1 00:00:06,133 --> 00:00:07,533 [Judge Levy] You loaned your car. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,633 Someone hits you. 3 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:11,100 - And then what, they left the scene? - That's correct. 4 00:00:11,166 --> 00:00:13,700 So, why did it take you a month to get a police report? 5 00:00:13,767 --> 00:00:15,934 - Um... - Was that because it was only 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,100 after the accident that you got insurance? 7 00:00:18,166 --> 00:00:20,200 - I'm not sure, Your Honor. - Yeah. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,066 I was just wondering why 9 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:23,734 he was--kept giving me the runaround. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,900 You were just as involved in this scam as he was. 11 00:00:26,967 --> 00:00:28,166 [announcer] Now, on Tribunal Justice. 12 00:00:29,533 --> 00:00:33,066 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 13 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,166 [exciting music plays] 14 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:54,734 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,467 Your Honor, this is case number 2002, 16 00:00:57,533 --> 00:00:58,900 West versus Powell. 17 00:00:58,967 --> 00:01:01,734 All parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 18 00:01:02,133 --> 00:01:04,834 Thank you, Cassandra. All right. Ms. West, 19 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:08,300 your former friend here borrowed your car, was involved in an accident. 20 00:01:08,367 --> 00:01:09,367 Yes. 21 00:01:09,433 --> 00:01:11,633 [Judge Levy] You got an estimate to fix the damage 22 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:13,100 and he refused to pay it. 23 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:16,500 You're suing him for $7,968, 24 00:01:16,567 --> 00:01:19,166 - which is the cost to fix your car. - Correct. 25 00:01:19,233 --> 00:01:22,166 And, Mr. Powell, you say the accident wasn't your fault, 26 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:24,367 that you were the victim of a hit-and-run. 27 00:01:24,433 --> 00:01:27,867 Furthermore, you claim that the estimate was unreasonable 28 00:01:27,934 --> 00:01:31,934 because the amount that she's requesting is more than the car is worth. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 - That's correct, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] And you're just saying that 30 00:01:34,066 --> 00:01:36,667 your former friend is being unreasonable. 31 00:01:36,734 --> 00:01:38,033 - That's correct, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] All right. 32 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,734 Ms. West, you're the plaintiff. Why don't you start by telling us 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,066 what kind of car you had 34 00:01:42,133 --> 00:01:44,934 and when it was that you lent it to your friend over here 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,433 - and why. - Yes, Your Honor. 36 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:51,767 So, it is a 2014 Chrysler 300 S. 37 00:01:52,233 --> 00:01:56,866 I purchased it in March 2022. 38 00:01:56,934 --> 00:01:59,500 By February 2023, 39 00:01:59,567 --> 00:02:02,033 in order for me to purchase the home, 40 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:05,200 I also had to pay off the car at the time of purchase, which I did. 41 00:02:05,266 --> 00:02:07,100 Is this a photograph of your car 42 00:02:07,166 --> 00:02:09,433 - that you provided to us? - Yes, Your Honor. 43 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:13,667 I appreciate everything that I worked-- I have worked hard for. 44 00:02:13,734 --> 00:02:15,934 I am in recovery over four years. 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,867 Since I've been in recovery, 46 00:02:17,934 --> 00:02:21,667 I have maintained a job. I've maintained sobriety. 47 00:02:21,734 --> 00:02:23,966 - I appreciate all that. - What I want you to do is tell me 48 00:02:24,033 --> 00:02:28,166 when it was that you loaned your car to the defendant 49 00:02:28,233 --> 00:02:31,500 - and what the circumstances were. - So on... 50 00:02:32,367 --> 00:02:35,000 April 18th 2023, 51 00:02:35,066 --> 00:02:37,567 I explained to him that I had bought another vehicle 52 00:02:37,633 --> 00:02:41,667 that I use all the time now and I put my car up in the garage. 53 00:02:41,734 --> 00:02:45,133 And he had stated that his vehicle, 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200 his truck was having some issues 55 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:49,066 and he had to put it in the shop 56 00:02:49,133 --> 00:02:51,567 and asked me if he could use my car. 57 00:02:51,633 --> 00:02:55,300 And I said, "I will let you use the car but you have to get insurance on it 58 00:02:55,367 --> 00:02:57,600 because the only insurance that I have on it right now 59 00:02:57,667 --> 00:02:59,600 currently is comprehensive." 60 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:01,867 [Judge Levy] So comprehensive, in other words, 61 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:03,767 that if it was involved in an accident, 62 00:03:03,834 --> 00:03:05,667 - that it would not be covered? - Correct. Yeah. 63 00:03:05,734 --> 00:03:07,233 - [Judge Levy] Okay. - If somebody else was driving it... 64 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:08,867 [Judge Levy] And is that correct, Mr. Powell? 65 00:03:08,934 --> 00:03:11,500 That's what she told you, that if you wanted to borrow the car 66 00:03:11,567 --> 00:03:14,333 on April 18th that you would have to get your own insurance? 67 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,133 - That's correct, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Okay. Continue. 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,066 So he had the car. We stayed in contact. 69 00:03:19,133 --> 00:03:21,233 He told me that he got insurance on the vehicle. 70 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:22,900 [Judge Levy] Did you ask to see a copy of it? 71 00:03:22,966 --> 00:03:24,433 - I did not. - [Judge Levy] Why not? 72 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,800 'Cause he--he's a friend and I trusted his word that, 73 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:28,000 - you know... - Okay. 74 00:03:28,066 --> 00:03:30,066 ... that he would, you know, take care of it... 75 00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:32,300 Mr. Powell, did you get insurance despite the fact 76 00:03:32,367 --> 00:03:34,100 that she didn't ask you to see a copy of it? 77 00:03:34,166 --> 00:03:35,667 - Yes, I did, Your Honor. - And the reason I'm asking that 78 00:03:35,734 --> 00:03:37,600 is because the reason that we're here 79 00:03:37,667 --> 00:03:40,367 is because your insurance did not cover the accident, correct? 80 00:03:40,433 --> 00:03:42,333 - That's correct. - [Judge Levy] So my question to you 81 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,500 is I'd like to see proof that you actually had 82 00:03:45,567 --> 00:03:48,700 a policy in effect as of the end of April, 83 00:03:48,767 --> 00:03:50,966 beginning of May 2023. 84 00:03:51,033 --> 00:03:53,800 I don't have that, but I just have the letter... 85 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:55,633 When was it that you got insurance on that car? 86 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:58,567 I got insurance on it possibly two weeks after April. 87 00:03:58,633 --> 00:04:01,000 About two--oh, but definitely before May? 88 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:02,633 - [Jeffrey] Yes. - Okay. Go on. 89 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:05,066 He messaged me on Messenger 90 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:07,367 stating that somebody hit him in my car. 91 00:04:07,433 --> 00:04:09,300 - [Judge Levy] So it was May 7th? - Yup. 92 00:04:09,367 --> 00:04:11,233 - And you remember that as well, sir? - Yes, Your Honor. 93 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:12,300 [Judge Levy] All right. Do we have a photograph 94 00:04:12,367 --> 00:04:13,834 - of the damage of the vehicle? - Yes. 95 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,200 - [Judge Levy] Okay. - [Tanya] So, Your Honor, 96 00:04:15,266 --> 00:04:17,399 that is when I ended up taking it 97 00:04:17,466 --> 00:04:20,132 - to get an estimate done on the vehicle. - [Judge Levy] That's okay. 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,967 And what discussion, if any, do you have with him regarding payment? 99 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:26,734 So he still had it for approximately 100 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,233 three, four weeks after the accident, 101 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:32,233 which he had time to go and get an estimate done himself. 102 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:35,066 He had time to sit and talk to me about, you know, 103 00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:37,734 working out a payment plan or doing something. 104 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,867 [Jeffrey] Yeah, the reason why I didn't 105 00:04:38,933 --> 00:04:41,734 is because I figured that the insurance would pay for it. 106 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,033 - [Judge Levy] Your insurance? - Yeah. My insurance. 107 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:46,367 [Judge Levy] The insurance that you bought before May 2023? 108 00:04:46,433 --> 00:04:48,867 - Correct. - What did you think at that point? 109 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:49,767 [Tanya] Um, 110 00:04:49,834 --> 00:04:52,467 I was just wondering why he kept giving me the runaround. 111 00:04:52,533 --> 00:04:55,266 I constantly have to get a hold of him, text him, 112 00:04:55,332 --> 00:04:58,200 and I asked him, I said, "Well, did you make a police report? 113 00:04:58,266 --> 00:04:59,533 - Did you call the police?" And he said... - [Judge Levy] And what did he say? 114 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,333 - "... No." - [Judge Levy] Okay. Hold on. 115 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,767 Mr. Powell, why not? 116 00:05:02,834 --> 00:05:04,500 You're claiming that someone hit you 117 00:05:04,567 --> 00:05:06,567 and then what, they left the scene? 118 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:08,367 - That's correct. - [Judge Levy] So how long 119 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,467 after the date of the accident, May 7th, 120 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:12,834 was it that you went to the police? 121 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,133 It was a week later. 122 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,266 - [Judge Levy] A week later? - Yes. 123 00:05:15,333 --> 00:05:16,400 Are you sure about that? 124 00:05:16,467 --> 00:05:17,700 - Yes. - How about a month? 125 00:05:17,767 --> 00:05:20,800 June 7th, right? Because as part of your case, 126 00:05:20,867 --> 00:05:25,033 you submitted to us for our consideration a copy of that police report, right? 127 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:26,100 That's correct. 128 00:05:26,166 --> 00:05:29,767 So why did it take you a month to get a police report? 129 00:05:29,834 --> 00:05:34,533 Um, just--I have no excuse about that. 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,834 I was just... 131 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:37,667 [Judge Levy] It sounds suspicious though, don't it? 132 00:05:37,734 --> 00:05:40,233 - Why'd you wait a month? - I just didn't know what to do, sir. 133 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:41,332 [Judge Levy] Okay. You don't know what to do. 134 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,933 Would it be fair to say though that there came a time in June, 135 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,166 June 7th, that you finally did file the police report, right? 136 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:48,433 - Yes, sir. - How'd you do that? 137 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:51,233 - I did it online. - [Judge Levy] Oh. 138 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,100 So you were in control of the information that you put online? 139 00:05:54,166 --> 00:05:55,967 - That's correct. - [Judge Levy] Would it be fair to also 140 00:05:56,033 --> 00:05:58,900 say that you knew that that police report could be used 141 00:05:58,967 --> 00:06:02,066 as proof of the accident and how you say it happened, 142 00:06:02,133 --> 00:06:05,500 and that the insurance that you say you got but you can't find proof, 143 00:06:05,567 --> 00:06:09,000 you knew that insurance company was eventually gonna want a police report? 144 00:06:09,066 --> 00:06:10,467 - That's right. - [Judge Levy] And that's why 145 00:06:10,533 --> 00:06:13,066 you made sure that when you included information 146 00:06:13,133 --> 00:06:16,033 about the accident in that police report, you were accurate? 147 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:17,667 - Yes. - Thorough? 148 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:19,166 - Yes. - And complete? 149 00:06:19,233 --> 00:06:21,233 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Did you lie about anything 150 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:22,800 - in that police report? - No. 151 00:06:22,867 --> 00:06:25,033 Are you sure? 152 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:27,166 I think I'm sure, Your Honor. 153 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:28,567 - [Judge Levy] You think you're sure? - Yes, sir. 154 00:06:28,633 --> 00:06:29,867 [Judge Levy] Let's take a look. 155 00:06:29,934 --> 00:06:32,100 This is the police report. Minneapolis Police. 156 00:06:32,166 --> 00:06:33,933 You typed in time of the crash 157 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,332 was May 23rd, 2023 158 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 at 5:15 p.m. 159 00:06:39,467 --> 00:06:42,933 Why did you lie in the police report and say that the accident happened 160 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,700 on May 23rd instead of May 7th? 161 00:06:45,767 --> 00:06:48,600 - The accident didn't happen on May 7. - [Judge Levy] Really? 162 00:06:48,667 --> 00:06:51,834 We spent like the last five minutes talking about how you were sure 163 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:54,900 it took place on 05/07 because you have a text message 164 00:06:54,967 --> 00:06:58,767 at 4:58 p.m. saying to the plaintiff, 165 00:06:58,834 --> 00:07:00,767 "Somebody hit me." Does that help? 166 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:02,266 - That's correct. - [Judge Levy] Great. 167 00:07:02,333 --> 00:07:04,133 You also included in your answer 168 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,467 in this lawsuit, it happened on May 7th. 169 00:07:06,533 --> 00:07:09,800 Was that because you didn't actually have insurance on May 7th 170 00:07:09,867 --> 00:07:12,834 and it was only after the accident that you got insurance? 171 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,500 - I'm not sure, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Really? 172 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:17,734 Are you sure about that? You wanna stick with that answer? 173 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,133 Let's go through this police report a little more, shall we? 174 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,633 This is what you wrote. 175 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:24,567 "I had my turn signal on, ready to turn 176 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:28,734 when a gray Honda truck seemingly trying to catch the light 177 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,400 before I turned and sped up 178 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:34,266 versus slowing down and sideswiped me. 179 00:07:34,332 --> 00:07:37,734 The person in the Honda got out, looked at his car, 180 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,567 and when I asked for insurance information, 181 00:07:40,633 --> 00:07:43,133 hopped back in the car and fled the scene." 182 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,367 That's what you wrote, right? 183 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:46,500 - Yes. That's correct. - [Judge Levy] Great. 184 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:47,767 So here's my question. 185 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,332 Why didn't you give a description of the guy? 186 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,433 How were they supposed to find this driver? 187 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:53,500 Was it a guy or a girl? 188 00:07:53,567 --> 00:07:54,900 It was a guy, sir. 189 00:07:54,967 --> 00:07:57,300 [Judge Levy] Black, White, Hispanic? 190 00:07:57,367 --> 00:07:58,400 Black. 191 00:07:58,467 --> 00:08:01,633 Was he tall, short, average? 192 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:02,700 He was tall. 193 00:08:02,767 --> 00:08:05,000 [Judge Levy] What kind of hair did he have or was he bald? 194 00:08:05,467 --> 00:08:06,533 Both. 195 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,500 Are you just making this up as you're going along? 196 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:11,567 - [laughter] - Maybe he's just describing Byrd. 197 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:14,433 [laughter] 198 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:15,967 He may be doing that. 199 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:19,133 You know, in all seriousness though, I don't wanna make light of this. 200 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,433 I suspect the reason you lied about the date was because 201 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:23,533 you didn't actually have insurance on May 7th 202 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,332 and so you had to push the date so that you can then show 203 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,000 that when the accident happened, 204 00:08:29,066 --> 00:08:31,433 you had insurance on the vehicle, right? 205 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:32,667 That makes sense. 206 00:08:32,734 --> 00:08:34,866 But, Ms. West, here's my question to you. 207 00:08:34,933 --> 00:08:37,332 Can you think of anything that you supplied us with 208 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,366 for some strange reason 209 00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,332 that would seem to implicate you in insurance fraud? 210 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,100 He did ask me--tell me that he needed a bill of sale. 211 00:08:47,165 --> 00:08:48,400 [Judge Levy] Oh. And what did you say? 212 00:08:49,367 --> 00:08:51,033 [Tanya] I... 213 00:08:52,033 --> 00:08:54,700 When I talked to him on the phone, I wasn't really comfortable with it 214 00:08:54,767 --> 00:08:56,266 but he said that was the only way 215 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:59,533 that his insurance company would pay for the damages. 216 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,600 So I--that's why I messaged him and said 217 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:03,900 "Hey, when are we gonna do this fake bill of sale?" 218 00:09:03,967 --> 00:09:06,567 - [Judge Levy] This fake bill of sale? - [Tanya] Uh-hmm. 219 00:09:06,633 --> 00:09:08,033 - Right? - [Jeffrey] Well, actually, I tried 220 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:09,934 to buy--I tried to buy it from her. 221 00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:12,133 That's your story? That's what you're gonna stick with? 222 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,967 Well, you don't have a heck of a lot more. You know what? I'm done. Judge Acker. 223 00:09:15,033 --> 00:09:16,100 [Judge Acker] Thank you, Judge Levy. 224 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:18,033 Just to clear a few things up. 225 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:22,500 Byrd, you were not the mysterious hit-and-run driver, correct? 226 00:09:22,567 --> 00:09:24,133 - [laughs] - Thank you. I'm not. 227 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:25,533 [dramatic music plays] 228 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:29,533 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 229 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,967 I don't believe you had a hit-and-run. 230 00:09:31,033 --> 00:09:34,033 People that get in a hit-and-run, they're furious. They're vindictive. 231 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:37,165 They're angry. Especially if it's not their car. 232 00:09:37,233 --> 00:09:38,600 You were none of that. 233 00:09:38,667 --> 00:09:39,967 How long have you been sober for? 234 00:09:40,533 --> 00:09:42,200 [dramatic musical sting] 235 00:09:43,367 --> 00:09:45,367 [dramatic music plays] 236 00:09:45,433 --> 00:09:49,033 [announcer] Tanya West is suing former friend Jeffrey Powell 237 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,500 for wrecking her car and now refusing to pay, 238 00:09:52,567 --> 00:09:55,033 but Jeffrey says Tanya is asking 239 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:57,633 for more than what the car is worth. 240 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:00,066 I wanna go to the heart of your defense. 241 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:01,533 And the heart of your defense, 242 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,700 it's that you don't trust the estimate that she provided. 243 00:10:05,767 --> 00:10:07,500 - That's correct. - I'll note for the record 244 00:10:07,567 --> 00:10:11,033 that a 2014 Chrysler 300, 245 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:14,900 at a minimum, is $9,986. 246 00:10:15,433 --> 00:10:19,200 So I would like for you to explain to me 247 00:10:19,266 --> 00:10:23,333 the basis for your position that the $8,000 repair 248 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,700 that she quoted you is somehow more than the value of the car. 249 00:10:26,767 --> 00:10:28,734 Where do you get that information from? 250 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,367 Well, after I found out that my insurance wouldn't pay for it, 251 00:10:32,433 --> 00:10:36,033 so I told her to go and get a estimate on the car 252 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:38,834 and give it back to me and I'd pay for it out-of-pocket. 253 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,834 [Judge Acker] And she did supply, at first, an estimate, wasn't it? 254 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:44,967 [Jeffrey] Yeah. That's correct. $7,900 something. 255 00:10:45,033 --> 00:10:48,033 And then didn't you go find a second estimate? 256 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:49,700 - Yes, I did. - [Judge Acker] And the second estimate 257 00:10:49,767 --> 00:10:53,066 - was $4,200, isn't that true, sir? - Yeah, but I never was 258 00:10:53,133 --> 00:10:54,900 - supplied that second estimate. - [Judge Acker] Hold on. 259 00:10:54,967 --> 00:10:57,400 As I recall the evidence and I'll confirm it, 260 00:10:57,467 --> 00:10:58,500 you said that's too much. 261 00:10:58,567 --> 00:11:01,667 And, further, you said that the car 262 00:11:01,734 --> 00:11:04,133 only should cost $1,500. 263 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,734 Now, what's the basis for that? Are you a mechanic? 264 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,633 No. But I did look up how much the parts probably--possibly cost. 265 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:13,100 How much the parts possibly cost? 266 00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:14,533 - [Jeffrey] Yeah. - Now, you're not a mechanic, 267 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,166 so I'm assuming that when you were trying to dissect and analyze the damage 268 00:11:19,233 --> 00:11:22,200 that was caused to the car while it was in your custody... 269 00:11:22,266 --> 00:11:24,166 - Well, I did try to... - ... you didn't take the car apart, 270 00:11:24,233 --> 00:11:26,333 you didn't see what was underneath the car. 271 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,567 Can I say something in my defense, Your Honor? 272 00:11:27,633 --> 00:11:29,567 - You can. - Well... 273 00:11:29,633 --> 00:11:32,767 I really appreciate her for allowing me to use the car. 274 00:11:32,834 --> 00:11:35,200 I'm also in recovery. 275 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,266 I was going through a tough time. 276 00:11:38,066 --> 00:11:40,767 And I even offered her 277 00:11:40,834 --> 00:11:42,433 to pay it out of my pocket 278 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:46,467 because of the kindness that she gave to me. 279 00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:48,567 You say you offered 280 00:11:48,633 --> 00:11:50,233 to pay out of your pocket. 281 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:52,467 That's the only option that you had. 282 00:11:52,533 --> 00:11:55,000 You were not doing her a favor by saying, "Hey, you know what? 283 00:11:55,066 --> 00:11:57,000 I'm going to own up to my responsibilities." 284 00:11:57,066 --> 00:11:59,433 That's not an offer. That's what you should have done. 285 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:01,200 But when I got the estimate from her, 286 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:04,233 it was $7,900. 287 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:07,100 And on that estimate, when I explained it to her too 288 00:12:07,166 --> 00:12:10,066 on a text message, I said that that's the insurance estimate. 289 00:12:10,133 --> 00:12:12,100 That's not like a out-of-pocket expense. 290 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,633 [Judge Acker] Sure. Sometimes if somebody knows 291 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:16,033 that somebody with deep pockets 292 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:18,867 like an insurance company is paying, they inflate it. 293 00:12:18,934 --> 00:12:22,266 - [Jeffrey] Yes. - That's why this $4,200 estimate 294 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:24,266 that she secured interests me. 295 00:12:24,333 --> 00:12:27,233 Ma'am, I know I saw the text message, and I'll look for it. 296 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:28,800 I don't wanna waste court time. 297 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,967 But do you recall advising him 298 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:33,367 that you'd found an estimate for $4,200? 299 00:12:33,433 --> 00:12:37,133 Yeah. I went and took it to another place for a second estimate. 300 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,100 He did go--walked around the car. 301 00:12:39,165 --> 00:12:40,700 He gave me that estimate. And he said, 302 00:12:40,767 --> 00:12:43,633 "This is just an estimate. We don't know like..." 303 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:45,533 - How much it's actually gonna cost? - "...how it's gonna cost 304 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,400 once we start tearing it apart 305 00:12:47,467 --> 00:12:50,467 and seeing the damage up under it 'cause it got hit in the wheel." 306 00:12:50,533 --> 00:12:51,600 [Judge Acker] That's helpful. 307 00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:53,400 But yet you, just on your own, 308 00:12:53,467 --> 00:12:55,667 come up with this $1,500 309 00:12:55,734 --> 00:12:57,934 and you think we should settle on that? 310 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,734 Profoundly unfair, sir. 311 00:13:00,233 --> 00:13:01,834 - Judge DiMango? - [Judge DiMango] Thank you. 312 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:04,100 You're a liar. 313 00:13:04,567 --> 00:13:06,166 Everything that I've read 314 00:13:06,233 --> 00:13:09,100 that has been written by you, a lie. 315 00:13:09,734 --> 00:13:13,600 You spun this poor woman around in circles 316 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:15,700 with your BS. 317 00:13:15,767 --> 00:13:18,967 It's clear that all of your statements were diversions. 318 00:13:19,033 --> 00:13:21,533 You know, she says about the car and then you'd say, 319 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,667 "Oh, guess what? I'm going on the radio tonight." 320 00:13:23,734 --> 00:13:26,166 Nice lady that she is, she says, 321 00:13:26,233 --> 00:13:28,233 "Oh, that's nice. I'm happy for you." 322 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:30,367 Non sequitur. Nothing related to it. 323 00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:33,066 Diversion. People that lie divert. 324 00:13:33,133 --> 00:13:36,633 So, let's start by saying you had no insurance at all. 325 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,467 But I can say that you did bring the car 326 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:41,233 - for an oil change, right? - That's correct. 327 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:42,667 [Judge DiMango] 'Cause you know why I know that? 328 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:43,967 'Cause it's on the CARFAX. 329 00:13:44,033 --> 00:13:46,767 Like, "Oh, he did bring the car." I thought this was a good start. 330 00:13:46,834 --> 00:13:49,165 And then I saw the date on the police report and I'm like, 331 00:13:49,233 --> 00:13:51,767 "Wait a minute. I thought the accident was the 7th. 332 00:13:51,834 --> 00:13:54,700 Why is he reporting this accident on the 23rd?" 333 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:57,000 Judge Levy pointed out one of the reasons 334 00:13:57,066 --> 00:13:58,967 was 'cause you were trying to get insurance. 335 00:13:59,033 --> 00:14:01,567 But he thought you actually-- maybe he thought. I don't know. 336 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:04,600 That you got the insurance, but you didn't get any insurance. 337 00:14:05,233 --> 00:14:07,533 I knew you didn't just by listening to you. 338 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,033 And when she says to you, 339 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:12,266 "Did you send the pictures to your insurance company already," 340 00:14:12,333 --> 00:14:14,300 and you say what? 341 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,066 This is, by the way, on June 1st. 342 00:14:17,133 --> 00:14:18,467 I need the police report. 343 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,400 I don't believe you had a hit-and-run. 344 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:23,934 People that get in a hit-and-run are furious. 345 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,133 They're furious. They're vindictive. They're angry. 346 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,133 Especially if it's not their car. You were none of that. 347 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,867 - How long have you been sober for? - Four years. 348 00:14:32,934 --> 00:14:34,200 [Judge DiMango] Did you have any setbacks 349 00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:35,633 - at any point in time? - No. 350 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,200 [Judge DiMango] So, that was my thought at first. 351 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:39,633 Well, maybe you didn't stay around the scene 352 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:43,233 because in my experience from my many years on the bench 353 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:47,100 is that when people don't report accidents immediately or call the police, 354 00:14:47,165 --> 00:14:49,000 it's because they wanna hide something. 355 00:14:49,066 --> 00:14:51,033 Ma'am, I did have insurance on the car. 356 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:53,967 No. What are we doing here--where is it? Where's the proof? 357 00:14:54,033 --> 00:14:57,266 You were trying to pull a scam on the insurance company 358 00:14:57,333 --> 00:15:00,467 and in the end, ultimately, it was her. So, I don't have any other questions. 359 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:04,233 I do. I believe you, Mr. Powell. I know you had insurance on the car. 360 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:06,667 What we're dealing with here is the difference 361 00:15:06,734 --> 00:15:10,900 between an insurance company insuring someone who does not own a car-- 362 00:15:10,967 --> 00:15:15,033 and GEICO insured you but just not for collision. 363 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:17,800 They're not going to insure you for collision 364 00:15:17,867 --> 00:15:20,800 if you don't have an insurable interest 365 00:15:20,867 --> 00:15:23,700 but they would insure you for other things, 366 00:15:23,767 --> 00:15:25,934 for liability insurance for instance 367 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,233 or if someone committed a crime against you, like a hit-and-run, right? 368 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:32,967 - [Jeffrey] Yes, Your Honor. - And that's the reason why you needed 369 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:35,967 that bill of sale to prove to GEICO 370 00:15:36,033 --> 00:15:40,233 on that extra insurance that you were entitled to the payment. 371 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,300 Yes, Your Honor. 372 00:15:41,367 --> 00:15:43,066 My question to you though 373 00:15:43,133 --> 00:15:45,233 is how much of this did the plaintiff know? 374 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,667 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been sitting here all quiet there, Ms. West. 375 00:15:49,734 --> 00:15:51,767 It ain't gonna go so well for you now. 376 00:15:52,834 --> 00:15:54,433 Ms. West, knew what was going on 377 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:55,800 with respect to the insurance 378 00:15:55,867 --> 00:15:57,400 and the fake bill of sale. 379 00:15:57,467 --> 00:15:58,800 - You knew. - Yes. 380 00:15:58,867 --> 00:16:01,900 I knew about the-- that he needed the bill of sale. 381 00:16:01,967 --> 00:16:04,333 Whose idea was it for the fake bill of sale? 382 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:06,667 - It was mine, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Okay. 383 00:16:06,734 --> 00:16:08,767 And you knew that that fake bill of sale 384 00:16:08,834 --> 00:16:11,400 was something he needed to send to GEICO, right, 385 00:16:11,467 --> 00:16:14,266 and that they will be more likely to pay that claim. 386 00:16:14,333 --> 00:16:16,266 I had to kind of put things together 387 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:20,367 to prove that you were just as involved in this scam as he was. 388 00:16:20,834 --> 00:16:23,033 So you go to the auto body place, 389 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:27,667 - the $7,968 bill, right? - [Tanya] Yeah. 390 00:16:27,734 --> 00:16:31,767 And it's you, Tanya West, the insured. What date was it? 391 00:16:31,834 --> 00:16:33,734 It was after I got the vehicle back from him. 392 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,467 It was after you submitted to him the fake bill of sale. 393 00:16:36,533 --> 00:16:39,934 Fake bill of sale we know is June 13th, 2013. 394 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,266 Now, all of a sudden GEICO thinks that you're the owner, 395 00:16:43,333 --> 00:16:46,165 it's on July 18th, 2023, 396 00:16:46,233 --> 00:16:50,734 which is well after you already signed off on this fake bill of sale. 397 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,734 But GEICO smells a rat, right? 398 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,867 - Yes, Your Honor. - Yeah. 399 00:16:56,633 --> 00:16:58,500 GEICO smells a rat 400 00:16:58,567 --> 00:17:00,633 because on June 9th, 401 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,433 they, GEICO, sends you a letter saying, 402 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,333 "Please email me the following, 403 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,266 bill of sale, cash withdrawal receipt 404 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:10,333 for when you purchased the vehicle, 405 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,233 name and contact information of prior vehicle owner." 406 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:15,700 They smell a rat. 407 00:17:15,767 --> 00:17:18,867 And you know why else they smelled a rat? I'm gonna tell you why, 408 00:17:18,934 --> 00:17:24,133 and it has to do with this fake claim of yours that it was a hit-and-run, right? 409 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,500 'Cause you know there was no hit-and-run. You know that. 410 00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:28,467 And I'm gonna tell you why. You might as well tell me the truth. 411 00:17:28,532 --> 00:17:29,533 Eyes of God. 412 00:17:29,934 --> 00:17:31,467 - It was a hit-and-run. - [Judge Levy] There really was? 413 00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:33,300 - Yes. - Okay. Here's why you're lying to me 414 00:17:33,367 --> 00:17:35,000 right now, and I don't understand that. 415 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:35,900 [dramatic music plays] 416 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:39,200 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 417 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:41,700 You've already admitted that you got a second estimate. 418 00:17:41,767 --> 00:17:43,233 You never provided that to us, 419 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,867 'cause you were hoping we would force him to pay you 420 00:17:45,934 --> 00:17:49,300 $8,000 when you knew there was another estimate, 421 00:17:49,367 --> 00:17:52,033 and you would have taken that extra money and put it in your pocket. 422 00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:54,166 [dramatic musical sting] 423 00:17:55,367 --> 00:17:57,333 [dramatic music plays] 424 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,834 [announcer] Tanya West is suing former friend Jeffrey Powell 425 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:03,700 after he borrowed her car and wrecked it, 426 00:18:03,767 --> 00:18:05,834 but Jeffrey says Tanya is asking 427 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:08,333 for more than what the car is worth. 428 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,433 You know there was no hit-and-run. You know that. 429 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,100 And I'm gonna tell you why. You might as well tell me the truth. Eyes of God. 430 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:15,266 - It was a hit-and-run. - [Judge Levy] There really was? 431 00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:16,934 - Yes. - Okay. Here's why you're lying to me 432 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,734 right now, and I don't understand that. 433 00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:22,333 In the accident report, when you put in the narrative 434 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,200 that you had your turn signal on, 435 00:18:24,266 --> 00:18:27,333 that the guy was rushing and he hit you. 436 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,900 The person in the Honda got out, looked at his car, 437 00:18:29,967 --> 00:18:32,333 and when I asked for the insurance information 438 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 hopped back in the car and fled the scene. 439 00:18:35,066 --> 00:18:38,300 I wanna see a show of hands of everybody here, 440 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:39,934 if this happened to them, 441 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,233 who would call 911? 442 00:18:42,767 --> 00:18:43,867 You didn't. 443 00:18:43,934 --> 00:18:46,367 Because if you did call 911 444 00:18:46,433 --> 00:18:48,867 regarding the date that you actually got in that accident, 445 00:18:48,934 --> 00:18:50,934 it would have been May 7th, 446 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,133 not May 23rd, 447 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,467 the day that you put on the accident report. 448 00:18:55,533 --> 00:18:59,500 That 911 call would have been memorialized, recorded, 449 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:01,567 time stamped, date stamped. 450 00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:04,266 That's why I know there was no hit-and-run. 451 00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:06,900 But now, Ms. West, here's the thing, 452 00:19:06,967 --> 00:19:10,734 you've already admitted several times that you got a second estimate 453 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,834 - of $4,200. - Yes. 454 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:14,934 You never provided that to us. 455 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,800 The estimate, that's just for the outer cosmetics too. 456 00:19:17,867 --> 00:19:19,834 That doesn't have anything to do with underneath. 457 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:21,934 'Cause you were hoping we would issue you that order 458 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 and force him to pay you $8,000 459 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:27,100 when you knew there was another estimate, 460 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:30,100 and you would have taken that extra money and put it in your pocket, 461 00:19:30,166 --> 00:19:31,333 - right? - No. 462 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,567 [Judge Levy] I have nothing further. 463 00:19:32,633 --> 00:19:35,567 So we're gonna retire to deliberate at this time. Thank you. 464 00:19:36,033 --> 00:19:37,533 [Cassandra] Court is now in recess. 465 00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:39,066 [dramatic music plays] 466 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:45,066 All right. People lie. Documents don't lie. 467 00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:46,533 Plaintiff, it's her burden. 468 00:19:46,934 --> 00:19:48,333 So she's got to prove 469 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,200 that the defendant owed her a duty of care. She did. 470 00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:54,767 That he breached that duty, he damaged the car. He did. 471 00:19:54,834 --> 00:19:58,900 And that there was a proven value amount of damage. 472 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:02,900 $7,968, that's what she's suing for. 473 00:20:02,967 --> 00:20:05,367 However, she also testified 474 00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:09,633 when forced to that she had a cheaper estimate of $4,200. 475 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:13,433 It was a material omission and the reason she did that 476 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,433 was because she wanted to walk out of here 477 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,834 with a judgment against him for almost $8,000, 478 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:21,667 4,000 more than she was entitled to. 479 00:20:21,734 --> 00:20:24,300 The fact that she failed to provide us with that document, 480 00:20:24,367 --> 00:20:26,767 the estimate of $4,200, in my opinion, 481 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:31,467 means that we are without the necessary information to rule on her claim. 482 00:20:31,533 --> 00:20:33,066 She has unclean hands. 483 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:34,734 We can agree, the defendant, 484 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,500 he was gonna stick with that lie until he can no longer lie 485 00:20:37,567 --> 00:20:40,567 and he said that she was involved as well. And, of course, she knew about it. 486 00:20:40,633 --> 00:20:43,834 She said, "When are we getting together to sign this fake bill of sale," 487 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:47,300 where she knew that the only way she was getting paid 488 00:20:47,367 --> 00:20:51,233 was if she provided false documents to the insurance company. 489 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:54,100 Furthermore, she got a copy of that accident report 490 00:20:54,166 --> 00:20:57,400 and she knew that that accident report contained the date that it did, 491 00:20:57,467 --> 00:20:59,300 May 23rd, which was false, 492 00:20:59,367 --> 00:21:02,066 so as to fit within the coverage of the defendant's policy, 493 00:21:02,133 --> 00:21:03,900 which I believe eventually he did get. 494 00:21:03,967 --> 00:21:06,166 And in my opinion based upon that, 495 00:21:06,233 --> 00:21:08,300 when you come into court with unclean hands, 496 00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:09,767 you get nothing. 497 00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:11,500 I disagree. 498 00:21:11,567 --> 00:21:13,667 I think she made a big mistake. 499 00:21:13,734 --> 00:21:18,266 I think that after having been confronted with this damage 500 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:22,500 with a friend who wasn't stepping up to his responsibility, she panicked. 501 00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:26,800 I think submitting the false information to the insurance company was wrong 502 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,033 and I think that this is a situation where I might distinguish 503 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:33,400 between the sort of mistake for which one should be chided 504 00:21:33,467 --> 00:21:37,934 and the sort of mistake that can defeat you from any recovery, 505 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,934 and I'm just not sure it's the latter. 506 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,767 I found her credible as to her testimony about that $4,000 estimate, 507 00:21:43,834 --> 00:21:47,266 because when I first asked her about it, she said that they told her, 508 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:48,934 "Well, we think we can do it for this. 509 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,567 We're gonna buff out some of the cosmetic damage." 510 00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:56,000 I am not sure what that estimate would have covered. 511 00:21:56,066 --> 00:21:59,734 I'm also not sure that if she receives anything, 512 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,734 that she shouldn't be capped by that, 513 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,066 because you're right, it is a material admission. 514 00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:07,233 But I am sure that I, for one, am not prepared 515 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:10,433 to dismiss her entire lawsuit because she's only here in court 516 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,166 and only has this problem 'cause she tried to do something nice. 517 00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:15,100 So, to me, that mitigates. 518 00:22:15,166 --> 00:22:18,600 Well, you said people lie, documents don't. 519 00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:20,133 People lie and documents lie 520 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,166 because the people filling out the information are lying. 521 00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:24,600 - 'Cause liars [indistinct]. - So--I mean, yes, they lie. 522 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:26,533 - That is true. - [Judge DiMango] And this case 523 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,100 was fraught with lies, and I'm not comfortable 524 00:22:29,166 --> 00:22:30,734 finding that she proved her case 525 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,934 by a fair preponderance of the credible evidence 526 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,166 based on the amount of lies 527 00:22:36,233 --> 00:22:38,934 that we have uncovered in this case from both sides. 528 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,433 So, I think the truth is that one is less than two? 529 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,767 [laughter] 530 00:22:43,834 --> 00:22:46,333 - [Judge Acker] I'll respectfully dissent. - All right. Thank you. 531 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:51,600 [dramatic music plays] 532 00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:52,900 Court is back in session. 533 00:22:52,967 --> 00:22:55,667 All parties are reminded that you're still under oath. 534 00:22:55,734 --> 00:22:59,066 All right. Ms. West, Mr. Powell, we do appreciate you coming in here 535 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:02,367 and telling us your truths and your stories. 536 00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:05,667 And what we learned is that what you told us in your complaint 537 00:23:05,734 --> 00:23:07,867 and in your answer was anything but. 538 00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:11,834 You prepared a fake bill of sale and you helped him do it, 539 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:14,900 and but for the fact that insurance company caught on, 540 00:23:14,967 --> 00:23:16,367 you would have been successful. 541 00:23:16,433 --> 00:23:19,700 We also learned that you filed a false police report 542 00:23:19,767 --> 00:23:20,967 and you were aware of that. 543 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,400 And then to come into court, Ms. West, 544 00:23:23,467 --> 00:23:26,233 and ask us to award you money? 545 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,533 We do not have a unanimous verdict. 546 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,367 It is Judge Acker in the minority 547 00:23:31,433 --> 00:23:35,367 and it is Judge DiMango and I in the majority. 548 00:23:35,433 --> 00:23:38,633 Our decision is you don't come into court, tell lies, 549 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:42,233 and be exposed as fraudsters and expect to win. 550 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:43,934 That's called unclean hands. 551 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,300 So, Ms. West, the decision of the majority 552 00:23:47,767 --> 00:23:50,233 is that your application and request 553 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:53,333 for $7,968 is denied 554 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,066 and your case is dismissed. 555 00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:56,166 [gavel bangs] 556 00:23:56,233 --> 00:23:57,633 [Cassandra] This case is closed. 557 00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:59,767 Parties are reminded to stay here. One second. 558 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,433 I didn't look at it as a fraud at the time. 559 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:06,567 Well, that's not true. 560 00:24:06,633 --> 00:24:10,367 I just feel like I was played by him. 561 00:24:10,433 --> 00:24:13,233 We can make amends with each other and, you know, 562 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:15,166 continue on our journey of recovery, yeah. 563 00:24:15,233 --> 00:24:19,600 I don't really--don't have much to say except for--to Jeff. 564 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,700 - Truth is the only way to go. - Trust nobody. 565 00:24:21,767 --> 00:24:23,567 [announcer] Have you been assaulted? 566 00:24:23,633 --> 00:24:26,867 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 567 00:24:26,934 --> 00:24:29,300 Find us on social media 568 00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:30,200 at Tribunal Justice. 569 00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:34,233 [dramatic music continues]