1 00:00:13,139 --> 00:00:18,019 Somebody was in a really rough situation emotionally before they passed 2 00:00:18,102 --> 00:00:20,188 within how the family was changing. 3 00:00:20,271 --> 00:00:24,442 -I have to kind of explain this 'cause… -Oh, I got chills. 4 00:00:24,525 --> 00:00:26,986 If someone is in the middle of, like, a breakup, 5 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:29,238 -or a custody battle… -Ooh. 6 00:00:29,322 --> 00:00:32,325 …and then this person dies. This is what they're giving me. 7 00:00:32,408 --> 00:00:33,868 Who would that be for? 8 00:00:37,413 --> 00:00:38,456 It's okay. 9 00:00:38,956 --> 00:00:41,542 -[sniffles] That would be my dad. -[Tyler] Your dad. 10 00:00:41,626 --> 00:00:44,420 [theme music playing] 11 00:01:07,276 --> 00:01:09,445 Um, how old was he when he passed? 12 00:01:11,656 --> 00:01:13,991 -He was in his thirties. -Yeah, 34. 13 00:01:14,075 --> 00:01:18,788 Yeah. So I feel like he's important today to talk about. 14 00:01:19,288 --> 00:01:20,915 It's gonna be a big one. 15 00:01:27,922 --> 00:01:31,259 [man] He had a girlfriend at the time and was getting ready to leave her. 16 00:01:31,801 --> 00:01:33,386 He was here one day and gone the next. 17 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:36,097 One thing our dad never did was pick us up from school. 18 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:39,016 -Yeah. -The day before he passed away, he did. 19 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,687 He told us that he was going away for a while, but he was coming back. 20 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:44,438 Then the next day, he was killed. 21 00:01:44,522 --> 00:01:45,356 Yeah. 22 00:01:47,358 --> 00:01:49,318 [man] When I lost my dad, I was young, 23 00:01:49,402 --> 00:01:52,738 and so I felt like I lost that male figure that I needed. 24 00:01:52,822 --> 00:01:54,782 I still don't know how to shave. 25 00:01:54,866 --> 00:01:58,870 And small things like that, shaving and having to learn how to drive. 26 00:01:58,953 --> 00:02:00,955 I taught myself how to drive. 27 00:02:01,038 --> 00:02:03,457 Having my dad around would have been different 28 00:02:03,541 --> 00:02:06,252 because I would've had that father figure I'd longed for. 29 00:02:07,044 --> 00:02:09,046 [Tyler] All right, I'm gonna keep going. 30 00:02:09,881 --> 00:02:11,507 Dad. Dad. Dad. 31 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:15,553 With Dad, are there any questions that you guys have about him, 32 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:16,804 about how he passed? 33 00:02:16,888 --> 00:02:19,557 Anything unresolved that I might be able to help with? 34 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,435 One of my biggest questions that I wanted to ask him. 35 00:02:22,518 --> 00:02:24,687 It's probably been like, four years now. 36 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,440 -Um, I came out to my mom. -Nice. 37 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:29,025 -Um, and my family. -Yeah. 38 00:02:29,108 --> 00:02:33,571 And I've always questioned because obviously it's been something 39 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:36,199 -I've dealt with my whole entire life. -Yeah. 40 00:02:36,282 --> 00:02:40,036 There was a comment that I felt like he made when I was six years old. 41 00:02:40,119 --> 00:02:44,290 My dad, uh, whether it was caught me doing something, 42 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:45,833 or I said something. 43 00:02:45,917 --> 00:02:47,919 But I remember him saying specifically 44 00:02:48,002 --> 00:02:51,380 that he knows that I'm gonna grow up and live a different life. 45 00:02:51,464 --> 00:02:54,217 -But he better not see me doing it again. -Yeah. Yeah. 46 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,427 And I want to know how he felt about… 47 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,637 -[Tyler] Sure. -…that now. 48 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,679 Sure, sure. 49 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:03,809 Being a Black gay man raised in a small town in Alabama, 50 00:03:03,893 --> 00:03:05,144 that still carries shame. 51 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:07,939 I felt like I wasn't as confident of a person, 52 00:03:08,022 --> 00:03:11,567 as far as sharing my authentic self, and who I was. 53 00:03:11,651 --> 00:03:14,987 So when I was 23 years old, I came out to my family, 54 00:03:15,071 --> 00:03:17,490 and I always wondered what he thought about it. 55 00:03:17,573 --> 00:03:18,950 If he was okay with it. 56 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:21,786 It's not something he's super comfortable with. 57 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:25,039 Not knowing, you always have that part in the back of your head, 58 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:26,207 like, "What if?" 59 00:03:26,290 --> 00:03:27,583 [Tyler] Um, okay. 60 00:03:28,084 --> 00:03:29,669 [pen scribbles] 61 00:03:31,045 --> 00:03:33,881 [Tyler] Give me one sec. Looks like he's switching gears. 62 00:03:33,965 --> 00:03:35,758 Okay. Gotcha. 63 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,679 He's having me now go into his passing, which feels a little tough. 64 00:03:39,762 --> 00:03:44,141 The interesting thing is, um, for him, it feels like it was a blink of an eye. 65 00:03:44,225 --> 00:03:47,186 Um, and it's really interesting. Blink of an eye. 66 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:49,313 I don't know why, but he keeps bringing it up. 67 00:03:49,397 --> 00:03:50,690 "I'm here, and I'm gone." 68 00:03:50,773 --> 00:03:53,234 Typically, sometimes people get diagnosed with cancer, 69 00:03:53,317 --> 00:03:55,027 they have a long thing. Not that. 70 00:03:55,111 --> 00:03:56,654 This feels very fast. 71 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:59,657 The way it's hitting me, where it's like a blink of an eye. 72 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:03,202 One day, I'm here. One day, I'm gone. So the way this came through 73 00:04:03,286 --> 00:04:07,290 was I felt almost, like, whiplash is the only way to describe it. 74 00:04:07,373 --> 00:04:10,793 I felt like there's some external force that comes in on my body, 75 00:04:11,377 --> 00:04:13,254 and then it stops at my body. 76 00:04:13,337 --> 00:04:17,508 But it sends a whole, like, reverberation through my body. 77 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:20,136 It's such a weird thing to describe, and I hope I'm not… 78 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:21,429 [grunts] 79 00:04:21,512 --> 00:04:23,222 -I think I get it. -[Tyler] It's… 80 00:04:23,306 --> 00:04:27,810 I mean, uh, how my dad passed away was in a car accident. 81 00:04:27,893 --> 00:04:30,563 -Gotcha. -And he always wore his seat belt. 82 00:04:30,646 --> 00:04:32,273 This part behind him. 83 00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:34,108 -Yes. -[man] And, um… 84 00:04:34,191 --> 00:04:38,195 It was a head-on collision, and so his chest went into the dashboard. 85 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,782 -Yeah. I'm sorry. -And crushed his lungs. 86 00:04:41,866 --> 00:04:43,743 And that's how he lost his life. 87 00:04:43,826 --> 00:04:46,162 -Because of how he wore his seat belt. -[Tyler] Makes sense. 88 00:04:46,245 --> 00:04:47,913 In the crash, crushing his chest. 89 00:04:47,997 --> 00:04:50,958 Oh, I'm so sorry, guys. you guys have to go through that. 90 00:04:51,042 --> 00:04:52,460 A very sudden though, 91 00:04:52,543 --> 00:04:56,130 and I wanna let you know. He doesn't acknowledge pain, suffering. 92 00:05:00,009 --> 00:05:03,929 The thing that comes through with this, he's showing me a lot. I'll keep going. 93 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:07,808 There's this weird thing about you not being able to grieve right away. 94 00:05:07,892 --> 00:05:09,643 -No. -[Tyler] It's almost like you couldn't. 95 00:05:09,727 --> 00:05:11,937 You had to be strong for everybody else. 96 00:05:12,021 --> 00:05:14,023 -That seems like a big thing. -That's it. 97 00:05:14,106 --> 00:05:17,109 -He's honoring that, which is important. -[woman] That's sweet. 98 00:05:17,193 --> 00:05:19,945 [Tyler] Yeah. I'm gonna keep going 'cause he has a lot to say. 99 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,912 It's interesting 'cause you're not the only family member that is gay. 100 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:29,872 -Good to keep in mind. -You're right. 101 00:05:29,955 --> 00:05:33,834 He's having me highlight this. He's acknowledging more than one. 102 00:05:34,877 --> 00:05:37,505 Um, gives me the feeling of thumbs up with that. 103 00:05:37,588 --> 00:05:40,424 But yeah. Very positive 'cause you're not alone there. 104 00:05:40,508 --> 00:05:41,801 [chuckling] 105 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:45,388 But he wants to commend you on how you handled things also. 106 00:05:45,471 --> 00:05:48,307 Proud of you for how you've been able to navigate afterwards. 107 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,976 He kept acknowledging this feeling of like, 108 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:52,812 it was an honor to have you as a son. 109 00:05:52,895 --> 00:05:55,356 You need to know that, that it was an honor to him 110 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:57,566 in a really beautiful way. So… 111 00:05:58,067 --> 00:06:01,487 After this reading, now that my father came through, 112 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:03,739 and he told me he was proud of me, 113 00:06:03,823 --> 00:06:06,659 I feel like I could be authentic myself. 114 00:06:06,742 --> 00:06:09,245 You know, Black gay rainbows everywhere. 115 00:06:09,328 --> 00:06:11,288 Without any care in the world. [laughs] 116 00:06:11,372 --> 00:06:13,624 -All right. Bye. Thank you. -Bye. 117 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,502 [upbeat music playing] 118 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:19,463 I'm very happy that I came. I would do it again. 119 00:06:19,964 --> 00:06:23,551 I wish I could have a mini Tyler in my pocket and pull him out any time. 120 00:06:23,634 --> 00:06:24,760 [laughing] 121 00:06:24,844 --> 00:06:25,845 [woman] Right. 122 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:31,392 -[Heather] How did it go? -It was great. It was really healing. And… 123 00:06:31,475 --> 00:06:33,477 -[Heather] Yeah. -The men are so cute around here! 124 00:06:33,561 --> 00:06:36,564 And, uh… [laughs] It was just nuts. 125 00:06:36,647 --> 00:06:37,606 It was nuts. 126 00:06:37,690 --> 00:06:38,649 That's awesome. 127 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:42,111 Yeah. It's stuff like that that's, like, so healing. 128 00:06:42,194 --> 00:06:44,196 -Yeah. -For people to hear. 129 00:06:48,659 --> 00:06:50,870 [vibrant music playing] 130 00:07:11,015 --> 00:07:13,100 -I visioned some ducks this morning. -[Theresa] Really? 131 00:07:13,184 --> 00:07:14,518 Yeah, it was like, "Okay." 132 00:07:14,602 --> 00:07:16,604 -[Theresa] How funny. -Little duckies. 133 00:07:16,687 --> 00:07:17,980 So how are you feeling? 134 00:07:18,481 --> 00:07:21,400 I'm hanging in there. I had a rough night. I had a panic attack. 135 00:07:21,484 --> 00:07:23,986 It was more intuitive feelings. 136 00:07:24,069 --> 00:07:27,156 -Like someone's life was robbed from them. -[Theresa] Tell me. 137 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:30,868 That's a very unique feeling, with something being robbed. 138 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:33,162 How long did the panic attack last? 139 00:07:33,245 --> 00:07:35,873 About three hours. It came through very strongly. 140 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:36,916 [Theresa] Wow. 141 00:07:38,918 --> 00:07:42,171 [Tyler] When I have a panic attack, it feels like I can't breathe. 142 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:45,341 I feel anxious. Like the world's collapsing around me. 143 00:07:45,424 --> 00:07:48,385 It usually indicates to me that there's a serious loss 144 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:50,137 I'm about to kind of delve into. 145 00:07:50,221 --> 00:07:53,933 -Okay, I'm gonna scribble. -Okay. There you go. And I'll be quiet. 146 00:07:54,016 --> 00:07:56,685 Well, that'll be rare. 147 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:59,146 -Rare? Did you say that? -Rare. Yep. 148 00:07:59,230 --> 00:08:00,105 Smarty. 149 00:08:01,941 --> 00:08:02,983 I'm just kidding. 150 00:08:03,067 --> 00:08:05,319 [Theresa] You just scribble, and I won't talk. 151 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:12,243 Look at this tiny little house. 152 00:08:12,326 --> 00:08:14,036 -I can't look at anything. -Sorry. 153 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:15,829 -I'm concentrating. -Okay. 154 00:08:15,913 --> 00:08:18,249 -I'm not gonna talk anymore, so… Sorry. -Okay. 155 00:08:21,585 --> 00:08:26,173 Oh, this goes straight. But we… Oh, they have to stop too. Okay. 156 00:08:26,257 --> 00:08:27,841 [inspirational music playing] 157 00:08:42,898 --> 00:08:44,275 [Tyler] What's going on today? 158 00:08:44,775 --> 00:08:47,111 This reading is for someone really close to me. 159 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:49,029 -Great. Fabulous. -Who is a big fan. 160 00:08:49,113 --> 00:08:53,033 And so, have to let you know, the person who we're doing a reading for 161 00:08:53,117 --> 00:08:55,411 is, um… has no idea that you're here. 162 00:08:55,494 --> 00:08:57,621 -Wow. Oh my goodness. -So it's a surprise. 163 00:08:57,705 --> 00:09:00,708 -Quite a surprise. Exciting. -It's quite a surprise. Big fan. 164 00:09:00,791 --> 00:09:03,502 -It'll be really good. -Oh, hello. 165 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:06,630 [both men laughing] 166 00:09:07,214 --> 00:09:08,966 -Aw. -Oh. [laughs] 167 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:10,009 [Tyler] Precious! 168 00:09:10,092 --> 00:09:10,968 [man] Surprise. 169 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:12,761 -Can I give you a hug? -Is it okay? 170 00:09:12,845 --> 00:09:14,263 [woman] Yes, of course. 171 00:09:14,346 --> 00:09:15,681 Ooh! 172 00:09:17,391 --> 00:09:18,642 I'm Tyler. 173 00:09:18,726 --> 00:09:19,560 I know. 174 00:09:19,643 --> 00:09:20,936 [laughing] 175 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:22,813 You're the only reason I'm okay. 176 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:25,983 Oh, sweetheart. Oh my goodness. 177 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:29,903 When Justine and I met, we were at a conference. 178 00:09:29,987 --> 00:09:31,071 A music conference. 179 00:09:31,155 --> 00:09:34,116 And I saw her, and I was like, "Oh my gosh!" 180 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:36,327 I felt a feeling I'd never felt before. 181 00:09:36,410 --> 00:09:39,330 Like, I felt like I had known this person forever. 182 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:41,665 I knew the moment we met 183 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:44,043 that we're going to be connected for the rest of our lives. 184 00:09:44,126 --> 00:09:47,796 We talked about, you know, future, and I looked at rings, but I was like, 185 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,674 "Okay, that's…" kinda doing some fishing a little bit. 186 00:09:50,758 --> 00:09:54,011 Then I think after everything happened, I just kind of, 187 00:09:54,094 --> 00:09:56,847 said, "Yeah, I can't go there right now." 188 00:09:56,930 --> 00:10:01,060 And, and, uh, just kind of put it aside. 189 00:10:01,143 --> 00:10:03,020 I had no clue where I was even going. 190 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:06,357 I saw him, I was like, "I'm gonna read him." But it's for you. 191 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,816 -I'm sorry. -It's okay. 192 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:11,111 -This is a big surprise. -[Tyler] I feel you. It's all good. 193 00:10:11,195 --> 00:10:13,530 We'll get comfortable, and we'll figure it out. 194 00:10:13,614 --> 00:10:17,576 Here. These are couple of things for you. [laughs] To give to… for the reading. 195 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,119 [Tyler] I'm excited to do this today. 196 00:10:19,203 --> 00:10:21,830 -Thank you so much for everything. -Of course. Yes. 197 00:10:23,374 --> 00:10:24,792 -Thank you. -Absolutely. 198 00:10:24,875 --> 00:10:26,835 -See you later. Bye. -[Tyler] See you in a bit. 199 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:27,961 Lovely to meet you. 200 00:10:28,045 --> 00:10:30,714 Today we'll kind of go through this. I'll scribble. 201 00:10:30,798 --> 00:10:32,591 -I see you have some objects. -Yes. 202 00:10:32,675 --> 00:10:34,176 Those will come in handy. 203 00:10:34,259 --> 00:10:35,552 I'll hold on to them. 204 00:10:35,636 --> 00:10:37,262 Then I'll see what I receive. 205 00:10:37,346 --> 00:10:39,223 We'll go from there. All right? 206 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,433 -Well, at this point you can-- -[Justine] Okay. 207 00:10:41,517 --> 00:10:42,685 Take those out. 208 00:10:42,768 --> 00:10:45,104 Lets me kind of get a sense. Thank you. 209 00:10:45,187 --> 00:10:46,313 [smacks lips] Aw. 210 00:10:47,189 --> 00:10:48,273 Okay. 211 00:10:53,362 --> 00:10:54,988 Who is this? 212 00:10:56,907 --> 00:11:00,536 Last night, I was getting the sense of a younger presence who had passed. 213 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:05,207 Prematurely. The younger male that I feel I would need to highlight. 214 00:11:05,290 --> 00:11:07,084 -Does that make sense? -Yes. 215 00:11:07,167 --> 00:11:08,085 [Tyler] Okay. 216 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:12,214 When this passing happened to him, there was a lot to look forward to. 217 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:14,174 There were exciting things coming up, 218 00:11:14,258 --> 00:11:16,552 maybe even in the coming weeks or months. 219 00:11:16,635 --> 00:11:18,011 But he wants you to know 220 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:21,056 that he feels like he passed at a high point in his life. 221 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:23,434 In the way this kind of comes across… 222 00:11:23,934 --> 00:11:25,310 [sighs deeply] 223 00:11:26,979 --> 00:11:30,065 This person feels full of life, full of life, full of life. 224 00:11:30,149 --> 00:11:32,568 Like, I keep getting this feeling of, 225 00:11:32,651 --> 00:11:35,904 my smile's lighting up as I'm smiling and thinking about him. 226 00:11:35,988 --> 00:11:38,991 He's showing me… [laughs] Weird! Uh… 227 00:11:39,575 --> 00:11:40,534 [chuckles] 228 00:11:42,286 --> 00:11:45,164 He's being silly. Let's see. He's trying to make me laugh. 229 00:11:45,247 --> 00:11:46,081 Funny! 230 00:11:46,165 --> 00:11:48,333 [Tyler] Let me see try to see what this is. 231 00:11:48,417 --> 00:11:49,501 He just does this… 232 00:11:49,585 --> 00:11:51,086 [pen scribbles] 233 00:11:51,170 --> 00:11:52,212 How funny! 234 00:11:53,213 --> 00:11:55,591 I don't know if he had a little dance he would do. 235 00:11:55,674 --> 00:11:56,550 -Or like a-- -Yes. 236 00:11:56,633 --> 00:12:00,262 The only way I can describe it is like a… 237 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:03,140 It's very hard to convey, but he's having me 238 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:04,057 do a jig. 239 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:07,269 I think. I'm a horrible dancer, so I can't do this. 240 00:12:07,352 --> 00:12:09,730 But he's funny when he's coming across. 241 00:12:09,813 --> 00:12:12,816 -And do you know about that? -Yes. Yes, yes. 242 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:14,693 [Tyler] He's cracking me up. 243 00:12:14,777 --> 00:12:16,403 Okay, sync that. 244 00:12:16,487 --> 00:12:17,738 Aw! 245 00:12:18,322 --> 00:12:21,283 I'm seeing doves, like, releasing doves, which is strange. 246 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:22,659 -We did it here. -[Tyler] No way. 247 00:12:22,743 --> 00:12:26,079 Okay, 'cause I'm seeing all these doves flying away. 248 00:12:26,163 --> 00:12:28,624 A lot of excitement in the way this comes through. 249 00:12:28,707 --> 00:12:29,583 Yep. 250 00:12:30,626 --> 00:12:33,212 [Tyler] Okay. He's showing me… [chuckles] 251 00:12:33,295 --> 00:12:36,215 Yeah, like "Number One Mom." It's just sweet. 252 00:12:36,298 --> 00:12:39,051 You know, things kids make in second grade, first grade? 253 00:12:39,134 --> 00:12:42,137 He's showing me this "Number One Mom." It's really funny. 254 00:12:42,221 --> 00:12:45,682 -[cries] That's so sweet. -[Tyler] So, this was your son? 255 00:12:47,309 --> 00:12:49,311 What was his name? How old was he and-- 256 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:53,232 I'd love to tell you. His name is Damani Elijah Chadly. 257 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:55,359 And he was 17. 258 00:12:58,070 --> 00:12:59,071 He's my only son. 259 00:13:02,199 --> 00:13:06,537 I was a pretty young mom by today's standards. 260 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:09,540 I was only a sophomore in college. 261 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:14,878 He's putting everything on you and saying you had to do everything. 262 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:16,296 [both laugh] 263 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:19,049 You know, uh, which is kinda interesting. 264 00:13:19,716 --> 00:13:22,094 -Were you not with his dad? -Single mom. 265 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:23,428 [Tyler] Gotcha. Okay. 266 00:13:24,888 --> 00:13:27,766 I mean, me and this little boy, we just did everything. 267 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:32,437 [voice breaks] We went everywhere with such passion and joy. 268 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:34,940 Singing, dancing, laughing. 269 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:36,483 Always laughing. 270 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,903 It was short, but we lived a lot of life together. 271 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:44,992 [Tyler] He's referencing three people. 272 00:13:45,576 --> 00:13:49,454 I'm trying to figure this out. It's in relation to before he passed. 273 00:13:49,955 --> 00:13:52,541 He was one of the three, or there were three. 274 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:54,418 -Do you-- -Can I answer? 275 00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:56,253 -[Tyler] Please do. -He's one of the three. 276 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:58,672 Okay, gotcha. In the way this comes through, 277 00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:02,551 there's an acknowledgment of a decision that somebody made last minute. 278 00:14:02,634 --> 00:14:06,430 This was a decision that they're holding guilt around, for some reason. 279 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:12,978 It was his decision to leave that evening. 280 00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:15,522 He shouldn't have. It was a school night. 281 00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:18,984 -[Tyler] I'm so sorry. -So, he knows he shouldn't have. 282 00:14:19,484 --> 00:14:23,113 Yeah, just feels tragic and… 283 00:14:26,867 --> 00:14:28,410 It's the weirdest thing. 284 00:14:35,459 --> 00:14:39,004 Click., click. I keep hearing this "click, click" thing. 285 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:40,505 It keeps coming through. 286 00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:43,842 Click, click. Click, click. 287 00:14:44,468 --> 00:14:47,387 Click. I'm trying to figure out what this "click" thing is, 288 00:14:47,471 --> 00:14:51,642 'cause there's emphasis on, like, a seatbelt and trying to get out of a car, 289 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:55,270 but then I'm trying to figure out what this is, 290 00:14:55,354 --> 00:14:56,396 where it's like, 291 00:14:57,064 --> 00:14:59,232 I feel like I had my seat belt on, 292 00:14:59,316 --> 00:15:03,195 but then I feel like I go to unclick it, and then something kinda happens. 293 00:15:03,278 --> 00:15:04,655 It's the weirdest thing. 294 00:15:05,155 --> 00:15:07,741 I don't mean to have to get into the details. 295 00:15:07,824 --> 00:15:12,412 But was he in the actual car of the vehicle when he was… 296 00:15:12,496 --> 00:15:14,539 -He was in the passenger seat. -…killed? Okay. 297 00:15:14,623 --> 00:15:16,625 Maybe he's saying he wanted to get away. 298 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:18,961 It feels like, I'm trying to, like, 299 00:15:19,461 --> 00:15:20,879 unclick this. 300 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:23,882 Then I feel like something happens. So it… [sighs] 301 00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:27,678 There's this acknowledgment of that, for blindsided by this. 302 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,680 With that, he shows me no pain. 303 00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:32,975 I don't feel any pain when this comes across. 304 00:15:33,058 --> 00:15:34,518 If it's not too painful, 305 00:15:34,601 --> 00:15:37,729 do you have an idea of what led up to the passing? 306 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:42,192 -It's so hard to talk about that part. -Yeah. 307 00:15:42,859 --> 00:15:47,030 What happened to my son is that he was a senior in high school, 308 00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:50,826 musician, doing his best. 309 00:15:50,909 --> 00:15:53,286 [sniffles] My son was 310 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:55,372 with a friend. 311 00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:59,793 And was doing what teenagers do 312 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:02,462 and went out one night when he wasn't supposed to. 313 00:16:05,424 --> 00:16:06,925 And he didn't come home. 314 00:16:11,054 --> 00:16:12,139 He was murdered. 315 00:16:14,224 --> 00:16:15,475 In a car. 316 00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:18,311 And he was supposed to be coming home. 317 00:16:21,273 --> 00:16:25,277 The police think that these two boys went to meet someone else, 318 00:16:26,111 --> 00:16:30,115 and that there was some interaction between them 319 00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:33,869 that led this person to 320 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:37,330 shoot my son and his friend. 321 00:16:45,756 --> 00:16:48,550 I just wish I could hug him. He had the best hugs. 322 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:49,468 [Tyler] Yeah. 323 00:16:49,551 --> 00:16:52,846 [cries] All you wanna do is keep your kids safe. 324 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:57,017 There's nothing worse than not being able to do that. 325 00:16:57,768 --> 00:16:59,352 Yeah, understandable. 326 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:01,563 [Justine sniffles] 327 00:17:01,646 --> 00:17:04,316 Yeah. Thank you for being so open. 328 00:17:06,026 --> 00:17:07,069 I can't imagine. 329 00:17:08,779 --> 00:17:09,863 [inhales sharply] 330 00:17:11,907 --> 00:17:15,494 He just keeps trying to hug you. [laughs] It's sweet. I love that. 331 00:17:15,577 --> 00:17:16,411 Aw. 332 00:17:16,912 --> 00:17:19,790 -You can see him try to hug me? -He's showing me a visual. 333 00:17:19,873 --> 00:17:21,917 It's just so interesting from behind. 334 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,086 I feel like he wanted to hug you from behind. 335 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:25,378 It's so sweet. 336 00:17:25,462 --> 00:17:26,797 So, so sweet. 337 00:17:28,131 --> 00:17:30,008 -I love you. I love you. -[Tyler] Aw. 338 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:33,261 I'm glad it happened today. It makes my heart happy. 339 00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:34,596 Me too. [laughs] 340 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:39,476 It was funny. I often will get impressions long before I even show up. 341 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:40,685 I woke up. 342 00:17:40,769 --> 00:17:42,229 I had a vision of ducks. 343 00:17:42,979 --> 00:17:45,398 -Does that make any sense? -Oh yes. 344 00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:48,401 It's the funniest thing. I woke up, I was like, "Duckies!" 345 00:17:48,485 --> 00:17:49,778 [laughing] 346 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:54,074 [Justine] That's incredible. Um… 347 00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:57,619 So when he was just about, just over one, 348 00:17:57,702 --> 00:17:59,955 we lived right down here, right by the water, 349 00:18:00,038 --> 00:18:04,751 and two ducks were in our condo complex, swimming around all the time. 350 00:18:04,835 --> 00:18:07,879 We'd always point them out, which is why the bench is here. 351 00:18:07,963 --> 00:18:09,297 This is dedicated to him? 352 00:18:09,381 --> 00:18:11,633 -[Justine] Oh, you didn't even know that. -No. 353 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:14,803 -I wasn't sure. I love that. -[Justine] It's dedicated to him. 354 00:18:14,886 --> 00:18:17,139 [Tyler] This is also kinda left field. 355 00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:20,183 There's gonna be a situation where there's a tree. 356 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,686 I'm like seeing that he's like, "Plant the tree." 357 00:18:22,769 --> 00:18:23,687 [laughing] 358 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,314 -"Plant the darn tree. Gotta do the tree." -Okay. 359 00:18:26,398 --> 00:18:28,525 He's like, "You gotta do the full thing." 360 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:30,569 So, this is something you've discussed? 361 00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:32,863 They plant trees here in people's honor too. 362 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:36,449 And I thought, "We can't have two. That's selfish." Oh! 363 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:38,994 -You gotta plant the tree. -Oh my God. 364 00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:41,663 All the little things that act as reminders, right? 365 00:18:41,746 --> 00:18:43,874 And that's important. So, um… 366 00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:46,710 -You are just incredible. -[Tyler] Oh. It's a privilege. 367 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,461 I'm glad he came through for you. 368 00:18:48,545 --> 00:18:52,132 Yes. In all honesty, I was feeling him this morning and last night. 369 00:18:52,215 --> 00:18:58,180 It was just, like, overwhelmed with how… horrible it was that it happened, 370 00:18:58,263 --> 00:19:01,016 but simultaneously, I could feel that strength from you. 371 00:19:01,099 --> 00:19:03,268 -And I really-- -Means so much. 372 00:19:03,768 --> 00:19:05,979 I hope that you leave this experience today 373 00:19:06,062 --> 00:19:08,523 reminded that he never is gonna leave your side. 374 00:19:08,607 --> 00:19:10,817 -Okay. -So thank you for this. 375 00:19:10,901 --> 00:19:13,111 -Thank you. -I'm gonna give you a big hug. 376 00:19:13,778 --> 00:19:16,156 [Justine] I'm so overwhelmed with emotion. 377 00:19:16,239 --> 00:19:20,160 You don't think you're ever going to have a conversation with your child again. 378 00:19:20,243 --> 00:19:22,287 Communicating with Tyler felt like 379 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:25,165 I was having a conversation with my boy. 380 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:29,544 Felt like he was right there, and I don't know how else to explain it. 381 00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:31,630 You just feel lighter. 382 00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:34,007 You feel like smiling a little more. 383 00:19:35,926 --> 00:19:38,970 Connecting with my son through Tyler 384 00:19:39,054 --> 00:19:40,222 lifts everything. 385 00:19:41,932 --> 00:19:44,309 Thank you so much. I can't believe you did this. 386 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:45,685 I love you. 387 00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:47,687 [Justine] Thank you so much! 388 00:19:49,397 --> 00:19:51,399 My heart is, like, skipping. 389 00:19:51,483 --> 00:19:53,818 I know. Mine has been all day like that. 390 00:19:53,902 --> 00:19:56,905 He was dancing for Tyler the way he dances. 391 00:19:56,988 --> 00:20:00,242 -The little shuffle he does? -Tyler was trying to dance like him. 392 00:20:00,325 --> 00:20:03,286 -Oh, that's awesome. -Tyler said, "I cannot dance." 393 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:04,537 [laughing] 394 00:20:04,621 --> 00:20:07,666 But I said, "That's what he did to make everybody laugh." 395 00:20:07,749 --> 00:20:12,587 And you should have seen Tyler smile. It was like I was smiling at Damani. 396 00:20:12,671 --> 00:20:16,174 Because his smile was so big, and he said he felt his big smile. 397 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:22,806 This is all I wanted, and I don't know how you did it. 398 00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:24,099 I don't know how you did it. 399 00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:28,228 I feel comforted knowing that Tyler sees him as happy. 400 00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:30,772 -[man] Yeah. -He seems to be happy. 401 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:37,195 [man] I didn't want our relationship to be defined and built on tragedy. 402 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:40,907 What I want for our relationship is to be built on healing and peace. 403 00:20:40,991 --> 00:20:44,202 I want for us to build a life together. 404 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:47,539 One that's, that we can… always be there for each other. 405 00:20:47,622 --> 00:20:49,749 And I'll always be there for you. 406 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:52,085 Oh my goodness. 407 00:20:52,168 --> 00:20:53,211 [sniffles] 408 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:58,466 [man] From the moment I met you, I knew you were the woman for me. 409 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:00,260 I had no doubts in my mind. 410 00:21:00,343 --> 00:21:03,471 Every day I wake up, and I just want to be with you. 411 00:21:03,555 --> 00:21:06,933 -Will you marry me, Justine? -Yes. Yes. 412 00:21:08,977 --> 00:21:11,271 Oh my goodness. [cries] 413 00:21:11,354 --> 00:21:12,188 [sniffles] 414 00:21:12,272 --> 00:21:14,316 Oh my goodness, Tom. 415 00:21:15,442 --> 00:21:17,193 I cannot believe this. 416 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,322 I love you so much. 417 00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:21,823 [merry music playing] 418 00:21:32,083 --> 00:21:33,335 [Justine] What a day! 419 00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:35,462 [Tom] I love it. 420 00:21:35,545 --> 00:21:37,005 [Justine sighs] 421 00:21:43,386 --> 00:21:45,180 [Theresa] I don't know if people believe 422 00:21:45,263 --> 00:21:49,351 that you just really jump in bed and stay there until the next day. 423 00:21:49,434 --> 00:21:51,353 I'm very boring outside of my job. 424 00:21:51,436 --> 00:21:54,147 [Theresa] I know, but it takes a lot out of you doing the reading. 425 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:59,652 It does. I spend a lot of time very stationary, just under the covers. 426 00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:00,737 [Theresa] Yeah. 427 00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:05,033 When you were taking a shower, I was in here cleaning in your room. 428 00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:06,826 I heard you talking to someone. 429 00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:08,036 Having a conversation? 430 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,580 [Theresa] Yeah. In the shower, with yourself. 431 00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:12,582 -It wasn't with myself, but… -[Theresa] Really? 432 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,127 -Yeah, yeah. It's when I let things go. -[Theresa] Yeah. 433 00:22:16,211 --> 00:22:21,091 -I have to clear myself of head stuff. -[Theresa] I know. 434 00:22:21,174 --> 00:22:25,095 I have to really get into a certain state of consciousness 435 00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:27,055 in order to do my job effectively. 436 00:22:27,138 --> 00:22:31,059 That requires me to… detach from everything else 437 00:22:31,142 --> 00:22:33,311 and attach to it, 438 00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:34,729 whatever "it" is. 439 00:22:34,813 --> 00:22:38,608 It doesn't seem to want me to know, but that's a different story. 440 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:41,111 [Theresa] Well, whatever it is, 441 00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:44,322 I guess they picked the right person to give you this gift. 442 00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:48,118 Well, I am thankful to have the abilities, you know. 443 00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:50,453 I wouldn't be able to do it on my own. 444 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,038 And I know that, 445 00:22:52,122 --> 00:22:55,166 but it feels a bit like jumping out of a plane, 446 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:59,003 and just trusting that the parachute's going to open. 'Cause they'd always-- 447 00:22:59,087 --> 00:23:00,088 [Theresa] Oh my God. 448 00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:02,424 They've always been my parachute, so to speak. 449 00:23:02,507 --> 00:23:05,427 I mean, they… them. 450 00:23:07,303 --> 00:23:09,139 [Theresa] That's a shitty feeling. 451 00:23:10,473 --> 00:23:14,936 Well, I mean, it's a way to frame it. I think it's exhilarating and fun. 452 00:23:15,019 --> 00:23:16,980 -It all comes at a price. -[Theresa] I know. 453 00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:19,524 It's just part of it, part of the job. 454 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:22,986 [Theresa] I know it takes its toll on you, and I'm so sorry. 455 00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:25,029 I can see it in your little face now. 456 00:23:25,113 --> 00:23:26,656 -I can-- -I'm really fine. 457 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:28,408 -[Theresa] Okay. -I'm really good. 458 00:23:28,491 --> 00:23:30,743 It's… this is nothing new to me. 459 00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:32,454 This ain't my first rodeo. 460 00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:35,790 [crickets chirping] 461 00:23:44,007 --> 00:23:48,636 -Aw. This is Tom and Justine. -I should have glasses. Let me see. 462 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,180 I didn't get to meet them. 463 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:52,849 -Him I said "hi" to, but that was it. -Let's watch. 464 00:23:53,892 --> 00:23:55,894 -[Justine] Hi, Tyler! -[Tom] Hi, Tyler! 465 00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:57,395 [Justine] I'm still decompressing. 466 00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:01,441 My mind is blown that I met you and had the most extraordinary reading. 467 00:24:01,524 --> 00:24:04,569 -I'm grateful. One exciting piece of news. -Big news! 468 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,905 -After the reading, this happened. -[cheering] 469 00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:08,239 Oh my God. 470 00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:10,742 [Justine] …because of you. We are so grateful. 471 00:24:10,825 --> 00:24:15,455 And big hug to your mom. Just wanted to give you both a big hug. 472 00:24:15,538 --> 00:24:16,456 Oh. 473 00:24:16,539 --> 00:24:18,082 [Tom] Thank you so much. Bye! 474 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,084 [Theresa] I would've loved to have met her. 475 00:24:20,168 --> 00:24:22,462 -That is so sweet. -[Tyler laughs] 476 00:24:22,545 --> 00:24:26,716 -That is so awesome. Oh my gosh. -I'm gonna, like, full on Kim K ugly cry. 477 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,468 -That is so sweet. -[Heather] Wow. 478 00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:30,178 [upbeat music playing] 479 00:24:40,897 --> 00:24:43,441 -I really love New Orleans. -Me too. 480 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:48,029 -It has a whole newfound meaning to me. -Yeah. 481 00:24:48,112 --> 00:24:49,364 [Tyler] I'm here in New Orleans. 482 00:24:49,447 --> 00:24:52,951 I'm really hoping I can get any clarification on my family history. 483 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,162 I feel I look tired today 'cause I am. 484 00:24:56,955 --> 00:24:59,165 -You've been through a lot this week. -[Tyler] Yeah. 485 00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:04,546 It's been a lot of emotional stress every single day so… 486 00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:09,300 I've hit a wall with the research that my Aunt Mary has done and Clint. 487 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:14,973 We haven't gotten solid answers as much as we've gotten clarification on timelines. 488 00:25:15,473 --> 00:25:17,308 It's extremely frustrating. 489 00:25:17,392 --> 00:25:20,436 Especially considering my situation is very unique. 490 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,981 My ability is very unique. It's tough for mediums. 491 00:25:23,064 --> 00:25:26,985 We're expected to have the answers, but I don't. I need help. 492 00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:28,736 Lovely to meet you. I'm Tyler. 493 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:31,155 -[woman] Good to meet you. I'm excited! -Good to meet you. 494 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:32,532 -Thank you so much. -Hi. 495 00:25:32,615 --> 00:25:36,244 [Tyler] I decided to call Pamela Slaton, an investigative genealogist. 496 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,372 She's an expert in DNA analysis and family tracing. 497 00:25:39,455 --> 00:25:42,458 If anyone can track down the missing pieces for us, it's her. 498 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:46,087 This is obviously a new territory for me, so we really appreciate it. 499 00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:49,507 -To give you a rundown of why we're here. -[Pamela] Yeah. 500 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:52,760 My mom, three years ago, through a 23andMe test, 501 00:25:52,844 --> 00:25:56,139 discovered that she was taken as a baby. 502 00:25:56,222 --> 00:25:59,267 Her parents were not actually her parents. 503 00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:03,021 -They were lying. -The DNA, you never suspected anything? 504 00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:07,775 -Never suspected anything. Never. -You do this test just like everyone else. 505 00:26:08,276 --> 00:26:10,445 You think, "I'm gonna get my nationalities." 506 00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:11,904 "This is gonna be awesome." 507 00:26:11,988 --> 00:26:14,741 All of a sudden, you get the shock of a lifetime. 508 00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:19,537 -Exactly. I'm sure. -It happens so often, you'd be blown away. 509 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:23,082 [Tyler] We're in a unique situation. The woman I thought was my grandmother, 510 00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:24,167 Stella was her name, 511 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,377 was convicted of two homicides. 512 00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:30,340 She was involved in a number of people's deaths in one way or another. 513 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:32,342 She spent over 30 years in prison. 514 00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:34,218 -Can I slow you down a little? -[Tyler] I know. 515 00:26:34,302 --> 00:26:37,388 'Cause you just loaded me up with a lot of information. 516 00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:40,016 -It's a lot. -[Pamela] So, okay. Bio-Grandma. 517 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,810 Did she give your mom over to Stella? 518 00:26:42,894 --> 00:26:45,063 She did, but we don't know why. 519 00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:48,983 So when your aunt, your mom's half-sister, 520 00:26:49,067 --> 00:26:52,654 reaches out to your mom, what does she say happened? 521 00:26:53,404 --> 00:26:55,823 [Tyler] We know that my mom was born in New Orleans. 522 00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:58,660 And my aunt was able to do some research, 523 00:26:58,743 --> 00:27:01,245 and found there was stuff going on at this hospital 524 00:27:01,329 --> 00:27:03,122 around when my mom was born. 525 00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:06,376 Do you think Stella had anything to do with this? 526 00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:08,961 -That's what we're trying to determine. -[Pamela] Additionally? 527 00:27:09,045 --> 00:27:11,089 [Tyler] In my mind, she had to have had help. 528 00:27:11,172 --> 00:27:13,257 My mom's birth certificate was forged. 529 00:27:13,341 --> 00:27:14,967 There were things altered on it. 530 00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:20,139 Typically, a birth certificate is done in the hospital. 531 00:27:20,223 --> 00:27:22,016 You give birth, and they come. 532 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,228 They take the information, and the certificate's created. 533 00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:28,731 What I'd love to see is your mom's original birth certificate, 534 00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:31,067 which I'm guessing is nowhere to be found. 535 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:33,027 That's been the missing answer. 536 00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,738 If the original birth certificate comes back, 537 00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:38,616 and it did have Stella's name on it from the get-go, 538 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:40,326 it'll reflect the greater truth 539 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:43,037 that my grandmother was not able to take care of my mom, 540 00:27:43,121 --> 00:27:44,831 that she was in a desperate position. 541 00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:47,291 And that position got taken advantage of by a person. 542 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:50,795 I have another question, going in a completely different direction. 543 00:27:50,878 --> 00:27:51,921 Who's Bio-Grandpa? 544 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:56,509 Bio-Grandpa? Uh, it was basically a one-time fling. 545 00:27:56,592 --> 00:27:59,971 Anything that you happen to get about the paternal side would be helpful. 546 00:28:00,054 --> 00:28:02,098 -Do I have your permission to nudge? -Of course. 547 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,474 Yes. Absolutely. 548 00:28:03,558 --> 00:28:05,017 -Yeah? -[Tyler] Absolutely. 549 00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:07,311 Obviously, this is a lot and very convoluted, 550 00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:10,273 and any answers you can provide we'll really appreciate. 551 00:28:10,356 --> 00:28:14,152 I know what it means to want the answers and to want closure, 552 00:28:14,235 --> 00:28:18,781 and to wanna just know where you come from. 553 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:20,700 We have a habit. 554 00:28:20,783 --> 00:28:22,994 I'm an adoptee, and I totally get it. 555 00:28:23,077 --> 00:28:25,163 Have a habit of pushing down information. 556 00:28:25,246 --> 00:28:28,040 -Pushing down things that are hurtful. -Sure. 557 00:28:28,124 --> 00:28:31,502 And we can kinda just keep a brave front, you know, face. 558 00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:34,172 -And pretend as though it's all okay. -Yeah. 559 00:28:34,255 --> 00:28:37,216 [Pamela] But it really can affect someone deeply. 560 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,261 I guess at this point our question is, what's the next step? 561 00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:43,931 Okay. So first, let's figure out, is Stella really Stella? 562 00:28:44,015 --> 00:28:49,061 Then I also wanna see if there's a way of getting the original birth certificate. 563 00:28:49,145 --> 00:28:52,648 Then I'm gonna go poke and prod a little bit on the paternal family. 564 00:28:52,732 --> 00:28:53,941 That'd be incredible. 565 00:28:54,025 --> 00:28:55,735 I can't guarantee you anything. 566 00:28:55,818 --> 00:28:58,488 I never guarantee my clients success, 567 00:28:58,571 --> 00:29:02,658 but I can guarantee you that I will not give up. 568 00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:04,994 [vibrant music playing] 569 00:29:13,628 --> 00:29:16,672 [Tyler] It was the weirdest thing. I was awake around two in the morning. 570 00:29:16,756 --> 00:29:22,386 It was this tall shadow that obstructed the light coming from outside, inside. 571 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:24,514 -Made it dark for a moment. -[Theresa] You were awake? 572 00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:27,934 I was wide awake. Then I realized I'm 11 stories up. 573 00:29:28,017 --> 00:29:29,560 God, you're giving me the creeps. 574 00:29:29,644 --> 00:29:31,687 Which meant whatever it was was in my room, 575 00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:33,022 walking past the window. 576 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:38,694 And so I spoke to it and was like, "Hello, uh. Hi. Hope you're all good." 577 00:29:38,778 --> 00:29:40,029 "I need some rest." 578 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:43,574 And then it just got noticeably freezing cold in the room. 579 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:46,536 -Not air-conditioner cold. Freezing cold. -No way. 580 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,204 I got full-body chills. I was like, 581 00:29:48,287 --> 00:29:51,123 "Gonna hide under the blanket. Appreciate it if you go away." 582 00:29:51,207 --> 00:29:53,918 -I hid under the blanket. -Oh my God. No way. 583 00:29:54,001 --> 00:29:56,587 It creeped me out. I was like, "We're not doing this now." 584 00:29:56,671 --> 00:29:58,506 "I'm off the clock." 585 00:29:59,006 --> 00:30:01,342 [Theresa] That is so freaky. 586 00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:05,680 [woman] Wonderful to meet you. 587 00:30:05,763 --> 00:30:07,181 -Come on in. -Happy to be here. 588 00:30:07,265 --> 00:30:09,851 [Tyler] It's the most gorgeously landscaped house. 589 00:30:09,934 --> 00:30:11,102 [woman] Thank you so much. 590 00:30:11,185 --> 00:30:13,563 It's chilly out here. I have to have a blanket. 591 00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:14,981 It is chilly. My goodness. 592 00:30:15,064 --> 00:30:17,400 That's why I brought a jacket just in case. 593 00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,861 -Unusual for this time of year. -[Tyler] Yeah. 594 00:30:19,944 --> 00:30:21,153 In the South. 595 00:30:21,237 --> 00:30:23,531 Well, thank you for having me today. 596 00:30:23,614 --> 00:30:25,700 I'm excited to see what comes through. 597 00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:27,660 -Do you have an object for me? -I do. 598 00:30:27,743 --> 00:30:29,495 -You can put it on the table. -Okay. 599 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,708 Okay, so I'm just gonna scribble. 600 00:30:33,791 --> 00:30:35,084 [pen scribbles] 601 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:36,711 [Tyler] So you got that. 602 00:30:38,296 --> 00:30:39,881 Gonna see where we go with this 603 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:44,510 'cause I have a few people striking me initially as being pretty interesting. 604 00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:47,638 Okay. 605 00:30:48,806 --> 00:30:49,640 Okay. 606 00:30:50,308 --> 00:30:53,227 I'm getting a Leo reference, which means one of two things. 607 00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:54,729 Either somebody's a Leo, 608 00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:56,147 or there's a Leonard. 609 00:30:57,148 --> 00:31:00,735 -Oh my God. [shrieks] -[Tyler] Who's Leonard? 610 00:31:00,818 --> 00:31:02,862 -Does that make sense? -Yes. Are you serious? 611 00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:04,614 -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -[laughs] 612 00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:06,115 That's my grandfather. 613 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,201 He's like, "Don't forget me," in the way this comes across. 614 00:31:09,285 --> 00:31:12,622 -We are not forgetting you. -[Tyler] He's absolutely connected. 615 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:14,582 But he's important, so… 616 00:31:14,665 --> 00:31:17,335 God, there's a lot here. Okay, I'm gonna keep going. 617 00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:22,256 -Okay. He was cute. -[woman] Yeah. 618 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:23,549 [Tyler] When he comes across. 619 00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:27,261 You know when people start going bald, and then they've really gone bald? 620 00:31:27,345 --> 00:31:31,182 But they still jokingly act like they're combing their hair. 621 00:31:31,265 --> 00:31:32,892 -Like, doing this. -Yes. [laughs] 622 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,187 He's giving me a joke of, like, "Luscious locks!" 623 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,105 But he's clearly bald. 624 00:31:38,189 --> 00:31:40,524 -Or at least balding very heavily. -[woman] Oh my gosh. 625 00:31:40,608 --> 00:31:43,444 He had the comb over, like, the hair comb over. 626 00:31:43,527 --> 00:31:46,238 -[Tyler] "I'm working with what I have." -[woman] Yeah. 627 00:31:46,322 --> 00:31:49,659 -He's self-aware of it, and it's funny. -Okay. 628 00:31:49,742 --> 00:31:53,079 So I'm gonna hold onto this, now that I know I've got a connection. 629 00:31:53,996 --> 00:31:56,332 And see if I get anything here. 630 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:00,419 Okay. 631 00:32:01,879 --> 00:32:03,422 I'm gonna put the object down. 632 00:32:05,925 --> 00:32:08,177 It's a younger individual I have to highlight. 633 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,179 I can tell this would've been a male. 634 00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,598 He's giving me this feeling of being a contemporary, 635 00:32:12,682 --> 00:32:17,269 and a contemporary would usually be on our same generational level typically. 636 00:32:17,353 --> 00:32:20,022 -My heart is racing right now. -[Tyler] It's all good. 637 00:32:20,106 --> 00:32:23,359 This guy keeps coming in, and he's showing me glasses. 638 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,904 Like glasses that you would wear. Like, "Huh? Spectacles." 639 00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:29,407 It's just a funny thing that strikes me. 640 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:32,660 When he comes through, he's not wanting me to get too serious. 641 00:32:32,743 --> 00:32:34,829 He's giving me light-hearted feelings. 642 00:32:34,912 --> 00:32:37,540 He wants that to be the focus and the emphasis today, 643 00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:39,250 not the sadness around how he went. 644 00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:42,461 He strikes me as the type that when he would enter into a room, 645 00:32:42,545 --> 00:32:44,922 I feel like he had an undeniable presence. 646 00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:46,799 It's like, you couldn't ignore him, 647 00:32:46,882 --> 00:32:50,302 but he didn't want to be noticed, if that makes sense. 648 00:32:50,386 --> 00:32:51,595 Well, he was six-three. 649 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:55,307 -You notice when he walks in. [laughs] -A tall guy. 650 00:32:55,391 --> 00:32:57,685 Yeah, he's like, "Rather be the wallflower." 651 00:32:57,768 --> 00:32:59,937 -[woman] Yeah, exactly. -Yeah, it's cute. 652 00:33:00,021 --> 00:33:01,772 Um, I'm gonna scribble. 653 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:03,607 Okay. 654 00:33:06,569 --> 00:33:07,737 [pen scribbles] 655 00:33:09,447 --> 00:33:11,657 There is a reference there. 656 00:33:12,158 --> 00:33:13,367 Okay. 657 00:33:13,451 --> 00:33:15,536 When he comes in, it feels like 658 00:33:15,619 --> 00:33:20,249 he… he lived a solid life in the time that he had. 659 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:23,169 But his life was cut short, in the way this comes across. 660 00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:25,171 This feels very, um, tragic. 661 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,006 Phew. 662 00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:33,054 Okay. Yeah, he is having me bring up kind of the Valentine's Day thing. 663 00:33:33,137 --> 00:33:36,849 I don't know why he's bringing this up, but this was a hard time for somebody. 664 00:33:36,932 --> 00:33:39,143 That's about the time that he had passed. 665 00:33:39,226 --> 00:33:41,312 [Tyler] Gotcha. Yeah, there. 666 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:42,855 Um… 667 00:33:43,481 --> 00:33:45,566 It feels extremely… 668 00:33:46,901 --> 00:33:48,527 like, "I'm here, and then I'm gone." 669 00:33:48,611 --> 00:33:51,655 Um, I don't feel like there's room for a deterioration. 670 00:33:51,739 --> 00:33:54,784 -Absolutely not. -[Tyler] I feel my heart stop. 671 00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:57,119 And it's all he's giving me about it. 672 00:33:57,203 --> 00:33:59,246 -Yeah. -[Tyler] There's something weird. 673 00:33:59,330 --> 00:34:01,165 The way it comes across. Feels like, 674 00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:03,709 people, when they heard, they'd be like, "Really?" 675 00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:05,711 "Are we sure? Can we double-check?" 676 00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:07,630 -Like-- -That was my response. 677 00:34:07,713 --> 00:34:09,757 I was like, "Are you sure?" Like, "What?" 678 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,967 I mean, he was 33. 679 00:34:12,468 --> 00:34:15,346 He does bring up… That's so weird. 680 00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:19,600 I'm trying to determine the passing thing. It's such a specific way someone goes. 681 00:34:19,683 --> 00:34:23,145 -[woman] Yeah. -And not one that I'm super familiar with. 682 00:34:23,229 --> 00:34:25,231 I was hoping to get some answers with that. 683 00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:27,316 -Can I talk about it? Okay. -Yeah. 684 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:32,238 Um, so what we know of is, he had been working all day long. 685 00:34:32,321 --> 00:34:36,283 And then he ended up going to a bar to meet his wife to hang out. 686 00:34:36,367 --> 00:34:37,743 He had a couple of drinks. 687 00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:41,163 -Not something that'd cause him to be ill. -[Tyler] Sure. 688 00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:44,125 At all. But he was in the parking lot. 689 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:46,502 And he literally just passed out. 690 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,921 From what I remember, he fell to his knees. 691 00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:50,464 Then he fell back. 692 00:34:50,548 --> 00:34:52,508 He hit the back of his head. 693 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:55,010 They said it was because he hit the back of his head 694 00:34:55,094 --> 00:34:56,303 and had a brain bleed. 695 00:34:56,387 --> 00:34:59,682 I'm like, "he couldn't have hit the ground that hard." 696 00:34:59,765 --> 00:35:02,101 That's what I'm thinking. If you're on your knees… 697 00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:03,310 -Yeah. -[Tyler] Yeah. 698 00:35:03,394 --> 00:35:07,481 I'm… that's not what I'm getting as far as what caused him to pass. 699 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:08,691 So that's the thing. 700 00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:13,154 It reminds me of people who sometimes have pulmonary embolisms, strokes, 701 00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:14,446 or heart attacks. 702 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:17,575 But he gave me this feeling of a jolt with internally. 703 00:35:17,658 --> 00:35:20,327 -And then I feel my heart stop. -Wow. Okay. 704 00:35:20,411 --> 00:35:22,997 Something had to be going on internally. 705 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,249 Okay. They did an autopsy, of course. 706 00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:27,418 So we know that he had an enlarged heart. 707 00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:30,212 -[Tyler] Okay. -But there was no sign of a heart attack 708 00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:31,922 or anything like that. 709 00:35:32,006 --> 00:35:33,799 -He didn't suffer. -[woman] Okay. 710 00:35:33,883 --> 00:35:36,427 He comes through lighthearted, happy, and jovial. 711 00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:37,845 My interpretation is, 712 00:35:37,928 --> 00:35:41,140 there could have been a brain bleed with the heart problem. 713 00:35:41,223 --> 00:35:44,018 Those two things could have facilitated this, 714 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:46,645 but heart seems like the answer for me. 715 00:35:46,729 --> 00:35:48,689 -In the way this is coming through. -Okay. 716 00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:51,567 He had a beautiful heart in spirit, but he had a bad organ. 717 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,861 It runs in our family. Heart issues do. 718 00:35:53,944 --> 00:35:55,529 -Makes sense. -[Tyler] Gotcha. 719 00:35:55,613 --> 00:35:58,574 I just want to know who this was to you? What was his name? 720 00:35:58,657 --> 00:36:00,075 My brother, Brian. 721 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:06,123 Brian was a little quirky, kind of funny. 722 00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:08,042 Very tall. 723 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:11,420 "String Bean" was kind of a nickname for him. 724 00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:16,467 We actually weren't that close because I was five years younger than him, 725 00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,135 but I wanted to be closer to him, 726 00:36:18,219 --> 00:36:21,222 but with the age gap, it just didn't happen, 727 00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:22,765 as much as I wanted it to. 728 00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:26,018 And then he suddenly just passed away. 729 00:36:26,769 --> 00:36:30,439 I didn't really get to bond with him. 730 00:36:31,023 --> 00:36:34,026 And wanting to be close. It was very hard. 731 00:36:37,154 --> 00:36:38,322 All right. 732 00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:40,824 He's bringing up your mom, pretty strongly. 733 00:36:40,908 --> 00:36:43,869 Yeah. He has some stuff for her. 734 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:46,497 He also refers to Dad, in the way this comes through. 735 00:36:46,580 --> 00:36:47,998 So is Dad living? 736 00:36:48,082 --> 00:36:49,708 -Yes, he is. -[Tyler] In the picture. 737 00:36:49,792 --> 00:36:52,378 -Both of my parents are still alive. -[Tyler] Yeah. 738 00:36:55,673 --> 00:36:56,840 Mm-mm. 739 00:37:00,594 --> 00:37:04,556 Uh, let me look here. Trying to figure out what this is. Um… 740 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:06,934 [smacks lips] 741 00:37:07,017 --> 00:37:08,060 Okay. 742 00:37:12,231 --> 00:37:13,691 Um… 743 00:37:13,774 --> 00:37:16,068 Trying to think of how to handle this. 744 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:21,198 Some of these people on the other side had a hand in 745 00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:23,033 helping your mother 746 00:37:24,243 --> 00:37:25,411 figure something out. 747 00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:27,871 I'm trying to figure out what this is. 748 00:37:27,955 --> 00:37:30,666 -There's some people who've passed. -Okay. 749 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,626 They feel like they led 750 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:35,921 your mother to come to an understanding of something. 751 00:37:36,005 --> 00:37:38,090 I know it's vague, but I gotta keep going 752 00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,342 because it's getting progressively specific. 753 00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:41,552 Let me look. 754 00:37:43,012 --> 00:37:45,639 So many people here, I'm having a hard time managing. 755 00:37:45,723 --> 00:37:47,725 It's your mom. Um… 756 00:37:47,808 --> 00:37:52,313 I kinda wonder with her upbringing, if there isn't something big there. 757 00:37:52,396 --> 00:37:54,189 In the way this comes across. 758 00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:57,568 The weird thing is, it's not just upbringing. 759 00:37:57,651 --> 00:37:59,695 -[woman] Oh my gosh. -This is gonna blow my mind. 760 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:02,865 If this is accurate. We've been following my mom's journey. 761 00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:05,868 -Really? -And there's something kind of similar. 762 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:09,288 I don't want to say it's exact, but it's similar in the feeling of, 763 00:38:09,371 --> 00:38:13,042 discovery, coming to an awareness, a conclusion. 764 00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:16,920 And I feel like the people on the other side tried to make this happen. 765 00:38:17,004 --> 00:38:19,381 The people on the other side tried to make it happen? 766 00:38:19,465 --> 00:38:23,510 [Tyler] They were pushing events to happen, so that your mom could get this. 767 00:38:23,594 --> 00:38:27,389 -If that makes sense. Does it make sense? -Yes. This is so awesome! 768 00:38:27,473 --> 00:38:28,432 Oh my God. 769 00:38:29,183 --> 00:38:32,019 [theme music playing]