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What sets this killer apart
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is the ferocity
of his killings.
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This was not just one blow,
one stab, one shot.
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This was the complete
annihilation of a person.
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This is a repetitive
disfigurement.
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This is the removal of a fetus.
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This is a killer with a sense
of brutality towards women.
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What makes the killer twisted
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is the quick succession
of the killings
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and the overkill
of each one of them.
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This is the hardest type
of homicide investigation
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for any detective,
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because you know
he's going to strike again,
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and soon.
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[tense music]
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Middletown, New York.
We're a relatively small city.
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Population about 25,000 people.
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Was just a small town.
It was a safe town.
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Not a lot of crime.
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Back in the '90s,
the downtown
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became a very busy area.
It started flourishing, too,
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with more people
visiting the area.
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March 26, we got the call
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that a couple were walking on
a railroad track bed,
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and they saw what they thought
was a mannequin.
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Upon further investigation,
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they realized
it was a human body.
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I immediately responded
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with other detectives
to investigate.
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Upon arrival, I noticed what
appeared to be a female body
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laying on the ground.
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She was naked, and appeared
to have multiple stab wounds
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all over her face, her body.
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You could tell that
she had been cut open
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with a sharp object--her face,
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her neck, I believe
her upper breast area.
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And her body was posed,
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where her arms were laid out
on her sides,
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and her legs were
a little bit apart.
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She was very brutally stabbed,
brutally mutilated.
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Her face was
totally obliterated.
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You couldn't even tell anything
about her face
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at the time
we were on the scene.
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I've seen all sorts
of homicides in the past.
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This was one of
the worst cases of homicide
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that I've seen in my career.
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The body was very clean.
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It appeared to have
been washed up,
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so it was obviously that she
had been killed somewhere else
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and then transported there,
and then dumped there,
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and then posed there.
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A very, very strange
type of thing.
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So, we're formulated
a search pattern.
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We went from the point
of the body
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and worked our way outward
in different directions,
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looking for clues.
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There was a railroad tracks,
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and we were walking up
and down them,
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looking to see
if we could find something
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that may be pertinent
to the investigation.
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Specifically, tire track
marks,
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to see if she was dumped off
there,
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possibly footprints--any
type of evidence.
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One of the detectives
on the scene
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recognized one of the tattoos
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on her--I believe
it we also on her
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right arm--and thought
he may have known that tattoo.
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And he went back
to headquarters,
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pulled some photographs
out of an individual
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who had very similar tattooing,
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and it was determined
to be Juliana Frank.
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Juliana Frank from Middletown,
who I personally have known,
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but unfortunately,
due to the injuries,
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did not recognize her at all.
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It was shocking to see
who it was.
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It was someone
that I went to school with.
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Anytime somebody gets killed,
it cuts through you.
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But when you know the person,
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it cuts a little bit
more through you.
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What was going through my mind
was, "Who could have done this?
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What kind of animal could have
done this to this woman?"
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We had nothing
but a dead body
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that somebody had mutilated,
so it was important to seek out
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whoever was close
to Juliana Frank
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that could give us
some type of help.
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It was a Monday. It was about
1:30 in the afternoon.
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The phone rang, and it was
my mother-in-law, Beverly,
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and she said, "Toni Anne,
Julie's dead. Juliana's dead."
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I couldn't believe it. We went
to the coroner's office,
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and they left her arm out,
so we could see her tattoo.
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We walked a little closer,
and I kind of lost it,
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just from seeing
what was done up here.
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And then I didn't
see skin here.
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I just saw hollowness.
And the next thing I know,
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I was crying on the floor
in the office of the coroner.
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My husband,
I'd never seen him cry.
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He was just besides himself.
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Julie was a very,
very loving person.
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Very loving.
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At the time of the autopsy,
based upon the injuries,
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this was typical
of a crime of passion.
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A lot of overkill.
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This was multiple,
multiple stabbings,
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which we learned
was more than 40 times.
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And that's when the doctor,
the pathologist,
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discovered that she in fact
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was either four
or five months pregnant,
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and the killer
removed the fetus.
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It was gruesome. It was just
a terrible thing to see.
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And I said, "I never want
to see this again."
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She was pregnant,
and had been cut open.
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The fetus had been cut out.
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You had a horrific crime
against this person.
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The body had been washed.
She was posed.
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Compounded by what was done
to her fetus.
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When you have a suspect
that leaves women like this,
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it is so troubling,
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because they know that
she's going to be discovered.
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It was very deliberate,
and that was the intention.
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"I will humiliate you,
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and anyone
that comes across your body,
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I want them to know
and feel the humiliation."
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Obliterating someone's face,
someone's identity,
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seems to be an act by someone
who knew the victim,
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an act of rage at her,
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to the point where he just
wanted to destroy who she was,
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destroy her and her identity.
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The fetus was horrifically
removed from this mother-to-be.
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So, this is a-this is
a thought-out plan
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of desecrating this body.
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There's an element of rage,
of passion,
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of emotional behind this act.
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Generally, when you see
overkill, it's personal.
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We knew that Juliana Frank
was pregnant,
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and it gave us
a point of focus.
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We realized
that we should focus
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on whoever the father might be.
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We thought that might have been
a case
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where he did not want
Juliana Frank to have the baby.
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What we did next
was to fan out,
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and we started talking
to everybody
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who was associated
with Juliana Frank.
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Her friends were--many
of them
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were known to
the police department
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through different types
of dealings with them.
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I would refer to them
as a very rough group.
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We came across a female
that was known to her,
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name of Angela Colon.
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And when we conduct
the interviews with Angela,
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she gave us some initial
direction, right up front,
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of who had killed Juliana.
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That certainly got
our attention.
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Juliana Frank happened
to be over at a friend of hers
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on John Street
in Middletown, New York,
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and claimed that she saw
Juliana Frank being murdered
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by an individual, Hector.
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Angela Colon said, on Monday,
March 25,
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in the last morning hours,
she saw this guy, her friend,
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hector,
kill Juliana Frank,
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and roll her body up
into a carpet that was there.
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He then put the body
out front on the porch.
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Angela said there was a lot of
blood spatter on the walls,
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and they cleaned it
as best they could.
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So, we immediately started
looking for Hector
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as a suspect.
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We were notified
that there was a body
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found inside a residence.
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But now, we're having bodies
turn up,
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and it's started
to become alarming.
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It did cross my mind that
they could be the same killer.
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I was motivated to find
the killer of Juliana Frank,
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because I knew her,
and the injuries to her body
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were just literally
unbelievable, unconscionable.
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Who could have done this,
and why?
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Who could be this angry
at somebody?
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A statement was obtained
from her friend Angela Colon.
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She told us that she witnessed
a friend of hers, Hector,
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become violent
with Juliana Frank,
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and as a result of that
information being developed,
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I went out
and located the suspect.
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And in the interview room,
he was advised of his rights,
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Miranda warnings,
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which he waived--the
right to an attorney.
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I went at him probably
the toughest I've ever went
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at any individual
during an interview.
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I literally threw down
in front of him
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the photographs
of Juliana Frank,
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and showed him
the injuries to her,
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the mutilation of her face.
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But he put his hands together,
as though he was praying,
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on the opposite side of the
desk, in the interview room.
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He looked up to God,
to the ceiling,
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and he said, "God, please,
I didn't do this.
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I didn't kill this woman.
I didn't not kill her.
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I'm a friend of hers.
I wouldn't hurt her at all."
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Immediately, we applied
for a search warrant
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for his apartment.
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According to what Angela said,
you know,
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there should have been
quite a lot of blood.
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But we got word
from the Crime Scene Unit
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that they didn't discover any
type of significant evidence
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there of any homicide.
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And we all kind of thought,
"Wow, how come not?
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There had to be
some blood somewhere."
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I told a couple
of the detectives,
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"You gotta go bring
Angela Colon in again."
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And I sat with her myself.
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I said,
"We have a problem, Angela."
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I said, "This isn't
what happened."
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And with that, she turned away
and started sobbing.
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And I said, "The statement
you gave us yesterday is false.
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Is that correct?"
She said, 'Yes, it is."
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She said, "I lied about it."
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She said
that she felt pressured.
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She said she felt like
she had to tell the police
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what they wanted to hear.
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I don't know if she would
have done this out of fear,
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or she was just trying to
settled some type of a score.
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But she had made the entire
story up involving Hector.
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He had to be released.
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We didn't have any information
further to charge him with.
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It's frustrating.
It's frustrating.
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We wanted this thing solved.
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We wanted to get the guy
and get him quick,
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before evidence starts
to disappear.
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At Juliana's funeral,
where were lines out the door.
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Just more and more people came,
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because this family
was so known in the town.
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There were just
loads of people.
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But I know a lot of people came
because it was a murder case,
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you know, and they wanted
to be part of it.
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In crimes of passion, it's
usually a boyfriend or husband.
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We assigned a detective
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to attend the wake
from a distance,
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filming everybody
that's coming and going.
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The reason for that
is the suspect
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might just appear
to pay his respects.
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It's not uncommon
for murder suspects
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to attend the funeral of the
very person that they murder.
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Maybe the killer
was attending the funeral,
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because he wants to see
all the people
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who are there
mourning this victim,
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all there
because of what he did.
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He might get some satisfaction
from that.
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Inflicting physical
and likely emotional pain
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on their victim
was almost not enough,
249
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and have to take it
one step further
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in seeing the emotional pain
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that they have inflicted
on the family
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and loved ones of that person.
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It's this sick,
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twisted secret
that only they know about.
255
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So, yes, they can attend
the funeral services
256
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for that very purpose,
257
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to continue to hide
in plain sight.
258
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We had her parents,
including her brother,
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come to the PD
and look at the video,
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to see if they could
identify somebody
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that they weren't familiar
with, perhaps the bad guy.
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So, they looked at the video,
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and nothing ever
became of that.
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It's 1991.
We had no DNA. We had nothing.
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We had absolutely nothing.
266
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There came a point in time
267
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when all leads
virtually dried up,
268
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and the case started
to become cold at that point.
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It was July 10, 1992.
Around 12:00 noon,
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I received a call of a 1047,
which is an unattended death.
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I was working a shift
with the detective bureau,
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Criminal Investigation
Division, and we were notified
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00:15:54,663 --> 00:15:57,698
that there was a body
found inside a residence.
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A woman who lived nearby had
actually answered the apartment
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and found Ms. Laurette Huggins,
lying there naked on the floor.
276
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I was the first person there,
277
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and when I went
in that bedroom,
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there was a body in there.
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Female, no clothes,
arms over her head,
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with her legs spread open,
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and large gouge
in the side of her neck,
282
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and looked like
several puncture wounds
283
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in the middle of her chest.
284
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:40,180
It was a gruesome scene.
The living room was a mess.
285
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You could tell there
was a struggle there.
286
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Pretty shocking to see.
287
00:16:47,111 --> 00:16:50,939
She had obvious multiple
puncture wounds
288
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to her lower abdomen.
289
00:16:53,284 --> 00:16:57,663
She had a fair amount
of dried blood on her hands,
290
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which possibly indicated
that she put up a struggle,
291
00:17:00,594 --> 00:17:02,077
these were defensive.
292
00:17:02,111 --> 00:17:05,249
And it was obviously
she was posed this way,
293
00:17:05,905 --> 00:17:08,353
and not just pulled into
the room and dropped that way.
294
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Her legs were spread, probably,
295
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relatively as far as apart
as they could have gotten.
296
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It was a first-floor apartment.
297
00:17:21,215 --> 00:17:22,698
There were no apparent signs
of any type
298
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of forced entry on the door
or any damage to the door.
299
00:17:28,215 --> 00:17:30,491
There were boxes
in the living room,
300
00:17:30,525 --> 00:17:34,284
and the house was--looked like
people were moving out of it.
301
00:17:36,767 --> 00:17:39,077
The bulk of the boxes
were stamped the day before,
302
00:17:39,111 --> 00:17:42,318
so I knew now that she had
to have been in here
303
00:17:42,353 --> 00:17:44,043
less than 24 hours.
304
00:17:46,698 --> 00:17:49,422
And then I came across
a coat hanger.
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00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:51,905
It was flat on the floor.
306
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As I turned it over,
on the flat edge,
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00:17:56,353 --> 00:17:58,215
on the paper
of the coat hanger,
308
00:17:58,249 --> 00:17:59,974
there was
an obvious fingerprint.
309
00:18:01,111 --> 00:18:03,663
The fingerprint appeared
to be in blood.
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I was kind of hoping that
this was gonna be our suspect.
311
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On July 10, 1992,
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Laurette Huggins
was found inside her home,
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in the city of Middletown.
314
00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:27,180
Our body seemed
to have been posed.
315
00:18:27,215 --> 00:18:30,318
She had multiple stab wounds
all over her
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left side of her neck,
her back, her chest.
317
00:18:37,008 --> 00:18:39,180
While the crime scene
was being processed,
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00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:42,905
we got ahold of
Laurette Huggins' daughters
319
00:18:42,939 --> 00:18:46,008
and spoke with each of them,
trying to obtain information
320
00:18:46,801 --> 00:18:49,077
that could help us
try to solve this case.
321
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,077
We learned that
Laurette Huggins
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00:18:52,111 --> 00:18:54,043
was originally
from St. Vincent,
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00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:57,111
the island in the West Indies.
324
00:18:58,215 --> 00:19:00,939
She was separated,
estranged from her husband.
325
00:19:00,974 --> 00:19:03,560
actually, I believe
the marriage had been annulled
326
00:19:04,387 --> 00:19:05,939
after a short time.
327
00:19:05,974 --> 00:19:08,939
The victim was in the process
of moving out of the apartment
328
00:19:08,974 --> 00:19:10,629
and moving back
to the Caribbean.
329
00:19:11,663 --> 00:19:15,077
She apparently had worked her
regular job the night before,
330
00:19:15,111 --> 00:19:17,456
had gotten off work
in the evening.
331
00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:21,146
The house was a nice house,
on Bonnell Street.
332
00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,387
So, she wasn't
a street-type person.
333
00:19:23,422 --> 00:19:25,353
She wasn't out there
with a bad group.
334
00:19:28,111 --> 00:19:31,801
We knew we had a homicide
with no suspect.
335
00:19:31,836 --> 00:19:35,560
We'd like to find
whoever did this immediately.
336
00:19:37,318 --> 00:19:41,146
Juliana Frank was killed back
in March of 1991.
337
00:19:41,767 --> 00:19:44,111
And now we have
another victim
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00:19:44,146 --> 00:19:46,801
who is stabbed multiple times,
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00:19:46,836 --> 00:19:50,974
she is found naked, she is
found in a posed position.
340
00:19:51,008 --> 00:19:53,698
This began to make us
really wonder at this point,
341
00:19:53,732 --> 00:19:54,905
"Is this related?
342
00:19:54,939 --> 00:19:56,491
Is this too much
Hall of Fame a coincidence?
343
00:19:56,525 --> 00:19:58,870
Are we looking
at a single killer her?
344
00:19:58,905 --> 00:20:00,870
Is this the same person
that did this?"
345
00:20:02,525 --> 00:20:06,043
This is a small town.
There are not a lot of murders.
346
00:20:06,077 --> 00:20:10,422
And now, there are two
brutal stabbings of women.
347
00:20:11,663 --> 00:20:14,043
Is it possible
there's a killer in town?
348
00:20:14,801 --> 00:20:17,180
You have two female victims.
349
00:20:17,732 --> 00:20:21,698
They are both disrobed.
They're both posed.
350
00:20:21,732 --> 00:20:24,491
There's a possibility
of sexual assault.
351
00:20:24,525 --> 00:20:26,180
And most importantly,
352
00:20:26,215 --> 00:20:28,215
the manner in which
they were murdered,
353
00:20:28,249 --> 00:20:31,939
multiple stab wounds
to the upper torso.
354
00:20:31,974 --> 00:20:33,594
These are major red flags
355
00:20:33,629 --> 00:20:35,732
that these victims
are likely connected.
356
00:20:35,767 --> 00:20:39,698
But the strange thing is, these
crimes occurred one year apart.
357
00:20:42,974 --> 00:20:45,663
We were investigating
Laurette Huggins' murder,
358
00:20:45,698 --> 00:20:48,180
and it was becoming
extremely frustrating for us,
359
00:20:48,215 --> 00:20:51,043
because we didn't have
any solid leads.
360
00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:54,043
No real suspects
in this case at all.
361
00:20:54,077 --> 00:20:56,767
Nobody popped out
immediately at us.
362
00:20:59,249 --> 00:21:02,456
And then within about a week,
I was working a day shift,
363
00:21:03,146 --> 00:21:05,318
and a detective from the City
of Poughkeepsie
364
00:21:05,353 --> 00:21:06,870
Police Department
365
00:21:06,905 --> 00:21:11,387
came to our police headquarters
with flyers and information
366
00:21:11,422 --> 00:21:15,663
that he was investigating
two girls who were missing
367
00:21:17,249 --> 00:21:20,767
after a night out at the Blue
Note nightclub in Poughkeepsie.
368
00:21:22,111 --> 00:21:24,629
A woman from Poughkeepsie
named Angelina Hopkins,
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00:21:24,663 --> 00:21:26,146
who was 23 years old,
370
00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,836
and her cousin,
Brenda Whiteside,
371
00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:30,111
who was visiting
from Westchester County,
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00:21:32,008 --> 00:21:33,767
they went out
to the club Blue Note,
373
00:21:37,077 --> 00:21:38,732
and they never came home.
374
00:21:39,905 --> 00:21:41,939
Both their parents
went to the police.
375
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:46,491
The mother and sister
of Angelina Hopkins
376
00:21:46,525 --> 00:21:48,422
essentially began
their own investigation,
377
00:21:48,456 --> 00:21:50,146
and did a terrific job.
378
00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:55,077
Angelina's mother, she was
not going to sit still
379
00:21:55,111 --> 00:21:56,801
and wait
for something to happen.
380
00:21:57,801 --> 00:22:02,387
Fear and anger, and this
combustible brew of emotions
381
00:22:03,284 --> 00:22:05,146
started to get to be
too much for her,
382
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:06,870
and she had to do something.
383
00:22:06,905 --> 00:22:08,939
So she went with
her daughter Cecilia
384
00:22:08,974 --> 00:22:13,146
to the club Blue Note at night
and started asking questions.
385
00:22:16,008 --> 00:22:20,939
This is a 43-year-old woman,
who was talking to anyone
386
00:22:20,974 --> 00:22:22,939
who she could make eye contact
with,
387
00:22:22,974 --> 00:22:26,698
asking, "Where's my daughter?
Where's my niece?"
388
00:22:26,732 --> 00:22:28,870
She was absolutely fearless.
389
00:22:29,456 --> 00:22:31,939
They started going back
to the Blue Note bar
390
00:22:31,974 --> 00:22:35,491
and backtracking the steps--who
they were with
391
00:22:35,525 --> 00:22:37,008
and what had happened.
392
00:22:37,043 --> 00:22:40,560
Someone in the bar told them
that this gentleman had left
393
00:22:40,594 --> 00:22:43,284
with the girls on the night
they went missing.
394
00:22:43,318 --> 00:22:46,249
A light-skinned black man
in his early 30s,
395
00:22:46,284 --> 00:22:48,008
and he is in a car outside.
396
00:22:49,663 --> 00:22:52,594
So, Anna goes up to this man
and gets right in his face,
397
00:22:52,629 --> 00:22:55,318
and he denies
that he knows anything
398
00:22:55,353 --> 00:22:57,077
about Angelina Hopkins,
399
00:22:57,111 --> 00:22:58,801
he doesn't know
Brenda Whiteside.
400
00:23:00,525 --> 00:23:02,939
The sister jotted down
the plate number,
401
00:23:03,767 --> 00:23:05,180
and she was able to turn
that over
402
00:23:05,215 --> 00:23:07,939
to the City of Poughkeepsie
Police Department.
403
00:23:09,077 --> 00:23:11,008
And Poughkeepsie
forwarded it on to us.
404
00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:15,870
Once you have the license
plate number,
405
00:23:15,905 --> 00:23:18,525
you can-you can get
a lot of information.
406
00:23:19,594 --> 00:23:22,663
We knew that the person
that was driving the car
407
00:23:22,698 --> 00:23:25,284
and had left with the girls
from the Blue
408
00:23:25,318 --> 00:23:28,215
Note bar in Poughkeepsie
was Nathaniel White.
409
00:23:32,215 --> 00:23:34,180
When I heard the name
Nathaniel White,
410
00:23:34,215 --> 00:23:39,732
my ears went up.
Back in 1986,
411
00:23:39,767 --> 00:23:42,077
he committed an armed robbery
in the New Windsor,
412
00:23:42,111 --> 00:23:47,318
New York area.
While he was on parole,
413
00:23:47,353 --> 00:23:49,870
he abducted a girl
off the street,
414
00:23:50,422 --> 00:23:53,594
and he was subsequently charged
with unlawful imprisonment.
415
00:23:53,629 --> 00:23:55,939
He was also charged
with violation of parole,
416
00:23:55,974 --> 00:24:00,525
and he did another year,
and he got out of jail in 1992.
417
00:24:03,249 --> 00:24:04,663
So, we have two murders,
418
00:24:04,698 --> 00:24:06,801
and now these two girls
have gone missing,
419
00:24:07,353 --> 00:24:09,043
last seen with Nathaniel White.
420
00:24:09,939 --> 00:24:12,008
Could this guy possibly
be involved?
421
00:24:14,043 --> 00:24:16,180
Before we were able to
pick up Nathaniel White
422
00:24:16,215 --> 00:24:19,525
for questioning,
a third murder occurred.
423
00:24:25,077 --> 00:24:28,905
The similarities between
the cases were striking.
424
00:24:28,939 --> 00:24:30,974
All of these victims
were stabbed.
425
00:24:32,008 --> 00:24:33,698
All of them were found nude.
426
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,456
All of them were found posed
in a similar pose.
427
00:24:39,215 --> 00:24:40,732
Normally, you don't
pose people.
428
00:24:40,767 --> 00:24:43,560
You kill them, you rob them,
you do whatever, and you leave.
429
00:24:43,594 --> 00:24:44,974
You don't pose them.
430
00:24:55,146 --> 00:24:56,905
We were aware
that the two girls
431
00:24:56,939 --> 00:24:58,111
from Poughkeepsie were missing.
432
00:24:58,146 --> 00:24:59,249
The family had determined
433
00:24:59,284 --> 00:25:02,077
that the person
that was driving the car
434
00:25:02,111 --> 00:25:05,353
and had left with the girls
from the Blue Note bar
435
00:25:05,387 --> 00:25:07,732
in Poughkeepsie
was Nathaniel White.
436
00:25:09,974 --> 00:25:12,353
It was determined
that we needed to pick up
437
00:25:12,387 --> 00:25:14,077
Nathaniel White
and speak to him.
438
00:25:15,801 --> 00:25:18,387
On the morning of July 30,
1992,
439
00:25:18,422 --> 00:25:20,318
the state police
received a call.
440
00:25:22,456 --> 00:25:25,215
A man--I believe
he was walking his dogs--had
441
00:25:25,249 --> 00:25:28,801
located a body
of a deceased female.
442
00:25:29,974 --> 00:25:33,456
The body was found
on a dirt driveway.
443
00:25:34,146 --> 00:25:38,491
The driveway went up toward
a abandoned restaurant.
444
00:25:42,387 --> 00:25:44,318
The victim was unclothed
445
00:25:44,836 --> 00:25:48,663
and appeared to be posed
in a spread position.
446
00:25:48,698 --> 00:25:50,008
It was determined
447
00:25:50,043 --> 00:25:52,353
that the victim
had been stabbed 47 times.
448
00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:59,698
Normally, you don't
pose people.
449
00:25:59,732 --> 00:26:02,594
You kill them, you rob them,
you do whatever, and you leave.
450
00:26:02,629 --> 00:26:04,318
You don't pose them.
451
00:26:06,491 --> 00:26:09,111
Our first step is identify
the victim.
452
00:26:09,836 --> 00:26:11,663
Different police departments
were notified,
453
00:26:11,698 --> 00:26:14,146
and they see if they can match
missing persons.
454
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:17,801
And the victim was identified
the next day by family members.
455
00:26:17,836 --> 00:26:19,525
Her name was Adriane Hunter.
456
00:26:21,698 --> 00:26:24,353
Now, we certainly realized
there's a problem,
457
00:26:24,387 --> 00:26:27,974
because to have two homicides
within a space of weeks
458
00:26:28,905 --> 00:26:30,594
is certainly troubling.
459
00:26:32,043 --> 00:26:34,491
20 days before Adriane
Hunter,
460
00:26:34,525 --> 00:26:36,491
Laurette Huggins
was also stabbed
461
00:26:36,525 --> 00:26:38,215
multiple times in her home.
462
00:26:38,767 --> 00:26:41,836
And then the homicide
of Juliana Frank a year
463
00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:43,560
and a half or so earlier.
464
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,698
The similarities between
the cases were striking.
465
00:26:48,732 --> 00:26:50,767
All of these victims
were stabbed.
466
00:26:51,767 --> 00:26:53,456
All of them were found nude.
467
00:26:54,318 --> 00:26:57,249
All of them were found
posed in a similar pose.
468
00:26:58,111 --> 00:27:01,732
And in between, two girls are
missing now, from Poughkeepsie.
469
00:27:05,284 --> 00:27:08,111
I'm sure many people
were feeling very uneasy.
470
00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:10,180
It was all happening
in a very,
471
00:27:10,215 --> 00:27:11,939
very short period of time.
472
00:27:13,732 --> 00:27:16,801
If all these women
who were victimized,
473
00:27:16,836 --> 00:27:19,939
murdered and missing,
are related,
474
00:27:20,939 --> 00:27:23,836
and were perpetrated
by the same person,
475
00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:27,870
his conduct is escalating.
That is a spree killer.
476
00:27:27,905 --> 00:27:32,111
A spree killer is someone who
kills with a sense of urgency.
477
00:27:33,008 --> 00:27:36,801
They could kill every week,
every month,
478
00:27:36,836 --> 00:27:38,939
but there's a sense of pattern
479
00:27:38,974 --> 00:27:41,801
in how they are committing
their murders.
480
00:27:41,836 --> 00:27:44,387
They're strategic.
They're on the hunt.
481
00:27:44,422 --> 00:27:45,974
What sets this killer apart
482
00:27:46,008 --> 00:27:48,353
is the ferocity
of his killings,
483
00:27:48,387 --> 00:27:51,663
the ability to annihilate
a body,
484
00:27:51,698 --> 00:27:54,077
to cut a fetus
from a woman's body.
485
00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:56,870
And the length of time
between killings
486
00:27:56,905 --> 00:27:59,043
is just getting shorter
and shorter,
487
00:27:59,077 --> 00:28:01,594
and the body count
is just gonna get higher
488
00:28:01,629 --> 00:28:03,732
and higher
over a short period of time,
489
00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:05,456
until someone stops
this person.
490
00:28:08,663 --> 00:28:10,111
We learned there was
a direct link
491
00:28:10,146 --> 00:28:13,560
between Nathaniel White
and the two women,
492
00:28:13,594 --> 00:28:15,905
Adriane Hunter
and Laurette Huggins.
493
00:28:17,698 --> 00:28:21,249
Laurette Huggins had been
a neighbor of Nathaniel White.
494
00:28:21,284 --> 00:28:23,215
It was also determined,
495
00:28:23,249 --> 00:28:26,767
when we did neighborhood
interviews on Harriman Drive,
496
00:28:26,801 --> 00:28:29,249
where the body
of Adriane Hunter was found,
497
00:28:29,284 --> 00:28:31,284
that Nathaniel White
had previously
498
00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:33,732
lived on Harriman Drive
at the end of the road.
499
00:28:36,111 --> 00:28:39,594
We needed to locate
and pick up Nathaniel White
500
00:28:39,629 --> 00:28:42,353
and speak to him.
501
00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:44,870
There was three teams
sent out to his house.
502
00:28:45,939 --> 00:28:48,422
Knocked on the door.
There was no answer.
503
00:28:49,008 --> 00:28:51,353
There did not appear
to be anybody at home.
504
00:28:54,111 --> 00:28:56,387
We parked down the road,
and we waited.
505
00:28:58,767 --> 00:29:00,284
A very short time later,
506
00:29:00,318 --> 00:29:02,491
a male and a female
exited the residence
507
00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:05,663
and were driving
in the direction
508
00:29:05,698 --> 00:29:07,387
of the city of Middletown.
509
00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:11,008
We identified the driver
as being Nathaniel White
510
00:29:11,043 --> 00:29:14,318
and the passenger as being
his live-in girlfriend,
511
00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,043
Jill Garrison.
512
00:29:16,939 --> 00:29:18,629
And we brought the car
to a stop.
513
00:29:20,525 --> 00:29:22,111
We knew the license plate
was stolen,
514
00:29:22,146 --> 00:29:24,180
so we wanted to approach
is where we were gonna speak
515
00:29:24,215 --> 00:29:26,111
to him about
the stolen license plate.
516
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:34,491
After he was arrested
on that,
517
00:29:34,525 --> 00:29:36,629
he was brought to the Troop
F headquarters
518
00:29:36,663 --> 00:29:38,974
in the town of Wallkill
here in Orange County,
519
00:29:39,663 --> 00:29:42,008
and that's when the question
began in earnest.
520
00:29:46,629 --> 00:29:48,629
He was advised
of his Miranda warnings.
521
00:29:48,663 --> 00:29:50,560
Had no interest
in having an attorney.
522
00:29:51,491 --> 00:29:53,663
When we asked him
about the missing
523
00:29:53,698 --> 00:29:55,043
girls from Poughkeepsie,
524
00:29:55,077 --> 00:29:57,180
he claims that he had dropped
them off down the street
525
00:29:57,215 --> 00:29:59,732
and doesn't know what happened
to them since then.
526
00:30:02,974 --> 00:30:05,284
He said he did not know
Adriane Hunter,
527
00:30:06,043 --> 00:30:08,939
and when we asked him
about Laurette Huggins,
528
00:30:08,974 --> 00:30:10,560
he said he was familiar
with her,
529
00:30:10,594 --> 00:30:12,249
but really, at that point,
530
00:30:12,284 --> 00:30:14,077
could offer us
no other information.
531
00:30:16,146 --> 00:30:19,456
His demeanor was very calm.
He never raised his voice.
532
00:30:19,491 --> 00:30:21,836
He never cursed.
He never became upset.
533
00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:25,525
But would make no admissions as
to harming any of these women.
534
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,836
We were reaching a stalemate.
535
00:30:32,974 --> 00:30:34,422
There comes a time
when the interviewers
536
00:30:34,456 --> 00:30:36,318
have reached the wall.
537
00:30:36,353 --> 00:30:39,043
They're not gathering
any more information,
538
00:30:39,077 --> 00:30:41,215
and it's time to use
a different technique.
539
00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:44,043
It was decided then
that we were gonna offer
540
00:30:44,077 --> 00:30:46,353
to let him take
a polygraph examination.
541
00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:49,387
At approximately 1:30
in the morning
542
00:30:49,422 --> 00:30:51,422
on the morning of August 4,
543
00:30:52,146 --> 00:30:56,180
I was advised that I would be
administering Mr. White
544
00:30:56,215 --> 00:30:57,422
a polygraph examination
545
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,284
to determine
whether or not he was
546
00:30:59,318 --> 00:31:01,698
or was not involved
with the Huggins homicide.
547
00:31:02,456 --> 00:31:05,732
That's when Nathaniel White
changed his story.
548
00:31:16,974 --> 00:31:18,801
The polygraph, at this point,
549
00:31:18,836 --> 00:31:20,491
became a very important
investigative tool
550
00:31:21,215 --> 00:31:23,077
to determine
whether Nathaniel White
551
00:31:23,111 --> 00:31:24,801
was telling the truth or not.
552
00:31:26,801 --> 00:31:29,560
I've been doing polygraphs
for quite some time.
553
00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:32,525
It's stressful. It's up to you
to go into a room
554
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,767
and determine,
at the end of the day,
555
00:31:34,801 --> 00:31:36,594
is he or isn't
he telling the truth?
556
00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:41,077
We decided that we were gonna
do the polygraph
557
00:31:41,111 --> 00:31:42,974
on the Laurette Huggins
homicide.
558
00:31:47,043 --> 00:31:50,560
We picked the crime that we had
the most information about.
559
00:31:51,146 --> 00:31:53,560
We knew the location,
we knew the time of death.
560
00:31:56,043 --> 00:31:58,836
He had initially told us
that he had seen her
561
00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:01,284
three days prior
to her homicide.
562
00:32:03,732 --> 00:32:05,974
She had brought back
some cardboard boxes
563
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,249
to what appeared to be,
like,
564
00:32:08,284 --> 00:32:10,318
to pack some last-minute
belongings into.
565
00:32:13,422 --> 00:32:15,284
He claimed that he had helped
her, on Tuesday,
566
00:32:15,318 --> 00:32:18,043
the 7th of July,
carry the boxes into the house.
567
00:32:18,801 --> 00:32:21,077
What was very important
with the boxes, however,
568
00:32:21,111 --> 00:32:24,249
is that they were date-stamped.
They were egg carton boxes,
569
00:32:24,284 --> 00:32:29,180
and the store date-stamped them
to that Friday, July 10,
570
00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:30,939
the day that she was murdered.
571
00:32:31,629 --> 00:32:34,732
Therefore, if in fact
he did help her with the boxes,
572
00:32:34,767 --> 00:32:36,146
it had to be
the day of the murder,
573
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:37,974
not three days prior
to the murder.
574
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,180
It was clear to me,
as a polygraphist,
575
00:32:44,215 --> 00:32:45,525
that he was not
telling the truth
576
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,698
about whether or not
he had been
577
00:32:46,732 --> 00:32:48,767
in Mrs. Huggins' residence
on July 10.
578
00:32:51,077 --> 00:32:54,939
But Nathaniel White
totally denied killing anybody.
579
00:32:57,663 --> 00:33:00,146
And then Investigator McCoy
confronted him
580
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,077
with the bloody fingerprint
581
00:33:02,111 --> 00:33:04,629
that I found on the coat hanger
in the living room.
582
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,008
And after a period of time,
he broke down.
583
00:33:17,318 --> 00:33:20,249
Mr. White ultimately admitted
that he in fact
584
00:33:20,284 --> 00:33:22,939
had killed Ms. Huggins.
585
00:33:28,422 --> 00:33:32,767
He said he went with her into
the apartment with the boxes.
586
00:33:32,801 --> 00:33:36,491
Helped her. He said they
engaged in sexual intercourse.
587
00:33:36,525 --> 00:33:38,456
He said that was not
the first time.
588
00:33:38,491 --> 00:33:43,491
They got angry. She in fact
cut him on his left forearm,
589
00:33:43,525 --> 00:33:45,629
and that as a result of that,
590
00:33:45,663 --> 00:33:48,732
he stabbed her repeatedly
with a pair of scissors.
591
00:33:49,525 --> 00:33:51,077
Primarily in the area
of the neck,
592
00:33:51,111 --> 00:33:52,491
when she was laying
on the floor,
593
00:33:52,525 --> 00:33:54,180
first in the living room,
594
00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:56,801
and then dragged her body
into the bedroom.
595
00:33:56,836 --> 00:33:58,594
He continued to stab her
596
00:33:58,629 --> 00:34:02,249
and then left her
posed in the bedroom.
597
00:34:02,284 --> 00:34:05,353
And he claims that he had seen
that in a vampire movie.
598
00:34:08,284 --> 00:34:11,663
I advised Mr. White
that the simple fact
599
00:34:11,698 --> 00:34:14,249
is the punishment
600
00:34:14,284 --> 00:34:18,939
doesn't change from the number
of homicides that you commit,
601
00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:22,387
and that I believed that he was
involved with the Hunter case.
602
00:34:25,353 --> 00:34:28,491
At that point, he said,
"Yes, I killed. Ms. Hunter."
603
00:34:32,422 --> 00:34:35,387
Said he saw her walking
in Middletown, near a bank.
604
00:34:35,422 --> 00:34:37,732
Told her that they could
go do drugs together.
605
00:34:38,422 --> 00:34:43,077
Drove down to Harriman Drive.
Had intercourse in the car.
606
00:34:44,215 --> 00:34:46,629
He said that she actually
asked him for money,
607
00:34:46,663 --> 00:34:48,525
which infuriated him.
608
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,318
At that time, he said,
he punched her several times,
609
00:34:52,353 --> 00:34:56,180
causing her to fall down
and become unconscious.
610
00:34:57,249 --> 00:35:01,836
He retrieved a ten-inch butcher
knife from his vehicle,
611
00:35:02,525 --> 00:35:07,318
and he stabbed Ms. Hunter,
I believe, over 47 times.
612
00:35:10,111 --> 00:35:12,215
Jim McCoy then mentioned
613
00:35:12,249 --> 00:35:14,077
to him the girls
from Poughkeepsie,
614
00:35:14,111 --> 00:35:16,732
Brenda Whiteside
and Angelina Hopkins.
615
00:35:18,249 --> 00:35:19,491
I told Mr. White
616
00:35:19,525 --> 00:35:22,767
that Hopkins' mother
was very distraught
617
00:35:22,801 --> 00:35:25,491
in looking for her daughter,
and it just wasn't right.
618
00:35:26,456 --> 00:35:29,077
He put his head down,
and he said, "Yeah."
619
00:35:29,111 --> 00:35:30,836
He said, "I killed them."
620
00:35:33,525 --> 00:35:35,939
He said they left
the Blue Note bar.
621
00:35:35,974 --> 00:35:37,594
Once they were
at Harriman Drive,
622
00:35:37,629 --> 00:35:40,663
he had Angelina Hopkins
go with him into the woods.
623
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:45,008
He claimed that they had
sexual relations in the woods,
624
00:35:45,043 --> 00:35:48,077
and when he was done,
he had her turn around,
625
00:35:48,111 --> 00:35:51,180
and struck her with
a large piece of metal
626
00:35:51,215 --> 00:35:52,939
that was back in the woods.
627
00:35:54,008 --> 00:35:58,284
Strick her in the head once
or twice. She was still alive.
628
00:35:58,318 --> 00:36:01,353
Went back to the car
and told Brenda Whiteside,
629
00:36:01,387 --> 00:36:03,215
who was waiting in the car,
630
00:36:03,249 --> 00:36:05,767
that her friend needed
her back in the woods.
631
00:36:05,801 --> 00:36:09,939
And when they got in the
vicinity of where Angelina was,
632
00:36:09,974 --> 00:36:14,043
he also struck Brenda Whiteside
with that same piece of metal.
633
00:36:15,146 --> 00:36:16,698
He said he continued
to strike them
634
00:36:16,732 --> 00:36:18,939
when they were on the ground
until he was exhausted,
635
00:36:18,974 --> 00:36:21,180
until he couldn't pick up
the weight anymore.
636
00:36:25,456 --> 00:36:28,284
He just admitted that,
"Yes, I killed this one.
637
00:36:28,318 --> 00:36:31,801
Yes, I killed that one."
And he went for each one.
638
00:36:34,491 --> 00:36:37,594
He told me that
the first person
639
00:36:37,629 --> 00:36:39,663
that he killed
was Juliana Frank.
640
00:36:43,008 --> 00:36:45,594
When he confessed to killing
Juliana Frank,
641
00:36:45,629 --> 00:36:47,801
then we understood.
642
00:36:47,836 --> 00:36:52,180
He was locked up April 1991
to April 1992.
643
00:36:52,215 --> 00:36:54,732
In between
the Juliana Frank murder
644
00:36:54,767 --> 00:36:56,456
and Laurette Huggins murder,
645
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:59,284
White was in jail,
and he couldn't kill.
646
00:36:59,318 --> 00:37:01,422
That's why there was a gap
over a year
647
00:37:01,456 --> 00:37:03,249
between his first
and second murder.
648
00:37:04,939 --> 00:37:06,629
While he's in prison
for a year,
649
00:37:07,491 --> 00:37:10,387
after killing Juliana,
nobody asks him about it,
650
00:37:10,422 --> 00:37:12,387
so he's kind of emboldened
by it.
651
00:37:12,422 --> 00:37:14,594
He feels like,
"Wow, I got away with it."
652
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:20,077
He sat in prison, and he just
became a pressure cooker.
653
00:37:20,732 --> 00:37:23,284
And when he came out,
he just exploded.
654
00:37:23,318 --> 00:37:25,594
He wanted to kill more,
and he did.
655
00:37:26,387 --> 00:37:28,180
The pressure has
been released,
656
00:37:28,215 --> 00:37:31,732
and this killer has found
this way
657
00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:35,767
of releasing those emotions,
and there's no turning back,
658
00:37:35,801 --> 00:37:40,698
especially given the likelihood
of the gratification
659
00:37:40,732 --> 00:37:43,077
and potentially joy and release
660
00:37:43,111 --> 00:37:46,008
that this person would have
experienced with that killing.
661
00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:51,491
He said that he had met
Juliana Frank on the street,
662
00:37:52,077 --> 00:37:54,905
and they drove down by the
railroad tracks in Middletown.
663
00:37:55,732 --> 00:37:57,870
They had engaged
in consensual acts,
664
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:01,905
and, again, during
or shortly after,
665
00:38:02,698 --> 00:38:06,560
that she had asked him
for money, which angered him,
666
00:38:07,111 --> 00:38:12,387
and that he punched her several
times, causing her to fall.
667
00:38:14,974 --> 00:38:17,525
Said he then stabbed
her multiple times
668
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,525
and cut open her belly.
669
00:38:22,767 --> 00:38:25,077
He said he didn't know
that she was pregnant
670
00:38:25,111 --> 00:38:26,732
when he killed her.
671
00:38:26,767 --> 00:38:29,146
But after that,
for some reason,
672
00:38:29,180 --> 00:38:30,974
he had a thirst for blood.
673
00:38:43,318 --> 00:38:46,491
Nathaniel White confessed
to these five homicides:
674
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,146
Juliana Frank, Adriane Hunter,
and Laurette Huggins,
675
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:55,491
all stabbed,
and them two girls missing
676
00:38:55,525 --> 00:38:57,801
from the Blue Note nightclub
in Poughkeepsie.
677
00:39:00,801 --> 00:39:02,215
Nathaniel White
took the police
678
00:39:02,249 --> 00:39:05,111
to the location of the bodies
of Hopkins and Whiteside,
679
00:39:06,698 --> 00:39:08,939
and the police,
using search dogs,
680
00:39:08,974 --> 00:39:11,008
located their remains,
681
00:39:11,043 --> 00:39:14,387
and then also,
after a very hard search,
682
00:39:14,422 --> 00:39:17,491
located the skeletal remains
of a female child.
683
00:39:23,836 --> 00:39:25,732
Nathaniel White admitted
to the murder
684
00:39:25,767 --> 00:39:27,560
of 14-year-old
Christine Klebbe,
685
00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:30,525
who had disappeared
from her home in Goshen.
686
00:39:34,249 --> 00:39:35,870
Christine Klebbe,
687
00:39:35,905 --> 00:39:39,525
who had disappeared
a short time earlier,
688
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,008
happened to be the niece of
Nathaniel White's girlfriend.
689
00:39:45,043 --> 00:39:47,180
We knew she was missing,
but we did not know
690
00:39:47,215 --> 00:39:48,939
that she was a homicide victim.
691
00:39:49,905 --> 00:39:52,767
During subsequent interview
with Investigator McCoy,
692
00:39:52,801 --> 00:39:55,560
Nathaniel White admitted
to killing Christine Klebbe.
693
00:39:56,180 --> 00:40:00,077
His difficulty in admitting
that he had killed Christine
694
00:40:00,111 --> 00:40:02,215
was because
he felt it was family,
695
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:04,732
that he had actually
hurt his family.
696
00:40:08,318 --> 00:40:10,249
I don't think he actually
kidnapped her.
697
00:40:10,284 --> 00:40:12,732
He enticed her
into getting into his car,
698
00:40:12,767 --> 00:40:14,422
and they went for a ride.
699
00:40:15,422 --> 00:40:17,249
They then went
and bought beer.
700
00:40:17,284 --> 00:40:21,215
Said that he went with her
to an isolated road.
701
00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:25,043
He said he told her to
follow him back into the woods,
702
00:40:26,146 --> 00:40:27,870
and killed her.
703
00:40:33,146 --> 00:40:39,077
The only explanation that
Nathaniel ever gave as to why
704
00:40:39,111 --> 00:40:41,629
he had committed
these acts--he said,
705
00:40:41,663 --> 00:40:44,456
for some reason,
he had a thirst for blood.
706
00:40:45,318 --> 00:40:47,801
He couldn't explain it.
It was just there.
707
00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:49,249
He was motivated by one thing,
708
00:40:49,284 --> 00:40:52,594
and I think that was
his sexual appetite.
709
00:40:54,146 --> 00:40:57,732
Nathaniel alleged
that after engaging
710
00:40:57,767 --> 00:41:00,043
with a sexual encounter
with these women,
711
00:41:00,077 --> 00:41:01,629
that they asked him for money,
712
00:41:01,663 --> 00:41:05,698
and as a result he became
outraged and he murdered them.
713
00:41:05,732 --> 00:41:08,077
But we have to ask ourselves,
is this true?
714
00:41:08,111 --> 00:41:10,836
These women were not known
sex workers,
715
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:14,353
and we don't actually even know
if they engaged in sexual acts.
716
00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:17,698
And so what was the true
motivation behind these crimes?
717
00:41:17,732 --> 00:41:19,732
Maybe these women
were rejecting him,
718
00:41:19,767 --> 00:41:22,732
and he didn't like rejection,
so that's why he killed them.
719
00:41:24,905 --> 00:41:29,146
Nathaniel White--every case
that he was involved with,
720
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:31,939
there was a certain degree
of brutality attached to it.
721
00:41:34,111 --> 00:41:36,629
Nathaniel White was
subsequently charged
722
00:41:36,663 --> 00:41:38,353
with all six murders.
723
00:41:43,008 --> 00:41:45,353
After he was in jail
for a few days,
724
00:41:45,387 --> 00:41:47,180
news media came to the jail
725
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:51,249
and requested the opportunity
to interview Mr. White in jail.
726
00:42:24,111 --> 00:42:26,594
The trial lasted
at least four weeks.
727
00:42:26,629 --> 00:42:31,387
There were probably almost
70 prosecution witnesses.
728
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,249
You certainly feel
for the victims,
729
00:42:35,284 --> 00:42:37,491
the families that were sitting
in court through the trial,
730
00:42:37,525 --> 00:42:38,939
that had to listen
to the details
731
00:42:38,974 --> 00:42:41,456
of the killing
of their loved ones.
732
00:42:42,249 --> 00:42:44,594
So, I think
there was some relief
733
00:42:44,629 --> 00:42:48,043
that he was convicted
without any doubt.
734
00:42:51,215 --> 00:42:54,525
Nathaniel White was sentenced
to consecutive terms
735
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,353
of 25 years to life in prison
on each of the murder counts,
736
00:42:59,456 --> 00:43:04,008
which led to an aggregate
of 150 years to life in prison.
737
00:43:08,284 --> 00:43:12,594
The families of all
six victims were ecstatic
738
00:43:12,629 --> 00:43:15,594
when the guilty verdict
was read in court.
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00:43:15,629 --> 00:43:17,767
They hugged, they kissed,
they cried,
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00:43:18,732 --> 00:43:21,939
and they were thanking-thanking
the good Lord.