --> 01:05:21,441 - In this case, I think we had 1362 01:05:21,441 --> 01:05:24,441 hundreds of millions of data points based on our laser scan. 1363 01:05:24,441 --> 01:05:27,108 We understand exactly where these points in space are, 1364 01:05:27,108 --> 01:05:30,108 and then when we have a vehicle moving through that space, 1365 01:05:30,108 --> 01:05:32,191 we know what its vehicle dynamics are, 1366 01:05:32,191 --> 01:05:34,233 we know where its position in space is, 1367 01:05:34,233 --> 01:05:36,441 and we can quite accurately tell 1368 01:05:36,441 --> 01:05:41,066 exactly the location of the vehicle and how it's behaving. 1369 01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:42,983 - And that's the beauty of physics, right? 1370 01:05:42,983 --> 01:05:45,025 You can break the laws of man, 1371 01:05:45,025 --> 01:05:47,816 but you can't break the laws of physics. 1372 01:05:47,816 --> 01:05:48,816 Okay. 1373 01:05:48,816 --> 01:05:49,858 And, 1374 01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:52,941 by golly, 1375 01:05:52,941 --> 01:05:54,983 Tony Stewart stepped on his throttle. 1376 01:05:56,066 --> 01:05:57,608 When he applied throttle, 1377 01:05:57,608 --> 01:06:00,858 the car rotated and kicked the right end, 1378 01:06:00,858 --> 01:06:05,400 okay, so the passenger side rear of the car out. 1379 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,816 And what that did 1380 01:06:06,816 --> 01:06:11,816 is it kicked it right into where Kevin Ward was standing. 1381 01:06:12,566 --> 01:06:14,816 And the right rear wheel, 1382 01:06:16,066 --> 01:06:17,983 just, it's very gummy, 1383 01:06:17,983 --> 01:06:22,066 it's like, sort of like a spongy-type material. 1384 01:06:22,066 --> 01:06:25,066 It probably just, you know, sucked Kevin Ward right into it. 1385 01:06:25,066 --> 01:06:28,066 And that was, unfortunately, the end for Kevin Ward. 1386 01:06:30,858 --> 01:06:32,691 - Each frame we can figure out 1387 01:06:32,691 --> 01:06:35,358 acceleration or deceleration of the vehicle. 1388 01:06:35,358 --> 01:06:36,358 And we did. 1389 01:06:36,358 --> 01:06:38,608 And each frame we can figure out 1390 01:06:38,608 --> 01:06:42,441 your angle or fishtailing of the vehicle, 1391 01:06:42,441 --> 01:06:44,566 and quantify that, how many degree. 1392 01:06:44,566 --> 01:06:46,275 Not just roughly left or right. 1393 01:06:46,275 --> 01:06:47,358 No, specifically. 1394 01:06:47,358 --> 01:06:50,025 That was the beauty of that analysis. 1395 01:06:50,025 --> 01:06:52,566 It's not the guess work, it's not the judgment. 1396 01:06:52,566 --> 01:06:54,566 There is not no judgment whatsoever. 1397 01:06:54,566 --> 01:06:56,733 It is what that video shows. 1398 01:06:58,191 --> 01:07:02,608 We found not what he did, but we found what the car did. 1399 01:07:03,441 --> 01:07:06,441 Okay? Difference, huge difference. 1400 01:07:06,441 --> 01:07:08,983 And we can potentially extrapolate that 1401 01:07:08,983 --> 01:07:11,233 because the car didn't do anything 1402 01:07:11,233 --> 01:07:13,275 unless you step on the gas, right? 1403 01:07:13,275 --> 01:07:15,733 So if you step on the gas, the car will respond. 1404 01:07:15,733 --> 01:07:18,733 But we analyzed not the human behavior, 1405 01:07:18,733 --> 01:07:21,233 we analyzed the car response. 1406 01:07:21,233 --> 01:07:23,691 But the car responded to human action, 1407 01:07:23,691 --> 01:07:24,525 human 1408 01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:29,066 applying steering angle, applying this, applying that. 1409 01:07:29,066 --> 01:07:32,233 So the car did accelerate. 1410 01:07:32,233 --> 01:07:34,900 There is no base or reason for car to accelerate 1411 01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:36,441 unless you step on the gas. 1412 01:07:36,441 --> 01:07:40,191 So yes, driver forced that car to accelerate. 1413 01:07:40,191 --> 01:07:42,983 - We tracked every single race car that we could 1414 01:07:42,983 --> 01:07:45,983 that went by Kevin Ward prior to impact, 1415 01:07:45,983 --> 01:07:48,025 so that we could see what their path was, 1416 01:07:48,025 --> 01:07:49,025 see what their speeds were, 1417 01:07:49,025 --> 01:07:51,691 how were they reacting to this hazard 1418 01:07:51,691 --> 01:07:53,191 that was in the racetrack. 1419 01:07:54,233 --> 01:07:56,858 And what we found is that these other cars 1420 01:07:56,858 --> 01:07:59,650 were, in fact, following caution procedures 1421 01:07:59,650 --> 01:08:01,650 of staying low on the track, 1422 01:08:01,650 --> 01:08:05,525 and they were avoiding the area where Kevin Ward was. 1423 01:08:06,733 --> 01:08:08,566 In the video that you will see, 1424 01:08:08,566 --> 01:08:11,441 there are paths that demonstrate 1425 01:08:11,441 --> 01:08:12,983 the paths of each of those vehicles 1426 01:08:12,983 --> 01:08:15,566 that went by Kevin Ward prior to the accident. 1427 01:08:15,566 --> 01:08:17,358 Kevin Ward never stepped 1428 01:08:17,358 --> 01:08:19,524 beyond the path of those six vehicles. 1429 01:08:19,524 --> 01:08:22,399 He never got in their way, so to speak. 1430 01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:23,233 So, 1431 01:08:24,358 --> 01:08:26,566 it isn't until Tony Stewart comes by, 1432 01:08:26,566 --> 01:08:29,941 you see all these six paths, right? 1433 01:08:29,941 --> 01:08:33,316 And then Tony Stewart makes a diagonal line 1434 01:08:33,316 --> 01:08:35,899 straight through those other paths, 1435 01:08:35,899 --> 01:08:38,816 in the direction of Kevin Ward. 1436 01:08:38,816 --> 01:08:39,858 - [Documentarian] When you just look, 1437 01:08:39,858 --> 01:08:41,358 again, I'm talkin' YouTube, 1438 01:08:41,358 --> 01:08:43,149 you're just eyeballing this thing, 1439 01:08:43,149 --> 01:08:46,066 it looks like Mr. Ward is moving down the track 1440 01:08:46,066 --> 01:08:50,858 and he kind of steps into Tony Stewart's path. 1441 01:08:50,858 --> 01:08:54,066 You found that didn't, 1442 01:08:54,066 --> 01:08:55,566 that isn't true. 1443 01:08:55,566 --> 01:08:56,399 - That's not true. 1444 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:58,066 So again, based on the videos, 1445 01:08:58,066 --> 01:09:00,316 and based on the videogrammetry, 1446 01:09:00,316 --> 01:09:02,316 Kevin Ward did come down the track 1447 01:09:02,316 --> 01:09:04,483 from the location that his car was at, 1448 01:09:04,483 --> 01:09:06,233 but he stopped at a certain line. 1449 01:09:06,233 --> 01:09:11,066 He didn't come very close to the previous six cars, 1450 01:09:11,066 --> 01:09:11,983 low on the track. 1451 01:09:11,983 --> 01:09:13,816 He didn't walk all the way down the track. 1452 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:16,441 He stayed relatively high, okay. 1453 01:09:16,441 --> 01:09:19,774 And he wasn't coming down into the path of Tony Stewart. 1454 01:09:19,774 --> 01:09:22,524 Again, should Kevin Ward have been out of his car? 1455 01:09:22,524 --> 01:09:23,983 No, he should not have. 1456 01:09:23,983 --> 01:09:28,316 But, after he got out of his car, okay, 1457 01:09:28,316 --> 01:09:30,566 he stayed rather high in the track. 1458 01:09:30,566 --> 01:09:33,024 And if it weren't for Tony Stewart, 1459 01:09:34,191 --> 01:09:36,816 this incident wouldn't have occurred. 1460 01:09:38,024 --> 01:09:40,316 - He stopped, and his upper body 1461 01:09:40,316 --> 01:09:43,483 moved away from Tony Stewart. 1462 01:09:43,483 --> 01:09:46,274 He did not make a move into the vehicle. 1463 01:09:47,774 --> 01:09:51,066 He kept walking, then he stood 1464 01:09:51,066 --> 01:09:54,024 for a split second before impact 1465 01:09:54,024 --> 01:09:57,525 and upper body, not leg, upper body move away from car 1466 01:09:57,525 --> 01:09:58,441 when he was hit. 1467 01:09:58,441 --> 01:10:01,566 - It's not until he accelerates and hits the throttle 1468 01:10:01,566 --> 01:10:04,691 that his vehicle would, you know, act accordingly. 1469 01:10:04,691 --> 01:10:06,025 You know, if you're gonna hit the throttle 1470 01:10:06,025 --> 01:10:08,483 in a lightweight, high-horsepower vehicle, 1471 01:10:08,483 --> 01:10:10,025 it's gonna kick the rear end out 1472 01:10:10,025 --> 01:10:11,191 and it's gonna throw up dirt 1473 01:10:11,191 --> 01:10:13,858 and it's gonna do all the things that a car would do 1474 01:10:13,858 --> 01:10:15,566 if you're gonna stone a competitor. 1475 01:10:15,566 --> 01:10:18,316 But when you're doing that type of maneuver, 1476 01:10:18,316 --> 01:10:20,691 the vehicle's also gonna have a tendency to drift. 1477 01:10:20,691 --> 01:10:21,525 And 1478 01:10:21,525 --> 01:10:23,066 the drifting 1479 01:10:23,941 --> 01:10:27,025 would actually cause the vehicle to go up the track. 1480 01:10:28,275 --> 01:10:30,775 - I don't believe Tony Stewart was truthful 1481 01:10:30,775 --> 01:10:33,983 in answering why he applied his throttle. 1482 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,983 (somber music) 1483 01:10:44,358 --> 01:10:45,941 - Well, 1484 01:10:45,941 --> 01:10:48,025 it happens in racing, 1485 01:10:48,025 --> 01:10:50,608 but normally people don't get killed. 1486 01:10:50,608 --> 01:10:51,525 And 1487 01:10:51,525 --> 01:10:53,566 I do think 1488 01:10:53,566 --> 01:10:55,733 that it's absurd 1489 01:10:55,733 --> 01:10:58,150 to think that it was, 1490 01:10:58,150 --> 01:10:59,900 that it was intentional. 1491 01:11:00,775 --> 01:11:01,608 I mean, 1492 01:11:05,941 --> 01:11:09,691 it would be no more, say, 1493 01:11:09,691 --> 01:11:11,775 uncommon than say, 1494 01:11:13,191 --> 01:11:15,233 a horse-collar tackle in football, 1495 01:11:15,233 --> 01:11:17,608 or a beanball in baseball, 1496 01:11:17,608 --> 01:11:20,816 or a grabbing the face mask, you know? 1497 01:11:20,816 --> 01:11:25,358 I mean, it's something, it's sort of a, I mean. 1498 01:11:27,816 --> 01:11:31,275 There's an implication in the word stoning 1499 01:11:32,483 --> 01:11:37,483 that sounds more sinister than it is, you know. 1500 01:11:37,983 --> 01:11:39,900 - [Interviewer] "He left his lane and hit the gas 1501 01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:42,025 and to me it just like, it looks like it was intentional." 1502 01:11:42,025 --> 01:11:43,941 Do you want to modify that sentence? 1503 01:11:43,941 --> 01:11:47,066 - Well, I don't know if I would put intentional there again, 1504 01:11:47,066 --> 01:11:50,275 not knowing how those turn. 1505 01:11:50,275 --> 01:11:54,566 And one of the things that we've seen in the past 1506 01:11:54,566 --> 01:11:56,650 at Canandaigua Motor Speedway 1507 01:11:56,650 --> 01:11:59,775 is they like to throw dirt in people's face. 1508 01:12:00,691 --> 01:12:01,525 All right? 1509 01:12:03,025 --> 01:12:04,191 That's intentional. 1510 01:12:06,733 --> 01:12:09,400 Hitting somebody, maybe not so intentional. 1511 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,233 I don't know. 1512 01:12:11,150 --> 01:12:14,775 But I've seen people throw dirt in other people's faces. 1513 01:12:14,775 --> 01:12:16,108 - [Interviewer] That seems like a bad idea to do that. 1514 01:12:16,108 --> 01:12:17,150 - Very bad idea. 1515 01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:18,650 Bad idea getting out of the car, 1516 01:12:18,650 --> 01:12:20,775 bad idea doing that as well. 1517 01:12:20,775 --> 01:12:22,608 Two wrongs don't ever make a right. 1518 01:12:22,608 --> 01:12:24,025 - We've maintained this from day one. 1519 01:12:24,025 --> 01:12:24,900 We don't think Tony 1520 01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:27,941 intentionally meant to hit and kill Kevin. 1521 01:12:27,941 --> 01:12:29,441 - No, absolutely not. - We honestly feel 1522 01:12:29,441 --> 01:12:31,941 that he just wanted to intimidate him. 1523 01:12:31,941 --> 01:12:34,608 He was upset with him. 1524 01:12:34,608 --> 01:12:36,150 Whatever his motive was. 1525 01:12:36,150 --> 01:12:38,358 Like, you know, put a show on for people. 1526 01:12:38,358 --> 01:12:40,525 I don't know what Tony's motives were. 1527 01:12:40,525 --> 01:12:42,775 But I strongly feel that he went up the track 1528 01:12:43,608 --> 01:12:45,400 and tried to throw dirt on my son. 1529 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,358 I don't think he meant to hit him and kill him, 1530 01:12:48,358 --> 01:12:50,150 but that's what happened. 1531 01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:52,358 - [Interviewer] You didn't hit Kevin Ward Jr. on purpose? 1532 01:12:52,358 --> 01:12:54,108 - Absolutely not. 1533 01:12:54,108 --> 01:12:56,608 - [Interviewer] You didn't try to slide a little bit, 1534 01:12:56,608 --> 01:12:57,483 throw mud on him? 1535 01:12:58,733 --> 01:13:00,108 - You can't throw mud on somebody 1536 01:13:00,108 --> 01:13:01,816 when you haven't got to him. 1537 01:13:01,816 --> 01:13:03,858 The mud from the tire would go behind you, 1538 01:13:03,858 --> 01:13:05,275 so you can't throw mud forward. 1539 01:13:05,275 --> 01:13:06,691 It would throw it backwards. 1540 01:13:06,691 --> 01:13:09,150 And there wasn't any mud to throw in the first place. 1541 01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:11,275 - [Interviewer] So your answer to my question 1542 01:13:11,275 --> 01:13:12,108 is no, you didn't do that. 1543 01:13:12,108 --> 01:13:12,941 - No, not at all. 1544 01:13:12,941 --> 01:13:13,775 - [Interviewer] All right. 1545 01:13:13,775 --> 01:13:15,525 Are you aware that sprint car racers do that sometimes, 1546 01:13:15,525 --> 01:13:16,608 or have done it? 1547 01:13:16,608 --> 01:13:17,441 - Yeah. 1548 01:13:17,441 --> 01:13:18,275 - [Interviewer] And that's, you agree, 1549 01:13:18,275 --> 01:13:20,441 that's a terrible idea, right? 1550 01:13:21,441 --> 01:13:24,816 - I've been around sprint car racing a long time. 1551 01:13:24,816 --> 01:13:26,900 It's part of the sport. 1552 01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:28,316 - [Interviewer] Right, but it's a bad idea, 1553 01:13:28,316 --> 01:13:30,525 even though it's part of the sport. 1554 01:13:30,525 --> 01:13:32,316 - I've never seen anybody get hurt 1555 01:13:32,316 --> 01:13:33,733 by throwing mud at somebody. 1556 01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:37,566 - We live in a society 1557 01:13:38,566 --> 01:13:40,941 where people constantly wring their hands 1558 01:13:40,941 --> 01:13:44,983 and they say, "He coulda killed somebody!" 1559 01:13:44,983 --> 01:13:47,191 Or, 1560 01:13:47,191 --> 01:13:50,483 you know, it's like, "Don't shoot that BB gun. 1561 01:13:50,483 --> 01:13:53,066 You might put somebody's eyes out!" 1562 01:13:53,066 --> 01:13:55,733 Well, the great majority of people that shoot BB guns 1563 01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:58,233 don't put somebody's eyes out. 1564 01:13:58,233 --> 01:13:59,858 But sometimes it happens. 1565 01:13:59,858 --> 01:14:01,400 - I wasn't trying to slide anywhere. 1566 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,941 I was trying to drive underneath him, 1567 01:14:03,941 --> 01:14:05,025 and get away from him. 1568 01:14:06,566 --> 01:14:08,400 - [Interviewer] I'm just talking about in general. 1569 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,275 You wouldn't wanna slide your car around or near someone, 1570 01:14:11,275 --> 01:14:13,400 because you have less control over your car on a slide 1571 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,150 than you do when you're just driving it, right? 1572 01:14:15,150 --> 01:14:15,983 - Yes. 1573 01:14:15,983 --> 01:14:17,025 - [Interviewer] That would increase the risk 1574 01:14:17,025 --> 01:14:18,691 that you might hit somebody, right? 1575 01:14:18,691 --> 01:14:19,525 - Yes. 1576 01:14:19,525 --> 01:14:22,066 - [Interviewer] So that's a terrible idea, right? 1577 01:14:22,066 --> 01:14:22,941 - Correct. 1578 01:14:22,941 --> 01:14:24,441 - [Interviewer] And your testimony under oath 1579 01:14:24,441 --> 01:14:25,775 was you were not gonna do that- 1580 01:14:25,775 --> 01:14:26,733 - I didn't say- 1581 01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:27,608 - [Interviewer] to Kevin Ward Jr. 1582 01:14:27,608 --> 01:14:29,816 - I was not trying to slide at him, no. 1583 01:14:29,816 --> 01:14:31,066 - [Interviewer] Nor throw mud on him. 1584 01:14:31,066 --> 01:14:31,900 - No. 1585 01:14:31,900 --> 01:14:34,025 - [Interviewer] All right. 1586 01:14:34,025 --> 01:14:37,316 - So Tony Stewart obviously thinks he did something else 1587 01:14:37,341 --> 01:14:38,550 than what we found. 1588 01:14:39,691 --> 01:14:43,066 And what's interesting is that is Tony Stewart's reality. 1589 01:14:43,066 --> 01:14:45,025 That's what he believes that he did. 1590 01:14:45,025 --> 01:14:47,566 If they say to stay low, you stay low. 1591 01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:50,358 Okay, you don't go high. 1592 01:14:50,358 --> 01:14:51,441 And 1593 01:14:51,441 --> 01:14:52,275 I don't, 1594 01:14:52,275 --> 01:14:53,483 I'm not a mind reader. 1595 01:14:53,483 --> 01:14:54,858 I don't know what he was thinking. 1596 01:14:54,858 --> 01:14:57,900 But I can talk about the physics in what happened. 1597 01:14:58,733 --> 01:15:02,358 And what happened was he not only went high, 1598 01:15:02,358 --> 01:15:06,275 but once he got high and got close to where Kevin Ward was, 1599 01:15:06,275 --> 01:15:09,066 he decided to step on his throttle. 1600 01:15:09,066 --> 01:15:13,191 - You can't hold the police harmless in this case 1601 01:15:13,191 --> 01:15:14,441 because 1602 01:15:14,441 --> 01:15:15,858 there are 1603 01:15:15,858 --> 01:15:19,275 officers that have the same laser scanners that we have 1604 01:15:19,275 --> 01:15:22,691 that are accident reconstructionists. 1605 01:15:22,691 --> 01:15:24,691 We've had several cases at Knott Laboratory 1606 01:15:24,691 --> 01:15:26,150 where we take the police data 1607 01:15:26,150 --> 01:15:28,400 and we use it the way it should be used, 1608 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,858 with videogrammetry. 1609 01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:32,525 And I don't think that in this case, 1610 01:15:32,525 --> 01:15:34,066 you just let somebody off the hook 1611 01:15:34,066 --> 01:15:37,941 'cause you're not technically able to analyze the data 1612 01:15:37,941 --> 01:15:40,108 that you could collect. 1613 01:15:40,108 --> 01:15:42,900 So, I don't think there was enough investigation done 1614 01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:43,816 on their part. 1615 01:15:43,816 --> 01:15:45,483 I don't think that, a lot of times, 1616 01:15:45,483 --> 01:15:47,650 that they put forth the effort they need to 1617 01:15:48,733 --> 01:15:50,066 for justice to be served. 1618 01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:52,900 A great question would be, to that grand jury would be, 1619 01:15:54,150 --> 01:15:57,025 show 'em the paths that the vehicles took. 1620 01:15:57,025 --> 01:15:59,066 There's six cars that passed Kevin Ward 1621 01:15:59,066 --> 01:16:00,858 without impacting him. 1622 01:16:00,858 --> 01:16:03,566 Show 'em the path that Tony Stewart took 1623 01:16:03,566 --> 01:16:05,358 prior to the accident, 1624 01:16:05,358 --> 01:16:07,233 and see if that would change their opinion 1625 01:16:07,233 --> 01:16:09,941 of whether there was any intent, 1626 01:16:09,941 --> 01:16:12,775 or any harmful intent in this case, 1627 01:16:12,775 --> 01:16:14,816 that would've changed their opinion 1628 01:16:14,816 --> 01:16:16,150 that a crime was committed. 1629 01:16:17,441 --> 01:16:19,733 - Do you think that if a grand jury or the DA 1630 01:16:19,733 --> 01:16:21,733 would independently look at that information, 1631 01:16:21,733 --> 01:16:24,816 that it might have made a different determination that day? 1632 01:16:24,816 --> 01:16:25,816 - Oh my God, yes. 1633 01:16:25,816 --> 01:16:26,733 I think that would be. 1634 01:16:26,733 --> 01:16:28,400 - I would sure hope that would. 1635 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,316 - It's beyond me that we can have 1636 01:16:31,316 --> 01:16:34,108 a tape forensically analyzed out in Albany, 1637 01:16:35,233 --> 01:16:37,691 and that tape was the one that they used 1638 01:16:37,691 --> 01:16:40,233 to supposedly clear Tony, 1639 01:16:40,233 --> 01:16:44,483 to clear Tony without any wrongdoing whatsoever. 1640 01:16:44,483 --> 01:16:47,566 But yet, in our case, we have it forensically analyzed 1641 01:16:47,566 --> 01:16:49,358 and it's completely the opposite. 1642 01:16:50,191 --> 01:16:53,400 So, like, how does that happen? 1643 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,275 - Oh, there's definitely wounds, you know. 1644 01:16:56,275 --> 01:16:58,983 And I think even what was kind of weird 1645 01:16:58,983 --> 01:17:00,691 is the perception of the whole thing 1646 01:17:00,691 --> 01:17:02,858 started out one direction, 1647 01:17:02,858 --> 01:17:04,858 and then just kind of completely flipped 1648 01:17:04,858 --> 01:17:06,275 the other direction. 1649 01:17:06,275 --> 01:17:11,025 I think at first, it was hands down it was Tony's fault. 1650 01:17:11,025 --> 01:17:11,858 And then, 1651 01:17:13,358 --> 01:17:16,400 as the whole investigation started going on, 1652 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,483 everything was kind of like 1653 01:17:17,483 --> 01:17:19,316 moving towards the other direction. 1654 01:17:19,316 --> 01:17:21,316 And at the end of it, I think 100%, 1655 01:17:21,316 --> 01:17:23,816 it was completely Kevin Ward's fault. 1656 01:17:23,816 --> 01:17:26,691 And I don't think the original was the right way 1657 01:17:26,691 --> 01:17:28,650 and I don't think the end was the right way. 1658 01:17:28,650 --> 01:17:30,650 There's a lot of gray here. 1659 01:17:30,650 --> 01:17:33,483 - Like we wanted him held accountable. 1660 01:17:33,483 --> 01:17:36,900 And you know, if you do kill somebody, 1661 01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:38,733 even if it wasn't intent, 1662 01:17:38,733 --> 01:17:40,691 like he didn't intentionally mean to kill my brother. 1663 01:17:40,691 --> 01:17:42,358 I also do not believe that. 1664 01:17:42,358 --> 01:17:43,191 But he did. 1665 01:17:43,191 --> 01:17:45,108 His actions that he had that night 1666 01:17:45,108 --> 01:17:46,816 did cause his death. 1667 01:17:46,816 --> 01:17:50,150 And even if it does take another five years, 1668 01:17:50,150 --> 01:17:51,691 I want his story out there, 1669 01:17:51,691 --> 01:17:54,650 the truth of what really happened that day. 1670 01:17:54,650 --> 01:17:57,900 (poignant piano music) 1671 01:18:13,691 --> 01:18:17,025 (piano music continues) 1672 01:18:29,108 --> 01:18:31,608 (dog barking) 1673 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:36,358 - What I admired most about him 1674 01:18:36,358 --> 01:18:37,400 is 1675 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,191 his zest for life. 1676 01:18:39,191 --> 01:18:40,858 He was such a happy person. 1677 01:18:40,858 --> 01:18:43,816 He was just one of those happy-go-lucky, 1678 01:18:43,816 --> 01:18:47,775 like roll-with-anything kind of personal attitudes. 1679 01:18:49,525 --> 01:18:52,400 Like, he just took advantage of life. 1680 01:18:54,108 --> 01:18:57,191 (solemn piano music) 1681 01:19:01,775 --> 01:19:05,775 He enjoyed his life, the short time that he had. 1682 01:19:07,108 --> 01:19:09,066 And I miss his smile. 1683 01:19:10,150 --> 01:19:13,316 I miss the happiness he always gave to other people. 1684 01:19:20,566 --> 01:19:22,400 He'll be missed forever, for sure. 1685 01:19:24,941 --> 01:19:28,025 (solemn piano music) 1686 01:19:40,566 --> 01:19:44,483 (solemn piano music continues) 1687 01:19:53,566 --> 01:19:57,483 (solemn piano music continues) 1688 01:20:17,150 --> 01:20:20,150 (gritty rock music) 1689 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,733 ♪ I came from the mud ♪ 1690 01:20:25,733 --> 01:20:29,733 ♪ There's dirt on my hands ♪ 1691 01:20:29,733 --> 01:20:32,650 ♪ Strong like a tree ♪ 1692 01:20:32,650 --> 01:20:36,358 ♪ There's roots where I stand ♪ 1693 01:20:36,358 --> 01:20:41,358 ♪ Oh I've been running from the law ♪ 1694 01:20:42,525 --> 01:20:47,525 ♪ Hope they won't shoot me down soon ♪ 1695 01:20:50,650 --> 01:20:55,650 ♪ Pacing on a sleepless night ♪ 1696 01:20:56,441 --> 01:21:01,441 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1697 01:21:03,483 --> 01:21:08,483 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1698 01:21:10,691 --> 01:21:15,691 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1699 01:21:17,525 --> 01:21:22,525 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1700 01:21:26,483 --> 01:21:29,983 ♪ When it rains it pours ♪ 1701 01:21:29,983 --> 01:21:33,650 ♪ Water's up to my chin ♪ 1702 01:21:33,650 --> 01:21:37,025 ♪ Won't stop fighting ♪ 1703 01:21:37,025 --> 01:21:40,608 ♪ To the very end ♪ 1704 01:21:40,608 --> 01:21:44,025 ♪ Many men try to reach it ♪ 1705 01:21:44,025 --> 01:21:46,983 ♪ Many men have failed ♪ 1706 01:21:46,983 --> 01:21:50,483 ♪ Well if you wanna get to heaven ♪ 1707 01:21:50,483 --> 01:21:53,191 ♪ You gotta raise a little hell ♪ 1708 01:21:53,191 --> 01:21:58,191 ♪ And I've been running from the law ♪ 1709 01:21:58,983 --> 01:22:03,983 ♪ Hope they won't shoot me down soon ♪ 1710 01:22:07,066 --> 01:22:12,066 ♪ Pacing on a sleepless night ♪ 1711 01:22:15,025 --> 01:22:20,025 ♪ Howling at the moon ♪ 1712 01:22:21,275 --> 01:22:24,650 ♪ Will you find me ♪ 1713 01:22:24,650 --> 01:22:28,858 ♪ Hope you find me ♪ 1714 01:22:28,858 --> 01:22:33,858 ♪ I'll be back home soon ♪ 1715 01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:38,691 ♪ When the sunrise ♪ 1716 01:22:38,691 --> 01:22:42,608 ♪ When the sun ♪ 1717 01:22:42,608 --> 01:22:44,525 ♪ Rise ♪ 1718 01:22:54,733 --> 01:22:59,733 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1719 01:23:01,775 --> 01:23:06,775 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1720 01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:13,650 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1721 01:23:15,566 --> 01:23:20,566 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪ 1722 01:23:22,483 --> 01:23:26,983 ♪ Try to catch me howling at the moon ♪