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Um…
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He just seems to be going back
to the people he surrounded himself with.
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And, and obtaining money,
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things to do for money,
that kind of thing.
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I have to suspect that, in some way,
played into how he passed.
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And he knew that
there was no way out of the situation.
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Yeah?
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Something come to mind?
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It almost seems like he…
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knew that he was gonna die that day.
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Mm-hmm.
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He called my mom, just weirdly.
"Mom, are you okay?"
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She's like, "What is your deal?
Yes, I'm okay."
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Yeah.
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-He dealt with dangerous people, and uh…
-Yeah.
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I… I can only guess
that a threat was made.
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-That if you don't do this--
-Yes.
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-Then we're gonna harm your family.
-Right.
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-Do we know who killed him?
-Not yet.
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-I kinda do.
-M'kay.
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Keep this in mind.
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This feels like
he is showing me that he was lured
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to wherever he went.
You need to know that.
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-Okay?
-Oh my God.
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So if you suspect that person
you're thinking about,
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if that could have tied into this,
he's validating this today.
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Wow.
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I always have to be careful,
'cause I don't wanna incriminate anybody,
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but there's an element of,
he got betrayed.
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His "friend" at the time
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is the person that, I suspect, lured him
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to the person
that actually pulled the trigger.
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Yes.
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But we know for a fact
that this "friend" was
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admittedly the last person
with my brother.
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-Yeah.
-Admittedly dropped him off
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at a gas station
that no one has seen him at.
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-Yeah, I feel like justice will be served.
-You do?
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I think the person who did this,
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they're showing my symbol
for incarceration, but in other ways.
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So this person who did this may get caught
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doing something else.
And then information might come from that.
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You know, despite all this,
he felt like a good guy.
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-You know? Yeah.
-He was.
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-He was a really good brother.
-Yeah.
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I miss him a lot.
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My brother was
in the street at a very young age,
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both him and I.
That's when we started to hustle.
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Um, that's when we started
getting money-- Illegal ways.
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We didn't think
about the consequences, right?
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Nobody told us. We didn't have
any role models that said,
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"You're going to prison,
or you're gonna be dead."
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No one tried to put us on the right track.
We didn't have those role models.
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My brother went
to federal prison for about seven years.
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He was released,
and not even a year later, he was dead.
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When I decided to change my life around,
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I made that decision
for total self-preservation.
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Um, it was maybe a selfish decision,
but I knew that I had to leave that city.
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And I never tried to get him
to do anything different with his life.
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That's another area
of regret and guilt that I have.
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When this comes through,
it's not blaming anybody.
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It's not judging anybody.
It's saying, "This is how someone feels."
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It's clearly how you feel.
And he wants you to be free
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of that feeling like you could have
or should have acted sooner.
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Yes.
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Do they hear me
when I talk and pray to them?
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Oh, absolutely.
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I always tell people, they hear us.
They feel our intention.
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That's the power of this.
When I do a reading,
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I set the intention to connect.
And when you talk to them out loud…
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…in any capacity,
they feel this. They know this.
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That's my prayers to them.
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When I talk to them,
it's just, like…
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"Just let me know you're here with me."
I say that to them.
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You're not alone with them.
They're still a part of your life.
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That's very, very helpful to hear.
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Now I feel like
I have my brother and my dad.
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-They're here with me.
-Exactly.
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-Do you mind if I give you a hug?
-No, I do not.
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-I'd love that. Thank you.
-This from both of them today.
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Thank you.
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Tyler has given me
permission to live my life.
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He's given me a new focus and some hope.
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-It was such a beautiful read.
-Really?
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-It's why we do what we do, huh?
-I'm glad to hear.
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It was so healing.
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We came to New Orleans
to try to get answers.
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I've already spoken
to the family my mom grew up with.
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But now it's time to sit
with my mom's biological family
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and maybe give them a reading.
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I'll put a pile of
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underwear and things
where you have easy access to 'em.
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-Okay.
-Okay.
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I've only met them once. If I get
too emotional, too invested, too biased,
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then my connection
to the other side becomes skewed.
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So I'm hoping
that I can get clarification.
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Anything, any piece of information
that I don't know, would be helpful.
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I have a lot of questions
about how this happened,
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and I know that only the people
in New Orleans could have the answer.
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How are you feeling
with seeing your family?
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Oh, I'm… I'm good. I'm excited.
I mean, I'm sure it's gonna be fine.
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I only found out
about my biological siblings
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about two years ago through DNA testing.
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By talking to them
on the phone for hours at a time,
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they explained to me what had happened,
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and how my mother had given me up.
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They didn't know
all the details as to how and why.
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They've been looking for me all this time.
And I had no idea.
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It was so overwhelming.
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-Oh my goodness.
-Hello.
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She's the one driving!
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-Be careful.
-Oh my goodness.
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Oh!
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And she's got purple nails!
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Hi. Look at you.
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How's it goin' on?
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I'm five years older than Theresa.
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She's my baby sister.
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I've been looking
for my sister since 1969.
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There would be times where I'd be like,
"Okay, well, where do I start?"
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But I always felt she wasn't
where she supposed to be.
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And I know Mom is up there,
and she's like,
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"Keep going."
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Not only do my mom
and my Aunt Mary almost look identical,
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they dress the same.
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They have the same mannerisms.
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It's pretty crazy.
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What is happening here, guys?
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George, tell us what's happening.
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What we're gonna do is,
we used to take nets and everything
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and go over and catch the crabs and--
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-No way. Oh my gosh.
-This is Bayou St. John area.
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The lakefront.
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We grew up very poor,
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but even though we had hard times,
my mom was a fantastic person.
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She made sure we always had love.
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So I wanna take Tyler and Theresa crabbing
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because I want them to experience
what we did as a family.
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I want her to have
her connection with our mother.
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-Your best grandmother you'd ever expect.
-Yes. I know.
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I wish I would've met her.
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-She's here in spirit.
-Absolutely.
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What I need you to do
to start off is, to tie this net off.
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I'm gonna get you some gloves.
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Right.
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What you do is you take
three chicken necks on there,
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tie it like you tie in a shoe.
Tie it tight 'cause crabs can take it.
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Gotcha. You tie it to the string.
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All you had to do
is tie your nets layin' there.
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And come back for them.
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-My gosh.
-All you had to do to catch dinner.
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-That was a little…
-Perfect.
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Your grandmother
used to look forward to coming here
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so much that she'd stay up all night
cooking fried chicken, potato salad,
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and we'd sit here all day.
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Wow.
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-It was a good time.
-Wow.
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She did a lot of good things
to give us a good childhood, you know.
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From everything that people have
described my grandmother as,
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fun-loving, like to have a good time.
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She valued simple things, her family,
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what mattered most to her.
She didn't need a lot to be happy.
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I feel lucky to know
that I come from good people.
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Giving me a deeper appreciation
for who I am.
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Pull that net up if you could.
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-See what they got in there.
-We're gonna pull real fast.
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Did they catch any?
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-Did they catch any?
-I don't know yet.
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-Oh.
-Pull them.
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All right. Pullin'.
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-Oh, look what you got.
-Hey, we got crabs!
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-This oughta make it for the day.
-There you go.
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-This is enough.
-We can eat for weeks.
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Wow. So much goes into this.
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-This is amazing.
-Yeah…
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It was such a special day, today.
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-Oh, I know. It's great. So great.
-Oh my God.
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Whoo! Here's the splash!
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-Okay.
-Look at that!
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I love you so much.
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I love you too. This is so great.
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-It is. Look at the breeze.
-So great. I know, I know and no rain.
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But you know,
one thing about your mom, our mom--
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Yep. That's right.
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She used to really work
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her bottom off
to make sure we went to the parades.
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Everything we did.
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There was so much shame.
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Mama had a breakdown
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after giving you to Stella.
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This I found out later.
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At that time, I was too young,
and they didn't tell us anything.
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I bet you and Mary are having
some great memories
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about what you did here.
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Wish I could've been here.
We're here now. That's what matters.
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I can tell
this has been really hard for my mom.
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She could have had a different life,
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and that was taken
from her by this criminal.
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It's hard to focus on processing
all of the information coming through
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with everything going on.
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I can tell that my mom is emotional
being around Mary and George.
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It shows to me that
it's not the right time to do a reading,
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but I hope to have that chance
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in the coming days
when we have one-on-one time.
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She really, really was a special person.
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-I'm sure.
-You are a lot like her.
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-Yes, she is!
-Thank you. I'm honored.
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The hardest part about all of this
is just feeling like I'm so angry
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that this time was stolen from me.
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I don't know. I've just gone over it
a million different ways.
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It's actually kind of
like torture in a way.
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When they describe their childhood,
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and when they describe
how wonderful our mother was,
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and what a great mother she was,
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and how fun she was,
and how she would take them out of school
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so that they could go crabbing,
um, and have a fun day together.
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Then they would go home
at the end of the day and boil the crab.
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You know, have a fun day.
Um, I think, you know, I'm jealous.
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Stella did none of those things.
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She never told me she loved me,
not one time in my life.
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My siblings, they weren't rich.
They lived in the projects.
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But the love they had for my mother,
you can't put a price on that.
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They turned out to be great people.
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So it tells you that you can be poor,
and as long as you're loved,
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if you have love in your home,
you have everything.
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I remembered something that happened,
and I guess I just put it away
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and forgot about it.
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When I was 19 or 20,
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this person contacted me and said,
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"Stella got ahold of me from prison,
and she says she's not your mother."
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"I just wanna tell you,
and you can do with it what you want."
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And I didn't believe her
because she's told so many lies,
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it never even occurred to me.
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But I wished… I'm so mad at myself.
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I wished I had listened then,
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because I would've been able
to meet my mother. It was just Stella.
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She lied and lied and lied.
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So I didn't believe her.
And I'm gonna take that to my grave.
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I'm gonna always
be kicking myself for that one.
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Day one in New Orleans.
We don't know anything more
241
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about how and why my mom
ended up with Stella, a murderer.
242
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But we learned a lot about
what a loving mother my grandmother was,
243
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which is confusing.
244
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If she was so dedicated to her kids,
why on earth did she give up my mom?
245
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It just doesn't make sense.
I want to figure this out for my mom,
246
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because I know it's tearing her apart.
247
00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:16,105
I just hope that I can get her
as close as I can to a sense of closure.
248
00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:20,109
Especially considering my life is defined
by moments of wanting to give people
249
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a sense of closure for peace.
250
00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:30,995
It's kinda weird,
more convoluted today than usual.
251
00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:32,705
In what way?
252
00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:38,043
Just a lot of references to,
like, lack of mental clarity.
253
00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:39,003
Hmm.
254
00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:41,755
I just feel a little…
It feels like clouded.
255
00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:48,095
There it is.
256
00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:51,348
Yay.
257
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:57,521
-More of just weird, weird vibes. Yeah.
-It's weird.
258
00:15:01,025 --> 00:15:03,944
Venues like this
sometimes make it harder to connect.
259
00:15:04,528 --> 00:15:07,406
if it's places that have been frequented
by a bunch of people.
260
00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:09,241
Yeah, 'cause they leave energy.
261
00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:12,620
Yeah. Everyone just kinda…
Yeah, it's like a sponge.
262
00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:15,289
More like a urinal cake, in all honesty.
263
00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:20,669
I'm happy you're here,
and we're doing it together.
264
00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,880
-I know. Yay.
-Yay!
265
00:15:22,963 --> 00:15:26,008
-Hello! How's it going?
-Hi!
266
00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:27,968
-Let me give you a handshake.
-Can we?
267
00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:31,096
Oh my God. I'm Lauren.
It's so nice to meet you.
268
00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:34,016
-Where you like to me sit?
-Sit there. I'll bring this over.
269
00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:36,435
-Yeah, that works.
-Yeah.
270
00:15:36,518 --> 00:15:38,145
So I have my notepad here.
271
00:15:38,228 --> 00:15:39,897
-A handy-dandy notebook.
-Okay.
272
00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:43,609
Anybody that you have met, know,
and sometimes even within family,
273
00:15:43,692 --> 00:15:46,028
people can come through
that we've never met.
274
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-Don't air out my dirty family laundry.
-I'll try not to.
275
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,909
So with that said,
do we have any objects for me?
276
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We have a couple.
277
00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:55,079
So we have both of these.
278
00:15:55,162 --> 00:15:57,247
Okay, fabulous.
279
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I'm gonna put those right there,
if that's okay. Oh, fabulous.
280
00:16:01,251 --> 00:16:04,964
-This beautiful thing.
-Precious. That…
281
00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:08,175
- Couple fine jewelry.
-I love it! My goodness!
282
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,594
Okay.
283
00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:15,683
How weird.
284
00:16:17,184 --> 00:16:18,102
Okay.
285
00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:21,605
There. I'm gonna grab this.
286
00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:23,899
I'm gonna see if we can connect with that.
287
00:16:27,611 --> 00:16:28,487
There.
288
00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:38,539
-I'm looking like I'm gonna understand.
-I know. I'm reading it.
289
00:16:38,622 --> 00:16:41,041
I'll verbalize it.
I'm like, "What is going on?"
290
00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:42,918
Very interesting.
291
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:46,880
This seems different.
292
00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:52,970
Okay. They're having me
highlight female, not male.
293
00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:54,138
-Yeah.
-Okay.
294
00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:58,017
It's kinda weird. She brings up this,
like, the only way I can describe it
295
00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,728
is an escalation,
things escalating in some capacity.
296
00:17:00,811 --> 00:17:04,648
I'm trying to get more details
'cause it seems like an odd passing.
297
00:17:04,732 --> 00:17:07,234
I've brought through
a lot of different ways people go.
298
00:17:07,317 --> 00:17:09,153
-This seems very weird.
-Yeah.
299
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,241
There's interesting stuff.
300
00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:16,952
This is not your traditional reading,
even as a medium.
301
00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:20,122
One thing that kinda came through
that struck me on the way here.
302
00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:23,000
I was feeling really
kind of mentally cloudy.
303
00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:24,084
That would make sense.
304
00:17:24,168 --> 00:17:27,171
So, if someone's drunk,
or if somebody's, like, feels…
305
00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:29,256
I felt dizzy,
is the only way to describe it.
306
00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:30,674
I didn't feel clear of mind.
307
00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,968
-Yeah. That resonates, for sure.
-It does.
308
00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:33,886
Okay.
309
00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:43,896
You know, I'm seeing water spurting out,
um, like a fountain. I don't know.
310
00:17:43,979 --> 00:17:49,401
I wonder if there were fountains nearby
in any capacity. Um, I don't know.
311
00:17:56,992 --> 00:17:58,994
The time that this person passed,
312
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,121
there's this feeling of kind of, uh…
313
00:18:02,706 --> 00:18:03,540
Huh.
314
00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:06,543
I don't… I feel kind of distanced
from some people.
315
00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:11,924
There's people that
she didn't know closely around her.
316
00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:15,010
I have to say this with certainty
in the way this is coming across.
317
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,261
-In all honesty.
-Okay.
318
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:20,432
I'm certain that there was
this feeling of somebody being around
319
00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:21,850
that I don't know very well.
320
00:18:22,768 --> 00:18:25,979
Like, when someone…
even if a young person dies of cancer,
321
00:18:26,063 --> 00:18:27,981
people are able to be at the bedside,
322
00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:30,025
-they do the send-off.
-Expecting it.
323
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,361
I don't get that, in a traditional sense.
324
00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:35,447
So this feels like,
I'm kind of taken, stolen,
325
00:18:35,531 --> 00:18:37,449
like, "my life is taken from me."
326
00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,785
-I'm here then not--
-That makes a lot of sense.
327
00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:41,286
-Yeah.
-The way it comes across.
328
00:18:44,456 --> 00:18:46,208
Very interesting, around the passing,
329
00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:50,379
and I don't know why this is, but there's
an emphasis on a celebratory feeling.
330
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:54,133
So it's kind of a very dark dichotomy
between someone dying,
331
00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:57,511
but then there's a celebration feeling,
people living it up.
332
00:18:57,594 --> 00:18:59,179
I feel happy. I feel excited.
333
00:19:01,431 --> 00:19:03,684
Do you know? This is so irritating.
334
00:19:03,767 --> 00:19:07,563
I've been, this whole time, seeing
musical references, and we're in a bar.
335
00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:09,857
Sometimes that'll do it,
but there's more to it.
336
00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:10,774
Yeah.
337
00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:13,360
It's just the mood
doesn't match the death.
338
00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:18,448
There was music playing. You know.
339
00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:19,992
-It makes sense.
-It was abrupt.
340
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,870
Music was, like, her thing.
341
00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:25,455
She loved country music.
342
00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:28,709
She loved to get up
and dance and sing along.
343
00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:30,544
-Yeah.
344
00:19:35,048 --> 00:19:37,801
This is kinda weird. There, there, there.
345
00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:41,555
Do you have any "C" or "K" names
connected to her?
346
00:19:41,638 --> 00:19:42,973
Mm-hmm.
347
00:19:43,056 --> 00:19:45,475
Getting very strong
"ch, ch, ch" sound.
348
00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:46,643
What was her name?
349
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,896
-It was Chrissy.
-Gotcha.
350
00:19:49,479 --> 00:19:51,732
So who was this person for you?
351
00:19:51,815 --> 00:19:56,403
It was our sorority sister.
So hence the stoles and all of that.
352
00:19:56,486 --> 00:20:00,032
I didn't realize what it was.
They put it on people after they graduate?
353
00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:02,951
-I didn't graduate college. I don't know.
-Yeah.
354
00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:09,291
We were in the same business college.
This was our sorority stole that you wore.
355
00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:13,253
-It's a decoration for when you graduate.
-Okay.
356
00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:16,924
The last photos that we took
with her, we were wearing them.
357
00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,592
-Yeah.
-I love that.
358
00:20:19,259 --> 00:20:23,263
-She was such a cool girl.
-Yeah.
359
00:20:23,347 --> 00:20:25,933
Amazing friend. Fun, fun energy.
360
00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:29,478
Fun, but so honest,
even when you didn't want her to be.
361
00:20:29,978 --> 00:20:33,273
Just such a good presence
to be around.
362
00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:36,360
That's really cool. Yeah, and special.
363
00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:37,402
Um…
364
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,532
Weird. There's, like, a book thing.
365
00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:43,659
Hmm…
366
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:45,452
That's an interesting symbol.
367
00:20:47,955 --> 00:20:50,916
Do you know of the significance
of the first of a month?
368
00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,751
-Mm-hmm.
-Mm-hmm.
369
00:20:52,834 --> 00:20:55,837
She is gonna be honored in some capacity,
370
00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:58,215
and I'm seeing what looks like a plaque,
371
00:20:58,298 --> 00:21:00,801
so trying to think how to word this.
372
00:21:00,884 --> 00:21:04,805
Set in stone is the way to describe it.
Like, I feel like it's…
373
00:21:04,888 --> 00:21:07,015
There has to be…
Remember that I'm saying this,
374
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,018
someone has either considered
planting a tree in her memory
375
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:13,063
or is going to plant a tree,
and it's a big thing.
376
00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:16,942
There's a ceremony. I'm seeing
the dirt being dug, that whole thing.
377
00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:19,069
That doesn't click, from what you know?
378
00:21:19,152 --> 00:21:21,405
-It totally clicks. Sorry.
-It does click? Okay.
379
00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:23,657
There's a feeling of pride around it.
380
00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:25,826
It's being honored in a greater capacity.
381
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,165
I'm getting more with this.
I'm getting the chills.
382
00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:36,420
'Cause I'm seeing…
I have all these people just bolting.
383
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:42,884
But I just feel like there's a lot of fear
beyond what happened here.
384
00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:47,347
When it comes to trying to get
medical treatment in any capacity,
385
00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:49,141
they put a big red "X" through this.
386
00:21:49,224 --> 00:21:52,686
Anytime they do that,
it always indicates that there was a delay
387
00:21:52,769 --> 00:21:54,604
for the severity of the situation.
388
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:58,567
-Related to when the police showed up.
-A hundred percent. Yeah.
389
00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,444
There definitely was a delay.
390
00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:03,739
I'm gonna keep going.
391
00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:10,829
This is kinda hard to explain,
392
00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:13,790
but the symbology
that's coming through is I'm like…
393
00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:17,544
I go from up to down.
394
00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:20,630
It just feels like I'm high and then low.
395
00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:21,965
-Physically.
-Yeah.
396
00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:24,092
-Yeah.
-That makes perfect sense.
397
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,552
-Okay. Good.
-Yeah.
398
00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:30,474
There is a big thing
in the way this comes across
399
00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:32,642
of sound ricocheting.
400
00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:36,521
And I know this is so weird,
but there was an issue where sound…
401
00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:39,483
I feel like I can't figure out
where this is coming from,
402
00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:41,109
is the only way to describe this.
403
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,904
-Yeah.
-And when this comes through…
404
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,157
it's just this feeling of,
I don't know where to look.
405
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,743
It's like I'm literally… Ugh.
406
00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:53,955
-There's a lot here.
-Yeah.
407
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,583
So, what happened?
408
00:22:57,334 --> 00:22:59,336
It was a live music event.
409
00:22:59,419 --> 00:23:01,546
And there was a mass shooting.
410
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:06,551
-So everything you said makes sense.
-Yeah.
411
00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:13,433
Hello, everyone. We continue our coverage
now of the horrific shooting in Las Vegas.
412
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,894
The deadliest in American history.
413
00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:17,813
A gunman opened fire last night,
414
00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,107
shortly after ten o'clock, local time,
415
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,442
from the 32nd floor
416
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:27,322
of the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas,
raining wave after wave of automatic fire.
417
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,283
There was a lot
of people confused, running.
418
00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:32,828
Officer,
Mandalay Bay halfway up.
419
00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:35,747
I see the shots coming
from Mandalay Bay, halfway up.
420
00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:39,584
-There was a lag in response time.
-Getting--
421
00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:43,088
Get out of here! Gun shots
coming from over there. Go that way!
422
00:23:43,171 --> 00:23:44,548
Go, go. That way! That way!
423
00:23:44,631 --> 00:23:50,303
Sixty-one people passed away,
but I think 500 were injured.
424
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:53,098
There's a few memorials
in different locations.
425
00:23:53,181 --> 00:23:57,394
-But a plaque is a resurrected thing.
-It's what came to mind.
426
00:23:57,477 --> 00:23:59,479
People were enjoying the concert
427
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:02,524
and left all of these things behind
as they scurried.
428
00:24:02,607 --> 00:24:06,361
Right now, it's basically silent because
of the tragic events that happened.
429
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,121
Are there any questions
you have pertaining to this person?
430
00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:18,457
-Are you okay?
-Yeah.
431
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:21,001
-Were you okay in the end? I don't know.
-Yeah.
432
00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:22,544
-You know?
-Of course.
433
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,505
The way I'd describe this,
when she comes through,
434
00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:26,798
this happened so fast.
435
00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:29,593
She comes through
with a sense of acceptance and peace.
436
00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:32,929
But I can't emphasize enough how much joy
she comes through with.
437
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:35,724
-Just overwhelming sense of peace.
-That's amazing.
438
00:24:35,807 --> 00:24:38,143
-But, you know, it doesn't--
-That's comforting.
439
00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:40,645
I also understand
it doesn't erase what happened.
440
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:43,732
-Yeah.
-So thank you for sharing that.
441
00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:46,401
I know it's a hard thing
to have to talk about.
442
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,738
It makes sense now, in context,
why it was so kind of weird for me
443
00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:52,032
'cause it's not
your traditional situation.
444
00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:55,535
But I hope that this also helps
bring an awareness to gun violence.
445
00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,204
-I hope so.
-You know, because…
446
00:24:57,287 --> 00:25:01,666
I can't tell you enough. They never want
their death to define their life.
447
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:04,252
Within how she passed,
there's gonna be opportunities
448
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,087
to bring awareness to bigger things.
449
00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,089
It's gonna help a lot of people.
450
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:09,925
-Thank you so much.
-Of course.
451
00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:14,179
Before you go, can you tell us
next week's, like, lotto numbers?
452
00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:16,598
-They're on the back of this book.
-They are?
453
00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:19,226
-Leave it here. Don't say it out loud.
-If I showed you…
454
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,353
-I'd have to bring you through.
-That's fine.
455
00:25:21,436 --> 00:25:22,854
Yeah, exactly.
456
00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:25,148
-If you need a drink, there's options.
-We might.
457
00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:28,151
-Stay safe. Bye!
-Have an amazing rest of your day. Bye!
458
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:32,656
I think it was nice
to get that confirmation
459
00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,492
that, yeah, she is still beaming.
460
00:25:35,575 --> 00:25:36,993
She's still dancing around.
461
00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,871
-That's really what I wanted to hear.
-Yeah.
462
00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:43,083
It was a sorority sister
463
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,627
who died in the Las Vegas shooting.
464
00:25:46,753 --> 00:25:49,923
On the way here, I was getting
this feeling of inebriation.
465
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,634
-People were drinking heavily.
-'Cause you were saying…
466
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:55,262
Oh, yeah. You were saying,
"Not clear in the head."
467
00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:56,846
-And you weren't sure.
-Yeah.
468
00:25:56,930 --> 00:26:00,183
When I sat there,
I could tell she had been drinking.
469
00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:04,271
So she was giving you
what it was like…
470
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:08,066
-Being there.
-…being there, at the moment.
471
00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:10,610
Wow.
472
00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:28,461
I am fascinated by the idea
473
00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:32,132
of any way that I can expedite
what I do on a daily basis.
474
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:35,218
In my job, I scribble.
475
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:37,596
It's how I connect.
476
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,557
If I can have a place
I can go into before I do a reading,
477
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,143
that might help me
get more clear impressions,
478
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:44,477
of course I'm gonna try it.
479
00:26:48,898 --> 00:26:51,901
So I built the psychomanteum
with my dad.
480
00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:55,405
Yeah. Let's see what we got here.
481
00:26:56,406 --> 00:26:57,616
It's coming together.
482
00:26:58,116 --> 00:26:59,284
How does that feel?
483
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:03,079
Oh, just so masculine.
All the testosterone.
484
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,542
Psychomanteum is based off
of an ancient process
485
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,170
of communicating with higher forces,
486
00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:14,924
dating back to the Greek days,
Ancient Greece, necropolises.
487
00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:17,385
Places where people would go,
grieving people,
488
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,846
to connect with
their loved ones who passed.
489
00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:24,476
The idea is
that you would go into a space.
490
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,646
Back then, it was typically subterranean,
under the ground, in caves,
491
00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,231
and would be enshrouded in darkness.
492
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,525
This would allow them to have experiences
493
00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:35,862
where they would see things
or feel things they wouldn't normally.
494
00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:39,949
The psychomanteum emulates that
in a more modern way.
495
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:51,378
The process involves going into the room
and spending 45 minutes to an hour
496
00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:52,754
gazing into a mirror,
497
00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:56,841
a mirror situated in a way that it doesn't
reflect your reflection back at you.
498
00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:00,053
Most people report seeing impressions.
499
00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:02,597
Sometimes they're colors.
Sometimes they're symbols.
500
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,016
More interestingly,
sometimes people will see faces
501
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,770
and full-on apparitions of people
that they once knew,
502
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,772
and sometimes people they didn't.
503
00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:14,234
So my job as a medium
feels like it's a natural segue
504
00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:17,153
into going to the space
and trying to see what I can get.
505
00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:20,824
And if it'll differ from
what an everyday person might receive.
506
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,012
For the first ten,
fifteen minutes or so,
507
00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:47,600
it didn't really feel much,
internally or externally.
508
00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:48,810
I didn't see anything.
509
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:53,022
And then, as it progressed,
it actually got a little overwhelming.
510
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,025
I felt something touch my shoulder.
511
00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:59,529
I saw in the mirror, like, a hand.
512
00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:05,034
I got a reference to a lady
with a mole on her upper, like, lip area.
513
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:06,995
Weird.
514
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:17,046
There was a reference to, like, Greece,
that I was seeing it in, like,
515
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:20,049
the word "Greece" in white letters.
516
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:24,596
Felt the presence of a grandfather figure,
517
00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:27,724
saw a man with brown hair
that was, like, longer.
518
00:29:27,807 --> 00:29:28,808
Young or old?
519
00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:30,769
Um, young. Younger man.
520
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,562
Living, not dead.
521
00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:34,898
That was weird.
I was expecting to see dead people.
522
00:29:34,981 --> 00:29:36,900
I was having visions of living people.
523
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,157
When I do a reading, I will touch on
people who are both living and passed.
524
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,618
And as a medium,
I talk to people who've passed.
525
00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:49,579
But oftentimes,
their messages involve the living.
526
00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:50,830
People who are here.
527
00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:53,291
Through communicating with the other side,
528
00:29:53,374 --> 00:29:56,169
I can often get information
about people who are still here.
529
00:29:56,252 --> 00:29:58,046
Their well-being, what they're up to,
530
00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:01,132
what they've done,
issues they're dealing with.
531
00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:02,926
Those messages are meaningful too.
532
00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:05,220
Doesn't always have to come
from the other side.
533
00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:09,140
It was an experience, the closest thing
to drugs I will ever do,
534
00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:13,269
…in all honesty.
'Cause, you know, I'm pretty vanilla.
535
00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:17,565
My biggest takeaway from the psychomanteum
is that it can induce visions internally.
536
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:19,234
That was not what I was expecting.
537
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:23,279
I was expecting anything significant
I saw to be in the mirror in front of me,
538
00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:27,325
but it seems to act as a conduit
to get a person in that state of mind
539
00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,118
where they're more receptive.
540
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:44,217
-Hello!
-Hello! Good to see you! Yes.
541
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,552
It's Tyler. How are you?
542
00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:47,554
-Nice to meet you.
-Lovely to meet you.
543
00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,348
-Good.
-Thank you for having me. It's beautiful.
544
00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:52,559
-Thank you for inviting us.
-Absolutely.
545
00:30:52,642 --> 00:30:55,061
-Thank God it's not a dream anymore.
-I know
546
00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:58,273
That I'm having a reading with you
because I saw you in my dreams.
547
00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,774
Amazing! It was a premonition.
548
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,359
-It was meant to be.
-Yeah.
549
00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:06,781
So I have something to tell you.
Last night, I was testing out this room
550
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:08,741
that I have where I meditate and connect.
551
00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:12,245
-Okay.
-I had no idea I was meeting with you.
552
00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:15,248
But I saw a reference to a Greek man,
553
00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:18,167
and I was seeing
long, luxurious brown hair.
554
00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:19,377
-Are you serious?
-Yes.
555
00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:21,629
Clearly, this was divinely meant
to happen.
556
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,132
It gives me the chills to even talk about.
557
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,091
I'm very excited.
558
00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:28,928
I already have a lot coming in.
I'm gonna try to get through that.
559
00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:31,764
My question is
do you have anyone in common,
560
00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:33,141
or are you separate?
561
00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:36,311
-I know them, but they're separate.
-Okay.
562
00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:37,937
They don't know each other.
563
00:31:38,021 --> 00:31:41,065
The producer says
you can bring only one person,
564
00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:42,567
and I said, "I can't choose."
565
00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:45,528
"I can't do that to my friend
because I already told her."
566
00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:48,615
"It's no way that I can
take care of and bring someone else."
567
00:31:48,698 --> 00:31:51,367
"It's very important," I said.
568
00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:53,578
The next day, the producer called, saying,
569
00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:56,372
"Okay, you can bring
second guest with you."
570
00:31:56,456 --> 00:31:59,542
Okay, that helps. I'm gonna separate
in the way this comes across.
571
00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:00,877
-Did we bring objects?
-Yes.
572
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,962
Cool. We can put them
all out on the table.
573
00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:05,673
Perfect. Let me put that there.
574
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:08,426
What I'll do is
I'll hold this first, if you don't mind.
575
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:09,344
This one? Okay.
576
00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:11,721
-And we'll see what comes out.
-Okay.
577
00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:16,351
Okay. Okay.
578
00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:22,982
Do you have a connection to March?
579
00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:25,485
-Any birthdays?
-My birthday on March.
580
00:32:25,568 --> 00:32:28,571
-Okay, cool. Random. All right.
-Yeah.
581
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:29,697
Um…
582
00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:33,159
I see.
583
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,161
Huh.
584
00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:37,747
I wonder, do you know of any Christos?
585
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:39,916
-Christos? Yes.
-Who would that be?
586
00:32:39,999 --> 00:32:41,000
It's my father.
587
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:43,753
-Your father?
-My God. It's so weird.
588
00:32:43,836 --> 00:32:46,673
-Yeah. I know, it's spooky.
-It's so weird, that conversation.
589
00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:50,760
So interesting. Okay,
so I'm gonna keep going here. Okay.
590
00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:57,976
Okay. I have this mother figure
that comes in
591
00:32:58,059 --> 00:33:00,061
that isn't for you,
but for one of you two.
592
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:02,772
Somebody who basically
would have been, like,
593
00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:05,316
the biggest mom figure in the world,
It's how I can describe it.
594
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,653
I don't know why it comes in so strongly,
but I have to highlight that.
595
00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:10,154
That. Okay.
596
00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,619
Do either of you have any connections
familially to New York at all?
597
00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:17,996
-You said New York?
-Yes.
598
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,247
Not New York City.
599
00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,457
-Correct. The state of New York.
-Okay.
600
00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:23,626
It's really interesting
when it comes across.
601
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,462
She references a number of females
that are connected to her.
602
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:29,841
When that happens, it'll refer to
if somebody has a number of daughters,
603
00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:32,468
if there's the two or three girls
in the family,
604
00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:35,013
basically a lot of…
gives me a lot of estrogen.
605
00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:36,889
-Right.
-Strong female characters.
606
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,350
-Do you know if she had any children?
-Yes.
607
00:33:39,434 --> 00:33:41,394
-Do you know if she had girls?
-Yes.
608
00:33:41,477 --> 00:33:45,732
All good. Would have been at least…
I keep going, like, two to three.
609
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:47,233
-How many? Two?
-Yes.
610
00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:51,112
-She has one that she gave birth to.
-Gotcha.
611
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,114
And she adopted one.
612
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,657
I love that. Okay, gotcha.
613
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,534
Huh. Weird.
614
00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:01,622
She gives me this impression
of being okay with her duration of life.
615
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,750
The thing that happened is interesting.
616
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:07,295
Some people were geographically distanced
at the time of her death.
617
00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:09,672
-They just received word that she passed.
-What?
618
00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:10,923
-Oh my God.
-It's weird.
619
00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:12,842
She's like, "It's fine. Not a big deal."
620
00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,344
I get a very much matter-of-fact feeling
621
00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:17,972
of, "It's okay.
I don't need people to be there."
622
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:21,517
-That is true. That is absolutely true.
-So that's something that--
623
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,187
Let me see what this is
624
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:28,399
'cause she's bringing up
a situation where she passes,
625
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:31,027
but then somebody is not able to be there.
626
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,405
So where were you and where was she
at the time of her passing?
627
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:36,991
-In Neuilly, France.
-So you were together?
628
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:38,117
-Together.
-Gotcha.
629
00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:42,121
When we talk about her kids,
the two girls, was anybody not there?
630
00:34:42,205 --> 00:34:43,289
Did they not make it?
631
00:34:43,372 --> 00:34:45,625
-None of her kids were there.
-Okay.
632
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,336
-But at her request.
-Yes, yes, yes.
633
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:50,088
Okay. There's that.
634
00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,798
That's weird.
635
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:54,717
Hmm.
636
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,720
So this is going to sound weird,
637
00:34:57,804 --> 00:34:59,806
but there's some connection…
638
00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:01,474
I keep getting
639
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:03,726
kind of a famous feeling.
640
00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:05,478
Any time I get a famous feeling,
641
00:35:05,561 --> 00:35:09,732
it indicates that somebody's either
renowned or connected to celebrities,
642
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,610
or connected to
an iconic historical figure
643
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:15,029
or… you kinda get the gist with it.
644
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,239
You're right on.
645
00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:18,658
-Talking about kind of the big life.
-Yes.
646
00:35:18,741 --> 00:35:22,495
In the way it comes across.
Feels regal, is the way I'd describe it.
647
00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:23,454
That's a good word.
648
00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:28,000
I was just gonna say,
somebody is either related…
649
00:35:28,084 --> 00:35:31,129
I think she either met royalty,
knew royalty,
650
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:32,964
something about that crosses paths.
651
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:36,300
When we think of celebrities on TV,
I'm not getting that feeling.
652
00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:39,095
I'm talking about dignitaries.
People of status.
653
00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:41,764
And that comes through.
There's an interesting reference,
654
00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,350
and this may not click.
I think there's a Ruth.
655
00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,102
-You know the name Ruth?
-Oh yes.
656
00:35:46,185 --> 00:35:47,812
-Do you know who Ruth is?
-Yes.
657
00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,564
-Are you kidding me?
658
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,733
Yeah, so, I have to highlight Ruth,
in the way this comes across.
659
00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:53,943
Really interesting lady.
660
00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:56,821
Clearly comes across
like a force of nature.
661
00:35:56,904 --> 00:35:59,824
-I want you to know that.
-She's been called that before.
662
00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:02,994
-I believe it. Yes.
-She's been known for that.
663
00:36:03,077 --> 00:36:04,996
So I'm curious to know who Mom is.
664
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,625
Okay. So she was like my mother,
my grandmother, my best friend,
665
00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,502
and I learned so much.
666
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:13,713
-Now, you're very young.
-Yes.
667
00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:15,006
So you might not know.
668
00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:19,427
-But that's… this is who she is.
-What?
669
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:20,595
-Yes.
-What?
670
00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:24,390
Are you kidding me? Oh! Whoa!