1 00:00:00,934 --> 00:00:02,635 [Zak] This has become your life. 2 00:00:02,635 --> 00:00:04,537 It has overtaken your life. 3 00:00:04,537 --> 00:00:06,339 He's mentioned dark entities. 4 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:07,907 [Billy whispering] Look, look, look, look, look, look, look! 5 00:00:07,907 --> 00:00:08,908 What is that? 6 00:00:08,908 --> 00:00:10,744 Imagine not having anybody talk to you, 7 00:00:10,744 --> 00:00:12,812 because when you speak of it, you're just nuts. 8 00:00:12,812 --> 00:00:14,748 I'm afraid he's literally gonna go crazy. 9 00:00:14,748 --> 00:00:16,649 We saw you hiding out over here. 10 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:20,787 Oh, my God, it was trying to say "Justin." 11 00:00:30,764 --> 00:00:36,302 I have a very interesting case on my hands. 12 00:00:36,302 --> 00:00:39,706 And so it's time to call the guys. 13 00:00:41,474 --> 00:00:43,410 What's up, Billy, Jay? 14 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:45,211 - What's up, Zak? - Hey, Zak. 15 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:47,947 - What? - Uh, what is that? 16 00:00:47,947 --> 00:00:50,216 Hey, buddies. 17 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:51,584 - What is that? - What is that? 18 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:54,454 I'm just looking at you guys like a fan would. 19 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:57,924 All right. 20 00:00:59,426 --> 00:01:01,194 All right, guys, I got a case, 21 00:01:01,194 --> 00:01:03,229 uh, a really interesting one. 22 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:05,565 This guy, his name is Justin Kennedy, 23 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:08,134 he's in Jackson, Missouri, 24 00:01:08,134 --> 00:01:12,038 and his family is very concerned for him 25 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:16,576 because he's like overly obsessed 26 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:21,281 with the claimed spirits in his house. 27 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:25,018 And it's gotten so bad that this obsession 28 00:01:25,018 --> 00:01:27,520 has just completely taken over his life. 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,689 So let's watch that video, 30 00:01:29,689 --> 00:01:31,424 his submission video. 31 00:01:31,424 --> 00:01:34,027 Hi. How y'all doing? My name is Justin Kennedy. 32 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:35,628 I live in Jackson, Missouri. 33 00:01:35,628 --> 00:01:37,497 I've always been close to the spiritual realm. 34 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:39,599 I've always been a very spiritual person. 35 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:42,836 The first thing I witnessed was a metal plaque fly 36 00:01:42,836 --> 00:01:46,005 from one side of the hallway to the other with force. 37 00:01:46,005 --> 00:01:47,173 And then, all of a sudden, 38 00:01:47,173 --> 00:01:49,742 eight or ten hangers come from out of the laundry room 39 00:01:49,742 --> 00:01:52,479 and fly down the hallway and slam into my bedroom door. 40 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,015 But it had made me start to question myself 41 00:01:56,015 --> 00:01:57,750 and, man, what's going on? 42 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:01,421 And for me to ever question my sanity is a statement-- 43 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:03,123 a statement that's so huge and heavy 44 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:04,891 that you really don't understand 45 00:02:04,891 --> 00:02:05,725 because you don't know me. 46 00:02:08,161 --> 00:02:10,563 I don't have no friends because I'm the crazy one. 47 00:02:10,563 --> 00:02:12,031 I'm the crazy man. 48 00:02:12,031 --> 00:02:13,399 Everything's a nightmare here. 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,837 It sounds like this man's life is falling apart. 50 00:02:17,837 --> 00:02:18,972 - Yeah. - Yeah. 51 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:24,844 So we need to go help and see whether or not spirits 52 00:02:24,844 --> 00:02:30,517 and paranormal events are the cause to blame, okay? 53 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:32,519 Let's remember that someone's life 54 00:02:32,519 --> 00:02:35,522 seems like it's very much on the line here. 55 00:02:35,522 --> 00:02:37,557 - Okay? - This is serious. 56 00:02:37,557 --> 00:02:39,325 You guys have a safe flight, okay? 57 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:40,793 I'm gonna do a little bit more research. 58 00:02:40,793 --> 00:02:42,595 AND I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS A CALL HERE, UH, 59 00:02:42,595 --> 00:02:44,030 when you-- when you, uh, land. 60 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:45,131 - Okay? - All right. 61 00:02:45,131 --> 00:02:46,566 - Perfect. - Thanks, Zak. 62 00:02:46,566 --> 00:02:48,201 - Thanks, Zak. - It's time to go to work. 63 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:49,736 Time to go to work. 64 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:01,147 [spooky ringtone playing] 65 00:03:01,147 --> 00:03:02,715 - Is that Zak? - There's Zak right there. 66 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:06,286 - Hey, Zak. - Hey. 67 00:03:06,286 --> 00:03:08,588 - You guys on the way? - Yeah, we're almost there. 68 00:03:08,588 --> 00:03:11,324 Okay, so I did some research, 69 00:03:11,324 --> 00:03:14,827 and I thought this was important for you all to know. 70 00:03:14,827 --> 00:03:19,098 If there is a negative presence on the property 71 00:03:19,098 --> 00:03:20,700 and in this home, 72 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:23,336 Justin might be experiencing 73 00:03:23,336 --> 00:03:26,506 something that could possibly tie into 74 00:03:26,506 --> 00:03:29,275 a catastrophically deadly event 75 00:03:29,275 --> 00:03:32,111 that was very close to his house. 76 00:03:33,346 --> 00:03:36,616 The Trail of Tears, which ran right through this land, 77 00:03:36,616 --> 00:03:38,651 refers to the forced migration 78 00:03:38,651 --> 00:03:41,955 of approximately 60,000 Native Americans 79 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:46,226 by European settlers between 1830 and 1850. 80 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:50,296 An estimated 15,000 people died 81 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:53,099 as a result of this atrocity. 82 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:54,934 There were massacres, there were murders, 83 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:56,236 there were battles, there were deaths 84 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:57,570 all along this trail. 85 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:01,207 [Zak on phone] It could be a curse tied to the land. 86 00:04:01,207 --> 00:04:02,976 - Right. - Right, right. 87 00:04:02,976 --> 00:04:05,812 All right, guys. As always, when you knock on that door 88 00:04:05,812 --> 00:04:08,214 and enter that home, be very careful. 89 00:04:08,214 --> 00:04:11,818 A lot of times, if there are dark entities inhabiting these houses, 90 00:04:11,818 --> 00:04:14,087 they will know that we're coming. 91 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,488 - Yeah. - So be safe. 92 00:04:15,488 --> 00:04:16,656 - Okay. Thanks, Zak. - Thanks, Zak. 93 00:04:36,909 --> 00:04:37,877 - [Jay] How are you doing? - How are you? 94 00:04:37,877 --> 00:04:38,811 - [Billy] Justin? - Good. Yeah. 95 00:04:38,811 --> 00:04:40,079 - How you doing? - How's it going? Billy. 96 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:41,514 - Billy. - Aaron. 97 00:04:41,514 --> 00:04:42,815 Jay. 98 00:04:42,815 --> 00:04:44,317 - All right, come on in. - Is it all right if we come in? Yeah. 99 00:04:48,421 --> 00:04:50,823 So the first thing I noticed, we watched your submission video, 100 00:04:50,823 --> 00:04:53,593 and you mentioned you were intuitive from an early age, 101 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:55,662 and you've had a spiritual connection. 102 00:04:55,662 --> 00:04:58,865 Throughout my life, I've had brief experiences, you know, 103 00:04:58,865 --> 00:05:00,500 some I would call demonic, 104 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:02,735 some, you know, I've left my body. 105 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:04,137 - Okay. - You know, so, as I've gotten older, 106 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:06,572 I just realized I'm a beacon in the night to the lost. 107 00:05:06,572 --> 00:05:08,541 I'm a magnet, for whatever reason, 108 00:05:08,541 --> 00:05:09,375 to the other side. 109 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:11,010 But this here takes the cake. 110 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:17,350 - And this is my girlfriend. - And your girlfriend, Jennifer. 111 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:19,319 Jennifer, you said you have to leave for work soon, 112 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:22,355 - so we'll ask you some questions. - Right. 113 00:05:22,355 --> 00:05:25,058 Like, how is it messing with you guys psychologically? 114 00:05:25,058 --> 00:05:26,459 - Like, have you seen a change in him? - It's put a-- 115 00:05:26,459 --> 00:05:27,660 Do you see her change? 116 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,195 It's definitely put a damper. 117 00:05:29,195 --> 00:05:32,465 His obsession with the ghost hunting 118 00:05:32,465 --> 00:05:36,102 or feeling that there's bad here or whatever, 119 00:05:36,102 --> 00:05:38,204 it's just put a big wall between us. 120 00:05:38,204 --> 00:05:41,507 My relationship with Jennifer is trashed 121 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:43,843 and has been for a long time. 122 00:05:43,843 --> 00:05:46,312 I don't see a lot of things that he might see. 123 00:05:47,747 --> 00:05:48,915 Not that I don't believe him. 124 00:05:48,915 --> 00:05:52,118 It's just we hear about it all-- you know, so much 125 00:05:52,118 --> 00:05:53,653 that I just put it in the back of my mind. 126 00:05:54,754 --> 00:05:57,123 Imagine not ever having anybody to talk to, 127 00:05:57,123 --> 00:05:58,391 you know, 128 00:05:58,391 --> 00:06:01,294 because when you speak of it, you're just nuts. 129 00:06:01,294 --> 00:06:04,397 Sometimes I do think he's crazy, you know. 130 00:06:09,869 --> 00:06:11,170 It's sad, you know. 131 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:13,206 Uh, I love him. 132 00:06:16,242 --> 00:06:17,377 I do. 133 00:06:18,811 --> 00:06:22,882 It's just-- I don't know, taking a toll on him. 134 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:26,219 He's just not the same person that I met, you know. 135 00:06:31,824 --> 00:06:32,825 Before you have to go to work, 136 00:06:32,825 --> 00:06:34,527 do you want to show us like a spot 137 00:06:34,527 --> 00:06:36,295 and tell us the story of what you-- 138 00:06:36,295 --> 00:06:38,464 - Sure. - We'd love to get as much information 139 00:06:38,464 --> 00:06:39,499 as we possibly can. 140 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,137 [Jennifer] We were sleeping and it's like something 141 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:45,338 was like, I guess, I don't know, 142 00:06:45,338 --> 00:06:46,239 my arm was hanging off. 143 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:47,707 I don't know if it was a bad dream, 144 00:06:47,707 --> 00:06:48,775 but it was so real life. 145 00:06:48,775 --> 00:06:50,943 Like, I was being tugged... 146 00:06:50,943 --> 00:06:54,280 - Yeah. - ...like, how I felt, being pulled off the bed. 147 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,449 That's what I-- I second-guess myself, you know, 148 00:06:56,449 --> 00:06:57,617 because I think about that time 149 00:06:57,617 --> 00:07:00,420 that there was a lot of activity 150 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:03,022 or whatever in the house that he was feeling or seeing. 151 00:07:03,022 --> 00:07:04,824 And, um... 152 00:07:04,824 --> 00:07:08,494 I don't know if my mind was influenced or... or... 153 00:07:09,495 --> 00:07:12,098 She has "dreams," is what she calls it, 154 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:13,866 and she'll be in there like moaning 155 00:07:13,866 --> 00:07:15,968 and screaming and kicking. 156 00:07:16,702 --> 00:07:17,603 It could have been a dream. 157 00:07:17,603 --> 00:07:18,905 I mean, it really could have. 158 00:07:18,905 --> 00:07:22,041 Um, but it was so real life if it was. 159 00:07:22,041 --> 00:07:24,977 Jen had just started going to doctors. 160 00:07:24,977 --> 00:07:26,245 You know, she was having problems. 161 00:07:26,846 --> 00:07:28,014 In my mind, 162 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:30,316 I'm thinking that the energy of the house is affecting her. 163 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:33,586 So that's pushing me harder to get resolved. 164 00:07:33,586 --> 00:07:36,222 I don't want my daughter in harm's way, obviously ever. 165 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:38,658 So that's the drive that's behind it. 166 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:42,462 He started educating himself on what all of this was, 167 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:46,065 and doing research and paying for that type of stuff. 168 00:07:46,065 --> 00:07:48,100 That is when all of this started, really. 169 00:07:52,338 --> 00:07:54,040 So it's you, your girlfriend, your-- 170 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,174 Does your daughter live here, too? 171 00:07:55,174 --> 00:07:56,642 - Yeah. - Okay. So the three of you? 172 00:07:56,642 --> 00:08:00,079 - Yeah. - So would you say you're the most affected by this? 173 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:01,247 Absolutely. 174 00:08:01,247 --> 00:08:04,784 Would you say you're the most that's looking into it 175 00:08:04,784 --> 00:08:06,819 - and trying to figure it out? - All day. 176 00:08:06,819 --> 00:08:08,254 - [Aaron] Yeah. You're consumed by it. - All day. 177 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:10,223 To the point I've destroyed my relationship. 178 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:11,691 He'll take pictures. 179 00:08:11,691 --> 00:08:14,694 He has like 2,500 pictures on his phone. 180 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:17,163 He just sits there and fixates on these pictures 181 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:18,931 all day long. 182 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:20,266 I tell him all the time, I don't believe it 183 00:08:20,266 --> 00:08:21,000 and he gets mad. 184 00:08:21,701 --> 00:08:23,069 We hardly talk. 185 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:24,504 We argue a lot over it. 186 00:08:25,538 --> 00:08:27,073 If we do sit down at like the kitchen table 187 00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:29,475 to have a conversation, it turns into 188 00:08:29,475 --> 00:08:32,144 "Look at this. Look at this." You know? 189 00:08:32,144 --> 00:08:34,580 The first thing I really saw was cartoon characters 190 00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:36,249 jumping out of my mirror in the bathroom. 191 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:37,817 What do you mean "cartoon characters"? 192 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:39,752 You familiar cartoon character entities? 193 00:08:40,186 --> 00:08:41,087 - No. - Really? 194 00:08:41,087 --> 00:08:42,889 - No. - They're colorful cartoons. 195 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:45,591 I got 'em jumping out the TV, back flipping. 196 00:08:45,591 --> 00:08:49,929 I fully believe in paranormal activity and ghosts and... 197 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:51,364 people coming to visit you and stuff, 198 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,065 but I don't believe... 199 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,233 the cartoon characters. 200 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:56,969 You go your whole life, you know, 201 00:08:56,969 --> 00:08:58,271 you raise your kids, or whatever, 202 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:00,840 and you're used to a certain look, 203 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,441 a certain way they hug you. 204 00:09:02,441 --> 00:09:04,110 Like, every time I'd walk in a room, 205 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:06,913 her whole existence would glow. 206 00:09:07,179 --> 00:09:07,947 "Dad." 207 00:09:09,916 --> 00:09:12,118 It went from that to every time I walk in, 208 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:14,320 just sad or anxiety on her face. 209 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:17,256 There's just so much craziness to me, 210 00:09:17,256 --> 00:09:18,558 and then not to others. 211 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:21,127 You know, it's like is it-- is it me? 212 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:23,329 You know, is it-- Am I really going that crazy? You know? 213 00:09:26,599 --> 00:09:28,200 All day long, it jumps out at me. 214 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,770 People talk to me through this mirror constantly, 215 00:09:30,770 --> 00:09:32,204 looking at me, all the mirrors, 216 00:09:32,204 --> 00:09:33,339 any reflective surface. 217 00:09:37,176 --> 00:09:38,210 I lost my job 218 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:40,346 because I couldn't stay off my monitors long enough. 219 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:43,015 I couldn't leave my cameras alone. 220 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:44,884 It consumed me, 221 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:47,486 and I'd just got my foot in the management door. 222 00:09:47,486 --> 00:09:48,754 I was on my way to the top. 223 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:50,356 At the time, it wasn't devastating. 224 00:09:50,356 --> 00:09:51,457 I didn't care. 225 00:09:51,457 --> 00:09:52,858 Because now I've got free time for real 226 00:09:52,858 --> 00:09:54,360 to look at my cameras. 227 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,230 I-- I personally didn't see anything, 228 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:59,599 um, really in the cameras 229 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:02,668 or, you know, going back on the feeds or whatever. 230 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:07,540 You know, once we find out more about what's happening here, 231 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:09,275 we want to try to help you and your family, 232 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:10,743 because no one should live like that, you know? 233 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:12,345 [Aaron] Yeah, and try to pinpoint what it is, 234 00:10:12,345 --> 00:10:15,014 - give you some sanity on what it is. - I absolutely appreciate it. 235 00:10:15,014 --> 00:10:16,916 This ain't living life. This is just existing. 236 00:10:26,926 --> 00:10:29,095 [Zak] With the intensely dark history 237 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:31,931 and Justin's concerning state of mind, 238 00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:34,567 there are a lot of elements at play here. 239 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:36,302 So the guys pull out some gear 240 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:39,605 to try to get a sense of what is really going on. 241 00:10:39,605 --> 00:10:42,608 I got my EMF detector, like, so I can take some readings. 242 00:10:43,609 --> 00:10:45,411 As Jay talks to Justin, 243 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:48,614 Billy records major electromagnetic spikes 244 00:10:48,614 --> 00:10:50,082 on the Tri-Field meter. 245 00:10:50,082 --> 00:10:51,917 [Billy whispering] Look, look, look, look, look, look, look! 246 00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:53,953 - [Justin] ...2:00 at the morning... - Look, look, Aaron. 247 00:10:53,953 --> 00:10:55,021 [Aaron] Yeah. 248 00:10:55,021 --> 00:10:56,522 [Justin] ...and that's what... 249 00:10:56,522 --> 00:10:58,858 [Zak] These abnormal spikes could be caused 250 00:10:58,858 --> 00:11:00,993 by a high-voltage power line 251 00:11:00,993 --> 00:11:04,530 or a nearby electrical substation. 252 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:09,301 Medical experts believe that these kinds of high-frequency EMF's 253 00:11:09,301 --> 00:11:11,937 have a dangerous effect on the nervous system. 254 00:11:13,739 --> 00:11:14,907 Bill, Aaron, check this out. 255 00:11:14,907 --> 00:11:17,043 He was just mentioning he saw something over my shoulder. 256 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:18,911 - Anytime-- - He just took this photo. 257 00:11:18,911 --> 00:11:21,714 - I noticed the-- - Like, in the reflection, you could almost see, like, 258 00:11:21,714 --> 00:11:23,015 it looks like a figure in there. 259 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:25,518 [Aaron] What is that? 260 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:27,119 - Right? - I got so much to show you, man. 261 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:29,755 - He just took this. - So this-- the light waves, man. 262 00:11:29,755 --> 00:11:32,425 Them colors is kind of like a crazy-looking monkey. 263 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:35,227 So, whatever, I'm sure he's got ectoplasma on him. Still... 264 00:11:35,227 --> 00:11:37,863 [Zak] Billy is able to take a picture on his phone 265 00:11:37,863 --> 00:11:39,865 that matches the image 266 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:42,868 that Justin was seeing as the face of a monkey. 267 00:11:42,868 --> 00:11:44,070 [Billy] You think it's matrixing? 268 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:44,804 [Jay] It could be. 269 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:46,939 I think what that is, 270 00:11:46,939 --> 00:11:51,143 the refraction of that light is showing the smudges 271 00:11:51,143 --> 00:11:53,813 on this mirror right here. 272 00:11:53,813 --> 00:11:57,750 [Zak] But Justin still insists it is evidence of an entity. 273 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:00,419 They always leave a smudge when they come through. 274 00:12:01,787 --> 00:12:03,255 It leaves an imprint. 275 00:12:03,255 --> 00:12:06,092 Everything usually is blurred, but they move by vibrations, 276 00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:07,226 so it's hard to get a clear shot. 277 00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:08,127 It's impossible. 278 00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:10,763 And in the moment of when things open up 279 00:12:10,763 --> 00:12:11,697 and worlds collide, 280 00:12:11,697 --> 00:12:13,966 everything is a-- it also creates a blur. 281 00:12:18,003 --> 00:12:20,940 I've went back and looked at my baby book 282 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:22,341 in the hospital as an infant. 283 00:12:22,341 --> 00:12:24,744 I'm surrounded in mist and demonic-- 284 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:26,479 you know, all through my life. 285 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:28,214 My fifth grade birthday picture, 286 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:31,083 is all craziness in the background. 287 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:32,952 Why I never saw it before, and no one else could see it, 288 00:12:32,952 --> 00:12:33,919 I don't know. 289 00:12:38,057 --> 00:12:41,060 [Zak] The guys asked Justin about the poltergeist activity 290 00:12:41,060 --> 00:12:43,863 he says he has witnessed in the house. 291 00:12:43,863 --> 00:12:45,631 I was in the bedroom like right in there, 292 00:12:45,631 --> 00:12:48,167 and there was a metal picture on the wall 293 00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:49,068 on this side. 294 00:12:49,068 --> 00:12:50,836 And it didn't fall. It flew from here 295 00:12:50,836 --> 00:12:52,471 and banged into wall and fell. 296 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:55,074 And, you know, just like our laundry room, 297 00:12:55,074 --> 00:12:56,976 I saw eight or ten hangers fly down this hallway, 298 00:12:56,976 --> 00:12:58,444 smash the door. 299 00:12:58,444 --> 00:12:59,912 We definitely want to see those spots. 300 00:12:59,912 --> 00:13:01,814 Where did the hangers come from? 301 00:13:01,814 --> 00:13:02,681 [Justin] Out of the laundry room. 302 00:13:02,681 --> 00:13:05,451 But they was on top of the washer. 303 00:13:05,451 --> 00:13:07,419 [Jay] So the hangers were in this room, right? 304 00:13:07,419 --> 00:13:10,656 And they came out of this room and went down this hallway. 305 00:13:10,656 --> 00:13:11,657 [Justin] Slowly they go... 306 00:13:11,657 --> 00:13:12,925 [making wind noise] 307 00:13:12,925 --> 00:13:16,095 And they would stop and go, whap, and smash in the door. 308 00:13:16,095 --> 00:13:17,963 That's wild. That's a crazy story. 309 00:13:17,963 --> 00:13:20,866 - Yeah, that's crazy. - Like, you know, we've seen objects lift off the ground. 310 00:13:20,866 --> 00:13:22,234 We've seen them go flying. 311 00:13:22,234 --> 00:13:26,639 But to actually like make a 90 degree turn as well is pretty wild. 312 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:31,911 [Zak] Justin also says he was body slammed 313 00:13:31,911 --> 00:13:35,147 by something unseen in the backyard. 314 00:13:35,147 --> 00:13:36,582 [Justin] So I had a privacy fence put up. 315 00:13:36,582 --> 00:13:39,185 - [Jay] Yep - So I'm helping the guy 316 00:13:39,185 --> 00:13:42,154 unload panels that day on the back hill, 317 00:13:42,154 --> 00:13:44,924 and my feet literally just come up to my head, 318 00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:47,159 and I can't describe the feeling, 319 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:49,328 but I slammed so hard I couldn't move. 320 00:13:49,328 --> 00:13:52,498 And this guy jumped and he literally said, 321 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,366 "Dude, you look like you got body slammed." 322 00:13:54,366 --> 00:13:56,468 You can imagine the energy it would take to body slam me. 323 00:13:56,468 --> 00:13:58,437 Oh, yeah, that's a massive amount of energy. 324 00:13:58,437 --> 00:14:00,506 With so much force, 325 00:14:00,506 --> 00:14:01,507 I can't even describe it. 326 00:14:04,944 --> 00:14:06,412 Ever since this thing has started, man, 327 00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:08,547 the energy off this vortex or portals, 328 00:14:08,547 --> 00:14:09,515 or whatever you wanna call it, 329 00:14:09,515 --> 00:14:11,083 has destroyed my body, man. 330 00:14:11,083 --> 00:14:12,785 Well, I think that's what they try to do. 331 00:14:12,785 --> 00:14:14,286 They try to like break you down 332 00:14:14,286 --> 00:14:16,255 and drive you crazy and cause problems. 333 00:14:16,255 --> 00:14:18,090 People fight, and all kinds of crazy [bleep] 334 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:19,225 can happen from that. 335 00:14:22,962 --> 00:14:26,432 I wake up and want to kick doors off hinges at times, 336 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:27,566 or even want to just kill people. 337 00:14:27,566 --> 00:14:30,302 I mean, it's crazy to even hear it or say it. 338 00:14:30,302 --> 00:14:32,671 And there's been a few times where he's gotten real mad 339 00:14:32,671 --> 00:14:36,242 and like kicking the doors and just raging out. 340 00:14:36,242 --> 00:14:37,910 He has to leave. 341 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:39,245 He'll wake up sometimes and be like, 342 00:14:39,245 --> 00:14:40,913 "Man, I just feel like killing people." 343 00:14:43,515 --> 00:14:44,516 You know, hearing your own dad say that, 344 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:46,418 "You're like what in the world?" 345 00:14:49,021 --> 00:14:51,423 The angrier I am, the more intense it gets. 346 00:14:52,524 --> 00:14:55,160 If you keep doing this, it's not gonna stop. 347 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,129 - [Jay] Can't block it out. - What are you doing? That's like your mission, 348 00:14:57,129 --> 00:14:59,131 is like, "I'm gonna find out what this is--" 349 00:14:59,131 --> 00:15:01,700 Yeah, and you're antagonizing it, antagonizing it. 350 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:03,869 - [Justin] Yeah. - So it's almost like if you shut it off, 351 00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:05,170 this would be a peaceful place. 352 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:07,907 It's a choice on you when we leave. 353 00:15:09,341 --> 00:15:12,578 [Zak] This is obviously a very unique case, 354 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:13,946 so the guys step away 355 00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:16,248 to assess what they've gathered so far. 356 00:15:17,149 --> 00:15:18,717 I think the smudges on the mirror, 357 00:15:18,717 --> 00:15:19,718 that's what-- you know, 358 00:15:19,718 --> 00:15:20,753 - [Aaron] Debunked. - Debunked. 359 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,488 So I took the XLS in, 360 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:23,989 I scanned the kitchen, 361 00:15:23,989 --> 00:15:25,224 I scanned the living room, 362 00:15:25,224 --> 00:15:26,191 I scanned the hallway, 363 00:15:26,191 --> 00:15:27,860 I scanned the daughter's bedroom, 364 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,695 - where the deer head is in there. - Mmm-hmm. 365 00:15:29,695 --> 00:15:31,030 Nothing. I went in there 366 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:33,332 when you guys were interviewing Justin 367 00:15:33,332 --> 00:15:35,668 and I shot the entire room and you guys, 368 00:15:35,668 --> 00:15:36,535 and it was just normal. 369 00:15:36,535 --> 00:15:38,304 It mapped all three of you, right? 370 00:15:38,304 --> 00:15:41,573 When I went into the room where the baby's crib is, 371 00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:44,910 the guest room that has all the baby stuff and the crib. 372 00:15:44,910 --> 00:15:46,745 I'm scanning from right to left. 373 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:48,013 Remember, it's reversed. 374 00:15:48,013 --> 00:15:49,882 It hits the crib, 375 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:51,817 okay, and there's this. 376 00:15:51,817 --> 00:15:54,987 And so I hold on it because I'm trying to figure out, 377 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:57,456 what could it be mapping that's over the crib? 378 00:15:57,456 --> 00:15:59,224 Then it turns into a figure. 379 00:16:01,927 --> 00:16:03,329 And then just-- and then leaves. 380 00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:04,463 - [Jay] And just totally vanishes. - And so then, 381 00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:08,901 I scanned again and I could not duplicate it. 382 00:16:08,901 --> 00:16:11,704 [Aaron] Almost when you're panning, because you're going slow... 383 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:14,173 - Yeah. - ...it's like just tight as it can 384 00:16:14,173 --> 00:16:15,507 - up to the wall. - [Jay] It's trying to hide. 385 00:16:15,507 --> 00:16:18,110 - [Billy] Right-- - And then it's like, "Aah," and then it left. 386 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:19,178 So, was it hiding? 387 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,579 - Well, think about it. - I don't know. 388 00:16:20,579 --> 00:16:22,848 Think about it. Most cases we ever do, 389 00:16:22,848 --> 00:16:24,783 the spirits try to hide or don't show up-- 390 00:16:24,783 --> 00:16:27,052 - [Jay] In the attic or the basement. - Right. We've had that. 391 00:16:27,052 --> 00:16:30,889 So, right now, this spirit is feeding off of him, 392 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:32,624 getting all this attention from it. 393 00:16:32,624 --> 00:16:34,526 And even if some of it isn't it-- 394 00:16:34,526 --> 00:16:35,627 and if it is hiding, 395 00:16:35,627 --> 00:16:36,829 then it means it's bound to the house. 396 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:37,896 To make him look crazy. 397 00:16:43,969 --> 00:16:45,738 So other than that, we're left with what? 398 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:46,972 He's obsessed. 399 00:16:46,972 --> 00:16:49,341 - [Aaron] Yeah. - Like, whether whatever is going on here, 400 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:52,077 like, we don't know if it's happening or not yet. 401 00:16:52,077 --> 00:16:55,581 But like he is deeply obsessed with what's going on here. 402 00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:57,116 - I'm not saying this is haunted. - Right. 403 00:16:57,116 --> 00:16:58,117 It doesn't mean that it's not haunted. 404 00:16:58,117 --> 00:17:00,886 No, but the point that he's obsessed, 100%. 405 00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:01,987 He's all in. 406 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:08,761 I do feel that I'm addicted to this madness, 407 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,429 as crazy as that sounds. 408 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:11,597 You know, I'm like a pit bull. 409 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:13,532 Once I chew-- take a bite, 410 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:15,501 I'm gonna chew it until I'm done with it. 411 00:17:15,501 --> 00:17:17,403 And I've chewed this thing up and it's chewed me up. 412 00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:20,739 Like, he needs to be able to dial it back, 413 00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:22,174 one, just to stop feeding it. 414 00:17:22,174 --> 00:17:23,942 If there is something here, that will help. 415 00:17:23,942 --> 00:17:26,979 And, two, he's thinking everything is paranormal. 416 00:17:26,979 --> 00:17:28,580 - [Billy] Everything's a ghost. - Everything is. 417 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:29,748 - He's gone a little over... - Right. 418 00:17:29,748 --> 00:17:32,117 He needs some kind of resolution. 419 00:17:32,117 --> 00:17:34,420 He seems like he needs an answer... 420 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:35,354 - Yeah, he needs an answer. - ...or he's-- 421 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:37,289 I'm afraid he's literally gonna go crazy. 422 00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:47,633 I honestly think we should call Zak, 423 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:49,935 because this is like-- I'm kind of hitting a wall of like 424 00:17:49,935 --> 00:17:52,471 how do we proceed with this kind of case? 425 00:17:52,471 --> 00:17:55,340 - Yeah. - I'm just gonna give him a call. 426 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:56,975 - [line ringing] - [Aaron] It's definitely haunted, 427 00:17:56,975 --> 00:17:58,243 but it's got too far for him. 428 00:17:58,243 --> 00:17:59,545 [Billy] You think it's haunted? 429 00:17:59,545 --> 00:18:01,447 - I think this land's haunted. - [Zak on phone] Hello. 430 00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:02,381 - [Jay] Hey, Zak. - Hey. 431 00:18:02,381 --> 00:18:04,349 So this is interesting 432 00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:06,385 and like there's obviously layers here 433 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:09,188 that can totally back up a haunting. 434 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:11,090 He's mentioned dark entities, 435 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,025 not just like an earthbound spirit, 436 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:14,159 like something darker. 437 00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:15,360 What we're finding is 438 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,962 everything he's been showing us, 439 00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:20,732 like he's totally obsessed with this place being haunted. 440 00:18:20,732 --> 00:18:21,900 Like, he has-- 441 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,603 it looks like thousands of videos and pictures. 442 00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:26,238 He started showing us some of them, 443 00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:27,573 and they're all debunkable. 444 00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:29,508 And we're not saying this place isn't haunted, 445 00:18:29,508 --> 00:18:31,210 because we do believe he's going through something. 446 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:32,744 But it's almost gotten to the point 447 00:18:32,744 --> 00:18:34,146 where now, like, you know... 448 00:18:34,146 --> 00:18:36,849 - [Billy] He's obsessed with it being... - ...anything is everything. 449 00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:38,684 You know, there's a few different things here 450 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:40,752 that I could diagnose this with. 451 00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:43,789 If this is some type of a demonic attachment 452 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:45,924 and he's under a state of severe oppression, 453 00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:49,361 resulting in this hyper paranoia state of mind... 454 00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:52,131 - Mmm. - ...this guy could be, you know, 455 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:55,434 PTSD trauma from spirits. 456 00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:58,036 - And they're literally going crazy because of it. - Right. 457 00:18:58,036 --> 00:19:00,272 And this is why so many cases of possession 458 00:19:00,272 --> 00:19:04,209 were misdiagnosed and are continuing to be misdiagnosed. 459 00:19:07,913 --> 00:19:10,249 We don't know these people. They're house calls. 460 00:19:10,249 --> 00:19:12,751 House calls are urgent responses 461 00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:15,287 that we have to people calling us for help. 462 00:19:15,287 --> 00:19:16,889 And we're not going to say every single one 463 00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:18,957 - is going to be a legitimate haunting. - Right. 464 00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,659 We don't know. We don't know these people. 465 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:22,327 We've never been to their house. 466 00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:27,099 Yes, there could be possibly some kind of delusions going on, 467 00:19:27,099 --> 00:19:29,101 possibly some mental conditions. 468 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:34,373 - But our job is to base our final decision... - Mmm. 469 00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:36,508 ...off of our evidence. 470 00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:37,476 - Yeah. - Absolutely. 471 00:19:37,476 --> 00:19:39,311 And what I would do 472 00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:43,882 is that I would go for the hard concrete evidence. 473 00:19:43,882 --> 00:19:45,117 Yeah. 474 00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:47,920 - Scientific. - I would literally have him in the house, 475 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,388 put him on a camera. 476 00:19:49,388 --> 00:19:53,425 - Jay, I want you to set up a microphone hardwire, okay? - Okay. 477 00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:56,094 And I want you to put that microphone somewhere in there 478 00:19:56,094 --> 00:19:58,730 and just do some religious provocation, 479 00:19:58,730 --> 00:20:00,899 and I want to see if it has a reaction. 480 00:20:00,899 --> 00:20:02,267 Okay. Yeah. 481 00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:04,703 - Yeah. Right. - And this is like a doctor doing observation 482 00:20:04,703 --> 00:20:06,171 to a patient that has an illness 483 00:20:06,171 --> 00:20:07,673 that they're trying to diagnose. 484 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:10,742 We can do this through observation and symptoms. 485 00:20:10,742 --> 00:20:13,579 Aaron, I want you to set up some meters 486 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:15,948 where there's a nice low-baseline reading. 487 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:18,383 And I want you to just sit there 488 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:19,851 and monitor those meters. 489 00:20:19,851 --> 00:20:23,021 - Okay. - This will be the first stage of our lockdown. 490 00:20:23,021 --> 00:20:24,056 - Okay. - Okay? 491 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:26,091 Because something might pop up 492 00:20:26,091 --> 00:20:28,026 that could spin this whole investigation 493 00:20:28,026 --> 00:20:29,194 into a different direction. 494 00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:31,129 - Absolutely. - If somebody has a dark attachment, 495 00:20:31,129 --> 00:20:32,698 we do religious provocation, 496 00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:34,666 and it's obvious to these entities 497 00:20:34,666 --> 00:20:37,169 that we're trying to banish this entity, 498 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:40,005 something will happen. Something should happen. 499 00:20:46,378 --> 00:20:48,013 So right now we kind of have a little bit of 500 00:20:48,013 --> 00:20:51,817 a surprise tactic that we want to run with Justin. 501 00:20:51,817 --> 00:20:54,786 Justin is in his bedroom, sitting in his chair right there. 502 00:20:54,786 --> 00:20:56,021 And around Justin, 503 00:20:56,021 --> 00:21:00,492 we have EMF meters that light up. One, two, three. 504 00:21:00,492 --> 00:21:01,360 Aside from that, 505 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,762 Aaron has set up two meters, 506 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:05,664 the analog Tri-Field meter 507 00:21:05,664 --> 00:21:07,032 and the digital Tri-Field meter, 508 00:21:07,032 --> 00:21:08,200 which he has a camera on. 509 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,535 He's gonna be monitoring the levels. 510 00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:13,105 I'm gonna be using a high-powered directional boom microphone 511 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:14,640 to be able to listen to. 512 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,309 I'm going to basically come in and sit right here on the bed next to him. 513 00:21:17,309 --> 00:21:19,111 And I'll be able to pick up any kind of sounds 514 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,746 that are manifesting around him. 515 00:21:20,746 --> 00:21:22,714 [Billy] Jay is listening for the sounds. 516 00:21:22,714 --> 00:21:24,316 Aaron's watching the meters. 517 00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:27,185 What we haven't told Justin is 518 00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:31,023 I have some holy water that we carry with us with with our cleansing kit 519 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,325 as well as some Palo Santo wood, 520 00:21:33,325 --> 00:21:36,495 which I'm going to light without him being aware of it. 521 00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:38,730 What we want to do is we want to see if it elicits 522 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:41,667 some sort of response or reaction from him. 523 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:44,269 If he does have an attachment or something that is dark, 524 00:21:44,269 --> 00:21:45,270 it will not like it. 525 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:49,007 That happened at one of our previous episodes. 526 00:21:49,007 --> 00:21:50,809 The family that we helped that were both paramedics, 527 00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:52,411 as soon as I lit the Palo Santo wood, 528 00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:54,813 she basically wanted to go after Jay. 529 00:21:57,349 --> 00:21:59,885 So we'll see what happens. 530 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:01,787 I'm gonna be observing here for just a few minutes. 531 00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:03,388 - Sure. - Okay? And then I'll come in. 532 00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:05,824 And I will light the Palo Santo wood in the front room 533 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:07,626 and then I'll just walk to where you guys are. 534 00:22:07,626 --> 00:22:08,660 Pay attention to the meters 535 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:09,594 and we'll see if you hear anything. 536 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:14,599 Since we're using so many different meters, 537 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:16,501 I want to go unplug the Wi-Fi system 538 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,970 so the router, the Wi-Fi, everything's shut off, 539 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:21,406 so there's no interference from that at all. 540 00:22:21,406 --> 00:22:24,109 And the other thing I wanted to do before we start 541 00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:26,211 is he told us a story about hangers 542 00:22:26,211 --> 00:22:29,581 that flew out of the laundry room and down the hall. 543 00:22:29,581 --> 00:22:31,183 So I looked in there. There's no hangers. 544 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:33,919 But I found a few, so I'm gonna hang them up right now. 545 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,288 And we have a camera on it, so we'll see if anything moves 546 00:22:36,288 --> 00:22:38,890 or, hopefully, we'll catch it go flying. 547 00:22:39,624 --> 00:22:40,826 As a tactic, 548 00:22:40,826 --> 00:22:44,429 we want to allow Justin to just sit there quietly 549 00:22:44,429 --> 00:22:46,298 and kind of feel the space. 550 00:22:46,298 --> 00:22:47,833 And if there is something that's going to happen, 551 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:49,067 maybe it will reach out, 552 00:22:49,067 --> 00:22:52,104 because, up to this point, he's been talking a lot. 553 00:22:52,104 --> 00:22:54,439 And now, he's almost in a meditative state, 554 00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:57,075 which is very different from when we first got here. 555 00:22:57,075 --> 00:22:58,443 What we're looking for is to see 556 00:22:58,443 --> 00:23:01,446 if he becomes uncomfortable in his own skin, 557 00:23:01,446 --> 00:23:03,982 especially once we introduce the Palo Santo 558 00:23:03,982 --> 00:23:05,250 and the holy water. 559 00:23:39,351 --> 00:23:40,285 [Aaron] Whoa! 560 00:23:52,998 --> 00:23:56,301 - Justin, do you try to communicate... - Yes, sir. 561 00:23:56,301 --> 00:23:57,202 ...with what's in here? 562 00:23:57,969 --> 00:23:59,471 - Not necessarily. - No? 563 00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:00,739 But sometimes I-- 564 00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:02,908 I-- I can't really control it. 565 00:24:02,908 --> 00:24:04,176 I haven't found out how to control it yet. 566 00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:06,211 Things speak to me. 567 00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:08,013 Sometimes it's gargles, 568 00:24:08,013 --> 00:24:09,181 and I can't ever understand it. 569 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:12,417 But sometimes it's a subtle-- a subtle voice. 570 00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:15,020 So I don't go out of my way to communicate with it, 571 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:16,154 with anything, really. 572 00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,290 But when it comes, you know, 573 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:20,859 uh, you ain't got no choice but to hear it. 574 00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:23,228 But to make sense of it is minuscule. 575 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:28,233 What I'm gonna do right now is 576 00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:29,601 I'm gonna move into the kitchen, 577 00:24:29,601 --> 00:24:31,269 and I'm gonna light the Palo Santo. 578 00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:33,104 But we're not gonna make him aware of it. 579 00:24:33,104 --> 00:24:36,174 I'm just gonna light it, and I'm gonna walk down the hall. 580 00:24:36,174 --> 00:24:38,643 And we will see if there's any type of reaction. 581 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:42,481 When I get to him in the room with the Palo Santo lit, 582 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,015 I'll take out the holy water, 583 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:45,717 and we'll see. 584 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,621 How does this make you feel? 585 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:56,328 A little different. 586 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:00,765 How have you felt since you've been in here, 587 00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:01,600 sitting in here? 588 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,801 My chest is heavy. 589 00:25:02,801 --> 00:25:03,869 Heaviness? 590 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:05,070 Yeah. 591 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:07,339 I had tingling in my fingertips. 592 00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:08,440 But my chest is really heavy. 593 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:14,813 Just marking. I heard something to review. 594 00:25:14,813 --> 00:25:18,216 While we were doing the observation experiment with Justin, 595 00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:20,418 I kept hearing on the wall next to me, 596 00:25:20,418 --> 00:25:22,921 it sounded like tapping or scratching. 597 00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:24,055 And I'd point at Jay 598 00:25:24,055 --> 00:25:26,591 to get him to get his microphone pointing that way, 599 00:25:26,591 --> 00:25:27,392 and he could hear it, too. 600 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:35,867 Be vocal about anything you're feeling 601 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,235 or thinking about or-- 602 00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:39,604 Yeah. 603 00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:43,141 I felt a very cool misty wave as you spray, 604 00:25:43,141 --> 00:25:45,343 like... like you've been outside. 605 00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:47,646 So no feelings of aggression or anything like that? 606 00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:49,414 - You just feel calm and cool. - No. 607 00:25:49,414 --> 00:25:51,016 I haven't really felt no aggression. 608 00:25:51,016 --> 00:25:52,250 We were thinking, with Justin, 609 00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:54,819 if he had an attachment, he would get angry 610 00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:55,954 and not like that. 611 00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:57,389 But it was quite the opposite. 612 00:25:58,223 --> 00:25:59,257 [Billy] I think we're good. 613 00:25:59,257 --> 00:26:00,926 I think we can release you and we're gonna continue. 614 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,842 I'm gonna put XLS on and reshoot that. 615 00:26:17,842 --> 00:26:20,679 You guys see if anything comes through the Polterpod. 616 00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,213 [static from device] 617 00:26:25,483 --> 00:26:26,484 Can you speak up? 618 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,856 If you see us, that means we're communicating. 619 00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:43,001 Are you bad? 620 00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:45,637 Are you negative? 621 00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:59,851 Hey, we saw you hiding out over here. 622 00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:02,187 We just wanna help, man. 623 00:27:02,187 --> 00:27:03,688 We're not here to kick you out. 624 00:27:04,689 --> 00:27:06,291 I'm just here to relay a message. 625 00:27:20,138 --> 00:27:21,306 Is there anything you'd like to tell them? 626 00:27:25,944 --> 00:27:27,312 -"Just"? - Yeah. 627 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:28,647 "Just" what? 628 00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:29,781 Wait. What's his name? 629 00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:31,149 Justin? 630 00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:33,785 - Oh! It's saying "Justin." - Dude! 631 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:35,654 It was trying to say "Justin"! 632 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:37,255 It said "Justin"? 633 00:27:37,255 --> 00:27:38,790 - It said, "Just." -"Just." 634 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:40,625 Yeah, I heard that from nerve. 635 00:27:40,625 --> 00:27:42,127 Oh, my God! 636 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,895 Oh, I got chills. 637 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,164 What about Justin? 638 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,301 -"Just" again. -"Just" again. 639 00:27:50,935 --> 00:27:52,303 Yeah, same thing. 640 00:27:52,303 --> 00:27:53,605 [Jay] During the Polterpod session, 641 00:27:53,605 --> 00:27:56,408 I was monitoring and could hear it from nerve center. 642 00:27:56,408 --> 00:27:58,043 It sounded, twice, 643 00:27:58,043 --> 00:28:00,445 the same voice was trying to say "Justin," 644 00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,414 which was-- I thought was pretty interesting. 645 00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:04,516 [static from device] 646 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:07,719 Dude, it said-- we think it said-- 647 00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:09,688 trying to say Justin's name. It kept saying it. 648 00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:11,589 [Billy] You wanna know what's weird? 649 00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:14,325 I haven't felt one single thing 650 00:28:14,325 --> 00:28:15,293 since we've been here. 651 00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:16,327 - No? - Not one. 652 00:28:16,895 --> 00:28:17,796 How about you? 653 00:28:17,796 --> 00:28:18,797 I've heard some things. 654 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:22,701 And then what Aaron and I got was peculiar. 655 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:24,169 - I'm not sure what it was, but-- - I could-- 656 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:26,071 - I heard the voice. I heard it. - Yeah. 657 00:28:26,071 --> 00:28:28,039 I do wanna say, sitting out here at nerve, 658 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:31,242 I can hear a lot of scratching and noises from outside. 659 00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:33,144 But it's super-windy out. 660 00:28:33,144 --> 00:28:35,413 - [Aaron] Mmm. - Oh, so maybe the scratches-- 661 00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:37,182 He did say that wall right there, 662 00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:38,383 it leads to his backyard. 663 00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:40,018 So if there's bushes or something there, 664 00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:41,519 it might be worth us checking out 665 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:42,754 to see if there's any kind of bush 666 00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:44,155 or anything against the house. 667 00:28:44,155 --> 00:28:46,991 We definitely need to send someone in the back to check that out. 668 00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:54,966 Hey, how did we get dragged into going out with Bill? 669 00:28:54,966 --> 00:28:57,001 - [Billy] Someone's gotta-- - Right now, we're here, all three of us. 670 00:28:57,001 --> 00:28:58,136 How did this just happen? 671 00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,404 [Billy] Someone's got to film it. 672 00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:00,638 I got all this. 673 00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:03,775 [Aaron] There was scratching and knocking on the wall, 674 00:29:03,775 --> 00:29:06,044 which later we went outside and checked out. 675 00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:07,912 [Billy] I was expecting to see trees and bushes 676 00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:09,647 that were brushing up against the house, 677 00:29:09,647 --> 00:29:11,116 and there weren't any. 678 00:29:11,116 --> 00:29:12,317 That's the bedroom, dude. 679 00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:13,384 This is the wall. 680 00:29:13,384 --> 00:29:14,886 There's no bush. 681 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:17,355 Hey, Jay, tell me if you can hear this, okay? 682 00:29:22,627 --> 00:29:24,362 Yeah, I could totally hear that. 683 00:29:24,362 --> 00:29:26,164 Okay. Can you hear this? 684 00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:33,605 Do you hear that? 685 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,140 No, I'm not hearing that. 686 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,308 See, that's the only thing that would be the noise, 687 00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:38,309 hitting that. 688 00:29:38,309 --> 00:29:40,245 Yeah, I heard the first stuff you were doing 689 00:29:40,245 --> 00:29:41,780 and it sounded very scratchy. 690 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:42,714 See, that's it. 691 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,082 Okay. 692 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:45,784 - It's gotta be right here. - [camerawoman] So it's not the wind. 693 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:46,751 Right here. 694 00:29:48,219 --> 00:29:49,921 - Yeah. - Yeah, I hear that tapping. 695 00:29:49,921 --> 00:29:51,322 - That's what we were hearing in there. - Mmm-hmm. 696 00:29:51,322 --> 00:29:53,858 Yeah, nothing out here would be hitting the wall. 697 00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:04,669 I'm gonna use the direct link, see if we can get that Justin again, 698 00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:05,670 or "Just." 699 00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:08,239 [static on device] 700 00:30:15,346 --> 00:30:17,749 What's... going on? 701 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:20,418 [camerawoman] They were going wild before, though. 702 00:30:20,418 --> 00:30:22,587 We know that you know that we're here, 703 00:30:22,587 --> 00:30:24,055 so just talk to us. 704 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:26,858 Make those lights light up. 705 00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:29,394 Throw something over. 706 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:31,930 Make the baby toy start playing in the crib. 707 00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:38,570 What more can we do, though? Well-- 708 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,471 We haven't done any digital recorder. 709 00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:42,340 Yeah, so we should at least do that. 710 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,775 We could take full-spectrum photos. 711 00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:46,177 We could take UV photos. 712 00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:49,013 We've been told the very first paranormal activity moment 713 00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,582 in this house was right here. 714 00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:54,819 Is there anything you would like to tell us 715 00:30:55,386 --> 00:30:56,955 about the family? 716 00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:02,894 Is there anything you'd like to tell us about yourself? 717 00:31:07,065 --> 00:31:08,066 We're going to start here. 718 00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:10,235 Is there anything you would like to tell us 719 00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:12,937 about the family? 720 00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:15,139 Is there anything you'd like to tell us about yourself? 721 00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:17,175 - Nothing. - Mmm-mmm. 722 00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:22,447 We know what we saw and heard 723 00:31:22,447 --> 00:31:23,581 in our experiences here. 724 00:31:23,581 --> 00:31:24,849 Thank you. 725 00:31:24,849 --> 00:31:26,184 Is there anything we can do to help you 726 00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:27,352 get out of this area? 727 00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:28,653 We saw you hiding earlier. 728 00:31:28,653 --> 00:31:29,621 Why? 729 00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:31,823 Is there anything you want to tell us 730 00:31:31,823 --> 00:31:33,458 and we can help you with? 731 00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:35,693 Is there anything we can do to help you 732 00:31:35,693 --> 00:31:36,828 get out of this area? 733 00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:38,129 We saw you hiding earlier. 734 00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:39,697 Why? 735 00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:41,499 Is there anything you want to tell us 736 00:31:41,499 --> 00:31:42,800 and we can help you with? 737 00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:43,935 Nothin'. 738 00:31:44,869 --> 00:31:46,070 Who's in this room? 739 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:49,107 What do you want Justin to know? 740 00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:54,512 What's your intent with Justin? 741 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:00,852 Do you want us to leave? 742 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,255 What's your intent with Justin? 743 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:06,424 Do you want us to leave? 744 00:32:07,325 --> 00:32:09,427 - Yeah. Nothing. - Nothing again. 745 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:11,429 - Anything? - Nothing in any of the rooms. 746 00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:12,864 - [Billy] Wow - It's so clear. 747 00:32:12,864 --> 00:32:13,898 - You could tell there's nothing. - [Aaron] Yeah. 748 00:32:13,898 --> 00:32:15,266 You could tell. Nothing. 749 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,703 We ran sessions in the guest room. We went into Gracie's room. 750 00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:21,205 Nothing. And then we even went back into the bedroom 751 00:32:21,205 --> 00:32:23,007 where we had gotten great communication. 752 00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:24,609 Nothing. 753 00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:30,081 Right now, I'm gonna go in there with Paranormal Puck 2. 754 00:32:30,081 --> 00:32:31,716 We don't know if they're intelligent enough 755 00:32:31,716 --> 00:32:33,151 to answer questions. 756 00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:34,118 - Maybe-- - He's claiming they are. 757 00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:35,853 So then let's go ask some questions, then. 758 00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:41,659 Where should we put the puck? 759 00:32:41,659 --> 00:32:43,428 - [camerawoman] On the bed? - [Aaron] On the bed? 760 00:32:43,428 --> 00:32:45,163 - Wait. Where-- - Because that's where she was touched. 761 00:32:45,563 --> 00:32:46,364 Okay. 762 00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:50,935 No response, no response, no response. 763 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:53,271 Let me ask another question. 764 00:32:55,373 --> 00:32:56,808 Do you know Justin? 765 00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:58,009 [digital voice] In. 766 00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:59,110 [Billy] "In." 767 00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:01,379 Do you know Justin? "In." 768 00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:03,381 Something else the Paranormal Puck said tonight 769 00:33:03,381 --> 00:33:05,516 that I didn't put together until later, 770 00:33:05,516 --> 00:33:07,819 hearing what they got on the Polterpod, 771 00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:09,587 where it was trying to say, "Justin." 772 00:33:09,587 --> 00:33:11,656 But it only said, "Just." 773 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:15,159 "I-N" showed up on the Paranormal Puck. 774 00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:16,127 I don't know if that's anything, 775 00:33:16,127 --> 00:33:16,928 but it's kind of weird. 776 00:33:16,928 --> 00:33:18,029 It's finishing the sentence. 777 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:21,466 What did you do to him during this-- tonight? 778 00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,067 Like, what are you-- Hang on. 779 00:33:23,067 --> 00:33:25,670 "Heavy, sad." 780 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:28,539 Dude, didn't he feel a heavy sen-- on his chest? 781 00:33:28,539 --> 00:33:29,474 Yes. 782 00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:30,908 Have you felt since you've been in here? 783 00:33:30,908 --> 00:33:31,909 My chest is heavy. 784 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:34,612 My chest is really heavy. 785 00:33:34,612 --> 00:33:36,047 [camerawoman] That fits the vibe he felt. 786 00:33:36,047 --> 00:33:36,914 [Aaron] Yeah. 787 00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:38,916 Can you give us a name? 788 00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:40,952 [digital voice] Aunt. 789 00:33:40,952 --> 00:33:42,653 [Billy] "Aunt." 790 00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:44,255 - Sandra. -"Sandra"! 791 00:33:44,255 --> 00:33:46,124 "Aunt Sandra." What? 792 00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:47,392 - [Aaron] Hey! When that's-- - Didn't he have a-- 793 00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:49,327 Didn't he say he had a family relative who was-- 794 00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:50,428 Do you realize what just happened? 795 00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:52,764 - Didn't he say that? - I asked it to give me a name. 796 00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,099 And out of all the words, it gave me a name. 797 00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:56,100 "Sandra." 798 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,535 It said, "Aunt Sandra." 799 00:33:58,669 --> 00:33:59,771 It says, "Sandra." 800 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:01,773 [camerawoman] So what if he has an Aunt Sandra? 801 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:02,774 [Billy] I don't know. 802 00:34:08,479 --> 00:34:09,247 There you are. 803 00:34:09,247 --> 00:34:11,182 - Hey, how you doing? - Hey, Justin. 804 00:34:11,182 --> 00:34:12,283 [Zak] How you doing, man? 805 00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:13,718 I'm all right now. How about you? 806 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:14,919 Good, good. 807 00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:18,456 How have things been at your house since we've left? 808 00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:19,857 It comes and goes. It's the same. 809 00:34:19,857 --> 00:34:21,159 You know, uh, 810 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,494 I took a video of an entity the other night 811 00:34:23,494 --> 00:34:26,030 coming through my curtain 812 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:28,099 of my bedroom window as I was sitting at my desk. 813 00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:30,802 My nervous system got paralyzed. 814 00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:33,838 And I had barely made it to my bathroom to shower, 815 00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:36,340 and my girlfriend put the hot water on it 816 00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:39,310 and had to spray my legs to get them to loosen up. 817 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:41,012 But that's just one of many examples. 818 00:34:41,012 --> 00:34:42,713 They come and go, you know. 819 00:34:42,713 --> 00:34:46,818 Okay. Um, you know, this was an interesting case for us, 820 00:34:46,818 --> 00:34:48,820 because obviously even you said 821 00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:50,922 that this has become your life. 822 00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,091 It has overtaken your life. 823 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:57,929 And I feel as though from an observational standpoint, 824 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:00,498 you are really obsessed. 825 00:35:00,498 --> 00:35:02,900 You know, even your family says 826 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:07,171 that you're really obsessed with seeing these ghosts and-- 827 00:35:07,171 --> 00:35:09,407 and capturing them on your camera phone 828 00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:10,741 and things like that. 829 00:35:10,741 --> 00:35:15,913 Now, a lot of what you claimed are spirits and ghosts, 830 00:35:15,913 --> 00:35:19,383 um, you know, we think that we could debunk a lot of that. 831 00:35:19,383 --> 00:35:22,220 Okay? And there was there was something on the mirror 832 00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:24,555 that you said was possibly a spirit. 833 00:35:24,555 --> 00:35:26,858 And then my team was able to see 834 00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:28,559 it was a mark on the mirror. 835 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,163 And then you said that the spirits leave that residue on the mirror. 836 00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:35,166 [Justin] They always leave a smudge when they come through. 837 00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:37,168 It leaves an imprint. 838 00:35:37,168 --> 00:35:39,370 You know, if we were able to debunk something, 839 00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:41,506 you would immediately come back and justify, 840 00:35:41,506 --> 00:35:42,707 "No, that is a ghost." 841 00:35:44,642 --> 00:35:47,178 But let me ask you a question. 842 00:35:47,178 --> 00:35:48,813 - Um, you said that... - Okay. 843 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:51,549 ...what's been going on has questioned your sanity, 844 00:35:51,549 --> 00:35:54,018 and you're a very sound person. 845 00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:55,486 - Yes. - Um, 846 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:58,489 with what has been happening at your home, 847 00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:01,526 has your family, your girlfriend, 848 00:36:01,526 --> 00:36:02,827 your daughter, 849 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:06,797 are they being attacked by forces there at the house? 850 00:36:06,797 --> 00:36:08,733 Are they being scratched? 851 00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:10,768 Are they in a state of oppression? 852 00:36:10,768 --> 00:36:12,303 Are they depressed? 853 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:15,306 Are they going through really bad times 854 00:36:15,306 --> 00:36:18,376 that you think are attributed to this spirit? 855 00:36:18,376 --> 00:36:20,745 Yes, they've both been attacked in the past 856 00:36:20,745 --> 00:36:22,046 and their emotions-- 857 00:36:22,046 --> 00:36:23,047 - Because it was weird. - Uh-- 858 00:36:23,047 --> 00:36:25,950 Once we got there, you know, your daughter, 859 00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:27,185 your girlfriend, a lot of them, 860 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,087 were just saying more about how it's all on you 861 00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:32,056 and how you have an obsession to this. 862 00:36:32,056 --> 00:36:34,258 And it's that obsession with it 863 00:36:34,258 --> 00:36:36,194 is what's driving them crazy, 864 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,729 not necessarily the spirits. 865 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:48,506 Here's the thing. This is a difficult case, 866 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:50,441 because I'm not gonna come here and say, 867 00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:52,210 "You know what, Justin? 868 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,644 There's no ghost in your house. 869 00:36:53,644 --> 00:36:54,946 You're crazy." 870 00:36:54,946 --> 00:36:56,247 I'm not gonna say that 871 00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:57,848 because I don't personally know you. 872 00:36:57,848 --> 00:36:59,250 And I wasn't there, 873 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:02,620 nor was my team for every other event. 874 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:05,389 We were only there for one short time. 875 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:08,859 But in that short time, we can pick up a lot. 876 00:37:08,859 --> 00:37:11,529 We've done so many of these types of cases 877 00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:15,566 that we're very in tune with what we perceive 878 00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:17,168 when we arrive there, 879 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:19,604 your interviews, your mannerisms, 880 00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:22,740 the way my team feels in your environment, 881 00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:25,509 the evidence that we get on our equipment. 882 00:37:25,509 --> 00:37:29,413 And we just didn't document a whole lot. 883 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:31,849 However, I'm not telling you, Justin, 884 00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:33,684 that there's no spirits in your house. 885 00:37:33,684 --> 00:37:37,655 You do live on land that is very much cursed 886 00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,690 attributed to dark history. 887 00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:44,428 And you could very well be experiencing an attachment. 888 00:37:47,832 --> 00:37:50,668 There is something that we did find 889 00:37:50,668 --> 00:37:52,203 that I want to share with you. 890 00:37:52,203 --> 00:37:54,105 And I want to ask you about this. 891 00:37:54,872 --> 00:37:58,075 Do you have any aunts? 892 00:37:58,075 --> 00:38:00,478 Yes, I have one, Sandy, 893 00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:01,312 or Sandra. 894 00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:07,518 Can you give us a name? 895 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:09,520 [digital voice] Aunt. 896 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,621 [Billy] "Aunt." 897 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:12,623 - Sandra. - Pause it. 898 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,294 Billy. 899 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:19,130 How does this Paranormal Puck 2 device do this? 900 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:20,398 I am mind-blown. 901 00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:24,402 This tops all Paranormal Puck evidence we've ever captured. 902 00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:26,003 Well, how does that make any sense? 903 00:38:26,003 --> 00:38:27,772 Like, what does this mean? 904 00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:29,840 [digital voice] Aunt Sandra. 905 00:38:31,909 --> 00:38:33,678 What does that mean, Justin? 906 00:38:33,678 --> 00:38:36,547 Why is your aunt's name coming through? 907 00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:40,084 You know, when my mother passed in 2010, 908 00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:41,619 my whole life growing up, 909 00:38:41,619 --> 00:38:43,688 she always told me that, you know, when she passed, 910 00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:45,990 not to worry about nothing and dah, dah, dah. 911 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,124 But when she was-- 912 00:38:47,124 --> 00:38:48,726 when she passed, I wasn't around. 913 00:38:48,726 --> 00:38:52,463 So my Aunt Sandy was given power of attorney. 914 00:38:52,463 --> 00:38:56,167 All of a sudden, everything is just gone. 915 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:57,568 - Wow. - So it's just gonna be like a question 916 00:38:57,568 --> 00:38:59,537 that me and my daughter has been talking about. 917 00:38:59,537 --> 00:39:01,906 Why would they hide or squander all, you know, 918 00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:03,107 the money, and this and that? 919 00:39:03,107 --> 00:39:04,475 I have chills right now. 920 00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:06,344 But to top all this off, 921 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,512 Billy, I want you to play for him the, uh... 922 00:39:08,512 --> 00:39:10,014 I am chilled up. 923 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:12,483 Can you play with him the Ovilus right now? 924 00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:14,652 - I want you to play that right now. - Yes. 925 00:39:14,652 --> 00:39:17,221 [Aaron] What did you do to him during this-- tonight? 926 00:39:17,221 --> 00:39:18,756 Like, what are you-- Hang on. 927 00:39:18,756 --> 00:39:21,425 "Heavy, sad." 928 00:39:21,425 --> 00:39:24,328 Dude, didn't he feel a heavy sen-- on his chest? 929 00:39:24,328 --> 00:39:25,429 Yes. 930 00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:26,731 [Billy] How have you felt since you've been in here? 931 00:39:26,731 --> 00:39:27,698 My chest is heavy. 932 00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:30,167 My chest is really heavy. 933 00:39:30,167 --> 00:39:32,903 The remarkable intelligence and relevance 934 00:39:32,903 --> 00:39:34,438 that we received through this, 935 00:39:34,438 --> 00:39:36,574 Aunt Sandra, "heavy, sad." 936 00:39:37,108 --> 00:39:39,143 Is this your mother? 937 00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:42,146 Is this your mother trying to tell you, 938 00:39:42,146 --> 00:39:43,581 "Justin, Aunt Sandra." 939 00:39:43,581 --> 00:39:45,850 Something to do with Aunt Sandra. 940 00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:48,552 When is the last time you spoke to your Aunt Sandra? 941 00:39:48,552 --> 00:39:51,422 Probably a year and a half, at least. 942 00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:53,057 Are you guys on bad terms? 943 00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:56,927 Yeah. Losing everything that was really rightfully mine 944 00:39:56,927 --> 00:39:58,662 and my-- and my daughter's, you know. 945 00:39:59,930 --> 00:40:01,232 I feel she did me wrong. 946 00:40:05,169 --> 00:40:07,238 I'm almost thinking that your mother 947 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,106 is trying to reach out to you, 948 00:40:09,106 --> 00:40:12,510 and she wants you to talk to your Aunt Sandra 949 00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:14,945 and to try to patch all of this up. 950 00:40:14,945 --> 00:40:18,015 Because it might be a conflict 951 00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:20,684 between our living world and the spirit world. 952 00:40:20,684 --> 00:40:23,020 And your mother doesn't like seeing you like this 953 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:25,856 and seeing the relationship like that. 954 00:40:25,856 --> 00:40:27,024 I'm theorizing, 955 00:40:27,024 --> 00:40:29,660 but I have good intuition based on this stuff. 956 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:33,464 Sometimes when a living person has some unfinished business 957 00:40:33,464 --> 00:40:37,401 or some type of conflict going on with another living person 958 00:40:37,401 --> 00:40:39,203 that's directly related, 959 00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:42,339 it creates this triangle of not good energy. 960 00:40:42,339 --> 00:40:46,110 And when you have that, it can attract other things, 961 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:48,746 just like in a haunted house when you get bad spirits. 962 00:40:48,746 --> 00:40:49,880 Sometimes it doesn't-- 963 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,949 you don't have to have a bad person that died there. 964 00:40:51,949 --> 00:40:53,684 You just have to have a bad event 965 00:40:53,684 --> 00:40:56,020 with a lot of anger, with a lot of bad vibes, 966 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:57,621 and that can attract this energy 967 00:40:57,621 --> 00:40:58,989 because they feed off of that. 968 00:40:58,989 --> 00:41:00,024 I agree. I agree. 969 00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:02,793 So, I don't know. Maybe call your aunt Sandra. 970 00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:05,296 Maybe try to get it all out on the table 971 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,331 and maybe some type of resolution, 972 00:41:07,331 --> 00:41:10,267 even though you don't cure this 100%, 973 00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:13,471 the attempt that you made to get this off your chest 974 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,639 might then kind of make your mother 975 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,641 a little bit more at ease. 976 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:21,078 So I would say possibly call your Aunt Sandra 977 00:41:21,078 --> 00:41:22,546 because this means something. 978 00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:25,282 Yeah. I'll reach out to her and see. 979 00:41:25,282 --> 00:41:26,617 - Okay, try that. - Absolutely. 980 00:41:26,617 --> 00:41:28,352 And we'll check back with you, Justin. 981 00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:29,854 - Okay? - Awesome. 982 00:41:29,854 --> 00:41:31,021 All right, Justin. 983 00:41:31,021 --> 00:41:32,723 - Thank you. - All right, buddy. 984 00:41:32,723 --> 00:41:33,691 Thanks, Justin.