- ♪ MTV ♪
- I'm Tami Roman.
I have been cheated on before.
You [bleep] my man when I was married to him.
I even wrote a book about it.
And I've made it my mission to help
suspicious lovers catch their cheating partners in the act.
Hold up.
- And you brought this to my place of business?
How dare you? What is this?
- Oh!
Together with my relationship coaches...
- You got to tell her about the insecurities that you have.
That's how y'all work through it.
- This is a situation where you have to say,
I'm gonna step up and do what's right.
- And stealthy investigation team...
- They think they slick.
Well, we slicker.
- We won't stop until we find the truth.
Cheaters, beware.
- I'm [bleep] torn.
I love them both.
- You got to fundamentally say, I'm gonna be different.
- Who the [bleep] do you think you are?
- Why the [bleep] y'all got cameras in my crib?
What the [bleep] is wrong with you?
- Tell me, tell me!
- Nobody should think they're better
than anybody else because y'all all [bleep] been played.
And that's just the truth.
This is "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- ♪ Top hit, been on 101 ♪
♪ You can keep the ladies, dog ♪
♪ We gon' still be them ones, got them people on my back ♪
♪ Yeah, I carry a ton ♪
♪ Girl sitting on my lap while I play... ♪
- Hello, hello.
- Hey, how are you doing? - I am doing well.
How are you? - Good, nice to meet you.
- Pleasure to meet you.
Jamison. - Yes.
Now listen here. - Yes.
I'm happy that I'm sitting across from you, which,
to me, is kind of strange, because usually,
it's a female sitting opposite me.
Men usually don't come.
- The reason why I am here is
because of my relationship, you know.
- But I don't want you to tell me what's happening right now.
I want you to tell me how you guys got together.
- So it all started ten years ago.
Juliette, she found me on a dating site.
- Oh.
- Juliette reeled me in. - Mm.
- So when she actually reached out to me,
I gave her the words, like, hey, listen.
This is what it is, you know?
So I just say, hey, either we be together--
- Instantly when she-- - Instantly.
- As soon as she reached out, you said--
- Yeah. So we got together.
- And you liked what you saw.
- Beautiful, everything about her.
We hit it off.
It was damned near love at first sight.
- Wow. - You know?
Now we got three beautiful kids together.
- Aw.
Well, tell me about Juliette.
- Great personality, beautiful woman, in and out.
- Tell me about her upbringing, about her family.
- She was raised by a single mom.
Her father was never around.
So she doesn't know how men work.
- So give me an example of what you're talking about.
I feel attacked right now because, you know,
I come from a single parent household as well.
- Yeah.
- So I want to hear this example.
- It's like I can do a good deed as a fiancé.
And it's-- that's not good enough.
Here's nice flowers.
Here's candy.
OK, just put it in the vase.
- OK.
- I want the excitement to know that,
like, hey, the relationship is there.
The excitement is still there.
- So nine years later, has the chemistry been the same
throughout this nine years?
- It had its ups and downs.
It kind of really took a hit after our third child was born.
The chemistry really started depleting.
- Why do you think that is?
- Uh, a lot of things changed.
She's been going to the gym a lot.
She lost over 90 pounds.
- OK.
- Which is a good thing, which I compliment her for.
But you know, when you get the attention--
- Even though she's lost 90 pounds, as you say,
the 90 pounds wasn't a hindrance to her
getting what she wanted.
She seemed very self-assured and confident
because she hit you up, you know, and was like, hey.
- Yes. - You know what I'm saying?
So basically, what I'm getting is you're saying,
now she acting different.
- Yes.
With the weight loss comes other guys.
Getting phone calls, 2:00 in the morning--
- Oh. - From a certain person.
- Let me tell you something,
if my phone rang at 2:00 in the morning,
and my husband feels like it's another man on that phone,
we're gonna be arguing--
- Yeah. - All the way into the morning.
- And I think that's any relationship, right?
So then all of a sudden, the same person
that's calling her, she's hanging out with.
- You know the person?
- Yes. - Who is the person?
- His name is Hiram.
- Who was Hiram?
- Supposedly, her damned hair stylist.
He is-- - How long has she known Hiram?
- She's known him longer than me.
They actually went to high school together.
- Wow, so Hiram was before y'all
got together nine years ago.
- Yes.
- Child, 'cause now I got to ask these questions.
So has Hiram been a part of your,
like, family dynamic.
- Yes, he has.
He has been over for birthday parties.
- Events and stuff like that.
- You know, so like, if we throw a birthday--
- So you know Hiram. - Yes, I do.
So now it's 2:00 in the morning here,
she's going to hang out with him.
They've gone out a few times, where it's just like,
where are you going?
- Without you? - Without me, yes.
When that first phone call came in,
I asked her what was going on.
She never explained.
She just said, oh, it's just asking me what
he wants me to do with my hair.
- And that's the excuse every time?
- Yes, it's, what do you want-- he's just asking.
- For months?
You let that excuse go for months?
- I don't actually see her physically cheating,
so I can't accuse her of doing something
I don't know if she's doing.
- Right.
- And we don't see each other, really.
- Why is that?
- I work Sunday through Wednesday.
She works Thursdays through Saturday.
So we barely cross paths.
So all of those days really starts
to play in the fact that--
- Yeah, wear on the relationship.
- So I don't see her the way I want to see her.
- What I'm gathering is, there was a sense of honesty
and trust between you two.
And now you're feeling like that is being jeopardized
in some capacity.
- Yes.
- Have y'all ever talked about what the future
looks like for you guys?
- I've been engaged to her for nine years.
- You know that's a long engagement, right?
- It is, it is. It's not me, and it's her.
Every time I say, when do we start planning for a wedding?
"Oh, whenever we save more money.
Whenever we get the house that we want to get."
Right? But it's been dragging.
- Every single time... - Every single time.
- She gives you something.
- She gives me some type of an excuse.
- You've invested a lot of time into this relationship.
- Absolutely.
- So no real answers about when or if
you're going to get married, that definitely
is a red flag in this moment.
Is there anything else she does that you
would consider a red flag?
- She doesn't wear her engagement ring.
- Oh.
- And one of the other things, too,
is she posts Hiram on her social media accounts
versus to posting me.
I don't get that.
And I'm with you.
So I'm trying to figure this whole situation out.
And that's why I came to you, so...
- I'm happy you did.
And I'm gonna do my best to try to help you.
What I want to ask you is, because, you know,
you be at work, and then she be at home.
Would you allow us to put cameras?
- Yeah, yeah, absolutely, just so I can catch her,
because I really need this.
- I hope it shows nothing.
I hope that her friendship with Hiram
really is just a friendship.
I hope that nothing is going on and that you guys
can rebuild the relationship...
- I hope so. - That you guys started with.
- I hope so.
- 'Cause there are three kids involved,
and that's always a big factor to me.
So I'll get back with you, and I'll call you in
as soon as I find out something.
- Absolutely. - OK?
- Thank you so much. - You're welcome...
- I appreciate it, thank you. - So much.
- ♪ Tell everybody you next up ♪
♪ Put a smile on your face and keep your head up, head up ♪
- Today, we'll be investigating Juliette.
Her boyfriend of ten years gave Ms. Tami a call
and wanted to have her followed.
So today we'll be going to their home
and following her around to see what she does.
- ♪ Put a smile on your face ♪
♪ And keep your head up, head up ♪
♪ Tell everybody you next up ♪
♪ Put a smile on your face and keep your head up, head up ♪
[hip-hop music]
- All right, I'ma give her a little bit of time.
I already called my surveillance team
and told them they need to go ahead and pull up
as soon as we leave and get that house bugged,
so we can have eyes and ears on the inside.
We're gonna follow her.
- ♪ Mess around, let you hit the clouds ♪
♪ Next thing you know, you end up on the ground ♪
♪ Feeling like you risked it all ♪
♪ Aim high, then you shoot the ball ♪
♪ It's a back, go and get it ♪
- So I've been following Juliette for a while.
It looks like they're pulling into a gym.
I'ma pull up, and I'm gonna park right here to see
and watch what she's doing.
I don't think I'm gonna follow her in
because I don't have a gym outfit.
So we just gonna sit outside.
And we gon' wait for her to come outside.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
OK, we got action. All right.
So it looks like she's talking to somebody.
I'm gonna zoom in on her.
She's talking to somebody.
It doesn't really look harmful.
- Ooh, they hugging, though.
That might be a little across the line.
I don't know.
[tense music]
That could be something.
That could be nothing, but we're gonna follow her
and figure it out.
- ♪ Midas touch, bling, I'ma make it go ♪
♪ Holy moly, told them I can make it flow ♪
- Tami told me that it's Jamison's time
to be at home with the kids.
And Juliette may be going to go meet up
with some girlfriends tonight.
So we are about to see what our girl, Juliette, is up to.
- ♪ We going up, elevated dose ♪
♪ Cause what's a brother staying so adjacent for? ♪
- It looks like somebody is out here to pick her up.
Let me see.
So it looks like she done turned into Cinderella.
She is the belle of the [bleep] ball.
She is coming to the ride share.
Let's hurry up and go before they take off and leave.
[dramatic music]
So, normally, whenever I do my nighttime investigations,
I try to get a little dressed up.
There's no telling where we're going.
So I put on something that's universal.
So it looks like they pulled over to somebody's house.
Uh-uh. Who is this?
She is here with another man.
And this is not even the man from the gym.
♪ ♪
They pulled in to a Latin club.
Oh, wow.
They're holding hands and [bleep].
This right here is a camera.
So I'll be able to see everything
that goes on on the inside.
I am wearing a wire.
That way, I can get audio.
Let's jump right into it.
And let's go see what's going on on the inside.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
They were hugging, and he dropped it like it was hot.
So that's definitely some sort of relationship.
So I'm gonna follow them and see where they go tonight.
- ♪ All I ever wanted was that new Ferrari ♪
♪ Or that Aston Martin, I ain't got no time to party ♪
♪ Counting all this money ♪
♪ You would think that I'm a banker ♪
- So I pulled over right here and cut my lights off
because I see them pulling up to the house.
So I wonder if she's gonna be going
to his house for the night.
Because remember, she's supposed to be with the girls.
Oh, my [bleep] gosh.
She is going inside the damn house.
♪ ♪
You got to be [bleep] kidding me.
- ♪ Walk into the party looking handsome, handsome ♪
♪ I'm just here to throw a couple shots up away ♪
- So it's day three, and our girl Juliette
spent about an hour at that guy's house last night.
So he could be, you know, a secret lover or a friend.
We won't know until we get done with this investigation.
So it looks like she turned down the street.
So we gon' pull up and back up just a little bit.
[tense hip-hop music]
♪ ♪
Ooh, it's the same man from yesterday.
You got me [bleep] up.
OK. They're hugging.
I'm finna go in, and I'm finna find out,
because this is not looking too good.
Today, I'm gonna be using my handy-dandy purse camera.
There's also audio on this camera.
So we'll be able to see what they're talking about.
♪ ♪
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- They're still holding hands.
Oh, my [bleep] gosh.
This is definitely a lover.
♪ ♪
I overheard them saying that they're going to the house.
And my team already got the house rigged.
♪ ♪
Let's see what we have going on.
[dramatic music]
I'm gonna open up my app to see what's going on inside.
- No, he did not just smack her ass.
Oh, and they kissing.
Wow.
[Oren Major's "PACE"]
- ♪ Hey, I got my pace up ♪
♪ They get left every time they try to race us ♪
♪ They looking down, it never faze us ♪
♪ At my lowest, I knew what was... ♪
- Well, hello there, Mr. Ken.
- Yes. How are you?
Good to see you. - I am doing well.
How about you? - I'm doing well.
- I'm happy to hear that.
Hi, Jamison.
- Hey, Tami. How you doing?
- How are you? - Good.
- This is Coach Ken. - How you doing, Jamison?
- Have a seat over here.
[sighs]
Thank you for coming back today.
So when we spoke, I told you that I would take on the case,
and I would get my investigation team
out there to surveil Juliette.
- Yes. - They did that.
- OK.
- I have to make sure that you, in fact,
want to see this footage.
- Yes. I need to, but I'm anxious.
- OK.
Here we go.
They followed her,
and she ended up at the gym.
- OK.
- And when she came out,
she came out with this person, gave them a hug.
- Oh, that was a little too damned friendly.
- Well, let me tell you who it was.
They were a trainer.
There's nothing going on.
He then moved on to his next client.
- OK, that's a good sign.
- That next evening, we surveilled her.
She ended up here.
And then this gentleman--
- That's Hiram.
- And then they ended up at the club.
- Are they-- are they holding hands?
- They were holding hands.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- Why is she holding his hand while [bleep] dancing?
- Mm-hmm.
There's a lot of close PDA interaction,
whispering in the ear.
- Giving her a [bleep] lap dance?
- Yeah.
- What the [bleep]?
- They leave the club.
And then as you can see, they go back to this house.
- What the [bleep]?
That's [bleep] ridiculous.
- They do go inside for a while.
And she went back home.
- That's way too extra for me, in my opinion.
- Mm-hmm. I agree.
Well, let's see more.
This is the next day of surveillance.
They go have lunch.
- This is [bleep] ridiculous.
- So we followed them to your house.
Then they start cooking, making a meal together.
- Did he just [bleep] ki-- what the [bleep] is that?
Did he just kiss her?
- Kermit?
- Wow, what the [bleep]?
See, so can you stop this real quick, please?
- Yes, I can.
- So basically, I'm getting played.
I am.
- I think you should watch it all.
- Yes. Yes, please.
- OK. Let's see it all.
- I'm sorry, Tami. You go ahead, yes.
- This is bull[bleep].
- What the [bleep] can he gave you?
- Get the [bleep] out of here.
- And now he's [bleep] grabbing her.
- What the [bleep]?
- Wait, babe--
- So we don't know how many times something done went
down on that kitchen counter.
- What the [bleep], man?
This is bull[bleep].
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Ah, man. - Let me talk...
- What the [bleep]? - For a second.
I know this is tough to see.
- Nine years, man. - I get it.
- Nine years.
And that's what I get in return.
- No, I get it. - I got a family with her.
- It bothers me.
Let's find out everything, so that we
can help you move forward in any way
that you want to move forward in.
- Please, because I need to figure
this whole [bleep] out now.
- All right.
- Because I really want to get down to the bottom of this.
- OK, come on back in. Come on back in.
Let's get to the bottom of it.
- I apologize for that scene. - It's OK.
- I apologize.
- Did you want to see the end?
- Yeah, I would like to see that.
Yeah.
That's when I [bleep] called her
to tell her I was coming home.
And he was there?
- Wow.
Wow.
- Now, that nonfactor triggered me, OK?
I don't like that phrase at all, OK?
You cannot be called a nonfactor
in your damn relationship.
- In my damn house, at that.
- How does it make you feel when you hear
her agree with him saying,
"He can't do all the things I do for you?"
- Which is bull[bleep].
There's nothing he can give her that I can't give her.
- And how does Hiram act when he come around y'all?
- He just acts as if he's a friend.
He never gave me any reason to suspect him doing anything.
The only time I seen him is when he's came to events,
to my kids' birthdays.
So I'm just trying to figure out how the hell
did it get to this, you know?
- He asked her, "When are we gonna be together?"
And she said, "Well, not right now."
Is it because of the children?
Is it because of our dynamic of the family?
That's what we need to find out from her.
- It's because he's a babysitter.
Because you're the person who's with the kids.
- This [bleep] would bother me.
I'm just--this real talk.
- I'm furious.
- She's laughing about him making jokes
about the father of her children!
Not only is he grabbing your ass, OK?
But you let him insult me, and you laugh at it.
- It's [bleep] ridiculous.
I want to get to the bottom of this.
- I'ma give you two options.
You can have a conversation with Hiram.
And then y'all can team up and go to her together.
Or we wait until they're together,
and then you go to take both of them down
in an undercover ambush.
- I want to take them both down.
Everybody's going down.
Nine years, three kids, and you let some bastard
come out of nowhere,
and it's your hairstylist,
and get to get away with the [bleep] that he get away with?
I got to take them both down.
That's just how it's going to go.
- OK.
- ♪ Uh, never, uh, run it back ♪
♪ Get it in, get a chair, grab a bag, I ain't gonna... ♪
- OK. So I got a call from the team.
- OK.
- And they have Hiram and Juliette together.
- OK.
- So I called Jamison and told him
that we're coming to pick him up.
- ♪ It's up, I ain't never falling out for nothing ♪
- Here he is.
Hi, Jamison. - How's it going?
- Sorry to pull you off of work.
- Yeah, I'm just going crazy over here.
I can't think straight, you know.
- Yeah. They are together.
But we want to just talk to you about how
you should approach this moment.
I don't agree with the cheating.
I do, however, have the wherewithal
to understand nine years, three kids,
and what you guys have put into it.
And if that is valuable to you,
then afford her a little grace in not communicating
what was going on with her.
You understand what I'm saying? - Absolutely.
- If she's willing to apologize and say,
"I do want to be with you."
- It just has to be built off of trust.
- Correct.
- Because if I can't trust her, there's no relationship, right?
- Right.
It takes two to reconcile any relationship.
- I hear you on that one.
[tense music]
- OK.
It looks like we are here.
Our investigation team, once they found out
where they were, they were able to put in some decoys inside
so that we can see everything that's going on,
on this monitor.
- OK. - OK?
- I would like to see this.
- Shopping like they're a couple.
- They are.
- Yeah, I can't take no more. - Wait, can't what?
- He slapped her on the ass. - I can't take no more.
- Let me let you out.
- OK. Remember what we said.
- Yo, what is this?
What is this [bleep]?
What are you shopping for Hiram for?
- For clothes.
- Why the [bleep] cameras here? - Yo, shut the [bleep] up.
A hairstylist that's kissing you,
and then slapping you on your ass?
That's a hair stylist? - I do more than just that.
- Shut the [bleep] up. - Shut me up.
Shut me up.
- My [bleep], real talk, real talk.
- You brought all this [bleep]?
You brought all this here?
- This is between me and my fiancée.
Mind your business. All right?
You need to give me a reason why you
doing this with this [bleep].
- On to bigger and better.
- For what, [bleep]? [bleep] you.
- Explain why, yo.
- Tell him why. - Bro, stop talking, bro.
- Come on, Tami, let's go.
- Been there too. - Yo, mind your business, bro.
Are you my fiancée? - That is my business.
- Yo. - Control this clown, bro.
- Look at me and look at you! - And she's here.
- Look at me and look at you.
- She's here. - My [bleep], stop.
- She's here, bro.
- Hello.
How are you both doing?
- Shock. - Oh, I can imagine.
Juliette... - Yes.
- My name is Tami Roman. - Hi.
- And you are on "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- That's why all the [bleep] cameras here.
- Yo, shut the [bleep] up and let her talk.
- Bro, shut me up. Shut me up.
Calm down, calm down. Jamison came to me.
And he felt that there might be some infidelity
and wanted to find that out.
So we're here to just try to get some answers.
I want to introduce you to relationship expert
Coach Ken Canion...
- Hi.
- Who is here to help navigate this situation.
OK.
So, Jamison, you had some questions for Juliette.
- I just want to know why.
Why?
- He gives me the attention
that I've been asking you to give me.
- I'm working a lot. What attention?
- I understand. - Explain.
- When I lost my weight, Hiram was like,
"Oh, my God, you look so good."
Like, he gave me the compliments.
- And I didn't?
- No, when I would go out to the club,
you'd be like, why are you wearing that?
Why are you wearing this?
- It doesn't make sense because you never
explained anything about that.
- Because I fulfill her needs.
- What are you talking about?
- You knew to come--listen.
- I know what it is, bro.
- Nobody control me.
What you talking about, bro?
- Bro! - I've been around.
- Bro.
- How long has this been going on?
- I've been around.
- Bro, I'm talking to her!
Mind your business, [bleep]!
- Kids' birthdays-- I've been around your kids.
- Mind your business, bro.
- Your kids call me Daddy.
- They called you-- - I've been around--
I've been-- - No, my [bleep]?
- Why would you say that?
- Juliette, please tell me that's not true.
Please, tell me that the kids don't call him Daddy.
- What you want to do? What you want to do?
- I'm telling you.
- Yeah, I have your number.
- Matter of fact, pull up
to where you lay your head at.
- So go ahead. - I'll be there.
- Let's go. - We got to get him.
- Uh-oh, uh-oh.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.
- [bleep] - Uh-oh.
- [bleep] - Oh, Lord.
He done knocked Ken down.
- [bleep] - Ken.
You all right?
- What the [bleep]?
We're going to get these [bleep] answers.
And I'm not gonna get my damned arm
or leg broke for [bleep] with this.
He says he's been around your children?
They called him Dad.
Is that true?
- They only called you Dad once.
That's it.
- They call me Daddy Hiram. - Keep talking.
Keep talking about my kids, my [bleep].
- Go ahead.
- I'll be here.
- Ooh, my goodness gracious, that caught me off guard.
- I'm nervous, still. I'm, like, shaking.
- Listen.
You've been with this man for ten years.
Nine, you've been engaged.
You always have an excuse as to why
you don't want to marry him.
What's the real reason why?
- So when I was pregnant,
he cheated on me the last three months.
Did he tell you that?
- What?
- The same night I found out, I gave birth.
And I gave birth at home in the toilet.
- He did not tell me that.
- At that point, I just lost it.
- Let me get this timeline together.
You guys met. You get together.
You get engaged.
There was no infidelity child one, child two.
Then child three, you find out that he cheated.
- Right, mm-hmm. - You were pregnant.
You go into labor.
- Yep, because of me finding out--
- Because you're finding out that he cheated.
Now, Jamison.
- So it's two sides to a story, right?
I had a doctor's appointment that day.
And she said, you're only 3 centimeters open.
You can go home and go to sleep.
I was like, OK, that's fine.
Then he's like, "Oh, I have to go to work."
He left his iWatch, and the phone was ringing.
It's a female. And I'm like, who the [bleep]?
She's like, "Oh, I'm Jamison's girlfriend,
this, this, and that."
And like, the last day of my pregnancy,
you want to cheat on me?
I think that's so disgusting, as a man.
- It really and truly is.
- It's been going on. This ain't new.
Ask him. I've been at his house.
I've been at his kids' birthdays.
- Yeah, but he thought you were just the hairstylist.
- Exactly. - Because he's dumb.
- A regular, typical [bleep] hairstylist.
- You're dumb.
- If you were in this man's shoes,
can you see why this man is acting that way?
You've been around his kids.
You've been with his woman.
Have you and this woman been having sex?
Then tell him. Have you?
- Yeah. - You've been having sex?
- So now you know.
- He didn't tell me that he cheated,
but he said he noticed changes in you.
You don't wear your ring, which you don't have on now.
- Because it was fake. It turned my finger green.
- Oh, we got a lot to talk about.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Jamison tells me that he brings you roses.
And you're just kind of like, "OK, put them on the table."
- Because I've been asking for that since we started,
you know what I mean, from the beginning.
Why do it now?
- And you don't look at it as, well, he's trying.
- I do, but it's like, it's too late.
And I still don't understand what
went on with him and the girl.
He only said they were talking for three months.
I mean, you guys work together. I mean, come on.
It must have been more than three months.
- We're gonna find that out.
We're gonna go over there and address that for sure
because he did not tell me that.
So you've taken Hiram around your family.
- I do, I do because he's so great with my kids.
My kids love him.
They love him, and he takes treats them nice.
Like I said, he compliments me.
He gives me everything I want and need, you know?
- All that sneakiness and, you know,
hiding out, and dibble and dabbling,
and trying to have your cake and eat it too.
That's a bunch of negative energy.
And when you put that out,
that's what's gonna come back to you.
It would be so much easier to say,
"I do not want to be with you."
Come on.
Let's see what's going on with this.
- I take his kids to Disney parks.
- You keep running off at that mouth, bro.
- Come here.
Let me talk to y'all two.
Sit down.
I want y'all to sit next to each other.
Now, you came in.
And I feel like you did yourself and me a disservice
because the way you presented it,
it was like you had done nothing wrong.
And out of the clear blue sky,
she just went out and did this.
And that's not really what happened.
Before you guys had your third child,
you went and cheated.
- The only time I spent time with the woman was at work.
I talked to her, nothing else.
- All you did was talk.
- That's all we did. - It was three months.
There was no intimacy.
It was just emotional cheating.
You cut all that off, right? - All ties.
- It's been cut off.
- It's been cut off for a long time.
- So what else is it that you want to know?
- I want to know, what does she have that I didn't have?
Like, what was she giving you that I didn't give you?
- Honestly, it was the attention.
At that point, I got the pleasure out of saying,
OK, I finally got a girl that still thinks I'm attractive.
- Now come to find out, she want the same thing you want.
She wants you to go, "Damn, babe, you look good."
- Right.
- "Ooh, you lost five more? OK!"
- You want to be with her? - I'm gonna be with her.
- OK, and you're willing to step in and do the things
that he's not doing.
- They don't got that communication.
They don't got that connection me and her have.
- And then you gave me the fake ring, so like--
- What if that's all I could afford at that time?
- I look at it, the fake ring is like fake love.
- It's been turning the girl's finger green.
That's why she don't wear the [bleep].
And you're trying to make it seem like she don't wear it
because she's out here running around
with every Tom, Dick, and Harry.
She don't wear it because it was fake.
- And you know I'm the type, I can wait.
- Babe, why so much conversation?
- Hold on, Hiram. Can you relax?
- Hold on a minute, Hiram. - Wrap it up.
Wrap it up. Wrap it up.
- You ain't gon' rush me out of here.
- You're the one that brought all these cameras.
I just want my girl. - I sure am the one.
- Just let them talk it out because if she yours,
it ain't gonna matter.
- Jamison, the problem is that you two
have not tried to really sit down
and communicate with each other.
- I'm not saying you did this on purpose.
But it look like you saw an opening,
and you stepped right in and closed the gap.
- She knows everything about me.
I know everything about her.
It ain't just like, we started a week ago.
Like, this [bleep] been going on for three [bleep] years.
- This is a real talk, man to man.
- Mm-hmm. - You love her?
- I do. - You do?
- Since high school, I mean...
- For real? - I've always loved her.
Yeah, she knows it.
She always loved me too.
- Do you feel like you love Hiram?
- I do. - You do.
- Well, I can say I could learn to work on things.
But, for me, I just want to know
if you're still willing to be--
still be with me at this point.
- I really have to think.
- So let's all get back together and talk.
Were you able to have a conversation with him?
- Yes, I was.
I talked to them both.
He told me everything that I needed to know.
- But did he tell you that he cheated on me?
- What did you just say?
- He did cheat on me on the last baby we had.
- So you were really lying to us.
- I felt I was just too embarrassed to say that.
And I tried to be a man and make up for it.
And I couldn't get the time of the day for her to do it.
So she wanted to take it, and run with it,
and felt like it was OK for her to play tit for tat.
- So are you telling me the reason why
you are with this gentleman is because he cheated on you?
- Yeah.
- OK.
Everybody, have a seat.
Nobody likes when we roll up in the building.
But the main objective is so that we
can get answers for the person who comes to see me.
He couldn't understand why things had changed.
And we find out that the reason things changed
was because he changed them.
In relationships, it cannot be a tit for tat.
Hiram, where I'm disappointed with you--
this was your friend.
And I feel like you shouldn't have crossed that boundary.
- She opened the door, and I walked in.
- I'm not excluding her from accountability.
- You be with somebody for nine years you have a family with,
and somebody else step out on you like that.
Have somebody do that.
You gonna want to split their wig, bro.
And that's the same way I feel right now.
- I don't owe you [bleep].
- And you don't owe me [bleep].
But as a man--
ain't you a man, ain't you a man?
- Sure am. Ask your girl.
- I'm telling you, my [bleep].
- Let's not forget. He hurt you.
All right?
I picked you up. OK?
I pride myself in taking care of you.
You were fighting depression and everything.
I helped you find yourself.
- That's all she needed you for.
- So we gon' figure this thing out.
What is it that you want to do, Jamison?
[dramatic music]
- So we gon' figure this thing out.
What is it that you want to do, Jamison?
[tense music]
- I want my family. You already know.
But there's no more phone calls.
There's no more doing of the [bleep] hair.
He's cut off.
- Juliette, are you leaning more one way
than the other?
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- Whether you're gonna say it now or not,
you know what we've talked about.
You know what I mean? You know what it is.
- I don't want to be with either of you guys.
I just want to put myself first.
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I just need both of you to respect that at this time.
- Listen, did you need time 20 minutes ago
when we were hugging, kissing, and all that?
- I get it.
You're defending yourself, but you didn't have to,
like, push him.
- You know that's not me.
- It's too much toxic.
This is just too much for me.
- You do know that you are the cause of that toxicity.
Not all of it. - Right.
- Just take some responsibility for some.
- I do. I take responsibility.
I know I'm wrong. I need time for myself.
- Do not be held hostage to a situation that don't want you.
But I feel like I gave you the answers.
You might not like them.
- No, and I appreciate it. Thank you, Tami.
- You know? Sorry, guys.
Hate to interrupt y'all little shopping spree.
We're gonna head on out.
And you guys gonna behave?
- Yes. - OK.
Come on, Ken.
- You got a cane over there, or a crutch?
- That was something else. I tried not to laugh.
I was holding it because I wanted to make sure you were--
- Tami, you wrong for that. I'm not even talking to you.
[soft music]
- At this moment, I'm just thinking about my kids
because I don't want my kids to be around this.
Like, this is embarrassing.
I want my kids to see something healthier.
- If you ever catch yourself in this predicament,
fight for what you love.
And if it's meant for you, it will happen.
And if not, then there's other fish in the sea.
- If it goes the way I hope it goes,
we could try to move forward and leave
everything in the past.
- They've got a lot of work to do in this moment
because she just really has a problem communicating
what it is that she wants.
- True. - That's unfortunate.
- It's unfortunate.
- Well, it didn't turn out how we thought it would,
but they never do.
- They never do.
You got some Tylenol for me?
- Mm-mm.
- You just gonna walk away like that?
- ♪ I couldn't see everything ♪
♪ That was in front of me ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ But I let it go, let it be ♪
[FaceTime ringing]
- Juliette and Jamison.
Well, look at y'all sitting there together
like a happy couple.
So I imagine that you must have gotten to a place of healing,
after experiencing that entire takedown
that we put you through.
- It was a lesson learned.
We're still in the healing process.
We need to regain the trust, you know what I mean?
Like, get back to where we were before, you know?
- I remember that you guys were like
two ships passing in the night.
And so there wasn't much communication.
Has that changed?
- I try not to work as much as what I used to
to build that trust, to build that communication,
just to get it back where it was.
- Are you also trying to get a real ring?
- A real ring is the right thing to do.
- It definitely is.
Now let's talk about Hiram.
- Oh, my goodness.
- Have you guys spoken to him since that night?
- Um, we did a little bit, briefly, because I was upset.
So I kind of stopped messing with him.
So he just does my hair here and there.
But honestly, nothing more after that.
- You said he still does your hair.
Is that the right course of action to take
when you're trying to rebuild with Jamison?
- I'm really trying to get it into her head,
it's just not cool.
- Correct. - You're right.
I can't argue with you on that.
It doesn't look right. You know what I mean?
- Sometimes, you have to cut off certain elements
in order to be able to establish...
- Mom, Dad-- - That trust again.
I hear the baby in the background.
[gasps] Oh, my God.
He's yummy.
Listen. Do the right thing for this.
You understand what I'm saying?
You guys have a beautiful family.
- Well, I appreciate you. - Thank you, appreciate it.
- A lot of good things, I think, will fall into place.
So thank you. - Bye.
- Blessings to you and the family, OK?
- Thank you, appreciate it. - All right, bye.
Cheaters, beware.
- You [bleep] kissed her, you idiot.
- Next time you want to be unfaithful, think again.
Let me tell you one mother[bleep] thing!
Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord!
Because I just might...
Oh, God, she's running.
Catch you in the act.
[bright tones]
[dramatic hip-hop music]
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