1 00:00:05,189 --> 00:00:07,708 ANDY: Previously on the Southern Hospitality reunion... 2 00:00:07,875 --> 00:00:08,942 It's Republic! 3 00:00:09,076 --> 00:00:11,478 - [laughs] - I, like, wanna cry. 4 00:00:11,645 --> 00:00:13,405 This is so amazing. 5 00:00:13,505 --> 00:00:15,908 What does your outfit tonight represent? 6 00:00:16,074 --> 00:00:18,343 - Somebody's funeral. - ANDY: Whose funeral? 7 00:00:18,510 --> 00:00:19,586 Um, I'd say a few people. 8 00:00:20,354 --> 00:00:22,981 I would never even think about treating my friends the way 9 00:00:23,081 --> 00:00:25,492 that you guys treat each other, and come back, and bounce back. 10 00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:27,244 Yeah, you don't know our relationship at all. 11 00:00:27,344 --> 00:00:29,321 We have a very brother-sister relationship. 12 00:00:29,421 --> 00:00:30,931 We literally chase each other around 13 00:00:31,098 --> 00:00:32,466 each other's apartments with fucking knives, like-- 14 00:00:32,599 --> 00:00:33,467 Who's chasing each other around with knives? 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,801 [laughs] 16 00:00:34,935 --> 00:00:36,303 ANDY: When you were pulled over in December, 17 00:00:36,436 --> 00:00:39,923 you were in possession of 12 Klonopin pills 18 00:00:40,023 --> 00:00:43,176 that were obtained without a prescription. 19 00:00:43,277 --> 00:00:45,370 - What's the status of that? - That will be dropped. 20 00:00:45,537 --> 00:00:47,514 - You're confident of that? - I'm very confident. 21 00:00:47,614 --> 00:00:49,449 Both these charges will be dropped. 22 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:51,443 Do you have real feelings for TJ? 23 00:00:51,543 --> 00:00:52,686 No, not anymore. 24 00:00:53,287 --> 00:00:55,322 Is Maddi restricting who you're friends with? 25 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:57,424 You have a hold on Joe, and you limit him 26 00:00:57,524 --> 00:00:59,109 - to hanging out with us. - JOE: Okay. 27 00:00:59,209 --> 00:01:01,395 You think I can control Joe Bradley? You're insane. 28 00:01:08,869 --> 00:01:12,806 After last year's reunion, Emmy had a booming phone call 29 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:16,126 that would echo throughout this entire season. 30 00:01:16,226 --> 00:01:19,546 Emmy, why do you think multiple people had to explain 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,409 why the word "unsafe" was the wrong choice? 32 00:01:24,576 --> 00:01:25,852 [dramatic music] 33 00:01:26,019 --> 00:01:29,339 Part two of the Southern Hospitality reunion starts now. 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,721 Why do you think multiple people had to explain 35 00:01:35,821 --> 00:01:40,367 why the word "unsafe" was the wrong choice? 36 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:42,185 Um... 37 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:45,022 Because I, um... 38 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:48,266 I'm not a great listener. I wasn't listening. 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,511 I think I was-- You know, when I fight with Will sometimes, 40 00:01:51,578 --> 00:01:54,281 he says I'm an emotional terrorist. 41 00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:58,385 And my emotions sometimes take front of everything. 42 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:00,554 Like, I can't see past my emotions. 43 00:02:00,654 --> 00:02:03,490 I can't see what's going on with the other person. 44 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:05,726 All I see is what I'm feeling, 45 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:07,461 and I can't get past that. 46 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:09,763 And it's not acceptable. 47 00:02:09,896 --> 00:02:12,399 And I have Lake and Michols to thank 48 00:02:12,566 --> 00:02:15,969 for really helping educate me on such a sensitive topic 49 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:18,405 that I was so naïve to this season, 50 00:02:18,572 --> 00:02:20,874 that I did not treat with the respect that it deserved. 51 00:02:20,941 --> 00:02:23,443 And I am, from the bottom of my heart, 52 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:27,414 so sorry, Brad, that it took me so long to put-- 53 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:29,116 I'll never understand what it's like to be 54 00:02:29,282 --> 00:02:31,118 a Black African-American male in America. 55 00:02:31,284 --> 00:02:33,153 I'll never understand what it's like to be you. 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,757 And I'm so sorry I was so naïve to it. 57 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:41,428 I'm so sorry I was so naïve to the depth that my words held 58 00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:44,931 and engaging in a stereotype that you face every day. 59 00:02:45,065 --> 00:02:49,836 I never wanted to add to that pain that you go through. 60 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:53,473 And I wasn't fully, obviously, 61 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,542 aware of what a microaggression meant, 62 00:02:55,642 --> 00:02:58,111 and I thought it held a much stronger meaning 63 00:02:58,278 --> 00:03:00,480 of it being intentional and being a racist, 64 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:04,885 and so that's why I was... so batshit crazy. 65 00:03:04,985 --> 00:03:07,688 And I've obviously come to learn 66 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:10,290 that a microaggression is unintentional, 67 00:03:10,457 --> 00:03:13,093 and it's made towards having a bias towards 68 00:03:13,226 --> 00:03:16,630 marginalized groups of people, and I made that towards Brad. 69 00:03:16,763 --> 00:03:18,356 And it doesn't matter what my intent was. 70 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:19,766 It's how he received it. 71 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:23,103 And I am embarrassed that it took me this long. 72 00:03:23,236 --> 00:03:24,788 And I'm sorry. 73 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:29,576 Brad, what's your reaction to that? 74 00:03:29,676 --> 00:03:32,763 As much as I would love to believe that, um... 75 00:03:32,863 --> 00:03:35,115 we've seen time and time again, you've said things, 76 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:37,317 and then you've walked it back later on. 77 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:39,319 You don't feel bad. You feel bad because you're getting blowback. 78 00:03:39,486 --> 00:03:40,787 You feel bad 'cause you're getting 79 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:42,622 attention online that's not nice. 80 00:03:42,723 --> 00:03:44,791 And that's because of the things that came out of your mouth. 81 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:48,228 And I do think that part of you is being genuine. 82 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:50,097 But you know what's gonna happen? You're gonna walk 83 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:52,065 outside that door, and then your mind's gonna completely change 84 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:53,792 like it has time and time again. 85 00:03:53,892 --> 00:03:55,469 I'm gonna do my best... 86 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,572 [sniffles] ...to show you I've changed. 87 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,067 And that's all I can do. 88 00:04:02,234 --> 00:04:03,802 Because I am sorry, Brad. 89 00:04:03,902 --> 00:04:06,179 And I'm ashamed. 90 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:11,209 Once I realized what I had done, Brad, I felt fucking terrible. 91 00:04:11,309 --> 00:04:12,969 Like, I-- 92 00:04:13,069 --> 00:04:15,155 When Lake and Michols explained it to me, 93 00:04:15,322 --> 00:04:17,582 and, like, Lake gets all teared up, 94 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:20,193 and Michols, you know, talks about their own pains, 95 00:04:20,327 --> 00:04:24,364 like, I just-- I felt so... dumb. 96 00:04:24,498 --> 00:04:27,534 And I was like, how could I have done this to someone, 97 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:30,537 whether or not whatever page we were on in our lives. 98 00:04:30,637 --> 00:04:33,173 I don't wanna add to your stereotype, ever. 99 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:35,642 That's not who I am, and it's not something 100 00:04:35,809 --> 00:04:38,044 that I would ever wanna do to you. 101 00:04:38,178 --> 00:04:40,714 And I'm truly, from the bottom of my heart, 102 00:04:40,881 --> 00:04:43,108 I will tell you forever, I am sorry. 103 00:04:43,275 --> 00:04:44,551 Forever, Brad. 104 00:04:44,718 --> 00:04:47,612 For as long as I need to, however I can make it up to you, 105 00:04:47,746 --> 00:04:49,823 I will try my best, 'cause I am sorry. 106 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,691 Like, I'm really sorry. 107 00:04:51,758 --> 00:04:55,120 Watching it back, I'm so sorry, Brad. 108 00:04:55,287 --> 00:04:56,429 Like, I mean it. 109 00:04:56,563 --> 00:04:58,298 From the bottom of my heart, 110 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:01,034 I really, truly mean it. 111 00:05:01,168 --> 00:05:03,053 BRAD: Here's the thing. 112 00:05:04,738 --> 00:05:08,074 If I saw how bad I've hurt a friend, 113 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:11,778 regardless if I understood what I did or not, 114 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:13,647 and I see how upset they are, 115 00:05:13,814 --> 00:05:15,715 and I see how pissed off it's making them, 116 00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:18,451 I'm gonna apologize, because I hurt my friend's feelings. 117 00:05:18,618 --> 00:05:22,113 So why would you continually peddle this? 118 00:05:22,214 --> 00:05:23,523 'Cause I wanted to drop it. 119 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:25,091 I wanted to stop talking about it. 120 00:05:25,192 --> 00:05:26,560 I left Folly Beach being, 121 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:28,428 "Pssh, let's-- I'm ready to move the fuck on." 122 00:05:28,595 --> 00:05:30,297 I know I said some horrible shit about you, 123 00:05:30,397 --> 00:05:33,333 and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Like, I really am. 124 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,169 - I appreciate the apology. - We good? 125 00:05:36,303 --> 00:05:37,270 Yeah, we'll keep moving forward. 126 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:38,605 Okay. 127 00:05:38,738 --> 00:05:40,540 At Folly, you had your chance to speak to me 128 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,175 about the pain I had caused you, 129 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,110 and I just wanted to have a conversation 130 00:05:44,277 --> 00:05:46,404 about some of the ways that I had been hurt. 131 00:05:46,571 --> 00:05:48,481 And when we started filming, 132 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:50,408 I had learned from the group 133 00:05:50,575 --> 00:05:52,953 that you had recorded me outside my hotel room. 134 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:57,390 And that sparked a big nerve inside me, 135 00:05:57,490 --> 00:05:59,259 because it was an invasion of privacy 136 00:05:59,392 --> 00:06:04,322 that reignited a lot of, just, feelings. 137 00:06:04,422 --> 00:06:06,499 Well, you know what? I-- I attempted, right? 138 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:08,660 It wasn't very successful. You can't hear shit. 139 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,803 I'll show you the recording. 140 00:06:10,470 --> 00:06:13,123 You gotta really listen. Put it up to your ear. 141 00:06:14,341 --> 00:06:15,759 [indistinct chatter] 142 00:06:15,859 --> 00:06:17,794 I can't really hear anything, to be honest with you. 143 00:06:19,195 --> 00:06:22,282 But do you know why I even had the thought 144 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:25,277 that, like, "Damn, what she's saying is so crazy 145 00:06:25,443 --> 00:06:26,953 that I probably need to record it"? 146 00:06:27,087 --> 00:06:29,381 Because she's probably gonna lie and say she didn't do any of it. 147 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:30,849 - Right? And I've been... - Brad, I'm-- 148 00:06:30,949 --> 00:06:32,859 ...pretty on par with that. Right? 149 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:35,887 I'm not missing-- That's-- that's pretty accurate. 150 00:06:36,021 --> 00:06:37,197 I tried. It didn't work. 151 00:06:37,364 --> 00:06:38,832 So, like, you can say that it was an invasion-- 152 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:40,467 I got it, TJ. Stop talking. 153 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:43,036 You can say that it was an invasion of privacy, 154 00:06:43,203 --> 00:06:45,538 but I-- I wasn't looking for your room. 155 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,207 You said I stalked your hotel room. 156 00:06:47,374 --> 00:06:50,293 That is dark as fuck. That is dark. 157 00:06:50,393 --> 00:06:54,072 Like, I-- I'm sorry, but my bandwidth for your apology 158 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:55,649 is really fucking short. 159 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,409 You don't even know-- 160 00:06:57,542 --> 00:07:01,521 You don't even know what I had to deal with by my lonesome. 161 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:05,483 You have no idea how hard it is to be put in emotional handcuffs 162 00:07:05,583 --> 00:07:08,053 and described as scary, described as stalking you, 163 00:07:08,153 --> 00:07:10,889 described as some fucking evil, insane maniac. 164 00:07:10,989 --> 00:07:12,966 That's crazy. That is crazy. 165 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:15,468 You have no idea how hard that is. 166 00:07:15,568 --> 00:07:17,370 It hurt me to my fucking core. 167 00:07:17,504 --> 00:07:19,506 When it was happening, when I had to re-watch it and 168 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:22,042 had to see all the other scenes that I wasn't even privy to. 169 00:07:22,208 --> 00:07:23,610 So your apologies, 170 00:07:23,743 --> 00:07:25,545 I'm sure you had plenty of time to work on it, 171 00:07:25,645 --> 00:07:27,948 and I'm glad you did, and I'm glad you learned this lesson, 172 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:30,033 but this is a really hard lesson for you to learn. 173 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:34,020 Emmy, you said in Edisto 174 00:07:34,154 --> 00:07:37,190 that you were never scared for your physical safety. 175 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,126 So why did you go back and tell people otherwise? 176 00:07:41,428 --> 00:07:42,996 I think when I had conversations 177 00:07:43,096 --> 00:07:46,032 with some other people, they, um... 178 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:48,335 not everyone that I talked to 179 00:07:48,501 --> 00:07:50,854 had the same perspective as the people in this room. 180 00:07:50,954 --> 00:07:54,908 I was given kind of opposing opinions that 181 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:57,711 a man is stronger than a woman and X, Y, Z. 182 00:07:57,877 --> 00:07:59,579 - Well, so-- - Knowing who Brad is, though, 183 00:07:59,679 --> 00:08:02,682 I know that my physical safety, though, was never a problem, 184 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:04,818 - and I think what was-- - ANDY: But then why... 185 00:08:04,985 --> 00:08:08,621 I think for me, the issue wasn't physical safety, 186 00:08:08,755 --> 00:08:11,157 it was emotional safety, and it was that I was 187 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:14,060 emotionally worried about retaliation. 188 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,388 And it wasn't that I thought Brad was gonna ever 189 00:08:16,488 --> 00:08:18,631 knock my door down, and I know watching the scene, 190 00:08:18,732 --> 00:08:21,634 like, describing him as scary and unsafe... 191 00:08:21,801 --> 00:08:23,336 - And a threat. - Stalker. 192 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:28,066 ...was not-- it was a horrible choice of words. 193 00:08:28,233 --> 00:08:31,644 So, TJ and Brad, you both said you think Emmy's fiancé 194 00:08:31,778 --> 00:08:34,948 might be influencing her actions and opinions. 195 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:37,884 Is there anyone else here who feels that way? 196 00:08:38,051 --> 00:08:40,253 Me. I think that as well. 197 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,856 Sometimes when she speaks, I hear Will, like, coming out. 198 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:48,828 - Will is not on this... - BRAD: We know, we know. 199 00:08:48,928 --> 00:08:50,422 - I know he's not here. - But Will's not here, so-- 200 00:08:50,588 --> 00:08:51,998 - I know he's not here. - Yeah, but you talk 201 00:08:52,098 --> 00:08:53,633 - to him every day. - EMMY: I mean, but he-- 202 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,261 - I don't think, like, were-- - It just, it-- For me, 203 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:57,771 it's frustrating, because it validates that 204 00:08:57,871 --> 00:08:59,272 I don't have a brain of my own. 205 00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:00,974 - I don't think for myself. - I never said that. 206 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,976 EMMY: Right, obviously, I'm saying that's how I feel. 207 00:09:03,109 --> 00:09:05,979 It feels as though he's pulling some strings and I'm a puppet. 208 00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:08,706 And it's like, I understand the perspective 209 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,384 that people have of him, but, obviously, 210 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:14,454 he's the closest person to me aside from my family, and-- 211 00:09:14,621 --> 00:09:16,523 Yes, and you talk to him, and he definitely gives you advice. 212 00:09:16,689 --> 00:09:18,383 I mean, I've seen him firsthand manipulate you. 213 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:19,951 Yeah, but, like, I ask Maddi for advice all the time. 214 00:09:20,051 --> 00:09:20,960 Do you talk to him about the show or no? 215 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,195 Yes, I do. But I don't-- 216 00:09:22,362 --> 00:09:23,930 Will is not involved in this. 217 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,166 I try not to get him involved in this, 218 00:09:26,299 --> 00:09:27,801 - because he is-- - Well, I mean, excuse me. 219 00:09:27,934 --> 00:09:30,528 - This was a huge thing. - EMMY: Oh, well, yeah, no. 220 00:09:30,628 --> 00:09:32,872 So I can't imagine that you didn't discuss it 221 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:34,566 with him for hours upon hours. 222 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:36,009 - I mean... - EMMY: No, I mean, I did. 223 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:38,878 Will's advice for me at the time was for me 224 00:09:39,045 --> 00:09:41,114 to go and reach out to Lucía. 225 00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:42,515 She's a close friend of yours, 226 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:44,484 she can give you an eye into the situation. 227 00:09:44,551 --> 00:09:45,919 You told the story different to Lucía 228 00:09:46,052 --> 00:09:47,220 than you told to anyone else. 229 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:48,688 That's 'cause you knew it was wrong. 230 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:52,125 And, um... that's who I sought out. 231 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:54,661 With a different story than you said 232 00:09:54,727 --> 00:09:56,763 about Brad to everybody else. 233 00:09:57,564 --> 00:10:00,033 You told her that I told you to sleep with one eye open. 234 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:03,870 Brad, obviously, you were intoxicated, you were angry, 235 00:10:03,970 --> 00:10:06,506 and then you tried to scare me and be like, 236 00:10:06,573 --> 00:10:08,541 - "Sleep with one eye open." - Yeah. 237 00:10:08,675 --> 00:10:12,003 That's not a microaggression. That's a fucking lie. 238 00:10:12,170 --> 00:10:13,480 You lied. 239 00:10:13,646 --> 00:10:16,716 Over, and over, and over again, you lied. 240 00:10:16,816 --> 00:10:21,079 [tense music] 241 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:31,623 You lied. Over, and over, and over again, you lied. 242 00:10:31,723 --> 00:10:35,502 I can't even stress how-- how hurt, 243 00:10:35,602 --> 00:10:38,037 and-- and destroyed that I am. 244 00:10:38,171 --> 00:10:41,875 [tense music] 245 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:44,010 ANDY: Okay. Um... 246 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:46,529 Michols, Emmy made it very clear 247 00:10:46,629 --> 00:10:49,641 that she expected you to take her side over Brad's. 248 00:10:49,741 --> 00:10:53,978 What was your reaction to seeing Emmy tell Maddi 249 00:10:54,112 --> 00:10:55,705 that you should agree with her? 250 00:10:55,805 --> 00:10:58,491 EMMY: 251 00:11:03,263 --> 00:11:07,400 So, I think my biggest thing is I didn't agree with her at all. 252 00:11:07,534 --> 00:11:10,770 And everybody knows what it's like to film a show. 253 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:13,598 Emotions be heightened, the whole nine. 254 00:11:13,731 --> 00:11:15,708 However, how she was feeling 255 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:18,228 is not an excuse for her verbiage. 256 00:11:18,328 --> 00:11:22,448 And, expressing that, she should have known better. 257 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:25,843 So, that's why I had such a difficult time. 258 00:11:25,944 --> 00:11:28,780 Because, not only being Black, 259 00:11:28,913 --> 00:11:31,783 but also Hispanic, I felt it deeply. 260 00:11:31,950 --> 00:11:34,410 And me trying to, like, shake her and be like, 261 00:11:34,510 --> 00:11:35,995 "Wake up, stop what you're doing, 262 00:11:36,095 --> 00:11:38,323 "because when you watch it back, you're gonna regret it," 263 00:11:38,489 --> 00:11:40,016 was just so difficult... 264 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:45,405 um, and that's why I had to take a beat in the summer. 265 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:47,665 Lake, viewers had a lot to say 266 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:50,368 about you having Emmy's back this season. 267 00:11:50,501 --> 00:11:52,804 The Soft Result said, "It doesn't matter if Brad 268 00:11:52,937 --> 00:11:54,981 "friend-zoned you or whatever, Lake should have stood up 269 00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:57,675 "and called out her friend, Emmy." 270 00:11:57,809 --> 00:12:00,612 So how did it feel for you to get so much hate 271 00:12:00,712 --> 00:12:02,880 for having Emmy's back? 272 00:12:03,014 --> 00:12:05,625 Ultimately, I had multiple one-on-one conversations 273 00:12:05,792 --> 00:12:09,153 with Emmy, and I told her that I did not condone what she said 274 00:12:09,287 --> 00:12:11,731 - or how she said it. - Did you feel like she got it? 275 00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:13,633 - Yes, there's times-- - How long did it take 276 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,337 - for her to get it? - I mean, there was times where 277 00:12:17,503 --> 00:12:20,840 I was a little bit frustrated, you know, and I was like, 278 00:12:20,974 --> 00:12:24,168 "Emmy, I told you, I told you not to cry." 279 00:12:24,302 --> 00:12:27,372 I said, "Do not cry." Like, "Get your shit together." 280 00:12:27,538 --> 00:12:29,307 I do not condone what she said, 281 00:12:29,407 --> 00:12:32,468 but I do have grace for people that make mistakes. 282 00:12:32,568 --> 00:12:35,972 That's how people get educated. People get educated by learning. 283 00:12:36,072 --> 00:12:38,491 And also, Lake and-- Brad had asked Lake and Michols 284 00:12:38,591 --> 00:12:40,960 to leave it alone, that he was gonna speak to me. 285 00:12:41,060 --> 00:12:42,720 So they at first were very like, 286 00:12:42,854 --> 00:12:44,188 "We're gonna let Brad talk to you." 287 00:12:44,355 --> 00:12:46,532 ANDY: Lake, the internet went wild when your mom 288 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:48,968 called you out for talking to white people 289 00:12:49,068 --> 00:12:50,837 about Black people's business. 290 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,172 GERI: 291 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,992 LAKE: I know. I just, like-- I told her asking her 292 00:12:56,092 --> 00:12:58,328 for, like, advice, and I was like, is this-- 293 00:12:58,428 --> 00:13:00,446 GERI: 294 00:13:05,276 --> 00:13:09,489 ANDY: Endayarm said, "Lake's mom just said the realest thing 295 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:12,125 "I ever heard on reality TV." 296 00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:14,160 And so what's been your mom's reaction 297 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:16,195 to watching this all play out this season? 298 00:13:16,296 --> 00:13:17,955 Well, ultimately, she was like, 299 00:13:18,122 --> 00:13:20,725 "You know who you are and you know that you're not a sellout." 300 00:13:20,858 --> 00:13:23,394 Like, she's like, "You're not a sellout, Lake. Fix it." 301 00:13:23,528 --> 00:13:26,072 And has her opinion of Emmy changed? 302 00:13:26,205 --> 00:13:29,242 My mom has had conversations with Emmy, and my mom-- 303 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:31,194 - ANDY: About this? - LAKE: Yeah. 304 00:13:31,294 --> 00:13:34,739 And my mom has talked to Emmy, and their relationship is fine. 305 00:13:34,906 --> 00:13:36,741 She's happy for her and Will. 306 00:13:36,874 --> 00:13:38,518 Like, she even said at BravoCon, she was like, 307 00:13:38,685 --> 00:13:41,813 "I see how Will is with Emmy. I think that he didn't cheat." 308 00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:44,415 You know, she was like, "He didn't cheat. That was a lie." 309 00:13:44,549 --> 00:13:46,793 And so, I think, you know-- 310 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:48,653 Did your mom talk about what she said? 311 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:50,088 - Oh, the microaggression? - LEVA: Yeah. 312 00:13:50,254 --> 00:13:51,489 That's what he's asking about. 313 00:13:51,622 --> 00:13:53,032 LAKE: Yes, my mom has talked about that. 314 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,068 My mom is like, you know, "You need to get it right, 315 00:13:55,234 --> 00:13:56,719 "make it right, apologize. 316 00:13:56,819 --> 00:13:59,630 "Accountability, and also, you need to do your part." 317 00:13:59,764 --> 00:14:01,641 And I've tried to do my part in this. 318 00:14:01,741 --> 00:14:04,060 I would never condone a microaggression against you 319 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,612 or anything racist in any manner, 320 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:09,674 because I have felt it myself my whole entire life. 321 00:14:09,807 --> 00:14:13,920 And, Brad, I'm sorry that this has had this toll, 322 00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:17,356 and that many Black men have felt this. 323 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:20,485 - It's sad. It's sad. - Mm-hmm. Yeah. 324 00:14:20,651 --> 00:14:23,121 ANDY: Bren from Los Angeles said, "Brad, I'm so impressed 325 00:14:23,287 --> 00:14:26,324 "by your grace, patience, and self-preservation. 326 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:28,359 "You stayed strong in the face of some 327 00:14:28,493 --> 00:14:30,461 "seriously heinous accusations. 328 00:14:30,628 --> 00:14:33,439 "I hope you feel the love from the Bravoverse." 329 00:14:33,606 --> 00:14:37,610 What has the response been from the audience for you? 330 00:14:37,777 --> 00:14:42,540 Um... I'd say probably about 85% positive. 331 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,342 So that 15, where there's some-- 332 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:46,144 You know, when you talk about things like this, 333 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:49,789 that other half of America has something to say as well, 334 00:14:49,922 --> 00:14:51,491 and it's not very kind. 335 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:53,943 Some derogatory things, some racist things. 336 00:14:54,043 --> 00:14:56,387 It was directed towards me, but, you know, 337 00:14:56,521 --> 00:14:58,898 it made shockwaves bigger than just me. 338 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:03,503 Everyone else that looks a little bit different felt that. 339 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:04,862 Yep. 340 00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:12,745 It's awful. It's awful. And I'm just-- I am sorry. 341 00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:15,982 Do you understand that he will probably 342 00:15:16,082 --> 00:15:17,967 - need time to process this? - EMMY: Of course, of course. 343 00:15:18,067 --> 00:15:22,680 I know. I just-- I hope one day you can see that I was naïve 344 00:15:22,814 --> 00:15:24,215 and that I have learned from this, 345 00:15:24,348 --> 00:15:26,350 and I will never make this mistake again. 346 00:15:26,517 --> 00:15:27,827 - Good. - 'Cause I never want to put 347 00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:29,629 someone in the position that I put you in. 348 00:15:29,729 --> 00:15:31,597 I'm glad you learned a lesson. 349 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:34,851 We'll be right back. 350 00:15:37,495 --> 00:15:39,672 - LEVA: Coming up... - Gia from Albany said, 351 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,041 "It feels like there's something more behind Mia's breakup." 352 00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:43,442 Did you not cheat on him? 353 00:15:44,243 --> 00:15:46,028 - That's what I heard. - Oh! 354 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:03,429 PRODUCER: All right, guys. Take those phones, 355 00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:04,931 clear it out, please. Take your seats. 356 00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:07,258 - MIA: Booger check? - MOLLY: Huh? 357 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:12,263 PRODUCER: All right, guys. In three, two, one... 358 00:16:13,239 --> 00:16:15,875 When this crew wasn't clocked in at Republic, 359 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:18,344 they were working on their love lives full-time. 360 00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:21,047 We had an engagement, multiple relationships, 361 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:22,748 an alleged three-way, 362 00:16:22,882 --> 00:16:27,420 plus enough body shots to put the "lick" in "Republic." 363 00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:28,654 Fire. 364 00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:30,256 ANDY: Christy from South Dakota said, 365 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:32,425 "Emmy has the best fashion sense. 366 00:16:32,558 --> 00:16:34,627 "I can't wait to see what she wears down the aisle." 367 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,629 Do you have a dress picked out yet? 368 00:16:36,762 --> 00:16:38,297 - I do. - ANDY: You do? 369 00:16:38,464 --> 00:16:39,932 - I do. - ANDY: When's the wedding? 370 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:42,168 Summer of 2027. 371 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:44,003 We're looking at the Cotswolds in England. 372 00:16:44,136 --> 00:16:46,072 - ANDY: Wow. - I grew up in London for 373 00:16:46,205 --> 00:16:48,608 four years, and his family, his mom specifically, 374 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:52,778 is English, so it holds a dear spot to the both of us. 375 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:56,015 A lot of viewers noticed that you never call him "Will." 376 00:16:56,182 --> 00:16:58,618 - You always say "my fiancé." - Yeah. 377 00:16:58,784 --> 00:17:00,453 I did not say you were dead to me. 378 00:17:00,586 --> 00:17:02,280 It was probably my fiancé. 379 00:17:02,847 --> 00:17:04,991 I'm in my hotel room having a private conversation 380 00:17:05,157 --> 00:17:06,918 with my fiancé and my mother. 381 00:17:07,018 --> 00:17:08,861 Just because I don't have my fiancé here 382 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,087 to fucking defend me. 383 00:17:10,187 --> 00:17:11,430 ANDY: Do you like that? 384 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:13,524 Um, I think it was just trying to give him 385 00:17:13,691 --> 00:17:16,836 more, like, respect, um, since he wanted more privacy 386 00:17:16,969 --> 00:17:18,671 from being on the show this season. 387 00:17:18,838 --> 00:17:20,273 I thought you liked saying it. 388 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:21,966 - Oh, "my fiancé"? - Yeah, it's got a ring to it. 389 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:23,376 - I mean, that too. - I would like saying it. 390 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:24,710 I liked saying it when I got to say it. 391 00:17:24,844 --> 00:17:26,379 - Yeah, I would like it. - EMMY: Yeah. 392 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,382 Brad, you and Julia are coming up on two years. 393 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:30,716 - Mm-hmm. Yeah. - ANDY: Congratulations. 394 00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:31,951 - Thank you so much. - ANDY: Any plans 395 00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:33,853 for the next three years? 396 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,321 No plans for the next three years. 397 00:17:35,488 --> 00:17:37,456 Just taking it year by year. 398 00:17:38,124 --> 00:17:40,851 ANDY: So, Lake, what went down with you and the Milkman 399 00:17:40,985 --> 00:17:42,728 after the Law Prom? 400 00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:46,132 - Oh, my God. - What a pivot, huh? 401 00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:49,802 That's crazy. Okay, let me preface this. 402 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:52,964 I did not have a threesome with Oisin. 403 00:17:53,064 --> 00:17:56,133 I will say, I was being a little messy when I brought that up. 404 00:17:56,233 --> 00:17:57,810 I'm not gossiping at all. 405 00:17:57,944 --> 00:18:00,046 My roommates think Oisin had a threesome 406 00:18:00,212 --> 00:18:02,582 with Lake and that girl she was hooking up with. 407 00:18:04,016 --> 00:18:05,251 But I was hearing whispers. 408 00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:07,378 - Yeah, Joe! - I'm sorry. I didn't-- 409 00:18:07,511 --> 00:18:09,355 Me and Lake have duked it out since then. 410 00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:11,090 - Come on, Joey. - JOE: 'Cause, like, 411 00:18:11,223 --> 00:18:13,818 I've seen Oisin get with many women. 412 00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:17,021 - MADDI: He really liked Lake. - He was really hung up on Lake. 413 00:18:17,154 --> 00:18:19,298 He was really butt-hurt. He was really upset wh-- 414 00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:20,866 - Damn! - When you didn't-- 415 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,836 You ghosted him. You ghosted him and you broke his heart. 416 00:18:23,970 --> 00:18:25,671 - You're out of his league. - LAKE: Huh? 417 00:18:25,805 --> 00:18:27,431 - Yeah. Yes. - You're out of his league. 418 00:18:27,598 --> 00:18:29,041 - Oh, yeah. - Of course he was hung up. 419 00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:31,611 - I mean... - JOE: Well, obviously. [laughs] 420 00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:36,574 So, Justin, you started dating Republic bartender Jordyn. 421 00:18:36,707 --> 00:18:39,944 Then you cozied up to Mia, and by the end of the season, 422 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:42,580 you were talking about marrying Charley, 423 00:18:42,713 --> 00:18:44,215 from Southern Charm. 424 00:18:44,348 --> 00:18:45,224 Oh, yeah. 425 00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:46,892 I think Charley's the one. 426 00:18:47,026 --> 00:18:48,761 I think I'm gonna propose. 427 00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:50,229 All right, we'll talk to you 428 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,098 - in about a month. - [laughing] 429 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:56,002 So things between you and Charley now are strong, right? 430 00:18:56,102 --> 00:18:59,038 Yeah. She's amazing. She's the love of my life, I think. 431 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:01,732 - Wow, the love of your life? - JUSTIN: Yeah, absolutely. 432 00:19:01,866 --> 00:19:04,310 - That is great. - She's the most gorgeous girl 433 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:07,780 I've ever seen, and it's a joy just to call her mine, so. 434 00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:10,708 - Aww! - ANDY: Was there any overlap 435 00:19:10,808 --> 00:19:13,486 between when Charley was talking to Craig 436 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:16,088 - and you hanging out with her? - JUSTIN: No, not at all. 437 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,723 I don't know. It was tough watching that back, 438 00:19:17,857 --> 00:19:19,191 knowing that Charley was, like, innocent. 439 00:19:19,291 --> 00:19:20,993 Charm had closed out filming. 440 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,887 Salley and Charley came into Republic. 441 00:19:22,987 --> 00:19:26,165 They both were like, "Who the hell is that guy? He's so cute." 442 00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:28,968 I went and told Justin, "Go say hi. 443 00:19:29,135 --> 00:19:30,469 "The girls think you're cute." 444 00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:32,271 Lo and behold, 48 hours, he's like, 445 00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:33,873 "I'm going on a date with Charley." 446 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,641 And I was like, well, damn, the man moves fast. 447 00:19:35,775 --> 00:19:38,769 There were people online who thought 448 00:19:38,903 --> 00:19:41,939 that you were saying you were 30% gay 449 00:19:42,073 --> 00:19:44,350 to profit for your OnlyFans. 450 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:46,352 - Yeah, the queerbaiting. - What's your reaction to that? 451 00:19:46,485 --> 00:19:48,554 - Gay for pay. - JUSTIN: Yeah, I'm comfortable 452 00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:51,157 in my sexuality, okay? That's the bottom line. 453 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:54,585 To get serious about the matter is that I objectively 454 00:19:54,685 --> 00:19:56,253 - like what I like. - Michols. 455 00:19:56,353 --> 00:19:57,596 JUSTIN: Have I exclusively been with women? 456 00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:59,198 - Hey. - JUSTIN: Absolutely. 457 00:19:59,365 --> 00:20:01,434 If there was a guy, a sweeping fellow that came 458 00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:04,036 and took me off my feet and it was perfect in every way, then 459 00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:06,839 I would not have any hesitation moving forward with it. 460 00:20:06,972 --> 00:20:08,265 It's sexuality. It's fluid. 461 00:20:08,365 --> 00:20:09,934 - You know what I mean? - Good for you. 462 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:13,345 I thought it was emblematic of where we are today 463 00:20:13,512 --> 00:20:15,848 and where we're going as a society, 464 00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:17,475 and I thought it was great. 465 00:20:17,608 --> 00:20:19,118 Well, that's just me, right? 466 00:20:19,251 --> 00:20:21,645 And it's like, now, being in Charleston 467 00:20:21,779 --> 00:20:23,322 is tough because, you know, 468 00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:25,825 I can only imagine, and my heart sympathizes 469 00:20:25,991 --> 00:20:28,360 with people like TJ, Brad, and Lake, 470 00:20:28,494 --> 00:20:30,663 identifying on the spectrum, 471 00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:33,032 - the LGBTQ spectrum. - Michols. 472 00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:34,467 - Like, 'cause, like-- - What am I? 473 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,127 - Not Brad, but Michols. - JUSTIN: What? 474 00:20:36,227 --> 00:20:37,803 - He meant Michols. - What did I say? Oh, my bad. 475 00:20:37,937 --> 00:20:39,905 - LAKE: Different Black guy. - I knew it! 476 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,141 - [overlapping chatter] - Um, I gotta back up. 477 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,509 I could go either way. 478 00:20:43,642 --> 00:20:47,046 - I was-- That was exciting. - BRAD: Yeah. 479 00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:48,572 - We were like, "Wait." - Coming out. Whoo! 480 00:20:48,706 --> 00:20:50,416 Brad, I was gonna say. Brad, tell 'em. 481 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:52,818 But it is like, a tough spot, 482 00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:54,912 and then, like, I feel like I've had to answer to it, 483 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:58,224 and even in my relationship with Charley now, it's just like... 484 00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:59,792 It shouldn't be that big of a deal. 485 00:20:59,892 --> 00:21:01,427 - It shouldn't. - Yeah. It shouldn't be like-- 486 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,462 We shouldn't even be having to talk about that. 487 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:04,964 Yeah. I know. Mm-hmm. 488 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:08,434 Mia, if the messiness with Jordyn didn't happen, 489 00:21:08,567 --> 00:21:10,936 would you have actually given Justin a chance? 490 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,405 No, I don't think so. I think we just-- 491 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:15,541 When we sat down on the date, we, like, realized that 492 00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:17,668 we were just pretty good friends. 493 00:21:17,768 --> 00:21:19,770 The Jordyn situation... 494 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:21,572 it was too messy for me. 495 00:21:21,705 --> 00:21:22,948 It felt like-- I said it on the show, 496 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,517 like baby mama drama but with no baby. 497 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:27,019 It's like me and Jordyn was like a situationship, 498 00:21:27,153 --> 00:21:29,321 but it was never to the fact that, like, you know, 499 00:21:29,421 --> 00:21:32,224 we were exclusive or we were going on dates all the time. 500 00:21:32,358 --> 00:21:33,918 Like, it was more so she would come after me. 501 00:21:34,051 --> 00:21:36,462 Were you hiding it from production for a reason? 502 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:37,863 - Yes. - I don't think I was 503 00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:39,431 hiding it from production. 504 00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:41,033 - LAKE: Yes. He was. He was. - MICHOLS: 1,000%. 505 00:21:41,167 --> 00:21:43,035 - He was. - He downplayed the fuck 506 00:21:43,169 --> 00:21:44,595 out of that relationship. 507 00:21:50,242 --> 00:21:52,803 He downplayed the fuck out of that relationship. 508 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:56,515 I have messages, actually, of when Jordyn met his parents. 509 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:59,018 Do you have a situationship that ever met your parents? 510 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:02,188 Do you wanna know the truth about that situation? 511 00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:05,391 My parents were visiting me in Charleston. 512 00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:07,484 Jordyn was not invited. 513 00:22:07,618 --> 00:22:10,821 Jordyn came into my apartment unannounced, 514 00:22:10,988 --> 00:22:13,132 like she's done two or three times before 515 00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:14,934 - because she was upset. - Two or three times? 516 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,368 - Yes, Lake. - No! 517 00:22:16,468 --> 00:22:18,270 - You guys talked for months. - Lake-- Lake-- 518 00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:20,439 She stayed at your house. I had her location every single night. 519 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:21,974 - How are you gonna tell me-- - She had a toothbrush 520 00:22:22,141 --> 00:22:24,009 - at your house. - Lake, I go to Costco 521 00:22:24,143 --> 00:22:25,644 - and I buy them in bulk. - LAKE: You're lying. 522 00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:27,329 And you brought her clothes. 523 00:22:27,496 --> 00:22:29,506 Toothbrush for you, toothbrush for you... 524 00:22:29,673 --> 00:22:32,751 Lake, are your text messages between you and Jordyn 525 00:22:32,885 --> 00:22:34,820 or text messages between Justin and Jordyn? 526 00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:37,339 It's Justin and Jordyn's text messages, she sent them to 527 00:22:37,506 --> 00:22:39,825 me because she was like, "He's downplaying that relationship." 528 00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:41,727 Can I please clear the air before this just gets dirty? 529 00:22:41,827 --> 00:22:44,463 - She wants her story said. - LAKE: Jordyn's just like, 530 00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:47,466 "I just don't wanna get hurt. This just isn't enough." 531 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,636 She's just kind of, like, venting to him. 532 00:22:50,769 --> 00:22:53,939 And then Justin goes, "I shape my days around you." 533 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:56,375 What you guys aren't seeing are the conversations 534 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:59,211 had in person. Like, that's a huge part of this. 535 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,980 The bottom line was, she wanted 536 00:23:01,146 --> 00:23:02,514 something more in the relationship. 537 00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:04,183 Unfortunately, that's not my issue. 538 00:23:04,316 --> 00:23:06,051 MADDI: You don't think there's anything you did, though, 539 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,586 to make her feel that way? I just don't like this narrative 540 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,822 that, like, oh, the girl's crazy and the man's not. 541 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,190 - She's in the wrong. Yeah. - When the thing is 542 00:23:11,323 --> 00:23:13,225 girls are that way because of a man. 543 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,760 In the messages, she's trying to, like... 544 00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:16,320 So you don't think you love-bombed her, 545 00:23:16,387 --> 00:23:18,530 or told her you were gonna be exclusive? 546 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,400 You talked about exclusivity with her before-- 547 00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:23,560 - Lake, what-- - Before Edisto, and then 548 00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:25,571 you went and kissed Mia. 549 00:23:27,364 --> 00:23:28,832 MADDI: Jordyn's okay with this? 550 00:23:28,899 --> 00:23:30,876 I thought you, Molly, and Jordyn were all friends. 551 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:34,346 MIA: Molly is my friend, and then Jordyn's her roommate. 552 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,665 And what is the harm about 553 00:23:36,732 --> 00:23:39,752 exploring my dating life as someone in their young 20s? 554 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:43,155 [overlapping chatter] 555 00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:45,824 She was with him every single day. 556 00:23:45,958 --> 00:23:48,427 - She spent the night with him-- - There comes to a point where 557 00:23:48,527 --> 00:23:50,054 there's no need to argue about it. 558 00:23:50,187 --> 00:23:52,398 Like, this is-- this is defamatory. 559 00:23:52,531 --> 00:23:56,168 - This is just defamatory. - Lake needs to give it up. 560 00:23:56,302 --> 00:23:57,870 - [overlapping arguing] - I think she has 561 00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,205 - a crush on Justin. - This is high school drama. 562 00:24:00,339 --> 00:24:01,907 - I'm not gonna be defamed-- - No, it's not. It hurt 563 00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:04,268 my friend's feelings, and this was me defending my friend. 564 00:24:04,401 --> 00:24:06,312 You guys weren't friends. Jordyn never liked you. 565 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:08,213 - LAKE: Yes, she did. - No, she didn't, Lake. 566 00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:09,448 They just went to Japan together. 567 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:10,941 We just went to Japan together! 568 00:24:11,075 --> 00:24:12,368 ANDY: Can I ask you a question? 569 00:24:12,434 --> 00:24:14,787 - Lake, why are you so... - JUSTIN: Exactly. 570 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,221 ...heated up about this? 571 00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:18,707 Maddy as well. What involvement-- 572 00:24:18,774 --> 00:24:20,292 'Cause we're friends with Jordyn. 573 00:24:20,392 --> 00:24:22,761 We've worked with her, Andy, for, like, over two years. 574 00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:24,229 JUSTIN: You don't talk to Jordyn at all, Maddi. 575 00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:25,798 She's a very important woman in our lives. 576 00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:27,566 Justin's been here for a couple months. 577 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,269 Maddi, you told me to stay away from Jordyn and it's bad news, 578 00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,304 and that Ally Lewber was coming to Charleston, 579 00:24:32,438 --> 00:24:33,964 and that I should go out and date her. 580 00:24:34,131 --> 00:24:35,507 - Why didn't you ever date me? - I would. 581 00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:37,101 We would've been on a good day. 582 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:40,079 Were you trying to set him up with Ally Lewber? 583 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:44,483 No, it wasn't that. I advised him not to be with Jordyn 584 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:47,619 and to end the whole thing, because she was being led on. 585 00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:49,488 And I was like, "Date other people. 586 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:51,390 I'm like, "Here's an example: Ally." 587 00:24:51,523 --> 00:24:53,092 Like, she knew I was dating other people. 588 00:24:53,225 --> 00:24:55,227 - What was the timeline? - ANDY: How long did you date? 589 00:24:55,361 --> 00:24:56,820 - I don't know. - Since Vegas. 590 00:24:56,987 --> 00:24:58,664 - I really don't know. - Like two months? 591 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,624 - No, it was three or four. - Since Vegas? They met there. 592 00:25:00,758 --> 00:25:02,134 Yeah, they hooked up in Vegas. 593 00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:03,836 - You know that. You were there. - Yes, they met in Vegas. 594 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,471 You don't know her, you're not friends with her. 595 00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:06,672 You go to Vegas with her, though. Okay, cool. 596 00:25:06,805 --> 00:25:07,773 I didn't go to Vegas with her. 597 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,909 MADDI: Were you not in Las Vegas, Nevada with her? 598 00:25:11,043 --> 00:25:13,879 Hey, hey, hey. Breathe. Breathe, breathe, breathe. 599 00:25:13,979 --> 00:25:15,639 Stop gaslighting me and just saying calm down. 600 00:25:15,773 --> 00:25:17,683 I'm talking to you like a normal human being. 601 00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:20,586 Who in this group thinks that Mia is a girl's girl? 602 00:25:20,719 --> 00:25:23,322 Yeah! Who in this group does not think that Mia is a girl's girl? 603 00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:24,723 - All of us. - Raise your hand, Joe. 604 00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:26,024 - Raise your hand, Maddi. - All of us. 605 00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:27,459 Raise your hand, Leva. 606 00:25:27,593 --> 00:25:29,161 What does a girl's girl even fucking mean? 607 00:25:29,294 --> 00:25:31,563 Guys, that's crazy, guys. We weren't together. 608 00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:33,198 Oh, my God. Justin, shut the fuck up. 609 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:35,534 I don't care about you. Blah, blah, blah, blah. 610 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:37,069 And I was upset with Mia 611 00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:39,171 for more than just the Jordyn trauma. 612 00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:42,241 Literally right before-- No. Ooh. Ooh! 613 00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:44,476 Is that what it is? Do you not like Mia and me 614 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:45,811 - because some other reason-- - Hey, hey. Shh. Shh. 615 00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:47,846 Let her speak. You're gaslighting. 616 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,648 - Let me speak, let me speak. - Gaslighter. 617 00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:51,216 "Gaslighting"? What are you talking about? 618 00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:52,876 He gaslights Lake 24-fucking-7. 619 00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:55,220 - He does. - Oh, okay. Oh, okay, okay. 620 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:56,972 Telling you you're wrong is not gaslighting you, by the way. 621 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:58,524 LAKE: Can I tell you why else I'm mad at you? 622 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:00,225 I already know, but, like.... 623 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:02,995 So we went to a movie premiere party. 624 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:05,722 Me, you, Joe, Michols. 625 00:26:05,856 --> 00:26:07,558 We all decided to go out after. 626 00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:10,669 We started at Uptown, and then we made our way to Republic. 627 00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:14,540 Then I see an ex that you knew cheated on me, 628 00:26:14,673 --> 00:26:17,493 on Valentine's Day, actually, and I was hurt by that. 629 00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,879 And then you decide to walk up to him, and I'm literally like, 630 00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:22,381 "No, no, no." You walk up to him-- 631 00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:23,832 - You told me to go up to him! - No, I didn't! 632 00:26:23,899 --> 00:26:25,242 I did not tell you to go up to him. 633 00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:27,086 - That is wrong of you. - No, I didn't. 634 00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:28,720 I would never tell you to go up to my ex and talk to my ex, 635 00:26:28,854 --> 00:26:30,322 especially knowing your male-centered energy. 636 00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:31,857 I would not tell you to go talk to my ex. 637 00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:33,425 That is not male-centered energy. 638 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,027 Are you saying that she did it intentionally? 639 00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,420 Hey, hey, hey! I'm not talking to you. 640 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,181 [overlapping chatter] 641 00:26:39,248 --> 00:26:40,732 - You went up to my ex-- - Stop hooting and hollering. 642 00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,860 LAKE: You had a whole 15-minute conversation. 643 00:26:42,926 --> 00:26:44,428 - You need to-- - No. Shh, shh, shh, shh. 644 00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:45,804 You went up to my ex. 645 00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:47,873 You had a whole 15-minute conversation with him. 646 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,591 One, I would not talk to him for 15 minutes. 647 00:26:49,758 --> 00:26:51,977 I was like, "Oh, my God, I don't even wanna go over there 648 00:26:52,077 --> 00:26:53,445 "'cause that ex traumatized me." 649 00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,781 Then you come back up giggling, ha, ha, ha. 650 00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:57,749 "Oh, my God, him and his new girlfriend are getting 651 00:26:57,883 --> 00:26:59,751 "a dog together," the girl that he cheated on me with. 652 00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:01,220 And then you're laughing, and I go "Mia, what the fuck?" 653 00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:03,113 I reported back to you because you asked me 654 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,857 - to go see what was going on. - No, I didn't. No, I didn't. 655 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:06,825 Then I said, "Why the fuck did you go over there?" 656 00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:08,260 - Why would I go talk to him? - No, I didn't! 657 00:27:08,393 --> 00:27:09,895 You're lying. You're lying. 658 00:27:10,028 --> 00:27:11,897 Why would I go talk to some fucking 20-year-old dude? 659 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:13,765 - You're lying. You're lying. - Sitting with some other girl. 660 00:27:13,899 --> 00:27:15,234 Why would I even go ask him anything? 661 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,602 You were trying to instigate something. 662 00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:18,003 You were trying to start something. 663 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:19,805 Why would I try to start something? 664 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:21,406 I don't care! I don't care about you. 665 00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:23,300 I did not tell you to go to my ex. 666 00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:25,110 You cannot humiliate me 'cause I don't give a fuck about you. 667 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:26,411 I don't give a fuck about you either. 668 00:27:26,578 --> 00:27:28,580 Can you apologize to her and move on? 669 00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:30,415 I have already apologized to her about it. 670 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:31,800 No, you didn't! 671 00:27:31,967 --> 00:27:34,144 Roll the clip of us outside of Emo Night. 672 00:27:34,278 --> 00:27:35,287 Yes, I did. 673 00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:37,139 I feel badly that I talked to your ex. 674 00:27:37,306 --> 00:27:38,624 If you didn't like it, I'm sorry. 675 00:27:38,757 --> 00:27:40,117 I would never do that again. 676 00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:43,629 You going up to my ex in general was overstepping. 677 00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:45,430 - It was overstepping. - And I said I'm sorry. 678 00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:47,249 - And I'm sorry. - Okay. 679 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:50,602 Yeah, you were so fucked up. 680 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,137 Yeah, you couldn't even stand straight. 681 00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:54,239 If you apologized, I don't forgive you, bitch. 682 00:27:54,373 --> 00:27:55,499 Wow. 683 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,594 - MIA: And then now what? - ANDY: Okay, well, then-- 684 00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:00,045 Oh, boom! Boom! You said-- 685 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,381 Boom, you said I don't forgive you. I don't care. 686 00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:04,850 ANDY: So, at Joe's 30th birthday party, 687 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:07,920 things got feisty between Mia and Lake. 688 00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:09,454 You said it to my face. 689 00:28:09,621 --> 00:28:12,524 Do not fucking touch me. Do not fucking touch me, bitch. 690 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,326 Do not fucking touch me, bitch. 691 00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:17,329 Any regrets after seeing that evening playback? 692 00:28:17,496 --> 00:28:19,690 Damn, I regret not slapping you. 693 00:28:19,823 --> 00:28:21,191 ANDY: You regret not-- 694 00:28:21,325 --> 00:28:23,468 Lake, you're being mean, girl. You just accused-- 695 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,571 You guys were talking about how I'm immature... 696 00:28:25,671 --> 00:28:26,838 MIA: You had your chance to slap me. 697 00:28:26,972 --> 00:28:28,206 ...how I held my head down. 698 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:29,958 Now my head's up and I'm looking at you. 699 00:28:30,025 --> 00:28:32,678 No, you're not. No, you're not. What, did you stand 700 00:28:32,811 --> 00:28:34,313 in the mirror and rehearse that fucking line? 701 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:36,014 - I'm ready and I'm prepared-- - Yeah, sounds like it. 702 00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:37,849 Your last two brain cells rubbing out like this. 703 00:28:37,983 --> 00:28:39,301 - I will fucking fight it out. - All right, all right! 704 00:28:39,368 --> 00:28:40,519 Dumbass. 705 00:28:40,652 --> 00:28:42,454 Dumbass? Bitch, I'm smarter than you. 706 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:44,990 - Don't even start. - I don't know about that one. 707 00:28:45,123 --> 00:28:48,560 Guys, I think that Lake has more sensitive feelings. 708 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:50,596 I think the two of you are very good at 709 00:28:50,696 --> 00:28:52,389 - disassociating any feelings. - Whos' the two-- It's me. 710 00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:54,666 - It's you and Molly. - You and Molly dissociate-- 711 00:28:54,833 --> 00:28:56,385 There's a lot more emotions on this side of the couch. 712 00:28:56,551 --> 00:28:58,053 Because she wants to be you so bad. 713 00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:00,005 Why don't you see it? It's like looking in a mirror. 714 00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:02,774 I think the reason you're saying that is because we are similar. 715 00:29:02,874 --> 00:29:05,844 We are both very, very strong individuals, and you don't 716 00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:09,014 have an identity outside of someone else's opinion. 717 00:29:09,147 --> 00:29:10,849 - That's not true. - That's not true at all. 718 00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,986 Do you not see my art career, how I am as a person? 719 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,071 - Art career? - Yes. 720 00:29:16,238 --> 00:29:17,489 MOLLY: What is one thing-- 721 00:29:17,623 --> 00:29:19,558 LAKE: Do not comment on my career, bitch. 722 00:29:19,691 --> 00:29:21,226 You got fired for a reason. 723 00:29:21,393 --> 00:29:24,196 ANDY: Molly, you've been vocal about how triggering it is 724 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,683 to have your appearance scrutinized, so when Lake 725 00:29:27,749 --> 00:29:30,869 called you and Mia "fake bitches with fake titties"... 726 00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:33,605 My tits aren't fake, by the way. They're just reduced. 727 00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:36,508 So it's, you know. That was crazy. 728 00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:38,410 LAKE: Molly has talked shit about me around town. 729 00:29:38,543 --> 00:29:40,212 She even got kicked out of a section 730 00:29:40,345 --> 00:29:42,773 because she was talking shit to my friends. 731 00:29:42,939 --> 00:29:44,441 Don't you all talk shit about each other? 732 00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:46,076 We all talk shit about each other. 733 00:29:46,209 --> 00:29:47,519 Nobody in this room is innocent. 734 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:49,921 - Exactly. - So, Lake and Mia, 735 00:29:50,055 --> 00:29:53,091 you two are in a bad place, and... 736 00:29:53,258 --> 00:29:54,785 - LAKE: Well-- - After watching what 737 00:29:54,951 --> 00:29:56,286 she said about me, yes. 738 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,499 Okay. All right. Um, I am gonna move on. 739 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,602 This summer, both Molly and Mia found themselves 740 00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:05,729 single and ready to mingle. 741 00:30:05,796 --> 00:30:08,573 Gia from Albany said, "It feels like there's something more 742 00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:12,210 "behind Mia's breakup. Troy was the love of her life. 743 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:14,980 "They broke up over a three-hour drive? 744 00:30:15,113 --> 00:30:16,448 "Is there more to the story?" 745 00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:18,016 It's just that he just wouldn't commit. 746 00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:19,968 I also wouldn't commit to moving to Charlotte. 747 00:30:20,135 --> 00:30:21,620 - Do you still see him? - Yeah. 748 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:24,289 We, like, still mingle and talk, but I don't think 749 00:30:24,423 --> 00:30:26,458 I can commit myself to dating him 750 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:27,993 if he doesn't come to Charleston. 751 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,762 I mean, if he's the love of your life... 752 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,097 - Uh-huh. - BRAD: Yeah. 753 00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:34,099 No, you-- Okay, you tell me what-- 754 00:30:34,232 --> 00:30:37,169 how that-- how I navigate marriage in that situation, 755 00:30:37,302 --> 00:30:38,937 in living three hours from each other. 756 00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:40,639 - Doesn't have to be marriage. - ANDY: If he's the love of 757 00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:42,174 - your life, could you go there? - We're gonna get married 758 00:30:42,274 --> 00:30:43,642 - at some point. Huh? - Could you go there? 759 00:30:43,809 --> 00:30:45,243 I don't like it. No, I hate Charlotte. 760 00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:48,847 I have such an intense friend group in Charleston. 761 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:51,450 I've established myself. I love it there. 762 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:53,952 Why can't you just live in both places? 763 00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:55,846 I think it's important to know that he just got a promotion 764 00:30:56,012 --> 00:30:57,689 that allows him to have a little bit more freedom, 765 00:30:57,856 --> 00:30:59,391 so I think these things are finally in the works. 766 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:00,851 The story might be changing a bit soon. 767 00:31:01,017 --> 00:31:02,686 I'm still waiting for him to figure it out. 768 00:31:02,853 --> 00:31:04,896 - Damn, I didn't know that. - But did you not cheat on him? 769 00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:07,699 - That's what I heard. - Oh! 770 00:31:13,221 --> 00:31:15,098 [tense music] 771 00:31:15,198 --> 00:31:16,833 Did you not cheat on him? 772 00:31:19,678 --> 00:31:21,313 - No, I never cheated on him. - No! 773 00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:22,948 Um, yes, you did. 774 00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:24,875 - MIA: When did I cheat on him? - My friend told me. 775 00:31:25,041 --> 00:31:26,601 - Who's your friend? - Who's your friend? 776 00:31:26,701 --> 00:31:28,186 - He doesn't wanna be named. - Of course he doesn't. 777 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,988 - But he told me that... - The guy in the sky. 778 00:31:30,122 --> 00:31:32,824 ...he had sex with you right before you went to Hawaii. 779 00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:35,694 I'm leaving for Hawaii on Thursday. 780 00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:38,964 - Two weeks with my boo. - Uh, is anything gonna happen? 781 00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:41,032 I mean, if I get proposed to, I'm gonna say yes. 782 00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,335 - It's not true. - MICHOLS: And you also lied 783 00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:45,470 about fucking West, and I have the DMs of your sister texting 784 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,172 me in the morning looking for you in New York City. 785 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:48,632 When have I ever lied about that? 786 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,175 - You did. - I just said there was 787 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:53,044 - no romantic connection. - I also said that in the press. 788 00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,514 - Yeah, but you lied about it. - When did I lie? 789 00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:56,948 You even told Salley Carson to fuck him 790 00:31:57,048 --> 00:31:58,350 because the dick was so good. 791 00:31:58,517 --> 00:32:00,085 I didn't tell Salley Carson that. 792 00:32:00,252 --> 00:32:01,653 - You 1,000% did. - She was gonna fuck him 793 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:03,188 - no matter what. - You 1,000% did. 794 00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:05,023 I was there when you told her that. 795 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:08,218 [all laughing, exclaiming] 796 00:32:08,318 --> 00:32:09,694 You said West was worth it. 797 00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:11,263 I was sitting right there. 798 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,089 Oh. My bad. 799 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:15,867 No, but the thing is, I've never cheated on Troy. 800 00:32:16,034 --> 00:32:17,969 If I did, I would say it. I don't really care. 801 00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:20,872 Maybe my friend's timeline is messed up, but I trust him. 802 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,175 He went to my house and he was like, "Lake, 803 00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:26,845 "oh, my gosh, I had sex with Mia around, like, June or May." 804 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:28,547 Around Hawaii, when I broke up with him? 805 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,816 - Like, June or May. - No. Never. 806 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,442 I think you were single when that-- 807 00:32:32,609 --> 00:32:34,052 - Yeah, I was. Yes. - Well, so if you were single, 808 00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:35,554 - what does it matter? - Exactly. 809 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,506 I thought you broke up after Hawaii, though. 810 00:32:37,606 --> 00:32:38,957 - We did break up after Hawaii. - They did not sleep together. 811 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,058 - That was in July. - Yeah. 812 00:32:40,225 --> 00:32:41,760 If she fucked him May/June, 813 00:32:41,927 --> 00:32:44,629 - she was still dating Troy. - But I met him after July. 814 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:46,756 - No. No, honey. - Yes, I did. 815 00:32:46,857 --> 00:32:48,300 Yes, I did. Listen, I was single. 816 00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:50,185 I was there the night they met. She was single. 817 00:32:50,285 --> 00:32:52,270 - See? She was there. - You're not denying 818 00:32:52,437 --> 00:32:53,864 - having sex with this guy. - No, no. 819 00:32:53,964 --> 00:32:55,474 You're just saying you didn't cheat on... 820 00:32:55,607 --> 00:32:56,842 - No, I didn't cheat. - She definitely cheated. 821 00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:58,710 - She definitely cheated. - MIA: Try again. 822 00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:00,412 Try again. No, I didn't. 823 00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:03,139 ANDY: So, Mia, you went out with West a little bit. 824 00:33:03,306 --> 00:33:05,283 Where do you stand in what's going on... 825 00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:06,918 We had a great time. It was very nice. 826 00:33:07,052 --> 00:33:09,588 And, um, that's it. I feel bad for his situation now. 827 00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:11,323 Feel worse for Ciara. That sucks. 828 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:12,824 Did you guys have sex? 829 00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:14,059 - Yes, we had sex. - Yeah, she just admitted it. 830 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:15,552 What's wrong with you? What's-- 831 00:33:15,719 --> 00:33:17,095 Why do you wanna catch me in some sort of lie? 832 00:33:17,229 --> 00:33:18,597 - What's your beef? - Because you're a liar. 833 00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:20,048 - I mean, you do lie. - Huh? No, I'm not. 834 00:33:20,148 --> 00:33:22,300 ANDY: Okay, very good. Moving on. 835 00:33:22,434 --> 00:33:25,570 Maddi and Joe, congratulations on your puppy adoption. 836 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:27,506 - MADDI: Yes. - What's the puppy's name? 837 00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:28,890 JOE: His name's Ozzy. 838 00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:30,300 MADDI: He's like an emotional support animal, 839 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,060 and he's been my whole life. 840 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,912 Yeah. We came up with it when we were watching The Osbournes. 841 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,614 - MADDI: He's our son. - ANDY: Oh, cute. 842 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,649 So since the two of you don't live together, 843 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:39,084 how does that work? 844 00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:41,620 - I mean, like... - I haven't slept in my house 845 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,889 in two and a half months. 846 00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,590 - ANDY: Okay. - JOE: So... 847 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:47,576 I think we're finally getting to that stage where it's like, 848 00:33:47,676 --> 00:33:49,895 "All right, why am I paying rent somewhere else? Let's move in." 849 00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:53,431 So do you still have hesitations about Joe moving in? 850 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:55,525 You expressed that in the past. 851 00:33:55,659 --> 00:33:57,752 At what point do we move in together? 852 00:33:57,852 --> 00:34:00,672 I don't think we need to make that decision right now. 853 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:03,708 It's almost, like, too fast for me. 854 00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:06,578 That is something we talk about. 855 00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:08,580 The thing is I'm trying to buy a home, 856 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,949 and it's a difficult process. 857 00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,084 Are you thinking about buying something together? 858 00:34:13,184 --> 00:34:15,220 - No, I would buy it. - That would be stupid. 859 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:17,055 I mean, like, of course we'd like that, 860 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:20,125 but more so she's in a better position than me financially 861 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:22,444 right now to buy a home, and instead of paying rent 862 00:34:22,544 --> 00:34:24,663 to someone else, I would chip in for the mortgage, obviously. 863 00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:26,731 Yeah. We're not married yet, so... 864 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,234 - Yes. - Yeah. I feel like it's steps. 865 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:32,404 Like, the dog was a great first step, getting Ozzy. 866 00:34:32,537 --> 00:34:34,506 Then the moving in. 867 00:34:34,673 --> 00:34:36,474 Then the marriage and stuff. 868 00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:40,679 What is the status of your egg-freezing journey? 869 00:34:40,812 --> 00:34:45,550 Oh, I did freeze my eggs, and it was super empowering. 870 00:34:45,717 --> 00:34:47,577 - Good for you. That's great. - It was amazing, 871 00:34:47,744 --> 00:34:50,522 and it definitely, like-- Just need my own timeline, 872 00:34:50,689 --> 00:34:53,091 and I get to, like, not freak out about that. 873 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:55,894 Grace Lilly, what's your take on this? 874 00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,529 Just have sex three times a day. 875 00:34:57,662 --> 00:34:59,222 - Is that your advice? - I'm not trying to get pregnant 876 00:34:59,322 --> 00:35:00,824 - right now. - I mean, there's nothing wrong 877 00:35:00,991 --> 00:35:02,559 with having sex three times a day. 878 00:35:02,659 --> 00:35:04,152 - That's why she froze them. - That's why I froze them. 879 00:35:04,252 --> 00:35:06,488 You never know. I was a genetic explosion. 880 00:35:06,588 --> 00:35:08,331 - [laughter] - It just happened. 881 00:35:08,498 --> 00:35:09,933 That's what my parents say. 882 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:11,710 - Genetic explosion. - That makes so much sense. 883 00:35:11,876 --> 00:35:16,047 So, Joe, your reaction when you heard Maddi say 884 00:35:16,181 --> 00:35:19,075 she wouldn't wanna waste her eggs 885 00:35:19,175 --> 00:35:21,486 combining them with your sperm at this point? 886 00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:24,189 What if Joe and I don't get married or work out? 887 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:29,210 Then I'm wasting my eggs on some other guy's sperm, right? 888 00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:32,897 Yeah, I mean, obviously, like... 889 00:35:33,031 --> 00:35:35,400 that sucks to hear, because, like, part of me is like, 890 00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:37,469 "Oh, she's freezing her eggs, so, you know, 891 00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:39,070 "she can see a future with me." 892 00:35:39,237 --> 00:35:41,573 - I think that was like... - Yeah, but I might only get 893 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,309 one baby out of those eggs they got. 894 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,311 That's unfair for women, because they only 895 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:48,413 get so many eggs, and you guys have so much sperm. 896 00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:49,981 - Right. - So it's an unfair thing 897 00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:51,541 for any man to expect a woman 898 00:35:51,708 --> 00:35:55,253 to just, like-- like, one-off her egg to him 899 00:35:55,353 --> 00:35:57,789 until there is a marriage and a ring. You know what I mean? 900 00:35:57,889 --> 00:35:59,382 I think I need to put my ego aside. 901 00:35:59,482 --> 00:36:01,026 - Just in her defense. - I need to put my ego aside 902 00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:03,862 in this situation, because this is her journey. 903 00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:05,230 Women should keep their eggs. 904 00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:06,564 JOE: These are her eggs. This is her body. 905 00:36:06,631 --> 00:36:09,134 - Yeah. - ANDY: Um, Joe, it came out 906 00:36:09,234 --> 00:36:11,703 at the end of the season that Molly had a conversation 907 00:36:11,803 --> 00:36:14,164 with Maddi, uh, where Maddi said 908 00:36:14,297 --> 00:36:16,574 she doesn't see herself marrying you. 909 00:36:16,674 --> 00:36:18,243 What was your reaction to that? 910 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:21,613 Yeah, I really wanna get to the bottom of that, because... 911 00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:24,407 - She said that to your face? - Yes, 100%. 912 00:36:24,574 --> 00:36:26,151 - I did not. - MOLLY: And then followed up-- 913 00:36:26,317 --> 00:36:28,586 Like, you are-- you have a real bad lying problem. 914 00:36:28,753 --> 00:36:31,122 I never said I'm not going to marry him, or 915 00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:33,683 - I'm never going to marry him. - You did. 916 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:36,761 That's a fucking compulsive lie. I never said that. 917 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,922 No, you said you didn't see yourself marrying him. 918 00:36:39,022 --> 00:36:40,498 You wanna break the generational cycle. 919 00:36:40,665 --> 00:36:42,267 You don't wanna marry a town drunk. 920 00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:43,935 I was vulnerable about that on the show. I opened up about 921 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,437 all those things. You went on a podcast and said, 922 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,330 "Maddi doesn't share her relationship." 923 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:49,974 I share my relationship more than anyone on the show. 924 00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:51,601 They asked me about your relationship and I said, 925 00:36:51,768 --> 00:36:53,311 "I don't know. They don't share it with me." 926 00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:55,113 And so then why are you commenting about it 927 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:56,765 - if I don't share it with you? - 'Cause they asked her 928 00:36:56,865 --> 00:36:58,183 - a question! - They asked me a question. 929 00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:00,618 No, you told Mia and TJ at a lunch. 930 00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:02,787 I didn't tell Mia what Maddi said, 931 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,047 so you need to tell her. 932 00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:05,390 - Oh, okay. - MIA: Tell me. 933 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:07,225 So, I was like, "How are you and Joe?" 934 00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:09,160 She goes, "Well, I don't see myself, like, marrying him." 935 00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:12,814 - She said that? - She 100% said this to me. 936 00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:15,333 No one asked you anything. 937 00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:17,135 TJ and Mia didn't ask you anything. 938 00:37:17,302 --> 00:37:19,195 It was a convers-- Wait, you're not following this, mama. 939 00:37:19,295 --> 00:37:21,673 - You gotta-- - Let her talk. Let them talk. 940 00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:23,733 - She's pretty straightforward. - Stop gaslighting. 941 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:25,643 That's your thing. You like to gaslight. 942 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:27,112 You make the little faces. 943 00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:28,746 MIA: She's talking about the podcast, then she's 944 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,181 - talking about a lunch-- - Okay, let them talk. 945 00:37:30,315 --> 00:37:31,783 So wait, no. So when did she tell you that? 946 00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:33,151 I will say... 947 00:37:33,318 --> 00:37:34,836 Try not to lie. 948 00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:43,144 [tense music] 949 00:37:43,244 --> 00:37:45,363 I never said I'm never going to marry Joe. 950 00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:47,198 You did say that. 951 00:37:47,332 --> 00:37:49,651 So wait, no. So when did she tell you that? 952 00:37:49,751 --> 00:37:52,061 - I will say... - Try not to lie. 953 00:37:52,228 --> 00:37:53,872 - I never said that. - Why would I make that up? 954 00:37:54,038 --> 00:37:55,657 - I don't know you like that. - I confided in you about 955 00:37:55,757 --> 00:37:58,902 his drinking. Do you think I would be wasting my time 956 00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:01,496 in a relationship on my biological clock 957 00:38:01,596 --> 00:38:02,939 with someone I don't wanna marry? 958 00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:04,999 Wait. Are you guys listening to each other? 959 00:38:05,099 --> 00:38:07,243 She said you said, "At this time, 960 00:38:07,377 --> 00:38:09,921 "I'm not ready to marry Joe." - At that time. 961 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:15,118 That's vastly different than "I do not see myself marrying Joe." 962 00:38:15,218 --> 00:38:17,695 - That's different. - Okay. So Molly, 963 00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:20,790 what did she say to you at the lunch? 964 00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:22,567 She doesn't see herself marrying him. 965 00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:24,235 She wants to break a generational cycle. 966 00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:26,070 This is before all of your conversations with him. 967 00:38:26,204 --> 00:38:28,965 I would say it's a completely different mindset now. 968 00:38:29,132 --> 00:38:32,577 But "at this time" is different than "I will not marry Joe." 969 00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:34,045 On the show, you said never. 970 00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,472 Yes, and TJ said that too! 971 00:38:36,573 --> 00:38:40,151 - That Molly said that. - I was also hammered. 972 00:38:50,979 --> 00:38:52,547 And so I just think you need to be careful 973 00:38:52,647 --> 00:38:54,157 - of how you say things. - That's a hiccup on my part. 974 00:38:54,324 --> 00:38:55,458 - 'Cause you twist words. - That's not what I meant. 975 00:38:55,592 --> 00:38:57,669 ANDY: Okay. So I am curious-- 976 00:38:57,836 --> 00:38:59,996 I am curious who here 977 00:39:00,129 --> 00:39:02,223 thinks Joe takes the relationship 978 00:39:02,323 --> 00:39:04,267 more seriously than Maddi? 979 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,144 - Me. - You do? 980 00:39:06,244 --> 00:39:07,562 I'm out. 981 00:39:07,662 --> 00:39:09,772 I think the thing is in their relationship, 982 00:39:09,906 --> 00:39:11,482 Maddi pushes him to do more. 983 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,318 - Yeah. - And so I think Maddi... 984 00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:14,852 not necessarily wears the pants. 985 00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:16,279 That's not the verbiage I want to use. 986 00:39:16,446 --> 00:39:17,680 But she keeps him accountable. 987 00:39:17,847 --> 00:39:19,557 I also push her and keep her accountable. 988 00:39:19,657 --> 00:39:21,059 Yeah, you do. 100%. 989 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,119 Can I say something, like, regarding-- 990 00:39:23,253 --> 00:39:25,129 The shit-talking with this group's got to stop 991 00:39:25,296 --> 00:39:26,623 if we're ever gonna move forward. 992 00:39:26,756 --> 00:39:28,191 I've fallen in love with this group, 993 00:39:28,358 --> 00:39:30,093 and, like, Republic and Charleston with you guys. 994 00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:32,528 It's a fact that we can have fun, but I don't want it to get 995 00:39:32,629 --> 00:39:34,364 to the point where we're not having fun anymore. 996 00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:36,666 I think at some point you guys need to pick the people that 997 00:39:36,833 --> 00:39:39,469 you want to have a friendship with, and work towards that. 998 00:39:39,602 --> 00:39:41,913 And a lot of it, it's like, you guys are really upset. 999 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:45,416 I know Joe misses his boys. I know Brad is so deeply hurt. 1000 00:39:45,516 --> 00:39:48,186 I know she's so deeply upset and feeling alone. 1001 00:39:48,353 --> 00:39:49,687 Over here, she wants support, 1002 00:39:49,854 --> 00:39:51,589 but she isn't sure how to ask for it. 1003 00:39:51,689 --> 00:39:54,025 These are decade friendships, 1004 00:39:54,192 --> 00:39:56,519 and there's people who navigate friendship differently. 1005 00:39:56,653 --> 00:39:58,496 These are high-feeling people. 1006 00:39:58,596 --> 00:40:00,949 These are not super high-feeling people. 1007 00:40:01,049 --> 00:40:03,192 These are people able to compartmentalize 1008 00:40:03,326 --> 00:40:04,786 and sort of logically move forward. 1009 00:40:04,886 --> 00:40:07,105 These are people who wear their heart on their sleeve. 1010 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,974 It clashes. It doesn't mean they don't care about each other. 1011 00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:12,343 They communicate vastly differently, right? 1012 00:40:12,443 --> 00:40:15,780 There is a lot of love here, and I think that everyone needs 1013 00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:17,982 to work on their individual relationships. 1014 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:21,452 That is a great thought to move you guys forward. 1015 00:40:21,552 --> 00:40:24,188 I know there's still a long way to go, 1016 00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:27,358 but it feels like we got through a lot of emotion tonight. 1017 00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:31,596 Emmy, are Brad and TJ still axed as groomsmen? 1018 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:34,032 - Yeah. - Duh. 1019 00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:35,867 [laughs] That's-- 1020 00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:37,969 - Yes. - ANDY: Right. It might take 1021 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:40,229 more than a reunion to get you there. 1022 00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:41,973 So Brad, what's the first thing you're gonna do 1023 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:43,599 when you leave tonight? 1024 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:45,176 Kiss my girlfriend in the mouth. 1025 00:40:45,343 --> 00:40:46,569 - In the mouth? - In the mouth. 1026 00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:47,996 In the mouth. Not on the mouth. 1027 00:40:48,096 --> 00:40:49,614 - In the mouth. - In the mouth. 1028 00:40:49,781 --> 00:40:52,775 Okay. TJ, are you still looking at doing 1029 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,544 a brick and mortar Sir Wieners? 1030 00:40:54,677 --> 00:40:56,245 Yeah, it has been in the discussion. 1031 00:40:56,379 --> 00:40:58,423 I've had some convos with Lamar. 1032 00:40:58,589 --> 00:41:00,216 But yeah, we'll see what happens next. 1033 00:41:00,350 --> 00:41:03,094 Leva, what surprised you the most about today? 1034 00:41:03,261 --> 00:41:04,996 Everyone is a lot more vulnerable than I thought 1035 00:41:05,096 --> 00:41:06,422 that they were capable of being. 1036 00:41:06,589 --> 00:41:08,624 Yeah, it was a lot of emotion tonight. 1037 00:41:08,725 --> 00:41:09,901 - LEVA: Yeah. - ANDY: I hope you all 1038 00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:11,869 can go into the summer... 1039 00:41:12,036 --> 00:41:13,738 - A little more healed. - Yeah. 1040 00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:17,475 Well, it is a tradition to end the reunion with a toast, 1041 00:41:17,642 --> 00:41:20,470 and I think I know exactly what this group needs. 1042 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:23,247 Bring out the weenies and the 'tinis. 1043 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,366 - MICHOLS: Wow. - What a treat. 1044 00:41:25,466 --> 00:41:27,018 ANDY: Yes. Oh, here we go. 1045 00:41:27,118 --> 00:41:30,254 Grace, Maddi, and Emmy have mocktails. 1046 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:34,083 Leva, I think you should toast us out of this season. 1047 00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:35,893 I mean, listen, guys, this is, like, 1048 00:41:35,994 --> 00:41:38,196 supposed to be the time of your lives. 1049 00:41:38,296 --> 00:41:39,589 You're young, and this is when 1050 00:41:39,722 --> 00:41:41,366 you make your most core friendships. 1051 00:41:41,466 --> 00:41:44,127 You won't meet these new people in adulthood. 1052 00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:45,770 So, it's worth it to hold on. 1053 00:41:45,937 --> 00:41:48,106 It's worth it to fight for these friendships. 1054 00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:49,724 - ANDY: Cheers. - Cheers. 1055 00:41:49,824 --> 00:41:51,501 - Well said. - Cheers, everyone. 1056 00:41:51,601 --> 00:41:53,378 Cheers to bringing the fun back. 1057 00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:55,171 ANDY: See you all at Republic. 1058 00:41:55,271 --> 00:41:57,231 - Welcome to the family. - I love you. 1059 00:41:57,331 --> 00:41:59,275 - Michols! - It's okay. 1060 00:41:59,409 --> 00:42:01,402 ANDY: Good job, everybody. I wanna thank Leva 1061 00:42:01,502 --> 00:42:02,887 and the gang from Republic 1062 00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:06,949 for another dramatic season of Southern Hospitality. 1063 00:42:07,083 --> 00:42:09,060 Cheers, everybody. I'm Andy Cohen. 1064 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,746 For more, click around Bravo TV. 1065 00:42:11,846 --> 00:42:14,465 - Cheers! - And Peacock. 1066 00:42:14,565 --> 00:42:16,025 - Cheers. - Good God. 1067 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,935 The martini's got me feeling wavy baby. 1068 00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:20,238 - [laughs] - I love it. 1069 00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:22,165 CREW: I'm gonna ask everyone to 1070 00:42:22,331 --> 00:42:24,242 - to step off the stage. - ALL: Thank you. 1071 00:42:24,342 --> 00:42:25,793 [cheering] 1072 00:42:32,108 --> 00:42:33,451 - BRAD: Yeah! - Okay. Oh, my God. 1073 00:42:33,584 --> 00:42:34,769 I was never against that. 1074 00:42:34,869 --> 00:42:36,487 - LAKE: Okay, we're good. - Good? 1075 00:42:36,621 --> 00:42:37,814 Friends. 1076 00:42:37,947 --> 00:42:39,290 CREW: All right, that's a wrap out here, guys. 1077 00:42:39,424 --> 00:42:41,142 We're done rolling sound.