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- It was a brutal killing...
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Of a beloved man that
shocks his queens community.
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- He was screaming,
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"they're killing me,
they're killing me."
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[tense music]
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- Where the body was, it was
a large amount of blood.
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- This individual was hit
in the head with a claw hammer.
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Also there was knurl marks
from the pipe wrench
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Across the face.
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- This was a brutal murder.
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- There are
no witnesses found,
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No new leads
are being developed.
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- When the case goes cold...
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- Pressure on the police
heats up.
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- We wanted to take the case
directly to the mayor.
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- There were a number of us
that said,
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"this is it.
We've had enough."
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- The gay community
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Had put so much pressure
on law enforcement,
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It actually
changed that investigation.
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- The lieutenant, george byrd,
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Decides that
he's going to go undercover.
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- And what did I learn?
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There was hatred
for the gay community.
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"let's exterminate 'em,
let's get 'em out of here."
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- We wanted justice for julio.
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[ominous music]
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[tense bassy music]
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[tense music]
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- 1990. It was a year
of record homicides.
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I was a sergeant then,
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And the city was under siege
with crime.
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But one murder in particular
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Helped shape the nypd
for decades to come.
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It was the vicious and
brutal killing of julio rivera.
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[siren wailing]
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It happened
in jackson heights, queens,
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Known as one
of the most culturally diverse
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Neighborhoods
in new york city,
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If not the world.
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But back in the day,
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Not everyone was welcomed
with open arms.
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And on a hot summer night,
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A violent attack
shone a harsh light on hate.
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[train tracks clacking]
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- This was the
July 4th weekend in 1990.
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Julio was my close friend
and, you know, life partner.
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I had seen him 20 minutes
before and we said good night.
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And he went one way
and I went the other.
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[suspenseful music]
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And I had met another friend
on my way home.
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We were talking,
and five minutes later,
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Some guy comes running down
78th street screaming,
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"they're killing somebody
in the schoolyard.
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They're killing somebody
in the schoolyard."
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Never in my wildest dreams
did I think that it was julio.
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[ominous music]
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And when we ran up the street
to see what was going on...
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I saw julio.
He was about to pass out.
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The blood was just coming
from all over.
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Just covered in blood.
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And I went over to him
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And I said to him,
"julio, it's alan.
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Do you know
who did this to you?"
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And he shook his head no
from side-to-side.
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- While his friend ran
to call an ambulance,
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Alan clung to julio.
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- I held him and reassured him
that he was gonna be fine,
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That he was definitely gonna
make it, just hang on.
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[sirens wailing]
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- An ambulance arrives within
minutes of the 911 call,
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And rush him
to nearby elmhurst hospital.
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[respirator hissing]
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- They made every effort
possible to save him.
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[steady tone droning]
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He did expire at the age of 29.
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- It's nearly 4:00 a.M.,
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And with an assault victim
now deceased,
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Officers
and homicide detectives
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From the local 115 precinct
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Are at the scene
of the attack...
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The schoolyard of ps 69,
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A place that was already
on the cops' radar.
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- Ps 69 is known for, like,
a low-level
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Quality of life
type of crime location.
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There's drug dealing
that goes on there
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And some prostitution
that would take place there.
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The dark schoolyard is sort of
the perfect place for a crime.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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- Officers cordon off the area
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And begin their search
for evidence.
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- Where the body was,
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There was a large amount
of blood,
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A smashed bottle that possibly
indicated a fight.
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- It's pretty clear that
mr. Rivera was engaged
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In some kind of
a violent struggle.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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- But other than
a smashed bottle,
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There was no other evidence
to go on.
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Their best bet
is to find a witness.
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- Police conducted
an area canvas.
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They're hoping to first,
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Identify someone who might have
seen or heard something.
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But at this particular point,
there are no witnesses found.
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- It's now after dawn.
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As the officers
wrap up the scene,
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Alan sack,
who just left the hospital,
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Faces the terrible task
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Of delivering
the devastating news.
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- Monday July 3rd, I'm getting
ready to go to my job...
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[phone ringing]
and the phone rings.
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And it's alan sack,
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And he says, "peggy,
I have some bad news for you
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Regarding julio."
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And when he said
julio's dead...
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You hear it, but it's an echo.
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He's dead?
He's dead?
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It's difficult to-to...
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To absorb.
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It's difficult to absorb.
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[somber music]
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Julio was a lot of fun.
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He was so extraordinarily
handsome.
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He looked like a really,
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Really good-looking
freddie mercury.
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And that was his era,
you know?
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He always was true to himself.
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Julio wanted
to share his gay life with us.
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Julio's family
are puerto rican.
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They lived in what we call
the projects in the bronx.
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The bronx had to be a tough
place for julio to grow up.
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His homosexuality
became more and more evident.
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Julio was definitely
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Made fun of and ridiculed
and harassed
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To the point that he was
not going to school a lot.
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Julio had to learn
how to hold his own.
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I absolutely know that
julio wanted to get out.
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He, of course, discovers
the gay community in queens
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And moves to jackson heights.
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Julio was happy to find life
in jackson heights,
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And beloved by anyone
who had time to spend with him.
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When we found out
that julio was murdered,
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It's devastating
to hear news like that.
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It's crushing.
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[tense music]
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- Back at the 115 precinct,
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Detectives have little
to go on.
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But by late morning,
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The medical examiner
submits an autopsy report,
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And the results are disturbing.
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- The medical examiner notes
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Numerous facial
and head injuries
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Indicative of being assaulted,
blunt trauma.
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Some of those wounds
are consistent
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With being struck
with a claw hammer.
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- And then he suffered from a
single stab wound to the back,
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Where it punctured his lung,
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Which they deemed
to be the fatal blow.
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It's a vicious, violent crime.
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- Results
from a toxicology test
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Are also included in
the medical examiner's report.
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It offers detectives
a possible motive.
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- Cocaine was found
in his bloodstream.
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It's pretty significant
in this case
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That the homicide was probably
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The result of something
to do with narcotics.
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- The detectives knew that
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Around ps 69, there was
lots of drug sales going on.
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It was a easier conclusion
to come to
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That it was drug-related.
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- But alan and other friends
who knew julio
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Weren't buying
the drug theory.
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- Alan never, never thought
this was a drug deal gone bad.
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He knew julio well.
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So the idea that julio
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Was mixed up in that kind
of activity
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Was just ridiculous.
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But what was much more likely
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And much more common was
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Violence against gay men
in that area.
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- It was the community who knew
that they were being attacked
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And that this was not
what had happened.
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- They just try
to slough me off,
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But they weren't
getting rid of me,
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'cause I used to go there
twice a week.
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- And when they don't respond,
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You have to elevate
the pressure.
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- Lieutenant byrd
went undercover.
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Pulled up in his own motorcycle
and walked in the bar.
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You don't want people to know
that you're a cop.
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- He went out with the
intentions of killing somebody.
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[tense bassy music]
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[tense music]
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- The morning after
the gruesome assault
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That led to the death
of julio rivera,
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Police in the 115 precinct
have no solid leads to go on.
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All they have
is a toxicology report
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And a working theory that drugs
may have led to the attack.
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- Unfortunately,
the police at the 115 precinct
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Dug in their heels.
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They were like, "no, no,
we know what this story is.
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"we know this is an area
of illicit activity.
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We're following what makes
the most sense to us."
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- But julio's friends
are ready to push back.
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- I told the detective
assigned to the case
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That I know that julio,
at the age of 29,
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Was slaughtered
in the schoolyard
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Blocks from here
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For no other reason except
the fact that he was gay.
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- Devastated and angry,
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Alan reaches out to the
only organization in new york
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Focusing
on anti-gay hate crimes.
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Called the anti-violence
project,
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He reaches matt foreman.
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- For many years,
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We'd seen wave after wave
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Of anti-gay crimes,
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And the summer
that julio was murdered,
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We went
for 13 consecutive weeks
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Where a gay person
or a lesbian person
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Was hospitalized as the result
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Of an anti-gay
or lesbian attack.
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[indistinct chatter,
whistle blowing]
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- New york city in 1990
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Was the epicenter
of the aids pandemic.
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Public fear and ignorance
of the disease
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Was being turned into hate
and violence.
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- The aids crisis contributed
to anti-gay violence
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Because of the demonization
of people with aids
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By the church and politicians.
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"oh, they're causing
this deadly disease.
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They're disease-spreaders."
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[somber music]
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- In jackson heights,
alan had arranged a meeting
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At the popular gay bar,
the magic touch,
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Led by matt foreman
for julio's loved ones.
262
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- Alan sack called me and said,
"peggy,
263
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I want you to be a part
of this."
264
00:12:31,517 --> 00:12:34,718
Well, that's the first time
I met matt foreman.
265
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- Julio's family and friends
266
00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:40,090
Were not used to dealing
with hate crime.
267
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This was a murder
of a loved one.
268
00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:46,797
But coming from
the anti-violence project,
269
00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:51,102
Where you see hate crimes
just cascading every weekend,
270
00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:56,240
It was clear to us
the murder itself was,
271
00:12:56,242 --> 00:12:58,176
You know,
classic case of overkill.
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♪ ♪
273
00:13:01,581 --> 00:13:04,482
- Matt is told that
the police focused on ps 69
274
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As a place to cop drugs,
but in jackson heights,
275
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It's also known
for something else.
276
00:13:10,256 --> 00:13:14,492
- The block or two around
ps 69 was a gay cruising area.
277
00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,994
So it was a place where
if you want to go out
278
00:13:17,063 --> 00:13:20,564
And beat up a gay person,
that's where you go.
279
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Everyone knew that.
280
00:13:24,036 --> 00:13:27,004
The viciousness of the crime
and where it occurred
281
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All led to
the opposite assumption
282
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Of the police department.
283
00:13:31,878 --> 00:13:33,611
This was a hate crime.
284
00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,246
We all came away thinking,
285
00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:37,181
"we've gotta do something here.
286
00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:40,451
We want to focus on justice
for julio."
287
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,053
[tense music]
288
00:13:42,055 --> 00:13:43,554
- Over the next several weeks,
289
00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:46,090
Matt and alan went to work
on law enforcement.
290
00:13:46,158 --> 00:13:48,960
- We called at the nypd,
291
00:13:49,028 --> 00:13:51,262
Wrote letters
to the commanding officer
292
00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:56,134
Of the 115 precinct,
and basically got no response.
293
00:13:56,202 --> 00:13:59,203
- Went over
to the 115 precinct and said,
294
00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:02,006
"so what kind of progress
are you making?"
295
00:14:02,074 --> 00:14:04,608
They just try
to slough me off.
296
00:14:04,678 --> 00:14:06,344
But they weren't
getting rid of me,
297
00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:09,380
You know, 'cause I used
to go there twice a week.
298
00:14:09,449 --> 00:14:12,350
[somber music]
299
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:15,053
- The case did come to a bit
of an investigative lull,
300
00:14:15,055 --> 00:14:17,288
However, by no means closed.
301
00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,757
No new leads
are being developed,
302
00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:22,460
So the gay community's
very frustrated
303
00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:24,528
In regards to this crime.
304
00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:27,731
- With the nypd,
when they don't respond,
305
00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:29,400
You have to elevate
the pressure.
306
00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:31,602
[tense music]
307
00:14:31,604 --> 00:14:34,572
[siren wailing]
308
00:14:34,641 --> 00:14:37,775
We decided we were gonna have
a March in jackson heights.
309
00:14:37,844 --> 00:14:39,310
And we knew that that would be
310
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:44,081
The first lgbt March
in jackson heights.
311
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:48,285
- Lgbtq people didn't March
in queens.
312
00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:49,320
They were afraid
of being exposed,
313
00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:53,223
They were afraid of being seen
by potential gay-bashers.
314
00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:58,095
- But when it struck home
and it was julio,
315
00:14:58,164 --> 00:15:00,932
There were a number of us
that said,
316
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,903
"this is it.
We've had enough."
317
00:15:04,971 --> 00:15:06,971
[tense music]
318
00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:08,906
- There had been
a lot of outreach
319
00:15:08,975 --> 00:15:12,476
To other gay
and lesbian groups.
320
00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:15,646
Matt had put out, like,
you know, an apb.
321
00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:19,617
"we want you to participate
in this demonstration."
322
00:15:19,685 --> 00:15:26,557
♪ ♪
323
00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:29,861
- 15 minutes
before it's about to start...
324
00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:30,929
And you hear the 7 train
325
00:15:30,997 --> 00:15:34,198
Coming up on the tracks
above ground.
326
00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:38,236
You can hear
the rumbling underground.
327
00:15:38,304 --> 00:15:43,507
- And all of a sudden,
the train comes in...
328
00:15:43,576 --> 00:15:46,010
And hordes of people
329
00:15:46,012 --> 00:15:49,480
Are pouring out
of this train station.
330
00:15:49,548 --> 00:15:51,115
[uplifting music]
331
00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:55,519
- This sea of gay men
and lesbians.
332
00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:58,689
And there's, like,
hundreds and hundreds of people
333
00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:01,358
That never met julio,
334
00:16:01,427 --> 00:16:03,727
That never heard the name
julio rivera.
335
00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:06,730
♪ ♪
336
00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:10,167
- Alan and matt are breathing
this sigh of relief
337
00:16:10,236 --> 00:16:14,138
That we really do
have strength in numbers.
338
00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:15,873
They showed up.
339
00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:20,011
All: No more violence!
No more violence!
340
00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:21,345
- It was the outrage over
341
00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,180
A murder of someone
in your community.
342
00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:25,016
♪ ♪
343
00:16:25,084 --> 00:16:29,853
- An attack against one of us
is an attack against all of us.
344
00:16:29,855 --> 00:16:31,655
- The site of the spot
345
00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:36,827
Where julio rivera had his life
stolen away from him.
346
00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:39,263
The strategy behind
doing the March was
347
00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:42,666
Increase pressure
on the police department
348
00:16:42,735 --> 00:16:45,336
And raise greater awareness
in jackson heights
349
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:47,538
To find out
if there were any witnesses,
350
00:16:47,607 --> 00:16:48,873
If anyone knew anything.
351
00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:50,774
All: No more violence!
352
00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,510
- After the vigil,
353
00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:55,012
Then people really started
to get more and more involved.
354
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,682
All: No more violence!
No more violence!
355
00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:00,651
♪ ♪
356
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,621
[tense music]
357
00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,489
- But even with
the jackson heights community
358
00:17:05,491 --> 00:17:07,959
Now fully engaged,
two more months pass
359
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,227
With no new movement
on the case,
360
00:17:10,296 --> 00:17:11,562
So they brought their anger
361
00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,966
To the doorstep of the mayor
of new york, david dinkins.
362
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,868
[whistling and clapping]
363
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,236
♪ ♪
364
00:17:19,305 --> 00:17:21,639
- We want to take the case
directly to the mayor.
365
00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:22,440
Because ultimately,
366
00:17:22,508 --> 00:17:23,907
He's in charge
of the police department.
367
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:25,376
- We stormed gracie mansion.
368
00:17:25,445 --> 00:17:27,878
All:
David dinkins, don't you know?
369
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,981
Homophobe killed julio!
370
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,582
David dinkins, don't you know?
371
00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:34,652
- And there are about 300
of us.
372
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,021
There was red paint,
signifying blood.
373
00:17:38,023 --> 00:17:40,691
And so take signs,
you know?
374
00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,393
[tense music]
375
00:17:42,462 --> 00:17:46,764
"100 days have already passed.
Who killed julio rivera?"
376
00:17:46,832 --> 00:17:50,101
[all chanting]
377
00:17:50,169 --> 00:17:51,502
♪ ♪
378
00:17:51,571 --> 00:17:52,770
- Mayor dinkins
was finally aware
379
00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:57,175
Of the fever pitch outrage
over the case of julio rivera.
380
00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:05,282
♪ ♪
381
00:18:05,351 --> 00:18:07,484
- Once the gay community
made its point
382
00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:12,056
And really managed to put
pressure and build awareness,
383
00:18:12,124 --> 00:18:14,057
The police started to respond,
finally.
384
00:18:14,127 --> 00:18:15,759
[dramatic music]
385
00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:18,528
- The tireless work
of the activists paid off,
386
00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:19,863
And now at the direction
of the mayor,
387
00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:22,766
The queens da's office
and their best lieutenant,
388
00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:26,303
George byrd, is assigned to
take a fresh look at the case.
389
00:18:26,372 --> 00:18:29,306
- When I get an investigation,
I start from the bottom
390
00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:30,974
As if it was a cold case.
391
00:18:30,976 --> 00:18:31,975
I'm like a pit bull.
392
00:18:31,977 --> 00:18:33,977
I get on a case,
I don't let go.
393
00:18:33,979 --> 00:18:36,314
♪ ♪
394
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,084
- Finally,
a witness came forward.
395
00:18:40,152 --> 00:18:43,354
- The eyewitness saw three
people fleeing the location,
396
00:18:43,422 --> 00:18:45,589
Two of them being skinheads.
397
00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:47,190
- If you're in a gay community
398
00:18:47,192 --> 00:18:49,360
And you see skinheads
in your area,
399
00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:50,628
You know it's trouble.
400
00:18:50,696 --> 00:18:52,130
♪ ♪
401
00:19:00,405 --> 00:19:02,940
[tense bassy music]
402
00:19:03,008 --> 00:19:06,076
[suspenseful music]
403
00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:07,145
♪ ♪
404
00:19:07,213 --> 00:19:08,546
- After public outrage
405
00:19:08,614 --> 00:19:10,047
And pressure
on the mayor of new york,
406
00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:11,181
The queens district attorney
407
00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:13,184
Has directed
lieutenant george byrd
408
00:19:13,252 --> 00:19:15,018
To throw everything he's got
409
00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:17,221
Into finding out
who killed julio rivera.
410
00:19:17,290 --> 00:19:22,793
♪ ♪
411
00:19:22,862 --> 00:19:26,497
- Once we got to the
district attorney's office,
412
00:19:26,565 --> 00:19:31,102
Lieutenant george byrd
went after this case
413
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,270
With unrelentless pursuit.
414
00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:35,306
♪ ♪
415
00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:36,740
- When I got involved
in this particular case,
416
00:19:36,809 --> 00:19:39,477
I reached out
to the gay community
417
00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:44,214
And also the area in which
this crime took place.
418
00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:46,650
I was able to talk to them
in such a way
419
00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:48,752
That they
were comfortable enough
420
00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:53,957
And they would trust me,
okay, to do the right thing.
421
00:19:53,959 --> 00:19:55,659
And because of that,
422
00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:58,829
Information started to flow
in my direction.
423
00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:00,965
Changed the whole case.
424
00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,768
[tense music]
425
00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:06,470
- After nearly five months
since julio's murder,
426
00:20:06,472 --> 00:20:09,139
They get the break
they've been hoping for.
427
00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,841
- We needed witnesses.
428
00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:13,211
And finally,
a witness came forward.
429
00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:15,746
The gay community
pushed them forward to come in.
430
00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,215
♪ ♪
431
00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:20,584
- A gentleman by the name of
tony aris
432
00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:25,589
Who happens to be
a gay male prostitute,
433
00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:27,758
He provides some key details,
434
00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:30,561
Which is very helpful
to investigators.
435
00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:32,830
♪ ♪
436
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:36,533
- Tony explained to me that
the night of the incident,
437
00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:39,837
Tony was working that night,
the cruising area.
438
00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:45,642
Men would come in in cars.
He'd get picked up.
439
00:20:45,711 --> 00:20:48,245
They would have their
transaction in the vehicle,
440
00:20:48,314 --> 00:20:50,214
And tony would
get right back in the street.
441
00:20:50,282 --> 00:20:52,349
♪ ♪
442
00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:53,917
- Tony tells lieutenant byrd
443
00:20:53,986 --> 00:20:56,653
At approximately 2:00 a.M.
On July 3rd,
444
00:20:56,722 --> 00:20:59,957
He noticed julio rivera
at ps 69.
445
00:21:00,025 --> 00:21:02,793
♪ ♪
446
00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:06,263
- He saw julio rivera go back
to this alcove...
447
00:21:06,331 --> 00:21:08,699
♪ ♪
448
00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:13,203
Where he was approached
by one individual.
449
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:16,940
And this individual
had long hair.
450
00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:19,943
- Tony's attention turns
to another trick.
451
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,613
15 minutes pass and he's back.
452
00:21:22,681 --> 00:21:24,215
- He just finished
with a client,
453
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,951
And now, he sees three males
454
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:30,554
Leave this alcove, running.
455
00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:32,790
Two of them were skinheads.
456
00:21:32,858 --> 00:21:37,361
Two of them were wearing
doc marten boots.
457
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:39,496
One had a tattoo,
458
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:42,966
A double-headed eagle
on his arm.
459
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:45,336
The one with the longer hair
was the individual
460
00:21:45,404 --> 00:21:47,971
He saw talking to julio.
461
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,706
♪ ♪
462
00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:53,177
One was carrying a hammer
and one was carrying a wrench.
463
00:21:53,245 --> 00:21:55,546
♪ ♪
464
00:21:55,614 --> 00:21:58,582
These were weapons that match
the wounds on the deceased
465
00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:00,817
Based on the autopsy report.
466
00:22:00,819 --> 00:22:01,985
♪ ♪
467
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:05,088
- Armed with this new, vital
intel on potential suspects,
468
00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:07,224
Police are eager
to canvas jackson heights
469
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:11,662
For any leads on known
skinhead gangs in the area.
470
00:22:11,731 --> 00:22:14,331
- There was word in the street
471
00:22:14,399 --> 00:22:18,301
That there was a group
of skinheads
472
00:22:18,303 --> 00:22:19,870
Who were trying to establish
473
00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:23,006
A form of control
in jackson heights,
474
00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:25,342
And they were known as dms.
475
00:22:25,411 --> 00:22:27,678
Doc martens skinheads
or death machine skinheads.
476
00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:29,780
Never heard of 'em,
didn't know anything about 'em.
477
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:34,518
♪ ♪
478
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,888
- Dms was not on
the nypd gang unit's radar,
479
00:22:37,957 --> 00:22:41,191
But when they search for signs
of them in jackson heights,
480
00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:43,260
They find them.
481
00:22:43,262 --> 00:22:44,695
- You would see tags
482
00:22:44,763 --> 00:22:48,365
On buildings, on fences,
on schools.
483
00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:51,869
Dms, dms, dms.
484
00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:55,706
♪ ♪
485
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:58,041
- Doc martens skinheads
have marked their territory,
486
00:22:58,110 --> 00:23:01,445
And lieutenant byrd wants
to meet them face-to-face.
487
00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:03,046
♪ ♪
488
00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:06,850
- Detectives learn that dms,
489
00:23:06,852 --> 00:23:08,218
That hangs out
in jackson heights
490
00:23:08,287 --> 00:23:09,686
Sections of queens,
491
00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:10,988
And frequent an establishment
492
00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:14,157
Or a bar in queens
known as kennedy bar.
493
00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:15,492
- So in order for me
494
00:23:15,494 --> 00:23:17,294
To find out
what this was all about,
495
00:23:17,363 --> 00:23:20,063
How could I get in there?
496
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:21,665
[suspenseful music]
497
00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:24,168
- Lieutenant george byrd
decides
498
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:27,471
He is going to go undercover
within kennedy's bar.
499
00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:28,906
[whistling and chatter]
500
00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:32,976
- At kennedy's, everyone
knows who comes in or out.
501
00:23:33,045 --> 00:23:36,813
Dms has staked its claim here,
and going in undercover
502
00:23:36,882 --> 00:23:39,750
Could mean
putting his life on the line.
503
00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:42,553
- I have a harley-davidson.
504
00:23:42,621 --> 00:23:44,688
When you pull up to a place
on a motorcycle
505
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:46,189
Wearing a jean jacket...
506
00:23:46,191 --> 00:23:49,092
♪ ♪
507
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:50,761
Park it right in front
of the place,
508
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:55,265
Get off the bike, throw your
helmet down on the ground...
509
00:23:55,334 --> 00:23:57,435
Walk in the door,
everybody loves you.
510
00:23:57,503 --> 00:24:01,338
♪ ♪
511
00:24:01,406 --> 00:24:02,840
And that's what I did.
512
00:24:02,908 --> 00:24:05,108
♪ ♪
513
00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:06,643
[indistinct chatter]
514
00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:09,046
- Lieutenant byrd settles in
at the bar
515
00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:10,181
And keeps his ears open.
516
00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:12,215
♪ ♪
517
00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:15,452
He spies a man with a tough,
skinhead look
518
00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:18,455
And casually
starts a conversation.
519
00:24:18,524 --> 00:24:21,458
- An individual by the name
of army dan,
520
00:24:21,527 --> 00:24:24,628
Who was dressed
in army-type clothes,
521
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:29,466
He was a skinhead,
a part of the dms scene.
522
00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:33,303
I was trying to ascertain
from him what he knew
523
00:24:33,372 --> 00:24:35,939
Just in casual conversation.
524
00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:37,675
If I would've
identified myself,
525
00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:38,809
The walls would've gone up
526
00:24:38,877 --> 00:24:41,044
And the information
would've stopped.
527
00:24:41,113 --> 00:24:43,947
- After a few drinks,
army dan starts talking
528
00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:46,349
And the case
finally breaks open.
529
00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:50,421
- Army dan tells him
he may have some information
530
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,389
About the rivera homicide.
531
00:24:52,457 --> 00:24:53,824
[dramatic music]
532
00:24:53,893 --> 00:24:56,860
- And he was very free
with information.
533
00:24:56,929 --> 00:25:00,831
♪ ♪
534
00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:12,843
[tense music]
535
00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:15,579
[dramatic music]
536
00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:17,047
♪ ♪
537
00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:18,782
- Working undercover,
lieutenant byrd
538
00:25:18,784 --> 00:25:21,785
Has dms member, army dan,
right where he wants him.
539
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,921
[suspenseful music]
540
00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:26,389
- Army dan was a great
informant to me
541
00:25:26,459 --> 00:25:28,591
Because he was giving me
all the,
542
00:25:28,593 --> 00:25:31,328
You know, workings of dms.
543
00:25:31,396 --> 00:25:33,531
I found out that dms
544
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,066
Was made up of
different ethnic groups,
545
00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:39,202
So it wasn't like
a white supremacist group.
546
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:40,937
That wasn't the case.
547
00:25:40,939 --> 00:25:45,042
Dms was established as trying
to keep jackson heights
548
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:48,279
A certain type of place.
549
00:25:48,347 --> 00:25:53,750
They did not want this influx
of gay people coming in.
550
00:25:53,819 --> 00:25:55,952
They're kind of bragging about
551
00:25:56,021 --> 00:25:57,754
This individual
who was murdered
552
00:25:57,823 --> 00:26:00,157
Or killed in jackson heights.
553
00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:03,193
[ominous music]
554
00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:05,295
- Lieutenant byrd
has heard enough.
555
00:26:05,364 --> 00:26:06,930
The following day,
556
00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:09,033
Army dan is brought into the
station house for questioning.
557
00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:12,503
He is told he is a suspect
in the murder of julio rivera,
558
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,038
So he better talk.
559
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,440
- Army dan's
questioned extensively,
560
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,510
And denies any knowledge
of the crime.
561
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:20,711
They continue to press him,
562
00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:23,113
Continue to go at him
a little bit,
563
00:26:23,182 --> 00:26:24,781
And finally, he says
564
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:27,650
That the crime was committed
565
00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:31,922
By three particular
individuals, dms members,
566
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:35,526
And he discloses the identity
of those individuals as
567
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:41,464
Esat bici, as dan doyle,
and erik brown.
568
00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:43,032
The eyewitness saw
569
00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:45,502
Three people
fleeing the location.
570
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,772
- Army dan tells me that there
was a party that took place
571
00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,941
The night julio
was found murdered
572
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:55,178
At an individual's house
by the name of danny doyle.
573
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,648
[tense music]
574
00:26:57,716 --> 00:27:00,951
So danny doyle was there
and erik brown,
575
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:05,188
And esat bici--
they called esat "ed."
576
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:08,158
They drank and they were there
for a period of time.
577
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:09,692
♪ ♪
578
00:27:09,694 --> 00:27:12,229
Toward the end of the party,
579
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:16,166
Now it's, "let's go out,
let's go do something for dms."
580
00:27:16,235 --> 00:27:20,703
♪ ♪
581
00:27:20,705 --> 00:27:22,973
- Army dan says
that's all he remembers.
582
00:27:23,041 --> 00:27:24,841
Detectives release him
583
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:27,811
And turn a laser focus
on these new suspects.
584
00:27:27,879 --> 00:27:29,713
- Investigators decide
they're gonna bring in
585
00:27:29,781 --> 00:27:34,985
Esat "ed" bici,
dan doyle, and erik brown.
586
00:27:35,054 --> 00:27:38,655
- All three suspects are known
locals and were easy to find,
587
00:27:38,724 --> 00:27:40,491
But when they are brought in
for questioning,
588
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:44,128
All three have suspiciously
changed their appearance.
589
00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:47,197
- Esat bici has grown out
his hair.
590
00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:48,799
Dan doyle as well.
591
00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:51,868
Erik brown, who was described
as having longer hair,
592
00:27:51,937 --> 00:27:54,071
Has sort of cut his hair,
593
00:27:54,139 --> 00:27:56,473
Trimmed it down,
and dyed it another color.
594
00:27:56,541 --> 00:27:58,441
- They didn't want to be out
in jackson heights
595
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,277
Looking like they did.
596
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:03,746
- Erik brown was a bright kid.
College student.
597
00:28:03,748 --> 00:28:08,752
20-year-old daniel doyle was
the son of an nypd detective.
598
00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:13,290
- 18-year-old esat bici
is of albanian descent,
599
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:16,226
Fully embraced
the skinhead movement.
600
00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:21,832
Esat bici also has a large,
double-headed eagle tattoo,
601
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,635
Albanian-style flag
tattooed on his arm.
602
00:28:25,637 --> 00:28:27,771
♪ ♪
603
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,339
- This tattoo matches
604
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,242
The eyewitness description
perfectly.
605
00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:35,178
Detectives are sure
they got the right guys,
606
00:28:35,247 --> 00:28:37,113
But when they interview each
separately,
607
00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:39,917
They're all in lockstep
with their answers.
608
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,252
- All three individuals
deny any knowledge
609
00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:46,123
Of having any affiliation
or any part of any role
610
00:28:46,191 --> 00:28:49,993
In the julio rivera homicide,
and at that point,
611
00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:52,295
Disclosed nothing else.
612
00:28:52,364 --> 00:28:54,331
- With no hard evidence
to keep them,
613
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,633
All police could do
was treat them as suspects,
614
00:28:56,701 --> 00:29:00,471
Get their mugshots and prints,
and let them go.
615
00:29:00,539 --> 00:29:04,508
♪ ♪
616
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:05,942
- Enough time had passed by
617
00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:09,312
That they felt like,
"we got it made."
618
00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:12,282
You know, "no one's really
gonna make a case against us.
619
00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:15,518
They don't have any evidence.
They don't have anything."
620
00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:18,722
- But our attitude was we're
not gonna make it that easy.
621
00:29:18,791 --> 00:29:23,026
We go back to our eyewitness
at the crime scene, tony aris.
622
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:26,697
- In order to get an id,
623
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:29,632
I did a photo array.
624
00:29:29,634 --> 00:29:33,604
And the photo array's made up
of six photos.
625
00:29:33,672 --> 00:29:35,772
Esat bici in one of them,
626
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,208
Danny doyle in another one,
627
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,743
And erik brown
in the other one.
628
00:29:40,745 --> 00:29:45,882
♪ ♪
629
00:29:45,951 --> 00:29:48,919
Tony aris
picked out all three.
630
00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:51,187
- Lieutenant byrd
now has two witnesses
631
00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:53,690
Who have given him positive
ids on the alleged killers,
632
00:29:53,758 --> 00:29:57,860
But if the case goes to trial,
he knows he needs more.
633
00:29:57,862 --> 00:29:59,096
- If you're prosecuting a case,
634
00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:04,467
You need to have enough
evidence to win your case.
635
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,805
I had what I had,
but I didn't have enough.
636
00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:09,472
- He wanted a confession,
637
00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:11,208
But as soon as they were told
they were suspects,
638
00:30:11,276 --> 00:30:14,745
Esat bici and erik brown
had lawyered up.
639
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:18,949
Danny doyle was his only hope.
640
00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:22,085
- Danny doyle's father
was retired law enforcement.
641
00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:23,886
I laid the cards on the table.
642
00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:26,089
I said to him, "look."
643
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:27,223
Either danny doyle was gonna
644
00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:29,626
Take the fall for this
by himself
645
00:30:29,694 --> 00:30:31,094
Or he was going to work out
646
00:30:31,096 --> 00:30:32,895
Some type of
cooperation agreement
647
00:30:32,897 --> 00:30:34,631
With the da's office.
648
00:30:34,699 --> 00:30:39,369
What would be the best outcome
for your son?
649
00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:41,304
And at that point in time,
650
00:30:41,306 --> 00:30:43,974
Danny doyle became available
for me to interview.
651
00:30:44,042 --> 00:30:48,111
♪ ♪
652
00:31:01,826 --> 00:31:03,727
[dramatic music]
653
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,696
♪ ♪
654
00:31:15,106 --> 00:31:17,607
[tense bassy music]
655
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:21,178
[sirens wailing]
656
00:31:21,246 --> 00:31:24,247
- Detectives have three
positively id'd suspects
657
00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:26,015
In the murder of julio rivera,
658
00:31:26,085 --> 00:31:29,185
And the queens da's office
and lieutenant byrd
659
00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:32,021
Are doing everything they can
to lock in their case.
660
00:31:32,091 --> 00:31:35,092
Danny doyle is the key
that they need.
661
00:31:36,294 --> 00:31:39,095
- Okay, now mr. Doyle,
I understand that
662
00:31:39,164 --> 00:31:42,765
You have a statement
to make to us this morning.
663
00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:44,034
- Yes.
664
00:31:44,102 --> 00:31:45,468
- Danny doyle took me through
665
00:31:45,537 --> 00:31:48,238
Every step of the night
of the party.
666
00:31:48,307 --> 00:31:50,106
♪ ♪
667
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:53,043
- On the night of July 1st,
668
00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:56,046
I had an informal gathering
at my house.
669
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:58,448
People that I know.
670
00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:01,584
After the party
had disassembled,
671
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:05,588
I was left at the house
with two of my guests.
672
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:09,259
Myself, erik brown, and ed.
673
00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:11,294
- Before they leave,
danny goes over,
674
00:32:11,363 --> 00:32:15,899
Opens his father's toolbox,
comes out with a claw hammer,
675
00:32:15,967 --> 00:32:18,067
Comes out with a pipe wrench,
676
00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:20,737
And somewhere,
this little knife,
677
00:32:20,806 --> 00:32:23,140
Thin-bladed knife.
678
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:26,209
He issues the weapons out.
679
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:30,613
- We ended up going
to 34th avenue
680
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:33,083
Somewhere in the mid-70s.
681
00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:35,885
- Why would you
be taking weapons?
682
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,754
Why would you be
carrying these things
683
00:32:37,823 --> 00:32:39,989
If you were just gonna go out
skipping along the highway?
684
00:32:39,991 --> 00:32:42,358
♪ ♪
685
00:32:42,427 --> 00:32:45,896
They had bad intentions
when they left the house.
686
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:49,967
So basically,
it was a hunting party.
687
00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,903
- Approximately 10:00 to 2:00
that morning,
688
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:56,839
We then proceeded towards
ps 69,
689
00:32:56,909 --> 00:33:01,177
Which is on 37th avenue
and 78th street.
690
00:33:01,246 --> 00:33:04,981
- Ps 69, known cruising area,
drug location,
691
00:33:05,049 --> 00:33:07,116
And what do they see?
692
00:33:07,186 --> 00:33:10,420
Julio standing there.
693
00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:13,189
And danny doyle
tells erik brown
694
00:33:13,258 --> 00:33:16,960
To go up to that guy
and tell him, "sex for drugs."
695
00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:18,895
♪ ♪
696
00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:22,232
They walk around
to the alcove.
697
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,801
The other two come up
out of the darkness
698
00:33:24,869 --> 00:33:29,172
And now, they approach julio.
699
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:32,842
Bici hits him over the head
with a beer bottle.
700
00:33:32,911 --> 00:33:36,146
♪ ♪
701
00:33:36,214 --> 00:33:38,048
The assault starts.
702
00:33:38,116 --> 00:33:41,484
- What was the first thing
that you did?
703
00:33:41,486 --> 00:33:43,854
- I hit the guy with my fist.
704
00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:47,090
♪ ♪
705
00:33:47,159 --> 00:33:52,028
And I saw ed
pull a carpenter's hammer
706
00:33:52,096 --> 00:33:54,431
From his lower back.
707
00:33:54,499 --> 00:33:55,865
♪ ♪
708
00:33:55,934 --> 00:33:58,167
- What type of hammer was it?
709
00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:03,773
- Clawed on one side
and blunt on the other.
710
00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,909
So ed's swinging the hammer.
711
00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:09,546
♪ ♪
712
00:34:09,614 --> 00:34:13,149
At this point,
the gentleman was...
713
00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:15,118
Was crouched over.
714
00:34:15,187 --> 00:34:19,255
And he was standing,
but he was bent over.
715
00:34:19,257 --> 00:34:24,727
And ed started bludgeoning him
with the hammer again.
716
00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,896
♪ ♪
717
00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:31,033
- How hard ed was hitting
718
00:34:31,035 --> 00:34:33,936
This gentleman with the hammer?
719
00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:35,505
- With full force.
720
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:37,674
- And when you say
with full force,
721
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:39,609
What do you mean by that?
722
00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:41,678
- As hard as he could.
723
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:45,281
♪ ♪
724
00:34:45,283 --> 00:34:49,151
Erik pulled from his pant leg
725
00:34:49,153 --> 00:34:51,421
A plumber's wrench.
726
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:53,523
♪ ♪
727
00:34:53,592 --> 00:34:55,358
And at that point,
728
00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:59,229
He swung it up
and the guy was bent over
729
00:34:59,297 --> 00:35:01,964
And it hit him somewhere
in the facial area.
730
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:05,735
And he was swinging it
731
00:35:05,804 --> 00:35:09,439
As hard and as fast
as he could, it seemed to me.
732
00:35:09,508 --> 00:35:10,373
Vigorously.
733
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,609
- And what did you do
with the knife?
734
00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:16,379
- I took the knife and I
735
00:35:16,381 --> 00:35:21,551
Swung it down
and it entered the guy's back.
736
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:27,056
- Danny doyle was the one who
caused the final death blow.
737
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:28,825
♪ ♪
738
00:35:28,894 --> 00:35:31,228
It was that one stab wound.
739
00:35:31,296 --> 00:35:33,029
It basically
punctured his lung.
740
00:35:33,097 --> 00:35:34,797
♪ ♪
741
00:35:34,866 --> 00:35:39,268
- The puncture caused him
to bleed internally.
742
00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:42,705
He was basically drowning
in his own blood.
743
00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:48,378
♪ ♪
744
00:35:48,446 --> 00:35:49,812
- Danny doyle had admitted
to murder
745
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:52,115
On tape and was arrested,
746
00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:55,017
But what danny wouldn't
admit to in his first statement
747
00:35:55,087 --> 00:35:57,787
Is why they targeted julio.
748
00:35:57,789 --> 00:36:01,390
The da's office
wanted a clear motive.
749
00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:05,495
- When you look at intent--
now again, my job, intent.
750
00:36:05,564 --> 00:36:08,965
I've got to present this
to a da
751
00:36:09,034 --> 00:36:10,667
And they gotta present it
to a jury.
752
00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:14,171
Who had the most intent
to hurt this person?
753
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,173
- Lieutenant byrd
keeps danny talking
754
00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:19,375
And safe until the trial.
755
00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:21,478
As a cop's kid
with a violent temper,
756
00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:25,047
Byrd knew his days could
be numbered at riker's island.
757
00:36:25,049 --> 00:36:28,451
- But I had to take
danny doyle out of a facility
758
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:32,588
Every day
for his own protection.
759
00:36:32,657 --> 00:36:36,459
So I had him
and the whole time I had him,
760
00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:39,662
I'm getting information.
It's nonstop.
761
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:43,499
He told me that
there was hatred,
762
00:36:43,501 --> 00:36:44,767
Hatred for the gay community.
763
00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:47,203
They didn't want to see this
in their community.
764
00:36:47,272 --> 00:36:49,472
So what do you do?
765
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,808
"let's exterminate 'em,
let's get 'em out of here."
766
00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:53,643
♪ ♪
767
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:56,446
There was no doubt about it
in my mind it was a hate crime.
768
00:36:56,514 --> 00:37:00,917
And so with that,
we put that in his case
769
00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:02,953
That this was a hate crime.
770
00:37:03,021 --> 00:37:06,289
- The da's office offers
danny doyle a plea deal--
771
00:37:06,358 --> 00:37:07,890
Manslaughter
and a shorter sentence
772
00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:09,892
In exchange
for his full testimony,
773
00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:12,428
Which includes testifying
against esat and erik
774
00:37:12,497 --> 00:37:14,196
In front of a jury.
775
00:37:14,266 --> 00:37:17,099
Dan doyle takes the plea.
776
00:37:17,169 --> 00:37:19,469
[siren wailing]
777
00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:21,104
- Now at that particular time,
778
00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:25,442
Hate crimes being described
in the gay community
779
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:28,044
Really wasn't something
widely talked about,
780
00:37:28,112 --> 00:37:29,579
If ever talked about.
781
00:37:29,648 --> 00:37:30,780
♪ ♪
782
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:32,649
- No one in the state
of new york had ever
783
00:37:32,717 --> 00:37:36,853
Been tried and convicted
of an anti-gay hate crime.
784
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:40,589
The stakes for this historical
trial could not be higher.
785
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:46,296
- Going into the trial,
we were concerned.
786
00:37:46,364 --> 00:37:48,397
There was always
the possibility
787
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:50,033
That something could go wrong.
788
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:54,638
♪ ♪
789
00:38:03,947 --> 00:38:06,816
[tense bassy music]
790
00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:09,886
[suspenseful music]
791
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,154
- On November 3rd, 1991,
792
00:38:12,224 --> 00:38:14,758
The trial against suspected
killers, esat bici,
793
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,526
Erik brown, and danny doyle,
794
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:18,828
Begins at the state supreme
court in queens.
795
00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:20,496
With the help
of danny's testimony,
796
00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:24,200
Positive ids on all three,
and esat's tattoo,
797
00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:25,635
Prosecutors set out to prove
798
00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:28,171
This was a crime
motivated by hate.
799
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,574
♪ ♪
800
00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:33,576
- Going into trial,
dan mccarthy,
801
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:35,711
The da at that time,
802
00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:39,115
Put together his group
of prosecutors.
803
00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:42,652
You're talking--
you got top guns here.
804
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,121
Danny doyle,
we got him on the stand
805
00:38:45,189 --> 00:38:47,089
And testified the truth.
806
00:38:47,091 --> 00:38:50,693
♪ ♪
807
00:38:50,762 --> 00:38:53,330
- For julio's family,
the trial was the first time
808
00:38:53,398 --> 00:38:54,664
They would hear
the gruesome account
809
00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:57,600
Of what happened on July 2nd.
810
00:38:57,602 --> 00:38:59,369
- It was so horrific
811
00:38:59,437 --> 00:39:03,873
To hear danny doyle describe
812
00:39:03,942 --> 00:39:05,808
The details of the murder.
813
00:39:05,877 --> 00:39:07,510
♪ ♪
814
00:39:07,579 --> 00:39:11,580
During the trial,
they introduce a claw hammer.
815
00:39:11,582 --> 00:39:15,751
In order to prove that
he was hit with a hammer...
816
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,154
♪ ♪
817
00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:23,293
They measured the circumference
818
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:26,629
Of the hammer marks on his arms
819
00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:30,466
As he's raising his arms
to defend himself.
820
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:31,867
He was screaming,
821
00:39:31,937 --> 00:39:34,904
"they're killing me,
they're killing me."
822
00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:38,140
I had no idea
823
00:39:38,142 --> 00:39:41,377
That that's what happened.
824
00:39:41,445 --> 00:39:46,516
It's beyond our comprehension
to do that to a human being.
825
00:39:46,584 --> 00:39:48,117
How do you do that?
826
00:39:48,186 --> 00:39:50,052
[somber music]
827
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,188
♪ ♪
828
00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:55,057
[tense music]
829
00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:57,960
- The prosecution and the
defense teams battle it out
830
00:39:57,962 --> 00:40:01,630
For two weeks
in front of judge and jury.
831
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:04,434
- The mood in the courtroom
was always tense.
832
00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:07,237
Would the pieces that the
prosecution put together
833
00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:10,072
Be enough to sustain
a conviction?
834
00:40:10,141 --> 00:40:11,541
[somber music]
835
00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:12,942
- When both sides rested,
836
00:40:13,011 --> 00:40:14,877
Family and friends
in the gay community
837
00:40:14,879 --> 00:40:17,547
Who rallied for justice
waited with bated breath
838
00:40:17,615 --> 00:40:21,884
As the jury deliberated
for three solid days.
839
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,352
- I remember
the verdict came back,
840
00:40:23,354 --> 00:40:24,954
It was 10:00, 11:00
in the morning.
841
00:40:25,023 --> 00:40:27,323
♪ ♪
842
00:40:27,391 --> 00:40:29,959
Everybody's in the courtroom.
843
00:40:30,028 --> 00:40:34,297
The jury stands up
to give the verdict.
844
00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:35,898
Guilty.
845
00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:38,634
- Erik brown and esat bici
are found guilty
846
00:40:38,703 --> 00:40:42,438
Of second-degree murder,
facing life sentences.
847
00:40:42,506 --> 00:40:44,540
Danny doyle, after the plea,
848
00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:47,176
Is sentenced up to 25 years
in prison.
849
00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:52,382
♪ ♪
850
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:55,551
- When the verdict
came back guilty,
851
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:59,389
It was a monumental relief
852
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:01,524
And a monumental feeling of,
853
00:41:01,593 --> 00:41:04,461
"we did get justice
for julio."
854
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:08,998
♪ ♪
855
00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:12,168
- The julio rivera case
856
00:41:12,236 --> 00:41:14,670
Marks the first
gay hate crime conviction
857
00:41:14,739 --> 00:41:17,206
In new york state history.
858
00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:18,908
[cheers and applause]
859
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:21,077
Later that night,
friends, family,
860
00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:24,514
And the lgbtq community
in jackson heights
861
00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:26,749
Marched again, only this time,
862
00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:29,151
To mark
this bittersweet victory.
863
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:30,920
[cheers and applause]
864
00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:34,890
- There were storekeepers
on 37th avenue
865
00:41:34,892 --> 00:41:38,027
That lit candles outside
their stores
866
00:41:38,096 --> 00:41:43,565
And restaurants,
straight-owned businesses.
867
00:41:43,567 --> 00:41:46,168
This is really one of our own.
868
00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:47,703
Julio wasn't alone.
869
00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:51,441
As I look around, I think
we were all here that night.
870
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:52,842
We've been here
after that night,
871
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:54,243
The night
of the candlelight vigil,
872
00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:55,978
And we're here tonight.
873
00:41:56,047 --> 00:41:57,647
[cheers and applause]
874
00:41:57,715 --> 00:42:00,817
- Justice for everyone!
875
00:42:00,885 --> 00:42:05,454
♪ ♪
876
00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:08,791
- Julio's murder
brought to the forefront
877
00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:12,228
The violence
against homosexuals
878
00:42:12,296 --> 00:42:15,597
In our community
and in our nation.
879
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,200
It was astounding,
880
00:42:18,269 --> 00:42:22,805
And it brought more stories
to the surface.
881
00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:27,710
It allowed the police
to take it more seriously.
882
00:42:27,779 --> 00:42:30,179
There was a tremendous impact.
883
00:42:30,248 --> 00:42:31,980
[bittersweet music]
884
00:42:31,982 --> 00:42:33,683
- We all consider this
as the case
885
00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:35,485
Where we learned
we needed to do better,
886
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,119
And we did.
887
00:42:37,188 --> 00:42:40,757
This eventually led to
an nypd unit specially trained
888
00:42:40,759 --> 00:42:44,093
To investigate
anti-lgbtq violence.
889
00:42:44,162 --> 00:42:45,995
♪ ♪
890
00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:47,896
- Our society's come a long,
long way.
891
00:42:47,966 --> 00:42:51,867
Law enforcement has come way,
way past that.
892
00:42:51,936 --> 00:42:55,237
I give the credit
to the gay community.
893
00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:58,974
Because they're the ones that
pressured the mayor's office,
894
00:42:59,043 --> 00:43:01,410
Pressured
the police department,
895
00:43:01,479 --> 00:43:02,545
So when the people stand up
896
00:43:02,613 --> 00:43:05,114
And say, "hey," you know,
"we're here," you know,
897
00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:08,117
"what are you gonna do?
We're not going away."
898
00:43:08,186 --> 00:43:10,486
They gotta listen,
and that's what happened.
899
00:43:10,555 --> 00:43:11,687
Things got changed.
900
00:43:11,756 --> 00:43:12,988
♪ ♪
901
00:43:13,057 --> 00:43:17,126
- I think julio would
be very pleased
902
00:43:17,195 --> 00:43:20,630
That his suffering
903
00:43:20,698 --> 00:43:23,599
And his murder led to
904
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:27,937
Such a tremendous impact
905
00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:31,941
That it had on a community,
a nation.
906
00:43:32,009 --> 00:43:32,875
A world, really.
907
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:37,647
- It was a very big
political victory
908
00:43:37,715 --> 00:43:40,550
For the gay community,
909
00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,653
And it was a very high price
to pay.