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Another round?
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I really shouldn't.
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I'm not in the best headspace.
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What's wrong?
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I got a cabin about an hour from here.
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I went out scavenging. Came home
to find it overrun by groaners.
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Came to the right place.
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We uh, got a guy here,
he does groaner work.
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Could maybe loan him out.
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Really? Is he any good?
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He's the best I ever saw.
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So he's, like, based out of
here, lives at the motel?
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Generator needs a refill by now.
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Wh... where's the little girl's room?
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Down the hall. First on the left.
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You know, I had a hunch
you were up to something.
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Let me guess, Vasquez from down
the road sent you here to snoop?
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Mm-mm-mm.
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Well...
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I've got a little message for Vasquez.
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Hold her still.
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I reckon you're gonna have trouble
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sniffing around after this.
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Ah!
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Ah! Ugh...
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Hey! Where you going?
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Come here, baby.
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Sorry, thought you were
better on your feet.
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Good to see you, too.
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Wanted by the New Babylon Marshals.
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Well, goddamn.
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For a wanted man, I look good.
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Can I keep this?
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I'm keeping this.
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Ginny. Hey, come here.
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You remember what I taught you?
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Where's Annie and your kid?
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Ginny, this here is Maggie.
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See, Maggie and I are...
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old acquaintances.
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So, you are either here not to kill me,
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or you have gotten seriously rusty.
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A few weeks back, I got raided.
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Outnumbered, overpowered,
stole all our grain.
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Said they'd be back in a month for more.
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Then a month after that...
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took a hostage as collateral.
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They took your kid.
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I tracked them
all the way up the Hudson,
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by then they'd already made it across.
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Across to what?
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Manhattan.
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Hey...
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That is a really nice job.
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Will you do me a favor and
go finish checking on our shit?
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Thank you.
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I hate to even ask, but
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how do I figure into this, Maggie?
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The man who's got Hershel,
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they call him the Croat.
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Bullshit. You know him.
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When he scaled our walls,
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had us surrounded in the dark,
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right before he took my son.
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Do you know what he did?
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That rings a bell, doesn't it?
It did for me.
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That's the last thing I heard
before I met you.
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Oh, that Croat.
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All right, so what you're thinking is,
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since I knew this guy back in the day
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when I was running the show,
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that maybe I had some special
insight into his modus operandi.
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Or, hell, maybe I could just
sweet-talk him
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into giving you your boy back.
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We're talking about the same Croat?
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Let's just say there were a lot
of psychos in my crew back then.
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But he always stood out as being
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an exceptionally insane son of a bitch.
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So the odds are
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if it's the Croat that's got him...
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No.
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All right, tell me this.
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Why would I help you?
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- Because you owe me...
- Because I owe you, right.
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You're the last person
that I wanted to ask for help.
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It doesn't look like you got
too many options yourself.
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Because if I found you here,
the marshals will too.
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Far as I can tell, you have
exhausted every shithole.
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Still got a decent setup at Hilltop?
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Kids? School?
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I'll put up that girl.
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You, we see how things play out.
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Fair enough.
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Here, take this. There you go.
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Hey. I don't recall this
being the way to Hilltop.
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It's because it isn't.
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That's not what we talked about, Maggie.
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It's the same people, same setup.
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Just had to relocate
after you help burn it down.
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If you recall that.
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Here you go, kid.
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I was on the run, doing a stint
on a farm about a year ago.
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The marshals came poking around.
She asked to go with me.
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Why doesn't she talk?
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The tale the people on the farm told,
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she was living with her dad.
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He took off one night, didn't come back.
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She went looking for him.
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She found him.
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He, uh, he'd turned.
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It was bad.
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She could tell by looking at him
that it wasn't the dead.
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It wasn't an animal.
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It was a person or people.
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She just hasn't spoken since.
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It's me.
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Marshals!
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What? Shit, put that away!
Put that away!
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- Check the rooms.
- Sorry. For sure.
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Have you seen this man?
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Goes by the name of Negan.
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The reason it's crucial we find this man
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is because he's murdered
a magistrate in cold blood,
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along with four others.
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Which means under Code 14,
Section 2 of New Babylon law,
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he'll be executed.
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But not just executed.
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Nothing so magnanimous
as a hanging or beheading, no.
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For what this man has done,
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he'll be dangled upside down
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and sawed in half lengthwise
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from the groin to the head
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very, very slowly.
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This is a man who's built up an empire
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like a greedy king.
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Story goes, he once lined up
a group of unarmed folks
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and he bashed in a man's head
with a baseball bat
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in front of the man's pregnant wife.
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Tranquillitas ordinis.
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Tranquility, order, justice, the law.
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That's what keeps our
Federation of States at peace.
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Safe, stable.
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I'm going to ask you one last time,
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have you seen this man?
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Alright, then.
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Liquor, drugs, gambling, whoredom,
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all prohibited under Code 19,
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together amounting
to a public execution.
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Damnit, you're breaking my arm!
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I am. You're very perceptive.
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Okay. Yes. Yeah, Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I did see him. I did see him.
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He... he's... he worked here.
He killed the walkers.
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- Someone took him. A woman.
- A woman?
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Yeah. I... I'd never seen her
before today.
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- Where'd she take him?
- I don't know.
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- She drove off in a car!
- Describe the car.
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I don't know!
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It was a blue truck parked out front.
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That's it! That's it! I swear! I swear!
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That's it, I swear!
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See. That's all you needed to say.
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The truth.
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- And yet, Code 14, Section 8.
- What?
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Aiding and abetting.
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Ah! No!
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I promise you something.
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Alright? I will come back for you soon.
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'Kay?
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It's getting late.
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You be good.
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They're going to
take care of her, right?
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They're gonna... Good people?
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That's how it's going to be?
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Unless you want the law
catching up with you.
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So it's her, huh?
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Same woman's been looking for him
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and leaving all those
broken bones behind.
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Hey.
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What I did back there
wasn't 'cause I wanted to.
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It had to be done.
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What is it?
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Mom!
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Hershel!
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Hell, when I was a kid, my pop,
he went on a business trip
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or some shit to New York City,
and he brought me back this
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little souvenir of the
Statue of Liberty.
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I remember, I just couldn't
imagine how something so small
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could also be so giant. You know?
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So, anyway, Pop, he, uh...
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He promises he's going to take
me in to see the real thing and
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makes a whole plan, you know,
picked a weekend and
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train tickets, the whole nine.
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And as generally was
the case with my dad...
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... something came up, I guess.
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Anyway, I still haven't seen
Lady Liberty in the flesh.
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All right, so how's this whole
operation supposed to lay out?
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I mean, besides the part
where I charm my old pal
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into giving you your kid back?
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I got a plan.
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Ah, top secret, huh?
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I am on a need-to-know basis, I guess.
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That's cool, you don't trust me.
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Hell, I wouldn't trust me either.
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You see, I got what I wanted.
Ginny is safe.
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She is comfortable.
I could kill you right now.
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You could try.
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But then I'd have to kill you first.
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Well, there's a big difference.
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You see, if I'm dead,
you don't get your son back.
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You need me.
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I got a feeling it cuts both ways.
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And I'm sure the marshals
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would have something to say about that.
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What I did...
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It's not like the marshals say.
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Besides,
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I do believe I've paid
for what I've done.
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So? Building's on fire
in a city that's gone to shit.
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Camped out three days watching the city.
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Smoke shows up like that
every morning at the same time,
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and then again at night. Just like that.
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You're thinkin' breakfast and dinner?
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Then again, Maggie,
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sometimes a building on fire
is just a building on fire.
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One more after this.
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So what's the deal with Manhattan?
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What's so special about it?
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Manhattan was one of the epicenters.
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Military destroyed all the
bridges and tunnels,
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hoping to contain it,
hoping to contain them.
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Once home to a million
and a half people.
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Now...
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Let's do a sweep.
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Don't.
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Shit! Gritz!
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Empty your pockets.
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And your gun.
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They don't give you one until
you've been in the service
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for three months.
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Well, you got something in your pocket.
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They're for my grandma. She's sick.
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She's not my blood grandma,
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but she looked after me
when I was little.
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I'm all she has left.
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Good try, kid, pullin'
on our heartstrings.
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What are you doing?
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Tossing him overboard. It's not
like he's coming to the party.
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Hey, relax. It's a short swim.
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You can doggy paddle. You'll be fine.
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No!
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He is a marshal, Maggie...
Junior Marshal.
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Whatever the hell he is.
Every second he stays,
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he's a threat, a liability.
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Yeah, or insurance.
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Either way, it doesn't matter
what you think.
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You know, you have been sticking
it to me in infinite little ways
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since the second we hooked up.
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Don't think I haven't noticed.
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00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:55,946
And I get how having Hershel
taken has you spinning out,
262
00:28:55,951 --> 00:28:58,818
stirring up emotions, memories,
all sorts of shit,
263
00:28:58,823 --> 00:29:01,560
but vengeful thoughts that I
thought you had put to bed,
264
00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:04,389
clearly you have woken the hell up.
265
00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:06,747
But what I don't get
is after all these years,
266
00:29:06,752 --> 00:29:08,088
you still think I'm the bad guy?
267
00:29:08,093 --> 00:29:10,395
I'm not. No one is.
268
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,312
Or you know what, Maggie?
Maybe everyone is.
269
00:29:14,317 --> 00:29:17,184
Ask yourself one question.
270
00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,219
How many husbands and fathers
have you killed?
271
00:29:25,502 --> 00:29:29,240
What you did,
272
00:29:29,245 --> 00:29:33,162
you don't ever put something
like that to bed.
273
00:30:28,347 --> 00:30:30,132
Fuck me.
274
00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:47,889
Where are all the chompers?
275
00:31:02,207 --> 00:31:03,743
In case we get separated.
276
00:31:03,748 --> 00:31:07,953
Hey, when this is over, will you
look after Ginny for me?
277
00:31:08,953 --> 00:31:10,690
- We don't have time for this.
- Hey, wait, wait, wait. Just...
278
00:31:10,694 --> 00:31:14,345
please,
279
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:17,739
look after her for me.
280
00:31:17,744 --> 00:31:20,481
'Cause you're not going back to her.
281
00:31:20,486 --> 00:31:22,575
Let's go!
282
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,403
Ugh!
283
00:32:15,715 --> 00:32:18,017
If you try that again,
284
00:32:18,022 --> 00:32:20,633
you are going to wish
he threw you off that boat.
285
00:32:51,534 --> 00:32:53,079
This way!
286
00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:09,987
Seriously, walkers are
falling from the sky now?
287
00:33:11,658 --> 00:33:13,786
They must have heard us. We have to...
288
00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:39,930
The scaffolding.
289
00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:22,220
Get your shit together, dickhead.
290
00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:23,599
Maggie, stop.
291
00:35:29,126 --> 00:35:31,128
It's a trap.
292
00:36:17,957 --> 00:36:19,998
What the hell is that?
293
00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:28,854
Nope!
294
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,439
Pearlie! Gritz! It's me, it's Jano!
295
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:52,748
Over here.
296
00:38:09,895 --> 00:38:11,593
We got to find a way out of here.
297
00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:14,900
You're with me, kid.
298
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:49,935
Nobody gets out.
299
00:39:38,871 --> 00:39:42,735
Miss? I'm guessing you know this by now,
300
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,029
but I'm a New Babylon marshal.
301
00:39:45,034 --> 00:39:47,297
Get down, don't do that again.
302
00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:52,634
My name is Pearlie Armstrong.
303
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,681
I don't drink. I don't smoke.
304
00:39:56,686 --> 00:39:59,820
I like a good hog stew.
305
00:40:02,268 --> 00:40:05,005
Just want to give you a sense
of what kind of people I am.
306
00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:07,965
I'm not your enemy.
307
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:11,882
I come from New Babylon. Capital city.
308
00:40:11,887 --> 00:40:15,625
It's more of a small town,
tree-lined streets,
309
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:18,584
families looking out for each other.
310
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:21,994
I got a wife and three daughters.
311
00:40:23,942 --> 00:40:27,076
They're my everything.
312
00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:35,993
Now,
313
00:40:35,998 --> 00:40:40,203
I don't know why you with that
man I'm looking for.
314
00:40:40,208 --> 00:40:44,213
Or why you've taken one of
our marshals hostage.
315
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:49,299
But I'm guessing you got your reasons.
316
00:40:49,304 --> 00:40:52,351
Heck, might even be a good one.
317
00:41:03,591 --> 00:41:07,677
I'm open to hearing it.
318
00:41:07,682 --> 00:41:11,076
And I mean that sincerely.
319
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,817
But if I get to you first,
320
00:41:17,822 --> 00:41:20,651
I'm going to be a little less open,
321
00:41:22,871 --> 00:41:26,265
and I will get to you.
322
00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:43,234
Follow me.
323
00:42:05,783 --> 00:42:08,128
Next time I tell you to move, you move.
324
00:43:17,376 --> 00:43:18,808
My son.
325
00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:23,018
I need him to save my son.
326
00:45:10,489 --> 00:45:12,922
Look at you,
327
00:45:12,927 --> 00:45:15,751
acting so tough.
328
00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:18,023
Just like your mother.
329
00:45:19,672 --> 00:45:21,631
Maybe your father.
330
00:45:23,938 --> 00:45:26,718
Tell me,
331
00:45:26,723 --> 00:45:29,852
did you ever meet the man
332
00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:34,062
who killed your father?
333
00:45:36,994 --> 00:45:40,345
He lived among your mother's
people for years.
334
00:45:41,259 --> 00:45:43,784
Negan.
335
00:45:46,351 --> 00:45:49,224
What do you know about him?
336
00:45:52,183 --> 00:45:55,486
You can keep sitting there in
the dark trying to freak me out,
337
00:45:55,491 --> 00:45:58,276
but I'm not saying shit.
338
00:46:05,457 --> 00:46:07,546
Ha.
339
00:46:10,549 --> 00:46:14,554
You know, when I was a boy,
340
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:19,075
I was fascinated by Manhattan.
341
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,729
All those people
342
00:46:21,734 --> 00:46:23,775
on such a tiny island
343
00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:27,387
pushing, shoving.
344
00:46:27,392 --> 00:46:31,597
The irony is that in death,
345
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:35,379
the city is so much more alive
than it ever was.
346
00:46:38,751 --> 00:46:42,956
Because the struggle, it galvanizes you.
347
00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:49,588
Shows you the strength
you had inside all along.
348
00:47:03,472 --> 00:47:07,677
You know, I think you're
going to like it here.
349
00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:17,442
- What?
- He got away.
350
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:41,814
Okay, enough!
351
00:47:42,424 --> 00:47:45,035
You've nowhere to go.
352
00:47:45,906 --> 00:47:49,039
Just tell me what I need to know
about your people.
353
00:47:49,997 --> 00:47:52,429
You can dispense with all this...
354
00:47:52,434 --> 00:47:55,214
hysteria.
355
00:47:55,219 --> 00:47:56,786
They'll be fine.
356
00:48:52,668 --> 00:48:55,492
Twenty stories!
357
00:48:55,497 --> 00:48:58,596
New record, no?
358
00:49:02,156 --> 00:49:05,371
And yet...
359
00:49:12,644 --> 00:49:13,863
Heh.
360
00:49:17,562 --> 00:49:21,300
Negan is here.
361
00:49:21,305 --> 00:49:22,823
Find him.
362
00:49:22,828 --> 00:49:24,390
He has my son.
363
00:49:24,395 --> 00:49:26,958
We get inside the arena and we kill him.
364
00:49:26,963 --> 00:49:28,878
We make one badass team.
365
00:49:30,836 --> 00:49:32,746
It takes a monster to make one.
366
00:49:32,751 --> 00:49:35,401
There is no way they're
getting off this island.
367
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,875
I'm Eli Jorné, E.P.
and showrunner of "Dead City",
368
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,704
and this is your "Episode
Insider: Old Acquaintances".
369
00:49:56,485 --> 00:49:59,047
When we first see Maggie
at the beginning of the episode,
370
00:49:59,052 --> 00:50:01,441
I would say she's pretty messed up.
371
00:50:03,448 --> 00:50:05,228
We learn shortly thereafter
372
00:50:05,233 --> 00:50:07,317
that, uh, that her son has been taken,
373
00:50:07,322 --> 00:50:10,798
so she's not in the best head space.
374
00:50:16,026 --> 00:50:19,981
You know, we see her
just destroying this walker.
375
00:50:22,467 --> 00:50:24,899
We all know it's not exactly
about the walker.
376
00:50:24,904 --> 00:50:27,598
So she's in a rough spot,
but she reels it in.
377
00:50:27,603 --> 00:50:29,904
She holds it together
and getting on her way.
378
00:50:32,608 --> 00:50:35,388
You know, I had a hunch
you were up to something.
379
00:50:45,882 --> 00:50:48,314
And the one person out there
she feels who can help her
380
00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:51,448
is the last person on earth
she wants to see again.
381
00:51:01,245 --> 00:51:03,629
Negan is a wanted man. He's on the run.
382
00:51:03,634 --> 00:51:06,289
He's hiding out, taking care
of this young girl Ginny.
383
00:51:06,294 --> 00:51:08,856
Ginny, this here is Maggie.
384
00:51:08,861 --> 00:51:12,077
See, Maggie and I are...
385
00:51:12,082 --> 00:51:13,644
old acquaintances.
386
00:51:13,649 --> 00:51:16,603
As Negan explains,
her father went out one night,
387
00:51:16,608 --> 00:51:18,214
and when she found him, he was a walker.
388
00:51:18,219 --> 00:51:19,650
And it was so disturbing
389
00:51:19,655 --> 00:51:22,043
that she never uttered
another word after that.
390
00:51:22,048 --> 00:51:23,958
Her... Her inability to speak,
391
00:51:23,963 --> 00:51:25,699
I think, kind of pulls
on his heart strings,
392
00:51:25,704 --> 00:51:28,876
and it makes him want
to help her that much more.
393
00:51:28,881 --> 00:51:31,705
Few weeks back, I got raided.
394
00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:35,915
Right before he took my son,
do you know what he did?
395
00:51:40,850 --> 00:51:43,064
That rings a bell, doesn't it?
396
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:44,631
It did for me.
397
00:51:44,636 --> 00:51:48,635
It's the last thing I heard
before I met you.
398
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Still got a decent setup at Hilltop.
399
00:51:52,165 --> 00:51:56,121
Kids, school.
400
00:51:56,929 --> 00:51:58,882
He'll put up that girl.
401
00:51:58,887 --> 00:52:01,146
Maggie needs something.
He needs something.
402
00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:02,495
And these are two people
403
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:04,619
basically entering
a business partnership.
404
00:52:04,624 --> 00:52:07,535
But of course, they have no idea
what they're getting into.
405
00:52:09,977 --> 00:52:12,070
When Maggie and Negan are on the boat,
406
00:52:12,075 --> 00:52:13,593
and they're approaching Manhattan,
407
00:52:13,598 --> 00:52:15,290
for so long, maybe since the beginning,
408
00:52:15,295 --> 00:52:16,640
I always imagined
that it was going to be
409
00:52:16,644 --> 00:52:18,859
that the fog parts to reveal the city.
410
00:52:18,864 --> 00:52:20,656
We... We needed to hide that reveal
411
00:52:20,661 --> 00:52:22,092
'cause it was just so important.
412
00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:23,864
We'd been teasing the city for so long,
413
00:52:23,869 --> 00:52:26,562
and to me, what's special
about that moment
414
00:52:26,567 --> 00:52:27,998
is not just the city,
415
00:52:28,003 --> 00:52:29,678
but the idea that this is the moment
416
00:52:29,683 --> 00:52:31,089
where Maggie and Negan, you know,
417
00:52:31,094 --> 00:52:32,830
there have been all these things
bubbling up throughout,
418
00:52:32,834 --> 00:52:34,484
you know, all these little
passive aggressive jabs.
419
00:52:34,488 --> 00:52:36,572
And... And finally, it all comes out.
420
00:52:36,577 --> 00:52:38,574
What I don't get is,
after all these years,
421
00:52:38,579 --> 00:52:41,229
you still think I'm the bad guy.
I'm not.
422
00:52:41,234 --> 00:52:44,145
Ask yourself one question.
423
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:47,931
How many husbands and fathers
have you killed?
424
00:52:47,936 --> 00:52:51,152
What you did,
425
00:52:51,157 --> 00:52:53,894
you don't ever put something
like that to bed.
426
00:52:53,899 --> 00:52:56,810
But then the fog parts
and reveals the city,
427
00:52:56,815 --> 00:52:58,855
and it kind of snaps them out of it,
428
00:52:58,860 --> 00:53:02,207
and it's like something so much
bigger is in front of them.
429
00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:09,475
It's a really special moment.
This is not just New York City.
430
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,477
This is not just any city in the world.
431
00:53:11,482 --> 00:53:13,609
This is New York City,
the capital of the world,
432
00:53:13,614 --> 00:53:14,784
with the lights out.
433
00:53:14,789 --> 00:53:16,743
Who knows what's happening there?
434
00:53:20,926 --> 00:53:23,667
So, of course, we have to talk
about the cockroaches.
435
00:53:23,672 --> 00:53:26,970
Every single person who read the
pilot script for the first time,
436
00:53:26,975 --> 00:53:28,755
it was the first thing
they mentioned to me.
437
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,323
They said, "Oh, my God,
the cockroaches".
438
00:53:30,327 --> 00:53:32,933
Lauren Cohan, I think
the first time she saw that,
439
00:53:32,938 --> 00:53:34,239
literally, like, screamed.
440
00:53:34,244 --> 00:53:35,849
Jeffrey insisted
441
00:53:35,854 --> 00:53:38,591
on it being a live cockroach
going into his mouth.
442
00:53:38,596 --> 00:53:40,462
Uh... No, I'm just kidding.
443
00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:41,986
There's actually a scene that got cut,
444
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:43,726
you know, when Negan and Ginny end up
445
00:53:43,731 --> 00:53:46,264
in the back of Maggie's truck,
and Negan looks down
446
00:53:46,269 --> 00:53:48,266
and sees a little cockroach
crawling around,
447
00:53:48,271 --> 00:53:50,429
and we get the sense
he's not a fan of cockroaches.
448
00:53:50,434 --> 00:53:51,652
Nope.
449
00:53:51,657 --> 00:53:54,302
We actually had in that scene
a live cockroach,
450
00:53:54,307 --> 00:53:56,086
and there was even a cockroach handler.
451
00:53:56,091 --> 00:53:58,176
But in the big scene
in New York, that is all VFX,
452
00:53:58,181 --> 00:54:00,462
and I really was blown away
at how good of a job they did.
453
00:54:02,228 --> 00:54:03,964
This episode is really just kind of
454
00:54:03,969 --> 00:54:06,749
like the "Heart of Darkness"
journey into the city.
455
00:54:06,754 --> 00:54:09,709
They're about to go
on an incredible, crazy,
456
00:54:09,714 --> 00:54:11,798
dark, interesting journey.
457
00:54:15,415 --> 00:54:17,238
This way!
458
00:54:21,452 --> 00:54:28,452
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