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[Judge DiMango] You breed French bulldogs.

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She wasn't gonna pay me
and I never got nothing.

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We never talked about money.

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Did you make any derogatory
or racist comments?

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I guess, yeah.

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I mean, I'm not saying I'm perfect, so...

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What was it like being racially vilified?

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I had a mental break pretty much.

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How do you stoop to a level
where you insult everybody?

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[announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice.

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["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]

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[announcer] Today's case was filed
in Delray Beach, Florida.

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[Byrd] Your Honor,
this is case number 2022

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on the calendar in the matter
of Meneses versus Pettway.

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- Thank you, Byrd.
- You're welcome, Judge.

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Parties have been sworn in.
You may be seated.

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Ms. Meneses,
you breed French bulldogs?

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Yes.

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[Judge DiMango]
You had some puppies from a litter.

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And, Ms. Pettway, you work
in an animal clinic as a receptionist,

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- and that's how the two of you met.
- Yes.

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[Judge DiMango] And you actually sold her
a French bulldog for $2,000.

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- Yes.
- You did this pursuant to a payment plan.

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And after six months,
all she paid was $150.

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And I have a photograph here
of you, ma'am, holding her.

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And that's the dog with her sibling,
I would guess.

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[Joneisha] Correct.

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[Judge DiMango] What did you name the dog?

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- Pink.
- [Judge DiMango] Pink?

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Okay. So you say
there was no payment plan.

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You just agreed you were gonna pay
whatever it is you could pay

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when you could pay it.

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And then she started demanding payment
and so you gave the puppy to your cousin

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and she refused
to take payments from the cousin.

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In fact, she even had
a police officer call

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and basically threaten you
to give the dog back.

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You feel, at this point,
you owe her nothing.

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Tell us how this unfolded.

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How did you first encounter her?

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As--April of 2023, that's when I took
my Frenchies to get their shots.

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In that particular litter,
how many dogs did you have?

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- Six dogs in total.
- Six dogs.

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So the first time you go in April,
what did she say?

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She said, "I'll make payment arrangements.

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I can't afford the whole thing
but promise to pay."

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And I agreed with her and I said,
"Well, every time you get paid,

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you can pay me like 200
or even a hundred,"

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but she never called me.

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- She never...
- So I'm gonna pause you.

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How much did you make a week?

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Probably about $450 a week.

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Okay. So you knew
that's gonna cost you how much money?

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We never came up
with a actual agreement when we first met.

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[Judge DiMango] She never told you $2,000?

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She--we--she kept--
like, first, she said $3,000.

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Then like another time she came,
she said a different price.

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- Then she kept going...
- So what did the--

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what was the last price that she gave you?

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She said, "I'm about to give
the dog away for free."

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Let me ask you something,
how much really do French bulldogs go for?

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About $3,500 and up, especially a girl.

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- A girl is more.
- [Judge DiMango] Yeah.

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- Girls are more.
- [Katherine] Yeah.

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Because, of course,
women are more valuable.

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- Exactly. Thank you.
- [laughter]

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[Judge DiMango] So you take a female,

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and the bottom line is
a woman who isn't your friend,

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you don't really know you think
is gonna give you what, a $3,500 gift?

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Please. In fact,
we have text messages here

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where you, in fact, agree
to make these payments with her.

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Would that be correct, Ms. Pettway?

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Yes. Um, but as I stated before,
we didn't come up with...

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[Judge DiMango] You write here,
"Hey, my love.

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I just paid rent and my bills.

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But the next check,
I should be able to give you more money."

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So you knew you had to pay her.

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Um, well, originally,
when I got the dog, she said,

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"I'm about to give the dog away for free."

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That's what made me agree.

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She says,
"If you can't afford to drop her,

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bring her back and I'll refund you.

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Or you could have said, I can't afford it.

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Would have just been nice
and say don't worry.

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I don't wanna tell my daughter
that I gave a puppy away for free.

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She would have a fit."

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In other words, what she's saying to you
is if you don't give me any money,

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I'm gonna have to explain to someone
that I gave this away.

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And you're saying, no,
you don't have any money for her.

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And she says, "That's wrong.

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I thought you were straight.
I was like she works at the vet."

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I'm not gonna read the rest
of what you said after that.

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- All right.
- [Judge DiMango] The bottom line here,

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after this, she says,
"I've got someone who wants to pay.

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You have not attempted
one time to contact me.

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I was not about to give her away."

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Originally, before we left--
like before I left my job,

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the fact that she said,
"I'm about to just,"--

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she said that none
of the dogs are selling.

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"I'm about to give the dog away for free."

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Once she said that, I said,
"Well, if you're giving her away for free,

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then I'll come get her today after work."

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She said, "Okay,
I'll text you my address."

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I gave her my number.
She texted me her address.

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I went over there to pick up the dog.

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When we picked up the dog,
we never explained--she never--

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we never talked about money.

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She gave me the dog.
She gave me the paperwork.

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She said, "Pay whatever."
She didn't say pay--well, yeah.

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[Judge DiMango] She said pay.

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And then, at some point, you say
you gave it to your cousin, correct?

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Yes. And then she actually tried
to make payments with her,

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but she said that
she didn't wanna deal with her.

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[Judge DiMango] How did she do that?

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'Cause I gave her number.

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Did anybody try to make payments with you?

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They did but I said,
"I made the deal with her."

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I didn't wanna make the deal
with nobody else.

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She could have sold her elsewhere,
and she says it in here.

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- You had a buyer, right?
- I wanna keep her too. Yeah, exactly.

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[Judge DiMango] How much did you get
for the other puppies?

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- About $3,500 and up.
- [Judge DiMango] So she...

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And I--and I actually
did sell them all, so...

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She could have sold that puppy for $3,500.

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You didn't have a right to say,

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"I'm gonna give it to somebody else
who will pay you $2,000."

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When I did try to give the dog back,

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she actually the one who said,
"Well, you don't have to.

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If you say you could send me something,
then you can send me something."

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We did have my cousin
reach out trying to pay her.

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But I was going through a lot of stuff.

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- I lost my car--yeah.
- [Judge DiMango] I know. You know what?

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I see it right here. This is you.

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"Money has been tight
and we discussed before

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that I can make payments when I can.

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I'm not rich.

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We talked about this.

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You said it yourself,"--
this is you, of course, thinking.

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"You were about
to give her away for free."

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And, of course, she follows that up

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with explaining that
that's not what she said,

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- correct, ma'am?
- No, not what I meant.

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I mean, I don't think you thought
you were gonna get the dog

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for $150, did you?

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- No.
- [Judge DiMango] No.

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So you knew you didn't really carry
through your end of the bargain either.

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Yeah. She just said--
when she say pay whatever,

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I just was--
thought I was doing the right thing,

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which was actually trying to give her
what I already didn't have.

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So that was money
that I didn't even have all the way.

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But in truth, over six or seven months,

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you never had even $10 more to give her?

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I probably could have but I thought
that would have been kinda...

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[Judge DiMango] Yeah.
So, see, that's my point.

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When you take on an obligation
and you kind of really say,

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"I don't really care,"
are you a good person in this situation?

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Judge Levy.

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Ms. Meneses, are you
a good person in this case?

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[announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice.

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Explain to me
how you are not a bald-faced liar.

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[theme music plays]

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[announcer] Dog breeder
Katherine Meneses,

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claims Joneisha Pettway owes her $2,000

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or the return of her French bulldog puppy.

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Joneisha says she agreed to pay Katherine
whatever and whenever she could.

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Ms. Meneses, are you
a good person in this case?

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Yes. I believe so.

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[Judge Levy]
And you've done nothing wrong?

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- [Katherine] No.
- As the plaintiff in this case,

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you know it's your burden to prove
that you're entitled

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to what you're asking for, $2,000, right?

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That's the price that you claim,

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you agreed on
with the defendant for this dog.

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Yes. Correct.

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[Judge Levy] Show me a contract,
a bill of sale, a text message,

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an email in which you
and the defendant agreed

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for you to sell and for her
to purchase this dog for $2,000.

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- Oh, I got it right here.
- [Judge Levy] Yup.

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Not the total price on there but...

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[Judge Levy] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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In order for you to win this lawsuit,

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you have to prove
that the meeting of the minds

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included the price of the dog.

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I'm telling you I have nothing.

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My colleagues have nothing.

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I don't--well, actually
it was worded by mouth, so...

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- So you don't have anything...
- [Katherine] No.

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... in writing but you heard
the defendant a moment ago,

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Ms. Pettway, who said
the price was never discussed.

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What she said was you first wanted $3,000

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and then you dropped it down to $2,000.

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- Do you remember her testimony?
- Oh, yes.

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[Judge Levy] Was that truthful
or was that a lie?

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- Oh, that's truthful.
- [Judge Levy] Right.

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A moment ago, you told Judge DiMango
that these dogs go for $3,500, right?

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- And up, yeah. The...
- [Judge Levy] Right.

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But you couldn't sell the dog for $3,500
when you gave it to the defendant, right?

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Actually, I could. That was a--
that was a lie that she state--stated.

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I could sell the dogs.

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Well, no, you hadn't up to that point
sold the dog for $3,500.

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- Uh-hmm.
- That's why you say that you offer $2,000

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and she agreed, right?

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- Yes.
- [Judge Levy] But she's saying

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that you never said a price
and you are denying that

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- 'cause you did set a price.
- No. I set a price over the phone.

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- That's a--that's a lie.
- [Judge Levy] You did say a price, right?

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- Correct.
- [Judge Levy] And you know that

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and you are as sure of that fact

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as you are about the rest
of your testimony.

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Yes. Correct.

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[Judge Levy] You can't think
of any text message

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that you sent the defendant
that contradicts that claim, can you?

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- Uh, no.
- [Judge Levy] Really?

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- I mean, I gotta look through...
- [Judge Levy] Why don't you take a look

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on your plaintiff's exhibit number three,
a text from August 17th.

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Plaintiff, "I gave you the Frenchie,
nobody else.

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I have your cash.

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I have your money right now.

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I don't want payments from anyone else.

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I will keep her myself.

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Someone was interested
and has full amount.

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I never said a price."

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Explain to me how you
are not a bald-faced liar.

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- Explain that to me.
- I did say it after--afterwards.

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I'm not asking whether you said it
afterwards or not.

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- Well, you could...
- [Judge Levy] You sent her a text...

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Levy] ... in which you said

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and admitted that you never set a price.

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So when she testified to that
a moment ago with Judge DiMango,

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- she was being truthful.
- [Katherine] Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Levy] Now, there was another text

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the defendant sent to us
and it was in July.

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You said, "I thought you were straight.

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I was like, oh, she works for a vet."

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That's where Judge DiMango stopped.

236
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,934
But you went on, "Oh, she works at a vet.

237
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She will not Jew me."

238
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- That's the text that you sent, right?
- Correct.

239
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[Judge Levy] What'd you mean by that?

240
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That she will pay the full amount
of the, you know...

241
00:10:15,567 --> 00:10:17,000
Right, 'cause Jews don't pay
the right amount.

242
00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:19,066
- They don't pay the full amount.
- I guess, yeah.

243
00:10:19,133 --> 00:10:20,533
[Judge Levy] And you're the good one
in this case, right?

244
00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,600
- No.
- [Judge Levy] Okay. Good.

245
00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:23,066
I mean, I'm not saying I'm perfect, so...

246
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Well, we're far from perfect.

247
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- We haven't even got in there yet.
- [Katherine chuckles]

248
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Did you make any other derogatory
or racist comments to the defendant

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during this whole incident
in which you claim you were the good guy?

250
00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:35,867
- Uh, I don't remember.
- [Judge Levy] No?

251
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Could we please
play defendant's voicemail?

252
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[Katherine] Neisha McNeishy.

253
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You're a real hoodrat.

254
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You said you would call me after work,

255
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you ain't got no job
'cause you're no longer working at [...].

256
00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:50,300
'Cause I emailed the manager
and she called me back.

257
00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:53,233
So they know about you
that you're a dog thief.

258
00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:56,033
So that [bleep] not cool and not right.

259
00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:57,200
And you're pitiful.

260
00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,200
That's why you can't do business
with Black folks.

261
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Los burros. Yeah, that's what
we call you, burros.

262
00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:04,467
- You can't do business...
- [Judge Levy] Stop. Stop it.

263
00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,433
That's why you can't do business
with Black people.

264
00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,000
That's why we call you burros.

265
00:11:10,066 --> 00:11:11,266
What's a burro?

266
00:11:12,567 --> 00:11:13,834
Black folks.

267
00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:18,734
Dumbass. That's the way it's used
in a derogatory fashion, right?

268
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- Yeah.
- [Judge Levy] Yeah.

269
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You're the good guy
in all this, aren't you?

270
00:11:22,333 --> 00:11:24,700
And there came a time though,
according to your text,

271
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that someone offered you
full price, $3,500.

272
00:11:27,867 --> 00:11:28,900
Yes.

273
00:11:28,967 --> 00:11:31,867
[Judge Levy] And that's when
she was having her cousin

274
00:11:31,934 --> 00:11:36,333
offer to pay you money consistent
with what the original agreement was

275
00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,867
and you said, "I don't want money
from anybody else."

276
00:11:38,934 --> 00:11:40,133
That's correct.
I didn't--I didn't--I didn't...

277
00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,500
Right, because you had someone now
who was willing to give you 3,500.

278
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But the dog ain't yours anymore.

279
00:11:45,433 --> 00:11:48,100
You already sold it without
ever being a meeting of the minds.

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If she wants to, she could simply say,

281
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"Listen,"--as she has,
consistent with the text messages.

282
00:11:53,734 --> 00:11:55,500
She said, "I should pay whatever I could."

283
00:11:55,567 --> 00:11:58,333
And it was only
when she was offered a full price

284
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that she rejected my cousin's offer to pay
what she could so that you can get money.

285
00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:05,100
How do I get that wrong?

286
00:12:05,166 --> 00:12:07,834
How is that inconsistent
with the evidence that we have?

287
00:12:08,467 --> 00:12:10,433
I mean, as of what terms? I mean...

288
00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,767
[Judge Levy] As--what do you mean
as of what terms? As what I just said.

289
00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:15,600
- How did I get that wrong?
- You didn't. I didn't...

290
00:12:15,667 --> 00:12:17,467
[Judge Levy] I didn't.
That's all I wanted to know.

291
00:12:17,533 --> 00:12:19,500
- Judge Acker.
- [Judge Acker] Thank you, Judge.

292
00:12:19,567 --> 00:12:21,834
Did you ever think about
just taking the dog back to her?

293
00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:24,333
[Joneisha] Yeah.
Like I tried to say earlier,

294
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,033
I did try to give the dog back
a couple times.

295
00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:31,166
When we had phone conversations,
it changed and it always end up,

296
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"Oh, just keep her, you know?

297
00:12:32,967 --> 00:12:34,367
I understand what you're going through."

298
00:12:34,767 --> 00:12:37,400
Once it got to the point
where I was continuously

299
00:12:37,467 --> 00:12:40,633
getting harassed with letters
being put in my mailbox,

300
00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:42,133
threatening that she knew where we live...

301
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,500
[Judge Acker]
Didn't we have that in evidence?

302
00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:45,567
- [Joneisha] Yeah.
- [Judge Acker] "Hey, I found you.

303
00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:46,867
I want that puppy back."

304
00:12:46,934 --> 00:12:48,667
- Did you send that note?
- Yes. Correct.

305
00:12:48,734 --> 00:12:50,266
- [Judge Acker] You left it in her box?
- Uh-huh.

306
00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:53,934
[Judge Acker] Ms. Pettway,
you gave the dog away to your cousin

307
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,433
after only about a month.

308
00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,800
Why?

309
00:12:57,467 --> 00:13:00,967
I had a mental break pretty much while--

310
00:13:01,033 --> 00:13:04,266
like I had--when--like I--and I moved in
with them 'cause I ended up

311
00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:07,133
getting kicked out of my home,
so I moved in with them.

312
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,900
So they were helping me with the dog.

313
00:13:08,967 --> 00:13:13,633
Between being threatened,
between being racially slurred,

314
00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:17,300
between being the subject
of venomous hatred,

315
00:13:17,367 --> 00:13:20,700
what was it like being racially vilified?

316
00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:22,600
Like I--like I even told her as well,

317
00:13:22,667 --> 00:13:25,133
like when they kept calling me, I'm like,
"You guys--you guys are doing too much."

318
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,033
Like--and my anxiety and everything,
it was getting worse.

319
00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:30,300
And, you know--now, I tried--

320
00:13:30,367 --> 00:13:32,433
we actually did talk
and I was telling her,

321
00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:35,467
you know, "Hey, I'm going
through this mental problem.

322
00:13:35,533 --> 00:13:37,667
You know, I'm losing everything."
She was like, "Yeah, that's probably karma

323
00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:39,600
'cause you didn't--
'cause you took the dog."

324
00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,934
[announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice.

325
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,066
You committed a crime.

326
00:13:45,133 --> 00:13:49,367
You acted in concert with someone else
to impersonate a police officer.

327
00:13:49,433 --> 00:13:50,500
Congratulations.

328
00:13:50,567 --> 00:13:52,066
[dramatic musical sting]

329
00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:55,767
[theme music plays]

330
00:13:55,834 --> 00:13:57,934
[announcer] Dog breeder
Katherine Meneses

331
00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,400
claims Joneisha Pettway owes her $2,000

332
00:14:01,467 --> 00:14:04,333
or the return of her French bulldog puppy.

333
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,700
Joneisha says she agreed to pay Katherine
whatever and whenever she could.

334
00:14:10,567 --> 00:14:12,533
How many other dogs
were in the litter, ma'am?

335
00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,066
There were six dogs in total.

336
00:14:14,467 --> 00:14:15,467
[Judge Acker] Did you sell the other dogs?

337
00:14:15,533 --> 00:14:16,533
Yes, I did.

338
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,967
[Judge Acker] How much did you sell
each of the other dogs for?

339
00:14:18,033 --> 00:14:20,033
I sold them for about 2,500.

340
00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:21,533
- [Judge Acker] Each one?
- Uh-hmm. Correct.

341
00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,233
[Judge Acker] Let's back up because
you're changing your testimony midstream.

342
00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:26,433
I sold the first one and that was $1,000.

343
00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,600
[Judge Acker] A thousand dollars?

344
00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:28,900
- Not $3,500.
- No.

345
00:14:28,967 --> 00:14:30,300
A thousand dollars.

346
00:14:30,367 --> 00:14:32,767
- Now, what about dog two?
- [Katherine] 2,500.

347
00:14:32,834 --> 00:14:34,567
2,500? Dog three?

348
00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:36,633
- 2,500.
- [Judge Acker] Dog four?

349
00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:38,300
- [Katherine] 2,500.
- [Judge Acker] Dog five?

350
00:14:38,367 --> 00:14:39,367
[Katherine] 2,500.

351
00:14:39,433 --> 00:14:41,233
- [Judge Acker] Any evidence of that?
- Uh, no.

352
00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:42,433
- Just your testimony.
- Yes.

353
00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:44,800
Which has already proven
to be inconsistent.

354
00:14:44,867 --> 00:14:45,867
I have nothing further.

355
00:14:45,934 --> 00:14:48,633
I have a few questions for you
because I get you're upset

356
00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:50,667
if you think you had a deal
that fell through,

357
00:14:50,734 --> 00:14:54,867
but how do you stoop to a level
where you insult everybody?

358
00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:58,633
And your testimony
regarding the price of the dogs--

359
00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:01,567
you know what you told me when I first
asked you what'd you sell them for?

360
00:15:01,633 --> 00:15:02,867
Do you recall what you told me?

361
00:15:02,934 --> 00:15:05,300
- When...
- You told me $3,500.

362
00:15:05,367 --> 00:15:07,567
- No. I say they go for $3,500.
- No. And I asked you,

363
00:15:07,633 --> 00:15:10,133
"Did you sell them?" And you said,
"Yeah." "For what?" And you said,

364
00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,467
- "$3,500 but you told..."
- [Katherine] No.

365
00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:15,166
I misheard. I said 3,500
and up they go for, yeah.

366
00:15:15,233 --> 00:15:16,433
[Judge DiMango] I know what you said.

367
00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:18,433
I gave you a chance to tell your story.

368
00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,133
- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge DiMango] Judge Levy.

369
00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,934
[Judge Levy] Ms. Meneses,
what I find to be more concerning

370
00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,633
is what you did by trying
to get her fired from her job.

371
00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:29,100
Could we play the first voicemail please

372
00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:33,367
when the plaintiff starts off
by calling the defendant a hoodrat?

373
00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:35,767
[Katherine] Neisha McNeishy.

374
00:15:35,834 --> 00:15:37,333
You're a real hoodrat.

375
00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,867
You said you would call me after work.

376
00:15:38,934 --> 00:15:42,333
You ain't got no job 'cause you're
no longer working at [...].

377
00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,900
'Cause I emailed the manager
and she called me back.

378
00:15:44,967 --> 00:15:46,667
So they know about you.

379
00:15:46,734 --> 00:15:47,767
That you're a dog thief.

380
00:15:47,834 --> 00:15:49,266
[Joneisha] I got fired because of it.

381
00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:51,233
- [Judge Levy] And you're the good guy.
- No.

382
00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:54,400
Can we also play
the second voicemail please

383
00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:56,433
from this fake police officer?

384
00:15:57,834 --> 00:16:00,533
[man] Hello, I'm looking for Neisha.

385
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,066
This is the Delray Beach
Police Department.

386
00:16:03,133 --> 00:16:05,500
We're calling about a dog.

387
00:16:05,567 --> 00:16:08,800
Um, we got a report of a stolen dog.

388
00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,300
Um, you need to return the dog

389
00:16:11,367 --> 00:16:12,967
or we're coming to get you.

390
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,433
[Judge Acker laughs]

391
00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:19,100
We're calling about the dog
of Kathy Meneses.

392
00:16:19,166 --> 00:16:21,700
Um, if you can like...

393
00:16:21,767 --> 00:16:26,934
return the dog or we're out to your house
to retrieve the dog.

394
00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:28,333
Thank you.

395
00:16:28,867 --> 00:16:31,266
[Judge Levy] And you were there
when he made that call, right?

396
00:16:31,333 --> 00:16:33,300
- Yes.
- [Judge Levy] You committed a crime.

397
00:16:33,367 --> 00:16:37,433
You acted in concert with someone else
to impersonate a police officer.

398
00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:39,934
Congratulations. I have nothing further.

399
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,967
Ladies, we're gonna retire to deliberate.

400
00:16:42,033 --> 00:16:43,233
We will return shortly.

401
00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:44,467
[Byrd] Court now stands in recess.

402
00:16:44,533 --> 00:16:48,133
This case will be recalled.
Parties are excused.

403
00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,066
[dramatic musical sting]

404
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:54,700
Well, this is a perfect example
of what things appear to be.

405
00:16:54,767 --> 00:16:57,033
They not always are, that's for sure.

406
00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:59,500
Comes off looking like I sell you my dog.

407
00:16:59,567 --> 00:17:00,867
You know it's a reasonable price.

408
00:17:00,934 --> 00:17:04,266
You're gonna pay $2,000,
and then it explodes.

409
00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:06,767
'Cause I left it out.
I intentionally left out...

410
00:17:06,834 --> 00:17:08,867
- I know you did. I know you did.
- ... when she said

411
00:17:08,934 --> 00:17:10,633
about bargaining and calling a Jew.

412
00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:12,165
I intentionally left out the wording

413
00:17:12,233 --> 00:17:14,700
to try to deal
with just the contract itself

414
00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:16,599
without all the anger in it.

415
00:17:16,666 --> 00:17:19,666
But the bottom line here
is there was no contract.

416
00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:21,099
There was no meeting of the mind.

417
00:17:21,165 --> 00:17:24,633
There wasn't really an agreement
by the defendant on any level.

418
00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:26,800
She knew she had to pay more than 150,

419
00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:29,533
but, in truth, it was like
I don't know how much more.

420
00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,300
But then to let it devolve
into what this became,

421
00:17:34,367 --> 00:17:39,100
which was this really criminal behavior
with the phone calls and messages

422
00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:41,066
and the harassment, the racial slurs.

423
00:17:41,133 --> 00:17:44,066
I mean, I see no reason at this point
to return the dog

424
00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:45,800
or to give her any money back.

425
00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:48,233
There was no contract.
She never met her burden.

426
00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,266
Just looking at it from stepping back,

427
00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:52,367
I think the defendant
may really wanna look

428
00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:54,000
into civil or criminal remedies.

429
00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:55,400
[Judge Levy] I agree 100%.

430
00:17:55,467 --> 00:17:58,600
My sense is that the defendant
never wanted to proceed

431
00:17:58,667 --> 00:18:01,834
against the plaintiff for anything

432
00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:04,767
sounding in harassment
or anything like that

433
00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:08,300
because she's an eggshell defendant,
she would be an eggshell plaintiff,

434
00:18:08,367 --> 00:18:10,467
just meaning that she has
enough issues going on.

435
00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:12,367
She didn't need the aggravation.

436
00:18:12,433 --> 00:18:15,400
But it's the reason
why people come on to Tribunal

437
00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:17,667
'cause they know that
we'll eventually get to the truth.

438
00:18:17,734 --> 00:18:20,266
So having said that,
I believe that the defendant

439
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:22,967
and her family got a Frenchie bulldog
for 150 bucks.

440
00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:24,166
[Judge Acker] I do too.

441
00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:27,100
Racists get the benefit
of their contracts too.

442
00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:30,266
But we didn't have a contract here.
So there you have it.

443
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:31,767
- All right.
- That's it. We're unanimous.

444
00:18:31,834 --> 00:18:32,867
Thank you.

445
00:18:32,934 --> 00:18:36,433
[dramatic musical sting]

446
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:37,600
[Byrd] Court is back in session.

447
00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:39,533
I remind parties you're still under oath.

448
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,266
- [Judge DiMango] Thank you, Byrd.
- [Byrd] Uh-hmm.

449
00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:44,867
You know, cases in a courtroom
are very much like life.

450
00:18:44,934 --> 00:18:48,934
Not all things are
as they initially appear to be.

451
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,166
And the advantage
to having three people on the bench

452
00:18:51,233 --> 00:18:53,433
is that each person has an opportunity

453
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:57,200
to address a different aspect
of what goes into a case.

454
00:18:57,834 --> 00:19:01,967
Ms. Meneses, we can take your testimony
and your complaint.

455
00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:04,900
We can take those as evidence
of an apparent deal

456
00:19:04,967 --> 00:19:07,500
for the sale of Pink.

457
00:19:07,567 --> 00:19:11,133
But on the other hand, your testimony,
Ms. Pettway, was very clear.

458
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,533
"I knew I had to pay
but I didn't know what I had to pay."

459
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,166
And that's where
this falls flat on its face.

460
00:19:18,233 --> 00:19:20,100
There was no meeting of the minds.

461
00:19:20,166 --> 00:19:21,500
There was no contract.

462
00:19:21,567 --> 00:19:24,900
But then when you add to it
what my colleagues each spent

463
00:19:24,967 --> 00:19:28,200
a great deal of time pointing out
about who you are--

464
00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:31,667
when you add to it,
you know what that does for all of us?

465
00:19:31,734 --> 00:19:36,834
It makes us happy that the law
is consistent with what the person is.

466
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,266
It makes us happy that you lose,
but you lose on the law.

467
00:19:42,333 --> 00:19:46,500
So, ma'am, the verdict
is to dismiss your case in its entirety

468
00:19:46,567 --> 00:19:49,233
and to leave this cute little dog

469
00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:52,233
with the person who is not like you.

470
00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:54,033
That's the verdict of the court.

471
00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:55,100
[gavel bangs]

472
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,734
This case has concluded.
Parties are excused.

473
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,934
You may step out.

474
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,133
[theme music plays]

475
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,934
I thought they were wrong.
I'm not a racist.

476
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,467
She absolutely took it too far.

477
00:20:06,533 --> 00:20:09,433
Who wouldn't say stuff like that
in trying to collect your money

478
00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,066
and your property, your dog?

479
00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:12,633
It was very stressful.

480
00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:14,400
Don't make payment plans with nobody.

481
00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:16,400
The light'll come out
at the end of the tunnel, right?

482
00:20:16,467 --> 00:20:19,333
But she did take my puppy.

483
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,100
[announcer] Have you been scammed?

484
00:20:21,166 --> 00:20:25,367
Let the majority rule in your favor
on Tribunal Justice.

485
00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:28,367
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486
00:20:28,433 --> 00:20:31,633
["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]