1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,867 Bailey was attacked. 2 00:00:03,033 --> 00:00:05,300 My mom was banging on the door saying, 3 00:00:05,367 --> 00:00:07,100 "Wake up, wake up. She’s dying, she’s dying." 4 00:00:07,166 --> 00:00:08,367 And so I... 5 00:00:10,433 --> 00:00:12,133 [whispering] It’s okay. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,867 So I just had to, like, say goodbye and, like, yeah. 7 00:00:14,934 --> 00:00:15,934 That was mostly it. 8 00:00:17,233 --> 00:00:19,400 Is that how you remember it 9 00:00:19,467 --> 00:00:21,433 [announcer] Today on Tribunal Justice. 10 00:00:43,133 --> 00:00:46,066 This case was filed in Columbia Heights, Minnesota. 11 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:48,734 Your Honor, this is case # 1056 on the calendar. 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,700 in the matter of Eddins v. Brandt. 13 00:00:51,767 --> 00:00:54,800 Parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 14 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:56,133 -Thank you, Byrd. -[Byrd] Mm-hmm. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,367 Miss Eddins, 16 00:00:57,433 --> 00:00:59,266 Fourth of July weekend, 17 00:00:59,333 --> 00:01:02,066 you and your family were going to spend the holiday 18 00:01:02,133 --> 00:01:04,066 -at your lake house. -Yes. 19 00:01:04,132 --> 00:01:07,467 And you brought your little teacup Yorkie, Bailey. 20 00:01:07,533 --> 00:01:09,867 -[Becky] Yes. -This was Bailey. 21 00:01:09,934 --> 00:01:12,867 Very sadly upon your arrival, 22 00:01:12,934 --> 00:01:15,834 Bailey was attacked 23 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,400 by the defendant’s dog. 24 00:01:18,467 --> 00:01:20,233 The defendant is your next-door neighbor. 25 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:23,133 Prior to this incident, the two of you hadn’t met. 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,767 Uh, and Bailey didn’t make it. 27 00:01:27,834 --> 00:01:29,467 Bailey passed away. 28 00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:33,366 And you are now seeking $9,141 29 00:01:33,433 --> 00:01:35,300 from the defendant. 30 00:01:35,366 --> 00:01:37,734 And the elements of your claim are, 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,233 you want her to reimburse you for the cost of Bailey. 32 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:43,400 You want her to pay for pain and suffering, 33 00:01:43,467 --> 00:01:45,467 for cremation expenses, 34 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:47,467 and also for lost wages. 35 00:01:47,533 --> 00:01:49,767 -Yes. -[Tanya] Miss Brandt, 36 00:01:49,834 --> 00:01:51,233 I will say at the outset 37 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:53,133 that the evidence I’ve seen in this case 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,265 indicates that you felt horribly about this. 39 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:57,333 -Yeah. -You are not turning 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,934 a blind eye. 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,934 You, in fact, offered to compensate them 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,333 to the best of your ability. 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,900 But that was not enough. 44 00:02:04,967 --> 00:02:07,333 And I mention the offer of compensation 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,133 because I don’t want anyone to be under the impression 46 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,467 that the settlement offer that you made 47 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:16,466 was an admission by you that you were legally liable, 48 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:19,033 because your position is that you are not legally liable. 49 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:21,867 You point out that your dog, Bella, 50 00:02:21,934 --> 00:02:23,834 -Bella was leashed. -Yes. 51 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:24,966 [Tanya] And Bailey was not leashed. 52 00:02:25,033 --> 00:02:26,367 -Correct. -And you contend 53 00:02:26,433 --> 00:02:28,966 that these injuries, and that Bailey’s death 54 00:02:29,033 --> 00:02:30,466 essentially would have been prevented 55 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:33,333 had the plaintiff been more careful with the dog. 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,066 -Yes. -First off, 57 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:37,300 I think on behalf of all of us, 58 00:02:37,367 --> 00:02:38,800 we are so sorry. 59 00:02:38,867 --> 00:02:42,166 It’s hard to lose a pet member of your family. 60 00:02:42,233 --> 00:02:44,367 So tell us what happened. 61 00:02:44,433 --> 00:02:45,433 [Becky] We arrived at our... 62 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,300 It’s, um... 63 00:02:47,367 --> 00:02:49,700 Both of the cabins are owned by our parents. 64 00:02:49,767 --> 00:02:52,033 And when we arrived, we... 65 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:53,900 -She was sleeping in the car. -[Tanya] Your daughter? 66 00:02:53,966 --> 00:02:55,934 -[Becky] Yes. -[Tanya] What’s her name? 67 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,734 -Sauve. -[Tanya] Sauve was in the car, 68 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,200 -sleeping. -Yes. 69 00:02:59,266 --> 00:03:00,900 And we just grabbed the tent 70 00:03:00,967 --> 00:03:02,400 and we put four stakes in. 71 00:03:02,467 --> 00:03:06,200 Our teacup Yorkie saw her dog at the end of the road, 72 00:03:06,266 --> 00:03:07,233 started running. 73 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:08,967 I grabbed her. 74 00:03:09,033 --> 00:03:10,467 And the next thing I knew, her dog lunged 75 00:03:10,533 --> 00:03:12,900 and grabbed my dog out of my arms, 76 00:03:12,967 --> 00:03:16,400 and grabbed her to the floor and killed her. 77 00:03:16,466 --> 00:03:20,266 [Tanya] As I understood the facts from the complaint, 78 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:22,433 there was an initial attack, 79 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,233 and then I think, Miss Brandt, 80 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:26,233 you were able to separate the dogs? 81 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,367 Um, when Bailey had come running up to the driveway, 82 00:03:29,433 --> 00:03:31,934 I had Bella on a leash. 83 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 As soon as Bailey got close, 84 00:03:34,066 --> 00:03:37,133 Bella growled and I pulled her back. 85 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,333 And so then Becky was able to grab her dog. 86 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,800 And then, after she had a hold of Bailey, 87 00:03:42,867 --> 00:03:44,900 her and my mom were talking. 88 00:03:44,966 --> 00:03:46,700 You know, I’m thinking, okay, we’re neighbors. 89 00:03:46,767 --> 00:03:48,233 They’re gonna be next to each other. 90 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:49,700 Bella seems fine right now. 91 00:03:49,767 --> 00:03:51,367 I’m gonna let her get a little bit closer. 92 00:03:51,433 --> 00:03:52,834 And then I think you noticed that, 93 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:54,233 and then you bent over. 94 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,266 -Now talk just to us. -Okay. 95 00:03:56,333 --> 00:03:58,033 [Tanya] This is Bella. Who’s the baby? 96 00:03:58,100 --> 00:03:59,734 [Amanda] That’s my five-month-old son 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,400 who was on the walk with us. 98 00:04:01,467 --> 00:04:03,967 [Tanya] And in your answer, you suggest that the reason 99 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:06,200 why Bella may have acted aggressively 100 00:04:06,266 --> 00:04:08,433 is because your five-month-old baby was in the vicinity. 101 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:10,033 Yes, it’s a possibility. 102 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:12,767 So then after you get the dogs separated, 103 00:04:12,834 --> 00:04:15,767 you, ma’am, are holding Bailey. 104 00:04:15,834 --> 00:04:17,867 And do you lean over? 105 00:04:17,934 --> 00:04:20,233 She was trying to look at the dog barking, 106 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:22,166 and so I just kind of leaned over like I always do, 107 00:04:22,233 --> 00:04:23,934 because I don’t let our dogs touch, 108 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,332 breathe anything other dogs-- 109 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,266 I was kind of like leaning over, like, see the dog. 110 00:04:28,332 --> 00:04:29,934 You don’t want to be down there. It’s big. 111 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,200 And that’s when the fatal injuries took place. 112 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:34,933 Yeah. 113 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,233 I mean, it was a tragic situation, 114 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:38,266 and I felt really bad for them and the family. 115 00:04:38,332 --> 00:04:42,200 So I offered her $3,000. 116 00:04:42,266 --> 00:04:46,467 That was after she told me that Bailey passed, 1,500. 117 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:48,867 So I was trying to be nice. 118 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:52,433 And she came back with she wanted more. 119 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:54,400 [Tanya] And the reason you wanted more money 120 00:04:54,467 --> 00:04:59,100 was because of what happened to Sauve after this incident. 121 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:01,000 I’d like to talk to you. Why don’t you take the stand. 122 00:05:01,066 --> 00:05:02,333 How old are you, dear? 123 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,467 I’m 18. 124 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:07,900 You were sleeping when the initial encounter took place. 125 00:05:07,967 --> 00:05:09,100 -Yes? -Yes. 126 00:05:09,166 --> 00:05:11,066 What woke you up? 127 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:12,934 My mom was banging on the door, saying, 128 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,734 "Wake up, wake up. She’s dying, she’s dying." 129 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,934 So I got out the car, 130 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,967 and Bailey was on the driveway ground. 131 00:05:21,033 --> 00:05:23,332 And I saw her wound on her neck. 132 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,266 And then I realized that she, um, was dying. 133 00:05:27,332 --> 00:05:28,867 And so I, um... 134 00:05:30,467 --> 00:05:31,900 [whispering] It’s okay. 135 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,800 [tearfully] Um... 136 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:38,100 -Sandra. -[Sauve] I, um... 137 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,700 -Here you go, sweetheart. -Sorry. 138 00:05:43,767 --> 00:05:46,166 You okay? Do you want to talk about this? 139 00:05:46,233 --> 00:05:48,800 Because I can move on and we can come back. 140 00:05:48,867 --> 00:05:50,700 -I think I’m okay. -[Tanya] Okay. 141 00:05:50,767 --> 00:05:52,967 So I just had to, like, say goodbye 142 00:05:53,033 --> 00:05:55,033 and, like, yeah, that was mostly it. 143 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:57,233 [Tanya] What happened to you afterward? 144 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,367 Because a major component of your mother’s claim 145 00:05:59,433 --> 00:06:01,367 for pain and suffering 146 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:04,133 involves how this experience impacted you. 147 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,433 Yeah. 148 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:07,867 So tell us how you were impacted. 149 00:06:07,934 --> 00:06:10,133 So I was out with some friends 150 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,133 for the first time since she passed away, 151 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,000 and then we were just talking about Bailey, what happened, 152 00:06:18,066 --> 00:06:20,400 and I started having like a panic attack. 153 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:21,900 And I didn’t know what it was. 154 00:06:21,967 --> 00:06:23,734 I just, like, had, like-- 155 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Like, I couldn’t breathe. 156 00:06:25,266 --> 00:06:27,332 I was very shaky and I didn’t know what to do, 157 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,133 so I went home. 158 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,734 And then my parents took me to the hospital. 159 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,033 And the whole time, 160 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,967 they said that I was just having a panic attack 161 00:06:35,033 --> 00:06:37,367 because of my anxiety and what was happening. 162 00:06:37,433 --> 00:06:39,066 And then I had follow-ups. 163 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:42,166 And then now I’m on my fourth anxiety medication. 164 00:06:42,233 --> 00:06:44,100 I’m just gonna say this. 165 00:06:44,166 --> 00:06:46,900 I’ve never lost an animal under these circumstances, 166 00:06:46,967 --> 00:06:48,967 but I’ve lost an animal, and it’s tough. 167 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:50,867 -Our hearts are with you. -Thank you. 168 00:06:50,933 --> 00:06:52,400 You can sit down now, 169 00:06:52,467 --> 00:06:55,433 because now I have to get to the tougher part of your case. 170 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:57,734 Because beautiful little Bailey 171 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,933 got out of the car and was running around unleashed. 172 00:07:00,066 --> 00:07:03,200 -Mm-hmm. -What portion of responsibility 173 00:07:03,266 --> 00:07:04,700 do you think you bear 174 00:07:04,767 --> 00:07:07,000 for the things that happened subsequently? 175 00:07:07,066 --> 00:07:09,767 I mean, we were on our own property, 176 00:07:09,834 --> 00:07:11,867 and she ran to the end of our property. 177 00:07:11,934 --> 00:07:14,100 And then once I had her, 178 00:07:14,166 --> 00:07:16,033 she knew her dog was aggressive 179 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:18,300 and gave her another two feet, another two inches, 180 00:07:18,367 --> 00:07:20,332 whatever it was that she gave. 181 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,433 And that’s when she lunged at me and grabbed her 182 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,266 out of my arms. 183 00:07:24,332 --> 00:07:28,967 Um, well, Bailey did come running up to us barking, 184 00:07:29,033 --> 00:07:30,467 so I think that put Bella on end. 185 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:32,000 Where was the baby? 186 00:07:32,066 --> 00:07:35,834 So my mom and the baby were behind 187 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:38,332 when Bailey ran up. 188 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,800 And then when I pulled Bella back 189 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:44,266 once she showed a small sign of aggression, growling, 190 00:07:44,332 --> 00:07:47,933 pulled her back, and then it was Becky and my mom talking, 191 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,300 the stroller with my son in it, 192 00:07:51,367 --> 00:07:53,867 and me and Bella were in the middle of the road. 193 00:07:53,933 --> 00:07:57,033 After this happens, you make a settlement offer 194 00:07:57,100 --> 00:08:00,100 of $3,000 because you felt horribly. 195 00:08:00,166 --> 00:08:02,266 And I thought I saw, Miss Eddins, at some point, 196 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:05,266 that you were willing to take that $3,000 offer, 197 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:07,967 and then it seems like the communications fell off. 198 00:08:08,033 --> 00:08:10,266 Can you tell me a little bit about what happened? 199 00:08:10,333 --> 00:08:13,200 Um, I did reach out to her and told her, 200 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:17,200 "Do you want to solve this in court or outside of court?" 201 00:08:17,266 --> 00:08:19,200 And I said, "I’m waiting to hear from you." 202 00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:20,900 And that’s when she said, 203 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:23,066 "I was instructed not to have contact with you anymore." 204 00:08:23,133 --> 00:08:24,734 [Tanya] I saw that message. 205 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,133 And what you’ve also said 206 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,767 was that you just wanted to make sure 207 00:08:28,834 --> 00:08:32,834 that you weren’t giving money or making concessions 208 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:36,100 that could somehow turn around and be used against you. 209 00:08:36,165 --> 00:08:39,332 Were you still willing, at that point, to settle? 210 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Um, yes. So after she had said something about going to court, 211 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:47,100 I didn’t want her to take the $3,000 212 00:08:47,165 --> 00:08:50,900 and then file for a lawsuit after she took it. 213 00:08:50,967 --> 00:08:52,767 [Tanya] Understandable. 214 00:08:52,834 --> 00:08:55,266 I’m gonna pass the case to Judge DiMango. 215 00:08:55,333 --> 00:08:58,233 So sorry for your loss, and I hope you’re doing better. 216 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:01,400 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 217 00:09:01,467 --> 00:09:03,367 When did you get Bella? 218 00:09:03,433 --> 00:09:05,166 June 7th. 219 00:09:05,233 --> 00:09:08,033 So June 7th. And this was July 1. 220 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,767 Yup. I got her from the Humane Society. 221 00:09:10,834 --> 00:09:12,433 Had Bella ever shown aggression 222 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:13,967 since you got her in the beginning of June? 223 00:09:21,433 --> 00:09:25,266 [announcer] Becky Eddins is suing dog owner Amanda Brandt 224 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:29,100 for the cost of her Yorkie, as well as pain and suffering. 225 00:09:29,166 --> 00:09:33,367 Amanda claims Becky never had her dog on a leash. 226 00:09:33,433 --> 00:09:35,233 So when I’m reading this, 227 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:37,433 my first thought was, 228 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:41,934 when you bring a pet to an unfamiliar location, 229 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,400 you don’t know what’s lurking around. 230 00:09:43,467 --> 00:09:45,767 You don’t know, what we would call in the law, 231 00:09:45,834 --> 00:09:47,066 an "attractive nuisance." 232 00:09:47,133 --> 00:09:50,767 What’s going to draw the pet someplace else? 233 00:09:50,834 --> 00:09:53,133 And so before you exit a car, 234 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,834 what would be the most prudent thing to do, ma’am? 235 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:59,033 It’s not an unfamiliar place for Bailey. 236 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,734 We’re up there every major holiday, 237 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,200 and once a month for the whole weekend, 238 00:10:03,266 --> 00:10:04,400 sometimes a week. 239 00:10:04,467 --> 00:10:06,900 So ten times a year? 240 00:10:06,967 --> 00:10:08,166 -Probably, yes. -[Patricia] Okay. 241 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:10,200 So even if you want to say ten, 242 00:10:10,266 --> 00:10:12,233 I don’t know how good the dog’s memory is, 243 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:14,800 but he’s getting out of an area that he’s not seeing every day. 244 00:10:14,867 --> 00:10:15,934 So he’s gonna want to run around. 245 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,834 He’s gonna want to explore. 246 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:19,133 And you don’t know yourself 247 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,734 what lurked behind somewhere. 248 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,900 There could have been a raccoon. 249 00:10:21,967 --> 00:10:23,200 There could have been a bird. 250 00:10:23,266 --> 00:10:24,900 There could have been anything. 251 00:10:24,967 --> 00:10:26,300 So, what would be-- 252 00:10:26,367 --> 00:10:29,066 And you didn’t answer my question on purpose, I know, 253 00:10:29,133 --> 00:10:31,033 what would have been the most prudent thing to do 254 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:33,333 before you took Bailey out of the car? 255 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,934 Probably to have a leash on her. 256 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,367 [Patricia] I’m sorry, probably or for sure? 257 00:10:36,433 --> 00:10:38,734 -For sure. -And as I understand the facts, 258 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,233 Bailey shot down the driveway. 259 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:44,200 Correct? And you were up at the car doing what, ma’am? 260 00:10:44,266 --> 00:10:45,867 We were at the tent, 261 00:10:45,934 --> 00:10:47,266 putting the tent up for the weekend. 262 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:49,800 So immediately you did notice that he had taken off. 263 00:10:49,867 --> 00:10:51,700 Oh, yeah. I went right after her. 264 00:10:51,767 --> 00:10:54,400 You say she came to where you were. 265 00:10:54,467 --> 00:10:56,033 -You were in the street. -Mm-hmm. 266 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:57,367 The street in front of your driveway or house? 267 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:59,033 Where were you? 268 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:00,867 Um, we had been walking down, 269 00:11:00,934 --> 00:11:02,066 so we were closer to her driveway. 270 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:04,934 Okay, so when Bailey comes down, 271 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,967 technically is he still on his property? 272 00:11:07,033 --> 00:11:10,033 I believe she was still on her property. 273 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:11,233 I mean, they met. 274 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:13,033 Bella never went on her property, 275 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:15,100 so, I mean, they got close enough. 276 00:11:15,166 --> 00:11:17,433 So Bella was not on their property, 277 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,433 but the dogs were in the same vicinity. 278 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:21,133 You have a diagram to this effect? 279 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,767 Yes. 280 00:11:22,834 --> 00:11:24,333 [Patricia] So we have the driveway, 281 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,900 the defendant’s property, and the street in between. 282 00:11:27,967 --> 00:11:30,233 And Bailey shoots down. 283 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:32,934 You come down on the heels of Bailey, would you say? 284 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,467 -Yes. -And would you agree with that? 285 00:11:35,533 --> 00:11:36,967 -Yes. -[Patricia] When she got there? 286 00:11:37,033 --> 00:11:39,467 So now you grab Bailey in your arms. 287 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:41,900 -[Becky] Yup. -You are with your dog, 288 00:11:41,967 --> 00:11:44,200 on a leash as it should be. 289 00:11:44,266 --> 00:11:47,100 And you notice that Bella is kind of reacting, 290 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:50,400 so you kind of tug on the leash and pull her back. 291 00:11:50,467 --> 00:11:52,367 -Mm-hmm. -You’re now holding Bailey. 292 00:11:52,433 --> 00:11:54,100 Is Bailey barking? 293 00:11:54,165 --> 00:11:55,834 -What is Bailey doing? -She’s trying to look, 294 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,033 because I’m trying to face her this way, away from the dog. 295 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:59,433 [Patricia] When I read the papers I’m thinking, 296 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:03,166 What would possess you to want to lean down and have the two-- 297 00:12:03,233 --> 00:12:05,200 Because I see that on the street all the time, 298 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,300 when the two dogs are jumping at each other, 299 00:12:07,367 --> 00:12:09,033 the two parents want them to kind of like kiss. 300 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:10,867 And I’m like, Oh my God, 301 00:12:10,934 --> 00:12:12,900 that’s gonna be a case for tribunal. 302 00:12:12,967 --> 00:12:14,700 -[laughs] -You kind of say to yourself, 303 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,000 "Why would they do that?" 304 00:12:16,066 --> 00:12:18,700 But from what I gathered from what you were saying, 305 00:12:18,767 --> 00:12:22,433 you were not bringing Bailey down to greet Bella. 306 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:25,934 You were bringing Bailey down to show Bella the danger. 307 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,166 [Becky] I think I just went like this. 308 00:12:27,233 --> 00:12:28,800 I didn’t go, like, way down with her. 309 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,200 I just kind of went like... 310 00:12:30,266 --> 00:12:32,066 [Patricia] Well, whatever it is, 311 00:12:32,133 --> 00:12:34,133 the bottom line is, it was at that point 312 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,266 that we see the ultimate result we all know. 313 00:12:37,333 --> 00:12:38,433 Judge Levy? 314 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:40,967 When did you get Bella? 315 00:12:41,033 --> 00:12:45,367 Um, I had gotten her June 7th. 316 00:12:45,433 --> 00:12:48,834 And so June 7th. And this was July 1. 317 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:50,767 -Yup. -And where did you get her from? 318 00:12:50,834 --> 00:12:52,266 I got her from the Humane Society. 319 00:12:52,333 --> 00:12:55,367 Okay. Was there anything that you received from them 320 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:57,800 to suggest that she was aggressive 321 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:00,800 or had acted in an aggressive way at any time? 322 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,934 No. In fact, I have in my evidence, 323 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,333 there was a no-bite history that I highlighted 324 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,133 -from her papers. -[Adam] I saw that. 325 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,467 Had Bella ever shown aggression since you got her 326 00:13:09,533 --> 00:13:10,867 in the beginning of June? 327 00:13:10,934 --> 00:13:13,266 Um, no. 328 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:15,200 [Adam] When you were at your home, 329 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:17,100 -had you just gotten there? -[Becky] Yes. 330 00:13:17,166 --> 00:13:18,934 [Adam] Okay, so you were all in the car. 331 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,200 Did you have to take Bailey out of the car with you, 332 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:22,934 or did she jump down on her own? 333 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,734 I had to put her down. She’s too small. 334 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,967 [Adam] So I’m gonna say it. 335 00:13:27,033 --> 00:13:30,834 The choice you made was to take her out of the car, 336 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:32,467 put her on the ground without a leash, 337 00:13:32,533 --> 00:13:34,100 which gave her free roam. 338 00:13:34,165 --> 00:13:37,834 We have a mini shih tzu who weighs about five pounds. 339 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,934 We also have two big-boy golden retrievers 340 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,333 who each weigh a hundred pounds. 341 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,367 When we take the little one outside to go pee or poop, 342 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:46,934 we are right on her. 343 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,233 Because there’s about anything flying in the sky, 344 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:53,165 a fox, a raccoon that’ll come up and snag her, 345 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:54,367 and we wouldn’t have a chance. 346 00:13:54,433 --> 00:13:56,133 But you weren’t worried about that, 347 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,100 because you put her on the ground. 348 00:13:58,165 --> 00:13:59,867 And she followed us to put the tent down. 349 00:13:59,934 --> 00:14:01,333 -Okay. -As soon as she took off, 350 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,700 I ran too. 351 00:14:02,767 --> 00:14:04,767 Can we put that back up, please? 352 00:14:04,834 --> 00:14:07,133 So your plaintiff’s driveway there where the white car is? 353 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,700 -Correct? -[Becky] Yes. 354 00:14:08,767 --> 00:14:10,333 [Adam] And so she’s running down there. 355 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,333 The defendant, where she is is marked on that diagram. 356 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,800 -Right? -Yes. 357 00:14:14,867 --> 00:14:16,333 And at that point, 358 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,033 you grabbed Bailey, 359 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:20,000 but you didn’t walk away. 360 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:21,400 -Why not? -I backed up. 361 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:23,734 I took probably one or two steps backwards. 362 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,734 So how far away were you and Bailey 363 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,333 from the defendant and Bella 364 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,133 when you claimed to have backed up? 365 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,700 [Becky] Probably closer than what we are. 366 00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:35,867 -That’s maybe six feet? -Yeah. 367 00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:40,165 And is it your testimony that Bella was able to lunge 368 00:14:40,233 --> 00:14:42,934 and grab Bailey out of your arms? 369 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,266 -Correct. -[Adam] Six feet? 370 00:14:44,333 --> 00:14:46,367 -Yeah. -[Adam] Is it your testimony 371 00:14:46,433 --> 00:14:50,700 that you never bent down so the dogs could meet each other? 372 00:14:50,767 --> 00:14:53,000 -Correct. -[Adam] And would you agree 373 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:56,033 that your memory on July 1 was better than it is today, 374 00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:58,333 some several months later? 375 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,000 I would say it stays the same. I don’t think it gets worse. 376 00:15:02,066 --> 00:15:04,400 -It feels like yesterday. -So you don’t think-- 377 00:15:04,467 --> 00:15:07,333 That’s okay, because you know where I’m going with this. 378 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,133 Because you gave a statement to the police 379 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,967 on the day that this incident happened, didn’t you? 380 00:15:12,033 --> 00:15:13,400 I believe so. 381 00:15:13,467 --> 00:15:15,033 -You called the police. -Yes. 382 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:17,133 So there is a police report, is there not? 383 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 -[Becky] Mm-hmm. -And you called the police 384 00:15:19,266 --> 00:15:21,467 -right after this incident. -Yes. 385 00:15:21,533 --> 00:15:23,367 [Adam] What you said during the phone call, ma’am, 386 00:15:23,433 --> 00:15:26,900 was that your neighbor bent over to allow the two dogs 387 00:15:26,967 --> 00:15:28,133 to greet each other. 388 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,300 -Do you recall that? -Yes. 389 00:15:30,367 --> 00:15:33,266 [Adam] And you let some slack on the leash 390 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:34,734 when her dog got close. 391 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,767 And that’s when your dog lunged, unfortunately, 392 00:15:38,834 --> 00:15:39,967 biting Bailey, is that right? 393 00:15:40,033 --> 00:15:41,967 -Yes. -And when you spoke 394 00:15:42,033 --> 00:15:44,233 to the police 35 minutes later, 395 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:48,033 you were specifically asked if she bent over-- 396 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:50,333 You bent over to allow the two dogs to meet. 397 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,433 You recall the police asking you that? 398 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:54,200 -No, I do not. -Do you have any reason 399 00:15:54,266 --> 00:15:55,767 to believe, as you stand here today, 400 00:15:55,834 --> 00:15:57,734 that they were lying in their police report? 401 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,300 No. I never said that. 402 00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:01,000 I think that’s what she said. I never said that. 403 00:16:01,066 --> 00:16:03,967 [Adam] Okay. And would you agree 404 00:16:04,033 --> 00:16:06,100 that your memory of what transpired 405 00:16:06,166 --> 00:16:07,934 between the two dogs, 406 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,800 between you and the defendant, 407 00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:13,233 was fresher in your mind then than it is now, 408 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:14,867 some six months later? 409 00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:16,133 Yes. 410 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,166 [Adam] You recall in the police report 411 00:16:18,233 --> 00:16:21,033 them indicating that your dog could have been cited 412 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:23,467 for dog at large, dog without a leash. 413 00:16:23,533 --> 00:16:25,367 Oh. Did not know that. 414 00:16:25,433 --> 00:16:28,700 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 415 00:16:28,767 --> 00:16:32,734 Rejecting that $3,000 offer could have been very wrong, 416 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,767 because your dog was not attacked on your property. 417 00:16:35,834 --> 00:16:38,100 Your dog was attacked in the street. 418 00:16:38,165 --> 00:16:39,834 You’re shaking your head? 419 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:41,834 That would be in the police report, and it’s not. 420 00:16:49,533 --> 00:16:51,767 [Adam] Having had dogs my entire life, 421 00:16:51,834 --> 00:16:53,300 it’d be devastating if I saw what happened to my dog 422 00:16:53,367 --> 00:16:54,834 happen to your dog. 423 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:55,967 I’d be absolutely devastated. 424 00:16:56,033 --> 00:16:58,266 Can we agree that no amount of money 425 00:16:58,333 --> 00:17:00,367 would have made you and your family feel whole 426 00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:01,834 from what happened? 427 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:03,100 -Correct. -[Adam] No amount. 428 00:17:03,166 --> 00:17:04,934 -No amount. -[Adam] But can we also agree 429 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,200 that but for you not having her on a leash 430 00:17:07,266 --> 00:17:10,133 and allowing her to run down to the street, 431 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,934 and then you having her close, 432 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,700 and when the police asked you whether or not you bent over, 433 00:17:16,767 --> 00:17:17,934 you didn’t say no. 434 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,800 You said you could not remember. 435 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:21,367 That’s what you said. 436 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:24,032 But a moment ago you said no, you didn’t do that. 437 00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:27,300 But the police told you that they could have charged you 438 00:17:27,367 --> 00:17:28,734 with dog at large, 439 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,700 but they didn’t because they felt badly. 440 00:17:30,767 --> 00:17:32,400 It seems to me from reviewing all of the evidence, 441 00:17:32,467 --> 00:17:33,967 and I read it very carefully, 442 00:17:34,033 --> 00:17:36,900 that your position in this case, 443 00:17:36,967 --> 00:17:40,934 rejecting that $3,000 offer could have been very wrong, 444 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,834 because your dog was not attacked on your property. 445 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:46,200 Your dog was attacked in the street. 446 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,367 You’re shaking your head? 447 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:48,900 That would be in the police report, 448 00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:50,200 and it’s not in the police report. 449 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:52,033 Um, it was not-- 450 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:54,333 I don’t believe it was on the street, 451 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,934 because my knees were all scratched up-- 452 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,333 [Adam] So let me ask you a question. 453 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,467 What prevented you, if anything, from telling the police 454 00:17:59,533 --> 00:18:01,133 and them memorializing in the police report, 455 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,734 that this attack occurred on your property 456 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,400 as opposed to 9 1/2 Avenue? 457 00:18:04,467 --> 00:18:06,433 Because that’s what they wrote in their police report. 458 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,166 I think that’s what they told her, 459 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:09,834 -because they never came out. -No. You spoke to-- 460 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:11,467 You spoke to them at 8:35 p.m. 461 00:18:11,533 --> 00:18:13,100 You spoke to them on the phone. 462 00:18:13,166 --> 00:18:16,200 They specifically asked you, and you didn’t say no, 463 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:17,734 that her dog was on your property. 464 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,200 What you said was 465 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:21,834 you could not remember. 466 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,300 I think that it might have been a little shortsighted 467 00:18:24,367 --> 00:18:27,333 to reject a good faith offer of $3,000 468 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,200 under the circumstances 469 00:18:29,266 --> 00:18:31,800 as it was memorialized in this police report. 470 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:33,700 And in your financial situation, 471 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:35,000 3,000 would have been a stretch. 472 00:18:35,066 --> 00:18:37,367 -Mm-hmm. -What do you do for a living? 473 00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:39,100 -I am a waitress. -[Adam] Waitress. 474 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:42,266 How long do you have to work to make $3,000? 475 00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:43,900 A long time. 476 00:18:43,967 --> 00:18:45,400 [Adam] I got nothing else. 477 00:18:45,467 --> 00:18:47,033 We’re gonna retire to deliberate. 478 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,166 Thank you all. 479 00:18:48,233 --> 00:18:49,467 [Byrd] Court now stands in recess. 480 00:18:49,533 --> 00:18:50,533 Parties are excused. 481 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,266 There is really no good outcome here, 482 00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:58,467 because such a horrible thing happened. 483 00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:01,300 I think they both bear some responsibility. 484 00:19:01,367 --> 00:19:04,433 I think the plaintiff bears the lion’s share of it, 485 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:07,934 because this initial incident would not have happened 486 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,433 if Bailey had been on a leash. 487 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,767 My big dog doesn’t get out of the car 488 00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:14,200 until I have the leash on, 489 00:19:14,266 --> 00:19:16,433 because I don’t know who or what he’s gonna run into. 490 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,700 So the plaintiff bears the lion’s share. 491 00:19:19,767 --> 00:19:22,266 However, simply having your dog on a leash 492 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:25,300 doesn’t mean you can give the leash all the slack you like. 493 00:19:25,367 --> 00:19:29,233 You have an obligation to keep the dog under control. 494 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:31,266 I would award the plaintiff a thousand dollars. 495 00:19:31,333 --> 00:19:34,066 I think that the defendant should have done a better job 496 00:19:34,133 --> 00:19:36,700 maintaining Bella. 497 00:19:36,767 --> 00:19:38,100 Open for discussion. 498 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:41,133 Well, I think that the real crucial part for me is, 499 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,100 when she had Bailey in her arms, 500 00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:45,233 there’s no way that two dog lovers 501 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:47,867 don’t think that their beautiful dogs 502 00:19:47,934 --> 00:19:49,066 should be happy greeting other dogs 503 00:19:49,133 --> 00:19:51,100 and having a play pal. 504 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:53,900 Especially that she never saw her dog there before, she said. 505 00:19:53,967 --> 00:19:56,867 So I really think that she bent down 506 00:19:56,934 --> 00:19:58,934 not to teach Bailey, "Look, there’s a danger," 507 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,200 but to say everything was calm-- 508 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:03,467 Because the dog wasn’t a danger at the time she bent down. 509 00:20:03,533 --> 00:20:05,800 So I really think that she was having the dog greet. 510 00:20:05,867 --> 00:20:07,100 And I think that the defendant 511 00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:09,166 was very generous with the 3,000. 512 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:10,834 I think she rejected it. 513 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:13,233 And I am not really comfortable 514 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:15,333 giving the plaintiff any money at this time. 515 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,333 You know, that police report was super important. 516 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,433 It was provided to us by the defendant 517 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:22,133 as part of her package. 518 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,100 And this is the defendant who made the phone call first, 519 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:27,000 at 7:55 p.m. 520 00:20:27,066 --> 00:20:29,066 "Neighbor bent over..." 521 00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:30,800 That is the plaintiff. 522 00:20:30,867 --> 00:20:33,266 "...bent over to allow the two dogs to greet each other. 523 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:37,000 Amanda let some slack out on the leash." 524 00:20:37,066 --> 00:20:39,834 And when the dogs got close, 525 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,367 that’s when the defendant’s dog grabbed the plaintiff’s dog. 526 00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:44,033 Thirty-five minutes later, 527 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:46,100 the police spoke with the plaintiff. 528 00:20:46,166 --> 00:20:48,200 The plaintiff was asked if she bent over 529 00:20:48,266 --> 00:20:50,400 to allow the two dogs to meet. 530 00:20:50,467 --> 00:20:51,867 She says, yes. 531 00:20:51,934 --> 00:20:55,033 And she said she could not remember. 532 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:56,967 I wasn’t gonna place the blame 533 00:20:57,033 --> 00:20:58,834 squarely on the plaintiff’s shoulders out here now 534 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,367 with her daughter sitting right there. 535 00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:02,400 It wasn’t gonna do any good or make much of a difference. 536 00:21:02,467 --> 00:21:05,000 Nobody has a problem with the defendant 537 00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:06,467 giving Bella more slack on the leash? 538 00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:08,734 [Patricia] But don’t forget, she’s up in her arms. 539 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,200 And I want to say about this paragraph here, 540 00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:11,800 what I was trying to say earlier, 541 00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:13,700 is that if you have a dog in your arms, 542 00:21:13,767 --> 00:21:15,233 you know right away 543 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,433 whether you’re bending to greet or you’re bending to show fear. 544 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:21,033 The mere fact that she answered the cop, "I don’t remember," 545 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:23,300 she knew darn well what she was doing. 546 00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:24,900 I’m onboard with all of this. 547 00:21:24,967 --> 00:21:28,100 My question is, do either of you think 548 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:31,900 that the defendant bears any culpability? 549 00:21:31,967 --> 00:21:34,000 [Patricia] I don’t. I don’t think so, Tanya. 550 00:21:34,066 --> 00:21:36,800 I’m gonna stick with she should get a thousand dollars, 551 00:21:36,867 --> 00:21:38,834 but she should have taken that $3,000, 552 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,166 because I do think she bears the lion’s share of the guilt. 553 00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:42,800 I’m gonna stick with a grand. 554 00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:44,900 I’m going to say dismiss. 555 00:21:44,967 --> 00:21:47,233 I would tend to agree with Pat. 556 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,800 So I’ll dissent. 557 00:21:48,867 --> 00:21:49,800 -Okay. Very good. -Very good. 558 00:21:52,967 --> 00:21:54,867 Court is back in session. 559 00:21:54,934 --> 00:21:56,300 Parties are reminded you’re still under oath. 560 00:21:56,367 --> 00:21:57,900 Thank you, Byrd. 561 00:21:57,967 --> 00:21:59,400 We have deliberated, 562 00:21:59,467 --> 00:22:03,066 and our verdict in this case is not unanimous. 563 00:22:03,133 --> 00:22:07,367 We are absolutely sad about what happened to your dog, 564 00:22:07,433 --> 00:22:09,700 and we also believe that no amount of money 565 00:22:09,767 --> 00:22:12,166 could compensate you for that loss. 566 00:22:12,233 --> 00:22:14,233 But you are in this court seeking money, 567 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,433 and in order to determine what that award should be, 568 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,166 we have to make legal decisions about liability. 569 00:22:21,233 --> 00:22:23,734 I would have awarded you a thousand dollars, 570 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,100 because I think that you bore the lion’s share 571 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:28,333 of responsibility for what happened. 572 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,300 But I think that you, Miss Brandt, 573 00:22:31,367 --> 00:22:35,033 that because you gave Bella some slack on the leash, 574 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,233 that you should bear some responsibility 575 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:39,467 for what happened to Bailey. 576 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:41,166 So I would have ordered you 577 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:42,700 to pay the plaintiff a thousand dollars. 578 00:22:42,767 --> 00:22:45,400 My colleagues do not agree, Miss Eddins. 579 00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:48,266 They believe that you bear all of the responsibility 580 00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:49,467 for what happened to Bailey, 581 00:22:49,533 --> 00:22:51,300 because none of this would have happened 582 00:22:51,367 --> 00:22:53,300 if she’d been on a leash. 583 00:22:53,367 --> 00:22:57,066 So we do continue to send you our condolences, 584 00:22:57,133 --> 00:22:59,133 but this court must dismiss your case. 585 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,467 Good luck to everyone. 586 00:23:01,533 --> 00:23:04,100 [Byrd] This case is now concluded. 587 00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,834 Parties are excused. You may step out. 588 00:23:08,367 --> 00:23:10,433 I think they made a great decision. 589 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,400 It still hurts today like it was yesterday. 590 00:23:12,467 --> 00:23:13,934 That’s all we do, is cry. 591 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,433 I can’t even be around any other bigger dogs now. 592 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,233 The stress of, you know, 593 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:21,066 her making me feel bad for everything, 594 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,033 bearing the responsibility. 595 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,133 Um, so that wasn’t very nice. 596 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,800 Uh, very disappointed, 597 00:23:26,867 --> 00:23:29,800 because we do have to see her and her family at the cabin. 598 00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:31,867 Always keep a dog on a leash, 599 00:23:31,934 --> 00:23:35,867 especially at the cabin. 600 00:23:35,934 --> 00:23:37,467 Which now, I don’t know if we’ll ever go back, 601 00:23:37,533 --> 00:23:38,934 which we haven’t already. 602 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,133 [announcer] Are you being sued by someone? 603 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,233 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 604 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,233 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice.