1 00:00:03,837 --> 00:00:07,774 Tonight, the "Southern Hospitality" gang reunites. 2 00:00:07,775 --> 00:00:10,643 If I was Shotty, I would be kind of pissed. 3 00:00:10,644 --> 00:00:11,911 Like, shut the up. 4 00:00:11,912 --> 00:00:13,613 Friendships are tested. 5 00:00:13,614 --> 00:00:15,915 A lot of things you said were a nightmare. 6 00:00:15,916 --> 00:00:16,916 I was hurt. 7 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:18,051 She just found out last night. 8 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:19,419 I found out last night. 9 00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:21,788 The group demands answers about Will and Emmy. 10 00:00:21,789 --> 00:00:22,789 When Will was-- 11 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:23,890 I was calculated. 12 00:00:23,891 --> 00:00:24,891 Why is it Will that's calculated? 13 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:25,892 She started screaming. 14 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,662 Will Emmy continue to stand by her man? 15 00:00:29,663 --> 00:00:32,232 No normal person is supposed to go through this. 16 00:00:32,233 --> 00:00:33,900 You're like a pawn in their game right now. 17 00:00:33,901 --> 00:00:36,603 I believe the girl that just saw Bob Marley and Jesus. 18 00:00:36,604 --> 00:00:37,737 I mean, I saw that. 19 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:39,706 The newbies don't hold back. 20 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:41,007 You want me to be so for real? 21 00:00:41,008 --> 00:00:42,008 - Be so for real. - Yes, I would love that. 22 00:00:42,009 --> 00:00:43,076 OK. 23 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:44,178 I feel like he's calculating and 24 00:00:45,012 --> 00:00:45,745 manipulating these situations. 25 00:00:45,746 --> 00:00:46,679 Y'all did something. 26 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,148 Oh, she and I had a moment. 27 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:50,517 All the drama that went down after the season ended 28 00:00:50,518 --> 00:00:52,319 I thought they were my friends. 29 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,187 The "Southern Hospitality" reunion-- 30 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:56,723 Are you coming out tonight? 31 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:58,591 starts now. 32 00:00:58,592 --> 00:01:01,661 Hey, everybody, welcome to the "Southern Hospitality" 33 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:03,696 season three reunion. 34 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:07,134 I'm Andy Cohen here after the explosive prom night finale 35 00:01:07,135 --> 00:01:09,202 with an after party you don't want to miss. 36 00:01:09,203 --> 00:01:11,138 We got the gang back together tonight, 37 00:01:11,139 --> 00:01:14,707 and there's a lot from this season we need to discuss. 38 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:17,044 I want to jump right in and introduce 39 00:01:17,145 --> 00:01:18,778 the gang from Republic. 40 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:20,347 Hey, Leva. - Hi, Andy. 41 00:01:20,348 --> 00:01:21,814 - How are you doing? - Good. 42 00:01:21,815 --> 00:01:24,217 Long time no see. 43 00:01:24,218 --> 00:01:25,385 How are you doing, Joe Bradley? 44 00:01:25,386 --> 00:01:26,486 I'm amazing. It's good to be back-- 45 00:01:26,487 --> 00:01:27,720 Really? 46 00:01:27,721 --> 00:01:28,588 It's good to be back in the clubhouse. 47 00:01:28,589 --> 00:01:29,789 Yeah. - Yes. 48 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:31,291 Me and Joe have the same hair today. 49 00:01:31,292 --> 00:01:32,359 I know, you do have the same-- 50 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,626 No. 51 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:34,861 I just have a little floof at the bottom. 52 00:01:34,862 --> 00:01:36,529 Hey, Maddi. 53 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:37,697 - How are you? - I'm great. 54 00:01:37,698 --> 00:01:38,798 How are you today? - Good. 55 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:40,167 A little under the weather, but-- 56 00:01:40,168 --> 00:01:41,401 - OK. - we're good. 57 00:01:41,402 --> 00:01:42,835 We're good. - OK, I'm glad you're here. 58 00:01:42,836 --> 00:01:44,337 TJ, how are you doing? - I'm doing good. 59 00:01:44,338 --> 00:01:45,605 - Good to see you. - You too. 60 00:01:45,606 --> 00:01:46,706 Hey, Bradley. 61 00:01:46,707 --> 00:01:48,508 - Hi, how are you? - How are you? 62 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:49,742 - I'm doing phenomenal. - Excellent. 63 00:01:49,743 --> 00:01:51,444 - Outstanding. - Excellent. 64 00:01:51,445 --> 00:01:52,445 Hi, Mia. 65 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:53,513 - Hi, how are you? - Great. 66 00:01:53,514 --> 00:01:54,514 Good. 67 00:01:54,515 --> 00:01:55,915 No Miss World? 68 00:01:55,916 --> 00:01:58,485 No, just a washed up beauty queen. 69 00:01:58,486 --> 00:02:00,753 No, no. 70 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,822 Adding it to the resume, but-- 71 00:02:02,823 --> 00:02:04,491 Hey, wavy baby. 72 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:05,558 Hello, Andy Cohen. 73 00:02:05,559 --> 00:02:06,559 How are you doing? 74 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,927 I'm doing fabulous. 75 00:02:07,928 --> 00:02:10,263 I'm feeling very wavy baby, and grateful to be here. 76 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:11,631 Thank you so much for having me. 77 00:02:11,632 --> 00:02:13,100 I'm glad. Hi, Lake. 78 00:02:13,201 --> 00:02:14,066 Hi, Andy. 79 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:15,202 It's so good to see you. 80 00:02:15,203 --> 00:02:16,836 It's so good to see you as well. 81 00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:18,338 - Love your dress. - Thank you. 82 00:02:18,339 --> 00:02:20,240 - Not many can pull that off. - Period. 83 00:02:20,241 --> 00:02:21,308 And you can. 84 00:02:21,309 --> 00:02:22,542 Hey, Michols. 85 00:02:22,543 --> 00:02:23,676 - Hi, Andy. - How are you? 86 00:02:23,677 --> 00:02:24,944 I'm amazing. How are you? 87 00:02:24,945 --> 00:02:27,314 I'm great. 88 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:28,315 Hey, Emmy. 89 00:02:28,316 --> 00:02:29,482 Hi, Andy. 90 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:31,218 - Good to see you. - Good to see you. 91 00:02:31,219 --> 00:02:32,319 - Hey, Austin. - Hello. 92 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Everything good? 93 00:02:35,088 --> 00:02:36,523 Hi, Molly. 94 00:02:36,524 --> 00:02:38,491 Hi, I'm happy to be with a fellow St. Louis native. 95 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:39,826 Oh, no way. 96 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:41,361 Right next to the arch. - I know, I feel at home. 97 00:02:41,362 --> 00:02:42,462 There you go. 98 00:02:42,463 --> 00:02:44,096 Obviously, someone is missing. 99 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:45,865 Will came here today. 100 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:47,600 He's backstage. 101 00:02:47,601 --> 00:02:49,936 Last minute, he made a conscious decision 102 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:51,003 not to join us. 103 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:53,506 Emmy, can you tell us why? 104 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:57,277 I think right now for Will, you know, he's here 105 00:02:57,278 --> 00:02:59,111 to support me, he loves me. 106 00:02:59,112 --> 00:03:02,882 But I just don't think that he can continue 107 00:03:02,883 --> 00:03:06,853 to entertain and engage with this group 108 00:03:06,854 --> 00:03:09,422 any longer to this capacity. 109 00:03:09,423 --> 00:03:12,359 So he's quitting the show? 110 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,960 He actually hasn't said that. 111 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,462 Funny enough. 112 00:03:15,463 --> 00:03:17,964 But he just has said that he just can't do this reunion. 113 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:19,432 He just can't. 114 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:21,834 I mean, it's interesting, though, because you spent 115 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:26,138 the season kind of having to defend your relationship 116 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:29,442 and defend his behavior. 117 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:32,279 And now you're out here alone. 118 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,947 I feel kind of like you're on an island. 119 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:35,948 I feel bad. 120 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:38,185 I mean, I think I've just-- 121 00:03:38,286 --> 00:03:39,452 my head's very clear today. 122 00:03:39,453 --> 00:03:40,553 Good. 123 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:42,522 I'm very calm, cool, and collected. 124 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:45,992 I think, physically, it's been literally 125 00:03:45,993 --> 00:03:49,529 not having Will near me or in the same state as me. 126 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:52,932 I don't want to diminish his love for me just because he's 127 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,133 not here to say it himself. 128 00:03:54,134 --> 00:03:55,502 I would love for Will to be here because I 129 00:03:55,503 --> 00:03:57,737 would love to talk to him. 130 00:03:57,738 --> 00:03:59,639 Maddi. 131 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,773 - It's OK. - It's OK. 132 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:01,774 It's all right. 133 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:03,311 Last night, Will-- 134 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:08,715 He came to our hotel room. 135 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:09,849 OK. 136 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:12,319 And I think that part of me feels 137 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,120 like it was a little selfish for you guys, the night 138 00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:15,355 before the reunion, to come over 139 00:04:15,356 --> 00:04:16,689 here and spill all that when you've known 140 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:17,990 about it for all this time. 141 00:04:17,991 --> 00:04:19,191 What was spilled? 142 00:04:19,192 --> 00:04:20,693 In order to clear my name with Will, 143 00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:23,430 we had to tell Maddi the truth that Trevor never 144 00:04:23,431 --> 00:04:25,898 cheated on Sammy and that Brad made it all up, 145 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:28,735 and I printed out all the text messages between Brad 146 00:04:28,736 --> 00:04:29,836 and myself where-- 147 00:04:29,837 --> 00:04:31,070 That Trevor never cheated on-- 148 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,739 That Trevor never cheated on me with-- 149 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:34,341 - With Sammy. - Sammy. 150 00:04:34,342 --> 00:04:35,742 I didn't know he had a girlfriend. 151 00:04:35,743 --> 00:04:37,977 Did y'all make out? 152 00:04:37,978 --> 00:04:39,346 Yeah. 153 00:04:39,347 --> 00:04:40,780 Oh my god. 154 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:42,148 You're a liar. 155 00:04:42,149 --> 00:04:44,116 You told me she texted you, and you blew her off. 156 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:45,385 You're a liar. 157 00:04:45,386 --> 00:04:46,486 you. 158 00:04:46,487 --> 00:04:48,054 And last year-- 159 00:04:48,055 --> 00:04:51,691 The thing is I don't care about Trevor 160 00:04:51,692 --> 00:04:53,560 and I don't care about Sammy. 161 00:04:53,561 --> 00:04:55,428 That relationship was going to end anyway. 162 00:04:55,429 --> 00:04:56,663 OK. 163 00:04:56,664 --> 00:04:59,266 That's not why I'm upset. 164 00:04:59,367 --> 00:05:01,067 I'm upset because I've questioned 165 00:05:01,068 --> 00:05:02,201 if I'm a good person-- 166 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:03,202 You are a good person. 167 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:04,203 And everyone gaslit-- 168 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:05,838 everyday single day since. 169 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,010 And I feel like I don't know what's real anymore. 170 00:05:11,011 --> 00:05:12,211 OK. 171 00:05:12,212 --> 00:05:14,414 I mean, you need to say why you know this 172 00:05:14,415 --> 00:05:15,682 and why Will and you know this. 173 00:05:15,683 --> 00:05:17,183 Me and Will are not innocent. 174 00:05:17,184 --> 00:05:20,152 Everyone in the group knew that Trevor 175 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,689 had not cheated on Maddi and told her 176 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:24,957 that he had cheated on her. 177 00:05:24,958 --> 00:05:27,259 I knew that it did not happen. 178 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:28,595 - OK. - Yeah. 179 00:05:28,596 --> 00:05:29,596 I knew. 180 00:05:29,597 --> 00:05:32,198 So last year in April-- 181 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:33,433 It didn't happen. 182 00:05:33,434 --> 00:05:36,168 the information came to Brad that Sammy had-- 183 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:38,671 that Sammy and Trevor had an inappropriate interaction. 184 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:41,574 Trevor was never lying when he said that this girl made out 185 00:05:41,575 --> 00:05:42,709 with his friend at the bar. 186 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:43,876 Trevor was never lying when he said 187 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:45,111 he never made out with her. 188 00:05:45,112 --> 00:05:46,813 For the next month before we started-- 189 00:05:46,814 --> 00:05:49,616 They took advantage of the fact that he cheated on me once 190 00:05:49,617 --> 00:05:50,783 and I didn't trust him. 191 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:51,851 OK. 192 00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:54,053 And they took advantage of that. 193 00:05:54,054 --> 00:05:55,422 - Because in what world-- - Who's they? 194 00:05:55,423 --> 00:05:56,989 wouldn't I think that he wouldn't do it again? 195 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:59,859 I'm still asking you you, Will, and them two. 196 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:01,594 And they took advantage of the fact 197 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:04,664 that I didn't trust him because he cheated on me-- 198 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:05,932 He cheated on Maddi. 199 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:07,634 So why did they think that he wouldn't have 200 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:09,101 ever have done that again? 201 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:11,203 But like I said, it's not about him. 202 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:15,742 It's about me thinking that I have been a horrible person. 203 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:19,078 I have had the internet ripped me apart, I have people-- 204 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:20,947 Why did you think you were a horrible person 205 00:06:20,948 --> 00:06:22,281 because he cheated on you? 206 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:25,952 No, because I was put out like this liar, 207 00:06:25,953 --> 00:06:28,020 or like that I was invalidated. 208 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:29,556 It was really hard to watch. 209 00:06:29,557 --> 00:06:30,857 I was gaslit. 210 00:06:30,858 --> 00:06:33,526 So Brad and TJ, why were you part of this? 211 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:34,494 Go ahead, read it, please. 212 00:06:34,495 --> 00:06:35,595 I would love to-- 213 00:06:35,596 --> 00:06:36,896 So last year, before the reunion-- 214 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:37,897 Give it to Andy. 215 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:38,898 I am. 216 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:40,900 Last year before the reunion, TJ 217 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:42,735 was talking to Brad about how he 218 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:45,472 was going to out him for the Maddi and Trevor rumor, 219 00:06:45,473 --> 00:06:46,873 but then Joe happened to sleep with Luann. 220 00:06:46,874 --> 00:06:47,874 Yes. 221 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:49,041 And that took-- 222 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:50,309 made out with Luann. 223 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:51,844 So that took-- Joe And Luann had a moment-- 224 00:06:52,846 --> 00:06:54,180 and that took the story. 225 00:06:54,181 --> 00:06:55,181 Oh my god, a moment. 226 00:06:55,182 --> 00:06:56,315 These are the text messages-- 227 00:06:56,316 --> 00:06:57,550 - I would own up to it now. - So-- 228 00:06:57,551 --> 00:06:58,885 These are-- no. 229 00:06:58,886 --> 00:07:00,787 These are the text messages that Brad sent me, 230 00:07:00,788 --> 00:07:03,990 between him and TJ, where he goes, I think if I tell Maddi, 231 00:07:03,991 --> 00:07:05,091 our vacation is going to be weird 232 00:07:05,092 --> 00:07:06,358 and you're going to be mad at me. 233 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:09,361 And he goes, the more I think about this, 234 00:07:09,362 --> 00:07:12,231 the less I want to knowingly make myself look like . 235 00:07:12,232 --> 00:07:15,835 And then in response, I said to him, dude, 236 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:17,804 I would be honest and say, I'm not game for this 237 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:19,972 and you're obviously going to be stabbing me in the back. 238 00:07:19,973 --> 00:07:21,608 I haven't had the chance to say anything yet. 239 00:07:21,609 --> 00:07:22,609 OK, yes. 240 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:24,076 Brad, Brad, yes, please. 241 00:07:24,077 --> 00:07:25,978 I'm going to do something that Will has been able-- 242 00:07:25,979 --> 00:07:27,046 unable to do. 243 00:07:27,047 --> 00:07:28,280 I'm going to take accountability. 244 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:29,949 Maddi, here's what happened. 245 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:32,051 Sammy came to me as a client before-- well, before. 246 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:34,721 And two weeks before cameras picked up last year, 247 00:07:34,722 --> 00:07:36,288 and said that this happened. 248 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:38,425 I went with that because, at the time, we were not friends. 249 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:39,892 We were not cool. 250 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:41,528 I was like, OK, well, she said that they're cheating. 251 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:42,729 I'm like, say less. 252 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:44,230 That's enough for me. I'm cool with that. 253 00:07:44,231 --> 00:07:45,331 So I rode with that. 254 00:07:45,332 --> 00:07:46,533 I went into the season with that. 255 00:07:46,534 --> 00:07:48,400 I knew that two weeks before, and so I 256 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:49,902 went ahead and told them that. 257 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:51,871 As we got into the season, Sammie comes up to me 258 00:07:51,872 --> 00:07:52,872 and goes-- 259 00:07:52,873 --> 00:07:54,106 This is very important. 260 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:56,543 Brad, OK, making out didn't actually happen. 261 00:07:56,544 --> 00:07:58,277 I'm like oh, . 262 00:07:58,278 --> 00:08:01,113 , because what has already been in motion 263 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:02,114 has been put in motion. 264 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:03,182 I can't stop that. 265 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:04,617 That's cold as hell. 266 00:08:04,618 --> 00:08:05,818 And I'm sorry for that. 267 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:08,087 Maddi, this is not new information. 268 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:09,088 It's new to me! 269 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:10,089 I found out last night. 270 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:11,257 She just found out last night! 271 00:08:11,258 --> 00:08:12,259 - I found out last night! - I know! 272 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:14,426 I told her last night. 273 00:08:14,427 --> 00:08:15,795 You don't think that's weird that they just pulled that up 274 00:08:15,796 --> 00:08:17,029 right when you're about to-- - Right, this is insane. 275 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:18,264 You're like a pawn in their game right now. 276 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:18,566 The relationship was over. It was done. 277 00:08:19,099 --> 00:08:20,199 It was dead. 278 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,400 I want to weigh in on the timing. 279 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:22,401 I think there's a lot of emotions being 280 00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:23,836 evoked about the specifics. 281 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:26,172 I agree with what Mia said about she thinks that Will 282 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:27,674 was calculated in his timing. 283 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:29,441 To me, this feels like when Will was-- 284 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:30,610 I was calculated? 285 00:08:30,611 --> 00:08:31,811 Why isn't it Will that's calculated? 286 00:08:31,812 --> 00:08:33,179 Why is it-- but-- - Was Will there? 287 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,581 Was he not? - He's not. 288 00:08:34,582 --> 00:08:35,882 - He was not there. - No, he was in his meeting. 289 00:08:35,883 --> 00:08:37,049 He brought this forward last night before we 290 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:38,585 were all getting together. 291 00:08:38,586 --> 00:08:40,820 To me, this feels like when he was calling Ali's brother 292 00:08:40,821 --> 00:08:42,254 right before prom. - Yep. 293 00:08:42,255 --> 00:08:43,455 I feel like he's calculating and 294 00:08:43,456 --> 00:08:44,591 manipulating these situations. 295 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:46,258 Can I say something? Can I tell-- 296 00:08:46,259 --> 00:08:47,494 - And that's all I have to say. - Wait, no, no-- 297 00:08:47,595 --> 00:08:48,828 - That's all I have to say. - He's talking. 298 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:50,329 By the way, I want to talk about this season. 299 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:51,430 - Yes. - Yeah. 300 00:08:51,431 --> 00:08:52,599 - Me, too. - I'm getting to that. 301 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,133 I'm getting to that. - Yeah, I agree. 302 00:08:54,134 --> 00:08:56,068 So what would you like to say, 303 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,704 because I want to move forward? 304 00:08:57,705 --> 00:08:58,838 Yes, Maddi. 305 00:08:58,839 --> 00:09:00,873 I appreciate the accountability. 306 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:02,609 I really did. 307 00:09:02,610 --> 00:09:06,478 And last night, that meant a lot to me. 308 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:08,180 But I also have a huge weight lifted 309 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:10,182 off my shoulder of clarity. 310 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:12,785 And I never had clarity. 311 00:09:12,786 --> 00:09:16,088 Before I move on, there's one question that remains, 312 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:19,158 which is, what was Joe Bradley's involvement in this? 313 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:20,827 I mean, like, I was in the group chat. 314 00:09:20,828 --> 00:09:23,229 But like, I was the one that called her that night 315 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:24,797 when Sammie showed up to, like, let 316 00:09:24,798 --> 00:09:26,298 her know this was happening. 317 00:09:26,299 --> 00:09:28,434 Unfortunately, when Maddi and Trevor were dating, 318 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:30,637 I was not really allowed to hang out with her as much. 319 00:09:30,638 --> 00:09:32,004 Did I hate the guy? 320 00:09:32,005 --> 00:09:34,641 Was I kind of like, all right, like, you know what? 321 00:09:34,642 --> 00:09:35,642 Hell, yeah, this is happening? 322 00:09:35,643 --> 00:09:36,776 But were you lying to her? 323 00:09:36,777 --> 00:09:38,645 But I had no involvement in any-- 324 00:09:38,646 --> 00:09:39,746 Joe had no involvement at all. 325 00:09:39,747 --> 00:09:41,147 OK, all right, that's what I don't know. 326 00:09:41,148 --> 00:09:43,650 All right, well, for years, Joe Bradley's 327 00:09:43,651 --> 00:09:46,819 been a broken record about his crush on DJ Maddi Reese. 328 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:49,188 And this season, he finally got his dream girl. 329 00:09:49,189 --> 00:09:51,891 But a fake Vegas wedding and talks of moving in 330 00:09:51,892 --> 00:09:54,994 had Joe pumping his fist and Maddi 331 00:09:54,995 --> 00:09:56,929 looking to pump the brakes. 332 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,031 Yes, I'm dating Joe Bradley. 333 00:09:59,032 --> 00:10:01,300 I feel like I've always liked Joe. 334 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:02,902 It's just we worked so well together 335 00:10:02,903 --> 00:10:05,905 and we were best friends, so to make it romantic 336 00:10:05,906 --> 00:10:07,774 was just a huge risk. 337 00:10:07,775 --> 00:10:10,843 But at the same time, I know this man's in love with me. 338 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:12,078 Dreams really do come true. 339 00:10:12,079 --> 00:10:14,546 Maddi Reese finally agreed to love me back. 340 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:16,115 We're pretty much inseparable. 341 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:17,850 And I've never been happier in my life. 342 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:19,786 I see myself in the next few years, like, wanting to, 343 00:10:19,787 --> 00:10:20,987 like, settle down. 344 00:10:20,988 --> 00:10:22,488 And, like, that's the exciting thing. 345 00:10:22,489 --> 00:10:24,691 I feel like we're entering the next chapter of our lives. 346 00:10:24,692 --> 00:10:26,759 If Joe asked me to marry him today, 347 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,129 I would say yes to save him the embarrassment. 348 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,964 A little part of me fears that, like, 349 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:34,266 her career gets so big that she outgrows Charleston. 350 00:10:34,267 --> 00:10:37,136 I already feel like she feels a little bit cabin fever 351 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:38,504 living in this small town. 352 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:40,707 At what point do we move in together? 353 00:10:40,708 --> 00:10:42,474 I just hate this pressure right now because-- 354 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:43,475 I'm not pressuring. 355 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:44,711 everything is so great. 356 00:10:44,712 --> 00:10:45,912 Like, we're in this honeymoon phase. 357 00:10:45,913 --> 00:10:47,346 I want to communicate. 358 00:10:47,347 --> 00:10:49,015 I'm not going to live the next year driving 359 00:10:49,016 --> 00:10:50,416 to that house for 30 minutes. 360 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:51,583 I'm just not going to. 361 00:10:51,584 --> 00:10:53,953 OK, then don't. 362 00:10:53,954 --> 00:10:55,654 All right, so Joe, what was it 363 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,057 like finally dating this woman that you 364 00:10:58,058 --> 00:11:00,292 fantasized about for years? 365 00:11:00,293 --> 00:11:03,896 To fall in love with your best friend of three years, 366 00:11:03,897 --> 00:11:06,733 and over that time, like, not being weird about it 367 00:11:06,734 --> 00:11:08,500 and kind of, like, trying to maintain 368 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:11,170 that friendship without being, like, a weird, jealous prick, 369 00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:13,239 like, I feel like the only person that 370 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,340 believed in me was my mom. 371 00:11:14,341 --> 00:11:15,875 I believed in you. 372 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:18,645 Like, my mom looked at her, and, like-- her first time-- 373 00:11:18,746 --> 00:11:19,746 He gave that-- 374 00:11:19,747 --> 00:11:20,980 my mom saw a photo of Maddi. 375 00:11:20,981 --> 00:11:22,548 Not at first. 376 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,016 My mom saw a photo of Maddi, and my mom was, like, straight 377 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,785 up, that's the one. 378 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:27,253 Wow. 379 00:11:27,254 --> 00:11:29,288 Yeah, she would tell me we're gonna end up together. 380 00:11:29,289 --> 00:11:34,393 TJ, you said, once a cheater, always a cheater, to Maddi, 381 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:36,495 regarding Joe, 382 00:11:36,496 --> 00:11:38,564 I think that was in a moment of, 383 00:11:38,565 --> 00:11:40,199 like, still unresolved issues. 384 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,034 And I was still hurt. 385 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,136 I definitely don't feel that way now. 386 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:45,838 Because I'm not a cheater, so let's 387 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:46,906 go ahead and clarify that. 388 00:11:46,907 --> 00:11:48,207 I also think we just cleared up 389 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:49,842 the whole, once a cheater, always a cheater, 390 00:11:49,843 --> 00:11:51,377 isn't necessarily true. 391 00:11:51,378 --> 00:11:52,979 I think we just cleared that up also. 392 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,046 But I want to say, like-- 393 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,581 Not calling him one. 394 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:57,784 I looked at Danielle in the face, what he was referring to. 395 00:11:57,785 --> 00:11:59,451 And I said, hey, we're like-- 396 00:11:59,452 --> 00:12:01,553 I think this is not the right thing. 397 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:03,055 I'm down to still hang out. 398 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:04,891 Did I handle that situation poorly with Luann and Danielle? 399 00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:06,158 Absolutely. 400 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:08,194 Do I regret everything I said last reunion 401 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:10,429 about me denying it? 402 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:12,098 I handled it horribly. I didn't want to-- 403 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:13,833 I did not want to hurt Danielle's feelings. 404 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:15,101 But there's one thing I'm not. 405 00:12:15,102 --> 00:12:16,468 And I'm not a cheater. - Yeah. 406 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:17,469 And you know that. 407 00:12:19,907 --> 00:12:21,140 Coming up. 408 00:12:21,141 --> 00:12:24,310 You don't know what this is like. 409 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,212 No one's supposed to go through this. 410 00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:29,048 No normal person is supposed to go through this. 411 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:30,582 This isn't normal. 412 00:12:39,459 --> 00:12:40,960 Welcome back. 413 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:44,263 I'm Andy Cohen, here with Leva and the gang from Republic. 414 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:48,067 Joe, you told Bradley you're on a one-year plan, 415 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:50,737 and you want to propose to Maddi now 416 00:12:50,838 --> 00:12:52,604 that her career is taking off. 417 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,140 Where are you with that now? 418 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:57,643 Absolutely, I feel the same. 419 00:12:57,644 --> 00:12:59,245 I feel like I'm never-- 420 00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:00,880 Well, it's been a year. 421 00:13:00,881 --> 00:13:03,349 Well, since I had that conversation with him, 422 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:04,483 it's been about six months. 423 00:13:04,484 --> 00:13:05,551 Oh, OK 424 00:13:05,552 --> 00:13:07,920 I look at Maddi, and I tell her, 425 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:11,858 I think that timing has finally worked in our favor. 426 00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:14,861 And I'm never going to be with anyone else in my life. 427 00:13:14,862 --> 00:13:17,229 So what's the difference between putting a ring on it 428 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,098 and having a five-year engagement than waiting 429 00:13:19,099 --> 00:13:20,232 another two years? 430 00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:21,400 I feel like patience is good, though. 431 00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:22,634 Like, watching y'all from the outside 432 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,070 in, y'all are in a good space. 433 00:13:24,071 --> 00:13:26,638 And it's cool to see y'all, like, just enjoy that. 434 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,941 I think you said that you were like-- 435 00:13:28,942 --> 00:13:30,042 if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 436 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:30,943 - Yeah. - It ain't broke right now. 437 00:13:30,944 --> 00:13:32,044 It's not. 438 00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:32,945 It's doing phenomenal. 439 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:34,114 Very good. 440 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,048 So keep going. 441 00:13:36,049 --> 00:13:37,649 Well, Will's been plagued by rumors about bathrooms. 442 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:42,789 But it was a rumor about a Lu that came between TJ and Joe. 443 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:46,926 However, we learned it wasn't just TJ outing Joe and Luann 444 00:13:46,927 --> 00:13:49,962 that left these two so uncool. 445 00:13:49,963 --> 00:13:52,731 My beef with TJ first started in New York. 446 00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:53,933 Did you sleep with Luann? 447 00:13:53,934 --> 00:13:55,501 I think you should be honest. 448 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:57,136 I did not hook up with Luann. 449 00:13:57,137 --> 00:13:58,537 Joe is a cheater. 450 00:13:58,538 --> 00:13:59,939 Joe's cheated on every single relationship 451 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,107 he's ever been in. 452 00:14:01,108 --> 00:14:02,942 Joe will never leave her, ever. 453 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:04,343 - No, he won't leave her. - No, he won't. 454 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:05,711 But he will cheat on her. 455 00:14:05,712 --> 00:14:07,113 What's that saying, once a cheater, always a cheater? 456 00:14:07,114 --> 00:14:09,916 Joe has definitely sent me mixed signals in the past. 457 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:12,251 I never thought that Joe was sexually 458 00:14:12,252 --> 00:14:16,155 attracted to me until we did share a moment together. 459 00:14:16,156 --> 00:14:20,259 I think that Joe always knew that I was in love with him. 460 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:23,062 And he almost used that as, like, a little bit of control 461 00:14:23,063 --> 00:14:24,296 in our friendship. 462 00:14:24,297 --> 00:14:27,133 I remember, like, I slept in your bed. 463 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:31,137 I remember, like, I was drunk, and I, like, touched you. 464 00:14:31,138 --> 00:14:33,705 And you told a bunch of people about that. 465 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:35,741 And nothing happened, though, you know. 466 00:14:35,742 --> 00:14:37,376 In your mind, it might have been different. 467 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:38,677 And I apologize for that. 468 00:14:38,678 --> 00:14:40,312 Did he apologize, too? 469 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:41,848 Yeah, he did. 470 00:14:41,949 --> 00:14:44,650 OK, because, for years, he told me, like, not to give you 471 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:45,952 a chance because you were gay. 472 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:47,419 Do you think I'll ever be able to trust him? 473 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:49,788 That's a tough question. 474 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:52,959 OK, a lot to unpack there. 475 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,361 By the way, I thought your conversation at the bar 476 00:14:55,362 --> 00:14:58,197 was brave to have on camera. 477 00:14:58,198 --> 00:14:59,798 I thought that was great. - Especially-- 478 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,133 I was really proud of you guys. 479 00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:02,301 Especially Joe Bradley. 480 00:15:02,302 --> 00:15:04,136 I don't think it would have ever happened 481 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:05,872 if he didn't initiate that. 482 00:15:05,973 --> 00:15:07,439 So I do appreciate that. 483 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,076 Yeah, and that Maddi was really pushing for it, 484 00:15:10,077 --> 00:15:11,077 too, right? - Yeah. 485 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,078 Yeah. 486 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:13,246 I think Maddi was more pushing 487 00:15:14,514 --> 00:15:16,748 for us because she knows our long-lasting friendship. 488 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:20,386 And she knows that, you know-- 489 00:15:20,387 --> 00:15:22,488 our whole fight when we weren't talking to each other, that was 490 00:15:22,489 --> 00:15:23,990 a very upsetting time for me. 491 00:15:23,991 --> 00:15:25,424 Yeah, clearly. 492 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,894 And when he says, like, I want you to feel something, 493 00:15:27,995 --> 00:15:29,095 that was pretty-- 494 00:15:29,096 --> 00:15:30,729 he calls me a manipulator for thinking 495 00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:31,863 that you were in love with me. 496 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:33,199 Dude, I was one of your best friends. 497 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,501 I was your shoulder to cry on with everything 498 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,003 going on in your love life. 499 00:15:37,004 --> 00:15:40,907 And watching the show back, a lot of the things you 500 00:15:41,008 --> 00:15:43,309 said were a dude. 501 00:15:43,310 --> 00:15:44,710 Not OK. 502 00:15:44,711 --> 00:15:45,912 I was hurt. 503 00:15:46,013 --> 00:15:47,546 I understand you were hurt, but let's 504 00:15:47,547 --> 00:15:49,848 go back to four years ago. 505 00:15:49,849 --> 00:15:52,251 I found out-- you say in the show 506 00:15:52,252 --> 00:15:55,387 that the only person you told about that was Brad. 507 00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:57,756 Everyone in this room knows that you told the-- you 508 00:15:57,757 --> 00:15:59,825 told the entire town. 509 00:15:59,826 --> 00:16:01,193 That is not true. 510 00:16:01,194 --> 00:16:02,394 You definitely told me. 511 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:03,329 I was literally in the afterparty-- 512 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:04,530 You definitely told me that. 513 00:16:04,531 --> 00:16:05,498 I was in the afterparty, and six people-- 514 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:07,499 And I can name a very vivid time. 515 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:08,200 Yeah, you know who said it to you? 516 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:09,301 JT. - JT? 517 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:10,436 Know who JT heard it from? Your ex. 518 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:11,337 You know who your ex heard it from? 519 00:16:11,338 --> 00:16:12,704 - You. - Reagan. 520 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:13,772 - Well, how else-- - I wouldn't talk to your ex. 521 00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:14,640 they supposed to know. 522 00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:16,142 You telling someone-- 523 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:19,545 OK, sorry, me confiding into two people of a situation 524 00:16:19,546 --> 00:16:22,714 that I went through, I should be able to do. 525 00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:24,216 And whatever happens-- 526 00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:25,917 But did you go around town telling people Joe was gay? 527 00:16:25,918 --> 00:16:27,119 No. 528 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,055 Austin, you had heard it too, right? 529 00:16:29,056 --> 00:16:30,389 TJ and I used to kick it a little bit. 530 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:31,958 He outright told me that Joe was-- 531 00:16:32,059 --> 00:16:34,093 We were having a conversation about sexuality. 532 00:16:34,094 --> 00:16:35,094 Me, too. 533 00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:36,095 I remember it very vaguely. 534 00:16:36,096 --> 00:16:37,229 Beth told me that. 535 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,364 And you were telling me how open 536 00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:39,966 you were about your sexuality. 537 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:41,968 And you said, I heard stuff about you 538 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:44,070 from my ex-girlfriend Aria. 539 00:16:44,071 --> 00:16:47,539 I think all of Charleston is extremely small. 540 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:50,176 And I think that, yes, TJ told some people. 541 00:16:50,177 --> 00:16:53,245 But for that to be, TJ went around and told the whole town, 542 00:16:53,246 --> 00:16:54,746 is a little bit ostracized. 543 00:16:54,747 --> 00:16:55,747 I think that-- 544 00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:57,083 But here's why I think that. 545 00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:58,784 this was a commonality that we all knew about. 546 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:00,186 No, no, listen, listen, listen, 547 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:02,788 I think for being in the South, Joe is a little metro. 548 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:04,423 He likes to dress nice. He wears his gel in-- 549 00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:05,591 - Collared shirt, yeah. - And he is comfortable-- 550 00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:06,825 - And that's fine. - in who he is. 551 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:08,327 Yeah, but he's comfortable with who he is. 552 00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:09,728 And now he's probably never going to sleep in a bed with TJ 553 00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:10,829 ever again. 554 00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:11,830 I'm just saying other people-- 555 00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:12,898 - TJ. - It's very complicated. 556 00:17:12,899 --> 00:17:14,966 Did you know that-- 557 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:16,502 but let me ask you this. 558 00:17:16,503 --> 00:17:21,340 If you thought maybe you were in love with Joe, why go around 559 00:17:21,341 --> 00:17:22,941 or why tell people-- 560 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:26,245 I mean, wouldn't you realize that was your best friend? 561 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:27,346 Like it's sabotage. 562 00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:28,780 I never went out of my way to-- 563 00:17:28,781 --> 00:17:29,781 Can I ask you something first? 564 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:30,882 Hold on. 565 00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:31,951 I would like him to answer the question. 566 00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:33,285 to do that. 567 00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:34,953 That narrative is insane. 568 00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:37,789 I also have never sabotaged anything that you've been with. 569 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:39,291 But you know what's sabotaging you, telling 570 00:17:39,292 --> 00:17:42,128 my girlfriend that I'm gay and you also telling 571 00:17:42,129 --> 00:17:43,429 my girlfriend I'm a cheater. 572 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:45,198 It was up to you, everyone would be single. 573 00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:50,769 Neptunenav013 said, TJ, as a gay man, 574 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,704 even if you believed Joe was gay, 575 00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:56,542 why would you start a rumor outing a potential gay man? 576 00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,177 You claim Joe is your best friend 577 00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,879 but don't take accountability for the damage 578 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,515 those rumors did to him. 579 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:09,020 I stand when I say that I went through something 580 00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:10,722 and I can find it in people. 581 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:15,294 And it was never a cruel, malicious-- 582 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:18,230 I physically and mentally do not remember a single thing. 583 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:20,432 I'm going off of what he told other people. 584 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,634 In what world would that ever be a moment? 585 00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:26,372 Well, if TJ was the other participant in this, 586 00:18:26,373 --> 00:18:27,539 for him, it could-- 587 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:28,807 I know, but like-- 588 00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:30,008 That's just what I'm saying. 589 00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:31,510 I think that the feelings from both sides 590 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,045 are valid because I think for him, 591 00:18:34,046 --> 00:18:36,082 he could have been hopeful that it was a moment. 592 00:18:36,183 --> 00:18:37,316 OK. 593 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:38,984 But what it's also common in the South-- 594 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:40,186 It's not cool, though. 595 00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:41,820 No, I'm not-- no one's saying it's cool. 596 00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:45,056 I'm saying what's common is "straight-presenting" 597 00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:47,559 guys have these moments and they push people 598 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,195 down to make them be quiet. 599 00:18:49,196 --> 00:18:50,229 That happens all the time. - Yeah, it's not-- 600 00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:51,530 It's not just in the South. 601 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:52,531 Well, in general, yes. 602 00:18:52,532 --> 00:18:53,732 In general. 603 00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:55,201 And also, I don't think these moments 604 00:18:55,202 --> 00:18:57,703 happen between two people that were already best friends. 605 00:18:57,704 --> 00:18:59,338 Usually, that's someone that you're 606 00:18:59,339 --> 00:19:00,539 not really that close with. 607 00:19:00,540 --> 00:19:03,041 So that adds nuance to the situation. 608 00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,710 And it makes it more difficult to handle. 609 00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:07,813 In moving on, what is the status of your friendship 610 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:09,748 right now, TJ? 611 00:19:09,749 --> 00:19:10,949 I mean, it sucks. 612 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:12,651 I feel like after we started filming, 613 00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:14,986 like finished the season and things were good. 614 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:16,822 And it's just gotten weird again. 615 00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:18,890 Because the show has been airing and so-- 616 00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:20,392 It was really hard to watch. 617 00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:22,027 And I'm sorry if I'm not being more sensitive right now. 618 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,262 I mean, I just don't think you guys 619 00:19:23,263 --> 00:19:24,631 know how hard this is for me. 620 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:27,633 It's hard for me, too. 621 00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:29,001 And it's up that like-- 622 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,006 It's up that what? 623 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:36,608 That like you expect him to stay 624 00:19:36,609 --> 00:19:38,410 silent just because Joe is-- 625 00:19:38,411 --> 00:19:40,779 I feel like when these situations happen-- 626 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:42,013 again, they're best friends. 627 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:43,382 So when you have someone's best friends 628 00:19:43,383 --> 00:19:44,983 and these things happen, it's harder. 629 00:19:44,984 --> 00:19:46,318 OK? 630 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,954 That does not make me-- like, you know, 631 00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:50,956 that doesn't give the right for them just to kind of-- 632 00:19:50,957 --> 00:19:51,957 We didn't scissor then. 633 00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,259 situation. 634 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:55,261 No, but I'm saying I've scissored another woman 635 00:19:55,262 --> 00:19:56,395 but she didn't out me. - I know. 636 00:19:56,396 --> 00:19:57,829 I want to-- I want to hear from TJ. 637 00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:59,398 This is not fair. 638 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:00,599 It isn't fair at all. 639 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,301 And all you guys know why. 640 00:20:02,302 --> 00:20:03,302 I know. 641 00:20:03,303 --> 00:20:04,770 You've been hurt a lot. 642 00:20:04,771 --> 00:20:05,805 I'm sorry. 643 00:20:07,774 --> 00:20:09,441 So having his voice maybe-- 644 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:10,709 Yeah. 645 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:12,711 Back from Virginia, you know, I get it. 646 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:16,282 I think that it's hard, especially where we live, 647 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,216 a lot of straight guys like to queer bait 648 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,685 and they like to give us the wrong idea. 649 00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:22,421 I feel like, for me, before, you 650 00:20:22,422 --> 00:20:24,055 know, getting into a relationship, 651 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,891 I was celibate for three years. 652 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:27,726 And I just closed off that part of my life 653 00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:29,928 because there were a lot of straight guys 654 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,363 that would approach me. 655 00:20:31,364 --> 00:20:33,765 And it was always like a kiss on the neck 656 00:20:33,766 --> 00:20:36,668 or like a kiss at a club or something. 657 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:37,769 And my friends would be like, oh, 658 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:39,137 but I thought he was straight. 659 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:41,707 And then it just never turned into anything 660 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,342 and it was always the wrong idea. 661 00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:44,776 You feel like you've given your heart 662 00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:47,479 to a lot of these people, TJ, and gotten it broken? 663 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Yeah. 664 00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:50,316 Yes? Oh, I'm sorry. 665 00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:51,883 I just want to, like, put this out there, 666 00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:53,685 I'm proud of our conversation. 667 00:20:53,686 --> 00:20:55,388 And I think it is a really big issue. 668 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:57,823 It's just very-- 669 00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:59,358 a very complicated situation. 670 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,559 I thought it was incredible. 671 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,394 And I thought that it was really-- 672 00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:04,663 I thought you both were really brave to share it. 673 00:21:04,664 --> 00:21:06,765 And I think, you know, TJ, I mean, 674 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:08,334 I thought your conversation with Michols 675 00:21:08,335 --> 00:21:12,103 was super powerful and very impactful for people. 676 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,840 Dating here has been like, hard. 677 00:21:14,841 --> 00:21:15,907 So hard. 678 00:21:15,908 --> 00:21:17,676 And it's just like, OK, I'm not 679 00:21:17,677 --> 00:21:20,379 your stereotypical White guy. 680 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:22,648 And so I'm always going to feel like I'm 681 00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:24,049 never going to be enough. 682 00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:28,387 From my past relationships, I would open up so much. 683 00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:29,921 And I was super vulnerable. 684 00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:31,523 But they're not out at all. 685 00:21:31,524 --> 00:21:34,493 I was so proud that it was on Bravo. 686 00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:36,662 I just thought it was really amazing. 687 00:21:36,663 --> 00:21:38,229 So you should feel really good about that. 688 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:42,033 And I mean, TJ, I hope that you have-- 689 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,370 I love you. 690 00:21:44,371 --> 00:21:46,037 I hope that you are walking a little taller. 691 00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,974 I'm assuming that you're not letting the past repeat itself. 692 00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:51,142 No. 693 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:53,244 Your generation is like breaking, 694 00:21:53,245 --> 00:21:56,882 you know, a lot of rules and you know like. 695 00:21:56,883 --> 00:22:00,786 And it takes a little bit of mess to do that. 696 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:02,554 I think you should all be proud of yourselves 697 00:22:02,555 --> 00:22:04,423 because you can't do it perfectly. 698 00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:06,858 But I think that you should be proud of what 699 00:22:06,859 --> 00:22:08,460 you were able to achieve. 700 00:22:08,461 --> 00:22:10,862 This seems like a great place to take a break. 701 00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:12,263 Coming up next. 702 00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:14,566 Grace, do you stand by that statement about Tulum? 703 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:15,934 - I do. - Are you serious? 704 00:22:15,935 --> 00:22:17,268 You're sure about that? 705 00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,037 Wait, Grace, you really think I sucked his dick? 706 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:20,238 Are you for real? Grace? 707 00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:21,239 Y'all did something. 708 00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:32,984 We are back with more from the "Southern 709 00:22:32,985 --> 00:22:34,520 Hospitality" gang. 710 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:35,854 I'm Andy Cohen. 711 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:38,857 Well, Grace Lilly likes to keep things wavy, baby. 712 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:41,259 But we've seen her relationship with Republic and 713 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:44,696 Maddi come crashing down over the last few seasons. 714 00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:47,298 And as Maddi rides a wave of success 715 00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:49,635 with career and romance, Grace might 716 00:22:49,636 --> 00:22:54,305 need one more come to Jesus moment before her tide turns. 717 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:55,741 This is amazing. 718 00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:57,275 Isn't this studio awesome? 719 00:22:57,276 --> 00:22:58,544 This is so sick. 720 00:22:58,545 --> 00:22:59,745 Yes. 721 00:22:59,746 --> 00:23:01,012 I want my first single to be with my best 722 00:23:01,013 --> 00:23:02,448 friend, Grace Lilly. 723 00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:04,483 But I also think that since leaving Republic, 724 00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:06,918 Grace hasn't felt like she's had a purpose. 725 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:08,754 She really doesn't do much. 726 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,523 ♪ # La, la, la, la, la ♪ 727 00:23:11,524 --> 00:23:12,858 Grace should be at this soundtrack. 728 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,962 This moment is more for her than it is for me. 729 00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:27,506 I don't see Maddi gaining anything for having 730 00:23:27,507 --> 00:23:28,507 a friend like Grace. 731 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:30,676 She's being taken advantage of. 732 00:23:30,677 --> 00:23:34,245 Grace, I would never trust you. 733 00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:35,281 What's going on? 734 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,184 Grace is not allowed in my house 735 00:23:39,185 --> 00:23:41,319 right now because she slept with Oisin. 736 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,488 One time. 737 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:44,122 Like, it's not that big of a deal. 738 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:46,157 It's a huge deal for me. 739 00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:47,693 Eva is my best friend. 740 00:23:47,694 --> 00:23:49,260 And Grace is my best friend. 741 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:53,532 And this has caused turmoil in my girl clique. 742 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:54,900 She had looked at her in the face and say, 743 00:23:54,901 --> 00:23:56,101 I wouldn't do this to you. 744 00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:59,538 I did that because she told me it was OK! 745 00:23:59,539 --> 00:24:01,573 No, I think you did that because you wanted to do that. 746 00:24:01,574 --> 00:24:02,708 - No! - Take accountability. 747 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:03,775 I have! I have. 748 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:05,611 Then do your own-- 749 00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:07,813 Just like you did when you sucked a dick in Tulum. 750 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:11,149 I have never even touched Oisin's dick. 751 00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:13,118 I'm your best friend, Grace! 752 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,720 No, you're not! 753 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,087 I would never. 754 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:17,288 All right. 755 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:18,289 OK. 756 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:19,791 Well, so let me back up. 757 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,528 What are you doing these days since you left Republic? 758 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:24,530 Well, I am working on my fashion line. 759 00:24:24,531 --> 00:24:26,097 It's going to be called OGL. 760 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:28,399 That's short for Original Grace Lilly. 761 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,537 And it is Burning Man Festival fashion. 762 00:24:31,538 --> 00:24:33,038 And it's something that I've been dreaming 763 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:34,540 of since I was a little girl. 764 00:24:34,541 --> 00:24:38,309 So yeah, I'm also working on music as well. 765 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,579 My modeling career, of course. 766 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:42,013 And yeah, I'm taking some singing 767 00:24:42,014 --> 00:24:43,682 and acting lessons as well. 768 00:24:43,683 --> 00:24:46,184 Molly, after hearing the performance in Vegas, 769 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:48,119 do you feel like Grace has a legitimate career 770 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,555 in music in her future? 771 00:24:49,556 --> 00:24:50,556 If auto-tune's is there. 772 00:24:51,558 --> 00:24:53,024 OK, well, first off, I can-- 773 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,193 You said this song's good but you don't want people 774 00:24:55,194 --> 00:24:56,662 knowing it's on your playlist. 775 00:24:56,663 --> 00:24:59,197 So I think it's one of those songs, that was more 776 00:24:59,198 --> 00:25:02,901 towards the not the production of it and the music side of it. 777 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:03,969 If it was like-- 778 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:05,571 There was hard work put into it. 779 00:25:05,572 --> 00:25:07,238 There was a lot of people doing a lot 780 00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:08,740 of things with those vocals. 781 00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:11,342 But I think you have a lot of potential. 782 00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,244 And those vocal lessons-- 783 00:25:13,245 --> 00:25:14,445 I mean, that wasn't me singing. 784 00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:15,446 I mean-- 785 00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:16,715 Well, that proves my point. 786 00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:18,183 that's me talking sexy, like I always do. 787 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:19,184 Yeah. 788 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:20,586 That's not my true potential. 789 00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:21,820 I mean, I can sing like Amy Winehouse. 790 00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:22,821 I like that. 791 00:25:22,822 --> 00:25:24,189 I'm going to use that. 792 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:27,058 Can you elaborate on what you think Grace did 793 00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:28,627 to take advantage of Maddi? 794 00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:30,161 Yeah. 795 00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:35,400 So I'll say this, Grace, the way I reacted to you in Vegas, 796 00:25:35,401 --> 00:25:38,336 I don't really regret that because at that time, 797 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:42,040 I think that it was kind of a one-sided friendship. 798 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:45,210 But I do think that like, since then, I 799 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:47,245 want to apologize in a way because I feel like you've 800 00:25:47,246 --> 00:25:48,614 been a great friend of Maddi. 801 00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:50,749 You've shown up to everything that kind of Maddi 802 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:52,984 has reached out to you about with, like, the photoshoots. 803 00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:54,886 And you've been a much better friend. 804 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,221 I've seen a lot of growth. 805 00:25:56,222 --> 00:25:58,423 So I think my frustration towards you in Vegas 806 00:25:58,424 --> 00:26:00,826 was more about like, I know your potential. 807 00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:02,628 I want you to be better. 808 00:26:02,629 --> 00:26:04,229 And that's kind of where I stand. 809 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:05,463 And you have been better. 810 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:06,998 And I want to see you back at Republic. 811 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:09,935 Any chance of Grace Lilly being back at Republic, Leva? 812 00:26:09,936 --> 00:26:11,202 We have to talk about it. 813 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:13,171 I mean, a lot of the reason that she left 814 00:26:13,172 --> 00:26:15,907 was stemming from the Eva, and the arguments, 815 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:20,211 and the scenes that were made at work, and stuff like that. 816 00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,814 Grace, Billy G wants to know why in the world 817 00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:25,350 you would sleep with Oisin when you knew good and 818 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:27,653 well that he was in this situationship 819 00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:29,655 with one of your good friends? 820 00:26:29,656 --> 00:26:31,323 I think I wasn't thinking right. 821 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,226 I wish it never happened. 822 00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:39,530 It caused me a lot within my job 823 00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,967 at Republic that means so much to me. 824 00:26:41,968 --> 00:26:43,569 And if I could go back in time, I would 825 00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:44,870 take it back in a heartbeat. 826 00:26:44,871 --> 00:26:46,437 Joe, was there a part of you that 827 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:50,842 believed that Maddi and Oisin hooked up in Tulum after Grace 828 00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:52,210 made that accusation? 829 00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:53,344 I mean, my god. 830 00:26:53,345 --> 00:26:55,246 Like at that point, like, am I going 831 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,315 to believe my best friend, my confidant, 832 00:26:57,316 --> 00:26:58,850 like in my head, my future wife? 833 00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:00,551 Or I'm going to believe the girl 834 00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:03,188 that just saw Bob Marley and Jesus two weeks before that? 835 00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:04,189 You know what I mean? 836 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:05,456 I'm sorry. 837 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:09,027 Like, looking back on-- looking back on that-- 838 00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:11,830 you saying that I was like, I was very shook. 839 00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:13,965 But I consider Oisin a good friend. 840 00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,967 And I don't think he's, like I said before, he's 841 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,068 a lot of things, not a liar. 842 00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,069 And I think-- 843 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:19,605 And I think Grace was hurt. 844 00:27:19,706 --> 00:27:20,906 So she was saying things that hurt 845 00:27:20,907 --> 00:27:22,440 other people in that moment. 846 00:27:22,441 --> 00:27:23,942 That's how I believe. 847 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,078 So, Grace, do you stand by that statement about Tulum? 848 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,447 I do. 849 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:30,448 Are you serious? 850 00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:31,783 You're sure about that? 851 00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:33,218 Wait, Grace, you really think I sucked his dick? 852 00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:34,385 Are you for real? 853 00:27:34,386 --> 00:27:35,787 - Grace, y'all did something. - Oh. 854 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:37,288 She said they made out. Yeah. 855 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,257 Was that a hallucination you had along with Bob Marley? 856 00:27:39,258 --> 00:27:41,159 That's not apples and oranges. 857 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,227 watch the second season. 858 00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,428 I went in my confessional. 859 00:27:43,429 --> 00:27:45,463 And I said, Oisin and I had a moment. 860 00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:47,265 Maybe I didn't know what the moment was. 861 00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,367 But I get it was a moment. 862 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:52,037 Grace Lily, where do you and Maddi stand today? 863 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:53,872 You know, you told Maddi that you two 864 00:27:53,873 --> 00:27:56,141 weren't friends at the prom. 865 00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:57,575 That was sad to see. - I know. 866 00:27:57,576 --> 00:27:58,576 I know. 867 00:27:58,577 --> 00:28:00,746 So where are you today? 868 00:28:00,747 --> 00:28:02,914 We're good. 869 00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:03,915 We've worked through things. 870 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,350 We've talked through things. 871 00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:07,552 No matter what, Maddi and I will always have 872 00:28:07,553 --> 00:28:09,087 a very close relationship. 873 00:28:09,088 --> 00:28:11,322 And I love this woman dearly to my heart 874 00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:15,060 and will always support her in every way and every situation 875 00:28:15,061 --> 00:28:16,461 in her life. 876 00:28:16,462 --> 00:28:19,765 And I wish that things would have gone differently. 877 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:20,766 You know? 878 00:28:20,767 --> 00:28:22,267 And I apologize. 879 00:28:22,268 --> 00:28:24,469 And I made some mistakes this summer. 880 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:25,470 You know? 881 00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,805 And I'm not happy about it. 882 00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:30,408 But I never want it to hurt our friendship and 883 00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:32,443 the memories and the connection that we 884 00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:34,680 have so strong together. 885 00:28:34,781 --> 00:28:38,283 So just know that I love you till the day I die. 886 00:28:38,284 --> 00:28:41,219 We'll be right back with more "Southern Hospitality." 887 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,653 Coming up next. 888 00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:46,324 I thought sharing my story would make my relationship 889 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:47,592 with my mom better. 890 00:28:47,593 --> 00:28:50,095 And my mom hasn't reached out once. 891 00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:52,363 Have you heard from anyone in your family 892 00:28:52,364 --> 00:28:54,032 since the show aired? 893 00:29:02,174 --> 00:29:04,575 Welcome back to the "Southern Hospitality" 894 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:06,477 season three reunion. 895 00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:09,047 This season, Lake and Michols were new to the group 896 00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:11,817 but came in hot, pursuing new relationships 897 00:29:11,818 --> 00:29:15,486 and bonding with each other over their coming out journeys. 898 00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:16,722 There's no one like Lake. 899 00:29:16,823 --> 00:29:18,256 I've never met a girl like Lake before. 900 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:19,257 She's an artist. 901 00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:20,391 She's well traveled. 902 00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:21,893 There's so much uniqueness about her. 903 00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,328 Rod is so hot. I swear to god. 904 00:29:23,329 --> 00:29:24,595 OK, make a move. 905 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:25,731 No, I'm not going to make a move on him. 906 00:29:25,832 --> 00:29:26,732 Why not? 907 00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:28,133 Because I'm-- I can't. 908 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:29,335 He has to make a move first. 909 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:35,874 What was thrilling about this whole relationship 910 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:37,408 was the chase. 911 00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:40,278 Now, it's time to just, like, close that box, 912 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,914 put it away in a closet, and never open it again. 913 00:29:42,915 --> 00:29:44,850 Because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. 914 00:29:44,851 --> 00:29:46,251 When did you guys meet? 915 00:29:46,252 --> 00:29:47,986 We met in high school. 916 00:29:47,987 --> 00:29:52,758 We kind of just, like, connected really quickly. 917 00:29:52,859 --> 00:29:56,427 And then, we decided to spend every single day together. 918 00:29:56,428 --> 00:29:59,530 She was a lot of my sexual awakening growing up. 919 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:02,300 I mean, I had hooked up with girls before her. 920 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:05,603 But I think that, like, I was in love with her. 921 00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:07,172 We had a soul bond. 922 00:30:07,173 --> 00:30:11,142 There's a lot of expectations that come with being a Rucker. 923 00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:13,711 If that means me being, like, a little bit more 924 00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:16,982 reserved when it comes to my sexuality, then so be it. 925 00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:19,550 After I came out, I feel like a relationship 926 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:22,221 that I really lost touch with was with my mom. 927 00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:27,758 She'll never change. 928 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,796 So just like, have to be arm's length all the time. 929 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:36,467 All right. 930 00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:38,503 That got you, Michols. 931 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:40,538 Talk to me. 932 00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:42,007 What's happening? 933 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:46,177 I thought sharing my story would make my relationship 934 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,445 with my mom better. 935 00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:51,082 And my mom hasn't reached out once. 936 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:52,817 And-- 937 00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:55,053 Have you heard from anyone in your family 938 00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:56,421 since the show aired? 939 00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:59,324 Yeah, my brother, my aunt, and my sister have been, 940 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:00,959 like, very supportive. 941 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,660 And let me ask you this. 942 00:31:02,661 --> 00:31:05,063 Were they supportive before this? 943 00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,232 Or was it a new level of support? 944 00:31:07,233 --> 00:31:08,799 It was definitely a new level of support. 945 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,301 Good. Well, listen. 946 00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,970 You have to take that. 947 00:31:11,971 --> 00:31:17,108 And you have to let that be what you stand on for now. 948 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:19,410 I know this must be so hard. 949 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:20,611 I'm not kidding. 950 00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:22,647 You messaged me one day. 951 00:31:22,648 --> 00:31:23,949 I was, like, getting ready for work. 952 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:25,150 And Love had messaged me. 953 00:31:25,151 --> 00:31:26,784 And she was like, hey, I just watched this. 954 00:31:26,785 --> 00:31:28,553 And like, I'm going to let you know 955 00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:30,621 before you get the screening. 956 00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:32,590 But I was sitting there sobbing. 957 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:36,161 And for the next three weeks, I was just losing my mind. 958 00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:37,495 Like, I could barely sleep. 959 00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:38,663 I could barely eat. 960 00:31:38,664 --> 00:31:40,165 I was just like, oh, my god. 961 00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:41,299 What did I say? 962 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:42,500 Right? 963 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:43,734 And then, when it got the screaming-- 964 00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:47,605 screening, I literally was in bed with Preston. 965 00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:48,974 And I just paused it. 966 00:31:48,975 --> 00:31:51,542 And I just cried for an hour straight. 967 00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:53,711 It was like, oh, my god, what did I just do? 968 00:31:53,712 --> 00:31:55,613 Like, because I felt bad about it. 969 00:31:55,614 --> 00:32:00,485 I felt like it was going to be perceived in a bad way 970 00:32:00,486 --> 00:32:03,388 because I felt bad for sharing my story. 971 00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:05,423 And I've gotten so much support. 972 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:06,992 And it's been so overwhelming. 973 00:32:06,993 --> 00:32:09,560 And it's made me feel 10 times better about sharing it. 974 00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:11,196 Michols, you're so loved. 975 00:32:11,197 --> 00:32:13,631 Yes, you have a family in every single one of us. 976 00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:14,865 Yeah. 977 00:32:14,866 --> 00:32:15,866 And I believe you choose your family. 978 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:16,867 And-- - You're so loved. 979 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,703 I'm here. 980 00:32:18,704 --> 00:32:19,804 I know. 981 00:32:19,805 --> 00:32:21,339 - I thought it was outstanding. - Yeah. 982 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:22,340 Well-- 983 00:32:22,341 --> 00:32:23,874 Have you reached out to her? 984 00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:25,043 Yeah, I have. 985 00:32:25,044 --> 00:32:29,014 And the last thing she said to me 986 00:32:29,015 --> 00:32:32,683 was, why are people calling me and telling 987 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:35,286 me about you being gay? 988 00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:41,759 And I said, well, I filmed a reality TV show about my life. 989 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,694 Were you expecting me to go on TV 990 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,464 and act as if I were straight the way that you 991 00:32:46,465 --> 00:32:47,632 would have wanted me to? 992 00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:49,067 And? 993 00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:53,304 And she started screaming all types 994 00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:54,772 of curse words on the phone. 995 00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:56,141 And I wrote her a message. 996 00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:57,575 And I said-- I essentially said, 997 00:32:57,576 --> 00:32:59,210 I'm never going to be good enough for you. 998 00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:01,579 And she responded and said, you were kissing 999 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:05,150 a man on national television. 1000 00:33:05,151 --> 00:33:06,251 That's her stuff, not yours. 1001 00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:07,752 That's her. 1002 00:33:07,753 --> 00:33:10,621 And after that, I was just like, there's nothing I can do. 1003 00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:12,958 As a mom, I'm just telling you that that's her stuff. 1004 00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:14,225 It's not you. - Yeah. 1005 00:33:14,226 --> 00:33:15,893 - I know. - And she loves you. 1006 00:33:15,894 --> 00:33:18,096 She can't get-- she can't get past her own stuff. 1007 00:33:18,097 --> 00:33:19,064 Yeah. 1008 00:33:19,065 --> 00:33:20,331 Do you speak to anyone? 1009 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:21,699 Tomorrow night, I'm supposed to go to dinner 1010 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:22,700 with my aunt and my brother. 1011 00:33:22,701 --> 00:33:23,701 Great. 1012 00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:25,236 - And Preston's in town. - Good. 1013 00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:26,537 So, like, he's going to meet them. 1014 00:33:26,538 --> 00:33:28,639 How long have you been with Preston? 1015 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,443 It's been almost six, seven months. 1016 00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:33,944 Yeah, we just celebrated our six months. 1017 00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:37,515 Well, that's a huge thing that your aunt and your sibling 1018 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,984 are meeting your boyfriend. 1019 00:33:39,085 --> 00:33:41,186 I mean, that's a very huge step. 1020 00:33:41,187 --> 00:33:42,920 Are you nervous? - Yeah, very. 1021 00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,355 Yeah. 1022 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:45,890 I've been around his family, like, a lot recently. 1023 00:33:45,891 --> 00:33:47,258 They're very accepting, right? 1024 00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:49,260 Yeah, they're very accepting, very supportive. 1025 00:33:49,261 --> 00:33:50,861 So yeah, they're very sweet. 1026 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:51,862 That's great. 1027 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,364 Yeah. 1028 00:33:53,365 --> 00:33:56,001 Well, you should be really proud that, you know, look. 1029 00:33:56,102 --> 00:33:58,269 You came out of this season with a boyfriend. 1030 00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:59,704 And you're also-- 1031 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,340 I mean, this meal is a very big deal. 1032 00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:06,311 So, you know, take that as a huge win. 1033 00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:09,447 And the rest is something to work towards. 1034 00:34:09,448 --> 00:34:10,915 You know? 1035 00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:12,950 But you should feel really good about what you shared. 1036 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:14,385 It was really powerful. 1037 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:16,221 And I bet you it was very impactful 1038 00:34:16,222 --> 00:34:17,289 for many, many people. 1039 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:19,291 You know? 1040 00:34:23,129 --> 00:34:24,162 I love you too. 1041 00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:25,796 So, Lake, you said on the show, 1042 00:34:25,797 --> 00:34:27,732 you can see yourself ending up with a woman. 1043 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,200 Do you still feel that way? 1044 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:33,904 I mean, I'll end up with whoever I end up with. 1045 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,873 How did your family react to that? 1046 00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:39,510 So I love my dad so much. 1047 00:34:39,511 --> 00:34:41,712 We talk on the phone every single day. 1048 00:34:41,713 --> 00:34:44,149 We have a very, very close relationship. 1049 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,684 And I think that, like most fathers, 1050 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:48,919 they don't want to hear about your sex life, you know? 1051 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,388 Yeah, yeah. Of course. 1052 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:51,656 Like, most fathers, they don't want 1053 00:34:51,657 --> 00:34:53,023 to hear about your sex life. 1054 00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:56,327 And so having those conversations I didn't think 1055 00:34:56,328 --> 00:35:00,165 were, like, necessary for me. 1056 00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:05,670 And I think regarding coming out to them, it wasn't-- 1057 00:35:05,671 --> 00:35:07,705 like, I understand why people do that. 1058 00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:10,441 But for me, I'm like, in the back of my brain, 1059 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,377 like, straight people don't have to come out. 1060 00:35:12,378 --> 00:35:13,878 So why do I? - Yeah, right. 1061 00:35:13,879 --> 00:35:14,879 You know? 1062 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,647 I don't have to, like, you know? 1063 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:17,648 So-- 1064 00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:18,916 Yeah. 1065 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:20,885 What's happening with you and Brad these days? 1066 00:35:20,886 --> 00:35:22,520 He friend zoned you. 1067 00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:23,921 Yeah. 1068 00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:29,427 So, I mean, from my perspective, going into Vegas 1069 00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:32,197 and I knew where my head was, I figured, in comparison 1070 00:35:32,198 --> 00:35:33,864 to the years before, carry on with something 1071 00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:36,434 that I know I'm unsure of or be mature 1072 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:39,204 and, like, express where I'm at, tell him where I'm at 1073 00:35:39,205 --> 00:35:42,373 and do that immediately instead of waiting to the last second, 1074 00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:44,109 possibly ruining a friendship, possibly 1075 00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:45,510 ruining a relationship. 1076 00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:49,414 And so I-- that's why I decided to go into the friend 1077 00:35:49,415 --> 00:35:50,515 zone direction. 1078 00:35:50,516 --> 00:35:51,749 You want me to be so for real? 1079 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:52,750 - Be so for real. - Yes. 1080 00:35:52,751 --> 00:35:53,951 - I would love that. - OK. 1081 00:35:53,952 --> 00:35:56,787 So if I'm being so for real, I honestly 1082 00:35:56,788 --> 00:35:59,224 just thought that you were butthurt, 1083 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:01,926 that I had that, like little-- 1084 00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:03,829 little kiss with that other guy. 1085 00:36:06,232 --> 00:36:07,665 Do you want to see inside? 1086 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:08,633 Yeah. 1087 00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:09,668 Let's get a drink. 1088 00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:17,508 You know, and so you decided-- 1089 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:20,245 or were peer-pressured-- to kiss me. 1090 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:23,314 And then I knew before that we could 1091 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,983 never be, like, to a serious point 1092 00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:28,353 because you had a girlfriend. 1093 00:36:28,354 --> 00:36:29,354 Oh, my God. 1094 00:36:29,355 --> 00:36:30,755 That's insane. 1095 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:31,856 I did not have a girlfriend. 1096 00:36:31,857 --> 00:36:32,923 No, I did not have a girlfriend. 1097 00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:34,024 I heard that, though. 1098 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,493 You heard that? 1099 00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:36,927 I'm sure we all hear a lot of things that aren't true. 1100 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:38,796 I did not have a girlfriend this entire summer. 1101 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:40,631 The girl that I was talking to outside of you 1102 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,500 because we were not on an exclusive terms, 1103 00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:44,034 so I'm allowed to go on, like, dates with other people. 1104 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,403 Well, duh. 1105 00:36:45,404 --> 00:36:46,704 She was also seeing other people at the same time. 1106 00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:48,839 We were never in an exclusive relationship. 1107 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,342 If you wanted to ask her, you can ask her later today. 1108 00:36:51,343 --> 00:36:52,343 She's here now. 1109 00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:53,678 Now, we are currently dating. 1110 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,347 I do think that it was a little like, 1111 00:36:56,348 --> 00:36:59,083 OK, if I was shoddy, I would be kind of pissed. 1112 00:36:59,084 --> 00:37:00,585 Why? 1113 00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:02,019 She was hooking up with other people, so what was matter? 1114 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:03,288 - You know-- - If you were-- 1115 00:37:03,289 --> 00:37:04,489 You can ask her tonight. She'll be there. 1116 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:05,756 She'll be there tonight. She was-- 1117 00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:06,624 - I would be coming up. - with other people. 1118 00:37:06,625 --> 00:37:08,158 So I don't understand what-- 1119 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,561 I can understand, though why she couldn't take it seriously. 1120 00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:11,829 But I couldn't take it ever serious. 1121 00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:13,097 Take what? Us seriously? 1122 00:37:13,098 --> 00:37:14,299 - Yeah. - I mean-- 1123 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:15,800 He was someone like, yeah. 1124 00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:16,867 I get it. 1125 00:37:16,868 --> 00:37:18,135 That's fine. 1126 00:37:18,136 --> 00:37:19,870 And, like, I think we're in a place where like, 1127 00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:22,072 we're-- we're good, we're cordial, we're friends, you 1128 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:23,374 know, but I also was like-- 1129 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,109 I-- I'm confused on what's the point here. 1130 00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:26,110 The point to miss. 1131 00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:27,378 Oh, I'm not coming at him. 1132 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:28,713 When did you guys start dating though? 1133 00:37:28,714 --> 00:37:30,348 How was the chemistry? How was the kiss? 1134 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:31,349 Was that all that-- - Because-- 1135 00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:32,383 What? 1136 00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:33,384 Who? 1137 00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:34,419 Wait, what? 1138 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:35,621 I thought you guys-- 1139 00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:36,921 - No, girl. - No, girl. 1140 00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:38,789 - You know-- - Yeah. 1141 00:37:39,891 --> 00:37:41,326 I think it's kind of heartbreaking 1142 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:43,127 to see you on your own. 1143 00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:44,795 Like he's a smart guy. 1144 00:37:44,796 --> 00:37:47,332 To see him not show up after our talk yesterday 1145 00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:48,666 and not be here with you. 1146 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:50,235 It's like-- it's a little heartbreaking to see 1147 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:51,569 him do this all over again. 1148 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:05,550 We are back with the gang from Southern Hospitality. 1149 00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:09,520 This season, the name on everybody's lips was Will. 1150 00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:13,090 After more rumors surfaced about where his lips have been. 1151 00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:15,926 And even though Will's the one in law school, 1152 00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:18,563 Emmy became his public defender. 1153 00:38:18,564 --> 00:38:20,030 But he didn't always return the favor. 1154 00:38:20,031 --> 00:38:21,165 Watch. 1155 00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:22,467 Will and I couldn't be doing better. 1156 00:38:22,468 --> 00:38:23,601 Even a mocktail queen. 1157 00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:25,370 It's been over eight months. 1158 00:38:25,371 --> 00:38:27,004 It's a long time not drinking. 1159 00:38:27,005 --> 00:38:28,473 I don't think about it anymore. 1160 00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:30,375 And you work out, like, all the time now. 1161 00:38:30,376 --> 00:38:31,442 I just feel bad for her. 1162 00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:33,278 Like, I know, like, we've both heard 1163 00:38:33,379 --> 00:38:35,513 that, like, Will was running around badmouthing 1164 00:38:35,514 --> 00:38:36,981 her behind her back. 1165 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,016 They thought I was using my monthly credit 1166 00:38:39,017 --> 00:38:41,986 to buy all the new dresses, and then I was charging them-- 1167 00:38:41,987 --> 00:38:43,688 Getting reimbursed, and then pocketing the money? 1168 00:38:43,689 --> 00:38:44,689 Yeah. 1169 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:45,723 And you weren't doing that? 1170 00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:46,924 That's what I get. 1171 00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:50,395 That's what I get for being a good person. 1172 00:38:50,396 --> 00:38:51,496 Will, you're being a-- 1173 00:38:52,498 --> 00:38:53,598 boyfriend. 1174 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:54,732 Emmy is inside crying right now, 1175 00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:56,301 and you're just going to be like, nah. 1176 00:38:56,402 --> 00:38:57,868 Like, I'm going to let them figure it out. 1177 00:38:57,869 --> 00:38:58,936 Complete asshole. 1178 00:38:58,937 --> 00:39:01,005 Most of us in different situations 1179 00:39:01,006 --> 00:39:04,942 have heard Will talk negatively about you. 1180 00:39:04,943 --> 00:39:06,611 He said that he was unhappy in the relationship. 1181 00:39:06,612 --> 00:39:07,878 I did. 1182 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,480 And that you weren't his end all be all. 1183 00:39:09,481 --> 00:39:12,282 And he felt that you were, like, obsessed with yourself. 1184 00:39:12,283 --> 00:39:14,519 Everyone is claiming to be his friend, 1185 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,421 and Will is not here, so I don't 1186 00:39:16,422 --> 00:39:18,923 feel comfortable having a conversation about Will 1187 00:39:18,924 --> 00:39:21,326 when he's not here to speak for himself. 1188 00:39:21,427 --> 00:39:23,127 Baby, I'm sorry that everyone's attacking you. 1189 00:39:23,128 --> 00:39:25,830 I feel guilty because I feel like I 1190 00:39:25,831 --> 00:39:26,897 had a part to play in it. 1191 00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:28,599 It's really beating me down. 1192 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,034 I was out last night. 1193 00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,002 Ran into a couple people who just graduated law school. 1194 00:39:32,003 --> 00:39:34,038 They know-- they've been going to law school with Will. 1195 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:38,208 I straight up was told that he had cheated on Emmy 1196 00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:39,710 with somebody at a party. 1197 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:42,146 She says how Austin has it all twisted 1198 00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:46,016 because law school is so competitive that men 1199 00:39:46,017 --> 00:39:48,118 are creating rumors about each other 1200 00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,489 to see them fail in law school. 1201 00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:54,659 Emmy does mental gymnastics in order 1202 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:57,528 to justify anything that Will does because Will 1203 00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,996 is Emmy's identity. 1204 00:39:58,997 --> 00:40:01,499 And when someone's threatening that identity, 1205 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,269 she's able to bend and move the truth to fit her narrative 1206 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,037 so that her life doesn't change. 1207 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:08,172 I don't get a break. 1208 00:40:08,173 --> 00:40:09,339 Give me your hand. 1209 00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:10,508 I don't get a break from anything. 1210 00:40:10,509 --> 00:40:11,709 I know you were cheating on her 1211 00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:12,743 with the one that lives in your apartment 1212 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:13,744 that you took to prom. 1213 00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:15,412 I'm not accusing you. 1214 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:16,914 I am asking you. 1215 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,415 I let her stay in my apartment-- 1216 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:21,085 for two days in my apartment-- and I said, you need to be 1217 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:22,587 gone by the time I get back. 1218 00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:24,455 I bet you did the girl in the bathroom last year. 1219 00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:25,856 You piece of . 1220 00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:27,692 You get ready and I will be there for you, 1221 00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:29,360 but he's going to you over. 1222 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:36,801 To reset the scene, Will is here-- 1223 00:40:36,802 --> 00:40:38,235 Mhm. 1224 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:40,971 Somewhere on this floor, but he's not in here. 1225 00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:41,972 Mhm. 1226 00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:42,940 OK. 1227 00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:44,942 Because? 1228 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:47,177 His-- he-- his mental health can't take it. 1229 00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:51,181 And you know he's guilty as the day is right now, 1230 00:40:51,182 --> 00:40:52,883 not being here to help me. 1231 00:40:52,884 --> 00:40:55,486 But he's really-- he tried. 1232 00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:57,187 He came to New York. 1233 00:40:57,188 --> 00:40:58,689 He came to the studio. 1234 00:40:58,690 --> 00:41:00,357 He just he can't take it. 1235 00:41:00,358 --> 00:41:02,259 He really can't take it. 1236 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:04,394 OK, do you want to say anything about him 1237 00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:06,196 not being here, guys? 1238 00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:07,798 I think I would like to say something. 1239 00:41:07,799 --> 00:41:11,902 So, first of all, like Emmy, watching this season 1240 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:13,538 and being there, it-- 1241 00:41:13,539 --> 00:41:15,940 it really kind of hurts me. 1242 00:41:15,941 --> 00:41:18,676 It's kind of heartbreaking to see you on your own. 1243 00:41:18,677 --> 00:41:19,977 Like, you talk about his mental health. 1244 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,546 What about yours in a way, you know? 1245 00:41:21,547 --> 00:41:25,249 Like, I see you guys together and you guys can be so strong. 1246 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:26,617 He's a smart guy. 1247 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:27,618 Like, he's a tough guy. 1248 00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:29,053 He's run a marathon. 1249 00:41:29,054 --> 00:41:30,320 He's lost his best friends. 1250 00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:32,222 And he's been through really hard things. 1251 00:41:32,223 --> 00:41:33,758 And I've seen him overcome those things. 1252 00:41:33,759 --> 00:41:36,861 So to see him not show up after our talk yesterday not be here 1253 00:41:36,862 --> 00:41:39,163 with you, it's like-- it's a little heartbreaking to see 1254 00:41:39,164 --> 00:41:40,698 him do this all over again. 1255 00:41:40,699 --> 00:41:42,700 Obviously, I hate that you and Will went through this, 1256 00:41:42,701 --> 00:41:45,870 but I do think that sometimes with both you and Will, 1257 00:41:45,871 --> 00:41:47,204 you might have had a hard year. 1258 00:41:47,205 --> 00:41:48,473 And that's-- relationships are hard. 1259 00:41:48,574 --> 00:41:49,974 You had a tough year. 1260 00:41:49,975 --> 00:41:51,275 I think your friends wanted you to be a little bit more 1261 00:41:51,276 --> 00:41:52,376 transparent with them. 1262 00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:53,711 Like "yeah, it's been kind of weird, 1263 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:55,279 like we're trying to reconnect," blah, blah blah. 1264 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,582 And I think the constant being like, everything's perfect, 1265 00:41:57,583 --> 00:41:59,083 everything's perfect, made them feel 1266 00:41:59,084 --> 00:42:01,418 like it was a little bit like you were covering something up. 1267 00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:03,453 And I'm just letting you know from their perspective, 1268 00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:04,922 I hear you. 1269 00:42:04,923 --> 00:42:05,923 And I think that when they would ask you a question, 1270 00:42:05,924 --> 00:42:07,324 it was accusation. 1271 00:42:07,325 --> 00:42:08,959 When they would ask Will a question, it was accusation. 1272 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,728 As opposed to just being like, Oh, no, no, no, let me 1273 00:42:10,729 --> 00:42:11,929 explain that. 1274 00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:13,598 I get how that would look. - No, for sure. 1275 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:14,799 But like not the case. 1276 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,333 I think sometimes people forget that, 1277 00:42:16,334 --> 00:42:17,968 like, obviously Will and I are in a relationship, 1278 00:42:17,969 --> 00:42:20,838 but we have our own experiences within that relationship. 1279 00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:25,409 So let me ask you this, taking away any accusation 1280 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:29,346 about cheating, what is clear is that he went around 1281 00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:30,515 town talking you. 1282 00:42:30,616 --> 00:42:31,649 Yeah. 1283 00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:33,083 And saying terrible things about you 1284 00:42:33,084 --> 00:42:36,186 to various people in this group, to people publicly. 1285 00:42:36,187 --> 00:42:41,759 So why is it wrong for them to sit you down as friends 1286 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,129 and say, we are concerned about you. 1287 00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:49,033 This is happening publicly, and we know about it, 1288 00:42:49,034 --> 00:42:51,101 and we don't know that you do. 1289 00:42:51,102 --> 00:42:52,102 I think-- 1290 00:43:06,484 --> 00:43:10,955 What is clear is that he went around town talking you 1291 00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:12,522 and saying terrible things about 1292 00:43:12,523 --> 00:43:17,094 you to various people in this group, to people publicly. 1293 00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:22,499 So why is it wrong for them to sit you down as friends 1294 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:28,038 and say, we know about it, and we don't know that you do. 1295 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,373 I think-- 1296 00:43:29,374 --> 00:43:32,109 I'm not denying that what Will did didn't hurt me. 1297 00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:33,077 OK. 1298 00:43:33,078 --> 00:43:34,679 That was never my intention. 1299 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,380 What Will did hurt me. 1300 00:43:36,381 --> 00:43:37,915 OK. 1301 00:43:37,916 --> 00:43:44,088 But what hurt them more was the fact that my friends then-- 1302 00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:47,391 and, you know, whatever they felt like 1303 00:43:47,392 --> 00:43:49,559 and why they didn't tell me when they did, that's for them. 1304 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,529 But what hurt them most was that they waited three months 1305 00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:54,331 to then tell me at a dinner table 1306 00:43:54,332 --> 00:43:55,465 in front of all these people. 1307 00:43:55,466 --> 00:43:56,901 And it's like, I don't-- 1308 00:43:56,902 --> 00:43:58,335 - Actually, Michols said-- - I had that conversation-- 1309 00:43:58,336 --> 00:43:59,336 I'm talking about Michols. 1310 00:43:59,337 --> 00:44:01,238 Yeah, but OK, OK, hold on. 1311 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,908 But in your retelling-- hold on, hold on. 1312 00:44:03,909 --> 00:44:05,409 In your retelling of it-- 1313 00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:06,711 We're involved. 1314 00:44:06,712 --> 00:44:09,446 You said, why didn't anyone say that this 1315 00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:10,615 was done out of care? 1316 00:44:10,716 --> 00:44:13,017 Why wasn't anyone asking if I was OK? 1317 00:44:13,018 --> 00:44:15,119 And the editors kind of showed-- 1318 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,486 Yeah, because that was-- 1319 00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:17,788 Them saying exactly those things to your face. 1320 00:44:17,789 --> 00:44:19,556 It has nothing to do with-- everything, 1321 00:44:19,557 --> 00:44:21,191 it was everything before-- 1322 00:44:21,192 --> 00:44:24,261 before the lake house ever happened, that was my voice. 1323 00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:26,196 That my voice being like, why did this not 1324 00:44:26,197 --> 00:44:28,498 happen before the lake house should have been 1325 00:44:28,499 --> 00:44:29,734 added on to that sentence. 1326 00:44:29,735 --> 00:44:31,268 We never planned on talking about it. 1327 00:44:31,269 --> 00:44:32,637 So this is a thing-- 1328 00:44:32,738 --> 00:44:34,104 Yeah, but couldn't you say in front of us and say, 1329 00:44:34,105 --> 00:44:35,539 I forgave him. And that's that. 1330 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,774 Because we already know. 1331 00:44:36,775 --> 00:44:37,875 We already know. 1332 00:44:37,876 --> 00:44:39,276 OK hold on, let Michols speak. 1333 00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:40,577 But we were-- 1334 00:44:40,578 --> 00:44:42,212 We were at work one night-- we're at work 1335 00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:43,948 one night and we're closing. 1336 00:44:43,949 --> 00:44:45,615 Will is in. He's drunk. 1337 00:44:45,616 --> 00:44:46,984 Joe's drunk. He's in the back. 1338 00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:47,985 He was off the clock. 1339 00:44:47,986 --> 00:44:49,353 Off work that night. 1340 00:44:49,354 --> 00:44:51,355 It was me, Maddi, closing with Siobhan. 1341 00:44:51,356 --> 00:44:54,624 Will is talking Emmy at the bar to us. 1342 00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:56,593 Maddi hits me and goes, "you're not 1343 00:44:56,594 --> 00:44:57,962 going to defend your friend?" 1344 00:44:57,963 --> 00:45:00,564 I said, not our relationship, not our business. 1345 00:45:00,565 --> 00:45:04,068 Emmy expressing her hurt, saying that, like, 1346 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:05,369 this was brought to her. 1347 00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:07,637 I'm personally hurt in the friendship 1348 00:45:07,638 --> 00:45:10,507 that we were so close, that you never came to me 1349 00:45:10,508 --> 00:45:12,342 and told me that you dealt with this. 1350 00:45:12,343 --> 00:45:13,678 We tell each other everything. 1351 00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:15,145 And then something big like this 1352 00:45:15,146 --> 00:45:16,881 happens, and then you don't tell me. 1353 00:45:16,882 --> 00:45:18,515 So then I'm sitting on this information. 1354 00:45:18,516 --> 00:45:19,817 I'm hearing multiple stories. 1355 00:45:19,818 --> 00:45:22,219 We have a dinner with Will to tell him, 1356 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:24,054 to give him a heads up, not knowing 1357 00:45:24,055 --> 00:45:25,589 they have their own story. 1358 00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:27,457 And then the whole time, this whole summer, 1359 00:45:27,458 --> 00:45:29,193 you're pointing your finger at me 1360 00:45:29,194 --> 00:45:32,096 like I'm the one that did all this , when, actuality, 1361 00:45:32,097 --> 00:45:33,798 I was just as hurt as you because you 1362 00:45:33,799 --> 00:45:35,933 didn't tell me any of this was ever going on. 1363 00:45:35,934 --> 00:45:40,237 Now, now, so they brought this to you, this information 1364 00:45:40,238 --> 00:45:43,841 that they all were witnesses to, that upset them. 1365 00:45:43,842 --> 00:45:48,545 They then hear from Austin this rumor that Will is-- 1366 00:45:48,546 --> 00:45:50,380 you know, banged some girl at a party 1367 00:45:50,381 --> 00:45:51,849 in the bathroom or something. 1368 00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:56,186 And what they all decided to do was not 1369 00:45:56,187 --> 00:46:00,725 bring it to you because they knew that it had 1370 00:46:00,826 --> 00:46:03,360 hurt your feelings last time. 1371 00:46:03,361 --> 00:46:06,663 We are going to not tell Emmy. 1372 00:46:06,664 --> 00:46:09,599 Did that make you feel better about-- 1373 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,567 I would-- 1374 00:46:10,568 --> 00:46:12,336 the way they handled that? 1375 00:46:12,337 --> 00:46:13,670 At the time. 1376 00:46:13,671 --> 00:46:17,574 I-- like, last season, Mia was not my best friend. 1377 00:46:17,575 --> 00:46:19,443 This was not my best friend. 1378 00:46:19,444 --> 00:46:20,945 OK. 1379 00:46:20,946 --> 00:46:27,384 TJ, like, is a person who, if he had come to me and we had 1380 00:46:27,385 --> 00:46:29,854 a moment in Vegas where, like, he could have sat me down and 1381 00:46:29,855 --> 00:46:31,721 been, like, I need to let you know about this-- 1382 00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:33,123 and I understand there's other reasons 1383 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,724 why we never got that moment. 1384 00:46:34,725 --> 00:46:36,260 There's a production. 1385 00:46:36,261 --> 00:46:38,095 There's things-- like, there's only so much time to do it. 1386 00:46:38,096 --> 00:46:39,463 You think you would have been receptive to that in Vegas? 1387 00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:40,464 Yes, yes. It's TJ. 1388 00:46:40,465 --> 00:46:41,665 Wait. 1389 00:46:41,666 --> 00:46:42,867 Because of the level of our friendship, 1390 00:46:42,868 --> 00:46:44,734 you didn't take my seriously? 1391 00:46:44,735 --> 00:46:46,270 - What? - Damn. 1392 00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:47,872 Because I wasn't your best friend, 1393 00:46:47,873 --> 00:46:49,006 what I said to you last season, there's an issue about it. 1394 00:46:49,007 --> 00:46:50,507 Yes. 1395 00:46:50,508 --> 00:46:52,877 There's a part of me that was skeptical about the fact 1396 00:46:52,878 --> 00:46:54,211 that, you know-- 1397 00:46:54,212 --> 00:46:55,946 Girl, I went and showed you the text messages. 1398 00:46:55,947 --> 00:46:57,214 I was skeptical, Mia. 1399 00:46:57,215 --> 00:46:58,582 I was very skeptical. - OK. 1400 00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:00,117 And, you know-- 1401 00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:01,218 I do think it matters kind of who it comes from, I guess. 1402 00:47:01,219 --> 00:47:03,420 OK, so you're telling me that if TJ-- 1403 00:47:03,421 --> 00:47:05,222 I should have given you my phone then to show her. 1404 00:47:05,223 --> 00:47:06,723 OK. 1405 00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:08,392 You're telling me that if TJ had told you this in Vegas, 1406 00:47:08,393 --> 00:47:10,660 you would have been fine hearing it? 1407 00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:12,696 I wouldn't have-- it's the audience. 1408 00:47:12,697 --> 00:47:14,131 It's having a group-- 1409 00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:16,766 you know, to have a moment and to respect my privacy. 1410 00:47:16,767 --> 00:47:18,135 I get we're on a TV show. 1411 00:47:18,136 --> 00:47:20,604 But to respect my privacy and have a one on one, 1412 00:47:20,605 --> 00:47:23,407 I would be tenfold more-- 1413 00:47:23,408 --> 00:47:24,408 like, I-- 1414 00:47:24,409 --> 00:47:25,642 You don't listen. 1415 00:47:25,643 --> 00:47:26,911 You haven't listened to us this entire time. 1416 00:47:26,912 --> 00:47:28,345 Because everything has been-- 1417 00:47:28,346 --> 00:47:29,914 TJ, do you think she would have been receptive to you 1418 00:47:29,915 --> 00:47:31,115 sitting her down with them? 1419 00:47:31,116 --> 00:47:32,283 I really don't, not if it was on camera. 1420 00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:37,321 Now, who here believes the rumor still? 1421 00:47:37,322 --> 00:47:40,324 It was said that law school is very competitive. 1422 00:47:40,325 --> 00:47:42,626 People are making stuff up. 1423 00:47:42,627 --> 00:47:44,194 Who believes it? 1424 00:47:44,195 --> 00:47:47,364 Brad and Lake and Austin. 1425 00:47:47,365 --> 00:47:48,632 OK. 1426 00:47:48,633 --> 00:47:50,034 And you do not believe it, right? 1427 00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:51,035 No. 1428 00:47:51,036 --> 00:47:52,569 No, you absolutely do not. 1429 00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:55,105 So the text that I received from people that are in law 1430 00:47:55,106 --> 00:47:57,607 school, in his class, that know who William 1431 00:47:57,608 --> 00:47:59,476 Kulp is is all bull-. 1432 00:47:59,477 --> 00:48:01,979 When they say that there is a brunette that he is hanging out 1433 00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:03,848 with, that he is with all the time, 1434 00:48:03,949 --> 00:48:05,415 that has stayed in his apartment, 1435 00:48:05,416 --> 00:48:08,018 that he has been study buddies with, that's all bull-. 1436 00:48:08,019 --> 00:48:09,186 They made that out of thin air? 1437 00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:10,187 You think that? 1438 00:48:10,188 --> 00:48:11,188 That's my question. 1439 00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:24,534 So the text that I received from people that are in law 1440 00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:27,037 school, in his class, that know who William 1441 00:48:27,038 --> 00:48:28,973 Kulp is is all bull-. 1442 00:48:28,974 --> 00:48:31,441 When they say that there is a brunette that he is hanging out 1443 00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,177 with, that he is with all the time, 1444 00:48:33,178 --> 00:48:34,711 that has stayed in his apartment, 1445 00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:37,247 that he has been study buddies with, that's all bull-. 1446 00:48:37,248 --> 00:48:38,582 They made that out of thin air? 1447 00:48:38,583 --> 00:48:40,150 You think that? 1448 00:48:40,151 --> 00:48:43,387 So the point that Will is on campus with the brunette, OK, 1449 00:48:43,388 --> 00:48:44,788 he has female classmates. 1450 00:48:44,789 --> 00:48:46,056 I get it. 1451 00:48:46,057 --> 00:48:47,557 You know, the show was airing at the time too. 1452 00:48:47,558 --> 00:48:49,059 Season two was airing. 1453 00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:51,295 And there was another cheating rumor in a bathroom airing 1454 00:48:51,296 --> 00:48:53,230 in January and February. 1455 00:48:53,231 --> 00:48:55,332 Now it's being portrayed to a bathroom 1456 00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:57,001 at a party and law school. 1457 00:48:57,002 --> 00:48:58,002 And I mean, I'm living with this man. 1458 00:48:58,003 --> 00:48:59,136 I'm living with this. 1459 00:48:59,137 --> 00:49:00,004 You're not holding on to that rumor. 1460 00:49:00,005 --> 00:49:01,106 He can't even-- 1461 00:49:01,906 --> 00:49:03,240 he can't even get his pants on. 1462 00:49:03,241 --> 00:49:03,873 I mean, you know what I mean? - That's right. 1463 00:49:03,874 --> 00:49:05,109 I don't know. 1464 00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:07,777 OK, do you still think TJ is a miserable leech? 1465 00:49:07,778 --> 00:49:09,146 I think I was mean. 1466 00:49:09,147 --> 00:49:10,614 I think Joe said a similar thing at one point. 1467 00:49:10,615 --> 00:49:12,116 He called him a rat. 1468 00:49:12,117 --> 00:49:14,418 I mean, like, it's not that far off, a leech and a rat. 1469 00:49:14,419 --> 00:49:16,287 Like, they're both in the streets, no? 1470 00:49:18,723 --> 00:49:20,024 That's not, like, shady. 1471 00:49:20,025 --> 00:49:21,025 But I'm just saying, like-- 1472 00:49:21,026 --> 00:49:22,026 Maddi. 1473 00:49:22,027 --> 00:49:23,027 Maddi, stop. 1474 00:49:23,028 --> 00:49:24,028 OK. 1475 00:49:24,029 --> 00:49:25,029 Where are you in TJ now? 1476 00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:26,196 Have you-- 1477 00:49:26,197 --> 00:49:28,432 I don't remember this leech thing. 1478 00:49:28,433 --> 00:49:29,433 I remember 33 alone. 1479 00:49:29,434 --> 00:49:30,834 - Who said that? - OK. 1480 00:49:30,835 --> 00:49:31,835 Emmy's about to speak. 1481 00:49:31,836 --> 00:49:32,836 Is she? 1482 00:49:32,837 --> 00:49:34,204 - I guess this means-- - Yeah. 1483 00:49:34,205 --> 00:49:35,205 She's not about to speak. 1484 00:49:35,206 --> 00:49:36,241 you haven't. 1485 00:49:37,942 --> 00:49:38,908 Girl. 1486 00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:40,210 Please shut the up. 1487 00:49:40,211 --> 00:49:41,378 - Emmy-- - Shut up, Lake. 1488 00:49:41,379 --> 00:49:42,679 Breathe, breathe. Emmy. 1489 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,747 - Come on. - Emmy. 1490 00:49:43,748 --> 00:49:45,115 You don't know what this is like. 1491 00:49:45,116 --> 00:49:46,616 You have no space to judge. 1492 00:49:46,617 --> 00:49:47,617 Breathe, breathe. 1493 00:49:47,618 --> 00:49:49,319 You have no space. 1494 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,589 You don't know what this is like. 1495 00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:54,491 No one's supposed to go through this. 1496 00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:57,361 No normal person is supposed to go through this. 1497 00:49:57,362 --> 00:49:59,096 This isn't normal. 1498 00:49:59,097 --> 00:50:01,398 Having issues in your life and living it then 1499 00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:04,768 for the next year, for people to judge and have opinions 1500 00:50:04,769 --> 00:50:06,203 of it, it's not normal. 1501 00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:08,439 - It's not. - It's not easy. 1502 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,375 - Emmy, breathe, breathe. - Isn't it so-- 1503 00:50:11,376 --> 00:50:12,443 You're not breathing. 1504 00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:15,479 Breathe. 1505 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,581 It's so-- it's so hard. 1506 00:50:17,582 --> 00:50:18,582 It is . 1507 00:50:20,751 --> 00:50:21,751 Here. 1508 00:50:21,752 --> 00:50:22,953 Emmy, Emmy, Emmy. 1509 00:50:24,089 --> 00:50:26,156 I don't think anyone's relationship 1510 00:50:26,157 --> 00:50:28,958 could have survived this if it wasn't strong enough. 1511 00:50:28,959 --> 00:50:30,760 I don't think anyone. - I agree. 1512 00:50:30,761 --> 00:50:31,861 I don't think anyone. 1513 00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:34,131 I'm not asking about you and Will. 1514 00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:35,832 I was asking where you are with TJ. 1515 00:50:35,833 --> 00:50:37,634 I don't know where I am with them. 1516 00:50:37,635 --> 00:50:38,735 I thought they were my friends. 1517 00:50:38,736 --> 00:50:39,736 Breathe. 1518 00:50:39,737 --> 00:50:40,737 I thought they-- and listen. 1519 00:50:40,738 --> 00:50:41,738 We all thought the same thing. 1520 00:50:41,739 --> 00:50:42,739 And know what? 1521 00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:43,908 I felt the same way. 1522 00:50:44,909 --> 00:50:45,609 You know, it goes beyond this. 1523 00:50:45,610 --> 00:50:46,510 It's not even that. 1524 00:50:46,511 --> 00:50:50,447 It's like-- Will up. 1525 00:50:50,448 --> 00:50:52,416 And I know he up. 1526 00:50:52,417 --> 00:50:54,784 And it's that he did that. 1527 00:50:54,785 --> 00:50:56,653 But you have to, like-- 1528 00:50:56,654 --> 00:51:00,357 the fact that there is just, like, no grace at all. 1529 00:51:00,358 --> 00:51:02,259 And I'm crazy for giving Will grace 1530 00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:04,529 for what he was going through. 1531 00:51:06,764 --> 00:51:08,232 I don't think anyone's expressed that. 1532 00:51:08,233 --> 00:51:09,433 Who said that? 1533 00:51:09,434 --> 00:51:10,700 I don't think anybody's expressed that. 1534 00:51:10,701 --> 00:51:11,736 I'm just-- 1535 00:51:16,274 --> 00:51:18,442 I don't know where I am with TJ and Brad. 1536 00:51:18,443 --> 00:51:19,576 That's the question. 1537 00:51:19,577 --> 00:51:21,511 I miss them. 1538 00:51:21,512 --> 00:51:23,180 It's been a-- 1539 00:51:23,181 --> 00:51:25,049 I just spent-- it's been lonely. 1540 00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,750 She cries when she talks about you guys. 1541 00:51:26,751 --> 00:51:28,152 And he's the biggest thing. 1542 00:51:28,153 --> 00:51:29,886 I might have lost them. - Let me take a deep breath. 1543 00:51:29,887 --> 00:51:30,887 - Take a deep breathe. - Here's the thing. 1544 00:51:30,888 --> 00:51:31,888 Breathe. Here, breathe. 1545 00:51:31,889 --> 00:51:33,023 We finished with-- 1546 00:51:34,325 --> 00:51:35,459 With all of Will's problems, he always came to them. 1547 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:36,460 Wait, breathe. 1548 00:51:36,461 --> 00:51:37,561 And he lost his best friends. 1549 00:51:37,562 --> 00:51:38,562 OK, OK. 1550 00:51:38,563 --> 00:51:40,064 I need-- I think-- 1551 00:51:40,165 --> 00:51:43,267 Emmy, Emmy, I think you need to stop carrying Will's pain 1552 00:51:43,268 --> 00:51:44,968 so much because you're going to have a breakdown. 1553 00:51:44,969 --> 00:51:46,003 You need to just-- 1554 00:51:47,238 --> 00:51:49,573 Listen, you just said right now Will needs 1555 00:51:49,574 --> 00:51:51,508 to put his own oxygen mask on. 1556 00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:53,177 You do not put your own oxygen mask on. 1557 00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:54,544 Right. 1558 00:51:54,545 --> 00:51:58,448 You carry Will's stuff so deeply, so severely that you 1559 00:51:58,449 --> 00:51:59,716 will have a breakdown. 1560 00:51:59,717 --> 00:52:00,984 You need to stop doing that. 1561 00:52:00,985 --> 00:52:02,286 I'm telling you. 1562 00:52:02,287 --> 00:52:04,421 That is what will destroy your relationship. 1563 00:52:04,422 --> 00:52:06,456 That is what will destroy your marriage. 1564 00:52:06,457 --> 00:52:07,824 You need to stop. 1565 00:52:07,825 --> 00:52:09,959 Like, empathy, carrying Will's stuff-- 1566 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,994 Will made a mistake. 1567 00:52:10,995 --> 00:52:12,229 That's fine. 1568 00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:13,963 Nobody-- Will's not here for us to talk about it. 1569 00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:16,933 You need-- everyone's talking to you about your friendship. 1570 00:52:16,934 --> 00:52:19,269 He just asked you about your friendship with TJ. 1571 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:21,004 Stop worrying about Will right now. 1572 00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:22,005 - It's not even-- - Will's not here. 1573 00:52:22,006 --> 00:52:23,373 I think this-- 1574 00:52:23,374 --> 00:52:24,674 - So just-- - It's the-- 1575 00:52:24,675 --> 00:52:25,742 I feel like you're-- 1576 00:52:25,743 --> 00:52:26,676 I'm in a relationship with him. 1577 00:52:26,677 --> 00:52:27,845 It's me too. 1578 00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:29,713 Like, this is-- I'm talking about myself. 1579 00:52:29,714 --> 00:52:30,980 Of course, of course. 1580 00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:32,316 And so in my storytelling about myself, 1581 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:33,817 I include him because he's the other aspect in it. 1582 00:52:33,818 --> 00:52:34,818 I'm just trying to-- 1583 00:52:34,819 --> 00:52:36,220 I'm not here to defend him. 1584 00:52:36,221 --> 00:52:38,455 I'm not here to defend Will. 1585 00:52:38,456 --> 00:52:39,556 He up. 1586 00:52:39,557 --> 00:52:40,524 OK. 1587 00:52:40,525 --> 00:52:42,058 He is ashamed. 1588 00:52:42,059 --> 00:52:44,528 And as far as my relationship with TJ and Brad, I don't know. 1589 00:52:44,529 --> 00:52:46,563 Because for me, I can't be dating-- 1590 00:52:46,564 --> 00:52:47,797 well, not that we're dating. 1591 00:52:47,798 --> 00:52:49,266 I didn't mean to point to you like that. 1592 00:52:49,267 --> 00:52:52,369 But I can't be dating a man who has issues with people 1593 00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:53,537 and then also be friends with them. 1594 00:52:53,538 --> 00:52:54,538 Yeah, that's right. 1595 00:52:54,539 --> 00:52:56,005 So ultimately, Will and I both 1596 00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:57,974 have to be friends with Brad and TJ, 1597 00:52:57,975 --> 00:53:01,044 and I don't know if that's possible. 1598 00:53:01,045 --> 00:53:04,648 Anything else that anyone wants to get off their chest? 1599 00:53:04,649 --> 00:53:06,616 I see so much potential in you. 1600 00:53:06,617 --> 00:53:07,884 And I see, like, a strong woman. 1601 00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:08,985 And I see that-- 1602 00:53:08,986 --> 00:53:10,520 I feel like it's buried a little bit. 1603 00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:13,089 But I think, with mending the friendships 1604 00:53:13,090 --> 00:53:14,491 that you have in this core group, 1605 00:53:14,492 --> 00:53:16,993 I think we could see her again. 1606 00:53:16,994 --> 00:53:19,896 One thing that I did hear over and over this season 1607 00:53:19,897 --> 00:53:23,933 from the whole group, especially the guys, 1608 00:53:23,934 --> 00:53:27,471 is how much they love you and how much they care about you 1609 00:53:27,472 --> 00:53:30,174 and that they're trying to be protective of you. 1610 00:53:30,275 --> 00:53:32,342 And it may have come out-- 1611 00:53:32,343 --> 00:53:35,179 it may not have landed on any level with you 1612 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,615 in any of the situations, but it was a recurring theme 1613 00:53:38,616 --> 00:53:41,084 in terms of their motivations. 1614 00:53:41,085 --> 00:53:43,487 So I think that's something that you can maybe 1615 00:53:43,488 --> 00:53:45,021 carry with you, and I hope that you 1616 00:53:45,022 --> 00:53:48,024 can get your relationships back with these guys, 1617 00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:51,094 because it seems real. 1618 00:53:51,095 --> 00:53:53,930 Leva, I can't wait to get bottle service at Republic. 1619 00:53:53,931 --> 00:53:54,931 Yes, come to Charleston. 1620 00:53:54,932 --> 00:53:55,999 I will. 1621 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,066 You have to experience it, Andy. 1622 00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:58,802 We love to host you, Andy. 1623 00:53:58,803 --> 00:54:01,338 That is a wrap on a great season 3. 1624 00:54:01,339 --> 00:54:04,208 I want to thank Leva and the entire "Southern Hospitality" 1625 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:05,442 gang for being here. 1626 00:54:05,443 --> 00:54:06,510 I'm Andy Cohen.