1 00:00:06,466 --> 00:00:09,552 [atmospheric music playing] 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,184 [birds chirping] 3 00:00:18,436 --> 00:00:19,437 [Tyler] Um… 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,233 He just seems to be going back to the people he surrounded himself with. 5 00:00:24,317 --> 00:00:26,486 And, and obtaining money, 6 00:00:26,569 --> 00:00:29,030 things to do for money, that kind of thing. 7 00:00:29,113 --> 00:00:32,950 I have to suspect that, in some way, played into how he passed. 8 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:38,206 And he knew that there was no way out of the situation. 9 00:00:39,999 --> 00:00:40,833 Yeah? 10 00:00:42,752 --> 00:00:44,253 Something come to mind? 11 00:00:47,006 --> 00:00:48,883 It almost seems like he… 12 00:00:51,135 --> 00:00:53,054 knew that he was gonna die that day. 13 00:00:53,137 --> 00:00:53,971 [Tyler] Mm-hmm. 14 00:00:54,055 --> 00:00:55,598 [dramatic music playing] 15 00:01:07,151 --> 00:01:11,280 He called my mom, just weirdly. "Mom, are you okay?" 16 00:01:11,364 --> 00:01:13,825 She's like, "What is your deal? Yes, I'm okay." 17 00:01:13,908 --> 00:01:14,909 [Tyler] Yeah. 18 00:01:14,992 --> 00:01:19,163 -He dealt with dangerous people, and uh… -[Tyler] Yeah. 19 00:01:20,623 --> 00:01:25,628 I… I can only guess that a threat was made. 20 00:01:25,711 --> 00:01:27,797 -That if you don't do this-- -[Tyler] Yes. 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,091 -Then we're gonna harm your family. -[Tyler] Right. 22 00:01:30,174 --> 00:01:32,051 -Do we know who killed him? -[woman] Not yet. 23 00:01:32,135 --> 00:01:33,553 -I kinda do. -[Tyler] M'kay. 24 00:01:40,268 --> 00:01:41,352 Keep this in mind. 25 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,772 This feels like he is showing me that he was lured 26 00:01:44,856 --> 00:01:47,358 to wherever he went. You need to know that. 27 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:48,734 -Okay? -Oh my God. 28 00:01:48,818 --> 00:01:51,779 [Tyler] So if you suspect that person you're thinking about, 29 00:01:51,863 --> 00:01:55,032 if that could have tied into this, he's validating this today. 30 00:01:55,116 --> 00:01:55,950 [woman] Wow. 31 00:01:56,576 --> 00:02:00,454 [Tyler] I always have to be careful, 'cause I don't wanna incriminate anybody, 32 00:02:00,538 --> 00:02:03,166 but there's an element of, he got betrayed. 33 00:02:03,249 --> 00:02:05,543 His "friend" at the time 34 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:08,546 is the person that, I suspect, lured him 35 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:11,257 to the person that actually pulled the trigger. 36 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:12,300 [Tyler] Yes. 37 00:02:12,383 --> 00:02:15,887 But we know for a fact that this "friend" was 38 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:18,848 admittedly the last person with my brother. 39 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:22,101 -Yeah. -Admittedly dropped him off 40 00:02:22,185 --> 00:02:25,146 at a gas station that no one has seen him at. 41 00:02:25,229 --> 00:02:28,608 -Yeah, I feel like justice will be served. -You do? 42 00:02:28,691 --> 00:02:30,359 [Tyler] I think the person who did this, 43 00:02:30,443 --> 00:02:33,821 they're showing my symbol for incarceration, but in other ways. 44 00:02:33,905 --> 00:02:36,657 So this person who did this may get caught 45 00:02:37,742 --> 00:02:41,537 doing something else. And then information might come from that. 46 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:45,791 You know, despite all this, he felt like a good guy. 47 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:47,501 -You know? Yeah. -He was. 48 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:50,421 -He was a really good brother. -[Tyler] Yeah. 49 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:52,089 I miss him a lot. 50 00:02:54,926 --> 00:02:57,803 My brother was in the street at a very young age, 51 00:02:57,887 --> 00:03:02,516 both him and I. That's when we started to hustle. 52 00:03:03,184 --> 00:03:06,979 Um, that's when we started getting money-- Illegal ways. 53 00:03:07,063 --> 00:03:09,774 We didn't think about the consequences, right? 54 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:13,402 Nobody told us. We didn't have any role models that said, 55 00:03:13,486 --> 00:03:15,947 "You're going to prison, or you're gonna be dead." 56 00:03:16,030 --> 00:03:20,660 No one tried to put us on the right track. We didn't have those role models. 57 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:25,498 My brother went to federal prison for about seven years. 58 00:03:25,581 --> 00:03:29,418 He was released, and not even a year later, he was dead. 59 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:32,630 When I decided to change my life around, 60 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:36,634 I made that decision for total self-preservation. 61 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:42,348 Um, it was maybe a selfish decision, but I knew that I had to leave that city. 62 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:48,896 And I never tried to get him to do anything different with his life. 63 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:52,817 That's another area of regret and guilt that I have. 64 00:03:54,318 --> 00:03:56,988 When this comes through, it's not blaming anybody. 65 00:03:57,071 --> 00:04:00,116 It's not judging anybody. It's saying, "This is how someone feels." 66 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:03,035 It's clearly how you feel. And he wants you to be free 67 00:04:03,119 --> 00:04:06,122 of that feeling like you could have or should have acted sooner. 68 00:04:06,205 --> 00:04:07,039 Yes. 69 00:04:10,668 --> 00:04:13,421 Do they hear me when I talk and pray to them? 70 00:04:13,504 --> 00:04:14,505 Oh, absolutely. 71 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,550 I always tell people, they hear us. They feel our intention. 72 00:04:17,633 --> 00:04:19,760 That's the power of this. When I do a reading, 73 00:04:19,844 --> 00:04:23,306 I set the intention to connect. And when you talk to them out loud… 74 00:04:23,389 --> 00:04:26,350 [chuckles] …in any capacity, they feel this. They know this. 75 00:04:27,685 --> 00:04:29,979 [woman] That's my prayers to them. 76 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:33,899 When I talk to them, it's just, like… [grunts] 77 00:04:33,983 --> 00:04:37,570 "Just let me know you're here with me." I say that to them. 78 00:04:37,653 --> 00:04:41,032 You're not alone with them. They're still a part of your life. 79 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:42,825 That's very, very helpful to hear. 80 00:04:42,908 --> 00:04:45,328 Now I feel like I have my brother and my dad. 81 00:04:45,411 --> 00:04:46,954 -They're here with me. -[Tyler] Exactly. 82 00:04:47,038 --> 00:04:49,582 -Do you mind if I give you a hug? -No, I do not. 83 00:04:49,665 --> 00:04:52,877 -I'd love that. Thank you. -[Tyler] This from both of them today. 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,795 Thank you. 85 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:58,924 Tyler has given me permission to live my life. 86 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,803 He's given me a new focus and some hope. 87 00:05:03,679 --> 00:05:06,098 [uplifting music playing] 88 00:05:06,182 --> 00:05:09,143 -It was such a beautiful read. -Really? 89 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:12,313 -[Tyler] It's why we do what we do, huh? -I'm glad to hear. 90 00:05:12,396 --> 00:05:13,856 It was so healing. 91 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:15,733 [uplifting music continues] 92 00:05:25,409 --> 00:05:27,119 [soft music playing] 93 00:05:44,178 --> 00:05:46,889 [Tyler] We came to New Orleans to try to get answers. 94 00:05:46,972 --> 00:05:49,392 I've already spoken to the family my mom grew up with. 95 00:05:49,475 --> 00:05:52,353 But now it's time to sit with my mom's biological family 96 00:05:52,436 --> 00:05:53,938 and maybe give them a reading. 97 00:05:54,021 --> 00:05:55,189 [Theresa] I'll put a pile of 98 00:05:55,272 --> 00:05:57,775 underwear and things where you have easy access to 'em. 99 00:05:57,858 --> 00:05:59,568 -[Tyler] Okay. -Okay. 100 00:05:59,652 --> 00:06:03,864 I've only met them once. If I get too emotional, too invested, too biased, 101 00:06:03,948 --> 00:06:06,742 then my connection to the other side becomes skewed. 102 00:06:06,826 --> 00:06:09,203 So I'm hoping that I can get clarification. 103 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:12,832 Anything, any piece of information that I don't know, would be helpful. 104 00:06:12,915 --> 00:06:15,418 I have a lot of questions about how this happened, 105 00:06:15,501 --> 00:06:19,088 and I know that only the people in New Orleans could have the answer. 106 00:06:19,672 --> 00:06:21,841 How are you feeling with seeing your family? 107 00:06:21,924 --> 00:06:26,178 [Theresa] Oh, I'm… I'm good. I'm excited. I mean, I'm sure it's gonna be fine. 108 00:06:27,179 --> 00:06:30,433 I only found out about my biological siblings 109 00:06:30,516 --> 00:06:33,227 about two years ago through DNA testing. 110 00:06:33,811 --> 00:06:36,814 By talking to them on the phone for hours at a time, 111 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:39,275 they explained to me what had happened, 112 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:41,360 and how my mother had given me up. 113 00:06:41,861 --> 00:06:44,697 They didn't know all the details as to how and why. 114 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:48,576 They've been looking for me all this time. And I had no idea. 115 00:06:49,076 --> 00:06:50,828 It was so overwhelming. 116 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:00,296 -Oh my goodness. -[Tyler] Hello. 117 00:07:00,379 --> 00:07:01,839 She's the one driving! 118 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:04,216 -[man] Be careful. -[Theresa] Oh my goodness. 119 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:05,426 [Tyler] Oh! 120 00:07:05,509 --> 00:07:07,678 And she's got purple nails! [laughs] 121 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:09,388 Hi. Look at you. 122 00:07:09,472 --> 00:07:11,599 How's it goin' on? [screams] 123 00:07:11,682 --> 00:07:12,558 [laughing] 124 00:07:12,641 --> 00:07:14,768 [woman] I'm five years older than Theresa. 125 00:07:14,852 --> 00:07:16,729 She's my baby sister. 126 00:07:16,812 --> 00:07:20,024 I've been looking for my sister since 1969. 127 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:23,652 There would be times where I'd be like, "Okay, well, where do I start?" 128 00:07:23,736 --> 00:07:26,906 But I always felt she wasn't where she supposed to be. 129 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:29,658 And I know Mom is up there, and she's like, 130 00:07:29,742 --> 00:07:30,576 "Keep going." 131 00:07:31,452 --> 00:07:34,455 [Tyler] Not only do my mom and my Aunt Mary almost look identical, 132 00:07:34,538 --> 00:07:35,706 they dress the same. 133 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:38,209 They have the same mannerisms. 134 00:07:38,709 --> 00:07:39,960 It's pretty crazy. 135 00:07:40,044 --> 00:07:42,087 [Theresa] What is happening here, guys? 136 00:07:42,171 --> 00:07:43,839 George, tell us what's happening. 137 00:07:43,923 --> 00:07:46,967 What we're gonna do is, we used to take nets and everything 138 00:07:47,051 --> 00:07:49,011 and go over and catch the crabs and-- 139 00:07:49,094 --> 00:07:52,306 -No way. Oh my gosh. -[George] This is Bayou St. John area. 140 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:53,265 The lakefront. 141 00:07:53,349 --> 00:07:55,976 We grew up very poor, 142 00:07:56,060 --> 00:07:59,146 but even though we had hard times, my mom was a fantastic person. 143 00:07:59,230 --> 00:08:02,066 She made sure we always had love. 144 00:08:02,149 --> 00:08:06,362 So I wanna take Tyler and Theresa crabbing 145 00:08:06,445 --> 00:08:09,698 because I want them to experience what we did as a family. 146 00:08:09,782 --> 00:08:13,536 I want her to have her connection with our mother. 147 00:08:14,954 --> 00:08:18,082 -Your best grandmother you'd ever expect. -[Tyler] Yes. I know. 148 00:08:18,165 --> 00:08:19,583 I wish I would've met her. 149 00:08:20,084 --> 00:08:22,670 -[George] She's here in spirit. -[Tyler] Absolutely. 150 00:08:22,753 --> 00:08:27,925 [George] What I need you to do to start off is, to tie this net off. 151 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,802 I'm gonna get you some gloves. 152 00:08:29,885 --> 00:08:31,095 [chuckles] Right. 153 00:08:31,178 --> 00:08:33,931 What you do is you take three chicken necks on there, 154 00:08:34,014 --> 00:08:37,351 tie it like you tie in a shoe. Tie it tight 'cause crabs can take it. 155 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:39,061 Gotcha. You tie it to the string. 156 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:42,815 All you had to do is tie your nets layin' there. 157 00:08:42,898 --> 00:08:44,066 And come back for them. 158 00:08:44,149 --> 00:08:46,944 -[Theresa] My gosh. -All you had to do to catch dinner. 159 00:08:48,112 --> 00:08:49,405 -That was a little… -Perfect. 160 00:08:51,490 --> 00:08:55,327 Your grandmother used to look forward to coming here 161 00:08:55,411 --> 00:08:59,832 so much that she'd stay up all night cooking fried chicken, potato salad, 162 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:02,376 and we'd sit here all day. 163 00:09:02,459 --> 00:09:03,294 [Tyler] Wow. 164 00:09:03,377 --> 00:09:05,045 -It was a good time. -[Tyler] Wow. 165 00:09:05,129 --> 00:09:10,050 She did a lot of good things to give us a good childhood, you know. 166 00:09:10,134 --> 00:09:12,970 [Tyler] From everything that people have described my grandmother as, 167 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:15,139 fun-loving, like to have a good time. 168 00:09:15,222 --> 00:09:17,516 She valued simple things, her family, 169 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,603 what mattered most to her. She didn't need a lot to be happy. 170 00:09:20,686 --> 00:09:23,230 I feel lucky to know that I come from good people. 171 00:09:23,314 --> 00:09:26,483 Giving me a deeper appreciation for who I am. 172 00:09:28,819 --> 00:09:30,321 [George] Pull that net up if you could. 173 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:33,657 -See what they got in there. -We're gonna pull real fast. 174 00:09:34,158 --> 00:09:35,618 Did they catch any? 175 00:09:36,118 --> 00:09:38,037 -Did they catch any? -I don't know yet. 176 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,705 -Oh. -[George] Pull them. 177 00:09:39,788 --> 00:09:41,081 [Tyler] All right. Pullin'. 178 00:09:41,165 --> 00:09:43,834 -Oh, look what you got. -[Tyler] Hey, we got crabs! 179 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:45,127 [women cheering] 180 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:47,338 -This oughta make it for the day. -[Tyler] There you go. 181 00:09:47,421 --> 00:09:49,423 -This is enough. -We can eat for weeks. 182 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:54,970 [Tyler] Wow. So much goes into this. 183 00:09:55,054 --> 00:09:56,221 -This is amazing. -Yeah… 184 00:09:56,305 --> 00:09:57,806 It was such a special day, today. 185 00:09:57,890 --> 00:10:02,144 -Oh, I know. It's great. So great. -Oh my God. 186 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:04,438 [Tyler] Whoo! Here's the splash! 187 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:05,898 -Okay. -[Mary] Look at that! 188 00:10:06,482 --> 00:10:07,358 I love you so much. 189 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:09,902 I love you too. This is so great. 190 00:10:09,985 --> 00:10:13,572 -It is. Look at the breeze. -So great. I know, I know and no rain. 191 00:10:15,908 --> 00:10:19,620 But you know, one thing about your mom, our mom-- 192 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:20,663 Yep. That's right. 193 00:10:20,746 --> 00:10:23,123 She used to really work 194 00:10:23,207 --> 00:10:27,419 her bottom off to make sure we went to the parades. 195 00:10:27,503 --> 00:10:28,754 Everything we did. 196 00:10:29,797 --> 00:10:31,840 [woman] There was so much shame. 197 00:10:32,758 --> 00:10:34,343 Mama had a breakdown 198 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:38,722 after giving you to Stella. 199 00:10:39,932 --> 00:10:41,642 [somber music playing] 200 00:10:45,521 --> 00:10:46,563 [sniffles] 201 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:49,817 This I found out later. 202 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:54,405 At that time, I was too young, and they didn't tell us anything. 203 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:57,157 I bet you and Mary are having some great memories 204 00:10:57,241 --> 00:10:58,450 about what you did here. 205 00:10:58,534 --> 00:11:01,704 Wish I could've been here. We're here now. That's what matters. 206 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:09,086 [Tyler] I can tell this has been really hard for my mom. 207 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:11,004 She could have had a different life, 208 00:11:11,088 --> 00:11:14,967 and that was taken from her by this criminal. 209 00:11:19,471 --> 00:11:22,766 It's hard to focus on processing all of the information coming through 210 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:24,351 with everything going on. 211 00:11:24,435 --> 00:11:27,646 I can tell that my mom is emotional being around Mary and George. 212 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:30,733 It shows to me that it's not the right time to do a reading, 213 00:11:30,816 --> 00:11:32,443 but I hope to have that chance 214 00:11:32,526 --> 00:11:34,653 in the coming days when we have one-on-one time. 215 00:11:34,737 --> 00:11:38,282 She really, really was a special person. 216 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:40,159 -I'm sure. -You are a lot like her. 217 00:11:40,242 --> 00:11:42,953 -[Mary] Yes, she is! -[Theresa] Thank you. I'm honored. 218 00:11:43,704 --> 00:11:49,460 The hardest part about all of this is just feeling like I'm so angry 219 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:52,254 that this time was stolen from me. 220 00:11:59,136 --> 00:12:02,431 I don't know. I've just gone over it a million different ways. 221 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:05,934 It's actually kind of like torture in a way. 222 00:12:06,435 --> 00:12:09,104 When they describe their childhood, 223 00:12:09,188 --> 00:12:11,774 and when they describe how wonderful our mother was, 224 00:12:11,857 --> 00:12:13,859 and what a great mother she was, 225 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:17,237 and how fun she was, and how she would take them out of school 226 00:12:17,321 --> 00:12:20,616 so that they could go crabbing, um, and have a fun day together. 227 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:24,745 Then they would go home at the end of the day and boil the crab. 228 00:12:25,329 --> 00:12:30,501 You know, have a fun day. Um, I think, you know, I'm jealous. 229 00:12:31,084 --> 00:12:32,711 Stella did none of those things. 230 00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:36,006 She never told me she loved me, not one time in my life. 231 00:12:40,302 --> 00:12:44,014 My siblings, they weren't rich. They lived in the projects. 232 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:48,352 But the love they had for my mother, you can't put a price on that. 233 00:12:48,435 --> 00:12:50,687 They turned out to be great people. 234 00:12:50,771 --> 00:12:54,650 So it tells you that you can be poor, and as long as you're loved, 235 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:57,444 if you have love in your home, you have everything. 236 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:06,119 I remembered something that happened, and I guess I just put it away 237 00:13:06,203 --> 00:13:07,496 and forgot about it. 238 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:09,790 When I was 19 or 20, 239 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:12,167 this person contacted me and said, 240 00:13:12,251 --> 00:13:17,047 "Stella got ahold of me from prison, and she says she's not your mother." 241 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,551 "I just wanna tell you, and you can do with it what you want." 242 00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:24,137 And I didn't believe her because she's told so many lies, 243 00:13:24,221 --> 00:13:26,223 it never even occurred to me. 244 00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:29,393 But I wished… I'm so mad at myself. 245 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:30,936 I wished I had listened then, 246 00:13:31,019 --> 00:13:34,356 because I would've been able to meet my mother. It was just Stella. 247 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:36,441 She lied and lied and lied. 248 00:13:37,192 --> 00:13:40,404 So I didn't believe her. And I'm gonna take that to my grave. 249 00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:43,115 I'm gonna always be kicking myself for that one. 250 00:13:44,241 --> 00:13:45,075 [sighs] 251 00:13:51,540 --> 00:13:54,376 [Tyler] Day one in New Orleans. We don't know anything more 252 00:13:54,459 --> 00:13:57,963 about how and why my mom ended up with Stella, a murderer. 253 00:13:58,046 --> 00:14:01,592 But we learned a lot about what a loving mother my grandmother was, 254 00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:03,051 which is confusing. 255 00:14:03,135 --> 00:14:07,097 If she was so dedicated to her kids, why on earth did she give up my mom? 256 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:10,475 It just doesn't make sense. I want to figure this out for my mom, 257 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,477 because I know it's tearing her apart. 258 00:14:12,978 --> 00:14:16,148 I just hope that I can get her as close as I can to a sense of closure. 259 00:14:16,231 --> 00:14:20,152 Especially considering my life is defined by moments of wanting to give people 260 00:14:20,235 --> 00:14:22,195 a sense of closure for peace. 261 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:31,038 It's kinda weird, more convoluted today than usual. 262 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:32,748 [Heather] In what way? 263 00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:38,086 Just a lot of references to, like, lack of mental clarity. 264 00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:39,046 Hmm. 265 00:14:39,129 --> 00:14:41,798 I just feel a little… It feels like clouded. 266 00:14:47,012 --> 00:14:48,138 There it is. 267 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:49,723 [shrieks] 268 00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:51,391 [Tyler] Yay. 269 00:14:54,061 --> 00:14:57,564 -More of just weird, weird vibes. Yeah. -It's weird. 270 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:03,987 [Tyler] Venues like this sometimes make it harder to connect. 271 00:15:04,571 --> 00:15:07,449 if it's places that have been frequented by a bunch of people. 272 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:09,284 Yeah, 'cause they leave energy. 273 00:15:09,368 --> 00:15:12,663 Yeah. Everyone just kinda… Yeah, it's like a sponge. 274 00:15:12,746 --> 00:15:15,332 More like a urinal cake, in all honesty. 275 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,376 [laughing] 276 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:20,712 I'm happy you're here, and we're doing it together. 277 00:15:20,796 --> 00:15:22,923 -I know. Yay. [laughs] -Yay! [laughs] 278 00:15:23,006 --> 00:15:26,051 -Hello! How's it going? -Hi! 279 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:28,011 -Let me give you a handshake. -Can we? 280 00:15:28,095 --> 00:15:31,139 Oh my God. I'm Lauren. It's so nice to meet you. 281 00:15:31,223 --> 00:15:34,059 -Where you like to me sit? -[girl 1] Sit there. I'll bring this over. 282 00:15:34,142 --> 00:15:36,478 -[Tyler] Yeah, that works. -Yeah. 283 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:38,188 So I have my notepad here. 284 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,940 -A handy-dandy notebook. -Okay. 285 00:15:40,023 --> 00:15:43,652 Anybody that you have met, know, and sometimes even within family, 286 00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:46,071 people can come through that we've never met. 287 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:48,907 -Don't air out my dirty family laundry. -I'll try not to. 288 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:51,952 So with that said, do we have any objects for me? 289 00:15:52,035 --> 00:15:53,161 [girl 2] We have a couple. 290 00:15:53,245 --> 00:15:55,122 So we have both of these. 291 00:15:55,205 --> 00:15:57,290 [Tyler] Okay, fabulous. 292 00:15:57,374 --> 00:16:01,211 I'm gonna put those right there, if that's okay. Oh, fabulous. 293 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:05,007 -This beautiful thing. -[Tyler] Precious. That… 294 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:08,218 -[girl 1] Couple fine jewelry. -[Tyler] I love it! My goodness! 295 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:10,637 Okay. 296 00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:11,722 [pen scribbles] 297 00:16:14,558 --> 00:16:15,726 [Tyler] How weird. 298 00:16:17,227 --> 00:16:18,145 Okay. 299 00:16:19,855 --> 00:16:21,648 There. I'm gonna grab this. 300 00:16:21,732 --> 00:16:23,942 I'm gonna see if we can connect with that. 301 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:28,530 There. 302 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:38,582 -I'm looking like I'm gonna understand. -I know. I'm reading it. 303 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:41,084 [Tyler] I'll verbalize it. I'm like, "What is going on?" 304 00:16:41,752 --> 00:16:42,961 Very interesting. 305 00:16:45,714 --> 00:16:46,923 This seems different. 306 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:53,013 Okay. They're having me highlight female, not male. 307 00:16:53,096 --> 00:16:54,181 -Yeah. -[Tyler] Okay. 308 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:58,060 It's kinda weird. She brings up this, like, the only way I can describe it 309 00:16:58,143 --> 00:17:00,771 is an escalation, things escalating in some capacity. 310 00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:04,691 I'm trying to get more details 'cause it seems like an odd passing. 311 00:17:04,775 --> 00:17:07,277 I've brought through a lot of different ways people go. 312 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,196 -This seems very weird. -Yeah. 313 00:17:12,574 --> 00:17:14,284 [Tyler] There's interesting stuff. 314 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,995 This is not your traditional reading, even as a medium. 315 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,165 One thing that kinda came through that struck me on the way here. 316 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:23,043 I was feeling really kind of mentally cloudy. 317 00:17:23,126 --> 00:17:24,127 That would make sense. 318 00:17:24,211 --> 00:17:27,214 So, if someone's drunk, or if somebody's, like, feels… 319 00:17:27,297 --> 00:17:29,299 I felt dizzy, is the only way to describe it. 320 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,717 I didn't feel clear of mind. 321 00:17:30,801 --> 00:17:33,011 -Yeah. That resonates, for sure. -[girl 1] It does. 322 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:33,929 [Tyler] Okay. 323 00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:43,939 You know, I'm seeing water spurting out, um, like a fountain. I don't know. 324 00:17:44,022 --> 00:17:49,444 I wonder if there were fountains nearby in any capacity. Um, I don't know. 325 00:17:53,073 --> 00:17:54,825 [uneasy music playing] 326 00:17:57,035 --> 00:17:59,037 [Tyler] The time that this person passed, 327 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,164 there's this feeling of kind of, uh… 328 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:03,583 Huh. 329 00:18:03,667 --> 00:18:06,586 I don't… I feel kind of distanced from some people. 330 00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:11,967 There's people that she didn't know closely around her. 331 00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:15,053 I have to say this with certainty in the way this is coming across. 332 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:16,304 -In all honesty. -Okay. 333 00:18:16,388 --> 00:18:20,475 I'm certain that there was this feeling of somebody being around 334 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:21,893 that I don't know very well. 335 00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:26,022 Like, when someone… even if a young person dies of cancer, 336 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,024 people are able to be at the bedside, 337 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:30,068 -they do the send-off. -[girl 1] Expecting it. 338 00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:32,404 I don't get that, in a traditional sense. 339 00:18:32,487 --> 00:18:35,490 So this feels like, I'm kind of taken, stolen, 340 00:18:35,574 --> 00:18:37,492 like, "my life is taken from me." 341 00:18:37,576 --> 00:18:39,828 -I'm here then not-- -[girl 2] That makes a lot of sense. 342 00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:41,329 -Yeah. -The way it comes across. 343 00:18:44,499 --> 00:18:46,251 Very interesting, around the passing, 344 00:18:46,334 --> 00:18:50,422 and I don't know why this is, but there's an emphasis on a celebratory feeling. 345 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:54,176 So it's kind of a very dark dichotomy between someone dying, 346 00:18:54,259 --> 00:18:57,554 but then there's a celebration feeling, people living it up. 347 00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,222 I feel happy. I feel excited. 348 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,727 Do you know? This is so irritating. 349 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:07,606 I've been, this whole time, seeing musical references, and we're in a bar. 350 00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:09,900 Sometimes that'll do it, but there's more to it. 351 00:19:09,983 --> 00:19:10,817 Yeah. 352 00:19:10,901 --> 00:19:13,403 [Tyler] It's just the mood doesn't match the death. 353 00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:18,491 There was music playing. You know. 354 00:19:18,575 --> 00:19:20,035 -It makes sense. -It was abrupt. 355 00:19:21,036 --> 00:19:22,913 [girl 1] Music was, like, her thing. 356 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,498 [girl 2] She loved country music. 357 00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,752 She loved to get up and dance and sing along. 358 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:30,587 -[chuckles] -[girl 1] Yeah. 359 00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:37,844 This is kinda weird. There, there, there. 360 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:41,598 Do you have any "C" or "K" names connected to her? 361 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,016 Mm-hmm. 362 00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:45,518 [Tyler] Getting very strong "ch, ch, ch" sound. 363 00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:46,686 What was her name? 364 00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:48,939 -[girl 2] It was Chrissy. -Gotcha. 365 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:51,775 So who was this person for you? 366 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:56,446 It was our sorority sister. So hence the stoles and all of that. 367 00:19:56,529 --> 00:20:00,075 I didn't realize what it was. They put it on people after they graduate? 368 00:20:00,158 --> 00:20:02,994 -I didn't graduate college. I don't know. -[girl 1] Yeah. 369 00:20:03,078 --> 00:20:09,334 We were in the same business college. This was our sorority stole that you wore. 370 00:20:09,417 --> 00:20:13,296 -It's a decoration for when you graduate. -[Tyler] Okay. 371 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:16,967 [girl 1] The last photos that we took with her, we were wearing them. 372 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,635 -[girl 2] Yeah. -[Tyler] I love that. 373 00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:23,306 -She was such a cool girl. -Yeah. 374 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:25,976 Amazing friend. Fun, fun energy. 375 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:29,521 Fun, but so honest, even when you didn't want her to be. 376 00:20:30,021 --> 00:20:33,316 [girl 2] Just such a good presence to be around. 377 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,403 That's really cool. Yeah, and special. 378 00:20:36,486 --> 00:20:37,445 Um… 379 00:20:40,323 --> 00:20:42,575 Weird. There's, like, a book thing. 380 00:20:42,659 --> 00:20:43,702 Hmm… 381 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:45,495 That's an interesting symbol. 382 00:20:47,998 --> 00:20:50,959 Do you know of the significance of the first of a month? 383 00:20:51,042 --> 00:20:52,794 -Mm-hmm. -Mm-hmm. 384 00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:55,880 She is gonna be honored in some capacity, 385 00:20:55,964 --> 00:20:58,258 and I'm seeing what looks like a plaque, 386 00:20:58,341 --> 00:21:00,844 so trying to think how to word this. 387 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:04,848 Set in stone is the way to describe it. Like, I feel like it's… 388 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:07,058 There has to be… Remember that I'm saying this, 389 00:21:07,142 --> 00:21:10,061 someone has either considered planting a tree in her memory 390 00:21:10,145 --> 00:21:13,106 or is going to plant a tree, and it's a big thing. 391 00:21:13,189 --> 00:21:16,985 There's a ceremony. I'm seeing the dirt being dug, that whole thing. 392 00:21:17,068 --> 00:21:19,112 That doesn't click, from what you know? 393 00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:21,448 -It totally clicks. Sorry. -[Tyler] It does click? Okay. 394 00:21:21,531 --> 00:21:23,700 There's a feeling of pride around it. 395 00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,869 It's being honored in a greater capacity. 396 00:21:29,831 --> 00:21:32,208 I'm getting more with this. I'm getting the chills. 397 00:21:33,251 --> 00:21:36,463 'Cause I'm seeing… I have all these people just bolting. 398 00:21:38,882 --> 00:21:42,927 But I just feel like there's a lot of fear beyond what happened here. 399 00:21:44,179 --> 00:21:47,390 When it comes to trying to get medical treatment in any capacity, 400 00:21:47,474 --> 00:21:49,184 they put a big red "X" through this. 401 00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:52,729 Anytime they do that, it always indicates that there was a delay 402 00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:54,647 for the severity of the situation. 403 00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:58,610 -Related to when the police showed up. -A hundred percent. Yeah. 404 00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:00,487 [girl 1] There definitely was a delay. 405 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:03,782 [Tyler] I'm gonna keep going. 406 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,872 This is kinda hard to explain, 407 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:13,833 but the symbology that's coming through is I'm like… 408 00:22:15,794 --> 00:22:17,587 I go from up to down. 409 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,673 It just feels like I'm high and then low. 410 00:22:20,757 --> 00:22:22,008 -Physically. -[girl 2] Yeah. 411 00:22:22,092 --> 00:22:24,135 -Yeah. -That makes perfect sense. 412 00:22:24,219 --> 00:22:25,595 -[Tyler] Okay. Good. -Yeah. 413 00:22:26,721 --> 00:22:30,517 There is a big thing in the way this comes across 414 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,685 of sound ricocheting. 415 00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:36,564 And I know this is so weird, but there was an issue where sound… 416 00:22:36,648 --> 00:22:39,526 I feel like I can't figure out where this is coming from, 417 00:22:39,609 --> 00:22:41,152 is the only way to describe this. 418 00:22:41,236 --> 00:22:43,947 -Yeah. -And when this comes through… [grunts] 419 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:47,200 it's just this feeling of, I don't know where to look. 420 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,786 It's like I'm literally… Ugh. 421 00:22:51,121 --> 00:22:53,998 -There's a lot here. -Yeah. 422 00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:56,626 [Tyler] So, what happened? 423 00:22:57,377 --> 00:22:59,379 [girl 2] It was a live music event. 424 00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:01,589 And there was a mass shooting. 425 00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:06,594 -So everything you said makes sense. -[girl 1] Yeah. 426 00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:08,471 [sirens blaring] 427 00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:13,476 Hello, everyone. We continue our coverage now of the horrific shooting in Las Vegas. 428 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,937 The deadliest in American history. 429 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,856 A gunman opened fire last night, 430 00:23:17,939 --> 00:23:20,150 shortly after ten o'clock, local time, 431 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:22,485 from the 32nd floor 432 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:27,365 of the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas, raining wave after wave of automatic fire. 433 00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:30,326 [girl 2] There was a lot of people confused, running. 434 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:32,871 [man on radio] Officer, Mandalay Bay halfway up. 435 00:23:32,954 --> 00:23:35,790 I see the shots coming from Mandalay Bay, halfway up. 436 00:23:35,874 --> 00:23:39,627 -There was a lag in response time. -[girl 1] Getting-- 437 00:23:39,711 --> 00:23:43,131 [officer] Get out of here! Gun shots coming from over there. Go that way! 438 00:23:43,214 --> 00:23:44,591 Go, go. That way! That way! 439 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:50,346 [girl 2] Sixty-one people passed away, but I think 500 were injured. 440 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:53,141 There's a few memorials in different locations. 441 00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:57,437 -But a plaque is a resurrected thing. -[girl 1] It's what came to mind. 442 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,522 [reporter] People were enjoying the concert 443 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,567 and left all of these things behind as they scurried. 444 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:06,404 Right now, it's basically silent because of the tragic events that happened. 445 00:24:13,203 --> 00:24:16,164 Are there any questions you have pertaining to this person? 446 00:24:16,915 --> 00:24:18,500 -Are you okay? -[Tyler] Yeah. 447 00:24:18,583 --> 00:24:21,044 -Were you okay in the end? I don't know. -[girl 1] Yeah. 448 00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:22,587 -You know? -[Tyler] Of course. 449 00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:25,548 The way I'd describe this, when she comes through, 450 00:24:25,632 --> 00:24:26,841 this happened so fast. 451 00:24:26,925 --> 00:24:29,636 She comes through with a sense of acceptance and peace. 452 00:24:29,719 --> 00:24:32,972 But I can't emphasize enough how much joy she comes through with. 453 00:24:33,056 --> 00:24:35,767 -Just overwhelming sense of peace. -[girl 2] That's amazing. 454 00:24:35,850 --> 00:24:38,186 -But, you know, it doesn't-- -[girl 1] That's comforting. 455 00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:40,688 I also understand it doesn't erase what happened. 456 00:24:40,772 --> 00:24:43,775 -Yeah. -[Tyler] So thank you for sharing that. 457 00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:46,444 I know it's a hard thing to have to talk about. 458 00:24:46,528 --> 00:24:49,781 It makes sense now, in context, why it was so kind of weird for me 459 00:24:49,864 --> 00:24:52,075 'cause it's not your traditional situation. 460 00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:55,578 But I hope that this also helps bring an awareness to gun violence. 461 00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:57,247 -[girl 1] I hope so. -You know, because… 462 00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:01,709 I can't tell you enough. They never want their death to define their life. 463 00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:04,295 Within how she passed, there's gonna be opportunities 464 00:25:04,379 --> 00:25:06,130 to bring awareness to bigger things. 465 00:25:06,214 --> 00:25:08,132 It's gonna help a lot of people. 466 00:25:08,216 --> 00:25:09,968 -Thank you so much. -[Tyler] Of course. 467 00:25:10,051 --> 00:25:14,222 Before you go, can you tell us next week's, like, lotto numbers? 468 00:25:14,305 --> 00:25:16,641 -They're on the back of this book. -[girl 1] They are? 469 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:19,269 -Leave it here. Don't say it out loud. -If I showed you… 470 00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:21,396 -I'd have to bring you through. -[girl 1] That's fine. 471 00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,897 [Tyler] Yeah, exactly. 472 00:25:22,981 --> 00:25:25,191 -If you need a drink, there's options. -[girl 1] We might. 473 00:25:25,275 --> 00:25:28,194 -Stay safe. Bye! -Have an amazing rest of your day. Bye! 474 00:25:28,903 --> 00:25:32,699 [girl 2] I think it was nice to get that confirmation 475 00:25:33,199 --> 00:25:35,535 that, yeah, she is still beaming. 476 00:25:35,618 --> 00:25:37,036 She's still dancing around. 477 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,914 -That's really what I wanted to hear. -Yeah. 478 00:25:41,499 --> 00:25:43,126 [Tyler] It was a sorority sister 479 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:45,670 who died in the Las Vegas shooting. 480 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:46,713 [Heather sighs] 481 00:25:46,796 --> 00:25:49,966 On the way here, I was getting this feeling of inebriation. 482 00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:52,677 -People were drinking heavily. -[Heather] 'Cause you were saying… 483 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,305 Oh, yeah. You were saying, "Not clear in the head." 484 00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:56,889 -And you weren't sure. -Yeah. 485 00:25:56,973 --> 00:26:00,226 When I sat there, I could tell she had been drinking. 486 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:04,314 [Heather] So she was giving you what it was like… 487 00:26:04,856 --> 00:26:08,109 -Being there. -[Heather] …being there, at the moment. 488 00:26:09,819 --> 00:26:10,653 Wow. 489 00:26:26,586 --> 00:26:28,504 I am fascinated by the idea 490 00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:32,175 of any way that I can expedite what I do on a daily basis. 491 00:26:33,676 --> 00:26:35,261 In my job, I scribble. 492 00:26:36,346 --> 00:26:37,639 It's how I connect. 493 00:26:37,722 --> 00:26:40,600 If I can have a place I can go into before I do a reading, 494 00:26:40,683 --> 00:26:43,186 that might help me get more clear impressions, 495 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:44,520 of course I'm gonna try it. 496 00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:46,314 [upbeat music playing] 497 00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,944 [Tyler] So I built the psychomanteum with my dad. 498 00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:55,448 Yeah. Let's see what we got here. 499 00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:57,659 It's coming together. 500 00:26:58,159 --> 00:26:59,327 [producer] How does that feel? 501 00:26:59,410 --> 00:27:03,122 Oh, just so masculine. All the testosterone. 502 00:27:04,582 --> 00:27:07,585 Psychomanteum is based off of an ancient process 503 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:10,213 of communicating with higher forces, 504 00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:14,967 dating back to the Greek days, Ancient Greece, necropolises. 505 00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:17,428 Places where people would go, grieving people, 506 00:27:17,512 --> 00:27:19,889 to connect with their loved ones who passed. 507 00:27:22,225 --> 00:27:24,519 The idea is that you would go into a space. 508 00:27:24,602 --> 00:27:27,689 Back then, it was typically subterranean, under the ground, in caves, 509 00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:30,274 and would be enshrouded in darkness. 510 00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,568 This would allow them to have experiences 511 00:27:32,652 --> 00:27:35,905 where they would see things or feel things they wouldn't normally. 512 00:27:36,739 --> 00:27:39,992 The psychomanteum emulates that in a more modern way. 513 00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:51,421 The process involves going into the room and spending 45 minutes to an hour 514 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:52,797 gazing into a mirror, 515 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,884 a mirror situated in a way that it doesn't reflect your reflection back at you. 516 00:27:57,885 --> 00:28:00,096 Most people report seeing impressions. 517 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,640 Sometimes they're colors. Sometimes they're symbols. 518 00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:05,059 More interestingly, sometimes people will see faces 519 00:28:05,143 --> 00:28:08,813 and full-on apparitions of people that they once knew, 520 00:28:08,896 --> 00:28:10,815 and sometimes people they didn't. 521 00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:14,277 So my job as a medium feels like it's a natural segue 522 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,196 into going to the space and trying to see what I can get. 523 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,867 And if it'll differ from what an everyday person might receive. 524 00:28:30,001 --> 00:28:31,627 [eerie music playing] 525 00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:43,055 [Tyler] For the first ten, fifteen minutes or so, 526 00:28:44,098 --> 00:28:47,643 it didn't really feel much, internally or externally. 527 00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:48,853 I didn't see anything. 528 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:53,065 And then, as it progressed, it actually got a little overwhelming. 529 00:28:54,317 --> 00:28:56,068 I felt something touch my shoulder. 530 00:28:56,736 --> 00:28:59,572 I saw in the mirror, like, a hand. 531 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:05,077 I got a reference to a lady with a mole on her upper, like, lip area. 532 00:29:06,162 --> 00:29:07,038 Weird. 533 00:29:12,543 --> 00:29:17,089 There was a reference to, like, Greece, that I was seeing it in, like, 534 00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:20,092 the word "Greece" in white letters. 535 00:29:22,053 --> 00:29:24,639 Felt the presence of a grandfather figure, 536 00:29:24,722 --> 00:29:27,767 saw a man with brown hair that was, like, longer. 537 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:28,851 [producer] Young or old? 538 00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:30,812 Um, young. Younger man. 539 00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:32,605 Living, not dead. 540 00:29:32,688 --> 00:29:34,941 That was weird. I was expecting to see dead people. 541 00:29:35,024 --> 00:29:36,943 I was having visions of living people. 542 00:29:40,488 --> 00:29:44,200 When I do a reading, I will touch on people who are both living and passed. 543 00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:46,661 And as a medium, I talk to people who've passed. 544 00:29:47,245 --> 00:29:49,622 But oftentimes, their messages involve the living. 545 00:29:49,705 --> 00:29:50,873 People who are here. 546 00:29:50,957 --> 00:29:53,334 Through communicating with the other side, 547 00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:56,212 I can often get information about people who are still here. 548 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:58,089 Their well-being, what they're up to, 549 00:29:58,172 --> 00:30:01,175 what they've done, issues they're dealing with. 550 00:30:01,259 --> 00:30:02,969 Those messages are meaningful too. 551 00:30:03,052 --> 00:30:05,263 Doesn't always have to come from the other side. 552 00:30:05,346 --> 00:30:09,183 It was an experience, the closest thing to drugs I will ever do, [laughs] 553 00:30:09,267 --> 00:30:13,312 …in all honesty. 'Cause, you know, I'm pretty vanilla. 554 00:30:13,396 --> 00:30:17,608 My biggest takeaway from the psychomanteum is that it can induce visions internally. 555 00:30:17,692 --> 00:30:19,277 That was not what I was expecting. 556 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,322 I was expecting anything significant I saw to be in the mirror in front of me, 557 00:30:23,406 --> 00:30:27,368 but it seems to act as a conduit to get a person in that state of mind 558 00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:29,161 where they're more receptive. 559 00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:36,252 [vibrant music playing] 560 00:30:40,631 --> 00:30:44,260 -[Tyler] Hello! -[man] Hello! Good to see you! Yes. 561 00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,595 It's Tyler. How are you? 562 00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:47,597 -Nice to meet you. -Lovely to meet you. 563 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,391 -[man] Good. -Thank you for having me. It's beautiful. 564 00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:52,602 -[woman] Thank you for inviting us. -[Tyler] Absolutely. 565 00:30:52,685 --> 00:30:55,104 -Thank God it's not a dream anymore. -I know 566 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:58,316 That I'm having a reading with you because I saw you in my dreams. 567 00:30:58,399 --> 00:30:59,817 Amazing! It was a premonition. 568 00:30:59,901 --> 00:31:01,402 -It was meant to be. -[man] Yeah. 569 00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:06,824 So I have something to tell you. Last night, I was testing out this room 570 00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,784 that I have where I meditate and connect. 571 00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:12,288 -Okay. -I had no idea I was meeting with you. 572 00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:15,291 But I saw a reference to a Greek man, 573 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:18,210 and I was seeing long, luxurious brown hair. 574 00:31:18,294 --> 00:31:19,420 -Are you serious? -Yes. 575 00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:21,672 Clearly, this was divinely meant to happen. 576 00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:24,175 It gives me the chills to even talk about. 577 00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:25,134 I'm very excited. 578 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:28,971 I already have a lot coming in. I'm gonna try to get through that. 579 00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:31,807 My question is do you have anyone in common, 580 00:31:31,891 --> 00:31:33,184 or are you separate? 581 00:31:33,267 --> 00:31:36,354 -I know them, but they're separate. -Okay. 582 00:31:36,437 --> 00:31:37,980 They don't know each other. 583 00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:41,108 The producer says you can bring only one person, 584 00:31:41,192 --> 00:31:42,610 and I said, "I can't choose." 585 00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:45,571 "I can't do that to my friend because I already told her." 586 00:31:45,655 --> 00:31:48,658 "It's no way that I can take care of and bring someone else." 587 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:51,410 "It's very important," I said. 588 00:31:51,494 --> 00:31:53,621 The next day, the producer called, saying, 589 00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:56,415 "Okay, you can bring second guest with you." 590 00:31:56,499 --> 00:31:59,585 Okay, that helps. I'm gonna separate in the way this comes across. 591 00:31:59,669 --> 00:32:00,920 -Did we bring objects? -Yes. 592 00:32:01,003 --> 00:32:03,005 [Tyler] Cool. We can put them all out on the table. 593 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,716 Perfect. Let me put that there. 594 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,469 What I'll do is I'll hold this first, if you don't mind. 595 00:32:08,552 --> 00:32:09,387 [man] This one? Okay. 596 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:11,764 -[Tyler] And we'll see what comes out. -[man] Okay. 597 00:32:13,557 --> 00:32:16,394 Okay. [sighs] Okay. 598 00:32:21,482 --> 00:32:23,025 Do you have a connection to March? 599 00:32:23,526 --> 00:32:25,528 -Any birthdays? -My birthday on March. 600 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:28,614 -[laughs] Okay, cool. Random. All right. -Yeah. 601 00:32:28,698 --> 00:32:29,740 Um… 602 00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:33,202 I see. 603 00:32:34,203 --> 00:32:35,204 Huh. 604 00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:37,790 I wonder, do you know of any Christos? 605 00:32:38,332 --> 00:32:39,959 -Christos? Yes. -[Tyler] Who would that be? 606 00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:41,043 It's my father. 607 00:32:41,836 --> 00:32:43,796 -[Tyler] Your father? -[man] My God. It's so weird. 608 00:32:43,879 --> 00:32:46,716 -Yeah. I know, it's spooky. -[man] It's so weird, that conversation. 609 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,803 So interesting. Okay, so I'm gonna keep going here. Okay. 610 00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:58,019 Okay. I have this mother figure that comes in 611 00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:00,104 that isn't for you, but for one of you two. 612 00:33:00,688 --> 00:33:02,815 Somebody who basically would have been, like, 613 00:33:02,898 --> 00:33:05,359 the biggest mom figure in the world, It's how I can describe it. 614 00:33:05,443 --> 00:33:08,696 I don't know why it comes in so strongly, but I have to highlight that. 615 00:33:08,779 --> 00:33:10,197 That. Okay. 616 00:33:13,534 --> 00:33:16,662 Do either of you have any connections familially to New York at all? 617 00:33:16,746 --> 00:33:18,039 -You said New York? -[Tyler] Yes. 618 00:33:18,122 --> 00:33:19,290 Not New York City. 619 00:33:19,373 --> 00:33:21,500 -[Tyler] Correct. The state of New York. -Okay. 620 00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:23,669 [Tyler] It's really interesting when it comes across. 621 00:33:23,753 --> 00:33:26,505 She references a number of females that are connected to her. 622 00:33:26,589 --> 00:33:29,884 When that happens, it'll refer to if somebody has a number of daughters, 623 00:33:29,967 --> 00:33:32,511 if there's the two or three girls in the family, 624 00:33:32,595 --> 00:33:35,056 basically a lot of… gives me a lot of estrogen. 625 00:33:35,139 --> 00:33:36,932 -Right. -[Tyler] Strong female characters. 626 00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:39,393 -Do you know if she had any children? -Yes. 627 00:33:39,477 --> 00:33:41,437 -[Tyler] Do you know if she had girls? -Yes. 628 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,775 All good. Would have been at least… I keep going, like, two to three. 629 00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:47,276 -How many? Two? -[woman] Yes. 630 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,155 -She has one that she gave birth to. -[Tyler] Gotcha. 631 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:53,157 And she adopted one. 632 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,700 [Tyler] I love that. Okay, gotcha. 633 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:56,577 Huh. Weird. 634 00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,665 She gives me this impression of being okay with her duration of life. 635 00:34:01,749 --> 00:34:03,793 The thing that happened is interesting. 636 00:34:03,876 --> 00:34:07,338 Some people were geographically distanced at the time of her death. 637 00:34:07,421 --> 00:34:09,715 -They just received word that she passed. -[man] What? 638 00:34:09,799 --> 00:34:10,966 -Oh my God. -It's weird. 639 00:34:11,050 --> 00:34:12,885 She's like, "It's fine. Not a big deal." 640 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:15,387 I get a very much matter-of-fact feeling 641 00:34:15,471 --> 00:34:18,015 of, "It's okay. I don't need people to be there." 642 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:21,560 -That is true. That is absolutely true. -[Tyler] So that's something that-- 643 00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:24,230 Let me see what this is 644 00:34:24,313 --> 00:34:28,442 'cause she's bringing up a situation where she passes, 645 00:34:28,526 --> 00:34:31,070 but then somebody is not able to be there. 646 00:34:31,153 --> 00:34:34,448 So where were you and where was she at the time of her passing? 647 00:34:34,532 --> 00:34:37,034 -In Neuilly, France. -[Tyler] So you were together? 648 00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:38,160 -Together. -[Tyler] Gotcha. 649 00:34:38,244 --> 00:34:42,164 When we talk about her kids, the two girls, was anybody not there? 650 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:43,332 Did they not make it? 651 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,668 -None of her kids were there. -[Tyler] Okay. 652 00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:48,379 -But at her request. -[Tyler] Yes, yes, yes. 653 00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:50,131 Okay. There's that. 654 00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:51,841 That's weird. 655 00:34:53,926 --> 00:34:54,760 Hmm. 656 00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:57,763 So this is going to sound weird, 657 00:34:57,847 --> 00:34:59,849 but there's some connection… 658 00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:01,517 I keep getting 659 00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:03,769 kind of a famous feeling. 660 00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:05,521 Any time I get a famous feeling, 661 00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:09,775 it indicates that somebody's either renowned or connected to celebrities, 662 00:35:09,859 --> 00:35:12,653 or connected to an iconic historical figure 663 00:35:12,736 --> 00:35:15,072 or… you kinda get the gist with it. 664 00:35:15,156 --> 00:35:16,282 You're right on. 665 00:35:16,365 --> 00:35:18,701 -Talking about kind of the big life. -[woman] Yes. 666 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:22,538 In the way it comes across. Feels regal, is the way I'd describe it. 667 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:23,497 That's a good word. 668 00:35:23,581 --> 00:35:28,043 [Tyler] I was just gonna say, somebody is either related… 669 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:31,172 I think she either met royalty, knew royalty, 670 00:35:31,255 --> 00:35:33,007 something about that crosses paths. 671 00:35:33,090 --> 00:35:36,343 When we think of celebrities on TV, I'm not getting that feeling. 672 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:39,138 I'm talking about dignitaries. People of status. 673 00:35:39,221 --> 00:35:41,807 And that comes through. There's an interesting reference, 674 00:35:41,891 --> 00:35:44,393 and this may not click. I think there's a Ruth. 675 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,145 -You know the name Ruth? -Oh yes. 676 00:35:46,228 --> 00:35:47,855 -[Tyler] Do you know who Ruth is? -Yes. 677 00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:49,607 -[man] Are you kidding me? -[laughs] 678 00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:52,776 Yeah, so, I have to highlight Ruth, in the way this comes across. 679 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:53,986 Really interesting lady. 680 00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:56,864 Clearly comes across like a force of nature. [laughs] 681 00:35:56,947 --> 00:35:59,867 -I want you to know that. -She's been called that before. 682 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:03,037 -[Tyler] I believe it. Yes. -She's been known for that. 683 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,039 So I'm curious to know who Mom is. 684 00:36:05,122 --> 00:36:09,668 Okay. So she was like my mother, my grandmother, my best friend, 685 00:36:09,752 --> 00:36:11,545 and I learned so much. 686 00:36:11,629 --> 00:36:13,756 -Now, you're very young. -Yes. 687 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,049 So you might not know. 688 00:36:15,132 --> 00:36:19,470 -But that's… this is who she is. -What? 689 00:36:19,553 --> 00:36:20,638 -Yes. -What? 690 00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:24,433 Are you kidding me? Oh! Whoa! 691 00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:26,227 [vibrant music playing]