1 00:00:14,348 --> 00:00:16,100 [somber music playing] 2 00:00:35,995 --> 00:00:38,289 Hey, does some pasta sound good? 3 00:00:38,372 --> 00:00:39,957 -Yeah. You know me. -[Theresa] Okay. 4 00:00:40,041 --> 00:00:41,959 -Cool. -[Tyler] Do I ever ask for anything else? 5 00:00:42,043 --> 00:00:45,463 I know, you're so boring. Do you want cheddar cheese over it? 6 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:47,298 That's the last thing I wrote on this. 7 00:00:47,381 --> 00:00:49,550 -It's funny that… Are you clairvoyant? -Stop it. 8 00:00:49,634 --> 00:00:52,011 -You didn't write that. -Look, "cheddar cheese." 9 00:00:52,512 --> 00:00:56,099 -How weird is that? Oh, my gosh. -[Tyler] Cheddar. An enigma. All right. 10 00:00:56,182 --> 00:00:58,351 -Um… [chuckles] -[Theresa] You're too funny. 11 00:00:59,435 --> 00:01:03,189 Do you know that I was supposed to go to Stella's birthday party, 12 00:01:03,272 --> 00:01:06,359 and I totally… I was invited, but I would never do that. 13 00:01:06,442 --> 00:01:08,319 -[Tyler] Did you get invited? -I'd never go. 14 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:09,237 This year? 15 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:12,532 -Yeah, she turned 94 or 95 or something. -[Tyler] Wow. 16 00:01:12,615 --> 00:01:16,494 But you know, everyone was being polite and invited me, and um… 17 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:18,871 -It's never gonna happen. -[Tyler] Yeah, I'll say. 18 00:01:18,955 --> 00:01:22,542 Yeah. You know, there's just so much going on with her, 19 00:01:22,625 --> 00:01:24,585 and I don't want anything to do with her. 20 00:01:24,669 --> 00:01:27,255 [somber music playing] 21 00:01:27,338 --> 00:01:30,842 I thought my entire life, up until two years ago, 22 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:32,260 that Stella was my mother. 23 00:01:32,343 --> 00:01:35,471 This murderer, and, you know, this is gonna sound terrible. 24 00:01:35,555 --> 00:01:38,307 She's not just a bad person because she was a murderer. 25 00:01:38,391 --> 00:01:40,309 There were other things that she did. 26 00:01:40,393 --> 00:01:43,479 You know, Tyler, I still have not confronted Stella 27 00:01:43,563 --> 00:01:45,398 about how she got me. 28 00:01:46,899 --> 00:01:49,485 She just told me one lie after another. 29 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:52,989 All of my life, I thought she was my mother, 30 00:01:53,072 --> 00:01:55,908 and I don't know how she was able to pull that off. 31 00:01:55,992 --> 00:01:58,661 And how she got me from my biological mother. 32 00:01:58,744 --> 00:02:03,749 What lie did she tell to make my mother hand me over? 33 00:02:03,833 --> 00:02:08,588 Because my mother would've never given me to someone as evil and horrible as her. 34 00:02:09,172 --> 00:02:12,884 [Tyler] As a kid, I was told my mom's mom had spent time in prison. 35 00:02:12,967 --> 00:02:15,761 This was no secret, considering she served 30 years, 36 00:02:15,845 --> 00:02:18,389 and for a good portion of my childhood was in the pen. 37 00:02:19,974 --> 00:02:21,934 People from prison would write to me. 38 00:02:22,018 --> 00:02:24,562 They would say, "Oh, in the Bible, it says you're supposed to 39 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:27,982 honor your mother and father. It's wrong that you're not visiting her, 40 00:02:28,065 --> 00:02:29,901 and you won't speak to her." 41 00:02:29,984 --> 00:02:33,112 This isn't who you stay in touch with or hold any weight in their word. 42 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:35,364 Yeah. Let's… Let's have Christmas together. 43 00:02:35,448 --> 00:02:37,950 -Yeah, well… -Yeah, I know. It's just nuts. 44 00:02:38,034 --> 00:02:40,119 She definitely used the Bible to her advantage, 45 00:02:40,203 --> 00:02:44,832 and being able to both quote it and impose that idea on her children. 46 00:02:44,916 --> 00:02:47,335 And manipulate people in every way. 47 00:02:47,418 --> 00:02:49,503 -She would always join churches. -Yeah. 48 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:52,256 And that's where she'd find the vulnerable people 49 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:53,758 who she could work them. 50 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:56,219 "Oh, we need money. We need this. We need that." 51 00:02:56,302 --> 00:02:58,304 They would come help. She'd take me to their door. 52 00:02:58,387 --> 00:02:59,639 -Yeah. -'Cause I was little. 53 00:02:59,722 --> 00:03:03,935 So she would take me to their door, and she knew what she was doing. 54 00:03:04,018 --> 00:03:07,605 Stella's a murderer. A con artist. A liar. 55 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:10,775 I just can't… I don't know where that ends. 56 00:03:11,442 --> 00:03:15,863 I mean, it just goes on and on and on. She's everything bad a person can be. 57 00:03:15,947 --> 00:03:17,698 And, here's the crazy thing. 58 00:03:17,782 --> 00:03:20,284 She's 94 years old, and she's still alive. 59 00:03:21,327 --> 00:03:22,745 You know, Tyler. 60 00:03:22,828 --> 00:03:28,125 -I'm maybe never gonna know what happened. -Yeah. 61 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:31,045 We're not talking about a woman who made a mistake or two. 62 00:03:31,128 --> 00:03:32,964 We're talking about Stella, 63 00:03:33,047 --> 00:03:35,383 who has a lifetime… 64 00:03:35,466 --> 00:03:38,928 [voice breaking] …a lifetime of ruining people's lives. 65 00:03:39,804 --> 00:03:42,181 [Tyler] I think my mom became not just a victim, 66 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:43,432 but a survivor. 67 00:03:43,516 --> 00:03:47,311 But more than that, she deserves to have the answers to what happened. 68 00:03:47,395 --> 00:03:50,106 Why her mom was not able to hold on to her. 69 00:03:50,189 --> 00:03:53,943 And why this other person took her and never gave her back. 70 00:03:54,610 --> 00:03:58,197 You'd think as a medium, I should be able to call everybody on the other side 71 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:00,658 and figure out how Stella obtained her, 72 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:02,243 but it doesn't work that way. 73 00:04:02,326 --> 00:04:05,913 In a sense, I'm just like everybody else in my pursuit for answers. 74 00:04:07,498 --> 00:04:08,916 [Theresa] Yeah, Tyler, I don't know. 75 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:13,087 I don't know where it ends with her. And I guess the day she dies. 76 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:17,300 I'm just gonna be left to just deal with this for all my life. 77 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:24,807 She could have had a different life. That was taken from her by this criminal. 78 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:28,311 In a greater way, I want her to be able to get as close as she can 79 00:04:28,394 --> 00:04:29,520 to a sense of closure. 80 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:33,733 I wanna learn more about what happened to my mom's family. 81 00:04:33,816 --> 00:04:37,028 I wanna get answers into some of the missing details. 82 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:39,697 Together, I think there's a lot of healing that can be had 83 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,366 if we both are willing to look at things for what they are 84 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:44,827 without shame and revisit them. 85 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:52,168 [vibrant music playing] 86 00:05:05,556 --> 00:05:06,974 [Theresa] It's a bumpy ride. 87 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,852 -Holy shit. This is-- -Oh my goodness sakes! 88 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:13,064 -Holy cow! Did you see that? -Holy fucking Christ! 89 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,149 -That's a drop. [chuckles] -Wow. 90 00:05:15,232 --> 00:05:18,069 I should be driving at this point. I mean, really. 91 00:05:18,694 --> 00:05:19,904 [Theresa chuckles] 92 00:05:20,696 --> 00:05:23,115 I don't really need to tell you how to drive 93 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:24,909 because I know when that day comes, 94 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:27,495 when you get your license, you'll be a great driver. 95 00:05:28,329 --> 00:05:30,956 Don't you feel like you're driving some of the time? 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,210 But you can't navigate 'cause you can't see two feet in front of you. 97 00:05:34,293 --> 00:05:36,003 [upbeat music playing] 98 00:05:39,632 --> 00:05:42,176 [Tyler] I suspect I'm reading a number of people today. 99 00:05:42,259 --> 00:05:45,304 -I have different groups coming through. -[Theresa] Really? 100 00:05:45,388 --> 00:05:47,848 [Tyler] So I have a grandmother coming through, 101 00:05:48,349 --> 00:05:50,893 that I feel lived a completely full life. 102 00:05:52,269 --> 00:05:54,438 And, in fact, kind of timed her passing. 103 00:05:55,815 --> 00:05:59,610 So she kind of went… when she was ready to go. 104 00:06:00,236 --> 00:06:01,487 [Theresa] Interesting. 105 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:04,907 So we'll see if that pans out today. 106 00:06:09,954 --> 00:06:11,914 [woman 1] I have a surprise for you, guys. 107 00:06:11,997 --> 00:06:13,958 So I have my one student 108 00:06:14,041 --> 00:06:16,168 that I taught a long time ago, 109 00:06:16,252 --> 00:06:18,629 and he just made a huge impact on my life, 110 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,965 and I made a huge impact on his life, 111 00:06:21,048 --> 00:06:23,801 and just it's really cool. I want you guys to meet him. 112 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:26,220 -[woman 2] He's coming all the way here? -Yeah. 113 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:30,141 All my friends think that, um, we are going to 114 00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:33,477 film a show about what it's like as a teacher, 115 00:06:33,561 --> 00:06:35,980 and I didn't tell anybody anything. 116 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:39,525 -He was your student in San Diego? -No. In Hanford. We lived in Hanford. 117 00:06:39,608 --> 00:06:41,861 Hanford. Back in the day. 118 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:45,781 [Theresa] Okay. 119 00:06:46,991 --> 00:06:48,826 -This is bougie. -[Theresa] Yeah. 120 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:50,786 This is like, I feel very… 121 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:52,913 -[Theresa] Bougie? -No, I feel affluent. 122 00:06:52,997 --> 00:06:54,665 -[Theresa] Okay. -[Tyler] Okay. 123 00:06:55,458 --> 00:06:57,918 -[Theresa] Good luck on your reading. -[Tyler] Thanks. 124 00:07:02,923 --> 00:07:05,509 [woman 2] Does anybody want anything to drink? Like iced tea or-- 125 00:07:05,593 --> 00:07:06,969 -[woman 1] I'd love some. -Yeah? 126 00:07:07,052 --> 00:07:08,304 -That'd be great. -Thanks. 127 00:07:08,387 --> 00:07:10,973 -Corey's all nice. -I love it. 128 00:07:11,056 --> 00:07:13,267 -Opportunity to munch. -I know, right? 129 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:15,603 [Tyler] Hello! [chuckles] 130 00:07:15,686 --> 00:07:19,732 -Oh my God! You're the student? -[Tyler] Oh! How's it going? 131 00:07:19,815 --> 00:07:22,443 She was just telling us about a student of hers. 132 00:07:22,526 --> 00:07:25,696 -Oh, wow! Oh my goodness! -Trish, your student is here! 133 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:29,116 -Hi! Oh, my God! -[Tyler] How weird! How funny. 134 00:07:29,909 --> 00:07:31,285 -What? -[chuckles] 135 00:07:31,368 --> 00:07:33,204 -[Tyler] Oh my goodness! -[Trish] Hi! 136 00:07:33,287 --> 00:07:34,914 -Do you know him? -No. 137 00:07:34,997 --> 00:07:37,416 [woman 3] He's the Hollywood Medium. That's Tyler Henry. 138 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:39,793 -I had no clue! -[chuckles] 139 00:07:39,877 --> 00:07:43,339 Whoa! Oh! It's so good to see you. 140 00:07:43,422 --> 00:07:46,050 I've been wanting to meet with you for a year now. 141 00:07:46,133 --> 00:07:47,551 [Trish] I know. It was like, "Oh!" 142 00:07:47,635 --> 00:07:49,762 -Now it's happening. Oh my God! -It's happening. 143 00:07:49,845 --> 00:07:52,598 -Well, he definitely surprised me. -Oh my God. 144 00:07:52,681 --> 00:07:54,725 -[Tyler] Yes! Let's go. What a view. -[Trish] So… 145 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:56,060 -Hi! -[woman 3] Hi! 146 00:07:56,143 --> 00:07:58,562 -How are you? -Good. How are you guys? Oh! 147 00:07:58,646 --> 00:08:00,856 -What a trip. -We're just eating. 148 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:02,483 No worries. Lovely to meet you both. 149 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,361 -Thank you! -Hey, look at you, Core. 150 00:08:05,444 --> 00:08:09,114 -I am the clumsy hostess. -Hostess with the mostest. [chuckles] 151 00:08:09,198 --> 00:08:10,866 [Tyler] Well, this is so surreal. 152 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:14,495 -[Trish] Yes. Hi, honey. -How funny. Hello! Is everyone doing good? 153 00:08:14,578 --> 00:08:15,454 Yeah! 154 00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:17,957 -[Tyler] Good! I'm happy to be here. -Surprise! 155 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,918 You managed to surprise a psychic, so good job. 156 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:22,545 [all laughing] 157 00:08:23,212 --> 00:08:24,338 [Trish] Okay. So. 158 00:08:24,421 --> 00:08:27,591 You know, I haven't seen you in a while, and so I just thought… 159 00:08:28,092 --> 00:08:31,512 These are important people in my life. You're a very important person in my life. 160 00:08:31,595 --> 00:08:33,180 I thought, "Bring them together." 161 00:08:33,264 --> 00:08:35,266 I wanted to see if you'd surprise them-- 162 00:08:35,349 --> 00:08:37,268 Yes. I'm surprised. We're all surprised. 163 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:40,271 If you did a reading, like, on them, that would be-- 164 00:08:40,354 --> 00:08:41,355 Absolutely. 165 00:08:41,438 --> 00:08:43,566 -[Corey] We have talked about this-- -She's asked. 166 00:08:43,649 --> 00:08:46,110 We are huge fans. We have talked about this for years. 167 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:48,112 Yeah. And I thought, "One day. One day." 168 00:08:48,195 --> 00:08:51,282 -I thought, "Let's do it now. Go for it." -[Tyler] Absolutely. 169 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:54,076 We're making it happen. I'm excited. 170 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,203 I never thought I would get this experience. 171 00:08:56,287 --> 00:08:57,538 -[Corey] I know. -For real. 172 00:08:57,621 --> 00:08:59,665 Have you ever had a reading before? 173 00:08:59,748 --> 00:09:01,000 -Anything like that? -No. 174 00:09:01,083 --> 00:09:02,084 [Tyler] Okay, cool. 175 00:09:02,167 --> 00:09:04,545 -Have you ever gotten one? Okay. -A little bit. 176 00:09:05,045 --> 00:09:08,591 So, the way that I found out about his ability 177 00:09:08,674 --> 00:09:10,467 was in my math class. 178 00:09:11,844 --> 00:09:14,013 Tyler's sitting at the back in a chair. 179 00:09:14,096 --> 00:09:17,808 He's really just quiet, and I'm just like, "Okay. Figure him out." 180 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:20,728 You know that one kid, you're like, "I'll get it figured out." 181 00:09:20,811 --> 00:09:25,149 And then my mother-in-law was… got very sick. 182 00:09:25,232 --> 00:09:26,900 And she was in the hospital. 183 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:29,153 Then my daughter called me and said, 184 00:09:29,236 --> 00:09:32,156 "Mom, you need to send Joshua and Della down." 185 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:35,451 So I sent the kids that night. 186 00:09:35,534 --> 00:09:38,912 So they drove down, and so they're all at the hospital. 187 00:09:38,996 --> 00:09:42,958 And so she passed, and Kiki called me that morning and she's like, "She's gone." 188 00:09:43,042 --> 00:09:47,463 She goes, "It was crazy 'cause watching her, she didn't look good." 189 00:09:47,546 --> 00:09:51,133 And then after she passed, she said, "It looked like she could get up and run." 190 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:53,218 Like, she just looked different. 191 00:09:53,302 --> 00:09:56,972 So, then I was like, "I'm going to work." I went to work, and I walk in the class. 192 00:09:57,056 --> 00:10:00,809 And I'm trying to teach, and finally the bell rings. 193 00:10:00,893 --> 00:10:04,104 And all the kids are leaving, and Tyler is still sitting at his desk. 194 00:10:04,188 --> 00:10:08,484 Just sitting at his desk. He goes, "Miss Camp, can I talk to you?" 195 00:10:08,567 --> 00:10:12,696 And I was like, "Yeah, sure. What do you need to talk to me about?" 196 00:10:13,197 --> 00:10:15,824 He goes, "I don't know how you're going to take this, 197 00:10:16,325 --> 00:10:19,745 but I have a message for you." I was like… [scoffs] 198 00:10:19,828 --> 00:10:21,372 And I said, "Yes?" 199 00:10:21,455 --> 00:10:24,750 And he said, "Well, Lorraine wanted me to tell you 200 00:10:25,626 --> 00:10:27,002 that it's okay to cry." 201 00:10:27,086 --> 00:10:29,922 And I looked at him, and I just lost it. 202 00:10:30,005 --> 00:10:33,467 Started crying. And he goes, "She wants you to know it's okay to cry." 203 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:38,347 "And that she wants to thank you for sending the kids to her house." 204 00:10:38,430 --> 00:10:39,264 Wow. 205 00:10:39,807 --> 00:10:43,060 "Because she feels much better, and she feels like she could run." 206 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:46,105 -And I looked at him, and I was like… -[chuckling] Oh, wow. 207 00:10:46,188 --> 00:10:47,314 And I just… 208 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:50,317 had a moment. 209 00:10:50,401 --> 00:10:51,777 [woman 3] Ah! 210 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:54,571 That was huge. It's what I needed to hear that day. 211 00:10:54,655 --> 00:10:56,990 You're like, "I saw your aura was different." 212 00:10:57,074 --> 00:11:00,119 And I was like, "Wow! What is happening?" 213 00:11:00,202 --> 00:11:01,829 [Tyler] Like, "What's going on?" 214 00:11:01,912 --> 00:11:04,039 The reason why I believed him immediately 215 00:11:04,123 --> 00:11:06,500 is because no one calls her "Lorraine." 216 00:11:06,583 --> 00:11:08,210 -[Corey] Mm. -[Trish] No one. 217 00:11:08,293 --> 00:11:09,962 -Everybody calls her "Nan." -Yeah. 218 00:11:10,045 --> 00:11:11,839 -[Trish] Or they call her "Della." -Yeah. 219 00:11:11,922 --> 00:11:16,885 [Trish] When Tyler was a teenager, he was very quiet, very to himself. 220 00:11:16,969 --> 00:11:20,389 He'd always check on me every single day. "How are you doing? What's going on?" 221 00:11:20,472 --> 00:11:23,976 Now, hindsight looking back on it, it makes sense why he was so quiet. 222 00:11:24,059 --> 00:11:27,938 He was probably getting so much information washed over him all the time. 223 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:33,777 He's just a special individual in my life that has, uh, changed me for the better. 224 00:11:34,862 --> 00:11:38,073 So today, as I go into this process, anybody can come through. 225 00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:42,202 In readings, often people who are both living and past will get acknowledged. 226 00:11:42,286 --> 00:11:46,582 I kinda have to navigate and figure out who's departed, who's still here. 227 00:11:46,665 --> 00:11:47,958 And what the message is. 228 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,670 So the other way that I work also is sometimes with objects. 229 00:11:51,754 --> 00:11:53,922 Now some people bring objects. Others don't. 230 00:11:54,006 --> 00:11:56,133 Um, today do you have any today? 231 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:59,511 I didn't know. So I didn't bring anything. You didn't bring anything. 232 00:11:59,595 --> 00:12:03,223 I brought one when I grabbed the drinks for everyone when I saw you were here. 233 00:12:03,307 --> 00:12:05,350 If you don't mind… do you have it on hand right now? 234 00:12:05,434 --> 00:12:08,979 -It's on my finger. Literally on hand. -Cool. Can you put it there? I love it. 235 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:09,897 [laughing] 236 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:10,898 We got jokes. 237 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:13,525 -So I'll hold onto this, just to start. -[Corey] Okay. 238 00:12:13,609 --> 00:12:16,445 I'll see what I get as far as this goes. 239 00:12:16,528 --> 00:12:17,529 I'll segue to you. 240 00:12:17,613 --> 00:12:19,072 -In theory, hopefully. -Okay. 241 00:12:19,156 --> 00:12:21,158 -[Tyler] And we'll see what happens. -Gosh. 242 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:23,285 I'm just gonna start connecting. 243 00:12:23,911 --> 00:12:26,163 I'll start bringing through people one by one. 244 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,958 [sighs] All right. 245 00:12:30,709 --> 00:12:31,543 Okay. 246 00:12:31,627 --> 00:12:33,378 [gentle music playing] 247 00:12:33,462 --> 00:12:34,296 Yeah. 248 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:37,341 [Corey chuckles] 249 00:12:38,926 --> 00:12:40,219 When we talk to you, 250 00:12:40,302 --> 00:12:42,596 I wanna talk about your mom's side of the family, 251 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,014 in the way this comes across. 252 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:46,558 And it's really interesting, the way it's coming in. 253 00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:50,687 'Cause they have me talking about a long line of educators, 254 00:12:50,771 --> 00:12:54,066 who are multiple generation of educators in some capacity. 255 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:57,653 But I am seeing three specifically, so do you know at least three generations? 256 00:12:57,736 --> 00:12:59,279 -Oh yeah. -[Tyler] Okay, cool. 257 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,490 So I have to bring up this lady. 258 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:05,118 I am connecting more to your mom's side than your dad's side. Okay? 259 00:13:05,202 --> 00:13:07,454 That's where I'm going, the way it comes through. 260 00:13:08,247 --> 00:13:10,374 She's coming in. She's very insistent. 261 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:13,710 She's having me talk about your mom, who gives me a living feeling. 262 00:13:13,794 --> 00:13:15,254 -Good to keep in mind. -Yeah. 263 00:13:16,755 --> 00:13:17,714 [Tyler] Okay. 264 00:13:21,635 --> 00:13:25,222 I'm having to highlight her mother. Is this who you're hoping to hear from? 265 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:27,057 -Okay, just making sure. -Unreal, yes. 266 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,142 -Love it. -She showed me a funny thing. 267 00:13:29,226 --> 00:13:31,228 As far as a reference, this is funny. 268 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:33,564 I feel like she feels like she lived a full life. 269 00:13:33,647 --> 00:13:37,776 She's not giving me a lot of trauma. I'm not getting anything premature. 270 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:41,488 There's this joke about trying to, "Hang in there until I'm 100." 271 00:13:41,572 --> 00:13:43,824 -[Corey] She just missed it. -"I'm gonna make it to 100!" 272 00:13:43,907 --> 00:13:45,576 I feel like she didn't get to it. 273 00:13:45,659 --> 00:13:47,286 -She came close. -Almost. Yeah. 274 00:13:47,369 --> 00:13:48,745 In the way this comes across, 275 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:52,291 she is bringing up this emphasis on a number of things. 276 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:56,378 -She's showing me the Eiffel Tower. -She's from Paris! 277 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:58,714 -Unreal! -[Tyler] There's a picture, though. 278 00:13:58,797 --> 00:14:01,633 There's a picture of her either in front of the Eiffel Tower-- 279 00:14:01,717 --> 00:14:02,718 Oh my God, yes. 280 00:14:02,801 --> 00:14:05,053 And there's a strong emphasis, as far as this goes. 281 00:14:05,137 --> 00:14:08,140 -I'm seeing the triangular shape. -Oh my God. 282 00:14:08,223 --> 00:14:10,100 -Yeah. All right. -[Trish] Wow. From Paris. 283 00:14:10,183 --> 00:14:12,019 -[Corey] She's from Paris. -[Tyler] It's funny. 284 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:15,188 Very cool. Okay. 285 00:14:15,272 --> 00:14:19,067 Um, she does bring up a number of things related to her girls. 286 00:14:19,151 --> 00:14:21,778 -Would she have more than one daughter? -Two girls, yeah. 287 00:14:22,905 --> 00:14:25,866 It's a connection to two places. When we talk about her daughters, 288 00:14:25,949 --> 00:14:28,827 I kinda suspect she's showing me one here and one there. 289 00:14:28,911 --> 00:14:31,163 -East Coast, West Coast. -Geographically separate. 290 00:14:31,246 --> 00:14:34,166 -They're bringing up Florida. -Where my aunt lives. Her other daughter. 291 00:14:34,249 --> 00:14:37,753 -Gotcha. I'm Tyler, Aunt, Florida, weird. -Wow! 292 00:14:38,295 --> 00:14:41,423 Then as this comes across, she's acknowledging this feeling 293 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:42,925 of timing her passing. 294 00:14:43,008 --> 00:14:46,929 It feels like she was holding off to pass, then she passed when she was ready. 295 00:14:47,596 --> 00:14:51,266 If the family has said, "I wonder if she was holding on and timed it," 296 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:52,768 she absolutely timed it. 297 00:14:52,851 --> 00:14:56,355 She shoved whatever it was away and waited for my kids to say goodbye. 298 00:14:56,438 --> 00:14:58,273 Then she passed. Yeah, she timed it all. 299 00:14:58,357 --> 00:15:00,734 -There's a very big emphasis on that. -Yeah? 300 00:15:00,817 --> 00:15:03,654 She wants that to be known. "I knew it was gonna happen." 301 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:07,199 -"I feel like I had control at the end." -Yeah, she did. You're right. 302 00:15:07,282 --> 00:15:11,119 -[woman 3] That's really awesome. -Wow. I mean, you nailed it. 303 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:13,664 [Tyler] Good. Amazing. I'm gonna hand this back to you. 304 00:15:13,747 --> 00:15:15,958 -Thank you. -[Tyler] So I'm gonna connect… 305 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:18,502 -You gotta get some-- -You sure? 306 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,088 -Yeah. Enjoy. -Thank you, sir. 307 00:15:21,171 --> 00:15:23,131 [Tyler] So, I'm gonna switch gears. 308 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:27,427 And we'll go from there. This is kinda interesting. Okay… 309 00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:30,055 -[Corey] Oh, have some wind! -I know. 310 00:15:30,138 --> 00:15:33,475 I look like Beyoncé with this wind in my hair. Like… Whoo 311 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:35,519 Okay, so… [chuckling] 312 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:36,520 Yes. 313 00:15:42,067 --> 00:15:44,569 How about we talk about this younger passing? 314 00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:47,906 This one's more traumatic for you in the way it's coming across. 315 00:15:48,407 --> 00:15:50,617 This is somebody who definitely passed prematurely. 316 00:15:50,701 --> 00:15:54,246 Even earlier than middle age. So we're talking early-early. 317 00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,040 Now, this person's coming through with a lot of angst. 318 00:15:57,124 --> 00:16:00,377 When they do that, it means they're hesitant to talk about how they passed, 319 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:04,006 just simply because of the traumatic nature of how it happened. 320 00:16:04,089 --> 00:16:07,426 There's an emphasis on, like, discovery, 321 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:09,386 seeing somebody's body after they passed. 322 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:12,264 A big focus on that and not wanting that to be traumatic 323 00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:13,807 for the people involved. 324 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:15,684 -Yeah. -[Tyler] But it's a whole thing. 325 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:21,398 And it's very much about when we come upon somebody after they've died. 326 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:25,402 -This was definitely premature. -Yeah. 327 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:30,991 This is kind of a really tough thing to have to tune into because I feel like-- 328 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:32,200 I'm sure. [sniffles] 329 00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:35,120 [Tyler] There was some situations where 330 00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:38,623 they didn't get the chance to say goodbye in the way that they wanted to. 331 00:16:39,124 --> 00:16:41,668 Anytime that comes through, it indicates 332 00:16:41,752 --> 00:16:43,754 a chance to have a last interaction, 333 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:46,256 and then we didn't have it. Does that make sense? 334 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:48,759 [woman 3] Yeah, I'm sure that's my buddy Travis. 335 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:49,760 Yeah. 336 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:54,931 One of our best friends was trying to get ahold of him all night and couldn't. 337 00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:57,225 -[Tyler] Yeah. -[woman 3] And he didn't wake up. 338 00:16:57,309 --> 00:16:59,186 But I think he had some heart issues. 339 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,730 And our friend found him in bed. 340 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:06,193 -Yeah, that's right. -And he couldn't be woken up. It was… 341 00:17:06,276 --> 00:17:08,195 Yeah. Yeah. 342 00:17:08,278 --> 00:17:11,114 [woman 3] I don't even have words. I really don't even have words. 343 00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:16,495 He puts almost an apology around how this happened. 344 00:17:16,578 --> 00:17:20,082 Basically. It's vague. He just emphasizes this feeling of, 345 00:17:20,165 --> 00:17:22,125 I wanna make this clear, totally peaceful. 346 00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:24,211 He comes through with extreme mental clarity. 347 00:17:24,294 --> 00:17:26,296 -Extreme mental clarity. -[woman 3] I love that. 348 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:28,215 I think maybe before he passed, 349 00:17:28,298 --> 00:17:32,260 he might not have been in… a state of mind where I don't feel clear, 350 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:34,721 is the way I wanna respectfully put that. 351 00:17:34,805 --> 00:17:37,682 -Yes. -So he acknowledges his clarity now. 352 00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:39,518 He's like, "I'm all good." 353 00:17:39,601 --> 00:17:40,769 -[Corey] He's here. -Awesome. 354 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:43,855 [Tyler] Yes, and it's kind of an extra-tragic thing, 355 00:17:43,939 --> 00:17:47,651 because it just kind of feels like he passed away when things were kinda-- 356 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:48,902 On their way up. 357 00:17:48,985 --> 00:17:51,947 -He had done a lot of work to get there. -Yes, he had. 358 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:55,450 Yes. And he helped a lot of people on his journey. 359 00:17:55,534 --> 00:18:00,372 And so I think that's why we all just were so just, I mean, floored. 360 00:18:00,455 --> 00:18:03,834 You know? Um… He brought the best out of everybody. 361 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,086 -[sniffles] -[Tyler] People like that are so special. 362 00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:07,337 That's really amazing. 363 00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:09,589 -[Corey] You got your butt kicked. -I know. 364 00:18:09,673 --> 00:18:10,841 [laughing] 365 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:12,217 -[Tyler] That's okay. -Oh, honey. 366 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:13,385 I feel so good, though. 367 00:18:13,468 --> 00:18:17,180 I feel like I can now pass that on to his, you know, his family. 368 00:18:17,264 --> 00:18:18,390 He has three daughters. 369 00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:21,393 They loved him. I mean, so much. Everybody loved him. 370 00:18:21,476 --> 00:18:24,729 Travis helped me really, like, shed skin 371 00:18:24,813 --> 00:18:27,315 and grow into the person I'm really meant to be. 372 00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:32,320 Travis was like a big brother to me, when I really needed one. 373 00:18:32,404 --> 00:18:35,031 [Tyler] Yeah. All right. 374 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:42,080 As I was scribbling here, focusing over here, 375 00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,832 I feel like I needed to talk to you. 376 00:18:44,332 --> 00:18:46,751 -I felt I needed to talk about your mom. -Okay. 377 00:18:46,835 --> 00:18:49,421 Okay? And it's a bit of a complicated thing. 378 00:18:49,504 --> 00:18:52,883 I want you to know, when she comes across, she comes across fine. 379 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:56,761 But there is a lot that I feel that she has learned since she has passed 380 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:58,930 about what she could've done differently. 381 00:19:00,223 --> 00:19:04,477 In life, I believe that we do what we can with what we're working with. 382 00:19:04,561 --> 00:19:05,395 [sighs] 383 00:19:05,896 --> 00:19:08,231 But I also feel like there were times 384 00:19:08,315 --> 00:19:12,944 where she might not have been able to see or admit to when she was wrong. 385 00:19:13,695 --> 00:19:15,947 And when she could've done things differently. 386 00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:20,202 And I think this is, in the way this comes across, 387 00:19:20,285 --> 00:19:23,955 the feeling of, "I get it now. I get it now, and I'm sorry." 388 00:19:25,916 --> 00:19:28,668 You basically had to accept the apology you never received. 389 00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:30,712 -[woman 3] Wow. -[Tyler] In a big way. 390 00:19:30,795 --> 00:19:34,966 She wants to give you that apology today because she could not see it in life. 391 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:37,177 -[woman 3] Oh, wow. -[Tyler] Not fully. 392 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:39,429 But she sees it now from where she's at. 393 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:40,347 [laughing] 394 00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:44,351 [Tyler] And at times when it feels like you needed a mother more than anything, 395 00:19:44,434 --> 00:19:48,271 she feels she was limited in her ability to be able to do that. 396 00:19:48,355 --> 00:19:50,190 -To give that fully. -[woman 3] Wow. 397 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:54,110 [Tyler] She comes through with this feeling of, "I see it now. I get it now." 398 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:55,946 "And I'm sorry." 399 00:19:56,696 --> 00:20:00,283 And when she comes through, she has a lot of love for you. 400 00:20:00,784 --> 00:20:03,662 I feel like more than anything, she wishes she would've 401 00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:05,580 not gotten lost in the details of things. 402 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:09,376 And she is so proud of how you've handled your own children, 403 00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:11,378 and not making the same mistakes that she made. 404 00:20:11,461 --> 00:20:12,963 [woman 3] That's beautiful. 405 00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:16,299 And through that, she feels like you are, like, 406 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:19,469 the best daughter she could have ever possibly had. 407 00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:23,265 But she's realized a lot since her passing. 408 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:26,351 And I think that's the beautiful thing 409 00:20:26,434 --> 00:20:29,104 when people come through. They see this transformation 410 00:20:29,187 --> 00:20:33,984 of what they could've done differently. And she really is sorry. 411 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:37,195 -Thank you. [sniffles] -[Tyler] Of course. 412 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,113 [sighs deeply] 413 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:41,449 -Oh, my goodness. -[Corey] Now you got your butt kicked. 414 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:42,575 [all laughing] 415 00:20:42,659 --> 00:20:45,829 -[Taylor] Kicking butts, taking names. -[woman 3]  It feels really good though. 416 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:48,957 [Tyler] Good. These things are a release. That's the goal. 417 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,209 -That's what it's about. -[woman 3] Closure. 418 00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:53,753 [Trish] We had a very strange relationship. 419 00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:56,298 She was very abusive to only me. 420 00:20:56,381 --> 00:20:57,465 Mm-hmm. 421 00:20:57,549 --> 00:21:00,010 And I never understood why. 422 00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:01,845 Even when she passed, 423 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:05,432 I cried because I was like, "I don't think I'll get the apology." 424 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:10,061 -And I'm so… It's kinda shocking. -[woman 3] Mm-hmm. 425 00:21:10,562 --> 00:21:11,396 Um… 426 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,566 I kept a lot. I didn't… A lot of people would not have known. 427 00:21:14,649 --> 00:21:17,527 And it was almost a Mommie Dearest… 428 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:18,945 [Tyler] Yeah, yeah. 429 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:21,364 -[Trish] …life that I had with her. -Yeah. 430 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:25,410 -But I'm glad that she feels better. -Yeah. 431 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:29,247 There's accountability in that apology, and I think that's what's important. 432 00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:32,334 That's shocking, 'cause I have her necklace in the car. 433 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:35,086 and I didn't bring it in, 'cause I was like, 434 00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:37,630 I didn't know if I wanted her to come through. 435 00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:40,050 -Yeah. -[Corey] She needed to. 436 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:40,967 [sighs] 437 00:21:41,051 --> 00:21:44,596 [Tyler] It sounds like that was needed, and that's okay. 438 00:21:44,679 --> 00:21:47,307 [Trish] All right. You're a blessing. 439 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:49,642 -You've always been one. -You're a blessing to me. 440 00:21:49,726 --> 00:21:52,354 I went through such a hard time in high school. 441 00:21:52,437 --> 00:21:53,563 I had to leave early. 442 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:57,400 Thanks to you, I was able to and to get out of that environment. 443 00:21:57,484 --> 00:22:00,236 But it was extremely toxic for me to be in high school. 444 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,656 And, um, I mean, in all honesty, there was a point 445 00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:05,575 where I was considering ending my life. 446 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,078 -[woman 3] Wow. -I wasn't feeling the support I needed. 447 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:10,538 And I felt like this… 448 00:22:10,622 --> 00:22:13,208 When you're a teenager, things are so much bigger. 449 00:22:13,291 --> 00:22:17,128 And if it were not for you, I really don't think I'd be here today, 450 00:22:17,212 --> 00:22:18,713 in complete honesty. 451 00:22:18,797 --> 00:22:21,508 The support that you gave me, the love that you showed me. 452 00:22:21,591 --> 00:22:24,594 You, as a teacher, were so much more than a teacher to me. 453 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:27,097 My high school years were incredibly difficult. 454 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:30,683 I was harassed. I dealt with bullying. Not only was I a medium, but I was gay. 455 00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:34,020 Also, I was an only child, so I beat to my own drum. 456 00:22:34,104 --> 00:22:36,731 I got very mixed responses from people I went to school with. 457 00:22:36,815 --> 00:22:39,234 And it was a very difficult time in my life. 458 00:22:39,317 --> 00:22:42,278 It took a toll on my mental health, my emotional well-being. 459 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:43,822 I dreaded having to go to school. 460 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:47,992 I tell everybody about you, and how one teacher can make a difference 461 00:22:48,076 --> 00:22:50,870 in someone's whole life because they can save someone's life. 462 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:53,873 And you didn't even realize. And I just hope you know 463 00:22:53,957 --> 00:22:57,001 that if it weren't for you, I wouldn't be sitting in this chair today. 464 00:22:57,085 --> 00:22:58,336 -So… -Oh! 465 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:01,047 You extended your hand to me when I needed it the most. 466 00:23:01,131 --> 00:23:02,966 -Thank you. -Aw! 467 00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:07,011 Oh my goodness. I'm literally gonna go to the car and cry. 468 00:23:07,095 --> 00:23:09,180 -[woman 3] I know. -[Tyler] Thank you. This is good. 469 00:23:09,264 --> 00:23:11,891 It was so nice to meet all of you. 470 00:23:11,975 --> 00:23:13,810 -But thank you for today. -All right. 471 00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:15,520 It's been special. Yes. 472 00:23:15,603 --> 00:23:17,105 -All right. -[woman 3] Thank you. 473 00:23:17,188 --> 00:23:18,648 -Thank you. Take care. -Bye! 474 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:19,607 [Corey] Bye! 475 00:23:20,108 --> 00:23:22,694 -That was so exciting. -Oh, I know. 476 00:23:22,777 --> 00:23:23,778 Who would've thought, huh? 477 00:23:23,862 --> 00:23:24,737 He's so cute. 478 00:23:24,821 --> 00:23:27,323 -Oh, my gosh. That was insane. -Such a cutie pie. 479 00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:29,200 -I wanna call my mom. -I know. 480 00:23:29,284 --> 00:23:30,618 -[Corey] I'm dying. -Crazy. 481 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:33,371 I've been thinking about all the calls I'm gonna make. 482 00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:35,707 -[woman 3] Travis's family are gonna-- -It's insane, right? 483 00:23:35,790 --> 00:23:37,292 [woman 3] They're gonna be stoked. 484 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:39,502 There's no way that Tyler could've known that. 485 00:23:39,586 --> 00:23:41,838 -Oh, big hug. Mm. -Big hug. 486 00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:45,508 -[Tyler] Thank you so much. Oh. -[Trish] Oh, for sure. 487 00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:47,552 [upbeat music playing] 488 00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:55,101 -[Tyler] That needs to cook a little more. -[Theresa] I know. 489 00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:57,562 I've been doing this longer than you've been alive. 490 00:23:57,645 --> 00:23:58,980 [Tyler] Well. 491 00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:01,191 Come on now. Do you know how to fry bacon? 492 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:02,859 He knows how to boil eggs. 493 00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:07,363 That's my regret. I should've taught him. 494 00:24:07,447 --> 00:24:09,073 -[Tyler] Whatever. -Things that I didn't. 495 00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:11,576 I did it 'cause I thought that was being a good mom. 496 00:24:11,659 --> 00:24:14,496 -Instead of teaching him to live-- -You made me codependent. 497 00:24:14,996 --> 00:24:18,166 I used to heat his pants up in the dryer 498 00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,709 when he was in grammar school, 499 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,212 so they'd be warm for him when he'd go to school. 500 00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,129 [Heather] No! 501 00:24:23,213 --> 00:24:25,548 [interviewer] Is Theresa an earth-bound spirit guide? 502 00:24:25,632 --> 00:24:27,383 [laughing] 503 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:31,429 I don't know about that. She can put that on her résumé. Um… 504 00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:33,681 When I'm overwhelmed, I need help grounding myself. 505 00:24:33,765 --> 00:24:34,807 So I go to people. 506 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:35,808 I go to my mom. 507 00:24:35,892 --> 00:24:38,144 She sometimes drives me nuts, but she's great. 508 00:24:38,728 --> 00:24:40,772 [Theresa] You shouldn't leave any later than 9:15. 509 00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:42,023 [Tyler] All right. I'll rush. 510 00:24:42,106 --> 00:24:44,776 [Theresa] Your hair looks good. Did you set it? 511 00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:45,944 I do have your genes. 512 00:24:46,027 --> 00:24:47,862 [Theresa] Do you want me to wet your hair? 513 00:24:47,946 --> 00:24:51,157 -Or are you gonna do it? Okay. -No. I thought you… 514 00:24:51,241 --> 00:24:53,493 [interviewer] Who grounds you when she drives you crazy? 515 00:24:53,576 --> 00:24:55,703 When Mom drives me crazy, 516 00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:57,789 I think Clint. Clint grounds me. 517 00:24:57,872 --> 00:25:00,124 Nice tie-dye you got going. 518 00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,377 -Looks good. I'm sweaty. -You're all sweaty. 519 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:03,670 I'm always sweaty. 520 00:25:03,753 --> 00:25:05,672 My panties have ridden so far up. 521 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:10,426 They're actually going for an adventure. We're talking road trippers. 522 00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:13,263 The journey, it is not. Oh, this bathroom is disgusting. 523 00:25:13,346 --> 00:25:15,640 [Clint] Well, it's the real things, right? 524 00:25:15,723 --> 00:25:20,103 Then he drives me crazy. So then I just spend time in solitude. 525 00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:22,689 No, I have Nancy. I have Nancy. 526 00:25:24,065 --> 00:25:25,066 Talent. 527 00:25:26,109 --> 00:25:28,152 Ow! [chuckles] 528 00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:29,153 Thanks, Nancy. 529 00:25:29,237 --> 00:25:31,447 Then she drives me crazy and poops on the stairs. 530 00:25:31,531 --> 00:25:34,367 So I'm back to Clint. It really is like a triangle. 531 00:25:34,951 --> 00:25:36,494 [upbeat music playing] 532 00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:48,381 -The spot-- -Yes. 533 00:25:48,464 --> 00:25:51,259 We are going to Sunset Boulevard. So… 534 00:25:51,342 --> 00:25:53,177 Yes, which is what we're driving to. 535 00:25:53,261 --> 00:25:55,138 -I have a little… -We'll take it-- 536 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:58,099 -A lot of deliveries, not a lot coming. -Oh. [chuckles] 537 00:25:58,182 --> 00:26:00,643 You're just like here a lot. I'm like, "Huh?" 538 00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:02,729 -Stuff comin' through? -You're vibin'? 539 00:26:06,941 --> 00:26:07,859 Hi! 540 00:26:07,942 --> 00:26:09,152 [chuckling] 541 00:26:09,861 --> 00:26:12,822 Your order's there. They have extra today for you as well. 542 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:15,116 -Oh, great. Thank you so much. -[Tyler] Yeah. Of course. 543 00:26:15,658 --> 00:26:19,370 I've been involved with Project Angel Food now for probably four or five years. 544 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:21,205 How's it going? 545 00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:22,665 I'm so excited! 546 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:28,129 Oh! Okay, all good. You got three bags today. 547 00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:31,466 [Tyler] I feel like my life is defined by moments of trying to help people. 548 00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:32,884 My main way is readings, 549 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:35,803 but when I can do it in any other way, it does feel nice. 550 00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:41,851 [woman] Thanks for coming, and doing this for us all the time. 551 00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,311 [Tyler] Yes, absolutely. 552 00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:44,312 [man] Tyler! 553 00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:46,356 -How's it going, Brad? -[Brad] Good. 554 00:26:46,439 --> 00:26:49,984 -Good to see you. -How were the deliveries today? 555 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:53,154 -Amazing. I was thankful to do it. -Oh, great. 556 00:26:53,237 --> 00:26:55,365 -I wanted to have a word with you. -Why? 557 00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:57,450 -Nice seeing you. -Lovely to meet you. 558 00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,619 Yes. So I know this is random. [laughs] 559 00:26:59,702 --> 00:27:02,038 -Your mother. -[Brad] Yeah. [laughs] 560 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:03,581 Can we talk about this really quick? 561 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,291 -Yes. -Are you open to it? 562 00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:06,334 -Yes. -Okay. 563 00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,377 Going to a reading, 564 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:10,296 it does help if somebody knows they're going to get read. 565 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:13,675 When a reading is a surprise, it can be very overwhelming for a person. 566 00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:15,468 It can sometimes close them, 567 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,137 which is why typically I don't do that. 568 00:27:18,221 --> 00:27:21,307 I don't do readings in the supermarket on unsuspecting people. 569 00:27:21,391 --> 00:27:23,893 You never know their headspace. But in this case, 570 00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,853 it feels like he really needed it. 571 00:27:26,521 --> 00:27:28,731 So we've got to do a reading. 572 00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:31,192 -Okay, all good. It's nothing big. -[Brad] Okay. 573 00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:33,945 Comes across fine, but I feel like I had to highlight mom. 574 00:27:34,028 --> 00:27:37,490 The interesting thing that was coming in was I had to talk about the little ones, 575 00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:39,409 and a feeling of watching over them. 576 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,078 There was an acknowledgment in the way this came across. 577 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:43,454 I kept seeing a little boy. 578 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,165 There's a feeling of wanting it to be known. 579 00:27:46,249 --> 00:27:47,875 She's embracing this little boy. 580 00:27:47,959 --> 00:27:52,380 She didn't get the chance to be with him in the way that she wanted to in life, but 581 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,550 she's acknowledging him and just keeps showing me 582 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,386 the symbology for embracing and hugging and loving. 583 00:27:58,469 --> 00:28:01,055 And there's this feeling of pride 584 00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:03,766 in how you've been able to navigate family, 585 00:28:03,850 --> 00:28:05,601 and creating a family for yourself, 586 00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:07,895 and finding a sense of family for yourself. 587 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:12,525 This is a really interesting thing, but I can't stress enough 588 00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:14,235 how proud of you she is of you, 589 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,988 but also, I suspect, your partner. So are you married? 590 00:28:17,071 --> 00:28:18,156 Yes. 591 00:28:18,239 --> 00:28:20,992 Okay, she wants to call him her son as well. [chuckles] 592 00:28:21,075 --> 00:28:22,493 You need to know that today, 593 00:28:22,577 --> 00:28:25,288 that in the way this comes across, she's embracing him. 594 00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:28,458 Um, when mom comes across there's just this feeling of family, 595 00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:31,335 seeing your family, this little boy. I don't know how, 596 00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:34,213 what it is, but there's this feeling of embracing. 597 00:28:34,297 --> 00:28:38,426 And just a feeling of kind of being known through the stories that you'll tell him. 598 00:28:38,509 --> 00:28:41,095 -Yeah. [laughs] It's so-- -Carrying on that legacy. 599 00:28:41,179 --> 00:28:42,305 [sighs] 600 00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:44,348 -Yes. Thank you for that. -[Tyler] Yeah. 601 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,100 -My, my mom, um… -Of course. 602 00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:51,898 When my husband and I were going through the process of adopting our son… 603 00:28:51,981 --> 00:28:53,399 [somber music playing] 604 00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:56,360 …when I'd start to talk to her about it, she'd say, 605 00:28:56,444 --> 00:28:59,947 "Bradley, I don't wanna talk about this. Why are you going to do this?" 606 00:29:00,031 --> 00:29:02,366 "It's bad enough that you're gay." 607 00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:05,703 -Right? To have a son. -[Tyler] Yeah. 608 00:29:06,287 --> 00:29:08,915 -Then she passed away suddenly. -Yeah, yeah. 609 00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:13,836 [crying] And all these years later… My son's 13. 610 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,508 -That she is acknowledging-- -And embracing. 611 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:20,885 -[Brad] And embracing him-- -Yeah. 612 00:29:20,968 --> 00:29:25,598 Lately, last week or so, Gabriel's been asking for stories. 613 00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:28,434 And so I told him all these stories 614 00:29:28,518 --> 00:29:32,313 about my energetic, lovely, flamboyant mom. 615 00:29:32,396 --> 00:29:35,399 So I really appreciate that, Tyler. 616 00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:37,068 [speaking indistinctly] 617 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:38,945 [Tyler] This is hug from her. 618 00:29:39,028 --> 00:29:41,489 I want you to know that. She's so proud of you, 619 00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:45,201 and how you've handled things. I believe people grow when they pass away. 620 00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:46,786 We see things differently. 621 00:29:46,869 --> 00:29:49,288 She is so proud of the family you've created. 622 00:29:49,372 --> 00:29:52,250 -Thank you. I'm proud of my family too. -[Tyler] Good. You should be. 623 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:58,172 My mom didn't ever really fully accept me being gay. 624 00:29:58,256 --> 00:29:59,632 -[Tyler] Sure. -She did her best. 625 00:29:59,715 --> 00:30:01,425 Yes. She meant well. [chuckles] 626 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:04,303 -[Brad] With trying. -Yeah. 627 00:30:04,387 --> 00:30:07,390 One of the last times she was with my husband, 628 00:30:07,473 --> 00:30:11,227 she sat down with him and talked to him and tried her best. 629 00:30:11,894 --> 00:30:15,314 But to have her approval was always so… meant so much to me. 630 00:30:15,398 --> 00:30:18,317 And just to hear all these years later that she's here, 631 00:30:18,401 --> 00:30:20,695 and that she's watching. That she's, 632 00:30:20,778 --> 00:30:24,323 she's proud of the family that we've created. 633 00:30:24,407 --> 00:30:26,242 Exactly. That's what's beautiful. 634 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,161 -It really means so, so much. -[Tyler] Oh, I'm so glad. 635 00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:33,124 I did not expect a reading today at all. 636 00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,710 It's such a gift that Tyler has, 637 00:30:35,793 --> 00:30:39,964 and to be able to share his love and kindness with others through the gift, 638 00:30:40,047 --> 00:30:43,551 it is a healing. Like I feel today healed. 639 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:46,512 -Bye, you guys. Thank you. -[Heather] Bye. 640 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,023 [Clint] So, first we need a bowl. You wanna grab a bowl? 641 00:30:57,106 --> 00:30:58,274 [Tyler] Yeah, two seconds. 642 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:00,860 Is this an 8x8? Yes. 643 00:31:01,777 --> 00:31:04,614 [Tyler] It's moments like these I realize I should've shaved my neck. 644 00:31:05,156 --> 00:31:08,743 Then it's all furry, but look. Tell me. Do I have a furry neck? 645 00:31:09,452 --> 00:31:11,037 -Is it bad? -[Clint] It's not that bad. 646 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,289 -Okay. Not that bad? -[Clint] It could be worse. 647 00:31:13,372 --> 00:31:16,042 -[Tyler] Fourth a cup of water. -[Clint] Can you handle that? 648 00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:17,501 A fourth? What does that mean? 649 00:31:17,585 --> 00:31:20,338 One-fourth a cup… I think this one. Actually, the cup… 650 00:31:20,421 --> 00:31:22,882 It's worn off. That's the fourth right there. 651 00:31:24,717 --> 00:31:26,552 Ooh, I did too much. 652 00:31:26,636 --> 00:31:28,638 Exactly one-fourth. I don't know about you… 653 00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:29,889 Oh, wait, no it's not. 654 00:31:29,972 --> 00:31:33,142 -[gasps] I did to a half. -That's a half. I'm glad you didn't… 655 00:31:33,643 --> 00:31:36,729 -[Tyler] Wow, who knew cooking is so hard. -[Clint] Do you wanna crack the egg? 656 00:31:38,272 --> 00:31:40,983 Yeah, sure. Where do… where? 657 00:31:43,611 --> 00:31:47,281 Fuck. All right. Come on, little chicken. 658 00:31:48,407 --> 00:31:49,283 [chuckles] 659 00:31:49,367 --> 00:31:52,370 -What are they eating? Is it a boiled egg? -Do you need help? 660 00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:54,747 -You're not cracking it. -You do it. 661 00:31:56,707 --> 00:31:57,667 [laughing] 662 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:58,751 This, I can do. 663 00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:04,548 [Clint] What do you think will happen if you burn the brownies? 664 00:32:04,632 --> 00:32:06,759 [Tyler] Our brownies might get a Michelin star, 665 00:32:06,842 --> 00:32:08,344 but the tire kind. 666 00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:10,096 -Forty-one seconds? -[Clint] Minutes. 667 00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:15,476 Oh, we should just stare into each other's eyes for 45 minutes. 668 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,730 -And then tell each our feelings. -Forty minutes. 669 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:23,818 -You know they tell couples-- -Let you do a reading. 670 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:27,571 [Tyler] That's a way to look at it. 671 00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:33,661 [vibrant music playing] 672 00:32:43,838 --> 00:32:45,840 [phone ringing] 673 00:32:47,008 --> 00:32:48,259 -[woman 1] Hello? -Hello. 674 00:32:48,342 --> 00:32:49,427 [woman] Hey. 675 00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:51,762 [woman 2] You sent me the affidavit, right? 676 00:32:51,846 --> 00:32:55,641 -[woman 1] I did. I sent you mine. -All right. It says, "Possible criminal." 677 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,311 [woman 1] Yeah, he definitely has an arrest record. 678 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:03,107 -[interviewer] Hello. -Hello. 679 00:33:08,863 --> 00:33:12,366 -Uh, I have to look at you, right? -[interviewer] Yes, ma'am. 680 00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:16,245 My name is Robin Martinelli. I own and operate Martinelli Investigations, 681 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:20,082 and I'm a private investigator in the state of Georgia and Alabama. 682 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,752 I do criminal and civil cases. Um… 683 00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:27,923 Child custody, cheating spouses, missing people, murder, homicide, 684 00:33:28,007 --> 00:33:29,592 sex crime cases. 685 00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:32,678 So he didn't pay his bills. He's got some liens. 686 00:33:33,387 --> 00:33:34,597 [knocking] 687 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:37,433 -[Robin] I'll have to call you back. -[caller] Okay. 688 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,851 [Robin] Okay. Bye. 689 00:33:41,479 --> 00:33:44,648 -How's it going? I'm Tyler. -Hey, how are you? Nice to meet you. 690 00:33:44,732 --> 00:33:46,484 -I'm Heather. -Hi. Robin Martinelli. 691 00:33:46,567 --> 00:33:48,986 -Tyler. [chuckles] -Nice to meet you. 692 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:52,782 Tyler is at my office today to help my company and me 693 00:33:52,865 --> 00:33:57,995 facilitate any leads or feelings that he has about my two cases. 694 00:33:58,079 --> 00:33:59,538 I just wanted to tell you, 695 00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:02,500 when I saw you on TV so much, with the stars, 696 00:34:02,583 --> 00:34:06,504 I was so hoping as a private investigator, and in my cases, 697 00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:09,590 that you being so young, and your energy and your passion, 698 00:34:09,673 --> 00:34:12,218 if we could use some of that towards cases, 699 00:34:12,301 --> 00:34:15,429 you know, cold cases, new cases, that it would help so much. 700 00:34:15,513 --> 00:34:17,848 Definitely. Any way I can help, I'm happy to. 701 00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:20,518 I never have any control over what comes through. 702 00:34:20,601 --> 00:34:23,104 I do find generally impressions come through strongly, 703 00:34:23,187 --> 00:34:25,731 and when they do, I like to follow where I'm taken. 704 00:34:25,815 --> 00:34:27,233 -Yeah. -[Tyler] So yeah. 705 00:34:27,316 --> 00:34:29,902 But generally, um, objects do sometimes help. 706 00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:32,279 Sometimes they can help me determine a connection. 707 00:34:32,363 --> 00:34:34,740 It's okay if you don't have any. But really-- 708 00:34:34,824 --> 00:34:36,992 I don't… I don't have objects. 709 00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:38,744 I have their case files. 710 00:34:38,828 --> 00:34:39,703 Gotcha. Okay. 711 00:34:39,787 --> 00:34:41,789 [Robin] We're at a standstill with both cases. 712 00:34:41,872 --> 00:34:45,167 One is an older case, and one's a newer case. 713 00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:48,587 It's interesting, as you're talking, without giving too much away, 714 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,174 is there a question with at least one of the cases 715 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:54,218 whether someone is living or deceased? 716 00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:55,803 Yes, yes. 717 00:34:55,886 --> 00:34:58,055 -[Tyler] Okay. Is that one of the two? -Yes. 718 00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:00,391 Okay. So I'm gonna give it a scribble. 719 00:35:00,474 --> 00:35:02,393 It will give us an inclination of 720 00:35:03,894 --> 00:35:06,063 where we're going. So we have two cases. 721 00:35:06,147 --> 00:35:07,481 -[Robin] Yes. -One's older. 722 00:35:07,982 --> 00:35:09,817 -[Robin] Mm-hmm -[Tyler] One's newer. 723 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:11,902 [Robin] Mm-hmm 724 00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:15,072 And I'm gonna kinda try to separate the two, 725 00:35:15,156 --> 00:35:16,157 but let me look. 726 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:22,329 Just gonna give it one sec. Okay. 727 00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:23,956 With the newer one, 728 00:35:25,416 --> 00:35:27,877 I don't have this person's spirit coming through. 729 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,089 I do have to highlight a female, but they're not giving me any indication 730 00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:34,884 of this person being departed. I have to be very clear here. 731 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,844 -They could be. -We don't think so. 732 00:35:36,927 --> 00:35:38,137 [Tyler] Gotcha. 733 00:35:40,848 --> 00:35:42,725 I'm just gonna give it one sec. 734 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:45,394 Reading a case file is very different 735 00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:48,439 than reading somebody who has a loved one who's passed. 736 00:35:48,522 --> 00:35:50,482 As a medium, I talk to dead people. 737 00:35:50,566 --> 00:35:55,029 If she's not dead, then I have to utilize a different form of ability 738 00:35:55,112 --> 00:35:56,322 called remote viewing. 739 00:35:56,405 --> 00:35:59,491 I'm getting all this just through my own intuition, but I, I… 740 00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:04,455 I keep getting this feeling of, like, this person was afraid to speak out. 741 00:36:04,538 --> 00:36:08,334 Remote viewing is a means of receiving intuitive impressions, 742 00:36:08,417 --> 00:36:11,629 usually about a situation, or a place, or a person. 743 00:36:11,712 --> 00:36:14,131 Regardless, it works on the mental faculties 744 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:16,050 usually attributed to clairvoyance. 745 00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:19,553 Having strong mental images that end up kind of painting a picture 746 00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:22,389 of something that is real and exists. 747 00:36:24,433 --> 00:36:28,145 Okay. Feel like they're having to bring up 748 00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:32,566 kind of a lack of awareness around this case. 749 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,362 The cases were, like, minorities are underrepresented, 750 00:36:36,445 --> 00:36:39,490 or there's an underrepresentation in the awareness 751 00:36:39,573 --> 00:36:41,075 of the fact that they're missing. 752 00:36:41,158 --> 00:36:44,787 The newer case is very much giving me this feeling of, like, underrepresented, 753 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:48,499 underrepresented, underrepresented. in the way it comes across. 754 00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:50,876 With the newer case, was this person of a minority? 755 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:54,213 Gotcha. This is interesting. 756 00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:59,093 Huh. [exhales] 757 00:36:59,176 --> 00:37:03,138 Okay. They're having me talk about a reference to aliases, 758 00:37:03,681 --> 00:37:08,018 different names, being known by something else. 759 00:37:08,102 --> 00:37:11,438 I don't know the significance, of if there's a criminal significance, 760 00:37:11,522 --> 00:37:14,858 or if it's just a nickname, but it keeps coming through. 761 00:37:14,942 --> 00:37:18,195 Do we know of any aliases? Any uses of a different name? 762 00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:21,031 -Yes. -That's a big part of this situation. 763 00:37:21,115 --> 00:37:23,075 -[Robin] Okay. -That's a big part of this. 764 00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:27,329 That's a big lead because she has a very unusual name. 765 00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:32,042 So if it's totally different, I need to go down a different route to find her. 766 00:37:32,126 --> 00:37:36,463 Right. Are there any situations where, like, her phone, internet, 767 00:37:36,547 --> 00:37:39,049 all of that, has that been looked at thoroughly? 768 00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:43,387 You know, we forensically know about it, but we don't have it in hand. 769 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,390 I see. Gotcha. There's something digitally 770 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:50,811 that would give us an indication of what may have happened to her. 771 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:52,771 So think like last text messages. 772 00:37:52,855 --> 00:37:54,648 She lived very digitally. 773 00:37:54,732 --> 00:37:56,233 -There's a lot there. -Absolutely. 774 00:37:56,317 --> 00:37:58,527 [Tyler] I'm getting a sense of documented. 775 00:38:00,863 --> 00:38:03,449 This person simultaneously, I have to be clear here, 776 00:38:03,532 --> 00:38:05,701 dealt with some mental health stuff. 777 00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:08,662 It doesn't always feel like it was a diagnosed, 778 00:38:08,746 --> 00:38:11,290 or, like, it doesn't feel fully clear. 779 00:38:11,373 --> 00:38:13,876 But this is also adding a bit of a tricky element 780 00:38:13,959 --> 00:38:16,962 because I also feel like this person wasn't really in a super 781 00:38:17,046 --> 00:38:19,423 clear state of mind, and that kind of deteriorated. 782 00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:22,134 -But she did go into the mental ward. -She did? Okay. 783 00:38:22,217 --> 00:38:23,385 [Robin] Yes, she did. 784 00:38:23,469 --> 00:38:26,805 Had she not been diagnosed before this, or was this her first time? 785 00:38:26,889 --> 00:38:29,016 No, and she just got out. 786 00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:32,895 Gotcha. Well, I really feel like there's more than psychiatric issues here. 787 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:35,606 This feels like, "My past coming back to haunt me." 788 00:38:41,236 --> 00:38:44,990 The weird thing about this is I feel like there's definitely a feeling 789 00:38:45,074 --> 00:38:47,618 with her of, like, not being alone. 790 00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,996 This isn't a situation where someone walks out into the woods and dies. 791 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,331 Not that kind of thing. 792 00:38:52,414 --> 00:38:54,875 -But I can't believe you just said that. -[Tyler] Yeah. 793 00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:56,585 Did you hear what you just said? 794 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:57,920 Uh… 795 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:01,423 You said there was not a feeling that she had walked in the woods. 796 00:39:01,507 --> 00:39:03,509 -[Tyler] Right. Right. -And died. 797 00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,720 Because she tried to walk in the woods and died. 798 00:39:06,804 --> 00:39:08,806 Oh. Gotcha. 799 00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:10,265 [Robin] And she didn't. 800 00:39:10,349 --> 00:39:13,143 [Tyler] Right. Do we know why? 801 00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:14,812 Yes. 802 00:39:15,312 --> 00:39:18,482 -Then think we're on the right track. -[Robin] Yeah, we are. 803 00:39:18,565 --> 00:39:20,734 So she covered her stuff up with mud. 804 00:39:20,818 --> 00:39:23,987 [Tyler] Mm-hmm. Um, I'm gonna write something down privately 805 00:39:24,071 --> 00:39:27,074 that I don't want on camera, but I'm gonna give it to you to read, 806 00:39:27,157 --> 00:39:28,742 and just something to consider. 807 00:39:28,826 --> 00:39:30,661 -Give me one sec here. -[Robin] Yeah. Okay. 808 00:39:30,744 --> 00:39:31,745 Make sure. 809 00:39:34,331 --> 00:39:35,541 [soft music playing] 810 00:39:44,675 --> 00:39:46,927 All right, I'm just gonna give that to you. 811 00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:48,887 This is for the newer case. 812 00:39:49,471 --> 00:39:53,100 You can just open that off camera. So you might wanna conceal that from-- 813 00:39:53,183 --> 00:39:55,018 -Not right now. -[Tyler] Oh, you can look at it. 814 00:39:55,102 --> 00:39:57,813 Turn it over. Just make sure the camera can't see it. 815 00:39:57,896 --> 00:40:01,650 I wanna treat this person with respect and, like, privacy. 816 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:04,695 -[Tyler] And-- Okay. -That is one hundred percent correct. 817 00:40:05,529 --> 00:40:06,530 But… 818 00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:08,949 But… 819 00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:13,412 I… 820 00:40:15,456 --> 00:40:16,748 We know that, so… 821 00:40:16,832 --> 00:40:19,668 -[Tyler] You know that? -Every hour counts. 822 00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:24,173 Gotcha. I kinda suspect there's something related to that 823 00:40:24,256 --> 00:40:26,675 in as far as what happened to this person. 824 00:40:26,758 --> 00:40:27,593 Yep. 825 00:40:39,313 --> 00:40:42,524 -I still have hope for her. I really do. -[Robin] Oh, I do too. 826 00:40:43,025 --> 00:40:45,861 [Tyler] Now, maybe we can switch gears to the older one. 827 00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:47,488 [Robin] Okay. 828 00:40:49,198 --> 00:40:50,199 [Tyler] Mm… 829 00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:53,118 -We have a body for this one. Gotcha. -[Robin] Mm-hmm. 830 00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:57,164 Okay, they're having me talk about who would've been in charge 831 00:40:57,247 --> 00:41:00,584 of this particular case, investigating it, that kind of thing. 832 00:41:02,085 --> 00:41:04,296 There's kind of a feeling to me of something 833 00:41:04,379 --> 00:41:06,131 being mismanaged or mishandled. 834 00:41:06,215 --> 00:41:09,426 It just almost feels kind of convoluted, like, 835 00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:14,389 more should've been done in the time they had to figure out what was going on. 836 00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:17,893 So it's kind of giving me a bit of a weird feeling. 837 00:41:17,976 --> 00:41:20,646 -Um, you're one hundred percent correct. -[Tyler] Gotcha. 838 00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:25,067 This is interesting. 839 00:41:31,907 --> 00:41:32,908 Mm. 840 00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:37,621 It's giving me this feeling, the only way to describe it… 841 00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:39,498 Mm… 842 00:41:40,624 --> 00:41:44,044 It's causing me to sweat, a good sign. I just have to take this off. 843 00:41:44,586 --> 00:41:46,713 Stuff starts coming through physically. 844 00:41:49,341 --> 00:41:50,467 Whew, okay. 845 00:41:56,265 --> 00:41:58,267 Yeah. When I'm connecting with this, 846 00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:00,852 for some reason, he's giving me a bit of a hard time breathing. 847 00:42:02,354 --> 00:42:06,984 But I feel very much like I'm going to my neck here in a weird way. 848 00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:08,819 I feel like I'm trying to gasp for air. 849 00:42:09,403 --> 00:42:13,073 It's making me nauseous to even have to connect with. 850 00:42:14,074 --> 00:42:14,950 Man. 851 00:42:18,787 --> 00:42:22,374 Where he was found, was this an area he was familiar with? 852 00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:24,585 -Yes. Very familiar. -[Tyler] See, that's what I-- 853 00:42:24,668 --> 00:42:26,545 -He was walking home. -[Tyler] Mm-hmm. 854 00:42:26,628 --> 00:42:31,675 Sometimes it's, I mean, cases like this, where we've exhausted all resources, 855 00:42:31,758 --> 00:42:36,013 and all it takes is just one little detail we didn't know before to open up a lot. 856 00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:37,389 -So… -Yeah. 857 00:42:37,472 --> 00:42:41,351 We have an actual, physical crime scene, so that would help you. 858 00:42:41,435 --> 00:42:42,728 Gotcha. Okay. 859 00:42:43,437 --> 00:42:45,939 [somber music playing] 860 00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:51,778 [Tyler] I've been to a crime scene, 861 00:42:51,862 --> 00:42:54,656 but this is a situation where we know there is a body, 862 00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:57,075 but we don't know what led up to this young man's passing. 863 00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,537 And this is very unique, having a private investigator there, 864 00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:03,165 while I'm trying to intuit what exactly happened. 865 00:43:03,248 --> 00:43:05,792 So, in many ways, I'm in new territory. 866 00:43:06,877 --> 00:43:08,503 [Robin] This is the crime scene. 867 00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:14,676 This is, I guess, his little memorial. 868 00:43:18,138 --> 00:43:21,058 Do you get the feeling of anything come through? 869 00:43:25,687 --> 00:43:26,688 [Tyler] Yeah. 870 00:43:29,191 --> 00:43:30,317 It's overwhelming. 871 00:43:32,402 --> 00:43:33,695 Whoo. 872 00:43:33,779 --> 00:43:35,864 [closing theme music playing]