1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,633 These two people almost died. 2 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:04,400 [narrator] Today, on Tribunal Justice... 3 00:00:04,467 --> 00:00:06,266 You also said you had a driver's license, right? 4 00:00:06,333 --> 00:00:07,333 Yes. 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,033 But you just weren't carrying it? 6 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:10,333 Yes, Your Honor. 7 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,233 Everyone who's here who has a driver's license: Do you have it with you? 8 00:00:15,967 --> 00:00:17,333 Everybody. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,600 [narrator]This case was filed in Bakersfield, California. 10 00:00:43,667 --> 00:00:47,000 Your Honor, this is case #1138 on the calendar in the matter 11 00:00:47,066 --> 00:00:49,967 of Furnari vs. Madden-Calvin. 12 00:00:50,033 --> 00:00:52,533 Parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,967 Thank you, Byrd. Miss Furnari, you are here today 14 00:00:56,033 --> 00:01:00,734 because of a dramatically horrible car accident 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,300 in which you claim you were driving your son to college. 16 00:01:03,367 --> 00:01:05,467 Car was at a standstill. 17 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:07,800 The Defendant came barreling up behind you, 18 00:01:07,867 --> 00:01:09,367 70 miles per hour, 19 00:01:09,433 --> 00:01:12,667 and plowed into your car. After the collision, 20 00:01:12,734 --> 00:01:15,200 you suffered a concussion, your ribs were broken, 21 00:01:15,266 --> 00:01:18,300 you had a fractured wrist, you were bleeding all over the place. 22 00:01:18,367 --> 00:01:20,600 There was extensive property loss and damage 23 00:01:20,667 --> 00:01:22,467 because all of your son's items 24 00:01:22,533 --> 00:01:26,100 that you were transporting for his first year in college were in the car. 25 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:29,133 And you're now suing her for $10,000. Can we see the pictures 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,066 from the accident? I'd like to see that on the monitor now. 27 00:01:32,133 --> 00:01:33,834 Wow. Is that your car? 28 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:35,600 [Christine] That is the Defendant's car. 29 00:01:35,667 --> 00:01:36,734 [Tanya] Let's look at P5. 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,200 [Christine] That is my car. 31 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:39,333 [Tanya] Wow. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,633 [Christine] That's my car how it landed. That's how we had to get out. 33 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:48,366 I will say this: This is one of the worst car accidents I've seen, 34 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:50,100 since I've been doing this job. 35 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:52,800 You both are very lucky still to be here. 36 00:01:52,866 --> 00:01:55,767 Miss Madden-Calvin, your defense is quite simple. 37 00:01:55,834 --> 00:01:59,500 You were sideswiped, and because of the collision and the impact 38 00:01:59,567 --> 00:02:03,867 with the other car, you were forced to collide into the Plaintiff's car. 39 00:02:03,934 --> 00:02:07,533 And you contend that she's suing the wrong person and that you owe her nothing. 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,600 Yes. 41 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:13,767 Wow, my goodness. Uh, the pictures sort of tell the story. 42 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:17,000 But why don't you tell the story. Were you at a complete stop? 43 00:02:17,066 --> 00:02:21,066 Yes. It was maybe, like traffic was going maybe one mile, two miles. 44 00:02:21,133 --> 00:02:23,667 It's just a two-lane highway going one or two miles. 45 00:02:23,734 --> 00:02:26,934 Um, she hit us from behind, it turned us on our right side, 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,900 the passenger, which was my side. Then flipped us onto our roof, 47 00:02:29,966 --> 00:02:32,966 as you can see. Now, the police report, the way I understand it, 48 00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,066 she had so much momentum, when we went to the right, 49 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:39,133 she went to the left and hit a second car. I have pictures of the back of her car 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,300 and the side of her car. There was no side... 51 00:02:41,367 --> 00:02:44,367 And that's not what the police report says. And then, we of course, 52 00:02:44,433 --> 00:02:45,767 had to figure out how to get out. 53 00:02:45,834 --> 00:02:47,567 Stuff was everywhere, all over the freeway. 54 00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:49,867 I'd like to draw the scene a little bit 55 00:02:49,934 --> 00:02:52,233 and then, just put this roadway into context. 56 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:55,533 And tell me if I'm jumping to conclusions. I've driven this stretch. 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:01,333 It's the sort of freeway where you can be driving, driving, driving... stop. 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,266 I'm trying to explain how it is one party could be at a full stop, you, 59 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:10,600 and another party, according to the way you describe the accident, 60 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:14,333 could be driving at 70 miles per hour and then plowing into you. 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,100 I think there was a break in traffic. 62 00:03:16,166 --> 00:03:17,166 Who was driving? 63 00:03:17,233 --> 00:03:19,367 -My ex-husband. -[Tanya] You were the passenger. 64 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:21,834 -I was in the passenger... -[Tanya] And you were in the car. 65 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:24,367 Why don't you take the stand. 66 00:03:25,934 --> 00:03:29,834 Your Honor, there was a various... It was two lanes merging into one. 67 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,367 There was construction signs everywhere saying of the merge. 68 00:03:33,433 --> 00:03:35,000 That does happen on the highway, I do agree, 69 00:03:35,066 --> 00:03:38,333 it will come down, slow to nothing, but it wasn't just a dead stop. 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,700 The reason the stop was two lanes were merging into one 71 00:03:40,767 --> 00:03:42,867 because of construction. And there were... 72 00:03:42,934 --> 00:03:47,767 There's those bright signs that say merging, slow down, all those, so... 73 00:03:47,834 --> 00:03:50,400 Were you starting as a freshman? 74 00:03:50,466 --> 00:03:53,333 I'm going into my sophomore year. I stayed at the dorms last year, 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,500 so this will be my first year living off-campus. 76 00:03:55,567 --> 00:03:59,433 So, it was not your first year in college, as I said in my open. 77 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,000 But it was your first year in your new home. 78 00:04:02,066 --> 00:04:03,066 Yes. 79 00:04:03,133 --> 00:04:05,367 So, you were moving from the dorm to a new home. You had a bunch of stuff. 80 00:04:05,433 --> 00:04:06,433 Yes. 81 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:11,033 The total amount of your damaged property claim is $3,800. 82 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,734 Miss Madden-Calvin, tell me how you were sideswiped. 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,367 Okay, so, I was leaving Los Angeles, 84 00:04:16,433 --> 00:04:18,767 and I was coming back into Bakersfield, California. 85 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:22,867 I was traveling northbound on the 99, and I was in the fast lane, 86 00:04:22,934 --> 00:04:26,100 so, I was all the way to the far left. So, I was traveling in the fast lane. 87 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:30,667 And I was trying to switch lanes. And as I attempted to go and switch lanes, 88 00:04:30,734 --> 00:04:33,433 a car came out of nowhere, sideswiped my vehicle, 89 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:37,800 which then took me into the back of Miss Furnari's vehicle. 90 00:04:37,867 --> 00:04:39,867 Can we roll the animation on this? 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,300 So, explain to me where this other car allegedly was 92 00:04:49,367 --> 00:04:52,633 in relation to the three vehicles we see on the screen. 93 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:57,467 So, I was trying to go towards the right to go into that lane. 94 00:04:57,533 --> 00:05:02,300 And as I was attempting to switch lanes, the car was continuing to pass me, 95 00:05:02,367 --> 00:05:06,333 and that's when he sideswiped, he or she, sideswiped my vehicle. 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,934 I will point out to you at the outset that cars don't come out of nowhere. 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Cars show up, and people who are driving don't see them. 98 00:05:13,066 --> 00:05:15,000 What does your witness have to add to this? 99 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:17,633 -Were you in the car, sir? -Oh, no, I was not in the car. 100 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:19,433 [Tanya] Why are you here? What did you witness? 101 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:22,967 I showed up to the scene after with her parents and with her sister. 102 00:05:23,033 --> 00:05:25,233 You can take the stand. How do you know the Defendant? 103 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:26,233 Oh, this is my girlfriend. 104 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:28,133 [Tanya] So you showed up. What'd you see? 105 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,600 I showed up. I saw alcohol spread all over the freeway 106 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:34,400 due to the Plaintiff's vehicle. 107 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:36,800 I know that whenever she got out of the car, 108 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:40,367 she made sure to help everybody out and made sure everybody was okay. 109 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:44,400 Then she came to her family and everybody was making sure she was okay. 110 00:05:44,467 --> 00:05:47,233 Um... yeah. 111 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:49,500 And that's all you saw. -[Logan] That's really all I saw. 112 00:05:49,567 --> 00:05:51,133 Thank you. You're a good boyfriend, sit down. 113 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,266 Thank you so much. 114 00:05:52,332 --> 00:05:56,266 The reference to alcohol bottles, and I note, Miss Madden-Calvin, 115 00:05:56,332 --> 00:06:00,433 in your answer you say that you saw them throwing alcohol bottles around. 116 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:03,433 Do you want to explain that or address that in some way? 117 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:07,867 Yes. We were going to be staying in Chico. I actually had 118 00:06:07,934 --> 00:06:11,100 a whole bunch of prepared food. And I actually had some alcohol. 119 00:06:11,166 --> 00:06:13,066 We weren't drinking it, it was closed bottles. 120 00:06:13,133 --> 00:06:16,767 And I tell you, when I read that, I said that I think that there's 121 00:06:16,834 --> 00:06:19,300 some attempt here to try to make it sound like 122 00:06:19,367 --> 00:06:21,300 they were drinking and partying on the road. 123 00:06:21,367 --> 00:06:24,033 And I know what you were doing when you put that in your answer. 124 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:27,266 I saw them throwing alcohol bottles all over the place. 125 00:06:27,332 --> 00:06:31,266 That was a little bit of a mud-throwing distraction. 126 00:06:31,332 --> 00:06:33,400 -Did you have insurance at the time? -Nope. 127 00:06:33,467 --> 00:06:35,533 -[Tanya] Were you a licensed driver? -Yes, ma'am. 128 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,500 -Did you own this car? -Yes, ma'am. 129 00:06:37,567 --> 00:06:40,000 -[Tanya] So, didn't have insurance. -No. 130 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:42,133 And instead of focusing on your own crime, 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,266 you try to suggest they were driving drunk. 132 00:06:44,332 --> 00:06:45,967 [KajaKay] No, Your Honor, I wasn't suggesting. 133 00:06:46,033 --> 00:06:48,000 I put that in the report because that's what I saw. 134 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:52,500 As I seen, there was a whole bunch of alcohol surrounding my car, their car... 135 00:06:52,567 --> 00:06:55,567 Fair enough. Was there a sobriety test issued on the scene? 136 00:06:55,633 --> 00:06:57,567 -Yeah. I did. -Did you take one? You pass? 137 00:06:57,633 --> 00:06:59,567 -[Tanya] Did you take one? -No, I would have loved to. 138 00:06:59,633 --> 00:07:00,567 They didn't offer. 139 00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:02,767 -There's no claim you were driving drunk. -No. 140 00:07:02,834 --> 00:07:04,667 I want to go back to what you claim happened. 141 00:07:04,734 --> 00:07:07,233 -Okay. -[Tanya] You say a car collided into you. 142 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:09,533 -The police came, did they not? -Yes. 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,433 And did you tell the police officers that you were sideswiped? 144 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,500 Yes, I did. 145 00:07:13,567 --> 00:07:16,000 [Tanya] Because the police report says the opposite of that. 146 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:21,332 The police report indicates that the other car that you told them about 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,500 at the time, never made contact with you. 148 00:07:23,567 --> 00:07:25,934 Do you want me to read you that portion of the report? 149 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,467 Uh, you can, thank you. 150 00:07:27,533 --> 00:07:29,934 [Tanya] I sure will. Party number one 151 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,166 veered to the left to get away from the vehicle. 152 00:07:33,233 --> 00:07:38,800 The vehicle that was passing her never struck her vehicle. 153 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:42,332 So, at the time, when you were interviewed by the police officers, 154 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 there was a report that the car never struck your vehicle. 155 00:07:45,266 --> 00:07:48,367 Now, much later after the fact, you're claiming that this car 156 00:07:48,433 --> 00:07:52,233 not only struck your vehicle, but that it struck you with such force 157 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:55,933 that you caused all of that damage. You know what the police report says 158 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,400 caused all that damage? You, and your unsafe driving. 159 00:07:59,467 --> 00:08:03,467 And driving at 70 miles per hour. And you may not have been cited, 160 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:06,233 but that's very clearly in the report. Were you hurt? 161 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:07,800 -Yes, ma'am. -Did you go to the hospital? 162 00:08:07,867 --> 00:08:09,367 -Yes. -It may very well be that... 163 00:08:09,433 --> 00:08:11,100 that's why you weren't cited. 164 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:14,800 Maybe the police officer said, these two people almost died, 165 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:18,266 she caused it. Let's let them go to the hospital and work it out. 166 00:08:18,332 --> 00:08:20,500 You really think that your driving unlicensed... 167 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:23,266 Put P2 back up again, please, that photograph. 168 00:08:23,332 --> 00:08:26,633 So, you really think that being an uninsured driver, 169 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,033 having given a statement to the police 170 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,500 that completely contradicts your testimony 171 00:08:31,567 --> 00:08:34,200 in court today, you can now show up 172 00:08:34,265 --> 00:08:37,933 and deny all responsibility for this car accident? 173 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,967 I appreciate what your partner says. You're a nice person, 174 00:08:41,033 --> 00:08:44,767 you cared about people. You were driving uninsured, so you didn't care enough. 175 00:08:44,834 --> 00:08:46,333 Why were you driving? 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,433 Your Honor, that's a brand-new car that I got for myself. 177 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:53,133 And I was trying to transfer over my old insurance to my new vehicle. 178 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,165 Which, that's my fault on my behalf. 179 00:08:55,233 --> 00:08:56,433 -Very much your fault. -So... 180 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:00,633 Not only your fault, but a crime. Before I pass the case, 181 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:04,000 your insurance company compensated you how much money? 182 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:06,467 I'm gonna look, it's right here. I think it's sixty... 183 00:09:06,533 --> 00:09:08,734 [Tanya] They gave you $6,800 or so. 184 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,934 Right. They shorted me... 185 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,500 And you're seeking $10,000 because they shorted you a few thousand dollars 186 00:09:14,567 --> 00:09:16,633 because the car was no longer in your possession? 187 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:21,066 Right, the salvage yard kept it for the storage fees that weren't to be paid. 188 00:09:21,133 --> 00:09:22,767 [Tanya] Which you're also suing her for. 189 00:09:22,834 --> 00:09:25,700 They thought that because it was a new car it would be insured 190 00:09:25,767 --> 00:09:27,834 and had me sign something that said you're gonna be fine. 191 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:30,066 Then, I started getting bills and they started threatening me 192 00:09:30,133 --> 00:09:31,467 that I owe all this money. 193 00:09:31,533 --> 00:09:34,934 Now, the insurance company gave you an opportunity 194 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,200 to petition them for more money. 195 00:09:37,266 --> 00:09:38,934 They said, You can notify us 196 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,834 within 35 days if you can't find a new car for this amount of money. 197 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:44,165 Did you ever reach out to them? 198 00:09:44,233 --> 00:09:46,967 No. With all the stuff... I had quite a bit of injuries, 199 00:09:47,033 --> 00:09:50,467 and a concussion. I was doing good just to make it through some of the days... 200 00:09:50,533 --> 00:09:54,767 Yeah, no kidding. Glad you both are alive. And you too. Judge DiMango? 201 00:09:54,834 --> 00:09:57,165 You know, Miss Madden-Calvin, 202 00:09:57,233 --> 00:10:00,066 let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 203 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:03,100 I'm troubled by that whole statement about the bottles 204 00:10:03,166 --> 00:10:06,667 because that bothered me as well, and I knew exactly what you were doing. 205 00:10:06,734 --> 00:10:08,233 And it doesn't even make any sense. 206 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:11,300 Because at what point were they throwing these bottles out of the car? 207 00:10:11,367 --> 00:10:14,700 Your Honor, they started throwing them out as soon as I helped her, 208 00:10:14,767 --> 00:10:16,700 her son, and her ex-husband get out of that car. 209 00:10:16,767 --> 00:10:19,367 So, they were out of the car, and then they went in the car... 210 00:10:19,433 --> 00:10:21,166 Yeah, they were getting all their belongings. 211 00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:23,700 And the police report, by the way, for Miss Uninsured, 212 00:10:23,767 --> 00:10:28,333 says everyone was not drinking. So, the report itself is clear 213 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,934 that there was no drinking. 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,900 But what troubles me about your story is... 215 00:10:32,967 --> 00:10:35,867 Could we put the reenactment up again? 216 00:10:36,967 --> 00:10:40,467 Okay. You're in the fast lane, clearly going fast. 217 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:43,633 I think... In my view, what I think happened is you saw, 218 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:45,300 at some point, that they were stopped. 219 00:10:45,367 --> 00:10:47,900 But you know when you can't stop in time not to hit. 220 00:10:47,967 --> 00:10:50,266 That's why you didn't even look over 221 00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:52,767 to see if there was another car coming down. 222 00:10:52,834 --> 00:10:56,100 You were just going into the next lane 'cause you knew darn well 223 00:10:56,165 --> 00:10:58,567 that you were gonna collide into the back of her car 224 00:10:58,633 --> 00:11:01,000 at the speed you were going. That's what happened. 225 00:11:01,066 --> 00:11:04,166 It was all your fault. All of it. Not to mention 226 00:11:04,233 --> 00:11:08,066 that you never, ever, ever, ever shoulda been on the road uninsured. 227 00:11:08,133 --> 00:11:09,133 Okay. 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,834 [Patricia] No, I don't like the attitude! 229 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:13,800 Because one day, something happens to people and then they think, 230 00:11:13,867 --> 00:11:16,633 now I know what it feels like to be out of pocket, 231 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:19,500 to not have a car, to have all my son's things broken. 232 00:11:19,567 --> 00:11:22,300 To be that devastated and upset and traumatized 233 00:11:22,367 --> 00:11:24,900 by somebody who shouldn't have even been in a car. 234 00:11:24,967 --> 00:11:26,667 -How old are you? -[KajaKay] I'm 19 years old. 235 00:11:26,734 --> 00:11:28,900 [Patricia] Stand up straight, by the way. 236 00:11:28,967 --> 00:11:32,367 Get your hands off the table and stand up like a person. 237 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:34,133 [KajaKay] It's like awkward standing... 238 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,300 Hands down. Down, just down. 239 00:11:36,367 --> 00:11:37,767 [sighs] 240 00:11:37,834 --> 00:11:41,667 Really?! And you have an arrogance about... almost like, 241 00:11:41,734 --> 00:11:43,834 I can't believe you're picking on me like this. 242 00:11:44,967 --> 00:11:47,100 [narrator] Coming up on Tribunal Justice... 243 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:50,367 By the way, this is what I like doing. What color was this vehicle 244 00:11:50,433 --> 00:11:52,934 -that you claim swiped your car? -Your Honor, I don't know. 245 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,300 -[Levy] How many doors did it have? -I couldn't tell you. 246 00:11:55,367 --> 00:11:57,200 What kind of vehicle was this mysterious vehicle? 247 00:11:57,266 --> 00:11:58,467 Was it a car, was it a van? 248 00:11:58,533 --> 00:12:01,567 If I had that description, it would've been given to the Highway Patrol. 249 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,700 [laughs] 250 00:12:03,767 --> 00:12:05,433 [dramatic music plays] 251 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,834 [dramatic music plays] 252 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:14,066 [narrator] Christine Furnari is suing fellow motorist 253 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:15,900 KajaKay Madden-Calvin 254 00:12:15,967 --> 00:12:19,567 for damages resulting from a serious car accident. 255 00:12:19,633 --> 00:12:23,333 KajaKay claims she was sideswiped by another driver, 256 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,433 causing her to hit Christine's car. 257 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:29,133 [Patricia] I don't understand your damages. Just explain them to me. 258 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,867 You have this $9,000 that they want to give you. 259 00:12:31,934 --> 00:12:36,100 They take back $2,200 and they say that that's for... 260 00:12:36,165 --> 00:12:39,500 'Cause they wanted the car, but I haven't been in an accident like this prior. 261 00:12:39,567 --> 00:12:40,867 [Patricia] Do you have the car still? 262 00:12:40,934 --> 00:12:43,900 No. So, the salvage yard, to cut the bleeding, 263 00:12:43,967 --> 00:12:46,333 said sign this and we'll stop the cost. 264 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,133 I didn't understand that they were keeping the car. They sold it off. 265 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,467 So, when I said, hey, where's my car, my insurance wants it. "We scrapped it." 266 00:12:53,533 --> 00:12:57,233 Okay, so, they have that, they scrap it, they get the $2,200 and something 267 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:00,333 from the insurance company 'cause you give them the car to hold onto. 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,800 The insurance company just kept the $2,200. They just shorted us. 269 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:06,233 They didn't give it to anybody else, they just kept it. 270 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:08,333 But I just can't... 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,467 When I saw those photographs, 272 00:13:11,533 --> 00:13:13,100 for both you and you, 273 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:16,467 I was like, how did they walk away from this accident? 274 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:19,834 I mean, if you don't believe in a God, this is the time to do it 275 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:23,767 because that's unbelievable, that damage that happened there. 276 00:13:23,834 --> 00:13:27,734 And, you know, in your answer, you say she should be suing the other driver 277 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,166 who caused you to get in this accident. 278 00:13:30,233 --> 00:13:32,300 I mean, is that really your position here? 279 00:13:32,367 --> 00:13:36,533 That the guy that took off is the one that she should be suing? 280 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,533 You sue him if you want. She could sue you. You sue him. 281 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,834 There's no reason why she has to go after somebody else. 282 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:45,300 -You're the one that hit her! -Understood, Your Honor. 283 00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:47,900 You're the one who, I can't help but say this, 284 00:13:47,967 --> 00:13:50,266 should not have been on the road. 285 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:51,734 Hundred percent agreed. 286 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,633 All right. I don't have anything else to add to this. Thank you. 287 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,667 Miss Madden, the reason you don't have a car now 288 00:13:57,734 --> 00:14:00,967 is because you were driving without insurance, you totaled your car, 289 00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:03,400 and that's on you. There's no one who's gonna replace it, right? 290 00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:04,467 Yes, sir. 291 00:14:04,533 --> 00:14:06,000 [Judge Levy] When did you buy that car? 292 00:14:06,066 --> 00:14:09,734 I want to say like two weeks prior to August 10th. 293 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,266 -Are you sure about that? -Yes, sir. 294 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,367 [Judge Levy] You didn't buy it two weeks before. 295 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:16,633 It was May 23rd, 2022. 296 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:20,000 New title reported. New owner. That was you. 297 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:23,667 CARFAX is pretty good with that. August 10th, 2022, 298 00:14:23,734 --> 00:14:25,767 damage report: severe damage. 299 00:14:25,834 --> 00:14:29,467 Okay, when you said you were sure it was two weeks before August, 300 00:14:29,533 --> 00:14:32,133 you were inaccurate. Right? 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Yes, sir. 302 00:14:33,266 --> 00:14:35,266 So, you bought that car for how much? 303 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:36,734 About $28,000. 304 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,567 [Judge Levy] Where'd you get the money from? 305 00:14:38,633 --> 00:14:41,200 Um... because... 306 00:14:41,266 --> 00:14:44,133 I ask questions that you don't expect. 307 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,633 Like my son, from time to time. 308 00:14:46,700 --> 00:14:49,734 When I ask him questions when he's not telling the truth also, 309 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,867 I do the same thing. I'm real good at it. 310 00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:54,200 Where you got the money from to buy your car 311 00:14:54,266 --> 00:14:57,700 has absolutely nothing to do with this crash that you caused. 312 00:14:57,767 --> 00:14:58,767 Mm-hmm. 313 00:14:58,834 --> 00:15:01,533 Let me explain something to you. When I ask questions, 314 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,834 there's always a follow-up. 315 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,166 That's how I know when people are lying to me. 316 00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:11,800 When you bought the car in May of 2022, you got the registration 317 00:15:11,867 --> 00:15:13,800 -from the car dealer. -Yes. Yes, Your Honor. 318 00:15:13,867 --> 00:15:16,066 And you said to, I believe it was Judge Acker, 319 00:15:16,133 --> 00:15:18,667 that you didn't have insurance because you had another car 320 00:15:18,734 --> 00:15:20,066 -and it didn't transfer. -Mm-hmm. 321 00:15:20,133 --> 00:15:22,633 -What other car did you have? -I had another Toyota. 322 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:26,266 So, when you got this new Toyota, you traded your old Toyota in? 323 00:15:26,333 --> 00:15:29,266 -No, I didn't trade it in. No. -[Levy] So now you had two cars? 324 00:15:29,333 --> 00:15:32,600 -Or you sold one. -No. I got rid of the other one, yes, sir. 325 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,133 Okay, so, you got rid of the other one that had insurance, 326 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 and you have now this one that doesn't have insurance. 327 00:15:37,467 --> 00:15:38,467 Yes, Your Honor. 328 00:15:38,533 --> 00:15:41,400 -And that was in May of 2022. Right? -Mm-hmm. Yes. 329 00:15:41,467 --> 00:15:42,633 According to your story. 330 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:44,200 No, not my story. You. 331 00:15:44,266 --> 00:15:47,900 No, you told Judge Acker that you did not have insurance 332 00:15:47,967 --> 00:15:49,767 but you had registration and a license. 333 00:15:49,834 --> 00:15:50,834 Yes, Your Honor. 334 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:53,433 A moment ago you just told us that you did not have insurance 335 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,834 for the vehicle when you purchased it in May of 2022. 336 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:57,767 Insurance hadn't transferred over, right? 337 00:15:57,834 --> 00:16:00,800 So that means that your registration was suspended. 338 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:04,000 Because DMV suspends your registration after 30 days 339 00:16:04,066 --> 00:16:05,567 when you don't have insurance. 340 00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:07,300 So you don't have registration either 341 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:09,667 for the vehicle when you crashed into the Plaintiff. Right? 342 00:16:09,734 --> 00:16:10,633 [KajaKay] Yes. 343 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:12,533 You also said you had a driver's license, right? 344 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,633 Yes. 345 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:16,800 Is that it? Is that what you claim to be your driver's license? 346 00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:18,066 I think that's my I.D. 347 00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:22,500 Just so I'm clear, what you are carrying around is not a driver's license, 348 00:16:22,567 --> 00:16:26,133 -but it is in fact an identification card. -Yes. 349 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,533 When you were driving on August 10th of 2022, 350 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,266 you didn't have a driver's license, you only had an identification card. 351 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:35,333 Right? 352 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Wait... 353 00:16:36,467 --> 00:16:39,567 [Judge Levy] Listen, let me explain, I'm not asking you any questions 354 00:16:39,633 --> 00:16:42,367 -that I don't already know the answers to. -Okay. 355 00:16:42,433 --> 00:16:46,200 This identification card is all you had 356 00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:49,300 when you crashed into the Plaintiff's vehicle 357 00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:52,600 on August 10th, 2022. Right? 358 00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:53,800 Yes, Your Honor. 359 00:16:53,867 --> 00:16:58,033 [Judge Levy] You didn't have a driver's license on August 10th, 2022. 360 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:01,133 -All you had was an I.D. card. Right? -Yes, Your Honor. 361 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,333 You didn't go for a driving test and passed it on August 10th, right? 362 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,400 No, Your Honor. 363 00:17:07,467 --> 00:17:11,700 Are you saying that you did have a license but you just weren't carrying it? 364 00:17:11,767 --> 00:17:12,767 Yes, Your Honor. 365 00:17:12,834 --> 00:17:16,165 [Judge Levy] I'm sorry, it's not an accident report, it's a crash report. 366 00:17:16,233 --> 00:17:19,599 The difference is, you caused the crash. It could've been avoided 367 00:17:19,666 --> 00:17:22,834 if you were in fact being more careful while you were driving, 368 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:25,467 you weren't speeding in an unreasonable manner 369 00:17:25,532 --> 00:17:28,967 as the police officer indicated on his crash report. 370 00:17:29,033 --> 00:17:34,100 So, you gave the police officer this identification card. Right? 371 00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:36,300 Your Honor, I don't recall which I.D. I handed him, 372 00:17:36,367 --> 00:17:39,200 but I did give him some form of I.D. 373 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:42,300 And you know that on August 10th you did not have insurance. 374 00:17:42,367 --> 00:17:43,934 Yes, Your Honor, no insurance. 375 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,400 But you gave him false information. You gave him an insurance card 376 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,533 suggesting that you did have insurance. Didn't you? 377 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,300 -No. -You don't remember doing that? 378 00:17:53,367 --> 00:17:54,367 No, Your Honor. 379 00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:57,667 So, we know now that your registration was suspended. 380 00:17:57,734 --> 00:18:01,200 You had no insurance. You were not driving with a driver's license, 381 00:18:01,266 --> 00:18:03,867 whether you had one or not, quite frankly, I don't care about. 382 00:18:03,934 --> 00:18:06,133 Quite frankly-- A show of hands. 383 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,200 Everyone who's here who has a driver's license, do you have it with you? 384 00:18:11,667 --> 00:18:12,667 Everybody! 385 00:18:14,734 --> 00:18:16,867 [narrator] Coming up on Tribunal Justice... 386 00:18:16,934 --> 00:18:20,166 That's what the police report says. And you're still here. 387 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:23,700 You got the gall, the gall, to step into this courtroom, 388 00:18:23,767 --> 00:18:27,200 swear to tell the truth and claim that some other mysterious person did it 389 00:18:27,266 --> 00:18:29,900 and you're not responsible? You ought to be ashamed of yourself. 390 00:18:29,967 --> 00:18:32,200 And your folks, if they knew how much you lied, 391 00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:33,967 I bet they'd be real disappointed in you. 392 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:35,934 [dramatic music plays] 393 00:18:39,233 --> 00:18:42,500 [dramatic music plays] 394 00:18:42,567 --> 00:18:45,166 Okay, so now, you're claiming that this whole thing 395 00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:47,300 was caused by a sideswiped vehicle, right? 396 00:18:47,367 --> 00:18:49,767 -You claim that you were sideswiped. -Yes, Your Honor. 397 00:18:49,834 --> 00:18:52,033 -That's the story you're sticking with. -Yes. 398 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,700 By the way, this traffic crash report. When was the first time you saw it? 399 00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:58,700 Probably like two months after the accident. 400 00:18:58,767 --> 00:19:00,367 So, you read it when you got it. 401 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:01,433 Not thoroughly. 402 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:03,834 What did you get it if you weren't gonna read it? 403 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:06,133 I didn't go through the trouble. Somebody had emailed it to me. 404 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,266 Who emailed it to you? 405 00:19:07,333 --> 00:19:09,900 The third party that was actually involved in this accident. 406 00:19:09,967 --> 00:19:11,600 -[Judge Levy] The other car that you hit. -[KajaKay] Yes. 407 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:13,300 So that's when you got it for the first time? 408 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:14,367 Yes, Your Honor. 409 00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:17,133 And you read it for the first time about two months after, so... 410 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,367 August, September, October. About October, 2022. 411 00:19:20,433 --> 00:19:23,033 -That's when you read it the first time? -Yes, Your Honor. 412 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:27,467 And in October of 2022, you would've seen that the statement 413 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:32,200 that was memorialized in this report by the Highway Patrol officer... 414 00:19:32,266 --> 00:19:33,266 Yes. 415 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:37,033 Party One interviewed. The vehicle that was passing was never struck. 416 00:19:37,934 --> 00:19:39,967 Never struck her vehicle. You saw that, right? 417 00:19:40,033 --> 00:19:41,333 No, Your Honor, I didn't. 418 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,667 The first time you're seeing that is today? 419 00:19:42,734 --> 00:19:43,734 Yes. 420 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,433 And that's the reason why you put it in your answer to this lawsuit, 421 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:49,166 'cause you didn't know that it was directly contradicted 422 00:19:49,233 --> 00:19:52,100 by a police report that was made at the very same time 423 00:19:52,166 --> 00:19:54,000 -that the crash happened, right? -Yes, Your Honor. 424 00:19:54,066 --> 00:19:57,100 Yeah, of course. By the way, this is what I like doing... 425 00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:59,867 What color was this vehicle that you claim swiped your car? 426 00:19:59,934 --> 00:20:01,000 Your Honor, I don't know. 427 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:03,867 [Judge Levy] How many doors did it have? Two, four, or more? 428 00:20:03,934 --> 00:20:04,967 I couldn't tell you. 429 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:06,967 What kind of vehicle was this mysterious vehicle? 430 00:20:07,033 --> 00:20:09,367 Was it a car, was it a van, was it a pick-up truck? 431 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:12,400 Your Honor, if I had that description, it would've been given to Highway Patrol. 432 00:20:12,467 --> 00:20:14,533 [laughs] 433 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,500 So, you're claiming that there was this mysterious vehicle 434 00:20:17,567 --> 00:20:21,633 that was at the very heart of this crash that could've killed the Plaintiff, 435 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:26,500 her ex-husband or her son, 'caused by this other mysterious vehicle, 436 00:20:26,567 --> 00:20:29,800 and you just forgot to tell the police officer about it? 437 00:20:29,867 --> 00:20:31,767 You forgot to mention it? 438 00:20:31,834 --> 00:20:35,700 My apologies, Your Honor. I was running off adrenaline, I had hit my head... 439 00:20:35,767 --> 00:20:37,166 My apologies. 440 00:20:37,233 --> 00:20:39,166 [Judge Levy] You shouldn't be apologizing to me. 441 00:20:39,233 --> 00:20:41,934 You should apologize to her. And by the way, 442 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,000 also, according to that same crash report, opinions and conclusions. 443 00:20:47,066 --> 00:20:48,834 Once again, we know that you didn't see this 444 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:50,800 before you gave your sworn answer 445 00:20:50,867 --> 00:20:53,266 in this case under the penalties of perjury. 446 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:57,834 So, when you said that "I didn't cause the accident, someone crashed into me," 447 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,867 you didn't know that the police officer at the scene who interviewed you, 448 00:21:01,934 --> 00:21:05,400 the third-party witness, interviewed the Plaintiff, her son, 449 00:21:05,467 --> 00:21:09,200 said Party One, you, traveling at an unsafe speed 450 00:21:09,266 --> 00:21:13,900 for the prevailing roadway conditions. Party One, you, failed to recognize 451 00:21:13,967 --> 00:21:16,567 Vehicle Two was stopped in lane one for traffic. 452 00:21:16,633 --> 00:21:19,400 Party One, you, caused the front of your vehicle 453 00:21:19,467 --> 00:21:24,166 to collide in the rear of her vehicle, and that impact overturned her vehicle. 454 00:21:24,233 --> 00:21:27,367 And your vehicle was going so fast, 455 00:21:27,433 --> 00:21:30,367 it continued going and struck a third vehicle. 456 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:33,433 That's what the police report says. And you're still here. 457 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:36,934 You got the gall, the gall, to step into this courtroom, 458 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,533 swear to tell the truth and claim that some other mysterious person did it 459 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,166 and you're not responsible. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. 460 00:21:43,233 --> 00:21:45,500 And your folks, if they knew how much you lied, 461 00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:48,433 I bet they'd be real disappointed in you. I have nothing else. 462 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:51,533 Okay. Then, we are going to retire to deliberate at this time. Thank you. 463 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,233 [Byrd] Court now stands in recess. Parties are excused. 464 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,166 To me, it's a very easy case. Uh, liability, 465 00:22:02,233 --> 00:22:05,667 regardless of what the Defendant said or what she tried to concoct here, 466 00:22:05,734 --> 00:22:09,066 it's very clear she's liable. I think the damage request, 467 00:22:09,133 --> 00:22:12,033 given these extensive injuries, given the fact that you're 468 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:15,533 getting ready to move into a new home and you've got household supplies 469 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,400 for a new home attached to the car, and given the vehicle damage, 470 00:22:19,467 --> 00:22:21,967 I say she's entitled to the $10,000, all of it. 471 00:22:22,033 --> 00:22:25,100 Fractured wrist, broken ribs... I would agree. 472 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:28,100 I'm on board with you. I mean, there's nothing about her credibility 473 00:22:28,166 --> 00:22:31,767 which I doubt. There's nothing about... It's all consistent, what's in the papers 474 00:22:31,834 --> 00:22:34,734 with the police reports, with the physical and documentary evidence. 475 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,400 I mean, the car was totaled. She's entitled to every penny. 476 00:22:37,467 --> 00:22:38,600 Very good. We're unanimous? 477 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:40,100 -Yep. -Great. 478 00:22:43,333 --> 00:22:46,433 Court is back in session. Parties are reminded you're still under oath. 479 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,633 Thank you, Byrd. Well, we've deliberated, 480 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,934 and we've reached a unanimous verdict, and it didn't take us very long. 481 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,400 You... I'm just gonna say this-- you've got a very respectful demeanor. 482 00:22:59,467 --> 00:23:03,867 But what I cannot get my head around is why you undertook 483 00:23:03,934 --> 00:23:06,500 such an irresponsible decision in the first place. 484 00:23:06,567 --> 00:23:08,433 And you were not candid with us. 485 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:12,834 And beneath that lovely, respectful, quiet demeanor 486 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:16,266 may be somebody who just doesn't give a you-know-what. 487 00:23:16,333 --> 00:23:19,233 And that's not right. You coulda died. They coulda died. 488 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:23,467 This is not just an issue of dotting the "I's" and crossing the "T's." 489 00:23:23,533 --> 00:23:27,100 Oh, I had the car for two weeks, I mean, several months, 490 00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:30,467 and didn't get it insured. This is really, really serious. 491 00:23:30,533 --> 00:23:32,567 And I'm not even going to the license issues 492 00:23:32,633 --> 00:23:36,233 because Judge Levy did some digging and frankly, 493 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:40,300 I find it not believable that you would be a licensed driver 494 00:23:40,367 --> 00:23:42,867 and then just never happen to have your license on you. 495 00:23:42,934 --> 00:23:47,300 I don't find that credible. You're making really, really dangerous choices. 496 00:23:47,367 --> 00:23:51,867 You have proven your case. Listen, you came to court with credible testimony, 497 00:23:51,934 --> 00:23:56,834 with an accident that, thank God, you escaped with your lives with. 498 00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:59,433 And we believe you. I mean, frankly, this could've been 499 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:03,333 a far more expensive accident given the nature of those damages. 500 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,266 So, it is certainly the unanimous verdict of this court 501 00:24:06,333 --> 00:24:08,533 that you be awarded $10,000. 502 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,867 Be careful, drive safely. Not that alcohol was involved in this case, 503 00:24:12,934 --> 00:24:15,700 no evidence that you were drinking, but you're a sophomore in college. 504 00:24:15,767 --> 00:24:18,600 You know never to drink and drive. You know to be insured. 505 00:24:18,667 --> 00:24:20,734 And you know never to be a litigant in court. 506 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,967 Yes, ma'am. 507 00:24:22,033 --> 00:24:23,700 Unless you absolutely have to. That's the judgment of the court. 508 00:24:23,767 --> 00:24:26,033 -Good luck to everybody. -Thank you all, very much. 509 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,533 [Byrd] This case is now concluded. Parties are excused, you may step out. 510 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,100 I'm just glad that we came to a conclusion and we're at the end of this. 511 00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:39,934 Our nightmare's not over. We're still both injured, 512 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,166 with back problems, eye problems. I have to have surgery. 513 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:48,133 So, it's not an ending yet, but this is nice to get a little bit of relief. 514 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,166 The impact, most definitely. It was a lot, it was traumatizing. 515 00:24:51,233 --> 00:24:53,767 Oh, I'll never forget it. It will haunt me the rest of my life. 516 00:24:53,834 --> 00:24:57,900 Pulling him out, the sound of it, going to the ambulance. 517 00:24:57,967 --> 00:25:00,967 I mean, thank God I've never been in a real ambulance and stuff. 518 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,367 Yeah, it's gonna haunt me forever. 519 00:25:03,433 --> 00:25:04,934 I don't know. No comment, I want to go. 520 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,433 We had angels looking out for us. It's a miracle we walked away from that. 521 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:14,100 [narrator] Are you a victim of a scam? Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 522 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:17,266 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice. 523 00:25:17,333 --> 00:25:19,333 [end theme music plays]