1 00:00:01,871 --> 00:00:04,917 - Hello. I'm Mandy Patinkin. 2 00:00:04,961 --> 00:00:07,485 Nearly 250 years ago, 3 00:00:07,529 --> 00:00:10,184 a new kind of government was born. 4 00:00:10,227 --> 00:00:15,450 To many, this upstart seemed unpredictable, even dangerous. 5 00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:18,540 The United States of America's democracy 6 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:21,238 has been the envy of the world, 7 00:00:21,282 --> 00:00:24,546 a free society of can-do optimists 8 00:00:24,589 --> 00:00:28,724 who seem to think anything was possible, 9 00:00:28,767 --> 00:00:33,729 but we were and are far from perfect. 10 00:00:33,772 --> 00:00:37,602 And today, pessimism stalks our land. 11 00:00:38,603 --> 00:00:42,390 The gap between the haves and have-nots only grows wider, 12 00:00:42,433 --> 00:00:44,261 but what worries so many people, 13 00:00:44,305 --> 00:00:46,220 myself included, 14 00:00:46,263 --> 00:00:47,656 is that we haven't come together 15 00:00:47,699 --> 00:00:49,919 to tackle our problems. 16 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:53,488 Instead of conversation, we scream at each other 17 00:00:53,531 --> 00:00:54,924 about things like race, 18 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:58,145 immigration, abortion, and guns. 19 00:00:58,188 --> 00:01:01,452 Even inside families, there are enemy camps. 20 00:01:01,496 --> 00:01:04,673 On January 6th, the depth of the anger, 21 00:01:04,716 --> 00:01:06,805 these fierce divisions, 22 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:08,720 shook the conscience of this nation 23 00:01:08,764 --> 00:01:10,505 to its core. 24 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:13,595 Tens of thousands of people marched to the Capitol 25 00:01:13,638 --> 00:01:16,989 to protest an election that they believed was stolen. 26 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:21,385 Embedded in the large and mostly peaceful crowd 27 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:27,043 were hardcore far-right extremists bent on violence. 28 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:29,828 It was a grand stage for a show of force 29 00:01:29,872 --> 00:01:33,223 that had been fermenting for years. 30 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:38,228 The most important questions. How does the healing begin? 31 00:01:38,272 --> 00:01:42,580 How do we learn to listen? How do we move on? 32 00:01:44,147 --> 00:01:47,846 Now, in the first part of a six-part series, 33 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:50,066 we search for answers. 34 00:01:52,503 --> 00:01:56,116 -My first target is a Jewish synagogue. 35 00:01:57,204 --> 00:01:59,815 I'm going to firebomb it with Molotov cocktail. 36 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:02,905 Destroy a window first and then throw the Molotov 37 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:06,169 cocktail in for maximum damage. 38 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:08,563 I will film it for your viewing enjoyment, 39 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:10,434 my kindred. 40 00:02:10,478 --> 00:02:12,132 White power. 41 00:02:16,962 --> 00:02:18,747 - It's a story decades in the making. 42 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:22,664 [overlapping voices] 43 00:02:22,707 --> 00:02:27,190 Desperate. Angry. 44 00:02:27,234 --> 00:02:30,237 Destructive. 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,064 The nation stopped in its tracks. 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,763 - Angry mob of supporters-- 47 00:02:34,806 --> 00:02:36,068 - The most sacred symbol 48 00:02:36,112 --> 00:02:37,200 of America's democracy attacked. 49 00:02:37,244 --> 00:02:38,723 - Let's burn this shit down. 50 00:02:38,767 --> 00:02:41,639 - A nation already deeply divided 51 00:02:41,683 --> 00:02:46,122 over politics, race, 52 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:49,125 and economic inequality. 53 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:52,172 And now the claim of a stolen election, 54 00:02:52,215 --> 00:02:55,131 extremists inciting rage, 55 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,960 some using violence. 56 00:02:58,003 --> 00:03:00,441 How did we get here? 57 00:03:00,484 --> 00:03:02,225 What fuels their fury? 58 00:03:02,269 --> 00:03:05,185 How grave is the threat to democracy? 59 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:07,274 - Indivisible, with liberty... 60 00:03:07,317 --> 00:03:09,232 - How do we heal the hate? 61 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:24,160 - This is an Iron Cross, and instead of filling it 62 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:26,031 in black or filling it in different colors, 63 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:28,033 I wanted to do-- we ran out of ink 64 00:03:28,077 --> 00:03:30,297 and it's been faded as well from the laser. 65 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:35,040 But basically, I was doing red or keeping my skin for white 66 00:03:35,084 --> 00:03:36,651 and the black because red, white, 67 00:03:36,694 --> 00:03:39,001 and black are actually National Socialist colors. 68 00:03:39,044 --> 00:03:40,437 You know, the Nazi flag has red, white, 69 00:03:40,481 --> 00:03:42,222 and black on it. 70 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:45,964 I have on my calf here what's known as the gauntlet 71 00:03:46,008 --> 00:03:48,315 or the white power fist. 72 00:03:48,358 --> 00:03:51,231 This is the remnants of the swastika tattoo that I had. 73 00:03:51,796 --> 00:03:54,321 - Sean Gillespie was not at the Capitol, 74 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:56,845 but once, like some who were there, 75 00:03:56,888 --> 00:03:59,413 he believed in white supremacy. 76 00:03:59,456 --> 00:04:02,807 His personal journey is one that will help us understand 77 00:04:02,851 --> 00:04:04,548 how radicalization can happen. 78 00:04:06,637 --> 00:04:08,422 - 20 years ago, I would have been-- 79 00:04:08,465 --> 00:04:10,598 I probably would've been one of those people in Washington, 80 00:04:10,641 --> 00:04:12,643 and probably would've been even more radical with it. 81 00:04:12,687 --> 00:04:15,429 Probably would've brought weapons or bombs 82 00:04:15,472 --> 00:04:16,908 and stuff like that. 83 00:04:16,952 --> 00:04:20,608 These two right here are articles about me 84 00:04:20,651 --> 00:04:24,002 from "The Spokesman." September 12th, 2004. 85 00:04:24,046 --> 00:04:27,267 Spokane man sentenced for temple attack. 86 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:30,444 One time Aryan-nation member receives 39 years in prison. 87 00:04:32,141 --> 00:04:33,534 The rabbi said there was little physical damage 88 00:04:33,577 --> 00:04:35,100 to the building, 89 00:04:35,144 --> 00:04:36,841 but there was clear psychological damage. 90 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:40,105 And it's true. 91 00:04:42,847 --> 00:04:45,328 - Sean was convicted of firebombing that synagogue 92 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:48,331 in Oklahoma City in 2005. 93 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:50,028 He served most of his sentence 94 00:04:50,072 --> 00:04:52,422 in America's most secure federal prison 95 00:04:52,466 --> 00:04:55,338 alongside the country's most dangerous killers 96 00:04:55,382 --> 00:04:57,514 and domestic terrorists. 97 00:04:57,558 --> 00:05:00,604 It was not what he had envisioned for himself. 98 00:05:00,648 --> 00:05:03,346 [somber music] 99 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:05,783 - That's actually me swearing into the U.S. Army 100 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,177 at the MEP station. 101 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:10,397 Military Entrance and Processing Station. 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 What's crazy is, had I stayed in the military, 103 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:15,532 I would have been retired this year. 104 00:05:16,707 --> 00:05:18,100 That day, I was proud. 105 00:05:18,143 --> 00:05:20,581 You know, I mean, I was 17 years old. 106 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:23,018 I had the whole world ahead of me at that point. 107 00:05:23,061 --> 00:05:24,585 If I could go back to this minute right here, 108 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:27,239 I would, you know? 109 00:05:27,283 --> 00:05:30,547 Life would have been a lot better. 110 00:05:30,591 --> 00:05:34,072 - But how did Sean take such a radical turn? 111 00:05:34,116 --> 00:05:36,684 - My family believes that I was born addicted to drugs. 112 00:05:36,727 --> 00:05:38,381 Ronsonol lighter fluid. 113 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:40,905 Bic lighter. 114 00:05:40,949 --> 00:05:43,255 [laughter] 115 00:05:43,299 --> 00:05:45,388 I used to act out in school. I used to get into fights. 116 00:05:45,432 --> 00:05:47,434 I used to cuss at teachers. 117 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:48,870 I had a lot of behavioral issues. 118 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:56,138 ♪ 119 00:05:56,181 --> 00:05:59,881 When I was 15, I stole a bicycle from Spokane 120 00:05:59,924 --> 00:06:03,580 and rode it from downtown Spokane to here. 121 00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:06,104 ♪ 122 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:07,932 They used to have an Aryan Nation sign 123 00:06:07,976 --> 00:06:11,414 somewhere in the middle, off where those trees are, 124 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,155 and this was the compound. 125 00:06:13,198 --> 00:06:20,118 ♪ 126 00:06:24,906 --> 00:06:28,736 - The fiery cross came down to us 127 00:06:28,779 --> 00:06:32,000 from thousands of years of use. 128 00:06:32,043 --> 00:06:33,828 - I read about Aryan Nations and the compound. 129 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:36,047 I didn't know anything about anti-Semitism 130 00:06:36,091 --> 00:06:38,659 or white supremacists or any of that. 131 00:06:38,702 --> 00:06:40,530 I think I just didn't understand the consequences 132 00:06:40,574 --> 00:06:42,532 in life when I was a kid. 133 00:06:42,576 --> 00:06:44,186 Here we go. 134 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:47,319 - Attention. 135 00:06:47,363 --> 00:06:51,498 Let us tell you what Aryan Nations is. 136 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:53,500 The Aryan nationalist understands 137 00:06:53,543 --> 00:06:55,502 that he lives in an age 138 00:06:55,545 --> 00:06:57,634 that the final battles are being waged 139 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:00,332 for the mastery of this Earth. 140 00:07:00,376 --> 00:07:02,465 - And, you know, it did say they were white militants 141 00:07:02,509 --> 00:07:04,162 and I was, like, "Well I'm white. 142 00:07:04,206 --> 00:07:05,903 I don't fit in with the Black and Hispanic gangs. 143 00:07:05,947 --> 00:07:07,557 It's perfect for me." 144 00:07:07,601 --> 00:07:09,429 - Can you turn it around? 145 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:13,041 - March. 146 00:07:13,084 --> 00:07:15,522 Slowly, inexorably... 147 00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:17,262 - I'm just wanting to believe in something, 148 00:07:17,306 --> 00:07:18,699 and it just--I grasped right to it. 149 00:07:18,742 --> 00:07:21,832 - Life goes on. 150 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:26,924 No end to time, no end to life, 151 00:07:26,968 --> 00:07:29,971 for those who have chosen to live forever. 152 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:34,802 - Feeling superiority over people, 153 00:07:34,845 --> 00:07:39,981 feeling that people are afraid of you... 154 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:42,070 'Cause, kindred, if you are a friend, 155 00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:43,941 then you will fight with me. 156 00:07:43,985 --> 00:07:45,900 Gives you a sense of euphoria. 157 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:48,598 You feel, like, I could walk into a room with a swastika 158 00:07:48,642 --> 00:07:49,817 and you're either gonna have people 159 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:51,862 who are gonna be angry at you 160 00:07:51,906 --> 00:07:53,385 or you're gonna have people that are afraid of you. 161 00:07:53,429 --> 00:07:56,563 White power. Sieg Heil. 162 00:07:56,606 --> 00:07:59,914 Having that really made me feel good just like-- 163 00:07:59,957 --> 00:08:01,263 I mean, just, like, I'm assuming, 164 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:02,612 a junkie would feel with heroin. 165 00:08:02,656 --> 00:08:04,005 You know, they get that rush, and they're like-- 166 00:08:04,048 --> 00:08:05,441 they're on top of the world. 167 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:09,053 Stand, my kindred, now, before it's too late. 168 00:08:09,097 --> 00:08:11,491 Because if you're not with us, you are against us. 169 00:08:15,233 --> 00:08:17,148 [explosion] 170 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:19,368 - It wasn't the only time during a huge Occupy 171 00:08:19,411 --> 00:08:21,370 demonstration in Oakland this week 172 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:25,156 that protesters found themselves on opposite sides. 173 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,985 - The extreme right believes we are in an unfolding state 174 00:08:28,029 --> 00:08:29,683 of civil war. 175 00:08:29,726 --> 00:08:31,467 - You're looking at live pictures 176 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,556 out of Charlottesville, Virginia. 177 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,384 This is where violent clashes have broken out 178 00:08:35,427 --> 00:08:38,692 between white nationalists and counter-protests there. 179 00:08:38,735 --> 00:08:40,911 - This has been declared a riot. 180 00:08:40,955 --> 00:08:43,131 - The extreme left is equally determined... 181 00:08:47,048 --> 00:08:49,093 Ready to meet violence with violence. 182 00:08:51,487 --> 00:08:53,184 In cities across the country, 183 00:08:53,228 --> 00:08:55,622 there have been scenes of disorder and anarchy. 184 00:08:59,016 --> 00:09:00,670 - If you would've told me 32 years ago, 185 00:09:00,714 --> 00:09:03,978 when I was in police academy, that I would have created 186 00:09:04,021 --> 00:09:07,155 so many PowerPoints, done so many presentations, 187 00:09:07,198 --> 00:09:13,030 town halls, in multiple states concerning extremism, 188 00:09:13,074 --> 00:09:14,379 I would have laughed at you. 189 00:09:14,423 --> 00:09:18,253 [soft music] 190 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:19,994 When you look at Spokane, 191 00:09:20,037 --> 00:09:22,736 I have the extremes in the left. 192 00:09:22,779 --> 00:09:26,478 I have the extremes in the right in our community. 193 00:09:26,522 --> 00:09:30,134 'Cause Spokane's a microcosm of America. 194 00:09:30,178 --> 00:09:32,963 We have a massive social justice movement 195 00:09:33,007 --> 00:09:37,011 trying to take hold and everything else. 196 00:09:37,054 --> 00:09:40,144 We're just it. We are America 197 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:47,064 and you watched from 2016 just radicalization on the left 198 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:52,461 pushing against the hate on the right and did culminate. 199 00:09:52,504 --> 00:09:55,856 It culminated on January 6th. 200 00:09:55,899 --> 00:09:57,988 ♪ 201 00:09:58,032 --> 00:10:00,512 Folks, we saw that coming. 202 00:10:03,037 --> 00:10:06,867 - This is 2021, y'all. This is insanity. 203 00:10:12,263 --> 00:10:14,265 - Extremism is the idea 204 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:19,967 that you're in-group's success and very survival 205 00:10:20,010 --> 00:10:21,708 can never be separated from the need 206 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:24,406 for hostile action against some out-group. 207 00:10:24,449 --> 00:10:27,931 - Our country has been usurped by a foreign tribe 208 00:10:27,975 --> 00:10:29,716 called the Jews. 209 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:33,676 - Extremism is defined by the hostile out-group 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,417 that I believe 211 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:39,900 poses an imminent existential threat to me. 212 00:10:39,943 --> 00:10:45,296 - Let's talk about decent, clean-cut, all-American youth 213 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:49,344 that want to take back Atlanta from the minorities, 214 00:10:49,387 --> 00:10:51,825 that want to take back San Antonio from the Mexicans, 215 00:10:51,868 --> 00:10:53,000 that wanna take back 216 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:55,393 San Francisco from the homosexuals 217 00:10:55,437 --> 00:10:57,308 and have a America for Americans. 218 00:10:58,005 --> 00:11:02,226 - Extremism also means that I must take hostile action 219 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:05,534 against that threatening out-group 220 00:11:05,577 --> 00:11:08,058 in order to ensure my survival. 221 00:11:08,842 --> 00:11:11,105 - As long as they're not using violence 222 00:11:11,148 --> 00:11:13,716 to forward their belief system, 223 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,023 their conspiracy theory, that's not an issue 224 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:19,417 that the FBI should or does pay attention to. 225 00:11:19,461 --> 00:11:21,811 They can't because it's First Amendment protected. 226 00:11:23,726 --> 00:11:26,816 - [indistinct] in a racist system! 227 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:29,645 - It is illegal to use violence 228 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:33,344 to forward your extremist viewpoints 229 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:35,085 which are politically affiliated. 230 00:11:37,653 --> 00:11:39,481 It's the use of force or violence 231 00:11:39,524 --> 00:11:43,833 that the FBI is able to use to open cases, 232 00:11:43,877 --> 00:11:46,183 to work investigations, and to put people in jail. 233 00:11:49,230 --> 00:11:52,799 - Nobody denies that what happened on January 6th, 2021, 234 00:11:52,842 --> 00:11:55,149 was, in fact, illegal. 235 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:57,804 A mob disobeying police orders, 236 00:11:57,847 --> 00:11:59,849 attacking officers, 237 00:11:59,893 --> 00:12:01,764 and breaking into the Capitol. 238 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:12,035 - Angry. Depressed. Sad. 239 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,646 I mean, you had the whole gamut of emotions going through. 240 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:17,040 You never think your own citizens 241 00:12:17,084 --> 00:12:18,433 would do this. 242 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:19,695 You see this stuff on television 243 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:21,392 in Third World countries 244 00:12:21,436 --> 00:12:23,612 where the people try to overthrow an evil government. 245 00:12:25,875 --> 00:12:27,790 You've got bad people out there, and unfortunately, 246 00:12:27,834 --> 00:12:31,446 that's what happened that day. 247 00:12:31,489 --> 00:12:32,969 The morning started off as a normal day 248 00:12:33,013 --> 00:12:36,756 on January 6th. 249 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,454 It was chilly. I do remember that. 250 00:12:39,497 --> 00:12:42,239 As the morning progressed, we noticed a flow of people 251 00:12:42,283 --> 00:12:45,677 coming down the sidewalks, heading towards the Capitol. 252 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:47,810 My post assignment that day was the First Street garage 253 00:12:47,854 --> 00:12:49,377 in the Rayburn Building. 254 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:51,379 Soon as I walked out the garage, 255 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:53,337 and looked over at the west front of the Capitol, 256 00:12:53,381 --> 00:12:57,254 I just saw this mass of humanity 257 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:58,865 amassed on the west front. 258 00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:01,998 And they were just chanting, waving American flags. 259 00:13:03,913 --> 00:13:05,654 - Some of them were climbing on the scaffolding 260 00:13:05,697 --> 00:13:07,699 that was set up there for the inauguration. 261 00:13:07,743 --> 00:13:12,487 all: USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. 262 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:15,011 - We're gonna walk down to the Capitol. 263 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,233 - President Trump! all: Four more years. 264 00:13:19,276 --> 00:13:21,496 - President Trump! all: Four more years. 265 00:13:21,539 --> 00:13:25,326 - Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. 266 00:13:25,369 --> 00:13:27,937 You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. 267 00:13:27,981 --> 00:13:30,200 - You're going in? 268 00:13:30,244 --> 00:13:32,986 - Holy shit. Those are so many people. 269 00:13:33,029 --> 00:13:35,162 - At first, the mob entering the Capitol seemed 270 00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:40,297 to be a spontaneous surge of angry Trump supporters, 271 00:13:40,341 --> 00:13:41,995 but it was more than that. 272 00:13:42,038 --> 00:13:45,085 There were voices. Extreme voices. 273 00:13:45,128 --> 00:13:46,738 - Don't act tough now! 274 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:47,957 We are your fucking boss. 275 00:13:48,001 --> 00:13:52,396 [all shouting] 276 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,094 - You have the Three Percenters, 277 00:13:54,137 --> 00:13:56,705 that believe that 3% of the population were really-- 278 00:13:56,748 --> 00:14:01,057 really went against the British occupation of the United States 279 00:14:01,101 --> 00:14:03,016 prior to the American Revolution. 280 00:14:03,059 --> 00:14:04,626 But the identification here 281 00:14:04,669 --> 00:14:06,889 is that we're going against an occupying force, 282 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:10,066 the occupying force being the federal government. 283 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:12,852 The Oath Keepers, who are more explicit 284 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:16,899 in their anti-federal government ideology 285 00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:22,078 and more intentional on engaging in violent behavior. 286 00:14:22,122 --> 00:14:24,428 - This is what we [bleep] for. 287 00:14:24,472 --> 00:14:25,952 Everything we [bleep] trained for. 288 00:14:25,995 --> 00:14:27,692 - Overran the Capitol. 289 00:14:27,736 --> 00:14:29,129 - We're in the [bleep] Capitol, bro. 290 00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:36,310 - And here we have the association with QAnon. 291 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:40,096 This was the QAnon statement. "Trust the plan." 292 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:41,750 And notice the plan is-- 293 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:43,883 the plan is the secret of Q ANON. 294 00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:47,103 Nobody knows what the plan is, but we know there is a plan, 295 00:14:47,147 --> 00:14:49,410 and if I'm in QAnon, I'm gonna trust that plan. 296 00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:53,501 I think the Proud Boys are there for the brawl. 297 00:14:53,544 --> 00:14:55,851 ♪ 298 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,766 They like to street fight. 299 00:14:58,636 --> 00:15:01,857 I call them the ideologically motivated fight club. 300 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:04,338 - The Proud Boys have harnessed the spirit 301 00:15:04,381 --> 00:15:06,601 of the 1776 revolution. 302 00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:10,213 George Washington was a Proud Boy. 303 00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:12,259 John Adams was a Proud Boy. 304 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:17,264 We are Proud Boys because we will not sit idly by 305 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:19,657 and let our country be destroyed. 306 00:15:20,702 --> 00:15:22,312 If we would have had more George Washingtons 307 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:23,923 in January 6th, 308 00:15:23,966 --> 00:15:26,055 you wouldn't have the little party they had. 309 00:15:26,099 --> 00:15:28,231 No, there would be no Capitol left. 310 00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:30,581 - Open this door now! 311 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:37,066 - You could smell the OC spray. 312 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:41,157 ♪ 313 00:15:41,201 --> 00:15:43,072 And there were some fists thrown. 314 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:45,553 There were fists thrown. There were batons waved. 315 00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:48,251 I got clocked a couple times. 316 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:49,426 I don't have the greatest knees, 317 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:52,168 but they--they felt it that day. 318 00:15:52,212 --> 00:15:55,258 Unfortunately, we did take some losses. 319 00:15:55,302 --> 00:15:58,653 We took not only a loss of life with some of our officers, 320 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:00,394 but a lot of guys got hurt. 321 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:01,873 Some are still hurt today. 322 00:16:08,184 --> 00:16:12,101 - We literally were taking desks and furniture 323 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:14,974 and pressing them up against the doorways to keep them out. 324 00:16:15,017 --> 00:16:18,064 - [screaming] Ow! 325 00:16:18,107 --> 00:16:19,413 - It was chaotic. 326 00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:21,023 It was embarrassing 327 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:24,418 to think this was actually happening. 328 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:26,072 In the same breath, I'm thinking, 329 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:28,030 "Why couldn't we have prepared ourselves better?" 330 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:30,815 - They're climbing up. They're climbing up the wall. 331 00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:33,340 - Whoo! - [chanting] USA! 332 00:16:33,383 --> 00:16:36,865 - This is a surreal scene. Holy shit. 333 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:39,346 What reality is this? 334 00:16:39,389 --> 00:16:42,131 Oh, my God. We did this shit. 335 00:16:42,175 --> 00:16:43,567 - I never saw this coming. 336 00:16:46,701 --> 00:16:48,355 - There's this notion of 337 00:16:48,398 --> 00:16:50,052 "the first people to be executed 338 00:16:50,096 --> 00:16:51,401 are gonna be the traitors." 339 00:17:00,671 --> 00:17:05,981 - And then, of course, we saw that at January 6th, 340 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:09,767 when we had people calling 341 00:17:09,811 --> 00:17:12,901 for the hanging of Mike Pence. 342 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:20,082 - Nothing like an execution to focus the mind. 343 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:22,476 ♪ 344 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:23,868 - The belief that the federal government 345 00:17:23,912 --> 00:17:25,914 is controlled by traitors 346 00:17:25,957 --> 00:17:29,004 is common among far-right-wing extremist groups. 347 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:31,659 Some also share what historians call 348 00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:33,704 the world's oldest hatred: 349 00:17:33,748 --> 00:17:35,706 anti-Semitism. 350 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:39,014 - Here is the both sad and stunning 351 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,886 anti-Semitic reference 352 00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:44,541 that we see on the sweatshirt of this man 353 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:48,545 that says, "Camp Auschwitz: work brings freedom." 354 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:53,420 If you peel back the onion on some of these groups, 355 00:17:53,463 --> 00:17:58,947 oftentimes one of the clearest layers is--is anti-Semitism. 356 00:17:58,990 --> 00:18:01,558 - Who makes public policy in this country? 357 00:18:01,602 --> 00:18:04,344 The Jews, the Anti-Christ, Jews, the Jew money power, 358 00:18:04,387 --> 00:18:06,172 and the Jew television. 359 00:18:06,215 --> 00:18:09,914 - The Jews--they claim, yes, they are of another race. 360 00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:14,528 They claim to be a race, and they are not of us. 361 00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:17,183 - Butler's 20-acre compound in northern Idaho 362 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:19,272 is headquarters for the Aryan Nations, 363 00:18:19,315 --> 00:18:22,927 the high-profile white supremacy group Butler leads. 364 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:25,582 It's here his followers gather under swastikas 365 00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:28,411 and guard towers and rail against the enemy. 366 00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:30,892 - They have rings in their noses, 367 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:32,676 and the Jew pulls that ring. 368 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,374 - Sean Gillespie remembers 369 00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:37,333 when he saw Richard Butler as his leader, 370 00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:40,162 a man who he respected as a founding father 371 00:18:40,206 --> 00:18:42,121 of the white supremacy movement. 372 00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:46,081 - And they said that more violent racist modern acts 373 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:49,171 of terror have come through the Aryan Nations' gates 374 00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:52,261 than any other hate group. 375 00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:55,438 - Butler's organization, Aryan Nations, 376 00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:56,787 was once the most prominent 377 00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:58,963 neo-Nazi organization in America. 378 00:18:59,007 --> 00:19:01,923 [disquieting music] 379 00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:08,234 ♪ 380 00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:13,978 - Somewhere up ahead is where the guard shacks were. 381 00:19:14,022 --> 00:19:16,372 Yeah, 20-some-odd years since I've been out here. 382 00:19:16,416 --> 00:19:21,072 I wanna say it was roughly in this vicinity here 383 00:19:21,116 --> 00:19:24,511 is where the guard shacks were. 384 00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:26,077 - For Sean Gillespie, 385 00:19:26,121 --> 00:19:28,950 Aryan Nations became a surrogate family, 386 00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:30,473 a place where he and other members 387 00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:32,693 could vent their anger at a society 388 00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:36,436 that offered them limited opportunities to get work, 389 00:19:36,479 --> 00:19:39,874 education, and health care. 390 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:41,571 - I mean, they basically were like, "Oh yeah, 391 00:19:41,615 --> 00:19:44,270 you're a runaway kid," and so he took me in. 392 00:19:50,841 --> 00:19:52,365 - You, move. - Yes, sir. 393 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:54,628 - That way. We told you before. 394 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:58,197 - They shaved my head and made me a fresh-cut skinhead. 395 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,024 I was, like, "I wanna know more about Aryan Nations," 396 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:02,766 and they just came in and gave me packets of literature. 397 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:04,855 So I just read and read and read. 398 00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:07,423 And a lot of it made sense, you know, 399 00:20:07,467 --> 00:20:09,947 because they were like-- you know I-- 400 00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:12,298 I didn't know any Jews, so you know it was, like, 401 00:20:12,341 --> 00:20:15,475 I began to be told that, okay, all Jews are bad, 402 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:17,128 and they're descended from Cain. 403 00:20:21,307 --> 00:20:25,093 So Pastor Butler's house was over here. 404 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:30,098 Wow, I mean, there is nothing left. 405 00:20:30,141 --> 00:20:32,056 There's the foundations. 406 00:20:32,796 --> 00:20:35,146 That's from his house right there. 407 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:38,411 It's crazy. 408 00:20:38,454 --> 00:20:40,456 He was actually really nice. 409 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:44,155 He had that old grandpa, nice grandpa kind of thing 410 00:20:44,199 --> 00:20:45,896 going on to him if you were white. 411 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:47,550 - I came to the United States. 412 00:20:47,594 --> 00:20:49,117 - Somewhere over here, there was, like, a swing set 413 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,380 somewhere back here for the kids, you know? 414 00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:54,818 'Cause every child Nazi needs a playground, I guess. 415 00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:59,127 - Richard Butler was one of the most important thinkers 416 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:02,043 of the--of the Christian Identity Movement. 417 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:04,263 - Hitler's the second most hated man on Earth, 418 00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:06,265 Jesus Christ being the first, by the Jews. 419 00:21:07,222 --> 00:21:09,137 So there you are. 420 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:10,747 - Richard Butler was very effective 421 00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,358 because they were charismatic 422 00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:15,926 but also because he was able to create this merge 423 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:22,498 of traditional Christian identity ideas and neo-Nazism. 424 00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:27,068 - Religion is deeply tied into the Aryan Nations' philosophy. 425 00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:29,592 They proclaim that they, the Aryans, 426 00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,333 are the true Israelites. 427 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:35,250 - And almost anyone who is something 428 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:37,034 in the far-right movement 429 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:41,865 spent some time with Butler in his compound in Idaho. 430 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:44,390 - All I condone is this, 431 00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:47,915 is my race to wake up and get off their hind ends 432 00:21:47,958 --> 00:21:49,786 and stand up to live. 433 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:52,441 I am fighting for the life of the white race. 434 00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:55,357 - Richard Butler was a former employee of an aircraft company 435 00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:58,447 and had a patent on some type of device 436 00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:01,320 they put on airplane tires to keep them from exploding 437 00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:04,932 when the airplane landed. So he had some money. 438 00:22:04,975 --> 00:22:07,456 He thought that Jews were taking over the banks 439 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,850 in America, the companies in America, 440 00:22:09,893 --> 00:22:13,375 and were brainwashing children in this United States 441 00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,986 that they had to love people of color, 442 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:17,640 people who were different. 443 00:22:17,684 --> 00:22:21,949 And he all said this was a massive Jewish conspiracy. 444 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:24,647 - Hail victory. 445 00:22:24,691 --> 00:22:26,997 Hail victory. 446 00:22:36,093 --> 00:22:37,878 - Sean Gillespie admits he didn't know 447 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,532 any Jews personally, 448 00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:42,665 but they were a convenient scapegoat for his anger. 449 00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:47,191 - I was abused several times by several people. 450 00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:48,845 I had a lot of behavioral issues 451 00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:51,370 related to my abuse. 452 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:54,329 [melancholy music] 453 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,897 ♪ 454 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:59,595 It caused a lot of-- a lot of trauma. 455 00:22:59,639 --> 00:23:02,990 I mean, it was not a pleasant experience as a child, 456 00:23:03,033 --> 00:23:05,035 but, you know, it happened, off and on, for two years. 457 00:23:07,473 --> 00:23:10,780 I quickly began to distrust authority. 458 00:23:10,824 --> 00:23:13,696 I became very, like, anti-social, 459 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:16,438 and I was in these group homes 460 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:18,005 with older kids, which didn't help. 461 00:23:18,048 --> 00:23:19,746 You know, these 17-year-old runaway kids 462 00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:24,490 who were doing drugs and living on the streets. 463 00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:29,103 In 2002, I was here in Spokane, 464 00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:31,714 and I was again on the streets 465 00:23:31,758 --> 00:23:33,629 because my family didn't--even though I was in the army 466 00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:35,588 and I was getting ready to go 467 00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:37,372 to basic training in the spring, 468 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:41,594 they did not let me stay with them. 469 00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:45,815 Was discharged from the army 470 00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:48,862 for violating the army's equal opportunity program 471 00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:51,908 because I was very vocal about being racist. 472 00:23:51,952 --> 00:23:54,215 I didn't hide it. 473 00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:56,783 I just had so much anger. 474 00:23:56,826 --> 00:23:58,393 It wasn't even about the message. 475 00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:01,091 It was about me finding an outlet for my anger, 476 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:02,571 and hate was that. 477 00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:06,749 I ended up deciding to go around the country 478 00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:08,229 doing hate crimes. 479 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,408 There was a skinhead band called Midtown Boot Boys, 480 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,062 and they have a song called "Road Nazis." 481 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:17,020 And it's all about using your vehicle 482 00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:20,154 to kill Jews and Blacks and Mexicans. 483 00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,156 And so I was incredibly intoxicated, 484 00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:25,638 listening to this violent song over and over again on repeat. 485 00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:28,205 I hit one lady with my truck, 486 00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:31,687 and I ran over two African-American teenagers. 487 00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:34,081 It's beautiful. 488 00:24:34,124 --> 00:24:36,170 Look at those. Look at that, man. 489 00:24:36,213 --> 00:24:40,522 I made a video, basically, where I climbed up a mountain 490 00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:42,176 to create a dramatic effect. 491 00:24:42,219 --> 00:24:45,527 From this time on, I am dedicating myself 492 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,529 to smashing out the Zionist pigs 493 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:48,965 that are ruling this country... 494 00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:51,620 I filmed myself basically making a declaration of war. 495 00:24:51,664 --> 00:24:54,275 By eliminating the mongrel horde 496 00:24:54,318 --> 00:24:56,103 and smashing the Jewish synagogues 497 00:24:56,146 --> 00:25:00,107 that teach hate--hatred of the white race. 498 00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:02,544 I was gonna just sacrifice my life for the movement. 499 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,808 People like Robert Mathews. 500 00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:09,464 People like Eric Rudolph, Timothy McVeigh, 501 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,597 who are not afraid to be the lone wolfs of this country 502 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,730 to go out there and smash the Zionist system. 503 00:25:14,774 --> 00:25:17,516 By smashing out the illegal immigrants 504 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,475 that are slowly but surely taking over our country. 505 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,130 - Sean venerated what he considered to be 506 00:25:23,173 --> 00:25:25,262 the heroes of the radical right: 507 00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:27,917 terrorists like Eric Rudolph, 508 00:25:27,961 --> 00:25:30,572 the bomber of the Olympic Park in Atlanta, 509 00:25:30,616 --> 00:25:32,574 where one human being was killed, 510 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:34,445 and most of all, 511 00:25:34,489 --> 00:25:36,578 fellow army veteran Timothy McVeigh, 512 00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:38,275 who bombed the Federal Building 513 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:42,192 in Oklahoma City, killing 168. 514 00:25:44,107 --> 00:25:45,848 - I was thinking about Tim McVeigh. 515 00:25:45,892 --> 00:25:48,111 He kind of inspired me to do a crime in Oklahoma City. 516 00:25:51,637 --> 00:25:53,639 I scouted out the target before I decided to do it. 517 00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:55,554 I drove by, and I filmed it. 518 00:25:55,597 --> 00:25:59,166 My first target is a Jewish synagogue. 519 00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:03,257 Some fucking Yiddish kike, fucking... 520 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:06,390 hatred-of-the-white-race- teaching synagogue. 521 00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:10,003 I'm gonna firebomb it with Molotov cocktail. 522 00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:11,700 Destroy a window first 523 00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,876 and then throw the Molotov cocktail in for maximum damage. 524 00:26:14,747 --> 00:26:17,750 See the damage. 525 00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:19,839 I lit the Molotov cocktail 526 00:26:19,882 --> 00:26:22,581 and threw it at the door alcove. 527 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:25,192 I didn't realize at the time it was the entrance 528 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:26,628 to the day care center. 529 00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:28,238 I was arrested, 530 00:26:28,282 --> 00:26:30,676 and I was extradited back to Oklahoma City. 531 00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:33,156 ♪ 532 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,071 I go to sentencing a few months later. 533 00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:39,641 I had written a threatening letter 534 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:41,382 to the synagogue in the meantime. 535 00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:43,993 I signed it "6 million more," and I signed it 536 00:26:44,037 --> 00:26:46,822 in--in Aryan blood and Aryan honor. 537 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:49,695 So I was eventually sentenced to 39 years in federal prison. 538 00:26:51,087 --> 00:26:52,436 I stood up, and I gave 539 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,439 a white supremacist Nazi salute. 540 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:58,138 So I'm at USP Coleman. 541 00:26:58,181 --> 00:27:00,096 I'm respected amongst the inmates 542 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:03,186 because of my crime. 543 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:08,191 In 2008 I stabbed a--a guy who was a child molester. 544 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:12,587 I was sent to the ADX Federal Super Max in Colorado, 545 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,067 which is the most maximum-security prison 546 00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:16,591 in the United States, where I ended up 547 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:20,551 spending 8 1/2 years in solitary confinement there. 548 00:27:20,595 --> 00:27:22,466 I'm alone for the first time, 549 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:26,209 and all I have is just time 550 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:29,212 to ruminate, to think, 551 00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:31,345 and to just do a lot of introspection. 552 00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,956 And that's what I did. I just started thinking. 553 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,392 I'm like, "What the hell have I done with my life?" 554 00:27:35,436 --> 00:27:38,308 ♪ 555 00:27:38,352 --> 00:27:40,397 I was, like, "I missed out on my career 556 00:27:40,441 --> 00:27:43,052 in the U.S. Army that I loved." 557 00:27:43,923 --> 00:27:45,533 There was time that I could honestly say 558 00:27:45,576 --> 00:27:47,274 I probably lost my mind for a while. 559 00:27:47,317 --> 00:27:50,538 I--I tried to kill myself. 560 00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:55,586 I have a extensive scar here 561 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:59,329 where--you can see right here 562 00:27:59,373 --> 00:28:05,727 I cut my--my arm open, took a overdose of lithium, 563 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:08,730 and I've put a bag over my head, 564 00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:11,994 been carried out of the cell unconscious. 565 00:28:12,038 --> 00:28:13,866 I just didn't want to live. 566 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:15,650 You know, I was--there was a lot of guilt. 567 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:18,218 I was serving 39 years for something 568 00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:20,133 I didn't even believe in anymore. 569 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,137 - After serving 16 years of his 39-year sentence, 570 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,487 Sean's conviction was overturned 571 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,228 because of a change in the law, 572 00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:31,971 and on his 36th birthday, he was a free man. 573 00:28:32,014 --> 00:28:33,624 - Today is one week and two days 574 00:28:33,668 --> 00:28:36,323 since I got out of prison. Fuck prison. 575 00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:40,109 Fuck not following the laws. Fuck just being an idiot. 576 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:42,242 If people don't like that, they can kiss my ass. 577 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,287 I just think those people are a joke. 578 00:28:44,331 --> 00:28:45,767 I mean, the January 6th people-- 579 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,900 like, what did you do? 580 00:28:47,943 --> 00:28:51,338 You defecated in Nancy Pelosi's office 581 00:28:51,381 --> 00:28:52,818 and sat at her desk? 582 00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:55,603 It's like, you're not taking over the government. 583 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:57,039 You weren't even close. 584 00:28:57,083 --> 00:29:01,304 So I just had my second laser tattoo removal. 585 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,785 As you can see, my face is swollen. 586 00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:06,483 And this time, we actually hit some of my arm as well. 587 00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:11,097 Hit the swastika there. 588 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:12,446 It's a good thing that I did get caught, 589 00:29:12,489 --> 00:29:14,143 honestly, 590 00:29:14,187 --> 00:29:18,278 because I probably would have just kept doing stuff 591 00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:20,933 and probably ended up killing somebody. 592 00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:24,327 These people are--are snakes. They're fake, you know, 593 00:29:24,371 --> 00:29:25,807 and they'll tell that to your face, that, 594 00:29:25,851 --> 00:29:28,767 "Oh, yeah you know we--we don't believe illegal action. 595 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:30,290 "Illegal action's wrong. 596 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,248 Aryan Nations doesn't do illegal actions," 597 00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:34,642 And then you look at their track record, you know? 598 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,035 All these white supremacist attacks 599 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:38,211 coming from the Aryan Nations compound. 600 00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:41,431 - Free speech ends when opinions cross the line 601 00:29:41,475 --> 00:29:43,390 into illegal acts. 602 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:46,741 And that is exactly how Aryan Nations was undone 603 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,395 after a violent chance encounter 604 00:29:48,438 --> 00:29:52,834 with a mother and son who were passing by. 605 00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:54,009 - I didn't realize at the time 606 00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:55,837 that compound was out here. 607 00:29:57,883 --> 00:30:04,237 Then when we realized the Doc Martens, swastikas, 608 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,545 and armbands, we realized that we were under attack. 609 00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:14,334 - Keenans happened to simply just be driving 610 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:16,379 by the rural compound, 611 00:30:16,423 --> 00:30:18,468 stopped in front of it to pick up something 612 00:30:18,512 --> 00:30:20,688 that came out of the window of their car, 613 00:30:20,731 --> 00:30:24,344 and when they did, the guards of the Aryan Nation saw them, 614 00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,520 and got in a pickup truck, 615 00:30:26,563 --> 00:30:28,304 two in the back with assault rifles, 616 00:30:28,348 --> 00:30:30,567 and started chasing them down the road. 617 00:30:35,007 --> 00:30:39,620 - They proceeded to open fire. 618 00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:42,405 We had careened down into the ditch. 619 00:30:42,449 --> 00:30:44,016 My mom pushed me down to the floorboards 620 00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:47,889 and told me to get down, and she had looked at me 621 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:50,152 and said, you know, "I--I love you, 622 00:30:50,196 --> 00:30:53,808 I've loved being your mom," and that this is the end. 623 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,811 [dramatic music] 624 00:30:57,725 --> 00:30:59,770 - A farmer happened to be watching this on the porch 625 00:30:59,814 --> 00:31:01,555 of his house. 626 00:31:01,598 --> 00:31:04,210 And so he got a shotgun out and ran out 627 00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:06,516 and told him to get away, and so they all left. 628 00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:12,522 - There's never been anybody who's ever really stood up 629 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:14,350 and said, "Okay, enough is enough" 630 00:31:14,394 --> 00:31:17,701 and that this can't go on anymore. 631 00:31:17,745 --> 00:31:20,313 And so after talking with Mom, 632 00:31:20,356 --> 00:31:22,619 we both kinda felt, like, hey, it's--it's time 633 00:31:22,663 --> 00:31:25,622 and something needs to be done and that, you know, 634 00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:28,190 these people need to be dealt with. 635 00:31:28,756 --> 00:31:31,019 - Attorney Morris Dees 636 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:34,501 has been fighting hate groups for half a century. 637 00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:38,157 - We got involved in the case then at the request of a lawyer 638 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,986 out there that represented the Keenan family. 639 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:43,989 And that led to a lawsuit against the Aryan Nations. 640 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:45,468 - Dees, who fights racism 641 00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,079 through the Southern Poverty Law Center, 642 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,211 launched a civil suit against Butler 643 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:52,214 seeking more than $10 million in damages 644 00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:54,913 for Victoria Keenan and her son Jason. 645 00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:57,916 - The streets were filled with these people 646 00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,309 who loved the Aryan Nations with their signs. 647 00:32:00,353 --> 00:32:02,616 And finally, we put on some witnesses. 648 00:32:02,659 --> 00:32:04,096 A couple of them who had been involved 649 00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:07,360 in assaulting our clients testified for us. 650 00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:09,231 And we put Richard Butler on the witness stand, 651 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:11,494 who had to basically say 652 00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:14,976 that he thought that Hitler didn't kill enough Jews. 653 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:19,415 The jury returned a major verdict against them. 654 00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:22,810 - A member of the Idaho jury that hit the Aryan Nations 655 00:32:22,853 --> 00:32:24,768 with a multi-million-dollar damage award 656 00:32:24,812 --> 00:32:26,422 ordered late yesterday 657 00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:29,208 to pay more than $6 million to a mother and son 658 00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,559 who were assaulted by its security guards two years ago. 659 00:32:32,602 --> 00:32:35,518 - Which meant that we seized the property. 660 00:32:35,562 --> 00:32:36,955 It was sold. 661 00:32:39,609 --> 00:32:41,872 - After losing the lawsuit in 2000, 662 00:32:41,916 --> 00:32:44,179 and Butler's death four years later, 663 00:32:44,223 --> 00:32:46,921 Aryan Nations disintegrated. 664 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,096 But for Morris Dees, 665 00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:49,532 it was just one battle 666 00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:53,275 in a war he is still fighting. 667 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,321 - Well, nothing really changed. 668 00:32:55,364 --> 00:33:00,195 You still have individuals who do not like people of color. 669 00:33:02,806 --> 00:33:05,984 And they may not have a landed facility where they go out 670 00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:09,030 and train people to shoot guns and other things, 671 00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:12,294 but in many ways, they're just as dangerous 672 00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:14,688 and in fact, probably more dangerous, 673 00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,255 because they can wrap themselves 674 00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:18,126 around a political agenda, 675 00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:20,563 which was sp--phoned 676 00:33:20,607 --> 00:33:24,176 and actually encouraged by the president of the United States, 677 00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:27,179 who came and spoke to them on January 6th, 678 00:33:27,222 --> 00:33:28,876 and says, "Go down to the Capitol 679 00:33:28,919 --> 00:33:31,879 and you know basically what to do." 680 00:33:31,922 --> 00:33:34,316 - How significant a role White supremacists played 681 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,144 in the attack on the Capitol 682 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:38,146 remains open for debate, 683 00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,409 but there is no doubt about what happened 684 00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:43,499 four years earlier in Charlottesville. 685 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:47,851 all: Jews will not replace us. Jews will not replace us. 686 00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:49,592 You will not replace us. 687 00:33:49,636 --> 00:33:51,377 - Richard Spencer was one 688 00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:53,857 of the organizers of that rally. 689 00:33:53,901 --> 00:33:55,555 He wears well-cut suits 690 00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:57,339 and presents his race-centered views 691 00:33:57,383 --> 00:33:59,037 as policy alternatives. 692 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:03,041 Spencer has a home in Whitefish, Montana, 693 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:05,695 a region of the country where white supremacists 694 00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:07,828 have been known to make their presence felt. 695 00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:14,704 Whitefish resident Tanya Gersh watched the violence unfold 696 00:34:14,748 --> 00:34:17,011 at the Capitol on January 6th 697 00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:20,971 and knew all too well how far that rage could reach. 698 00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:26,107 [soft music] 699 00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:27,413 ♪ 700 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:35,986 - I'm Tanya Gersh. 701 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,772 I'm a real estate agent. I'm a mom. 702 00:34:42,254 --> 00:34:46,780 I'm a victim of doxing from a neo-Nazi website 703 00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:47,998 called "The Daily Stormer." 704 00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:55,093 It wasn't really until I married my husband, 705 00:34:55,136 --> 00:34:56,703 who grew up very conservative Jewish, 706 00:34:56,746 --> 00:35:00,533 that I really started paying attention to my faith 707 00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:03,449 and really embracing it. 708 00:35:03,492 --> 00:35:07,975 So here I was living my dream. 709 00:35:08,018 --> 00:35:10,673 You know, very successful real estate agent 710 00:35:10,717 --> 00:35:13,154 and perfect children, perfect husband. 711 00:35:13,198 --> 00:35:16,288 I really felt for so many years 712 00:35:16,331 --> 00:35:17,767 how blessed I was, 713 00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:19,900 and sadly, 714 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:25,123 that positivity was because of a lot of my naivete. 715 00:35:25,775 --> 00:35:27,864 - Race is real, race matters, 716 00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:30,171 and race is the foundation of identity. 717 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:31,694 And that holds for white people. 718 00:35:31,738 --> 00:35:34,610 That holds for all human beings. 719 00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:39,398 - This whole thing started with--Richard Spencer 720 00:35:39,441 --> 00:35:42,488 stood up right after the election 721 00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:44,533 in Washington, D.C., 722 00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:50,496 in a crowd full of people at a conference and said-- 723 00:35:51,018 --> 00:35:53,368 - Hail Trump! Hail our people! 724 00:35:53,412 --> 00:35:54,630 Hail victory! 725 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,459 [cheers and applause] 726 00:36:06,642 --> 00:36:09,210 - So Richard Spencer is--he's a white nationalist. 727 00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:11,212 He's--he's a Nazi in a business suit. 728 00:36:11,256 --> 00:36:16,565 And he lived in our town, and he wanted 729 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:20,265 to let everyone know he lived in Whitefish, Montana, 730 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,789 because it was white and he could be white here, 731 00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:24,921 and Whitefish hated that. 732 00:36:24,965 --> 00:36:28,316 We did not accept that, and we didn't accept him. 733 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,839 I shouldn't even say "we." 734 00:36:29,883 --> 00:36:34,061 It's just, everyone left him alone forever 735 00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:36,324 and let them do their thing. 736 00:36:36,368 --> 00:36:39,109 - Absolutely, I'm not a White supremacist. 737 00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:40,807 I've answered that question probably a thou-- 738 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:42,287 literally a thousand times at this point. 739 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:43,549 I've always said no. 740 00:36:43,592 --> 00:36:45,246 - Richard Spencer is credited 741 00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:46,900 with creating the term "alt-right," 742 00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:50,033 although I don't think there's anything alternative about it. 743 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:53,428 I think that the alt-right, while it's newly packaged, 744 00:36:53,472 --> 00:36:55,865 is scavenging and recycling ideas 745 00:36:55,909 --> 00:36:57,215 that have been around for a long time 746 00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:59,260 in the extreme right. 747 00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,088 - Richard Spencer, I think, 748 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:03,656 tried to do what many of the Klan leaders 749 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:05,266 tried to do in the '80s, 750 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:06,876 when they came up with the idea 751 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,443 of the clean Klan. 752 00:37:08,487 --> 00:37:11,185 Trying to create a more dignified, 753 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,274 more visible, more legitimate version 754 00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:16,973 of the American far right. 755 00:37:17,017 --> 00:37:19,062 - Effectively everyone in the alt-right agrees 756 00:37:19,106 --> 00:37:24,285 with the notion that a racially or ethnically defined state, 757 00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:27,027 a nation-state, is justified, 758 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:29,899 that it doesn't need to apologize for itself, 759 00:37:29,943 --> 00:37:31,988 that it has the right to be. 760 00:37:33,555 --> 00:37:35,035 - Richard Spencer 761 00:37:35,078 --> 00:37:37,037 and his mother, Sherri Spencer, 762 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,300 own a commercial building downtown Whitefish. 763 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:42,956 Sherri Spencer called me 764 00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:45,263 to sell her commercial building. 765 00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:46,873 I answered the phone, 766 00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:51,399 and we actually had a very nice conversation. 767 00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:53,532 She said to me, "Tanya, 768 00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:55,969 "my heart is breaking for Whitefish. 769 00:37:56,012 --> 00:37:59,886 "My heart is breaking in general 770 00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:03,629 "because I don't believe in the ideologies of my son 771 00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:06,327 "and I don't know what to do. 772 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:10,679 "I think that I should probably just sell this building. 773 00:38:12,377 --> 00:38:16,337 Can you help me?" And I was so honored. 774 00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:19,427 I don't wanna take a commission off this sale. 775 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:23,388 And next thing I knew, 776 00:38:23,431 --> 00:38:29,959 there was an article in the "Medium" 777 00:38:30,003 --> 00:38:35,313 accusing me of extorting the mother of Richard Spencer. 778 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:43,712 And the shock, 779 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:50,240 the absolute blindsided shock, 780 00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:54,941 of that was crazy. 781 00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:59,424 So we held our breath for a little moment 782 00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:02,427 after that "Medium" article came out, 783 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:06,213 but then, bam, 784 00:39:06,256 --> 00:39:11,392 a Nazi named Andrew Anglin took notice of this article. 785 00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:16,745 I showed up on "The Daily Stormer" website, 786 00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:21,968 my face with a Jewish star on my forehead 787 00:39:22,011 --> 00:39:26,886 and a call of action to attack my family. 788 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:31,717 He essentially said, "Okay, Family"-- 789 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,373 is what he calls his 300,000 followers-- 790 00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:39,072 "Let's show this Jewish real estate agent 791 00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:40,813 what we think of her." 792 00:39:42,205 --> 00:39:47,428 And within an hour of that going live, 793 00:39:47,472 --> 00:39:53,086 we were bombarded with the most vile hate 794 00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:57,830 you can ever imagine rolling into somebody's life. 795 00:39:58,744 --> 00:40:04,227 When I say text messages, I don't mean a couple a day. 796 00:40:04,271 --> 00:40:07,970 I mean hundreds a day. 797 00:40:16,065 --> 00:40:19,025 - The phone calls flooded into my husband's law office. 798 00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:46,792 - They stole my pictures, and then they manipulated them, 799 00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:53,668 and they put daggers through my neck 800 00:40:53,712 --> 00:40:59,369 and put my son and I 801 00:40:59,413 --> 00:41:02,677 superimposed on the gates to Auschwitz. 802 00:41:03,939 --> 00:41:06,855 My son was 12. 803 00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:10,206 Their intention was to drive me to the brink of suicide. 804 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,557 That's what a lot of their messages said. 805 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,778 "We don't have to--we don't even have to be there. 806 00:41:16,822 --> 00:41:18,737 We don't even have to touch you to kill you." 807 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:25,700 ♪ 808 00:41:27,746 --> 00:41:30,879 My husband said, "We've gotta go. 809 00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:32,577 "We've gotta-- we've got to pack. 810 00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:35,797 We gotta go," and I said, "Where are we going? 811 00:41:35,841 --> 00:41:37,886 What do we do?" Like, where--where do we go? 812 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:40,280 And he--all he could say is, "I don't know. 813 00:41:40,323 --> 00:41:41,673 I don't know, I don't know." 814 00:41:41,716 --> 00:41:42,674 To every question I asked-- 815 00:41:42,717 --> 00:41:43,631 I'm like, "What is this?" 816 00:41:43,675 --> 00:41:45,111 "I don't know." 817 00:41:45,154 --> 00:41:47,461 "Should--should I-- should I wake the kids?" 818 00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:49,724 "I don't know." 819 00:41:49,768 --> 00:41:52,292 "Are we packing for a long time or a short time?" 820 00:41:52,901 --> 00:41:54,250 "I don't know." "Where are we going?" 821 00:41:54,294 --> 00:41:56,557 "I don't know." And I--I finally said, 822 00:41:56,601 --> 00:41:58,646 "Am I--should I wake the kids right now? 823 00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:00,605 "Like, are we running in the middle of the night 824 00:42:00,648 --> 00:42:02,345 "because we're Jewish? 825 00:42:02,389 --> 00:42:03,782 "I mean, is this really happening? 826 00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:07,176 "Like--like, tell me this isn't happening. 827 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,874 "Is this really happening? 828 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:12,834 "Are we really waking the kids in the middle of the night 829 00:42:12,878 --> 00:42:16,446 and packing these bags and running for our lives?" 830 00:42:18,318 --> 00:42:22,104 And we just cried. 831 00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:26,892 We just cried out of just complete fear and shock 832 00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:29,764 over all of these messages. 833 00:42:29,808 --> 00:42:34,290 And just seeing my face with a Jewish star 834 00:42:34,334 --> 00:42:37,380 on a neo-Nazi website saying go get her. 835 00:42:39,034 --> 00:42:42,211 We had no idea if they were literally on our way-- 836 00:42:42,255 --> 00:42:45,606 on their way to our house right then. 837 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:51,351 We just didn't know, and it was late at night, 838 00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:54,963 and we eventually just, like, out of shock and fear, 839 00:42:55,007 --> 00:42:56,225 just cried 840 00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:59,794 and fell asleep for about an hour, 841 00:42:59,838 --> 00:43:04,799 and then the phone started ringing and ringing. 842 00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:06,453 And, like, in the middle of the night, 843 00:43:06,496 --> 00:43:09,978 we answered the phone, and it was-- 844 00:43:10,022 --> 00:43:12,590 we were being doxed. 845 00:43:19,248 --> 00:43:21,947 - After receiving more than 700 threats, 846 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:25,037 Tanya and her husband were contacted by Morris Dees, 847 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,083 who wanted to help them fight back. 848 00:43:28,127 --> 00:43:31,913 - When Southern Poverty Law Center 849 00:43:31,957 --> 00:43:36,614 sat down with my husband and I and--and said 850 00:43:36,657 --> 00:43:43,359 "If you want to be our plaintiff, we can win," 851 00:43:43,403 --> 00:43:47,146 And I said, "Sign me up." 852 00:43:47,189 --> 00:43:49,017 - Tanya Gersh filed a federal lawsuit 853 00:43:49,061 --> 00:43:50,584 in April of 2017, 854 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,847 claiming Andrew Anglin had used his site 855 00:43:52,891 --> 00:43:55,154 to launch a troll storm against her. 856 00:43:55,850 --> 00:44:02,378 - We were able just to send an incredibly loud message 857 00:44:02,422 --> 00:44:07,732 to his followers that this would not be tolerated. 858 00:44:07,775 --> 00:44:11,257 - We need more free speech. We need robust platforms. 859 00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:14,216 [soft music] 860 00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:15,914 ♪ 861 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:18,481 Sometimes that speech is gonna be trolling. 862 00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:21,310 Sometimes that speech might get a little mean or nasty. 863 00:44:21,354 --> 00:44:23,922 That's okay. 864 00:44:23,965 --> 00:44:26,402 We can deal with it. It's just words. 865 00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:28,143 But the fact is, I'm willing to put up 866 00:44:28,187 --> 00:44:30,058 with all of those bad things 867 00:44:30,102 --> 00:44:33,235 so that we can have a public platform for ideas. 868 00:44:33,279 --> 00:44:36,891 ♪ 869 00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:38,806 - Today federal magistrate Jeremiah Lynch 870 00:44:38,850 --> 00:44:40,678 ruled in favor of Gersh, 871 00:44:40,721 --> 00:44:43,376 saying Anglin must pay $14 million 872 00:44:43,419 --> 00:44:46,945 for Gersh's lost wages, damages, pain, and suffering. 873 00:44:46,988 --> 00:44:48,337 - The Southern Poverty Law Center 874 00:44:48,381 --> 00:44:50,122 says the ruling shows 875 00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:54,039 that this type of conduct is intolerable in a civil society. 876 00:44:54,082 --> 00:44:58,783 - These aren't schoolboys that are bullying me. 877 00:44:59,522 --> 00:45:04,614 These are Nazis that I didn't even know existed 878 00:45:04,658 --> 00:45:06,312 in our country. 879 00:45:06,355 --> 00:45:10,925 I had no clue that people actually still felt like this. 880 00:45:12,405 --> 00:45:15,364 I thought we had so won this war. 881 00:45:15,408 --> 00:45:18,106 - When you think about much of the extreme right, 882 00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:20,543 anti-Semitism is at its core. 883 00:45:20,587 --> 00:45:25,157 If you know the anti-Semitic themes, 884 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,987 you can recognize them in many conspiracy theories. 885 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:33,469 QAnon, 5G, the COVID vaccine. 886 00:45:33,513 --> 00:45:35,341 All of these have veins running through them 887 00:45:35,384 --> 00:45:36,951 about a secret cabal 888 00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:40,085 looking to take over the world and run people's lives. 889 00:45:40,781 --> 00:45:42,870 - Give me an ideology, and I will tell you 890 00:45:42,914 --> 00:45:45,307 how I can subvert it 891 00:45:45,351 --> 00:45:49,659 and I can use it as a weapon to influence people 892 00:45:49,703 --> 00:45:52,184 and do it under the guise of something 893 00:45:52,227 --> 00:45:56,841 that is generally great philosophies. 894 00:45:56,884 --> 00:46:00,975 Christianity, peace, love, all great things. 895 00:46:01,019 --> 00:46:05,327 Then you throw these ideologies into it and twist it a little, 896 00:46:05,371 --> 00:46:09,854 and suddenly, well, you know, Jews are evil. 897 00:46:09,897 --> 00:46:12,813 [dramatic music] 898 00:46:12,857 --> 00:46:14,815 ♪ 899 00:46:14,859 --> 00:46:17,862 [crowd cheering] 900 00:46:17,905 --> 00:46:19,472 The shame of it is, 901 00:46:19,515 --> 00:46:25,304 there were enough good people at that event 902 00:46:25,347 --> 00:46:30,744 that they could have said, "No, you're not doing this." 903 00:46:31,049 --> 00:46:33,007 - It's my house! 904 00:46:33,051 --> 00:46:35,618 all: USA! USA! USA! 905 00:46:35,662 --> 00:46:39,274 - But that's what happens when the mob mentality takes hold. 906 00:46:39,318 --> 00:46:42,625 ♪ 907 00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:45,933 I will always count that day 908 00:46:45,977 --> 00:46:48,414 as one of the lowest points in our nation's history. 909 00:46:48,457 --> 00:46:55,377 ♪ 910 00:46:56,335 --> 00:46:57,858 - On the next episode 911 00:46:57,902 --> 00:47:00,513 of "Indivisible: Healing Hate." 912 00:47:00,556 --> 00:47:02,080 - Randy Weaver has been holed up 913 00:47:02,123 --> 00:47:04,473 in this remote mountain cabin in Idaho. 914 00:47:04,517 --> 00:47:06,432 - A deadly standoff 915 00:47:06,475 --> 00:47:10,784 becomes a rallying cry for the far right. 916 00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:15,484 - You are his enemy and you will never receive us 917 00:47:15,528 --> 00:47:18,052 in your hands again, 918 00:47:18,096 --> 00:47:20,620 - If you were anti-government, it was all the confirmation 919 00:47:20,663 --> 00:47:23,928 you needed that the militarized police force 920 00:47:23,971 --> 00:47:27,540 of the federal super state was coming for you. 921 00:47:27,583 --> 00:47:28,933 - You're gonna burn in hell.