1 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:10,233 He gave you money in order to repair all of these planes 2 00:00:10,300 --> 00:00:11,533 - and sell them. - Uh-hmm. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,433 I gave him the cash and I found out I was in a con. 4 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,800 He took 'em from me and I never got a chance to even, you know, 5 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:17,867 be able to do anything with them. 6 00:00:18,967 --> 00:00:20,133 He was scamming you. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,467 Too good to be true. 8 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:23,266 I know you're saying no. 9 00:00:23,333 --> 00:00:25,600 That's why you're here on that table and he's on that one. 10 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,834 Otherwise, you'd both be outside flying that plane. 11 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:29,700 [laughs] 12 00:00:29,767 --> 00:00:32,633 [announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice. 13 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:36,166 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 14 00:00:54,266 --> 00:00:57,100 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Tavares, Florida. 15 00:00:58,266 --> 00:01:00,567 [Cassandra] Your Honor, this is case 2023, 16 00:01:00,633 --> 00:01:02,233 Rocheleau versus Love. 17 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:04,132 All parties have been sworn in. 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,800 You may be seated. 19 00:01:05,867 --> 00:01:06,900 [Judge Levy] Thank you, Cassandra. 20 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:09,166 Mr. Rocheleau, according to your complaint, 21 00:01:09,233 --> 00:01:12,066 you loaned the defendant $3,500 22 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:15,100 for him to purchase 21 model airplanes 23 00:01:15,166 --> 00:01:16,400 - and parts. - Yes. 24 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:20,265 [Judge Levy] He was supposed to assemble and sell the 21 planes. 25 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:23,600 He was supposed to return to you your $3,500 investment 26 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,066 and then split with you 50-50 the rest of the proceeds. 27 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:31,100 However, this deal went sideways and caused you to file a lawsuit 28 00:01:31,166 --> 00:01:33,734 - against him for $3,500. - That's right. 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,433 [Judge Levy] According to your answer though, Mr. Love, 30 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,200 you say that you don't owe the plaintiff anything 31 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:41,600 because he never gave you an opportunity to sell those planes. 32 00:01:41,667 --> 00:01:43,066 Right. He took 'em, like from--yeah. 33 00:01:43,133 --> 00:01:44,567 [Judge Levy] He took them back before you had a chance? 34 00:01:44,633 --> 00:01:46,500 Yeah. He took 'em from me and I never got a chance to even, 35 00:01:46,567 --> 00:01:47,866 you know, be able to do anything with them. 36 00:01:47,934 --> 00:01:50,033 [Judge Levy] And therefore you don't owe him anything. 37 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:51,333 - Correct. - [Judge Levy] Mr. Rocheleau, 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,066 how did you know the defendant 39 00:01:53,133 --> 00:01:54,900 before you loaned him the money? 40 00:01:54,967 --> 00:01:57,200 Well, I rented him a house. 41 00:01:57,265 --> 00:01:58,800 You've known him for a while? 42 00:01:58,866 --> 00:02:00,333 - No. - [Judge Levy] Oh, it was-- 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,400 - it was just a brand... - [Rocheleau] I just met him. 44 00:02:01,467 --> 00:02:02,667 - It was just a brand-new relationship? - [Rocheleau] Yup. 45 00:02:02,734 --> 00:02:06,133 After about two months, he approached me with this deal on these airplanes. 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,333 What'd he say? 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,532 [Rocheleau] He said, um, 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,866 he knew a guy that had these 20 airplanes 49 00:02:10,934 --> 00:02:13,734 or how many ever it was, 19, 20, 21. 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,100 Well, that's important. According to your complaint, you say 21. 51 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:18,033 - I wanna make sure we're accurate. - Well, what the deal was, 52 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:21,433 there were still some in a-- in packages that hadn't been assembled. 53 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:25,367 He said what he would do is if I could come up with the money, 54 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:28,633 he'd give me the money back right off the top of what he sold. 55 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:30,400 So it was a business opportunity for him? 56 00:02:30,466 --> 00:02:31,700 [Rocheleau] Yeah, business opportunity. 57 00:02:31,767 --> 00:02:33,300 - It was. - And I went and looked at the planes. 58 00:02:33,367 --> 00:02:34,667 It was a good deal. 59 00:02:34,734 --> 00:02:36,000 But it turned out not to be such a good deal. 60 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:37,066 - [Rocheleau] Nope. - Why not? 61 00:02:37,133 --> 00:02:38,867 - Too good to be true. - Too good to be true? 62 00:02:38,934 --> 00:02:42,166 By the way, when he brought this business opportunity to you, 63 00:02:42,233 --> 00:02:45,333 what did he say was going to be the return? 64 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,166 He said they were worth up to 35,000. 65 00:02:48,233 --> 00:02:50,100 - Are you in the model plane business? - [Rocheleau] No. 66 00:02:50,166 --> 00:02:51,600 Did you know anything about them? 67 00:02:51,667 --> 00:02:53,633 The only thing I know is I used to fly. 68 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:55,133 - [Judge Levy] Fly real planes? - Yes. 69 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,033 [Judge Levy] But what about him? Did he indicate to you though, 70 00:02:57,100 --> 00:02:59,100 the defendant, that he had some knowledge-- 71 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:01,367 specific knowledge about assembly 72 00:03:01,433 --> 00:03:03,834 and selling and value and things like that? 73 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:05,433 He had a lot of knowledge. 74 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:06,567 - [Judge Levy] Is that true, sir? - Yes, it is. 75 00:03:06,633 --> 00:03:08,000 - Yes, it is. - He had a couple planes of his own. 76 00:03:08,066 --> 00:03:12,600 I've been dealing with RC hobbies for 30 something years. 77 00:03:12,667 --> 00:03:16,400 - RC hobbies, that's cars, boats... - That's cars, drones, planes. 78 00:03:16,466 --> 00:03:19,800 I've been doing it a long time as a side business as--and as a hobby. 79 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:22,700 So you had an associate, a friend of yours who was selling? 80 00:03:22,767 --> 00:03:23,867 I didn't really know the guy. 81 00:03:23,934 --> 00:03:27,667 I met him and then he, uh--he had quite a bit of stuff for sale 82 00:03:27,734 --> 00:03:29,567 and he made me an offer. A few days went by. 83 00:03:29,633 --> 00:03:31,367 I told him I had something I wanna talk to him about. 84 00:03:31,433 --> 00:03:33,367 I never did ask him. And then one day I walked around Walmart, 85 00:03:33,433 --> 00:03:35,233 he called, so I told him about it. 86 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:38,066 No problem. He came right with the money, $3,500. 87 00:03:38,133 --> 00:03:39,367 I bought the planes. 88 00:03:39,433 --> 00:03:40,633 I mean, that's how it started out. 89 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:41,900 [Judge Levy] Well, first of all, Mr. Rocheleau, 90 00:03:41,966 --> 00:03:43,633 you brought with you a model plane. 91 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:45,166 Can you tell me about that please? 92 00:03:45,233 --> 00:03:47,000 [Rocheleau] Well, this is one with electric motor. 93 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:49,600 [Judge Levy] Was this one of the 21 purchased by 94 00:03:49,667 --> 00:03:51,500 this person that the defendant just mentioned? 95 00:03:51,567 --> 00:03:53,033 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] And do you know 96 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,433 approximately what the value of that plane is? 97 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:57,166 [Rocheleau] No idea. 98 00:03:57,233 --> 00:03:59,900 That plane, when you put it together, is worth about 750. 99 00:03:59,966 --> 00:04:01,033 [Judge Levy] So explain that to me. 100 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:02,767 It's only worth 750 but... 101 00:04:02,834 --> 00:04:05,033 - Well, your labor in building a plane... - [Judge Levy] Uh-hmm. 102 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:08,333 ... you gotta kind of evaluate that because those are handmade. 103 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,934 I mean, they're made out of balsa wood. 104 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,734 You still have to put it together. You have to cover it. 105 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,934 You wrap it. I mean, there's a lot to it. 106 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,632 You might have forty to sixty hours on one plane. 107 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:18,867 [Judge Levy] We also have some photographs, Mr. Rocheleau, 108 00:04:18,934 --> 00:04:20,100 that you provided us with. 109 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:21,466 We have four of them. 110 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:24,266 Can you tell me what this photograph is of and where it was taken? 111 00:04:24,332 --> 00:04:26,567 [Rocheleau] That's a yard sale he had in his--in my... 112 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:27,633 - [Judge Levy] Mr. Love? - [Rocheleau] Yes. 113 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,100 [Judge Levy] Okay. So, Mr. Love, this is your house? 114 00:04:29,166 --> 00:04:31,533 Yes, it is. Well, it's his house. I rent it from him. 115 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,767 And these are the model planes that you have outside that... 116 00:04:33,834 --> 00:04:35,266 - [Love] Correct. - [Judge Levy] ... were or were not 117 00:04:35,332 --> 00:04:36,332 part of the 21? 118 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,133 These are all part of the 21, the planes themselves. 119 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 There's other stuff there, but, yes, those planes. 120 00:04:41,467 --> 00:04:44,600 Okay. Mr. Rocheleau, tell me what this photograph is of. 121 00:04:44,667 --> 00:04:47,467 [Rocheleau] That gives you the size of this one plane. 122 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:48,700 It's taller than me. 123 00:04:48,767 --> 00:04:51,367 [Judge Levy] Do you have any idea what the value of that plane is? 124 00:04:51,433 --> 00:04:52,500 No idea. 125 00:04:52,567 --> 00:04:55,200 - [Judge Levy] Mr. Love. - That plane right there is about $3,500. 126 00:04:55,266 --> 00:04:57,100 - And who has that plane right now? - He does. 127 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:58,166 - I do. - [Judge Levy] Okay. 128 00:04:58,233 --> 00:05:00,800 What about the next one? Tell me what photograph that is. 129 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,333 [Rocheleau] That is a picture of the planes when we went 130 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,533 to get them in the guy's house. 131 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,100 They were covering up his living room. 132 00:05:06,166 --> 00:05:08,734 And then, Mr. Rocheleau, what am I looking at here? 133 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,700 [Rocheleau] That's one of the planes he took to a hobby shop 134 00:05:11,767 --> 00:05:13,367 and put it on consignment sale. 135 00:05:13,433 --> 00:05:15,200 [Love] As a matter of fact, it's still there. 136 00:05:15,266 --> 00:05:17,500 The guy at the hobby shop, Mike, is a good friend of mine. 137 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:19,166 He does mostly battery stuff. 138 00:05:19,233 --> 00:05:21,066 He don't like the gas planes. 139 00:05:21,133 --> 00:05:23,500 So that was one of the battery-operated ones. 140 00:05:23,567 --> 00:05:25,767 Okay. Is that the only plane 141 00:05:25,834 --> 00:05:27,767 that you provided to your friend in the hobby shop? 142 00:05:27,834 --> 00:05:29,266 [Love] No. There was two. 143 00:05:29,332 --> 00:05:31,900 It was the orange one in the last photo. 144 00:05:31,967 --> 00:05:33,467 [Judge Levy] So there were two that you have for consignment? 145 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:34,767 - [Love] Yes. - [Judge Levy] Let's start here though, 146 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:37,233 Mr. Rocheleau. When was it that you two reached 147 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:39,967 this agreement to buy these planes, to give him the money? 148 00:05:40,033 --> 00:05:42,000 - When was that? What was the date? - May 30th. 149 00:05:42,066 --> 00:05:44,600 And when was it that you gave him the money? 150 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,100 I think it was the next day. I went to the bank, got the money. 151 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:49,332 You're right 'cause you gave us a copy of the bank statement. 152 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,467 I got it in cash, yes. 153 00:05:50,533 --> 00:05:51,933 [Judge Levy] And did you give him that in cash? 154 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I gave him the cash. 155 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:54,867 And I do wanna say that right off the bat, 156 00:05:54,933 --> 00:05:59,533 he got a sale for one of the planes from the science guy on TV. 157 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,734 - [Judge Levy] Is that right? - Uh-hmm. 158 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,934 - [Judge Levy] And how much was that? - It was $500. 159 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,934 - I gave it to him. - [Judge Levy] And that was the agreement? 160 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,567 - Yes, it was. - [Judge Levy] Putting that aside 161 00:06:06,633 --> 00:06:08,800 for a moment, what was it about this deal 162 00:06:08,867 --> 00:06:12,967 that went sideways that caused you to file a lawsuit against him for $3,500? 163 00:06:13,033 --> 00:06:15,300 Well, the first thing, he quit paying the rent. 164 00:06:15,367 --> 00:06:16,467 [Judge Levy] Okay. Well, that's not even... 165 00:06:16,533 --> 00:06:17,900 No. That's not--that's not true. That's not true. 166 00:06:17,967 --> 00:06:18,967 [Judge Levy] Hold on one second. 167 00:06:19,033 --> 00:06:21,300 Are you still currently living in the home? 168 00:06:21,367 --> 00:06:22,367 No, sir. 169 00:06:22,433 --> 00:06:25,400 -[Judge Levy] How long were you there? -Uh, almost eight months. 170 00:06:25,467 --> 00:06:27,166 [Rocheleau] He paid the rent three times. That was it. 171 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:29,400 [Judge Levy] When do you say he stopped paying rent? 172 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:32,900 Was it around the time that you started demanding back your money? 173 00:06:32,967 --> 00:06:35,900 Well, that--that's when I did start the demand, 174 00:06:35,967 --> 00:06:37,867 once I checked him out... 175 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:40,367 - [Judge Levy] I get it. - ... and I found out I was in a con. 176 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:44,100 Well, you know, when you say that you found out you were in a con, 177 00:06:44,166 --> 00:06:46,100 you didn't give us a whole lot of evidence to review. 178 00:06:46,166 --> 00:06:47,500 - [Rocheleau] Oh, there is so much that... - Well, I know 179 00:06:47,567 --> 00:06:49,300 but there might be so much but, you know, 180 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,533 you only gave us like two things. 181 00:06:52,133 --> 00:06:55,734 Two. You would agree though that there were no written terms 182 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,767 - or oral terms as far as... - That's right. 183 00:06:57,834 --> 00:07:01,633 ... when he was supposed to refund the $3,500. 184 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:02,867 - That's right. - [Judge Levy] And you see 185 00:07:02,934 --> 00:07:04,967 - how that's a problem? - Oh, yes. 186 00:07:06,467 --> 00:07:08,834 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 187 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:10,300 - You know, the Bermuda Triangle? - No, I don't. 188 00:07:10,367 --> 00:07:12,066 That's where all the planes fly over, they disappear. 189 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:13,500 - Oh. - [Judge DiMango] So that's 190 00:07:13,567 --> 00:07:15,467 what I'm gonna call the Bermuda Triangle defense. 191 00:07:15,533 --> 00:07:16,600 That's what you're raising here. 192 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:18,033 [dramatic musical sting] 193 00:07:20,033 --> 00:07:21,834 [theme music plays] 194 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:25,200 [announcer] Landlord Ronald Rocheleau is suing his former tenant, 195 00:07:25,266 --> 00:07:28,667 Ronald Love, for $3,500. 196 00:07:28,734 --> 00:07:32,400 The two agreed to a side hustle flipping 21 model airplanes 197 00:07:32,467 --> 00:07:35,700 but using Rocheleau's money but only sold two. 198 00:07:35,767 --> 00:07:38,266 Ronald Love claims his former landlord 199 00:07:38,332 --> 00:07:41,066 jumped the gun in taking back the planes. 200 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:45,066 What he's saying is that you directed him to return the planes 201 00:07:45,133 --> 00:07:48,266 and never gave him an opportunity to sell them first. 202 00:07:48,332 --> 00:07:50,667 Oh, he had plenty of opportunity. He had months. 203 00:07:50,734 --> 00:07:52,933 - Is that true? - [Love] Uh, not really. 204 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,933 It's kind of like bad timing 'cause the best time to sell planes 205 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,967 is when the Northerners come back down, the snowbirds. 206 00:07:59,033 --> 00:08:01,266 They're the ones that like the old wood planes. 207 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:03,400 They're the one that-- they're the ones that have time 208 00:08:03,467 --> 00:08:05,233 in the winter to build these planes. 209 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:06,467 And we talked about it. 210 00:08:06,533 --> 00:08:07,734 I said it would take a few months. 211 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,800 He said, "No hurry." 212 00:08:08,867 --> 00:08:09,867 He always said no hurry. 213 00:08:09,934 --> 00:08:12,133 I said, "It's gonna take a little while 'cause I gotta figure out 214 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,233 what all we got." 215 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:14,800 And he said, "Hey, no problem. We're in no rush." 216 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:17,100 Well, it became a rush once there were these issues 217 00:08:17,166 --> 00:08:18,433 regarding whatever the rent was. 218 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,500 [Love] Well, the issue-- there was no issue with the rent 219 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:23,166 until he started--showed up-- 220 00:08:23,233 --> 00:08:24,700 we had this yard sale on Saturday. 221 00:08:24,767 --> 00:08:27,400 He showed up on Monday morning at 7:30. 222 00:08:27,467 --> 00:08:28,800 I'm going through treatments for cancer. 223 00:08:28,867 --> 00:08:30,867 So I was getting ready to walk out the door. 224 00:08:30,934 --> 00:08:32,734 He shows up, demanding planes. 225 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,633 I said, "You were here Saturday. Why are you hee-haw..." 226 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:37,700 [Judge Levy] Tell me--tell me the date--approximate date of this, 227 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:41,000 'cause we have May 31st is when the money was given to you. 228 00:08:41,066 --> 00:08:43,866 When is it now that he's coming over to your house, making this demand? 229 00:08:43,933 --> 00:08:45,400 This would have been on October. 230 00:08:45,467 --> 00:08:49,967 October? So we have June, July, August, September, October. 231 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:51,500 - So we have five months? - Yes. 232 00:08:51,567 --> 00:08:54,100 [Judge Levy] How many planes had you been able to sell 233 00:08:54,165 --> 00:08:55,834 within that five-month period? 234 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:57,165 I've sold two. 235 00:08:57,233 --> 00:08:59,000 How many of the planes do you still have? 236 00:08:59,066 --> 00:09:00,800 I have none of the planes. He has all the planes. 237 00:09:00,867 --> 00:09:03,233 - [Judge Levy] Is that true? - I only have ten of them. 238 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:04,433 Where'd the rest of them go? 239 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,700 He's got every one he showed in those pictures and there's more than ten 240 00:09:06,767 --> 00:09:09,233 in that picture, 'cause I gave him everything I had. 241 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:12,000 How much money have you received, Mr. Rocheleau, 242 00:09:12,066 --> 00:09:15,300 in total for the repayment of that $3,500 loan? 243 00:09:15,367 --> 00:09:17,333 Actually, I got $300. 244 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,467 And then he sold a motor while I was there at the yard sale for 50 bucks. 245 00:09:21,533 --> 00:09:23,133 - Is that correct? - [Love] No. 246 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,300 Five hundred from the science guy. 247 00:09:24,367 --> 00:09:27,133 But the 300 he's talking about is the one--the orange one 248 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,900 - that was sold from the hobby shop. - [Judge Levy] Okay. 249 00:09:28,967 --> 00:09:33,333 So you gave him a total of 500 from the science guy, 300 for the orange. 250 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,700 And--well, yeah. And then the $50 for--so it'll be 750. 251 00:09:36,767 --> 00:09:38,500 - [Judge Levy] That's 850. - 850, I mean. 252 00:09:38,567 --> 00:09:41,100 You're claiming that you never received anything more than 350. 253 00:09:41,165 --> 00:09:43,000 That's right, in cash. 254 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:44,834 - Do you have any receipts? - [Love] No. 255 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,600 I asked him if he wanted a receipt. He told me, "No, there was no need in it." 256 00:09:47,667 --> 00:09:50,033 I get it. I think my colleague's gonna have some more questions about this. 257 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:51,100 - [Rocheleau] Your Honor... - Judge Acker-- 258 00:09:51,165 --> 00:09:52,567 Judge Acker is gonna have some questions for you. 259 00:09:52,633 --> 00:09:53,834 [Judge Acker] Thank you, Judge Levy. 260 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:57,600 So I wanna try to see if I can resolve a few of the underlying 261 00:09:57,667 --> 00:10:00,066 factual questions I have, because you, sir, say 262 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:02,367 that he only returned ten of the planes, 263 00:10:02,433 --> 00:10:03,600 - I believe you said. - Yes. 264 00:10:03,667 --> 00:10:05,667 No controllers, no parts. 265 00:10:05,734 --> 00:10:08,400 - There was bins of parts. - [Love] Excuse me. 266 00:10:08,467 --> 00:10:11,800 He's got the planes that's left and all the parts and pieces that-- 267 00:10:11,867 --> 00:10:14,166 he don't even know he's got-- one plane's worth $4,000. 268 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:16,300 So I'm not quite understanding why he's wanting 269 00:10:16,367 --> 00:10:17,834 all the parts and planes and... 270 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:19,066 I understand why 271 00:10:19,133 --> 00:10:21,133 - because he gave you money... - [Love] So--yeah. 272 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,667 ... in order to repair all of these planes and sell them. 273 00:10:24,734 --> 00:10:25,967 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Acker] You didn't repair 274 00:10:26,033 --> 00:10:27,367 and sell the planes 275 00:10:27,433 --> 00:10:29,467 in what he would consider a timely fashion. 276 00:10:29,533 --> 00:10:31,734 So he just wanted everything back. 277 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,300 And it sounds like he did not perhaps get everything back. 278 00:10:36,367 --> 00:10:39,467 So tell me what you did between May 30th 279 00:10:39,533 --> 00:10:40,867 when you purchased the planes 280 00:10:40,934 --> 00:10:44,700 and September when the plaintiff wants them back. 281 00:10:44,767 --> 00:10:46,400 How much work did you do? 282 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:47,667 Tell me what else you did. 283 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:50,100 I tried to organize the stuff that we had-- 284 00:10:50,165 --> 00:10:52,100 I mean, the stuff that I got. 285 00:10:52,165 --> 00:10:54,567 Plus dealing with my sickness. I was having to deal with that as well. 286 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:57,900 So I don't have every day is a good day where I can go out and work on this stuff. 287 00:10:57,967 --> 00:11:01,066 And I was in no hurry because our agreement was 288 00:11:01,133 --> 00:11:03,900 we would wait till the people come down. It's where the money's at, 289 00:11:03,967 --> 00:11:07,266 because they won't nickel-and-dime you in Florida for everything. 290 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,033 I mean, it's just nickel-and-dime, nickel-and-dime. 291 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:11,333 And in order to get the money that they're worth, 292 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,967 you have to wait. You gotta be patient. 293 00:11:13,033 --> 00:11:16,033 If I put something up online for $3,500, 294 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:17,934 first thing people will do is, "Take a thousand for it?" 295 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,433 [Judge Acker] Did you post anything online? 296 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:20,600 - Yes, I--yes, I did. - [Judge Acker] Did you post-- 297 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:22,100 there's no evidence from you. 298 00:11:22,166 --> 00:11:23,400 [Love] No, I did. 299 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:24,700 There was never no issues. 300 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:27,266 I mean, he left on a Saturday, came back on a Monday with an attitude 301 00:11:27,333 --> 00:11:28,333 and I don't know why. 302 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,467 [Judge Acker] So, Mr. Rocheleau, as Judge Levy pointed out, 303 00:11:31,533 --> 00:11:34,834 it's not clear whether or not he actually breached the agreement. 304 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,066 I mean, you are the plaintiff here and you have the burden of proof. 305 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:42,967 And not only do I not understand really what the deal was, 306 00:11:43,033 --> 00:11:47,567 I also don't have clarity about precisely what you have. 307 00:11:47,633 --> 00:11:50,533 So how are you going to prove those elements of your case? 308 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,233 - Where's the planes? - [Judge Acker] That's for you to tell me. 309 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:56,100 Now, we know that two are at the hobby shop, correct? 310 00:11:56,165 --> 00:11:57,165 Yup, those are the two. 311 00:11:57,233 --> 00:11:59,433 [Judge Acker] Did you direct the hobby shop owner 312 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,667 - to give him those planes back? - No, no. 313 00:12:00,734 --> 00:12:01,767 Why not? 314 00:12:01,834 --> 00:12:04,033 [Love] There was--one was already sold, $300. 315 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:07,500 The one--it was--the other one, it was sold and the other one's got a hole on it. 316 00:12:07,567 --> 00:12:09,800 I'm trying to understand if this is a result 317 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:12,467 of some confusion, some misunderstanding. 318 00:12:12,533 --> 00:12:13,767 Have the planes been disassembled? 319 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:17,133 So maybe you're not sure what you have because that's also a part of his defense. 320 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,333 Oh, no, I'm sure what I've got. 321 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,500 I mean, they are disassembled but that's how you move them. 322 00:12:21,567 --> 00:12:23,667 You take the wings off and you pack them up. 323 00:12:23,734 --> 00:12:24,867 [Judge Acker] I don't have anything further. 324 00:12:24,934 --> 00:12:26,400 - Judge. - [Judge DiMango] Thank you. 325 00:12:26,467 --> 00:12:27,600 Do you know what the Bermuda Triangle is? 326 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:28,700 - [Love] No, I don't. - That's where all the planes fly over, 327 00:12:28,767 --> 00:12:29,767 they disappear. 328 00:12:29,834 --> 00:12:32,300 So that's what I'm gonna call the Bermuda Triangle defense. 329 00:12:32,367 --> 00:12:33,667 That's what you're raising here. 330 00:12:33,734 --> 00:12:37,400 'Cause what he's really accusing you of is selling planes 331 00:12:37,467 --> 00:12:38,934 and not giving him money for it. 332 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,233 You got 21 planes. 333 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:41,533 He is not disputing that. 334 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,066 You're not disputing that. 335 00:12:43,133 --> 00:12:44,834 He's got 10 planes. 336 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:47,600 Plus, we have at the shop, two. 337 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,900 So there would have been a total of 12 planes. 338 00:12:49,967 --> 00:12:53,000 So somewhere, nine planes 339 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:55,700 fell into the black hole of the Bermuda Triangle. 340 00:12:55,767 --> 00:12:57,734 - That brings me to you. - Okay. 341 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,233 What were you supposed to be doing to facilitate 342 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:05,734 the sale of these planes so that he could get some profit as well? 343 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,700 [Love] What was I doing? I was putting the planes together 344 00:13:07,767 --> 00:13:10,467 and trying to figure out the inventory that we do have 345 00:13:10,533 --> 00:13:13,000 and how much stuff can we--I mean, we had a lot of stuff. 346 00:13:13,066 --> 00:13:15,400 There would have been at least 15 planes, 16 planes. 347 00:13:15,467 --> 00:13:17,367 - Not counting there was a couple kits... - How do you say 16 planes? 348 00:13:17,433 --> 00:13:19,300 You only sold two. There should have been 19. 349 00:13:19,367 --> 00:13:20,400 So even by your story-- you couldn't have... 350 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:24,200 Because the kits--the kits, there's parts and pieces that was loaded up. 351 00:13:24,266 --> 00:13:27,934 The parts and pieces when put together constitute a plane, correct? 352 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 - Yeah. - [Judge DiMango] Yes. 353 00:13:29,066 --> 00:13:30,066 - Yes and no. Yes. - [Judge DiMango] And that's what he's 354 00:13:30,133 --> 00:13:31,133 - referring to... - Okay. 355 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,266 ... as a plane. This is my point. 356 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:34,767 This is like a good news case and a bad news case. 357 00:13:34,834 --> 00:13:37,333 You meet a guy who's really a stranger and you say to him, 358 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,533 "Hey, listen, I got a deal for you. 359 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,100 But I have some good news and some bad news about it." 360 00:13:42,165 --> 00:13:43,165 "What's the good news?" 361 00:13:43,233 --> 00:13:47,533 "The good news is I could get 21 planes and sell them for $35,000." 362 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,800 "What's the bad news?" "Nobody wants them." 363 00:13:49,867 --> 00:13:51,467 - Really? That's really what... - Well, the parts 364 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:52,633 are worth a lot of money. 365 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:53,867 Yeah, but nothing's selling. 366 00:13:53,934 --> 00:13:54,934 - That's my good point... - [Rocheleau] That's right. 367 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,700 ... and bad point. We got a lot of good stuff 368 00:13:56,767 --> 00:13:58,266 going here but nobody wants them. 369 00:13:58,333 --> 00:13:59,533 No, that's not the bad news. 370 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,967 Everybody wants them. It's just they don't wanna pay for them. 371 00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:02,033 [Judge DiMango] Nobody wants them. 372 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:04,400 His point is there is no real market for them. 373 00:14:04,467 --> 00:14:06,767 If there was, you were selling them and so you're full of it. 374 00:14:06,834 --> 00:14:08,200 - [Love] Well, like he--like he... - Basically, you used the word 375 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:09,266 he was scamming you. 376 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:10,333 - Yes. - No. 377 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,467 I know you're saying no. 378 00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:13,800 That's why you're here on that table and he's on that one. 379 00:14:13,867 --> 00:14:15,900 Otherwise, you'd both be outside flying that plane. 380 00:14:15,967 --> 00:14:17,500 [Love] Well, Your Honor, all his stuff is valued... 381 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:19,767 What have you done between the time and now? 382 00:14:19,834 --> 00:14:21,066 [Love] Exactly what I said I would do. 383 00:14:21,133 --> 00:14:22,200 Nothing. 384 00:14:23,767 --> 00:14:26,333 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 385 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,700 He's expecting reasonable efforts by you. 386 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:31,200 I'm not saying that you should go with the planes back and forth, 387 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:33,633 planes for sale, you know, like they do on the beaches. 388 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,367 - I did do that. I'm sorry that I... - You did? 389 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:37,900 You had planes going across the beach with those trailers 390 00:14:37,967 --> 00:14:39,834 in the back that say planes for sale? 391 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:41,133 [dramatic musical sting] 392 00:14:42,867 --> 00:14:44,767 [theme music plays] 393 00:14:44,834 --> 00:14:47,367 [announcer] A business deal between Ronald Rocheleau 394 00:14:47,433 --> 00:14:49,934 and Ronald Love to fix up and sell 395 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,533 21 model airplanes never got off the ground. 396 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,100 Now, Ronald Rocheleau claims some of the planes are missing 397 00:14:57,165 --> 00:14:59,100 so he's suing his former partner 398 00:14:59,165 --> 00:15:02,467 for the $3,500 he invested. 399 00:15:02,533 --> 00:15:05,333 When you were selling them at your house at that yard sale, 400 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,767 did you put any flyers up and around that you had these planes? 401 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,400 - Did he? - No. I put the word out. 402 00:15:09,467 --> 00:15:10,467 - I didn't see any. - [Judge DiMango] What's the word? 403 00:15:10,533 --> 00:15:12,233 - I put the word... - "I got planes." 404 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:13,300 - What's the word? - [Love] Well, that's not how we... 405 00:15:13,367 --> 00:15:14,367 What did you do? 406 00:15:14,433 --> 00:15:16,100 [Love] I--through my hobby shop. 407 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:17,300 I told everybody I was gonna have them. 408 00:15:17,367 --> 00:15:18,367 - A few people I knew. - [Judge DiMango] What--you stood 409 00:15:18,433 --> 00:15:19,834 - in the hobby shop and said, "I got... - No. 410 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:21,633 ... planes." So how did you do it in the hobby shop? 411 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:23,967 No. I got friends that recommend-- you know--well... 412 00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:26,500 [Judge DiMango] Is this really how you think you would sell something? 413 00:15:26,567 --> 00:15:28,700 I mean, 'cause when he's getting in a deal with you, 414 00:15:28,767 --> 00:15:31,367 he's expecting reasonable efforts by you. 415 00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:33,834 I'm not saying that you should go with the planes back and forth, 416 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,367 planes for sale, you know, like they do on the beaches. 417 00:15:35,433 --> 00:15:36,433 [Love] Well, it's just not what you're saying 418 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,667 - but that's kind of... - [Judge DiMango] Yeah. But you didn't do 419 00:15:37,734 --> 00:15:39,700 - any of that. - I did do that. 420 00:15:39,767 --> 00:15:40,767 - I'm sorry that I... - You did? 421 00:15:40,834 --> 00:15:43,100 You had planes going across the beach with those trailers 422 00:15:43,165 --> 00:15:44,834 - in the back that say planes for sale? - [Love] Okay. 423 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:46,300 It's like putting them in a hobby shop, Your Honor. 424 00:15:46,367 --> 00:15:48,767 - [Judge DiMango] No. You see you... - They're hanging in a hobby shop. 425 00:15:48,834 --> 00:15:50,300 - You put one plane in a hobby shop. - [Love] There's two. 426 00:15:50,367 --> 00:15:51,567 That's exactly what--oh, two. 427 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:52,667 I'm sorry. Thanks for the correction. 428 00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:54,400 - Yeah. - That's all we really had at the time. 429 00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:57,767 But the point is you have a limited vision for sale. 430 00:15:57,834 --> 00:15:58,834 Back to you. 431 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:01,200 You got back how much, $300? 432 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:02,533 - 300 for that one. - [Judge DiMango] And you paid him 433 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,333 - 3,500? - Yeah. 434 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,633 [Judge DiMango] So what are you suing for 3,500 for? 435 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:08,533 - 3,200... - [Rocheleau] That's what I paid for 'em. 436 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,800 ... you should be looking for. 437 00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:11,400 This is the bottom line here. 438 00:16:11,467 --> 00:16:14,333 What are you gonna do with the planes you have because you've readily 439 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,467 and candidly admitted each time, I think it was Judge Levy 440 00:16:17,533 --> 00:16:18,767 who said to you, "Do you know what it's worth?" 441 00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:19,834 "I don't know what it's worth." 442 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:20,900 "Do you know what to do?" "I don't know what--" 443 00:16:20,967 --> 00:16:22,967 What you're gonna do with the line of planes you have? 444 00:16:23,033 --> 00:16:24,667 I'm gonna sell them off if I can. 445 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:28,066 Well, why wouldn't you sell them beforehand anyway? 446 00:16:28,133 --> 00:16:29,266 Just because you sell... 447 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:31,500 I didn't think that was right until this was settled. 448 00:16:31,567 --> 00:16:33,500 You might give them all back to him. I don't know. 449 00:16:33,567 --> 00:16:34,567 - You might... - [Love] Your Honor... 450 00:16:34,633 --> 00:16:36,533 You might keep 'em. [laughs] 451 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,900 - [Judge DiMango] We might keep 'em. - Yeah. 452 00:16:37,967 --> 00:16:39,000 [Judge DiMango] Anybody have anything? 453 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:40,333 [Judge Levy] I do. Mr. Rocheleau, 454 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,867 Judge DiMango was correct in saying what have you done 455 00:16:42,934 --> 00:16:45,433 to mitigate your damages, to sell what you have. 456 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:49,400 Because what you should be able to do is recoup at least your $3,500 457 00:16:49,467 --> 00:16:53,066 and get out from what was not a very well-thought-out agreement, right, deal? 458 00:16:53,133 --> 00:16:54,300 - No, it wasn't. - [Judge Levy] Right. 459 00:16:54,367 --> 00:16:57,533 So you have in your possession, by your own admission, 460 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,200 parts that are worth "a lot of money." 461 00:17:00,266 --> 00:17:01,567 I have nothing further. 462 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,967 We're gonna retire to deliberate. Thank you both. 463 00:17:04,032 --> 00:17:05,300 [Cassandra] Court is now in recess. 464 00:17:05,367 --> 00:17:06,800 Parties are excused. 465 00:17:06,867 --> 00:17:09,200 [dramatic musical sting] 466 00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:12,567 All right. It's a breach of contract case 467 00:17:12,633 --> 00:17:14,800 and the contract was anything but clear. 468 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,233 It most certainly wasn't written, but as we know, 469 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:18,700 there can be oral contracts, 470 00:17:18,767 --> 00:17:20,867 as long as the terms of the contract are clear. 471 00:17:20,934 --> 00:17:24,066 There was no start date, end date, as far as when these planes 472 00:17:24,133 --> 00:17:25,367 were gonna be returned. 473 00:17:25,433 --> 00:17:28,032 So we have a problem right off the bat with whether or not 474 00:17:28,099 --> 00:17:30,700 you can have a legitimate breach of contract case without 475 00:17:30,767 --> 00:17:32,467 there being a meeting of the minds. 476 00:17:32,533 --> 00:17:35,567 The plaintiff admitted that he has the planes and parts 477 00:17:35,633 --> 00:17:36,834 that are worth a lot of money, 478 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:39,567 but at the same time, he also did absolutely nothing 479 00:17:39,633 --> 00:17:41,767 to mitigate his damages, 480 00:17:41,834 --> 00:17:43,233 which is what he needs to do. 481 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,500 I am convinced based upon their testimony that Mr. Rocheleau 482 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:50,834 is in possession of planes and parts that exceed $3,500. 483 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:52,867 I think they both testified to that. 484 00:17:52,934 --> 00:17:56,967 Therefore, I believe that that should be the extent of his success in this case, 485 00:17:57,033 --> 00:18:00,433 which is keeping the planes, and his request for $3,500 486 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,200 repayment, I would say fails. 487 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:04,734 I think that's spot on. 488 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,934 I didn't necessarily find the defendant--I didn't find 489 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,800 that he lacked credibility necessarily, but I just felt like the plaintiff 490 00:18:12,867 --> 00:18:17,934 was too unsure of too many key facts for me to find that he met his burden. 491 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,734 I agree with both of you. I think the plaintiff 492 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,033 was credible to the extent that he had any information at all 493 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:24,500 about what was going on. 494 00:18:24,567 --> 00:18:27,300 But the bottom line is he didn't establish that there was a meeting 495 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:30,467 of the minds for any contractual agreement that we could enforce. 496 00:18:30,533 --> 00:18:32,300 And I think that he should keep the planes, 497 00:18:32,367 --> 00:18:36,166 which should reimburse him, as we all agree, at least the $3,500. 498 00:18:36,233 --> 00:18:39,233 And I think we should request that the defendant 499 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:41,500 permit the plaintiff to get the planes... 500 00:18:41,567 --> 00:18:42,567 - In the hobby shop. - [Judge DiMango] ... still in the hobby 501 00:18:42,633 --> 00:18:45,333 shop or to dispose of them as the plaintiffs deems fit. 502 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,400 - They belong to the plaintiff. - [Judge Levy] Okay. 503 00:18:46,467 --> 00:18:47,467 I agree with that. 504 00:18:47,533 --> 00:18:48,633 That seems fair. 505 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:49,700 - [Judge DiMango] Okay. - Great. 506 00:18:49,767 --> 00:18:50,800 [Judge Levy] Unanimous. 507 00:18:50,867 --> 00:18:54,433 [dramatic musical sting] 508 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:55,967 [Cassandra] Court is back in session. 509 00:18:56,033 --> 00:18:59,100 All parties are reminded that you're still under oath. 510 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:00,900 We've reached a unanimous verdict. 511 00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:03,533 Mr. Rocheleau, we wish we had better news. 512 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:05,300 We do. 513 00:19:05,367 --> 00:19:08,400 The contract that you had doesn't have to be in writing. 514 00:19:08,467 --> 00:19:10,000 It could be an oral contract. 515 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:11,066 Many of them are. 516 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:14,867 But the terms of that oral contract need to be just as clear 517 00:19:14,934 --> 00:19:16,233 as the terms of a written one. 518 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:18,233 There has to be a meeting of the minds 519 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:22,533 in order for there to be a legitimate contract for one to then allege a breach. 520 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,600 The terms of the agreement understanding that you had with Mr. Love 521 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:31,333 were anything but clear and concise with respect to repayment timeframes, 522 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,934 because the defense, as you know, is what it is. 523 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,200 You did not give him enough time to sell those planes. 524 00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:41,000 You said the deal was too good to be true 525 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:44,934 and we all know if a deal is too good to be true, it probably is. 526 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,633 And your lawsuit against the defendant is going to be dismissed. 527 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:52,400 But we are going to order-- 528 00:19:52,467 --> 00:19:54,100 we're gonna issue an order today, Mr. Love, 529 00:19:54,166 --> 00:19:55,600 and I'm sure you have no problem with it, 530 00:19:55,667 --> 00:19:59,467 to direct the hobby shop to provide the plane... 531 00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:00,567 - Right. - [Judge Levy] There is one left? 532 00:20:00,633 --> 00:20:02,066 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] To the plaintiff. 533 00:20:02,133 --> 00:20:06,367 Now, we recognize that you are friends with the hobby shop owner 534 00:20:06,433 --> 00:20:10,200 and, you know--and there are shenanigans that could go on 535 00:20:10,266 --> 00:20:12,033 but we don't expect there to be any 536 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:14,066 because you've done nothing but come in today 537 00:20:14,133 --> 00:20:15,900 and to tell us your truths. 538 00:20:15,967 --> 00:20:19,700 And you can take that order, in case there's any problem whatsoever, 539 00:20:19,767 --> 00:20:22,567 and you can take that to your local law enforcement and you can say that, 540 00:20:22,633 --> 00:20:25,533 "I need assistance in effectuating this judgment." 541 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,100 - You have no problem with that, correct? - No. He can have it. 542 00:20:28,166 --> 00:20:30,333 [Judge Levy] If you wanna leave it with the shop owner, you can. 543 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,433 And then sell 'em, mitigate your damages, and collect... 544 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:34,600 - [Rocheleau] Right. - ... what we expect to be more than 545 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:36,066 $3,500. 546 00:20:36,133 --> 00:20:37,567 And, gentlemen, thank you both for coming in. 547 00:20:37,633 --> 00:20:39,233 - We appreciate it. - [Rocheleau] It's been fun. 548 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:40,734 - Thank you. - [Rocheleau] It won't stop me from 549 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,400 - helping somebody else if they need it. - [Judge Levy] I know it won't, sir. 550 00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:44,066 This case has concluded. 551 00:20:44,133 --> 00:20:45,734 All parties are excused. 552 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,333 [theme music plays] 553 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,867 If I made 500 bucks, I was gonna be happy. 554 00:20:50,934 --> 00:20:52,734 We had a barbecue Saturday. He ate my barbecue. 555 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,200 "Oh, that's good. Da-da-da-da." 556 00:20:54,266 --> 00:20:55,700 Comes back on Monday morning at 7:30. 557 00:20:55,767 --> 00:20:57,100 "I want all my planes. I don't like you." 558 00:20:57,166 --> 00:20:58,266 He quit paying the rent. 559 00:20:58,333 --> 00:21:00,500 The guy's, you know, a pretty nasty guy. 560 00:21:00,567 --> 00:21:02,467 - I'm fine with it. - But now I'm outta making money, 561 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:03,967 so--you know, hey, it's okay. 562 00:21:04,467 --> 00:21:05,834 [announcer] Are you being sued? 563 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:09,066 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 564 00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:13,333 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice. 565 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,600 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]