1 00:00:02,663 --> 00:00:04,456 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,491 --> 00:00:07,560 Here's a man who sets out to become the world's 3 00:00:07,594 --> 00:00:10,387 most famous serial killer. 4 00:00:10,422 --> 00:00:12,043 5 00:00:12,077 --> 00:00:16,111 A man who decides that would be the ultimate profession. 6 00:00:16,146 --> 00:00:19,663 He gets himself a shotgun. He gets himself a hitlist. 7 00:00:19,698 --> 00:00:24,043 He's calling people to talk about what he's done. 8 00:00:24,077 --> 00:00:26,525 He's bragging about what he's done. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,905 He wants the world to know who he is 10 00:00:28,939 --> 00:00:31,732 and what he's capable of. 11 00:00:31,767 --> 00:00:34,008 [tense music] 12 00:00:34,043 --> 00:00:37,525 13 00:00:41,732 --> 00:00:44,491 [soft dramatic music] 14 00:00:44,525 --> 00:00:47,422 Columbia, South Carolina is a Southern town. 15 00:00:47,456 --> 00:00:49,215 That's the only way I can describe it. 16 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:51,663 People are friendly. People know each other. 17 00:00:51,698 --> 00:00:53,560 Everybody gets along. 18 00:00:53,594 --> 00:00:55,905 It is a peaceful place to live. 19 00:00:55,939 --> 00:00:57,974 Most folks are hardworking folks. 20 00:00:58,008 --> 00:01:02,353 I think most people feel safe. I think they did in 2002. 21 00:01:05,939 --> 00:01:10,732 It was around 4:45 a.m. when we got two different calls 22 00:01:10,767 --> 00:01:12,939 from passersbys on the highway 23 00:01:12,974 --> 00:01:16,525 that saw the fire in the dead-end of Oakway Road 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,249 which was, like, a side road off the beaten path 25 00:01:20,284 --> 00:01:22,249 that backed up to an interstate. 26 00:01:22,284 --> 00:01:25,732 The fire department responded. They put the fire out 27 00:01:25,767 --> 00:01:27,318 and that's when they realized they had a body. 28 00:01:27,353 --> 00:01:30,077 29 00:01:30,111 --> 00:01:33,525 I received a page from our desk sergeant. 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,318 So I get there in a grassy area next to the highway. 31 00:01:38,353 --> 00:01:39,318 32 00:01:39,353 --> 00:01:43,077 There was a nude, burned body. 33 00:01:43,111 --> 00:01:46,387 Appeared to be an African American female. 34 00:01:46,422 --> 00:01:47,560 She had been shot. 35 00:01:47,594 --> 00:01:51,215 The back of her head had an exit wound. 36 00:01:51,249 --> 00:01:54,732 I noticed right away that her leg was 37 00:01:54,767 --> 00:01:59,043 kind of deformed-looking like it had been shot in half. 38 00:01:59,077 --> 00:02:02,077 39 00:02:02,111 --> 00:02:03,525 And there were several empty 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,353 12-gauge shotgun shell casings. 41 00:02:05,387 --> 00:02:06,732 42 00:02:06,767 --> 00:02:08,801 Every run-of-the-day murder doesn't usually happen 43 00:02:08,836 --> 00:02:13,284 with a 12-gauge shotgun. 44 00:02:13,318 --> 00:02:15,594 It's just a huge projectile 45 00:02:15,629 --> 00:02:19,353 that is devastating to the human body. 46 00:02:19,387 --> 00:02:21,905 Any time you see a human treated in this manner, 47 00:02:21,939 --> 00:02:24,663 with this kind of brutality, it becomes personal 48 00:02:24,698 --> 00:02:28,008 to an investigator. It's just horrific what we see 49 00:02:28,043 --> 00:02:31,594 that humans can do to other humans. 50 00:02:31,629 --> 00:02:33,077 There was no identity. 51 00:02:33,111 --> 00:02:35,456 There were no personal belongings. 52 00:02:35,491 --> 00:02:39,387 There were some clothes that were found nearby her body 53 00:02:39,422 --> 00:02:42,387 but other than that, we had no idea who she was. 54 00:02:42,422 --> 00:02:44,767 The body was so completely burned. 55 00:02:44,801 --> 00:02:48,491 There weren't any identifying characteristics about her. 56 00:02:48,525 --> 00:02:50,663 57 00:02:50,698 --> 00:02:56,077 So we began this investigation with a Jane Doe female. 58 00:02:56,111 --> 00:02:58,801 I notified a fellow investigator to come out 59 00:02:58,836 --> 00:03:02,767 who worked on our arson unit. 60 00:03:02,801 --> 00:03:06,974 He had a device that would detect accelerants 61 00:03:07,008 --> 00:03:09,353 and when he came out it showed 62 00:03:09,387 --> 00:03:14,387 that there had been accelerants used to set her on fire. 63 00:03:14,422 --> 00:03:16,836 To kill someone like that, shoot them multiple times, 64 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:20,077 and then burn their body is not something that we normally see. 65 00:03:20,111 --> 00:03:23,146 66 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:25,560 When you recover a victim from a scene like this, 67 00:03:25,594 --> 00:03:27,629 obviously the autopsy 68 00:03:27,663 --> 00:03:32,008 is one of the most significant investigative avenues. 69 00:03:32,043 --> 00:03:34,870 The coroner report showed that she was shot three times 70 00:03:34,905 --> 00:03:36,353 with a 12-gauge slug. 71 00:03:36,387 --> 00:03:39,146 And a 12-gauge slug would've more than likely killed her 72 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:41,215 with the first shot. 73 00:03:41,249 --> 00:03:42,836 To us, that's a clue. 74 00:03:42,870 --> 00:03:46,215 They want to inflict a lot of pain on them. 75 00:03:46,249 --> 00:03:51,180 According to the coroner's report she was dead 76 00:03:51,215 --> 00:03:53,077 when she was set on fire. 77 00:03:53,111 --> 00:03:55,353 And the way they could tell this was because 78 00:03:55,387 --> 00:03:57,939 the inside of her lungs were not discolored. 79 00:03:57,974 --> 00:04:00,939 She hadn't taken any breaths after she was set on fire. 80 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:03,043 That's oftentimes an attempt to destroy 81 00:04:03,077 --> 00:04:04,698 any potential evidence on the body. 82 00:04:04,732 --> 00:04:11,698 83 00:04:11,732 --> 00:04:14,077 When you work a murder, one of the first things 84 00:04:14,111 --> 00:04:17,284 you attempt to do is identify the victim. 85 00:04:17,318 --> 00:04:19,836 So they had fingerprinted her 86 00:04:19,870 --> 00:04:21,767 and we were working that angle 87 00:04:21,801 --> 00:04:23,905 but the body was burned pretty bad. 88 00:04:23,939 --> 00:04:28,318 Technology was not as good as it is now, unfortunately. 89 00:04:28,353 --> 00:04:29,905 There really wasn't a whole lot to go on. 90 00:04:29,939 --> 00:04:32,215 Quite frankly, there were no leads. 91 00:04:32,249 --> 00:04:34,146 We had nothing. 92 00:04:34,180 --> 00:04:35,560 93 00:04:35,594 --> 00:04:39,801 This woman has been degraded in every way possible. 94 00:04:39,836 --> 00:04:41,974 She's been mutilated, she's been burned, 95 00:04:42,008 --> 00:04:45,077 and her body is found naked in a remote area. 96 00:04:45,111 --> 00:04:48,491 Generally, when you see overkill, in this manner, 97 00:04:48,525 --> 00:04:51,353 it indicates that this was personal in nature. 98 00:04:51,387 --> 00:04:53,905 There was an emotional connection here. 99 00:04:53,939 --> 00:04:55,974 You have to understand the use of a shotgun 100 00:04:56,008 --> 00:04:57,456 is extremely rare. 101 00:04:57,491 --> 00:04:58,698 You have to have a sense 102 00:04:58,732 --> 00:05:01,698 of not caring about anything or anyone. 103 00:05:01,732 --> 00:05:05,215 Whoever did this to her was full of rage 104 00:05:05,249 --> 00:05:07,491 and wanted to obliterate her identity 105 00:05:07,525 --> 00:05:09,215 by shooting her in the face 106 00:05:09,249 --> 00:05:11,870 and setting her on fire after she's dead. 107 00:05:11,905 --> 00:05:14,422 That's where you have to start in the investigation. 108 00:05:14,456 --> 00:05:16,870 Who is this individual? 109 00:05:16,905 --> 00:05:21,767 Why her? Why here? Why now? Why this way? 110 00:05:21,801 --> 00:05:25,146 111 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:27,456 The following day, we got a break from an employee 112 00:05:27,491 --> 00:05:29,146 of the Sheriff's department. He came forward 113 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:32,560 and said he had a relative that had been missing. 114 00:05:32,594 --> 00:05:34,077 115 00:05:34,111 --> 00:05:36,801 Deputy McCants contacted us and said that the victim 116 00:05:36,836 --> 00:05:39,870 matched the general description of his cousin 117 00:05:39,905 --> 00:05:42,560 named Dale Evonne Hall 118 00:05:42,594 --> 00:05:45,663 and that she lived close to where the body was found. 119 00:05:45,698 --> 00:05:50,249 I spoke to Dale's mother, Martha Pressley, 120 00:05:50,284 --> 00:05:54,111 and she just reaffirmed the information 121 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:57,043 that Dale was missing. 122 00:05:57,077 --> 00:05:59,594 Martha provided the dentist 123 00:05:59,629 --> 00:06:02,215 that Dale Hall was going to. 124 00:06:02,249 --> 00:06:04,974 So the coroner's office got her dental records 125 00:06:05,008 --> 00:06:09,249 and the medical examiner here compared them 126 00:06:09,284 --> 00:06:11,456 and identified her and said that that was definitely her. 127 00:06:11,491 --> 00:06:15,422 128 00:06:15,456 --> 00:06:19,043 We made contact with the son and Dale's mother 129 00:06:19,077 --> 00:06:20,801 and obviously, they were distraught. 130 00:06:20,836 --> 00:06:23,180 131 00:06:23,215 --> 00:06:24,560 It's like I blacked out. 132 00:06:24,594 --> 00:06:26,456 I don't remember that much. 133 00:06:26,491 --> 00:06:27,732 The only thing I know I just felt like 134 00:06:27,767 --> 00:06:30,836 I lost a part of myself. 135 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:36,180 Everything just went blank. 136 00:06:36,215 --> 00:06:38,974 I didn't get angry. I didn't get upset. 137 00:06:39,008 --> 00:06:41,146 I just felt like I just lost my best friend. 138 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:43,180 Which I did. 139 00:06:43,215 --> 00:06:47,008 I love her and I miss her 140 00:06:47,043 --> 00:06:49,525 and I think about her every day, 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,456 every hour, every minute of my life 142 00:06:52,491 --> 00:06:53,767 since she's been gone. 143 00:06:53,801 --> 00:06:56,663 144 00:06:56,698 --> 00:07:01,284 And I'm sorry that I couldn't protect her. 145 00:07:01,318 --> 00:07:06,939 146 00:07:06,974 --> 00:07:09,767 When we got in touch with Dale Hall's family 147 00:07:09,801 --> 00:07:12,008 they told us that she was a nurse. 148 00:07:12,043 --> 00:07:15,318 And once we started looking at her criminal history, 149 00:07:15,353 --> 00:07:18,318 we realized that she was somebody else. 150 00:07:18,353 --> 00:07:21,008 151 00:07:21,043 --> 00:07:23,629 She had multiple arrests for prostitution, 152 00:07:23,663 --> 00:07:25,698 soliciting prostitution. 153 00:07:25,732 --> 00:07:28,767 She was one of the girls that would walk up and down 154 00:07:28,801 --> 00:07:33,698 Two Notch Road and work the streets. 155 00:07:33,732 --> 00:07:35,456 I don't think her family obviously knew 156 00:07:35,491 --> 00:07:38,801 or wanted to admit what she was doing or acknowledge that. 157 00:07:38,836 --> 00:07:40,180 It's a tough thing to do. 158 00:07:40,215 --> 00:07:43,870 She was a mother, she was someone's child 159 00:07:43,905 --> 00:07:45,422 and she didn't deserve to die 160 00:07:45,456 --> 00:07:48,043 just because of the profession that she had chosen. 161 00:07:48,077 --> 00:07:52,008 162 00:07:52,043 --> 00:07:54,870 I spoke to Dale's mother. She said that her daughter 163 00:07:54,905 --> 00:07:57,146 had said that if anything ever happened to her, 164 00:07:57,180 --> 00:07:59,560 that we needed to talk to her boyfriend at the time 165 00:07:59,594 --> 00:08:02,077 and his name was Charles Reddick. 166 00:08:02,111 --> 00:08:04,594 We found out that he had a violent past with her. 167 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:08,491 This kind of lined up with how violently she was killed. 168 00:08:08,525 --> 00:08:12,180 Her mother said that Charles Reddick lived in a trailer 169 00:08:12,215 --> 00:08:15,077 probably ten minutes from where she was found. 170 00:08:15,111 --> 00:08:16,905 171 00:08:16,939 --> 00:08:18,560 We had more than just a gut feeling 172 00:08:18,594 --> 00:08:21,560 that he was involved in something with her. 173 00:08:21,594 --> 00:08:24,767 Once we started running down his background information, 174 00:08:24,801 --> 00:08:28,698 we realized Charles Reddick was a convicted sex offender. 175 00:08:28,732 --> 00:08:29,974 It was looking pretty good 176 00:08:30,008 --> 00:08:31,318 that he was going to be the guy that did it. 177 00:08:34,939 --> 00:08:38,077 The individual raised his shirt. 178 00:08:38,111 --> 00:08:40,215 He had the words "Serial Killer" 179 00:08:40,249 --> 00:08:42,077 written in blood. 180 00:08:42,111 --> 00:08:43,629 It was like, "Catch me if you can." 181 00:08:52,456 --> 00:08:54,560 [gunshot] 182 00:08:54,594 --> 00:08:58,491 On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, in the early morning hours, 183 00:08:58,525 --> 00:09:01,353 the body of Dale Hall was found. 184 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:04,353 She had been shot and burned. 185 00:09:04,387 --> 00:09:07,560 And we learned from the mother that Dale had confided in her 186 00:09:07,594 --> 00:09:09,629 at one point in time that if she ever ended up dead 187 00:09:09,663 --> 00:09:11,905 that we needed to go talk to her boyfriend, 188 00:09:11,939 --> 00:09:13,146 Charles Reddick. 189 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:16,146 [soft dramatic music] 190 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:20,077 191 00:09:20,111 --> 00:09:22,353 We got information that Charles Reddick 192 00:09:22,387 --> 00:09:26,456 and Dale were living in a trailer park about two miles 193 00:09:26,491 --> 00:09:28,594 from where she was found. 194 00:09:28,629 --> 00:09:29,836 195 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:32,836 We went by his trailer. Nobody was home. 196 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:35,387 When we talked to the neighbor, they said, "Yeah. 197 00:09:35,422 --> 00:09:38,043 "Well, we noticed that night he came home 198 00:09:38,077 --> 00:09:40,939 and was washing his car." 199 00:09:40,974 --> 00:09:42,836 And they said that was very unusual for him 200 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:45,560 because he just never did that. 201 00:09:45,594 --> 00:09:47,456 We felt like that could be indicative of him 202 00:09:47,491 --> 00:09:48,974 trying to cover up evidence 203 00:09:49,008 --> 00:09:52,043 whether it be prints 204 00:09:52,077 --> 00:09:54,353 or DNA or blood. 205 00:09:54,387 --> 00:09:58,180 At this point with Charles, we were feeling very strongly 206 00:09:58,215 --> 00:09:59,870 that he had something to do with Dale's murder. 207 00:09:59,905 --> 00:10:02,698 208 00:10:02,732 --> 00:10:04,387 Later that morning, we went back 209 00:10:04,422 --> 00:10:07,215 to the trailer park and Mr. Reddick was outside. 210 00:10:07,249 --> 00:10:09,008 He was doing something with his truck. 211 00:10:09,043 --> 00:10:10,594 I told him why we were there and I told him 212 00:10:10,629 --> 00:10:12,284 that Dale Hall had been murdered. 213 00:10:12,318 --> 00:10:17,663 And his immediate reaction was grief. Intense grief. 214 00:10:17,698 --> 00:10:20,594 215 00:10:20,629 --> 00:10:21,939 And we'd pick him up, 216 00:10:21,974 --> 00:10:24,111 transport him to our headquarters. 217 00:10:24,146 --> 00:10:26,077 And we interviewed him about Dale 218 00:10:26,111 --> 00:10:28,353 and if he knew anything about it. 219 00:10:28,387 --> 00:10:29,801 And he just adamantly denied 220 00:10:29,836 --> 00:10:32,215 anything having to do with her death. 221 00:10:32,249 --> 00:10:34,698 222 00:10:34,732 --> 00:10:38,801 During our interview with him, we offered him a polygraph test 223 00:10:38,836 --> 00:10:40,594 and he agreed to take it. 224 00:10:40,629 --> 00:10:43,560 225 00:10:43,594 --> 00:10:46,801 Charles Reddick failed the polygraph test 226 00:10:46,836 --> 00:10:49,111 which indicated that he was being deceptive 227 00:10:49,146 --> 00:10:52,077 about the questions we were asking him concerning Dale, 228 00:10:52,111 --> 00:10:55,249 but we still didn't have enough evidence. 229 00:10:55,284 --> 00:10:57,284 We didn't find any shotguns in his house. 230 00:10:57,318 --> 00:10:59,043 We didn't have the probable cause 231 00:10:59,077 --> 00:11:00,939 to charge him for the murder. 232 00:11:00,974 --> 00:11:03,387 He had motive. He had opportunity. 233 00:11:03,422 --> 00:11:06,180 But we had nothing else to link him to the murder. 234 00:11:06,215 --> 00:11:11,318 235 00:11:11,353 --> 00:11:14,043 Five days or so after Dale's body was found, 236 00:11:14,077 --> 00:11:15,974 we were approached by another female. 237 00:11:16,008 --> 00:11:17,525 238 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:21,146 I received a phone call on my office phone 239 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:24,146 from a girl named Shonda, a prostitute 240 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:27,284 that worked around the same area of Two Notch Road 241 00:11:27,318 --> 00:11:30,422 that Dale worked, and she told me 242 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:34,146 that she was working the night after Dale was found dead 243 00:11:34,180 --> 00:11:39,284 and she got into a car with a customer. 244 00:11:39,318 --> 00:11:43,249 She made a negotiation for a sex act, 245 00:11:43,284 --> 00:11:45,387 went to an isolated area where they were going to go 246 00:11:45,422 --> 00:11:48,594 ahead and engage in the transaction, 247 00:11:48,629 --> 00:11:49,801 and before it happened, 248 00:11:49,836 --> 00:11:52,974 the individual raised his shirt. 249 00:11:53,008 --> 00:11:57,905 And he had the words, "Serial Killer." 250 00:11:57,939 --> 00:12:02,387 She described it as being written in blood. 251 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:06,043 She just knew that he was going to kill her. 252 00:12:06,077 --> 00:12:08,422 She got out of the car and ran. 253 00:12:08,456 --> 00:12:11,180 254 00:12:11,215 --> 00:12:14,698 It was highly unusual and it was in the same area 255 00:12:14,732 --> 00:12:16,111 where Dale was known to frequent 256 00:12:16,146 --> 00:12:19,077 and that was pretty significant. 257 00:12:19,111 --> 00:12:20,663 So we felt like this may be related 258 00:12:20,698 --> 00:12:24,249 to our investigation into the murder of Dale Hall. 259 00:12:24,284 --> 00:12:26,422 We're thinking that she got a good look at this guy 260 00:12:26,456 --> 00:12:28,387 and he could've very easily been the suspect 261 00:12:28,422 --> 00:12:31,422 we're looking at, Charles Reddick. 262 00:12:31,456 --> 00:12:36,318 So we showed her a lineup with the suspect in it. 263 00:12:36,353 --> 00:12:37,974 She was adamant that Charles Reddick 264 00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:40,801 was not the one that she saw in the car that night. 265 00:12:40,836 --> 00:12:43,043 266 00:12:43,077 --> 00:12:47,491 Shonda was describing an individual younger, thin, 267 00:12:47,525 --> 00:12:50,422 driving a car that was clearly different than Reddick. 268 00:12:50,456 --> 00:12:52,491 Reddick had a pickup truck. 269 00:12:52,525 --> 00:12:54,353 And when I first approached Reddick 270 00:12:54,387 --> 00:12:57,801 and got that reaction from him with total grief, 271 00:12:57,836 --> 00:13:00,732 my gut instinct told me that this wasn't our guy 272 00:13:00,767 --> 00:13:02,732 and he was cooperative in the investigation 273 00:13:02,767 --> 00:13:04,732 which is usually pretty telling. 274 00:13:04,767 --> 00:13:06,629 And then we get this different description 275 00:13:06,663 --> 00:13:08,456 of an individual much younger than Reddick 276 00:13:08,491 --> 00:13:11,836 with this bizarre behavior, we moved on from Reddick. 277 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:14,215 278 00:13:14,249 --> 00:13:16,008 So now we have a murderer 279 00:13:16,043 --> 00:13:19,629 riding around Richland County for days now. 280 00:13:19,663 --> 00:13:21,077 Not only has he killed one person, 281 00:13:21,111 --> 00:13:24,905 he's possibly trying to pick up another victim who has, 282 00:13:24,939 --> 00:13:28,146 by the grace of God, gotten away from him. 283 00:13:28,180 --> 00:13:30,974 284 00:13:31,008 --> 00:13:34,353 Some days later, we learned about another shotgun-related 285 00:13:34,387 --> 00:13:36,284 incident that happened in Columbia Police Department's 286 00:13:36,318 --> 00:13:38,594 jurisdiction in downtown Columbia 287 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:41,146 just a couple of days before Dale's body was found. 288 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:45,560 289 00:13:45,594 --> 00:13:48,111 The homeless man named Jimmy White 290 00:13:48,146 --> 00:13:50,422 was sleeping on a bench in Finlay Park 291 00:13:50,456 --> 00:13:54,284 and he was approached by a young, African American male. 292 00:13:54,318 --> 00:13:57,663 Without any sort of argument or dispute, he just came up 293 00:13:57,698 --> 00:14:01,008 and shot him several times with a shotgun. 294 00:14:01,043 --> 00:14:02,180 [gunshots] 295 00:14:02,215 --> 00:14:04,456 Jimmy White was critically injured. 296 00:14:04,491 --> 00:14:06,732 He ultimately survived, but he was not able to provide 297 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:09,180 a lot of detail about the shooter. 298 00:14:09,215 --> 00:14:10,525 There was no interaction with the shooter 299 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,836 prior to him being shot. 300 00:14:13,870 --> 00:14:17,801 The brutality of a close-range shotgun blast 301 00:14:17,836 --> 00:14:19,698 felt like that it could be relevant. 302 00:14:19,732 --> 00:14:22,077 303 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:25,353 So at this point, what investigators have 304 00:14:25,387 --> 00:14:28,525 are two unsolved shotgun attacks. 305 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,422 Is it possible these crimes are related? 306 00:14:31,456 --> 00:14:37,077 We've got Jimmy who's shot on July 7th in a park. 307 00:14:37,111 --> 00:14:39,560 We've got Dale who's murdered-- 308 00:14:39,594 --> 00:14:44,111 brutally murdered on July 10th. And then Shonda. 309 00:14:44,146 --> 00:14:47,318 The shooting of Mr. White was almost like a target practice 310 00:14:47,353 --> 00:14:51,353 and the perpetrator was seeing what they were capable of 311 00:14:51,387 --> 00:14:55,387 and--and sort of practicing what they would be able to do. 312 00:14:55,422 --> 00:14:58,698 By the time they get to Dale, they've honed their craft 313 00:14:58,732 --> 00:15:01,180 and are able to carry through with the killing 314 00:15:01,215 --> 00:15:02,974 and cover their tracks. 315 00:15:03,008 --> 00:15:05,215 And by the time Shonda is picked up, 316 00:15:05,249 --> 00:15:08,353 this is someone who is brazen and confident 317 00:15:08,387 --> 00:15:09,801 in what they're doing. 318 00:15:09,836 --> 00:15:13,077 It's a bad thing that this guy is advertising 319 00:15:13,111 --> 00:15:15,284 that he's a serial killer. 320 00:15:15,318 --> 00:15:19,353 It makes me wonder what's he going to do next? 321 00:15:19,387 --> 00:15:22,732 We were still trying to identify who killed Dale. 322 00:15:22,767 --> 00:15:24,422 Trying to find another lead, 323 00:15:24,456 --> 00:15:27,077 we started checking all these hotels and motels 324 00:15:27,111 --> 00:15:29,215 and started talking to other prostitutes 325 00:15:29,249 --> 00:15:32,353 that frequented the area and that was a dead end. 326 00:15:32,387 --> 00:15:35,801 Nobody had seen her. Nobody remembered. 327 00:15:35,836 --> 00:15:38,491 But in about a month after Dale's murder, 328 00:15:38,525 --> 00:15:41,560 we received a 911 call about a shooting 329 00:15:41,594 --> 00:15:44,456 at the Texas Roadhouse involving a shotgun. 330 00:15:49,180 --> 00:15:51,594 The Dale Hall murder basically became-- 331 00:15:51,629 --> 00:15:52,801 I hate to use the word cold, 332 00:15:52,836 --> 00:15:56,456 but we didn't have any substantial leads. 333 00:15:56,491 --> 00:16:00,146 We had this description from Shonda of an individual. 334 00:16:00,180 --> 00:16:03,318 We had the related shooting of Jimmy White. 335 00:16:03,353 --> 00:16:05,215 We were earnestly trying to work anything 336 00:16:05,249 --> 00:16:08,180 we could at that point in time, 337 00:16:08,215 --> 00:16:09,767 but we had not developed a suspect. 338 00:16:09,801 --> 00:16:11,698 [soft dramatic music] 339 00:16:11,732 --> 00:16:13,870 There is somebody out there with a shotgun 340 00:16:13,905 --> 00:16:16,801 and the hard part of it, for law enforcement, 341 00:16:16,836 --> 00:16:20,111 is that the guy can go out and do it to somebody else. 342 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:24,422 343 00:16:24,456 --> 00:16:27,491 We received a 911 call on a Thursday night 344 00:16:27,525 --> 00:16:30,560 about a shooting at the Texas Roadhouse 345 00:16:30,594 --> 00:16:32,525 which is on I-77 at Two Notch Road 346 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,043 here in Richland County. 347 00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:37,387 A uniformed patrol officer found witnesses 348 00:16:37,422 --> 00:16:40,249 attending to a wounded individual 349 00:16:40,284 --> 00:16:42,836 adjacent to his vehicle. 350 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:44,870 He had been shot in the head 351 00:16:44,905 --> 00:16:48,008 and was barely hanging on to life. 352 00:16:48,043 --> 00:16:52,422 He was identified as Jedediah Harr by witnesses. 353 00:16:52,456 --> 00:16:56,077 EMS took him to the hospital. 354 00:16:56,111 --> 00:16:58,801 The back windshield of the victim's vehicle, 355 00:16:58,836 --> 00:17:01,077 which was a Mercedes-Benz, had been blown out. 356 00:17:01,111 --> 00:17:03,836 357 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:07,077 We did find one 12-gauge shotgun shell 358 00:17:07,111 --> 00:17:08,284 in the parking lot. 359 00:17:08,318 --> 00:17:09,560 That was pretty telling that 360 00:17:09,594 --> 00:17:11,146 it was a shotgun at Texas Roadhouse. 361 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:13,939 362 00:17:13,974 --> 00:17:16,284 The crime scene was very chaotic. 363 00:17:16,318 --> 00:17:18,594 We had lots of witnesses 364 00:17:18,629 --> 00:17:21,077 and we had people that were very upset. 365 00:17:21,111 --> 00:17:24,870 We began quickly identifying other parties 366 00:17:24,905 --> 00:17:26,767 that had knowledge of what had occurred. 367 00:17:26,801 --> 00:17:29,663 Some employees of the restaurant there, 368 00:17:29,698 --> 00:17:32,249 some other customers who were witnesses. 369 00:17:32,284 --> 00:17:34,767 We were able to piece together what had transpired there 370 00:17:34,801 --> 00:17:37,939 leading up to the shooting. 371 00:17:37,974 --> 00:17:39,974 We learned that there had been some sort of dispute 372 00:17:40,008 --> 00:17:43,215 involving employees from the Texas Roadhouse Grill 373 00:17:43,249 --> 00:17:48,491 named Brian Marquis and Quincy Allen. 374 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:52,939 We learned that Quincy would play sort of childish games 375 00:17:52,974 --> 00:17:56,491 with some of the female coworkers. 376 00:17:56,525 --> 00:17:58,077 Marquis's girlfriend, Tiffany Todd, 377 00:17:58,111 --> 00:17:59,767 was also an employee. 378 00:17:59,801 --> 00:18:02,387 Tiffany was pregnant by Marquis. 379 00:18:02,422 --> 00:18:05,491 On this particular night, Quincy annoyed her to the point 380 00:18:05,525 --> 00:18:08,732 where she confronted him, told him to stop, 381 00:18:08,767 --> 00:18:13,284 and at that point in time, Quincy threatened Tiffany 382 00:18:13,318 --> 00:18:15,043 and he said that he would punch her hard enough 383 00:18:15,077 --> 00:18:16,732 to harm her baby. 384 00:18:16,767 --> 00:18:18,318 Tiffany had enough. 385 00:18:18,353 --> 00:18:21,525 She called Brian Marquis on his cell phone 386 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,801 and told him that Quincy was back at it. 387 00:18:23,836 --> 00:18:28,077 She asked Brian Marquis to come there. 388 00:18:28,111 --> 00:18:30,008 That evening, Brian, Jed, and I 389 00:18:30,043 --> 00:18:33,525 we're just having a good time joking around. 390 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,146 That's when Tiffany called Brian talking about 391 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:40,111 how Quincy was being evil. 392 00:18:40,146 --> 00:18:45,491 So Brian and Jed got into Jed's car and drove it down there. 393 00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:47,456 And I drove down there because 394 00:18:47,491 --> 00:18:49,077 kind of under the understanding 395 00:18:49,111 --> 00:18:53,594 that we were going to go pick Tiffany up and take her home. 396 00:18:53,629 --> 00:18:55,939 [tense music] 397 00:18:55,974 --> 00:18:59,353 Witnesses told us Brian went into this restaurant, 398 00:18:59,387 --> 00:19:03,698 confronted Quincy Allen, they had an exchange of words, 399 00:19:03,732 --> 00:19:05,732 manager made them leave the restaurant 400 00:19:05,767 --> 00:19:08,767 before it became a problem with the customers. 401 00:19:08,801 --> 00:19:11,905 402 00:19:11,939 --> 00:19:14,698 I get in my car 403 00:19:14,732 --> 00:19:19,111 and Jed and Brian get into his car. 404 00:19:19,146 --> 00:19:21,249 Witnesses told us that Quincy Allen 405 00:19:21,284 --> 00:19:25,698 went to the trunk of his car and retrieved his shotgun. 406 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:27,525 407 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,353 And as they started driving off, 408 00:19:29,387 --> 00:19:34,560 that's when I saw Quincy point the gun at the back window. 409 00:19:34,594 --> 00:19:36,525 Everything was running through my head to where, 410 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,387 "Yes, Quincy is a little crazy sometimes but no, 411 00:19:41,422 --> 00:19:44,008 I think he's just doing that for show." 412 00:19:44,043 --> 00:19:45,525 413 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,594 [gunshot] 414 00:19:46,629 --> 00:19:49,387 I heard the gun go off. 415 00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:52,008 [soft dramatic music] 416 00:19:52,043 --> 00:19:53,456 When I saw the window shatter 417 00:19:53,491 --> 00:19:56,698 and Jed go over the little ravine, 418 00:19:56,732 --> 00:19:58,732 it was just a little hill, 419 00:19:58,767 --> 00:20:03,215 down into the gas station parking lot, 420 00:20:03,249 --> 00:20:07,801 I realized that Quincy had just shot Jed's car. 421 00:20:07,836 --> 00:20:11,146 422 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:15,353 My emotions were a mixture 423 00:20:15,387 --> 00:20:19,663 of fright, 424 00:20:19,698 --> 00:20:23,249 hatred, 425 00:20:23,284 --> 00:20:26,732 and just confusion. 426 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:28,491 427 00:20:28,525 --> 00:20:32,146 I drove across, jumped out, 428 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:34,284 saw Brian getting out of the car 429 00:20:34,318 --> 00:20:36,387 and running into the gas station. 430 00:20:36,422 --> 00:20:38,146 431 00:20:38,180 --> 00:20:39,974 I was waiting on some customers 432 00:20:40,008 --> 00:20:41,698 when I heard a loud crash. 433 00:20:41,732 --> 00:20:44,077 So I step away from the cash register 434 00:20:44,111 --> 00:20:45,249 and I went to the window. 435 00:20:45,284 --> 00:20:48,801 As I came around the counter, 436 00:20:48,836 --> 00:20:50,801 the young, white guy came in. 437 00:21:11,629 --> 00:21:14,594 [dramatic music] 438 00:21:14,629 --> 00:21:16,422 439 00:21:22,456 --> 00:21:25,077 He say, "Somebody's after me and they trying to kill me." 440 00:21:25,111 --> 00:21:27,732 I guess my adrenaline was running 441 00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:30,249 that I really didn't think about what I was doing. 442 00:21:30,284 --> 00:21:32,077 I just know I had to do something. 443 00:21:32,111 --> 00:21:34,318 [tense music] 444 00:21:34,353 --> 00:21:36,801 445 00:21:36,836 --> 00:21:38,146 And I said, "Okay. 446 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,249 "You see that cooler right there behind me? 447 00:21:39,284 --> 00:21:43,077 Go in the cooler and be quiet." 448 00:21:43,111 --> 00:21:44,353 I walked to the cooler with him 449 00:21:44,387 --> 00:21:47,456 and made sure the door was closed. 450 00:21:47,491 --> 00:21:49,284 451 00:21:49,318 --> 00:21:50,560 By the time I got halfway, 452 00:21:50,594 --> 00:21:53,249 in the front of the register at the counter, 453 00:21:53,284 --> 00:21:55,905 is when this Black male came in the door. 454 00:21:55,939 --> 00:21:58,491 455 00:21:58,525 --> 00:21:59,939 When I looked at him, I noticed 456 00:21:59,974 --> 00:22:02,836 he had a shotgun in his left hand, 457 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:05,491 he had shotgun shells in his right hand, 458 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,456 and the shotgun was smoking. 459 00:22:08,491 --> 00:22:11,249 And he said, "Where the eff is he?" 460 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:17,111 [tense music] 461 00:22:17,146 --> 00:22:20,215 August 8th, there was a shooting 462 00:22:20,249 --> 00:22:23,767 at the Texas Roadhouse on Two Notch Road. 463 00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:25,560 We immediately identified our shooter 464 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,077 as one Quincy Jovan Allen. 465 00:22:27,111 --> 00:22:31,491 466 00:22:31,525 --> 00:22:33,111 And we learned from the witnesses 467 00:22:33,146 --> 00:22:36,663 that Brian Marquis ran for safe haven. 468 00:22:36,698 --> 00:22:38,836 He went to this convenience store. 469 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:41,077 Quincy spotted him and went after him 470 00:22:41,111 --> 00:22:45,215 and he was confronted by the clerk. 471 00:22:45,249 --> 00:22:47,491 A Black young man, early twenties, 472 00:22:47,525 --> 00:22:51,008 came in the door, looked me in my face, 473 00:22:51,043 --> 00:22:54,801 and asked me "Where the H was he?" 474 00:22:54,836 --> 00:22:57,111 I said, "Well, I don't know who the eff you looking for, 475 00:22:57,146 --> 00:22:58,318 "but ain't no guy ran in here 476 00:22:58,353 --> 00:22:59,698 and you need to get up out of here." 477 00:22:59,732 --> 00:23:01,629 478 00:23:01,663 --> 00:23:03,767 And then he looked at me. 479 00:23:03,801 --> 00:23:05,594 And he just turned around and went out the door. 480 00:23:05,629 --> 00:23:08,629 481 00:23:08,663 --> 00:23:09,974 It took a lot courage 482 00:23:10,008 --> 00:23:11,318 for the clerk at this convenience store 483 00:23:11,353 --> 00:23:14,905 to confront a gunman with a shotgun. 484 00:23:14,939 --> 00:23:17,525 She's very fortunate not to have been another victim. 485 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,249 486 00:23:21,284 --> 00:23:24,905 The 12-gauge slug that was used at Texas Roadhouse 487 00:23:24,939 --> 00:23:26,387 was fired from a similar-type weapon 488 00:23:26,422 --> 00:23:27,422 that was used to kill Dale Hall. 489 00:23:27,456 --> 00:23:31,008 490 00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:34,836 Here we have two shootings involving a shotgun 491 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:39,939 a month apart and they're in close proximity to one another. 492 00:23:39,974 --> 00:23:43,663 I remember distinctly looking across I-77 493 00:23:43,698 --> 00:23:47,318 at just how close that Oakway Lane cul-de-sac, 494 00:23:47,353 --> 00:23:48,732 where Dale's body was found 495 00:23:48,767 --> 00:23:51,801 was to the Texas Roadhouse Grill. 496 00:23:51,836 --> 00:23:54,077 We became convinced that Quincy Allen 497 00:23:54,111 --> 00:23:57,008 was our man for that murder, but he was not on-scene. 498 00:23:57,043 --> 00:23:58,008 He was gone. 499 00:23:58,043 --> 00:24:00,629 [soft dramatic music] 500 00:24:00,663 --> 00:24:03,043 We had a lot of people working on this case 501 00:24:03,077 --> 00:24:04,284 because there are so many things 502 00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:06,767 that had to go on at the same time. 503 00:24:06,801 --> 00:24:09,732 Preserving a crime scene and then starting 504 00:24:09,767 --> 00:24:13,422 an investigation to locate Quincy Allen. 505 00:24:13,456 --> 00:24:16,353 506 00:24:16,387 --> 00:24:19,146 Law enforcement also have got Jedediah Harr 507 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:24,077 in the hospital with a shotgun blast to his head. 508 00:24:24,111 --> 00:24:25,525 509 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,180 In a situation like this, the first thing that 510 00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:30,353 law enforcement does is talk to the family. 511 00:24:30,387 --> 00:24:31,905 512 00:24:31,939 --> 00:24:34,353 11:00, I had people 513 00:24:34,387 --> 00:24:38,146 ringing the doorbell constantly. 514 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:42,146 And I thought, "What the hell's going on?" 515 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:45,111 And opened the door and they said, 516 00:24:45,146 --> 00:24:49,422 "Are you, Mrs. Harr?" And I says, "Yes, I am." 517 00:24:49,456 --> 00:24:52,491 And they said, "You need to get dressed." 518 00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:56,767 I was up in North Carolina 519 00:24:56,801 --> 00:24:59,594 waiting to make a delivery. 520 00:24:59,629 --> 00:25:02,318 Another driver from the company I worked for 521 00:25:02,353 --> 00:25:07,077 drove up and he said, "It's your son. 522 00:25:07,111 --> 00:25:11,284 He's in the hospital. You need to go home now." 523 00:25:11,318 --> 00:25:14,732 The moment I saw my son, Jedediah, 524 00:25:14,767 --> 00:25:18,801 in the emergency room, 525 00:25:18,836 --> 00:25:23,456 my heart broke in half. 526 00:25:23,491 --> 00:25:25,698 [downbeat music] 527 00:25:25,732 --> 00:25:28,422 I bent down 528 00:25:28,456 --> 00:25:33,008 and I whispered into his left ear, 529 00:25:33,043 --> 00:25:36,077 "Jed, Mommy can't help you this time. 530 00:25:36,111 --> 00:25:40,560 "I can't fix it. 531 00:25:40,594 --> 00:25:42,905 "I love you. 532 00:25:42,939 --> 00:25:47,111 I'll always love you and never forget you." 533 00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:48,560 534 00:25:48,594 --> 00:25:52,594 And he had one clear tear 535 00:25:52,629 --> 00:25:57,422 come out of his left eye. 536 00:25:57,456 --> 00:26:02,077 So I know he heard me. 537 00:26:02,111 --> 00:26:03,284 538 00:26:03,318 --> 00:26:07,560 After that, Jed was pronounced dead. 539 00:26:07,594 --> 00:26:12,456 540 00:26:12,491 --> 00:26:14,215 [dramatic music] 541 00:26:14,249 --> 00:26:16,905 We had everybody out working this case. 542 00:26:16,939 --> 00:26:19,698 We had multiple teams going in all different directions 543 00:26:19,732 --> 00:26:21,905 trying to find Quincy Allen. 544 00:26:21,939 --> 00:26:23,077 We need to get him. 545 00:26:23,111 --> 00:26:24,353 And that was our number one priority 546 00:26:24,387 --> 00:26:26,836 before he killed again. 547 00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:28,801 Based on the vehicle records 548 00:26:28,836 --> 00:26:31,525 and the identification of Quincy Allen, 549 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,456 we were able to learn the vehicle that he drove. 550 00:26:34,491 --> 00:26:37,663 He was in a white Dodge Neon that had the tag number. 551 00:26:37,698 --> 00:26:39,836 And we put that out immediately 552 00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:41,077 to all of our units, 553 00:26:41,111 --> 00:26:43,180 all the area law enforcement agencies, 554 00:26:43,215 --> 00:26:44,939 as being an individual wanted for murder. 555 00:26:44,974 --> 00:26:47,422 556 00:26:47,456 --> 00:26:49,422 We wanted to learn as much as we could about Quincy 557 00:26:49,456 --> 00:26:51,077 in an effort to try to find out, 558 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:53,077 you know, where he'd be going. 559 00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:54,560 We learned from pulling our own records 560 00:26:54,594 --> 00:26:56,974 that he had just gotten out of prison earlier that year 561 00:26:57,008 --> 00:27:00,249 from a car theft-related charge. 562 00:27:00,284 --> 00:27:03,284 He had just had a history of behavior that was aggressive. 563 00:27:03,318 --> 00:27:06,560 564 00:27:06,594 --> 00:27:10,767 Authorities found that Quincy Allen was abused, 565 00:27:10,801 --> 00:27:13,387 neglected, raised in extreme poverty. 566 00:27:13,422 --> 00:27:18,560 The lack of parental care, love, nurturing, 567 00:27:18,594 --> 00:27:23,663 it created this wall, this lack of empathy. 568 00:27:23,698 --> 00:27:25,353 He's alone. He's abandoned. 569 00:27:25,387 --> 00:27:29,077 The rage and anger that he experienced as a child 570 00:27:29,111 --> 00:27:32,111 just bubbled up in him and so as he got older, 571 00:27:32,146 --> 00:27:34,353 his only way of releasing those emotions 572 00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:36,629 was to enact them on other people. 573 00:27:36,663 --> 00:27:39,560 The same violence that he project on others 574 00:27:39,594 --> 00:27:40,905 is what he felt. 575 00:27:40,939 --> 00:27:43,905 It's often the case that our past behavior 576 00:27:43,939 --> 00:27:45,767 is a predictor of our future behavior. 577 00:27:45,801 --> 00:27:48,043 It's not a good thing that Quincy Allen 578 00:27:48,077 --> 00:27:50,318 had the childhood he had, 579 00:27:50,353 --> 00:27:52,215 but it's not an excuse for his behavior. 580 00:27:52,249 --> 00:27:55,732 It's an explanation for it, but it doesn't excuse it. 581 00:27:55,767 --> 00:27:58,663 582 00:27:58,698 --> 00:28:02,284 The following day, we were able to secure arrest warrants 583 00:28:02,318 --> 00:28:03,698 and we got him into 584 00:28:03,732 --> 00:28:05,422 the National Crime Information Computer. 585 00:28:05,456 --> 00:28:10,043 That hit on a speeding ticket in the state of Virginia. 586 00:28:10,077 --> 00:28:13,353 He had been ticketed by a Virginia State patrolman 587 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,767 early that Friday morning. 588 00:28:15,801 --> 00:28:18,456 That told us that he was heading north. 589 00:28:18,491 --> 00:28:21,594 We didn't know exactly where he was headed at that point. 590 00:28:21,629 --> 00:28:23,560 Not only are we trying to catch him, 591 00:28:23,594 --> 00:28:24,905 but we're trying to protect people 592 00:28:24,939 --> 00:28:27,318 that could be potential victims. 593 00:28:27,353 --> 00:28:28,732 We're afraid of what he's going to do. 594 00:28:28,767 --> 00:28:31,594 Who else is going to kill? 595 00:28:33,767 --> 00:28:36,008 Before he gets to the counter, 596 00:28:36,043 --> 00:28:38,974 you see Quincy Allen lift a shotgun 597 00:28:39,008 --> 00:28:41,525 which he had leaned up near the cash register. 598 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,732 It was like, "Catch me if you can." 599 00:28:47,836 --> 00:28:49,836 [dramatic music] 600 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:51,249 601 00:28:51,284 --> 00:28:53,043 After the shooting at the Texas Roadhouse, 602 00:28:53,077 --> 00:28:55,663 Quincy sort of went off the radar. 603 00:28:55,698 --> 00:28:57,111 We don't know where he's at. 604 00:28:57,146 --> 00:28:59,043 We're one or two steps behind him. 605 00:28:59,077 --> 00:29:00,560 606 00:29:00,594 --> 00:29:01,836 He was so unpredictable. 607 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:03,560 We had no idea what he was going to do next. 608 00:29:03,594 --> 00:29:07,422 609 00:29:07,456 --> 00:29:09,870 It was really late, the wee hours of morning, 610 00:29:09,905 --> 00:29:12,456 and my phone rings and it's a captain 611 00:29:12,491 --> 00:29:15,249 with the Sheriff's office here in Surry County 612 00:29:15,284 --> 00:29:16,767 and he said, "Hey, I need your help. 613 00:29:16,801 --> 00:29:20,077 "We've got two people that's been murdered 614 00:29:20,111 --> 00:29:24,801 in a convenience store out near Interstate 77." 615 00:29:24,836 --> 00:29:27,043 It's a store I've stopped at many times and got coffee. 616 00:29:27,077 --> 00:29:29,215 617 00:29:29,249 --> 00:29:32,698 When I got to the scene, it was just a very violent, 618 00:29:32,732 --> 00:29:34,870 horrific scene. 619 00:29:34,905 --> 00:29:36,077 A lot of debris. 620 00:29:36,111 --> 00:29:37,974 A lot of blood spatter everywhere. 621 00:29:38,008 --> 00:29:39,525 622 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,043 I can see one victim in front of the counter 623 00:29:43,077 --> 00:29:44,525 down on the floor. 624 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,594 The other victim behind the counter. 625 00:29:47,629 --> 00:29:49,491 From seeing where he was shot, 626 00:29:49,525 --> 00:29:53,215 it looked like he was working, maybe his back turned. 627 00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:55,008 We contacted the owner of the store 628 00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:58,249 who told us who was working that night. 629 00:29:58,284 --> 00:29:59,732 It was Richard Hawks. 630 00:29:59,767 --> 00:30:02,353 He lives out in the community where I live 631 00:30:02,387 --> 00:30:05,111 and he's 53 years of age. 632 00:30:05,146 --> 00:30:06,456 633 00:30:06,491 --> 00:30:10,215 The victim on the floor in front of the counter, 634 00:30:10,249 --> 00:30:12,594 he didn't have any identification 635 00:30:12,629 --> 00:30:14,525 on him whatsoever. 636 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,180 637 00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:19,146 There was a vehicle in the parking lot, 638 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,870 a white 2002 Dodge vehicle. 639 00:30:21,905 --> 00:30:23,249 [soft tense music] 640 00:30:23,284 --> 00:30:25,387 We ran the tag on the Dodge 641 00:30:25,422 --> 00:30:28,663 and it came back with his driving license pictures. 642 00:30:28,698 --> 00:30:30,663 Quincy Allen out of South Carolina. 643 00:30:30,698 --> 00:30:35,111 One of the officers said, "Hey, the license plate hit. 644 00:30:35,146 --> 00:30:39,077 He's a homicide suspect." 645 00:30:39,111 --> 00:30:41,111 And I noticed, from one angle, 646 00:30:41,146 --> 00:30:43,111 there was a surveillance camera. 647 00:30:43,146 --> 00:30:46,077 We actually put it on and watched the tape. 648 00:30:46,111 --> 00:30:47,525 649 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,318 We see a Black male, 650 00:30:49,353 --> 00:30:52,180 whom we're thinking is Quincy Allen, 651 00:30:52,215 --> 00:30:54,318 come in the store, make a purchase, 652 00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:55,801 and go back out of the store, 653 00:30:55,836 --> 00:30:58,905 and Mr. Hawks either stocking or straightening up 654 00:30:58,939 --> 00:31:00,767 the cigarette rack. 655 00:31:00,801 --> 00:31:05,215 And we see Quincy come back in the store... 656 00:31:05,249 --> 00:31:08,318 657 00:31:08,353 --> 00:31:10,698 And he shoots Mr. Hawks. 658 00:31:10,732 --> 00:31:12,387 Goes immediately behind the counter 659 00:31:12,422 --> 00:31:16,043 and he begins to manipulate the cash register 660 00:31:16,077 --> 00:31:18,594 as if he's trying to open the cash register. 661 00:31:18,629 --> 00:31:20,560 Maybe within the next 30 seconds, 662 00:31:20,594 --> 00:31:25,974 you see another person enter the store from the other door. 663 00:31:26,008 --> 00:31:27,698 Before he gets to the counter, 664 00:31:27,732 --> 00:31:31,111 you see Quincy Allen lift a shotgun 665 00:31:31,146 --> 00:31:35,870 which he had leaned up near the cash register. 666 00:31:35,905 --> 00:31:37,629 667 00:31:37,663 --> 00:31:42,732 Quincy Allen then takes his keys and his wallet. 668 00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:45,180 He leans back over with his shotgun 669 00:31:45,215 --> 00:31:49,767 and he shoots him again in the head. 670 00:31:49,801 --> 00:31:52,215 He leaves the store but he returns back for a moment. 671 00:31:58,732 --> 00:32:00,422 It was like, "Catch me if you can." 672 00:32:00,456 --> 00:32:02,215 And you know what I thought? 673 00:32:02,249 --> 00:32:06,077 "I'm coming to get you. I'm coming to get you." 674 00:32:07,111 --> 00:32:10,422 This gesture is for everyone. 675 00:32:10,456 --> 00:32:13,111 It's for the world to know who he is. 676 00:32:13,146 --> 00:32:15,905 It's for the world to know what he's capable of. 677 00:32:15,939 --> 00:32:17,491 It's to law enforcement. 678 00:32:17,525 --> 00:32:20,905 It's to all the people who undermined him, 679 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,456 who disregarded him, who threw him away, 680 00:32:23,491 --> 00:32:27,663 who didn't care for him. That's who that video is for. 681 00:32:27,698 --> 00:32:30,629 The powerful feeling that Quincy Allen now has 682 00:32:30,663 --> 00:32:33,456 from these killings is almost seducing him. 683 00:32:33,491 --> 00:32:35,456 It's something that's taken over. 684 00:32:35,491 --> 00:32:38,525 It's the ultimate feeling of control. 685 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,146 Clearly, Quincy Allen wants to take credit 686 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:43,387 for what he just did, killing two people. 687 00:32:43,422 --> 00:32:45,939 He's looking at the camera as though to say, 688 00:32:45,974 --> 00:32:47,422 "That's me. I did it. 689 00:32:47,456 --> 00:32:52,043 That's who I am, the serial killer I aspire to be." 690 00:32:52,077 --> 00:32:55,491 This challenge is on now to find him as soon as possible 691 00:32:55,525 --> 00:32:58,215 because there is no sign that he's going to stop. 692 00:32:58,249 --> 00:33:00,629 693 00:33:00,663 --> 00:33:02,525 We immediately get in contact 694 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,180 with Richland County Sheriff's office in South Carolina 695 00:33:05,215 --> 00:33:09,560 because Quincy Allen has been identified in a homicide there. 696 00:33:09,594 --> 00:33:11,594 I got a call in the middle of the night 697 00:33:11,629 --> 00:33:13,801 as a number of other investigators did. 698 00:33:13,836 --> 00:33:15,939 we were advised that Quincy had killed again. 699 00:33:15,974 --> 00:33:18,387 700 00:33:18,422 --> 00:33:20,594 So now we have two more victims. 701 00:33:20,629 --> 00:33:22,905 It felt like he wasn't afraid of any consequences. 702 00:33:22,939 --> 00:33:25,008 He was just out there killing for the fact 703 00:33:25,043 --> 00:33:28,284 that he could do it and that he enjoyed it. 704 00:33:28,318 --> 00:33:31,249 705 00:33:31,284 --> 00:33:33,732 That morning, we learned from some of the other employees 706 00:33:33,767 --> 00:33:36,974 at the Texas Roadhouse that while Quincy was on the run, 707 00:33:37,008 --> 00:33:39,077 he tried to call them. 708 00:33:39,111 --> 00:33:42,629 He was contacting people and telling them what he had done. 709 00:33:42,663 --> 00:33:45,249 He was bragging about it. 710 00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:47,111 Quincy was telling people that he had a hit list. 711 00:33:47,146 --> 00:33:49,215 He wanted to be a serial killer. 712 00:33:49,249 --> 00:33:51,387 713 00:33:51,422 --> 00:33:53,422 People would contact the Sheriff's Office 714 00:33:53,456 --> 00:33:55,284 and tell them that, "Hey, 715 00:33:55,318 --> 00:33:57,767 this is the number he's calling me from." 716 00:33:57,801 --> 00:33:59,594 Richland County Sheriff's office 717 00:33:59,629 --> 00:34:03,215 had subpoenaed those phone records and it came back to 718 00:34:03,249 --> 00:34:08,560 29-year-old Robert Roush from Ohio. 719 00:34:08,594 --> 00:34:09,905 That's when we learned Mr. Roush 720 00:34:09,939 --> 00:34:14,077 was our victim on the floor in front of the counter. 721 00:34:14,111 --> 00:34:17,560 We realized Quincy Allen, after he had murdered him, 722 00:34:17,594 --> 00:34:21,353 had stolen Mr. Roush's vehicle, his Ford Explorer, 723 00:34:21,387 --> 00:34:24,284 and he was using his cell phone. 724 00:34:24,318 --> 00:34:27,077 After speaking to Mr. Roush's parents, 725 00:34:27,111 --> 00:34:29,836 we later learned he was a school teacher. 726 00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:32,663 He was traveling to Charleston, South Carolina 727 00:34:32,698 --> 00:34:35,353 to meet up with some college friends. 728 00:34:35,387 --> 00:34:37,560 729 00:34:37,594 --> 00:34:39,077 During the course of the day Monday, 730 00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:41,353 another employee of the Texas Roadhouse told us 731 00:34:41,387 --> 00:34:43,663 that she had gotten a call from Quincy. 732 00:34:43,698 --> 00:34:47,180 He considered her an ally for some reason 733 00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:50,077 and was confiding in her. 734 00:34:50,111 --> 00:34:53,663 We were able to supply her with a tape recorder. 735 00:34:53,698 --> 00:34:55,077 He wound up calling her again 736 00:34:55,111 --> 00:34:57,387 and she was able to successfully tape 737 00:34:57,422 --> 00:35:01,801 this conversation and it was like opening up a faucet. 738 00:35:01,836 --> 00:35:03,111 He admitted everything. 739 00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:22,974 Quincy basically told her 740 00:35:23,008 --> 00:35:25,387 the clerk was doing inventory of cigarettes. 741 00:35:32,801 --> 00:35:37,525 And then he described how the second victim had come in. 742 00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:57,939 It was just very graphic 743 00:35:57,974 --> 00:35:59,698 and he's bragging about all this. 744 00:36:29,629 --> 00:36:33,077 Quincy Allen, he is continuously 745 00:36:33,111 --> 00:36:36,974 calling people he used to work with saying, 746 00:36:37,008 --> 00:36:40,077 "I'm going to come back. I'm going to kill everybody." 747 00:36:40,111 --> 00:36:44,663 Mr. Roush had a cell phone in his SUV, his Ford Explorer, 748 00:36:44,698 --> 00:36:48,767 so we're able to track Quincy with Mr. Roush's cell phone. 749 00:36:48,801 --> 00:36:53,870 We know Quincy's got a hit list and he's headed south. 750 00:36:53,905 --> 00:36:57,318 And we watched him actually coming back towards Columbia. 751 00:36:57,353 --> 00:36:59,836 We felt like-- that Quincy probably wanted 752 00:36:59,870 --> 00:37:01,215 to target Brian Marquis 753 00:37:01,249 --> 00:37:03,180 and some of these other individuals. 754 00:37:03,215 --> 00:37:07,077 So we called in probably a dozen or so investigators 755 00:37:07,111 --> 00:37:09,698 to try to guard them, if you will, and catch him. 756 00:37:09,732 --> 00:37:11,387 [dramatic music] 757 00:37:11,422 --> 00:37:13,767 But we were able to track that phone 758 00:37:13,801 --> 00:37:17,422 when he diverted on I-85 near Greenville 759 00:37:17,456 --> 00:37:19,353 and headed towards Atlanta 760 00:37:19,387 --> 00:37:21,698 rather than coming towards Columbia. 761 00:37:21,732 --> 00:37:26,008 That puzzled us. It appeared that Quincy was heading west. 762 00:37:26,043 --> 00:37:29,801 And then the phone either died or he quit using it. 763 00:37:29,836 --> 00:37:32,939 But we were also tracking his credit card. 764 00:37:32,974 --> 00:37:36,387 Quincy had Mr. Roush's credit cards 765 00:37:36,422 --> 00:37:41,801 and he would stop and use cards or whatever he needed. 766 00:37:41,836 --> 00:37:47,801 767 00:37:47,836 --> 00:37:49,043 That early morning, 768 00:37:49,077 --> 00:37:51,111 the subject stopped at a convenience store 769 00:37:51,146 --> 00:37:55,560 in Barrett, Texas, and used a Visa credit card 770 00:37:55,594 --> 00:38:00,974 that did belong to the victim, Robert Roush, 771 00:38:01,008 --> 00:38:05,077 prompting a alert sent to law enforcement. 772 00:38:05,111 --> 00:38:06,732 773 00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:11,077 The Sheriff's Office called me at home to let me know 774 00:38:11,111 --> 00:38:13,491 that there was a possible murder suspect 775 00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:17,353 traveling west on I-20 in a red Ford Explorer, 776 00:38:17,387 --> 00:38:19,594 Ohio license plates. 777 00:38:19,629 --> 00:38:22,732 I drove west looking for vehicles 778 00:38:22,767 --> 00:38:24,180 that match the description. 779 00:38:24,215 --> 00:38:27,698 And as I drove through the roadside park, 780 00:38:27,732 --> 00:38:30,732 I spotted a Ford Explorer. 781 00:38:30,767 --> 00:38:34,387 I ran that license plate number and affirmed 782 00:38:34,422 --> 00:38:37,077 that that is the stolen vehicle 783 00:38:37,111 --> 00:38:39,698 and should be occupied by Quincy Allen, 784 00:38:39,732 --> 00:38:41,077 the murder suspect, 785 00:38:41,111 --> 00:38:42,594 if he was in that vehicle asleep. 786 00:38:42,629 --> 00:38:44,077 [dramatic music] 787 00:38:44,111 --> 00:38:46,905 I was parked where I could keep an eye on the vehicle 788 00:38:46,939 --> 00:38:49,146 until I could get more people over to help me. 789 00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:51,215 790 00:38:51,249 --> 00:38:53,077 Your adrenaline starts going, 791 00:38:53,111 --> 00:38:57,249 your heartbeat increases rapidly, 792 00:38:57,284 --> 00:38:59,284 'cause you're dealing with the unknown. 793 00:38:59,318 --> 00:39:01,594 We got enough people there that we felt confident 794 00:39:01,629 --> 00:39:03,974 that we could take him into custody. 795 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,732 And we had some spike strips 796 00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:09,318 set down in front of his vehicle. 797 00:39:09,353 --> 00:39:11,698 I began calling him on my PA. 798 00:39:11,732 --> 00:39:15,560 Get your hands up and come out of the vehicle. 799 00:39:15,594 --> 00:39:17,525 Get your hands up, now! 800 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,180 That's when he did something that we didn't expect. 801 00:39:19,215 --> 00:39:21,801 802 00:39:21,836 --> 00:39:23,318 He started it. - Get your hands up! 803 00:39:23,353 --> 00:39:24,318 [tire pops] 804 00:39:24,353 --> 00:39:26,560 805 00:39:26,594 --> 00:39:28,732 [gunfire] 806 00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:31,525 807 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,594 The spike strips, they did flatten one of the tires. 808 00:39:35,629 --> 00:39:37,215 809 00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:42,560 So his vehicle was going to be hard to drive and steer. 810 00:39:42,594 --> 00:39:44,353 He did try to take out one more person 811 00:39:44,387 --> 00:39:46,043 before he wrecked out. 812 00:39:46,077 --> 00:39:47,353 He did run into a vehicle 813 00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,525 that had pulled off to the side of the road. 814 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,111 At the 200 mile marker. 815 00:39:51,146 --> 00:39:53,284 Is he going to come out shooting 816 00:39:53,318 --> 00:39:54,422 or is he just going to give-- 817 00:39:54,456 --> 00:39:56,043 come out with his hands up? 818 00:39:56,077 --> 00:39:58,905 We just don't know what this guy's going to do next. 819 00:40:01,698 --> 00:40:04,560 Get out of the car! Get out of the car, now! 820 00:40:04,594 --> 00:40:07,077 Get out of the car! - Get out of the car! 821 00:40:07,111 --> 00:40:09,146 Get out of the car, now! 822 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:13,215 823 00:40:13,249 --> 00:40:16,215 [indistinct radio chatter] 824 00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:17,974 825 00:40:18,008 --> 00:40:21,767 His serial killer aspirations apparently didn't include 826 00:40:21,801 --> 00:40:23,801 fighting it out with the police when he was cornered. 827 00:40:23,836 --> 00:40:25,663 828 00:40:25,698 --> 00:40:27,215 He gave it up and surrendered. 829 00:40:27,249 --> 00:40:29,111 830 00:40:29,146 --> 00:40:32,422 We brought Quincy back to Surry County, North Carolina. 831 00:40:32,456 --> 00:40:36,663 We wanted a real, you know, detailed interview. 832 00:40:36,698 --> 00:40:38,249 Quincy basically confessed 833 00:40:38,284 --> 00:40:40,249 to everything that he was accused of 834 00:40:40,284 --> 00:40:43,318 starting with the homeless man, 835 00:40:43,353 --> 00:40:45,422 Dale Hall, Texas Roadhouse, 836 00:40:45,456 --> 00:40:47,456 and Surry, North Carolina double murder. 837 00:40:47,491 --> 00:40:49,974 He confessed to all of it. 838 00:40:50,008 --> 00:40:51,698 In his statement, he said that 839 00:40:51,732 --> 00:40:54,077 while he was in federal prison for car theft, 840 00:40:54,111 --> 00:40:58,663 he had talked to someone about becoming a mafia hitman. 841 00:40:58,698 --> 00:41:00,284 842 00:41:00,318 --> 00:41:01,905 With each crime that he got away with, 843 00:41:01,939 --> 00:41:05,663 he was graduating to the next, more violent crime. 844 00:41:05,698 --> 00:41:08,008 845 00:41:08,043 --> 00:41:10,318 Quincy Allen wanted to teach himself 846 00:41:10,353 --> 00:41:12,215 to be a serial killer. 847 00:41:12,249 --> 00:41:16,146 That is twisted and evil. 848 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:20,077 Quincy Allen's crash course in becoming a serial killer 849 00:41:20,111 --> 00:41:24,732 happens with incredible speed and ease. 850 00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:28,146 He accelerates from almost target practice 851 00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:31,663 to becoming a cold-hearted serial killer 852 00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:34,387 in such a short period of time. 853 00:41:34,422 --> 00:41:39,353 Quincy succeeded in becoming a serial killer. 854 00:41:39,387 --> 00:41:43,180 He got the notoriety that he wanted. 855 00:41:43,215 --> 00:41:46,594 He got everyone's attention 856 00:41:46,629 --> 00:41:49,767 and had it not been for law enforcement, 857 00:41:49,801 --> 00:41:51,560 he would have continued. 858 00:41:54,732 --> 00:41:56,387 He was tried in Surry County, North Carolina first. 859 00:41:56,422 --> 00:41:58,318 860 00:41:58,353 --> 00:42:00,767 He took a plea bargain of life in prison 861 00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:04,525 without the possibility of parole here in North Carolina. 862 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,456 I felt obligated to bring him back to South Carolina 863 00:42:08,491 --> 00:42:11,560 and face the charges here. 864 00:42:11,594 --> 00:42:16,456 I thought this was a brutal a crime spree as I had seen. 865 00:42:16,491 --> 00:42:18,974 866 00:42:19,008 --> 00:42:21,043 I filed for the death penalty. 867 00:42:21,077 --> 00:42:22,456 It was the just thing to do. 868 00:42:22,491 --> 00:42:25,077 869 00:42:25,111 --> 00:42:26,698 He decided to plead guilty 870 00:42:26,732 --> 00:42:28,284 which meant we went to the penalty phase 871 00:42:28,318 --> 00:42:30,249 and that's when we presented the evidence. 872 00:42:30,284 --> 00:42:32,732 873 00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:37,284 The judge sentenced Quincy Allen to death. 874 00:42:37,318 --> 00:42:39,353 If there's anybody that needs the death penalty, 875 00:42:39,387 --> 00:42:40,939 it's Quincy Allen. 876 00:42:40,974 --> 00:42:42,594 'Cause if he ever gets the opportunity, 877 00:42:42,629 --> 00:42:45,767 he's going to kill again. 878 00:42:45,801 --> 00:42:50,111 I feel at peace knowing that he's away 879 00:42:50,146 --> 00:42:53,146 and no one else will be hurt. 880 00:42:53,180 --> 00:42:55,249 He done been judged by man, 881 00:42:55,284 --> 00:42:58,905 but he still got one more judgment left to go. 882 00:42:58,939 --> 00:43:00,491 Quincy Allen is evil. 883 00:43:00,525 --> 00:43:03,732 There's no doubt in my mind he represents evil. 884 00:43:03,767 --> 00:43:06,111 Well, I'm a man of strong faith 885 00:43:06,146 --> 00:43:07,974 and I truly believe that the devil is at work 886 00:43:08,008 --> 00:43:09,974 and alive today in the world. 887 00:43:10,008 --> 00:43:13,629 And I felt like I caught one of his demons from this case 888 00:43:13,663 --> 00:43:15,456 and maybe put him away that-- 889 00:43:15,491 --> 00:43:17,870 so nobody else would have to suffer. 890 00:43:27,318 --> 00:43:29,422 [inhales sharply]