1 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:19,394 Um… 2 00:00:19,477 --> 00:00:24,190 He just seems to be going back to the people he surrounded himself with. 3 00:00:24,274 --> 00:00:26,443 And, and obtaining money, 4 00:00:26,526 --> 00:00:28,987 things to do for money, that kind of thing. 5 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:32,907 I have to suspect that, in some way, played into how he passed. 6 00:00:32,991 --> 00:00:38,163 And he knew that there was no way out of the situation. 7 00:00:39,956 --> 00:00:40,790 Yeah? 8 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:44,210 Something come to mind? 9 00:00:46,963 --> 00:00:48,840 It almost seems like he… 10 00:00:51,092 --> 00:00:53,011 knew that he was gonna die that day. 11 00:00:53,094 --> 00:00:53,928 Mm-hmm. 12 00:01:07,108 --> 00:01:11,237 He called my mom, just weirdly. "Mom, are you okay?" 13 00:01:11,321 --> 00:01:13,782 She's like, "What is your deal? Yes, I'm okay." 14 00:01:13,865 --> 00:01:14,866 Yeah. 15 00:01:14,949 --> 00:01:19,120 -He dealt with dangerous people, and uh… -Yeah. 16 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:25,585 I… I can only guess that a threat was made. 17 00:01:25,668 --> 00:01:27,754 -That if you don't do this-- -Yes. 18 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:30,048 -Then we're gonna harm your family. -Right. 19 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:32,008 -Do we know who killed him? -Not yet. 20 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:33,510 -I kinda do. -M'kay. 21 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,309 Keep this in mind. 22 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:44,729 This feels like he is showing me that he was lured 23 00:01:44,813 --> 00:01:47,315 to wherever he went. You need to know that. 24 00:01:47,398 --> 00:01:48,691 -Okay? -Oh my God. 25 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:51,736 So if you suspect that person you're thinking about, 26 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,989 if that could have tied into this, he's validating this today. 27 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:55,907 Wow. 28 00:01:56,533 --> 00:02:00,411 I always have to be careful, 'cause I don't wanna incriminate anybody, 29 00:02:00,495 --> 00:02:03,123 but there's an element of, he got betrayed. 30 00:02:03,206 --> 00:02:05,500 His "friend" at the time 31 00:02:05,583 --> 00:02:08,503 is the person that, I suspect, lured him 32 00:02:08,586 --> 00:02:11,214 to the person that actually pulled the trigger. 33 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:12,257 Yes. 34 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:15,844 But we know for a fact that this "friend" was 35 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:18,805 admittedly the last person with my brother. 36 00:02:18,888 --> 00:02:22,058 -Yeah. -Admittedly dropped him off 37 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:25,103 at a gas station that no one has seen him at. 38 00:02:25,186 --> 00:02:28,565 -Yeah, I feel like justice will be served. -You do? 39 00:02:28,648 --> 00:02:30,316 I think the person who did this, 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,778 they're showing my symbol for incarceration, but in other ways. 41 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:36,614 So this person who did this may get caught 42 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:41,494 doing something else. And then information might come from that. 43 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:45,748 You know, despite all this, he felt like a good guy. 44 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:47,458 -You know? Yeah. -He was. 45 00:02:48,459 --> 00:02:50,378 -He was a really good brother. -Yeah. 46 00:02:50,461 --> 00:02:52,046 I miss him a lot. 47 00:02:54,883 --> 00:02:57,760 My brother was in the street at a very young age, 48 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:02,473 both him and I. That's when we started to hustle. 49 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:06,936 Um, that's when we started getting money-- Illegal ways. 50 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,731 We didn't think about the consequences, right? 51 00:03:09,814 --> 00:03:13,359 Nobody told us. We didn't have any role models that said, 52 00:03:13,443 --> 00:03:15,904 "You're going to prison, or you're gonna be dead." 53 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:20,617 No one tried to put us on the right track. We didn't have those role models. 54 00:03:21,826 --> 00:03:25,455 My brother went to federal prison for about seven years. 55 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:29,375 He was released, and not even a year later, he was dead. 56 00:03:30,501 --> 00:03:32,587 When I decided to change my life around, 57 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:36,591 I made that decision for total self-preservation. 58 00:03:36,674 --> 00:03:42,305 Um, it was maybe a selfish decision, but I knew that I had to leave that city. 59 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:48,853 And I never tried to get him to do anything different with his life. 60 00:03:49,687 --> 00:03:52,774 That's another area of regret and guilt that I have. 61 00:03:54,275 --> 00:03:56,945 When this comes through, it's not blaming anybody. 62 00:03:57,028 --> 00:04:00,073 It's not judging anybody. It's saying, "This is how someone feels." 63 00:04:00,156 --> 00:04:02,992 It's clearly how you feel. And he wants you to be free 64 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:06,079 of that feeling like you could have or should have acted sooner. 65 00:04:06,162 --> 00:04:06,996 Yes. 66 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:13,378 Do they hear me when I talk and pray to them? 67 00:04:13,461 --> 00:04:14,462 Oh, absolutely. 68 00:04:14,545 --> 00:04:17,507 I always tell people, they hear us. They feel our intention. 69 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:19,717 That's the power of this. When I do a reading, 70 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:23,263 I set the intention to connect. And when you talk to them out loud… 71 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:26,307 …in any capacity, they feel this. They know this. 72 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:29,936 That's my prayers to them. 73 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:33,856 When I talk to them, it's just, like… 74 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:37,527 "Just let me know you're here with me." I say that to them. 75 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:40,989 You're not alone with them. They're still a part of your life. 76 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:42,782 That's very, very helpful to hear. 77 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:45,285 Now I feel like I have my brother and my dad. 78 00:04:45,368 --> 00:04:46,911 -They're here with me. -Exactly. 79 00:04:46,995 --> 00:04:49,539 -Do you mind if I give you a hug? -No, I do not. 80 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:52,834 -I'd love that. Thank you. -This from both of them today. 81 00:04:52,917 --> 00:04:54,752 Thank you. 82 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:58,881 Tyler has given me permission to live my life. 83 00:04:59,590 --> 00:05:02,760 He's given me a new focus and some hope. 84 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:09,100 -It was such a beautiful read. -Really? 85 00:05:09,183 --> 00:05:12,270 -It's why we do what we do, huh? -I'm glad to hear. 86 00:05:12,353 --> 00:05:13,813 It was so healing. 87 00:05:44,135 --> 00:05:46,846 We came to New Orleans to try to get answers. 88 00:05:46,929 --> 00:05:49,349 I've already spoken to the family my mom grew up with. 89 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:52,310 But now it's time to sit with my mom's biological family 90 00:05:52,393 --> 00:05:53,895 and maybe give them a reading. 91 00:05:53,978 --> 00:05:55,146 I'll put a pile of 92 00:05:55,229 --> 00:05:57,732 underwear and things where you have easy access to 'em. 93 00:05:57,815 --> 00:05:59,525 -Okay. -Okay. 94 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:03,821 I've only met them once. If I get too emotional, too invested, too biased, 95 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:06,699 then my connection to the other side becomes skewed. 96 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:09,160 So I'm hoping that I can get clarification. 97 00:06:09,243 --> 00:06:12,789 Anything, any piece of information that I don't know, would be helpful. 98 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:15,375 I have a lot of questions about how this happened, 99 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:19,045 and I know that only the people in New Orleans could have the answer. 100 00:06:19,629 --> 00:06:21,798 How are you feeling with seeing your family? 101 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:26,135 Oh, I'm… I'm good. I'm excited. I mean, I'm sure it's gonna be fine. 102 00:06:27,136 --> 00:06:30,390 I only found out about my biological siblings 103 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:33,184 about two years ago through DNA testing. 104 00:06:33,768 --> 00:06:36,771 By talking to them on the phone for hours at a time, 105 00:06:36,854 --> 00:06:39,232 they explained to me what had happened, 106 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:41,317 and how my mother had given me up. 107 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:44,654 They didn't know all the details as to how and why. 108 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,533 They've been looking for me all this time. And I had no idea. 109 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:50,785 It was so overwhelming. 110 00:06:58,626 --> 00:07:00,253 -Oh my goodness. -Hello. 111 00:07:00,336 --> 00:07:01,796 She's the one driving! 112 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:04,173 -Be careful. -Oh my goodness. 113 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:05,383 Oh! 114 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:07,635 And she's got purple nails! 115 00:07:07,718 --> 00:07:09,345 Hi. Look at you. 116 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:11,556 How's it goin' on? 117 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:14,725 I'm five years older than Theresa. 118 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:16,686 She's my baby sister. 119 00:07:16,769 --> 00:07:19,981 I've been looking for my sister since 1969. 120 00:07:20,064 --> 00:07:23,609 There would be times where I'd be like, "Okay, well, where do I start?" 121 00:07:23,693 --> 00:07:26,863 But I always felt she wasn't where she supposed to be. 122 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:29,615 And I know Mom is up there, and she's like, 123 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:30,533 "Keep going." 124 00:07:31,409 --> 00:07:34,412 Not only do my mom and my Aunt Mary almost look identical, 125 00:07:34,495 --> 00:07:35,663 they dress the same. 126 00:07:35,746 --> 00:07:38,166 They have the same mannerisms. 127 00:07:38,666 --> 00:07:39,917 It's pretty crazy. 128 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:42,044 What is happening here, guys? 129 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:43,796 George, tell us what's happening. 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,924 What we're gonna do is, we used to take nets and everything 131 00:07:47,008 --> 00:07:48,968 and go over and catch the crabs and-- 132 00:07:49,051 --> 00:07:52,263 -No way. Oh my gosh. -This is Bayou St. John area. 133 00:07:52,346 --> 00:07:53,222 The lakefront. 134 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:55,933 We grew up very poor, 135 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:59,103 but even though we had hard times, my mom was a fantastic person. 136 00:07:59,187 --> 00:08:02,023 She made sure we always had love. 137 00:08:02,106 --> 00:08:06,319 So I wanna take Tyler and Theresa crabbing 138 00:08:06,402 --> 00:08:09,655 because I want them to experience what we did as a family. 139 00:08:09,739 --> 00:08:13,493 I want her to have her connection with our mother. 140 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:18,039 -Your best grandmother you'd ever expect. -Yes. I know. 141 00:08:18,122 --> 00:08:19,540 I wish I would've met her. 142 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:22,627 -She's here in spirit. -Absolutely. 143 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:27,882 What I need you to do to start off is, to tie this net off. 144 00:08:27,965 --> 00:08:29,759 I'm gonna get you some gloves. 145 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:31,052 Right. 146 00:08:31,135 --> 00:08:33,888 What you do is you take three chicken necks on there, 147 00:08:33,971 --> 00:08:37,308 tie it like you tie in a shoe. Tie it tight 'cause crabs can take it. 148 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:39,018 Gotcha. You tie it to the string. 149 00:08:39,101 --> 00:08:42,772 All you had to do is tie your nets layin' there. 150 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:44,023 And come back for them. 151 00:08:44,106 --> 00:08:46,901 -My gosh. -All you had to do to catch dinner. 152 00:08:48,069 --> 00:08:49,362 -That was a little… -Perfect. 153 00:08:51,447 --> 00:08:55,284 Your grandmother used to look forward to coming here 154 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:59,789 so much that she'd stay up all night cooking fried chicken, potato salad, 155 00:09:00,289 --> 00:09:02,333 and we'd sit here all day. 156 00:09:02,416 --> 00:09:03,251 Wow. 157 00:09:03,334 --> 00:09:05,002 -It was a good time. -Wow. 158 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:10,007 She did a lot of good things to give us a good childhood, you know. 159 00:09:10,091 --> 00:09:12,927 From everything that people have described my grandmother as, 160 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,096 fun-loving, like to have a good time. 161 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:17,473 She valued simple things, her family, 162 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:20,560 what mattered most to her. She didn't need a lot to be happy. 163 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:23,187 I feel lucky to know that I come from good people. 164 00:09:23,271 --> 00:09:26,440 Giving me a deeper appreciation for who I am. 165 00:09:28,776 --> 00:09:30,278 Pull that net up if you could. 166 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:33,614 -See what they got in there. -We're gonna pull real fast. 167 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:35,575 Did they catch any? 168 00:09:36,075 --> 00:09:37,994 -Did they catch any? -I don't know yet. 169 00:09:38,077 --> 00:09:39,662 -Oh. -Pull them. 170 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:41,038 All right. Pullin'. 171 00:09:41,122 --> 00:09:43,791 -Oh, look what you got. -Hey, we got crabs! 172 00:09:45,167 --> 00:09:47,295 -This oughta make it for the day. -There you go. 173 00:09:47,378 --> 00:09:49,380 -This is enough. -We can eat for weeks. 174 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:54,927 Wow. So much goes into this. 175 00:09:55,011 --> 00:09:56,178 -This is amazing. -Yeah… 176 00:09:56,262 --> 00:09:57,763 It was such a special day, today. 177 00:09:57,847 --> 00:10:02,101 -Oh, I know. It's great. So great. -Oh my God. 178 00:10:02,184 --> 00:10:04,395 Whoo! Here's the splash! 179 00:10:04,478 --> 00:10:05,855 -Okay. -Look at that! 180 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:07,315 I love you so much. 181 00:10:07,398 --> 00:10:09,859 I love you too. This is so great. 182 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:13,529 -It is. Look at the breeze. -So great. I know, I know and no rain. 183 00:10:15,865 --> 00:10:19,577 But you know, one thing about your mom, our mom-- 184 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:20,620 Yep. That's right. 185 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:23,080 She used to really work 186 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:27,376 her bottom off to make sure we went to the parades. 187 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:28,711 Everything we did. 188 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:31,797 There was so much shame. 189 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:34,300 Mama had a breakdown 190 00:10:35,426 --> 00:10:38,679 after giving you to Stella. 191 00:10:48,356 --> 00:10:49,774 This I found out later. 192 00:10:49,857 --> 00:10:54,362 At that time, I was too young, and they didn't tell us anything. 193 00:10:54,445 --> 00:10:57,114 I bet you and Mary are having some great memories 194 00:10:57,198 --> 00:10:58,407 about what you did here. 195 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:01,661 Wish I could've been here. We're here now. That's what matters. 196 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:09,043 I can tell this has been really hard for my mom. 197 00:11:09,126 --> 00:11:10,961 She could have had a different life, 198 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:14,924 and that was taken from her by this criminal. 199 00:11:19,428 --> 00:11:22,723 It's hard to focus on processing all of the information coming through 200 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:24,308 with everything going on. 201 00:11:24,392 --> 00:11:27,603 I can tell that my mom is emotional being around Mary and George. 202 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:30,690 It shows to me that it's not the right time to do a reading, 203 00:11:30,773 --> 00:11:32,400 but I hope to have that chance 204 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:34,610 in the coming days when we have one-on-one time. 205 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:38,239 She really, really was a special person. 206 00:11:38,322 --> 00:11:40,116 -I'm sure. -You are a lot like her. 207 00:11:40,199 --> 00:11:42,910 -Yes, she is! -Thank you. I'm honored. 208 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:49,417 The hardest part about all of this is just feeling like I'm so angry 209 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:52,211 that this time was stolen from me. 210 00:11:59,093 --> 00:12:02,388 I don't know. I've just gone over it a million different ways. 211 00:12:02,471 --> 00:12:05,891 It's actually kind of like torture in a way. 212 00:12:06,392 --> 00:12:09,061 When they describe their childhood, 213 00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:11,731 and when they describe how wonderful our mother was, 214 00:12:11,814 --> 00:12:13,816 and what a great mother she was, 215 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:17,194 and how fun she was, and how she would take them out of school 216 00:12:17,278 --> 00:12:20,573 so that they could go crabbing, um, and have a fun day together. 217 00:12:20,656 --> 00:12:24,702 Then they would go home at the end of the day and boil the crab. 218 00:12:25,286 --> 00:12:30,458 You know, have a fun day. Um, I think, you know, I'm jealous. 219 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:32,668 Stella did none of those things. 220 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:35,963 She never told me she loved me, not one time in my life. 221 00:12:40,259 --> 00:12:43,971 My siblings, they weren't rich. They lived in the projects. 222 00:12:44,054 --> 00:12:48,309 But the love they had for my mother, you can't put a price on that. 223 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:50,644 They turned out to be great people. 224 00:12:50,728 --> 00:12:54,607 So it tells you that you can be poor, and as long as you're loved, 225 00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:57,401 if you have love in your home, you have everything. 226 00:13:02,323 --> 00:13:06,076 I remembered something that happened, and I guess I just put it away 227 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,453 and forgot about it. 228 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:09,747 When I was 19 or 20, 229 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:12,124 this person contacted me and said, 230 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:17,004 "Stella got ahold of me from prison, and she says she's not your mother." 231 00:13:17,087 --> 00:13:20,508 "I just wanna tell you, and you can do with it what you want." 232 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:24,094 And I didn't believe her because she's told so many lies, 233 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,180 it never even occurred to me. 234 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:29,350 But I wished… I'm so mad at myself. 235 00:13:29,433 --> 00:13:30,893 I wished I had listened then, 236 00:13:30,976 --> 00:13:34,313 because I would've been able to meet my mother. It was just Stella. 237 00:13:34,396 --> 00:13:36,398 She lied and lied and lied. 238 00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:40,361 So I didn't believe her. And I'm gonna take that to my grave. 239 00:13:40,444 --> 00:13:43,072 I'm gonna always be kicking myself for that one. 240 00:13:51,497 --> 00:13:54,333 Day one in New Orleans. We don't know anything more 241 00:13:54,416 --> 00:13:57,920 about how and why my mom ended up with Stella, a murderer. 242 00:13:58,003 --> 00:14:01,549 But we learned a lot about what a loving mother my grandmother was, 243 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:03,008 which is confusing. 244 00:14:03,092 --> 00:14:07,054 If she was so dedicated to her kids, why on earth did she give up my mom? 245 00:14:07,137 --> 00:14:10,432 It just doesn't make sense. I want to figure this out for my mom, 246 00:14:10,516 --> 00:14:12,434 because I know it's tearing her apart. 247 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:16,105 I just hope that I can get her as close as I can to a sense of closure. 248 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:20,109 Especially considering my life is defined by moments of wanting to give people 249 00:14:20,192 --> 00:14:22,152 a sense of closure for peace. 250 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:30,995 It's kinda weird, more convoluted today than usual. 251 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:32,705 In what way? 252 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:38,043 Just a lot of references to, like, lack of mental clarity. 253 00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:39,003 Hmm. 254 00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:41,755 I just feel a little… It feels like clouded. 255 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:48,095 There it is. 256 00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:51,348 Yay. 257 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:57,521 -More of just weird, weird vibes. Yeah. -It's weird. 258 00:15:01,025 --> 00:15:03,944 Venues like this sometimes make it harder to connect. 259 00:15:04,528 --> 00:15:07,406 if it's places that have been frequented by a bunch of people. 260 00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:09,241 Yeah, 'cause they leave energy. 261 00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:12,620 Yeah. Everyone just kinda… Yeah, it's like a sponge. 262 00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:15,289 More like a urinal cake, in all honesty. 263 00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:20,669 I'm happy you're here, and we're doing it together. 264 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,880 -I know. Yay. -Yay! 265 00:15:22,963 --> 00:15:26,008 -Hello! How's it going? -Hi! 266 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:27,968 -Let me give you a handshake. -Can we? 267 00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:31,096 Oh my God. I'm Lauren. It's so nice to meet you. 268 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:34,016 -Where you like to me sit? -Sit there. I'll bring this over. 269 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:36,435 -Yeah, that works. -Yeah. 270 00:15:36,518 --> 00:15:38,145 So I have my notepad here. 271 00:15:38,228 --> 00:15:39,897 -A handy-dandy notebook. -Okay. 272 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:43,609 Anybody that you have met, know, and sometimes even within family, 273 00:15:43,692 --> 00:15:46,028 people can come through that we've never met. 274 00:15:46,111 --> 00:15:48,864 -Don't air out my dirty family laundry. -I'll try not to. 275 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,909 So with that said, do we have any objects for me? 276 00:15:51,992 --> 00:15:53,118 We have a couple. 277 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:55,079 So we have both of these. 278 00:15:55,162 --> 00:15:57,247 Okay, fabulous. 279 00:15:57,331 --> 00:16:01,168 I'm gonna put those right there, if that's okay. Oh, fabulous. 280 00:16:01,251 --> 00:16:04,964 -This beautiful thing. -Precious. That… 281 00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:08,175 - Couple fine jewelry. -I love it! My goodness! 282 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,594 Okay. 283 00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:15,683 How weird. 284 00:16:17,184 --> 00:16:18,102 Okay. 285 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:21,605 There. I'm gonna grab this. 286 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:23,899 I'm gonna see if we can connect with that. 287 00:16:27,611 --> 00:16:28,487 There. 288 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:38,539 -I'm looking like I'm gonna understand. -I know. I'm reading it. 289 00:16:38,622 --> 00:16:41,041 I'll verbalize it. I'm like, "What is going on?" 290 00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:42,918 Very interesting. 291 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:46,880 This seems different. 292 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:52,970 Okay. They're having me highlight female, not male. 293 00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:54,138 -Yeah. -Okay. 294 00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:58,017 It's kinda weird. She brings up this, like, the only way I can describe it 295 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,728 is an escalation, things escalating in some capacity. 296 00:17:00,811 --> 00:17:04,648 I'm trying to get more details 'cause it seems like an odd passing. 297 00:17:04,732 --> 00:17:07,234 I've brought through a lot of different ways people go. 298 00:17:07,317 --> 00:17:09,153 -This seems very weird. -Yeah. 299 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,241 There's interesting stuff. 300 00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:16,952 This is not your traditional reading, even as a medium. 301 00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:20,122 One thing that kinda came through that struck me on the way here. 302 00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:23,000 I was feeling really kind of mentally cloudy. 303 00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:24,084 That would make sense. 304 00:17:24,168 --> 00:17:27,171 So, if someone's drunk, or if somebody's, like, feels… 305 00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:29,256 I felt dizzy, is the only way to describe it. 306 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:30,674 I didn't feel clear of mind. 307 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,968 -Yeah. That resonates, for sure. -It does. 308 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:33,886 Okay. 309 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:43,896 You know, I'm seeing water spurting out, um, like a fountain. I don't know. 310 00:17:43,979 --> 00:17:49,401 I wonder if there were fountains nearby in any capacity. Um, I don't know. 311 00:17:56,992 --> 00:17:58,994 The time that this person passed, 312 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,121 there's this feeling of kind of, uh… 313 00:18:02,706 --> 00:18:03,540 Huh. 314 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:06,543 I don't… I feel kind of distanced from some people. 315 00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:11,924 There's people that she didn't know closely around her. 316 00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:15,010 I have to say this with certainty in the way this is coming across. 317 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,261 -In all honesty. -Okay. 318 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:20,432 I'm certain that there was this feeling of somebody being around 319 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:21,850 that I don't know very well. 320 00:18:22,768 --> 00:18:25,979 Like, when someone… even if a young person dies of cancer, 321 00:18:26,063 --> 00:18:27,981 people are able to be at the bedside, 322 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:30,025 -they do the send-off. -Expecting it. 323 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,361 I don't get that, in a traditional sense. 324 00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:35,447 So this feels like, I'm kind of taken, stolen, 325 00:18:35,531 --> 00:18:37,449 like, "my life is taken from me." 326 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,785 -I'm here then not-- -That makes a lot of sense. 327 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:41,286 -Yeah. -The way it comes across. 328 00:18:44,456 --> 00:18:46,208 Very interesting, around the passing, 329 00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:50,379 and I don't know why this is, but there's an emphasis on a celebratory feeling. 330 00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:54,133 So it's kind of a very dark dichotomy between someone dying, 331 00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:57,511 but then there's a celebration feeling, people living it up. 332 00:18:57,594 --> 00:18:59,179 I feel happy. I feel excited. 333 00:19:01,431 --> 00:19:03,684 Do you know? This is so irritating. 334 00:19:03,767 --> 00:19:07,563 I've been, this whole time, seeing musical references, and we're in a bar. 335 00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:09,857 Sometimes that'll do it, but there's more to it. 336 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:10,774 Yeah. 337 00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:13,360 It's just the mood doesn't match the death. 338 00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:18,448 There was music playing. You know. 339 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:19,992 -It makes sense. -It was abrupt. 340 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,870 Music was, like, her thing. 341 00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:25,455 She loved country music. 342 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:28,709 She loved to get up and dance and sing along. 343 00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:30,544 -Yeah. 344 00:19:35,048 --> 00:19:37,801 This is kinda weird. There, there, there. 345 00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:41,555 Do you have any "C" or "K" names connected to her? 346 00:19:41,638 --> 00:19:42,973 Mm-hmm. 347 00:19:43,056 --> 00:19:45,475 Getting very strong "ch, ch, ch" sound. 348 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:46,643 What was her name? 349 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,896 -It was Chrissy. -Gotcha. 350 00:19:49,479 --> 00:19:51,732 So who was this person for you? 351 00:19:51,815 --> 00:19:56,403 It was our sorority sister. So hence the stoles and all of that. 352 00:19:56,486 --> 00:20:00,032 I didn't realize what it was. They put it on people after they graduate? 353 00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:02,951 -I didn't graduate college. I don't know. -Yeah. 354 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:09,291 We were in the same business college. This was our sorority stole that you wore. 355 00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:13,253 -It's a decoration for when you graduate. -Okay. 356 00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:16,924 The last photos that we took with her, we were wearing them. 357 00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,592 -Yeah. -I love that. 358 00:20:19,259 --> 00:20:23,263 -She was such a cool girl. -Yeah. 359 00:20:23,347 --> 00:20:25,933 Amazing friend. Fun, fun energy. 360 00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:29,478 Fun, but so honest, even when you didn't want her to be. 361 00:20:29,978 --> 00:20:33,273 Just such a good presence to be around. 362 00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:36,360 That's really cool. Yeah, and special. 363 00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:37,402 Um… 364 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,532 Weird. There's, like, a book thing. 365 00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:43,659 Hmm… 366 00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:45,452 That's an interesting symbol. 367 00:20:47,955 --> 00:20:50,916 Do you know of the significance of the first of a month? 368 00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,751 -Mm-hmm. -Mm-hmm. 369 00:20:52,834 --> 00:20:55,837 She is gonna be honored in some capacity, 370 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:58,215 and I'm seeing what looks like a plaque, 371 00:20:58,298 --> 00:21:00,801 so trying to think how to word this. 372 00:21:00,884 --> 00:21:04,805 Set in stone is the way to describe it. Like, I feel like it's… 373 00:21:04,888 --> 00:21:07,015 There has to be… Remember that I'm saying this, 374 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,018 someone has either considered planting a tree in her memory 375 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:13,063 or is going to plant a tree, and it's a big thing. 376 00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:16,942 There's a ceremony. I'm seeing the dirt being dug, that whole thing. 377 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:19,069 That doesn't click, from what you know? 378 00:21:19,152 --> 00:21:21,405 -It totally clicks. Sorry. -It does click? Okay. 379 00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:23,657 There's a feeling of pride around it. 380 00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:25,826 It's being honored in a greater capacity. 381 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,165 I'm getting more with this. I'm getting the chills. 382 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:36,420 'Cause I'm seeing… I have all these people just bolting. 383 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:42,884 But I just feel like there's a lot of fear beyond what happened here. 384 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:47,347 When it comes to trying to get medical treatment in any capacity, 385 00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:49,141 they put a big red "X" through this. 386 00:21:49,224 --> 00:21:52,686 Anytime they do that, it always indicates that there was a delay 387 00:21:52,769 --> 00:21:54,604 for the severity of the situation. 388 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:58,567 -Related to when the police showed up. -A hundred percent. Yeah. 389 00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,444 There definitely was a delay. 390 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:03,739 I'm gonna keep going. 391 00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:10,829 This is kinda hard to explain, 392 00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:13,790 but the symbology that's coming through is I'm like… 393 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:17,544 I go from up to down. 394 00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:20,630 It just feels like I'm high and then low. 395 00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:21,965 -Physically. -Yeah. 396 00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:24,092 -Yeah. -That makes perfect sense. 397 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,552 -Okay. Good. -Yeah. 398 00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:30,474 There is a big thing in the way this comes across 399 00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:32,642 of sound ricocheting. 400 00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:36,521 And I know this is so weird, but there was an issue where sound… 401 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:39,483 I feel like I can't figure out where this is coming from, 402 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:41,109 is the only way to describe this. 403 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,904 -Yeah. -And when this comes through… 404 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,157 it's just this feeling of, I don't know where to look. 405 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,743 It's like I'm literally… Ugh. 406 00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:53,955 -There's a lot here. -Yeah. 407 00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,583 So, what happened? 408 00:22:57,334 --> 00:22:59,336 It was a live music event. 409 00:22:59,419 --> 00:23:01,546 And there was a mass shooting. 410 00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:06,551 -So everything you said makes sense. -Yeah. 411 00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:13,433 Hello, everyone. We continue our coverage now of the horrific shooting in Las Vegas. 412 00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,894 The deadliest in American history. 413 00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:17,813 A gunman opened fire last night, 414 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,107 shortly after ten o'clock, local time, 415 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,442 from the 32nd floor 416 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:27,322 of the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas, raining wave after wave of automatic fire. 417 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,283 There was a lot of people confused, running. 418 00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:32,828 Officer, Mandalay Bay halfway up. 419 00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:35,747 I see the shots coming from Mandalay Bay, halfway up. 420 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:39,584 -There was a lag in response time. -Getting-- 421 00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:43,088 Get out of here! Gun shots coming from over there. Go that way! 422 00:23:43,171 --> 00:23:44,548 Go, go. That way! That way! 423 00:23:44,631 --> 00:23:50,303 Sixty-one people passed away, but I think 500 were injured. 424 00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:53,098 There's a few memorials in different locations. 425 00:23:53,181 --> 00:23:57,394 -But a plaque is a resurrected thing. -It's what came to mind. 426 00:23:57,477 --> 00:23:59,479 People were enjoying the concert 427 00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:02,524 and left all of these things behind as they scurried. 428 00:24:02,607 --> 00:24:06,361 Right now, it's basically silent because of the tragic events that happened. 429 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,121 Are there any questions you have pertaining to this person? 430 00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:18,457 -Are you okay? -Yeah. 431 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:21,001 -Were you okay in the end? I don't know. -Yeah. 432 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:22,544 -You know? -Of course. 433 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,505 The way I'd describe this, when she comes through, 434 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:26,798 this happened so fast. 435 00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:29,593 She comes through with a sense of acceptance and peace. 436 00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:32,929 But I can't emphasize enough how much joy she comes through with. 437 00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:35,724 -Just overwhelming sense of peace. -That's amazing. 438 00:24:35,807 --> 00:24:38,143 -But, you know, it doesn't-- -That's comforting. 439 00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:40,645 I also understand it doesn't erase what happened. 440 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:43,732 -Yeah. -So thank you for sharing that. 441 00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:46,401 I know it's a hard thing to have to talk about. 442 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,738 It makes sense now, in context, why it was so kind of weird for me 443 00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:52,032 'cause it's not your traditional situation. 444 00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:55,535 But I hope that this also helps bring an awareness to gun violence. 445 00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,204 -I hope so. -You know, because… 446 00:24:57,287 --> 00:25:01,666 I can't tell you enough. They never want their death to define their life. 447 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:04,252 Within how she passed, there's gonna be opportunities 448 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,087 to bring awareness to bigger things. 449 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,089 It's gonna help a lot of people. 450 00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:09,925 -Thank you so much. -Of course. 451 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:14,179 Before you go, can you tell us next week's, like, lotto numbers? 452 00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:16,598 -They're on the back of this book. -They are? 453 00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:19,226 -Leave it here. Don't say it out loud. -If I showed you… 454 00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,353 -I'd have to bring you through. -That's fine. 455 00:25:21,436 --> 00:25:22,854 Yeah, exactly. 456 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:25,148 -If you need a drink, there's options. -We might. 457 00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:28,151 -Stay safe. Bye! -Have an amazing rest of your day. Bye! 458 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:32,656 I think it was nice to get that confirmation 459 00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,492 that, yeah, she is still beaming. 460 00:25:35,575 --> 00:25:36,993 She's still dancing around. 461 00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,871 -That's really what I wanted to hear. -Yeah. 462 00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:43,083 It was a sorority sister 463 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,627 who died in the Las Vegas shooting. 464 00:25:46,753 --> 00:25:49,923 On the way here, I was getting this feeling of inebriation. 465 00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,634 -People were drinking heavily. -'Cause you were saying… 466 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:55,262 Oh, yeah. You were saying, "Not clear in the head." 467 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:56,846 -And you weren't sure. -Yeah. 468 00:25:56,930 --> 00:26:00,183 When I sat there, I could tell she had been drinking. 469 00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:04,271 So she was giving you what it was like… 470 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:08,066 -Being there. -…being there, at the moment. 471 00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:10,610 Wow. 472 00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:28,461 I am fascinated by the idea 473 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:32,132 of any way that I can expedite what I do on a daily basis. 474 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:35,218 In my job, I scribble. 475 00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:37,596 It's how I connect. 476 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,557 If I can have a place I can go into before I do a reading, 477 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,143 that might help me get more clear impressions, 478 00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:44,477 of course I'm gonna try it. 479 00:26:48,898 --> 00:26:51,901 So I built the psychomanteum with my dad. 480 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:55,405 Yeah. Let's see what we got here. 481 00:26:56,406 --> 00:26:57,616 It's coming together. 482 00:26:58,116 --> 00:26:59,284 How does that feel? 483 00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:03,079 Oh, just so masculine. All the testosterone. 484 00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,542 Psychomanteum is based off of an ancient process 485 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,170 of communicating with higher forces, 486 00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:14,924 dating back to the Greek days, Ancient Greece, necropolises. 487 00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:17,385 Places where people would go, grieving people, 488 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,846 to connect with their loved ones who passed. 489 00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:24,476 The idea is that you would go into a space. 490 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,646 Back then, it was typically subterranean, under the ground, in caves, 491 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,231 and would be enshrouded in darkness. 492 00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,525 This would allow them to have experiences 493 00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:35,862 where they would see things or feel things they wouldn't normally. 494 00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:39,949 The psychomanteum emulates that in a more modern way. 495 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:51,378 The process involves going into the room and spending 45 minutes to an hour 496 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:52,754 gazing into a mirror, 497 00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:56,841 a mirror situated in a way that it doesn't reflect your reflection back at you. 498 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:00,053 Most people report seeing impressions. 499 00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:02,597 Sometimes they're colors. Sometimes they're symbols. 500 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,016 More interestingly, sometimes people will see faces 501 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,770 and full-on apparitions of people that they once knew, 502 00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,772 and sometimes people they didn't. 503 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:14,234 So my job as a medium feels like it's a natural segue 504 00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:17,153 into going to the space and trying to see what I can get. 505 00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:20,824 And if it'll differ from what an everyday person might receive. 506 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,012 For the first ten, fifteen minutes or so, 507 00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:47,600 it didn't really feel much, internally or externally. 508 00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:48,810 I didn't see anything. 509 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:53,022 And then, as it progressed, it actually got a little overwhelming. 510 00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,025 I felt something touch my shoulder. 511 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:59,529 I saw in the mirror, like, a hand. 512 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:05,034 I got a reference to a lady with a mole on her upper, like, lip area. 513 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:06,995 Weird. 514 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:17,046 There was a reference to, like, Greece, that I was seeing it in, like, 515 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:20,049 the word "Greece" in white letters. 516 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:24,596 Felt the presence of a grandfather figure, 517 00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:27,724 saw a man with brown hair that was, like, longer. 518 00:29:27,807 --> 00:29:28,808 Young or old? 519 00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:30,769 Um, young. Younger man. 520 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,562 Living, not dead. 521 00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:34,898 That was weird. I was expecting to see dead people. 522 00:29:34,981 --> 00:29:36,900 I was having visions of living people. 523 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,157 When I do a reading, I will touch on people who are both living and passed. 524 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,618 And as a medium, I talk to people who've passed. 525 00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:49,579 But oftentimes, their messages involve the living. 526 00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:50,830 People who are here. 527 00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:53,291 Through communicating with the other side, 528 00:29:53,374 --> 00:29:56,169 I can often get information about people who are still here. 529 00:29:56,252 --> 00:29:58,046 Their well-being, what they're up to, 530 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:01,132 what they've done, issues they're dealing with. 531 00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:02,926 Those messages are meaningful too. 532 00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:05,220 Doesn't always have to come from the other side. 533 00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:09,140 It was an experience, the closest thing to drugs I will ever do, 534 00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:13,269 …in all honesty. 'Cause, you know, I'm pretty vanilla. 535 00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:17,565 My biggest takeaway from the psychomanteum is that it can induce visions internally. 536 00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:19,234 That was not what I was expecting. 537 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:23,279 I was expecting anything significant I saw to be in the mirror in front of me, 538 00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:27,325 but it seems to act as a conduit to get a person in that state of mind 539 00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,118 where they're more receptive. 540 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:44,217 -Hello! -Hello! Good to see you! Yes. 541 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,552 It's Tyler. How are you? 542 00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:47,554 -Nice to meet you. -Lovely to meet you. 543 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,348 -Good. -Thank you for having me. It's beautiful. 544 00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:52,559 -Thank you for inviting us. -Absolutely. 545 00:30:52,642 --> 00:30:55,061 -Thank God it's not a dream anymore. -I know 546 00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:58,273 That I'm having a reading with you because I saw you in my dreams. 547 00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,774 Amazing! It was a premonition. 548 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,359 -It was meant to be. -Yeah. 549 00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:06,781 So I have something to tell you. Last night, I was testing out this room 550 00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:08,741 that I have where I meditate and connect. 551 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:12,245 -Okay. -I had no idea I was meeting with you. 552 00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:15,248 But I saw a reference to a Greek man, 553 00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:18,167 and I was seeing long, luxurious brown hair. 554 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:19,377 -Are you serious? -Yes. 555 00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:21,629 Clearly, this was divinely meant to happen. 556 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,132 It gives me the chills to even talk about. 557 00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,091 I'm very excited. 558 00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:28,928 I already have a lot coming in. I'm gonna try to get through that. 559 00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:31,764 My question is do you have anyone in common, 560 00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:33,141 or are you separate? 561 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:36,311 -I know them, but they're separate. -Okay. 562 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:37,937 They don't know each other. 563 00:31:38,021 --> 00:31:41,065 The producer says you can bring only one person, 564 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:42,567 and I said, "I can't choose." 565 00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:45,528 "I can't do that to my friend because I already told her." 566 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:48,615 "It's no way that I can take care of and bring someone else." 567 00:31:48,698 --> 00:31:51,367 "It's very important," I said. 568 00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:53,578 The next day, the producer called, saying, 569 00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:56,372 "Okay, you can bring second guest with you." 570 00:31:56,456 --> 00:31:59,542 Okay, that helps. I'm gonna separate in the way this comes across. 571 00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:00,877 -Did we bring objects? -Yes. 572 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,962 Cool. We can put them all out on the table. 573 00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:05,673 Perfect. Let me put that there. 574 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:08,426 What I'll do is I'll hold this first, if you don't mind. 575 00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:09,344 This one? Okay. 576 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:11,721 -And we'll see what comes out. -Okay. 577 00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:16,351 Okay. Okay. 578 00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:22,982 Do you have a connection to March? 579 00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:25,485 -Any birthdays? -My birthday on March. 580 00:32:25,568 --> 00:32:28,571 -Okay, cool. Random. All right. -Yeah. 581 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:29,697 Um… 582 00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:33,159 I see. 583 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,161 Huh. 584 00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:37,747 I wonder, do you know of any Christos? 585 00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:39,916 -Christos? Yes. -Who would that be? 586 00:32:39,999 --> 00:32:41,000 It's my father. 587 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:43,753 -Your father? -My God. It's so weird. 588 00:32:43,836 --> 00:32:46,673 -Yeah. I know, it's spooky. -It's so weird, that conversation. 589 00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:50,760 So interesting. Okay, so I'm gonna keep going here. Okay. 590 00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:57,976 Okay. I have this mother figure that comes in 591 00:32:58,059 --> 00:33:00,061 that isn't for you, but for one of you two. 592 00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:02,772 Somebody who basically would have been, like, 593 00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:05,316 the biggest mom figure in the world, It's how I can describe it. 594 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,653 I don't know why it comes in so strongly, but I have to highlight that. 595 00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:10,154 That. Okay. 596 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,619 Do either of you have any connections familially to New York at all? 597 00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:17,996 -You said New York? -Yes. 598 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,247 Not New York City. 599 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,457 -Correct. The state of New York. -Okay. 600 00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:23,626 It's really interesting when it comes across. 601 00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,462 She references a number of females that are connected to her. 602 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:29,841 When that happens, it'll refer to if somebody has a number of daughters, 603 00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:32,468 if there's the two or three girls in the family, 604 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:35,013 basically a lot of… gives me a lot of estrogen. 605 00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:36,889 -Right. -Strong female characters. 606 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,350 -Do you know if she had any children? -Yes. 607 00:33:39,434 --> 00:33:41,394 -Do you know if she had girls? -Yes. 608 00:33:41,477 --> 00:33:45,732 All good. Would have been at least… I keep going, like, two to three. 609 00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:47,233 -How many? Two? -Yes. 610 00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:51,112 -She has one that she gave birth to. -Gotcha. 611 00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,114 And she adopted one. 612 00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,657 I love that. Okay, gotcha. 613 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,534 Huh. Weird. 614 00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:01,622 She gives me this impression of being okay with her duration of life. 615 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,750 The thing that happened is interesting. 616 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:07,295 Some people were geographically distanced at the time of her death. 617 00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:09,672 -They just received word that she passed. -What? 618 00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:10,923 -Oh my God. -It's weird. 619 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:12,842 She's like, "It's fine. Not a big deal." 620 00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,344 I get a very much matter-of-fact feeling 621 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:17,972 of, "It's okay. I don't need people to be there." 622 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:21,517 -That is true. That is absolutely true. -So that's something that-- 623 00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,187 Let me see what this is 624 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:28,399 'cause she's bringing up a situation where she passes, 625 00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:31,027 but then somebody is not able to be there. 626 00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,405 So where were you and where was she at the time of her passing? 627 00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:36,991 -In Neuilly, France. -So you were together? 628 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:38,117 -Together. -Gotcha. 629 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:42,121 When we talk about her kids, the two girls, was anybody not there? 630 00:34:42,205 --> 00:34:43,289 Did they not make it? 631 00:34:43,372 --> 00:34:45,625 -None of her kids were there. -Okay. 632 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,336 -But at her request. -Yes, yes, yes. 633 00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:50,088 Okay. There's that. 634 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,798 That's weird. 635 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:54,717 Hmm. 636 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,720 So this is going to sound weird, 637 00:34:57,804 --> 00:34:59,806 but there's some connection… 638 00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:01,474 I keep getting 639 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:03,726 kind of a famous feeling. 640 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:05,478 Any time I get a famous feeling, 641 00:35:05,561 --> 00:35:09,732 it indicates that somebody's either renowned or connected to celebrities, 642 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,610 or connected to an iconic historical figure 643 00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:15,029 or… you kinda get the gist with it. 644 00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,239 You're right on. 645 00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:18,658 -Talking about kind of the big life. -Yes. 646 00:35:18,741 --> 00:35:22,495 In the way it comes across. Feels regal, is the way I'd describe it. 647 00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:23,454 That's a good word. 648 00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:28,000 I was just gonna say, somebody is either related… 649 00:35:28,084 --> 00:35:31,129 I think she either met royalty, knew royalty, 650 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:32,964 something about that crosses paths. 651 00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:36,300 When we think of celebrities on TV, I'm not getting that feeling. 652 00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:39,095 I'm talking about dignitaries. People of status. 653 00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:41,764 And that comes through. There's an interesting reference, 654 00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,350 and this may not click. I think there's a Ruth. 655 00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,102 -You know the name Ruth? -Oh yes. 656 00:35:46,185 --> 00:35:47,812 -Do you know who Ruth is? -Yes. 657 00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,564 -Are you kidding me? 658 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,733 Yeah, so, I have to highlight Ruth, in the way this comes across. 659 00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:53,943 Really interesting lady. 660 00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:56,821 Clearly comes across like a force of nature. 661 00:35:56,904 --> 00:35:59,824 -I want you to know that. -She's been called that before. 662 00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:02,994 -I believe it. Yes. -She's been known for that. 663 00:36:03,077 --> 00:36:04,996 So I'm curious to know who Mom is. 664 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,625 Okay. So she was like my mother, my grandmother, my best friend, 665 00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,502 and I learned so much. 666 00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:13,713 -Now, you're very young. -Yes. 667 00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:15,006 So you might not know. 668 00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:19,427 -But that's… this is who she is. -What? 669 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:20,595 -Yes. -What? 670 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:24,390 Are you kidding me? Oh! Whoa!