1 00:00:10,885 --> 00:00:16,349 Some of these people on the other side had a hand in helping your mother 2 00:00:17,475 --> 00:00:18,727 figure something out. 3 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,271 -We've been following my mom's journey. -Really? 4 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:25,150 And there's something kind of similar in the feeling of, like, 5 00:00:25,233 --> 00:00:28,820 discovery, coming to an awareness, a conclusion. 6 00:00:28,903 --> 00:00:33,450 I feel the people on the other side were, like, pushing these events to happen 7 00:00:33,533 --> 00:00:35,910 so that your mom could get this, if that makes sense. 8 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:37,662 -Does that make sense? -Yes! 9 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:56,097 Switching gears a little bit. 10 00:00:56,181 --> 00:00:59,559 I have to basically tune back in to what was coming through earlier. 11 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,062 Brother is a big emphasis today. 12 00:01:02,145 --> 00:01:04,481 He's having me talk about his work for some reason. 13 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:06,024 Tinkering with things. 14 00:01:06,107 --> 00:01:08,860 I don't know if people will call and be like, "Mr. Fix-It," 15 00:01:08,943 --> 00:01:11,404 or what the deal is, but it's those situations-- 16 00:01:11,488 --> 00:01:13,615 -That's awesome. You're so good. -When someone-- 17 00:01:13,698 --> 00:01:16,785 You're sweet. How does that make sense in the-- 18 00:01:16,868 --> 00:01:18,578 -He is a mechanic. -Okay. 19 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:20,038 -The thing is-- -He fixed cars. 20 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:21,456 People called him for gigs 21 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:25,001 that he wasn't qualified to do, but they expected he'd be able to do it. 22 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:27,587 -Oh my gosh. What in the world? -I know. 23 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:30,715 -Sorry, I'm just amazed by your… -It's all good. 24 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:32,675 -…intuitiveness. -All right. 25 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:40,600 Two things that are striking me as odd. There's acknowledgement of "V-A." 26 00:01:40,683 --> 00:01:43,394 "V-A" usually represents Virginia for me. 27 00:01:43,478 --> 00:01:46,064 -Are there any Virginia connections? -Yes. 28 00:01:46,147 --> 00:01:49,109 Are there any Florida connections? Anybody who lived in Florida? 29 00:01:49,192 --> 00:01:53,279 Yes, you mentioned Virginia. My mother was born in Virginia. 30 00:01:53,363 --> 00:01:58,451 Then Marguerite, her biological mother, lived in Florida. 31 00:01:58,535 --> 00:02:01,371 So I think that was probably her coming through. 32 00:02:01,454 --> 00:02:03,414 -So excited about this part. -Yeah. 33 00:02:03,498 --> 00:02:05,333 With my mom, 'cause, oh my goodness. 34 00:02:05,416 --> 00:02:07,252 You're talking about a lot of stuff. 35 00:02:07,335 --> 00:02:08,753 -Oh boy. -We'll see. 36 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:13,383 We'll see if we can connect you, but there is this feeling of a reference. 37 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:15,135 Let me see what this is. 38 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:21,391 The only way I would describe this is, it feels like the people on her side, 39 00:02:21,891 --> 00:02:24,727 there were missed chances to get to interact. 40 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:27,147 My mom never got to meet her biological mother. 41 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:31,234 I don't know if there's a similarity. There's an acknowledgment of a feeling. 42 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:34,612 -There is. -Not getting a chance to connect. 43 00:02:35,572 --> 00:02:37,198 My mother was adopted. 44 00:02:37,282 --> 00:02:40,618 -When she was a baby, days old. -Gotcha. Wow. 45 00:02:40,702 --> 00:02:45,623 Her whole life, she did not meet, did not know her biological family. 46 00:02:45,707 --> 00:02:47,375 -Gotcha. -Until recently. 47 00:02:47,458 --> 00:02:50,003 -Ah. -She did that DNA test. 48 00:02:50,086 --> 00:02:52,005 -I think it was a couple… -Yeah? Wow. 49 00:02:52,088 --> 00:02:53,423 Maybe a year and a half ago? 50 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:57,886 Through the DNA test, we were able to find her mother's side of the family. 51 00:02:58,469 --> 00:03:01,181 Um, same thing with my mom. Interesting parallel. 52 00:03:01,264 --> 00:03:04,184 And her mother did pass away about ten years ago. 53 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:06,769 -Okay. -She didn't get to meet her. 54 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:09,439 But we met, like, two half sisters. 55 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:11,316 She had a half brother. 56 00:03:11,399 --> 00:03:16,404 To blow your mind here, my mom had also… She had three siblings. Half-siblings. 57 00:03:16,487 --> 00:03:20,074 -Okay. -And, uh, one passed. 58 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:23,328 Two are still living. So it's uncanny at this point. 59 00:03:23,411 --> 00:03:25,163 -Wow. Yeah. -Yeah. 60 00:03:25,246 --> 00:03:30,001 She got to meet that side of the family, and, like, we have family pictures now. 61 00:03:30,084 --> 00:03:34,047 They told us, "We've been looking for you for a really long time." 62 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:36,841 "Like, actively looking for you." 63 00:03:36,925 --> 00:03:38,551 She's wondered her whole life. 64 00:03:38,635 --> 00:03:40,803 -I mean, she's 70-something now. -Yeah. 65 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:45,183 Her mother was on her deathbed. She was saying, "My long-lost daughter." 66 00:03:45,266 --> 00:03:46,559 "My long-lost daughter." 67 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:51,314 That's crazy 'cause that's exactly what happened to my mom 68 00:03:51,397 --> 00:03:52,607 as her mother was dying. 69 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:55,235 -Are you serious? -She was literally saying… 70 00:03:55,318 --> 00:03:58,905 She had dementia but could remember the little girl that she was looking for. 71 00:03:58,988 --> 00:04:01,199 -Her long-lost daughter. Ooh! -Yeah. 72 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:03,534 That's spooky. I don't mean to take away from it. 73 00:04:03,618 --> 00:04:06,371 -No, it's… -But that's so weird, you and I. 74 00:04:06,454 --> 00:04:10,250 -Just knowing brings peace to all of it. -Yeah. Sure. 75 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:12,585 -So… -That's a blessing in her life. 76 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:15,546 She's been able to find her siblings. What a gift. 77 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:19,550 It's interesting that we have the parallel of making a discovery about family 78 00:04:19,634 --> 00:04:21,552 later on and all that in birth family. 79 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:23,763 My mom still doesn't know who her father is. 80 00:04:23,846 --> 00:04:27,558 -And that's a huge point of curiosity. -Mm. Okay. 81 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:30,812 Same with your mom. She doesn't know who her dad is. 82 00:04:31,562 --> 00:04:33,940 I do appreciate you coming here. 83 00:04:34,023 --> 00:04:36,651 -'Cause it's been very helpful to me. -Absolutely. 84 00:04:36,734 --> 00:04:40,321 -So thank you. -It's good to see you. Lovely to meet you. 85 00:04:40,405 --> 00:04:43,449 -Nice to meet you. Thank you. -Thank you guys for everything. 86 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:45,785 -Take care. -Bye! 87 00:04:45,868 --> 00:04:46,828 Okay. 88 00:04:50,373 --> 00:04:51,874 -Was that not awesome? -Yeah. 89 00:04:52,458 --> 00:04:53,918 My heart is full. 90 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:57,839 This whole thing has been very overwhelming but very exciting. 91 00:04:57,922 --> 00:05:01,926 Having that connection with Tyler, you do get a feeling of, 92 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:06,014 you have a direct connection to your lost loved one. 93 00:05:06,097 --> 00:05:09,517 It's almost kind of like they were never gone to begin with. 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,312 It's pretty incredible. 95 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:14,355 That was pretty crazy. 96 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:18,151 After doing thousands of readings and connecting to so many family stories, 97 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:21,696 it's really surreal to connect to someone who has so many similarities 98 00:05:21,779 --> 00:05:22,947 to my own family's story. 99 00:05:23,031 --> 00:05:26,409 It's possible that they on the other side orchestrated this reading to happen 100 00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:31,414 to show me that I needed to take the advice I was given and was giving. 101 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:47,889 One of my clients, he bought a ping-pong table. 102 00:05:47,972 --> 00:05:51,059 Susan Sarandon apparently popularized ping pong. 103 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:53,144 -Yeah. -That's random. 104 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,938 Very random. I'm sure it was a sport before Susan Sarandon, 105 00:05:56,022 --> 00:05:57,273 but she invested in it, 106 00:05:57,357 --> 00:05:59,650 and it, like, it took off. 107 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:01,069 Where'd you get this info? 108 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:03,154 -There's articles written about-- -Really? 109 00:06:03,237 --> 00:06:05,156 Susan Sarandon's relationship with ping-pong. 110 00:06:05,239 --> 00:06:06,741 I'm not too bad at it. 111 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:10,203 I'm not great. But I can sometimes, like-- 112 00:06:10,286 --> 00:06:13,081 -Hit the ball? -Yeah, sometimes I can hit the ball. 113 00:06:13,581 --> 00:06:16,084 I'm not renowned for my eye-hand coordination. 114 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:19,128 Mental ability, sure. Hand-eye coordination-- 115 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:20,421 -Not so much. -Not so much. 116 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:46,197 -Hello. How's it going? -Oh my goodness. 117 00:06:46,781 --> 00:06:50,785 -Tyler. How are you? Lovely to meet you. -Hello. It's a pleasure to meet you. 118 00:06:50,868 --> 00:06:52,370 -I'm Carie. -Wonderful to meet you. 119 00:06:52,453 --> 00:06:54,288 -Thank you for having me. -Of course. 120 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:56,582 -You have some stuff here. -I do. 121 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:58,459 -You came prepared. I love it. -I did. 122 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:00,753 Okay. So we'll hold on to this first. 123 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:03,172 We'll see what comes through, just in general, but… 124 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:06,426 We're gonna go all across the board. Just give me one second. 125 00:07:06,509 --> 00:07:08,094 Let's start connecting. 126 00:07:08,177 --> 00:07:09,846 We're gonna see what we get. 127 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:11,806 Pardon my forgetfulness. Your name? 128 00:07:11,889 --> 00:07:13,141 -Carie. -Carie. Okay. 129 00:07:13,224 --> 00:07:15,226 Amazing. Carie, Carie, Carie, Carie. 130 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:17,895 So we're gonna see what comes in. 131 00:07:21,899 --> 00:07:23,860 Okay. Yeah. 132 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:33,244 Yeah? 133 00:07:34,245 --> 00:07:36,372 All right. Got one, two… 134 00:07:38,124 --> 00:07:39,083 This is weird. 135 00:07:40,918 --> 00:07:45,131 The way that this is kind of hitting me is there is a reference to 136 00:07:45,214 --> 00:07:47,049 what I'd define as a tragic passing. 137 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:49,802 Tragic passings are premature. Typically not expected. 138 00:07:49,886 --> 00:07:52,638 It's when someone taken from us too soon. 139 00:07:52,722 --> 00:07:55,808 The weird thing with this is, there's two iterations of this. 140 00:07:55,892 --> 00:07:59,729 So it's like we have one person who died very young or really early, 141 00:07:59,812 --> 00:08:01,689 or under really tragic circumstances. 142 00:08:01,772 --> 00:08:04,192 Then we deal with another really tragic situation 143 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:07,153 of someone who passed away under premature circumstances. 144 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:12,450 Can you relate to two passings of people who passed away tragically and early? 145 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:13,618 -Absolutely. -Okay. 146 00:08:13,701 --> 00:08:16,913 I feel the reason I'm here is to talk about these two. 147 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:20,374 Because they're inseparable, is the way I would describe this. Okay. 148 00:08:21,709 --> 00:08:22,793 All right. 149 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:26,964 Okay, yeah. 150 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:29,967 I feel like we need to talk about your grief process 151 00:08:30,051 --> 00:08:32,512 in the context of individuals passing, 152 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:34,263 but the feeling that came through 153 00:08:34,347 --> 00:08:37,892 was a sense of not being able to grieve at the time that this happened. 154 00:08:37,975 --> 00:08:40,186 Like you had to reschedule your grief 155 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:41,687 or delay it in a big way. 156 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:45,650 It felt like this happens, and then I'm not able to go through 157 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:47,401 this natural grief process. 158 00:08:47,485 --> 00:08:48,402 It feels delayed. 159 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:52,031 We'll talk about that as far as why that could've been and all of that. 160 00:08:52,114 --> 00:08:53,449 I'm gonna keep going here. 161 00:08:56,869 --> 00:09:00,623 This isn't particularly unique, but I keep getting water symbology. 162 00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:02,124 And I don't know why. Um… 163 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:04,961 I'm seeing, like, very, um, water. 164 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:07,213 -You're-- -In a big way. Does that make sense? 165 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:09,423 -Yes. -Yeah. 166 00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:12,260 -Water is… It's all about the water. -Yeah. 167 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:17,348 Gonna keep going. Oh, a lot coming in here. 168 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:23,020 I don't know what that means. There's that, that… 169 00:09:25,898 --> 00:09:26,732 Um… 170 00:09:26,816 --> 00:09:30,695 I'm gonna try to handle this as best I can. 171 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:34,532 The younger of the two keeps bringing up Christmas. 172 00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:37,410 Keep seeing Christmas symbology, Christmas lights, Christmas… 173 00:09:37,493 --> 00:09:41,080 But it's more than a kid who likes Christmas. There's something here. 174 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:46,711 The accident happened just a few days after Christmas. 175 00:09:46,794 --> 00:09:49,505 -Yeah. -It was our last celebration. 176 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:53,384 It, it… In the way this comes across, being put positively, very happy, 177 00:09:53,467 --> 00:09:56,804 but I can tell it's kind of a bittersweet time of year. 178 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:58,389 I'm gonna keep going. 179 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,603 For some reason, an extraordinary amount of emphasis is being put on you, 180 00:10:03,686 --> 00:10:06,856 as to what you had to do, both before the passings 181 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:08,899 but then afterwards. 182 00:10:10,234 --> 00:10:12,778 So there's a feeling of gratitude around that. 183 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:14,697 It's really interesting. 184 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:17,450 -I'm a single mother. -Okay, amazing. 185 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:20,328 Without giving too much away, when we talk about two passings 186 00:10:20,411 --> 00:10:23,956 that would have happened in what feels like under two years, 187 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,083 who would those be for you? 188 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:28,127 My daughters. 189 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:32,423 I had three wonderful daughters. 190 00:10:33,924 --> 00:10:35,885 Morgan was 25. 191 00:10:36,385 --> 00:10:38,804 Summer and Sawyer were 12 years old. 192 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:43,601 I have twins. Sawyer was definitely the boss of the two girls. 193 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:47,063 She liked to call the shots. Summer was happy to go along with her. 194 00:10:47,146 --> 00:10:48,814 What was neat about Morgan and I, 195 00:10:48,898 --> 00:10:50,941 when she became a grown woman, 196 00:10:51,025 --> 00:10:54,320 she became not only my daughter but my friend. 197 00:10:54,403 --> 00:10:57,156 She was very involved in the twins' life. 198 00:10:57,239 --> 00:11:01,994 But on January 9th, 2018, 199 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:06,290 I lost my daughter Sawyer and my daughter Morgan. 200 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:10,002 There used to be four of us. Our house was filled with laughter 201 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:13,839 and noise and excitement and energy. 202 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:16,342 And now it's very quiet. 203 00:11:16,425 --> 00:11:21,222 It's filled with a young girl and a mother who are 204 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:26,185 so broken and just trying to cope every day. 205 00:11:27,853 --> 00:11:29,438 A feeling of confusion. 206 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,149 I just felt confused, is the only way to describe it. 207 00:11:32,233 --> 00:11:36,320 When people pass away in car accidents, usually there's not confusion. 208 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:38,531 -Right. -It's not striking me that way. 209 00:11:38,614 --> 00:11:40,491 What strikes me is this feeling of 210 00:11:40,574 --> 00:11:43,327 immediately having to make a split-second decision. 211 00:11:43,411 --> 00:11:46,580 What do we do? Where do we go? What's happening? And it happens. 212 00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:47,915 -Yes. -Just like that. 213 00:11:47,998 --> 00:11:50,251 And so it's not like, uh… 214 00:11:51,836 --> 00:11:56,132 Whoo! This is very complicated, is the only way to describe it. Uh… 215 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:57,925 -Chaos. -Yeah, absolutely. 216 00:11:58,008 --> 00:11:59,385 -It was chaos. -Pandemonium. 217 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:00,720 -Yes. -Um… 218 00:12:02,138 --> 00:12:03,597 Hmm. That's strange. 219 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,685 Uh, there's some things that should be here but are not. 220 00:12:07,768 --> 00:12:09,019 And they are objects. 221 00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:11,814 So this is kinda weird. There should be more. 222 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:13,482 There's something weird here. 223 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:17,319 I kinda wonder if either… if something happened 224 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:20,197 that got rid of a lot of the objects we'd normally have. 225 00:12:20,281 --> 00:12:21,949 -Everything. -Yes. 226 00:12:22,032 --> 00:12:24,243 We lost everything. 227 00:12:24,326 --> 00:12:25,369 I'm so sorry. 228 00:12:29,707 --> 00:12:31,292 The way this comes across, 229 00:12:31,375 --> 00:12:34,128 they're having me talk about the day that this happened. 230 00:12:34,211 --> 00:12:36,297 They're having me talk about where it happened. 231 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:39,508 Um, it looks like it… 232 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:42,303 The way I'd describe it, I see destruction. 233 00:12:42,386 --> 00:12:45,890 -There's, like, large-scale damage. -Yes. 234 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:48,184 -In addition to these passings. -Yes. 235 00:12:48,684 --> 00:12:50,811 I'm interested to talk about what happened. 236 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:53,773 I've never had anything come through this way. Feels like… 237 00:12:54,648 --> 00:12:57,276 The closest thing I can come to it is like, when, um… 238 00:12:57,359 --> 00:12:59,737 I had someone who died in a landslide. 239 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:02,072 Felt very similar. It felt like… 240 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:05,868 Very quick. Uh, does that make any sense? 241 00:13:05,951 --> 00:13:08,329 -Yes. -I'm sorry. 242 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:13,709 Man. Man, man, man. Okay. 243 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:20,716 Yeah. This is so hard to explain 'cause I'm not certain of what this is. 244 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,928 My best interpretation is there would've been a conversation 245 00:13:24,011 --> 00:13:27,765 in the days leading up to this passing or moments leading up to this passing 246 00:13:27,848 --> 00:13:29,850 of, like, what we need to do. 247 00:13:30,893 --> 00:13:34,021 But then just doesn't happen fast enough. And I-- 248 00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:37,358 Yes. There were conversations prior to this accident. 249 00:13:37,441 --> 00:13:39,693 Of, "We gotta do something. What do we do?" 250 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:41,445 -Yes. -It's really weird. 251 00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:42,488 Um… 252 00:13:42,571 --> 00:13:43,781 I want to be very clear. 253 00:13:43,864 --> 00:13:46,325 Neither of them give me any feelings of any pain. 254 00:13:46,408 --> 00:13:49,203 -Really? -I've done readings where I'd tell people 255 00:13:49,286 --> 00:13:51,705 if someone was hurting. I don't get that feeling. 256 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:56,836 This happened so quick. I feel like I leave my body before I feel anything. 257 00:13:56,919 --> 00:13:57,753 Okay. 258 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,799 It feels like they want to release you of any feelings of guilt, 259 00:14:01,882 --> 00:14:04,343 accountability, "should have done this over that." 260 00:14:04,426 --> 00:14:07,721 Even though there were discussions previously, like, what to do. 261 00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:10,891 -A decision to make. -Yeah, no one could have known 262 00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,518 what was gonna happen. 263 00:14:12,601 --> 00:14:14,395 Right, and at this point, 264 00:14:15,145 --> 00:14:17,982 I wanna go to, however extent you're comfortable sharing, 265 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:20,651 what happened, and, you know? 266 00:14:20,734 --> 00:14:21,735 Well. 267 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,405 Um… 268 00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:26,657 It was the Montecito mudslide. 269 00:14:27,741 --> 00:14:30,661 And, um, 23 people died. 270 00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:32,204 Two of them were my children. 271 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:37,960 Torrential downpours have unleashed a deadly wave of flooding and mudslides. 272 00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:41,755 This morning, crews are racing against time, looking for survivors, 273 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:45,718 and new images are revealing staggering devastation. 274 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:50,639 The night before the mudslide, this big storm was coming. 275 00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:53,851 Part of Montecito was evacuated, and part of it was not. 276 00:14:53,934 --> 00:14:55,144 I was not evacuated. 277 00:14:55,227 --> 00:14:56,061 Right. 278 00:14:56,562 --> 00:15:00,024 But the decision was to stay or to go. 279 00:15:00,107 --> 00:15:02,234 I put them to bed and said, "Don't be scared." 280 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:04,612 "When you hear the rain, don't be afraid." 281 00:15:05,195 --> 00:15:07,823 That's the last time I saw my daughter Sawyer. 282 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:08,782 Wow. 283 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:14,163 And then the torrential downpour came and… 284 00:15:16,123 --> 00:15:20,544 3:30 in the morning, our house exploded with all of us in it. 285 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:27,259 Morgan and I were holding on to each other in the water, 286 00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:32,514 in the mud, and it was going about 80 miles an hour. 287 00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:34,767 We were all completely separated. 288 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:36,894 And… 289 00:15:38,312 --> 00:15:41,523 I broke almost every bone in my body from the waist up. 290 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:42,983 I was barely alive. 291 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,486 I was lucky enough that I was buried in the mud. 292 00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:48,948 This much of my face was sticking out, that I could scream for help. 293 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:53,285 And, I don't really remember anything after that for a few days. 294 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:56,497 My daughter Summer, who is a survivor, 295 00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:59,833 by the time they found her, she was buried ten feet under the mud, 296 00:15:59,917 --> 00:16:03,128 with pieces of houses and cars piled on top of her. 297 00:16:03,712 --> 00:16:05,506 They were lucky enough to find her, 298 00:16:05,589 --> 00:16:08,008 but she was in a coma after that for a few weeks. 299 00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:10,219 We didn't know that she was going to survive either. 300 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:11,720 -Wow. -And… 301 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,932 We didn't find Sawyer till next morning and she was gone. 302 00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:17,518 We didn't find Morgan for five days. 303 00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:20,104 I mean, I, um… 304 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:25,275 I tried to save my oldest daughter, and I couldn't save her. 305 00:16:26,735 --> 00:16:29,363 -Yeah. Yeah. 306 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:36,787 Yeah. 307 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,094 Phew. Uh… 308 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:55,556 I'll take one minute. I'm so sorry. 309 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:59,226 If you've seen all these readings I do, I never get emotional, 310 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:01,520 but that's just… My heart goes out to you. 311 00:17:01,603 --> 00:17:03,147 -Thank you. -I'm so sorry. 312 00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,900 -It's been horrible. -Yeah. Such a tragic thing. 313 00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:09,403 For anybody to have to go through that is just… 314 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:13,657 To be able to wake up the next morning, after that and continue with your life. 315 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:17,578 The amount of strength that you had to display and have to display, 316 00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:20,706 just to get up in the morning, has to be huge. 317 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:22,666 So my heart goes out to you for that. 318 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:24,001 -Thank you. -Yeah. 319 00:17:24,501 --> 00:17:25,586 I'm gonna scribble. 320 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:28,630 I'm gonna reconnect to this, gonna put my emotions to the side here, 321 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,967 and just delve in and see what else we get here, so. 322 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:35,304 But I, I love the joyfulness that comes through with them. 323 00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:38,265 The thing that comes through, they are having me acknowledge 324 00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:40,684 three separate forms of being honored. 325 00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:42,019 -Yeah. -Three separate. 326 00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:44,480 -Are you aware of that? Love that. -Yes. 327 00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,649 -In the way it comes through. -About three-and-a-half years ago. 328 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,861 There has been an event every year to celebrate them. 329 00:17:50,944 --> 00:17:54,198 I love that. Associated with this, there's something very special 330 00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:58,118 about honoring their names in a much bigger way. 331 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:01,955 Think of this as something that would be more attributed to a place. 332 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,917 I'm seeing it in like a plaque kind of representation 333 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,211 and a feeling of excitement around this. 334 00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:08,670 There are a few plaques… 335 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,631 -Cool. -…already in existence. 336 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:14,093 -More like a memorial, I would say. -Right. 337 00:18:14,176 --> 00:18:18,847 One of the memorials, I had them print one of my daughter's poems on it. 338 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:19,807 I love that. 339 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:25,562 One of the big messages that comes through is wanting there to be release of guilt 340 00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:30,317 as to why they would have been there. I get the symbol of letting something go. 341 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,196 It's always their way of not wanting to have someone hold on 342 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,156 to the coulda, shoulda, woulda. 343 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,326 What if I'd done something differently? Very much this feeling of, 344 00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:40,786 "Mom, it's okay." 345 00:18:42,871 --> 00:18:45,791 Tyler has opened doors for me today 346 00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:50,796 that I didn't think were available to me. 347 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:55,217 To be sitting in this creek, 348 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,804 and feel a sense of 349 00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:01,765 happiness and joy, 350 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,059 is nothing I ever thought I would feel. 351 00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:10,274 To be able to find some joy in tragedy 352 00:19:10,357 --> 00:19:13,610 is always something that I'm personally looking for. 353 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:15,821 I want to love this place again. 354 00:19:15,904 --> 00:19:18,949 I want to love this creek again, and Tyler gave me that gift. 355 00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:35,966 So we're going to Laguna Beach? 356 00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:37,217 Along the coastline. 357 00:19:37,301 --> 00:19:41,180 Which should be really beautiful, once you meet with Laurie Campbell today. 358 00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:44,349 It will be really interesting to meet another medium. 359 00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:47,477 I have been read by a medium before. Quite a few. 360 00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:50,355 I've had varying experiences of validity. 361 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:53,025 Some have been extraordinary. Others have been mundane. 362 00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:55,110 It's finding the one that works for you. 363 00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:59,823 -Interesting to see what she gets. -I'm excited. I can't even tell you. 364 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:03,076 I kept looking at my clock. "Is it time to get up yet?" 365 00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,705 Is that how people feel when they're gonna meet you? 366 00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:09,833 -Weird having the tables turned on me. -Yeah. 367 00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:12,002 I'm so connected to my family's story, 368 00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:14,296 in the sense that it runs through my veins. 369 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:17,007 So I have implicit bias, 370 00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:19,635 which impedes me from being able to connect intuitively. 371 00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:22,846 Getting read by a medium will mean that information could come through 372 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,390 from someone detached from myself, 373 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:28,352 who might be able to give me the answers I'm looking for. 374 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:36,318 -How beautiful this is. -Yes. 375 00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:38,737 -You guys wanna have a seat? -Yeah. We can do it. 376 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:39,863 We're excited. 377 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:43,283 No, you! I'm, like, sitting here going like… 378 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:46,453 When I turned, it's like I heard you. I was like, "My God. They're here!" 379 00:20:46,536 --> 00:20:47,955 I trust Laurie Campbell. 380 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:51,875 Going to her, my hope is she will give insight into this family mystery. 381 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:54,920 She's one of the few I would trust with such a sensitive thing. 382 00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,297 I think the likelihood is very high 383 00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:59,383 that she'll provide answers to the questions we have. 384 00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:01,009 Um… 385 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:05,889 Prior to your visit, I was able to make some notes of things coming through. 386 00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:09,309 They kept talking about health. Health was the first thing I got with you. 387 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:13,146 And when I look at the heart, it's like a palpitation. 388 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:14,690 Any palpitations? 389 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:16,650 I had a underdeveloped heart when I was born 390 00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:18,944 I've had palpitations throughout my life. 391 00:21:19,027 --> 00:21:22,114 Well, it's interesting. Your lungs felt more like, um, 392 00:21:22,197 --> 00:21:25,617 somebody who has had either bronchitis, pneumonia or an asthma. 393 00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,787 Yeah. My lungs are covered with these things called blebs. 394 00:21:29,371 --> 00:21:31,999 When they pop, they cause collapsed lungs. 395 00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:33,750 So I've had surgery for it. 396 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,128 -Collapsed lung. -There's a risk of reoccurrence. 397 00:21:36,211 --> 00:21:38,588 Something for the rest of my life I'm gonna have to deal with. 398 00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:40,173 -That you're very aware of. -Vigilant. 399 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:43,176 You have doctors for. You just need to be careful with that. 400 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:45,053 -Thank you. -Interesting. Yeah. 401 00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:52,102 I get a lot of… I always comb strange details. 402 00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:55,689 I wrote down a few names. You don't recognize them, it's fine. 403 00:21:55,772 --> 00:21:58,108 What I wrote down was Joseph. 404 00:21:59,276 --> 00:22:01,528 I didn't know if it's Joe or Joseph. 405 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:06,450 My mom's side of the family. Her father's name, we believe, is Joseph. 406 00:22:08,201 --> 00:22:10,037 I'm hoping Laurie can get me insight 407 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,581 into the emotions behind what happened to my mom. 408 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:16,668 For the other side of it, I contacted an investigative genealogist. 409 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:20,255 She's an expert in DNA analysis and family tracing. 410 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,425 If anyone can track down the missing pieces, it's her. 411 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:27,429 Well, you guys definitely gave me a challenge. 412 00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:32,768 It initially appeared as though Joe Cowart was your biological father 413 00:22:32,851 --> 00:22:34,519 because your DNA. 414 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:37,439 And Joe Cowart is deceased. 415 00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:39,775 So I don't want to say something, 416 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,943 and then turn around, and it's wrong. 417 00:22:42,611 --> 00:22:45,906 After working the DNA extensively, 418 00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:49,117 Joe Cowart is absolutely your birth father. 419 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,369 Wow, okay. 420 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:53,663 I tried to find out as much as I could about Joe. 421 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:54,706 -His life. -Thank you. 422 00:22:54,790 --> 00:23:00,045 What I was told about Joe is that he was a redheaded guy. 423 00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:03,507 I know that he was in the military. 424 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:06,426 -He served, I believe, in two wars. -Wow. 425 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:09,429 He lived by himself. 426 00:23:09,513 --> 00:23:12,974 He would get his meals from the church. He would go and eat. 427 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:16,603 -So he was living a subdued, quiet life. -Right. 428 00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:21,483 And actually the way that they, you know, realized something was wrong 429 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:24,152 was he stopped going to the church for a week. 430 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:28,073 And they actually had the fire department break into his house 431 00:23:28,156 --> 00:23:30,659 and found that he had passed away. 432 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,494 Interesting. I didn't know that. 433 00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:33,912 -That's amazing. -Wow. 434 00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:37,165 I would've never known. Thank you. 435 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:42,879 You're welcome. I think your top DNA match Debbie thinks that she has some photos. 436 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,798 She's going to look for those. 437 00:23:44,881 --> 00:23:47,259 And then we have cousin Bruce, 438 00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,178 who's a first cousin, who was adorable. 439 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:53,432 He was like, "If I got another cousin, I want to know about it." 440 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:54,474 "Have her call me." 441 00:23:54,558 --> 00:23:55,934 -So he was-- -Thank you. 442 00:23:56,017 --> 00:23:58,645 He was really… I've got to be honest. He was excited. 443 00:23:58,728 --> 00:24:00,105 He was excited. 444 00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:01,398 -Makes me happy. -Sweet. 445 00:24:01,481 --> 00:24:02,774 Does it? Yeah. 446 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:04,901 It's nice to feel wanted. 447 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:08,905 And it's nice to feel the endearingness that you're telling me about. 448 00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:10,031 Look, I mean this… 449 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:12,075 These are your blood relatives. 450 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,953 So it would be really cool for you to get to know them. 451 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:15,871 Yes. 452 00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:18,498 But I did bring an object. 453 00:24:18,582 --> 00:24:20,876 You can hold on to it. You don't have to. 454 00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:22,961 It's wonderful. 455 00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:31,178 I saw, like, a nurse right away. Um… 456 00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:37,601 With your, um, biological mother, 457 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:40,645 why would it be like you were taken out of her arms? 458 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,772 Because I was. At the hospital. 459 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,941 -The lady who took me from my mother. -Who? 460 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,026 Her name is Stella. 461 00:24:46,109 --> 00:24:48,445 Okay. 'Cause that's just like, "Oh man." 462 00:24:49,946 --> 00:24:52,199 Did she ever lock you guys in a closet? 463 00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:55,076 -She did everything. -Or in a room, not let you out? 464 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,703 I feel dirty. I feel squalor. 465 00:24:56,786 --> 00:24:59,873 -I feel just being left inside. -Yes. 466 00:24:59,956 --> 00:25:04,127 I feel like when a child is extremely lonely and just cut off. 467 00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:05,378 That's how it feels. 468 00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:11,718 So, um, one of the children that this woman raised was locked in the closet. 469 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:17,474 Was one of the children a different ethnic background than you? 470 00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:18,892 -Yes. -Okay. 471 00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,436 I wanted to ask about the original birth certificate. 472 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,648 -I know we had difficulty obtaining that. -Yes. 473 00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:26,816 Did we make any strides there or is it-- 474 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,945 If you look at the filing dates, and you look at everything, 475 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:33,156 it looks like that is the original birth certificate. 476 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,326 I believe Mary filled it out, and she put down the address. 477 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:37,911 I think it was Felicia Street. 478 00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:40,205 -Felicity Street. Yeah. -Felicity Street. 479 00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:42,832 And you know, when I saw that, I was like, 480 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:46,836 "You could see when it came to Stella." 481 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,631 Stella is the mother. Where was she born? "Unknown." 482 00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:51,550 How do you not know where you were born? 483 00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:52,551 -Right. -Right. 484 00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:57,055 I feel like the person that took you, 485 00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:58,473 I think she's a con woman. 486 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:02,227 And so your mother and your grandma just thought 487 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:05,564 that the lady was taking the baby back to the nursery. 488 00:26:05,647 --> 00:26:08,984 But this is what I wanna, um, say about that. 489 00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:14,114 There's something when somebody has a child, and it's not wanted, 490 00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:15,907 and they just discard. 491 00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:19,244 There is another thing to when somebody has a child, 492 00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:22,622 and there's really great affection and love there, 493 00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:25,041 but they're not able to keep that child. 494 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,252 You came from not the first one. 495 00:26:27,335 --> 00:26:28,587 You came from the second. 496 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,797 When somebody loves you deeply. 497 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,134 But they cannot care or cannot keep you. 498 00:26:34,217 --> 00:26:36,511 Sometimes we have to let go out of love. 499 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,098 Not because we want to, but because we have to. 500 00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:44,769 Now it's about the new journey that's gonna begin for you. 501 00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:45,895 Yeah. 502 00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:47,522 -Wow. -That was a trip. 503 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,190 That was wild, Tyler. 504 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:50,900 Having the tables turned on me. 505 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,528 -My gosh. What a gift we were given. -I know. 506 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,948 What surprised me the most was that she, you kn-- 507 00:26:57,032 --> 00:27:01,328 She knew that my mother gave me away because she did it out of love. 508 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:03,330 It wasn't because she didn't love me. 509 00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,498 And that she wanted what was best for me. 510 00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:08,126 And that's, that's… 511 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,629 …healing. It's healing. 512 00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:12,297 Yeah. It is. 513 00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:29,397 Go get it. 514 00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:33,943 I'm a huge fan of Tyler's. 515 00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:37,656 I decided to write into his website because someone had just passed away, 516 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,617 and I wanted to find a way to connect with him. 517 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,537 -Hi, Tyler. -Hi. 518 00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:46,498 This is Penelope. 519 00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:48,458 Oh, hi, Penelope. 520 00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:49,542 Hey. 521 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,045 Oh, hey little baby. 522 00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:55,006 -How's it going? Lovely to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 523 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,675 Good to meet you. Thank you for having me. 524 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:57,717 Yeah. Thank you. 525 00:27:57,801 --> 00:27:59,427 This is really cool. 526 00:28:00,428 --> 00:28:02,263 I'm gonna get a little snuggle in. 527 00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,599 Then we're gonna start the reading. 528 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:05,975 -All right. -Oh. 529 00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:07,727 Oh, what a cutie. 530 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,695 Precious. 531 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,866 Okay. You, you, you. 532 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,661 It's kind of interesting, in the way this comes across. 533 00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,915 I feel like I have to talk about somebody who lost a pet. 534 00:28:28,998 --> 00:28:31,042 I keep getting acknowledgments of, like, 535 00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:34,629 I was getting this childlike energy, but then I was like, "This is an animal." 536 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,464 -I'm gonna keep that in mind. -Okay. 537 00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:39,884 I mean, I will say this. 538 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,554 Animals come through in readings sometimes, but, uh… 539 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,223 not to this extent. 540 00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,392 -So it's very intense. -Yes. 541 00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:49,269 In the way it comes across. 542 00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:52,522 -Definitely have a feeling of a pet. -Yep. 543 00:28:53,648 --> 00:28:55,525 There's a tragic feeling around that. 544 00:28:57,819 --> 00:29:01,030 That's interesting. So I'm gonna put that to the side. 545 00:29:05,118 --> 00:29:08,788 Okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. There, there, there. 546 00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:13,126 There's a contemporary reference that comes through. 547 00:29:13,209 --> 00:29:15,837 -Yes. -Um, a friend, a partner. 548 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,589 -Yes. -That kind of vibe. 549 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:19,799 -That comes through. Make sense? -Yes. 550 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:22,343 Huh. 551 00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:25,138 They're having me joke about misspelling your name. 552 00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:26,806 This is weird, I know. 553 00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:30,393 I don't know why, but it's very specific. Like, it's not "J." It's "Y." 554 00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:32,353 How do you spell your name? 555 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,522 -Y-A-S-M-I-N-E. -Okay. 556 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:38,693 -There's a funniness around that. -Okay. If this is who I think it is… 557 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,738 It's… He would make jokes with my name. 558 00:29:41,821 --> 00:29:45,742 Like, he would be like, "Jasmine or Yaz or whatever." 559 00:29:45,825 --> 00:29:48,203 -It's like I have to make fun of it. -Funny guy. 560 00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:51,247 It's interesting in the way it comes across. It's silly. 561 00:29:53,541 --> 00:29:56,503 Then there is a feeling of excitement from this individual. 562 00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:57,462 I feel excited. 563 00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,465 -Comes across as a character. -He is a character. 564 00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:01,758 Definitely a character. 565 00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:04,969 He's showing me a lot of random things that I wasn't aware of. 566 00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:08,139 Like people eating Hot Cheetos out of a bag. 567 00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,308 -Really weird random things. -Oh my gosh. 568 00:30:10,391 --> 00:30:12,811 Joking about that. When your fingers get gross. 569 00:30:12,894 --> 00:30:15,688 -With the red, but I'm like… -Yes. 570 00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:18,149 -So, we… 571 00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:22,362 I guess in high school, I ate a lot of junk food. 572 00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,949 So, I don't know. 573 00:30:26,032 --> 00:30:31,037 We have this ongoing joke about just red fingers and Hot Cheetos. 574 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,705 -It was random. -Yeah. 575 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:36,292 It's funny 'cause I'm talking about residue on my hands. I'm like… 576 00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:38,461 -Working through it. Random. -That's him. 577 00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:39,963 That is funny. 578 00:30:40,046 --> 00:30:45,260 I was… I think 13 when I met David. 579 00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,513 I don't think I had a choice. He would start making fun of me. 580 00:30:48,596 --> 00:30:50,974 Like, he was very playful and, like, 581 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,810 would just tease me all the time. 582 00:30:53,893 --> 00:30:56,980 Just a big brother, like, we just were super close. 583 00:30:57,063 --> 00:31:00,275 He's happy you're here. I can tell that. 584 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:03,528 I'm trying to figure out what happened. Because, um… 585 00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:04,487 Mm-hmm. 586 00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:07,782 It's just a weird thing. It's a weird situation. 587 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,910 I basically feel like, I… He's not showing any pain when he passed. 588 00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,037 Like I'm here, and then I'm gone. Um… 589 00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:16,833 He showed me the symbology of, like, closing my eyes and passing away. 590 00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:20,003 -That's really weird. I don't… Yeah. -Yeah, it was very quick. 591 00:31:20,503 --> 00:31:26,634 He had smoked a joint of weed that had fentanyl in it. 592 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:29,345 And I believe that is what killed him instantly. 593 00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:30,388 That would fit. 594 00:31:31,097 --> 00:31:32,265 Thank you for sharing. 595 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,350 -Somebody who was not suicidal. -No. 596 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:38,104 Very much excited for life. And then just passes. 597 00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:40,440 I think there's going to be awareness around that, 598 00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:42,233 and the possibility it can happen, 599 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:45,987 that I think people around him will endorse or support to say, 600 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,781 "Hey, let's make sure we know what we're ingesting." 601 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,491 That kind of thing. 602 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:54,454 -Overall, he's okay and at peace, and…? -Yeah, all good. 603 00:31:54,537 --> 00:31:55,622 Comes through all good. 604 00:31:57,707 --> 00:31:58,833 Okay. 605 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:04,297 Gonna put him to the side really quick because I have other stuff coming in. 606 00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:07,342 Okay, this now. 607 00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:09,469 Keep going back to the pet thing. 608 00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,179 -Um… -Mm-hmm. 609 00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:15,808 What's interesting is that little one might notice this little one, 610 00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,602 in the way this comes across. 611 00:32:17,685 --> 00:32:21,397 This is good to keep in mind. They are making a distinct connection. 612 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,441 -Mm-hmm. -It's strange. 613 00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,944 That little one might either… 614 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,572 like do the same things or have similarities. 615 00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:33,159 They're bringing this distinct feeling of, like, similar, in some way. 616 00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:37,664 Um, so it's actually interesting even in where the animal might lay down, 617 00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:40,124 or have an affinity for laying or sitting. 618 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:41,918 There's a parallel being drawn there. 619 00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:43,211 Yep. Exactly. 620 00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,630 -You've noticed this before? -Totally noticed. 621 00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:49,300 Gotcha. 'Cause it does feel like it's something almost sweet. 622 00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:51,302 -In the way it comes across. -Yeah. 623 00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:54,472 I'll ask you point-blank. Who's this connected to? 624 00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:57,100 -My dog who passed away. -Yes. 625 00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:02,522 His name was Astro. And he was the love of my life. 626 00:33:02,605 --> 00:33:03,982 Yes. Yes, yes. 627 00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:05,984 Okay, I've done now hundreds of these. 628 00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:08,486 I've never had a pet come through as the first thing. 629 00:33:08,569 --> 00:33:11,823 I'm focusing on people who were human in life. 630 00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:13,992 -Yeah. -But this is very much a big thing. 631 00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:15,994 -Very big -I just want you to know today. 632 00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:18,287 It's important that that comes through. 633 00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:19,998 -About the pet. -Yeah. 634 00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:25,628 Well, I will say with this little one, and I do have to bring up… 635 00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:31,384 There's something here with this one where I feel like if they hadn't passed 636 00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:32,927 of what they passed of, 637 00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,180 there's something else, medically, that comes up for me. 638 00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,683 A susceptibility that this animal would have had. 639 00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:41,686 That could have transitioned it anyway. 640 00:33:43,271 --> 00:33:49,318 We were aware, or we had this issue with him and his breathing. 641 00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:53,364 We noticed that he would want to play, play, play, 642 00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,575 just normal, puppy behavior. 643 00:33:55,658 --> 00:33:59,537 And we'd have to take toys away 'cause he'd get so worked up. 644 00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:00,997 So out of breath. 645 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,625 -We'd isolate him without his toys. -Right. 646 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:07,503 That was why we decided to, like, 647 00:34:07,587 --> 00:34:11,758 see what our options were, as far as getting that fixed for him. 648 00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:15,386 -Sure. -And he was in surgery… 649 00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:16,721 -Right. -…when he passed. 650 00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,347 -Yeah. -And… 651 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:21,559 It seems like the secondary thing just came out of nowhere. 652 00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:22,894 -Yeah. -It's interesting. 653 00:34:22,977 --> 00:34:27,523 Don't feel like they would've been able to live long with that initial thing anyway. 654 00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:30,026 I feel like part of the message here is, like, 655 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:34,697 despite how tragic that was, and horrific in the sense of the timing, 656 00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:37,533 this animal was already on the decline of its life. 657 00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:40,828 And we were very aware of that. 658 00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:44,082 And we kind of were just like, "What do we do?" 659 00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:46,667 -Yeah. Yeah. -And that validates that, for sure. 660 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,586 It's an interesting and sad thing. 661 00:34:48,669 --> 00:34:51,297 We do things trying to help our animals but… 662 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:54,133 Nature sometimes, it just goes that direction, 663 00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,385 but I get very much a sense of peace. 664 00:34:57,553 --> 00:35:01,057 This loss was very hard on me because I felt so attached to him, 665 00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,644 and he was like more of, like, a son than like a dog. 666 00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:06,479 He was like my kid. 667 00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:09,899 -Of course. -Thank you. 668 00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,068 Tyler, this was amazing. 669 00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:15,113 I am so glad we got to talk, and it's been a beautiful day. 670 00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,406 It's been an experience of a lifetime. 671 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:20,493 I'm very grateful that you share this gift with everyone. 672 00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:22,203 I wouldn't have missed it. 673 00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:24,580 -Take care. Lovely to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 674 00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:34,215 Nanci! Hey! 675 00:35:35,007 --> 00:35:36,175 Aw! 676 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:40,221 I believe that anything with sentience has the ability to come through. 677 00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:43,224 In readings, when I refer to animals that have passed, 678 00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:46,269 it's not that the dog is coming through barking necessarily, 679 00:35:46,352 --> 00:35:50,773 as much as the essence that once embodied that animal is continued. 680 00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:56,320 So in readings, while I tend to connect to the souls or the essence of something 681 00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,656 that occupied a human body, sometimes the same will happen 682 00:35:58,739 --> 00:36:00,575 for things that occupied an animal body. 683 00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:03,619 It's really not that different. We are part of the animal kingdom. 684 00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:08,457 I swear, I think pets get more separated, or more attached when they're separated. 685 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:09,792 -Yeah. -Right. 686 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,547 And also when you spend a lot of time with them, like, one-on-one. 687 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:17,550 She's gotten a lot more attached to me while you were gone. 688 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:19,218 Has she been more well behaved? 689 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:21,179 -No. Absolutely not. 690 00:36:22,054 --> 00:36:25,474 Not surprised. All right, missus. Oh! 691 00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,477 You're big on the hugs. 692 00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,980 -She loves hugs. 693 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:49,207 We are, looks like only a couple minutes away from the Tea Room. 694 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,209 I used to do so many readings there. 695 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:55,254 -In the alley. Yeah. -You mentioned that before. 696 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:58,507 While in Hanford, I'm gonna meet with the owners of the tea shop 697 00:36:58,591 --> 00:36:59,926 where I used to do readings. 698 00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:02,678 I promised Steve and Arianne a reading years ago, 699 00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:06,766 and unfortunately, went to LA before I got the chance to fulfill that promise. 700 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:08,726 So I'm back. 701 00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:11,771 -Hi, Tyler! -Hey, Tyler! 702 00:37:11,854 --> 00:37:15,274 Last time I saw them, I was a teenager. It's bizarre. 703 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:17,777 -We'll go look at the alley. -China Alley. 704 00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:19,487 -Amazing. -Oh, I love it. 705 00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:20,947 From the ages of 16 to 18, 706 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:24,075 I was doing readings out of the L.T. Sue Tea Room. 707 00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:26,744 The Imperial Dynasty Cocktail Lounge. 708 00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:29,664 -Oh wow. -It's so beautiful. So ornate. 709 00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:32,625 I'd meet with upwards of eight clients a day there. 710 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:35,461 I was spending my full day in China Alley. 711 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,882 I would've never thought I'd be where I am today. 712 00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:43,719 Going back, I, for a long time, thought I would spend my whole life there. 713 00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:46,430 -Wanna see your favorite booth? -I'd love to. 714 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,392 -I would alternate between them. -These were the booths? 715 00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:52,979 Here people started noticing me more. I preferred the one in the alley. 716 00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:55,481 People would come in, like, "I want a reading." 717 00:37:55,564 --> 00:37:56,482 Then I'd be like… 718 00:37:56,565 --> 00:38:00,444 He would get so interrupted all the time because he was our local celebrity. 719 00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,904 -You're sweet. -Yes! 720 00:38:02,488 --> 00:38:05,449 I have this today. What you'll see is me scribble. 721 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:06,993 It's just how I tune in. 722 00:38:07,076 --> 00:38:08,035 We remember. 723 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,578 -Yeah! -Scribble, scribble. 724 00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:12,123 People would walk in. They'd be like, "What's he doing?" 725 00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:14,041 "Sketching people?" Then they'd cry, 726 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,210 so they knew it wasn't that. 727 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,587 But, yes. So I'm gonna scribble. 728 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:21,340 And we will see. Just give me one sec. 729 00:38:22,925 --> 00:38:23,843 Okay. 730 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,640 There's a mother figure coming in. Is your mom passed? 731 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,769 Yeah. I'm getting a lot of imagery around excitement. 732 00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:36,522 The feeling of joy, but a feeling of compiling. 733 00:38:36,605 --> 00:38:38,107 Like I'm compiling notes. 734 00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:41,694 I think she saved things where we're like, "What in the world?" 735 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:43,029 So let me describe this 736 00:38:43,112 --> 00:38:46,657 because I'm sure there's a lot of valuable documents, valuable stories, 737 00:38:46,741 --> 00:38:48,576 but you're gonna find stuff, like, 738 00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:51,245 "Ma'am, why do we have this from 40 years ago?" 739 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,413 It's a newspaper. 740 00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:55,249 -What was the significance-- -She just died two months ago. 741 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,044 -I'm sorry. It was recently. Yeah. -It was a… 742 00:38:58,127 --> 00:39:01,339 And I've been going through her stuff to… 743 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:05,426 She didn't have a computer, so everything's like that. 744 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:07,887 -Right. I believe it. -And, um… 745 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:10,723 I'm trying to decipher all of her things, 746 00:39:10,806 --> 00:39:12,808 and it's like, why was this important to you? 747 00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:14,685 Then there are some artifacts 748 00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:18,856 that I'm going to be donating to the Taoist Temple Museum. 749 00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:21,108 -Amazing. -Because they belong there. 750 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:23,361 Not in a box with Mom's stuff. 751 00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:26,739 My mother was one of the leading preservationists 752 00:39:26,822 --> 00:39:28,824 and docents of China Alley. 753 00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,869 She spent a lot of her hours working in the Temple Museum 754 00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:33,537 and giving tours. 755 00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:37,166 She would give a tour to anyone that wanted to take a look. 756 00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:43,547 -When we talk about the temple… -Mm-hmm. 757 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:47,385 …there's an aspect that comes through. I'm trying to figure out if it's there. 758 00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:50,638 But there's gonna be a need for what looks like, um… 759 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,808 Like a form of a remodeling situation, but it's only on one part. 760 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:56,435 Have we had inspectors look at the building? 761 00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,356 -Make sure we're good there? -We have a staircase in the garden 762 00:40:00,439 --> 00:40:04,902 that needs to be repaired, and it's kinda… rotting. 763 00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:07,530 Sagging. Doing all those things. 764 00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,825 -And her mom-- -That was one of her last things. 765 00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:13,119 Was to make sure that gets taken care of. 766 00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:14,161 Yeah, yeah. 767 00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:18,040 It's also showing me avoiding anything fire-related. 768 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,584 It's weird. Anything, like… 769 00:40:20,668 --> 00:40:21,710 That's strange. 770 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,797 Seeing, like, "Avoid heat." I don't know what that is. 771 00:40:26,882 --> 00:40:30,344 Um, do you know of any significant house fires or any situations, 772 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:34,181 were there any stories about a big fire that would have destroyed anything? 773 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,100 Not really. 774 00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,060 Interesting, interesting. 775 00:40:41,063 --> 00:40:42,398 I don't know what this is. 776 00:40:42,481 --> 00:40:44,984 It keeps coming through. Does it ring any bells? 777 00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:46,360 No, not offhand. 778 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,612 -I'll probably figure it out. -Yeah. 779 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:49,989 -Think of it. -No worries. 780 00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:53,075 I have to tell you, being here, it's cathartic for me. 781 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,535 -It's special. -Right. 782 00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:56,454 We fit right back where we left off. 783 00:40:56,537 --> 00:40:58,747 I know. It's so surreal. 784 00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:01,333 I can't thank you enough for your hospitality, 785 00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:03,961 but also you lent the opportunity for people to come in 786 00:41:04,044 --> 00:41:05,796 and have meaningful experiences. 787 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,216 It was our pleasure. It was… meant a lot for us as well. 788 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,218 Yeah. I'm really, really thankful. 789 00:41:30,571 --> 00:41:31,989 Unfortunately, the fire, 790 00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:34,700 which is believed to have started in the stairwell 791 00:41:34,783 --> 00:41:38,871 caused severe heat and smoke damage to the temple room on the second floor. 792 00:41:38,954 --> 00:41:40,748 Wing, who recently lost her mother, 793 00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:43,959 collapsed when she was allowed back inside on Thursday morning. 794 00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:47,338 I really fell to my knees in this crumpled heap.