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Most killers get a thrill
from murdering their victims.
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This one wants to
make them suffer.
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He wants to watch his victims
crawl away in agony.
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This is blood lust.
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He would pick on victims
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who were much smaller
that he was,
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just stabbing them
over and over.
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What makes this killer
so twisted
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is that he didn't set out
to be a killer at all.
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For him, inflicting pain
and suffering on his victims
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is enough in and of itself.
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In 2010, you know,
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Flint was a little over
100,000 population.
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Financially,
Flint was in a downward spiral.
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Flint is full of
very generous, kind,
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"I'll give you the shirt
off my back" kind of people.
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Now, it's not necessarily
people who have a lot,
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because it's a working-class
environment.
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And because of unemployment,
folks were taking out
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their frustrations
with violence.
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So it's 6:00 a.m. on Friday,
July 30th.
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A waste management driver
is making his rounds
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and he is near this hotel
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off a busy roadway in the area
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and notices what he thinks
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is someone sleeping the night
off next to a dumpster.
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And he realizes that
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that person is actually dead.
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And so he calls 911.
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I was the detective
that was on call at the time.
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I proceeded to the scene.
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In the driveway of
the Italian Gardens Restaurant,
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I observed a pool of blood
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and a Black male.
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It appeared that it was
a single stab wound
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to the chest just underneath
the breast bone.
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And then a deep one
on his wrist
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and through his hand.
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From the edge of the roadway
on Miller Road,
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there was a steady blood trail
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that led directly
to where the body was found
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laying in front
of the Italian Gardens.
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The blood trail
was just heavy.
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There were spots everywhere.
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He had lost a lot of blood.
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It appears that he was
attacked and stabbed
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right on the edge
of the shoulder of the road.
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He made it approximately
60 yards or 181 feet
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before he collapsed and died.
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Next to the victim
was this white grocery bag
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that had some food items.
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Two 20-ounce bottles
of Coca-Cola, pain medicine,
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and a prepared turkey
and cheese sandwich.
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We discovered he still had
his wallet on him.
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Nothing appeared
to have been taken.
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So there was no indication
that he had been robbed.
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I had my officers begin
searching bushes, trash cans,
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everywhere for any possible
further evidence
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any weapons
could have been used
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to commit this homicide.
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They did not discover
anything.
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The victim still had
his wallet on him,
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so this probably
wasn't a robbery
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or if it was,
it was interrupted.
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More likely, though,
because it was a stabbing,
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it was personal.
This may have been committed
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by somebody who had a grudge
against the victim.
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Whenever you use a knife
with this amount of velocity
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with multiple stab wounds
to the chest,
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your intention--
it's not to hurt or...
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you are trying
to kill someone.
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But there's something different
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about this crime scene.
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There's a fairly long
trail of blood.
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This victim stumbled away.
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Why didn't the killer
pursue him?
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It could tell us
that the killer
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was maybe interrupted
by someone or something,
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or it could tell us
that the killer stayed
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and watched this person
bleed out.
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And if that is in fact
the case,
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what kind of person
would do that,
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would stand there
and watch their victim die?
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They found a form
of identification on him,
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a bus pass,
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And it showed that he was
60-year-old Frank Kellybrew.
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Mr. Kellybrew's sister
was notified.
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She was horrified to find out
that her brother
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had been murdered,
stabbed to death.
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His sister told us that he
was a General Motors employee.
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He was laid off,
fell on hard times,
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and was living at the time
at the Home Town Inn.
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The Home Town inn was only
a couple hundred yards
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from where his body
was located.
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We wanted to interview anybody
that's at the motel
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that may have
witnessed something
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or knew Mr. Kellybrew.
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According to people
who had been
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at the Home Town Inn,
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Kellybrew kept to himself,
wasn't a lot of trouble,
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and got along with the people
he came in contact with.
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From the crime scene,
we knew Mr. Kellybrew
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had purchased some food items
from the Speedway gas station.
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We checked the gas station
surveillance video,
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and I observed Mr. Kellybrew
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coming in, wearing
the exact same clothing
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that he was found in
when he was deceased.
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Same hat. Same jacket.
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He comes in
at approximately 3:14 a.m.,
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and he's seen at the counter
purchasing those exact items,
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and then he leaves, going out
the doors at 3:21 a.m.
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We believe he was probably
attacked and stabbed
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on his way back to the motel.
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The next day while detective
Kimes is investigating
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the Frank Kellybrew murder,
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I get called in for another
stabbing on Clover Lawn Street.
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It was just after 2:30 a.m.
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The victim was transported
to Hurley Medical Center.
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Paramedics told us the
victim was at E'twan Wilson,
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a 17-year-old resident
of the City of Flint.
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When I arrived on scene,
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there is a pink backpack
laying in the street,
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and then
there is blood droplets,
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but the pools of blood
start becoming larger
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as if he had been bleeding more
profusely as he ran for help.
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We spoke to the homeowner
of the house that he ran to,
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and she described being awoken
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by someone
or screaming for help.
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He collapsed inside her
front door and she called 911.
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There was no indication
that there was a robbery.
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There were personal effects
that were left behind
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such as the backpack
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that had some electronic
equipment inside of it.
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It seemed to be
just total random.
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I mean, it was just a random,
brutal attack.
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Meanwhile,
we received information
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from the doctors at Hurley
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that we can't talk to
E'twan Wilson at that time
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because he's in surgery.
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The stab wound
was very close to the heart.
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He was critical condition
and could possibly die.
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Just one night after
the Frank Kellybrew murder,
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having another stabbing
the very next day--
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it was very unusual
for our city.
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But we did not have any reason
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to connect the two crimes
at that time.
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The next morning between
2:30 and 3:00 in the morning
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I get a phone call,
wakes me up,
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and the desk sergeant tells me
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that we have yet another
stabbing in the City of Flint.
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I was shocked.
That's the third one.
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Once we realized that there
was actually a pattern,
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things really started
to steamroll a lot faster.
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Each case, the knife
was plunged into the abdomen
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and the victims were all
left laying in the street.
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The number of stabbings
increased very quickly
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and I thought we had a serial
killer in the City of Flint.
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Just one night
after Frank Kellybrew
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was murdered in Flint Township,
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the City of Flint
was also investigating
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the critical stabbing
of E'twan Wilson.
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The next morning
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between 2:30 and 3:00
in the morning,
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the desk sergeant tells me that
we have a homicide in the city.
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Another stabbing.
The third one.
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The victim was then
transported to the hospital.
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He was stabbed twice,
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once in the chest
and once in the side.
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In the ambulance, all he was
able to say at that time
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was that it was a white guy
who stabbed him.
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Upon arrival at
Hurley Medical Center,
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he was pronounced dead.
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I report to the crime scene
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and we have blood drops
leading
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from one part of the street.
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Along the curb is where
the blood trail began,
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and then the blood trail
went into traffic lanes
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and then back over to the curb,
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and there was a large
pool of blood
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where I was told
that the victim was found.
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We found his wallet,
so it just did not appear
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that this was a robbery.
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The victim's name
is Arnold Minor.
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I mean, he was 50 years old.
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There were similarities
to the E'twan Wilson case
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and the Frank Kellybrew case,
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but there's no clues on scene
of who did this.
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The only information
that we had was
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that he was stabbed
twice by a white guy.
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That afternoon I went to
Mr. Minor's mother's house
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to tell them that their
family member was deceased.
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Mr. Minor had a family
that loved him,
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and they were in shock
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that this
could have happened to him.
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Mrs. Minor tells me that
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Arnold was at a family
gathering at her house
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and when it was time to go,
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his sister
offered to drive him.
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But he declined that offer
and wanted to walk...
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And that's when he was stabbed
at about 2:00 a.m.
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We found out that
Husseem's Market,
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which is about
a block and a half
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to the south
of our crime scene
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has a video camera
that records the street
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in front of his business.
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So, watching the video
I viewed a vehicle
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come into frame, turn around,
go back the direction it came,
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and then a couple minutes
later speed off.
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That seemed
very suspicious to me.
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This vehicle was a Blazer-type
SUV, dark-colored on top.
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This could be our suspect
that had stabbed Mr. Minor.
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From the camera's
security footage,
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we believe
that Arnold Minor was killed
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between 2:10 and 2:30
in the morning.
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Stabbings
are not very common.
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So to have multiple stabbings
of Black men
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in close proximity
in very similar circumstances
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just being found on the street
was very unusual.
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On the morning
of August 2nd,
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I was driving to work
and heard on the radio
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and about
Arnold Minor's stabbing.
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We don't have that
many stabbings in the area.
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So I wanted to follow up,
just see if it's similar
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or related to
the Frank Kellybrew homicide.
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I called and found out
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that Detective Golden
was in charge of it.
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I spoke to Detective Kimes
over the phone
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and discovered that
his homicide was consistent
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with E'twan Wilson
and the Arnold Minor stabbing.
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Each case was a stabbing.
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Each case, the knife was
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plunged into the abdomen...
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and the victims were all left
lying in the street.
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The light bulb went off
at we may have a problem here.
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One stabbing you could argue
it might be a personal argument
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between two people,
but now multiple stabbings,
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it's not personal.
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Now, they're looking
for a stranger.
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Who knows who it is and why
is this person doing this?
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Investigators can now stop
looking necessarily
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at who the victims knew
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and can start looking
at the patterns of victimology.
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Why were these people
in particular chosen
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by this killer to fulfill
whatever their motive might be?
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So now investigators
are looking for patterns.
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We have Black males,
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the time of day, location,
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weapon.
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Is it possible
that the same suspect
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could have been involved
in each scene?
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The more information you have,
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the more that pattern
starts to come alive
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and you start
to develop a suspect.
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♪
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We had very little evidence.
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We had a White male,
an SUV, and that's it.
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All of these victims
were Black men.
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So we didn't know
if this was a hate crime,
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but then we got a big break
in the case.
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I was contacted
by Hurley Medical Center
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that E'twan Wilson
was alert and conscious
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and that we could go
speak to him
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about possibly
who stabbed him.
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This could lead us
to our suspect.
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We have three stabbings
in the City of Flint.
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Two were fatal.
One survived it.
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We had some discussion there.
Maybe we have the same person
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or persons
doing these stabbings.
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One of the survivors
of an attack,
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E'twan Wilson received
several stab wounds
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and underwent surgery
to repair the wounds
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in and around his heart,
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and he received 40 stitches.
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He was hurt really bad.
Very lucky to be alive.
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Once he's out of surgery
and regains consciousness,
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I went to Hurley Medical Center
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to speak to him
about what happened.
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It's a blessing for me
to be here, 'cause I--
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I didn't--I didn't make it
once I arrived to the hospital,
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but, you know, they, um,
the, um...
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the staff that they had
was able to pull me together
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and, you know,
bring me back to life.
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They told me I died twice.
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E'twan described to us
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that he was walking
down the street
291
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about 2:30 in the morning
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when a dark-colored SUV
drove up.
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The suspect
exited the vehicle
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and asked him
where Pearson Road was.
295
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So he said Pearson Road
is right there.
296
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But as the suspect
is asking these questions,
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he's walking closer to him,
298
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and then he sees a knife
to his right hand,
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and then the suspect
begins to stab him.
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He reported
when he was stabbed
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he was actually
lifted off the ground.
302
00:16:45,767 --> 00:16:49,767
The attacker got back into
his vehicle and drove away.
303
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E'twan did not know the person
that had done this.
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He described his attacker
as a male White 6'1" to 6"2",
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very large built,
late 20s to early 30s,
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clean-shaven,
wearing a ball cap.
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The attacker was described
by E'twan
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as driving a green gold-ish
SUV Chevy Blazer
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similar to the vehicle seen
in the surveillance video
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in the Arnold Minor murder.
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So I go back to the station
and I run a report
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to give me all of
the felony assaults in the city
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that had occurred
within the last few months
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to find those
that involve a knife.
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Over a little more
than a two-month time period
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between May and August,
317
00:17:47,974 --> 00:17:52,077
I determined there were 11
stabbings in the City of Flint.
318
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I was shocked to see that there
had been so many stabbings
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resulting in five homicides.
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I had a case on May 24, 2010,
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where David Motley was stabbed
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and had died from his wounds.
323
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And believe that
that may also be tied into
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the series of stabbings
that we had in the city.
325
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Less than a month
after David Motley's murder,
326
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on June 21st there
was another stabbing
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that we had responded to,
and we discovered
328
00:18:27,939 --> 00:18:32,939
that Emmanuel Muhammad
had lost his life.
329
00:18:32,974 --> 00:18:35,491
And then
another month before,
330
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Darwin Marshall was killed.
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Five people had been
murdered,
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had been stabbed
in just three months,
333
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and police didn't have
any suspects at this point.
334
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But then I start to see
a pattern forming.
335
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All of the survivors
of the attacks
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said they were walking alone
at night.
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00:18:59,008 --> 00:19:05,077
Most of them were on main roads
or just off of a main road.
338
00:19:06,008 --> 00:19:08,698
The attacks took place
after midnight
339
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usually between
2:00 and 6:00 a.m.
340
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They are being approached
by an unknown
341
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white male suspect in a
dark-colored SUV-type vehicle.
342
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It appears like he's...
stabbing them for sport.
343
00:19:28,974 --> 00:19:33,732
I went to my Lieutenant
and told him that I thought
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we had a serial killer
in the City of Flint.
345
00:19:39,008 --> 00:19:40,939
For most serial killers,
346
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the killing is the actual goal.
347
00:19:43,525 --> 00:19:45,491
It's the ultimate
act of control.
348
00:19:45,525 --> 00:19:47,491
They enjoy playing God
349
00:19:47,525 --> 00:19:50,836
and actually taking life
from an individual.
350
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:52,801
But for this killer,
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00:19:52,836 --> 00:19:56,111
their motive
and their MO is very different.
352
00:19:56,146 --> 00:19:58,732
So many victims
were left alive.
353
00:19:58,767 --> 00:20:01,836
Typically, a serial killer
will finish the job
354
00:20:01,870 --> 00:20:04,594
and not run the risk
that victims are left
355
00:20:04,629 --> 00:20:07,836
to identify him.
So why would this guy
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00:20:07,870 --> 00:20:10,939
let so many victims
literally walk away?
357
00:20:10,974 --> 00:20:14,767
The actual stabbing
seems to be enough.
358
00:20:14,801 --> 00:20:16,836
Some of their victims die
359
00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:20,698
and that's
just sort of a by-product,
360
00:20:20,732 --> 00:20:24,146
but he likes the actual
stabbing itself.
361
00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:25,939
It makes you think
362
00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:28,043
that this person is enraged.
363
00:20:28,077 --> 00:20:29,836
He is hunting them.
364
00:20:29,870 --> 00:20:33,663
He doesn't care whether or not
they die or survive.
365
00:20:33,698 --> 00:20:35,939
He is just on a mission.
366
00:20:35,974 --> 00:20:40,456
He is out to hurt
and maim Black men.
367
00:20:42,111 --> 00:20:44,801
Once we realized that there
was actually a pattern
368
00:20:44,836 --> 00:20:48,249
and a vehicle description
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00:20:48,284 --> 00:20:50,594
and the physical description
of the assailant,
370
00:20:50,629 --> 00:20:53,870
things really started
to steamroll a lot faster.
371
00:20:53,905 --> 00:20:55,939
We had a big problem
on our hands
372
00:20:55,974 --> 00:20:59,180
and we had to do
something about it.
373
00:20:59,215 --> 00:21:02,043
So essentially a task force
was formed.
374
00:21:02,077 --> 00:21:05,732
I was assigned to be
in charge of the task force
375
00:21:05,767 --> 00:21:09,077
investigating
the serial stabber case.
376
00:21:10,215 --> 00:21:15,077
We had, I believe, 25, 26
investigators assigned to it
377
00:21:15,111 --> 00:21:18,318
and started the investigation
from there.
378
00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:22,422
The task force made
an announcement to the public
379
00:21:22,456 --> 00:21:26,284
that they believed
someone was targeting men,
380
00:21:26,318 --> 00:21:29,008
stabbing them, and that
the public needed to be aware
381
00:21:29,043 --> 00:21:31,870
that someone was out there
hunting victims.
382
00:21:31,905 --> 00:21:34,594
Victims were able to provide
what they remembered
383
00:21:34,629 --> 00:21:37,594
and an MSP forensic,
a sketch artist,
384
00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,974
was able to compile that sketch
385
00:21:42,698 --> 00:21:46,353
The task force released
this composite sketch
386
00:21:46,387 --> 00:21:48,525
to the local media
387
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:55,249
and that our suspect
was driving a dark-colored SUV.
388
00:21:55,284 --> 00:21:57,905
The news dubbed him
the Serial Stabber.
389
00:21:57,939 --> 00:22:01,146
When police started
vocalizing
390
00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:03,284
who the victims were
391
00:22:03,318 --> 00:22:05,146
and what they all
had in common,
392
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:07,836
being smaller Black males,
393
00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:09,801
of course
the community was wondering
394
00:22:09,836 --> 00:22:12,111
if this was racially motivated.
395
00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:16,318
The city was just paralyzed
by this guy.
396
00:22:16,353 --> 00:22:18,836
The city was just on lockdown.
397
00:22:21,836 --> 00:22:23,836
After the formation
of the task force,
398
00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:25,215
there were no other stabbings.
399
00:22:25,249 --> 00:22:28,111
All of our stabbings in Flint
had suddenly stopped.
400
00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:31,974
We had gone from
a stabbing every day
401
00:22:32,008 --> 00:22:33,939
for seven or eight days
straight
402
00:22:33,974 --> 00:22:36,456
to absolutely no stabbings,
which was a good thing.
403
00:22:36,491 --> 00:22:38,491
We didn't want
any more stabbings,
404
00:22:38,525 --> 00:22:41,008
but we didn't know why
405
00:22:41,043 --> 00:22:44,180
there was a sudden change
in what was happening.
406
00:22:50,146 --> 00:22:52,767
He knew we were onto him
and he's on the run,
407
00:22:52,801 --> 00:22:56,698
but he was still
going around stabbing people.
408
00:22:56,732 --> 00:22:59,905
I was yelling at the top
of my lungs, "Oh, my God.
409
00:22:59,939 --> 00:23:03,008
Somebody help me.
I'm bleeding."
410
00:23:03,043 --> 00:23:05,732
Well, we were obviously
first and foremost concerned
411
00:23:05,767 --> 00:23:08,008
that he was running away.
412
00:23:08,043 --> 00:23:10,629
He potentially
could take hostages.
413
00:23:10,663 --> 00:23:12,905
He could potentially
hijack the plane.
414
00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,043
On Monday morning,
August 9th,
415
00:23:21,077 --> 00:23:22,284
we received a call
416
00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:25,387
from the Leesburg Virginia
Police Department.
417
00:23:25,422 --> 00:23:28,732
A detective from Leesburg,
Virginia,
418
00:23:28,767 --> 00:23:32,146
had seen
national news coverage
419
00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:34,698
about our stabbings in Flint.
420
00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:39,111
They had had three stabbings
421
00:23:39,146 --> 00:23:41,629
within a two, three day
period of time
422
00:23:41,663 --> 00:23:44,180
that were very similar
to the stabbings
423
00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:46,732
that we were investigating
in the City of Flint.
424
00:23:49,215 --> 00:23:54,249
Starting on August 3rd
running until August 6th,
425
00:23:54,284 --> 00:23:56,422
we had three separate attacks
426
00:23:56,456 --> 00:24:01,422
where individuals were stabbed
or attempted to be stabbed.
427
00:24:01,456 --> 00:24:04,215
On August 3rd about 9:30
in the evening,
428
00:24:04,249 --> 00:24:06,905
a young male was jogging
429
00:24:06,939 --> 00:24:09,180
in the business area
of Leesburg, Virginia.
430
00:24:11,215 --> 00:24:13,698
I was running down
Plaza Street,
431
00:24:13,732 --> 00:24:16,767
and I come across this car.
432
00:24:16,801 --> 00:24:20,836
It was dark green in color.
I just ran past him.
433
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:24,215
Didn't pay the man
coming out of the car any mind.
434
00:24:24,249 --> 00:24:26,974
It's only when
he walked up on me
435
00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:29,215
was when I actually realized
436
00:24:29,249 --> 00:24:32,387
that he had a knife
in his hand.
437
00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:38,387
He stabbed his knife
into my lower right side.
438
00:24:38,422 --> 00:24:42,111
I instantly turned,
I see him sprinting away,
439
00:24:42,146 --> 00:24:43,905
and then I touched my back,
440
00:24:43,939 --> 00:24:46,939
and it was
an actual gaping wound.
441
00:24:49,387 --> 00:24:53,215
My body immediately
went into danger mode.
442
00:24:55,146 --> 00:24:57,284
I ran to the nearby
gas station.
443
00:24:57,318 --> 00:24:59,353
I was yelling at the top
of my lungs like,
444
00:24:59,387 --> 00:25:03,077
"Oh, my God.
Somebody help me. I'm bleeding.
445
00:25:03,111 --> 00:25:07,422
There's like a guy out there.
He's trying to kill me."
446
00:25:09,111 --> 00:25:11,077
Next thing I know,
I grew very tired.
447
00:25:11,111 --> 00:25:13,043
I grew very weak.
448
00:25:15,663 --> 00:25:21,284
And then I think at the last
minute something told me no,
449
00:25:21,318 --> 00:25:25,422
you need to live.
You need to stay alive.
450
00:25:26,663 --> 00:25:28,732
And that's when
the paramedics came.
451
00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:40,008
A few days later
at about 6:15
452
00:25:40,043 --> 00:25:42,836
on the morning of August 5th,
453
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:46,698
Leesburg Police found
that a 67-year-old male
454
00:25:46,732 --> 00:25:50,732
was stabbed by a subject.
455
00:25:53,111 --> 00:25:55,560
And then the evening
of August 6th,
456
00:25:55,594 --> 00:25:58,594
a young male was attacked.
457
00:25:58,629 --> 00:26:00,422
A vehicle approached him.
458
00:26:00,456 --> 00:26:04,422
The operator inquired
whether he would--
459
00:26:04,456 --> 00:26:08,284
our victim would assist him
with some mechanical problems.
460
00:26:08,318 --> 00:26:10,077
As our victim
was looking inside,
461
00:26:10,111 --> 00:26:12,077
in his peripheral vision
462
00:26:12,111 --> 00:26:15,698
he saw the suspect
starting to attack him.
463
00:26:17,939 --> 00:26:21,318
All of our victims survive.
All three provided a very,
464
00:26:21,353 --> 00:26:25,215
very similar description
of the suspect.
465
00:26:25,249 --> 00:26:30,180
A very large
White-skinned male
466
00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:34,008
and the vehicle descriptions
that we had were
467
00:26:34,043 --> 00:26:37,353
a dark green vehicle
with a lighter bottom.
468
00:26:39,077 --> 00:26:42,077
The three stabbings
in Leesburg
469
00:26:42,111 --> 00:26:47,180
fit the MO and circumstances
of our stabbings
470
00:26:47,215 --> 00:26:49,111
that had occurred in Flint.
471
00:26:49,146 --> 00:26:51,077
The timing of these
stabbings would indicate
472
00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:54,491
that he had left the
City of Flint after August 2nd,
473
00:26:54,525 --> 00:26:56,836
the homicide of Arnold Minor,
474
00:26:56,870 --> 00:27:00,249
and then committed three
stabbings in Leesburg, Virginia
475
00:27:00,284 --> 00:27:02,594
during the following week.
476
00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:07,560
If it was one person,
it helped to explain
477
00:27:07,594 --> 00:27:11,836
why all of our stabbings
in Flint had suddenly stopped.
478
00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:18,284
But then after the stabbing
in Leesburg, Virginia,
479
00:27:18,318 --> 00:27:21,146
on August 7 of 2010,
480
00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:24,215
the taskforce received a call
from the Chief of Police
481
00:27:24,249 --> 00:27:27,077
from the Toledo Ohio
Police Department
482
00:27:27,111 --> 00:27:29,043
who said they had had
483
00:27:29,077 --> 00:27:32,284
a stabbing
near a church in their city,
484
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:35,353
and it appeared
to be connected.
485
00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:39,284
If he's left Leesburg
and now in Toledo,
486
00:27:39,318 --> 00:27:42,767
that is a direct route
between Leesburg and Flint.
487
00:27:42,801 --> 00:27:46,215
It suggests he may be
on his way back to Flint.
488
00:27:48,318 --> 00:27:51,870
The fact that this killer
is now on the move
489
00:27:51,905 --> 00:27:53,870
in some ways
changes the profile.
490
00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:55,870
Many of these crimes,
491
00:27:55,905 --> 00:27:59,353
these stabbings up until this
point seemed a bit sloppy,
492
00:27:59,387 --> 00:28:03,215
not very well thought through,
and at times random.
493
00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:07,146
But you now have an individual
who as soon as investigators
494
00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:11,698
start to sort of
get on his tail, he leaves.
495
00:28:11,732 --> 00:28:16,215
And that's a very calculated,
planned-out move from someone
496
00:28:16,249 --> 00:28:19,043
who, up until this point,
did not present in that way.
497
00:28:19,077 --> 00:28:21,491
There's a good chance
this is the same person.
498
00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:25,284
Why Virginia and why Leesburg?
499
00:28:25,318 --> 00:28:28,008
Maybe this is
a safe zone for him.
500
00:28:28,043 --> 00:28:31,077
This is an area that he knows
and if it is,
501
00:28:31,111 --> 00:28:33,387
then that's a clue
for investigators.
502
00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,663
Now, he's on his way back
to Flint
503
00:28:35,698 --> 00:28:38,146
and the biggest question
is why?
504
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,767
Why are they coming back?
505
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:43,318
There must be a specific reason
for them to go back to an area
506
00:28:43,353 --> 00:28:45,905
where they're essentially
being hunted.
507
00:28:47,525 --> 00:28:51,111
Then we did have a big break
in the case.
508
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:55,249
On the morning of August 11th,
a woman called in.
509
00:28:55,284 --> 00:28:57,870
Her father worked
at the liquor store
510
00:28:57,905 --> 00:29:01,077
just north of
the City of Flint.
511
00:29:01,111 --> 00:29:05,077
Her father had reported
that a man he worked with
512
00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:08,180
had left town
several days earlier
513
00:29:08,215 --> 00:29:11,180
to go visit
his sister in Virginia.
514
00:29:11,215 --> 00:29:14,318
She described that
the composite sketch
515
00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:18,387
that we had circulated in the
media matched his description.
516
00:29:20,146 --> 00:29:23,146
Two detectives
went to the liquor store
517
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:25,215
and found the business
had surveillance cameras
518
00:29:25,249 --> 00:29:27,732
inside as well as outside
519
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:32,249
and the employee there was
able to show the detectives
520
00:29:32,284 --> 00:29:35,422
surveillance footage previously captured
521
00:29:35,456 --> 00:29:40,077
of the person who could be
our potential suspect,
522
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:43,249
and he did seem
to somewhat fit
523
00:29:43,284 --> 00:29:46,215
the description
that we were looking for.
524
00:29:46,249 --> 00:29:48,353
From the employee's records,
525
00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:51,905
we found we only had
at that point a phone number
526
00:29:51,939 --> 00:29:54,422
and the name Elias Abuelazam.
527
00:29:54,456 --> 00:29:55,939
The police have now
identified
528
00:29:55,974 --> 00:29:57,801
their number one suspect,
529
00:29:57,836 --> 00:30:00,180
the person they believe
is the serial stabber.
530
00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:04,180
But can we catch him
before he attacks someone else?
531
00:30:09,146 --> 00:30:12,698
There's been 14 stabbings
in the Flint area.
532
00:30:12,732 --> 00:30:16,077
There are then reported
three stabbings
533
00:30:16,111 --> 00:30:18,318
in Leesburg, Virginia,
534
00:30:18,353 --> 00:30:21,629
and one stabbing
in Toledo, Ohio.
535
00:30:21,663 --> 00:30:24,801
Elias Abuelazam could be
the serial stabber.
536
00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:28,008
He's 33 years old,
537
00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:30,974
living in the City of Flint
on Maryland Avenue.
538
00:30:31,008 --> 00:30:33,525
We ran a criminal history
on him and learned
539
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,077
that he had been arrested
in Leesburg, Virginia,
540
00:30:36,111 --> 00:30:37,698
about a year prior,
541
00:30:37,732 --> 00:30:40,249
and we requested a copy
of that booking photo.
542
00:30:41,387 --> 00:30:44,698
We put that photograph
in a photo lineup.
543
00:30:44,732 --> 00:30:48,387
Investigators go contact
one of our victims
544
00:30:48,422 --> 00:30:51,008
who had given a pretty
good description of him.
545
00:30:52,491 --> 00:30:55,594
So I went to the victim
and told him that we had
546
00:30:55,629 --> 00:30:59,767
a group of photos to show him
547
00:30:59,801 --> 00:31:02,594
and simply asked him
if he recognized anyone
548
00:31:02,629 --> 00:31:05,249
to point that person out to us.
549
00:31:05,284 --> 00:31:10,456
He very quickly pointed out
photo number five
550
00:31:10,491 --> 00:31:13,456
which was a photo
of Elias Abuelazam.
551
00:31:15,836 --> 00:31:18,663
He picked out the photo
of Elias Abuelazam
552
00:31:18,698 --> 00:31:21,043
as the person
who had stabbed him.
553
00:31:24,491 --> 00:31:27,939
We got a search warrant
on Elias's house.
554
00:31:27,974 --> 00:31:31,180
We went inside and did
what you call a walkthrough.
555
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,801
The house was basically
vacant.
556
00:31:35,836 --> 00:31:39,422
There was like a mattress
on the floor.
557
00:31:39,456 --> 00:31:43,491
There was a dryer
but no washer.
558
00:31:45,801 --> 00:31:48,905
We looked extensively
for any knives
559
00:31:48,939 --> 00:31:50,525
that may have had blood
on them
560
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,456
and did not locate any
inside the residence.
561
00:31:55,491 --> 00:31:58,525
While we were executing
the search warrant,
562
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,180
a person came out
of the house next door
563
00:32:01,215 --> 00:32:06,387
and identified himself
as Tony Sahwany.
564
00:32:06,422 --> 00:32:11,284
He owned both houses
and he said his nephew Elias
565
00:32:11,318 --> 00:32:13,732
been living there
for the past three months.
566
00:32:15,525 --> 00:32:18,525
So we informed him
that Elias was the suspect
567
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,974
for the stabbings on the news.
568
00:32:22,008 --> 00:32:26,353
He denied knowledge of what
his nephew had been doing.
569
00:32:26,387 --> 00:32:29,387
We asked him if he knew
where Elias was.
570
00:32:29,422 --> 00:32:32,422
He said he did not know
where he might be located.
571
00:32:32,456 --> 00:32:34,939
Based on the information
that he was giving us,
572
00:32:34,974 --> 00:32:38,077
he was trying to cooperate
with the investigation.
573
00:32:39,629 --> 00:32:43,318
The uncle expressed shock
and disbelief,
574
00:32:43,353 --> 00:32:46,284
but he was very helpful.
575
00:32:46,318 --> 00:32:50,767
We asked Tony Sahwany
about the background of Elias.
576
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,560
He told us
that Elias Abuelazam
577
00:32:55,594 --> 00:33:00,629
was born in a village
known as Ramallah, Israel.
578
00:33:00,663 --> 00:33:02,422
He's an Arab-Christian.
579
00:33:02,456 --> 00:33:06,491
His mother sent him
to the United States.
580
00:33:06,525 --> 00:33:10,215
He lived with his sister
and her family in Leesburg
581
00:33:10,249 --> 00:33:12,111
for a period of time.
582
00:33:16,905 --> 00:33:20,215
The sister did not want him
to stay in her house.
583
00:33:20,249 --> 00:33:26,284
Elias had been into a fistfight
with his brother-in-law,
584
00:33:26,318 --> 00:33:27,594
so they didn't want him there.
585
00:33:27,629 --> 00:33:30,353
So they said go live
with Uncle Tony.
586
00:33:30,387 --> 00:33:33,146
Maybe he can
straighten you out.
587
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:38,525
So at around May 22, 2010,
he arrived in Flint.
588
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,560
The first stabbing
occurring in Flint
589
00:33:41,594 --> 00:33:45,353
was only two days
after Elias Abuelazam hit town
590
00:33:45,387 --> 00:33:48,353
and only two blocks
from where he was living.
591
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,594
Now, we were asking ourselves
who is he and where is he?
592
00:33:53,629 --> 00:33:55,491
We're trying
to hunt him down.
593
00:33:55,525 --> 00:33:58,594
Well, the FBI's involved
'cause they're looking at
594
00:33:58,629 --> 00:34:01,663
where this guy
could possibly be.
595
00:34:01,698 --> 00:34:05,836
We were pinging his phone,
and for a period of time,
596
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:08,456
we're not receiving
any location or signal
597
00:34:08,491 --> 00:34:10,732
for that phone.
598
00:34:10,767 --> 00:34:14,422
This was the critical edge
of your seat moment, you know.
599
00:34:14,456 --> 00:34:16,698
We knew that he knew
the gig was up.
600
00:34:16,732 --> 00:34:20,077
He knew we were onto him,
and he's on the run.
601
00:34:21,594 --> 00:34:24,249
We were obviously first
and foremost concerned
602
00:34:24,284 --> 00:34:25,525
that he was running away.
603
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,180
He was gonna try
to go into hiding
604
00:34:27,215 --> 00:34:29,422
and we wouldn't be able
to find him.
605
00:34:29,456 --> 00:34:31,525
We're very concerned,
606
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,732
but then we have another
big break in the case.
607
00:34:34,767 --> 00:34:38,801
That our first successful
phone ping puts him
608
00:34:38,836 --> 00:34:41,836
at or near the Louisville
Kentucky Airport.
609
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:44,974
It is an international airport
610
00:34:45,008 --> 00:34:48,284
where he could board a flight
to almost anywhere.
611
00:34:49,767 --> 00:34:52,422
After we got the hit on the
phone in Louisville, Kentucky
612
00:34:52,456 --> 00:34:55,974
then the phone went silent.
We couldn't find it anymore.
613
00:34:56,008 --> 00:35:00,629
We were able to contact
the Federal Department
614
00:35:00,663 --> 00:35:02,836
of Homeland Security
615
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:06,629
and they were able to search
the name Elias Abuelazam
616
00:35:06,663 --> 00:35:09,525
and check flight manifests.
617
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,732
One of the members
of our task force found
618
00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:16,215
that Abuelazam was booked
on a flight out of Atlanta
619
00:35:16,249 --> 00:35:17,629
that evening--
620
00:35:17,663 --> 00:35:20,939
Where he was gonna get
on a plane to Tel Aviv, Israel.
621
00:35:20,974 --> 00:35:26,525
They were only a few hours
for the plans to put in place
622
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,594
to arrange for the safe capture
of this suspect.
623
00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:33,353
Once he's on that plane,
there's all sorts
624
00:35:33,387 --> 00:35:36,249
of other people
who become in harm's way.
625
00:35:36,284 --> 00:35:38,387
He potentially
could take hostages.
626
00:35:38,422 --> 00:35:40,767
He could potentially
hijack the plane.
627
00:35:40,801 --> 00:35:42,422
You don't know
what's gonna happen.
628
00:35:42,456 --> 00:35:44,974
You don't want him
to get on that plane.
629
00:35:48,663 --> 00:35:51,698
Time is running out.
The clock is ticking.
630
00:35:51,732 --> 00:35:55,215
This was a guy who had
killed five people,
631
00:35:55,249 --> 00:35:57,594
attacked 18 people,
632
00:35:57,629 --> 00:36:01,594
and now he's in the busiest
airport in the world.
633
00:36:01,629 --> 00:36:05,215
So we had to arrest him
before he got on that plane.
634
00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:08,387
The task force
sends his picture
635
00:36:08,422 --> 00:36:10,767
to authorities in Georgia,
and there's a note
636
00:36:10,801 --> 00:36:14,732
that says do not
let this man board that plane.
637
00:36:14,767 --> 00:36:18,905
♪
638
00:36:18,939 --> 00:36:22,663
People were literally getting
ready to board the plane.
639
00:36:22,698 --> 00:36:26,077
And then they announced
his name over the loudspeaker.
640
00:36:26,111 --> 00:36:31,318
"“Can Mr. Abuelazam please
come to the podium?"”
641
00:36:31,353 --> 00:36:35,043
And Mr. Abuelazam
comes up there,
642
00:36:35,077 --> 00:36:38,077
and then some plainclothes
officers swoop in...
643
00:36:41,456 --> 00:36:44,180
And they were able
to walk him away from there
644
00:36:44,215 --> 00:36:46,560
and take him into custody.
645
00:36:47,594 --> 00:36:49,560
He did not resist.
646
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:53,008
At the task force headquarters,
647
00:36:53,043 --> 00:36:55,974
there was a cheer that went
throughout the building.
648
00:36:56,008 --> 00:36:57,974
It was a really sweet moment.
649
00:36:58,008 --> 00:37:00,215
But we still didn't know
650
00:37:00,249 --> 00:37:02,594
why somebody would ever
do something like that.
651
00:37:09,077 --> 00:37:12,284
After Elias Abuelazam's
arrest in Atlanta, Georgia,
652
00:37:12,318 --> 00:37:16,905
three detectives went down
there to try to interview him,
653
00:37:16,939 --> 00:37:18,905
but he lawyered up
and did not wanna continue
654
00:37:18,939 --> 00:37:20,387
with the interview
655
00:37:20,422 --> 00:37:24,870
and gave the detectives
no information to go on.
656
00:37:25,939 --> 00:37:30,043
Meanwhile, just by chance,
Abuelazam's luggage was
657
00:37:30,077 --> 00:37:33,284
left at the Louisville Airport
and never made it to Atlanta.
658
00:37:33,318 --> 00:37:36,698
I sent one of the detectives
from the task force
659
00:37:36,732 --> 00:37:38,939
to Louisville
to retrieve that luggage
660
00:37:38,974 --> 00:37:43,077
and then we found some
very significant DNA evidence
661
00:37:43,111 --> 00:37:46,111
on the clothing
from that luggage.
662
00:37:47,905 --> 00:37:52,905
They found small bloodstains
on a pair of blue jeans
663
00:37:52,939 --> 00:37:55,077
and a pair of tennis shoes,
664
00:37:55,111 --> 00:37:58,905
and they were matched
to the DNA of Arnold Minor.
665
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,077
And there was blood found on
the shoelaces from the luggage
666
00:38:05,111 --> 00:38:07,939
that matched Frank Kellybrew.
667
00:38:10,111 --> 00:38:13,698
We charged him with three
counts of first-degree murder
668
00:38:13,732 --> 00:38:16,663
and six counts of assault
with intent to murder.
669
00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:22,318
We believe Abuelazam would
get into his car at night
670
00:38:22,353 --> 00:38:26,077
and drive around the more
desolate parts of Flint
671
00:38:26,111 --> 00:38:30,043
looking for people who
he could stab walking alone,
672
00:38:30,077 --> 00:38:33,146
who were frail,
who couldn't fight back.
673
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:37,077
In each case, his plan
was to lure his victim close
674
00:38:37,111 --> 00:38:40,353
by use of his alleged
broken down vehicle
675
00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:44,284
and then plunge the knife
into their abdomen.
676
00:38:44,318 --> 00:38:45,870
Many of the surviving
victims
677
00:38:45,905 --> 00:38:48,043
reported
that he would stab them,
678
00:38:48,077 --> 00:38:50,491
they would run away,
and he wouldn't chase them.
679
00:38:50,525 --> 00:38:53,077
It's kind of like
"I'll stab you.
680
00:38:53,111 --> 00:38:58,077
Maybe you'll make it.
Maybe you won't."
681
00:38:58,111 --> 00:39:01,008
Based upon where Abuelazam
drove his car
682
00:39:01,043 --> 00:39:02,629
and based upon the fact
683
00:39:02,663 --> 00:39:05,387
that it was during
the deep of night,
684
00:39:05,422 --> 00:39:08,767
I believe he was targeting
African-American men.
685
00:39:10,077 --> 00:39:12,974
Abuelazam never
told his doctor,
686
00:39:13,008 --> 00:39:15,663
his psychiatrist that,
687
00:39:15,698 --> 00:39:18,077
but that's my theory and that's
the theory pretty much
688
00:39:18,111 --> 00:39:22,215
in the community here
back when this was happening.
689
00:39:22,249 --> 00:39:26,043
♪
690
00:39:26,077 --> 00:39:29,111
The defense does not deny
that he did the crimes.
691
00:39:29,146 --> 00:39:32,284
The defense files
an insanity defense,
692
00:39:32,318 --> 00:39:36,077
that he's
a paranoid schizophrenic.
693
00:39:36,111 --> 00:39:38,629
So we made the decision
to just try him
694
00:39:38,663 --> 00:39:41,594
for the murder of
Arnold Minor.
695
00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:44,870
We thought it would be way
too complicated for a jury
696
00:39:44,905 --> 00:39:46,801
to have to sift
through evidence
697
00:39:46,836 --> 00:39:50,249
of all the murders
and potential murders.
698
00:39:50,284 --> 00:39:55,215
And with Arnold Minor,
we had a very strong DNA case
699
00:39:55,249 --> 00:39:58,801
and we had very strong
forensic evidence.
700
00:40:02,767 --> 00:40:04,974
The trial begins
about two years
701
00:40:05,008 --> 00:40:07,836
after the first
alleged murder.
702
00:40:09,008 --> 00:40:11,939
The driving force
behind the allegations
703
00:40:11,974 --> 00:40:15,180
was his paranoid schizophrenia
at play,
704
00:40:15,215 --> 00:40:21,077
but in his words
to the doctors evaluating him,
705
00:40:21,111 --> 00:40:26,594
it was driven by
hearing voices, seeing spirits.
706
00:40:26,629 --> 00:40:29,594
Abuelazam claimed
that once he killed people,
707
00:40:29,629 --> 00:40:31,594
the voices would stop
708
00:40:31,629 --> 00:40:33,836
and the hallucinations
would cease.
709
00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,732
He says the voices
motivated him to kill,
710
00:40:39,767 --> 00:40:41,180
but I'm not really buying it.
711
00:40:41,215 --> 00:40:45,284
There's too much other
intentionality in his acts
712
00:40:45,318 --> 00:40:49,456
and his travels and
seeking out certain victims.
713
00:40:49,491 --> 00:40:53,146
But the question I have is
what did motivate him?
714
00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:55,939
We know that most of
the victims in this case
715
00:40:55,974 --> 00:40:59,836
were African-American Black men
716
00:40:59,870 --> 00:41:04,387
and they were helpless.
717
00:41:04,422 --> 00:41:05,974
They were not provoked.
718
00:41:06,008 --> 00:41:10,077
They were viciously attacked,
and they were left for dead.
719
00:41:10,111 --> 00:41:14,629
How could it not be
a hate crime
720
00:41:14,663 --> 00:41:17,249
against African-American men?
721
00:41:17,284 --> 00:41:19,491
Mass killers generally kill
722
00:41:19,525 --> 00:41:21,525
out of rage or anger
723
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,353
towards a particular group
724
00:41:23,387 --> 00:41:26,008
of people or a specific person.
725
00:41:26,043 --> 00:41:29,111
Serial killers kill for fun.
726
00:41:29,146 --> 00:41:32,629
Elias Abuelazam in many ways
is a hybrid killer.
727
00:41:32,663 --> 00:41:34,836
He had particular rage
towards his victims.
728
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:36,525
That was very clear.
729
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,663
And he chose
a specific typology of victim,
730
00:41:40,698 --> 00:41:42,422
but he also seemed to enjoy it.
731
00:41:42,456 --> 00:41:44,629
He would watch
these people suffer.
732
00:41:44,663 --> 00:41:46,939
He enjoyed inflicting pain
on them.
733
00:41:46,974 --> 00:41:50,594
So he draws from
both categories of mass killer
734
00:41:50,629 --> 00:41:52,215
and serial killer.
735
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:58,008
The trial lasted eight days,
736
00:41:58,043 --> 00:42:03,111
and they came back very quickly
with a verdict of guilty.
737
00:42:03,146 --> 00:42:05,663
Mr. Abuelazam, would you like
to say anything this morning
738
00:42:05,698 --> 00:42:07,249
before sentencing?
739
00:42:09,353 --> 00:42:10,836
All right.
740
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:12,663
Elias Abuelazam, age 35,
has now been convicted
741
00:42:12,698 --> 00:42:16,180
by a jury of first-degree
premeditated murder.
742
00:42:16,215 --> 00:42:19,663
He was sentenced
to the highest punishment
743
00:42:19,698 --> 00:42:21,870
in the State of Michigan.
744
00:42:21,905 --> 00:42:25,043
Life imprisonment
with no chance of parole.
745
00:42:29,043 --> 00:42:32,732
Arnold Minor's family
felt elated
746
00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:34,836
that he had been found guilty,
747
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:38,870
but it still doesn't
bring back their loved one.
748
00:42:38,905 --> 00:42:42,560
For me, I don't think I can
go out at night anymore
749
00:42:42,594 --> 00:42:44,732
without looking
over my shoulder.
750
00:42:44,767 --> 00:42:47,870
I will try to do everything
in the daytime.
751
00:42:47,905 --> 00:42:53,284
I won't do anything
when the sun goes down anymore.
752
00:42:53,318 --> 00:42:55,008
You hear
about serial killers
753
00:42:55,043 --> 00:42:57,974
that sometimes
are never caught.
754
00:42:58,008 --> 00:43:04,215
To discover that we have
a serial killer on August 2nd
755
00:43:04,249 --> 00:43:07,870
and to have that person
in custody nine days later
756
00:43:07,905 --> 00:43:11,974
I think was
a great accomplishment.
757
00:43:12,008 --> 00:43:14,560
I think of Ellis Abuelazam
758
00:43:14,594 --> 00:43:17,008
as a monster.
759
00:43:17,043 --> 00:43:19,008
There's evil in people.
760
00:43:19,043 --> 00:43:21,629
You don't have to be insane
to be evil,
761
00:43:21,663 --> 00:43:25,422
but you can just be plain evil
to the core.