1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 [haunting music playing] 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,280 [switch clicks] 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,840 [tape rewinding] 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,920 [switch clicks, tape plays] 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,040 [man speaks indistinctly] 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 [Marilyn Monroe] Oh, uh, I'd like to ask you, 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,880 how do you go about writing a life story? 10 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,400 Because… [sighs] 11 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:40,280 …the true things rarely get into circulation. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,600 It's usually the false things. 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,000 If you ever get any of those things you want to ask, I'll tell you. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,200 All of those things come from the truth, you know? 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Because otherwise, it's hard to know where to start 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,600 if you don't start with the truth. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,960 [whirring] 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,120 [distorted voices] 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,720 -[switch clicks] -[man] The truth 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,600 and Marilyn, it's like going into the lion's den. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,720 -[tape rewinding] -[music builds] 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,080 I got into the case when I was contacted out of the blue 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,560 by a senior British newspaper editor, 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,440 who said that the District Attorney in Los Angeles 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,240 had reopened the case of her death. 26 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,160 After 20 years, it's time to clear up this case. 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,720 [reporter 1] Monroe died from an overdose of sleeping pills. 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speculation surrounding Monroe's death continues to this day. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Was it a matter of taking too many pills? Was it a suicide? 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,760 [reporter 1] The charge is Marilyn Monroe was murdered. 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,520 [Anthony] And crazy conspiracy theories. 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,560 [reporter 1] Someone in the CIA killed Monroe. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,360 There's a mystery about the story. 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Sex and politics. 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,640 The Kennedy brothers. 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,280 The Cuban Revolution. 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,880 And that's where I came in. 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,520 I'm trying to get a handle on what kind of creature she was. 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,880 [man 1] She was very frightened. 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,480 [Anthony] I interviewed a thousand people. 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,440 [woman] There's a great myth around her. 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,160 [Anthony] I wound up with 650 tape-recorded interviews. 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,720 I hope I've not got obsessed. 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,360 [man 2] I hope your phone is clean. 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,360 [Anthony laughs] I hope so too, yes. 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,360 The tapes I accumulated during the writing of the book 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 have never been heard by the public. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,080 [tape rewinds, stops] 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 [woman] Nobody ever knew everything. 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,840 [Anthony] What I learned was information that changed completely 52 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,120 what we thought we knew about her mysterious death, 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,800 and it suggests that the circumstances of her dying was covered up. 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,800 [haunting music fades] 55 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,880 [Anthony] I worked in investigative journalism 56 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,160 all over the world. 57 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,760 My initial idea was to spend two or three weeks working on the case, 58 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:23,480 and it turned into more than three years. 59 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,720 Marilyn Monroe had been a part of my growing up. 60 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,560 But I had a very peripheral knowledge of her life. 61 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 [announcer 1] Marilyn Monroe, the Golden Girl of Hollywood. 62 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 [announcer 2] The dazzling fame of Marilyn Monroe 63 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 delights the critics and attracts the public in swarms. 64 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,680 [Anthony] I knew that there was an absolute national 65 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,960 and international fascination with Marilyn. 66 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 [announcer 3] Marilyn Monroe was this era's sex symbol. 67 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 [announcer 4] Marilyn Monroe trod the summit of her profession. 68 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,680 [announcer 5] Something remarkable happened 69 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 when she stepped before a camera. 70 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,360 [Anthony] She was also a remarkable actress. 71 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,160 ♪ While tearing off a game of golf ♪ 72 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,760 [Anthony] A global figure of show business. 73 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,480 [indistinct clamor] 74 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,920 [gasps] ♪ 'Cause my heart belongs to Daddy ♪ 75 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,000 [announcer 6] A queen in her own realm of entertainment. 76 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,000 She was adored by millions. 77 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,840 [Anthony] Marilyn became the most famous woman in the world. 78 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,160 She still is. 79 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,240 [announcer 6] A self-illuminating body, a star. 80 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,800 [Anthony] I started work. 81 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Finding people, knocking on doors. 82 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Dig, dig, dig in that chatterbox of a place called Hollywood. 83 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,560 [phone line rings] 84 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,120 [Anthony] Glued to the phone… 85 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,240 [phone line rings] 86 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,920 …to get to people with information about the night Marilyn died. 87 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,600 [phone line rings, connects] 88 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,080 [man 1] Tony, I have often said that I could put together 89 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,000 a scenario that would absolutely blow the minds of anybody who read it, 90 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,280 but it would be terribly costly to government agencies, 91 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,600 friends of mine, to people I know. 92 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 -[Anthony] Yeah. -I don't think I want to do that. 93 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,240 [Anthony] It was difficult. 94 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,360 [man 2] But I never talk to the press ever, ever, ever. 95 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 But I can't say anything, and I knew it all. 96 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 [Anthony] It was like banging on a brick wall. 97 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,840 -[man 3] Except it's a waste of your time. -[Anthony] Why? 98 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,600 And I wonder if you could-- 99 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 I don't want to be the one who sets the record straight. 100 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,360 -But, I mean, I don't know you. -[Anthony] Fine. 101 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,600 Let it be. 102 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,840 [ominous music playing] 103 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,520 [Anthony] I was getting nowhere. 104 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,120 So instead, 105 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,800 I did what you always have to do if you meet a dead end. 106 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,000 I went back to the beginning. 107 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,720 [quiet jazz music playing] 108 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,320 [announcer 7] Hollywood, 109 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 brilliant tinsel city of lights and fantasy. 110 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Hollywood, 111 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 glorified, glittering, fascinating, fabulous mythical kingdom. 112 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Hollywood, the glamour capital of the world. 113 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,960 [Marilyn] When I was a kid, and I remember at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 114 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,760 [actor 1] Let's take a spin down the Boulevard and see what we can find! 115 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,720 [Marilyn] …I'd never come out of the movie. They'd have to come get me. 116 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 [announcer 7] Ah, Garbo! 117 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,160 [Marilyn] Bad, good, didn't matter. 118 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,560 [announcer 7] Hollywood's playground! 119 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,800 [Marilyn] Anything that would move on the screen. 120 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,880 [announcer 7] And here inside the gates, 121 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,960 there's more stars than the Milky Way! 122 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 If you don't believe it, just follow us! 123 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 [Marilyn] My favorite was Jean Harlow. 124 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 -She had white hair. -[crowd cheering] 125 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 [announcer 7] The one and only Marlene Dietrich! 126 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Cary Grant arrives with his best grin. 127 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 As usual, Cary has a genial greeting for everybody! 128 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,600 [Marilyn] And Clark Gable. 129 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,240 [announcer 7] Clark walked into the forecourt… 130 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,680 The crowd is still shouting for their favorite! 131 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,840 [Marilyn] Although I was a kid and I didn't know anything about acting, 132 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,120 I… [hesitates] 133 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,440 I wanted to know. 134 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,960 [phone line rings] 135 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,560 [phone line continues ringing] 136 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,600 [phone line connects] 137 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,000 [Anthony] Could I speak to Al Rosen, please? 138 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,080 [Al] Talking. 139 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:40,720 [Anthony] Hello, Mr. Rosen. 140 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,680 [Al] Yup. 141 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,560 -Marilyn Monroe. I knew her very well. -[Anthony] You did? 142 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,920 -[Al] I'm talking about in the beginning. -[Anthony] Yes. 143 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 -[Al] When she was a kid. -[Anthony] At that time-- 144 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,480 [Al] Well, I was… Al Rosen Agency was one of the top agencies in the business. 145 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,320 -[Anthony] Right. -We handled Cary Grant, Fredric March. 146 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 -Jack Oakie, Judy Garland, you know. -[Anthony] Right. 147 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,480 [Al] But, you see, the history of this business is 148 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,440 you got one thing, I'll guarantee it, which you didn't know about. 149 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 -In this business, in the golden years… -[Anthony] Yeah. 150 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,760 …every casting director, every studio used to have a black book, 151 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,120 you know what I mean? 152 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 So, every girl, you know, I'm talking about kids that were breaking in, 153 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,680 like Marilyn Monroe, you know, when they get started, 154 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,720 all the casting directors, 155 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,720 they would write in their black book who could be laid. 156 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,680 [Anthony] Hmm. Yeah. 157 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,320 [Al] You see, the business has changed since then. 158 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Today, it's the buck. 159 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,720 [Anthony] Right. 160 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,440 It used to be sex. Remember that. 161 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 [announcer 1] Calling all girls! Calling all girls! 162 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 And now, all those lovely hopefuls have their chance. 163 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,200 The process of selecting just the right girls is a careful one. 164 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,800 [announcer 2] My, my, what a smart looking crowd. 165 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Isn't she a honey? 166 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,440 Isn't she sweet? 167 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,040 Neck, 12 and a half. 168 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Bust, 34 and a half. 169 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,160 [announcer 3] Pride. Adventure. Ambition. 170 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,920 From the ends of the Earth they come, waiting for the magic call. 171 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,800 [discordant music playing] 172 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,000 -[phone line rings] -[Anthony] Hello? 173 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,000 [woman] Hello? 174 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,800 How can I help you? 175 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,200 [Anthony] You knew Monroe, um, at the beginning. 176 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,960 [Gloria] Well, my husband knew her first, early '40s. 177 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,240 [Anthony] Oh, as early as that? 178 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,280 [Gloria] Oh, yes. 179 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,640 You know, a generous girl, warm girl, really rather lovable. 180 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,480 She was very much on the restaurant scene and the club scene. 181 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,080 -[Anthony] But at Romanoff's. -[Gloria] Yeah. Enormous fun. 182 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,240 [Anthony] Uh-huh. 183 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,920 And it was quite exotic. 184 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,040 It had a real mélange of people, 185 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,800 and it was sort of the mecca for agents. 186 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,840 It had all of the film VIPs. 187 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,720 -All the pretty girls hung out there. -[Anthony] Right. 188 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,440 [Gloria] And Marilyn was among them, of course. 189 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,400 [announcer 3] So young is Hollywood 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,040 that many of its earliest pioneers are still active in the industry. 191 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,680 Men like Joseph Schenck, chairman of the board of 20th Century Fox. 192 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,320 Mr. Schenck brought about an era of epic, dramatic screen stories. 193 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 [Anthony] You know the stories about Schenck and her? 194 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,800 They were true, were they? 195 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Oh, sure. Schenck was a human being. 196 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,520 -You know what I mean. -[Anthony] Yeah. 197 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,880 [Al] She had a bunch of 'em. He wasn't the only one. 198 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 [Gloria] There were a group who gathered at Schenck's. 199 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,320 -She was always very much at his house. -[Anthony] Yeah. 200 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,520 ♪ Anyone can see I love you ♪ 201 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 [Gloria] And she was beginning to make a few strides. 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,840 ♪ And smile in your direction ♪ 203 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,400 ♪ Tells the world my heart is filled With nothing but affection… ♪ 204 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,880 [Anthony] So where are we now? 205 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:56,760 [Gloria] In 1948. 206 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,400 [Anthony] With Ladies of the Chorus. Hmm. 207 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,600 [unsettling music playing] 208 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:11,360 [Anthony] Male-dominated, women in movies exploited. 209 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,680 But it soon became clear that Marilyn was no pushover. 210 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,280 She wanted to be taken seriously. 211 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,200 She wanted to be an actress. 212 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,800 She worked the system to her own advantage. 213 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Johnny Hyde was one of the most influential agents in the country. 214 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Johnny Hyde loved her. 215 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,960 He left his wife on her account. 216 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:43,880 He was 53, 30 years older than she was, and very wealthy. 217 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Hyde had access to the most powerful people in Hollywood. 218 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,960 He was also seriously ill and had less than 18 months to live. 219 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,960 Hyde devoted those months totally to Marilyn. 220 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,800 Her sugar daddy. 221 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,720 ♪ Every baby needs a da-da-daddy To keep her worry free ♪ 222 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,720 [Anthony] By night, he escorted her to the top people in town. 223 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,920 ♪ Da-da-daddy But where's the one for me? ♪ 224 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,240 [Anthony] By day, he praised Marilyn's talents. 225 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,720 Having Hyde's patronage could make her a star. 226 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:30,920 ♪ Every baby needs a da-da-daddy Could my da-daddy be you? ♪ 227 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,040 [song instrumental continues] 228 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,880 -♪ Every baby needs a da-da-daddy… ♪ -[switch clicks] 229 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,680 [John Huston] Johnny Hyde, 230 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,720 who was a dear little man, wonderful little man… 231 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,240 -You know about him? -[Anthony] Yes. 232 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 -[Huston] Johnny was in love with her. -[Anthony] Yeah. 233 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,600 [Huston] Johnny Hyde spoke to me about her first 234 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,880 and then brought her over to Metro. 235 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Just, uh, very fresh. 236 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,920 Very attractive. 237 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Rather timid. 238 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,200 Shy. 239 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,080 And, um we talked to her and gave her a script. 240 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,000 She went away and came back a day or two later, 241 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,720 and, well, Marilyn read her lines, 242 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,600 and she read them very beautifully, very well. 243 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,040 And there was no question. 244 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,480 She was ideal for the part. 245 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,000 -[Anthony] In The Asphalt Jungle? -Yes, indeed. 246 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,080 That was that. 247 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,680 [announcer] Only once in a decade does the screen come up with 248 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,400 such absorbing characters. 249 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Marilyn Monroe as Angela, the easy-living, green-eyed blonde. 250 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:57,720 [Huston] Marilyn went right down into her own personal experience. 251 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,960 For everything. 252 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,880 She would reach down and pull something out of herself 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,160 that was unique and extraordinary. 254 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,600 She found things about womankind in herself. 255 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,040 She had no technique. 256 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,520 It was all the truth. 257 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,280 It was only Marilyn, but she was Marilyn plus. 258 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 [presenter 1] An award to the popular new star. 259 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,560 And as best young box office personality, Miss Marilyn Monroe. 260 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,760 Thank you, Mr. Nichols. 261 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 [announcer] It's Marilyn Monroe, skyrocketing to new dramatic heights. 262 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 [presenter 2] Marilyn Monroe, all the moviegoers of America voted you 263 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,480 the most popular actress of the year. My congratulations. 264 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Thank you, Mr. Sammis. 265 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 -Congratulations! -Thank you, Lauren. 266 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,280 And my thanks to Look magazine. 267 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 [announcer] A Hollywood incident that marks another salute 268 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,560 to Marilyn Monroe. 269 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Thank you. I thank you very much. 270 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,560 [host] And now here comes a young lady who has 271 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 created a real sensation in the picture business, 272 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,720 having won all kinds of awards as the number one newcomer of the year. 273 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,760 And believe me, a swell gal with a… 274 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Take it from me, I've known her a long time, Miss Marilyn Monroe! 275 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Let's hear it! Come on out here, Marilyn! 276 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,480 [applause] 277 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,200 [cameras clicking] 278 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,040 [inaudible] 279 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,200 [narrator] With Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell. 280 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 [dial tone] 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,640 [Anthony] Hello, Jane Russell? 282 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,880 [Jane Russell] Yes. 283 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,200 She was very bright, and she wanted to learn 284 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:58,080 and was interested in everything to help her control her career. 285 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,320 [Anthony] Right. 286 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,680 [Russell] And every night after work, she would go to the coach. 287 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 -[Anthony] Yes. -[Russell] We were going home exhausted. 288 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,760 She'd go to the coach. 289 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,680 But she wanted to be good. 290 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Then when… 291 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,480 [dramatic note plays] 292 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:18,080 …the camera went on, it was like a whole electric light went on in the, you know… 293 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,000 [Anthony] Yeah. 294 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,800 [Russell] They just came to life. 295 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,600 ♪ Diamonds ♪ 296 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,200 ♪ Are a girl's best… ♪ 297 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,160 [dramatic trumpet instrumental plays] 298 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,880 ♪ Best friend ♪ 299 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,400 [trumpet flourish plays] 300 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,240 [applause] 301 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,480 [Marilyn] I just felt like I was on the outside of the world, 302 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,760 and suddenly everything opened up. 303 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,440 [applause continues] 304 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,680 [Marilyn] The world became friendly. It opened up to me. 305 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,640 [indistinct crowd chatter] 306 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,000 [excited chatter] 307 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,440 [Marilyn] I said, "Gee, what happened?" 308 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,880 -[Marilyn giggles] -[crowd cheering, clapping] 309 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,000 [Marilyn] If I am a star, the people made me a star. 310 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,320 But I do want to be wonderful, you know. 311 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,640 ["Heat Wave" by Marilyn Monroe playing] 312 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,920 ♪ We're having a heat wave A tropical heat wave ♪ 313 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,520 ♪ The temperature's rising It isn't surprising ♪ 314 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,520 ♪ She certainly can cancan ♪ 315 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,760 [Marilyn] I want to do the best that I can do in that moment. 316 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,200 When the camera starts until it stops. 317 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,080 ♪ We're havin' a heat wave ♪ 318 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 ♪ A tropical heat wave ♪ 319 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,120 [Marilyn] That moment I want to be… perfect. 320 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,640 ♪ Cancan ♪ 321 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,520 [Marilyn giggles] 322 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,040 [applause] 323 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,480 [Marilyn] I'll tell you, 324 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,680 I'm terribly grateful 325 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,280 because I remember when… 326 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,920 things weren't like this at all. 327 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,080 [Huston] I saw her a time or two. 328 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,400 -Years had gone by. -[Anthony] Yeah. 329 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,400 So she by now presumably looked different. 330 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,880 By now she was dressed to the T's, and she'd become the… 331 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,920 the sex symbol of this country. 332 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,960 And it wasn't… It wasn't just a sex thing at all. 333 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,920 Women felt just the same as men. 334 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,600 There was something deeply moving about Marilyn, always. 335 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,880 We were close during the picture, 336 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,560 and then we were… we, you know, considered ourselves friends, 337 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800 but Marilyn kind of went from one group to another. 338 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 She would take off, and it would be another. 339 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,240 That would become the shell for a time. 340 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,800 She didn't go back and seek out any of the people 341 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,680 that had become close to her. 342 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,280 [Huston] There was something so vulnerable, so… 343 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Something you felt 344 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,400 could be easily destroyed. 345 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,000 [disquieting music playing] 346 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,440 [camera clicks] 347 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,120 [disquieting music continues] 348 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,920 [Anthony] When you tackle so-called mysteries, 349 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,840 it's difficult. 350 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,600 What happened? Was it suicide? Was it accident? 351 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Was it something more sinister? 352 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,280 -[crows cawing] -[light switch clicks] 353 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,280 [Anthony] So, it was like tapping cement with your finger. 354 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520 And then I came across 355 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,000 the family of 356 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,280 the last psychiatrist. 357 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,960 It was a breakthrough. 358 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,160 Dr. Ralph Greenson, 359 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 the Hollywood psychiatrist 360 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,600 who treated and befriended Marilyn in her final years, 361 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,200 just before her death in 1962. 362 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,440 Ralph was dead. 363 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,400 He had left a widow, Hildi, 364 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:46,560 and his daughter, Joan, 365 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 and his son, Danny. 366 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,240 They were really helpful interviews that gave me a real insight. 367 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,640 [whirring, clicks] 368 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,240 -[man] Hello? -[Anthony] Hi. 369 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,800 I know that your father took over the West Coast work with Marilyn in 1960, 370 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,240 just short of two years that he was involved with her till she died. 371 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,920 [Danny] Well, I hated Hollywood. My family knew enough Hollywood people. 372 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,960 You know, I had, at times, met movie stars at parties 373 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 and found the whole thing to be obnoxious. 374 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,400 My notion was these people were… were phoneys and narcissistic characters. 375 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,440 I hated 'em. 376 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,560 So when I heard that Dad was seeing Marilyn, 377 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,280 I was not jumping up and down and cheering. 378 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 He couldn't see her at the office. She was too goddamn famous. 379 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,720 He was seeing her at home. I thought, "What a bunch of bullshit." 380 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,520 [woman] I mean, here's the sex symbol of the world. 381 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Here is, you know, what womanhood should be in a nutshell. 382 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,160 [Joan] I mean, there was something about Marilyn 383 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,400 that put her apart from everybody else. 384 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280 But there were times, you know, that I would pick her up in my Hillman Minx. 385 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,600 -You know, and… -[Anthony] Yeah. 386 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Marilyn without makeup and a scarf over her hair and just sitting there, 387 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,880 you know, you wouldn't think would attract any kind of attention, 388 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,640 and yet, you know, I would suddenly have five people washing my windows. 389 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,720 -But there was just something. -[Anthony] Yeah. 390 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,960 It happened to me too. 391 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,800 [Anthony] Because they knew she was Marilyn-- 392 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,760 No! No! 393 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,360 [Joan] There was an at-homeness with her body 394 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,240 that very… I have never seen anybody else have. 395 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240 To be sort of almost animal-like 396 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320 in their feel and their movement and… 397 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,600 You know, beautiful and very, in a sense, poetic. 398 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Hildi allowed me access to many of Dr. Greenson's papers, his letters, 399 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,720 which were gold dust. 400 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,840 He thought that Marilyn had a tendency to paranoid reactions. 401 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 However, she wasn't schizophrenic, 402 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,120 and her paranoid-like reactions are more masochistic. 403 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Greenson thought that the tendency towards 404 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,720 acting out of the orphan girl rejections 405 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,560 seemed to him central. 406 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,240 She was a waif. 407 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Marilyn's troubled childhood 408 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,480 was a time that the grown woman was never going to forget. 409 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,920 She spent time in ten foster homes, 410 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,800 two years in an orphanage, 411 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,200 another foster home, 412 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,280 four years with a guardian, 413 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:40,160 when her mother was packed off to a mental asylum. 414 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,280 [Marilyn] And I'm not calling myself an orphan. 415 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,960 I was brought up a waif. 416 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Yeah, I was never used to being happy. 417 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 So that wasn't something I was sort of counting on. 418 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,400 [Anthony] In Marilyn, 419 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,360 Greenson saw a woman who was deprived of childhood, 420 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,080 and he thought that what she needed was a family. 421 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,600 [Danny] In all the years he'd been doing that, 422 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 my father had never had a patient commit suicide. 423 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,360 He never treated anybody as unorthodoxly as he was treating her. 424 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:22,040 His feeling was that because of who she was, she could never be hospitalized. 425 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,520 So given that he couldn't do that, 426 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,320 his feeling was the best shot he had 427 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 was to try to treat her in this highly unusual, 428 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,440 unorthodox kind of way that he did. 429 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,080 She starts hanging out with the family. 430 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,720 That's how a sort of more of a friendliness then came about. 431 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,520 Before dinner, they would have cocktails. 432 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,760 And that would be where the sort of pre-dinner conversation would go on. 433 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,240 She had a… a mind that searched 434 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,920 and an honest mind that tried to find whatever her truths were. 435 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,200 [Danny] It must have been somewhere along the line 436 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,000 that I began to talk to her. 437 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,520 And it was in that particular setting that I slowly but surely got to know her, 438 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,360 because I certainly know that my opinion changes. 439 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Within that family, I was the new arrived left-winger. 440 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720 So, but we'd get into these conversations, 441 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,360 and lo and behold, you know, Marilyn would end up on my side. 442 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,080 -[Anthony] Right. -[Danny] So a friendship developed. 443 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,680 I began to like her and to recognize that there was more to this person 444 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,200 than, uh… than met the eye. 445 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,200 [Joan] Well, Marilyn told me that there was a new man in her life. 446 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,680 [Anthony] And what did she have to say? 447 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640 No, that he was just, you know… you know, really terrific. 448 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960 -Neat. [laughs] -And he was really neat. 449 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,520 And, you know, cute and… 450 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960 I mean, it was that kind of… I mean, I remember-- 451 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840 -It was girly talk. -[Joan] It was girly talk. 452 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,160 I mean, the… 453 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,240 She said that this person was so important that she wouldn't tell me who it was. 454 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Calling him "the general." 455 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280 [tape clicks, rewinds] 456 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,000 [Joan] She was calling him "the general." 457 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,120 [tape rewinding] 458 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920 -The general. -[tape clicks] 459 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,960 "The general." 460 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,480 The general was the way insiders at the Justice Department 461 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,800 referred to Attorney General Robert Kennedy. 462 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,840 [Joan] And I remember feeling that it was real… 463 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,880 You know, it was real peculiar that here I'm sitting with Marilyn Monroe. 464 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,680 We're talking about boyfriends, and I'm meeting some schlub at art school. 465 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,800 I know that she's talking about somebody that's very big in the government. 466 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,200 And… and it sort of struck me as… 467 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,160 -[laughs] Somehow this is bizarre. -[Anthony] You mean, you knew already-- 468 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,520 [Joan] So I didn't know whether it was Bobby or the president. 469 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,720 -[Anthony] Yeah. -[Hildi] It was simply titillating. 470 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,920 [Joan] I mean, I don't even remember the guy I had a crush on back then, 471 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,440 but it was certainly somebody that wasn't gonna hold a candle to that. 472 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,600 [Anthony] '61, in her last year and months. 473 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,520 Yeah. 474 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,080 [Anthony] The rumors about John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe are, of course, legion. 475 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600 Robert Kennedy was another matter. 476 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,600 That was beginning to interest me more. 477 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960 [Danny] There was more to this person than met the eye. 478 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,120 [whirring] 479 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,640 [Hildi] Family. 480 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,040 [Anthony] "Orphan girl rejections." 481 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,120 [Joan] The general. 482 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600 This person was so important. 483 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,600 [Anthony] Question marks. 484 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,920 Mysteries. 485 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Robert F. Kennedy maybe would fit into the pattern of the end of Marilyn's life. 486 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,400 After all, 487 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,520 from her mid-twenties, her romantic involvements 488 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960 were with famous men. 489 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,160 [pulsating music builds] 490 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,640 [crowd cheers] 491 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560 [commentator] Joe DiMaggio! Smacked one out of the park! 492 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,000 What a hit! Into the upper deck in left center field! 493 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520 [Marilyn] He was a wonderful athlete. 494 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,800 [commentator] DiMaggio connects. 495 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,240 [crowd cheering] 496 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 [Marilyn] I met him… he had already retired. 497 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,440 [music continues] 498 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640 [Marilyn] I had very few friends. 499 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,840 It's just that 500 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,920 I like people, 501 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,800 but for friends, I like few people. 502 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,120 [chuckling] 503 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,560 But I think she was quite taken with DiMaggio. 504 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,040 [Marilyn] I saw him for around a year and a half, two years, and we married. 505 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360 [announcer] Romance that thrills the world! 506 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360 The marriage of Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio. 507 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840 The girl who starred in How to Marry a Millionaire, 508 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520 giving another starring performance in How to Marry a Baseball Hero, 509 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600 and now the pair are off for their happy honeymoon. 510 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,040 [indistinct shouts, cheers] 511 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 [Marilyn] He understood some things about me, and… 512 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520 I understood some things about him. 513 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,640 [indistinct shouts] 514 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520 [Marilyn] We based our marriage on it. 515 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,360 And I say some things. 516 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,880 [reporter] How have you and Mrs. DiMaggio enjoyed your trip to Japan? 517 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Everything has been fine. We've enjoyed our trip. 518 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,000 The only thing that I have to complain about is I haven't seen much of Marilyn. 519 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 She is making a trip to Korea, 520 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720 touring through the camps and so, 521 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 maybe after that we'll be able to spend a little time together. 522 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,000 -♪ With my baby by and by, and by ♪ -[soldiers cheering] 523 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,440 [Gloria] I mean, I really don't think they had a lot in common. 524 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,200 I think she was very touched by his genuine concern for her. 525 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440 But then quite soon bored… 526 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080 with his over-possessiveness. 527 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,560 [Marilyn] Well, we're here to make The Seven Year Itch. 528 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,360 -[reporter] That's your latest picture? -Yes. 529 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,600 I'm looking forward to working in it very much. 530 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120 I hear that you're getting to be quite a cook too. 531 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Joe says you can really broil a mean steak. 532 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,320 Well, I'm learning. 533 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960 A little slow, but… [chuckles] 534 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Okay. 535 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,640 [quiet jazz music playing] 536 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,440 [Anthony] Joe DiMaggio couldn't deal with being married to the nation's pin-up. 537 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560 [Billy Wilder] We were shooting Seven Year Itch with Marilyn Monroe. 538 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760 And do you remember that famous shot? 539 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960 Do you remember the wind that is lifting her skirt? 540 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Do you feel the breeze from the subway? 541 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Isn't it delicious? 542 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040 [train rumbling] 543 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,360 [Marilyn] Oh! Here comes another one! 544 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200 [Wilder] Well, we were all set up to shoot that scene, you know. 545 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760 There were five and ultimately 10,000 people. 546 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,680 They were like, uh… and look up Marilyn's skirt. 547 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,880 And… 548 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280 people were heckling from the sidelines, 549 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,560 and people were running up for autographs. 550 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,480 [Anthony] You did Marilyn's hair on several of her films. 551 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,480 [woman] I did Seven Year Itch. 552 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 [Anthony] So you were around during that business 553 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280 that caused the fuss with the skirt blowing up-- 554 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,320 [Gladys] Yeah. Joe got very upset about it. 555 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720 -[Anthony] Did he really or was that-- -[Gladys] Really! 556 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 [Wilder] Joe DiMaggio, you know, he was watching it, 557 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,440 and he didn't like it very much, 558 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,480 his wife making a spectacle of herself. 559 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,440 [Gladys] They had a suite in a real old, beautiful hotel. 560 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600 -And he… beat her up a little bit. -[Anthony] Huh. 561 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440 [Gladys] Marilyn said that she screamed and yelled for us. 562 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200 But we couldn't hear her through those thick walls, you know. 563 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 [Anthony] She emerged a bit bruised and black eyes and things? 564 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960 -[Gladys] It was more on her shoulders. -[Anthony] Yeah. 565 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,440 But with a little makeup and everything, she went ahead and worked. 566 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040 [Marilyn] Our marriage wasn't a happy one. It ended in, 567 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,040 uh, nine months, 568 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,480 unfortunately. 569 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400 I don't know what else to say. 570 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240 [indistinct shouts] 571 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640 All I can say as her attorney is that 572 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,720 this is what we would say was a conflict of careers. 573 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Has Joe moved out finally? 574 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,400 [indistinct clamor] 575 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480 -[reporter] Okay, Jerry! -I'm sorry. I have to go. 576 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120 [poignant music playing] 577 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,360 [Danny] My dad had told me… 578 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,240 that she got depressed at times. 579 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920 About how terrible she felt about herself. 580 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,520 [Anthony] Right. 581 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680 "Nothing would ever turn out right." 582 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160 "Nothing would go my way." 583 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,400 [Anthony] Right. 584 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,360 [reporter 1] How do you feel about coming back to Hollywood? 585 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 A happy time for you-- 586 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000 Yes, it is. It's a very happy time. I'm happy to be back. 587 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,000 -In my hometown. -[reporter 1] Yes. 588 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,840 [reporter 2] Well, you're a happy girl now? 589 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,960 [hesitates] Uh… 590 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,160 And she talked about this whole litany of depressive thought. 591 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,080 "Nobody likes me." 592 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200 "Everything I do turns to shit." 593 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,280 "I don't have anybody." 594 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,000 "I'm a waif." 595 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,480 [reporter 2] Marilyn, all we know in New York 596 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520 is that you and Joe DiMaggio are friends at a distance. 597 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,960 How great a distance? 598 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,320 Well, we haven't seen each other. 599 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360 [reporter 2] Do you hear from each other? Do you write or talk? 600 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,800 -Um, I'd rather not answer. -[reporter 2] All right, fine. 601 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 [emotive music playing] 602 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680 [Marilyn] Well, when I was put in the orphans' home, 603 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,480 they pulled me, and I kept crying and screaming, "I'm not an orphan." 604 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,040 I called every woman I would see, I'd say, "There's a mama." 605 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,880 If I would see a man, I'd say, "There's a daddy." 606 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,800 [woman] I don't think I have really too much to say about it except 607 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000 I… I liked her, and… 608 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,360 and we'd talk a lot. 609 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,320 [Anthony] Right. 610 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,080 [Feury] I was at the Strasbergs' parties with her a lot. 611 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840 [Anthony] Did you see her in the time of her deterioration, 612 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,760 which was the last year or so. Did you-- 613 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,920 [Feury] She… she seemed a little bit, um… 614 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,240 She seemed concerned about, uh, 615 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 you know, like childhood memories of… 616 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 of being molested as a child, things like that. 617 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,720 [Anthony] Talked about it as late as that? 618 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,800 [Feury] She talked about that, I remember. 619 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,800 She felt that she had avoided… 620 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,280 That she knew people who were psychotic from such episodes, 621 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360 and she felt that at least she'd survived that. 622 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,320 [Anthony] Hmm. 623 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Marilyn said, "It did happen." 624 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,680 "I knew it was wrong." 625 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,120 "But to tell you the truth, I think I was more curious than anything else." 626 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120 "Nobody ever told me about sex." 627 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880 "And frankly, I never did think it was all that important." 628 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,600 -[tape clicks] -[man] I was a very, very close friend. 629 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360 And was friends to the end. 630 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 [soft haunting music playing] 631 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,840 [Henry] She wanted to know her father so badly. 632 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,080 I remember a party and this game we'd play. 633 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Everybody said what they'd want most in the world. 634 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080 [Anthony] Yes. 635 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 [Henry] And she said she'd want to put on a black wig, 636 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,480 pick up her father at a bar, 637 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,400 have him make love to her, 638 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,240 and then she'd say, "Well, how does it feel now to have a daughter 639 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,600 that you've made love to?" 640 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,560 [Anthony] Yes. 641 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,200 [Danny] We all need to get out of childhood in one piece, 642 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,000 but if nowhere along the line do you get that sort of reinforcement 643 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480 that you are worth love, you're lovable, that there's something in you, 644 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,080 that we're a good person, 645 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720 what you end up with is a sort of emptiness. 646 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,160 [Anthony] Men, eminent men, 647 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,520 again, 648 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,760 powerful and important, 649 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640 again and again, 650 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,600 if there's any mystery about Monroe's death, 651 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,720 seemed to me to be central. 652 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,960 [tape clicks] 653 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,120 [Anthony] Before jumping in at the deep end, I wanted to know, 654 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600 did you see her just after the DiMaggio marriage? 655 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,880 We were friends prior to the marriage. 656 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,840 [Anthony] Yes. 657 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,160 Many years before that. 658 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,040 [Arthur] See, my father owned half of Republic Studios at one time. 659 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360 -So I grew up with these people. -[Anthony] Uh-huh. 660 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,280 But, uh, I think the greatest effect of all was Arthur Miller. 661 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,720 [Anthony] Yes. 662 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080 [Arthur] The Arthur Miller situation. 663 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,880 [Anthony] Arthur Miller was the nation's most famous playwright. 664 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,000 He was distinguished for his plays, like All My Sons and Death of a Salesman. 665 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,760 [reporter 1] How long have you known Miss Monroe, Mr. Miller? 666 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000 I met her a long time ago, but I hadn't seen her in years. 667 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440 But I think I've got the woman who is going to be my wife. 668 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600 -[reporter 1] You mean Marilyn Monroe? -That's correct. 669 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,800 [reporter 2] When are you planning to have children? 670 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,920 Well, I'm not married yet, dear. 671 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,200 [all laugh] 672 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,960 [reporter 3] This is a personal question. 673 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,080 Is there anything in particular about Mr. Miller that attracted you? 674 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600 -Have you seen him? -[reporter 3] Yes. 675 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,160 -Yes! -[all laugh] 676 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080 [Anthony] In 1955, Marilyn was 29, 677 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,920 and he was 40. 678 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,760 Their romance really took off. 679 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,880 [pulsating music playing] 680 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,400 I think she was quite intrigued by people she thought to be bright. 681 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,520 [Anthony] She was bright and trying to further herself 682 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,440 in that sense all the time. Is that right? 683 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360 [Feury] That would have been my impression. 684 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,280 [Anthony] Marilyn had come to crave artistic credibility and independence. 685 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,960 [Marilyn] What I'd like to accomplish, I would like to be a good actress. 686 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,000 A true actress. An artist, with integrity. 687 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,440 [Anthony] She'd moved to the East Coast, 688 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,720 studied at the famed Actors Studio and started her own production company, 689 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,680 Marilyn Monroe Productions. 690 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520 [Feury] She had very strong goals for herself. 691 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,400 She was so bright about acting. 692 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,600 [Anthony] You saw her doing things out in the Studio? 693 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,400 [Feury] She'd come over, sit with me at the Studio and things like that. 694 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,880 She'd figure out what she wanted to do with the scene. 695 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,040 [Anthony] She really seems to have worked at things. 696 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040 [Feury] She really… she really cared. 697 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,400 [Marilyn] I think love and work are the only things that really happen to us. 698 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,840 [Arthur] Arthur Miller thought she was intelligent 699 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,200 and had a brain that was never cultivated. 700 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,760 And that's where he courted her. 701 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,640 [Anthony hesitates] You mean that it was a Svengali situation? 702 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,880 -[Arthur] That's correct. -[Anthony inhales] 703 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,920 [indistinct chatter] 704 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,200 [Anthony] It was the coming celebrity wedding of the year, 705 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,280 and it got enormous attention. 706 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,760 It all amounted to a new beginning. 707 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120 [reporter] Ms. Monroe, could you tell us what kind of a wedding you're gonna have? 708 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480 Very quiet, I hope. 709 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,440 [poignant piano instrumental playing] 710 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,160 [Anthony] The couple married in a quiet ceremony. 711 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,520 He gave her a ring inscribed, 712 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,040 "Now is forever." 713 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,240 Marilyn wrote on the back of one of the wedding photographs… 714 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,520 "Hope, hope, hope." 715 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,720 [music continues] 716 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,200 [Anthony] The couple traveled to London to make a film 717 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,720 for Marilyn Monroe Productions, 718 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,320 The Prince and the Showgirl. 719 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,240 After a party, 720 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,160 she happened upon some notes that Arthur Miller had left lying around. 721 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,960 Marilyn told her acting coach, 722 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960 "It was something about how disappointed he was in me." 723 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640 "How he thought I was some kind of angel 724 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,360 but now he guessed he was wrong." 725 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560 "He'd married a woman as flawed as his previous wife had been." 726 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Miller also wrote in the note that she was a whore. 727 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,480 An incident that Marilyn would refer to time and again. 728 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,600 What does it mean? 729 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,800 She thought he wanted to love her, but… 730 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,720 how could she be protected against love's tenderness or brutality? 731 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,400 [microphone crackles] 732 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,280 [phone line ringing] 733 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,000 [man] Studio. 734 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,520 -[Anthony] Can I speak to Milton Greene? -[Milton] Speaking. 735 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,280 Good morning. It's Tony Summers. 736 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480 The business with you, 737 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,040 I had gathered that you were her close friend and associate. 738 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,000 Close friend and associate. We loved each other, period. 739 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,880 [Anthony] Was it your impression that when she was actually married, 740 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,960 that she was pretty much of a good, faithful wife? 741 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960 [Milton] She was. She really was. She wanted a baby. 742 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480 In fact, during Prince and the Showgirl, 743 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,800 she said, when it's over, she's gonna go home and have a baby. 744 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600 And I said, "Well, great." 745 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,400 "Get the white picket fence, and I think it's a good idea." 746 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,360 [Anthony] Yes. 747 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,000 Did she ever talk to you about her desire for children? 748 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,840 [Milton] If you gave her a choice between children and stardom, 749 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,320 it would have been children… 750 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,920 without question. 751 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,360 [Danny] There were some photographs, 752 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480 I think it was a picture of her and Miller's father. 753 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,320 And she said to me, 754 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,400 "This is my happiest period." 755 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,000 And I asked her why. 756 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,760 She showed me the picture and said, "I was pregnant then." 757 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,840 [Henry] Yes, she was pregnant by Miller during Some Like It Hot. 758 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,480 ♪ Running wild, lost control ♪ 759 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,800 ♪ Running wild, mighty bold ♪ 760 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,240 ♪ Feeling gay, reckless too ♪ 761 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,280 ♪ Carefree mind, all the time Never blue ♪ 762 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,760 ♪ Always goin', don't know where… ♪ 763 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,160 [phone line connects] 764 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,760 [man] If you watched her 765 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,200 in the picture that I worked with her on called Some Like It Hot… 766 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,280 -[Anthony] Right. One of my favorites. -[man] She was so wonderful. 767 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,680 [Anthony] How much of her career did you know her through? 768 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,720 All the way through. 769 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,040 -[Anthony] From the start? Gosh. -Yes. 770 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880 ♪ And nobody else but you ♪ 771 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,160 [Sydney] She had a very naive quality about her, very soft, gentle quality. 772 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,120 -[Anthony] Yeah. -♪ Boop boop be doo ♪ 773 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,960 ♪ I wanna be kissed by you, just you ♪ 774 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,440 ♪ And nobody else but you… ♪ 775 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,800 [Sydney] That's the way she could be, you see. 776 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,640 ♪ …kissed by you alone ♪ 777 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,960 [Sydney] That's the way she was, not could be. She was evanescent. 778 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,040 -♪ To anything higher… ♪ -And I… 779 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,480 Well, uh, she wasn't happy many times, Mr. Summers. 780 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,080 I… I remember… 781 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,160 ♪ Deedly-deedly-dum, boop-boop-a-doop ♪ 782 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,960 [Anthony] I wonder if you're about to tell me 783 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,520 about her problems with childbearing, 784 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,600 and she did lose the baby. 785 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,200 Uh, it seemed to me that the crises that are supposed to have occurred, 786 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,560 seem to have occurred because of her miscarriages. 787 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,960 Am I on the wrong track with that? 788 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,920 Everything connects in a person's life, particularly hers, you know? 789 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,120 And it's sad. 790 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,040 [Wilder] She was slightly discombobulated at all times. 791 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200 But by God, when you suffered through that scene, 792 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,760 through the 30, 40, 50 takes sometimes, 793 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,480 you had something there, you know. 794 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640 Something absolutely unique that cannot be duplicated. 795 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,920 I had no problem with Monroe. Monroe had problems with Monroe. 796 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,000 She had problems with herself. 797 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,320 [Sydney] I can give you the reason for that one. 798 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120 But I can't say anything. And I knew it all. 799 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,080 I'm awfully sorry. 800 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,280 You sound very nice, but I really… It makes me unhappy to talk about it. 801 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,480 It really does. 802 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,800 -[Anthony] You know you-- -[Sydney] She's been gone 20 years… 803 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,360 -[Anthony] Oh yes. -…Mr. Summers. 804 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,640 [Anthony] I know. 805 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000 [Sydney] I can't bring myself to talk about it. 806 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,120 [somber music playing] 807 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480 [Marilyn] Just being able to be 808 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,960 another human being, 809 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,520 to be someplace… 810 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,920 Having certain kinds of secrets for yourself. 811 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,960 There is a need for aloneness, you know? 812 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,120 [haunting music playing] 813 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,560 [Anthony] Presumably you were very abruptly aware of the decline 814 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,000 when you started The Misfits. 815 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,520 I was aware from the-- Yes, I was aware from the beginning. 816 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,240 And I saw there was something that she was… 817 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,760 She was not the fresh little girl that I'd known originally. 818 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,760 Very soon we were aware that she was a problem. 819 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,240 She'd be late on the set always. 820 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Sometimes the whole morning would go by. 821 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,880 Sometimes she'd be all right. 822 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,480 Occasionally, she'd be practically non compos mentis. 823 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,240 [Anthony] Obviously the cause was the pills. 824 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360 [Huston] The narcotics were the problem. 825 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,600 [Anthony] Many people abuse prescription drugs in Hollywood. 826 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,040 And Marilyn was no exception. 827 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,840 She used uppers, amphetamines, and downers, barbiturates for years. 828 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,080 And most dangerously, sleeping pills. 829 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,960 Did you account for it because her marriage was breaking up? 830 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,920 Was this upsetting her so deeply or… 831 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,120 [Huston hesitates] I discovered this in the course of the picture. 832 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,120 I remember saying to Miller one day… 833 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,880 I said, you know, that if she went on at the rate that she was going, 834 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,640 why, she'd be in an institution in two or three years, or dead! 835 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,640 And I said anyone who allows her to take a drug ought to be shot. 836 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,960 It was almost an accusation against him. 837 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,640 An indictment against Miller. 838 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,600 [Anthony] When did you last see her alive? 839 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,600 [Huston] At the end of the shooting of Misfits. 840 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,920 [Marilyn inhales] 841 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,880 [Marilyn] Happiness… 842 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,680 Does one ever know that? 843 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,200 [haunting music] 844 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,160 [Anthony] 1961… 845 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,640 That looks like any movie star being mobbed by reporters. 846 00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:36,640 In fact, Marilyn spent four days at Payne Whitney Psychiatric Clinic 847 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,000 for treatment of her abuse of sleeping pills, 848 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,160 but the press had got wind of it. 849 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,640 [reporter] Marilyn! 850 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,160 [Anthony] And she came out of there through the mob of newsmen 851 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:49,280 and switches herself on 852 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,960 and looks fairly composed. 853 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,440 [reporter] Marilyn! 854 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,520 [Anthony] Marilyn was quoted as saying she felt wonderful. 855 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,680 I feel wonderful. Thank you. 856 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,760 [Anthony] The truth, though, 857 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,520 this was a woman who'd been deeply emotionally distressed. 858 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,720 Just months later, she'd be dead. 859 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,720 Why? 860 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,120 [crowd cheering wildly] 861 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000 [indistinct clamor] 862 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,320 [Anthony] She got divorced from Miller in January '61, 863 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,560 on the same day that the president was inaugurated. 864 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,560 [Hildi] Here she was now, again divorced and terribly lonely. 865 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 [Arthur] That's when the Kennedys came back in there. 866 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,080 [Anthony] After the collapse of her marriage to Miller? 867 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,520 -[Arthur] Right. -[applause] 868 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000 -[Anthony] Were you aware of that? -[Arthur] Oh, yes. 869 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,440 But Jack, that started in the early and mid '50s. 870 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,200 [Anthony] It started way back in the '50s? 871 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,840 -Yes! -[Anthony] Uh-huh. 872 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,440 [Arthur] Oh, of course it did. 873 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160 [Anthony] How early do you think you started hearing 874 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:21,680 any information at all about Marilyn and the Kennedys? 875 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,800 He'd been out here on and off all through the '50s. 876 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,400 'Cause he had lots of friends here, you know, 877 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,800 spending lots of time, you know. 878 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,240 -[Arthur] He used the Malibu Inn. -[Anthony] Yes. 879 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,080 -[Arthur] And drank at the Malibu Cottage. -[Anthony] Uh-huh. 880 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,480 The raunchiest looking thing you've ever seen in your life. 881 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,040 [Anthony] They actually got away with staying out there together 882 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,120 and walking on the pier? 883 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,080 -Oh yeah, because Jack wasn't known… -[Anthony] Yeah. 884 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,040 …here at all. 885 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960 He was a senator. He was totally unknown here. 886 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,960 I, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, do solemnly swear… 887 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,480 [Arthur] No one ever expected Jack to become the president or the nominee. 888 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,120 …and I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States. 889 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,000 [judge] And will to the best of your ability… 890 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,080 [Arthur] He's just some smart-ass rich kid's son that became senator. 891 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,280 Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. 892 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,560 So help you God. 893 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:12,920 So help me God. 894 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,800 [crowd cheering] 895 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000 [Anthony] So, when did the Bobby thing start? 896 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,080 [Arthur] After Jack. 897 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,480 [Anthony] But you did have the impression there had been, 898 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080 in phase, relationships with both of them, did you? 899 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,400 Ah, yes. 900 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,320 [Anthony] Right. 901 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,240 [Arthur] Yes. 902 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,080 ♪ Whose broad stripes And bright stars… ♪ 903 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,600 [Arthur] But, in '61, 904 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:41,640 the meeting headquarters was at Pete Lawford's house. 905 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,520 In Malibu. 906 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,800 [Anthony] The palatial home of Peter Lawford and his wife Pat, 907 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,560 one of JFK's many sisters. 908 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,240 Peter Lawford was a member of Frank Sinatra's Rat Pack. 909 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,000 In 1961, Marilyn stayed the night here, 910 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,520 on occasion, with the Lawfords as their friend, 911 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,320 but also they threw famous parties here. 912 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,160 ["The Last Letter" by The Blossoms playing] 913 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,200 [Anthony] And at various points, the Kennedy brothers both came here. 914 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,320 ♪ Open your mailbox, baby… ♪ 915 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,320 [woman] Just the things that were going on in that beach house. 916 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,280 Not discreet at all. 917 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,480 Of course, there was nothing discreet about any of the Kennedys either. 918 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,040 [Anthony] Was Marilyn there when you were there with either of them? 919 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,360 [Jeanne Martin] Mm-hmm. I mean, it was just mind-boggling. 920 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:56,840 Peter would obviously be, you know, sort of pimping for both Kennedys. 921 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,440 They would do it just as soon in front of anybody. 922 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,920 Yeah, their wives could be in the other room, 923 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680 and many times were, you know. 924 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960 [Anthony] While jumping about with a lady in another room? 925 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,760 Yeah. I mean, I found a hand up my breast. 926 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,920 The president owned it. [scoffs] 927 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,760 [Anthony] Was Bobby a grabber? 928 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,480 Yeah. 929 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,040 Not in the terms that Jack was. 930 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,840 They were tacky, they were corny, they were… you know, the father was. 931 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,960 [Anthony] Oh yeah. 932 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,800 [Martin] They were chips off the old block. 933 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,360 [Anthony] And live up to Dad? 934 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,760 Ol' Joe Kennedy is well known for telling the boys, 935 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,280 "Get laid as often as you can with as many women as you want." 936 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,120 He actually told his boys that. 937 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,160 [Al] You know, his father was a bigger wolf than he was! 938 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:44,640 [Anthony] Oh, Joe. Yes. 939 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,280 He came out here, and he had an office here, 940 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,000 which later became RKO. 941 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,600 See, before, any con artist could come into the motion picture industry 942 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,560 and make a buck. 943 00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,560 [Anthony] Right. 944 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,760 And he used to fuck up in his office. 945 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,520 I used to have to wait outside the door, for chrissakes, 946 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,040 while he was getting laid. 947 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,120 I mean, I'm talking about Joe. 948 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,320 [Anthony laughs] Right. 949 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,200 So he still had power in Hollywood for years afterwards, did he? 950 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,440 [Al] Yeah. 951 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,800 Remember that. 952 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,880 [Anthony] But was it your impression there was a Bobby thing then 953 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,960 or that there was a Jack thing then? 954 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,920 Both. 955 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,800 [Anthony] I mean, you would think the brothers sharing a lady… 956 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,040 I do. 957 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,920 [Danny] It was in the dining room one day, 958 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,280 and she was talking about going over to Lawford's house. 959 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,240 "I want something to talk to him about." 960 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,760 -[Anthony] Robert Kennedy? -Right. 961 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,360 We talked about some political questions. She actually ended up writing them down 962 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,560 and putting them in her purse, and then she went there. 963 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,840 [Gloria] She was seated with Bobby 964 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,600 and had made some little notes, 965 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,160 feeling that she really wasn't quite bright enough for the crowd. 966 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,320 And, um, at one point, 967 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,760 he got up and called his father long-distance 968 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120 to say that he was seated with Marilyn Monroe, 969 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680 and would his father like to say hello to Marilyn. 970 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,320 -[Anthony] Who? -This is Bobby. 971 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920 And I think he asked her to dance. 972 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,160 They did that. 973 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,520 [Anthony] And Bobby lasts well into the presidency, right? 974 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,880 [Arthur] Yes, that's what she said on numerous occasions. 975 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,280 Again, she just didn't lie. She just spoke quite openly. 976 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000 [Anthony] What picture did she paint 977 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,040 of the state of the Kennedy thing at that point? 978 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,400 [Arthur] Oh, nothing but love. 979 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,040 Nothing but admiration. 980 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:28,960 [Anthony] Yeah. 981 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,880 Whatever the exact nature of the Kennedy brothers' relationship with Marilyn, 982 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,560 they were playing with fire. 983 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,360 There were bitter enemies. 984 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,440 Those who wanted to get the dirt on Jack and Bobby Kennedy. 985 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,720 [interviewer] Tonight, we go after the story of a private detective, 986 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840 who helps Confidential magazine pry into the lives of Hollywood stars. 987 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,440 An ex-cop, now one of the highest-paid private detectives in the United States. 988 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,920 He's Fred Otash. 989 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,560 Now then, Fred Otash, you take any case that pays you money, is that not so? 990 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,360 -Correct? -That's correct. 991 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,480 Any case at all? 992 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,520 I won't take a case for a member of the Communist Party or a communist. 993 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,560 I sort of draw the line there. 994 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,120 [interviewer] How do you justify invading people's privacy like that? 995 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,400 Well, I feel this way, if you can see it or hear it, 996 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,560 you're not invading any privacy. 997 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,400 Being a private detective is a dirty job. There's no two ways about it. 998 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,840 But I do a certain job, 999 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,240 and I try to determine if the facts and the items are true. 1000 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,480 -[interviewer] You just want the facts? -That's right. The true facts. 1001 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,440 [phone line beeping] 1002 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,640 -[Anthony] Fred Otash? -[Fred] Yeah. 1003 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,920 It's Tony Summers here. 1004 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,280 [Fred] I worked for and against the Mafia. I worked for and against law enforcement. 1005 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,760 I worked for and against the White House. 1006 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,600 And I worked for Hoffa. 1007 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,400 [Anthony] Jimmy Hoffa. 1008 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,120 Jimmy Hoffa was the leader of the Teamsters Union. 1009 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,960 It's a truckers' union of the United States. 1010 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,800 Famously corrupt, enormously powerful. 1011 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,200 Very much connected with the Mafia. 1012 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,760 [Fred] You can't be head of the Teamsters unless you're approved by the Mob. 1013 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,360 Hoffa was the Mob. 1014 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,600 [Anthony] Hoffa had been targeted by Robert Kennedy. 1015 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,680 [suspenseful music playing] 1016 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,920 -[Robert] Where'd you get the money? -[Hoffa] What'd you say? 1017 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760 [Robert] Do you have any evidence of the $20,000 in cash? 1018 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,120 -[Hoffa] No. -Did you receive any of this money? 1019 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,400 I don't believe that I did. 1020 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,240 [Robert] Suggest anything to you? 1021 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,600 [lawyer] It doesn't suggest anything except the fact that you're trying again 1022 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,080 to embarrass Hoffa. That's all. 1023 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,280 [Fred] Hoffa, he had a vendetta for Bobby. Kennedy had a vendetta for Hoffa. 1024 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,880 Mr. Hoffa, did you say, "That SOB. I'll break his back." 1025 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,040 Figure of speech. I don't know who I was talking about. 1026 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,640 I don't know what you're talking about. 1027 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,360 [Fred] Hoffa wanted to neutralize Kennedy. 1028 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,680 [Anthony] They wanted to get Bobby. 1029 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,520 He was the hated target because he was the attorney general. 1030 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,720 What Hoffa wanted 1031 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,480 was for me to develop a derogatory profile on Jack and Bobby Kennedy 1032 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,520 and their relationships with Marilyn Monroe. 1033 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,160 And the strategy that was agreed upon was to use electronic devices, 1034 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,800 and the most logical place to set those devices 1035 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,720 was Peter Lawford's home in Malibu. 1036 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,840 That was the Kennedy playground. 1037 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,400 And wire up Marilyn's home… 1038 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,800 in Brentwood. 1039 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,160 [Joan] The house on the Helenas was the first piece of property that she 1040 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,080 ever had owned in her whole life. 1041 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,920 And my father encouraged the whole idea that 1042 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,200 she alone as a person could own and put down roots and have her own place. 1043 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,400 It was something that hadn't occurred to her. 1044 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,280 And she was, you know, very excited about establishing her own sort of family. 1045 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,640 What Pop wanted to do was to have her stand on her own two feet. 1046 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,080 [Marilyn] But there is something in people, they want solitude for a while. 1047 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,880 That I'm quiet and to myself more. 1048 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,840 [Danny] Somewhere in there, my dad went away. 1049 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,360 -[Anthony] Yeah. -[Danny] To Europe. 1050 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,080 And he left with her in fairly decent shape. 1051 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,160 But I think she was starting that movie. 1052 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,320 [Anthony] That's right. 1053 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,680 [Joan] In a sense, the less important we became in her life, the better off. 1054 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,760 That meant that she had her own life. 1055 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,200 -[man 1] All right, camera! -[man 2] It's 11. 1056 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,920 It takes me two seconds. It's taken… 1057 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,400 You've… you've had two days. Sorry, George, but we can do it. 1058 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160 [George Cukor] Good, good, good. 1059 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,160 All right, cameras! 1060 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,800 -[footsteps fading] -[Cukor indistinct] 1061 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,200 Yeah, one more. That was good though, right? 1062 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,200 [man] He thought very highly of her, George Cukor did. 1063 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,520 And she would become even more of a star. 1064 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,040 [Robin] I'd have to look into my journal and see what he said. 1065 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,800 -If I wrote it down as a quote. -[Anthony] I'd be interested in that. 1066 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,080 [Robin] This is a quote. "Marilyn will turn out to be 1067 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,400 the most popular actress of her generation, probably of this century." 1068 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,200 [man 1] 502. Speed. 1069 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,040 [Marilyn] Mr. Cukor, on this film, has been 1070 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,160 very wonderful to me. 1071 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,880 Trying to be happy is almost as difficult as trying to be a good actress. 1072 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,240 You have to work at both of them. [laughs] 1073 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880 [Robin] "Her best films would have come late in her career." 1074 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280 "She had a great untapped dramatic talent." 1075 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,720 But anyway, she was making that movie, and… my dad, when he left said, 1076 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,840 "You guys should try to pitch in." 1077 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,200 He wanted to make sure that she wasn't running into some trouble. 1078 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,600 There was always great danger that she might… 1079 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,760 get involved with somebody or something. 1080 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,680 [Anthony] Yes. 1081 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320 [Fred] The bugs were installed in the bedrooms and on the phones. 1082 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,400 And there were four bugs altogether installed out there. 1083 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,800 They were placed under carpets, 1084 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,360 in the chandeliers, and in ceiling fixtures. 1085 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,880 You could wire a telephone five miles from the location. 1086 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,200 I had sent Danoff out there. 1087 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,200 John Danoff. 1088 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,880 [Anthony] 1961 being the year 1089 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,040 John Danoff was listening to Marilyn Monroe with JFK. 1090 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,960 [Fred] Yes. 1091 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,720 [Anthony] Testing, testing. Danoff, Danoff, Danoff. 1092 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,640 [John Danoff] The conversation that came across the receiver, 1093 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,880 it would fade in and fade out. 1094 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,640 [beeping over phone line fades] 1095 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,280 [John Danoff] Music, people talking, 1096 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,960 and I'm then beginning to recognize the voices, 1097 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,320 the Bostonian accent and Marilyn Monroe. 1098 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,440 I heard the president call Marilyn "Marilyn," 1099 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,560 or Marilyn calling the president "Prez." 1100 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,240 Any conversations on the phone, 1101 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,160 some with Jack Kennedy, some with Bobby Kennedy, 1102 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,080 some with Monroe, some with other people. 1103 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,960 Arrangements for meetings, there were gonna be rendezvous 1104 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,160 with Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, and Monroe. 1105 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,200 So there were numerous tapes made on Marilyn and Jack at the beach house 1106 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,760 in the act of lovemaking. 1107 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,960 [John Danoff] They went into the bedroom where there was another transmitter, 1108 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,680 which picked up cuddly talk and taking off her clothes, 1109 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,640 the sex act in the bed. 1110 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,440 [Fred] And someone wired up Marilyn's house 1111 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,880 on behalf of Hoffa. 1112 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,080 Bobby Kennedy was there many times. 1113 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,040 There were more tapes made out of Robert Kennedy and Monroe, 1114 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,800 as opposed to Jack Kennedy and Monroe. 1115 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,880 [suspenseful music playing] 1116 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,720 [Anthony] I managed to get to Bobby Kennedy's 1117 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,600 personal secretary at the Justice Department. 1118 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,280 [woman] This is in '62, shortly before her death. 1119 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,920 It must have been that summer. 1120 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,520 Whenever she called, 1121 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,600 and I would always answer the attorney general's personal calls, 1122 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,560 she would talk to me. 1123 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,760 It was as though she were reaching out. 1124 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,680 [Anthony] Right. 1125 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,760 [Angie] And Bob would call her back, and they'd talk. 1126 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:05,680 [Anthony] Oh, yes. Here it is. 1127 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,200 An FBI file on Marilyn 1128 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,040 that dealt with security matters, 1129 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,920 national intelligence, 1130 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,800 and the subject line, Marilyn Monroe SM-C, 1131 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,560 for security matter, communist. 1132 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,480 The FBI had long watched Marilyn, 1133 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,120 especially at the time she was married to Arthur Miller, 1134 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,520 who was supposed to be a communist and had joined up for a little while. 1135 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,360 It was the middle of the Cold War. 1136 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,920 [newscaster] The entire globe, 1137 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,320 yesterday, the site of a momentous conflict. 1138 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,880 The conflict which has become known as the Cold War. 1139 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,320 The long, dangerous standoff between the United States 1140 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,120 and the communist Soviet Union. 1141 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,640 [reporter 1] The Communist Bloc would like to see the world 1142 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,160 under communist domination. 1143 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,200 [reporter 2] Recently, we've seen it extend into turbulent Cuba. 1144 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,520 Does that disturb you? It should. 1145 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,800 [Anthony] Nuclear war was a constant threat. 1146 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,400 [reporter 3] You are in the crosshairs of the bombsight. 1147 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,280 [host] A massive nuclear intercontinental capability. 1148 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,520 The communist plan for world domination. 1149 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,200 It is a contest unlike any we have ever faced in our history as a nation. 1150 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,520 [Anthony] A March 1962 document, 1151 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,280 during a trip to Mexico, 1152 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,280 Marilyn spent time with friends, 1153 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,000 known American communists and left-wingers. 1154 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,040 They'd been kicked out of America. 1155 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,160 She told one of them, Fred Vanderbilt Field, 1156 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,080 of a talk she'd had with Bobby Kennedy about politics. 1157 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,920 She'd mingled with communist American expats. 1158 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,640 And FBI agents had been watching. 1159 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,200 To the intelligence agencies, 1160 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,640 the Kennedys' celebrity plaything, 1161 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,080 a volatile creature running to her psychiatrist every day, 1162 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,680 chattering on the telephone to all and sundry, 1163 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,960 was absolutely the wrong woman 1164 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,000 to be on intimate terms with the president and the attorney general. 1165 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,120 [man] I remember when she sang for the president. 1166 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,080 [Anthony] This was only a month or two before she died, of course. 1167 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,680 [Henry] And she was so excited about it. 1168 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,920 'Cause, "Why, the president of the United States," you know. 1169 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,200 You know, it was one of the most exciting things of her life. 1170 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,960 President is winding up his New York day here at Madison Square Garden 1171 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,840 in a sort of pre-birthday celebration. 1172 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,320 Mr. Kennedy has the best seat in the house at the function, 1173 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,520 and it will be starting just about now, the finale for this affair. 1174 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,840 Mr. President, 1175 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,600 on this occasion of your birthday, this lovely lady, Marilyn Monroe. 1176 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,760 -[crowd cheering] -[applause] 1177 01:08:53,480 --> 01:08:57,920 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1178 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:04,600 ♪ Happy birthday, Mr. President ♪ 1179 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,760 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1180 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,760 ♪ We thank you so much ♪ 1181 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,520 Everybody! Happy birthday! 1182 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,280 [orchestra plays] 1183 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,240 [Henry] Just being the one to sing. 1184 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,800 She was picked. 1185 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,240 [ominous music playing] 1186 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,360 -[whirs, distorted voice] -[Henry] She was picked. 1187 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,800 The one. 1188 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,120 [Anthony] Two documents that make extraordinary reading. 1189 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,960 On July the 13th, 1962, 1190 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,440 an unnamed informant quoted Marilyn as saying she'd just days earlier 1191 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:58,160 lunched with President Kennedy at Peter Lawford's house on the beach. 1192 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:03,160 They had, she said, discussed the morality of atomic testing, 1193 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:08,640 and Marilyn was described as positively and concisely leftist. 1194 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,680 And they especially get in a state when Marilyn had spent time with Robert Kennedy 1195 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,120 at the home of the Peter Lawfords in Hollywood. 1196 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,000 He had been in California, had seen her there, 1197 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,920 and then headed to Nevada 1198 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,400 to witness a nuclear weapons test. 1199 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:30,960 Now remember, 1200 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,680 at that very time, 1201 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,280 Cuba's Fidel Castro 1202 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,800 was making urgent appeals to the Soviet Union for military help. 1203 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,360 Khrushchev shipped ballistic missiles to Cuba, 1204 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,240 dozens of miles from Florida. 1205 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:55,800 Nuclear matters were the dominating international issue… 1206 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,640 and they were just loose-lipped. 1207 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,200 They were bloody idiots, weren't they? 1208 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,520 Because she was in touch with people who were regarded as communist, 1209 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,400 all of whom were talking to Fidel Castro's people. 1210 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,000 The political risk was extreme. 1211 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,400 This is very possibly the thing to which the Kennedys said, 1212 01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:24,400 "Shit." 1213 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,720 "She can make public that we've been discussing nuclear matters 1214 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,200 at this critical time." 1215 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,160 "We've got to stop all this." 1216 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,600 "We can't deal with Marilyn Monroe anymore." 1217 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,240 [ominous music continues] 1218 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,280 [Arthur] We met in Laguna. 1219 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,720 [Anthony] Uh-huh. 1220 01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,680 [Arthur] A month before she died. 1221 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,520 [Anthony] Was that just for supper or something? 1222 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,960 She came down for the weekend. 1223 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,760 And… she told us the… 1224 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,520 What had really taken place with the Kennedys. 1225 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,720 [Anthony] Huh. 1226 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,240 [Arthur] I can… You know, I can go into the dirt, 1227 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,920 or I can go into lots of other things, 1228 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,240 but she… She was… 1229 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,480 She was, uh, hurt. 1230 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,960 Terribly hurt when… [hesitates] …she was told directly 1231 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,920 never to call or contact again. 1232 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,960 [Anthony] Not to talk to Robert anymore? 1233 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,720 -Robert or John. -[Anthony] Right. 1234 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,520 They had both said, "That's it. No more"? 1235 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,440 [Arthur] Well, no, that was an order. 1236 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,200 [Anthony] But both of them had said to her, "That's the end of it"? 1237 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,600 -[Arthur] No, Jack didn't contact her. -[Anthony] Yeah. 1238 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,800 [Arthur] Bob did. 1239 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:43,880 [Anthony] I see. 1240 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,600 [Arthur] And that's what killed her. 1241 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,280 [Anthony exhales] 1242 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,920 [Arthur] I don't care what anyone else says. 1243 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,080 It was the beginning of the last day, if you will. 1244 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,280 [somber music playing] 1245 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,560 [Anthony] How did she seem? 1246 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:04,920 [Gloria] Prior to her death? 1247 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,480 -[Anthony] Yeah. -[Gloria] Uh… 1248 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,640 She had been mixing drink and sleeping pills. 1249 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,120 [Anthony] I find varying accounts. She was really on the downward path. 1250 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,040 I thought she very definitely was on the downward path. 1251 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,360 And I just never could quite understand whether 1252 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,000 she understood there was help to be had 1253 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,200 and people did care about her. 1254 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,000 And whether she was just… 1255 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,280 letting go. 1256 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,400 [Marilyn] I like to stay here and now. 1257 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,840 Fame is fickle. 1258 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,920 It had its compensation. 1259 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,200 But… it also has its drawbacks. 1260 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,400 And I know it. 1261 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,880 I've had you, fame. 1262 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:04,480 So long! 1263 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,600 [announcer 1] One of the most famous stars in Hollywood history is dead at 36. 1264 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,640 [reporter] Her housekeeper, Eunice Murray, 1265 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,720 found the actress dead in bed, 1266 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,000 holding in one hand a telephone, which was off its hook. 1267 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,000 Bottle of sleeping pills near her bed. 1268 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,120 [announcer 2] No notes were found. 1269 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,640 [announcer 3] The coroner ruled the cause of death an overdose of drugs. 1270 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,000 It is our opinion, probable suicide. 1271 01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,440 Well, the official finding will never tell the story 1272 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,200 of her life and end. 1273 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,520 [Anthony] Marilyn Monroe's death was just a huge event, 1274 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,680 pages and pages and pages. 1275 01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:05,840 Question marks. 1276 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,640 Dig, dig, dig. 1277 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,280 Over two years. 1278 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,360 Hollywood, 1279 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:18,520 Los Angeles, 1280 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,640 the bugging, the eavesdropping. 1281 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,680 Had she been murdered? 1282 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,840 John F. Kennedy, 1283 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,600 Robert Kennedy, 1284 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,040 Jimmy Hoffa. 1285 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:32,680 Rumor. 1286 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,040 White House files, FBI files. 1287 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,920 Honesty. 1288 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,520 Assembling the facts. 1289 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,600 And… 1290 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,880 Marilyn's death. 1291 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,680 Focus, focus, focus. 1292 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,760 The public version of the story, 1293 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120 the accepted version in 1962, 1294 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,080 turns on the word of Mrs. Murray, 1295 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,440 Marilyn's housekeeper, and of Dr. Greenson. 1296 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,600 On Saturday, August 4th, her final day alive, 1297 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,960 at about 8:00 p.m., according to Mrs. Murray, 1298 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,320 Marilyn went into her bedroom and closed the door. 1299 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,200 Then perhaps sometime after 3:00 a.m., 1300 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,160 she woke to find the light still on. 1301 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,360 The door, Mrs. Murray said, was locked. 1302 01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:33,640 Worried, she phoned psychiatrist Greenson. 1303 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,920 He got up and drove the mile and a half to Marilyn's house. 1304 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,120 According to him, he then managed to peer through a window 1305 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,040 to see Marilyn lying facedown on the bed. 1306 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,400 Having broken a window and climbed in, Greenson said, he had told Mrs. Murray, 1307 01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:48,920 "We've lost her." 1308 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,960 They called the police, according to police records, at 4:25 a.m. 1309 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,400 4:25. 1310 01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:03,160 The original timeline has been a fixed point of the official story, 1311 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,800 but I had significant breakthroughs on that front. 1312 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:12,480 The biggest breakthrough I had was when I got to the widow of Arthur Jacobs, 1313 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,640 the man who ran Marilyn Monroe's public relations. 1314 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,840 Natalie Jacobs told me that that evening, 1315 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,000 she and her husband had been at the Hollywood Bowl 1316 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,600 listening to a Henry Mancini concert. 1317 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,240 [Natalie] I will never forget that night 1318 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,720 because we were at the Hollywood Bowl, 1319 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:38,000 and someone, I don't know who it was, that came to us, 1320 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,800 and all I remember is that we were no longer 1321 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,000 at the Hollywood Bowl, if you know what I mean. 1322 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,400 [Anthony] Yes. So when would you think you heard the news 1323 01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:46,520 and had to leave the Bowl? 1324 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,680 About half past ten. 1325 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,840 [Anthony] And you then left and went home, and he went to Marilyn's place? 1326 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,320 -Exactly. -[Anthony] Right. 1327 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,960 An attendant had come and called her husband from the auditorium 1328 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,520 and brought him to the telephone 1329 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,000 because something was terribly wrong at Marilyn Monroe's house. 1330 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,080 Now, how does one account for the fact that 1331 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,800 the housekeeper is supposed to have called Dr. Greenson, 1332 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,640 and he is supposed to have got in at 3:30 in the morning 1333 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,600 and found Marilyn lying dead on the bed, 1334 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,680 nobody else in the house except the housekeeper? 1335 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,960 That's not true because my husband was there. 1336 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,560 [Anthony] Yes, and had been there for some hours by that time. 1337 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,680 That's correct. 1338 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,840 -[Anthony] Remember, the official story-- -My husband fudged everything off. 1339 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,760 [Anthony] Ah. 1340 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,000 I cannot tell you why because he's no longer with us, as you know. 1341 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,960 -[Anthony] He didn't tell you why-- -Don't forget, that was his business. 1342 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,600 To keep the press at bay. He kept everyone in abeyance. 1343 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,280 [Anthony] Okay. [inhales] 1344 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:43,720 The important thing is that she stresses that this was well before midnight. 1345 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,440 I found corroboration for what Natalie Jacobs had told me. 1346 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,240 A member of Arthur Jacobs' staff, Juliet Roswell. 1347 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,360 And I find my original handwritten note, 1348 01:18:56,440 --> 01:19:01,240 um, in which she says that Jacobs did say, 1349 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,680 "I went out to Monroe's house at eleven o'clock at night." 1350 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,880 You couldn't have Mrs. Murray, the housekeeper, finding Marilyn dead 1351 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,800 at three o'clock in the morning 1352 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,200 and also Arthur Jacobs being called away from the concert 1353 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,280 as early as eleven o'clock. 1354 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,320 What was going on at the house between 11:00 p.m. and 3:00 a.m.? 1355 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,480 Clearly a key question. And in the end, we got answers to it. 1356 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:33,640 I found the DA had been contacted by a former ambulance man. 1357 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,440 And he said that he'd been aboard an ambulance 1358 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,240 that had gone to Marilyn Monroe's house that night. 1359 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,680 -[DA] What happened? -[man] What do you mean? 1360 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,280 [DA] Did you go into the house? 1361 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,120 -[Ken] Yeah. -[DA] Did you see Monroe's body? 1362 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,360 [Ken] Yeah, she was on the bed. 1363 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,800 [DA] Do you recall whether she was on her back or stomach? 1364 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,800 [Ken] Side. 1365 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,720 -[DA] She was on her side. -[Ken] Yes. 1366 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,600 [Anthony] His allegation stood all by itself. 1367 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,720 So I made my way to the offices of Schaefer Ambulance 1368 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,240 and talked to Mr. Schaefer himself, Walt Schaefer. 1369 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,320 -[dial tone] -[distorted voice] 1370 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,760 [Anthony] Forgive me troubling you. 1371 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,000 I talked to Ken Hunter, who used to drive for you. 1372 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:11,920 [Walt] Yeah? 1373 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,360 [Anthony] And Ken Hunter said one of your ambulances was called, 1374 01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:21,640 what, during the night? 1375 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,840 -[Walt] Yeah. -[Anthony] Do you know where it took her? 1376 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,000 [Walt] Took her to Santa Monica emergency. 1377 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,080 [Anthony] Now the reason that puzzled me 1378 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,360 was that according to all the public reports, 1379 01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:32,200 in the end she was dead at home. 1380 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,360 [Walt] No, she wasn't. 1381 01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:36,840 [Anthony] Your impression is she was alive but presumably somewhat comatose. 1382 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:37,920 [Walt] Yes, that's right. 1383 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,800 [Anthony] I mean, you're quite certain? You'd put money on it? 1384 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:41,720 [Walt] Yeah. 1385 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,280 [Anthony] She was picked up and taken, 1386 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,360 -comatose, to the hospital… -[Walt] Right. 1387 01:20:46,440 --> 01:20:49,080 …and that was the end so far as Schaefer's were concerned? 1388 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,160 [Walt] It's the truth. 1389 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,560 And what's more, I found no less than seven members of Schaefer Ambulance, 1390 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,000 who corroborated the notion that she had been carried that night. 1391 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,360 And this is a huge development in the story. 1392 01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:06,720 But then, it would have been between the two drivers and-- 1393 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080 -[Walt] The other people involved. -[Anthony] Involved. 1394 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,880 [Walt] I don't know who was involved. 1395 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,680 [microphone crackles] 1396 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,680 [Anthony] Could you just summarize for me what Greenson told you 1397 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,920 and when it probably was that he told you it? 1398 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,960 Greenson and I were both at a… at a lunch. 1399 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,040 I was sitting next to him at the table. 1400 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,360 -[Anthony] Yes. -[Sherlock] And… 1401 01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:34,160 This is after she died. '64, somewhere like that. 1402 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,960 Quite closely related to her death. 1403 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,400 [Anthony] The question was whether she died in the ambulance 1404 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:40,400 or whether she got to the hospital, 1405 01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:44,280 and as I remember, Greenson told you that, yes, she'd been taken away by ambulance 1406 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,680 and that she got to a hospital. Isn't that right? 1407 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,120 They took her to St. John's. 1408 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,600 [Anthony] St. John's Hospital. Just recap on it for me. 1409 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,320 And that she died in the ambulance. 1410 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,280 Then they took her back to the house. That was what he told me. 1411 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,360 [Anthony] She died on the way, and the ambulance brought her body back. 1412 01:21:58,440 --> 01:21:59,280 [Sherlock] Right… 1413 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,800 [Anthony] Greenson didn't say he was with the ambulance, did he? 1414 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,160 [Sherlock] Yeah, he did! He told me that he was in the ambulance. 1415 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,280 [Anthony] But he never reflected any of that to you? 1416 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,000 Um… 1417 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,280 Yeah, I just don't feel comfortable telling you what he told me. 1418 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,360 [Anthony] I mean, about, for instance, that weekend when it had happened. 1419 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:20,440 She died. 1420 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,160 This sort of thing was not talked about. 1421 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,920 -People of that magnitude. -[Hildi] Yeah. 1422 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,320 Also, he wouldn't want to burden me with 1423 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,320 a knowledge that I would then have to hide. 1424 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,000 [Anthony] Who was actually at the house? 1425 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,640 And what were they doing? Why were they there? 1426 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,440 -[tape rewinding] -[suspenseful music playing] 1427 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,920 [phone line ringing, connects] 1428 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,840 [man] Hello? 1429 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:46,960 Hello, Bill Woodfield? 1430 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:47,880 [Bill] Yes. 1431 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,360 [Anthony] Hi, evening. Um… 1432 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,640 [Bill] I don't want to go through it with Marilyn again because, uh… 1433 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,720 [Anthony] I respect that the journalism that you did in two or three days, 1434 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,360 and which it appears to me, nobody else tried seriously to do 1435 01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:06,600 or has done since-- 1436 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,160 Listen, I don't know really anything else that I feel that I ought to do. 1437 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,400 [Anthony] I would like you-- 1438 01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:14,520 -Tony! -[Anthony] Yeah? 1439 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,280 This has not had any interest for me in a long time. 1440 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,840 I went in, did my number, took my money and got out of the business! 1441 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,560 [Anthony] I would frankly like you on board in some way. 1442 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,120 Find out where Bobby Kennedy was that weekend. 1443 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,360 [Anthony inhales] Yeah. 1444 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,280 It's January the 24th, 1984, 1445 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:39,120 in the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles with Harry Hall. 1446 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,920 [Harry] Do you wanna ask me something or-- 1447 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,480 [Anthony] Yes, I thought maybe I'd kick you off. 1448 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,840 You said yesterday that you knew something about the events. 1449 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,400 Did you learn anything about Bobby's movements the weekend Marilyn died? 1450 01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,680 Yeah, I had heard, 1451 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,920 on good authority, that the Saturday that this happened, 1452 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,400 Bobby had come into town. 1453 01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,920 Bobby was in town and supposedly left. 1454 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,600 And when I say I heard it, I heard it from a federal agent. 1455 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,640 [Anthony] Can you tell me which agency? 1456 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,880 [Harry] Yes. It was definitely from the FBI. 1457 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,640 [tape rewinding] 1458 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,880 [Anthony] Were you aware that Bobby was in town? 1459 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280 I think he was at Peter's house at the beach. 1460 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,200 [Anthony] Yes. 1461 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:27,440 Yeah, that's what I… 1462 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,040 In fact, I… [hesitates] I must say, yes, I… I do remember that. 1463 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,440 -He was. -[Anthony] Right. 1464 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,760 -He was at Peter's house at the beach. -[Anthony] Right. 1465 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:45,440 Somebody said the guy you certainly need to speak to is a guy called Reed Wilson. 1466 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,240 The only thing is that he won't talk to you. 1467 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,360 Wilson was renowned in government and business circles 1468 01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:55,160 as one of the most effective, discreet eavesdropping operatives 1469 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,760 in the United States. 1470 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,840 He was working directly for Fred Otash. 1471 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,000 Last week, I did go to see him, Fred Otash. 1472 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,240 And no sooner had I sat down at his table 1473 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,920 than he said, "Have you been talking to Reed Wilson?" 1474 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,680 [Reed] Well, I hope your phone is clean. 1475 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,200 [Anthony laughs] I hope so too. Yes. 1476 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,680 -[Reed] Which is a good question. -[Anthony] Yes. 1477 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,680 Did Freddy, uh, cooperate? And if you don't wanna tell me, okay. 1478 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,520 But I can call Fred. He'll tell me. 1479 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,200 [Anthony] He said that Reed, in my experience, 1480 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,320 had never been known to be a liar. 1481 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,600 Well, you're talking to a lot of people, and, you know, 1482 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,560 you're obviously really intent on getting into this thing. 1483 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,800 [Anthony] It was difficult to get to him. 1484 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,320 I had to meet him at various locations 1485 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,520 at points when he didn't show up, but I knew that I was being watched. 1486 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,200 And eventually came close to getting his full confidence. 1487 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,320 So I'm not at all of the mind of the loony people 1488 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,600 who write books saying she was murdered. 1489 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,080 [Reed] That Marilyn was murdered is baloney. 1490 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,600 [Anthony] Straighten me out a bit. 1491 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,800 -[Reed] I'll put you straight on it. -[Anthony] Yeah. 1492 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,000 [Reed] First of all, what did Freddy tell you? 1493 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,400 [Anthony] He said… 1494 01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:16,120 There were tapes recorded the day of her death. 1495 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,080 [Anthony] Right. 1496 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,600 Bobby Kennedy called her the night of her death from Lawford's house. 1497 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,120 And she said, you know, "Don't bother me. Leave me alone. Stay out of my life." 1498 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,320 A very violent argument, that, you know, "I feel passed around, I feel used, 1499 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,760 I feel like a piece of meat." 1500 01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:34,360 [Anthony] He said he thought shenanigans 1501 01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:37,720 got Monroe in a terrible state of mind before she died. 1502 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,240 [Reed] Now, that's true. 1503 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,360 -What you just said is true. -[Anthony] Right. 1504 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,440 She was raising a stink, 1505 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,880 calling the broth… Calling John and the White House 1506 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,040 and complaining about the situation. 1507 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,320 -[Anthony] Because of the brother. -[Reed] Yes. The picture that I remember 1508 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,960 is that she'd been hot and heavy for… for Bob. 1509 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,600 -[Anthony] Yes. -[Reed] At first. 1510 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,600 And then, she'd gotten the cold shoulder, or somehow or other, it had turned. 1511 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,240 -Now the details of that, I don't know. -[Anthony] Right. 1512 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,440 [Reed] But she had come to the point where she felt like 1513 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,480 -she was just being used. -[Anthony] Yes. 1514 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,880 [Reed] And that's where it was at about the time the end came. 1515 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,800 -[Anthony] Right. -[Reed] She was upset and heartbro… 1516 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,800 I don't know whether-- I don't think she was heartbroken. 1517 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,480 I don't think that it was a thing of being heartbroken. 1518 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,760 It was a thing of feeling taken advantage of and feeling 1519 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:34,200 a lot of lies and feeling that she was just being… 1520 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,040 Had come to where she said, you know, "I don't even want to see you." 1521 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,840 You know, and, "Why did you come here?" 1522 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,600 You know, "If you want to see me, you come to see me." 1523 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,680 -You know, "I'm not coming down there." -[Anthony] Right. 1524 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,360 The call to the White House thing, 1525 01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:52,960 I understood it to mean that, like she was calling to say, you know, 1526 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,680 "Get your brother away from me. I hate all of you." 1527 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,320 -That type of thing. -[Anthony] Right. 1528 01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,680 [Reed] There was a turning point in her feelings. 1529 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:00,960 [Anthony] Right. 1530 01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:03,480 [somber music playing] 1531 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,480 Like a piece of meat, used, passed around. 1532 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,280 [Anthony] Eminent men… again. 1533 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,880 [Reed] I don't think she was heartbroken. 1534 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,480 Feeling used. 1535 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:18,560 [Anthony] Again and again. 1536 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,800 -[Reed] "I hate all of you." -[tape clicks] 1537 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,400 [ominous music playing] 1538 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:35,680 [microphone crackles] 1539 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,080 [woman] I appreciate very much your calling. 1540 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,400 I think about you once in a while. 1541 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,800 [Eunice] The Kennedys were a very important part of Marilyn's life. 1542 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,120 I wasn't included in this information, but I was a witness to what was happening. 1543 01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,040 [Anthony] And he was here that day? 1544 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,920 -[Eunice] Oh, sure. -[Anthony] That afternoon? 1545 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:01,840 [Eunice] Yes. 1546 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,440 And it became so sticky 1547 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,720 that the protectors of Robert Kennedy, you know, 1548 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,600 had to step in there and protect him. 1549 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,600 [indistinct voices] 1550 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,040 [Anthony] Was it your impression there was any kind of FBI investigation 1551 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,960 of her death? 1552 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,040 Not an investigation, but rather a "hush-hush." 1553 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:27,280 Because the man that really was involved was the boss. 1554 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,680 He was the attorney general, so he could have the FBI do anything. 1555 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:31,640 People that knew, 1556 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,920 they knew that they didn't want Bobby Kennedy's name brought into this, 1557 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,960 again, because his brother was president. 1558 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,800 They had done everything to hush this up. 1559 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,560 [Anthony] Billy Woodfield, 1560 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,800 one of the reporters working on the case, 1561 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,880 in the days following her death, got lucky. 1562 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,560 [Bill] We sort of started to piece together what happened. 1563 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,200 Press accounts were coming out, and they didn't make a lot of sense to us. 1564 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,720 And so we started playing detective. 1565 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,880 I pieced together the notion that a helicopter was used 1566 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,920 and went out to see a helicopter pilot. 1567 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,480 And I said, "Can I look at your log? Have you got a log?" 1568 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:16,400 And he said, "Sure!" 1569 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,480 And he produced his log, and I started thumbing through it. 1570 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,240 And I saw an entry that said 1571 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,800 that he took Kennedy to meet a flight en route to San Francisco. 1572 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,480 [Anthony] And the time roughly is-- 1573 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,960 Two or three in the morning. 1574 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,600 [Anthony] And apart from seeing the log, you mentioned it to him, 1575 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,560 and he said, "Yes, I did that." 1576 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,080 -[Bill] Yeah. -[Anthony] Yeah. 1577 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,800 And he confirmed that he'd done that one that night. Yeah. 1578 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,680 You called in to The Herald Tribune, and they called back and said, no-- 1579 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,520 Well, also a call was made to Bobby Kennedy's people. 1580 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,560 [Anthony] You were trying to confirm that he had been in town. 1581 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,320 That's right, and that he had been at the beach house and that he had flown out. 1582 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,200 That that was one reason for the delay. 1583 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,360 The message we got back was that Kennedy 1584 01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:03,080 would appreciate it if we didn't do the story. 1585 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,760 We decided that we would not go with the story. 1586 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,560 [ominous music playing] 1587 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,960 [Reed] Uh… What did Freddy tell you about that? 1588 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,960 [Anthony] He talked to me about the middle of the night tale, you know? 1589 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,080 [Reed] But I mean, the only people that would know about that 1590 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,120 would be the people at the meeting. 1591 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,160 [Anthony] That's right. 1592 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,480 In the early dawn hours after Marilyn was found dead, 1593 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:39,480 ironically, Wilson had been hired with Otash by Lawford 1594 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,200 to clear her house of information that might compromise the Kennedys. 1595 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,920 Lawford showed up completely disorientated 1596 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,360 and in a state of shock, saying that Marilyn Monroe was dead, 1597 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,440 that Bobby Kennedy was there, 1598 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,800 that they had gotten in a big fight, 1599 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,000 that he was spirited out of town back up north, 1600 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,760 and that he'd like to have me make arrangements 1601 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,160 to have someone go out to the house 1602 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,400 and pick up any and all information 1603 01:32:07,480 --> 01:32:09,840 that was possible regarding any involvement 1604 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,200 between Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys. 1605 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,480 He was convinced there was diaries around and maybe a note. 1606 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,440 [Anthony] There's only one surviving photograph 1607 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,040 of Marilyn with the Kennedy brothers. 1608 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,640 It was taken at a party 1609 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:34,040 following the star-studded extravaganza for JFK at Madison Square Garden. 1610 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,040 Other photos would be seized from at least one picture agency 1611 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,520 shortly after Marilyn's death 1612 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,600 by men claiming to be FBI. 1613 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:51,000 And also the covert recordings of Marilyn and each of the Kennedy brothers 1614 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,560 may have been seized by law enforcement. 1615 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,080 Can I speak to Jim Doyle, please? 1616 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,240 -[woman] One moment, please. -Doyle. 1617 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,280 [Anthony] As far as the actual records being removed, 1618 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,320 you were aware of that from your colleagues? 1619 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,080 -[Jim] Yes. -[Anthony] This had occurred? 1620 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,840 -[Jim] Oh yeah. It did happen. -[Anthony] Right. 1621 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,560 [Jim] I was there at the time when she died. 1622 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,720 There were some people there that normally wouldn't have been there. 1623 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,280 -[Anthony] Bureau people? -[Jim] Yes. 1624 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,000 [Anthony] Are you aware how long afterwards they came on the scene? 1625 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,480 [Jim] Immediately. Before anybody even realized what had happened. 1626 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,800 It had to be instructions from someone high up, higher than Hoover. 1627 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,000 [Anthony] Schoolboy question, who's higher than Hoover? 1628 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,320 -[Jim] The general or the president. -[Anthony] Yes. 1629 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:39,320 [Jim] The only two. 1630 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:40,240 [Anthony] Yes. 1631 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,720 There have been several conspiracy stories. 1632 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,280 There are people, on very thin evidence, 1633 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,720 I think largely made-up evidence, who suggest that 1634 01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:01,680 people wanted to hide the precise circumstances of her death 1635 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,360 because Marilyn was murdered. 1636 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,320 Although I made a lot of progress in the work 1637 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,280 and indeed found out things to do with her dying 1638 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:20,520 and the circumstances of her dying, which had not been found out before, 1639 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,760 I did not find out anything that 1640 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,920 convinced me that she had been deliberately killed. 1641 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,080 She died committing suicide 1642 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,960 or taking a huge accidental overdose of drugs. 1643 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,160 But I did find evidence the circumstances of her death 1644 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,320 had been deliberately covered up. 1645 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:50,000 If you then say to me, why were those circumstances covered up? 1646 01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:55,440 I would say that the evidence suggests it was covered up 1647 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,640 because of her connection with the Kennedy brothers. 1648 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,840 [poignant music playing] 1649 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,400 [Reed] She was raising a stink. 1650 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,040 She was… 1651 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:15,320 She… 1652 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,000 [poignant music continues] 1653 01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:41,920 [Anthony] In 1982, 1654 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,840 following a district attorney's review of the case, 1655 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,200 the original finding remained unchanged. 1656 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,680 [man] Well, as far as the Los Angeles District Attorney is concerned, 1657 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,680 she killed herself, either on purpose or accidentally. 1658 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,800 The Marilyn Monroe case is closed. 1659 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,880 [Marilyn] The true things rarely get into circulation. 1660 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,000 It's usually the false things. 1661 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,840 It's hard to know where to start if you don't start with the truth. 1662 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,440 [Anthony] The Kennedys' brother-in-law, actor Peter Lawford, 1663 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:27,440 that key character in the cover-up, 1664 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,040 he agreed to talk to me. 1665 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,360 Just a shadow of the man that he had once been. 1666 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:36,240 Lost. 1667 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,160 [Lawford] I checked the operator for… 1668 01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,240 -Out of order. -[Anthony] Hmm. 1669 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,440 [Lawford] The operator said the phone's off the hook. 1670 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:48,640 [Anthony] Hmm. 1671 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,000 Hey, it's all right. Forget it. Let's have a drink. 1672 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,160 [indistinct voices] 1673 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,560 [Lawford] She was dead… 1674 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,960 I've had to live with it… 1675 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,440 I should have got in my car and gone up there. 1676 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,640 [voice breaks] I should have known better. 1677 01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:18,840 [Marilyn] When I was a kid, 1678 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,160 sitting in the front row… 1679 01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,840 at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 1680 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,680 and I'd think how wonderful it would be to be an actress. 1681 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,280 Everything that I would see. 1682 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,240 And… 1683 01:37:45,480 --> 01:37:46,440 I… 1684 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,800 I wanted to know. 1685 01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,080 I would like to be a good actress. 1686 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,040 [somber music playing]