1 00:00:02,146 --> 00:00:04,594 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,629 --> 00:00:06,663 This is a case where a group of young, 3 00:00:06,698 --> 00:00:09,663 vulnerable individuals fall under the power 4 00:00:09,698 --> 00:00:12,974 of a manipulative psychopathic killer. 5 00:00:13,008 --> 00:00:15,215 ♪ 6 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:18,456 A leader who uses fear and intimidation 7 00:00:18,491 --> 00:00:21,801 to maintain absolute control 8 00:00:21,836 --> 00:00:24,732 to commit the ultimate act. 9 00:00:26,249 --> 00:00:31,801 A group of kids turn into a group of sadistic murderers. 10 00:00:33,698 --> 00:00:37,077 If they didn't kill on his order, 11 00:00:37,111 --> 00:00:40,111 he would kill them. 12 00:00:40,146 --> 00:00:43,008 [dramatic music] 13 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:48,594 ♪ 14 00:00:50,146 --> 00:00:53,353 [gentle music] 15 00:00:53,387 --> 00:00:55,387 Well, Chapel Hill is the home 16 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:57,870 of the University of North Carolina, 17 00:00:57,905 --> 00:01:02,456 and it's a quintessential college town. 18 00:01:02,491 --> 00:01:06,974 It's a very progressive, very well-educated area. 19 00:01:07,008 --> 00:01:10,767 But it's still--frankly, it's a pretty small town. 20 00:01:10,801 --> 00:01:12,767 That's why it was so surprising 21 00:01:12,801 --> 00:01:15,146 that somehow things went so bad. 22 00:01:17,456 --> 00:01:19,249 I was at the sheriff's office. 23 00:01:19,284 --> 00:01:22,732 It was afterhours, and I got a phone call. 24 00:01:22,767 --> 00:01:24,387 It was Lynn Giddens. 25 00:01:24,422 --> 00:01:27,456 Lynn has been a friend of my mother 26 00:01:27,491 --> 00:01:29,491 since I was a young child. 27 00:01:29,525 --> 00:01:34,146 She told me about Josh Bailey, who was 20 years old. 28 00:01:34,180 --> 00:01:35,870 And his parents, Steve and Julie, 29 00:01:35,905 --> 00:01:39,249 they had not seen Josh in several weeks. 30 00:01:41,836 --> 00:01:45,836 At the time when the missing persons' call came in to us, 31 00:01:45,870 --> 00:01:49,422 it was one that had been given to another police department. 32 00:01:49,456 --> 00:01:51,594 But the Baileys were not at all satisfied 33 00:01:51,629 --> 00:01:53,043 with their response, 34 00:01:53,077 --> 00:01:55,939 which drove them to reaching out to investigator Horne. 35 00:01:57,353 --> 00:02:00,387 The next morning, I was able to directly ask the Baileys 36 00:02:00,422 --> 00:02:01,767 some questions about Josh 37 00:02:01,801 --> 00:02:05,318 and the circumstances of him being missing. 38 00:02:05,353 --> 00:02:07,629 They said that Josh didn't stay at their home. 39 00:02:07,663 --> 00:02:11,318 He kind of, what they call, couch surfed. 40 00:02:11,353 --> 00:02:13,284 Josh was 20 years old. 41 00:02:13,318 --> 00:02:15,974 He did not want to live at home anymore. 42 00:02:16,008 --> 00:02:18,629 But we spoke often, almost every day. 43 00:02:19,836 --> 00:02:22,180 We told Tim Horne that July 21st 44 00:02:22,215 --> 00:02:24,698 was the last time we saw Josh. 45 00:02:24,732 --> 00:02:27,491 He had come by our offices, 46 00:02:27,525 --> 00:02:30,077 and it was just a normal sort of day. 47 00:02:30,111 --> 00:02:33,698 We made plans about coming for cookout 48 00:02:33,732 --> 00:02:36,767 and coming for my birthday. 49 00:02:36,801 --> 00:02:39,249 He left and I just expected to see him 50 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:42,353 in a couple days for cookout. 51 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:45,525 He didn't show up. 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,008 [uneasy music] 53 00:02:49,043 --> 00:02:50,767 A week went by. 54 00:02:50,801 --> 00:02:54,939 And when he missed his mother's birthday and didn't call, 55 00:02:54,974 --> 00:02:56,284 they knew something was wrong. 56 00:02:56,318 --> 00:03:00,422 No one that knew Josh thought this was typical. 57 00:03:00,456 --> 00:03:03,180 He just seemed to have dropped off 58 00:03:03,215 --> 00:03:04,456 the face of the earth. 59 00:03:04,491 --> 00:03:09,836 ♪ 60 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:13,629 They also indicated that Josh had some mental difficulties. 61 00:03:15,111 --> 00:03:17,974 Josh was eight years old when we adopted him. 62 00:03:19,456 --> 00:03:21,422 He had cognitive issues, 63 00:03:21,456 --> 00:03:24,905 which made him think a little slower, 64 00:03:24,939 --> 00:03:27,387 act a little different. 65 00:03:27,422 --> 00:03:29,836 He worked so hard to fit in and be accepted, 66 00:03:29,870 --> 00:03:33,698 and he was kind and generous. 67 00:03:33,732 --> 00:03:35,836 He was very trusting, 68 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:38,111 which was not always a good thing. 69 00:03:41,456 --> 00:03:44,111 The first thing I did was a BOLO, 70 00:03:44,146 --> 00:03:45,422 a be on the lookout, 71 00:03:45,456 --> 00:03:47,732 and send that out to surrounding agencies 72 00:03:47,767 --> 00:03:51,077 in an effort to locate Josh. 73 00:03:51,111 --> 00:03:54,353 We tried to make contact with Josh's friends 74 00:03:54,387 --> 00:03:58,111 and see if they can shed some light on where he was 75 00:03:58,146 --> 00:04:00,353 or who had seen him. 76 00:04:00,387 --> 00:04:02,491 We did that for a day or two. 77 00:04:02,525 --> 00:04:05,629 They were all trying to help the best they could. 78 00:04:06,767 --> 00:04:09,249 But no one's seen him in several weeks. 79 00:04:12,180 --> 00:04:15,043 I knew something was really wrong, I knew it. 80 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:21,939 - - I checked P2 - P, which stands for Police to Police, 81 00:04:21,974 --> 00:04:24,767 and it's a network where I can access reports 82 00:04:24,801 --> 00:04:27,836 that have been filed with other jurisdictions. 83 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:32,594 When I checked Josh's name, I was stunned 84 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:35,111 'cause I found him as a possible suspect 85 00:04:35,146 --> 00:04:37,387 in a residential break-in. 86 00:04:40,111 --> 00:04:42,180 I actually felt a little relieved 87 00:04:42,215 --> 00:04:44,318 because at least he had been reported 88 00:04:44,353 --> 00:04:47,318 to have been seen on July the 28th, 89 00:04:47,353 --> 00:04:51,387 a week after his father had last seen him. 90 00:04:52,491 --> 00:04:54,353 But there was gonna be a problem. 91 00:04:54,387 --> 00:04:58,836 The report listed Josh, it listed a Matt Johnson, 92 00:04:58,870 --> 00:05:01,905 and most importantly, it listed a Brian Minton. 93 00:05:06,836 --> 00:05:08,939 I knew Brian Minton. 94 00:05:08,974 --> 00:05:10,836 He was 18 years old. 95 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:13,180 I had dealt with Brian from the time 96 00:05:13,215 --> 00:05:16,767 he was very young, a juvenile. 97 00:05:16,801 --> 00:05:20,387 He was convicted of a firearms offense. 98 00:05:20,422 --> 00:05:23,008 Brian had the potential to be very violent. 99 00:05:24,043 --> 00:05:25,629 He's also charged with rape. 100 00:05:25,663 --> 00:05:28,180 He was also a suspect in an arson. 101 00:05:28,215 --> 00:05:30,870 Basically, everyone considered him a problem 102 00:05:30,905 --> 00:05:33,422 waiting for a place to happen. 103 00:05:37,146 --> 00:05:39,767 Josh's risk is... 104 00:05:39,801 --> 00:05:41,284 quite substantial 105 00:05:41,318 --> 00:05:44,043 because of this bad crowd. 106 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:45,939 You can only hope 107 00:05:45,974 --> 00:05:47,491 that he hasn't fallen prey 108 00:05:47,525 --> 00:05:49,077 to either being a victim 109 00:05:49,111 --> 00:05:51,043 or involved in any other activity. 110 00:05:51,077 --> 00:05:52,387 He has a documented 111 00:05:52,422 --> 00:05:54,146 developmental disability, 112 00:05:54,180 --> 00:05:55,767 which can cause numerous 113 00:05:55,801 --> 00:05:57,353 cognitive issues. 114 00:05:57,387 --> 00:05:59,732 He's lacking in many of these higher order 115 00:05:59,767 --> 00:06:01,353 processing abilities 116 00:06:01,387 --> 00:06:04,284 that make us capable of making adult decisions. 117 00:06:04,318 --> 00:06:06,249 So he's more like a child 118 00:06:06,284 --> 00:06:09,146 in that he's likely to be taken advantage of, 119 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:12,284 he's likely to be trusting of individuals he shouldn't trust. 120 00:06:12,318 --> 00:06:15,525 Based on this, detectives need to find Brian Minton 121 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,353 and the guys he's hanging out with, 122 00:06:17,387 --> 00:06:20,077 'cause if anyone knows what happened to Josh Bailey, 123 00:06:20,111 --> 00:06:22,491 it'll be Minton and his friends. 124 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:27,974 The break-in that Brian, Josh, and Matt Johnson 125 00:06:28,008 --> 00:06:30,180 were supposedly involved in 126 00:06:30,215 --> 00:06:33,249 happened at the Krombach residence. 127 00:06:33,284 --> 00:06:35,422 So I actually left the sheriff's office, 128 00:06:35,456 --> 00:06:38,663 and I drove to the Krombach's home. 129 00:06:38,698 --> 00:06:42,387 And when I spoke to Sarah, the homeowner's daughter, 130 00:06:42,422 --> 00:06:44,698 I told her the reason I was there, 131 00:06:44,732 --> 00:06:46,491 that I'm investigating a missing persons 132 00:06:46,525 --> 00:06:48,594 and I wanted to ask her about a break-in 133 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:52,043 in which a number of long guns were taken. 134 00:06:52,077 --> 00:06:56,870 Sarah indicated that she was semi-friends with Brian Minton. 135 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:02,870 Sarah hung out with Brian Minton 136 00:07:02,905 --> 00:07:05,353 and a group of people that he was friends with. 137 00:07:07,146 --> 00:07:10,974 She basically spoke fairly highly of Brian. 138 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:16,111 She said, "Hey, he was able to get my dad's guns back." 139 00:07:16,146 --> 00:07:18,629 The story that Brian told her 140 00:07:18,663 --> 00:07:21,801 was that Josh and Matt Johnson came by his home 141 00:07:21,836 --> 00:07:23,663 and they showed him the weapons, 142 00:07:23,698 --> 00:07:26,767 and so he simply returned them to Sarah. 143 00:07:26,801 --> 00:07:29,939 So Matt Johnson and Josh Bailey 144 00:07:29,974 --> 00:07:34,249 are listed as suspects solely on the word of Brian Minton. 145 00:07:35,422 --> 00:07:38,663 But nothing is ever what it seems to be with Brian. 146 00:07:38,698 --> 00:07:41,905 [ominous music] 147 00:07:41,939 --> 00:07:46,801 I actually went to high school with Brian's father, Greg. 148 00:07:46,836 --> 00:07:51,456 And so I call Greg Minton and ask him to have Brian call me. 149 00:07:51,491 --> 00:07:53,043 [phone ringing] 150 00:07:53,077 --> 00:07:54,353 Within just a minute or two, 151 00:07:54,387 --> 00:07:56,353 I'm getting a phone call from Brian. 152 00:07:56,387 --> 00:08:00,077 And Brian was very elusive with his answers 153 00:08:00,111 --> 00:08:03,043 to the questions I posed to him about Josh. 154 00:08:04,111 --> 00:08:06,318 And then he said, "Uh, gotta go." 155 00:08:06,353 --> 00:08:08,353 And he hung up. 156 00:08:08,387 --> 00:08:11,180 And I left numerous messages, he wouldn't call me back. 157 00:08:14,905 --> 00:08:18,008 So that leaves me only really one other lead, 158 00:08:18,043 --> 00:08:20,905 and that was Matt Johnson. 159 00:08:20,939 --> 00:08:25,456 So I went by Matt's home and knock on the door. 160 00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:30,870 Matt was not there, but I spoke with his mother. 161 00:08:30,905 --> 00:08:32,456 She basically tells me 162 00:08:32,491 --> 00:08:35,318 that he was now in a mental institution 163 00:08:35,353 --> 00:08:39,870 that, in late July, he checked himself into. 164 00:08:39,905 --> 00:08:43,111 And she told me that he was in fear of his life 165 00:08:43,146 --> 00:08:46,008 and he basically was on the run. 166 00:08:47,387 --> 00:08:50,111 When you hear this, you start to feel that in your gut 167 00:08:50,146 --> 00:08:52,594 that things are not gonna end well. 168 00:08:55,387 --> 00:08:57,767 As we get closer, we're starting to get a smell 169 00:08:57,801 --> 00:09:00,836 of something decomposing. 170 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:03,732 We all looked at each other and knew what we had found. 171 00:09:03,767 --> 00:09:06,698 He was the Charles Manson. He ran the show. 172 00:09:06,732 --> 00:09:09,077 He dictated who did what. 173 00:09:09,111 --> 00:09:11,422 This group was driven by loyalty, 174 00:09:11,456 --> 00:09:13,456 but there was also that factor of being afraid. 175 00:09:13,491 --> 00:09:15,215 ♪ 176 00:09:17,456 --> 00:09:20,077 [tense music] 177 00:09:20,111 --> 00:09:22,767 I'm at a dead-end with Josh at the moment. 178 00:09:22,801 --> 00:09:25,284 He can't be located. 179 00:09:25,318 --> 00:09:27,974 Brian Minton's not cooperating, 180 00:09:28,008 --> 00:09:29,491 and I'm very suspicious of him. 181 00:09:29,525 --> 00:09:31,801 ♪ 182 00:09:31,836 --> 00:09:33,870 So that leaves me Matt Johnson, 183 00:09:33,905 --> 00:09:36,180 who at the time Josh had disappeared 184 00:09:36,215 --> 00:09:38,594 had checked himself into a mental institution. 185 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:42,974 So I make arrangements with the facility, 186 00:09:43,008 --> 00:09:44,974 and I go to him. 187 00:09:47,008 --> 00:09:48,905 I assumed they would have a conference room 188 00:09:48,939 --> 00:09:52,767 or someplace that I could speak to Matt, but they did not. 189 00:09:54,215 --> 00:09:57,939 And Matt is so paranoid that anytime someone came close, 190 00:09:57,974 --> 00:09:59,939 he just stopped talking. 191 00:10:01,387 --> 00:10:04,353 But then Matt starts a story, 192 00:10:04,387 --> 00:10:08,111 and he talks about Brian Minton and the Minton garage. 193 00:10:09,974 --> 00:10:12,111 Matt was involved in a group of people. 194 00:10:12,146 --> 00:10:15,249 There were at least 10 to 11 people 195 00:10:15,284 --> 00:10:18,111 involved in this group at different times. 196 00:10:19,422 --> 00:10:23,905 They were all fairly young, 18, 19, 20 years old. 197 00:10:23,939 --> 00:10:28,180 Brian Minton's garage was the gang hangout. 198 00:10:28,215 --> 00:10:31,008 It is where the group convened, 199 00:10:31,043 --> 00:10:33,663 they partied, they did drugs, 200 00:10:33,698 --> 00:10:36,525 they planned criminal activity. 201 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,318 Matt Johnson said that they were involved 202 00:10:39,353 --> 00:10:43,456 in some house break-ins and at least one armed robbery. 203 00:10:43,491 --> 00:10:46,732 So they were involved in some very serious crimes. 204 00:10:48,939 --> 00:10:51,594 Brian seemed to be the ringleader. 205 00:10:51,629 --> 00:10:54,284 He's the one who would give the orders 206 00:10:54,318 --> 00:10:55,870 and lead the discussions 207 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:59,560 when they were planning their various crimes. 208 00:11:00,249 --> 00:11:03,387 Brian was the enforcer of that group of kids. 209 00:11:03,422 --> 00:11:05,077 They were loyal to one another, 210 00:11:05,111 --> 00:11:06,525 but there was also that factor 211 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,387 of being afraid of what would happen 212 00:11:08,422 --> 00:11:11,560 if they tried to separate themselves from that group. 213 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:18,939 Matt said that they would allow Josh to party with them, 214 00:11:18,974 --> 00:11:21,008 to hang out with them, 215 00:11:21,043 --> 00:11:24,387 but Josh was not considered a member of the gang. 216 00:11:24,422 --> 00:11:27,422 They saw him as harmless. 217 00:11:28,111 --> 00:11:30,629 Matt had introduced Josh to the group. 218 00:11:30,663 --> 00:11:33,284 Matt brought him in. 219 00:11:33,318 --> 00:11:35,905 Then Matt told me, he tells Josh 220 00:11:35,939 --> 00:11:37,870 that he's been in so much trouble 221 00:11:37,905 --> 00:11:40,767 with the law enforcement that he was kind of thinking, 222 00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:42,870 "Well, maybe I can snitch on a few people, 223 00:11:42,905 --> 00:11:44,905 get myself out of trouble." 224 00:11:44,939 --> 00:11:48,387 "I'll be a narc," is what he called it, 225 00:11:48,422 --> 00:11:50,974 "be a snitch." 226 00:11:51,008 --> 00:11:53,008 And he tells Josh this. 227 00:11:53,043 --> 00:11:57,629 Josh files it away, doesn't really repeat anything. 228 00:11:57,663 --> 00:12:01,318 Until July 29, 2008. 229 00:12:03,249 --> 00:12:07,146 Matt said Brian Minton wanted to buy some marijuana. 230 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:09,974 And Matt says, "Hey, I know somewhere I can get that." 231 00:12:10,008 --> 00:12:12,663 And then Josh happens to blurt out, 232 00:12:12,698 --> 00:12:14,008 "Well, you know he's a narc." 233 00:12:14,043 --> 00:12:17,043 [suspenseful music] 234 00:12:17,077 --> 00:12:20,215 According to Matt, Brian thought he was being set up. 235 00:12:20,249 --> 00:12:22,077 ♪ 236 00:12:22,111 --> 00:12:24,456 And so they kind of had a makeshift court 237 00:12:24,491 --> 00:12:27,663 with Brian Minton presiding. 238 00:12:28,939 --> 00:12:31,111 Matt, trying to save his own skin, 239 00:12:31,146 --> 00:12:36,180 introduced Josh as the person who was talking to police. 240 00:12:39,456 --> 00:12:43,939 Then they started questioning Josh about his involvement, 241 00:12:43,974 --> 00:12:46,663 could he be the one talking to the police. 242 00:12:48,043 --> 00:12:51,284 Josh starts to shut down and won't communicate. 243 00:12:53,491 --> 00:12:56,249 And Matt's talking a mile a minute, 244 00:12:56,284 --> 00:12:59,422 trying to convince Brian that he's not the snitch. 245 00:13:02,663 --> 00:13:06,077 And then Brian Minton came up with the twisted idea 246 00:13:06,111 --> 00:13:09,043 that Josh Bailey would fight Matt Johnson. 247 00:13:10,111 --> 00:13:14,146 The winner of the fight would be innocent, not be the narc. 248 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:15,870 The loser would be the narc. 249 00:13:15,905 --> 00:13:21,318 ♪ 250 00:13:21,353 --> 00:13:24,111 Brian Minton has these two individuals 251 00:13:24,146 --> 00:13:27,318 sort of fighting it out in front of the larger group. 252 00:13:28,146 --> 00:13:29,974 What Brian is proposing here 253 00:13:30,008 --> 00:13:33,491 is not about finding out who the snitch is. 254 00:13:33,525 --> 00:13:38,353 It's about exerting his control and authority over this group. 255 00:13:38,387 --> 00:13:41,870 He wants to make sure everyone stays in line. 256 00:13:41,905 --> 00:13:44,111 No one is challenging the process. 257 00:13:44,146 --> 00:13:46,629 No one is asking for more information. 258 00:13:46,663 --> 00:13:49,146 They all want to belong. They all want to be accepted. 259 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:51,111 They all want to show their loyalty 260 00:13:51,146 --> 00:13:53,732 and trust to Brian in this process. 261 00:13:53,767 --> 00:13:57,387 He's using these individuals as sort of chess pieces, 262 00:13:57,422 --> 00:13:59,939 as pawns to influence the larger group. 263 00:13:59,974 --> 00:14:02,491 And that shows a tremendous amount of insight 264 00:14:02,525 --> 00:14:04,663 into the psychology of the people beneath him, 265 00:14:04,698 --> 00:14:07,043 and it's actually quite impressive. 266 00:14:10,043 --> 00:14:11,215 According to Matt, 267 00:14:11,249 --> 00:14:12,732 they really didn't want to fight each other. 268 00:14:12,767 --> 00:14:15,594 So it was more of just a pushing contest. 269 00:14:18,111 --> 00:14:23,008 Josh was a much more passive person than Matt Johnson. 270 00:14:23,939 --> 00:14:27,870 Josh was not in a good position to defend himself. 271 00:14:27,905 --> 00:14:29,732 So ultimately, 272 00:14:29,767 --> 00:14:32,491 it was determined that Josh was the narc. 273 00:14:34,698 --> 00:14:37,180 According to Matt, Brian, out of frustration, 274 00:14:37,215 --> 00:14:40,111 kind of says, "That's it. We're going." 275 00:14:40,146 --> 00:14:44,732 And Brian and several members of the group took Josh away. 276 00:14:49,836 --> 00:14:52,353 Matt says that about an hour, hour and a half later, 277 00:14:52,387 --> 00:14:56,215 they come back without Josh. 278 00:14:56,249 --> 00:14:59,456 And Brian comes up to Matt and basically says, 279 00:14:59,491 --> 00:15:03,284 "If you [BLEEP] me the way Josh did, 280 00:15:03,318 --> 00:15:05,077 same thing is gonna happen to you." 281 00:15:05,111 --> 00:15:09,560 ♪ 282 00:15:09,594 --> 00:15:12,146 I was really fearful that Matt was going to 283 00:15:12,180 --> 00:15:13,525 just stop talking altogether 284 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,077 because he was that nervous. 285 00:15:16,111 --> 00:15:17,491 But fortunately, 286 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:21,077 he gave me a number of names of who had been involved. 287 00:15:21,111 --> 00:15:23,456 And the top of the list is Brian Minton. 288 00:15:25,111 --> 00:15:27,491 And there were a number of other individuals 289 00:15:27,525 --> 00:15:32,043 by nicknames BG, Blackjack, Jake. 290 00:15:32,077 --> 00:15:34,387 I did not know these other names. 291 00:15:35,318 --> 00:15:38,663 It's hard to fake being that scared. 292 00:15:38,698 --> 00:15:40,732 That's why Matt was believable. 293 00:15:40,767 --> 00:15:43,422 He was just that scared. 294 00:15:43,456 --> 00:15:44,594 And after that interview, 295 00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:46,767 I came back to the sheriff's office 296 00:15:46,801 --> 00:15:48,663 and told my supervisors, 297 00:15:48,698 --> 00:15:50,629 "I can't tell you where he is at this moment, 298 00:15:50,663 --> 00:15:52,043 "who all was involved, 299 00:15:52,077 --> 00:15:54,249 but I can tell you that he's gonna be deceased. 300 00:15:54,284 --> 00:15:55,629 Josh is dead." 301 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:57,905 ♪ 302 00:15:59,456 --> 00:16:02,077 [uneasy music] 303 00:16:02,111 --> 00:16:04,836 At this point in our investigation, 304 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:07,767 we have got a number of participants 305 00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:11,732 that we have keen interest in. 306 00:16:11,767 --> 00:16:14,491 Kind of went definitely from missing person 307 00:16:14,525 --> 00:16:17,974 to a homicide type of atmosphere. 308 00:16:18,008 --> 00:16:19,663 So the decision was made 309 00:16:19,698 --> 00:16:22,836 to bring in the State Bureau of Investigation. 310 00:16:25,974 --> 00:16:28,043 The question that we were all asking ourselves was, 311 00:16:28,077 --> 00:16:31,318 "What happened after Josh Bailey 312 00:16:31,353 --> 00:16:33,456 was taken from that garage?" 313 00:16:37,905 --> 00:16:40,560 So following up on information that Matt had provided, 314 00:16:40,594 --> 00:16:43,801 we attempted to identify all of the members 315 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,387 of Brian Minton's crew. 316 00:16:45,422 --> 00:16:48,905 Matt Johnson didn't have the full names of anyone. 317 00:16:48,939 --> 00:16:52,043 He just knew by nickname. 318 00:16:52,077 --> 00:16:55,801 We researched Brian and his associates, 319 00:16:55,836 --> 00:16:59,698 and we got in different vehicles, tinted windows. 320 00:16:59,732 --> 00:17:04,008 We would drive by different homes, see who was there. 321 00:17:04,043 --> 00:17:06,422 We had photographic lineups completed 322 00:17:06,456 --> 00:17:09,215 but we needed Matt to identify them. 323 00:17:14,974 --> 00:17:18,249 Several days after the SBI got involved in the case, 324 00:17:18,284 --> 00:17:20,836 investigator Horne and Phillip and I 325 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:24,387 went down to interview Matt. 326 00:17:24,422 --> 00:17:26,525 We wanted to see if his story changed 327 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,698 or if it remained the same. 328 00:17:29,905 --> 00:17:32,180 We started out with the photo lineup. 329 00:17:33,525 --> 00:17:35,836 One by one, Matt was able to identify 330 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:38,870 each player in this game. 331 00:17:38,905 --> 00:17:40,560 Brian Minton was there, 332 00:17:40,594 --> 00:17:43,491 Jacob Maxwell, 333 00:17:43,525 --> 00:17:45,560 Jack Johnson. 334 00:17:46,939 --> 00:17:50,525 All these individuals were somehow involved 335 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,491 in what happened to Josh that day. 336 00:17:56,456 --> 00:17:59,422 Investigators don't know what happened to Josh, 337 00:17:59,456 --> 00:18:01,525 but they do suspect foul play. 338 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,387 Matt Johnson has talked to them, 339 00:18:04,422 --> 00:18:06,491 but they're not sure he's being completely truthful. 340 00:18:06,525 --> 00:18:08,525 And they need to push him a little more, 341 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,387 but not push too hard, 342 00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:11,870 'cause they don't want him to clam up. 343 00:18:11,905 --> 00:18:13,698 They need his cooperation. 344 00:18:13,732 --> 00:18:16,560 How do you get a gang member to talk? 345 00:18:16,594 --> 00:18:18,939 You have to find leverage. 346 00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:22,077 You have to find something that they care about, 347 00:18:22,111 --> 00:18:23,870 that brings meaning to them. 348 00:18:23,905 --> 00:18:25,939 And so the best way to appeal to him 349 00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:29,077 is gonna be appeal to his humanity, his emotional side. 350 00:18:29,111 --> 00:18:32,663 This is not a cold-hearted criminal individual. 351 00:18:32,698 --> 00:18:35,146 This is someone who just wanted to belong. 352 00:18:37,318 --> 00:18:39,491 At this point, we decided to tighten the screws 353 00:18:39,525 --> 00:18:41,215 a little bit on Matt Johnson. 354 00:18:41,249 --> 00:18:43,801 So when the time was right, I simply told him 355 00:18:43,836 --> 00:18:47,836 I wanted him to read a letter that Julie Bailey had written. 356 00:18:53,077 --> 00:18:55,491 One of the things I said in the letter 357 00:18:55,525 --> 00:18:57,284 was that I felt it was important for him 358 00:18:57,318 --> 00:19:00,249 to know that Josh actually respected him 359 00:19:00,284 --> 00:19:04,146 and looked up to him and considered him a friend. 360 00:19:06,594 --> 00:19:09,249 And please, if you have any sense of compassion at all, 361 00:19:09,284 --> 00:19:13,594 if you know where he is, please tell us, 362 00:19:13,629 --> 00:19:17,353 that this was killing us, not knowing. 363 00:19:19,732 --> 00:19:20,974 Matt read it, 364 00:19:21,008 --> 00:19:23,146 and then he put it back in the envelope, 365 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:24,698 kind of hung his head, and he said, 366 00:19:24,732 --> 00:19:26,491 "I didn't know Josh was adopted. 367 00:19:26,525 --> 00:19:28,560 I'm adopted too." 368 00:19:28,594 --> 00:19:32,111 I simply asked a question, 369 00:19:32,146 --> 00:19:35,353 "Tell me what happened to Josh Bailey." 370 00:19:35,387 --> 00:19:39,491 This is where Matt Johnson decided to change his story. 371 00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:42,732 Matt told us that, in fact, he didn't stay in the garage, 372 00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:45,249 that he went with Josh Bailey and the others. 373 00:19:49,008 --> 00:19:52,008 Josh Bailey was led to a wooded area 374 00:19:52,043 --> 00:19:54,422 to a fallen tree. 375 00:19:54,456 --> 00:19:57,353 There was a hole where the tree used to be. 376 00:19:57,387 --> 00:20:01,215 Brian tells Josh to go stand in this hole. 377 00:20:01,249 --> 00:20:04,353 [uneasy piano music] 378 00:20:04,387 --> 00:20:07,456 Matt was standing about 20 to 25 feet away, 379 00:20:07,491 --> 00:20:09,698 and he closed his eyes. 380 00:20:09,732 --> 00:20:12,870 ♪ 381 00:20:12,905 --> 00:20:16,215 He didn't see it. He just heard two gunshots. 382 00:20:16,249 --> 00:20:18,043 [gunshot] 383 00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:22,077 [gunshot] 384 00:20:22,111 --> 00:20:26,077 Matt told us Jack Johnson was the one who shot Josh. 385 00:20:29,008 --> 00:20:32,077 And he said that he could take us to where the body was. 386 00:20:34,422 --> 00:20:36,974 We wanted to find that crime scene as quick as possible. 387 00:20:38,974 --> 00:20:41,456 Matt didn't know the names of any of the roads 388 00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:44,939 that we really needed to take to get to this location. 389 00:20:44,974 --> 00:20:48,111 But as we're driving, we end up this dirt drive, 390 00:20:48,146 --> 00:20:49,974 it's called Twisted Oak Drive. 391 00:20:50,008 --> 00:20:52,284 And he said, "Hey, this is it." 392 00:20:55,077 --> 00:20:57,008 It's already starting to get dark, 393 00:20:57,043 --> 00:20:59,353 and we're all headed out through the woods 394 00:20:59,387 --> 00:21:01,318 trying to find this site. 395 00:21:01,353 --> 00:21:04,215 I could tell that Matt Johnson was nervous. 396 00:21:04,249 --> 00:21:05,663 I was even nervous. 397 00:21:05,698 --> 00:21:07,974 I'm physically with somebody who's showing me 398 00:21:08,008 --> 00:21:09,629 where somebody has been killed 399 00:21:09,663 --> 00:21:11,801 and where somebody's body is located. 400 00:21:11,836 --> 00:21:14,249 And it's intense. 401 00:21:14,284 --> 00:21:17,387 We just keep on and on, going down through the woods. 402 00:21:17,422 --> 00:21:19,353 We're probably a couple of hundred yards 403 00:21:19,387 --> 00:21:21,974 from the road at this point. 404 00:21:22,008 --> 00:21:24,077 Every so often the wind would blow, 405 00:21:24,111 --> 00:21:27,111 and you could smell decomp. 406 00:21:27,146 --> 00:21:30,732 Anybody that's worked homicide and death investigations, 407 00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:34,767 you know the smell, and so we knew we were close. 408 00:21:36,111 --> 00:21:39,008 The smell gets stronger and stronger and stronger, 409 00:21:39,043 --> 00:21:40,974 and Matt Johnson stops us and tells us, 410 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:43,318 "This is where Josh Bailey was shot." 411 00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:46,905 Matt told us that Josh was buried here. 412 00:21:46,939 --> 00:21:49,698 We look down, we look around, 413 00:21:49,732 --> 00:21:52,249 and we see a hole in the ground. 414 00:21:52,284 --> 00:21:54,663 We don't see Josh. Josh is not there. 415 00:21:59,146 --> 00:22:02,836 That's when one of the gang members drives past us. 416 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:04,698 We had to act immediately. 417 00:22:04,732 --> 00:22:06,215 We couldn't let him make a phone call. 418 00:22:06,249 --> 00:22:07,594 [siren wails] 419 00:22:07,629 --> 00:22:10,249 The next step was to get somebody to talk. 420 00:22:20,698 --> 00:22:24,077 [tense music] 421 00:22:24,111 --> 00:22:27,043 The fact that Josh wasn't at this location 422 00:22:27,077 --> 00:22:29,456 was a big punch in the gut. 423 00:22:29,491 --> 00:22:31,698 But I could smell what I was smelling, 424 00:22:31,732 --> 00:22:32,974 and it looked like, to me, 425 00:22:33,008 --> 00:22:34,663 Matt Johnson is telling the truth. 426 00:22:34,698 --> 00:22:38,836 Matt was white as a ghost, white as a ghost. 427 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:42,456 And he was totally stunned that that body was not there. 428 00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:46,560 Did the body get moved? You know, what's going on? 429 00:22:51,422 --> 00:22:56,284 I was called to the scene for Joshua Bailey's case. 430 00:22:56,318 --> 00:22:58,905 We went to two different spots in that location. 431 00:22:58,939 --> 00:23:01,146 One was an uprooted tree. 432 00:23:02,629 --> 00:23:05,456 This is where we had been told by Matt 433 00:23:05,491 --> 00:23:08,318 they decided to place the body because they thought, 434 00:23:08,353 --> 00:23:10,870 "We'll just use the hole that's already been made. 435 00:23:10,905 --> 00:23:14,180 That way we won't have to dig it quite as deep." 436 00:23:14,215 --> 00:23:16,146 There's no body in this hole, 437 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:20,318 but you can smell the decomp from the hole. 438 00:23:20,353 --> 00:23:24,077 The second spot, there were several trash bags 439 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:27,077 filled with dirt and one that was unused. 440 00:23:27,111 --> 00:23:31,663 And in those bags, there's a lot of odor of decomposition. 441 00:23:33,318 --> 00:23:36,698 And so it was apparent that whoever came out there 442 00:23:36,732 --> 00:23:38,387 was trying to get rid of that evidence, 443 00:23:38,422 --> 00:23:41,491 but they just overloaded these bags. 444 00:23:41,525 --> 00:23:44,180 I think they got tired and they realized, 445 00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:46,870 "We can't do this and this is not gonna work." 446 00:23:49,008 --> 00:23:51,663 Investigators saw evidence there 447 00:23:51,698 --> 00:23:54,180 that supported that Josh had been killed. 448 00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:58,974 They could smell that there had been a dead body there. 449 00:23:59,008 --> 00:24:01,284 Clearly, the body had been moved. 450 00:24:01,318 --> 00:24:03,318 We were convinced that he had been killed. 451 00:24:03,353 --> 00:24:05,284 We just needed to find him. 452 00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:11,284 During this crime scene processing, 453 00:24:11,318 --> 00:24:12,801 myself and Justin were at the edge 454 00:24:12,836 --> 00:24:15,870 of this cul-de-sac talking. 455 00:24:15,905 --> 00:24:21,111 And one of the gang members, Jacob Maxwell, drives past us. 456 00:24:21,146 --> 00:24:24,836 He looks at us, and we look at him, 457 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:27,663 and there's just that "oh crap" moment. 458 00:24:27,698 --> 00:24:30,629 You've got a big crime scene truck there, 459 00:24:30,663 --> 00:24:32,801 and he would have known that we were onto him. 460 00:24:32,836 --> 00:24:34,905 [indistinct radio chatter] 461 00:24:34,939 --> 00:24:37,939 We had to act immediately at that very second 462 00:24:37,974 --> 00:24:39,974 'cause we couldn't let him make a phone call. 463 00:24:40,008 --> 00:24:43,043 We couldn't let him get away, so he was arrested. 464 00:24:44,801 --> 00:24:47,249 And then we had to get arrest warrants rapidly 465 00:24:47,284 --> 00:24:50,801 on Brian Minton and Jack Johnson. 466 00:24:50,836 --> 00:24:52,525 And that's what we did. 467 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,905 Without Josh's body, myself and Tim Horne 468 00:24:54,939 --> 00:24:57,698 were uncomfortable charging anyone with murder. 469 00:24:57,732 --> 00:25:00,629 So we decided to charge this group of friends 470 00:25:00,663 --> 00:25:02,974 with kidnapping. 471 00:25:03,008 --> 00:25:05,801 This gave us the ability to sit them down 472 00:25:05,836 --> 00:25:09,629 and really interrogate them about who killed Josh Bailey. 473 00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:14,146 [ominous music] 474 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:18,456 ♪ 475 00:25:21,801 --> 00:25:24,422 Matt Johnson had told us that Jack Johnson was the one 476 00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:27,732 who was responsible for killing Josh. 477 00:25:27,767 --> 00:25:30,353 So it was really important for us to interview Jack Johnson. 478 00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:37,870 We start off with very easy questions. 479 00:25:45,146 --> 00:25:47,525 We interviewed him for hours and hours, 480 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,043 and then I finally just asked him... 481 00:26:26,353 --> 00:26:29,215 Jack responded very adamantly 482 00:26:29,249 --> 00:26:32,422 that he didn't kill Josh, it was Matt. 483 00:26:32,456 --> 00:26:34,387 I don't know if Jack is telling me the truth 484 00:26:34,422 --> 00:26:35,594 or if Matt's telling me the truth. 485 00:26:35,629 --> 00:26:37,318 All right. 486 00:26:37,353 --> 00:26:39,525 And Jack went on and on 487 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,698 and gave a lot of details about everything. 488 00:27:00,249 --> 00:27:01,870 Beef was Brian's street name. 489 00:27:01,905 --> 00:27:05,560 He was a heavyset kid, and they all called him Beef. 490 00:27:33,008 --> 00:27:34,974 Jack Johnson is telling them 491 00:27:35,008 --> 00:27:38,284 he didn't fire the shot that killed Josh Bailey. 492 00:27:38,318 --> 00:27:39,629 It was Matt Johnson. 493 00:27:39,663 --> 00:27:43,077 But one thing that Jack and Matt agree on 494 00:27:43,111 --> 00:27:45,974 is that Brian Minton ordered it. 495 00:27:46,008 --> 00:27:48,249 And that means that, legally, 496 00:27:48,284 --> 00:27:50,146 Brian Minton could be implicated 497 00:27:50,180 --> 00:27:51,560 in the murder of Josh Bailey. 498 00:27:51,594 --> 00:27:53,801 Charles Manson was never actually convicted 499 00:27:53,836 --> 00:27:55,249 of killing anybody. 500 00:27:55,284 --> 00:27:57,318 He had others kill for him, 501 00:27:57,353 --> 00:28:00,905 which is exactly what Brian Minton has done. 502 00:28:00,939 --> 00:28:03,836 If any of them speak, they can be arrested. 503 00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:06,801 And so by having everybody there, 504 00:28:06,836 --> 00:28:10,974 he's sort of implicating everybody in his own crimes. 505 00:28:11,008 --> 00:28:14,732 It makes the investigation that much more complicated 506 00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:18,146 because they're loyal to the gang, 507 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,974 they're loyal to Brian, 508 00:28:21,008 --> 00:28:25,560 and they'll do anything to cover up what they've done. 509 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,456 All right. 510 00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:31,905 We felt like, at this point, 511 00:28:31,939 --> 00:28:34,560 it was important to talk to Brian Minton. 512 00:28:42,836 --> 00:28:45,387 Brian's lawyer told him 513 00:28:45,422 --> 00:28:47,905 he needed to keep his mouth shut. 514 00:28:47,939 --> 00:28:51,249 The next person in line was Jacob Maxwell. 515 00:28:57,905 --> 00:29:01,732 This group was driven by loyalty and fear to begin with, 516 00:29:01,767 --> 00:29:05,594 and then it became, "What am I gonna do to protect myself?" 517 00:29:08,077 --> 00:29:12,905 So the next step was to try to ramp up anything we could 518 00:29:12,939 --> 00:29:14,905 with anybody else that might know something 519 00:29:14,939 --> 00:29:16,767 about what happened or to get somebody to talk. 520 00:29:16,801 --> 00:29:18,870 That's when we reached outside of 521 00:29:18,905 --> 00:29:21,663 just the initial arrestees that we had 522 00:29:21,698 --> 00:29:24,939 and started contacting other members of the group, 523 00:29:24,974 --> 00:29:27,629 and Phillip spoke to Garry Bright. 524 00:29:29,077 --> 00:29:31,939 When I met Garry Bright, we got in the car, 525 00:29:31,974 --> 00:29:34,353 but I could see in the background 526 00:29:34,387 --> 00:29:37,008 that somebody was actually watching us. 527 00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:39,560 And so Garry said, "If you take me to this area 528 00:29:39,594 --> 00:29:41,801 "where I feel comfortable talking to you at, 529 00:29:41,836 --> 00:29:44,594 then I will tell you what I know about Josh Bailey." 530 00:29:44,629 --> 00:29:46,525 I jumped on that. 531 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,801 Garry said that, after the shooting had occurred, 532 00:29:51,836 --> 00:29:54,008 Brian was at his house laughing about the way 533 00:29:54,043 --> 00:29:57,043 Josh fell after he had been shot. 534 00:29:58,043 --> 00:30:01,767 And then Garry told me that Matt Johnson got intoxicated 535 00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:04,387 and got emotional and confessed 536 00:30:04,422 --> 00:30:07,525 that he was the one who killed Josh. 537 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,077 Garry Bright told us that Matt had admitted to him 538 00:30:11,111 --> 00:30:12,663 that he had to do it 539 00:30:12,698 --> 00:30:14,318 because they were gonna kill him also 540 00:30:14,353 --> 00:30:16,249 if he didn't pull the trigger. 541 00:30:17,836 --> 00:30:19,905 And also Garry said that he thought he knew 542 00:30:19,939 --> 00:30:23,180 where Josh's body was moved, and I simply said, 543 00:30:23,215 --> 00:30:25,974 "Garry, will you show me how to get there?" 544 00:30:26,008 --> 00:30:28,870 It's one of the most critical parts of this case. 545 00:30:28,905 --> 00:30:30,594 As far as I was concerned, 546 00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:33,456 this is our best chance to find Josh's body. 547 00:30:36,284 --> 00:30:38,905 [light dramatic music] 548 00:30:38,939 --> 00:30:41,077 We believed Josh was initially killed 549 00:30:41,111 --> 00:30:42,629 in one location 550 00:30:42,663 --> 00:30:45,318 and his body was moved to another location and buried. 551 00:30:45,353 --> 00:30:49,284 Garry Bright said he knew where the body was. 552 00:30:49,318 --> 00:30:51,284 But he had no idea exactly where it was at. 553 00:30:51,318 --> 00:30:55,249 He just knew it was on a road near Jordan Lake. 554 00:30:55,284 --> 00:30:57,180 When we arrived, we turned down a dirt road 555 00:30:57,215 --> 00:31:00,663 and he told me to stop when we got to this path. 556 00:31:00,698 --> 00:31:03,180 And he said, "This is it." 557 00:31:04,801 --> 00:31:07,767 So we walked on foot back into the area. 558 00:31:09,353 --> 00:31:11,422 But we didn't see anything that stood out to us 559 00:31:11,456 --> 00:31:13,732 as where Josh's body was at. 560 00:31:13,767 --> 00:31:15,180 This point, I'm trying to figure out 561 00:31:15,215 --> 00:31:17,525 if Garry is telling the truth. 562 00:31:20,249 --> 00:31:22,318 The next morning, on September 12th, 563 00:31:22,353 --> 00:31:25,422 the cadaver dog met us in this wooded area 564 00:31:25,456 --> 00:31:28,663 and the handler let the dog search. 565 00:31:28,698 --> 00:31:31,146 Jordan Lake's very similar to the first location 566 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:32,353 at Twisted Oak. 567 00:31:32,387 --> 00:31:33,939 It was just lots of trees, 568 00:31:33,974 --> 00:31:37,836 a lot of leaf coverage on the ground. 569 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:40,353 Very soon, after the dog was let out, 570 00:31:40,387 --> 00:31:43,594 he focused on a specific area. 571 00:31:43,629 --> 00:31:46,698 The area was not very remarkable at first glance. 572 00:31:46,732 --> 00:31:51,077 Somebody could walk right over top of it and never seen it. 573 00:31:51,111 --> 00:31:54,008 There was a shallow depression 574 00:31:54,043 --> 00:31:56,180 covered by leaf litter. 575 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:05,215 We excavated using troughs and spoons and scoops 576 00:32:05,249 --> 00:32:08,905 to place the soil into buckets. 577 00:32:08,939 --> 00:32:12,801 Somewhere between 18 inches and 24 inches down, 578 00:32:12,836 --> 00:32:16,146 we found the fingertip of a latex glove. 579 00:32:18,801 --> 00:32:21,870 There was a chance that you could find a fingerprint 580 00:32:21,905 --> 00:32:24,801 or some type of DNA material inside of that. 581 00:32:26,043 --> 00:32:29,422 As we continued, we began to observe 582 00:32:29,456 --> 00:32:31,215 that some of the metal tools 583 00:32:31,249 --> 00:32:33,870 started to etch on the surface, 584 00:32:33,905 --> 00:32:37,077 and some people's shoes even fell apart. 585 00:32:37,111 --> 00:32:39,249 At the time, we didn't know for certain, 586 00:32:39,284 --> 00:32:43,077 but it's consistent with applying acid to the remains 587 00:32:43,111 --> 00:32:47,146 intentionally to accelerate the process of decomposition. 588 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:53,836 As we dug further, we found a bundle of tarps 589 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:55,663 that were blue and black, 590 00:32:55,698 --> 00:32:58,284 clear plastic secured with tape. 591 00:32:58,318 --> 00:33:02,836 And this object was long, probably about five feet long. 592 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:06,525 You could feel that something was inside that bundle. 593 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,836 We all looked at each other and knew what we had found. 594 00:33:09,870 --> 00:33:11,525 We believed it was Josh Bailey's body. 595 00:33:13,939 --> 00:33:16,905 Because it was wrapped, you face a decision: 596 00:33:16,939 --> 00:33:21,215 do you cut through it to confirm that it contains 597 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,284 the physical remains of the victim you're searching for 598 00:33:24,318 --> 00:33:28,629 or do you extract it in situ, in place, 599 00:33:28,663 --> 00:33:31,456 and transport it to the medical examiner?" 600 00:33:31,491 --> 00:33:33,077 We decided on the latter. 601 00:33:40,008 --> 00:33:41,974 The medical examiner was able to identify 602 00:33:42,008 --> 00:33:43,629 the body as Josh Bailey 603 00:33:43,663 --> 00:33:47,043 and determine that Josh was a victim of two gunshots. 604 00:33:47,077 --> 00:33:48,698 He was executed. 605 00:33:48,732 --> 00:33:50,663 He was shot in the back of the head. 606 00:33:50,698 --> 00:33:52,077 We couldn't say for sure, 607 00:33:52,111 --> 00:33:56,491 but we believed he was shot at very close range. 608 00:33:56,525 --> 00:33:58,043 [gunshot] 609 00:33:58,077 --> 00:34:00,077 He fell from the first shot, 610 00:34:00,111 --> 00:34:02,560 and then he was shot again to make sure he was dead. 611 00:34:02,594 --> 00:34:04,629 [gunshot] 612 00:34:07,180 --> 00:34:10,146 [somber music] 613 00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:11,456 ♪ 614 00:34:11,491 --> 00:34:14,077 It's a Saturday morning, 615 00:34:14,111 --> 00:34:17,249 and I went out 616 00:34:17,284 --> 00:34:19,836 and started sweeping the front porch, 617 00:34:19,870 --> 00:34:21,836 and I saw car pull in our driveway 618 00:34:21,870 --> 00:34:25,387 and I--I thought, "Well, that's funny. 619 00:34:25,422 --> 00:34:27,870 That looks like my preacher's car." 620 00:34:27,905 --> 00:34:31,146 And then Tim came walking up, 621 00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:34,284 and I saw my preacher behind him. 622 00:34:34,318 --> 00:34:37,525 And I knew. 623 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,146 [sniffles] 624 00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:42,215 I just fell down. 625 00:34:45,698 --> 00:34:48,905 I remember thinking, "Well... 626 00:34:50,870 --> 00:34:53,111 at least we found him." 627 00:35:00,974 --> 00:35:04,629 So at this point now we have two separate people telling us 628 00:35:04,663 --> 00:35:06,663 that Matt Johnson was the actual shooter, 629 00:35:06,698 --> 00:35:09,836 Jack Johnson and Garry Bright. 630 00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:12,146 Matt Johnson was responsible for giving us 631 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:14,594 so many details about this case. 632 00:35:14,629 --> 00:35:16,284 He had been our star witness. 633 00:35:16,318 --> 00:35:20,905 Our best witness throughout the whole case is the suspect. 634 00:35:20,939 --> 00:35:23,353 We decided that we needed to go talk to Matt again. 635 00:35:34,111 --> 00:35:36,663 And we start telling him what we know 636 00:35:36,698 --> 00:35:39,422 and who we've talked to. 637 00:35:39,456 --> 00:35:41,974 He kind of hangs his head. 638 00:35:42,008 --> 00:35:44,836 Matt said, "Look, I couldn't tell you this at the beginning, 639 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:48,836 but a lot of what I've told you is the absolute truth. 640 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:52,043 I just left out certain parts as this thing has gone on." 641 00:36:10,974 --> 00:36:12,905 And so that didn't satisfy Brian, 642 00:36:12,939 --> 00:36:15,560 so then he has the whole group all go 643 00:36:15,594 --> 00:36:17,698 and assault them one at a time. 644 00:36:25,422 --> 00:36:27,767 They forced Josh Bailey to get into 645 00:36:27,801 --> 00:36:31,318 Brian Minton's parents' SUV. 646 00:36:31,353 --> 00:36:32,836 Brian drove. 647 00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:35,663 Jacob Maxwell was in the front passenger seat. 648 00:36:35,698 --> 00:36:39,456 Matt Johnson was in the backseat. 649 00:36:39,491 --> 00:36:42,422 Jack Johnson was in the backseat in between them. 650 00:36:55,111 --> 00:36:59,111 They go to Twisted Oak Drive. It's late in the afternoon. 651 00:36:59,146 --> 00:37:02,698 They get out of the car and they go to the woods. 652 00:37:37,491 --> 00:37:40,008 Matt had a different look on his face, 653 00:37:40,043 --> 00:37:41,974 and so we knew we were really close. 654 00:37:42,008 --> 00:37:44,353 This is when Matt Johnson decided to tell us the truth 655 00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:46,077 about what happened to Josh. 656 00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:16,663 [gunshot] 657 00:38:16,698 --> 00:38:19,767 Matt shot him in the head and the body fell. 658 00:38:25,491 --> 00:38:27,456 [gunshot] 659 00:38:28,629 --> 00:38:32,249 I think Matt was relieved that it was finally over. 660 00:38:32,284 --> 00:38:36,077 Then we put him in the handcuffs and we arrested him. 661 00:38:36,111 --> 00:38:38,698 The whole time when Matt Johnson was helping us 662 00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:40,629 with the investigation into Josh Bailey, 663 00:38:40,663 --> 00:38:43,077 we were talking to the killer. 664 00:38:46,698 --> 00:38:48,077 We served a search warrant 665 00:38:48,111 --> 00:38:51,077 on Brian Minton's mother's sport utility vehicle. 666 00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:53,284 We towed it to the Orange County Sheriff's Office 667 00:38:53,318 --> 00:38:54,767 because according to Matt, 668 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:58,111 Josh Bailey was driven to the woods in that car. 669 00:38:58,146 --> 00:39:00,801 And we found a lot of evidence inside of it. 670 00:39:00,836 --> 00:39:03,318 We found some 9 millimeter rounds. 671 00:39:04,905 --> 00:39:06,698 We also found two receipts 672 00:39:06,732 --> 00:39:08,870 from Lowe's Home Improvement in Chapel Hill 673 00:39:08,905 --> 00:39:12,215 for two separate purchases of muriatic acid. 674 00:39:13,456 --> 00:39:16,387 After concluding the excavation, 675 00:39:16,422 --> 00:39:20,043 it was confirmed that muriatic acid 676 00:39:20,077 --> 00:39:22,905 had been poured on the remains. 677 00:39:22,939 --> 00:39:25,594 That's why the soles of the investigators' shoes 678 00:39:25,629 --> 00:39:28,698 disconnected from the shoe that they were wearing. 679 00:39:30,836 --> 00:39:34,111 Brian Minton was the Charles Manson. 680 00:39:34,146 --> 00:39:37,180 He ran the show, he dictated who did what. 681 00:39:37,215 --> 00:39:40,905 He was the most culpable of the group. 682 00:39:40,939 --> 00:39:44,318 Everyone put Brian at the scene of the crime 683 00:39:44,353 --> 00:39:47,043 and being the primary driver of the crime. 684 00:39:48,939 --> 00:39:52,456 Also we had physical evidence. 685 00:39:52,491 --> 00:39:56,594 We had Brian Minton's DNA on the fingertip 686 00:39:56,629 --> 00:40:00,732 of the latex glove that was with Josh's body. 687 00:40:03,215 --> 00:40:06,180 The most disturbing thing about this case 688 00:40:06,215 --> 00:40:09,629 was the participation of so many people. 689 00:40:09,663 --> 00:40:12,284 Jack Johnson was there. 690 00:40:12,318 --> 00:40:15,284 The gun was handed from Jacob Maxwell 691 00:40:15,318 --> 00:40:18,732 to Brian Minton to Matt Johnson. 692 00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:22,905 And Matt was told that he had to shoot Josh Bailey. 693 00:40:28,043 --> 00:40:31,594 Sometimes, we underestimate criminal activity 694 00:40:31,629 --> 00:40:33,180 as it relates to gangs. 695 00:40:33,215 --> 00:40:35,939 And this case really kind of exemplifies 696 00:40:35,974 --> 00:40:37,767 how far they are willing to go. 697 00:40:37,801 --> 00:40:42,629 I mean, it really was a case of kill or be killed. 698 00:40:42,663 --> 00:40:47,111 Brian Minton had such control over these gang members 699 00:40:47,146 --> 00:40:50,422 that they knew if they didn't kill on his order, 700 00:40:50,456 --> 00:40:53,905 at least they believed, he would kill them. 701 00:40:53,939 --> 00:40:55,215 Brian Minton has not 702 00:40:55,249 --> 00:40:58,525 only taken the life of Josh Bailey, indirectly, 703 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:04,077 he's also ruined the lives of an entire group of young people 704 00:41:04,111 --> 00:41:06,491 who potentially never would have been in that scenario 705 00:41:06,525 --> 00:41:10,043 and potentially never would have ended up in prison. 706 00:41:20,353 --> 00:41:24,629 Matt Johnson got 25 to 26 years in prison. 707 00:41:24,663 --> 00:41:29,456 Jack Johnson got a sentence of 25 years in prison. 708 00:41:29,491 --> 00:41:33,456 Jacob Maxwell got a minimum of 30 years in prison. 709 00:41:39,318 --> 00:41:42,767 Brian Minton got life without parole for murder, 710 00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:46,732 and then an additional 35 years for the other crimes, 711 00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:49,008 kidnapping and the conspiracies. 712 00:41:55,939 --> 00:42:01,008 According to Jack Johnson, Josh's last words were, 713 00:42:01,043 --> 00:42:03,491 "It wasn't me." 714 00:42:03,525 --> 00:42:06,318 So tragedy, no doubt. 715 00:42:06,353 --> 00:42:08,629 It should have never happened. 716 00:42:08,663 --> 00:42:11,594 But see, Matt wasn't a narc. That's just it. 717 00:42:11,629 --> 00:42:13,560 He wanted to be. 718 00:42:13,594 --> 00:42:16,974 He contacted the Chapel Hill Police Narcotics division, 719 00:42:17,008 --> 00:42:20,077 but then he failed to show up when he was supposed to. 720 00:42:20,111 --> 00:42:23,767 And then it fell apart, and he never told Josh that. 721 00:42:23,801 --> 00:42:28,594 So he was killed over just-- he was killed over nothing. 722 00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:31,077 Those men in the garage, 723 00:42:31,111 --> 00:42:33,560 they just felt like Josh was disposable. 724 00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:37,939 He was someone they could erase and no one would ever miss him. 725 00:42:37,974 --> 00:42:42,456 And Josh was not erasable. 726 00:42:44,043 --> 00:42:47,870 Josh made an impact in this world, 727 00:42:47,905 --> 00:42:51,801 and he is missed. 728 00:42:54,801 --> 00:42:57,284 Year and a half after Josh died, 729 00:42:57,318 --> 00:43:00,594 we decided that what happened to Josh didn't have to. 730 00:43:00,629 --> 00:43:04,698 And we came up with this idea 731 00:43:04,732 --> 00:43:07,180 to start Josh's Hope in Josh's memory 732 00:43:07,215 --> 00:43:10,560 and provide training and therapeutic support 733 00:43:10,594 --> 00:43:12,594 with the hope that it would prevent 734 00:43:12,629 --> 00:43:15,180 what happened to Josh from happening to others. 735 00:43:15,215 --> 00:43:19,111 We did that in the beginning as a survival technique. 736 00:43:19,146 --> 00:43:22,905 It gave us a purpose, and then it became an obsession 737 00:43:22,939 --> 00:43:27,215 and now it's like--you know, now we're passionate about it.