1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Oh, uh, I'd like to ask you, 4 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,880 how do you go about writing a life story? 5 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,400 Because… 6 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:40,280 …the true things rarely get into circulation. 7 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,600 It's usually the false things. 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,000 If you ever get any of those things you want to ask, I'll tell you. 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,200 All of those things come from the truth, you know? 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Because otherwise, it's hard to know where to start 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,600 if you don't start with the truth. 12 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,160 After 20 years, it's time to clear up this case. 13 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Monroe died from an overdose of sleeping pills. 14 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speculation surrounding Monroe's death continues to this day. 15 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,760 The charge is Marilyn Monroe was murdered. 16 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Someone in the CIA killed Monroe. 17 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,880 She was very frightened. 18 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,440 There's a great myth around her. 19 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,360 I hope your phone is clean. 20 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Nobody ever knew everything. 21 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Marilyn Monroe, the Golden Girl of Hollywood. 22 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 The dazzling fame of Marilyn Monroe 23 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 delights the critics and attracts the public in swarms. 24 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Marilyn Monroe was this era's sex symbol. 25 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Marilyn Monroe trod the summit of her profession. 26 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Something remarkable happened 27 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 when she stepped before a camera. 28 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,000 A queen in her own realm of entertainment. 29 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,000 She was adored by millions. 30 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,240 A self-illuminating body, a star. 31 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Tony, I have often said that I could put together 32 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,000 a scenario that would absolutely blow the minds of anybody who read it, 33 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,280 but it would be terribly costly to government agencies, 34 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,600 friends of mine, to people I know. 35 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 - Yeah. -I don't think I want to do that. 36 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,360 But I never talk to the press ever, ever, ever. 37 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 But I can't say anything, and I knew it all. 38 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,840 - Except it's a waste of your time. - Why? 39 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 I don't want to be the one who sets the record straight. 40 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,360 -But, I mean, I don't know you. - Fine. 41 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,600 Let it be. 42 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,320 Hollywood, 43 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 brilliant tinsel city of lights and fantasy. 44 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Hollywood, 45 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 glorified, glittering, fascinating, fabulous mythical kingdom. 46 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Hollywood, the glamour capital of the world. 47 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,960 When I was a kid, and I remember at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 48 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Let's take a spin down the Boulevard and see what we can find! 49 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,720 …I'd never come out of the movie. They'd have to come get me. 50 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Ah, Garbo! 51 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,160 Bad, good, didn't matter. 52 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Hollywood's playground! 53 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Anything that would move on the screen. 54 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,880 And here inside the gates, 55 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,960 there's more stars than the Milky Way! 56 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 If you don't believe it, just follow us! 57 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 My favorite was Jean Harlow. 58 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 -She had white hair. - 59 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 The one and only Marlene Dietrich! 60 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Cary Grant arrives with his best grin. 61 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 As usual, Cary has a genial greeting for everybody! 62 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,600 And Clark Gable. 63 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Clark walked into the forecourt… 64 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,680 The crowd is still shouting for their favorite! 65 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,840 Although I was a kid and I didn't know anything about acting, 66 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,120 I… 67 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,440 I wanted to know. 68 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,080 Talking. 69 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Yup. 70 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,560 -Marilyn Monroe. I knew her very well. - You did? 71 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,920 - I'm talking about in the beginning. - Yes. 72 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 - When she was a kid. - At that time-- 73 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Well, I was… Al Rosen Agency was one of the top agencies in the business. 74 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,320 - Right. - I handled Cary Grant, Fredric March. 75 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 -Jack Oakie, Judy Garland, you know. - Right. 76 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,480 But, you see, the history of this business is 77 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,440 you got one thing, I'll guarantee it, which you didn't know about. 78 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 -In this business, in the golden years… - Yeah. 79 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,760 …every casting director, every studio used to have a black book, 80 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,120 you know what I mean? 81 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 So, every girl, you know, I'm talking about kids that were breaking in, 82 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,680 like Marilyn Monroe, you know, when they get started, 83 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,720 all the casting directors, 84 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,720 they would write in their black book who could be laid. 85 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,320 You see, the business has changed since then. 86 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Today, it's the buck. 87 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,440 It used to be sex. Remember that. 88 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Calling all girls! Calling all girls! 89 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 And now, all those lovely hopefuls have their chance. 90 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,200 The process of selecting just the right girls is a careful one. 91 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,800 My, my, what a smart looking crowd. 92 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Isn't she a honey? 93 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,440 Isn't she sweet? 94 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,040 Neck, 12 and a half. 95 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Bust, 34 and a half. 96 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Pride. Adventure. Ambition. 97 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,920 From the ends of the Earth they come, waiting for the magic call. 98 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Hello? 99 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,800 How can I help you? 100 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Well, my husband knew her first, early '40s. 101 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,280 Oh, yes. 102 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,640 You know, a generous girl, warm girl, really rather lovable. 103 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,480 She was very much on the restaurant scene and the club scene. 104 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,080 - But at Romanoff's. - Yeah. Enormous fun. 105 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,920 And it was quite exotic. 106 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,040 It had a real mélange of people, 107 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,800 and it was sort of the mecca for agents. 108 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,840 It had all of the film VIPs. 109 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,720 -All the pretty girls hung out there. - Right. 110 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,440 And Marilyn was among them, of course. 111 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,400 So young is Hollywood 112 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,040 that many of its earliest pioneers are still active in the industry. 113 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,680 Men like Joseph Schenck, chairman of the board of 20th Century Fox. 114 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,320 Mr. Schenck brought about an era of epic, dramatic screen stories. 115 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Oh, sure. Schenck was a human being. 116 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,520 -You know what I mean. - Yeah. 117 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,880 She had a bunch of 'em. He wasn't the only one. 118 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 There were a group who gathered at Schenck's. 119 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,320 -She was always very much at his house. - Yeah. 120 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 And she was beginning to make a few strides. 121 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:56,760 In 1948. 122 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Johnny Hyde, 123 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,720 who was a dear little man, wonderful little man… 124 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,240 -You know about him? - Yes. 125 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 - Johnny was in love with her. - Yeah. 126 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Johnny Hyde spoke to me about her first 127 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,880 and then brought her over to Metro. 128 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Just, uh, very fresh. 129 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,920 Very attractive. 130 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Rather timid. 131 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,200 Shy. 132 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,080 And, um we talked to her and gave her a script. 133 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,000 She went away and came back a day or two later, 134 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,720 and, well, Marilyn read her lines, 135 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,600 and she read them very beautifully, very well. 136 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,040 And there was no question. 137 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,480 She was ideal for the part. 138 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,000 - In The Asphalt Jungle? -Yes, indeed. 139 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,080 That was that. 140 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,680 Only once in a decade does the screen come up with 141 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,400 such absorbing characters. 142 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Marilyn Monroe as Angela, the easy-living, green-eyed blonde. 143 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Marilyn went right down into her own personal experience 144 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,960 for everything. 145 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,880 She would reach down and pull something out of herself 146 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,160 that was unique and extraordinary. 147 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,600 She found things about womankind in herself. 148 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,040 She had no technique. 149 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,520 It was all the truth. 150 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,280 It was only Marilyn, but she was Marilyn plus. 151 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 An award to the popular new star. 152 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,560 And as best young box office personality, Miss Marilyn Monroe. 153 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,760 Thank you, Mr. Nichols. 154 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 It's Marilyn Monroe, skyrocketing to new dramatic heights. 155 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Marilyn Monroe, all the moviegoers of America voted you 156 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,480 the most popular actress of the year. My congratulations. 157 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Thank you, Mr. Sammis. 158 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 -Congratulations! -Thank you, Lauren. 159 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,280 And my thanks to Look magazine. 160 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 A Hollywood incident that marks another salute 161 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,560 to Marilyn Monroe. 162 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Thank you. I thank you very much. 163 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,560 And now here comes a young lady who has 164 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 created a real sensation in the picture business, 165 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,720 having won all kinds of awards as the number one newcomer of the year. 166 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,760 And believe me, a swell gal with a… 167 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Take it from me, I've known her a long time, Miss Marilyn Monroe! 168 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Let's hear it! Come on out here, Marilyn! 169 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,200 With Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell. 170 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,880 Yes. 171 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,200 She was very bright, and she wanted to learn 172 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,200 and was interested in everything to, 173 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,320 -you know, help her control her career. - Right. 174 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,680 And every night after work, she would go to the coach. 175 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 - Yes. - We were going home exhausted. 176 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,760 She'd go to the coach. 177 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,680 But she wanted to be good. 178 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Then when… 179 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:18,080 …the camera went on, it was like a whole electric light went on in the, you know… 180 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,800 They just came to life. 181 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,480 I just felt like I was on the outside of the world, 182 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,760 and suddenly everything opened up. 183 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,680 The world became friendly. It opened up to me. 184 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,440 I said, "Gee, what happened?" 185 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,000 If I am a star, the people made me a star. 186 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,320 But I do want to be wonderful, you know. 187 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,760 I want to do the best that I can do in that moment. 188 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,200 When the camera starts until it stops. 189 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,120 That moment I want to be… perfect. 190 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,480 I'll tell you, 191 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,680 I'm terribly grateful 192 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,280 because I remember when… 193 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,920 things weren't like this at all. 194 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,080 I saw her a time or two. 195 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,400 -Years had gone by. - Yeah. 196 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,880 By now she was dressed to the T's, and she'd become the… 197 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,920 The sex symbol of this country. 198 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,960 And it wasn't… It wasn't just a sex thing at all. 199 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,920 Women felt just the same as men. 200 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,600 There was something deeply moving about Marilyn, always. 201 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,880 We were close during the picture, 202 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,560 and then we were… we, you know, considered ourselves friends, 203 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800 but Marilyn kind of went from one group to another. 204 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 She would take off, and it would be another group. 205 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,240 That would become the shell for a time. 206 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,800 She didn't go back and seek out any of the people 207 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,680 that had become close to her. 208 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,280 There was something so vulnerable, so… 209 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Something you felt 210 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,400 could be easily destroyed. 211 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,240 - Hello? - Hi. 212 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,920 Well, I hated Hollywood. My family knew enough Hollywood people. 213 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,960 You know, I had, at times, met movie stars at parties 214 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 and found the whole thing to be obnoxious. 215 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,400 My notion was these people were… were phoneys and narcissistic characters. 216 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,440 I hated 'em. 217 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,560 So when I heard that Dad was seeing Marilyn, 218 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,280 I was not jumping up and down and cheering. 219 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 He couldn't see her at the office. She was too goddamn famous. 220 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,720 He was seeing her at home. I thought, "What a bunch of bullshit." 221 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,520 I mean, here's the sex symbol of the world. 222 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Here is, you know, what womanhood should be in a nutshell. 223 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,160 I mean, there was something about Marilyn 224 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,400 -that put her apart from everybody else. - Yeah. 225 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280 But there were times, you know, that I would pick her up in my Hillman Minx, 226 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,600 -you know, and… - Yeah. 227 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Marilyn without makeup and a scarf over her hair and just sitting there, 228 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,880 you know, you wouldn't think would attract any kind of attention, 229 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,640 and yet, you know, I would suddenly have five people washing my windows. 230 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,720 -But there was just something. - Yeah. 231 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,960 It happened to me too. 232 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,760 No! No! 233 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,360 There was an at-homeness with her body 234 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,240 that very… I have never seen anybody else have. 235 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240 To be sort of almost animallike 236 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320 in their feel and their movement and… 237 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,600 You know, beautiful and very, in a sense, poetic. 238 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,280 And I'm not calling myself an orphan. 239 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,960 I was brought up a waif. 240 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Yeah, I was never used to being happy. 241 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 So that wasn't something I was sort of counting on. 242 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,600 In all the years he'd been doing that, 243 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 my father had never had a patient commit suicide. 244 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,360 He never treated anybody as unorthodoxly as he was treating her. 245 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:22,040 His feeling was that because of who she was, she could never be hospitalized. 246 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,520 So given that he couldn't do that, 247 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,320 his feeling was the best shot he had 248 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 was to try to treat her in this highly unusual, 249 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,440 unorthodox kind of way that he did. 250 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,080 She starts hanging out with the family. 251 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,720 That's how a sort of more of a friendliness then came about. 252 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,520 Before dinner, they would have cocktails. 253 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,760 And that would be where the sort of predinner conversation would go on. 254 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,240 She had a… a mind that searched 255 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,920 and an honest mind that tried to find whatever her truths were. 256 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,200 It must have been somewhere along the line 257 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,000 that I began to talk to her. 258 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,520 And it was in that particular setting that I slowly but surely got to know her, 259 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,360 because I certainly know that my opinion changes. 260 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Within that family, I was the new arrived left-winger. 261 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720 So, but we'd get into these conversations, 262 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,360 and lo and behold, you know, Marilyn would end up on my side. 263 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,080 - Right. - So a friendship developed. 264 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,680 I began to like her and to recognize that there was more to this person 265 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,200 than, uh… than met the eye. 266 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,200 Well, Marilyn told me that there was a new man in her life. 267 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640 No, that he was just, you know… you know, really terrific. 268 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960 -Neat. -And he was really neat 269 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,520 and, you know, cute and… 270 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960 I mean, it was that kind of… I mean, I remember-- 271 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840 -It was girly talk. - It was girly talk. 272 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,160 I mean, the… 273 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,240 She said that this person was so important that she wouldn't tell me who it was. 274 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Calling him "the general." 275 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,000 She was calling him "the general." 276 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920 -The general. - 277 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,840 And I remember feeling that it was real… 278 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,880 You know, it was real peculiar that here I'm sitting with Marilyn Monroe. 279 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,680 We're talking about boyfriends, and I'm meeting some schlub at art school. 280 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,800 I know that she's talking about somebody that's very big in the government. 281 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,200 And… and it sort of struck me as… 282 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,160 - Somehow this is bizarre. - You mean, you knew already-- 283 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,520 So I didn't know whether it was Bobby or the president. 284 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,720 - Yeah. - It was simply titillating. 285 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,920 I mean, I don't even remember the guy I had a crush on back then, 286 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,440 but it was certainly somebody that wasn't gonna hold a candle to that. 287 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,520 Yeah. 288 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960 There was more to this person than met the eye. 289 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,640 Family. 290 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,120 The general. 291 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600 This person was so important. 292 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560 Joe DiMaggio! Smacked one out of the park! 293 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,000 What a hit! Into the upper deck in left center field! 294 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520 He was a wonderful athlete. 295 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,800 DiMaggio connects. 296 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 I met him… he had already retired. 297 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640 I had very few friends. 298 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,840 It's just that 299 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,920 I like people, 300 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,800 but for friends, I like few people. 301 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,560 But I think she was quite taken with DiMaggio. 302 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,040 I saw him for around a year and a half, two years, and we married. 303 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360 Romance that thrills the world! 304 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360 The marriage of Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio. 305 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840 The girl who starred in How to Marry a Millionaire, 306 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520 giving another starring performance in How to Marry a Baseball Hero, 307 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600 and now the pair are off for their happy honeymoon. 308 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 He understood some things about me, and… 309 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520 I understood some things about him. 310 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520 We based our marriage on it. 311 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,360 And I say some things. 312 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,880 How have you and Mrs. DiMaggio enjoyed your trip to Japan? 313 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Everything has been fine. We've enjoyed our trip. 314 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,000 The only thing that I have to complain about is I haven't seen much of Marilyn. 315 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 She is making a trip to Korea, 316 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720 touring through the camps and so, 317 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 maybe after that we'll be able to spend a little time together. 318 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,440 I mean, I really don't think they had a lot in common. 319 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,200 I think she was very touched by his genuine concern for her. 320 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440 But then quite soon bored… 321 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080 with his over-possessiveness. 322 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,560 Well, we're here to make The Seven Year Itch. 323 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,360 - That's your latest picture? -Yes. 324 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,600 I'm looking forward to working in it very much. 325 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120 I hear that you're getting to be quite a cook too. 326 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Joe says you can really broil a mean steak. 327 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,320 Well, I'm learning. 328 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960 A little slow, but… 329 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Okay. 330 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560 We were shooting Seven Year Itch with Marilyn Monroe. 331 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760 And do you remember that famous shot? 332 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960 Do you remember the wind that is lifting her skirt? 333 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Do you feel the breeze from the subway? 334 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Isn't it delicious? 335 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,360 Oh! Here comes another one! 336 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200 Well, we were all set up to shoot that scene, you know. 337 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760 There were five and ultimately 10,000 people. 338 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,680 They were like, uh… and look up Marilyn's skirt. 339 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,880 And… 340 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280 people were heckling from the sidelines, 341 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,560 and people were running up for autographs. 342 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,480 I did Seven Year Itch. 343 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Yeah. Joe got very upset about it. 344 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720 - Did he really or was that-- - Really! 345 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Joe DiMaggio, you know, he was watching it, 346 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,440 and he didn't like it very much, 347 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,480 his wife making a spectacle of herself. 348 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,440 They had a suite in a real old, beautiful hotel. 349 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600 -And he… beat her up a little bit. - Huh. 350 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Marilyn said that she screamed and yelled for us. 351 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200 But we couldn't hear her through those thick walls, you know. 352 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960 - It was more on her shoulders. - Yeah. 353 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,440 But with a little makeup and everything, she went ahead and worked. 354 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040 Our marriage wasn't a happy one. It ended in, 355 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,040 uh, nine months, 356 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,480 unfortunately. 357 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400 I don't know what else to say. 358 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640 All I can say as her attorney is that 359 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,720 this is what we would say was a conflict of careers. 360 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Has Joe moved out finally? 361 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480 - Okay, Jerry! -I'm sorry. I have to go. 362 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,360 My dad had told me… 363 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,240 that she got depressed at times. 364 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920 About how terrible she felt about herself. 365 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680 "Nothing would ever turn out right." 366 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160 "Nothing would go my way." 367 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,360 How do you feel about coming back to Hollywood? 368 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 A happy time for you-- 369 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000 Yes, it is. It's a very happy time. I'm happy to be back. 370 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,000 -In my hometown. - Yes. 371 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,840 Well, you're a happy girl now? 372 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,160 And she talked about this whole litany of depressive thought. 373 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,080 "Nobody likes me." 374 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200 "Everything I do turns to shit." 375 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,280 "I don't have anybody." 376 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,000 "I'm a waif." 377 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,480 Marilyn, all we know in New York 378 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520 is that you and Joe DiMaggio are friends at a distance. 379 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,960 How great a distance? 380 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,320 Well, we haven't seen each other. 381 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Do you hear from each other? Do you write or talk? 382 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,800 -Um, I'd rather not answer. - All right, fine. 383 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680 Well, when I was put in the orphans' home, 384 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,480 they pulled me, and I kept crying and screaming, "I'm not an orphan." 385 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,040 I called every woman I would see, I'd say, "There's a mama." 386 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,880 If I would see a man, I'd say, "There's a daddy." 387 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,800 I don't think I have really too much to say about it except 388 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000 I… I liked her, and… 389 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,360 and we'd talk a lot. 390 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,080 I was at the Strasbergs' parties with her a lot. 391 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,920 She… she seemed a little bit, um… 392 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,240 She seemed concerned about, uh, 393 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 you know, like childhood memories of… 394 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 of being molested as a child, things like that. 395 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,800 She talked about that, I remember. 396 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,800 She felt that she had avoided… 397 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,280 That she knew people who were psychotic from such episodes, 398 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360 and she felt that at least she'd survived that. 399 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,600 - - I was a very, very close friend 400 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360 and was friends to the end. 401 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,840 She wanted to know her father so badly. 402 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,080 I remember a party and this game we'd play. 403 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Everybody said what they'd want most in the world. 404 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 And she said she'd want to put on a black wig, 405 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,480 pick up her father at a bar, 406 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,400 have him make love to her, 407 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,240 and then she'd say, "Well, how does it feel now to have a daughter 408 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,600 that you've made love to?" 409 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,200 We all need to get out of childhood in one piece, 410 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,000 but if nowhere along the line did you get that sort of reinforcement 411 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480 that you are worth love, you're lovable, that there's something in you, 412 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,080 that we're a good person, 413 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720 what you end up with is a sort of emptiness. 414 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,880 We were friends prior to the marriage. 415 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,160 Many years before that. 416 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,040 See, my father owned half of Republic Studios at one time. 417 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360 -So I grew up with these people. - Uh-huh. 418 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,280 But, uh, I think the greatest effect of all was Arthur Miller. 419 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,720 Yes. 420 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080 The Arthur Miller situation. 421 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,760 How long have you known Miss Monroe, Mr. Miller? 422 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000 I met her a long time ago, but I hadn't seen her in years. 423 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440 But I think I've got the woman who is going to be my wife. 424 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600 - You mean Marilyn Monroe? -That's correct. 425 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,800 When are you planning to have children? 426 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,920 Well, I'm not married yet, dear. 427 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,960 This is a personal question. 428 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,080 Is there anything in particular about Mr. Miller that attracted you? 429 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600 -Have you seen him? - Yes. 430 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,160 -Yes! - 431 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,400 I think she was quite intrigued by people she thought to be bright. 432 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360 That would have been my impression. 433 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,960 What I'd like to accomplish, I would like to be a good actress. 434 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,000 A true actress. An artist, with integrity. 435 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520 She had very strong goals for herself. 436 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,400 She was so bright about acting. 437 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,400 She'd come over, sit with me at the Studio and things like that. 438 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,880 She'd figure out what she wanted to do with the scene. 439 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040 She really… she really cared. 440 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,400 I think love and work are the only things that really happen to us. 441 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,840 Arthur Miller thought she was intelligent 442 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,200 and had a brain that was never cultivated. 443 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,760 And that's where he courted her. 444 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,880 - That's correct. - 445 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120 Ms. Monroe, could you tell us what kind of a wedding you're gonna have? 446 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480 Very quiet, I hope. 447 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Studio. 448 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,520 - Can I speak to Milton Greene? - Speaking. 449 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,000 Close friend and associate. We loved each other, period. 450 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960 She was. She really was. She wanted a baby. 451 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480 In fact, during Prince and the Showgirl, 452 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,800 she said, when it's over, she's gonna go home and have a baby. 453 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600 And I said, "Well, great." 454 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,400 "Get the white picket fence, and I think it's a good idea." 455 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,840 If you gave her a choice between children and stardom, 456 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,320 it would have been children… 457 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,920 without question. 458 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,360 There were some photographs, 459 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480 I think it was a picture of her and Miller's father. 460 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,320 And she said to me, 461 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,400 "This is my happiest period." 462 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,000 And I asked her why. 463 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,760 She showed me the picture and said, "I was pregnant then." 464 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,840 Yes, she was pregnant by Miller during Some Like It Hot. 465 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,760 If you watched her 466 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,200 in the picture that I worked with her on called Some Like It Hot… 467 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,280 - Right. One of my favorites. - She was so wonderful. 468 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,720 All the way through. 469 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,040 - From the start? Gosh. -Yes. 470 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,160 She had a very naive quality about her, very soft, gentle quality. 471 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,800 That's the way she could be, you see. 472 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,960 That's the way she was, not could be. She was evanescent. 473 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,040 -♪ To anything higher… ♪ -And I… 474 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,480 Well, uh, she wasn't happy many times, Mr. Summers. 475 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,080 I… I remember… 476 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,920 Everything connects in a person's life, particularly hers, you know? 477 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,120 And it's sad. 478 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,040 She was slightly discombobulated at all times. 479 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200 But by God, when you suffered through that scene, 480 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,760 through the 30, 40, 50 takes sometimes, 481 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,480 you had something there, you know. 482 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640 Something absolutely unique that cannot be duplicated. 483 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,920 I had no problem with Monroe. Monroe had problems with Monroe. 484 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,000 She had problems with herself. 485 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,320 I can give you the reason for that one. 486 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120 But I can't say anything. And I knew it all. 487 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,080 I'm awfully sorry. 488 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,280 You sound very nice, but I really… It makes me unhappy to talk about it. 489 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,480 It really does. 490 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,800 - You know you-- - She's been gone 20 years… 491 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,360 - Oh yes. -…Mr. Summers. 492 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000 I can't bring myself to talk about it. 493 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480 Just being able to be 494 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,960 another human being, 495 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,520 to be someplace… 496 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,920 Having certain kinds of secrets for yourself. 497 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,960 There is a need for aloneness, you know? 498 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,520 I was aware from the-- Yes, I was aware from the beginning. 499 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,240 And I saw there was something that she was… 500 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,760 She was not the fresh little girl that I'd known originally. 501 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,760 Very soon we were aware that she was a problem. 502 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,240 She'd be late on the set always. 503 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Sometimes the whole morning would go by. 504 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,880 Sometimes she'd be all right. 505 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,480 Occasionally, she'd be practically non compos mentis. 506 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360 The narcotics were the problem. 507 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,120 I discovered this in the course of the picture. 508 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,120 I remember saying to Miller one day… 509 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,880 I said, you know, that if she went on at the rate that she was going, 510 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,640 why, she'd be in an institution in two or three years, or dead! 511 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,640 And I said anyone who allows her to take a drug ought to be shot. 512 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,960 It was almost an accusation against him. 513 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,640 An indictment against Miller. 514 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,600 At the end of the shooting of Misfits. 515 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,880 Happiness… 516 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,680 Does one ever know that? 517 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,640 Marilyn! 518 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,440 Marilyn! 519 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,680 I feel wonderful. Thank you. 520 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,560 Here she was now, again divorced and terribly lonely. 521 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 That's when the Kennedys came back in there. 522 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,520 - Right. - 523 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000 - Were you aware of that? - Oh, yes. 524 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,440 But Jack, that started in the early and mid '50s. 525 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,840 -Yes! - Uh-huh. 526 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,440 Oh, of course it did. 527 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,800 He'd been out here on and off all through the '50s. 528 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,400 'Cause he had lots of friends here, you know, 529 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,800 spending lots of time, you know. 530 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,240 - He used the Malibu Inn. - Yes. 531 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,080 - And drank at the Malibu Cottage. - Uh-huh. 532 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,480 The raunchiest looking thing you've ever seen in your life. 533 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,080 -Oh yeah, because Jack wasn't known… - Yeah. 534 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,040 …here at all. 535 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960 He was a senator. He was totally unknown here. 536 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,960 I, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, do solemnly swear… 537 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,480 No one ever expected Jack to become the president or the nominee. 538 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,120 …and I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States. 539 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,000 And will to the best of your ability… 540 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,080 He's just some smart-ass rich kid's son that became senator. 541 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,280 Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. 542 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,560 So help you God. 543 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:12,920 So help me God. 544 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,080 After Jack. 545 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,400 Ah, yes. 546 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,240 Yes. 547 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,600 But, in '61, 548 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:41,640 the meeting headquarters was at Pete Lawford's house 549 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,520 in Malibu. 550 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,320 Just the things that were going on in that beach house. 551 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,280 Not discreet at all. 552 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,480 Of course, there was nothing discreet about any of the Kennedys either. 553 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,360 Mm-hmm. I mean, it was just mind-boggling. 554 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:56,840 Peter would obviously be, you know, sort of pimping for both Kennedys. 555 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,440 They would do it just as soon in front of anybody. 556 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,920 Yeah, their wives could be in the other room, 557 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680 and many times were, you know. 558 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,760 Yeah. I mean, I've had a hand up my breasts. 559 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,920 The president owned it. 560 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,480 Yeah. 561 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,040 Not in the terms that Jack was. 562 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,840 They were tacky, they were corny, they were… you know, the father was. 563 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,800 They were chips off the old block. 564 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,160 You know, his father was a bigger wolf than he was! 565 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,280 He came out here, and he had an office here, 566 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,000 which later became RKO. 567 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,600 See, before, any con artist could come into the motion picture industry 568 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,560 and make a buck. 569 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,760 And he used to fuck up in his office. 570 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,520 I used to have to wait outside the door, for chrissakes, 571 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,040 while he was getting laid. 572 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,120 I mean, I'm talking about Joe. 573 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,440 Yeah. 574 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,800 Remember that. 575 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,920 Both. 576 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,040 I do. 577 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,920 It was in the dining room one day, 578 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,280 and she was talking about going over to Lawford's house. 579 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,240 "I want something to talk to him about." 580 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,760 - Robert Kennedy? -Right. 581 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,360 We talked about some political questions. She actually ended up writing them down 582 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,560 and putting them in her purse, and then she went there. 583 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,840 She was seated with Bobby 584 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,600 and had made some little notes, 585 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,160 feeling that she really wasn't quite bright enough for the crowd. 586 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,320 And, um, at one point, 587 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,760 he got up and called his father long-distance 588 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120 to say that he was seated with Marilyn Monroe, 589 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680 and would his father like to say hello to Marilyn. 590 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,320 - Who? -This is Bobby. 591 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920 And I think he asked her to dance. 592 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,160 They did that. 593 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,440 -That goes on… - Yes, that's what she said 594 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,880 on numerous occasions. 595 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,280 Again, she just didn't lie. She just spoke quite openly. 596 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,400 Oh, nothing but love. 597 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,040 Nothing but admiration. 598 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,720 Tonight, we go after the story of a private detective, 599 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840 who helps Confidential magazine pry into the lives of Hollywood stars. 600 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,440 An ex-cop, now one of the highest-paid private detectives in the United States. 601 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,920 He's Fred Otash. 602 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,560 Now then, Fred Otash, you take any case that pays you money, is that not so? 603 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,360 -Correct? -That's correct. 604 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,480 Any case at all? 605 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,520 I won't take a case for a member of the Communist Party or a communist. 606 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,560 I sort of draw the line there. 607 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,120 How do you justify invading people's privacy like that? 608 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,400 Well, I feel this way, if you can see it or hear it, 609 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,560 you're not invading any privacy. 610 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,400 Being a private detective is a dirty job. There's no two ways about it. 611 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,840 But I do a certain job, 612 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,240 and I try to determine if the facts and the items are true. 613 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,480 - You just want the facts? -That's right. The true facts. 614 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,640 - Fred Otash? - Yeah. 615 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,280 I worked for and against the Mafia. I worked for and against law enforcement. 616 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,760 I worked for and against the White House. 617 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,600 And I worked for Hoffa. 618 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,760 You can't be head of the Teamsters unless you're approved by the Mob. 619 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,360 Hoffa was the Mob. 620 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,920 - Where'd you get the money? - What'd you say? 621 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760 Do you have any evidence of the $20,000 in cash? 622 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,120 - No. -Did you receive any of this money? 623 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,400 I don't believe that I did. 624 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,240 Suggest anything to you? 625 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,600 It doesn't suggest anything except the fact that you're trying again 626 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,080 to embarrass Hoffa. That's all. 627 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,280 Hoffa, he had a vendetta for Bobby. Kennedy had a vendetta for Hoffa. 628 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,880 Mr. Hoffa, did you say, "That SOB. I'll break his back." 629 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,040 Figure of speech. I don't know who I was talking about. 630 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,640 I don't know what you're talking about. 631 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,360 Hoffa wanted to neutralize Kennedy. 632 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,720 What Hoffa wanted 633 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,480 was for me to develop a derogatory profile on Jack and Bobby Kennedy 634 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,520 and their relationships with Marilyn Monroe. 635 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,160 And the strategy that was agreed upon was to use electronic devices, 636 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,800 and the most logical place to set those devices 637 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,720 was Peter Lawford's home in Malibu. 638 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,840 That was the Kennedy playground. 639 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,400 And wire up Marilyn's home… 640 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,800 in Brentwood. 641 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,160 The house on the Helenas was the first piece of property that she 642 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,080 ever had owned in her whole life. 643 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,920 And my father encouraged the whole idea that 644 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,200 she alone as a person could own and put down roots and have her own place. 645 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,400 It was something that hadn't occurred to her. 646 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,280 And she was, you know, very excited about establishing her own sort of family. 647 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,640 What Pop wanted to do was to have her stand on her own two feet. 648 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,080 But there is something in people, they want solitude for a while. 649 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,880 That I'm quiet and to myself more. 650 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,840 Somewhere in there, my dad went away. 651 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,360 - Yeah. - To Europe. 652 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,080 And he left with her in fairly decent shape. 653 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,160 But I think she was starting that movie. 654 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,680 In a sense, the less important we became in her life, the better off. 655 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,760 That meant that she had her own life. 656 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,200 - All right, camera! - It's 11. 657 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,920 It takes me two seconds. It's taken… 658 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,400 You've… you've had two days. Sorry, George, but we can do it. 659 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160 Good, good, good. 660 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,160 All right, cameras! 661 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,200 Yeah, one more. That was good though, right? 662 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,520 And she would become even more of a star. 663 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,040 I'd have to look into my journal and see what he said, 664 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,800 -if I wrote it down as a quote. - I'd be interested in that. 665 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,080 This is a quote. "Marilyn will turn out to be 666 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,400 the most popular actress of her generation, probably of this century." 667 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,200 502. Speed. 668 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,040 Mr. Cukor, on this film, has been 669 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,160 very wonderful to me. 670 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,880 Trying to be happy is almost as difficult as trying to be a good actress. 671 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,240 You have to work at both of them. 672 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880 "Her best films would have come late in her career." 673 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280 "She had a great untapped dramatic talent." 674 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,720 But anyway, she was making that movie, and… my dad, when he left said, 675 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,840 "You guys should try to pitch in." 676 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,200 He wanted to make sure that she wasn't running into some trouble. 677 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,600 There was always great danger that she might… 678 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,760 get involved with somebody or something. 679 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320 The bugs were installed in the bedrooms and on the phones. 680 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,400 And there were four bugs altogether installed out there. 681 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,800 They were placed under carpets, 682 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,360 in the chandeliers, and in ceiling fixtures. 683 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,880 You could wire a telephone five miles from the location. 684 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,200 I had sent Danoff out there. 685 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,200 John Danoff. 686 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,960 Yes. 687 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,640 The conversation that came across the receiver, 688 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,880 it would fade in and fade out. 689 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,280 Music, people talking, 690 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,960 and I'm then beginning to recognize the voices, 691 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,320 the Bostonian accent and Marilyn Monroe. 692 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,440 I heard the president call Marilyn "Marilyn," 693 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,560 or Marilyn calling the president "Prez." 694 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,240 Any conversations on the phone, 695 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,160 some with Jack Kennedy, some with Bobby Kennedy, 696 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,080 some with Monroe, some with other people. 697 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,960 Arrangements for meetings, there were gonna be rendezvous 698 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,160 with Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, and Monroe. 699 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,200 So there were numerous tapes made on Marilyn and Jack at the beach house 700 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,760 in the act of lovemaking. 701 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,960 They went into the bedroom where there was another transmitter, 702 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,680 which picked up cuddly talk and taking off her clothes, 703 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,640 the sex act in the bed. 704 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,440 And someone wired up Marilyn's house 705 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,880 on behalf of Hoffa. 706 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,080 Bobby Kennedy was there many times. 707 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,040 There were more tapes made out of Robert Kennedy and Monroe, 708 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,800 as opposed to Jack Kennedy and Monroe. 709 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,280 This is in '62, shortly before her death. 710 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,920 It must have been that summer. 711 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,520 Whenever she called, 712 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,600 and I would always answer the attorney general's personal calls, 713 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,560 she would talk to me. 714 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,760 It was as though she were reaching out. 715 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,760 And Bob would call her back, and they'd talk. 716 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,920 The entire globe, 717 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,320 yesterday, the site of a momentous conflict. 718 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,880 The conflict which has become known as the Cold War. 719 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,640 The Communist Bloc would like to see the world 720 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,160 under communist domination. 721 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,200 Recently, we've seen it extend into turbulent Cuba. 722 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,520 Does that disturb you? It should. 723 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,400 You are in the crosshairs of the bombsight. 724 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,280 A massive nuclear intercontinental capability. 725 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,520 The communist plan for world domination. 726 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,200 It is a contest unlike any we have ever faced in our history as a nation. 727 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,120 I remember when she sang for the president. 728 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,680 And she was so excited about it. 729 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,920 'Cause, "Why, the president of the United States," you know. 730 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,200 You know, it was one of the most exciting things of her life. 731 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,960 President is winding up his New York day here at Madison Square Garden 732 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,840 in a sort of pre-birthday celebration. 733 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,320 Mr. Kennedy has the best seat in the house at the function, 734 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,520 and it will be starting just about now, the finale for this affair. 735 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,840 Mr. President, 736 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,600 on this occasion of your birthday, this lovely lady, Marilyn Monroe. 737 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,520 Everybody! Happy birthday! 738 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,240 Just being the one to sing. 739 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,800 She was picked. 740 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,360 - - She was picked. 741 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,800 The one. 742 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,280 We met in Laguna. 743 01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,680 A month before she died. 744 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,960 She came down for the weekend. 745 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,760 And… she told us the… 746 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,520 What had really taken place with the Kennedys. 747 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,240 I can… You know, I can go into the dirt, 748 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,920 or I can go into lots of other things, 749 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,240 but she… She was… 750 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,480 She was, uh, hurt. 751 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,960 Terribly hurt when… …she was told directly 752 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,920 never to call or contact again. 753 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,720 -Robert or John. - Right. 754 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,440 Well, no, that was an order. 755 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,600 - No, Jack didn't contact her. - Yeah. 756 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,800 Bob did. 757 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,600 And that's what killed her. 758 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,920 I don't care what anyone else says. 759 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,080 It was the beginning of the last day, if you will. 760 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:04,920 Prior to her death? 761 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,640 She had been mixing drink and sleeping pills. 762 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,040 I thought she very definitely was on the downward path. 763 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,360 And I just never could quite understand whether 764 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,000 she understood there was help to be had 765 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,200 and people did care about her. 766 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,000 And whether she was just… 767 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,280 letting go. 768 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,400 I like to stay here and now. 769 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,840 Fame is fickle. 770 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,920 It had its compensation. 771 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,200 But… it also has its drawbacks. 772 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,400 And I know it. 773 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,880 I've had you, fame. 774 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:04,480 So long! 775 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,600 One of the most famous stars in Hollywood history is dead at 36. 776 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,640 Her housekeeper, Eunice Murray, 777 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,720 found the actress dead in bed, 778 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,000 holding in one hand a telephone, which was off its hook. 779 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,000 Bottle of sleeping pills near her bed. 780 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,120 No notes were found. 781 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,640 The coroner ruled the cause of death an overdose of drugs. 782 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,000 It is our opinion, probable suicide. 783 01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,440 Well, the official finding will never tell the story 784 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,200 of her life and end. 785 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,240 I will never forget that night 786 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,720 because we were at the Hollywood Bowl, 787 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:38,000 and someone, I don't know who it was, that came to us, 788 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,800 and all I remember is that we were no longer 789 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,000 at the Hollywood Bowl, if you know what I mean. 790 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,680 About half past ten. 791 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,320 -Exactly. - Right. 792 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,960 That's not true because my husband was there. 793 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,680 That's correct. 794 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,840 - Remember, the official story-- -My husband fudged everything off. 795 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,000 I cannot tell you why because he's no longer with us, as you know. 796 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,960 - He didn't tell you why-- -Don't forget, that was his business. 797 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,600 To keep the press at bay. He kept everyone in abeyance. 798 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,680 - What happened? - What do you mean? 799 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,280 Did you go into the house? 800 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,120 - Yeah. - Did you see Monroe's body? 801 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,360 Yeah, she was on the bed. 802 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,800 Do you recall whether she was on her back or stomach? 803 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,800 Side. 804 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,720 - She was on her side. - Yes. 805 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:11,920 Yeah? 806 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,840 - Yeah. - Do you know where it took her? 807 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,000 Took her to Santa Monica emergency. 808 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,360 No, she wasn't. 809 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:37,920 Yes, that's right. 810 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:41,720 Yeah. 811 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,360 -comatose, to the hospital… - Right. 812 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,160 It's the truth. 813 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080 - The other people involved. - Involved. 814 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,880 I don't know who was involved. 815 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,960 Greenson and I were both at a… at a lunch. 816 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,040 I was sitting next to him at the table. 817 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,360 - Yes. - And… 818 01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:34,160 This is after she died. '64, somewhere like that. 819 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,960 Quite closely related to her death. 820 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,120 They took her to St. John's. 821 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,320 And that she died in the ambulance. 822 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,280 Then they took her back to the house. That was what he told me. 823 01:21:58,440 --> 01:21:59,280 Right… 824 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,160 Yeah, he did! He told me that he was in the ambulance. 825 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,280 Yeah, I just don't feel comfortable telling you what he told me. 826 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,160 This sort of thing was not talked about. 827 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,920 -People of that magnitude. - Yeah. 828 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,320 Also, he wouldn't want to burden me with 829 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,320 a knowledge that I would then have to hide. 830 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,840 Hello? 831 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:47,880 Yes, Tony. 832 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,640 I don't want to go through it with Marilyn again because, uh… 833 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,160 Listen, I don't know really anything else that I feel that I ought to do. 834 01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:14,520 -Tony! - Yeah? 835 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,280 This has not had any interest for me in a long time. 836 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,840 I went in, did my number, took my money and got out of the business! 837 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,120 Find out where Bobby Kennedy was that weekend. 838 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,920 Do you wanna ask me something or-- 839 01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,680 Yeah, I had heard, 840 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,920 on good authority, that the Saturday that this happened, 841 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,400 Bobby had come into town. 842 01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,920 Bobby was in town and supposedly left. 843 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,600 And when I say I heard it, I heard it from a federal agent. 844 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,880 Yes. It was definitely from the FBI. 845 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280 I think he was at Peter's house at the beach. 846 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:27,440 Yeah, that's what I… 847 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,040 In fact, I… I must say, yes, I… I do remember that. 848 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,440 -He was. - Right. 849 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,760 -He was at Peter's house at the beach. - Right. 850 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,680 Well, I hope your phone is clean. 851 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,680 - Which is a good question. - Yes. 852 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,680 Did Freddy, uh, corroborate? And if you don't wanna tell me, okay. 853 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,520 But I can call Fred. He'll tell me. 854 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,600 Well, you're talking to a lot of people, and, you know, 855 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,560 you're obviously really intent on getting into this thing. 856 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,080 That Marilyn was murdered is baloney. 857 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,800 - I'll put you straight on it. - Yeah. 858 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,000 First of all, what did Freddy tell you? 859 01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:16,120 There were tapes recorded the day of her death. 860 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,600 Bobby Kennedy called her the night of her death from Lawford's house. 861 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,120 And she said, you know, "Don't bother me. Leave me alone. Stay out of my life." 862 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,320 A very violent argument, that, you know, "I feel passed around, I feel used, 863 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,760 I feel like a piece of meat." 864 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,240 Now, that's true. 865 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,360 -What you just said is true. - Right. 866 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,440 She was raising a stink, 867 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,880 calling the broth… Calling John and the White House 868 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,040 and complaining about the situation. 869 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,320 - Because of the brother. - Yes. The picture that I remember 870 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,960 is that she'd been hot and heavy for… for Bob. 871 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,600 - Yes. - At first. 872 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,600 And then, she'd gotten the cold shoulder, or somehow or other, it had turned. 873 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,240 -Now the details of that, I don't know. - Right. 874 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,440 But she had come to the point where she felt like 875 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,480 -she was just being used. - Yes. 876 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,880 And that's where it was at about the time the end came. 877 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,800 - Right. - She was upset and heartbro… 878 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,800 I don't know whether-- I don't think she was heartbroken. 879 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,480 I don't think that it was a thing of being heartbroken. 880 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,760 It was a thing of feeling taken advantage of and feeling 881 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:34,200 a lot of lies and feeling that she was just being… 882 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,040 Had come to where she said, you know, "I don't even want to see you." 883 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,840 You know, and, "Why did you come here?" 884 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,600 You know, "If you want to see me, you come to see me." 885 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,680 -You know, "I'm not coming down there." - Right. 886 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,360 The call to the White House thing, 887 01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:52,960 I understood it to mean that, like she was calling to say, you know, 888 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,680 "Get your brother away from me. I hate all of you." 889 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,320 -That type of thing. - Right. 890 01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,680 There was a turning point in her feelings. 891 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,480 Like a piece of meat, used, passed around. 892 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,880 I don't think she was heartbroken. 893 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,480 Feeling used. 894 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,800 - "I hate all of you." - 895 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,080 I appreciate very much your calling. 896 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,400 I think about you once in a while. 897 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,800 The Kennedys were a very important part of Marilyn's life. 898 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,120 I wasn't included in this information, but I was a witness to what was happening. 899 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:01,840 Yes. 900 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,440 And it became so sticky 901 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,720 that the protectors of Robert Kennedy, you know, 902 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,600 had to step in there and protect him. 903 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,040 Not an investigation, but rather a "hush-hush." 904 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:27,280 Because the man that really was involved was the boss. 905 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,680 He was the attorney general, so he could have the FBI do anything. 906 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:31,640 People that knew, 907 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,920 they knew that they didn't want Bobby Kennedy's name brought into this, 908 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,960 again, because his brother was president. 909 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,800 They had done everything to hush this up. 910 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,560 We sort of started to piece together what happened. 911 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,200 Press accounts were coming out, and they didn't make a lot of sense to us. 912 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,720 And so we started playing detective. 913 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,880 I pieced together the notion that a helicopter was used 914 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,920 and went out to see the helicopter pilot. 915 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,480 And I said, "Can I look at your log? Have you got a log?" 916 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:16,400 And he said, "Sure!" 917 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,480 And he produced his log, and I started thumbing through it. 918 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,240 And I saw an entry that said 919 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,800 that he took Kennedy to meet a flight en route to San Francisco. 920 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,960 Two or three in the morning. 921 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,080 - Yeah. - Yeah. 922 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,520 Well, also a call was made to Bobby Kennedy's people. 923 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,320 That's right, and that he had been at the beach house and that he had flown out. 924 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,200 That that was one reason for the delay. 925 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,360 The message we got back was that Kennedy 926 01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:03,080 would appreciate it if we didn't do the story. 927 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,760 We decided that we would not go with the story. 928 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,960 Uh… What did Freddy tell you about that? 929 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,080 But I mean, the only people that would know about that 930 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,120 would be the people at the meeting. 931 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,920 Lawford showed up completely disorientated 932 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,360 and in a state of shock, saying that Marilyn Monroe was dead, 933 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,440 that Bobby Kennedy was there, 934 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,800 that they had gotten in a big fight, 935 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,000 that he was spirited out of town back up north, 936 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,760 and that he'd like to have me make arrangements 937 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,160 to have someone go out to the house 938 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,400 and pick up any and all information 939 01:32:07,480 --> 01:32:09,840 that was possible regarding any involvement 940 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,200 between Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys. 941 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,480 He was convinced there was diaries around and maybe a note. 942 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,240 - One moment, please. -Doyle. 943 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,080 - Yes. - This had occurred? 944 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,840 - Oh yeah. It did happen. - Right. 945 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,560 I was there at the time when she died. 946 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,720 There were some people there that normally wouldn't have been there. 947 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,280 - Bureau people? - Yes. 948 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,480 Immediately. Before anybody even realized what had happened. 949 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,800 It had to be instructions from someone high up, higher than Hoover. 950 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,320 - The general or the president. - Yes. 951 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:39,320 The only two. 952 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,400 She was raising a stink. 953 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,040 She was… 954 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:15,320 She… 955 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,680 Well, as far as the Los Angeles District Attorney is concerned, 956 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,680 she killed herself, either on purpose or accidentally. 957 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,800 The Marilyn Monroe case is closed. 958 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,880 The true things rarely get into circulation. 959 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,000 It's usually the false things. 960 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,840 It's hard to know where to start if you don't start with the truth. 961 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,160 I checked the operator for… 962 01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,240 -Out of order. - Hmm. 963 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,440 The operator said the phone's off the hook. 964 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,560 She was dead… 965 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,960 I've had to live with it… 966 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,440 I should have got in my car and gone up there. 967 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,640 I should have known better. 968 01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:18,840 When I was a kid, 969 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,160 sitting in the front row… 970 01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,840 at the movies on Saturday afternoon… 971 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,680 and I'd think how wonderful it would be to be an actress. 972 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,280 Everything that I would see. 973 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,240 And… 974 01:37:45,480 --> 01:37:46,440 I… 975 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,800 I wanted to know. 976 01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,080 I would like to be a good actress.