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Hey, Tyler!
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Tyler, got your coffee.
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-Hi, honey.
-Good morning.
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Oh, Tyler. Good morning.
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-How's it going?
-How are you?
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-I'm doing dandy. You got me coffee.
-You got your good stuff.
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-Thank you.
-Everything good?
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-Yeah. I'll start getting ready.
-All right.
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Okay. I'm gonna leave you alone
so you can kinda relax for a minute.
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Okay.
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I pulled some cards
to see what today's reading's all about.
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-Really?
-Yeah.
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-What do you think?
-Want me to show you?
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-Yes.
-Come here.
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Sorry.
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So, I don't typically do
tarot before readings,
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but sometimes when I'm needing
a little help, or I'm feeling tired,
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it helps me clarify
what I'm likely to pick up on.
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The person that will come through
is the Queen of Wands.
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That means they have a dead mother.
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Oh, wow.
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The reference that comes through first to,
like, children, kids,
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so it would be
a mother-daughter situation.
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All this indicates that there was
some degree of knowingness
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leading up to the passing.
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-Okay.
-Not something that's shocking.
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But Queen of Wands
is the main emphasis here.
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So my bet is…
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…it's gonna be a reading
for a mom who passed.
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All right. Do we know
what I'm wearing today?
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-Yeah. Do you have on chonies?
-"Chonies?"
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Got on panties.
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-Your brookies. In Dutch, it's "brookies."
-My panties.
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My lace panties.
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All right, you gotta pay more
to get this scene.
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I'll be right back. I'm gonna change.
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How much you wanna bet it'll be a mother?
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-What are we gonna bet?
-I don't know.
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You'll go out to dinner with me?
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-No. No, no.
-In public?
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No? We'll see.
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I'm craving lobster.
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-I'm concentrating.
-I mean… Okay.
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-Things coming through.
-All right.
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Got like a, uh…
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-Tell me.
-Something that you'd put on your shirt.
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It's an old lady thing.
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-A brooch.
-A brooch of some sort, probably.
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I feel very old and skinny.
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There's a reference to a surgery.
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And then that kinda
sets the stage for a decline.
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Hello.
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-Hi!
-Hi, Tyler.
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-How's it goin'?
-Good, thank you.
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Oh! What a cutie.
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-Yes.
-How are you?
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-I'm Tyler. It's lovely to meet you.
-Adell. Nice to meet you too.
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-This is Victor.
-Hello, Victor. How are you doing?
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Precious. All right.
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-Got our little friend over here. Aw.
-Yes, we do. Come on, bud.
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So, basically, my job as a medium
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is to communicate everything
that comes through. I'm big on specifics,
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details, information that there's no way
I could know through other means.
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I don't see dead people walking around
or anything like that.
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-That would be terrifying.
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Sometimes people will come through
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and have messages for someone living
that you know also.
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So just keeping your mind open,
in the sense of anyone can come in.
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-Okay.
-So did you bring any objects today?
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I did. Yes.
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Amazing.
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Okay.
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Adell, Adell, Adell, Adell, Adell.
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Okay. All right.
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Adell, Adell, Adell, Adell.
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Separate from these objects,
I wanna talk about your family,
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people you know. I have this old lady
coming through…
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…who I can tell
lived to be very, very, very old.
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When we talk about
in grandparent level, grandma,
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do you have any really old family members,
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who lived to be really old,
that would be female in the family?
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I don't know what you consider really old.
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-Um…
-Yeah. Who is this person?
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Weird. Wonder if this is related
to the place we're at.
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It's weird. This location has
a very different feeling than your energy.
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So, obviously, we're at a house.
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Mm-hm.
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Is this not your house?
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-No.
-It's not yours.
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Yeah, 'cause I'm not…
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-The energy of the house feels different.
-Yeah.
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This house belongs
to a friend of mine, Michelle.
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She has a very serene
and calming backyard.
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Got that.
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Maybe this person
isn't coming through for you.
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Okay, gonna keep going. Um…
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Okay. I have this reference
to a bit of a premature passing
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that I have to bring up,
and this would be pertinent to a male.
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So when someone passes,
you know, 75 to 85.
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That's age-appropriate. That's normal.
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This guy that I'm having to talk about
passed away earlier,
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and he didn't get to see a full life.
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-Is there a male connected to these?
-Yes.
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How old was he when he passed?
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Two days from 15 years old.
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Fifteen. He feels very glad
that you showed up
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because he's bringing up
this feeling of relief, relief, relief.
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Like, wanting to connect with you.
He is bringing up a couple things.
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Okay. Weird, Weird, Weird.
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He keeps bringing up "one and only,"
"one and only."
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Oh! I used to tell him that.
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-Yeah.
-He would leave a note for me.
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Or I'd leave a note for him,
like sticky notes?
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They were his thing from…
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-Yeah, I would sign "Love, One and Only."
-Yeah.
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He keeps showing me
lot of references, like academics.
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But like, he feels kind
of very unlike the other kids.
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He gives me, in all honesty, the feeling
of almost being a brilliant mind.
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Mm-hmm.
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I feel like I'm already,
kind of at a young age,
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looking at, "Where am I gonna go?"
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"What college am…"
Like, very much a passion there.
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-Yeah.
-Makes sense?
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It does. He actually came to me
at the age of nine, and he was telling me,
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"Mom, I'm gonna go to Yale."
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-He was going to be an engineer.
-Yeah.
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-What was your son's name?
-Tomari.
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-Tomari.
-Tomari Alijah.
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Okay. I'm trying to get him
to talk about what happened.
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Okay, let me underscore that.
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We'll see if this helps. Weird thing.
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Okay. Um, were you away
from him at the time that he passed?
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-Yes. He was out of the country.
-Okay.
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Okay. Oh, out of… Oh! Got you.
He was in a completely different--
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Country.
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Without giving too much away,
was anyone around him at the time?
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Yes.
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The way this is coming through,
the response from the people around him
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felt kinda immature.
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It's like how a child would respond
to something bad happening.
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The people around him, were they younger?
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Yeah.
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He's giving me this feeling of,
like, scrambling.
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So anytime I see scrambling,
it usually indicates,
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"I'm here," and then
someone running, leaving,
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don't wanna be where they're at.
Do you know if anybody like fled?
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-Yes.
-'Cause I feel like I'm--
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-Everybody.
-Everybody? Gotcha.
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-I'm so sorry.
-Yeah.
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In the way this comes through,
this happens,
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we don't know how to deal with it.
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-Everyone's going different directions.
-They left him until the next day.
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Oh my God, the next day.
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-Mm-hmm.
-I'm so sorry.
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Don't know why I feel like
I can't catch my breath.
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It feels… I don't know what this is.
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It feels similar to when
the wind gets knocked out of you.
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But I can't…
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Like, let air into my lungs
and then release it.
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Do you know if there were
any breathing issues in his situation?
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Yes.
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I guess at this point, this might be
a chance to tell me what happened.
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He drowned.
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-He drowned?
-Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A field trip took a turn for the worse
when a teenager actually died.
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Tomari was on
Cobb High School's annual trip to Belize.
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The students had just landed.
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Prior to going to the hotel,
they stopped at the Sibun River.
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Tomari was equipped with a GoPro,
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which captured everything,
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including his drowning.
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I was told that
nobody saw what happened to Tomari.
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Yet on the camera,
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I saw at least 15 people looking at him.
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If you watch that video,
it feels as though
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you're looking through his eyes.
He had it here,
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and you can see every turn he made.
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I saw him asking for help.
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Like, calling out for help. Like, "Help!"
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He literally touched someone twice,
and they pushed his hand away.
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Like, they pushed his hand.
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All it took was
an extension of someone's hand,
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and they didn't do it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I'm thinking, no one said anything.
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The kids that were around
didn't tell the adults.
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-Yeah.
-But the adults didn't miss him.
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That's another thing.
They didn't realize he was missing,
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so they went back
to where they were staying
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before they realized.
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The way this was handled
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made me feel like
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my son's life wasn't valued.
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Like, I just wanna say,
"No, he really was something special."
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"He may not have been to you, but…"
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He meant the world… to…
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He just…
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He brings up, um, accountability,
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and I… you know,
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there's some greater accountability
that should have been taken,
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that just wasn't taken.
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-And I don't think it's going to be taken.
-Absolutely.
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And that's kind of the frustrating thing.
It's like, even beyond people's reactions,
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it's bigger than just the people
that were there that day.
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It's so frustrating, and, um…
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He's wanting you to know,
he's not angry at the people who fled.
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The people who didn't do anything,
and should've.
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-Right.
-But…
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he… doesn't want you to be angry.
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He feels like you have
a whole life ahead of you
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and a lot of positive things
to experience.
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He just doesn't want his passing
to define how we think of his life.
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-All right.
-You know.
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He's okay, you know?
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Well, that's good to know.
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Before the reading,
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I felt as though
I was grasping or guessing
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about what's going on
with Tomari since his transition.
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However, getting that affirmation
is very comforting.
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I definitely feel like
I, I communicated with my son today.
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I have something to tell you.
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Then tell me.
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That was really just a lot.
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Okay.
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I have to tell you.
Do you know the owner of this house?
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No, this is one of her friends.
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Oh.
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As I was connecting with that reading,
I had another distinct impression
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connected to the house coming through.
Someone who lived to an old age
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that was coming through
in the car ride here.
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The person who has this house,
I'm convinced their mother has died.
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Their mother was trying to come through
right in front of that little shed there.
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This lady will not leave me alone.
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She's coming through.
She has a very brief message,
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but it's important.
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Okay, Uh, Lisa,
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ask the woman who owns this house
to come outside right now, please.
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And go towards the driveway.
José, come with me.
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Let's get these two cameras.
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-We just asked the woman to come out.
-Okay.
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-She's gonna keep her mask on.
-Okay, great.
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So let's just keep a distance.
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00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:36,857
Yeah. Hi! How's it goin'?
245
00:13:36,941 --> 00:13:37,900
I'm wonderful.
246
00:13:37,983 --> 00:13:39,527
Good.
247
00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:41,403
I so admire your work.
248
00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:44,490
-I'm a real believer in all of this.
-Thank you.
249
00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:48,285
I was reading my client here, and as
I was trying to connect with her people,
250
00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:52,164
I had this lovely little lady
comin' through for you.
251
00:13:52,248 --> 00:13:55,084
It's the weirdest thing
because she's so cute.
252
00:13:55,167 --> 00:13:58,254
-She felt thin when she passed, old.
-Yes.
253
00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,632
-She wanted to connect with her daughter.
-That's my mother.
254
00:14:01,715 --> 00:14:03,884
She needed you to know. She put me right…
255
00:14:03,968 --> 00:14:05,845
-See that shed over there?
-Yes!
256
00:14:05,928 --> 00:14:07,513
When I walked by there, she was--
257
00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:10,558
She stood there and had her picture taken
when she was here!
258
00:14:13,352 --> 00:14:15,479
She was showing me
costume jewelry.
259
00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:17,731
I don't know if she loved costume jewelry,
260
00:14:17,815 --> 00:14:20,693
but she was, like, fabulous,
in the way it comes across.
261
00:14:20,776 --> 00:14:24,905
She loved jewelry. You know, kinda funky,
little bit cheap in some ways,
262
00:14:24,989 --> 00:14:27,616
but she loved it.
Yeah, you are just so spot on.
263
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,828
And she kept showing me all these Ms.
Different--
264
00:14:30,911 --> 00:14:34,081
I'm Michelle. Michael, Matthew,
those are my two sons.
265
00:14:34,164 --> 00:14:36,375
Gotcha. It was the funniest thing
266
00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:39,044
'cause she was coming across
so proud and beaming
267
00:14:39,128 --> 00:14:41,422
about something
that your son's done in a big way.
268
00:14:41,505 --> 00:14:43,215
-Just so happy.
-Oh my God!
269
00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:46,844
And she also brought up
this feeling of having to get a surgery
270
00:14:46,927 --> 00:14:48,929
and a surgery kicking off a decline.
271
00:14:49,013 --> 00:14:50,306
-Or a series of things.
-Yes!
272
00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:53,017
The surgery's a big thing
because it's quite a surprise.
273
00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,561
We had no choice.
She would have passed without it.
274
00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:59,648
We were hoping it would've helped her.
It tailspinned into it within eight weeks.
275
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:02,902
Yeah, 'cause she put a lot of sense
of peace around her passing.
276
00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,738
It feels like that surgery
was the catalyst.
277
00:15:05,821 --> 00:15:08,782
-It did. That's what kicked in.
-It all went downhill from there.
278
00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:13,162
She was so cute and so lovely.
She's absolutely with you. And she's okay.
279
00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:14,538
-My God.
-She's so cute.
280
00:15:14,622 --> 00:15:17,750
-I want to take her home with me.
-She is cute.
281
00:15:17,833 --> 00:15:19,752
-Thank you so much!
-I love it.
282
00:15:19,835 --> 00:15:22,129
-Thank you! Bye!
-Have a good day.
283
00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:27,176
Hey, so I, I won the bet.
284
00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:29,136
-You did?
-The mother came through.
285
00:15:29,219 --> 00:15:31,847
It wasn't for the client.
It was her friend in the house.
286
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:35,225
-Oh my God.
-All in a day's work.
287
00:15:35,309 --> 00:15:37,770
-You owe me ten bucks.
-Oh my goodness.
288
00:15:47,112 --> 00:15:49,114
-All right, I'm ready.
-Let's go.
289
00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:54,912
I haven't seen my aunt and uncle
for a while. I don't go to Hanford often.
290
00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:57,373
It doesn't evoke very
happy memories for me.
291
00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:00,334
-Hopefully they have some answers.
-Yeah.
292
00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:02,252
Or at least can give
their perspectives.
293
00:16:04,213 --> 00:16:06,924
I'm going back because
I wanna learn more about
294
00:16:07,007 --> 00:16:09,927
what happened to my mom's family.
295
00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:13,347
Like, obviously, this discovery
with my mom,
296
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:16,934
finding out that Stella had obtained
my mom somehow,
297
00:16:17,017 --> 00:16:19,770
you know, at some point.
I just don't understand why--
298
00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:24,441
All I know is that she went away.
She left and went to Louisiana.
299
00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:27,152
And when she came back, she had Theresa.
300
00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:30,990
-So we assumed that she had Theresa.
-Yeah.
301
00:16:31,073 --> 00:16:32,658
-And she was our sister.
-Yeah.
302
00:16:32,741 --> 00:16:35,744
Theresa took a test,
and it came back
303
00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:37,204
that Mom wasn't
304
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,164
her mom.
305
00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:44,545
Pete and I were totally shocked,
because, I mean,
306
00:16:44,628 --> 00:16:47,464
you know, you grow up with this…
She's my… you know,
307
00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:48,674
she's our sister.
308
00:16:49,591 --> 00:16:52,428
It's funny,
because we're growing up as kids,
309
00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:53,887
and Theresa's white.
310
00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:58,225
That, you know, that never…
that didn't cross my mind.
311
00:16:58,308 --> 00:17:01,186
You know, Theresa was born.
My mom was dating a white man,
312
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:05,065
and I was never suspecting anything
because there was nothing to suspect.
313
00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:09,278
She had a motive to take her.
But what it was, she's never said.
314
00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:10,779
And we didn't know.
315
00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:15,701
And she never went to our school functions
or any kind of things like that.
316
00:17:15,784 --> 00:17:18,871
-Never took us to the dentist, doctors.
-Anything.
317
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:23,542
You know, I protected Theresa
'cause that was my little sister.
318
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:25,335
And who protected you?
319
00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:26,295
Felicia.
320
00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:31,467
Yeah, Felicia, uh…
321
00:17:37,931 --> 00:17:41,143
Felicia, she, uh, she protected me.
322
00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:44,605
I mean, she was there.
I, I think if Felicia wasn't there,
323
00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:45,856
I wouldn't be here.
324
00:17:47,232 --> 00:17:49,401
I know with everything
you've gone through,
325
00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:52,946
I just… been filling the blanks,
when I get a better understanding of,
326
00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:56,158
what the one moment was
that changed your life?
327
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:58,911
I think it's when I…
328
00:18:00,996 --> 00:18:02,664
I think when I went to jail.
329
00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:16,887
I had kind of, like,
I had everything going for me.
330
00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:19,681
I wanted to be a police officer.
331
00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:22,434
And my first year,
I was giving out tickets,
332
00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:26,105
and I was working, uh, football games.
333
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:30,609
I loved it.
I… I was only 18 for a couple months
334
00:18:30,692 --> 00:18:34,029
before my mother,
you know, took what I wanted,
335
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,365
what I had in my future, away from me.
336
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:58,178
My dream was to become
a cop and just have a family…
337
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:01,265
…and just retire and enjoy…
338
00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:04,601
…enjoy your grandkids.
339
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,326
It might be healing for Peter
to go to the motel.
340
00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:25,455
I hope that it might help him
get a little bit more closure.
341
00:19:25,539 --> 00:19:28,625
Might bring up
some new things through new eyes.
342
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:43,724
I always wondered what it would be like
to come to this place.
343
00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:46,894
This is where the crime happened.
344
00:19:47,394 --> 00:19:48,896
I'm really nervous.
345
00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:53,066
This one place changed
my entire family forever.
346
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:56,528
It created a ripple effect
that went through generations.
347
00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:04,036
People knew who my grandmother was,
and I was made fun of for it.
348
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,914
People said,
"Oh, your grandma's the murderer."
349
00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:08,081
Um…
350
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:09,416
A lot of horrible things.
351
00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:11,251
This is definitely the place.
352
00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:16,506
So growing up, I would always have
nightmares of this single-story building,
353
00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,134
hearing these horrible noises
coming from another room.
354
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,803
It's all very, very traumatizing as a kid.
355
00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:26,099
And as I'm looking at the motel,
it looks like the nightmares I had.
356
00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:29,186
I'm getting increasingly lightheaded.
357
00:20:29,269 --> 00:20:32,898
If it's this intense for me,
I can only imagine how it is for Peter.
358
00:20:34,524 --> 00:20:36,526
-Man.
-Wow.
359
00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:39,404
Wow.
360
00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:46,036
It's right here. Yeah.
This is where it all happened.
361
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,956
Wow.
362
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:55,170
I'm home sleeping,
and I get… my mom calls me.
363
00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:58,799
And she tells me, you know,
if you could come to Fowler,
364
00:20:58,882 --> 00:21:00,550
where my mother worked.
365
00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:02,719
Tells me she wanted to show me somethin'.
366
00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:05,305
-And--
-That's how she broke it to you?
367
00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:08,100
-"I need to show you somethin'?"
-Yeah, like it was nothing.
368
00:21:08,183 --> 00:21:09,101
Jesus.
369
00:21:10,477 --> 00:21:13,021
And right next to the office, uh,
370
00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,315
she showed me John and Judy's bodies.
371
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:23,532
So, you got two bodies tied up
in this little tiny room.
372
00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:25,993
I saw the, the, the, uh…
373
00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:30,580
the blood from the head,
you know, from the… right here,
374
00:21:30,664 --> 00:21:32,916
and I, I see, you know, their face.
375
00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:39,298
Her story was that
there were four Mexicans.
376
00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:40,966
They killed John and Judy.
377
00:21:41,049 --> 00:21:44,594
And if I go to the police,
uh, they're gonna kill me
378
00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:46,054
and, you know, the family.
379
00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:52,352
And then me and my mom, you know,
we dragged… We dragged the bodies,
380
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:55,063
you know, back there, one at a time.
381
00:21:56,773 --> 00:21:59,776
I think my mother's plan
was to kill the owners
382
00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:03,363
and, uh, start running the hotel.
383
00:22:05,282 --> 00:22:08,368
In many ways,
yeah, there were two victims,
384
00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:11,330
but in a greater sense,
you were also a victim in this.
385
00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:13,749
I trusted her. You obey your parents.
386
00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:17,627
You know, I mean, that's in the Bible.
I mean, and that's all I knew.
387
00:22:17,711 --> 00:22:21,423
And I took for face value that,
hey, my family's in trouble.
388
00:22:21,506 --> 00:22:26,762
And, uh, look, I would do
what I have to do to protect my family.
389
00:22:27,637 --> 00:22:31,475
Is there anything you wish
you could have… told them?
390
00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:33,268
Is there anything that comes to mind?
391
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:38,023
Yeah, I would really tell
John and Judy that I'm really sorry,
392
00:22:38,523 --> 00:22:41,777
you know, what happened to them
because they didn't deserve this.
393
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:48,200
-I got out ahead because I'm still alive.
-Yeah.
394
00:22:48,283 --> 00:22:51,370
-Poor John and Judy didn't have a choice.
-Yeah.
395
00:22:52,621 --> 00:22:55,874
But since, you know,
you connect with the other side,
396
00:22:55,957 --> 00:22:57,084
do you feel anything?
397
00:22:57,167 --> 00:23:00,587
Maybe, you know, John, Judy energy.
398
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:04,466
You know,
really more just cold, in all honesty.
399
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:06,468
It's freezing. But, yeah.
400
00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:09,638
I always wondered what it would be like
to come to this place,
401
00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:13,392
and I don't think
those poor people who died here
402
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,602
are lingering here or stuck here.
403
00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:16,812
They're far away.
404
00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:20,107
I'm relieved I'm not getting impressions.
405
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,609
I wouldn't even know
what to do if I got them.
406
00:23:22,692 --> 00:23:25,028
Would I share them or hold on to them?
407
00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:27,781
It would just further complicate matters.
408
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:30,575
In this case, I just prefer to observe.
409
00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:39,584
That was just, like, so surreal for me
to hear for the first time.
410
00:23:40,168 --> 00:23:44,381
I mean, this is something
that had always been a story in my family,
411
00:23:44,464 --> 00:23:47,676
but not something I'd ever heard
Peter say or describe.
412
00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,429
-Oh, you know it.
-Yeah, you know what?
413
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:55,892
This place almost always had,
like, a mythical quality.
414
00:23:55,976 --> 00:24:00,021
The way that I envisioned it,
it was like a… monster.
415
00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:01,189
I had a lot of shame,
416
00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:05,402
and I know my mom had a lot of shame
about what transpired here, but…
417
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,322
where I'm standing now, I let it go.
418
00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:13,410
And I hope this is a step
in Peter being able to let it go.
419
00:24:13,493 --> 00:24:14,453
And my mom,
420
00:24:15,203 --> 00:24:18,665
and all the generations of people
who are affected by what happened here.
421
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,049
Ugh.
422
00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:32,762
Man, I feel like I stirred things up
inside me that I'm gonna have to like…
423
00:24:34,097 --> 00:24:39,978
I should probably see a therapist,
but it's like, all very… heavy.
424
00:24:40,645 --> 00:24:42,772
I have to go home, look my mom in the eye,
425
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:45,942
and I just wanna burst into tears,
crying for her.
426
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:51,323
I just, uh… it's a lot to process.
427
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,123
-How's it going?
-My goodness. Look at you.
428
00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:03,376
-Give me a hug.
-Oh, I'm so proud of you, Tyler.
429
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,338
I just feel deep sadness
for everybody involved.
430
00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:11,009
But for my mom, who I think of all of them
has processed things the least.
431
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:14,137
-Anyway, I'm sorry.
-Yeah, I know.
432
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:18,975
Anyways, today had to be
a really heavy day for you.
433
00:25:20,227 --> 00:25:21,978
There are still secrets
to this day,
434
00:25:22,062 --> 00:25:24,814
things that my mom has said
on her deathbed she'll tell me.
435
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:28,568
And I can't imagine what those things are,
436
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:31,112
hearing what I just heard today
from her siblings.
437
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:34,950
He had to be under so much stress.
Imagine being eighteen-years old,
438
00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:37,035
and thinking your life
is gonna go one way.
439
00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:40,455
Not only did he not have
any parental guidance…
440
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,833
-Mm-hmm.
-…Stella put him in such danger.
441
00:25:43,917 --> 00:25:47,379
There was all this neglect
in every way that you can imagine,
442
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:50,215
and then we never had food in our house.
443
00:25:50,298 --> 00:25:53,510
We never had food,
and I can't even figure that out.
444
00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:57,681
Kyle always had a job.
So he was a piece of shit,
445
00:25:57,764 --> 00:25:59,724
but he always had a job. Sometimes two.
446
00:25:59,808 --> 00:26:00,642
Yeah.
447
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:04,062
The man I thought was my father,
448
00:26:04,145 --> 00:26:07,315
oddly enough, we have
the same big brown eyes.
449
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,110
People would always say,
"You look just like your dad."
450
00:26:10,193 --> 00:26:14,698
And, I mean, I heard that over and over.
So, I really thought I was his daughter,
451
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:16,950
and he hurt all of us.
452
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:35,844
I have "Obsessed"
by Mariah Carey stuck in my head,
453
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:37,804
and she has such an annoying voice to me,
454
00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:39,889
but yet, I listen to her music.
455
00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:42,767
-I don't know what's going on there.
-You don't like…
456
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,936
She's like,
will make all the china break.
457
00:26:46,146 --> 00:26:48,315
I don't know.
She has me. It's because I'm gay.
458
00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:50,734
I think gay men are destined
to like Mariah Carey.
459
00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:54,029
-Because it's in our makeup.
-Really?
460
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:57,657
The hormones that make you gay
in the womb, I think she's responsible.
461
00:26:57,741 --> 00:27:00,452
-It gets dispersed around Christmastime.
-Oh.
462
00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:12,464
I just love it out here.
This is just so therapeutic.
463
00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:14,633
Like, I could just sit out here-- What?
464
00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:17,427
-Are you freaking kidding me?
-What?
465
00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:22,515
-Hello.
-Oh, yeah.
466
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:23,767
-Wow.
-How's it goin'?
467
00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:26,353
- Good. Nice to meet you.
-Lovely to meet you.
468
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,438
-Nice to meet you.
-Wonderful to meet you.
469
00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:30,940
-Thank you for having me today.
-This is crazy.
470
00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:34,402
I'm interested to hear a little bit about
471
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,571
what's going on.
472
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,407
I've actually kept this secret
for a little over a year.
473
00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:41,034
-Aw. Amazing.
474
00:27:41,117 --> 00:27:42,661
And it's not been easy.
475
00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:45,413
Yeah. Were you expecting this today?
476
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,666
-Not at all. I had no--
-So this is a surprise.
477
00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:49,250
-Yeah. Big time.
-Yes.
478
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,252
Amazing. Well, I'm glad to be here.
479
00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:52,504
-Thank you.
-Of course.
480
00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:55,965
I'm gonna take a minute with myself.
I'm gonna meditate.
481
00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:59,177
And we're gonna see what comes in. Okay.
482
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:02,097
Hmm-hmm-hmm.
483
00:28:03,598 --> 00:28:04,516
Hmm.
484
00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:08,228
There's this individual
that I'm interested in
485
00:28:08,311 --> 00:28:12,107
that isn't striking me as bio-family.
486
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,609
This is somebody who is not
biologically related to us,
487
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,695
I have to bring up as being significant.
488
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:20,198
This person clearly gives me
this feeling of being on the same level.
489
00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:22,283
And so anytime I get that, it's always…
490
00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:25,870
when it is family,
it's brother, cousin, that kinda thing.
491
00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:30,166
If it's not family, it can sometimes be
partner, friend, that kind of thing,
492
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:33,878
and it seemed significant just
from even the second I sat down, but then…
493
00:28:35,463 --> 00:28:36,965
It's kind of interesting.
494
00:28:38,758 --> 00:28:42,220
Premature. I have
this premature passing coming through.
495
00:28:42,303 --> 00:28:46,516
Premature always refers to someone
who died before they were able to get old.
496
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,018
Like, I'm here, and then I'm gone.
It feels very fast.
497
00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:51,563
So I wouldn't pin it
as something like an illness,
498
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:54,107
something that we had preparedness for.
499
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:59,154
Do you have somebody who passed
away kind of prematurely?
500
00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:03,032
I have someone
that was a partner that
501
00:29:03,783 --> 00:29:05,076
passed away premature.
502
00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:10,707
Okay. Uh, in life, you know, people
go through a lot of different things.
503
00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:13,668
And at the time
that this individual passed,
504
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,880
it almost felt like things were
coming together in a big way,
505
00:29:16,963 --> 00:29:18,673
finally, and I hear "finally."
506
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:21,593
So that's kind of
the weird thing with this.
507
00:29:21,676 --> 00:29:26,055
Uh, without giving much away,
can you explain just a little bit there?
508
00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:28,391
I feel very much like I'm wandering.
509
00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:31,978
Uh, I was in the Marine Corps,
stationed Camp Lejeune,
510
00:29:32,061 --> 00:29:35,899
living in, um, coastal
Wilmington, North Carolina.
511
00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:37,984
-Carolina.
-And I met this person.
512
00:29:38,067 --> 00:29:39,527
And we hit it off.
513
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:43,031
I'm gonna look at my notes from earlier
'cause I had on the way here…
514
00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:46,826
I'll show you if I have it.
It was a reference to "Caro"…
515
00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,120
Do you see that right there? "Carolina"?
516
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:51,748
So it's interesting you said
there's a "Carolina."
517
00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:54,209
Yeah, that's where we met.
That's where we lived.
518
00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:56,586
Well, we're gonna keep going.
There's more to this.
519
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,255
What was his first name?
520
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:01,049
His first name is Jamie.
521
00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:04,385
-But he went by his middle name.
-Okay.
522
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:05,929
His middle name is Duwyann.
523
00:30:06,012 --> 00:30:08,807
I was about to ask
you if somebody went by "J."
524
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:11,351
But I felt that'd be wrong.
Then I was writing "J-A,"
525
00:30:11,434 --> 00:30:15,104
like this kinda "J-A-M" thing right here.
That's why I felt confused.
526
00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:17,899
Everyone has a communication style
on the other side.
527
00:30:17,982 --> 00:30:20,360
Some are easy to pin down,
and others are trickier.
528
00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:22,445
So we're gonna keep going.
529
00:30:25,573 --> 00:30:28,785
There's this whole thing that keeps
coming through when he's coming in
530
00:30:28,868 --> 00:30:32,163
about not wanting to traumatize
the people around him
531
00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:33,331
when he passed.
532
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:37,043
Coming through strong.
Give me one sec. Something with this.
533
00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:42,841
It's like, "I don't want…"
534
00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:45,385
You know when people will have
a last memory,
535
00:30:45,468 --> 00:30:47,095
and it's burned into their mind,
536
00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:50,098
where it's all they think about
when they think about them.
537
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:53,059
He's giving me a feeling of,
"No, I was so much more than that."
538
00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:57,981
The bond, the love. It's like,
I don't want all this time that was shared
539
00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:02,652
to be defined by this single,
horrible, mental image,
540
00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:05,530
is the only way that I can describe it
when it comes through. Um…
541
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,533
I have to go a little deeper here,
as painful as this is.
542
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:20,295
Rupturing, rupturing, rupturing.
543
00:31:22,463 --> 00:31:23,840
Um…
544
00:31:23,923 --> 00:31:27,510
I was getting this earlier,
and this is hard to articulate.
545
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,679
But do you know if anything ruptured?
546
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:32,724
Um…
547
00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:34,934
Yeah, so…
548
00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:37,729
it was my birthday.
549
00:31:38,354 --> 00:31:43,151
Um, we went to lay by the pool
at the apartment complex
550
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:46,613
that I just… we just moved into. Um…
551
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:50,450
He was getting some sun,
you know, laying on the beach chair.
552
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,119
He was like, "Sounds like
something's coming to get me."
553
00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:54,412
It was like, "What?"
554
00:31:54,495 --> 00:31:58,374
And we laughed,
and I laid down next to him.
555
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,253
A gust of wind blew by,
556
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:05,965
and the beach umbrella, the spokes,
557
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:08,426
it fell on both of us
558
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:10,970
and pierced him through his head.
559
00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:15,975
And it went through the…
560
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:19,354
the softest part,
from what I've been told.
561
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,481
-Yeah.
-The softest part of your brain.
562
00:32:21,564 --> 00:32:23,816
I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
563
00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:27,862
And he died the next day.
564
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:31,824
I'm so sorry.
That really is a freak accident.
565
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:37,872
-My heart hurts for you. I'm so sorry.
-Yeah.
566
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:44,504
And this pains me
to have to, like, talk about.
567
00:32:44,587 --> 00:32:47,465
I'm sorry that you had to witness
or go through this experience,
568
00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:50,176
'cause there's this aspect here
that feels…
569
00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:51,594
like, my emotions.
570
00:32:51,678 --> 00:32:55,556
And they know this rarely happens.
My emotions are getting in the way here.
571
00:32:57,016 --> 00:32:58,059
Phew!
572
00:33:00,269 --> 00:33:03,606
This is one of those ones
where I wanna talk to you again
573
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,401
because I don't feel like
I've got it all out today.
574
00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:09,529
You and I are gonna talk again.
I'm gonna make it happen.
575
00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:11,739
Can I give you a hug?
576
00:33:12,281 --> 00:33:13,408
Aw.
577
00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:16,452
This was a hard one today.
This was a hard one.
578
00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:18,329
I was not able to, um…
579
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,583
connect to the depth
that I'm normally able to
580
00:33:24,043 --> 00:33:27,714
because my own emotions
were kind of pushing to the surface.
581
00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:32,510
This one, I don't know
if it's because it was the gay aspect,
582
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:36,931
being able to relate to that intimately.
When I read people who've lost children,
583
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:39,308
that's tragic, but I can't relate to that.
584
00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:42,061
With this, I was thinking
about Clint the entire time.
585
00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:47,442
And I just thought, like,
what he had to go through.
586
00:33:49,152 --> 00:33:53,322
And I can't imagine losing someone
that you love so much like that,
587
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,700
and it just really got to me. So,
588
00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:57,076
I just, uh…
589
00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,163
Yeah, that was hard.
590
00:34:11,632 --> 00:34:12,467
Hey!
591
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:13,634
Hey, how's it goin'?
592
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,887
- Good. How are you?
-Good. Are you free?
593
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:17,221
Yeah, just sitting here.
594
00:34:17,305 --> 00:34:21,517
Oh, nice. Hey, I just wanted to call you
and tell you I love you.
595
00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:28,775
I, I just got out of a reading with a man
whose partner died in a freak accident.
596
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:33,154
And I was crying through the whole thing,
and I never cry during readings.
597
00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:37,033
And they were, like,
sitting out by a pool.
598
00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:39,744
His partner said,
"I think something's coming to get me."
599
00:34:39,827 --> 00:34:41,954
And, he was like,
"What? What do you mean?"
600
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:46,542
And then, suddenly a gust of wind came
and blew the umbrella that was over them
601
00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:50,213
down onto him and the pole
the umbrella was attached to
602
00:34:50,296 --> 00:34:53,674
went through the guy's skull
and out the back of his head.
603
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,385
And he watched the whole thing happen.
604
00:34:56,469 --> 00:34:59,764
And this was in 2008,
so they weren't able to get married.
605
00:35:00,348 --> 00:35:02,642
They were… he was in his late 20s,
606
00:35:02,725 --> 00:35:05,728
and I, like, the whole time,
I was just crying thinking about
607
00:35:06,229 --> 00:35:08,564
how you just never know, you know, like,
608
00:35:08,648 --> 00:35:11,317
and, uh, it really, like,
affected me emotionally.
609
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,862
So I know it's a very weird call again,
and I'm sorry, but I love you.
610
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,949
And I had to tell you that,
and I can't wait to see you,
611
00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:21,828
and you're the best, and yeah.
612
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:25,164
All right. Will do.
I love you. I'll talk to you soon.
613
00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:26,958
-Talk later.
-All right. Bye.
614
00:35:50,273 --> 00:35:53,276
-I'm glad I'm with you today.
-I'm glad I'm with you.
615
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:57,071
I'm glad we have a minute to catch
our breath before we start traveling.
616
00:35:57,155 --> 00:36:00,158
I know. It's nice to go
to one of our favorite places.
617
00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:01,075
Yep.
618
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:04,871
Ready to do this?
619
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,789
My calves are ready.
You've seen 'em.
620
00:36:06,873 --> 00:36:08,708
Capricorn is made for the mountains.
621
00:36:08,791 --> 00:36:10,585
-Goat legs.
-Got my goat legs.
622
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:17,133
-Watch out for that rock.
-That'd be dramatic.
623
00:36:17,884 --> 00:36:20,636
-Get on this ridge here.
-Oh, yeah, copy that.
624
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,472
Can you imagine?
My ass just died falling off a mountain.
625
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:24,974
"He never saw that coming."
626
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:30,188
I don't think we could've
picked a better day.
627
00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:32,148
I know.
It's so beautiful, you know?
628
00:36:32,231 --> 00:36:33,274
"Is he gonna propose?"
629
00:36:33,357 --> 00:36:35,860
-"Is that why he brought me here?"
-"Gonna propose?"
630
00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:38,571
-Want a flash mob.
-A flash mob.
631
00:36:38,654 --> 00:36:41,866
We've discussed this.
That'd be the worst way to propose.
632
00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:44,452
It's like, in a restaurant is number one.
633
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:46,370
Flash mob would be close to number two.
634
00:36:46,454 --> 00:36:48,122
-I don't think I'll ask you.
-No.
635
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,249
-I'm just expecting you to ask me.
-Okay.
636
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,626
But no pressure.
637
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:53,878
When would you like that to happen?
638
00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:56,005
-I mean, no pressure.
639
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:02,970
How… when you close your eyes,
you envision the love of your life?
640
00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:04,597
On a horse? I don't know why.
641
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,809
But what do you envision me…
Do I, like, get on the knee?
642
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:10,394
-That whole thing?
-Yeah, no.
643
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:14,398
No? What's it called
when you get married spontaneously?
644
00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:18,736
-You have a shotgun wedding. It's called…
-I know what you're talking about.
645
00:37:18,819 --> 00:37:19,820
Uh…
646
00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:23,491
Spirits, help me out here.
Elope. We're gonna elope.
647
00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:26,577
-Elopement. Yeah.
-That's right.
648
00:37:41,217 --> 00:37:44,679
When I was 27 years old,
my life changed forever.
649
00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:47,682
I lost someone very close to me.
650
00:37:48,557 --> 00:37:51,936
And I want to find out what happened.
651
00:37:52,019 --> 00:37:53,646
I want answers.
652
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:55,606
I want justice
653
00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:59,944
before my mom passes away
without any answers.
654
00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:02,571
I want justice for my family.
655
00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:07,451
I want to know who killed my brother.
656
00:38:08,703 --> 00:38:12,581
Hello! I'm Tyler. It's lovely to meet you.
657
00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:14,834
-It's so good to meet you.
-So good to meet you.
658
00:38:14,917 --> 00:38:17,920
-What a beautiful place too!
-It's beautiful.
659
00:38:18,004 --> 00:38:20,381
I did not mean to start crying right away.
660
00:38:20,464 --> 00:38:24,427
That's okay, darlin'.
It's all good. I'm happy to be here.
661
00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:26,929
I just can't believe
that this is happening.
662
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:29,724
Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.
663
00:38:29,807 --> 00:38:32,977
As we go through this process today,
anybody can come through.
664
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:33,894
Okay.
665
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,397
Hopefully, we'll connect with
who you hope to hear from.
666
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,232
-Hopefully.
-Had a lot coming through.
667
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:40,443
So we'll talk about that as well.
668
00:38:40,526 --> 00:38:41,777
-Really helpful.
-Gosh.
669
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:43,946
-You know I work with objects.
-Yes.
670
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:46,574
-Do you have any objects?
-I do. I do.
671
00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:49,618
-It's kind of big.
-That's okay. Yeah, absolutely.
672
00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:50,828
Not a problem.
673
00:38:55,791 --> 00:38:58,294
-Before we start, what's your first name?
-Tamara.
674
00:38:58,377 --> 00:39:01,297
Okay. That's all I need.
Tamara, Tamara, Tamara.
675
00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:04,133
Just give me something to focus on.
676
00:39:05,634 --> 00:39:07,762
Okay, so I'm just gonna hold that.
677
00:39:15,061 --> 00:39:16,854
I want to start with the guy coming in.
678
00:39:16,937 --> 00:39:20,024
Before I got here, I was picking up
on this male contemporary.
679
00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:21,942
And anytime "contemporary" comes through,
680
00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:24,904
it refers to somebody
who kind of passed away prematurely,
681
00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:26,655
somebody who should've lived longer.
682
00:39:26,739 --> 00:39:30,326
There was a reference, but he was
coming through with this older guy
683
00:39:30,409 --> 00:39:32,578
that I felt I had to highlight as well.
684
00:39:32,661 --> 00:39:34,288
They're coming through together.
685
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:38,209
So this one guy would have passed away
at a more age-appropriate age.
686
00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:40,878
He's coming through
with someone who passed away early.
687
00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:43,047
They're connected to this object.
688
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,383
Um… It's really interesting.
689
00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:48,552
A number of details come through.
I'm gonna relay it as it comes in.
690
00:39:48,636 --> 00:39:53,099
They keep having me put a big emphasis
on everything that you've had to do alone,
691
00:39:53,182 --> 00:39:55,059
like the weight of the world's on you
692
00:39:55,142 --> 00:39:57,144
as far as having to handle things alone,
693
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:59,480
and they wanna let you know,
you're not alone.
694
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:02,691
And they feel invested in your well-being,
695
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:04,610
wanting to make sure you're okay.
696
00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:09,156
I wanna figure out…
usually when people come through together,
697
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,117
they have an association with each other.
698
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,245
So I don't know why,
but we're gonna look into this
699
00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:17,081
and kind of see, and give me one sec.
700
00:40:18,457 --> 00:40:20,960
I have our younger guy
who passed away prematurely,
701
00:40:21,043 --> 00:40:23,295
I have this older guy
coming through with him.
702
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,798
So I don't know if he had a father figure,
703
00:40:25,881 --> 00:40:28,342
what the deal is,
but they're a package deal.
704
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:32,680
When they're coming through,
they have me highlight being together.
705
00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:34,557
-So that seems very important…
706
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,975
…and it's all good.
707
00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:42,148
I'm trying to separate these two,
but they keep coming through together.
708
00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:45,109
It's all good. I'm gonna figure out
who this other guy is.
709
00:40:45,734 --> 00:40:48,529
-Do you know if he lost a father figure--
-Dad.
710
00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:52,241
Oh. Gotcha. Okay, one sibling
711
00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:55,035
and then Dad, and that's kind of my area.
712
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,788
Now were those who you were hoping
to hear from today?
713
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:58,956
-Yes.
-Okay.
714
00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:04,253
They have me bring up
my symbol for "goodbye,"
715
00:41:04,336 --> 00:41:07,631
but then they bring up not being able
to get a goodbye that we deserve.
716
00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:11,135
Do you know of any situations
where we weren't able to say goodbye?
717
00:41:11,218 --> 00:41:13,262
-He wasn't able to talk.
-Gotcha.
718
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:16,390
It's bringing me into my…
719
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:21,312
I'm trying to figure out what happened
to the poor guy. He's showing me that
720
00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:24,148
multiple parts of the body
started failing.
721
00:41:24,231 --> 00:41:30,029
My dad passed away October of 2019.
722
00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,281
What did he pass away of, technically?
723
00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:34,283
-You told me what he passed away from.
-Yeah.
724
00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:36,076
You're spot on. His organs failed.
725
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,747
My dad was, uh…
He hit the bottle pretty hard.
726
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:43,584
Gotcha. He also brought up
that there was a conversation
727
00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:44,877
that was had in his room
728
00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:50,508
um, that seems a little sensitive
to have in front of somebody.
729
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,470
-I don't know what it is. Do you have a--
-That was what happened.
730
00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:59,141
My aunt, we wanted
to start discussing extending his life
731
00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:01,310
or taking him off of life support.
732
00:42:01,393 --> 00:42:05,022
My aunt was the one that said,
"Let's not talk in front of your dad."
733
00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,066
-Exactly.
-"He can still hear us."
734
00:42:07,149 --> 00:42:10,069
And we went out of the room
to have that conversation.
735
00:42:10,152 --> 00:42:11,904
-And he knew this.
-Wow.
736
00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:15,115
And he could hear, and he knew,
and he was okay with this.
737
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:19,745
But that gave him the chance to know,
"Okay, it's time for me to go."
738
00:42:19,828 --> 00:42:23,332
And it gave him a sense of peace.
He wasn't liking being in his body.
739
00:42:23,415 --> 00:42:27,878
I spoke to him about it the night before,
and just was with him.
740
00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:30,756
Although he couldn't move,
he didn't have any reflexes,
741
00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:34,468
you know, a tear kind of,
you know, dropped down his face.
742
00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:39,265
And, I, I always thought,
"Was that you trying to communicate,
743
00:42:39,348 --> 00:42:40,307
'Don't do this'?"
744
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:43,519
"Or, were you trying to communicate
that 'I'm okay with this.'"
745
00:42:43,602 --> 00:42:44,562
Yeah.
746
00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:48,232
And I really appreciate you
telling me that--
747
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:50,943
-It was the right choice. It was.
-It was the right choice.
748
00:42:51,026 --> 00:42:53,445
Yeah. So, like whereas Dad
749
00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:57,992
gives me this feeling of, like, it's never
a good time for someone to pass.
750
00:42:58,075 --> 00:43:00,327
-But there is acceptance there.
-Sure.
751
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,789
With brother, this feels kinda like,
"Bam. This just got put on us."
752
00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:05,791
-Yes
-Is the way that I'd describe it.
753
00:43:05,874 --> 00:43:08,002
So there is that aspect. Um…
754
00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:13,674
He is having me talk about…
He's letting me in a little bit.
755
00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:14,842
Very strong guy.
756
00:43:14,925 --> 00:43:19,597
When he comes across, um,
he just feels very, very protective.
757
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,224
-Like, "I gotta protect myself."
-Yes. Yes.
758
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:24,685
That said, I think he has a little bit
759
00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:27,354
of regret of some of the situations
he put himself in.
760
00:43:27,938 --> 00:43:31,775
And when he comes through,
he's acknowledging this feeling, like, uh,
761
00:43:31,859 --> 00:43:34,903
"That was kind of dumb,
who I was hanging around with."
762
00:43:34,987 --> 00:43:38,240
It's this thing. He's bringing up
the people around him.
763
00:43:38,324 --> 00:43:40,993
And I think he knew better,
and it's a frustrating thing,
764
00:43:41,076 --> 00:43:44,663
'cause I feel like on some level,
I know in my soul,
765
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:47,207
like, this is not a good situation,
766
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:50,919
but I don't know how I can get out of it,
and it's kind of an interesting thing.
767
00:43:54,214 --> 00:43:55,758
Oh man.
768
00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:57,968
He wasn't supposed to be there.
769
00:43:58,052 --> 00:43:59,511
It's a weird thing to say,
770
00:43:59,595 --> 00:44:02,181
but there's an aspect here of,
"Wasn't supposed to be there."
771
00:44:02,264 --> 00:44:04,683
"Wasn't supposed to be there."
"Wasn't supposed to be there."
772
00:44:05,934 --> 00:44:08,270
I don't know
why that's coming through so strongly.
773
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:10,230
-He wanted to protect us.
-Yeah.
774
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:13,692
He did not want us to know
anything that was going on.
775
00:44:13,776 --> 00:44:14,860
I believe it.
776
00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:17,988
When people said, "What happened?"
I honestly didn't know.
777
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:20,115
I didn't know what to tell them.
I didn't know
778
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:24,036
certain set groups of people
that he was hanging out with.
779
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,705
Exactly. And that's
what's coming through with this.
780
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:30,042
If he could do it over again,
he would've been a lot more open,
781
00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:31,293
a lot more transparent.
782
00:44:36,131 --> 00:44:38,550
Fuck. Sorry.
783
00:44:42,262 --> 00:44:45,683
I just have to get it exactly
as I receive it.
784
00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:49,311
There's a reference,
when he's talking about his passing,
785
00:44:49,395 --> 00:44:51,063
of this time that elapsed
786
00:44:51,146 --> 00:44:54,942
between whatever happened,
and when he actually died.
787
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:58,696
So I have to make this clear.
He's not showing an instantaneous passing.
788
00:44:58,779 --> 00:45:02,366
This seems like whatever happened,
happened pretty suddenly,
789
00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:04,785
but I'm not saying instantaneous.
790
00:45:04,868 --> 00:45:08,247
There's an aspect here
that comes through of, like,
791
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:11,041
oh God, I hate to say this, but timing.
792
00:45:11,125 --> 00:45:14,169
When something happens
to someone, time is of the essence.
793
00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:16,296
We wanna call the police,
we wanna call 9-1-1,
794
00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:18,382
we wanna make sure
they can get medical care.
795
00:45:18,465 --> 00:45:20,384
There's something
about this being delayed,
796
00:45:20,467 --> 00:45:22,052
and I don't know why.
797
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:26,473
But there's something about this of,
like, a delay in finding out.
798
00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:29,560
A delay in getting medical attention.
799
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:33,313
Like, somebody could have
acted faster and didn't,
800
00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:37,234
and I'm certain of this.
So I know it may not click,
801
00:45:37,317 --> 00:45:41,071
but I just keep getting this of, like,
time was of the essence.
802
00:45:41,155 --> 00:45:42,406
Does that make sense?
803
00:45:43,657 --> 00:45:44,783
Aw. It's okay.
804
00:45:48,454 --> 00:45:52,124
I could have done something.
I could have done something.
805
00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:57,546
My brother went missing August 19th, 1999.
806
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:01,216
My brother was killed
by being shot in the head.
807
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,636
He was missing.
808
00:46:10,225 --> 00:46:13,645
-I should've reacted quicker.
-That's normal. That's normal reaction.
809
00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:19,902
At the time, that my brother, um…
that we knew that he was missing.
810
00:46:19,985 --> 00:46:22,613
You know, my mom, like,
"I haven't heard from him."
811
00:46:22,696 --> 00:46:24,907
And, in my mind, I'm like,
"Yeah, he's okay."
812
00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:28,118
You know, "Nothing's gonna happen to him.
He's fine."
813
00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,162
Well, then the…
814
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:33,499
missing posters started going up.
815
00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:37,211
I'm still in Georgia at the time
because I don't want to believe this.
816
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:39,546
I don't want to deal with this.
817
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,257
So I have a tremendous
amount of guilt, um…
818
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:47,262
around the fact that
I should have hopped on the next plane
819
00:46:47,346 --> 00:46:48,889
and been to Milwaukee.
820
00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:51,683
A, to be with my mom to comfort her.
821
00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:54,561
B, to at least help, you know.
822
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:58,023
I kind of knew what happened
leading up to it a little bit,
823
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:02,611
from talking to different people,
and I maybe could have done something.
824
00:47:03,111 --> 00:47:03,987
Yeah.
825
00:47:04,613 --> 00:47:10,285
I regret not being part of a search group
826
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:13,705
that I should have been
the person in the front.
827
00:47:14,706 --> 00:47:15,541
Okay.
828
00:47:17,543 --> 00:47:20,337
One thing that comes through
is he's bringing up
829
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:23,257
where he passed versus where he was found.
830
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,926
It happening,
and then being moved in some capacity.
831
00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:27,177
Are you aware of this?
832
00:47:27,261 --> 00:47:29,096
It's just spot on.
833
00:47:29,179 --> 00:47:34,184
-Yeah.
-He was… killed and dumped.
834
00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:35,185
Yeah.
835
00:47:35,269 --> 00:47:36,728
In two separate places.
836
00:47:36,812 --> 00:47:39,273
Two separate places. And he knew
837
00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:42,860
that there was
no way out of the situation.
838
00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:45,237
Yeah?
839
00:47:47,072 --> 00:47:48,657
Did something come to mind?
840
00:47:51,451 --> 00:47:53,120
It almost seems like he…
841
00:47:55,497 --> 00:47:57,416
knew that he was gonna die that day.
842
00:47:57,499 --> 00:47:58,333
Mm-hmm.