1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,900 You were once two besties. 2 00:00:08,967 --> 00:00:10,433 Now, you're like two worsties. 3 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:14,967 - She had harassed you and your family? - Yes. 4 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:16,867 So this is to your mother. 5 00:00:16,934 --> 00:00:22,100 "If she doesn't give me my money back, all hell will break loose for everyone. 6 00:00:22,166 --> 00:00:25,000 I know where she lives, 7 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:27,233 where her daycare is." 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,934 You wanted people to be afraid of you. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,967 Shame on you. 10 00:00:31,033 --> 00:00:33,500 [announcer] Now, on Tribunal Justice. 11 00:00:33,567 --> 00:00:36,934 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 12 00:00:54,633 --> 00:00:58,066 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Springfield, Ohio. 13 00:00:58,133 --> 00:01:02,400 [Cassandra] Your Honor, this is case number 2030, Garner versus Hansford. 14 00:01:02,467 --> 00:01:03,500 All parties have been sworn in. 15 00:01:03,567 --> 00:01:04,567 - Thank you, Cassandra. - You're welcome. 16 00:01:04,632 --> 00:01:06,033 You may now be seated. 17 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:08,433 [Judge DiMango] All right, Ms. Garner and Ms. Hansford, 18 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,700 you were once two besties. 19 00:01:11,767 --> 00:01:13,834 In fact, you took a cruise to The Bahamas, 20 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:17,767 and now you're like two worsties, basically reading this. 21 00:01:17,834 --> 00:01:22,834 Ms. Garner, you bought the defendant's 2002 Honda from her 22 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:24,533 - for a $1,000. - [Brooke] Yes, ma'am. 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,066 She promised that she'd give you the title after you made payment in full. 24 00:01:28,133 --> 00:01:30,100 But then she stole the car back from you? 25 00:01:30,166 --> 00:01:32,500 This prevented you, you claim, from going to work, 26 00:01:32,567 --> 00:01:33,967 causing you a loss of income, 27 00:01:34,033 --> 00:01:37,500 and so you're here suing her for the $1,000 for the car 28 00:01:37,567 --> 00:01:40,100 and $4,000 in lost wages. 29 00:01:40,166 --> 00:01:42,400 You say she never paid you in full for the car, 30 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:44,200 which is why you didn't give her the title 31 00:01:44,265 --> 00:01:46,133 and she didn't pay for the vacation. 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,600 But what she did do, according to you, 33 00:01:48,667 --> 00:01:52,066 was that she did threaten you and threaten your family 34 00:01:52,133 --> 00:01:54,600 and taunt you and defame you and harass you 35 00:01:54,667 --> 00:01:56,700 and cause you emotional distress. 36 00:01:56,767 --> 00:02:00,433 And so you have interposed a counterclaim $6,000 37 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:01,934 which you say is the court maximum. 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Correct. 39 00:02:03,066 --> 00:02:04,867 [Judge DiMango] So let's start with the car. 40 00:02:04,934 --> 00:02:06,567 How did you come to buy the car? 41 00:02:06,633 --> 00:02:08,467 So she had knew that I was in need of a car 42 00:02:08,532 --> 00:02:10,366 and she said that she was getting a new car 43 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:12,266 and offered to sell me her old one. 44 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:14,834 Um, she had told me that there was a lot of miles on it. 45 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,200 It needed to be fixed up, but she would sell it to me for a grand. 46 00:02:17,266 --> 00:02:19,667 So I was able to fix it up and just get an A to B car 47 00:02:19,734 --> 00:02:21,400 until I was able to get a nicer car. 48 00:02:21,466 --> 00:02:23,767 And that's a picture of the car in my front yard. 49 00:02:23,834 --> 00:02:26,233 [Judge DiMango] Is that the car you sold to her for a $1,000? 50 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:27,900 - [Jocelynn] Yes, it is, Your Honor. - [Judge DiMango] Go on. 51 00:02:27,966 --> 00:02:30,800 So we were also planning a trip at the same exact time. 52 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:32,667 So I told her I wanted to pay the car first 53 00:02:32,734 --> 00:02:36,066 and then I will pay the trip because I had my bills as well. 54 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:37,333 - Timeout. - [Brooke] Okay. 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,800 When did you make this purchase? 56 00:02:38,867 --> 00:02:40,100 In April, May? When was it? 57 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:42,533 No, this was-- um, I started paying in October 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,367 and then it looks like I finished paying November 15th. 59 00:02:46,433 --> 00:02:49,033 Did you pay the full $1,000? 60 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:50,200 [Brooke] Yes, ma'am, a 100%. 61 00:02:50,266 --> 00:02:53,667 So when I look at the text messages that you've submitted, 62 00:02:53,734 --> 00:02:56,233 it doesn't amount to a $1,000 exactly. 63 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:57,867 It comes out to 900 and change. 64 00:02:57,934 --> 00:02:58,934 [Brooke] Huh. 65 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,700 Well, there was I think maybe $80 66 00:03:01,767 --> 00:03:04,600 that I had given her in cash, but I think that was about it. 67 00:03:04,667 --> 00:03:07,066 Did she pay you almost close to a thousand? 68 00:03:07,133 --> 00:03:08,934 - Right. - [Judge DiMango] I can't believe 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,767 that you would hold the title back for $35? 70 00:03:12,834 --> 00:03:14,100 [Jocelynn] Of course not. Um, Your Honor... 71 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:15,433 So why didn't you give it to her? 72 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:17,700 Because it was a lot more than just the car. 73 00:03:17,767 --> 00:03:21,466 So now you decide while the car situation is going on, 74 00:03:21,533 --> 00:03:24,533 that you're going to take a cruise to what, The Bahamas? 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,800 - Yes. - [Judge DiMango] These are lovely photos, 76 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:28,800 ladies, of you on your trip. 77 00:03:28,867 --> 00:03:29,966 Having a great time, right? 78 00:03:30,033 --> 00:03:32,400 For somebody that never paid, yeah, I had a really good time. 79 00:03:32,466 --> 00:03:34,500 [Judge DiMango] Now how much was this trip? 80 00:03:34,567 --> 00:03:36,533 Because the trip was divided into parts. 81 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,000 The trip had airfare and then the cruise itself. 82 00:03:40,066 --> 00:03:44,667 So why don't you tell me what were you supposed to be paying for Ohio to Florida? 83 00:03:44,734 --> 00:03:45,867 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge DiMango] What was that airfare? 84 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:49,767 So what she had originally told me was that the tickets were $500 each. 85 00:03:49,834 --> 00:03:53,333 [Judge DiMango] But it ends up that somehow she gets them down to... 86 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,400 - $300 apiece. - [Judge DiMango] Why don't you tell us? 87 00:03:55,466 --> 00:03:58,734 How did you get them down from 500 to 300? 88 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,367 I asked one of my friends if they would help support the trip 89 00:04:02,433 --> 00:04:06,600 so that she can pay less because she freaked out about the full 500. 90 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:08,200 She said that was way out of her budget. 91 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:09,633 [Judge DiMango] She did. She repeatedly kept telling you... 92 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:10,767 - Right. - [Judge DiMango] ..."I can't pay it. 93 00:04:10,834 --> 00:04:14,367 I can't pay it." So you booked this ticket for $500, 94 00:04:14,433 --> 00:04:17,600 but you got some sucker to pay $200 95 00:04:17,667 --> 00:04:18,767 - for her. - Yes, ma'am. 96 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:20,233 [Judge DiMango] Now, did you give her that 300? 97 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:22,065 - Yes, ma'am, I did. - Did she give you that 300? 98 00:04:22,132 --> 00:04:23,200 - Yes. Yeah, she did. - [Judge DiMango] Yes? 99 00:04:23,266 --> 00:04:24,734 Okay. So the next thing is 100 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,467 how much was the cruise itself for you individually? 101 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:30,533 - For me individually? - [Judge DiMango] Yeah. 102 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,533 It was supposed to be 250 each. 103 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,066 [Judge DiMango] Accurate or not, Ms. Garner? 104 00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:36,933 Yes, ma'am, about 250. 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Show me where you paid that, 'cause I don't see that anywhere. 106 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:41,834 Um, I had paid the ticket through Cash App. 107 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:45,200 The 300 cash I gave her was for the cruise ticket. 108 00:04:45,266 --> 00:04:47,633 So this right here that says, "Plus 60 for ticket. 109 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:48,533 Ticket paid. 110 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,567 180 for ticket." That's all for the airfare. 111 00:04:51,633 --> 00:04:53,933 Then I gave her cash for the cruise ticket. 112 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,266 Okay. So the--whatever you used it for, it went to whatever it went into. 113 00:04:57,332 --> 00:05:00,333 But the bottom line is you're saying you're still out money from her. 114 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,100 - Correct. - How much do you say she still owes you? 115 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:05,800 At least the 250 for the, um, ticket. 116 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:07,633 She said--you know, when she arrived, 117 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,433 when we were going off to the airport 118 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:13,033 when I was with my friend, she said, "I'm sorry. 119 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:15,533 I don't have the ticket paid yet for the cruise." 120 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,433 - [Judge DiMango] Did you say that? - She's lying 121 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:20,467 because if you look in our text, she even says that my ticket's paid for 122 00:05:20,533 --> 00:05:24,100 and did some itemized on my Cash App aside from the cash that I've sent her. 123 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:26,967 I also have proof of her acknowledging every single payment I've made to her. 124 00:05:27,033 --> 00:05:28,033 [Judge DiMango] With the little heart next to it? 125 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,667 [Brooke] Yes. As well as are sent-in receipts. 126 00:05:30,734 --> 00:05:32,100 - Sorry. - [Judge DiMango] I'm like-- 127 00:05:32,166 --> 00:05:34,433 you're like hyper and she's like half dead. 128 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:36,000 I can't figure out how you both had a good time on the trip. 129 00:05:36,066 --> 00:05:37,567 [indistinct] 130 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:39,266 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So you go on this trip. 131 00:05:39,332 --> 00:05:42,166 You go in and having a good time. What happened? 132 00:05:42,233 --> 00:05:44,033 Let me see if half dead will give it to me. 133 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:46,300 How did this happen? 134 00:05:46,367 --> 00:05:48,500 Um, so before we went on the cruise, 135 00:05:48,567 --> 00:05:52,000 the day of that we went, you know, up in the air, 136 00:05:52,066 --> 00:05:55,867 I had found out on the plane that my, uh--sorry, 137 00:05:55,933 --> 00:05:59,667 one of my friends had been stabbed to death 20 times 138 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:01,066 by my other friend, so... 139 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:02,133 [Judge DiMango] That's in the papers. 140 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,300 And I really think you know that that was upsetting to her. 141 00:06:05,367 --> 00:06:07,467 What she's failing to mention is that I actually told her 142 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:10,333 that we didn't have to go on the trip if she was too upset in the bathroom 143 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,166 as our cruise was about to depart in. 144 00:06:12,233 --> 00:06:13,233 [Judge DiMango] Well that's very kind of you. 145 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:15,767 But I think what you are missing in all of this 146 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:18,834 is what I sort of gleaned from the papers 147 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,800 is that she felt that you were not empathetic and sympathetic 148 00:06:21,867 --> 00:06:26,834 with her loss and she was very traumatized by this death. 149 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:30,332 And you seem to be your happy-go-lucky self. 150 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 And I think that that kind of was troubling to her. 151 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:35,233 - And you take the car from her, right? - Correct. 152 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:36,900 You knew that was gonna tick her off. 153 00:06:36,967 --> 00:06:38,166 You get up. You are ticked off. 154 00:06:38,233 --> 00:06:40,933 And you claim now that you can't go to work. 155 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,533 - So you're out-of-pocket $4,000? - Yes. 156 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,900 [Judge DiMango] What do you do for a living? 157 00:06:44,967 --> 00:06:46,100 Um, I'm a server. 158 00:06:46,166 --> 00:06:47,933 Most of your money would be in tips, I would guess? 159 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,933 Yes, a 100% most of the time. Yes. 160 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,033 [Judge DiMango] And how did you calculate $4,000? 161 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:53,767 Um, I based it off my income. 162 00:06:53,834 --> 00:06:56,800 I was outta work from about two to three months 163 00:06:56,867 --> 00:06:59,867 between transitioning outta my house into my sister's. 164 00:06:59,933 --> 00:07:01,967 How did you get to work before you had her car? 165 00:07:02,033 --> 00:07:03,266 [Brooke] Um, I had to Uber everywhere. 166 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:04,767 [Judge DiMango] So why didn't you just Uber to work? 167 00:07:04,834 --> 00:07:06,934 It'd still be better than $4,000. 168 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,266 That's--you are so right. But the reason... 169 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:09,867 - Oh, thank you. All right. - [Brooke] The reason why I couldn't 170 00:07:09,934 --> 00:07:12,400 was because I had paid for the car 171 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:14,367 and I paid for the trip and I paid for all my bills. 172 00:07:14,433 --> 00:07:16,367 - I had nothing left over to spare. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 173 00:07:16,433 --> 00:07:18,867 So you said, "Let me stay home from work and not get any money at all." 174 00:07:18,934 --> 00:07:20,166 - [Brooke] I... - I got your point. 175 00:07:20,233 --> 00:07:22,700 My next question to you is-- 'cause you have a counterclaim here 176 00:07:22,767 --> 00:07:25,867 and you're suing her for defamation, slander, harassment-- 177 00:07:25,934 --> 00:07:28,734 you sent a lot of messages to her mother. 178 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,800 [Brooke] Yes. 179 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:31,332 [Judge DiMango] Why would you do that to her? 180 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,567 Now I can admit that that was 100% wrong. 181 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:35,500 Yes. Well, thank you because that's what she's suing you for. 182 00:07:35,567 --> 00:07:37,533 Yes. I think what she's failed to mention 183 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,367 is that she's already pressed charges on me for that. 184 00:07:39,433 --> 00:07:41,000 We went to court a couple months ago, 185 00:07:41,066 --> 00:07:42,332 and that should have all been handled. 186 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,867 So I don't even know why I'm getting sued for like... 187 00:07:43,933 --> 00:07:46,133 Well, is that a criminal case that you had against her? 188 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,266 I believe that the--um, 189 00:07:48,332 --> 00:07:50,667 there was a warrant out for her arrest for the criminal 190 00:07:50,734 --> 00:07:52,533 because it got so intense. 191 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,066 But did you show up at that proceeding? 192 00:07:55,133 --> 00:07:57,066 No, we didn't go to court. That's why I'm confused. 193 00:07:57,133 --> 00:08:00,500 Okay. Her case was dismissed. The underlying case. 194 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:01,800 - Yeah. She didn't... - [Judge DiMango] So you are here 195 00:08:01,867 --> 00:08:04,300 suing civilly, not criminally anyway, 196 00:08:04,367 --> 00:08:05,900 for threatening her child 197 00:08:05,967 --> 00:08:09,400 and you told her mother things about her life that you never should have done. 198 00:08:09,467 --> 00:08:11,000 Why would you do that? 199 00:08:11,066 --> 00:08:13,233 Now you say that, but if you go onto her Instagram, 200 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:15,033 what I had spoken to her mother about 201 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,133 is right there public for everybody to know. 202 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,033 [Judge DiMango] But it doesn't mean that you have a right to call her mother, 203 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:23,867 and I'm sorry to say it's got to have to come out 'cause it's in your papers. 204 00:08:23,934 --> 00:08:26,166 - That's all right. - What did you tell her mother? 205 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,367 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 206 00:08:30,433 --> 00:08:32,366 There came a time on this last night of the cruise, ma'am, 207 00:08:32,433 --> 00:08:35,100 when you come back to the room and what? 208 00:08:35,165 --> 00:08:37,799 She's in bed with a guy who I don't know. 209 00:08:37,866 --> 00:08:39,066 No, she's lying. 210 00:08:39,133 --> 00:08:40,799 What photograph is this? 211 00:08:41,366 --> 00:08:42,799 She's lying. 212 00:08:42,866 --> 00:08:44,300 [Jocelynn] She doesn't know about that photograph. 213 00:08:44,367 --> 00:08:46,300 [dramatic musical sting] 214 00:08:47,467 --> 00:08:49,600 [theme music plays] 215 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:54,934 [announcer] Brooke Garner is suing former friend Jocelynn Hansford for $5,000. 216 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,567 Brooke claims Jocelynn stole her car causing her to miss work. 217 00:08:58,633 --> 00:09:03,467 Jocelynn is countersuing for $6,000 in car and cruise ship payments, 218 00:09:03,533 --> 00:09:07,000 along with harassment and defamation claims. 219 00:09:07,066 --> 00:09:08,066 I'm sorry to say 220 00:09:08,133 --> 00:09:09,767 it's gotta have to come out 'cause it's in your papers. 221 00:09:09,834 --> 00:09:11,633 - [Jocelynn] That's all right. - What did you tell her mother? 222 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:13,433 That she was a stripper. 223 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:14,767 [Judge DiMango] That's not your place. 224 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:17,233 I've apologized for that, and I'm telling you right now, I am sorry. 225 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:19,200 I should have never done that to you. 226 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:20,533 [Judge DiMango] And what about all the threats 227 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,000 were about her child and all of that? 228 00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:24,066 Well, like I said, we had went to court for that 229 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:25,834 after I had found out that I had a warrant. 230 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,633 I have not contacted her. I have not reached out. 231 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:31,333 None of this would've came about had she not basically robbed me. 232 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,333 You know? We were best friends and I even tell everybody to this day 233 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,300 - she was a good friend to me. - [Judge DiMango] Uh-hmm. 234 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:38,100 - I loved her more than anything. - [Judge DiMango] Uh-hmm. 235 00:09:38,165 --> 00:09:40,333 We were fine. And she flipped a switch one day. 236 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,633 So I'm very, very sorry for the part that I played. 237 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:45,667 I know what I've done is wrong. I will never touch her. 238 00:09:45,734 --> 00:09:48,433 I will never harm her daughter. I will never do anything like that. 239 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:50,200 I was just very upset because I'm... 240 00:09:50,266 --> 00:09:52,700 [Judge DiMango] Are you confident in that, that she'd never hurt anybody 241 00:09:52,767 --> 00:09:54,800 in your family or you or your child? 242 00:09:54,867 --> 00:09:56,266 No, Your Honor. 243 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:57,533 - [Judge DiMango] Judge Levy. - [Judge Levy] Thanks. 244 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,867 Ms. Hansford, you sold the car for a $1,000. 245 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:01,934 Correct. 246 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,533 [Judge Levy] When you sold it, you kept the title. 247 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,667 Yes. 248 00:10:04,734 --> 00:10:06,367 [Judge Levy] And you, ma'am, made payments. 249 00:10:06,433 --> 00:10:08,700 - Yes. Yes, I am. - [Judge Levy] And we can all agree 250 00:10:08,767 --> 00:10:10,800 that those payments of a $1,000 251 00:10:10,867 --> 00:10:13,333 plus or minus 50 bucks was paid, correct? 252 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Correct. 253 00:10:14,467 --> 00:10:17,266 There came a time when you go on this cruise, 254 00:10:17,333 --> 00:10:19,100 something obviously happened on the cruise. 255 00:10:19,166 --> 00:10:21,900 Who wants to tell me about what happened on the cruise? 256 00:10:21,967 --> 00:10:23,133 Go ahead. 257 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,300 So we were completely fine on the cruise. 258 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:26,033 We were having fun doing our thing. 259 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:29,300 Um, she kept trying to get me to hang out with guys 260 00:10:29,367 --> 00:10:32,066 to pay for everything and I didn't wanna do that. 261 00:10:32,133 --> 00:10:33,767 So we decided to split up and do her own thing. 262 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:35,066 Either way it doesn't matter. 263 00:10:35,133 --> 00:10:37,500 She's a grown woman. She can do whatever she wants, you know. 264 00:10:37,567 --> 00:10:41,266 And, um, basically the--our only thing was for her to be back at the room 265 00:10:41,333 --> 00:10:43,967 by the time that we packed so we can leave together. 266 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:45,600 She never showed up back in the room. 267 00:10:45,667 --> 00:10:48,066 This is the first time I'm seeing her since that cruise. 268 00:10:48,133 --> 00:10:50,100 I packed her belongings for her. 269 00:10:50,165 --> 00:10:54,567 So why is it that you stayed out all night last night of this cruise? 270 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:59,000 So, um, when I was on the cruise I barely got time to mourn. 271 00:10:59,066 --> 00:11:03,800 So we were out at dinner and I just had big tears 272 00:11:03,867 --> 00:11:09,567 and she was like, "Why don't you wait, um, until, you know, we're back at the room." 273 00:11:09,633 --> 00:11:11,667 And I was like, "That's a really good idea. 274 00:11:11,734 --> 00:11:13,467 I'm just gonna try to be happy." 275 00:11:13,533 --> 00:11:15,433 And, um, when I went back to the room, 276 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,233 uh, my only rule on the cruise, 277 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:22,800 because she also is a grown woman, is I don't mind what you do. 278 00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:27,734 Um, just as long as you don't bring someone back to our room. 279 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,367 You know, we can both do whatever... 280 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:30,967 [Judge Levy] Well hold on. This--just so I'm clear. 281 00:11:31,033 --> 00:11:33,700 On this cruise, was there one bed? Was there two beds? 282 00:11:33,767 --> 00:11:34,834 Were there bunk beds? 283 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:35,967 I believe there was one large bed. 284 00:11:36,033 --> 00:11:38,433 [Judge Levy] One large bed. So you guys were sharing a bed? 285 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:39,500 - Correct. - [Judge Levy] Okay. Fine. 286 00:11:39,567 --> 00:11:40,767 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] My sense is that 287 00:11:40,834 --> 00:11:42,967 what cruise you went on and the cruise that I went on 288 00:11:43,033 --> 00:11:45,533 with my kids on a Disney Cruise was a little different. 289 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,800 - Just a little bit. - [Judge Levy] So you have a rule. 290 00:11:47,867 --> 00:11:51,200 You can't bring a guy back to the room because there's only one bed. 291 00:11:51,266 --> 00:11:52,266 That makes sense, right? 292 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:53,567 - You remember that rule? - Nope. No. 293 00:11:53,633 --> 00:11:54,633 [Judge Levy] No. You don't remember that at all? 294 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:55,867 She completely just made that up. 295 00:11:55,934 --> 00:11:57,100 [Judge Levy] Oh, she just made that up? 296 00:11:57,165 --> 00:11:58,533 Okay. Well, there came a time on this last night of the cruise, ma'am, 297 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,400 when you come back to the room and what? 298 00:12:02,467 --> 00:12:06,500 And she's in bed with a guy who I don't know. 299 00:12:06,567 --> 00:12:08,467 - [Judge Levy] Is that true? - No, she's lying. 300 00:12:08,533 --> 00:12:10,200 What photograph is this? 301 00:12:10,266 --> 00:12:11,734 She's lying. 302 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 [Jocelynn] She doesn't know about that photograph, Your Honor. 303 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,500 [Brooke] Um, that's her guy that she brought back to the room, actually. 304 00:12:16,567 --> 00:12:18,834 - [Jocelynn] Who's naked in bed? - Funny you say that. Yeah. 305 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:20,400 - [Jocelynn] Who's naked in bed with you? - [Brooke] Yeah. 306 00:12:20,467 --> 00:12:22,166 So this photograph right here is of you? 307 00:12:22,233 --> 00:12:24,700 - [Brooke] Yes. Now I think that... - [Judge Levy] Hold on. Hold on. 308 00:12:24,767 --> 00:12:26,800 'Cause you looked a little surprised when you saw that photograph 309 00:12:26,867 --> 00:12:27,867 for the first time. 310 00:12:27,934 --> 00:12:30,000 'Cause it seems to me that what happened was 311 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:32,700 you decided on the last night that you were gonna hook up, 312 00:12:32,767 --> 00:12:34,165 which is well within your right. 313 00:12:34,233 --> 00:12:36,600 And as a result of you bringing a guy back to the room, 314 00:12:36,667 --> 00:12:38,967 your friend over here hadda walk around all night 315 00:12:39,033 --> 00:12:41,467 because she wasn't gonna snuggle up with the two of you. 316 00:12:41,533 --> 00:12:42,900 - Do I get that right? - Correct, Your Honor. 317 00:12:42,967 --> 00:12:44,233 No. She was in the room hanging out with us. 318 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:45,600 She slept with us and everything. 319 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,734 [Judge Levy] Now my sense is we're just gonna be making this up 320 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,867 because originally the facial expression about watching, 321 00:12:50,934 --> 00:12:51,967 about seeing that photograph... 322 00:12:52,033 --> 00:12:53,133 - She didn't know. - [Judge Levy] ... spoke volumes. 323 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,433 Now I'm not done with you though, 324 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:57,000 'cause you do have a $6,000 counterclaim 325 00:12:57,066 --> 00:13:00,500 charging and accusing her of failure to pay for a vehicle. 326 00:13:00,567 --> 00:13:01,567 Correct. 327 00:13:01,633 --> 00:13:02,967 [Judge Levy] We now know that that is not accurate, right? 328 00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:04,433 She did pay for the vehicle, 329 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:06,700 give or take 50 bucks on a $1,000 bill. 330 00:13:06,767 --> 00:13:07,767 Right. 331 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:09,433 [Judge Levy] Failure to pay equal portion of a cruise. 332 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,467 Then you have harassment, emotional distress, 333 00:13:11,533 --> 00:13:15,934 defamation of character, libel, slander, invasion of privacy, mental anguish, 334 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,467 and intentional infliction of emotional distress. 335 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:21,934 Now in order to establish intentional infliction of emotional distress, 336 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,467 mental anguish, what you need to prove is that 337 00:13:24,533 --> 00:13:28,433 what she did was so completely outrageous, beyond the pale, 338 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:31,834 that no one should ever engage in the conduct that she did. 339 00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:33,600 You're saying that that's the effect it had on you. 340 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:35,333 That's how terrible it was? 341 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,233 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Yes? Good. 342 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:41,000 So then what'd you wait until November 29th, 2023 to file it for? 343 00:13:41,066 --> 00:13:43,333 Because I was focused on mourning. 344 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Yeah. Well... 345 00:13:44,467 --> 00:13:46,165 [Jocelynn] And then when I got all of the evidence together 346 00:13:46,233 --> 00:13:49,133 to, you know, defend myself for everything then I realized... 347 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,867 [Judge Levy] So then, why did you include in that counterclaim money 348 00:13:51,934 --> 00:13:55,100 for failing to pay for a vehicle when she did pay for the vehicle? 349 00:13:55,165 --> 00:13:57,500 You called the police also on her, didn't you? 350 00:13:57,567 --> 00:13:58,567 Yes, I did. 351 00:13:58,633 --> 00:13:59,734 [Judge Levy] And you didn't tell the police the whole truth 352 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,900 about that vehicle though, did you? 353 00:14:01,967 --> 00:14:03,367 That it was $50 short? 354 00:14:03,433 --> 00:14:04,567 - [Judge Levy] Yeah. - Yes. 355 00:14:04,633 --> 00:14:07,633 Because what you did was you took that vehicle back 356 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:12,834 after she had paid 99% of it under the cover of darkness. 357 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:14,700 You took an extra set of keys, you went to the house, 358 00:14:14,767 --> 00:14:16,000 you got in the car, you left. 359 00:14:16,066 --> 00:14:20,367 And then you wonder why she calls your mother 360 00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:22,066 and blows up your world. 361 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:25,667 If you didn't take that car back, is it more likely or less likely 362 00:14:25,734 --> 00:14:26,967 that she would've blown up your world 363 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:28,400 if you didn't take the car back? 364 00:14:28,467 --> 00:14:29,467 -Less Likely. -Less likely. 365 00:14:29,533 --> 00:14:30,700 Thank you. Judge Acker. 366 00:14:30,767 --> 00:14:31,767 [Judge Acker] I'm gonna help you out 367 00:14:31,834 --> 00:14:36,233 because what the plaintiff, Ms. Garner, may not appreciate 368 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:38,667 is that not only did you give her this car 369 00:14:38,734 --> 00:14:40,834 at a great discount, I mean, right? 370 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:42,100 You got a $1,000 car. 371 00:14:42,165 --> 00:14:44,165 I remember you said in one of your text messages 372 00:14:44,233 --> 00:14:48,165 that you got a great deal and perhaps you don't know this, 373 00:14:48,233 --> 00:14:51,767 but when you enter into a contract 374 00:14:51,834 --> 00:14:55,266 to buy a car from let's say a dealership or a bank, 375 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:57,667 they don't say, "You know what, you stopped making payments. 376 00:14:57,734 --> 00:15:01,667 You made most of them, but you didn't make the last one, so just keep it." 377 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:02,767 They don't do that. 378 00:15:02,834 --> 00:15:05,400 While I do find it incredibly, 379 00:15:05,467 --> 00:15:08,500 gosh, what's the legal term for it? Shady? 380 00:15:08,567 --> 00:15:10,367 To do what you did. 381 00:15:10,433 --> 00:15:13,700 I am not as offended by it as I am by your messages. 382 00:15:13,767 --> 00:15:15,166 - Okay. - [Judge Acker] And there's nothing 383 00:15:15,233 --> 00:15:17,200 that happened in this case 384 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:21,433 that justifies what you said to and about her family. 385 00:15:22,133 --> 00:15:24,734 So what I find interesting is that 386 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,433 when you attempted to justify these hateful messages, 387 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:30,934 you said, well, everybody knows that she's on Instagram 388 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 and you tried to sort of shame her for whatever that work is 389 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:35,200 'cause I don't think it's cute. 390 00:15:35,266 --> 00:15:37,000 I don't think it's charming and I don't think it's funny. 391 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:39,100 And you don't have to admit it or deny it. 392 00:15:39,165 --> 00:15:41,800 You know what? You're not the one who needed to borrow money 393 00:15:41,867 --> 00:15:43,333 and get a car at a discount. 394 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,500 So you've got a job and you're able to handle yourself. 395 00:15:46,567 --> 00:15:48,800 My point to you is that in reading these things, 396 00:15:48,867 --> 00:15:49,900 I'm not trying to embarrass you. 397 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:51,867 So this is to your mother. 398 00:15:51,934 --> 00:15:53,567 She doesn't even know who you are. 399 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:54,900 "I'm sorry, who's this?" 400 00:15:54,967 --> 00:15:56,600 "I'm one of Jocelynn's old friends. 401 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:58,900 Are you aware that she's a stripper? 402 00:15:58,967 --> 00:16:00,967 Jocelynn has been stripping for two years. 403 00:16:01,033 --> 00:16:02,467 You might not care, you might. 404 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:05,467 Either way, I just know she's had this secret identity." 405 00:16:05,533 --> 00:16:07,000 Now I'm gonna move on. 406 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:11,900 "If she doesn't give me my money back, all hell will break loose for everyone. 407 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,533 Your daughter has scammed me out of $1,000 408 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,233 and if I don't get it today, all I have to say is I'm sorry 409 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:21,900 because I know where she works, 410 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,266 where she lives, 411 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:27,066 where her daycare is. 412 00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:29,934 And I will take every step I can 413 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,800 to get her charged or get my money back. 414 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:36,400 Tell her it shouldn't interfere with her stripping schedule. 415 00:16:36,467 --> 00:16:38,500 And if it does, I apologize. 416 00:16:38,567 --> 00:16:40,900 I know she works hard on that pole. 417 00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:45,500 I'm beating the [bleep] out of your weird obsessed whore ass daughter. 418 00:16:45,567 --> 00:16:49,033 We'll also be forwarding to the rest of her family. 419 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:50,834 This is the daughter you raised. 420 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:52,900 Shame on you." Shame on you. 421 00:16:53,667 --> 00:16:56,467 What happened to the criminal charges that you filed against her? 422 00:16:56,633 --> 00:16:59,033 Um, they were accepted immediately. 423 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:02,133 And I had, um, a protection order placed on my daughter and I. 424 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,165 - [Judge Acker] How old is your daughter? - She's five. 425 00:17:04,233 --> 00:17:06,800 Is the criminal case against you still pending? 426 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:10,500 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 427 00:17:10,567 --> 00:17:12,133 Where's the car right now? 428 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,433 Um, it is... 429 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:14,532 You don't know? It's taking you a little long. 430 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:15,700 - [Jocelynn] It's not with me. - Where is it? 431 00:17:15,767 --> 00:17:17,500 It's not with me. It's in Kentucky. 432 00:17:17,567 --> 00:17:19,000 - You sold the car? - [Jocelynn] Yes, I did. 433 00:17:19,066 --> 00:17:20,266 What'd you get for it? 434 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:22,032 [dramatic musical sting] 435 00:17:23,266 --> 00:17:25,367 [theme music plays] 436 00:17:25,433 --> 00:17:27,934 [announcer] Brooke Garner is suing former friend, 437 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Jocelynn Hansford, for $5,000. 438 00:17:30,867 --> 00:17:34,433 Brooke claims Jocelynn stole her car, causing her to miss work. 439 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:39,433 Jocelynn is countersuing for $6,000 in car and cruise ship payments 440 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:42,767 along with harassment and defamation claims. 441 00:17:42,834 --> 00:17:45,033 Is the criminal case against you still pending? 442 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:46,367 No. 443 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:48,367 [Judge Acker] When you're being accused of a crime, 444 00:17:48,433 --> 00:17:51,333 the burden of proof is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. 445 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,233 The same actions that give rise to the criminal charge 446 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:58,667 can also form the basis of a civil suit. 447 00:17:58,734 --> 00:17:59,834 It's just a lower burden of proof. 448 00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:02,333 So she has to show by a preponderance of the evidence 449 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:08,500 that she suffered the litany of emotional distress-related claims 450 00:18:08,567 --> 00:18:10,133 that you're countersuing for. 451 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,467 I mean, honestly, I'm just trying to think 452 00:18:12,533 --> 00:18:14,600 if somebody sent this to my mother, 453 00:18:14,667 --> 00:18:17,233 threatening, "I know where the daycare is." 454 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:20,266 And that is an implied threat that you made about the child. 455 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:22,400 Yeah. Which I was not threatening her child, 456 00:18:22,467 --> 00:18:24,900 but I could see how that implied and it looks very wrong. 457 00:18:24,967 --> 00:18:27,033 You were threatening her child 458 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,867 and you wanted people to be afraid of you. 459 00:18:28,934 --> 00:18:33,800 You were upset about her bad behavior with respect to the car, and it was. 460 00:18:34,433 --> 00:18:38,400 You took the car back not because you were afraid of not getting the $50. 461 00:18:38,467 --> 00:18:41,000 You took the car back because you were mad at her 462 00:18:41,066 --> 00:18:43,500 and there was a maliciousness in that act. 463 00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:47,533 And there was a maliciousness in you sending messages to her mother 464 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,967 and that was an implied threat. 465 00:18:49,033 --> 00:18:52,633 If you don't know what you were doing, don't think that I'm dumb, 'cause I do. 466 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:55,266 No. That's not--I'm--I feel like we're both fighting for our life here. 467 00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:56,433 Well, that's it. 468 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,367 You were fighting for a car 469 00:18:58,433 --> 00:19:01,600 and then threatening the lives of the people who are in hers. 470 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,633 I don't have anything further. 471 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:04,967 Where's the car right now? 472 00:19:05,767 --> 00:19:07,133 - Um, it is... - [Judge DiMango] You don't know? 473 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,967 It's taking you a little long. Where is it? 474 00:19:09,033 --> 00:19:10,834 It's not with me. It's in Kentucky. 475 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:12,133 - You sold the car? - [Jocelynn] Yes, I did. 476 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,266 What'd you get for it? 477 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:14,333 $3,000. 478 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,900 - [Judge DiMango] How much? - $3,000. 479 00:19:15,967 --> 00:19:18,433 Well, it goes to show you, you got a good deal on it. 480 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:19,500 Yeah. I thought it was a great deal. 481 00:19:19,567 --> 00:19:22,100 And it's true that you are a stripper, however, is that correct? 482 00:19:22,166 --> 00:19:23,166 That is correct. 483 00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:25,200 [Judge DiMango] And the reason I'm asking you that is twofold. 484 00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:28,333 One, you have some charges here for defamation 485 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,367 and I'm assuming that that's what you were referring to, 486 00:19:31,433 --> 00:19:34,400 the fact that she was telling people that you were a stripper, 487 00:19:34,467 --> 00:19:38,033 but there is a defense to defamation and that is that it's true. 488 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:40,533 - That's true. Right. - [Judge DiMango] Also, I'm not quite sure 489 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,467 that other people who are using that as a means of a livelihood 490 00:19:45,533 --> 00:19:47,166 would agree that it's defamatory. 491 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:48,834 It's just a different job. 492 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:52,433 But there are a litany of other things that you've asked for here 493 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,633 with regard to the text messages 494 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:57,266 that your family received from the plaintiff. 495 00:19:57,333 --> 00:20:01,600 And I think at this point we're gonna retire to deliberate, ladies. 496 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,367 Court is now in recess. Both parties may exit. 497 00:20:04,433 --> 00:20:07,967 [theme music plays] 498 00:20:08,033 --> 00:20:09,300 Well, based on what we saw in the courtroom, 499 00:20:09,367 --> 00:20:11,900 it's pretty clear that the two of them are sort of addicted 500 00:20:11,967 --> 00:20:14,367 to the toxicity of their relationship with the back and the forth 501 00:20:14,433 --> 00:20:15,900 and just saying awful things. 502 00:20:15,967 --> 00:20:17,900 But starting with the plaintiff's case... 503 00:20:18,767 --> 00:20:22,667 I think she would be entitled to the $1,000 back. 504 00:20:22,734 --> 00:20:24,567 She doesn't have the car. She paid for it. 505 00:20:24,633 --> 00:20:27,867 I don't see what she'd be entitled to $4,000 worth 506 00:20:27,934 --> 00:20:30,266 of unclaimable income from her job 507 00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:34,567 and without any, uh, proof that she actually even deserves that. 508 00:20:34,633 --> 00:20:37,367 So we would put that $1,000 aside. 509 00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:40,133 Going over to the defendant's counterclaim, 510 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,033 - I don't see defamation... - No. 511 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,233 ... because the defamation would've been that she dances 512 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:46,266 - and that doesn't seem to be. - It's true. 513 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:48,734 So that cancels the defamation, the libel, the slander. 514 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,233 So that's out. 515 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:52,066 I know she has some mental anguish 516 00:20:52,133 --> 00:20:53,867 and you could say maybe she's a thin skull plaintiff 517 00:20:53,934 --> 00:20:55,767 because of the death of her friend. 518 00:20:55,834 --> 00:20:59,166 But the bottom line here is what I really see more clearly is harassment. 519 00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:01,967 And I think the harassment was directed towards her. 520 00:21:02,033 --> 00:21:04,734 So just putting the harassment aside, 521 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,834 I don't think she's entitled to anything with regard to the vehicle. 522 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:11,433 I mean, it's ridiculous for her to think that we're gonna give her the money back 523 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:13,233 while she has the car and while she sold the car 524 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,867 for three times the amount that she actually got from her. 525 00:21:16,934 --> 00:21:20,166 But this is my suggestion with regard to the harassment. 526 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:23,700 In criminal court, a misdemeanor harassment 527 00:21:23,767 --> 00:21:26,266 has a maximum fine of a $1,000. 528 00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:28,333 I just really love where I think this is going. 529 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,400 [laughs] 530 00:21:29,467 --> 00:21:31,967 [Judge DiMango] So she has a maximum fine of a $1,000. 531 00:21:32,033 --> 00:21:34,066 The plaintiff is out-of-pocket a $1,000. 532 00:21:34,133 --> 00:21:36,233 It's a wash. We dismiss both. 533 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:37,400 That's how I see it. 534 00:21:37,467 --> 00:21:39,200 - Perfect. - [Judge DiMango] I love being perfect. 535 00:21:39,266 --> 00:21:41,333 - [laughter] - It's beautiful. 536 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,133 - Thank you. - Now you're perfect and beautiful. 537 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,967 - So symmetry as well to it. - Exactly. It's beautiful. 538 00:21:46,033 --> 00:21:47,133 [Judge DiMango] We're unanimous. 539 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,834 - Great. - All right. 540 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:51,934 [theme music plays] 541 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,767 Court is now back in session. 542 00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:55,467 All parties are reminded that you're still under oath. 543 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:57,033 [Judge DiMango] Thank you, Cassandra. 544 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:00,834 Well, this is, ladies a case of good news and bad news. 545 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,433 The good news is you have each met 546 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:06,967 your burden of proof on some of your issues. 547 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:10,300 So, Ms. Garner, you did prove to us 548 00:22:10,367 --> 00:22:12,867 by your preponderance of the credible evidence 549 00:22:12,934 --> 00:22:15,834 that you should get back your $1,000 550 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,500 because you did admittedly keep the car. 551 00:22:19,567 --> 00:22:21,300 In fact, she did you a favor 552 00:22:21,367 --> 00:22:24,233 'cause you got three times the amount on the car. 553 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:27,433 Your $4,000 for unreportable income. 554 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,266 We have no way of predicting that. 555 00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:32,000 So you're not going to get the $4,000. 556 00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:35,867 Then we all agree you would be potentially entitled to your $1,000. 557 00:22:35,934 --> 00:22:38,033 Then we went to your counterclaim. 558 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:41,500 And on your counterclaim, clearly you are not gonna get the car 559 00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:44,433 and the $1,000, so you know that part's going. 560 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:47,100 You really didn't prove by a preponderance of the evidence 561 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:50,033 how much money you really were entitled to for this trip. 562 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:52,600 It was pretty unclear the amount of money that exchanged hands 563 00:22:52,667 --> 00:22:55,033 and didn't in these voluminous texts. 564 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,533 And with regard to your defamation, 565 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,734 first of all, it's a defense if the statement is true. 566 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,166 So you are a stripper. 567 00:23:02,233 --> 00:23:05,166 And I think most strippers would be, uh, insulted 568 00:23:05,233 --> 00:23:08,033 to think that everybody thinks that that's a defamatory job. 569 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,166 So for those reasons, you don't make out your defamation, 570 00:23:11,233 --> 00:23:12,600 your libel, your slander. 571 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,066 But what you did demonstrate to us 572 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:17,100 was that there was harassment here. 573 00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:21,333 Even if we were to take that harassment to the level of a criminal offense, 574 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,567 the most somebody would get from misdemeanor harassment would be a $1,000. 575 00:23:26,633 --> 00:23:30,900 So we have been unanimous in deciding that you would be entitled 576 00:23:30,967 --> 00:23:33,700 on your counterclaim to $1,000. 577 00:23:33,767 --> 00:23:38,367 And so, ladies, the bad news-- neither of you gonna get anything. 578 00:23:38,433 --> 00:23:44,100 And that just seems to be how life can be fair sometimes because it's a wash. 579 00:23:44,166 --> 00:23:46,400 I don't know what the deal is here with the two of you, 580 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:50,000 but really do something more positive with your lives 581 00:23:50,066 --> 00:23:51,567 than what you've been doing. 582 00:23:51,633 --> 00:23:54,333 And please, don't involve people's parents in things. 583 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,133 Everything that goes around comes around. 584 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,266 - Keep that in mind. - Yes, ma'am. 585 00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:01,300 Your cases, ladies, are not really dismissed, 586 00:24:01,367 --> 00:24:04,467 but your money is not getting to both of you, 587 00:24:04,533 --> 00:24:06,433 so that's the verdict of the court. 588 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,033 - Thank you. - [Cassandra] This case has concluded. 589 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,100 All parties are excused. 590 00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:13,900 [theme music plays] 591 00:24:13,967 --> 00:24:15,567 I'm just happy to have a door closed. 592 00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:17,500 That's all I really wanted out of today. 593 00:24:17,567 --> 00:24:21,200 And they closed the door I think the best way they could, honestly. 594 00:24:21,266 --> 00:24:23,133 You think that with her continuously lying 595 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,367 that they wouldn't find her credible? 596 00:24:24,433 --> 00:24:25,266 Oh, my gosh. 597 00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:27,633 Considering she's a stripper, you think she'd have enough money 598 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,233 to buy her own things or at least sell them to somebody else, 599 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:32,033 not somebody who's a little less fortunate. 600 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,734 All I wanted was for someone to be there for me, truly. 601 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,967 And it seemed like she was in it for a lot of different reasons. 602 00:24:38,033 --> 00:24:40,300 A little bit upset, but that's okay. It's life. 603 00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:41,300 I'm not mad. 604 00:24:41,367 --> 00:24:43,400 [announcer] Feel like suing someone? 605 00:24:43,467 --> 00:24:47,467 Let the majority rule in your favor on Tribunal Justice. 606 00:24:47,533 --> 00:24:49,800 Find us on social media. 607 00:24:49,867 --> 00:24:52,867 ["Ride of the Valkyries" continues]