1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,867 [announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice. 2 00:00:08,934 --> 00:00:11,800 You had a driver's license when this, uh, when this accident occurred? 3 00:00:11,867 --> 00:00:13,066 At the time, yeah. 4 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:15,266 - You sure about that? - We're not talking about today. 5 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:17,800 You come on Tribunal, we'll get to the truth. 6 00:00:17,867 --> 00:00:20,400 - Period. - I don't care about this no more. 7 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:23,467 You wanna leave? You leave. I'll finish this case without you. 8 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:26,767 Instead of getting all huffy, 9 00:00:26,834 --> 00:00:28,533 she should've stayed here to defend her case, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,900 'cause your case is not airtight. 11 00:00:31,633 --> 00:00:35,000 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 12 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:56,133 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Compton, California. 13 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:59,700 Your Honor, this is case number 11/27 on the calendar. 14 00:00:59,767 --> 00:01:01,633 In the matter of Wright versus Horn. 15 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:04,033 And parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 16 00:01:04,099 --> 00:01:05,266 - Thank you, Byrd. - [Byrd] Uh-hmm. 17 00:01:05,767 --> 00:01:07,867 [Judge DiMango] Ms. Wright and Ms. Horn, 18 00:01:07,934 --> 00:01:11,934 you have been longtime friends, since high school actually. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,567 And when you were having some trouble getting over your divorce, 20 00:01:15,633 --> 00:01:19,533 Ms. Wright, you encouraged her to go online and look to date. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,633 - Right. - [Judge DiMango] And she did. 22 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,500 And she met a guy. And you say he was just bad news. 23 00:01:23,567 --> 00:01:24,633 - Right. - [Judge DiMango] I don't like him. 24 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:26,133 I don't like the neighborhood he lives in. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,800 But she wanted a car. 26 00:01:27,867 --> 00:01:29,000 You had an extra car. 27 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:31,500 Then you said you would lend her, but you gave her a condition. 28 00:01:31,567 --> 00:01:33,633 And you said, "I don't want you going near his neighborhood." 29 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:38,533 Well, it's like falling on deaf ears, she then decides she's gonna go visit, 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,265 and apparently, she's confronted by another girlfriend, 31 00:01:41,333 --> 00:01:42,600 and there's an argument. 32 00:01:42,667 --> 00:01:46,400 You say she intentionally hits you on the driver side of the car 33 00:01:46,467 --> 00:01:48,233 with the passenger side of her vehicle. 34 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:51,400 The damage to your car, you say, is 2,500. 35 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:54,100 You told her not to go, she went. 36 00:01:54,166 --> 00:01:57,500 That's the end of the story for you. She owes you $2,500. 37 00:01:57,567 --> 00:01:59,300 You said that while you were using the car, 38 00:01:59,366 --> 00:02:02,767 you did go to see your boyfriend and some lady pulled up, 39 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:04,500 and then you got into an argument. 40 00:02:04,567 --> 00:02:06,967 You both got in cars. There was a collision. 41 00:02:07,033 --> 00:02:09,699 You say she drove into your side of the car, 42 00:02:09,767 --> 00:02:11,400 ramming into your vehicle. 43 00:02:11,467 --> 00:02:13,467 At the same time, you were on the phone together,. 44 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:15,500 According to you, Ms. Wright said to you, 45 00:02:15,567 --> 00:02:17,133 "Go to the police station." 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,934 So you left the scene to go to the police precinct. 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,966 When you got there, they already knew what happened 48 00:02:22,033 --> 00:02:25,100 because the other woman, she had already made a report. 49 00:02:25,166 --> 00:02:27,966 You say that you don't know why she's not suing the other woman. 50 00:02:28,033 --> 00:02:29,400 You didn't cause the accident. 51 00:02:29,466 --> 00:02:32,000 And you think this is really that she's just disappointed in you. 52 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:33,066 You owe her nothing. 53 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,934 That's the story of how your 20-year friendship is gonna end, ladies? 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,633 Well, I just think she owes me the money, 55 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:42,000 and anything after that, we can talk about. 56 00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:44,600 - But she needs to pay me first. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 57 00:02:44,667 --> 00:02:46,233 First, let's take a look at the damages on your car. 58 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:47,300 [Danielle] Okay. 59 00:02:47,367 --> 00:02:49,100 Let's see if we can bring that picture up. 60 00:02:49,166 --> 00:02:53,266 So what I see are some black marks on top, right? 61 00:02:53,333 --> 00:02:54,800 - [Danielle] Then there's a big dent… - [Judge DiMango] Am I right? 62 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:57,133 [Danielle] … at the bottom, going all the way inside. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,100 [Judge DiMango] And this is the damage that you say was sustained 64 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:01,967 on November 18th, would that be correct? 65 00:03:02,033 --> 00:03:03,400 - Yes. You can tell… - [Judge DiMango] No? 66 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:06,233 - [Danielle] … it's pushed in. - Why don't you tell us what happened? 67 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:08,433 It was on 18th November. 68 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,066 I drove to San Bernardino. 69 00:03:10,133 --> 00:03:11,900 - We… - Do you have a driver's license? 70 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:15,166 What are you thinking about? You either have a license or you don't. 71 00:03:15,233 --> 00:03:17,400 I don't now. It's suspended right now. 72 00:03:17,466 --> 00:03:19,700 But at the time, I had my driver's license. 73 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:22,367 Okay. So I drove to San Bernardino 74 00:03:22,433 --> 00:03:25,100 and I picked up my boyfriend at the time 75 00:03:25,166 --> 00:03:26,667 to go to a work agency. 76 00:03:26,734 --> 00:03:31,466 And we pulled up to the agency, we got out, and we walked inside. 77 00:03:31,533 --> 00:03:32,900 He said, "I'll be right back." 78 00:03:32,966 --> 00:03:36,533 Um, he turned around and walked back out the door, like, towards the street. 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,166 And I saw, um… 80 00:03:38,233 --> 00:03:39,934 - [Judge DiMango] Madame… - We're gonna call the lady a cougar lady. 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,567 Her name--she-- we can call her cougar lady. 82 00:03:41,633 --> 00:03:42,633 - You're gonna call her cougar lady? - [Shawnte] Yeah. 83 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:44,934 - Okay. We can do that. - [Shawnte] And so she got out the car. 84 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,033 'Cause it's like glass, so I saw her through the glass. 85 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:49,300 She was getting out of her car. She walked in. 86 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:50,800 She said, "Can I speak to you?" 87 00:03:50,867 --> 00:03:52,700 Um, I said, "Let's go outside in the parking lot." 88 00:03:52,767 --> 00:03:54,600 [Judge DiMango] Did you know who she was at that time? 89 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,166 I had seen her before. 90 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,533 - But I thought it was… - So you knew he had a girl… 91 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,266 No. I thought this was his auntie. She… 92 00:03:59,333 --> 00:04:00,467 [Judge DiMango] You thought she was his aunt? 93 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:01,700 - Yes. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 94 00:04:01,767 --> 00:04:04,166 She was really older than me and him. 95 00:04:04,233 --> 00:04:05,433 - [Judge DiMango] Okay. How old are you? - So I believe, um… 96 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:06,867 - [Judge DiMango] Just so I know. - I'm 37. 97 00:04:06,934 --> 00:04:08,467 - And how old is he? - [Shawnte] Forty. 98 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:10,333 - Okay. - [Shawnte] And she's 59. 99 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,867 So, um, she said, um, "Can we speak?" 100 00:04:12,934 --> 00:04:14,600 And we stepped outside. 101 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:17,466 She just asked me, "What's going on between you and the guy?" 102 00:04:17,533 --> 00:04:20,466 - Uh-hmm. - I said, "We've been seeing each other." 103 00:04:20,533 --> 00:04:24,133 She goes like, "You know, that's my boyfriend." Um… 104 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Okay. Look, you knew he had two relationships going. 105 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:29,033 You knew it. That's why you gave her a name like cougar lady. 106 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:30,900 But that's not the issue here. The issue is… 107 00:04:30,967 --> 00:04:32,667 No, I didn't know that that day, but okay. 108 00:04:32,734 --> 00:04:34,800 [Judge DiMango] Okay. Whatever you wanna tell yourself. 109 00:04:34,867 --> 00:04:36,900 The bottom line here is we have damage on the car 110 00:04:36,967 --> 00:04:39,100 that you wanna blame on this woman. 111 00:04:39,166 --> 00:04:40,900 But she doesn't have to sue her. 112 00:04:40,967 --> 00:04:43,633 She could sue you 'cause you were the one driving the car. 113 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:46,700 Now, you went to the police station, and I don't know what happened, 114 00:04:46,767 --> 00:04:48,734 - but there is no police report. - I didn't know there wasn't a report. 115 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,600 - [Judge DiMango] You brought this… - There's a report right here. 116 00:04:50,667 --> 00:04:52,332 - You have a report there? - [Shawnte] Yeah. 117 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,867 - Uh, Byrd? - [Byrd] Sure. 118 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,500 [Judge DiMango] Uh, when was this report generated? 119 00:04:57,567 --> 00:04:58,800 [Shawnte] I got it yesterday. 120 00:05:00,967 --> 00:05:05,333 It says, "Damage on the passenger side of the vehicle," on this report. 121 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,867 It's on the driver side. It's not on the passenger. 122 00:05:06,934 --> 00:05:08,567 [Judge DiMango] Well, that's what you're saying. I know. 123 00:05:08,633 --> 00:05:11,100 But this report is the cougar's car? 124 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:12,367 - [Judge Levy] Yeah. - So, is there… 125 00:05:12,433 --> 00:05:14,667 - [Shawnte] Yeah. Her… - … any report regarding her car? 126 00:05:15,166 --> 00:05:16,300 I did make a report. 127 00:05:16,367 --> 00:05:18,332 I don't know why they don't have the report, 128 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,700 but I went straight to the police station 129 00:05:19,767 --> 00:05:21,834 and made the report right after she hit the car. 130 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:24,033 Yeah. But the problem is that when you got there, 131 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:26,300 they might have taken a statement from you, 132 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:28,000 but they didn't write up a report from you. 133 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:30,567 They took her report. And that's what we have here. 134 00:05:30,633 --> 00:05:34,133 Not that that impacts on this because you were driving her vehicle 135 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,734 when the car was in the accident. 136 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Now, did you have insurance at the time of the incident? 137 00:05:38,467 --> 00:05:41,233 - I did not. - [Judge DiMango] You see, I can't. 138 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:42,867 In good conscience, for me to say, 139 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:46,367 "You know what, you should be recovering money for damages that she caused 140 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:49,567 when you gave her a car that was not insured." 141 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:50,700 I'm just troubled about that. 142 00:05:50,767 --> 00:05:52,734 To help her so she can get on her feet. 143 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,767 To help her and her kids. So I did a good deed. 144 00:05:55,834 --> 00:05:57,734 I know I didn't have insurance, but I was just trying to help her. 145 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,633 I wasn't using the car that often, so I--that's why I didn't have insurance. 146 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:02,767 I know, but you can't. That's not how people help each other out. 147 00:06:02,834 --> 00:06:04,300 What if somebody were killed? 148 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:06,367 And you were driving an uninsured vehicle. 149 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:09,500 No. I don't even know her to not have car insurance on her cars. 150 00:06:09,567 --> 00:06:11,667 - She gave me the impression that it was. - I told her that it wasn't insured. 151 00:06:11,734 --> 00:06:12,734 So that's why I told her like, "If there's any…" 152 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,066 [Judge DiMango] Oh, I believe she knew. I believe… 153 00:06:14,133 --> 00:06:15,233 - She knew. - [Judge DiMango] … it wasn't insured. 154 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:17,100 I believe she knew. I believe you shouldn't have given her the car. 155 00:06:17,166 --> 00:06:18,166 - I believe you shouldn't… - How would I know? 156 00:06:18,233 --> 00:06:19,233 … have been driving the car. 157 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,233 And based on both of those two things, I don't know what I wanna do. 158 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:24,734 I think I do know what I wanna do here actually. 159 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,800 And it really is not gonna make anybody happy. 160 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Judge Levy? 161 00:06:28,834 --> 00:06:32,066 Ms. Horn, did I understand you correctly when you said a moment ago 162 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:34,166 to Judge DiMango that you had a driver's license 163 00:06:34,233 --> 00:06:35,767 when this accident occurred in November? 164 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:37,000 At the time, it was--yeah. 165 00:06:37,066 --> 00:06:38,066 [Judge Levy] Show it to me. 166 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:40,066 If you don't have it right now, go get it. 167 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:43,433 The reason why I don't have my driver's license physically on me 168 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:45,834 is because when I went at the beginning of the year 169 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:48,266 to apply for my Social Security card, 170 00:06:48,332 --> 00:06:51,166 because of the COVID situation, they had me put my driver's license 171 00:06:51,233 --> 00:06:53,567 in the envelope at the Social Security building. 172 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:55,533 I never received my driver's license back. 173 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,133 So that was your only form of ID? 174 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,300 At the time, yeah. 175 00:06:58,367 --> 00:07:00,767 'Cause you didn't have a license when you were driving that vehicle. 176 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:02,900 You just had a California ID that was… 177 00:07:02,967 --> 00:07:04,400 - I had to go to the driver's… - [Judge Levy] That was issued… 178 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,567 I had to go to the DMV to get my driver's license fixed in order-- 179 00:07:07,633 --> 00:07:08,834 in order to buy the car… 180 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:10,467 - Uh, you know… - [Shawnte] … that I bought. 181 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,867 - You know, uh, okay. - Whatever. 182 00:07:12,934 --> 00:07:14,734 I don't even care if you believe it or not. 183 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,066 - My license was fine… - Well, you know, it's… 184 00:07:16,133 --> 00:07:17,367 - … when that accident happened. - I'm looking… 185 00:07:17,433 --> 00:07:19,066 - [Shawnte] I had to go… - I'm looking right here at the copy 186 00:07:19,133 --> 00:07:22,400 of the only ID that California has of you of record. 187 00:07:22,467 --> 00:07:24,200 And it is a non-driver's license. 188 00:07:24,266 --> 00:07:28,967 An ID card issued to you on May 14th, 2021. 189 00:07:29,033 --> 00:07:30,767 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Levy] No license. 190 00:07:30,834 --> 00:07:32,500 Just an ID. 191 00:07:32,567 --> 00:07:35,266 I'm just trying to figure out to what length you would go 192 00:07:35,332 --> 00:07:38,066 to violate the law, to do what you wanted, 193 00:07:38,133 --> 00:07:41,667 despite the fact that it was illegal, unethical, or immoral. 194 00:07:41,734 --> 00:07:42,867 - That's all. - I would go into any length. 195 00:07:42,933 --> 00:07:44,200 - [Judge Levy] That's all. You… - I would go to any length. 196 00:07:44,266 --> 00:07:45,467 - I know you would. - [Shawnte] Okay. 197 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:47,000 And that's part of the issue, isn't it? 198 00:07:49,066 --> 00:07:51,633 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice… 199 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:53,500 You wanna know why she never got a police report? 200 00:07:53,567 --> 00:07:56,933 'Cause in that police report, she said she didn't want 201 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,467 to have the other woman arrested 202 00:07:58,533 --> 00:08:00,333 'cause she knows that she was the aggressor. 203 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,900 And she didn't want you to find out. 204 00:08:01,967 --> 00:08:03,533 [dramatic musical sting] 205 00:08:05,367 --> 00:08:06,967 [theme music plays] 206 00:08:07,033 --> 00:08:10,166 [announcer] Danielle Wright is suing her friend of 20 years, 207 00:08:10,233 --> 00:08:13,934 Shawnte Horn, for $2,500 in car damages. 208 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,700 But Shawnte claims her boyfriend's other girlfriend caused the damages. 209 00:08:18,767 --> 00:08:21,900 So Danielle is suing the wrong person. 210 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:25,266 Ms. Horn, you made it clear, you wouldn't drive the vehicle 211 00:08:25,332 --> 00:08:27,066 that you knew wasn't insured. 212 00:08:27,133 --> 00:08:28,834 I said I was under the impression she had insurance. 213 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:30,300 I never said I wouldn't drive… 214 00:08:30,367 --> 00:08:31,500 - [Judge Levy] Oh, so… - … without insurance. 215 00:08:31,567 --> 00:08:33,033 I said at the time she gave me the car… 216 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:34,100 - [Judge Levy] Okay. - … I had the impression 217 00:08:34,165 --> 00:08:35,400 - that she had car insurance. - Ms. Horn, that's much better. 218 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:36,633 - [Shawnte] That's what I said. - So we could agree then 219 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:38,232 that you would have no problem 220 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:39,667 driving a vehicle without insurance. 221 00:08:39,734 --> 00:08:41,967 - Right. I would have no problem. - [Judge Levy] Good. 222 00:08:42,033 --> 00:08:44,934 So, Ms. Wright, you guys have been friends for 20 years. 223 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Yes. 224 00:08:46,066 --> 00:08:48,667 [Judge Levy] And you tried to do something decent for her. 225 00:08:48,734 --> 00:08:52,767 And unfortunately, all she did was take your good will 226 00:08:52,834 --> 00:08:54,200 and throw it back in your face. 227 00:08:54,266 --> 00:08:57,667 You wanna know why she never got a police report since the time of this crash? 228 00:08:57,734 --> 00:09:01,033 'Cause in that police report, she said she didn't want 229 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:03,233 to have the other party, the other woman, arrested. 230 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:05,033 She could've, she didn't want to. 231 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,500 And she didn't want to 'cause she knows that she was the aggressor. 232 00:09:07,567 --> 00:09:08,900 That's why. 233 00:09:08,967 --> 00:09:10,533 And she didn't want you to find out. 234 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,734 And she didn't think we were gonna find out. 235 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,667 You come on Tribunal, we'll get to the truth. 236 00:09:16,233 --> 00:09:17,333 Period. 237 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Now, you're very frustrated at the poor choices 238 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:23,433 that your friend has made over the 20 years, right? 239 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:26,800 Evictions. Homelessness. It's in your text messages, right? 240 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:28,100 This is crazy. 241 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:29,900 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Levy] Yeah. 242 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:31,233 - Why y'all bringing up something that… - [Judge Levy] And evictions? 243 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,200 - … has nothing to do with this case? - [Judge Levy] Listen. 244 00:09:33,266 --> 00:09:34,767 - Let me explain something to you, ma'am. - [Shawnte] You can explain whatever… 245 00:09:34,834 --> 00:09:35,934 - No one forced you to be here. - [Shawnte] … you wanna explain. 246 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,367 - I don't care about this no more. - No one. 247 00:09:37,433 --> 00:09:38,567 - You wanna leave? - I don't care. 248 00:09:38,633 --> 00:09:40,100 You leave. I'll finish this case without you. 249 00:09:40,165 --> 00:09:41,600 All right. Finish it. 250 00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:43,000 There you go. 251 00:09:43,633 --> 00:09:45,467 Talking about my personal business. 252 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:50,533 That is what we call a guilty mind needs no accuser. 253 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,266 She doesn't intimidate us. 254 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:53,700 She's not smarter than us. 255 00:09:53,767 --> 00:09:55,433 She thinks she is. 256 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:58,367 That's the reason that she gets evicted from places. 257 00:09:58,433 --> 00:10:01,033 It's the reason why her whole life is upside down. 258 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,700 - You gotta pick better friends. - Uh-hmm. 259 00:10:03,767 --> 00:10:06,066 [Judge Levy] The problem however, Ms. Wright, for you, 260 00:10:06,133 --> 00:10:08,767 is that despite your willingness to help her, 261 00:10:08,834 --> 00:10:11,233 you broke a number of rules. 262 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:13,233 You knew she didn't have a license, right? 263 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:15,033 - I think so. - [Judge Levy] Of course, you did. 264 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:19,633 You can't help someone drive a vehicle that you know is non-insured. 265 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:23,233 You can't allow someone else to drive a vehicle that's unregistered. 266 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:27,266 And you acknowledge that had you had insurance on that vehicle 267 00:10:27,333 --> 00:10:29,734 as you are required to have before you gave it to someone, 268 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,033 - insurance would've taken care of this. - Right. Correct. 269 00:10:32,100 --> 00:10:34,400 [Judge Levy] And the reason why insurance didn't take care of it, 270 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:37,367 and you are out this money is because of a decision you made. 271 00:10:37,433 --> 00:10:38,433 Right. 272 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,533 So why is it that we should then award you, in her absence, 273 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,333 money, when the circumstances that resulted in you 274 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,500 not being able to get your car fixed is because you broke the law? 275 00:10:49,567 --> 00:10:50,967 Tell me why. 276 00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:53,967 Hmm, simply 'cause I was just trying to help somebody. 277 00:10:54,033 --> 00:10:55,200 [Judge Levy] I get that. 278 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,367 But you understand why that puts you on a tough spot? 279 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:58,900 - Yeah. - [Judge Levy] Uh-hmm. 280 00:10:58,967 --> 00:11:02,066 Now, you didn't get the estimate that you provided us 281 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:06,500 with here today until after the vehicle that was involved in the accident 282 00:11:06,567 --> 00:11:09,734 on November 21st was involved in a second accident, right? 283 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,633 In--yeah, in May. I was hit from the back on the freeway. 284 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:15,266 So there was no side damage. It was only back damage. 285 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:18,433 And in the estimate, it says, "Previous damage." 286 00:11:18,867 --> 00:11:20,333 It says, "Previous damage." 287 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Right. And even when you were driving in May, you still didn't have insurance 288 00:11:23,066 --> 00:11:24,133 for that car, did you? 289 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,633 - I did not. - [Judge Levy] Yeah. 290 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:27,533 - You gotta make better choices. - [Danielle] Okay. I'm sorry. 291 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,233 [Judge Levy] All right. That's all. Judge Acker. 292 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:30,433 [Judge Acker] Thank you, Judge. 293 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:34,200 By the way, she has, to my mind, my colleagues may disagree, 294 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:38,467 she has a better defense than her attitude suggested that she had, 295 00:11:38,533 --> 00:11:41,433 instead of getting all huffy and walking out on a judge, 296 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:43,165 she should have stayed here to defend her case, 297 00:11:43,233 --> 00:11:44,767 'cause your case is not airtight 298 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:46,934 and you don't win just because somebody throws a tantrum. 299 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,467 At least not in my view. 300 00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:52,767 Because you already testified that you are aware of the fact 301 00:11:52,834 --> 00:11:55,100 that the collision resulted from an altercation 302 00:11:55,165 --> 00:11:56,967 that the defendant was having with the third party. 303 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:58,767 In fact, I think you saw part of it. 304 00:11:58,834 --> 00:12:00,133 - Yeah. - [Judge Acker] You were on FaceTime. 305 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,700 - Uh-hmm. - And don't we have some video 306 00:12:02,767 --> 00:12:04,667 - of the incident that we can review… - Yeah. 307 00:12:04,734 --> 00:12:06,333 - [Judge Acker] … right now? - Yes. 308 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,734 Let's take a look at it. 309 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,000 The defendant's not here to narrate. What's going on? 310 00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:13,533 [Danielle] Well, just a moment before that, 311 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,467 she was rammed by the truck. 312 00:12:15,533 --> 00:12:17,600 [Judge Acker] And that's you in the top left on the… 313 00:12:17,667 --> 00:12:18,767 - Yeah. - [Judge Acker] … FaceTime? 314 00:12:18,834 --> 00:12:22,066 So you knew that there was another vehicle, another driver. 315 00:12:22,133 --> 00:12:24,834 You knew that your friend had no money 316 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:26,367 - because you teased her about it. - Right. 317 00:12:26,433 --> 00:12:28,266 [Judge Acker] You said, "You've been homeless forever." 318 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,033 Why didn't you sue the other person? 319 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:32,200 Um, well, I did not know the lady's name. 320 00:12:32,266 --> 00:12:35,100 I was asking for the information and she said she couldn't get it. 321 00:12:35,165 --> 00:12:37,767 Let me check in my, um, the text messages. 322 00:12:38,266 --> 00:12:41,900 Um, on page 17, 323 00:12:43,433 --> 00:12:45,500 exhibit four, I asked her, 324 00:12:45,567 --> 00:12:47,900 "Hey, are you able to check if the report is done?" 325 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:49,667 And then she said, "No." 326 00:12:49,734 --> 00:12:51,633 She said, "They can't give me no information 327 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:53,266 out the report until it's done. 328 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:54,734 I'll call and check later." 329 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,200 So I've never seen the report. 330 00:12:56,266 --> 00:12:58,433 I don't know this lady's name. I don't know her insurance. 331 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,867 I would have went after her, but I didn't know this lady's name. 332 00:13:01,934 --> 00:13:03,367 I didn't know anything about her. 333 00:13:03,433 --> 00:13:06,767 And I'm looking at these messages now. 334 00:13:06,834 --> 00:13:08,233 Here's what you said to her, 335 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:10,300 "As long as the insurance takes care of it, 336 00:13:10,367 --> 00:13:12,066 - I'm really not tripping." - [Danielle] Yeah. 337 00:13:12,133 --> 00:13:14,767 Where did you think the insurance was going to come from? 338 00:13:14,834 --> 00:13:17,867 The insurance fairies, since neither of you had any time 339 00:13:17,934 --> 00:13:19,433 apparently to get insurance on the car? 340 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,800 Because her boyfriend told her that the lady had insurance, 341 00:13:22,867 --> 00:13:26,000 - so what we're trying to do… - Oh, that the other driver had insurance. 342 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,567 - [Danielle] Yeah. So we were… - I'm on the fence about how irritated 343 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:32,367 I am with you over the insurance issue because Judge Levy reminded me 344 00:13:32,433 --> 00:13:34,767 that you did facilitate something improper. 345 00:13:34,834 --> 00:13:38,266 The flip side of that is you could have expected her, 346 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:42,100 the person who's getting the car for free, to actually get some insurance. 347 00:13:42,165 --> 00:13:45,567 Like, if you make clear to them that they have to get insurance, 348 00:13:45,633 --> 00:13:47,533 that wouldn't make you a facilitator. 349 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,767 I'm just not sure that you made that clear. 350 00:13:49,834 --> 00:13:54,700 But let's go back to the really heated exchange that the two of you had. 351 00:13:55,165 --> 00:13:59,066 She was begging you to go after the other person and you basically said… 352 00:13:59,133 --> 00:14:01,066 - Yeah, it's in a very unkind of way. - … pound sand. 353 00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:04,200 And she said that she gave you that other person's information, 354 00:14:04,266 --> 00:14:06,834 but it's your testimony that you never received it. 355 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:11,033 She--Your Honor, um, she just said she got the report yesterday or… 356 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:14,567 Why shouldn't we just dismiss your lawsuit and have you go sue that person? 357 00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:16,667 Because Shawnte said she was gonna pay me herself. 358 00:14:16,734 --> 00:14:17,800 [Judge Acker] She did. 359 00:14:17,867 --> 00:14:20,233 She actually did. I saw the text message. 360 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:21,834 I don't have anything further. 361 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:25,533 I just wanna point out that this police report that we have 362 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,633 has the other woman as the victim and the only victim in this case. 363 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:32,667 And that's why she doesn't have a police report 364 00:14:32,734 --> 00:14:36,667 because this report has nothing to help her in it at all. 365 00:14:36,734 --> 00:14:39,100 So, I just want you to be aware of that. 366 00:14:39,165 --> 00:14:42,900 And you want her to get insurance on a car that she probably can't 367 00:14:42,967 --> 00:14:44,867 because she's not a licensed driver. 368 00:14:44,934 --> 00:14:49,600 So, I think that you should be fully aware of your circumstances. 369 00:14:49,667 --> 00:14:51,567 And with that, I don't have any other questions. 370 00:14:51,633 --> 00:14:54,033 We're gonna retire to deliberate. Thank you. 371 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:55,967 - Okay. - [Byrd] Court now stands in recess. 372 00:14:56,033 --> 00:14:57,333 Parties are excused. 373 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,633 [dramatic musical sting] 374 00:14:58,867 --> 00:15:00,867 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice… 375 00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:02,867 I'm still on the fence… 376 00:15:02,934 --> 00:15:04,967 But the defendant did say, "I'm gonna pay you." 377 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:08,266 The defendant kept representing she was gonna make those payments. 378 00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:10,300 But she hasn't. And that speaks louder than her words. 379 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,967 [dramatic musical sting] 380 00:15:16,133 --> 00:15:19,633 Okay well, I'm not sure that I even believe that the defendant went 381 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:21,834 to the police precinct. We don't have any evidence of that. 382 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:23,266 There is no police report. 383 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:25,166 I mean there is a statement… 384 00:15:25,233 --> 00:15:28,066 -Uh, she did. She did. So… -There's a statement by her… 385 00:15:28,166 --> 00:15:29,633 So the other woman, according to the police report, 386 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:31,000 -which we just got today. -[Judge DiMango] Yes. 387 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,967 -The other driver, called the police. -Right. 388 00:15:35,033 --> 00:15:37,165 -They responded and took a statement… -Correct. 389 00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:38,934 -…from her at the scene. -[Judge DiMango] Mhm. 390 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:40,834 At the same time, our defendant, 391 00:15:40,934 --> 00:15:44,700 our fleeing defendant, went to the police station 392 00:15:44,767 --> 00:15:48,165 and gave a statement to the police with the boyfriend in the car. 393 00:15:48,333 --> 00:15:51,233 Right. And then he said he didn't know the person's name and then so… 394 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:54,800 So she did give a statement, but it was at the police department. 395 00:15:54,867 --> 00:15:58,200 Okay. So the point here is that the police report that was made 396 00:15:58,266 --> 00:16:00,133 was made on behalf of the other woman 397 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,467 who was the victim in this case according to the police report. 398 00:16:03,567 --> 00:16:06,233 They've included the statement from the defendant 399 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:07,667 because she actually went in there, 400 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,800 but they did not make a report on her behalf. 401 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:11,633 This is very clear here. 402 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:13,834 There's one victim, the victim's name, 403 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,300 and the two statements from the two people. 404 00:16:15,367 --> 00:16:17,066 - Correct. - So that's here. 405 00:16:17,133 --> 00:16:20,266 The boyfriend goes into the precinct and they wanna know the information 406 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:22,166 and he refuses to give the information. 407 00:16:22,233 --> 00:16:23,300 He's between a rock and a hard place. 408 00:16:23,367 --> 00:16:24,367 [Judge DiMango] He's like in there and she's… 409 00:16:24,433 --> 00:16:26,133 - He's got two women on both sides and… - And she's yelling, 410 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,000 "Give me the name. Give 'em the name. Give 'em the name." 411 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:30,000 Anyway, so I have a couple of issues. 412 00:16:30,066 --> 00:16:33,567 One, I have an issue with the fact that I don't like uninsured. 413 00:16:33,633 --> 00:16:34,934 I don't like uninsured. 414 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,467 There was no way that she thought the other woman was gonna go out 415 00:16:37,533 --> 00:16:41,233 and get insurance on a car that she didn't have a license, et cetera. 416 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:44,133 And because of that, I'm not willing to give the plaintiff any money. 417 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,200 - So, I would like… - She… 418 00:16:45,266 --> 00:16:46,533 … to dismiss the complaint. 419 00:16:46,967 --> 00:16:49,500 - That's it. - Listen, I believed the plaintiff 420 00:16:49,567 --> 00:16:52,834 when she said she was trying to make things better for her friend 421 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,266 who was just a mess. 422 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:56,633 Yeah. But look at the decisions she's making. 423 00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:58,000 - Yeah. Yeah. - She's not making any better decisions. 424 00:16:58,066 --> 00:17:00,800 I know. But as far as trying to help out her friend, 425 00:17:00,867 --> 00:17:02,166 that's what she was trying to do. 426 00:17:02,233 --> 00:17:04,433 The plaintiff gave the car to the defendant 427 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,834 knowing it wasn't registered, knowing it wasn't insured, 428 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,066 and knowing that the defendant didn't have a license. 429 00:17:09,133 --> 00:17:10,800 Those were all bad choices. 430 00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:12,266 But in trying to do the right thing, 431 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:16,433 at least my take is that she didn't follow the rules for herself. 432 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:19,767 And had she done that, had she had insurance for the vehicle 433 00:17:19,834 --> 00:17:22,532 that everyone else driving on the road is supposed to have, 434 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,633 then she wouldn't be here, 'cause her insurance carrier 435 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:27,099 would've picked up the damage for the vehicle. 436 00:17:27,165 --> 00:17:30,200 But because she didn't have insurance, she acknowledged it. 437 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:31,767 That's the reason she's in her bind, 438 00:17:31,834 --> 00:17:33,934 and that's the reason I don't think she's entitled to any money. 439 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 - She has remained uninsured. - She's also not driving that. 440 00:17:36,066 --> 00:17:38,533 But I'm still on the fence. 441 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,633 But I will say this, she wasn't driving that car. 442 00:17:41,033 --> 00:17:43,533 So the plaintiff has three cars. 443 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,166 The whole reason the defendant was driving this car is 'cause she's not driving it. 444 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:50,333 So, there's part of me that says, you know, she's like, 445 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,767 "Here, take the wheels." 446 00:17:51,834 --> 00:17:55,500 And then it's incumbent on the driver to do what's responsible in order… 447 00:17:55,567 --> 00:17:57,834 But we don't know if she has any insurance at all on any car. 448 00:17:57,900 --> 00:17:59,033 We don't know if she's got any insurance. 449 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,700 We don't. But is it material now for purposes of this? 450 00:18:01,767 --> 00:18:05,133 No. But other than to paint her as an-- a really--like, she's got a good heart. 451 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,967 I get it. But the bottom line is we can't be risking the safety 452 00:18:08,033 --> 00:18:11,700 and jeopardy of other people out there because she wanted to do a kind thing. 453 00:18:11,767 --> 00:18:12,767 - Just… - I get it. 454 00:18:12,834 --> 00:18:13,934 But I'm not giving her anything. 455 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,233 [Judge Levy] Tanya, think about it from the plaintiff's position. 456 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:18,166 She wants to help her friend. 457 00:18:18,233 --> 00:18:21,400 She wants to give her the vehicle to use that she's not using. 458 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,166 But she, the plaintiff, knows all of these bad-- 459 00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:28,400 horrible decisions that the defendant has made 460 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:32,233 for 20 years that resulted in a criminal arrest 461 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,266 and evictions and homelessness, losing custody of a child, 462 00:18:35,333 --> 00:18:37,567 inability to hold down a job. 463 00:18:37,633 --> 00:18:40,734 That's who she gave a 4,000 pound car to 464 00:18:41,133 --> 00:18:43,900 that, but for the grace of God, wasn't used to hurt someone. 465 00:18:43,967 --> 00:18:46,133 But just think about that, this is like bumper cars. 466 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,367 This is the defendant's frame of mind. 467 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:50,900 That I'm gonna entertain this exercise 468 00:18:50,967 --> 00:18:55,166 with this ex-girlfriend of my boyfriend and start banging into cars. 469 00:18:55,233 --> 00:18:56,767 Someone could have gotten really badly hurt. 470 00:18:56,834 --> 00:18:58,467 - And just… - Exactly. 471 00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:00,266 And it's because I think 472 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:03,400 it's the defendant's bad choices that took us there. 473 00:19:03,467 --> 00:19:07,900 Look, if I had stronger evidence that the plaintiff was fully aware 474 00:19:07,967 --> 00:19:11,633 of the fact that her friend was never gonna get the insurance 475 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:15,767 and fully aware of the fact that her friend was not licensed, 476 00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:16,900 um, I'd be more comfortable. 477 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:18,600 But I think I'm gonna have to dissent. 478 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:20,800 By the way, it was written up as an assault case. 479 00:19:20,867 --> 00:19:23,533 So the police believed that the defendant 480 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:28,667 actually was using the vehicle to go into the other woman's car. 481 00:19:28,734 --> 00:19:30,800 Another part of her bad decisions. 482 00:19:30,867 --> 00:19:33,600 - But, um… - And I think just to put 483 00:19:33,667 --> 00:19:35,734 another pen on my dissent, 484 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,266 I'm not gonna change anybody's mind, but the plaintiff… 485 00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:39,734 - Not mine. - [laughs] 486 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,333 I know you, guy--I'm not gonna change you. 487 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,934 But the defendant did say, "I'm gonna pay you." 488 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,300 The defendant kept representing she was gonna make those payments. 489 00:19:46,367 --> 00:19:48,533 But she hasn't. And that speaks louder than her words. 490 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,633 Indeed. 491 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:51,400 - So you're the dissent. - Yeah. 492 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,400 [dramatic musical sting] 493 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,100 Court is back in session. 494 00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:59,166 Ma'am, I remind you, you're still under oath. 495 00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:00,767 - Thank you, Byrd. - Uh-hmm. 496 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,934 You know, sometimes while we're so busy taking care of other people, 497 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,133 we don't look at our own choices 498 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 and we need a little introspection sometimes 499 00:20:11,066 --> 00:20:12,400 because for whatever reason, 500 00:20:12,467 --> 00:20:15,033 you didn't make some good choices here either. 501 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:19,500 I know you don't like her choices, but for your life and who you are 502 00:20:19,567 --> 00:20:23,900 and where you've gone in life, um, what do you do for a living? 503 00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:25,400 I work at a hospital as a transporter. 504 00:20:25,467 --> 00:20:27,033 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So here you are. 505 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,667 You with a good job and you're making decisions, 506 00:20:29,734 --> 00:20:33,000 giving uninsured vehicles to friends. 507 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:35,266 You know, just not doing the smartest thing. 508 00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:37,767 Now, we're not a unanimous court, we're a divided court. 509 00:20:37,834 --> 00:20:42,633 Judge Levy and I feel one way, and Judge Acker, who was dissenting 510 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:45,700 would have given you the money in this case 511 00:20:45,767 --> 00:20:47,867 that you're asking for because the defendant 512 00:20:47,934 --> 00:20:52,433 represented to you that she had done this and that she would've paid you. 513 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:55,867 And based on that, she felt that that would be the appropriate remedy. 514 00:20:55,934 --> 00:20:58,567 But Judge Levy and I, we couldn't do it. 515 00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:02,467 We felt that you were uninsured, that the vehicle was uninsured, 516 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:05,433 and that we cannot-- we cannot send a message 517 00:21:05,734 --> 00:21:07,467 that it's okay to do these things, 518 00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:12,300 that that should be a priority for you, regardless of the underlying case itself. 519 00:21:12,367 --> 00:21:16,033 And so because of that, we're going to dismiss your cause of action 520 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,033 and you will not be recovering any money 521 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,033 from this court and that's the verdict of the court. 522 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:21,133 [gavel bangs] 523 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,867 [Byrd] This case is now concluded, you may step out. 524 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,700 [announcer] Got family drama? 525 00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:30,900 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 526 00:21:30,967 --> 00:21:35,166 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice. 527 00:21:35,233 --> 00:21:38,166 ["Ride of the Valkyries plays"]