-[lively pop music playing] -♪ Uh-huh, uh-huh ♪
♪ The future's looking so bright ♪
Welcome to The Ultimatum: Marry Or Move On
Season 4 Reunion.
Now, this season, six ultimatums were given.
One was left unanswered,
and an unprecedented five ended with engagements.
They all came looking to get their answers,
and now it's time for you at home to get yours.
-Has anyone tied the knot? -Had a change of heart?
Well, tonight everyone is back.
All questions will be answered, and nothing is off-limits.
Let's get this reunion started.
♪ Oh, oh, come take look Into my crystal ball ♪
♪ See 'em all dancing in my disco hall ♪
♪ Rose-colored glasses hide my eyes ♪
♪ Hear 'em all say, "Oh, my, my, my" ♪
♪ Oh, my, my, my Hear 'em all say, "Oh, my, my, my" ♪
♪ Oh, my, my, my Oh, my, my, my ♪
♪ Uh-huh, uh-huh The future's looking so bright ♪
♪ Uh-huh, uh-huh They'll all be saying, "Oh my!" ♪
♪ Uh-huh, uh-huh I think this is the right time ♪
♪ Uh-huh, uh-huh Uh-huh, uh-huh, oh my! ♪
♪ Ah, uh-huh, uh-huh, oh my! ♪
Welcome, everybody.
-Have a seat. -Let's all take a seat, yeah.
Everybody looks fantastic, by the way.
-It's so good to see you. -[song fades]
It's been a year since we saw you last, so we have a lot to talk about.
-I think that's an understatement. -[Nick] Big-time.
You guys ready to get into it?
-[Luke] Ready. -[Nick] Let's get into it.
All right, Luke's been putting Monica on a pedestal since they were 14,
and by the end of this thing, he was down on one knee proposing.
-Hi to both of you. -[both] Hello.
-[Nick] Good to see you. -Good to see you too.
First things first. I can see it from here so I just want to confirm.
-You guys are still engaged. -Yes, we are.
-We are still engaged. -Yay.
[Monica] Very, very amazing year together.
He actually re-proposed on our five-year dating anniversary.
And he had rose petals and candles, and it was just a really nice moment.
-The two of us. It was really special. -No cameras, no mic pack.
-No cameras, just him and I. -You didn't miss 14 cameras circling?
[Monica] No, I did not.
-It was really, really special. -[Nick] Good.
What about you all watching the proposal? How did that make you feel?
-Him bringing her flowers was so cute. -[Jebin] Yeah, I thought that too.
I think when Monica was like, "Wait, hold up," I was like, "No way."
-I was like that. -[all laughing]
[Vanessa] Oh!
What's this year of being engaged been like for you guys?
[Luke] It's been great.
We worked on a lot in the show. Um, a lot of growth.
I made a ton, personally.
We chased a lot of success together.
What's coming of it now is I no longer just have a plan A.
I have a plan B and a plan C.
-Good. -[Luke] Not just serving at a restaurant.
I'm managing a restaurant right now.
Um, and then I spent hours of online training
and got a few certifications,
and I'm qualified to apply to be a lineman.
So that took my mind from "I'm gonna see success as a firefighter"
or "I'm gonna fail" to "There's many different ways to succeed."
That came from lessons I learned from her, that we worked on in the show.
-So it's been great. -That's beautiful.
It's been a work-hard, play-hard year, which is really fun.
We both have been grinding a ton,
but we've also traveled together more than we've ever traveled.
So it's been probably our best year yet, in my opinion.
[Vanessa] Yeah.
We'll take a look at how Luke and Monica have been celebrating their engagement
over the past year.
Please enjoy.
-[upbeat pop music playing] -♪ Oh, oh, oh , oh…♪
1,825 days ago, you said yes to being my girlfriend.
I've been thankful every day since.
-[cork pops] -[Monica whoops]
-♪ I know that I can be there someday ♪ -[Monica giggles]
He's not your lovey friend.
-No, what am I? -[girl] You're her ex.
-I'm her ex-boyfriend. -[girl giggles]
[woman] Oh my God!
-Oh my God! You're engaged! Oh my God! -[all laughing]
[lively pop music playing]
♪ It's gonna be a really, really, really Really, really, really, really good day ♪
♪ Pleased to meet you, good to see you ♪
♪ Oh ♪
♪ It's gonna be a really, really, really Really, really, really, really good day ♪
-[song ends] -[Vanessa] Yes! I love it. I love it.
So much fun, so much love.
And in fact, what's going on with the wedding plans?
We celebrated our one-year of engagement in Santa Barbara.
We viewed a bunch of wedding venues there, and we're planning it out there.
-[Vanessa] Close to home. I love it. -[Monica] Mm-hm.
Looking back now on the experience that was The Ultimatum,
how do you think that's affected your relationship?
I think it's the reason we're sitting here today.
Happy to be together, excited for the future.
We broke down the walls
that needed to be broke down for this experience,
and it let us figure out what we needed to figure out.
I've always believed that she's the girl for me.
I've been so excited for her to be my wife for so long,
but I'm now in a place where I'm excited also to be her husband.
And what that means, and everything that comes with it.
I feel like when you're talking, Luke, a lot seems to be coming up emotionally.
-I just kinda wonder-- -I'm excited for the future. It's amazing.
I will say I felt disrespected by a lot of people here.
Is there someone here that you felt disrespected by?
Um…
So, I felt disrespected by David.
I felt that you went too far in your flirting with her
and were disrespectful to me and Casey, to be honest.
You, multiple times, spoke badly about me and to me, and to other people.
And at one point you threatened me,
which at the moment I laughed off because that's how I avoid conflict,
but I'm not laughing today.
Well, I apologize you felt that way, okay? It wasn't my intention.
It was me to protect her. That's why I said, "Don't disrespect her."
Me and Monica, if I disrespected her, she would have let me know.
She's a strong enough woman.
I didn't say anything bad about you at all.
There was just a comment about him not being man enough for me.
I know that there was a lot we needed to work through on our own.
I think it just really hurt him to hear it from you
instead of, like, internally.
-[David] I apologize. -[Luke] Appreciate it.
You're a great man for her and I love what y'all have going on.
-100%. -Appreciate that.
[Casey] He's protective when he's with somebody.
He was with Monica at the time, so he wanted what she wanted for her.
I think that's what he meant when he says, "Not man enough."
I don't-- He does think you're a great person,
you are man enough,
but he does word things a certain way sometimes, but…
Yeah, but don't take no offense by it. I don't mean any bad by it.
-I appreciate it. -I appreciate that too.
Yeah, 100%.
I would just say, man to man, to me, there's nothing more manly
than taking a look inward, recognizing things that you could,
and maybe need to improve on, and addressing those things.
I mean, that's been a result of this entire experience.
-[Luke] 100%. -Mm-hm.
I think Luke found, like, a new level of confidence in himself
that he's brought into our relationship.
And I feel like whenever he has something that bugs him,
or he wants to bring up,
he makes the space for it now in our relationship,
and it makes it easier for me to understand him.
So huge, because nobody's a mind reader, and to have understanding for that is key.
[Nick] Casey, I want to ask you.
You and Luke had a beautiful Trial Marriage, I thought.
To watch the two of you together, you got quite close.
How was it for you watching Monica say yes to Luke?
I was really happy for both of them. That's what he wanted the entire time.
That's what he was there for.
He made it very clear from the beginning,
and I was happy to be able to help assist in that love story.
[Jessica Grace] Casey with the assist. Okay, basketball. I see it.
-[laughs] Yes! -[all laugh]
Luke, you spent a decent amount of time during the Trial Marriage
comparing yourself to David, kinda using that as a reference point.
Clearly, I had insecurities on the show, and I was working on it.
I'm not like that anymore.
That's why she mentioned I have the confidence needed in our relationship.
So…
But then again, to be honest, I was even jealous of seeing her laughing.
Y'all had no bad-- Any fights, no nothing. Y'all just had fun the whole time!
[laughing]
Well, for whatever it's worth, guys, I mean, from the outside looking in,
I thought you really approached this in the perfect possible way.
You invested yourselves in it, and you learned so much from it.
And that's why we're sitting here today, you know?
-Thanks, Nick. -[Nick] A great thing.
I hope you guys feel the love that is in this room for the two of you.
-You look good, are emotionally strong-- -Full James Bond over here, looks like.
-[Vanessa] Wedding tux? You gotta keep it. -That was the goal.
-I wanna look wedding-ready. -[Vanessa] You're wedding-ready.
[laughing]
Well, guys, moving on.
Hayley wanted someone who could speak all five love languages,
and Blake definitely has a way with words.
Yeah, you are sitting on two different sides of the stage.
Which is a huge shift from when we saw you a year ago.
Are you-- Obviously not engaged.
-[Blake] No. -When did you break off the engagement?
Four months after the engagement.
We obviously weren't a good fit.
There was a great lack of respect in our relationship,
and I didn't feel safe in any way, shape, or form in the relationship,
and so I decided to walk away.
-So you ended it. -Yes.
First off, I've not seen Hayley, uh, in eight months.
Going into that proposal, I was 60-40.
You know, I didn't know totally if I was going to propose.
I was trying my best to try to make something work
in my own competitive nature, and saying, "Hey, I can meet all of her needs."
Because as a man, you never, ever, ever wanna say, "I can't do something."
It's like, "I will figure it out."
And in a relationship, there is compromise.
There are certain things that I need to give up for my partner,
but I didn't feel like that was being reciprocated through Hayley.
Like, there was a lot of insecurity, too, that kind of bled over from Ashley,
that we could never get over,
where it was just a constant, "Hey, Blake, you did this for Ashley."
-We could just never get past that. -That's not true.
-I'm not gonna let you say that. -[Blake] Okay.
I have no problem with you-- With having a dialogue here.
Are you okay?
You wanna sit right here with me, with Casey?
[Hayley sniffles]
[Hayley sobbing softly]
-It's okay. -[Nick] Hayley, I know this is tough.
-[Blake] It's not easy. -I love you.
I was not…
[Casey] You got this.
…looking forward to this conversation at all.
-[Hayley sobbing softly] -Oh, Killian came ready.
-Thank you. -Thank you, Killian.
Hayley, what's making you so emotional at this moment?
Is it the details of the breakup?
[sniffles]
-[Hayley] There's just so much. -There's a lot.
Our relationship before the show was already super rocky.
There was just so much that happened,
to the point where I felt so insecure in my relationship, and myself.
[sniffles] Coming into the show, I was like,
"I don't even know how I'm supposed to speed date these guys."
But I always let you know, like, I was super attracted to you and into you…
That's not true.
…and you'd tell me, "Blake, you're not my typical type."
-That's so not true. -[Blake] That is true.
I think it was an emotional connection she needed.
[Blake] Right. Yeah. I agree, but, I mean,
I think it was obvious in the show that, like, I was walking on eggshells.
I mean, if you watch my words, I am literally therapy-talking and, like,
prefacing everything that I'm saying.
"Hey, I don't wanna be defensive right now."
And, like, literally, I didn't even know how to operate as, like, a human being.
[Hayley] I just think you're trying so hard to save face right now.
You just don't take accountability.
[Blake] I get that this is a very emotional conversation,
and I don't want to do the he-said, she-said.
Okay, well, when I'm talking, notice how you literally take it over.
No, I'll be quiet. You go ahead. Like…
[scoffs]
[Nick] So take us to after the show.
So you guys decided to stay together.
You decided to propose, and then what happened after the fact?
Yeah. Um--
If I have to kind of unpack what happened,
we went to Charleston, and there was a situation that happened
where we were out and about,
and we had probably like six or seven girls that we met up with.
We were having fun little time in a group.
We did not meet up with anybody.
I went to the bar, and Hayley was literally right outside.
I had two girls come up to me, and they started talking.
"Hey, what's up? How are you doing?" I said, "Nothing much. On vacation."
They said, "Hey, will you get us a drink?" I said, "Sure."
Bought them both a drink, handed it to them, turned around,
Hayley's there, and, like, her face is just, like, in awe.
Like, "God, did you really just do that?"
Hayley, like, had a beer in her hand.
Poured it on top of my head in the middle of the bar of 300 people.
At that point, I was like, "Yo, what is going on?"
And she goes, "You're a piece of shit."
At that point, I was like, "I'm done. I'm not doing this shit anymore."
No, that's not what happened.
We went to Charleston for our anniversary trip.
We didn't show up with any other people. It was just us two.
We had been going to couples therapy because Blake had a certain issue,
and I worked myself up to drink with him in Charleston.
It was too much for Blake.
[sniffles] And I went to the bathroom.
I come out, and Blake's taking shots with girls.
After that, I was like, "Hey, let's go."
And Blake was blackout drunk, by the way. I wasn't drunk at this point.
I look up, and he's nowhere to be found.
And I walk past this parking garage, and he zooms down in his truck.
And so I ran after the truck,
and I was like, "Get the fuck out of the car."
[sobbing] And then I drove us home.
And that's just a small piece of a lot in our relationship.
[Blake] Let's talk about the full context.
And I feel like context is gonna matter here, so…
-100%. -[Blake] Yeah, that night…
-I did pour a beer on your head. -[Blake] Yeah.
-That night, you have to laugh about it-- -And you put your hands on me that night.
[Blake] No, I did not.
Never did anything to that, and I've got literally…
That-- That never happened, no.
I'm going back to my place.
-She just clocked me through the window. -[sobs] No, I didn't.
[Blake] I had to get out of the car.
I did have to swan dive her hands.
And that wasn't the first time either. Like, let's just be real here.
Like-- And, Hayley, there's multiple people that know that.
[Hayley sobbing and sniffling] I just feel so, like, misheard right now.
And I have… I have proof, literally.
Recordings, text messages, everything,
that contradict exactly what you're saying.
-And-- I love you so much, but like-- -Stop.
Stop. You and I are not together.
-I don't love you. -I still have a love--
-I don't. -[Blake] You don't have to. That's okay.
If I may, like, we've got, you know-- I've got proof right here.
Two signed affidavits from Hayley saying that none of that ever happened.
That you asked me to sign for you.
[Blake] I have text messages from you saying that nothing ever happened.
I'm curious about the affidavit. Because that's a legally binding document.
Yes.
Hayley, are you suggesting that you were coerced or forced into signing it?
He asked her. I read the text. He asked her to sign the affidavit.
If she could do him "this great pleasure" to sign this affidavit for him.
Yeah, but, Casey,
did you read the top portion of that, where she was saying,
"Nothing happened…" "You don't deserve this"?
Blake, respectfully, we weren't involved in your relationship at all.
We were helping her.
If it was reversed, and you were in a really unfortunate situation,
we probably would have helped you.
She read everything, right?
All we wanted to do was make sure she was okay.
Yeah.
[Jebin] I feel like one thing is, like, Blake is, like, this whole time,
he's walking on eggshells, he's trying to be careful--
-That's what you saw. -[Ashley] You were not there.
I'm not saying anything against you, I'm just saying, you weren't there.
Sure, but to think that he just goes home and he's just putting his hands on her…
Look at him. He's pulling out answers for everything.
And she's just saying it's not true.
You think he's the only one that has receipts?
-[Jebin] But where are the receipts? -[Casey] There's texts.
[Blake] Yeah, we can look at the mean texts.
I'm just gonna be frank here.
That text is like JV football.
Like, we can literally play…
We can bring out varsity with, like, the swingin' and, like,
I'm getting cussed out behind the scenes.
We can do whatever we wanna do.
But going back and forth is just gonna bury each other.
It's not even worth it.
Let bygones be bygones, you know?
[Hayley sobs softly]
[sniffles]
[Nick] We have two totally different versions of the same story.
When you're in a toxic relationship, things go sideways.
I think it's pretty clear you aren't meant for each other.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
I can't tell you enough to take so much of what you've learned from this,
and don't go backwards, go forward.
Well, let's take it back to the show for just a second,
'cause, Blake, we saw on camera,
you learned quite a bit from an A.I. chatbot.
[cast laughs]
And we've all learned quite a bit through your love of an old-fashioned metaphor.
Let's take a look.
[Blake] Let's have some fun.
-Let's see if this bad boy can roll. -Oh, shit!
-[laughing] -[upbeat music playing]
I really do feel like we're two gears that are spinning in the same direction.
It's just about two imperfect people pursuing, you know…
-[music distorts, fades] -Or two perfect--
Two imperfect people running hand-in-hand, parallel together.
I think Blake's in the wrong profession. He shouldn't be selling RVs.
He should be a lawyer.
I've got blue hearing aids, and she's got pink hearing aids.
And she's gotta understand my needs of wanting to just be heard.
He can maneuver his way through any slippery slope.
-This is not what I expected. -Yeah.
Blake's a tough cookie to crack. He's very descriptive.
What this symbolizes to me is a diamond that is…
[quirky, pensive music playing]
…eternal in its essence, and is forged under pressure.
He loves to say big words that no one has any idea of what they mean.
I'm not even sure if Blake knows what they mean.
She checks the box of, like, someone that I can be with.
Oh my God, his boxes.
I think you're gorgeous. I think that you kinda check that box.
You and your checkbox.
-I'm a visual person… -How many boxes you got, bro?
-Whenever I talk, I'm seeing a picture. -A checkbox.
-[Vanessa] Wow. -[Nick] Wow.
-[Blake] That was funny, Killian. [laughs] -[Nick] Life is a journey.
-Life is a journey? -And love. Love's a journey.
-Love is a battlefield. -[laughs] Both. Clearly.
-[Vanessa] Yeah. -[Nick] We're seeing that tonight.
Hayley, before we move on, I wanna give you the opportunity
to bring everyone up to speed on where you're at.
Have you been seeing anyone since you and Blake broke things off?
I'm not seeing anyone currently.
I've just been traveling, working on myself.
Blake, are you seeing anyone at the moment?
No, I am single, working on my business, and just focusing on myself.
[Nick] Now we're gonna check in on our next couple.
She wanted him to take the greatest leap of faith,
and so he jumped off the top of a skyscraper…
Uh-huh.
…to prove his love.
-Hey, Ashley, Killian. -That's right. Welcome, you guys.
Thanks for having us.
[Vanessa] The last time we saw you guys, Killian was down on one knee,
but I can see that you're not wearing your engagement ring today.
-No. [laughs] -So, what happened?
Um, we broke it off about two months-ish after, but, I mean…
He went right back to his ways the first week.
He was going through my phone,
saying me and Blake were texting too much during our Trial Marriage.
Sorry I sent you some TikToks, like, God forbid.
But that was so wrong.
He went into treating me badly again,
lying.
-It just escalated. -[Killian] Well, let's go back.
I mean, you're saying I was mad about you and Blake sending TikToks.
Imagine if me and Hayley were doing that.
Part of the reason we weren't getting along
is that I would be holding six to eight grocery bags,
trying to hold the door open like this, with my foot, while holding groceries,
and the door would slip, and she'd go, "I bet you'd hold the door for Hayley."
[cast members laughing]
Is this the stories that you're telling?
-You said-- -The problem is you.
-You're going straight to me. -How you treat me. That's not the problem.
The problem is you went right back to your ways.
-I'm always the problem. -You treated me like shit.
Everyone here knows it.
-I have. Yes, I have. I've admitted that. -Everyone.
-I apologize again. -[Ashley] I had grace.
-I gave you chance after chance. -[Killian] And I…
I even stood up for you and looked like an idiot.
And it continued to escalate, and I was like, "I can't do this anymore."
My parents had to come down because he was throwing my phone, breaking it.
-Why did that happen? -I hid in a closet.
My parents had to fly down.
-And you put your hands on me. -Because I texted them.
-I had to call the police to find you. -You did not! Call my dad right now.
[Killian] I had to find you.
They flew their ass there because you broke my phone.
I couldn't contact anybody.
Ran down to valet, and said, "I need someone to come get me."
-You treated me like absolute shit. -How did we get to the broken phone?
You get drunk.
-You deny it. -Right, it's my fault. 'Cause I drink.
-You get drunk every time you drink. -[Killian] It's not about--
It's not. It's every time you trigger me.
You never really sat there and poured into me.
Like, "How are you feeling?"
Other than the basics.
-The safe boundary goes away. -I didn't help with this alcohol problem?
You're saying I didn't-- I'm asking. I'm clarifying.
-I'm not trying to attack you. -We're not talking about the alcohol.
I'm talking about in life.
[Nick] Let me take you back to that night
where you guys made the decision to propose and to accept.
Was there a part of you in that moment that felt it was maybe the wrong decision?
I wouldn't say I thought it was the wrong decision.
Did I think those things would happen again?
Yes, most likely. And my point is, I truly apologize to you.
Like, I have put you through shit.
Genuinely. And I apologize for that.
Still, up until two months ago, you were rage-texting me.
And I apologize for putting you through shit.
But again,
you will not take one piece of accountability for anything.
-You're saying I didn't "pour into you." -[Killian] You haven't said sorry once.
I poured into you so much that I ended up losing myself over it.
[Ashley] Why stay with me for five years if I didn't pour a single thing into you?
Because it's so hard for me to think about,
"This is gonna fail. Let go."
There's been multiple-- Like, wow. So many times where I could have left.
When the thing with your dad happened,
I could've left and said, "I'm not gonna deal with this."
-He was right. [laughs ruefully] -[chuckles]
There is no denying you guys loved each other.
There's no denying that you even tried. That's why you were on The Ultimatum.
Can I ask you who called off the engagement?
I did. Dodged a bullet. [sniffles]
I mean, like, leaving him was the best thing I could do for myself.
And it saved me, genuinely.
I think he's a great person, but we were not great together.
Ashley, are you seeing anybody now?
No. I'm living my best life. I'm good. [laughs]
[Nick] Killian, how about you?
-You seeing anybody? Done dating? -No.
When Ash and I ended things, I kind of came to this conclusion
that I don't think it would be fair to even put someone in that position.
Yeah, you guys have to finish and button up this chapter.
And you need to be in the best mental and emotional state.
[Nick] Well, guys, let's talk about your Trial Marriages a little bit.
Killian, Ashley, Blake, and Hayley. That was our fearsome foursome.
We're gonna talk about the early morning four-way, five-hour conversation.
What was it like for you guys watching this back
and watching the clock go, like, 5:00 a.m., 6:00 a.m., 7:00 a.m.?
-[Ashley] It felt that long. -[Blake] For sure.
-[Vanessa] It was five hours. -We watched the sun come up.
Were you texting?
How were you guys communicating
within this apartment complex you were all living in?
-Letters. -Letters?
-Old school letters. -We love a note.
-Oh, hey, Jebin, what's up? -You know me, that's my specialty.
[cast members laugh]
[Vanessa] So, letters?
There was no boundaries. We were all texting.
We were all doing a telephone game, and it got out of hand.
[Vanessa] Which was taking away from the experience,
and then derailed, and then became this cluster.
-Literally. -[Blake] Yes.
-It was. -The only way to describe it.
So, was it jealousy-driven? Was it fear-based?
I think it was jealousy-driven, insecurities.
The overlapping of hearing different stories from others.
I felt I was mediating their relationship
and being kind of like a therapist, in a sense.
Like, giving Killian advice.
Like, "Hey, you should apologize to her for X, Y, and Z."
Or, "Do you see how Ashley maybe could've been right?"
In the sense, like, being in their relationship.
And then, it made me spiral whenever I was reading all their messages.
Me and Hayley both kept saying, "We feel we were being puppeteered."
We kept saying that for a reason.
Like, we just felt like it was round and round and round.
And the most-used word in our four little quad squad was "manipulation."
-[Vanessa] Yeah. -[Nick] I can only imagine.
It's not easy to be in a Trial Marriage,
and wonder what your other half is doing, et cetera.
But there's a reason you're encouraged to refer to them as your ex.
-Because that's what they have to be. -Yeah.
That's the way the experiment is designed.
I don't think it's a random coincidence
that the four people sitting up here who respected those boundaries
had a much different experience than you all did.
Yeah, I'm really grateful that we really dove into the experience,
because it really took us out of our heads,
and kind of into the reality
of what we actually needed to work on in our relationship.
Yeah, and I'd add on,
what was talked about between the four of you a lot was insecurities.
And I struggled with that coming into this.
I had an insecurity about this woman that I love,
and so I sent her off to the rest of you guys to date
and go through a Trial Marriage to confirm that, "Okay, she does like me."
"I'm just insecure. She still chooses me at the end of this."
That's kinda the whole point of this.
I think without letting that X factor go, it just kind of solidified that,
while you guys love each other,
the four of you are not meant to be together.
Not only with your spouse, but with your trial spouse.
Yeah, but…
-What were you gonna say, Killian? -Literally, the four of you.
-No, I don't wanna start shit. -[Vanessa] Okay.
Killian, now I wanna get to these text messages from your friends.
I believe we have a reminder here on tape. Let's take a look.
Killian is not gonna join us today.
We just got in an argument.
-Okay. Mm-hm. -On the way here, in the car, he's like…
[mimics phone keys clicking]
On his phone. His friends were literally texting about me.
"Oh yeah, we're gonna bang her and…"
-They are going to? -Yes.
"We're gonna change the show's history." I literally took a picture of it.
-What a dirtbag. What did he say back? -[dramatic music playing]
"Killian went from big boob babe to a flat brunette L. Ha-ha-ha-ha."
-"L," as in loser? -Yes.
"Who won't even put out. Fucked up."
He was typing, "It is kind of fucked up."
And then he said, "We're gonna bang her and change the show's history."
"Anal Ultimatum cast member."
Killian said, "Ha-ha-ha, that was fucking wild."
[music fades]
[Nick] So, Killian, clearly this was a big moment
in your Trial Marriage with Hayley.
Why didn't you defend Hayley in that moment to your friend?
I don't know. I just didn't take it as deeply as I should have.
Like, when I said, "That's wild," that's more like, "Okay, that's a lot."
You know? It's not an excuse, and it should have been stopped.
That would've been the respectful thing to do.
I think you should have spoke-- It doesn't matter who it's about.
I don't think it's appropriate to talk about a person like that.
It just would've been a good opportunity for you
to tell your friend that that wasn't appropriate.
Don't surround yourself with people that talk about women that way.
-I understand. -[JG] You know?
-It's hard to defend, Killian. -I was saying--
I'm not saying anyone needs to defend anything, though.
I am completely taking accountability that I fucked a lot of Hayley's shit.
And I'll be honest, everyone's shit.
Well, I know there's a lot to unpack,
but for the purpose of this moment with the fearsome foursome,
I hope you find some closure in this. We really do truly wish you the best.
We just hope that you learned from this.
-Yeah. -Would you do it again?
-I would. -[Killian] Hell, no.
-[Vanessa] You would? -Yeah.
-[Vanessa] Killian? -No.
-Ashley, would you do it again? -Maybe something else.
I don't know. Not this.
She said "Something else," trying to get on Perfect Match.
-[laughs] -No, I'm kidding! [laughs]
-Let's go. -[cast laughing]
All right, we all know Casey can fly a helicopter,
but the thing she truly wanted to land was a proposal from David.
Ba-dum-bum.
[Nick] And after three promise rings, he finally came through.
Got them on.
Casey and David.
-Yep. -[Nick] How are we feeling?
-Feeling great. Yeah. -Good!
[Vanessa] I'm blinded by the ring.
-It is blinding. -We're engaged.
-[Vanessa] So beautiful! -[Casey] It is.
[David] We went back, celebrated with family.
-Took a trip to Cabo. -[Casey] Yeah, it's amazing.
-[David] Just enjoyed it. -Holy smokes!
-[Nick] David done good. -[Vanessa] Pro basketball player money.
-Good job. -Big diamond energy.
-He did a good job. -Oh, B.D.E. ring.
-Yeah, that is B.D.E. right there. -She deserves it.
Thanks.
[David] We've just been living life and just really celebrating each other.
I would say, like, the main thing we got out of the show was,
we learned how to fight with each other or argue with each other.
Effectively.
How we argued was just really unproductive.
-[Vanessa] Interesting. -[David] The most important thing.
I'm really happy for you guys.
I… You know, Casey, you and I had that conversation at the girls' night.
I remember going back to David that night
and having so many great things to say about your progress with Luke.
-She did the same. -Yeah.
Luke told me afterwards
that you came back from that and had great things to say.
I left that conversation feeling really excited
about the work that you guys were doing.
Honestly, that conversation is because there was a time
where Monica wanted more physical touch from David.
And so I actually had to ask to speak with Monica separately.
And that conversation was really productive.
You know, if it was something past hugging or what she needed,
then those are just boundaries that I would have been there to mention,
"Hey, it's not fair to push his comfort, you know, with physical especially."
I mean, imagine if a guy wanted you to be more touchy-feely
when you were uncomfortable with it.
But she did explain to me, in that moment, that what she wanted was more hugs.
I even told her, "If that's what you want, if it's not pushing his boundaries,
then ask him for that."
Mm-hm. Yeah.
I'm curious what your families thought, because after three promise rings,
and then you're going on this show,
how did they receive the news when you told them that you were engaged?
We actually went to our hometowns when we got back.
We went to see my family, and they were really excited for us.
They were super happy for us.
My dad, of course, jokes that, "Okay. Thank goodness, finally."
-"That's what wanna I see." -[David] Yeah.
He had been very patiently waiting for me.
'Cause he knew where I stood since the beginning.
And then we got to go down to where David's from
and be with his family.
-It was just a really-- -Yeah, they loved it. My mom's like, "Ah!"
My sister, all them love her to death.
-My dad-- -His mom-- Sorry to cut you off, babe.
-Go ahead. -His mom, um… You can explain the…
Yeah, so, my mom, she looked at me, made me tear up.
She was like, "You know what? You made me believe in love again."
-That's awesome. -She's a hopeless romantic.
Being divorced over and over again, just always believed in love.
For a second, she just stopped.
When we came back, she was like, "Y'all made me believe in love."
Isn't it crazy you didn't want to repeat a pattern you saw your mom go through…
A hundred percent.
…but meanwhile, you healed yourself, broke the cycle, and are now healing her?
-100%. -[Nick] Writing a new chapter.
-[Vanessa] A beautiful circle. Wow. -That was big too.
Black sheep turning into the GOAT.
-You'll put that on a shirt! -Black sheep turning into the GOAT!
-[laughs] -It was pretty, you know…
-Full-circle moment. -It was.
But we wonder what your mom would think
about the future baby name Clitoris or Cli-tor-is.
-I know. -Clitoris.
-This is a "cement" or "ce-ment" moment. -[David] Roman, "Clitoris!"
Can you imagine? "Clitoris" is such a pretty name
if it didn't mean what it was.
Okay, let's see.
-"Oh, hey, girl. What's up, Clitoris?" -[cast laughing]
Well, as someone who had a name that rhymes with… my whole life,
I can tell you how traumatic that was for me.
-I can only imagine being named Clitoris. -Nick Lachey is not Dick Lachey.
[all laughing]
Sometimes.
-Hey! -[Jebin] Oh!
Guys, now on to a couple whose journey in this experiment was brief,
but they both definitely made a big impression on everyone
during their time here.
-Welcome back, Alex and Jebin. What's up? -[Vanessa] Hi!
-How's it going? -Hi.
What's up, boy?
Alex, you wanna fill us in? I see that you got some bangs.
-Yes, I did. -[Vanessa laughs]
When you guys left that night, it was high, high emotions.
And you left separately. What happened that evening?
It was really intense.
Right before that, I was like, "Okay, this is gonna go amazing."
Like, "I literally am so in love with this man."
"I'm going to marry him."
And then just hearing, like, the girls, even some of the guys, and you guys,
it was just like in this, like, whirlwind of just emotions and--
Just really confused.
It was, yeah, a mess.
To second-guess yourself is not something that's easy.
You guys had been together for six years, up to that point, correct?
[Alex and Jebin] Yeah.
And now, to your point,
other women, other men, even us at that point, were like,
-"Alex, what are you doing?" -Uh-huh.
[Vanessa] So after that, did you guys get back together?
Yeah, I mean, we were good, like, coming off of the show.
-So you did stay together? -[Jebin] Yeah. So--
Yeah, we did.
I've been where he was.
Where-- Just, like, the overreacting and, like, super emotional.
I was like, "You should not have talked to me that way."
We had a discussion, and he apologized, like, that night.
And he just, like, let me know, like, how much he does, like, love me.
That's the reason why he, like, rashed out.
Do you regret at all writing the note? Or…
Like, I regret it because of how, like, harsh I was on the note,
but the reason I don't regret it is because of, like, how it played out.
Me getting kicked off,
I think that was the right thing to happen.
There was actually a second note that I wrote.
And honestly, that note was worse.
-Oh, jeez. -[cast members laugh]
-[Jebin] Obviously, I shouldn't have. -Like, why are…
-What? -[Jebin] I shouldn't have said that.
We tried to move forward from that point, tried to work through our problems.
Then I knew that I was gonna move to Puerto Rico.
-What is he talking about? -I don't know.
Are you guys together now?
-[in unison] No. -No?
-Have you guys remained friends? -Yeah.
-Mm-hm. Yeah. -Yeah. We're on good terms. We're friends.
-[Vanessa] But you're not dating. -Not dating.
-No. For sure. Yeah. -No.
I'm so grateful that we had this experience,
for me to realize there's still so much growing
that we need to do, like, within ourselves.
I thought, if we had gone through the whole thing, I was gonna get married.
There was no doubt in my mind, but then, like,
the person I was a year ago is not the person I am today.
And I know, like, I don't think I wanna get married until I'm like 35.
-I'm a long way away… -[Vanessa] How old are you right now?
-Twenty-four. -[cast members laughing]
Well, it sounds like The Ultimatum probably wasn't the right show for you.
Yeah, for sure.
After watching it back,
I would've been texting, shown up at the door.
-Banging on the door. -He would've pounded on the fucking door.
-[Jebin] Yeah, so… -[Alex] Like…
I've gotten kicked out of a lot of things, but I'm glad I got kicked off this show.
Seriously. Thank you, guys, really.
Sitting here, I think we can all tell that you have a different perspective.
-We're proud of you. -Thank you.
-Easily the best laugh this entire season. -[Jebin] Oh my gosh.
I was getting annoyed at the laugh. I'm watching, and I'm like, "Yo, shut up."
[laughs]
Hey, yeah, that was… [laughs]
Well, we certainly wish you guys nothing but the best going forward, so…
-[Vanessa] In Puerto Rico. -If you guys wanna visit, swing some golf.
Can you imagine you go to see Jebin?
[all laughing]
-We'd make it through about three holes. -Maybe I'll write you a note too, Nick.
-Maybe I'll write you a note, Jebin. -[all laughing]
All right, guys.
Switching gears to the other couple who left the experience early,
but for the complete opposite reason.
They got engaged.
What's up, Jessica Grace, Edris.
Let's remind ourselves of how dramatic that proposal actually was.
Let's take a look.
[tense music playing]
[Jebin grunts]
-[David] Uh-oh. -[music turns dramatic]
[gasps] Oh.
-Oh my gosh. -[Blake] Shut up.
-[Casey] Oh my gosh. Stop. -[David] Dog.
-Come on. -[Casey gasps]
[Jessica Grace laughs]
-Will you marry me? -[music fades]
[suspenseful music playing]
Yes, of course I will.
-[uplifting music playing] -♪ Oh… ♪
Yay!
-That was so good. -[Monica] Oh!
♪ Oh, oh, oh! ♪
♪ Always be ♪
[music turns tender]
Congratulations.
-[Edris whispers indistinctly] -This is some crazy stuff.
[Edris chuckles]
[Edris] All right. I got you.
-I know you got me. I got you too. -[Edris] Mm-hm.
I love you.
I love you too.
[tender music swells]
-♪ No matter where we go ♪ -[Vanessa whoops]
♪ Nothing's impossible ♪
-[Killian] Yikes. -♪ Only heaven knows ♪
Oh, okay.
-So a new piece of hardware. -[Nick] Like that look!
[Jessica Grace] That's wild.
-♪ In the melody ♪ -[laughs] Shout out to your boy.
-♪ When it's you and me ♪ -[song fades]
The kiss at the end and the walkaway--
-Oh. Oh my God! -[all laughing]
-[Nick] By the way… -[Vanessa] Sit down!
[Nick] One of the greatest fake-outs ever.
[Vanessa] Yeah.
[Nick] That was classic.
But we are noticing that you guys are sitting not next to each other.
So, Jessica Grace,
what is your relationship status with Edris today?
There is none.
Edris was very conflicted about the proposal.
As soon as the cameras were off, he didn't touch me.
He didn't kiss me. We didn't speak until the next day.
I felt like that should have been a moment of celebration.
We could have started to make each other feel very chosen.
And… it wasn't that.
My heart was in the right place. Uh, I love Jessica.
I was gonna get married, like 100%. Like, I was gonna get married.
You know? That was my main goal.
I just felt like, um… I just felt angry.
Like, so fucking angry.
Like, it had nothing to do against Jessica at the time.
The way I saw the situation was that I was gonna pick Alex.
And then, like, that was revoked.
You know, Alex was gone.
And in my mind, I'm thinking, like, "There's no more of the experience."
Right? "We're done."
My only options in this last second are to, like,
reject the girl that I love, that I came on this TV show for,
or get married with her, right?
And so that's why-- But it was-- It felt so fucking forced.
There's a clip even of me, um, acknowledging the fact
that we still obviously had things to work through.
And because we didn't go through the experience with the rest of you guys,
we didn't get a chance to address any of that.
So, um, we got into couples counseling pretty quickly.
It felt productive at some points.
But I shouldn't be standing in our kitchen and hear,
after all of the shit that you've given me
about being too friendly with the opposite sex in the gym,
that you have allowed yourself in an hour span of dating people
to develop a sexual attraction to a girl that I'm now friends with,
and then accuse me
of only developing this friendship with her
to keep you from doing that.
I should not have to hear that from my fiancé
when we're trying to work through shit.
Was there something going on between Alex and Edris?
No, and he's got the text messages to prove it.
-Edris is… [laughs ruefully] -Wait, no…?
Well, on the show, Edris said he would have picked Alex.
-So clearly there was some attraction. -Yeah, no.
There was a message that I got from Edris
at a point when they were trying to fix their relationship.
And I was literally talking to JG, literally, every single day.
So we had been officially "broken up" by this point.
-Okay. -[JG] Okay?
He broke up with me the day before our anniversary, by the way.
I moved out July 4th, and we're still working on things.
We're still being intimate. We're still hanging out.
I'm still cooking you traditional Afghan meals
that I've never had before.
We're still traveling together.
Alex, because we are friends at this point,
like, calls me immediately when Edris sent her this message.
She let me know that Edris hit on her.
Yeah, I hit on her.
-[Blake laughs] -[Jebin] He's honest.
I also shouldn't have to hear your homeboy on speakerphone,
not asking about what you're gonna do about me,
but what you're gonna do about Alex.
-The disrespect. -[Nick] Alex, I wanna hear from you.
Because we've established that there was some attempt to…
connect with you,
but you guys don't even live in the same place, do you?
No. I was just in shock.
Honestly, I thought it was, like, just to rile her up.
He knew that I was, like, talking to her every day.
-So, I just found it, like, insane. -What did he reach out and say? What was--
Oh, it was just like, "How about we start a Trial Marriage?"
Or, like, "Let's try this out."
Don't think I did anything inappropriate. Alex sent me a text.
She's like, "How dare you do that? 'Cause I'm friends with Jessica now."
And then pretty much what I said was like,
"I respect your boundary, that you're friends with Jessica now."
"And you won't do anything, and that's cool."
"But, like, you know… I'm a single person."
Here's the thing. If you're single, stay single.
Don't come travel with me. Don't do that.
If you want Alex, that's great. That's fine. She's beautiful.
Hell, I want Alex half the time. She's a bad bitch, okay?
But don't sit here and piss on me and tell me it's not raining.
Or whatever the turn of phrase is.
Like, don't put me through literal hell, have me performing humiliation rituals.
Have me being obedient to you, fucking punishing me.
Wait, I'm sorry. You just opened a box.
And we're gonna keep it closed, 'cause I'm not getting into that.
He knows what it is.
And it's fucking disgusting.
We weren't working out.
Regardless of the things that went down towards the end of the relationship,
we were done.
I broke up with you.
Then why are you having me in your…? Okay.
[Jebin] I broke up with you, and I told you to leave my house.
It's my fault too. I agree.
I agree that the last time I broke up with you, guess what we did?
We fucked.
[cast members laughing]
-[Hayley] Oh my gosh. -[JG] Watch your mouth.
-We did. And you know we did. -[JG] I know we did!
And you left that day, and I called.
I texted you over the phone after we had broken up, after we fucked.
-And I said, "I regretted fucking you." -[groans] Oh…
-[JG] You did not say that. -[Edris] It should not happen. I did.
After I busted, dude. Literally, I just--
-[JG] Watch your fucking mouth! -[Edris] I just fucking orgasmed, dude.
Watch your mouth!
-Do not cross the line! -I apologize. Sorry.
Oh, an apology! First time for everything!
Watch your mouth!
Because I am done with you disrespecting me.
You know, guys, I think the very premise of The Ultimatum, the reason it exists,
is because someone in the relationship is not getting what they need.
And I think… very clearly,
you're desiring something different from what Edris is desiring,
and it just did not work out.
[Vanessa] I think you've gone through a lot.
Take everything you've learned from this and go with it.
And know you're gonna be better off on the other side.
[Nick] We obviously wish you guys the best moving forward.
Whatever capacity.
All right, well, everyone enters The Ultimatum
looking for big answers about their relationships.
But this group truly believed the truth is out there.
-Way out there. Take a look. -Way out there.
I don't believe the sun gives you cancer and stuff.
[quirky music playing]
-I really don't. -That's like a fact. Like…
I don't know if it is.
-I believe we didn't go to the moon. -Yeah.
That's the biggest conspiracy theory that I believe truly.
You think we've never been to the moon?
-No, absolutely not. -I don't think so.
-[Luke] David, stop. -Definitely not.
There's no way that's fake.
-Do you believe in dinosaurs? Uh-oh. -Uh…
-Wait, believe in dinosaurs? -Yeah, do you believe in dinosaurs?
-It's a thing. Some don't believe in them. -Dinosaurs, a thing you don't believe in?
What? Yes, dinosaurs are real.
There's six really good movies about it.
-You should watch them. -[laughing]
-Sorry! -Not as big and massive as they claim.
There's a YouTube video. I'll show you it.
Explain the pyramids, then.
The way the pyramids are set up is like similar to a computer chip.
-They got secrets. -For real.
There's, like, a whole city underneath these pyramids.
But at the same time, I saw this on Instagram,
so it's limited, what you're taking in, but it makes you think, you know?
-[Alex] Do you believe in aliens? -There's gotta be something out there.
Yeah, I think I agree too.
I did see a UFO when I was like 4 years old.
-[Monica] Really? -Yes.
-I saw something… zoom right over me. -It's true!
It was close, it was low too.
Like… [whooshes]
-And it wasn't, like, an airplane? -No.
-Since then, I've been a believer. -[music stops]
I mean, I definitely think that there's other life out there somewhere.
But I don't really think there's gonna be aliens
that are gonna come and invade our planet.
She didn't mean that.
-She didn't mean that. -[all laughing]
Oh, that's hilarious. Okay, well, that was a little out there.
It was entertaining to say the least, but one thing that is very real
are our engaged couples,
and specifically David and Casey, are getting married.
-What's the deal? What's the plan? -[Casey] Mm!
-We are getting married in September. -Yes.
-Along the Amalfi Coast in Ravello. -[Casey] In Italy.
-[Nick] Beautiful. -[David] So we're excited.
We actually have a clip to share with everyone.
Take a look.
[lively, upbeat music playing]
All right, on our flight, ready to board.
-We are ready. [chuckles] -Oh.
I hate how I look.
[Casey and David laugh]
♪ I feel so good, can't get no better♪
First train ride, heading to Rome.
[music ends]
-♪ Italiano ♪ -[dramatic pop music playing]
-[Casey] Late night pizza. -Late night pizza. Let's go eat the pizza!
-[upbeat pop music playing] -♪I want you ♪
So this is where our, uh, reception party's gonna be.
-Right there. -[David] Mm-hm.
-Oh! -The infinity pool is gonna be beautiful.
-♪ I want you ♪ -[Casey] Ooh.
-♪ Who cares what's coming next? ♪ -[Casey laughs]
-I wish I was dancing. -[Casey and David laugh]
-♪ I want you ♪ -[Casey] Mm!
-♪ I want, I want you ♪ -[music fades]
[Vanessa whoops]
Well done, guys.
Hayley is invited, and we got you guys an invitation as well.
-Oh, we're invited? -To the wedding!
-[Nick] I love the Amalfi Coast. -We'd love you to sing "I Do."
-Oh my gosh! You guys! -Yeah! I'll do a little serenade.
"Mr. and Mrs. Nick Lachey." Can I open it?
-[David] Yes, go ahead. -[Vanessa] This is so beautiful-- [gasps]
-That's our hotel, our venue. -I'm such a sucker for it.
-Oh my gosh. -Wow.
[Vanessa] This is amazing.
-Thank you. We're very happy for you. -Yeah, of course.
But getting married overseas,
you have to get married legally here in the States.
And, um, we actually got our certificate yesterday,
and we heard you are ordained.
So we were hoping that, Nick, you would marry us today.
-[chuckles] -I would be absolutely honored.
Did you guys know I'm ordained in the state of California?
-No way! -[Ashley] Oh my gosh!
[Nick] It's my first wedding!
[Vanessa whoops]
[Casey and David laugh]
That's so exciting.
-[Casey] Mm. -Are you ready?
-[Casey] Ready. I feel like I'll cry. -[David] Yeah.
[Nick] Everyone, we are gathered here today
to witness and celebrate the marriage of Casey and David.
[tender music playing]
Now, marriage is the joining of two lives, two hearts, and two futures.
Today, Casey and David have chosen each other,
and commit to building a life together.
Casey.
Do you take David to be your husband, to love and support him,
in good times and bad for as long as you both shall live?
I do.
David, do you take Casey to be your wife,
to love and support her in good times and in bad times
for as long as you both shall live?
I do.
[Nick] I believe we have the rings.
-[Vanessa] I'll let you take that. -[softly] Yay.
Oh my gosh.
-[David] Look at that. -That's beautiful.
-[Nick] Beautiful. -[Vanessa] Here we go.
Okay. Give me your finger.
-[tender music continues] -[Casey] It's a cool ring.
[Nick] If you would, both repeat after me.
With this ring, I give you my heart, my love, and my promise.
[in unison] With this ring,
I give you my heart, my love, and my promise.
By the authority vested in me, I now pronounce you husband and wife.
-David, you may kiss your bride. -[cheering and whooping]
[upbeat music playing]
♪ You're gonna love this… ♪
-[Vanessa] I love it! -[Nick] All right! We did it!
-I'm so happy for you guys. -[Vanessa] Congratulations.
Well, don't worry. We didn't forget the single ladies.
-Single ladies, come on over. [laughs] -[Nick] Single ladies, file in!
-[Vanessa] Line up. -[David] All the single ladies!
-[Nick] Should I serenade you, Casey? -Yes.
-[music fades] -♪ All I am ♪
-[Vanessa] Oh, come on. -♪ All I'll be ♪
-♪ Everything in this world ♪ -[all cheering]
[upbeat music resumes]
[Nick] It's a tie!
♪ It's gonna make you feel so alive… ♪
[Vanessa] Okay, everybody.
Cheers to Casey and David, our married couple.
But also to Luke and Monica, our engaged couple.
-Cheers, guys. -Yes!
-Love wins! -[all] Cheers!
Don't forget to look each other in the eye.
We don't need five to seven years of bad sex.
-Even one year. -Never that. [chuckles]
-[upbeat music continues] -♪ You're gonna love this ♪
♪ It's gonna make you feel so alive… ♪
They're the first ones to get married on Love is Blind and The Ultimatum on stage.
-Right. -Ooh! Trendsetters.
-[Vanessa] Come over here. I'm just… -It's okay, it's still your autograph.
-[David] It's still your autograph! -[laughing]
-[laughing] It's okay!
All right, between the lines.
[woman] Oh, official?
-It's official. -God, it's your autograph.
-[David] Perfect. -[Vanessa] Let's hold it up. Yay!
[woman] Yay!
♪ You're gonna love this ♪
-♪ It's gonna be that kind of vibe ♪ -[music stops]