1 00:00:06,266 --> 00:00:08,934 He was a personal trainer to your husband? 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,533 - Correct. - Then you got a little nasty. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,266 I no longer have to deal with you, his dementia, his falling. 4 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:17,200 The guy that you've been dealing with, training, 5 00:00:17,266 --> 00:00:19,233 - had dementia. - He refused to pay. 6 00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:21,166 Once you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. 7 00:00:21,233 --> 00:00:23,300 My frustration began to build. 8 00:00:24,333 --> 00:00:27,333 [announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,767 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 10 00:00:48,967 --> 00:00:52,400 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Los Angeles, California. 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,834 [Byrd] Your Honors, this is case number 2052 12 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:57,700 on account of the matter of Balton versus Johnson. 13 00:00:57,767 --> 00:00:59,166 - Thank you, Byrd. - You're welcome, Judge. 14 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:01,367 Parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 15 00:01:01,433 --> 00:01:04,367 Ms. Balton, the defendant was a personal trainer 16 00:01:04,432 --> 00:01:06,433 to your husband who has dementia, 17 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,400 and you're now suing the defendant for $1,700 18 00:01:09,467 --> 00:01:12,300 because that's the amount that you say you overpaid him 19 00:01:12,367 --> 00:01:14,834 for personal training services. 20 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:17,500 Mr. Johnson, you say that any overpayment 21 00:01:17,567 --> 00:01:20,200 is actually offset by damage 22 00:01:20,265 --> 00:01:21,867 that her husband caused to your car 23 00:01:21,934 --> 00:01:24,000 because in addition to training him, 24 00:01:24,066 --> 00:01:27,033 you also drove him around to and from the sessions. 25 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:31,133 Ms. Balton, you said at the very beginning of your complaint 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,233 that you didn't engage with Mr. Johnson very often. 27 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:37,667 I think you invited him to a holiday dinner last year 28 00:01:37,734 --> 00:01:40,300 to thank him for being so kind to your husband. 29 00:01:40,366 --> 00:01:41,700 How long have you known him? 30 00:01:41,767 --> 00:01:44,333 I haven't really known him at all. 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,866 My husband has the relationship with him. 32 00:01:46,934 --> 00:01:50,233 The only reason I got involved is because my husband has dementia. 33 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:53,866 So I have power of attorney, I handle all of the money. 34 00:01:53,934 --> 00:01:58,600 Kyle will text me through Venmo, tell me how much I owe and I pay him. 35 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:00,767 And that's basically been our relationship. 36 00:02:00,834 --> 00:02:03,900 I believe you said your husband was diagnosed a couple of years ago. 37 00:02:03,967 --> 00:02:07,266 The actual diagnosis was two years ago, but as you may know, 38 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:09,166 dementia does not have an on-off switch, 39 00:02:09,233 --> 00:02:10,767 - unfortunately. - Exactly, sure. 40 00:02:10,834 --> 00:02:14,600 And I think he's probably had it for about ten years being undiagnosed. 41 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:16,266 Sure. And Mr. Johnson, 42 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:19,133 how long have you been training the plaintiff's husband? 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Since November 23rd of 2015. 44 00:02:22,867 --> 00:02:24,800 [Judge Acker] Did you notice changes in his behavior 45 00:02:24,867 --> 00:02:26,400 over the time you were training him? 46 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:31,033 I noticed changes more in his mobility than his behavior. 47 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:34,166 So his behavior got a little worse 48 00:02:34,233 --> 00:02:36,934 within the last year and a half when I was training him. 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,166 Ms. Balton, let's talk about the fees. 50 00:02:39,233 --> 00:02:43,000 You indicated that the initial training was $90 51 00:02:43,066 --> 00:02:45,600 and then you said at some point, it increased to a $100? 52 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:48,834 Yes. Chuck lost his license because of the dementia. 53 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:52,300 So Kyle nicely scheduled him at the end of his day 54 00:02:52,367 --> 00:02:54,367 and then--because his day was over, 55 00:02:54,433 --> 00:02:56,834 he'd then drop Chuck off on his way home. 56 00:02:56,900 --> 00:03:00,767 So that was very helpful and very kind of him 57 00:03:00,834 --> 00:03:04,433 and then he agreed that he would have to raise to a $100 for that 58 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,500 to compensate for gas and whatever. 59 00:03:06,567 --> 00:03:07,567 Completely fine. 60 00:03:07,633 --> 00:03:08,667 [Judge Acker] Is that your understanding, sir? 61 00:03:08,734 --> 00:03:09,834 That is not true, Your Honor. 62 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,100 Mr. Sharp lost his license 63 00:03:12,166 --> 00:03:14,967 because he lost consciousness while driving 64 00:03:15,033 --> 00:03:17,166 and crashed into a fire hydrant 65 00:03:17,233 --> 00:03:20,466 and he didn't wake up from having lost consciousness 66 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:22,200 until he was in the ambulance. 67 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:23,867 - What part of what she said isn't true? - [Kyle] She was--she was saying she-- 68 00:03:23,934 --> 00:03:26,166 he lost his license due to his dementia. 69 00:03:26,233 --> 00:03:28,834 He lost his license due to passing out and crashing his car. 70 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:31,200 Might he have passed out because of the dementia? 71 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:32,600 - [Kyle] I am not a doctor... - I mean, I--I'm just-- 72 00:03:32,667 --> 00:03:35,400 I'm gonna move on because I don't quite understand 73 00:03:35,466 --> 00:03:38,333 - what the point of that quite was. - Well, because she's saying, 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,834 - again, he lost his license... - What we're talking about right now, sir, 75 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,834 is how much you were charging, not why this man lost his license. 76 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:47,834 - So $100 is what you were charging? - That's correct. 77 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:51,000 And a $100 included the personal training... 78 00:03:51,066 --> 00:03:52,066 And the transportation home. 79 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:53,133 [Judge Acker] ... and the transportation. 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,200 - [Kyle] Yes. - Correct. 81 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:56,300 So I'd also give him rides beyond that 82 00:03:56,367 --> 00:03:59,633 because we also had a friendship, it wasn't just strictly business. 83 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:01,533 - [Judge Acker] Sure. Sure. - Yes. 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,633 And how many times a week was your husband 85 00:04:03,700 --> 00:04:05,567 - working with the defendant? - Three times a week. 86 00:04:05,633 --> 00:04:06,633 [Judge Acker] Three times a week. 87 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:08,200 - Three times a week, sir? - Yes. 88 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:10,734 When did the defendant stop training your husband? 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,900 Uh, it was like towards the end of May, beginning of June. 90 00:04:14,967 --> 00:04:17,132 [Judge Acker] I'm gonna read one text message. 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,533 "Please Venmo $2,700 to cover Chuck's training 92 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,100 for May and June ASAP. 93 00:04:23,166 --> 00:04:27,567 I can't let any of my clients continue two months without payment." 94 00:04:27,633 --> 00:04:29,500 - You were surprised to get that. - Very. 95 00:04:29,567 --> 00:04:31,066 [Judge Acker] Now, why were you surprised? 96 00:04:31,133 --> 00:04:34,967 So, every month when I got the Venmo at the beginning of the month, 97 00:04:35,033 --> 00:04:36,533 I would Venmo the money. 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,967 As I said in the text that follows, 99 00:04:39,033 --> 00:04:41,900 I never got a text from Kyle in May 100 00:04:41,967 --> 00:04:43,933 at the beginning of the month saying I owed him money. 101 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,066 I work as a location scout so I'm sort of a crazy schedule 102 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:50,834 in addition to taking care of a husband with dementia. 103 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:52,332 So when he told me, 104 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,000 I said, "You didn't tell me at the beginning of the month. 105 00:04:55,066 --> 00:04:57,266 Meaning, you know, "You don't have get an attitude about it. 106 00:04:57,332 --> 00:04:59,100 I'll pay you. I'm good for it." 107 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:02,700 And I didn't even stop to think at the time that it was too high. 108 00:05:02,767 --> 00:05:04,800 He said, "We'll just settle it all-- 109 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:06,700 you know, we'll settle it all when you get home." 110 00:05:06,767 --> 00:05:08,166 'Cause I think I was out of town working. 111 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:10,967 Now, I'd like to interrupt you because there were some days 112 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:13,834 that your husband was not able to make the training appointments, 113 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:15,000 - correct? - Correct. 114 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:17,700 Before we get to the issue of your car damage, 115 00:05:17,767 --> 00:05:22,332 was there some understanding that you were going to compensate her 116 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,467 for those days or the days he wasn't able to show up? 117 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:28,066 Not only was there days where that occurred 118 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:32,433 but I already compensated Ms. Sharp for $400 before appearing in court today. 119 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,200 [Judge Acker] But that's after you threatened to sue him? 120 00:05:34,266 --> 00:05:38,700 Correct. So there were four days that I have--that I can account for. 121 00:05:38,767 --> 00:05:42,266 There were two other days that I think that he missed that I can't account for. 122 00:05:42,332 --> 00:05:44,834 So it becomes a case of he said, she said. 123 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:49,433 But the gravamen, the central point of your defense, sir, 124 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:53,433 is not we didn't miss these days or he made these days. 125 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:56,166 - It is that the damage to your car... - [Kyle] Absolutely. Absolutely. 126 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,467 ... that her husband caused was so extensive... 127 00:05:58,533 --> 00:06:00,367 - Over a period of time, yes. - [Judge Acker] ... that it offsets 128 00:06:00,433 --> 00:06:03,100 - any overpayment that you might owe her. - [Kyle] That is correct. 129 00:06:03,166 --> 00:06:06,867 I wanna get head around how this damage happened 130 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:09,000 but I think first it would be really helpful 131 00:06:09,066 --> 00:06:12,500 to get a sense of your husband Chuck and the mobility issues 132 00:06:12,567 --> 00:06:16,600 that I think are really germane to why you say this damage took place. 133 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:18,133 Can we play the video 134 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,867 of the plaintiff's husband walking in the gym? 135 00:06:23,233 --> 00:06:24,600 Did you take this video, sir? 136 00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:26,033 [Kyle] Yes, I did yesterday, Your Honor. 137 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,266 'Cause he had not been in the gym and I didn't have the opportunity until. 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 [car horn honks] 139 00:06:31,533 --> 00:06:34,100 [Kyle] That is actually Mr. Chuck Sharp having fallen 140 00:06:34,166 --> 00:06:37,033 within seconds after his driver dropped him off 141 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:38,567 and his driver is only about 20 feet away. 142 00:06:38,633 --> 00:06:40,066 [Kyle] Chuck you ok? 143 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:42,266 [Judge Acker] What driver? I thought you were the driver. 144 00:06:42,332 --> 00:06:44,467 [Kyle] No, he has a driver bring him to the gym, 145 00:06:44,533 --> 00:06:46,700 - and it was only my job to take him home. - [Judge Acker] To take him home. 146 00:06:46,767 --> 00:06:48,467 [Kyle] And the driver that brings him to the gym, 147 00:06:48,533 --> 00:06:50,400 I arranged that driver for him. 148 00:06:50,467 --> 00:06:51,734 [Judge Acker] Who's taking this video? 149 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,800 [Kyle] I am. 150 00:06:52,867 --> 00:06:55,867 Because I knew Mr. Sharp would be coming into the gym at one o'clock. 151 00:06:55,933 --> 00:06:58,567 So if you saw the actual beginning of that video, 152 00:06:58,633 --> 00:07:01,734 I was on the-- across the street when he fell. 153 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,100 And then when he fell, I made my way across 154 00:07:04,166 --> 00:07:05,867 and offered to help him up 155 00:07:05,934 --> 00:07:07,867 and he declined in that video 156 00:07:07,934 --> 00:07:09,467 and said, "No, I don't want you to help me up." 157 00:07:09,533 --> 00:07:11,600 And I was there to try to obtain evidence 158 00:07:11,667 --> 00:07:14,200 to demonstrate to the court his lack of mobility. 159 00:07:14,266 --> 00:07:16,100 That is exactly what I thought you were doing. 160 00:07:16,166 --> 00:07:18,332 When I saw that video, I was like, "That's staged." 161 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,233 - He made that video to make a point. - There you go. 162 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:25,800 Now let's look at your video that you made where you demonstrate 163 00:07:25,867 --> 00:07:29,300 how the plaintiff's husband damaged your car. 164 00:07:29,367 --> 00:07:31,332 - Okay. Okay. - Let's take a look at that. 165 00:07:32,767 --> 00:07:35,332 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 166 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,033 With regard to your car damage, 167 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:40,133 is there a reason why you could not put this through your-- 168 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,300 either your homeowners insurance or your car insurance? 169 00:07:42,367 --> 00:07:45,300 Because Mr. Sharp had already agreed to pay for the damage. 170 00:07:45,367 --> 00:07:47,533 Mr. Sharp has dementia. 171 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,332 [dramatic musical sting] 172 00:07:50,933 --> 00:07:52,600 [theme music plays] 173 00:07:52,667 --> 00:07:57,100 [announcer] Lori Balton is suing personal trainer Kyle Darren Johnson 174 00:07:57,166 --> 00:07:58,967 for $1,700. 175 00:07:59,033 --> 00:08:02,100 Lori claims he overcharged her for months, 176 00:08:02,166 --> 00:08:06,200 but Kyle says damage Lori's husband did to his car 177 00:08:06,266 --> 00:08:09,367 more than makes up for any money he owes her. 178 00:08:09,433 --> 00:08:13,633 Let's look at your video that you made where you demonstrate 179 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:16,867 how the plaintiff's husband damaged your car. 180 00:08:16,934 --> 00:08:18,834 - [Kyle] Okay. - Let's take a look at that. 181 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:21,734 Upon entry of my vehicle... 182 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,367 Mr. Sharp would turn his back to me at the driver side... 183 00:08:25,734 --> 00:08:27,734 and take a seat in the car... 184 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,934 swing his left leg in... 185 00:08:32,366 --> 00:08:33,967 hook his toe underneath... 186 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,467 the glove compartment where the AC panel is... 187 00:08:37,232 --> 00:08:38,967 so he would have leverage to swing the other leg in... 188 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:42,500 and over time that put pressure on the clips 189 00:08:42,567 --> 00:08:44,700 that caused the AC panel to fall to the floor. 190 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:47,700 To exit the car Mr. Sharp... 191 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:50,367 would swing both legs out... 192 00:08:50,433 --> 00:08:54,033 no really any need for him to hook his feet 'cause he's exiting... 193 00:08:55,567 --> 00:08:58,233 and right here where my airbag pillar is... 194 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:00,967 the grey area where it meets the black... 195 00:09:01,033 --> 00:09:03,033 the weatherstrip is where it began to separate... 196 00:09:06,033 --> 00:09:09,000 and Mr. Sharp will upon exiting the vehicle 197 00:09:09,066 --> 00:09:11,400 would stand and lean into that 198 00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:13,633 and push himself forward to get out 199 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:15,400 using the left shoulder because he didn't have the balance 200 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,533 to just lean forward and get out... 201 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:18,900 I didn't know that a Lexus was quite so fragile. 202 00:09:18,967 --> 00:09:20,533 I don't understand this. 203 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,700 Well, actually, the reason this happened is because those panels 204 00:09:24,767 --> 00:09:27,633 and the airbag pillar are not bolted in, 205 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:30,500 they are clipped in because an airbag needs to deploy. 206 00:09:30,567 --> 00:09:32,467 [Judge Acker] Take it up with Lexus. I mean, honestly... 207 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:34,233 - [Kyle] But Your Honor... - ... this seems like such a stretch. 208 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:37,033 You know you're driving somebody with mobility issues. 209 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:38,133 She's paying you. 210 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,033 You're getting extra money to drive someone with mobility issues. 211 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:42,400 It's quite a stretch. 212 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:45,533 At some point, ma'am, did not the defendant say 213 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,200 that he was raising his rate 214 00:09:47,266 --> 00:09:50,300 from a $100 to a $130? 215 00:09:50,367 --> 00:09:51,834 And that was when you said, 216 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,165 "Hey, you can't renegotiate when I've already paid you." 217 00:09:54,233 --> 00:09:55,567 - That is not true. - [Lori] Well, there are two issues 218 00:09:55,633 --> 00:09:57,400 on the rate of $130. 219 00:09:57,467 --> 00:09:59,934 First of all, Kyle says in one of the emails, 220 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,300 "You guys are so ungrateful to me. 221 00:10:02,367 --> 00:10:05,166 I gave you a $30 break in the rate 222 00:10:05,233 --> 00:10:07,433 and you guys never even appreciated it." 223 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:11,834 So again, my working with him was very limited to the Venmo request. 224 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:13,834 So I was never made aware of that. 225 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:18,400 So then that amount of $2,700 that he asked for 226 00:10:18,467 --> 00:10:20,166 that I just paid willingly 227 00:10:20,233 --> 00:10:21,333 because I thought we'd work it out afterwards. 228 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,834 Yeah, 'cause you said, "I didn't realize I was late. 229 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:23,900 - Here's the money." - [Lori] Exactly. 230 00:10:23,967 --> 00:10:26,734 He says, "Effective Friday, June 9th, 231 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,333 Chuck no longer gets a discounted rate." 232 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,900 And that's where you point out, "Hey, but I already paid you June. 233 00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:35,867 You can't change the rate for June." 234 00:10:35,934 --> 00:10:38,734 And your response sir was, "Don't tell me how to run my business." 235 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,567 - And then you got a little nasty. - What... 236 00:10:40,633 --> 00:10:42,200 [Judge Acker] I'm gonna turn it over to Judge DiMango. 237 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:46,533 For somebody who's claiming to have a friendship and a caring for someone, 238 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,700 you did get really nasty. 239 00:10:48,767 --> 00:10:51,800 I mean, I wrote myself a note here, "Wow. He went off the rails." 240 00:10:51,867 --> 00:10:54,734 It says, "No longer have to deal with you, Chuck, 241 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,734 his steroid abuse, his dementia, his falling." 242 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Why would you be so nasty? 243 00:10:59,266 --> 00:11:00,767 [Kyle] To be honest with you Your Honor, 244 00:11:00,834 --> 00:11:03,400 I had already paid $800 out of my pocket 245 00:11:03,467 --> 00:11:05,333 for the damages to my airbag pillar 246 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,734 and he refused to pay after offering to pay originally. 247 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,900 - Okay. - However, 248 00:11:09,967 --> 00:11:13,767 when my AC panel three weeks later fell to the floor 249 00:11:13,834 --> 00:11:15,834 when Mr. Sharp hooked his foot under it, 250 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:19,467 I became so frustrated looking at yet another expense, 251 00:11:19,533 --> 00:11:21,233 my frustration began to build. 252 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:22,900 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So let me pause you there. 253 00:11:22,967 --> 00:11:26,467 Your original charge as you're telling us in here today 254 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:28,734 is to bill the person you're working with 255 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,433 - $130 an hour? - That's correct. 256 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,400 [Judge DiMango] Here because of your friendship 257 00:11:33,467 --> 00:11:36,467 with the plaintiff's husband you said, "You know what? 258 00:11:36,533 --> 00:11:38,066 I'm gonna reduce it $40. 259 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:41,266 I'm gonna bring it down to $90 per session." 260 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:42,834 - Correct? - It was--that's correct. 261 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:45,633 [Judge DiMango] And you, as she said, were kind enough to schedule him 262 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:48,433 at the end of the day and bring him home to her. 263 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,467 And for that service you charged $10 more. 264 00:11:51,533 --> 00:11:54,033 - That made the bill $100. - [Kyle] That's correct. 265 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:56,967 How much in advance did you book your sessions 266 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:58,500 with the defendant 267 00:11:58,567 --> 00:12:01,700 so that you can plan your days with your husband and all? 268 00:12:01,767 --> 00:12:04,667 I--uh, well, he did it Mondays, Wednesdays, 269 00:12:04,734 --> 00:12:06,600 - and Fridays always. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 270 00:12:06,667 --> 00:12:09,033 He would Venmo me at the beginning of the month, you know. 271 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:12,100 And he would give you the dates that you were scheduled to come in. 272 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,200 - Whatever that was. - Well actually, Mrs. Sharp was aware 273 00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:16,700 it was always Monday, Wednesday, Friday for every month. 274 00:12:16,767 --> 00:12:18,967 So when she had late payments, 275 00:12:19,033 --> 00:12:21,033 even though she had been paying monthly 276 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:24,633 for close to a year, she seemed to not recall 277 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,166 that every month I need to make a payment to Kyle. 278 00:12:27,233 --> 00:12:28,266 - And my... - So--wait. Wait. 279 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:29,734 ... reminder to her was a courtesy. 280 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,934 Okay. So would you send him that money 281 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,600 all at once or did you wait 282 00:12:33,667 --> 00:12:35,900 - until the services were performed? - [Lori] All at once. 283 00:12:35,967 --> 00:12:37,767 But he needed to Venmo me 284 00:12:37,834 --> 00:12:41,600 because there were also dates that Chuck did not come. 285 00:12:41,667 --> 00:12:45,800 So Kyle had a policy that unless I gave him 24 hours' notice 286 00:12:45,867 --> 00:12:47,600 that Chuck was not gonna be coming in, 287 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,834 that I had to pay for those sessions as well. 288 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:50,900 - But if I... - [Judge DiMango] So--wait. 289 00:12:50,967 --> 00:12:54,000 So that's why in this May-June issue that we're all dealing with here, 290 00:12:54,066 --> 00:12:57,333 your request for payment, was it in June, for May and June... 291 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,133 - [Kyle] Yes. - ... or was it in May for May and June? 292 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,600 It was in June and I received it on June 3rd. 293 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:03,300 - [Judge DiMango] For May and June. - And June. That's correct. 294 00:13:03,367 --> 00:13:04,934 [Judge DiMango] Is there a reason here now 295 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,266 why you would not have paid May 296 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:09,967 and that in his request for payment June 3rd 297 00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:11,734 it would have had to include the May dates? 298 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,333 An invoice is standard for work. 299 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,633 And I resent the fact 300 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:18,767 that he keeps saying it was a late payment. 301 00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:21,934 Every single time he sent me a Venmo 302 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,967 - telling me I owed him money, I pay. - [Judge DiMango] But that's--okay. 303 00:13:24,033 --> 00:13:25,400 So then my point here--you see this is-- 304 00:13:25,467 --> 00:13:28,700 and here we go with the breakdown in communication. 305 00:13:28,767 --> 00:13:32,400 He thinks he doesn't really need to send you the Venmo request, 306 00:13:32,467 --> 00:13:35,367 but you think that unless you get that 307 00:13:35,433 --> 00:13:38,567 you can't remember that you're supposed to pay him for that month. 308 00:13:38,633 --> 00:13:40,266 - Correct. - [Judge DiMango] So June comes along 309 00:13:40,333 --> 00:13:42,433 and then you sent him $2,700, 310 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:44,767 which represents June and May, 311 00:13:44,834 --> 00:13:48,233 so now you know it's gonna be a Monday, Wednesday, Friday of every month. 312 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:50,667 You know that all your sessions are going to be $100. 313 00:13:50,734 --> 00:13:52,367 They didn't fluctuate the price of the sessions, 314 00:13:52,433 --> 00:13:53,533 - did they? - No. 315 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,165 [Judge DiMango] You then would know in advance 316 00:13:55,233 --> 00:13:58,367 that May has four Monday, Wednesday, Fridays, 317 00:13:58,433 --> 00:14:00,500 and it's at $100 a session. 318 00:14:00,567 --> 00:14:02,200 That's $300 a week. 319 00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:04,200 At four weeks, that's $1,200. 320 00:14:04,266 --> 00:14:07,900 At five weeks in June, it's $1,500, correct? 321 00:14:07,967 --> 00:14:08,967 - Correct. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 322 00:14:09,033 --> 00:14:10,300 And then you say to him, 323 00:14:10,367 --> 00:14:12,967 "Well, what about the days in May if he didn't make it?" 324 00:14:13,033 --> 00:14:15,100 Now, there was a discrepancy in the papers 325 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:17,667 with regard to whether or not it was a six-day difference 326 00:14:17,734 --> 00:14:19,800 or a four-day difference in May. 327 00:14:19,867 --> 00:14:23,000 You do return the $400 to her, 328 00:14:23,066 --> 00:14:24,600 but I don't see, ma'am, 329 00:14:24,667 --> 00:14:27,767 that you were entitled to another two days returned on that. 330 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:30,266 I don't have proof of it, so it's he said, she said. 331 00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:31,533 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So May is done. 332 00:14:32,033 --> 00:14:33,165 So now we have June. 333 00:14:33,233 --> 00:14:36,367 Did your husband go for services in June? 334 00:14:36,433 --> 00:14:38,967 He may have gone for a day or a two at the beginning, 335 00:14:39,033 --> 00:14:40,667 but I think it was right at the beginning 336 00:14:40,734 --> 00:14:42,533 that he said he wasn't training him anymore. 337 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 But my guess would be one possibly two sessions, but again a guest. 338 00:14:45,467 --> 00:14:47,467 [Judge DiMango] Do you have any indication in your books 339 00:14:47,533 --> 00:14:49,233 - because I'm sure you'd be correct. - Yes, I have. 340 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,433 In June--okay. 341 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:54,266 Mr. Sharp attended June 1st. 342 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:55,400 [Judge DiMango] And the 3rd? 343 00:14:55,467 --> 00:14:56,834 [Kyle] Yes. The 6th, the 7th. 344 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:58,800 [Judge DiMango] One, three, so four sessions. 345 00:14:58,867 --> 00:15:01,300 And we will deduct the days that he did not go. 346 00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:02,667 That would go back to her. 347 00:15:02,734 --> 00:15:04,867 With regard to your car damage, 348 00:15:04,934 --> 00:15:07,900 is there a reason why you could not put this through your-- 349 00:15:07,967 --> 00:15:10,300 either your homeowners insurance or car insurance 350 00:15:10,367 --> 00:15:12,600 to get reimbursed for the damages to the vehicle? 351 00:15:12,667 --> 00:15:15,333 Because Mr. Sharp had already agreed to pay for the damage... 352 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,600 Mr. Sharp has dementia. 353 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,000 What if he would've said to you, 354 00:15:19,066 --> 00:15:21,367 "I will buy you a new car, too, if we can't fix it." 355 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:23,667 You would have said to us, "Chuck said it. 356 00:15:23,734 --> 00:15:25,900 I mean, he said he was gonna buy me a new car." 357 00:15:25,967 --> 00:15:27,834 - Come on. Really? - [Kyle] Your Honor, 358 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,800 is Chuck's dementia actually documented by a doctor? 359 00:15:30,867 --> 00:15:32,100 - Because you... - Oh, yes, it is. 360 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:33,734 [Judge DiMango] You saw him. 361 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,900 - Do you think he's faking it? - I'm not. I don't think his... 362 00:15:35,967 --> 00:15:36,967 [Judge DiMango] Do you think he's faking dementia? 363 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:38,667 - Oh, absolutely not. But I don't... - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 364 00:15:38,734 --> 00:15:41,133 ... believe that he has full on set dementia. 365 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,800 I believe, if anything, Mr. Sharp has... 366 00:15:42,867 --> 00:15:46,233 Only when he says things favorable to you he's outside the dementia zone, 367 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:49,967 but when he says things unfavorable to you he's within the dementia zone. 368 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,400 Well, I worked with the man for over seven years. 369 00:15:52,467 --> 00:15:54,165 Yeah, I think I would have an opinion on that. 370 00:15:54,233 --> 00:15:57,133 [Judge DiMango] I think that if he's telling you, "I'm gonna pay," 371 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,533 I'm not quite sure I would take that to the bank. 372 00:16:00,967 --> 00:16:02,300 Judge Levy. 373 00:16:02,367 --> 00:16:03,567 [Judge Levy] You know, I appreciate the fact sir 374 00:16:03,633 --> 00:16:06,834 that you say that there's no medical evidence of his dementia. 375 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:07,967 We don't have it. 376 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:10,266 He's saying that you never showed it to him. 377 00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:12,000 You never made it a special effort 378 00:16:12,066 --> 00:16:15,800 to take your husband's private medical documentation 379 00:16:15,867 --> 00:16:18,533 and give it to the guy who tells him to do this 380 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,867 and do this, right? 381 00:16:20,934 --> 00:16:22,066 - You didn't do that. - No, I didn't. 382 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:23,233 - [Judge Levy] Shame on you. - I'm sorry. 383 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:24,300 [Judge Levy] Shame on you. 384 00:16:24,367 --> 00:16:26,233 And talking about shame on people, 385 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:28,834 sir, how dare you suggest here 386 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:31,433 with this woman standing right here that perhaps, 387 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:34,633 the inference is "perhaps" her husband-- 388 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:36,567 - How long you guys married? - Thirty-five years. 389 00:16:36,633 --> 00:16:39,066 [Judge Levy] Thirty-five years who's living with the man 390 00:16:39,133 --> 00:16:42,100 who sometimes doesn't know who she is 391 00:16:42,165 --> 00:16:44,800 that, "Hey, maybe you're just trying to scam me 392 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:47,367 so I don't get my $130 to have him do this." 393 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:50,734 When you yourself in your text message, 394 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,467 when she says, "When did you get so nasty? 395 00:16:53,533 --> 00:16:55,567 I wasn't even aware there was a problem 396 00:16:55,633 --> 00:16:57,000 and Chuck has dementia." 397 00:16:57,066 --> 00:16:59,000 This is all coming from left field. 398 00:16:59,066 --> 00:17:01,433 If we were to believe what you want us to believe 399 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,934 you would have said when you response, "What dementia?" 400 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,733 I haven't seen any proof of dementia. 401 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,032 This is a big scam." That would you have said. 402 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:10,400 What you said was, "I learned from the best. 403 00:17:10,467 --> 00:17:13,400 I no longer have to deal with you, Chuck, 404 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:17,300 his steroid abuse, his dementia." 405 00:17:17,367 --> 00:17:19,900 You yourself acknowledge the fact 406 00:17:19,967 --> 00:17:22,300 that the guy that you've been dealing with, 407 00:17:22,367 --> 00:17:25,633 training, going to their homes for holiday dinners 408 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:29,200 when you had nowhere else to go had dementia. 409 00:17:29,266 --> 00:17:32,200 And the fact that you come in here and suggest to this woman, 410 00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:35,400 "Maybe this all a big scam" makes me sick. 411 00:17:36,633 --> 00:17:39,233 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 412 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:41,967 You looked like a moron out there recording a poor guy 413 00:17:42,033 --> 00:17:43,400 who's on the sidewalk and he can't move. 414 00:17:43,467 --> 00:17:44,900 I offered to help him up. 415 00:17:44,967 --> 00:17:46,600 [Judge Levy] Oh, hold on one second. Do me a favor. 416 00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:48,200 - Just make sure you catch me... - I didn't want... 417 00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:50,166 ... looking and doing a nice thing for him. 418 00:17:50,233 --> 00:17:52,166 Take my phone and make sure you videotape me. 419 00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:53,233 Are you out of your mind? 420 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,200 [dramatic musical sting] 421 00:17:56,934 --> 00:17:58,567 [theme music plays] 422 00:17:58,633 --> 00:18:01,800 [announcer] Lori Balton wants personal trainer Kyle Darren Johnson 423 00:18:01,867 --> 00:18:05,467 to refund her for sessions that never took place. 424 00:18:05,533 --> 00:18:07,066 Kyle says he owes her nothing 425 00:18:07,233 --> 00:18:10,567 due to damage her husband did to his Lexus. 426 00:18:10,633 --> 00:18:11,934 You know what else makes me sick? 427 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,633 I wanna see that video again 428 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,934 the one where Chuck fell down on the ground. 429 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Uh-hmm. 430 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,433 -[Kyle] Chuck you okay? -Yeah. 431 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,567 -[Kyle] Want me to help you up? -No. 432 00:18:27,834 --> 00:18:29,133 [Kyle] You don't? 433 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,700 [man] How are you feeling? 434 00:18:32,367 --> 00:18:34,367 [man] How you feeling? Like ya'll feel, ya'll feel hurt? 435 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:35,734 Actually I'm fine. 436 00:18:37,767 --> 00:18:39,033 [woman] Is there a reason why you are recording? 437 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,100 [Kyle] Yes, there is. 438 00:18:40,166 --> 00:18:41,967 [Judge Levy] Is there a reason why you're recording? 439 00:18:42,033 --> 00:18:43,734 That's what a complete stranger said. 440 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,433 You look a moron out there recording a poor guy 441 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,200 who's on the sidewalk and he can't move 442 00:18:48,266 --> 00:18:50,233 and you're just setting yourself up for some evidence? 443 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:52,100 What did you think that was gonna do for you? 444 00:18:52,166 --> 00:18:55,700 Demonstrate Mr. Sharp's inability to walk normally, 445 00:18:55,767 --> 00:19:00,300 which leads to his lack of mobility, which leads to the damage to my airbags. 446 00:19:00,367 --> 00:19:02,600 There's no question about his lack of mobility. 447 00:19:02,667 --> 00:19:04,133 She wasn't gonna deny that. 448 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,333 You didn't need a video of him falling. 449 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,300 But it wasn't my fault that he fell, Your Honor. 450 00:19:09,367 --> 00:19:10,400 - [Judge Levy] It's... - I just wanted to help. 451 00:19:10,467 --> 00:19:11,367 [Judge Levy] Are you out of your mind? 452 00:19:11,433 --> 00:19:12,567 - Did anyone accuse... - [Kyle] It's not my fault that he fell. 453 00:19:12,633 --> 00:19:13,567 ... you of pushing him? 454 00:19:13,633 --> 00:19:16,400 What I'm saying is you had a lack of humanity. 455 00:19:16,467 --> 00:19:18,066 I offered to help him up. 456 00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:20,967 [laughs] Oh, hold on one second. Do me a favor. 457 00:19:21,033 --> 00:19:22,233 - Just make sure you catch me... - I didn't want... 458 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:25,734 ... you catch me looking and doing nice a thing for him. 459 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Take my phone and make sure you videotape me. 460 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:30,233 - Are you out of your mind? Come on. - [Kyle] Well, I didn't-- 461 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,800 it would be looking potentially an assault charge 462 00:19:31,867 --> 00:19:33,934 for touching the man without his permission. 463 00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:36,300 [Judge Levy] Hold on. Hold on. 464 00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:37,934 You--one again, 465 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,567 my brother-in-law told me 466 00:19:39,633 --> 00:19:41,734 that once you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. 467 00:19:42,667 --> 00:19:44,000 And here you go digging away. 468 00:19:44,066 --> 00:19:46,967 So you're afraid that this man who's on the ground 469 00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:48,600 might actually charge you with assault? 470 00:19:48,667 --> 00:19:50,600 I have--I can't think for Mr. Sharp. 471 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,467 - All I can say is sir, I--legally... - [Judge Levy] Because is it... 472 00:19:52,533 --> 00:19:54,500 ... you can't touch people without their permission. 473 00:19:54,567 --> 00:19:57,033 And being that there's a court case coming up, 474 00:19:57,100 --> 00:19:59,600 I didn't wanna just go-- I offered to help the man up. 475 00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:02,667 - I mean, what more should I do? - [Judge Levy laughing] 476 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:04,166 Yeah, I get that. I get that. All right. 477 00:20:04,233 --> 00:20:06,800 So we now have the video of him 478 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:09,266 falling and being on the back like a turtle on the street 479 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:10,900 and clearly confused, 480 00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:12,533 doesn't know where he is, right? 481 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,100 And that was what, in January of 2024? 482 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:16,367 - That's correct. - [Judge Levy] Right. Okay. 483 00:20:16,433 --> 00:20:18,333 Was that much different in the way he looked in May? 484 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,667 I'd say it's pretty close to the same. 485 00:20:19,734 --> 00:20:20,934 - [Judge Levy] Pretty close? - Yes. 486 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,166 And that's the day, May, when you get your Lexus form 487 00:20:25,233 --> 00:20:28,266 in which you find out that it's gonna cause you money for the car 488 00:20:28,734 --> 00:20:30,700 and that's when you ask him? 489 00:20:30,767 --> 00:20:32,233 That guy? 490 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:35,000 You ask him if it's okay to pay? 491 00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:37,467 Mr. Sharp had been making his payments for six and a half year. 492 00:20:37,567 --> 00:20:39,400 She only came in in the last year. 493 00:20:39,467 --> 00:20:40,800 [Judge Levy] In the last year? 494 00:20:40,867 --> 00:20:42,934 Hold on. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. 495 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,233 Last year. Does that include May of 2023? 496 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:48,300 Yeah, it does. 497 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:50,934 - You paid in May of 2023. - Correct, Your Honor. 498 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,633 [Judge Levy] So why not just ask her for the money? 499 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:54,400 I'm going to tell you--you know what? I didn't wanna hear you answer. 500 00:20:54,467 --> 00:20:57,834 The reason why you didn't ask the person who is in charge of the money 501 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,100 was because you knew that you were more likely to get a yes 502 00:21:01,166 --> 00:21:03,467 from a guy who you knew had dementia. 503 00:21:03,533 --> 00:21:05,066 That is not true, Your Honor. 504 00:21:05,133 --> 00:21:06,934 - [Judge Levy] I have nothing further. - [Judge DiMango] By the way, 505 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,900 we have a CARFAX here and I just wanna know from you, 506 00:21:09,967 --> 00:21:12,533 - the car has been in an accident, right? - Yes, it is. 507 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,066 [Judge DiMango] And it had some front end damage in the accident 508 00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:16,433 or front quarter panel damage? 509 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:19,734 Um, uh, it--possibly it did, yes. 510 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800 [Judge DiMango] So now we have impact that was pre-existing. 511 00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:24,600 And how old was the vehicle? 512 00:21:24,667 --> 00:21:26,900 - I'm sorry. How many... - It's a 2006. 513 00:21:26,967 --> 00:21:29,066 - 2006? - That's correct. 514 00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:31,433 [Judge DiMango] This is an 18-year-old car. 515 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:35,500 I would guess that you had more than one passenger besides Chuck 516 00:21:35,567 --> 00:21:36,600 - in that front seat? - Yes, absolutely. 517 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:37,667 - Yeah. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 518 00:21:37,734 --> 00:21:39,600 - Anybody have anything else? - I have nothing. 519 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,433 Then we are going to retire to deliberate. 520 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:42,600 Thank you very much. 521 00:21:42,667 --> 00:21:45,800 Court now stands in recess, parties are excused. 522 00:21:45,867 --> 00:21:48,667 [theme music plays] 523 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,000 He never raised the issue of this alleged damage 524 00:21:54,066 --> 00:21:57,500 until she said, "Now, you owe me this money back." 525 00:21:57,567 --> 00:21:59,800 Not once. There's no evidence that he ever did that. 526 00:21:59,867 --> 00:22:02,033 A Lexus is not Faberge egg. 527 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:04,033 One, there's no expert testimony 528 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,900 or evidence whatsoever frankly 529 00:22:06,967 --> 00:22:10,700 that this man's alleged pressure and his mobility issues 530 00:22:10,767 --> 00:22:12,367 are what resulted in this damage. 531 00:22:12,433 --> 00:22:14,667 I think that the defendant's defense 532 00:22:14,734 --> 00:22:18,800 is simply an after-the-fact justification for keeping this woman's money. 533 00:22:18,867 --> 00:22:20,200 And then on top of it, 534 00:22:20,266 --> 00:22:22,700 the way he staged that video 535 00:22:22,767 --> 00:22:24,834 and the lengths that he went to, 536 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:27,266 I think to try to further demean this man 537 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:28,967 I find really unseemly. 538 00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:32,633 Put that aside, I think she's entitled to the $1,700. 539 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,400 I have to disagree with you on what she's entitled to 540 00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:39,567 because she did admit that she wasn't owed the extra $200 for May 541 00:22:39,633 --> 00:22:41,033 and they did do four sessions in June. 542 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:42,400 Oh, my--you're right, right, right. 543 00:22:42,467 --> 00:22:44,100 [Judge DiMango] It's 1,500. 544 00:22:44,166 --> 00:22:45,967 You then would deduct four sessions. 545 00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:47,233 $1,100. 546 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:48,800 So I'm perfectly on board with that. 547 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:51,133 I think that we've seen all sorts of proof of that. 548 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,967 And with regard to the damages that he's talking about, 549 00:22:54,033 --> 00:22:56,767 you have an 18-year-old vehicle that's been in an accident, 550 00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,567 that's had front end damage 551 00:22:58,633 --> 00:23:00,734 which is exactly where all of this was, 552 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,300 and he wants to say that now 553 00:23:02,367 --> 00:23:05,200 after she's asked for a demand back of money 554 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:08,433 that he probably didn't wanna repay her, she now owes him. 555 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:11,066 I mean, it's just a very disingenuous claim 556 00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:14,100 and I'm--you know, I'm troubled, too, by him taking photographs of the man. 557 00:23:14,166 --> 00:23:15,900 And then later trying to say there's nothing wrong with him. 558 00:23:15,967 --> 00:23:19,333 Let me just show you how he falls and now there's nothing wrong with him. 559 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,133 But I'm on board with dismissing that counter claim. 560 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,934 - I agree. - We are unanimous. 561 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,900 [theme music plays] 562 00:23:27,967 --> 00:23:29,066 Court is back in session. 563 00:23:29,133 --> 00:23:30,834 Parties are reminded you're still under oath. 564 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:31,900 Thank you, Byrd. 565 00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:35,300 We have deliberated and we've reached a unanimous verdict. 566 00:23:35,367 --> 00:23:38,200 Mr. Johnson, we are unpersuaded 567 00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:41,300 that the plaintiff's husband's damage to your car 568 00:23:41,367 --> 00:23:43,467 offsets the money that you owe her. 569 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:45,367 There's no expert witness in this case. 570 00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:48,367 We don't know if this damage was caused by the accident, 571 00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:50,900 if it was caused by the plaintiff's husband. 572 00:23:50,967 --> 00:23:53,500 We don't know why it was caused frankly. 573 00:23:53,567 --> 00:23:56,900 And so we found your defense not at all persuasive. 574 00:23:56,967 --> 00:23:58,667 Ma'am, your math was a little bit off 575 00:23:58,734 --> 00:24:01,834 because the defendant did keep contemporaneous records 576 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:03,767 of the training sessions. 577 00:24:03,834 --> 00:24:05,900 And given that there were four sessions, 578 00:24:05,967 --> 00:24:07,834 I think that we went through in June 579 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:09,834 plus the money that you received back, 580 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:12,133 you're not entitled to the $1,700. 581 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,133 You are entitled to be reimbursed in the amount of $1,100. 582 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,300 And that is our unanimous verdict. 583 00:24:18,367 --> 00:24:20,066 And frankly, ma'am, I'm sorry. 584 00:24:20,133 --> 00:24:23,834 It has to be really hard to live with someone in that condition, 585 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:26,300 - but we do wish you our very best. - Thank you so much. 586 00:24:26,367 --> 00:24:28,033 - We wish Chuck our very best. - Thank you so much. 587 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,700 - Good luck to you as well, sir. - Appreciate it. 588 00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:31,834 That's the unanimous judgment of the court. 589 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:33,934 - Thank you. - [Byrd] This case is now concluded. 590 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,967 Parties are excused. You may step out. 591 00:24:39,367 --> 00:24:45,066 Well, I feel they really leaned on Mr. Sharp's dementia. 592 00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:46,767 I don't really know quite what happened to him. 593 00:24:46,834 --> 00:24:48,633 I mean, he was such a nice person 594 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:50,800 and it just--it was like a switch just flipped. 595 00:24:50,867 --> 00:24:54,633 Um, Mr. Sharp's dementia is not to that degree in my opinion 596 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,467 after having worked with him for so many years. 597 00:24:57,533 --> 00:24:58,900 Kyle, he's your friend. 598 00:24:58,967 --> 00:25:02,033 Why are you standing there videotaping and not helping him get up? 599 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:03,600 I don't think it makes me looked callous at all. 600 00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:05,500 Mr. Sharp falls all the time. 601 00:25:05,567 --> 00:25:07,033 That whole thing, you know, 602 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,100 it's like stop digging when you're in the hole. 603 00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:11,266 I cared about him more than he cared about himself 604 00:25:11,333 --> 00:25:14,100 and despite all that, this was the result of my efforts to help him. 605 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:16,066 I got justice for Chuck. 606 00:25:16,133 --> 00:25:18,033 [announcer] Have you been assaulted? 607 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:21,200 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 608 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:25,567 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice. 609 00:25:25,633 --> 00:25:28,667 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]