1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,960 (SLOW PIANO MUSIC) 4 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:34,160 So, I guess we start with the obvious; 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,920 this project, it's dead. 6 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,120 That's it. It's dead. 7 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,920 It will go down as one of the worst executed plans of all-time. 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,160 A car crash really for those 12 owners. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,840 You're so excited about a sports story. 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,160 The drama, the soap opera... It's about the money... ..what's gonna happen next? 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,600 ..Not about the sport. You've never seen anything like it. 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,960 This is being seen as a power grab motivated by greed. 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,560 Fans burned jerseys, Prince William tweeted in protest. 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,400 The little guys, they're fighting back and they're saying no... 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Why did it take just 48 hours 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,360 for the biggest, most read story to implode and crumble? 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,560 (SLOW OMINOUS THEME) 18 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,240 (INDISTINCT TALKING) 19 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,000 (CONVERSATION IN SPANISH) 20 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,360 No, no. 21 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,920 (LAUGHING) 22 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,840 At the start of the pandemic, 23 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,080 the world was engulfed by uncertaint 24 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,080 about the financial health of the entire economy. 25 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,160 The pandemic had a massive impact on the finances of Football. 26 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Broadcast income became uncertain. 27 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,040 No matchday revenues, 28 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,120 and yet these huge wage bills to continue paying. 29 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,800 I was err called by a source of mine 30 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,520 who was very well connected in the football industry 31 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 in the spring of 2020, 32 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:33,720 and asked to meet him in a restaurant in Central London. 33 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,880 He said to me 34 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,840 a number of Europe's top clubs were in the process of establishing 35 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,400 a new European Super League. 36 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 They felt that they were the biggest clubs, 37 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,320 and they weren't receiving their fair share. 38 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,480 I was asked to keep the information to myself. 39 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Unless these negotiations had been conducted in secrecy, 40 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,280 they would've been headed off at the pass. 41 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,480 UEFA, Europe's football governing body had been, you know, 42 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,640 well versed in um, thwarting previous breakaway attempts. 43 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,320 (CAR HONKS) 44 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,680 The trail dates back to the 1990s when Silvio Berlusconi 45 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,040 floated the idea of a Super League of some kind. 46 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,480 In fact, ever since the Premier League's creation 47 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,080 in the early 1990s, 48 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,880 there has been talk about such a project being set up. 49 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,480 My source told me serious financial backers were being lined up, 50 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,480 and that made it much more credible than in the past. 51 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,840 My instinct was to delay reporting i until things were starting to develo 52 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,880 into a much more concrete and credible project. 53 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Good afternoon, and we start with breaking news. 54 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Straight to our city editor Mark Kleinman, 55 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,480 who has the details. Mark, what can you tell us? 56 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 This is pretty seismic news from the world of football. 57 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,200 What I understand this afternoon 58 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,040 is that Liverpool and Manchester United 59 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,280 are among a handful of English clubs 60 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,600 who have been approached to join something 61 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,040 that is being unofficially called at the moment 62 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,800 the European Premier League. 63 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,280 It was being led by Florentino Perez, the president of Real Madrid, 64 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,520 and a Madrid based investment firm called Key Capital Partners. 65 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,800 It was all about the money that these clubs would secure 66 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:30,200 in order to cement their status 67 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,200 as the powerhouses of European club football for decades to come. 68 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,720 This could get announced in the next couple of weeks, 69 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,920 but key details are still to be finalised, 70 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,160 and given the fraught... 71 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,440 It was literally weeks away from being announced. 72 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Umm, then it went quiet. 73 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Someone somewhere is always talking about starting a Super League. 74 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:56,960 Someone somewhere always has a plan. 75 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,320 It felt for a long time that the Super League 76 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,640 was the natural conclusion of the era we were living through, 77 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,360 that as you watched Bayern Munich win every single Bundesliga title, 78 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,520 as you watched Juventus win nine in a row in Italy, 79 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,480 as you watched Real Madrid and Barcelona trade titles in Spain, 80 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,640 that at some point they were going to say, 81 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,400 "We don't need the rest of you". 82 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 And so the big clubs for the last 30 years 83 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,040 have believed that if they ran their own competition, 84 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 they could not only create more revenue, 85 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,800 they could keep more of it. 86 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Now that happens a lot 87 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,280 with the negotiations in the Champions League. 88 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,880 The big clubs always use the threat of, 89 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,320 "We don't have to play in your competition. 90 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,640 We could go away on our own". 91 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 That's always a threat, and the answer is always 92 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,240 the big clubs get a bit more money, 93 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:54,200 UEFA give a little bit more ground, 94 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 everyone keeps playing in the Champions League. 95 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,600 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 96 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,360 I want to have it clear 97 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,040 that I will not speak about Super League. 98 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 I don't want to hide anything, I don't need to hide anything, 99 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:37,600 but, concretely about Super League I cannot. 100 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,040 (CLAPPERBOARD CLAP) 101 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,880 When I became the UEFA president, 102 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,720 I realised that every evolution makes somebody unhappy. 103 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,720 We are the governing body of European football 104 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,400 and we have to take care of all the stakeholders. 105 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,440 We had a meeting of the UEFA executive committee 106 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,960 on the Monday morning where we had on the agenda 107 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,600 a decision on the reform of the Champions League post-2024. 108 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,280 We had an agreement: 109 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,440 increase of the number of games, and hopefully more exciting games 110 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,600 with more...with more stakes at every level. 111 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,480 European competition for the majority of the clubs 112 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,680 brings the biggest revenues 113 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,480 and since they pay their players and coaches a lot, 114 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,040 their sustainability was questioned from time to time. 115 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 So we discussed a lot 116 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,040 but we came to a good solution, I would say. 117 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,920 The main goal was that we give even more clubs 118 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,840 a chance to play an interesting competition. 119 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,400 I got a text late on the Thursday 120 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,520 saying last minute push for a Super League from a colleague. 121 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,840 At that stage, 122 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,240 we both thought it was the usual threat. 123 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,160 It wasn't until the same colleague contacted me on Sunday morning, 124 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,000 disturbing my peace and said, "UEFA are really concerned. 125 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,040 It seems that they're going to launch this weekend". 126 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,000 It wasn't until the Sunday 127 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,040 that umm, that the messages started to be circulated. 128 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,040 The first message that I received was from Karen Brady at West Ham 129 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,080 saying that she had heard something was umm, something was afoot. 130 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,080 I was out on a run actually 131 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,280 which had turned to a walk as these things sometimes do. 132 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,320 The Chairman of the Premier League called me. 133 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,240 He said, "Look, we've been informed that the Super League is real 134 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,840 and the announcement's going out tonight." 135 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 It was known that something was coming. 136 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,000 The Premier League and the FA had information, 137 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 and things were starting to leak out. 138 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,880 What we didn't know was just quite how grim it was going to be. 139 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 140 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,720 I was with my son in Battersea Park 141 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,760 and I received a call saying, "That story you broke six months ago 142 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,080 is about to happen". 143 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,280 By the time I'd got home actually The Times had run the story. 144 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,320 (KEYBOARD CLICKS) 145 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,800 A story about the Super League wasn't a shock. 146 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,760 The fact it was true was the real shock 147 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,440 because it was finally happening. 148 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,080 Let's bring you some breaking news now 149 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,200 and it is very significant breaking news in terms of the future of football. 150 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,440 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 151 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,520 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 152 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,000 This was not a drill. 153 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800 This was a serious proposal 154 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,800 with huge ramifications for domestic football in this countr 155 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,560 and across the rest of the game. 156 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,400 This is elitism. 157 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,840 It's pull the ladder up jack and sod the rest. 158 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,440 You greedy bastards. 159 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,400 They've decided they're the greatest 160 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,480 and they can't possibly be relegated from that elite group. 161 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,600 It's fundamentally wrong. 162 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,680 There was a feeling of personal betrayal. 163 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,320 These are people that we work alongside day in day out. 164 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,960 You know, we are shareholders ultimately of the Premier League. 165 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,600 If it'd have been in any other business, 166 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,720 it would've been an act of industrial espionage. 167 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,720 You know, it was creating a cartel, 168 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,800 it was having negotiations in a clandestine fashion, 169 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,400 and that was something that the world of football just found unpalatable. 170 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,840 I felt sick. This was the death of my club. 171 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,120 This was destroying the fabric of English football. 172 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,640 (CROWD CHEERING) 173 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,400 I think people viewed this as an attack on the game, 174 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,200 an attack on our supporters, 175 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 an attack on their hopes and dreams. 176 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 It struck at the very essence of why our game's special 177 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,240 and why our football pyramid is special. 178 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,680 That pyramid is the heart of English football, 179 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,760 it means that every city, every community, every town 180 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,520 has the ability to play at the highest level. 181 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,600 I could set up a team, and if we got successive promotions, 182 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 ultimately we could be playing in the Premier League. 183 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,560 (WHISTLE) 184 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:36,800 (APPLAUSE) 185 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Football is the ultimate meritocracy you know, 186 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,880 at the beginning of each year everybody starts with zero points 187 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,240 and in theory you can go from the bottom rung of football 188 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,160 to the top rung of football. 189 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,480 (CROWD CHEER) 190 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,480 A Premier League tale without compare. 191 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Leicester City are the champions of England. 192 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,040 5,000 to 1 to win the Barclays Premier League. 193 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,800 When Leicester can win the Premier League 194 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,400 and qualify for the Champions League 195 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,880 there's always a possibility that somebody will come along 196 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,600 and put the right investment into your football club, 197 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 and also the rest of the football pyramid 198 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 wants to believe that they have a chance of getting there 199 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,640 and this was taken away from them. 200 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,000 # We love you. We love you. We love you 201 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,560 # And where you play we follow, We follow, we follow 202 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,640 # 'Cause we support The Palace, the Palace, the Palace 203 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,120 # And that's the way we like it, We like it, we like it 204 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,840 # Ooh, ooh, ooh Ooh, ooh, ooh # 205 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,760 I bought Crystal Palace because it was my club, 206 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,520 I supported it since I was four and it went out of business. 207 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,760 This is a football club, not a business, it's a football club 208 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,680 it's...look, it's the heart and soul of it, 209 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,600 the people want this club, for us, not for money. 210 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,720 After six months of trying to find a buyer 211 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,520 they couldn't find somebody. 212 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,200 I kind of ran out of excuses and- and ended up- 213 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,760 ended up taking it on. 214 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 He says that the sales of players have been delayed. 215 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,760 A deal is close. 216 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,240 (CROWD CHEERS) 217 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,600 I should have stayed in advertising 218 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,760 and I would be probably a lot wealthier 219 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,800 but maybe not quite as fulfilled and happy. I don't know. 220 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,120 I don't think anybody is quite prepared 221 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,320 for the nature of it as a business. 222 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,920 You're gonna lose money, it's just... 223 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,640 You just have to decide how much you wanna lose. 224 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,640 But I bought the club out of administration. 225 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,040 We didn't own our own ground 226 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,520 and we had about six players under contract. 227 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,200 That just might be the one 228 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 to send Palace back to the Premier League. 229 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,760 These are special, special moments 230 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,960 for a club that was threatened with extinction. 231 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Two years later we were in the biggest, 232 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 richest sporting competition in the world. 233 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Up steps Jedinak, and goes for the corner! 234 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,160 A brilliant free kick! 235 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,240 And Palace score three goals against Liverpool at Selhurst Park! 236 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,720 For every club, something's at stake for most of the season. 237 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,520 The sheer mind-numbing fear of relegation 238 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,760 is what makes the thing so competitive. 239 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,800 To take that away based on a period of history now 240 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,320 and pull the drawbridge up to the rest of the pyramid 241 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,960 is an anathema to most football fans. 242 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,960 You're saying to an Everton, and to a Villa, and to a Leeds, 243 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,720 clubs that have had European glory, 244 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,040 you were saying to these clubs, "Sorry, the music's stopped, and... 245 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,880 and you weren't in the right place". 246 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,280 It's a wonderfully warm weekend in London. 247 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Seats around the Emirates sadly remain vacant 248 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,560 but, in any other regard it is a picture-perfect Sunday. 249 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,000 All Sunday we were trying to get a response from Arsenal, 250 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 and there was radio silence. 251 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,120 And I think my position then, 252 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,240 I told people that, no, I will still go to games, 253 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,200 but I'll wear funeral black and present a wreath every game, 254 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,640 'cause they've killed English football. 255 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,120 Davis...It's a goal! (CROWD CHEERS) 256 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,400 I grew up in Highbury. Arsenal's my club. 257 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,120 It's what I do week in, week out. 258 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,920 It's the highs of winning titles, 259 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,600 it's the lows of not winning very much 260 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,760 as Arsenal have been doing more recently. 261 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:48,520 For generations Arsenal have been owned by Arsenal supporters, 262 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,120 fans who've become fortunate enough or wealthy enough 263 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,800 to own a stake in the club. 264 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,800 The boardroom was full of Arsenal supporters, 265 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,720 so it was a huge change to have an overseas investor come in, 266 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,520 somebody who had been attracted by the value of media rights. 267 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,080 Stan Kroenke has been very hostile towards Arsenal fans. 268 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:17,080 He used something in English law called the squeeze out procedure 269 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:20,000 where you can compulsively buy the shares, 270 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,880 and all of a sudden Arsenal is 100% owned 271 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,160 by an American investor who's re-registered the club in Delaware. 272 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Well, you need to remember and what's core to this story 273 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,040 is the benefit of a closed or semi closed league 274 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,280 is that it looks a lot more like US sport 275 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,400 where leagues are run for the benefit of the owner 276 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,120 as a founding principle, and then everything flows from that. 277 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,640 Much of the rest of the press is focused on player transfers 278 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,000 and fan journalism. 279 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,080 We try to deliver the business journalism on it. 280 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:53,160 Follow the money not the ball. 281 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,000 That's the motto of our coverage. 282 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,280 The thing that has been delivering the most value is the media rights 283 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,200 and it's incredibly valuable. 284 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,040 As media rights become more and more important, 285 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,400 they're pursuing customers across every market in the world. 286 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,960 (CHEER) 287 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,760 And they don't necessarily wanna see Norwich play Burnley, 288 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,000 no offence to either team. 289 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,760 In the sort of minds of the architects of the Super League, 290 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,000 what they needed to do was put on the biggest show on Earth. 291 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,400 (CROWD CHEERS) 292 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,920 And they need the biggest names and the biggest clubs 293 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,400 playing frequently to establish that 294 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Goalless at Old Trafford 295 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,720 but no doubt that first half has been overshadowed 296 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,120 by this breaking news this afternoon 297 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,920 which could have a seismic effect on European football. 298 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,760 What lay behind this that made it so gripping for so many people 299 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,040 is you had really rich, powerful people, 300 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,840 trying to steal a dream away from the everyday person. 301 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,200 The Glazer family bought Manchester United in 2005, 302 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 and it was a highly contentious takeover. 303 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Would you be able to give a message to the Manchester United fans 304 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,720 who are desperate to hear from you? 305 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,000 Well, we're here today to celebrate the Super Bowl in Tampa in 2009, 306 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,000 we're- Sure but there are obviously thousands of Manchester United fans 307 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,440 who are looking forward to hearing from Mr Glazer 308 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,480 in what is a period of real anxiety for them. 309 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Mr Glazer? 310 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,800 All of a sudden money was coming out of the club. 311 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,680 It was being paid in dividends to the Glazer family. 312 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,880 The owners very rarely came to the stadium. 313 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,800 When they did come to the stadium, 314 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,080 you know, supporters would sing about killing them. It was brutal. 315 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,400 # How we'll kill him, I don't know Cut him up from head to toe 316 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 # All I know is Glazer's gotta die! 317 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,240 # He's gonna die! He's gonna die! # 318 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,360 These American owners, 319 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,920 they look at the Premier League and the jeopardy, it terrifies them. 320 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,920 If you have an asset that's worth two billion, three billion, 321 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 you wanna protect that asset. 322 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,440 In the NFL there's no relegation. 323 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,720 You're locked in. 324 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,400 With the Premier League, it's a lot more scary. 325 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,240 It's also why it's so popular. 326 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,320 (WHISTLES) 327 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,000 The reports are suggesting that England's traditional big six 328 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,480 along with the three biggest clubs in Italy and Spain 329 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,360 have all signed letters of intent to join a new European Super League, 330 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,720 there is even suggestion there could be a formal announcement later this evening. 331 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,640 Rashford. 332 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,280 He's slipped away from Lowton as though he weren't there. 333 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,280 And Marcus Rashford's kept on dancing, Fernandez let it roll, 334 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760 That's a smashing United goal! 335 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,000 The clubs involved would need Premier League permission 336 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,360 to take part and without it, you know what that means, 337 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,120 they would have to break away entirely from the Premier League. 338 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480 So the Premier League itself is at threat. 339 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,000 This is the most popular product in world football. 340 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,000 And Manchester United are saying, 341 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,080 "Well look, we are the most popular force here. 342 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,520 "We are the ones that are basically carrying you guys on our backs 343 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,360 and we deserve more money". 344 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Westwood's corner. TARKOWSKI! 345 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,640 This was saying, no matter what you guys do, 346 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,120 you're always gonna be down there, 347 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 because we get richer and you get poorer. 348 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,400 And that's what, I think that's what the public saw. 349 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,960 "Today, I've walked away from my football club. 350 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,400 I can't support this. I can't. It's an absolute disgrace. 351 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,360 Who do they think they are?" 352 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,560 It's found its way in! 353 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,920 "It shows the contempt these yanks have for United supporters. 354 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,080 They can bleed the club dry, that's one thing, 355 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,840 but now they're bleeding heritage? Nah." 356 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Donny van der Beek, Edinson Cavani, Manchester United's points. 357 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,760 It was left to Ed Woodward, 358 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,960 the Manchester United Executive Vice Chairman 359 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,880 to tell his manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer about the plans 360 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,040 after the news had broken in a corridor at Old Trafford, 361 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,600 and then Solskjaer had to go and face a Sky Sports interviewer. 362 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,160 Do you understand at all 363 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840 what the proposals might mean for you and your players? 364 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840 I don't, I haven't looked into it. I've been just focusing on this game 365 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,920 So I just need to sit down and see what it is 366 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,240 and the club will probably comment on it later. 367 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Sky had the rights to the Premier League. 368 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840 It's their golden ticket. It's what people subscribe for. 369 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,040 It's just greed, that's the only wor I would use to describe it. 370 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,840 For them to want to pull away now it's just... 371 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,240 It's a disgrace to be honest. 372 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Let's bring in Gary Neville. 373 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,400 I mean I'm a Manchester United fan and have been for 40 years of my lif 374 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,400 but I'm disgusted, absolutely disgusted. 375 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800 They're breaking away into a league without competition, 376 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,480 that they can't be relegated from. 377 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Manchester United aren't even in the Champions League. 378 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Arsenal aren't even in the Champions League. You saw them earlier, 379 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,680 they're an absolute shambles of a club at the moment. 380 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,520 Tottenham aren't in the Champions League. 381 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,480 And they want a God-given right to be in there? 382 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000 The owners of Manchester United, the owners of Liverpool, 383 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480 the owners of Chelsea, the owners of Manchester City, 384 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,680 they're an absolute joke, and honestly the time has come now; 385 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,160 independent regulator: 386 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,200 stop these clubs having the power base, enough is enough. 387 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Sky have been really important to the Premier League's growth 388 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,120 and the Premier League has been important to Sky's growth. 389 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,680 A Super League might've changed that. 390 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800 They might have done a deal with Netflix and all of a sudden you have a problem. 391 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,760 # When I was young and just a boy 392 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,320 # I asked my mother what will it be 393 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,800 # Will it be Arsenal, Will it be Spurs 394 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,000 # Here's what she says to me # 395 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,240 (FANS CHANT) 396 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Millwall fans twice invaded the Luton pitch, 397 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,920 fighting a running battle with the police. 398 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040 English football before the Premier League 399 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,800 was in a pretty sad state. 400 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,360 All we're going for is, right, a good game of football, 401 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800 a good punch-up, and a good piss-up. 402 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280 You'd had a terrible bust up between fans. 403 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,680 It wasn't very well policed. 404 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,360 You'd had Heysel, 405 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960 you'd had Hillsborough. 406 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440 I mean, I remember stopping taking my kids to it, 407 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,200 'cause I thought it wasn't safe. 408 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,960 I really got involved in football when I became Chairman of ITV Sport. 409 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,800 I said, "You know, I'm sure we can make football meaningful again 410 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,640 to the British public if we can get live rights." 411 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520 I negotiated really with the five biggest clubs at the time. 412 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,200 Which were Manchester- which were Manchester United, 413 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton. 414 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040 And then they said, "Well how much d'you think we'll get each?" 415 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,320 And I said, "Million pounds?" And their eyes bulged. 416 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,600 And the luckiest thing was the first season we had these live rights 417 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,600 was the season where Liverpool played Arsenal 418 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920 in the last game of the season. 419 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,960 To Thomas charging through the midfield! 420 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Thomas, it's up for grabs now! 421 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Thomas! Right at the end! 422 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,280 (CROWD CHEERS) 423 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,240 And of course Arsenal won 2-0 424 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,080 and became the champions of Division One. 425 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,080 And that was a massive bonus, I mean, we got an enormous audience. 426 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,480 When the ITV deal was coming to an end, 427 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,600 I said, "Look I don't think you're gonna get this deal again, 428 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000 are you gonna do anything about it?" 429 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,680 And that night they decided to set up the Premier League. 430 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640 The Football Association has been meeting this morning 431 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,080 to discuss plans to set up a new 18 team Super League. 432 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:55,640 I was the person who tried to stop live football going onto Sky. 433 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920 I thought ITV would get the rights. 434 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,120 Having seen what has happened in the last month, 435 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520 you couldn't be confident of anything going through, but one hopes so. 436 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960 I turned out to be wrong. 437 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,080 They paid a lot of money for the rights. 438 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:12,920 Football's new Premier League has struck a £300 million deal 439 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,120 which means its matches will only be seen live on satellite TV. 440 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,320 They wanted more people to take dishes, have a Sky box, 441 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:25,080 and pay a subscription and they saw football as something 442 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,520 that would drive their subscriber base, 443 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,400 and it worked for them brilliantly. 444 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,880 Delighted to be part of the FA Premier League. 445 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,960 It's a whole new ball game for all of us. 446 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,920 And remember, this is the only place you'll see live 447 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Premier League football. 448 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,520 You've gotta look where power lies in the end, 449 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,160 and power lies with the big clubs. 450 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,960 The idea of the Super League has been around a long time, 451 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,760 just like the idea of the Premier League 452 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,280 was around for quite a long time. 453 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800 The difference is when they set up the Premier League, 454 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,560 all the clubs in the old First Division 455 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,720 were invited to join and the FA supported it. 456 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,360 The Super League didn't have that at all. 457 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,160 It was going to knock out all the other clubs, 458 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040 it would have no promotion and relegation. 459 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,200 What makes football exciting is that clubs like mine, Brentford, 460 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,400 can get into the Premier League. 461 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760 That's what makes it exciting. 462 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,040 The moment you can't, what's it for? 463 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,680 Here's Cantona! He's done it! 464 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,400 (CROWD CHEERS) 465 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480 The Premier League was a recognition 466 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960 that if you looked at the NFL in the United States... 467 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Beckham! That's absolutely brilliant 468 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,280 ..a single competition could create an economic powerhouse. 469 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,960 Henry! Whoa! What a goal! 470 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,880 And they created the most successful sports league we've ever seen. 471 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Aguerro! 472 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Rooney! 473 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,960 The Premier League knows that the big six clubs are central 474 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,120 to its appeal. 475 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Mo Salah! Beautifully done. 476 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,600 If they're competing somewhere else then you have a real problem. 477 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960 The Super League was an existential threat. 478 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680 There is genuine money to be lost here. 479 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,600 "UEFA are furious that this seems to be back on the table 480 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,280 on the eve of their big executive announcement 481 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,760 about the reformed Champions League. It's clear this is not going away." 482 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 They thought that if they were making the announcement 483 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,720 before the decision, they would look less like betrayers. 484 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720 It was definitely a personal sense of disappointment 485 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,760 because we'd worked so hard trying to find solutions together, 486 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,120 and you see that these efforts were met by this kind of behaviour. 487 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400 But you know, in the end we had to- to take the high road 488 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 and we continued to fight. 489 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,560 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 490 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,120 The breakaway clubs have been warned they could be thrown out 491 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,600 of European competitions 492 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400 and even the Premier League if they don't back down. 493 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Look at the language from UEFA, three words: 494 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 "Enough is enough". They are furious. 495 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,120 Sports politics is sometimes worse than normal politics. 496 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Football especially. 497 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,560 There's a lot of passion, a lot of influence and a lot of mone 498 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,680 which brings many interesting people 499 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080 many crooks, many dangerous people, 500 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200 and it's a challenge every day. 501 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Six Premier League clubs have agreed to be part of a plan 502 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,280 for a new European Super League. 503 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,560 There's already enormous opposition to the plan 504 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,440 with UEFA and the Premier League threatening bans for clubs and players. 505 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Throughout Sunday there was a succession of different people 506 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,160 and different bodies coming out against it. 507 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,520 I think by that stage the politician were already involved in some way. 508 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,360 Well, Oliver Dowden is the secretary of state for digital culture media and sport 509 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,440 and he tweeted: 510 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,200 "Football supporters are the heartbeat of our national sport 511 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,640 and any major decisions made should have their backing." 512 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,760 In the middle of a pandemic, 513 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,760 the Prime Minister weighs in on a football story. 514 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840 That suggests the scale of it. 515 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440 You felt probably by about seven in the evening, 516 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,440 this is now a kind of generational story. 517 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280 There are reports that an announcement could be made soon 518 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280 about plans for the formation of a breakaway tournament. 519 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Does this new breakaway European Super League reveal to us 520 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720 that the relentless march of globalisation 521 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,360 is reaching its pinnacle, and nothing matters but money? 522 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,960 There's just a complete lack of understanding of our game 523 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,360 and what's in our hearts 524 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 when we go and watch football and when we play the game. 525 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,480 Those top six clubs who have agreed to this 526 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,280 want more money, I just think it's absolutely disgusting. 527 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,280 And that was before the announcement, 528 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600 that this was still something that had not yet happened. 529 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880 So there's still that little kernel of scepticism, 530 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520 firstly that UEFA will do a deal, this is an act of brinkmanship, 531 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520 but also these clubs will see this reaction, 532 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440 and they will realise they cannot possibly do this, 533 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,880 that this is going to be a disaster. 534 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,560 One of the most dramatic and pivotal relationships 535 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400 in this whole saga, on a personal level, 536 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,000 is the one between Aleksander Ceferin who is the president of UEFA 537 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,840 and Agnelli, who is the Chairman of the European Clubs Association. 538 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Andrea Agnelli is the latest in the Agnelli family to serve 539 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000 as the President of Juventus. 540 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,480 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 541 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760 The Agnelli family created Fiat 542 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200 which of course is the automobile company. 543 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,200 And in 1926 Edoardo Agnelli, he wanted to buy a football club 544 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,800 for all of the people who'd come to work for Fiat. 545 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,840 You could see Agnelli's world view 546 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,400 as a reflection of the Juventus world view which is quite patriarchal. 547 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,680 "We are the ones in control of this club, 548 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520 in control of this company, and here is what we're giving you". 549 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,560 (ITALIAN COMMENTARY) 550 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,400 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 551 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,760 What we want to make sure that we remain loyal to our principles 552 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920 in making sure the voice of the clubs is heard 553 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,960 because we are the ones carrying the entrepreneurial risks. 554 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,520 Ten days before the European Super League story broke, 555 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Andrea Agnelli was very much publicly presenting himself 556 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,520 as someone who was focused solely on the reform of the Champions League, 557 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,840 something that he had been negotiating 558 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,160 as the Chairman of the European Clubs Association with UEFA. 559 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,760 I think we're very close to my ideal Champions League. 560 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,840 That's the hope 561 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,880 that both President Ceferin and I have 562 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,320 for the competition post-2024. 563 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,880 When you talk about Agnelli's growing influence, 564 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,840 some of it stems from the closeness of his personal relationship 565 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560 with someone who is at the head of UEFA, 566 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,800 European football's governing body. 567 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,040 They're so close that Ceferin is godparent to Agnelli's daughter. 568 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480 On Sunday afternoon 569 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960 at the time when the European Super League, 570 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,480 a new project that's going to revolutionise European football 571 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,000 is appearing on our radars, 572 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,560 Andrea Agnelli, the Chairman of the European Clubs Association 573 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,800 is suddenly nowhere to be found. 574 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,680 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 575 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,080 Well, it appears this proposal of the European Super League 576 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,320 is going ahead. Bryan Swanson, what can you tell us? 577 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,760 We expected developments and we have had it the last couple of minutes. 578 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400 A statement's leading European football clubs announce 579 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,120 a new Super League competition, 580 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640 it says 12 of Europe's leading football clubs 581 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,720 have today come together to announce 582 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,760 they have agreed to establish a new midweek competition, 583 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,960 the Super League, governed by its founding clubs. 584 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,040 They published a press release, 585 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,600 and press go on a fairly basic website. 586 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600 It doesn't seem like the sort of thing 587 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,960 that you put out quickly on a Sunday night. 588 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,080 And what was really curious was that Florentino Perez 589 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,920 would be the central figure in the Super League, 590 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,640 with support from Andrea Agnelli and Joel Glazer, 591 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,880 one of the owners of Manchester United. 592 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,800 Joel Glazer's not going to persuade a Manchester City fan 593 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,280 this is a good idea, that's not going to work. 594 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960 Florentino Perez isn't going to persuade a Barcelona fan 595 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,600 that they should sign up for this thing. 596 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,440 It gave the sense that it was just being presented to fans 597 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,080 as a fait accompli and there was nothing anybody could do about it. 598 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,280 So much focus and attention 599 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,440 must've gone into getting these 12 clubs aligned, 600 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,840 which was so hard to do 601 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,480 but no one actually made the case 602 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,320 for why they thought this was a good idea. 603 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,960 It ultimately had the net effect of making this look like a heist. 604 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,520 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 605 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,920 It's the same as in any other business. 606 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,360 Some you can trust, some you can't. 607 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,760 They also say here that the founding clubs 608 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600 will receive an amount of... 609 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,520 ..phoar, three and a half billion euros, 610 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,760 solely to support their infrastructure and investment plans, 611 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,840 and to offset the impact of the Covid pandemic. 612 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,720 Yeah, this is about money. 613 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,720 # Summer - Vivaldi # 614 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,760 "One of our main stories this morning, 615 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,320 it's been called the biggest shake-u in the sport's history." 616 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520 "The announcement has prompted a really strong reaction 617 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,760 from fans and governing bodies alike." 618 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,200 (SPANISH COMMENTARY) 619 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,160 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 620 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,720 (ITALIAN COMMENTARY) 621 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,000 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 622 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:20,560 This is a huge thing, you have Macron now screaming about it, 623 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,600 Boris Johnson out there. 624 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,360 There are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake here 625 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560 It takes a big story of any sort 626 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,120 to get on to the front page of the New York Times. 627 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,840 Like all the best sports stories, it wasn't about sport at all, 628 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,680 it was about business and greed, 629 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:41,560 and power struggles, suspicion and distrust. 630 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,960 Anything else at all could have been happening that day, 631 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,680 there was no other story in the world. 632 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,280 The biggest business story of the day actually, globally is this - 633 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,760 a massive shake-up in the world of soccer. 634 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,560 This decision is monumental, and I'm heartbroken by it, 635 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,440 genuinely heartbroken by it. I'm heartbroken 636 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,560 because the owners of these teams have displayed the worst kind of greed 637 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640 I've ever seen in sport. 638 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640 Twelve of the biggest clubs on the planet have banded together 639 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,080 to form a rebel competition to rival the Champions League 640 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680 and it's started a sporting war. 641 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,880 I woke up on Monday pretty convinced it was real. 642 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,200 The Champions League, as we know it, was dead. 643 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,600 The Premier League and Serie A and La Liga 644 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,600 might be functionally dead as well, because they, by that stage, 645 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680 they were threatening to throw the teams out 646 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,480 of their domestic competitions. 647 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,240 This is a big, big deal. Which teams, Ash? 648 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,800 Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, I had question marked that, 649 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona, Inter Milan, Juventus, 650 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,040 Liverpool, Man City, Man U, and I question this, Tottenham, 651 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,840 but that's beside the point. 652 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,280 There are no big German teams or French teams. 653 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,680 No Bayern Munich, no PSG, because they are not interested. 654 00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:00,760 It wasn't a surprise that it was those twelve clubs. 655 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,800 There was a couple that you might've thrown in, 656 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,680 you might've expected to have been involved. 657 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,320 And there's a couple that it's easy to scoff at, 658 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,960 and say, "Why are Tottenham involved? 659 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,960 What have they got to do with the Super League?" 660 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,320 What was more interesting 661 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,440 was the fact that they were all working together, 662 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,160 despite the fact that so many of them are natural antagonists. 663 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,800 The 12 clubs were really uneasy bedfellows. 664 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,240 You have these old European aristocratic houses 665 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,400 who are either desperate for money and desperate for relevance, 666 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,560 and they can't compete with the Premier League, 667 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,360 they are at a massive financial disadvantage. 668 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,520 You then have the teams in the Premier League 669 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,480 but they can't compete with PSG and Manchester City, 670 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,280 because they have bottomless money to spend on players. 671 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,400 "Welcome once again your owner, Sheikh Mansour!" 672 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600 Manchester City and Paris Saint-Germain 673 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080 are effectively state-owned clubs 674 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560 who are willing to allocate unlimited money 675 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,880 towards the pursuit of trophies and players 676 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,800 because these are soft power exercises 677 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,640 by the countries that own them. They're part of a political project. 678 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,360 This morning it has been confirmed 679 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,720 that this Super League is being financed by JP Morgan. 680 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,520 The figures are staggering, 681 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,560 But now we know where the money is coming from. 682 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640 JP Morgan was providing the debt 683 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840 that would effectively fund the launch of the Super League, 684 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,480 so it was between 3.25 and 3.5 billion. 685 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,320 Every founding member would get effectively a welcome bonus 686 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,360 between 200-300 million. 687 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200 And then obviously the knowledge that the media rights would provide 688 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,640 250 million of guaranteed revenues in perpetuity for 23 years 689 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,120 to each of these clubs. 690 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,240 It's a huge, huge financial benefit. 691 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,880 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 692 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640 (CROWD CHANTS) 693 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Agnelli took this huge gamble on Cristiano Ronaldo, 694 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,080 signing him for 100 million, and 30 million a year wages... 695 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,680 (CROWD CHEERS) 696 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:25,440 ..timed with horrible misfortune, right before a pandemic came 697 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,240 and his club has lost hundreds of millions. 698 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,000 Real Madrid and their galactico era is coming to an end. 699 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,120 Barcelona had confessed to a billion euros in debt, 700 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,240 more than... these clubs needed the Super League. 701 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,800 We were reaching the end of the pandemic, 702 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,040 so it was the first time in months 703 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,040 that we were meeting all together in the same place. 704 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,280 At some point between Sunday and Monday, 705 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,840 UEFA's main response went from being fear 706 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640 to defiance and determination. 707 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640 We got information about some secret talks for months, 708 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,520 but we trusted people, we are- we might be naive, 709 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,280 but for me it's always better to be naive than to be a liar. 710 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,520 (CHUCKLES) 711 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,680 "In a way I'm happy that this happened, 712 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,240 because before we were always thinking, where are they hiding? 713 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,040 We heard rumours about this and that, and, you know, now we know. 714 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,200 There are twelve people who don't care about anybody else, 715 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,240 who think they can get even more money, 716 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,080 and they're already unbelievably rich. 717 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,160 This narcissism is so typical for this group, but it's OK. 718 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,440 He really spoke with his heart, which is... 719 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,840 Which is what you have to do in a situation like this. 720 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,160 I spoke with Agnelli I think 20 times in the last days. 721 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,040 The last time on Saturday, 722 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,760 when I said, "I hear rumours about some Super League", 723 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,720 and he says, "No, this is a lie, don't believe it. 724 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,800 I will call you back in one hour", and he turned off the phone. 725 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:26,560 So, it's hard to believe the level of immorality of some people. 726 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,960 I mean... 727 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,520 He felt like he had been betrayed by Agnelli, who was someone 728 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,520 who he clearly considered a very close friend, 729 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080 and also, beyond that, he'd also been betrayed 730 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,320 by other people who he had relationships with. 731 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640 I spoke with the CEO, 732 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480 or whatever he is at Manchester United, 733 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,160 Ed Woodward, on Thursday. 734 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,800 He called me, he says, "Great reforms, I fully support it". 735 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,120 And then next day we get this. 736 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,720 Football became a big business, 737 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,960 and that's why some people that don't care much about football 738 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,400 and care about the profit only, came in. 739 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,400 This is not an industry. 740 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,880 We are not for profit only. 741 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,320 They think it's a party for a few rich people 742 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120 who sit in the room and decide about everything. 743 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,680 We have what we have 744 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,400 and football will not be sold to, I call them, dirty dozen. 745 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,280 So? Good selection, huh? 746 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,600 By Monday, it seemed like Aleksander Ceferin, 747 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,440 the man who is literally the centre of power in European football, 748 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,520 was the leader of a revolution. 749 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:44,200 The strange thing about that is that UEFA are nobody's idea of a saviour, 750 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,600 but in that situation your enemy's enemy is your friend. 751 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,120 The thing that bothered me most 752 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960 was the sense of entitlement from them clubs, 753 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,400 the dislocation from a league system 754 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,040 which however imperfect, kept other clubs afloat. 755 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,520 You know, we're talking about the football pyramid here, 756 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,400 not just an elite number of football clubs. 757 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,240 (FANS CHANTING) 758 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,000 Me dad was a Liverpool supporter and he put me in Anfield Road end 759 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,680 when I was five years of age and I was- I was gone then. 760 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,640 It falls for Kenny Dalglish... 761 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,120 (FANS CHEER) 762 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,440 ...and the player manager celebrates with a second goal. 763 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,800 Football should always be about the community. 764 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,680 It should be a representation of the community, 765 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,640 and without community and the supporters, 766 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,240 football's nothing. 767 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,120 And we've seen that during Covid. 768 00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,080 The football was on to empty stadium and it was just on, it was noise. 769 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,680 I think everybody in Liverpool knows 770 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,400 that I'm a massive Liverpool supporter. 771 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,280 I've been involved in fan activism for over a decade now. 772 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,040 The Spirit of Shankly was born out of the debacle of Hicks and Gillett. 773 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640 The word respect is, I think, 774 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,240 the way we feel about the heritage and legacy of this franchise. 775 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,080 They came to Liverpool with all these promises 776 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,760 of new stadiums and everything else. 777 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,600 It's all about the fans and making sure that 778 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,800 the quality of the experience for the fans is as good as it can be. 779 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,680 It was a disastrous period in Liverpool's history... 780 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:38,680 (FANS CHANT) 781 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,400 ..and many, many other good people became part of that campaign, 782 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,520 which eventually forced Hicks and Gillett to sell up, 783 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,040 and that's when we entered into the FSG era. 784 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,200 The cheers were of joy, the message of relief. 785 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,000 We have a lot of work to do, and I can't tell you how happy I am 786 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,920 that we finally, finally got to this point. 787 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,160 John Henry had done quite a job of work, and FSG. 788 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,000 I'd say they'd have a positive score card, as owners. 789 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,400 But then a decision had been made to take Liverpool Football Club, 790 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,640 to put it in this edifice 791 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,440 which had been created by billionaire owners, 792 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,200 without any sort of regard to speak to the people 793 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,480 that I believe are the lifeblood of the game. 794 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,880 And I wanted to go into Parliament on the Monday 795 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,200 and let them know exactly what I felt about that. 796 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,440 Order, order. 797 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,840 I call secretary of state Oliver Dowden to make a statement. 798 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,800 Thank you, Madame Deputy Speaker. 799 00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,320 I watched with real interest 800 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,960 what the government's response was gonna be, 801 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,480 because, you know, from a conservative perspective, 802 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,440 was the European Super League against their principles 803 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,960 about making more money? 804 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,680 A small handful of owners want to create 805 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:20,840 a closed shop of elite clubs at the top of the game, 806 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,240 a league based on wealth and brand recognition, 807 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,560 rather than upon merit. 808 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,000 We will not stand by and watch football be cravenly stripped 809 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,760 of the things that make millions across the country love it. 810 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,240 It was about a year 811 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,840 since he and his government had been calling for footballers 812 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,440 to take a pay cut, to help pay for the NHS. 813 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:49,160 It was even less time since they'd been chastising players 814 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,040 for taking the knee before games. 815 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,360 To see the government in general 816 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,280 cast itself as the great defender of the national game 817 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,920 felt a little bit hollow. 818 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:04,320 We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening. 819 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,720 Put simply, we will be reviewing everything the government does 820 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,280 to support these clubs to play. 821 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,360 I have discussed these options with the Prime Minister this morning 822 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,160 We will do whatever it takes to protect our national game. 823 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,840 Ian Byrne. 824 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker. 825 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,440 I said to Oliver Dowden, 826 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,880 "What's the government response gonna be about capitalism, 827 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,360 you know, ruining our game?" 828 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,960 At a time when collectively we should be working together 829 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,040 to rebuild our football communities from the ravages of Covid, 830 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,240 the anger across the country is palpable. 831 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,360 Can you outline how the government will act 832 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,880 to stop corporate greed destroying a game millions in this country love 833 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160 and economically many communities rely on? 834 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,600 Well, the honourable gentleman is absolutely right. 835 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,640 I thought, "We're in different terrain here". 836 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,840 You know, this is a strange place we're inhabiting. 837 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,280 From a purely populist perspective, 838 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,000 you know, the government of the day have looked at it 839 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,920 and said, "Which way is the wind blowing?" 840 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,960 and the wind was certainly blowing against the clubs. 841 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,800 This isn't a story that would normally be something 842 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,320 that us, lobby journalists, would necessarily care about, 843 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,160 but actually when there's a political intervention so soon, 844 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,400 you do suddenly think there's your smoke, 845 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,440 and then you go looking for the fire. 846 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,080 The first phone call I got was from somebody within government, 847 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520 saying, "Hmm, this isn't as straightforward as it seems". 848 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,440 And that there had been government involvement in what had happened 849 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000 and that actually there had been some confusion 850 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,600 as to whether or not the government was going to support this notion to begin with. 851 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,560 There's been a lot of mystery around what happened with Ed Woodward, 852 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,200 the Executive Vice President of Man United. 853 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,760 The week prior to the announcement, 854 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,000 Ed Woodward meets with Dan Rosenfield, 855 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,280 the Prime Minister's chief of staff, a former Bank of America banker, 856 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,880 whose client used to be Manchester United, 857 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,560 and we are somehow led to believe 858 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,760 that this did not come up in conversation. 859 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,040 The idea that he wouldn't be discussing it 860 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,040 when he's had this opportunity to, 861 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,440 with somebody as central to Downing Street 862 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,160 and the government as Rosenfeld, is sort of for the birds. 863 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,760 We spoke to Woodward's representatives 864 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,320 who denied that this had come up. 865 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,720 And yet, we were being contacted, 866 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,920 well I was being contacted more and more by people 867 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,000 who claim that it had been discussed. 868 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,280 There were suggestions 869 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,160 that Boris had been told about this idea for this ESL 870 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,040 and had thought it was a good idea. 871 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,560 Ed Woodward had come away with the impression 872 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,320 that the government would not stand in the way, 873 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,400 and that that was significant in their decision 874 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,240 to push the button on it on that Sunday. 875 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,040 Our responsibility's bigger than football. 876 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,040 We have the hopes and dreams of a whole city 877 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,360 resting on our shoulders. 878 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,760 It's about delivering something for the people of Leeds 879 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,120 that gives them their sense of identity. 880 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,960 The way I view the Super League, 881 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,520 it would've been catastrophic for Leeds United, 882 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,360 particularly because we'd worked so hard 883 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,360 to get ourselves back to having a seat at the top table of domestic football. 884 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,360 That's why the Liverpool match was so relevant. 885 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,280 In the Super League world, 886 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,440 Liverpool would've not had to worry about qualification for Europe, 887 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,520 which is something that drives all of us, 888 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,720 and it would've been compounded by the fact that 889 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,280 the money they'd have made from that 890 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,680 would've meant that they'd have been able to outgun us 891 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:53,160 to such a significant degree 892 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,880 that there'd probably never be another competitive match 893 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,320 between Liverpool and Leeds United again. 894 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:05,600 I'll be brutally honest, 895 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,680 were we playing Crystal Palace that night, 896 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,720 I doubt the protest would've had any traction. 897 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,840 It was, if you like, that perfect storm. 898 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,880 They were coming to Elland Road, 899 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,960 they were one of the clubs that were gonna be magically getting 900 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,760 their position immaterial of where they were currently. 901 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160 You realise something like this is happening 902 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,160 and we go into overdrive as a group. 903 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,320 We were getting contacted by Leeds supporter groups who were saying, 904 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,400 "Can you come up, put a protest on together?" 905 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,800 We were still in Covid, but people were all aghast, in horror, 906 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,840 about the decision that had been made. 907 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,360 These owners are just absolutely pricing it for themselves. 908 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,640 Let's us make billions and forget about everyone else. 909 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,480 The game of football was for the working class citizens 910 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,120 and it's not any more. 911 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,160 # They know what they are They know what they are 912 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,920 # Six greedy bastards They know what they are # 913 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:04,000 Liverpool as a football club had made this decision, 914 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,280 whether it's their owners or not, to follow greed over sporting merit, 915 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,120 and that was not just Leeds fans singing. 916 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,160 There were Liverpool fans singing as well, next to us. 917 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:20,360 You have this fury that had been largely online 918 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,600 starting to manifest in the real world. 919 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,480 (FANS BOO) 920 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,040 (FANS CHANT) 921 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,320 Everybody just ran in one go towards the coach, 922 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,600 followed it around. 923 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,040 # You dirty greedy bastards! You dirty greedy bastards! # 924 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,080 I'm fairly certain they heard us. 925 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,360 The players were angry anyway, 926 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,760 because they definitely found out with the rest of us. 927 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,560 They certainly hadn't been consulted at any of the clubs, 928 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,200 and now they're all meant to take the fury of the public 929 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,520 for their owners. 930 00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:02,600 CHANTING: We're fans united, we'll never be defeated. 931 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,960 We're fans united, we'll never be defeated. 932 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,320 We're fans united, we'll never be defeated. 933 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,920 We're fans united... 934 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,560 Good evening and welcome to a Monday night football like no other. 935 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,840 Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are here tonight 936 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,080 to give us their thoughts and there is strong feeling in the room. 937 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:27,360 Football fans get together, all of us, get together, and stop this. 938 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,200 We need marches on stadiums, supporters getting together- 939 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,640 This cannot be allowed to happen. 940 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,280 When I woke up and I saw the statement, 941 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,560 and it had Joel Glazer's name on it, 942 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,520 I thought, this is a problem, big problem. 943 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,480 He doesn't put his name on anything, that man. 944 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,560 We must come together now and it must be stopped. 945 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,240 We do have a live game tonight. 946 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,920 Leeds United are playing Liverpool, and we will bring it to you, 947 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,640 but it has become very much secondary to the bigger picture. 948 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,960 Liverpool's players were really angry when they got into the dressing room 949 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,840 and found T-shirts had been left for them 950 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,280 with the Champions League logo, 951 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,200 saying you have to earn your right to play in the Champions League. 952 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,520 It was a simple gesture 953 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,560 that we had no idea would get the traction that it did. 954 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,840 It comes down to the fact that no one begrudges the fact 955 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,000 that the top six play in Europe so regularly, but they've earned it. 956 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,440 I think we'd seen a backlash, didn't we, against the football club, 957 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,760 against Klopp, 958 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,920 against individuals that had nothing to do with that decision 959 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,800 taken by John Henry. 960 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,880 That was maybe an unfair reflection on the players, 961 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,760 but you can understand from Leeds' perspective, can't you? 962 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,960 They were basically saying, 963 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,360 "We're gonna go out and sweat for 90 minutes 964 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,400 and we wanna achieve what we can, 965 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,520 but we'll earn it over the course of a season". 966 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960 So, here we are, with a lot to talk about. 967 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,000 Liverpool will climb from sixth into the top four 968 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,760 if they win this evening, but tonight there are no guarantees, 969 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,840 as they try within the present syste 970 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,560 to qualify for next season's Champions League 971 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000 by securing a place in the top four. 972 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400 This is very much about players' dreams 973 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800 as much as it is about fans' dreams. 974 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,160 Our captain, when he was playing in the Championship, 975 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,920 Liam Cooper, was known as League One Liam, 976 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,840 because nobody thought he was good enough to play in the Championship. 977 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880 A year and a half later, he's captained the team 978 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,120 who've won the championship by ten points 979 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,880 and is now playing in the top half of the Premier League. 980 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,120 You know, their dreams are tied to this issue 981 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,880 as much as anybody else's. 982 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,160 This actually struck at the heart of why they play the game. 983 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,320 That game is David/Goliath. 984 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,680 Leeds are brand new back to the Premier League, 985 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,560 you're playing against Liverpool, 986 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,760 who, you know, millions of pounds sat on the bench. 987 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,840 It's a tremendous run that's been made by Alexander-Arnold 988 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,360 and he's lined it up for Sadio Mane, whose goal drought is over. 989 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,760 Having gone one up, 990 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,960 the game was probably destined to only go one way, 991 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,840 and yet Leeds through pluck, energy, endeavour, 992 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,360 through earning it, 993 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,480 worked hard and got a goal late in the game. 994 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,080 Oh, and they've got it! 995 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,040 Leeds showing yet again they can mix it with the big boys. 996 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,080 To come back in the 87th minute with an equaliser, 997 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,600 to stop Liverpool going into the top four, 998 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,360 just demonstrated why we needed to protect 999 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,320 what was special about that match. 1000 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:03,360 After the game, Liverpool's oldest player, James Milner, 1001 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,600 is asked what he makes of it, 1002 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,920 and his response is the perfect response. 1003 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,520 You know, I can only say my personal opinion, I don't like it, 1004 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,000 and, you know, hopefully it doesn't happen. 1005 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,160 Plain Yorkshire speaking. 1006 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,280 I'd say the sense of betrayal was felt by Liverpool Football Club: 1007 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,480 players, manager. 1008 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,800 I think you've seen that within the faces, didn't you, 1009 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,560 and the reactions after the game. 1010 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,520 I mean, you know, these are good people, aren't they? 1011 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,600 The team has nothing to do with it 1012 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,600 and the- I have not really anything to do with it, 1013 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,440 but people treat us like that. 1014 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,960 The Leeds supporters came here today before the game were shouting at us. 1015 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,240 In the city, when we had a walk this afternoon, 1016 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,240 people were shouting at us. We have nothing to do with it. 1017 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,720 You could see, you could just see, you know, in Klopp's face 1018 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,760 the hurt, you know, the hurt. 1019 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,120 And again, we go back to betrayal. 1020 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,600 There will be a moment for sure, 1021 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,960 when our owners... 1022 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,600 ..say what they have to say, definitely, I'm sure. 1023 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,480 (CLAPPING HANDS) 1024 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,320 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1025 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,200 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1026 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,880 Perez has always understood that spending was at the core of this. 1027 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,720 The shift was saying that this level of spending is unsustainable. 1028 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,240 At the moment, players are trading for £100 million. 1029 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,160 What's gonna happen in five years? Is it gonna be 250 million, 1030 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,600 is it gonna be 500 million? 1031 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,000 These are starting to be some pretty ridiculous numbers. 1032 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,800 To an extent, Perez's motivations are understandable. 1033 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,680 He sees Real Madrid falling away, accelerated by the pandemic, 1034 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,360 and for several years, 1035 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,200 his favoured solution has been a Super League 1036 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,880 that exists to benefit Real Madrid. 1037 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,800 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1038 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,040 This is a $6 billion project, 1039 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:02,920 and yet by Monday evening you still don't have any public face, 1040 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,880 until Florentino Perez goes on 1041 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,480 a slightly chintzy Spanish chat show. 1042 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,320 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1043 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,320 (CONVERSATION IN SPANISH) 1044 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,040 (LAUGHING) 1045 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,440 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1046 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,680 If you were a billionaire in today's society, 1047 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,200 you're effectively able to live in your own cocoon. 1048 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,000 You don't need to talk to the press. You don't need to do anything. 1049 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,600 When was the last time anyone sat down for an interview with 1050 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,400 John Henry and asked him a tough question? 1051 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,200 And all of a sudden, they're all exposed 1052 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,880 and the only spokesperson that emerges is Perez, 1053 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,160 and he goes on this crazy Spanish TV show. 1054 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,080 They clearly did not have a plan 1055 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,240 about how they were going to win over people on this project. 1056 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,960 Breaking news this morning, the Prime Minister said 1057 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,960 he was gonna do something, and he is gonna do something today. 1058 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,880 The Super League have chucked a grenade at the Premier League 1059 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,600 and chucked a grenade to everyone else. 1060 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,200 Well, chuck one back. Ban them. 1061 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,120 There is nothing that prevents Parliament stepping in 1062 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,840 and Government stepping in if that's what it chooses to do. 1063 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,600 I got the call up saying 1064 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,320 the Prime Minister wanted to have a meeting with some fan reps 1065 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,680 and was I able to put that together? 1066 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,920 Football fans are always there with the football club. 1067 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,080 Players come and go, managers come and go, 1068 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,360 the one constant that you can be sure of, 1069 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,960 and it's the collective voice is what gives us our strength, 1070 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,120 so we needed to make sure that that voice in numbers 1071 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,080 was raised as loud as it can be. 1072 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,520 The meeting with the Prime Minister was on Zoom 1073 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,320 because we couldn't go to Downing Street, 1074 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,160 because of the pandemic, 1075 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,320 So I was in my office at home, 1076 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,280 thinking, "This is really quite extraordinary". 1077 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,400 Here was I talking football with the Prime Minister. 1078 01:08:19,480 --> 01:08:21,320 He actually opened the meeting 1079 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:26,040 by saying to us "Why am I, a free market conservative, 1080 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,600 proposing to intervene on a matter of privately-owned companies? 1081 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,440 "I am aware of the irony, but I need to do something to step in 1082 01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:35,560 and protect the national sport". 1083 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:37,880 The Prime Minister's next question 1084 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,400 was to the Chief Executive of the FA, Mark Bullingham, 1085 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:44,920 who effectively said, "Well, we agree with what the fan reps have said". 1086 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,400 That was a first. 1087 01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:49,520 And then it went across to the chief executive of the Premier League, 1088 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,720 Richard Masters, 1089 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,000 and the question there was, "Do you have the authority 1090 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,360 to exclude these people from your competitions?" 1091 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,240 Richard masters replied, 1092 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,440 "We have a very good case, but it's not a perfect one". 1093 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:06,600 And that was the point at which the Prime Minister said, 1094 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,040 "We are prepared to throw a legislative bomb 1095 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,240 to solve this problem". 1096 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,840 Government was saying, 1097 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,160 "We know you can't deal with this on your own. 1098 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,680 We're coming to help you." 1099 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,920 Good afternoon. 1100 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,120 How can it be right to have a situation 1101 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,240 in which you create a kind of cartel 1102 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,520 that stops clubs competing against each other? 1103 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,400 It's classic Johnson, isn't it? What does it mean? What did it mean? 1104 01:09:32,440 --> 01:09:35,480 I think it was just the fact that the Prime Minister was actually saying 1105 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,240 these sorts of things, the language, 1106 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,600 it must've terrified the executives of the clubs involved 1107 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,480 By this point, it's very hard to see much support publicly, at least, 1108 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,400 for the league going ahead. 1109 01:09:48,440 --> 01:09:50,520 You've got politicians, you've got royalty, 1110 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,480 you've got football bodies, you've got fans, 1111 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,640 you've got current and former players, 1112 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,520 all lined up squarely against the Super League. 1113 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,480 (KEYBOARD CLICKING) 1114 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,840 Fans are the most important thing in football. 1115 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,320 They have to be respected. 1116 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:46,320 Did these big clubs ask to their fan what they thought about this idea? 1117 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,280 No, unfortunately, and that's a shame. 1118 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,760 "Intriguingly, we've still to hear from FIFA, 1119 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,720 world football's governing body, on this." 1120 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,120 FIFA was very quiet for the first 48 hours, 1121 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,080 but then FIFA was not likely to be averse 1122 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,760 to the idea of an organisation coming along 1123 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,880 to take the power away from UEFA. 1124 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,000 UEFA and FIFA are the two most powerful organisations in football, 1125 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,240 and UEFA is too powerful for FIFA's liking. 1126 01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:22,800 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1127 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,800 (LAUGHS) 1128 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,080 Gianni Infantino, the President of FIFA, 1129 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,080 is determined to reshape the game in his image. 1130 01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,200 He wants to do something big. 1131 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,320 He wants the world to know that he was here, 1132 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,640 because there's still a stain on FIFA. 1133 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:49,760 It is known as the beautiful game, but today soccer is reeling. 1134 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,440 Fourteen FIFA officials have been indicted on corruption charges. 1135 01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,520 This is all stems from a US investigation 1136 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,880 that's uncovered millions of dollars in alleged bribes and kickbacks. 1137 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,040 Here we go Sepp, that's... 1138 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,920 They were expected to uphold the rules that keep soccer honest, 1139 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,400 and to protect the integrity of the game. 1140 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,840 Instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer 1141 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,600 to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. 1142 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,080 Mr Blatter, you've been kicked out in disgrace. How does it feel? 1143 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,240 It's well known the level of corruption that exists at FIFA. 1144 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,800 Infantino rose on sort of a mandate to kind of clean out the Blatter era. 1145 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,960 But there are still tons of questions around how FIFA is run 1146 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,360 and, to this day, sort of, who holds FIFA accountable. 1147 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,880 I cannot speak about FIFA, 1148 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,800 but UEFA was anyway a very clean organisation before I came. 1149 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:47,000 We have to be as honest as possible, as absolutely clean, 1150 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,120 and this is what gives you power. 1151 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,880 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1152 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,360 Infantino in some ways is the chief political player. 1153 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,040 He plays all sides because he has to. 1154 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,200 He technically represents all sides. 1155 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,560 So, it's undoubtedly the case that he was in the loop on this. 1156 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,000 I pass the floor to FIFA President, Gianni Infantino. 1157 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,160 Gianni, the floor is yours. 1158 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,880 (APPLAUSE) 1159 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,320 Infantino was under a lot of pressure from Ceferin. 1160 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,600 Ceferin made it abundantly clear to Infantino 1161 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,000 that he had to say something and he had to say something now. 1162 01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,600 The Super League clubs thought they had the approval of FIFA. 1163 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,920 For both of them it was a chance to damage UEFA, 1164 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,920 which was what both of those parties - the clubs and FIFA - 1165 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,240 needed to do. 1166 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:13,160 The last 48 hours obviously changed everything. 1167 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:19,440 And it seems that there is only one topic which is of interest. 1168 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:26,600 Of course, I'm speaking about this Super League project. 1169 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,720 If FIFA had come out and say, 1170 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,560 "We're OK with this, you can do it", 1171 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,400 then suddenly everything changes, it is signed, sealed, and delivered. 1172 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:41,440 So, let me be extremely clear from the very beginning... 1173 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:45,280 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1174 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,160 The Super League founders understood 1175 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,760 that Infantino was a key player they needed to attract. 1176 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,920 They believed they had him on side, 1177 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,200 but no one really fully understands where he actually sat. 1178 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:12,000 ..at FIFA, we can only and strongly disapprove 1179 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,280 the creation of the Super League. 1180 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,040 There is no doubt whatsoever... 1181 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,160 ..of FIFA's disapproval for this. 1182 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,520 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1183 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,840 FIFA is here, and I'm here today as the FIFA President, 1184 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,240 to bring full support to European football. 1185 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,320 There is a lot to throw away... 1186 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,560 ..for maybe a short-term financial gain of some. 1187 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,960 (APPLAUSE) 1188 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,800 Thank you very much, Gianni, for your speech. 1189 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,080 Thank you very much that you personally and FIFA, 1190 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,600 together with other football stakeholders, 1191 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,600 defend the real sporting values. 1192 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,800 It was the first Premier League meeting where six clubs 1193 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,520 haven't been invited. 1194 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,040 In terms of British football history, we were at a point 1195 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,960 which was probably the most significant 1196 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,560 since the founding of the Premier League. 1197 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,800 The atmosphere was very strong and belligerent. 1198 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,080 There was quite a bit of personal anger, you know, 1199 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,920 directed towards individuals that they felt, you know, 1200 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,720 that knew this was happening at the very- you didn't tell us. 1201 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,360 Despite the fact that we are ultimately faceless administrators 1202 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,440 that should play no real meaningful part in the game, 1203 01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:06,920 we're actually pretty much, to a man, all football fans. 1204 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,800 It was almost like we were- you know, if we didn't act, 1205 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,840 then the game might die on our watch. 1206 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:19,080 There were quite strong views on punishment, 1207 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,000 but none of it was particularly well formed. 1208 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,200 Expulsion wasn't really an option. 1209 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,840 You know, it was a, kind of, shoot yourself in the foot option. 1210 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,000 But I think the main thing at the time 1211 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,960 was to prevent it happening. That was the main focus. 1212 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,080 There are a couple of clubs that we knew 1213 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,800 that, you know, would really not be enjoying 1214 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,080 the place that they'd been put into. 1215 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:47,880 The strategy was to get one of the clubs to back out of it. 1216 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,680 # It's coming home, it's coming Football's coming home 1217 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,720 # It's coming home... # 1218 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,280 We knew there was a lot of anger by Chelsea supporters. 1219 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,680 We needed to be that kind of focal point, that voice box 1220 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,480 because if you're shouting and screaming into the abyss, 1221 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,560 nobody is really listening. 1222 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,280 These pictures just into us from Stamford Bridge. 1223 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,800 Chelsea up against Brighton tonight. 1224 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:21,000 These are some of the Chelsea fans who are gathering to voice their protest. 1225 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,360 If you look at it from an outside perspective, 1226 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,320 Chelsea are going to get much more money 1227 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,840 in this European super League 1228 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,080 than in the Champions League and the Premier League, 1229 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,560 surely this is a good idea. 1230 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,960 But you would effectively have that top six every single season, 1231 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,240 and it'd be pretty boring. 1232 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,640 There were suggestions starting to filter through Chelsea and Manchester City, 1233 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,000 the two teams who need the Super League the least, 1234 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,720 because the way that football's economics currently work 1235 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,960 is absolutely fine for them, 1236 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,280 were starting to have second thoughts. 1237 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,120 It's not a sport when the relation between the effort and the success, 1238 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,440 the effort and the reward, doesn't exist, don't exist. 1239 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:00,120 So, it's not a sport. 1240 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,520 So, it's not a sport if the success is already guaranteed 1241 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,840 It's not a sport and it doesn't matter if you lose. 1242 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,920 I think they were presented on Friday with an ultimatum, 1243 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,520 "This is going ahead this weekend, you're either in or out". 1244 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,640 Either you're on board and you get the money, 1245 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,760 or you're out forever, so what are you gonna do? 1246 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,360 (APPLAUSE) 1247 01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:30,800 You had this strong response from England at every level. 1248 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,320 It was important for the English clubs 1249 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,920 to realise that the plan of the like of Real and Juve were pure fantasy. 1250 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,240 Gentlemen, you made a huge mistake. 1251 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,800 Some will say it is greed... 1252 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,400 ..others disdain, arrogance, flippancy, 1253 01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:00,080 or complete ignorance of England's football culture. 1254 01:20:01,480 --> 01:20:05,440 Come to your senses, not out of love for football, 1255 01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:09,400 because I imagine some of you don't have much of that, 1256 01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:14,880 but out of respect for those who bleed themselves dry, 1257 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,960 so that they can go to the stadium to support a team 1258 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,960 and want the dream to be kept alive. 1259 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,880 For those, you change your mind. 1260 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,120 More and more are gathering. 1261 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,040 That's where the coaches should arrive, 1262 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,040 but that's where the fans have positioned themselves. 1263 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,760 CHANTING: Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! 1264 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,440 Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! 1265 01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:42,600 There were thousands of people there 1266 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:48,000 # Chelsea, wherever you may be We are the famous CFC # 1267 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,640 It was just the average Chelsea supporter 1268 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,840 saying, "You made a decision. 1269 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,160 I don't like it and I'm gonna tell you about it". 1270 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,200 Do you want Chelsea to win today? 1271 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,360 I mean, if you gave me the choice, I'd say yeah, 1272 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,520 but realistically you can hear, we're not Chelsea any more. 1273 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,000 While it's like this it doesn't matter to us. 1274 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,760 I grew up, it was just my mum, brother and me, 1275 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,040 I didn't really have that male influence, 1276 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,560 and my mum's best friend bought my brother and I Chelsea shirts. 1277 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,640 Since that day, it's always been Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. 1278 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,840 Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! Chelsea! 1279 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,960 There was a lot of frustration and raw anger. 1280 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,040 Supporters are, you know, fed up of being treated like customers 1281 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,640 rather than football fans. 1282 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,080 They have to listen. 1283 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,080 If the fans aren't behind it, 1284 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,680 then I will honestly boycott the matches. 1285 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,440 No one's gonna watch them. It's over for them. 1286 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:51,640 Fuck the Super League! 1287 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,080 Fuck the Super League! Yeah, fuck the Super League! 1288 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,840 What we saw at Chelsea was a particularly memorable sign 1289 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:01,280 being held up by one fan, "We want our cold nights in Stoke". 1290 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,440 That banner epitomises the beauty of the English game, 1291 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:08,200 especially in the Premier League. 1292 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:13,680 On paper, Chelsea should be beating the likes of Burnley and Brentford 1293 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,360 every single day of the week. 1294 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,760 However, will we? No. 1295 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,600 And that's one thing which the Super League would just take away, 1296 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,960 because there would be no competition at all. 1297 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,000 He's coming, here comes Petr Cech, he's having a word with the fans. 1298 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,360 Here he comes. 1299 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,200 The man in amongst all of that is Petr Cech, 1300 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,240 of course former Chelsea goalkeeper. 1301 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,720 Come on, you've got this. 1302 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,640 I couldn't quite believe what was going on. 1303 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,640 I thought it was a lookalike. 1304 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,720 That huge image of Petr Cech speaking to the crowd, 1305 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,680 it was, you know, biblical. 1306 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,560 (FANS BOO) 1307 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,920 The fact that Petr Cech couldn't get people to listen, 1308 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,560 I think they realised how angry the supporters were. 1309 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,560 (FANS CHANTING) 1310 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,520 They would've understood 1311 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,080 the reaction from the fans of the teams 1312 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,240 that weren't in it being negative. 1313 01:23:30,440 --> 01:23:32,520 The thing they didn't understand at all 1314 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,000 was that their own fans turned on them. 1315 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,600 And at that point, early evening on Tuesday, 1316 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,840 the clubs genuinely lose their nerve. 1317 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,240 Wait, what's happened, what's happened? 1318 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,200 What's happened? Show us, show us. 1319 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,640 No way. No way. Oh my God. 1320 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,640 (FANS CHEER) 1321 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,640 Chelsea have left it. Chelsea have left it. 1322 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,160 # We're out of the Super League! 1323 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,400 # We're out of the Super League! 1324 01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:03,520 # We're out of the Super League! We're out of the Super League! 1325 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,840 # We're out of the Super League! # 1326 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,560 It was like we had just won the Champions League again. 1327 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,680 The fact that we were the ones who broke the factory owner's back 1328 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,640 and made them heel to our demands 1329 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,440 was something that I will take with me forever. 1330 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,960 # We've got our Chelsea back We've got our Chelsea back! 1331 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,120 # We've got our Chelsea back We've got our Chelsea back! 1332 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,080 Maybe they just thought, "D'you know what, 1333 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,480 this would be a bit crap". 1334 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,320 That's what I like to think, you know, 1335 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,400 "And it would be a bit naff really, you know, 1336 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:44,320 and dare I say a bit American." 1337 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,360 "And everybody seems to not like it 1338 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,680 and we're not making ourselves very popular, so let's not do it". 1339 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,080 In football a weaker team can win. 1340 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,960 I don't see any other group sport 1341 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,320 that, that the weaker team can win, a much weaker team. 1342 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,800 And this is something that, that is unexplainable. 1343 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,960 I think that, I know that football is something special. 1344 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,920 It's part of our culture that will stay forever. 1345 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,040 Plans for a controversial European Football Super League 1346 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,560 are unravelling tonight... 1347 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,680 Chelsea and Manchester City are out, 1348 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,080 while Manchester United have been rocked by the news 1349 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,600 that Ed Woodward has resigned as Executive Vice Chairman. 1350 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,400 We're being told it has nothing to d with the Super League, 1351 01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:39,520 and yet timing's a very important thing in football. 1352 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,880 Sources close to Woodward always insist that Ed Woodward was 1353 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,040 personally opposed to the Super League 1354 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,200 and that is the reason that he ultimately resigned. 1355 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,120 Other people within the game are saying, yeah, 1356 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,840 but at the same time you're meeting the chief of staff 1357 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,880 at number 10 on the Wednesday. 1358 01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,440 There's plenty of people who suspect that it was the complete disaster 1359 01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:03,280 that maybe left him with little choice but to resign 1360 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,120 from his position in terms of his credibility within the club. 1361 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,920 There is an imminent announcement due from the other four English clubs. 1362 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,880 It was clear clubs were starting to withdraw from the Super League. 1363 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,400 Chelsea and Manchester City went first. 1364 01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:20,640 Not surprisingly, the Americans hung on together for a bit longer. 1365 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,680 We were just watching like everybody else, 1366 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,080 watching it unfold 1367 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,640 and, you know, everyone was watching the Sky ticker line. 1368 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,160 Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement 1369 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,040 in proposed plans to form a European Super League 1370 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,000 has been discontinued. 1371 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:41,440 As soon as one club broke away from the cartel, as such, 1372 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:44,080 it had to be all or nothing, didn't it? 1373 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,600 Manchester United will not be participating. 1374 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,560 Spurs, "We can confirm 1375 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,240 that we have formally commenced procedures 1376 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,600 to withdraw from the group developing proposals 1377 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,200 for a European Super League." 1378 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,920 You could just feel the momentum 1379 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,200 building towards the next statement from another club, 1380 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,200 because their fan base was going ballistic. 1381 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,400 Arsenal, "As a result of listening to you 1382 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,640 and the wider football community over recent days, 1383 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,960 we are withdrawing from the proposed Super League. 1384 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,640 We made a mistake and we apologise for it." 1385 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,400 Managers, players, spectators, people who work for the clubs, 1386 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,880 people that run football were against it, 1387 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,400 but most importantly the supporters were against it. 1388 01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:34,320 We've got a happy ending. The good guys have won. 1389 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,840 I've seen plenty of businesses collapse very dramatically, 1390 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,600 but I've never seen something implode 1391 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,760 as swiftly as the Super League did. 1392 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,000 So I guess we start with the obvious this project, it's dead. 1393 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,680 That's it? It's dead. 1394 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,560 It fell apart officially within 48 hours. 1395 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,720 It will go down as one of the worst executed plans of all time. 1396 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,160 A car crash really, for those 12 owners. 1397 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,320 European football had existed for 30 years under this threat 1398 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,760 of the big clubs doing their own thing. 1399 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,720 That was the threat that governed every change in European football. 1400 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,960 And then when it came to pass, 1401 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,240 when the biggest and the brightest and the best minds came together 1402 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,080 and got their plan together and said, "This is what we're doing", 1403 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,160 it lasted for 48 hours. 1404 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,480 The mystery around where Andrea Agnelli was, 1405 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,120 was quite a gripping one in Italy. 1406 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,040 We don't really hear his thoughts until the Wednesday, 1407 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,360 and what's most astonishing about that 1408 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,360 is that by the Tuesday night, 1409 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,040 the English part of it is already starting to fall apart. 1410 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,760 Can you really progress 1411 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,200 with a project for a Super League with five or six teams? 1412 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:56,200 Look, I think, to be frank and honest, no. 1413 01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,120 I remain convinced of the beauty of that project, 1414 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,720 of the value it would've developed to the pyramid, 1415 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,120 of the creation of the best competition in the world, 1416 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,720 but admittedly, no. 1417 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:13,720 I mean, I don't think that project is now still up and running. 1418 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,080 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 1419 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,680 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1420 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,280 CHANTING: Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal! 1421 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:02,040 When we come together to express our frustration, 1422 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,800 things can change very quickly, as the Super League demonstrated. 1423 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,200 What made the Super League story so fantastically dramatic 1424 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,440 was that one week where JP Morgan Chase, 1425 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,960 billionaires from the US and Europe and China, 1426 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,640 all were held accountable by football fans. 1427 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,920 Do you have anything to say to Manchester United fans, Mr Glazer 1428 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,840 An apology perhaps, Mr Glazer? 1429 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,720 In the world of business, this just doesn't happen. 1430 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,000 This is what it means to us. 1431 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,120 This is what football means to the fans. 1432 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,560 And we won't stop this until we get our football club back. 1433 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,880 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1434 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:00,920 This is the irony, 1435 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,640 the thing that's attracted all of these owners to football, 1436 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,160 whether it's a Russian oligarch or a Gulf state, 1437 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,280 or an American hedge fund, 1438 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,560 the reason they've all ploughed money into it, 1439 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,000 is that it does generate this incredible passion. 1440 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,000 What happened with the Super League was that that was the thing 1441 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:19,160 that undid them too. 1442 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,840 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 1443 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:43,880 If you look at who the single biggest winner of this project has been, 1444 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,120 it is Nasser Al-Khelaifi of PSG, 1445 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,120 because he's now the head of the European Clubs Association, 1446 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,960 they've just signed Messi, and they can spend what they want 1447 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,440 and there's no consequences. 1448 01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:55,440 That is closely followed by Man City 1449 01:31:55,480 --> 01:31:57,400 who have just spent 100 million on Grealish... 1450 01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:01,440 "Make some noise for Jack Grealish!" 1451 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,880 And again, the astronomical player wages are now just unleashed. 1452 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,800 You can make a case that football always reflects the world as it is, 1453 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:20,400 and what we see now is a rampant drive by the 1% 1454 01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:23,320 to acquire as much of the wealth as possible, 1455 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,760 and everybody else struggling to survive. 1456 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,280 What we lost in that week was an opportunity 1457 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,880 to have a real discussion about the state of the game. 1458 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,360 It was just raw anger 1459 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:45,360 and a story that projected some of the inequality in society. 1460 01:32:47,480 --> 01:32:49,640 Football come together, didn't it? 1461 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,800 In a way that I've never seen before. 1462 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,040 All the planets were aligned against greed. 1463 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,160 Will we ever recapture that again? I don't know. 1464 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,600 AccessibleCustomerService@sky.uk