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Some of these people on the other side
had a hand in helping your mother
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figure something out.
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-We've been following my mom's journey.
-Really?
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And there's something
kind of similar in the feeling of, like,
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discovery, coming to an awareness,
a conclusion.
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I feel the people on the other side
were, like, pushing these events to happen
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so that your mom could get this,
if that makes sense.
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-Does that make sense?
-Yes!
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Switching gears a little bit.
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I have to basically tune back in
to what was coming through earlier.
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Brother is a big emphasis today.
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He's having me talk
about his work for some reason.
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Tinkering with things.
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I don't know if people will call
and be like, "Mr. Fix-It,"
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or what the deal is,
but it's those situations--
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-That's awesome. You're so good.
-When someone--
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You're sweet.
How does that make sense in the--
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-He is a mechanic.
-Okay.
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-The thing is--
-He fixed cars.
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People called him for gigs
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that he wasn't qualified to do,
but they expected he'd be able to do it.
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-Oh my gosh. What in the world?
-I know.
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-Sorry, I'm just amazed by your…
-It's all good.
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-…intuitiveness.
-All right.
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Two things that are striking me as odd.
There's acknowledgement of "V-A."
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"V-A" usually represents Virginia for me.
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-Are there any Virginia connections?
-Yes.
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Are there any Florida connections?
Anybody who lived in Florida?
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Yes, you mentioned Virginia.
My mother was born in Virginia.
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Then Marguerite,
her biological mother, lived in Florida.
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So I think that was
probably her coming through.
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-So excited about this part.
-Yeah.
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With my mom, 'cause, oh my goodness.
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You're talking about a lot of stuff.
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-Oh boy.
-We'll see.
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We'll see if we can connect you,
but there is this feeling of a reference.
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Let me see what this is.
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The only way I would describe this is,
it feels like the people on her side,
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there were missed chances
to get to interact.
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My mom never got to meet
her biological mother.
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I don't know if there's a similarity.
There's an acknowledgment of a feeling.
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-There is.
-Not getting a chance to connect.
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My mother was adopted.
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-When she was a baby, days old.
-Gotcha. Wow.
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Her whole life, she did not meet,
did not know her biological family.
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-Gotcha.
-Until recently.
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-Ah.
-She did that DNA test.
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-I think it was a couple…
-Yeah? Wow.
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Maybe a year and a half ago?
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Through the DNA test, we were able
to find her mother's side of the family.
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Um, same thing with my mom.
Interesting parallel.
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And her mother did pass away
about ten years ago.
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-Okay.
-She didn't get to meet her.
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But we met, like, two half sisters.
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She had a half brother.
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To blow your mind here, my mom had also…
She had three siblings. Half-siblings.
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-Okay.
-And, uh, one passed.
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Two are still living.
So it's uncanny at this point.
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-Wow. Yeah.
-Yeah.
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She got to meet that side of the family,
and, like, we have family pictures now.
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They told us, "We've been looking
for you for a really long time."
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"Like, actively looking for you."
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She's wondered her whole life.
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-I mean, she's 70-something now.
-Yeah.
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Her mother was on her deathbed.
She was saying, "My long-lost daughter."
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"My long-lost daughter."
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That's crazy 'cause that's exactly
what happened to my mom
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as her mother was dying.
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-Are you serious?
-She was literally saying…
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She had dementia but could remember
the little girl that she was looking for.
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-Her long-lost daughter. Ooh!
-Yeah.
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That's spooky.
I don't mean to take away from it.
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-No, it's…
-But that's so weird, you and I.
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-Just knowing brings peace to all of it.
-Yeah. Sure.
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-So…
-That's a blessing in her life.
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She's been able to find her siblings.
What a gift.
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It's interesting that we have the parallel
of making a discovery about family
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later on and all that in birth family.
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My mom still doesn't know
who her father is.
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-And that's a huge point of curiosity.
-Mm. Okay.
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Same with your mom.
She doesn't know who her dad is.
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I do appreciate you coming here.
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-'Cause it's been very helpful to me.
-Absolutely.
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-So thank you.
-It's good to see you. Lovely to meet you.
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-Nice to meet you. Thank you.
-Thank you guys for everything.
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-Take care.
-Bye!
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Okay.
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-Was that not awesome?
-Yeah.
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My heart is full.
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This whole thing has been
very overwhelming but very exciting.
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Having that connection with Tyler,
you do get a feeling of,
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you have a direct connection
to your lost loved one.
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It's almost kind of like they were
never gone to begin with.
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It's pretty incredible.
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That was pretty crazy.
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After doing thousands of readings
and connecting to so many family stories,
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it's really surreal to connect to someone
who has so many similarities
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to my own family's story.
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It's possible that they on the other side
orchestrated this reading to happen
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to show me that I needed to take
the advice I was given and was giving.
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One of my clients,
he bought a ping-pong table.
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Susan Sarandon apparently
popularized ping pong.
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-Yeah.
-That's random.
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Very random. I'm sure
it was a sport before Susan Sarandon,
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but she invested in it,
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and it, like, it took off.
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Where'd you get this info?
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-There's articles written about--
-Really?
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Susan Sarandon's relationship
with ping-pong.
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I'm not too bad at it.
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I'm not great. But I can sometimes, like--
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-Hit the ball?
-Yeah, sometimes I can hit the ball.
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I'm not renowned
for my eye-hand coordination.
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Mental ability, sure.
Hand-eye coordination--
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-Not so much.
-Not so much.
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-Hello. How's it going?
-Oh my goodness.
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-Tyler. How are you? Lovely to meet you.
-Hello. It's a pleasure to meet you.
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-I'm Carie.
-Wonderful to meet you.
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-Thank you for having me.
-Of course.
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-You have some stuff here.
-I do.
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-You came prepared. I love it.
-I did.
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Okay. So we'll hold on to this first.
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We'll see what comes through,
just in general, but…
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We're gonna go all across the board.
Just give me one second.
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Let's start connecting.
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We're gonna see what we get.
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Pardon my forgetfulness. Your name?
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-Carie.
-Carie. Okay.
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Amazing. Carie, Carie, Carie, Carie.
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So we're gonna see what comes in.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah?
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All right. Got one, two…
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This is weird.
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The way that this is kind of hitting me
is there is a reference to
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what I'd define as a tragic passing.
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Tragic passings are premature.
Typically not expected.
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It's when someone taken from us too soon.
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The weird thing with this is,
there's two iterations of this.
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So it's like we have one person
who died very young or really early,
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or under really tragic circumstances.
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Then we deal with another
really tragic situation
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of someone who passed away
under premature circumstances.
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Can you relate to two passings of people
who passed away tragically and early?
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-Absolutely.
-Okay.
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I feel the reason I'm here
is to talk about these two.
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Because they're inseparable,
is the way I would describe this. Okay.
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All right.
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Okay, yeah.
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I feel like we need to talk
about your grief process
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in the context of individuals passing,
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but the feeling that came through
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was a sense of not being able to grieve
at the time that this happened.
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Like you had to reschedule your grief
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or delay it in a big way.
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It felt like this happens,
and then I'm not able to go through
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this natural grief process.
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It feels delayed.
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We'll talk about that as far as
why that could've been and all of that.
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I'm gonna keep going here.
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This isn't particularly unique,
but I keep getting water symbology.
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And I don't know why. Um…
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I'm seeing, like, very, um, water.
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-You're--
-In a big way. Does that make sense?
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-Yes.
-Yeah.
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-Water is… It's all about the water.
-Yeah.
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Gonna keep going.
Oh, a lot coming in here.
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I don't know what that means.
There's that, that…
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Um…
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I'm gonna try
to handle this as best I can.
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The younger of the two keeps
bringing up Christmas.
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Keep seeing Christmas symbology,
Christmas lights, Christmas…
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But it's more than a kid who likes
Christmas. There's something here.
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The accident happened
just a few days after Christmas.
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-Yeah.
-It was our last celebration.
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It, it… In the way this comes across,
being put positively, very happy,
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but I can tell
it's kind of a bittersweet time of year.
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I'm gonna keep going.
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For some reason, an extraordinary amount
of emphasis is being put on you,
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as to what you had to do,
both before the passings
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but then afterwards.
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So there's a feeling
of gratitude around that.
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It's really interesting.
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-I'm a single mother.
-Okay, amazing.
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Without giving too much away,
when we talk about two passings
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that would have happened
in what feels like under two years,
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who would those be for you?
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My daughters.
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I had three wonderful daughters.
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Morgan was 25.
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Summer and Sawyer were 12 years old.
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I have twins. Sawyer was definitely
the boss of the two girls.
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She liked to call the shots.
Summer was happy to go along with her.
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What was neat about Morgan and I,
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when she became a grown woman,
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she became not only my daughter
but my friend.
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She was very involved in the twins' life.
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But on January 9th, 2018,
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I lost my daughter Sawyer
and my daughter Morgan.
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There used to be four of us.
Our house was filled with laughter
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and noise and excitement and energy.
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And now it's very quiet.
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It's filled with a young girl
and a mother who are
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so broken and just trying
to cope every day.
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A feeling of confusion.
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I just felt confused,
is the only way to describe it.
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When people pass away in car accidents,
usually there's not confusion.
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-Right.
-It's not striking me that way.
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What strikes me is this feeling of
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immediately having to make
a split-second decision.
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What do we do? Where do we go?
What's happening? And it happens.
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-Yes.
-Just like that.
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And so it's not like, uh…
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Whoo! This is very complicated,
is the only way to describe it. Uh…
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-Chaos.
-Yeah, absolutely.
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-It was chaos.
-Pandemonium.
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-Yes.
-Um…
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Hmm. That's strange.
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Uh, there's some things
that should be here but are not.
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And they are objects.
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So this is kinda weird.
There should be more.
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There's something weird here.
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I kinda wonder if either…
if something happened
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that got rid of a lot of the objects
we'd normally have.
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-Everything.
-Yes.
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We lost everything.
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I'm so sorry.
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The way this comes across,
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they're having me talk about the day
that this happened.
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They're having me
talk about where it happened.
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Um, it looks like it…
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The way I'd describe it,
I see destruction.
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-There's, like, large-scale damage.
-Yes.
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-In addition to these passings.
-Yes.
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I'm interested
to talk about what happened.
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I've never had anything come through
this way. Feels like…
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The closest thing
I can come to it is like, when, um…
238
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I had someone who died in a landslide.
239
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Felt very similar. It felt like…
240
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Very quick. Uh, does that make any sense?
241
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-Yes.
-I'm sorry.
242
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Man. Man, man, man. Okay.
243
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Yeah. This is so hard to explain
'cause I'm not certain of what this is.
244
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My best interpretation is
there would've been a conversation
245
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in the days leading up to this passing
or moments leading up to this passing
246
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of, like, what we need to do.
247
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But then just doesn't happen
fast enough. And I--
248
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Yes. There were conversations
prior to this accident.
249
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Of, "We gotta do something.
What do we do?"
250
00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:41,445
-Yes.
-It's really weird.
251
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Um…
252
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I want to be very clear.
253
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Neither of them give me
any feelings of any pain.
254
00:13:46,408 --> 00:13:49,203
-Really?
-I've done readings where I'd tell people
255
00:13:49,286 --> 00:13:51,705
if someone was hurting.
I don't get that feeling.
256
00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:56,836
This happened so quick. I feel like
I leave my body before I feel anything.
257
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Okay.
258
00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,799
It feels like they want to
release you of any feelings of guilt,
259
00:14:01,882 --> 00:14:04,343
accountability,
"should have done this over that."
260
00:14:04,426 --> 00:14:07,721
Even though there were
discussions previously, like, what to do.
261
00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:10,891
-A decision to make.
-Yeah, no one could have known
262
00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,518
what was gonna happen.
263
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Right, and at this point,
264
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I wanna go to, however extent
you're comfortable sharing,
265
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what happened, and, you know?
266
00:14:20,734 --> 00:14:21,735
Well.
267
00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,405
Um…
268
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It was the Montecito mudslide.
269
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And, um, 23 people died.
270
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Two of them were my children.
271
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Torrential downpours have unleashed
a deadly wave of flooding and mudslides.
272
00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:41,755
This morning, crews are racing
against time, looking for survivors,
273
00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:45,718
and new images are revealing
staggering devastation.
274
00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:50,639
The night before the mudslide,
this big storm was coming.
275
00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:53,851
Part of Montecito was evacuated,
and part of it was not.
276
00:14:53,934 --> 00:14:55,144
I was not evacuated.
277
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Right.
278
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But the decision was to stay or to go.
279
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I put them to bed and said,
"Don't be scared."
280
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"When you hear the rain, don't be afraid."
281
00:15:05,195 --> 00:15:07,823
That's the last time
I saw my daughter Sawyer.
282
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:08,782
Wow.
283
00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:14,163
And then the torrential downpour came and…
284
00:15:16,123 --> 00:15:20,544
3:30 in the morning,
our house exploded with all of us in it.
285
00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:27,259
Morgan and I were holding on
to each other in the water,
286
00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:32,514
in the mud, and it was going
about 80 miles an hour.
287
00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:34,767
We were all completely separated.
288
00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:36,894
And…
289
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I broke almost every bone
in my body from the waist up.
290
00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:42,983
I was barely alive.
291
00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,486
I was lucky enough
that I was buried in the mud.
292
00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:48,948
This much of my face was sticking out,
that I could scream for help.
293
00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:53,285
And, I don't really remember anything
after that for a few days.
294
00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:56,497
My daughter Summer, who is a survivor,
295
00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:59,833
by the time they found her,
she was buried ten feet under the mud,
296
00:15:59,917 --> 00:16:03,128
with pieces of houses
and cars piled on top of her.
297
00:16:03,712 --> 00:16:05,506
They were lucky enough to find her,
298
00:16:05,589 --> 00:16:08,008
but she was in a coma
after that for a few weeks.
299
00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:10,219
We didn't know
that she was going to survive either.
300
00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:11,720
-Wow.
-And…
301
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,932
We didn't find Sawyer till next morning
and she was gone.
302
00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:17,518
We didn't find Morgan for five days.
303
00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:20,104
I mean, I, um…
304
00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:25,275
I tried to save my oldest daughter,
and I couldn't save her.
305
00:16:26,735 --> 00:16:29,363
-Yeah. Yeah.
306
00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:36,787
Yeah.
307
00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,094
Phew. Uh…
308
00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:55,556
I'll take one minute. I'm so sorry.
309
00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:59,226
If you've seen all these readings I do,
I never get emotional,
310
00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:01,520
but that's just… My heart goes out to you.
311
00:17:01,603 --> 00:17:03,147
-Thank you.
-I'm so sorry.
312
00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,900
-It's been horrible.
-Yeah. Such a tragic thing.
313
00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:09,403
For anybody to have
to go through that is just…
314
00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:13,657
To be able to wake up the next morning,
after that and continue with your life.
315
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:17,578
The amount of strength that you had
to display and have to display,
316
00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:20,706
just to get up in the morning,
has to be huge.
317
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:22,666
So my heart goes out to you for that.
318
00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:24,001
-Thank you.
-Yeah.
319
00:17:24,501 --> 00:17:25,586
I'm gonna scribble.
320
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:28,630
I'm gonna reconnect to this,
gonna put my emotions to the side here,
321
00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,967
and just delve in
and see what else we get here, so.
322
00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:35,304
But I, I love the joyfulness
that comes through with them.
323
00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:38,265
The thing that comes through,
they are having me acknowledge
324
00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:40,684
three separate forms of being honored.
325
00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:42,019
-Yeah.
-Three separate.
326
00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:44,480
-Are you aware of that? Love that.
-Yes.
327
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,649
-In the way it comes through.
-About three-and-a-half years ago.
328
00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,861
There has been an event
every year to celebrate them.
329
00:17:50,944 --> 00:17:54,198
I love that. Associated with this,
there's something very special
330
00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:58,118
about honoring their names
in a much bigger way.
331
00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:01,955
Think of this as something
that would be more attributed to a place.
332
00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,917
I'm seeing it
in like a plaque kind of representation
333
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,211
and a feeling of excitement around this.
334
00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:08,670
There are a few plaques…
335
00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,631
-Cool.
-…already in existence.
336
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:14,093
-More like a memorial, I would say.
-Right.
337
00:18:14,176 --> 00:18:18,847
One of the memorials, I had them print
one of my daughter's poems on it.
338
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:19,807
I love that.
339
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:25,562
One of the big messages that comes through
is wanting there to be release of guilt
340
00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:30,317
as to why they would have been there.
I get the symbol of letting something go.
341
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,196
It's always their way of not wanting
to have someone hold on
342
00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,156
to the coulda, shoulda, woulda.
343
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,326
What if I'd done something differently?
Very much this feeling of,
344
00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:40,786
"Mom, it's okay."
345
00:18:42,871 --> 00:18:45,791
Tyler has opened doors
for me today
346
00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:50,796
that I didn't think were available to me.
347
00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:55,217
To be sitting in this creek,
348
00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,804
and feel a sense of
349
00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:01,765
happiness and joy,
350
00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,059
is nothing I ever thought I would feel.
351
00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:10,274
To be able to find some joy in tragedy
352
00:19:10,357 --> 00:19:13,610
is always something
that I'm personally looking for.
353
00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:15,821
I want to love this place again.
354
00:19:15,904 --> 00:19:18,949
I want to love this creek again,
and Tyler gave me that gift.
355
00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:35,966
So we're going to Laguna Beach?
356
00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:37,217
Along the coastline.
357
00:19:37,301 --> 00:19:41,180
Which should be really beautiful,
once you meet with Laurie Campbell today.
358
00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:44,349
It will be really interesting
to meet another medium.
359
00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:47,477
I have been read by a medium before.
Quite a few.
360
00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:50,355
I've had varying experiences of validity.
361
00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:53,025
Some have been extraordinary.
Others have been mundane.
362
00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:55,110
It's finding the one that works for you.
363
00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:59,823
-Interesting to see what she gets.
-I'm excited. I can't even tell you.
364
00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:03,076
I kept looking at my clock.
"Is it time to get up yet?"
365
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,705
Is that how people feel
when they're gonna meet you?
366
00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:09,833
-Weird having the tables turned on me.
-Yeah.
367
00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:12,002
I'm so connected
to my family's story,
368
00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:14,296
in the sense that it runs
through my veins.
369
00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:17,007
So I have implicit bias,
370
00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:19,635
which impedes me
from being able to connect intuitively.
371
00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:22,846
Getting read by a medium will mean
that information could come through
372
00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,390
from someone detached from myself,
373
00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:28,352
who might be able
to give me the answers I'm looking for.
374
00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:36,318
-How beautiful this is.
-Yes.
375
00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:38,737
-You guys wanna have a seat?
-Yeah. We can do it.
376
00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:39,863
We're excited.
377
00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:43,283
No, you! I'm, like,
sitting here going like…
378
00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:46,453
When I turned, it's like I heard you.
I was like, "My God. They're here!"
379
00:20:46,536 --> 00:20:47,955
I trust Laurie Campbell.
380
00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:51,875
Going to her, my hope is she will give
insight into this family mystery.
381
00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:54,920
She's one of the few
I would trust with such a sensitive thing.
382
00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,297
I think the likelihood is very high
383
00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:59,383
that she'll provide answers
to the questions we have.
384
00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:01,009
Um…
385
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:05,889
Prior to your visit, I was able to make
some notes of things coming through.
386
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:09,309
They kept talking about health.
Health was the first thing I got with you.
387
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:13,146
And when I look at the heart,
it's like a palpitation.
388
00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:14,690
Any palpitations?
389
00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:16,650
I had a underdeveloped heart
when I was born
390
00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:18,944
I've had palpitations throughout my life.
391
00:21:19,027 --> 00:21:22,114
Well, it's interesting.
Your lungs felt more like, um,
392
00:21:22,197 --> 00:21:25,617
somebody who has had
either bronchitis, pneumonia or an asthma.
393
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,787
Yeah. My lungs are covered
with these things called blebs.
394
00:21:29,371 --> 00:21:31,999
When they pop, they cause collapsed lungs.
395
00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:33,750
So I've had surgery for it.
396
00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,128
-Collapsed lung.
-There's a risk of reoccurrence.
397
00:21:36,211 --> 00:21:38,588
Something for the rest of my life
I'm gonna have to deal with.
398
00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:40,173
-That you're very aware of.
-Vigilant.
399
00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:43,176
You have doctors for.
You just need to be careful with that.
400
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:45,053
-Thank you.
-Interesting. Yeah.
401
00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:52,102
I get a lot of…
I always comb strange details.
402
00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:55,689
I wrote down a few names.
You don't recognize them, it's fine.
403
00:21:55,772 --> 00:21:58,108
What I wrote down was Joseph.
404
00:21:59,276 --> 00:22:01,528
I didn't know if it's Joe or Joseph.
405
00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:06,450
My mom's side of the family.
Her father's name, we believe, is Joseph.
406
00:22:08,201 --> 00:22:10,037
I'm hoping Laurie can get me insight
407
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,581
into the emotions behind
what happened to my mom.
408
00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:16,668
For the other side of it,
I contacted an investigative genealogist.
409
00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:20,255
She's an expert
in DNA analysis and family tracing.
410
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,425
If anyone can track down
the missing pieces, it's her.
411
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:27,429
Well, you guys definitely gave me
a challenge.
412
00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:32,768
It initially appeared as though
Joe Cowart was your biological father
413
00:22:32,851 --> 00:22:34,519
because your DNA.
414
00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:37,439
And Joe Cowart is deceased.
415
00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:39,775
So I don't want to say something,
416
00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,943
and then turn around, and it's wrong.
417
00:22:42,611 --> 00:22:45,906
After working the DNA extensively,
418
00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:49,117
Joe Cowart is absolutely
your birth father.
419
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,369
Wow, okay.
420
00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:53,663
I tried to find out
as much as I could about Joe.
421
00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:54,706
-His life.
-Thank you.
422
00:22:54,790 --> 00:23:00,045
What I was told about Joe
is that he was a redheaded guy.
423
00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:03,507
I know that he was in the military.
424
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:06,426
-He served, I believe, in two wars.
-Wow.
425
00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:09,429
He lived by himself.
426
00:23:09,513 --> 00:23:12,974
He would get his meals from the church.
He would go and eat.
427
00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:16,603
-So he was living a subdued, quiet life.
-Right.
428
00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:21,483
And actually the way that they, you know,
realized something was wrong
429
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:24,152
was he stopped going
to the church for a week.
430
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:28,073
And they actually had the fire department
break into his house
431
00:23:28,156 --> 00:23:30,659
and found that he had passed away.
432
00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,494
Interesting. I didn't know that.
433
00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:33,912
-That's amazing.
-Wow.
434
00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:37,165
I would've never known. Thank you.
435
00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:42,879
You're welcome. I think your top DNA match
Debbie thinks that she has some photos.
436
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,798
She's going to look for those.
437
00:23:44,881 --> 00:23:47,259
And then we have cousin Bruce,
438
00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,178
who's a first cousin, who was adorable.
439
00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:53,432
He was like, "If I got another cousin,
I want to know about it."
440
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:54,474
"Have her call me."
441
00:23:54,558 --> 00:23:55,934
-So he was--
-Thank you.
442
00:23:56,017 --> 00:23:58,645
He was really…
I've got to be honest. He was excited.
443
00:23:58,728 --> 00:24:00,105
He was excited.
444
00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:01,398
-Makes me happy.
-Sweet.
445
00:24:01,481 --> 00:24:02,774
Does it? Yeah.
446
00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:04,901
It's nice to feel wanted.
447
00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:08,905
And it's nice to feel the endearingness
that you're telling me about.
448
00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:10,031
Look, I mean this…
449
00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:12,075
These are your blood relatives.
450
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,953
So it would be really cool
for you to get to know them.
451
00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:15,871
Yes.
452
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:18,498
But I did bring an object.
453
00:24:18,582 --> 00:24:20,876
You can hold on to it. You don't have to.
454
00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:22,961
It's wonderful.
455
00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:31,178
I saw, like, a nurse right away. Um…
456
00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:37,601
With your, um, biological mother,
457
00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:40,645
why would it be like
you were taken out of her arms?
458
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,772
Because I was. At the hospital.
459
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,941
-The lady who took me from my mother.
-Who?
460
00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,026
Her name is Stella.
461
00:24:46,109 --> 00:24:48,445
Okay. 'Cause that's just like, "Oh man."
462
00:24:49,946 --> 00:24:52,199
Did she ever lock you guys in a closet?
463
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:55,076
-She did everything.
-Or in a room, not let you out?
464
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,703
I feel dirty. I feel squalor.
465
00:24:56,786 --> 00:24:59,873
-I feel just being left inside.
-Yes.
466
00:24:59,956 --> 00:25:04,127
I feel like when a child
is extremely lonely and just cut off.
467
00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:05,378
That's how it feels.
468
00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:11,718
So, um, one of the children that this
woman raised was locked in the closet.
469
00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:17,474
Was one of the children
a different ethnic background than you?
470
00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:18,892
-Yes.
-Okay.
471
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,436
I wanted to ask
about the original birth certificate.
472
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,648
-I know we had difficulty obtaining that.
-Yes.
473
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:26,816
Did we make any strides there or is it--
474
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,945
If you look at the filing dates,
and you look at everything,
475
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:33,156
it looks like that is
the original birth certificate.
476
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,326
I believe Mary filled it out,
and she put down the address.
477
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:37,911
I think it was Felicia Street.
478
00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:40,205
-Felicity Street. Yeah.
-Felicity Street.
479
00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:42,832
And you know, when I saw that, I was like,
480
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:46,836
"You could see when it came to Stella."
481
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,631
Stella is the mother.
Where was she born? "Unknown."
482
00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:51,550
How do you not know where you were born?
483
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:52,551
-Right.
-Right.
484
00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:57,055
I feel like the person that took you,
485
00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:58,473
I think she's a con woman.
486
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:02,227
And so your mother
and your grandma just thought
487
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:05,564
that the lady was taking
the baby back to the nursery.
488
00:26:05,647 --> 00:26:08,984
But this is what I wanna, um,
say about that.
489
00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:14,114
There's something when somebody
has a child, and it's not wanted,
490
00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:15,907
and they just discard.
491
00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:19,244
There is another thing
to when somebody has a child,
492
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:22,622
and there's really great affection
and love there,
493
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:25,041
but they're not able to keep that child.
494
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,252
You came from not the first one.
495
00:26:27,335 --> 00:26:28,587
You came from the second.
496
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,797
When somebody loves you deeply.
497
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,134
But they cannot care or cannot keep you.
498
00:26:34,217 --> 00:26:36,511
Sometimes we have to let go out of love.
499
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,098
Not because we want to,
but because we have to.
500
00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:44,769
Now it's about the new journey
that's gonna begin for you.
501
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:45,895
Yeah.
502
00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:47,522
-Wow.
-That was a trip.
503
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,190
That was wild, Tyler.
504
00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:50,900
Having the tables turned on me.
505
00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,528
-My gosh. What a gift we were given.
-I know.
506
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,948
What surprised me the most
was that she, you kn--
507
00:26:57,032 --> 00:27:01,328
She knew that my mother gave me away
because she did it out of love.
508
00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:03,330
It wasn't because she didn't love me.
509
00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,498
And that she wanted what was best for me.
510
00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:08,126
And that's, that's…
511
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,629
…healing. It's healing.
512
00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:12,297
Yeah. It is.
513
00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:29,397
Go get it.
514
00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:33,943
I'm a huge fan of Tyler's.
515
00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:37,656
I decided to write into his website
because someone had just passed away,
516
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,617
and I wanted to find a way
to connect with him.
517
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,537
-Hi, Tyler.
-Hi.
518
00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:46,498
This is Penelope.
519
00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:48,458
Oh, hi, Penelope.
520
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:49,542
Hey.
521
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,045
Oh, hey little baby.
522
00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:55,006
-How's it going? Lovely to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
523
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,675
Good to meet you.
Thank you for having me.
524
00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:57,717
Yeah. Thank you.
525
00:27:57,801 --> 00:27:59,427
This is really cool.
526
00:28:00,428 --> 00:28:02,263
I'm gonna get a little snuggle in.
527
00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,599
Then we're gonna start the reading.
528
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:05,975
-All right.
-Oh.
529
00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:07,727
Oh, what a cutie.
530
00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,695
Precious.
531
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,866
Okay. You, you, you.
532
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,661
It's kind of interesting,
in the way this comes across.
533
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,915
I feel like I have to talk about
somebody who lost a pet.
534
00:28:28,998 --> 00:28:31,042
I keep getting acknowledgments of, like,
535
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:34,629
I was getting this childlike energy,
but then I was like, "This is an animal."
536
00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,464
-I'm gonna keep that in mind.
-Okay.
537
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:39,884
I mean, I will say this.
538
00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,554
Animals come through
in readings sometimes, but, uh…
539
00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,223
not to this extent.
540
00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,392
-So it's very intense.
-Yes.
541
00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:49,269
In the way it comes across.
542
00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:52,522
-Definitely have a feeling of a pet.
-Yep.
543
00:28:53,648 --> 00:28:55,525
There's a tragic feeling around that.
544
00:28:57,819 --> 00:29:01,030
That's interesting.
So I'm gonna put that to the side.
545
00:29:05,118 --> 00:29:08,788
Okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
There, there, there.
546
00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:13,126
There's a contemporary reference
that comes through.
547
00:29:13,209 --> 00:29:15,837
-Yes.
-Um, a friend, a partner.
548
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,589
-Yes.
-That kind of vibe.
549
00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:19,799
-That comes through. Make sense?
-Yes.
550
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:22,343
Huh.
551
00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:25,138
They're having me joke
about misspelling your name.
552
00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:26,806
This is weird, I know.
553
00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:30,393
I don't know why, but it's very specific.
Like, it's not "J." It's "Y."
554
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:32,353
How do you spell your name?
555
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,522
-Y-A-S-M-I-N-E.
-Okay.
556
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:38,693
-There's a funniness around that.
-Okay. If this is who I think it is…
557
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,738
It's… He would make jokes with my name.
558
00:29:41,821 --> 00:29:45,742
Like, he would be like,
"Jasmine or Yaz or whatever."
559
00:29:45,825 --> 00:29:48,203
-It's like I have to make fun of it.
-Funny guy.
560
00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:51,247
It's interesting in the way
it comes across. It's silly.
561
00:29:53,541 --> 00:29:56,503
Then there is a feeling of excitement
from this individual.
562
00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:57,462
I feel excited.
563
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,465
-Comes across as a character.
-He is a character.
564
00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:01,758
Definitely a character.
565
00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:04,969
He's showing me a lot of random things
that I wasn't aware of.
566
00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:08,139
Like people eating
Hot Cheetos out of a bag.
567
00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,308
-Really weird random things.
-Oh my gosh.
568
00:30:10,391 --> 00:30:12,811
Joking about that.
When your fingers get gross.
569
00:30:12,894 --> 00:30:15,688
-With the red, but I'm like…
-Yes.
570
00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:18,149
-So, we…
571
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:22,362
I guess in high school,
I ate a lot of junk food.
572
00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,949
So, I don't know.
573
00:30:26,032 --> 00:30:31,037
We have this ongoing joke
about just red fingers and Hot Cheetos.
574
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,705
-It was random.
-Yeah.
575
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:36,292
It's funny 'cause I'm talking about
residue on my hands. I'm like…
576
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:38,461
-Working through it. Random.
-That's him.
577
00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:39,963
That is funny.
578
00:30:40,046 --> 00:30:45,260
I was…
I think 13 when I met David.
579
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,513
I don't think I had a choice.
He would start making fun of me.
580
00:30:48,596 --> 00:30:50,974
Like, he was very playful and, like,
581
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,810
would just tease me all the time.
582
00:30:53,893 --> 00:30:56,980
Just a big brother, like,
we just were super close.
583
00:30:57,063 --> 00:31:00,275
He's happy you're here.
I can tell that.
584
00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:03,528
I'm trying to figure out what happened.
Because, um…
585
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:04,487
Mm-hmm.
586
00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:07,782
It's just a weird thing.
It's a weird situation.
587
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,910
I basically feel like, I…
He's not showing any pain when he passed.
588
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,037
Like I'm here, and then I'm gone. Um…
589
00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:16,833
He showed me the symbology of, like,
closing my eyes and passing away.
590
00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:20,003
-That's really weird. I don't… Yeah.
-Yeah, it was very quick.
591
00:31:20,503 --> 00:31:26,634
He had smoked a joint of weed
that had fentanyl in it.
592
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:29,345
And I believe that is
what killed him instantly.
593
00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:30,388
That would fit.
594
00:31:31,097 --> 00:31:32,265
Thank you for sharing.
595
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,350
-Somebody who was not suicidal.
-No.
596
00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:38,104
Very much excited for life.
And then just passes.
597
00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:40,440
I think there's going to be
awareness around that,
598
00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:42,233
and the possibility it can happen,
599
00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:45,987
that I think people around him
will endorse or support to say,
600
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,781
"Hey, let's make sure
we know what we're ingesting."
601
00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,491
That kind of thing.
602
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:54,454
-Overall, he's okay and at peace, and…?
-Yeah, all good.
603
00:31:54,537 --> 00:31:55,622
Comes through all good.
604
00:31:57,707 --> 00:31:58,833
Okay.
605
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:04,297
Gonna put him to the side really quick
because I have other stuff coming in.
606
00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:07,342
Okay, this now.
607
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:09,469
Keep going back to the pet thing.
608
00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,179
-Um…
-Mm-hmm.
609
00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:15,808
What's interesting is that little one
might notice this little one,
610
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,602
in the way this comes across.
611
00:32:17,685 --> 00:32:21,397
This is good to keep in mind.
They are making a distinct connection.
612
00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,441
-Mm-hmm.
-It's strange.
613
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,944
That little one might either…
614
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,572
like do the same things
or have similarities.
615
00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:33,159
They're bringing this distinct feeling of,
like, similar, in some way.
616
00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:37,664
Um, so it's actually interesting even in
where the animal might lay down,
617
00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:40,124
or have an affinity for laying or sitting.
618
00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:41,918
There's a parallel being drawn there.
619
00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:43,211
Yep. Exactly.
620
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,630
-You've noticed this before?
-Totally noticed.
621
00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:49,300
Gotcha. 'Cause it does feel like
it's something almost sweet.
622
00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:51,302
-In the way it comes across.
-Yeah.
623
00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:54,472
I'll ask you point-blank.
Who's this connected to?
624
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:57,100
-My dog who passed away.
-Yes.
625
00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:02,522
His name was Astro.
And he was the love of my life.
626
00:33:02,605 --> 00:33:03,982
Yes. Yes, yes.
627
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:05,984
Okay, I've done now hundreds of these.
628
00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:08,486
I've never had a pet
come through as the first thing.
629
00:33:08,569 --> 00:33:11,823
I'm focusing on people
who were human in life.
630
00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:13,992
-Yeah.
-But this is very much a big thing.
631
00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:15,994
-Very big
-I just want you to know today.
632
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:18,287
It's important that that comes through.
633
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:19,998
-About the pet.
-Yeah.
634
00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:25,628
Well, I will say with this little one,
and I do have to bring up…
635
00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:31,384
There's something here with this one
where I feel like if they hadn't passed
636
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:32,927
of what they passed of,
637
00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,180
there's something else,
medically, that comes up for me.
638
00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,683
A susceptibility that
this animal would have had.
639
00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:41,686
That could have transitioned it anyway.
640
00:33:43,271 --> 00:33:49,318
We were aware, or we had
this issue with him and his breathing.
641
00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:53,364
We noticed that he would
want to play, play, play,
642
00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,575
just normal, puppy behavior.
643
00:33:55,658 --> 00:33:59,537
And we'd have to take toys away
'cause he'd get so worked up.
644
00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:00,997
So out of breath.
645
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,625
-We'd isolate him without his toys.
-Right.
646
00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:07,503
That was why we decided to, like,
647
00:34:07,587 --> 00:34:11,758
see what our options were,
as far as getting that fixed for him.
648
00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:15,386
-Sure.
-And he was in surgery…
649
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:16,721
-Right.
-…when he passed.
650
00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,347
-Yeah.
-And…
651
00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:21,559
It seems like the secondary thing
just came out of nowhere.
652
00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:22,894
-Yeah.
-It's interesting.
653
00:34:22,977 --> 00:34:27,523
Don't feel like they would've been able to
live long with that initial thing anyway.
654
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:30,026
I feel like part
of the message here is, like,
655
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:34,697
despite how tragic that was,
and horrific in the sense of the timing,
656
00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:37,533
this animal was already
on the decline of its life.
657
00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:40,828
And we were very aware of that.
658
00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:44,082
And we kind of were just like,
"What do we do?"
659
00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:46,667
-Yeah. Yeah.
-And that validates that, for sure.
660
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,586
It's an interesting and sad thing.
661
00:34:48,669 --> 00:34:51,297
We do things trying
to help our animals but…
662
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:54,133
Nature sometimes,
it just goes that direction,
663
00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,385
but I get very much a sense of peace.
664
00:34:57,553 --> 00:35:01,057
This loss was very hard on me
because I felt so attached to him,
665
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,644
and he was like
more of, like, a son than like a dog.
666
00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:06,479
He was like my kid.
667
00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:09,899
-Of course.
-Thank you.
668
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,068
Tyler, this was amazing.
669
00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:15,113
I am so glad we got to talk,
and it's been a beautiful day.
670
00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,406
It's been an experience of a lifetime.
671
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:20,493
I'm very grateful that
you share this gift with everyone.
672
00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:22,203
I wouldn't have missed it.
673
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:24,580
-Take care. Lovely to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
674
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:34,215
Nanci! Hey!
675
00:35:35,007 --> 00:35:36,175
Aw!
676
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:40,221
I believe that anything with sentience
has the ability to come through.
677
00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:43,224
In readings, when I refer
to animals that have passed,
678
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:46,269
it's not that the dog
is coming through barking necessarily,
679
00:35:46,352 --> 00:35:50,773
as much as the essence that
once embodied that animal is continued.
680
00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:56,320
So in readings, while I tend to connect
to the souls or the essence of something
681
00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,656
that occupied a human body,
sometimes the same will happen
682
00:35:58,739 --> 00:36:00,575
for things that occupied an animal body.
683
00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:03,619
It's really not that different.
We are part of the animal kingdom.
684
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:08,457
I swear, I think pets get more separated,
or more attached when they're separated.
685
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:09,792
-Yeah.
-Right.
686
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,547
And also when you spend a lot
of time with them, like, one-on-one.
687
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:17,550
She's gotten a lot more attached
to me while you were gone.
688
00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:19,218
Has she been more well behaved?
689
00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:21,179
-No. Absolutely not.
690
00:36:22,054 --> 00:36:25,474
Not surprised. All right, missus. Oh!
691
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,477
You're big on the hugs.
692
00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,980
-She loves hugs.
693
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:49,207
We are, looks like only
a couple minutes away from the Tea Room.
694
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,209
I used to do so many readings there.
695
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:55,254
-In the alley. Yeah.
-You mentioned that before.
696
00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:58,507
While in Hanford, I'm gonna meet
with the owners of the tea shop
697
00:36:58,591 --> 00:36:59,926
where I used to do readings.
698
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:02,678
I promised Steve and Arianne
a reading years ago,
699
00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:06,766
and unfortunately, went to LA before
I got the chance to fulfill that promise.
700
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:08,726
So I'm back.
701
00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:11,771
-Hi, Tyler!
-Hey, Tyler!
702
00:37:11,854 --> 00:37:15,274
Last time I saw them,
I was a teenager. It's bizarre.
703
00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:17,777
-We'll go look at the alley.
-China Alley.
704
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:19,487
-Amazing.
-Oh, I love it.
705
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:20,947
From the ages of 16 to 18,
706
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:24,075
I was doing readings
out of the L.T. Sue Tea Room.
707
00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:26,744
The Imperial Dynasty
Cocktail Lounge.
708
00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:29,664
-Oh wow.
-It's so beautiful. So ornate.
709
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:32,625
I'd meet with upwards
of eight clients a day there.
710
00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:35,461
I was spending my full day in China Alley.
711
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,882
I would've never thought
I'd be where I am today.
712
00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:43,719
Going back, I, for a long time,
thought I would spend my whole life there.
713
00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:46,430
-Wanna see your favorite booth?
-I'd love to.
714
00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,392
-I would alternate between them.
-These were the booths?
715
00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:52,979
Here people started noticing me more.
I preferred the one in the alley.
716
00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:55,481
People would come in,
like, "I want a reading."
717
00:37:55,564 --> 00:37:56,482
Then I'd be like…
718
00:37:56,565 --> 00:38:00,444
He would get so interrupted all the time
because he was our local celebrity.
719
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,904
-You're sweet.
-Yes!
720
00:38:02,488 --> 00:38:05,449
I have this today.
What you'll see is me scribble.
721
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:06,993
It's just how I tune in.
722
00:38:07,076 --> 00:38:08,035
We remember.
723
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,578
-Yeah!
-Scribble, scribble.
724
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:12,123
People would walk in.
They'd be like, "What's he doing?"
725
00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:14,041
"Sketching people?" Then they'd cry,
726
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,210
so they knew it wasn't that.
727
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,587
But, yes. So I'm gonna scribble.
728
00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:21,340
And we will see. Just give me one sec.
729
00:38:22,925 --> 00:38:23,843
Okay.
730
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,640
There's a mother figure coming in.
Is your mom passed?
731
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,769
Yeah. I'm getting a lot
of imagery around excitement.
732
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:36,522
The feeling of joy,
but a feeling of compiling.
733
00:38:36,605 --> 00:38:38,107
Like I'm compiling notes.
734
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:41,694
I think she saved things
where we're like, "What in the world?"
735
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:43,029
So let me describe this
736
00:38:43,112 --> 00:38:46,657
because I'm sure there's a lot of
valuable documents, valuable stories,
737
00:38:46,741 --> 00:38:48,576
but you're gonna find stuff, like,
738
00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:51,245
"Ma'am, why do we have
this from 40 years ago?"
739
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,413
It's a newspaper.
740
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:55,249
-What was the significance--
-She just died two months ago.
741
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,044
-I'm sorry. It was recently. Yeah.
-It was a…
742
00:38:58,127 --> 00:39:01,339
And I've been going through her stuff to…
743
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:05,426
She didn't have a computer,
so everything's like that.
744
00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:07,887
-Right. I believe it.
-And, um…
745
00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:10,723
I'm trying to decipher all of her things,
746
00:39:10,806 --> 00:39:12,808
and it's like,
why was this important to you?
747
00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:14,685
Then there are some artifacts
748
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:18,856
that I'm going to be donating
to the Taoist Temple Museum.
749
00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:21,108
-Amazing.
-Because they belong there.
750
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:23,361
Not in a box with Mom's stuff.
751
00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:26,739
My mother was
one of the leading preservationists
752
00:39:26,822 --> 00:39:28,824
and docents of China Alley.
753
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,869
She spent a lot of her hours
working in the Temple Museum
754
00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:33,537
and giving tours.
755
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:37,166
She would give a tour to anyone
that wanted to take a look.
756
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:43,547
-When we talk about the temple…
-Mm-hmm.
757
00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:47,385
…there's an aspect that comes through.
I'm trying to figure out if it's there.
758
00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:50,638
But there's gonna be
a need for what looks like, um…
759
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,808
Like a form of a remodeling situation,
but it's only on one part.
760
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:56,435
Have we had inspectors
look at the building?
761
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,356
-Make sure we're good there?
-We have a staircase in the garden
762
00:40:00,439 --> 00:40:04,902
that needs to be repaired,
and it's kinda… rotting.
763
00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:07,530
Sagging. Doing all those things.
764
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,825
-And her mom--
-That was one of her last things.
765
00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:13,119
Was to make sure that gets taken care of.
766
00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:14,161
Yeah, yeah.
767
00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:18,040
It's also showing me avoiding
anything fire-related.
768
00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,584
It's weird. Anything, like…
769
00:40:20,668 --> 00:40:21,710
That's strange.
770
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,797
Seeing, like, "Avoid heat."
I don't know what that is.
771
00:40:26,882 --> 00:40:30,344
Um, do you know of any significant
house fires or any situations,
772
00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:34,181
were there any stories about a big fire
that would have destroyed anything?
773
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,100
Not really.
774
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,060
Interesting, interesting.
775
00:40:41,063 --> 00:40:42,398
I don't know what this is.
776
00:40:42,481 --> 00:40:44,984
It keeps coming through.
Does it ring any bells?
777
00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:46,360
No, not offhand.
778
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,612
-I'll probably figure it out.
-Yeah.
779
00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:49,989
-Think of it.
-No worries.
780
00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:53,075
I have to tell you, being here,
it's cathartic for me.
781
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,535
-It's special.
-Right.
782
00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:56,454
We fit right back where we left off.
783
00:40:56,537 --> 00:40:58,747
I know. It's so surreal.
784
00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:01,333
I can't thank you enough
for your hospitality,
785
00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:03,961
but also you lent
the opportunity for people to come in
786
00:41:04,044 --> 00:41:05,796
and have meaningful experiences.
787
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,216
It was our pleasure. It was…
meant a lot for us as well.
788
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,218
Yeah. I'm really, really thankful.
789
00:41:30,571 --> 00:41:31,989
Unfortunately, the fire,
790
00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:34,700
which is believed
to have started in the stairwell
791
00:41:34,783 --> 00:41:38,871
caused severe heat and smoke damage
to the temple room on the second floor.
792
00:41:38,954 --> 00:41:40,748
Wing, who recently lost her mother,
793
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:43,959
collapsed when she was allowed
back inside on Thursday morning.
794
00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:47,338
I really fell to my knees
in this crumpled heap.