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- She was a celebrity realtor
to the stars...
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- She sold apartments
to Steven Spielberg,
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Bruce Willis, Bette Midler.
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[dramatic music]
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- Found dead
in her luxury penthouse.
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- She was a fun-loving person.
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It's still kind of shocking
and surreal.
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- She says that a male
wearing all black
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enters the apartment.
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- It's catnip
for the New York press.
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- Cases like this
become a complete vacuum
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and suck up all the attention.
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- How could something
so vicious
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happen in Manhattan's
high society?
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- When I looked back
at the video,
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I could see the taxicab
pull up and drop her off.
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- Linda had a lot of enemies.
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Could anybody be angry enough
to want to murder her?
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Well, the line forms
on the left.
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- For the NYPD,
the night before Halloween
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is always a night
to expect the unexpected.
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And October 30, 2007,
was no exception.
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Detectives get a call
to a suspicious death
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at a 5th Avenue penthouse
in Manhattan's Upper East Side,
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a neighborhood known
for its world-renowned museums
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and luxury shops,
not for foul play.
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Yet it's here that a member
of New York's elite,
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62-year-old Linda Stein,
is found in a pool of blood.
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This is one
of our most vexing cases.
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Many A-listers and all
of New York wanted answers.
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The mystery begins
with a 911 call
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from a distraught daughter.
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- October 30th is
the night before Halloween--
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it would be crazy anywhere
in a metropolitan setting--
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when we got the call
that there was a suspicious DOA
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in the 19th Precinct.
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The 19th Precinct
is the Upper East Side,
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and it really is
one of the richest
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zip codes in America.
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So anything that happens,
it's a news case.
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[sirens wailing]
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- When, I pull up--
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the folks in the media,
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they monitor
the police frequency--
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there's already a sizable crowd
of news stations
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outside the building.
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- Detectives thread
their way past news cameras
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and take
the semiprivate elevator
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to the 18th-floor penthouse.
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- The apartment was nice,
well maintained.
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There wasn't really
any kind of upset
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in the apartment or mess.
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Nothing was in disarray
or anything like that.
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- When we enter the apartment,
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the victim
is laying on the floor.
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Had a hoodie
pulled over her head.
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- I observed
the female facedown,
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and there was a puddle
of blood around her head.
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- There was no obvious weapon
laying around,
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but there was holes
in the back of the hoodie
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that the victim was wearing.
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- I got up close
and looked in there.
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I says, "This is bad."
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You could see blood,
brain matter
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underneath
the actual hole itself.
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- She looked like
she was badly beaten.
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It was just obvious
that this was a homicide.
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- We also found that
the front door was locked,
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the back door was unlocked.
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- Since there doesn't appear
to be a break-in,
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detectives theorize that Linda
might have known her killer
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and let them into her home.
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They dust the apartment
and swab for DNA.
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- Medical examiner came.
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The body was eventually removed
to the morgue.
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At that point, I have to
interview the building staff,
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interview neighbors.
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Entire building has to be
canvassed top to bottom.
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- And the first person
detectives speak to is Mandy,
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the victim's daughter
who called 911.
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That's when
they start to realize
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exactly who Linda Stein was.
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- We did find out
through Mandy
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that Elton John
is her godfather.
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That's when I realized
Linda Stein was a big deal.
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- Linda Stein was the daughter
of a kosher caterer
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from the Bronx,
and she met Seymour Stein
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on a blind date,
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Seymour Stein
who owned Sire Records.
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Sire Records signed Madonna
and Talking Heads,
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and he was one
of the big moguls
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of the rock and roll industry,
and she married him,
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and suddenly she knew
every rock and roll star
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in the business.
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She was only five feet tall,
but when she spoke,
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this big, booming voice
came out of this woman,
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and if she was angry,
that voice,
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you could hear it
down the block,
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and she also had
a vocabulary like a sailor.
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[upbeat dance music]
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- Linda Stein
was a force of nature.
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[laughs]
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We met first in New York
at Studio 54.
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She used to come there,
and I worked there.
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- One night,
she went to see the Ramones
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at CBGB,
and she went to Seymour,
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and she said,
"This is, you know,
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gonna be the biggest thing,"
and they signed,
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and she managed the Ramones.
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She had
two beautiful daughters,
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Samantha and Mandy.
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Can you imagine being
brought up in a household
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where the Ramones are
in and out and so is Madonna
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and all these people
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and your father is this mogul
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who's worth hundreds
of millions of dollars?
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[dramatic music]
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Those two girls,
I'll never forget,
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their bedroom,
they had so much graffiti
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on their bedroom walls.
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You could go there
if you were a Ramone
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or if you were whoever--
you could go there
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and draw
on the girls' bedroom walls,
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and that's how they grew up,
you know,
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in a bedroom full of graffiti
from superstars.
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- I spoke with Mandy Stein,
the eldest daughter
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of the victim, and she was
extremely emotional.
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She did start off by saying,
"I don't live here.
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"This is my mother's house.
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I'm only staying here
for a week or so."
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She was only gonna stay
to Thanksgiving,
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and then she was gonna
go back to LA,
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where she works
as a TV producer.
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We got our person here
that found the body,
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so she was going to be
our primary suspect.
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We interview her.
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Where were you?
What time did you come home?
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Well, she says she was on her
way to Greenpoint, Brooklyn,
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to meet with friends.
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Mandy did call for her mom
in the afternoon.
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- She called her mother,
wanting to tell her mother
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that she wasn't
gonna come home.
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- Natavia picked up the phone.
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She went on to describe
that Natavia's a personal aide
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that her mother had hired
a few months back.
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Natavia told her
Linda was out running
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or she wasn't available
at that moment.
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- She didn't get to speak
to her at all.
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[elevator bell dings]
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Mandy comes home
around 10:30,
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goes up the elevator.
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- The front elevator
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opens up
right to the vestibule,
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and there's a door there.
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- She noticed
that the door is locked.
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- Ms. Stein,
she never locks it.
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Mandy found this to be strange.
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She started going through
the drawer
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of, like, a desk
that's in the vestibule
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'cause she knew her mother
always kept a spare key.
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She opened up the door.
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- She went up to the bedroom,
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didn't find her mother there.
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And she finally went
to the living room,
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and that's when she saw
her mother on the floor.
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- As it turns out,
tracking all this stuff down,
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Mandy was where she was.
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She did come home
when she said she came home.
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So Mandy was cleared
as a suspect fairly quickly.
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- But Mandy does give
detectives another lead.
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Linda moved
in a high-stakes world
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with big money on the line.
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- We learned that Linda Stein
was a real estate agent
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and she did a lot of sales
to prominent people--
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singers, stars.
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- In the late 1970s,
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Linda and Seymour's marriage
ended in an amicable divorce.
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After her divorce,
Linda parlayed
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her rock star connections
and reinvented herself
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as a realtor to the stars.
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- In selling real estate,
Linda became
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very, very well known
in a lot of different
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social circles in the city.
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She marketed herself
as the broker to the stars.
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It's amazing when you think
of who she sold apartments to.
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Steven Spielberg,
Bruce Willis,
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Billy Joel, Bette Midler.
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It just goes on and on and on.
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- 24 hours
after Linda's death,
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the medical examiner
reports back on the autopsy.
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- It was determined
that Linda
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received
around ten blows to the head.
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She had a broken spine,
and her neck was fractured.
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She also received lacerations
to the face and ear.
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- The medical examiner's
report also reveals
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that, due to rigor setting in,
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Linda died sometime
during the day.
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And it's
an all-out media frenzy
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wanting to know
who murdered Linda Stein.
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- Being that it was
a high-profile case,
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pressure was
very, very, very tough.
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- I'm going to get
a cup of coffee,
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and I got reporters
chasing me up the street.
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People have an enormous
appetite for news.
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It becomes a circus.
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- Coming up...
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- We're talking
multimillion-dollar deals,
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so we're talking about
a lot of money.
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- She asked me,
"What would you think
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if someone
was stealing from me?"
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[dramatic music]
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- It's been less than 24 hours
since Linda Stein,
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real estate mogul
to the stars,
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was discovered facedown
in her penthouse apartment.
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Her death has just
been classified a homicide,
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with New York City's press
and famous faces
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putting extra pressure
on the NYPD to find the killer.
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Detectives start
at the beginning.
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- It's always
a good starting point
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to talk to the last person
that you know
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that was with the victim.
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- And the last person
to see Linda Stein alive
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is Linda's
personal assistant Natavia.
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- Natavia was the first person
to see her in the morning
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and the last person
to see Linda.
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- Natavia Lowery,
she was early to mid-20s,
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and she's been working
directly with Ms. Stein
258
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for probably two months.
259
00:12:17,203 --> 00:12:20,273
- Natavia was
a very friendly girl,
260
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very talkative.
261
00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:23,810
- I asked Natavia
to just, like--
262
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hey, can you just
trace your day back?
263
00:12:25,645 --> 00:12:28,948
* *
264
00:12:28,982 --> 00:12:30,483
- Natavia told us
that she walked
265
00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:33,453
to and from the office
and Linda's apartment.
266
00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:38,758
She told us that Linda
had some hand issues,
267
00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:41,628
that she wasn't able
to always button something
268
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or zip something up.
269
00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:47,100
If Linda had to get ready
or get dressed,
270
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she would help her
button her clothes,
271
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curl her hair,
help her put on her makeup.
272
00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:55,709
- Natavia said she wasn't
there all that long.
273
00:12:55,742 --> 00:12:57,310
She just had
to make up her hair.
274
00:12:57,344 --> 00:12:58,978
* *
275
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Linda was gonna leave
the apartment
276
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and do her daily routine
of exercise.
277
00:13:03,883 --> 00:13:06,453
So Natavia goes back
to the office.
278
00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:08,955
* *
279
00:13:09,055 --> 00:13:11,791
- Natavia had gone
to the apartment again
280
00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:15,495
to check on Mrs. Stein
and give her some comps
281
00:13:15,528 --> 00:13:17,964
from the real estate office.
282
00:13:18,064 --> 00:13:20,166
- Natavia said
Linda wasn't there.
283
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,167
* *
284
00:13:21,201 --> 00:13:23,870
So she left an envelope
with the doorman.
285
00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:27,540
* *
286
00:13:27,574 --> 00:13:29,743
- Natavia tells detectives
of a business meeting
287
00:13:29,776 --> 00:13:31,344
Linda had scheduled
for that night
288
00:13:31,378 --> 00:13:33,413
as well as a social plan
she was trying to make.
289
00:13:33,446 --> 00:13:36,182
* *
290
00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:39,085
- The date October 30th
is my birthday,
291
00:13:39,119 --> 00:13:41,888
so, you know,
we were gonna have a drink.
292
00:13:41,921 --> 00:13:43,323
* *
293
00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:46,659
I called her around 1:00
in the afternoon.
294
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[line trills]
295
00:13:49,095 --> 00:13:51,131
Natavia,
who was her assistant,
296
00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:55,101
answered the phone,
and she said no,
297
00:13:55,101 --> 00:13:57,170
she was out walking
in the park.
298
00:13:57,203 --> 00:13:59,506
I said,
"Okay, have Linda call me,
299
00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:00,573
you know, a little later."
300
00:14:00,607 --> 00:14:03,576
* *
301
00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:06,079
- Natavia makes one more
round trip to the office
302
00:14:06,112 --> 00:14:07,814
and returns
to Linda's apartment
303
00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:10,316
around 5:00 p.m.
with more paperwork.
304
00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:12,118
* *
305
00:14:12,152 --> 00:14:14,187
- The door was locked.
306
00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:16,356
And she said, you know,
that was kind of odd.
307
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:19,959
So she left the items,
like, on the table outside
308
00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:22,729
and went home after 5:00.
309
00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,431
* *
310
00:14:24,464 --> 00:14:27,167
- Natavia's helped police
fill in some of the timeline.
311
00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,402
They believe Linda
was alive in the morning
312
00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:31,471
but aren't sure
about the afternoon.
313
00:14:31,504 --> 00:14:33,973
- I don't hear anything
from Linda.
314
00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:36,376
The next morning,
I got a call around 8:00,
315
00:14:36,409 --> 00:14:40,613
8:30 in the morning
from Linda's two daughters.
316
00:14:40,647 --> 00:14:43,316
Mandy said to me,
317
00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:44,851
"Mommy's dead."
318
00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,287
I'm like, "What?"
319
00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,089
* *
320
00:14:49,089 --> 00:14:51,891
And I could hear Samantha
crying in the background.
321
00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,626
* *
322
00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:55,929
- Richard Johnson, who was
the editor of "Page Six,"
323
00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:57,931
called me and said,
324
00:14:57,964 --> 00:14:59,632
"I've got really bad news
for you.
325
00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:02,602
You know, Linda Stein is dead."
326
00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:04,771
I couldn't believe it.
327
00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:06,940
And then when
he said murdered...
328
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,242
what--I--
[sighs]
329
00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:12,645
It's just too fantastic,
too impossible.
330
00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:14,647
My poor Linda.
331
00:15:14,681 --> 00:15:21,855
* *
332
00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:26,493
- Having a clear picture
of Linda's last day,
333
00:15:26,526 --> 00:15:28,395
detectives move on
to interview her colleagues
334
00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:31,264
at the office,
and they're surprised to learn
335
00:15:31,297 --> 00:15:34,300
Linda did not make friends
everywhere she went.
336
00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:38,138
- Linda had a lot of pull
at Douglas Elliman.
337
00:15:38,171 --> 00:15:41,341
She was their only
independent realtor.
338
00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:44,144
She would take 70%
of the profit.
339
00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:48,248
We're talking
multimillion-dollar deals,
340
00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:50,250
so we're talking about
a lot of money.
341
00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:54,454
- With all that money
at stake, detectives wonder
342
00:15:54,487 --> 00:15:57,524
if any of Linda's coworkers
could have been jealous,
343
00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:59,893
mistreated, or vengeful.
344
00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:02,495
* *
345
00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:04,330
Detectives learn of a man
who worked
346
00:16:04,364 --> 00:16:06,666
and was romantically involved
with Linda
347
00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:08,668
when things ended badly.
348
00:16:08,702 --> 00:16:12,205
- He was a man from
the real estate agency.
349
00:16:12,238 --> 00:16:14,641
I think she was trying
to get him fired,
350
00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:17,510
and everybody, you know, said,
"This must be the guy."
351
00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:22,115
- Raul Garcia, his name came up
through a number of people.
352
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,950
Longtime associate
353
00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:26,553
and Linda Stein's
old boyfriend.
354
00:16:26,586 --> 00:16:29,255
He goes, "Two years earlier,
she wanted me to drop
355
00:16:29,289 --> 00:16:31,725
"everything I'm doing
right then and there
356
00:16:31,758 --> 00:16:36,062
for the sake of pushing up
a closing on an apartment."
357
00:16:36,062 --> 00:16:38,298
He said, "No,
I'm already involved
358
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:40,066
with things I'm doing today,
so I can't do it."
359
00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,634
I'll do it tomorrow.
360
00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,536
Next thing you know,
he finds out he's out of a job.
361
00:16:45,138 --> 00:16:46,740
He realizes, like,
"Wow, I can see
362
00:16:46,773 --> 00:16:48,875
where I could be a suspect."
363
00:16:49,476 --> 00:16:51,077
But this was,
like, a year earlier
364
00:16:51,077 --> 00:16:52,078
or two years earlier.
365
00:16:52,078 --> 00:16:54,214
It wasn't like it
just happened two weeks ago.
366
00:16:54,247 --> 00:16:56,383
- But detectives
find no evidence
367
00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:58,885
to tie Raul Garcia
to the scene of the crime,
368
00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:01,187
and his alibi checks out.
369
00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:03,690
But then, just as detectives
are about to start
370
00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:05,025
a new round of interviews,
371
00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:09,496
the manager of Linda's building
reveals a game-changing lead.
372
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:11,097
* *
373
00:17:11,131 --> 00:17:13,566
- Ed McQuaid had already
been a friend of mine
374
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,403
probably close to 20 years
at that point,
375
00:17:16,436 --> 00:17:20,273
and Ed--very quiet,
laid-back guy--
376
00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:23,476
says, "I just put a video
system in the building."
377
00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:28,648
* *
378
00:17:28,682 --> 00:17:30,917
- I had just installed
this new system
379
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:32,619
about six weeks earlier.
380
00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:35,221
All the recordings
were crystal clear.
381
00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:37,390
Could make out the features
382
00:17:37,424 --> 00:17:39,659
on everybody coming
and going in the building.
383
00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:42,562
- A small team of detectives
take shifts
384
00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:44,798
combing through the footage
from the day of the murder,
385
00:17:44,831 --> 00:17:46,933
when there were
construction workers working
386
00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:48,368
throughout the building.
387
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,237
- We were renovating
the lobby at the time,
388
00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:53,506
but we also had
some waterproofing going on
389
00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:55,308
up in the roof.
390
00:17:55,342 --> 00:17:58,945
Probably 15 to 20 people
working up there
391
00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:00,880
on any given day.
392
00:18:01,815 --> 00:18:05,685
- Are we missing something?
If we are, what are we missing?
393
00:18:05,719 --> 00:18:10,323
- Normally, we would shut down
jobs in the building at 4:00,
394
00:18:10,357 --> 00:18:14,694
and a couple of days
before she was murdered,
395
00:18:14,728 --> 00:18:17,163
I had given
the tile man permission
396
00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:20,166
to stay back
a couple of hours.
397
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,805
Linda came in, and it was
probably around 5:30, 6:00.
398
00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,207
The guy was still there.
399
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,843
He was still working,
and she was very annoyed
400
00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:33,613
that the construction worker
was still working after 4:00.
401
00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:39,052
- Linda could get very angry
over small things.
402
00:18:39,085 --> 00:18:41,354
- Just a year earlier,
there was a homicide
403
00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:43,723
in downtown Manhattan
where a victim was killed
404
00:18:43,757 --> 00:18:46,192
in her building
by a construction worker.
405
00:18:46,226 --> 00:18:48,595
Could Linda have met
the same fate?
406
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,864
* *
407
00:18:50,897 --> 00:18:53,133
- Linda didn't like
the noise going on,
408
00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:55,869
and there was all kinds
of equipment
409
00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:59,806
and tarps laid out, and she
started cursing at them.
410
00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:02,008
- Could one of the workers
have had enough
411
00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:04,077
of Linda's temper and snapped?
412
00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:05,879
* *
413
00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:07,580
- That's gonna raise a flag.
414
00:19:07,614 --> 00:19:10,116
- We realized
that there was some motive.
415
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,185
It's what we call a clue.
416
00:19:12,218 --> 00:19:13,353
- Coming up...
417
00:19:13,386 --> 00:19:17,691
- I just felt like that video
was going to have a tell.
418
00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:20,126
- "I don't know
what had happened.
419
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,828
I woke up,
and she was on the ground."
420
00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:33,806
[dramatic music]
421
00:19:34,073 --> 00:19:39,778
* *
422
00:19:39,812 --> 00:19:41,780
- Digging into the murder
of Linda Stein,
423
00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:44,516
realtor
to New York City's elite,
424
00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:47,419
our guys looked deeper into
how her combative personality
425
00:19:47,453 --> 00:19:49,054
may have clashed
with construction workers
426
00:19:49,088 --> 00:19:51,557
in the building.
427
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:53,425
But could her
confrontational behavior
428
00:19:53,459 --> 00:19:55,728
have led to her murder?
429
00:19:55,761 --> 00:19:58,497
- Linda didn't like the noise
going on up above
430
00:19:58,530 --> 00:20:01,333
and the people
trashing through the steps.
431
00:20:01,367 --> 00:20:04,236
She didn't want them
coming by the vestibule,
432
00:20:04,269 --> 00:20:06,405
running down the steps
with equipment.
433
00:20:06,438 --> 00:20:08,240
She felt it was an annoyance,
434
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:10,075
and she started cursing
at them.
435
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:14,913
* *
436
00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:16,882
- Detectives quickly begin
tracking down
437
00:20:16,915 --> 00:20:18,584
all the workers
in the building that day.
438
00:20:18,617 --> 00:20:20,786
- Through the course
of the next couple days,
439
00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:24,423
through probably 10 to 15
different detectives,
440
00:20:24,456 --> 00:20:27,292
we've probably interviewed
30 construction workers,
441
00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:28,627
maybe 40.
442
00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:30,229
* *
443
00:20:30,262 --> 00:20:32,664
We're running rap sheets.
444
00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:34,767
Some of them had minor arrests
in the past.
445
00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:38,237
They all were interviewed.
446
00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:40,873
It didn't appear that any
of the construction workers
447
00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:45,644
that day accessed
the 18th floor for any reason.
448
00:20:45,678 --> 00:20:46,512
* *
449
00:20:46,545 --> 00:20:49,848
Nothing that's gonna raise
a flag.
450
00:20:49,882 --> 00:20:51,784
They're ruled out completely.
451
00:20:51,817 --> 00:20:55,821
* *
452
00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:57,456
- Three days
after Linda's murder,
453
00:20:57,489 --> 00:20:59,792
as detectives continue
to pursue leads,
454
00:20:59,825 --> 00:21:01,460
Linda Stein is remembered
by loved ones
455
00:21:01,493 --> 00:21:03,629
and New York City's
high society
456
00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:06,432
at a memorial service
to celebrate her life.
457
00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,934
- Linda's funeral
was at Riverside.
458
00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:12,471
There were crowds in front
of the funeral parlor
459
00:21:12,504 --> 00:21:13,972
and photographers.
460
00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,974
* *
461
00:21:16,075 --> 00:21:18,911
- I went to Linda's memorial.
462
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,846
It was a very heart-wrenching
experience.
463
00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:23,615
Amazing turnout of people.
464
00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:27,152
I mean, you know, it was full.
465
00:21:27,186 --> 00:21:29,488
* *
466
00:21:29,521 --> 00:21:32,424
- We were shoulder to shoulder
with each other.
467
00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:35,761
Everybody in
the whole funeral parlor
468
00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,629
had a Linda Stein story.
469
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:41,834
- I remember one time, we were
driving out to the Hamptons...
470
00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:47,206
Because she had a chance
to show a property,
471
00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:50,342
and so while we were speeding
out to the Hamptons,
472
00:21:50,376 --> 00:21:52,511
she's getting dressed
in the car,
473
00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:54,847
doing her hair,
you know, putting on a dress.
474
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,315
I mean, like,
completely getting dressed
475
00:21:56,348 --> 00:21:59,184
in the car while we're driving.
476
00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:01,053
So I was, you know, driving,
477
00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:03,555
praying that we wouldn't
be stopped by the police.
478
00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:07,259
That was the kind of life
it was.
479
00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:09,428
If you had
a high-money client
480
00:22:09,461 --> 00:22:11,063
and they wanted
to see something,
481
00:22:11,063 --> 00:22:12,331
you made it happen.
482
00:22:12,364 --> 00:22:13,699
That's what she did.
483
00:22:13,732 --> 00:22:16,635
I mean, that's what
she was known for.
484
00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:20,072
- She had cancer.
485
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,908
She had two mastectomies
on the same breast.
486
00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:26,078
There were a lot
of close calls to find out
487
00:22:26,078 --> 00:22:27,613
if her cancer was back.
488
00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:33,218
And so she came out here
to the Hamptons
489
00:22:33,252 --> 00:22:35,821
in the winter,
and she would walk
490
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:38,557
for hours and hours
by herself on the beach
491
00:22:38,590 --> 00:22:40,359
like she was walking off
the cancer.
492
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,564
Through her having cancer,
she raised millions of dollars
493
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:47,533
for Memorial Sloan Kettering.
494
00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:51,670
She got Elton John to perform
at their great benefits.
495
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,572
She worked very, very hard
496
00:22:53,605 --> 00:22:56,442
in money for cancer research.
497
00:22:56,475 --> 00:23:00,379
- At the funeral,
her daughters got up and spoke.
498
00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:02,815
It was great
because there was smiles
499
00:23:02,848 --> 00:23:07,219
amongst all the tears because
of the way she was eulogized.
500
00:23:07,252 --> 00:23:09,421
* *
501
00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:11,924
- It was just enormously sad.
502
00:23:11,957 --> 00:23:14,793
* *
503
00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:18,564
As it went by,
I kissed her coffin.
504
00:23:18,597 --> 00:23:23,068
I wanted her to take my kiss
to the other side.
505
00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:27,072
* *
506
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:28,407
- The newsworthy funeral
507
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,775
and stories
of Linda's generosity
508
00:23:29,808 --> 00:23:32,077
amped up the need
to solve the case,
509
00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:35,414
with all of New York
and beyond wanting justice.
510
00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:37,850
- It's a headline case.
511
00:23:37,883 --> 00:23:41,086
Homicides happen every day
in New York City.
512
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:45,524
Cases like this tend to just
become a complete vacuum
513
00:23:45,557 --> 00:23:47,326
and suck up all the attention.
514
00:23:48,527 --> 00:23:49,895
- Honestly, it starts
with the mayor.
515
00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:51,630
He gets the calls.
516
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:52,731
What do you think
he's gonna do?
517
00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:53,732
He's gonna call
the commissioner.
518
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:54,900
What's the commissioner do?
519
00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:55,901
He's gonna call
the chief of detectives.
520
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:57,803
And what's the chief
of detectives gonna do?
521
00:23:57,836 --> 00:24:00,039
He's gonna call the Manhattan
chief of detectives.
522
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,408
So sh-- rolls downhill
in a police department
523
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,810
pretty much like anywhere else.
524
00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:07,146
- We felt the glaring light
of public pressure,
525
00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:10,049
but that just motivates us
at the NYPD.
526
00:24:10,049 --> 00:24:11,150
[indistinct
police radio chatter]
527
00:24:11,183 --> 00:24:13,052
In the week
after Linda's murder,
528
00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:14,620
detectives review
the surveillance footage
529
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,823
from that day over and over.
530
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:23,429
- I go through that video to
see if we spotted anything...
531
00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:25,964
Anything suspicious,
532
00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:27,933
any strangers coming
in and out of the building...
533
00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:32,771
Anything that
didn't look right
534
00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:34,840
to see, did we miss something?
535
00:24:34,873 --> 00:24:39,845
- The only people that show up
are the roofers, Natavia.
536
00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:42,414
Matter of fact,
Linda Stein doesn't show up
537
00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:44,149
on any of the tapes.
538
00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:45,851
We were told
that she went out running.
539
00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:48,587
You start figuring out, like,
where is Linda leaving?
540
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:49,855
Where is Linda coming?
541
00:24:49,888 --> 00:24:52,091
She never left.
She never came back.
542
00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:54,860
* *
543
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:58,764
- No one had seen
Linda Stein at all.
544
00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:02,167
No one heard of Linda Stein
after Natavia left.
545
00:25:02,901 --> 00:25:05,871
So that made it
more interesting now.
546
00:25:05,904 --> 00:25:09,742
- With confirmation that Linda
never left the apartment,
547
00:25:09,775 --> 00:25:11,744
there's a new focus
on the surveillance.
548
00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:14,747
- I went through
the footage myself,
549
00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:17,216
and I kept rewatching it.
550
00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:21,053
I just felt like that video
was going to have a tell,
551
00:25:21,086 --> 00:25:25,724
and until I found out
what that tell was,
552
00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:28,494
I kept looking at it
over and over again.
553
00:25:29,762 --> 00:25:32,564
- I give all the kudos
in the world
554
00:25:32,598 --> 00:25:35,501
to Detective Loffredo.
555
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:39,071
- There's probably some point
where I should have given up,
556
00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,072
but I didn't.
557
00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:41,774
I kept watching it
over and over again.
558
00:25:42,808 --> 00:25:45,744
- She's like, "Holy crap.
559
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:48,480
Look at this.
This could be huge."
560
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:01,928
[dramatic music]
561
00:26:02,195 --> 00:26:08,702
* *
562
00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:11,037
- Detective Loffredo
has been doggedly reviewing
563
00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:13,206
surveillance footage
from Linda's apartment building
564
00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,608
to search for any suspects
arriving or leaving
565
00:26:15,642 --> 00:26:16,910
the day of Linda's murder.
566
00:26:18,712 --> 00:26:20,113
A week after Linda's death
567
00:26:20,146 --> 00:26:21,748
and countless hours
of viewing,
568
00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:23,116
she may have caught something.
569
00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:27,887
* *
570
00:26:27,921 --> 00:26:30,123
- When I interviewed
Natavia Lowery
571
00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:33,493
and asked her about
the events of that day
572
00:26:33,526 --> 00:26:34,961
and how she got
back and forth,
573
00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:37,364
she specifically told me
that she walked
574
00:26:37,397 --> 00:26:41,267
to and from the office that day
several times.
575
00:26:41,301 --> 00:26:43,436
* *
576
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:46,272
And I said, "Oh, you walked
back and forth several times?"
577
00:26:46,306 --> 00:26:47,941
And she's like, "Yeah."
578
00:26:47,974 --> 00:26:49,976
She did not explain that she
went anywhere else that day.
579
00:26:50,076 --> 00:26:52,278
Just to and from
Linda's apartment.
580
00:26:52,312 --> 00:26:57,684
* *
581
00:26:57,717 --> 00:27:00,153
One of the times
I was watching the video,
582
00:27:00,186 --> 00:27:02,756
I saw Natavia Lowery
walk in the building,
583
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:06,292
and this time, I noticed
that she had money in her hand.
584
00:27:06,326 --> 00:27:08,795
* *
585
00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:10,530
And I thought to myself,
586
00:27:10,563 --> 00:27:12,232
"Why would she have money
in her hands?"
587
00:27:12,265 --> 00:27:15,268
* *
588
00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:17,704
And then it dawned on me
that maybe she got dropped off
589
00:27:17,737 --> 00:27:20,907
by a taxicab,
and when I looked back
590
00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:23,476
at the video
and I kept watching it,
591
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:28,515
I noticed that the doorman
at some point had walked out
592
00:27:28,548 --> 00:27:30,316
like he saw something coming
593
00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:32,752
and then walked back in
with Natavia...
594
00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:35,822
Which made me realize
595
00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:37,691
that there was
a taxicab out front
596
00:27:37,724 --> 00:27:38,725
that had just dropped her off.
597
00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:41,327
* *
598
00:27:41,361 --> 00:27:44,731
And when the door swings open,
in the reflection,
599
00:27:44,764 --> 00:27:48,068
you could see the taxicab
600
00:27:48,101 --> 00:27:50,270
pull up and drop her off.
601
00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:55,241
Not at any point did she say,
"I took a taxi."
602
00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:59,713
- So now we know Natavia
is lying about only walking.
603
00:27:59,746 --> 00:28:02,048
Detective Loffredo
revisits Natavia's story
604
00:28:02,082 --> 00:28:04,551
to see what else
doesn't add up.
605
00:28:04,584 --> 00:28:08,855
- Natavia told us that Linda
could not grasp things tightly.
606
00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:10,623
She needed help and assistance
607
00:28:10,657 --> 00:28:12,892
when grabbing things
that were small
608
00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:15,528
or needed to be squeezed,
like a curling iron.
609
00:28:15,562 --> 00:28:17,764
* *
610
00:28:17,797 --> 00:28:19,866
Linda had a business meeting
that night
611
00:28:19,899 --> 00:28:21,368
with some real estate guys
612
00:28:21,401 --> 00:28:24,537
that had a business venture
with her.
613
00:28:24,571 --> 00:28:29,042
This was a really big meeting
for Linda, she said.
614
00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:31,378
At some point, Linda said
she was gonna go for a walk.
615
00:28:31,411 --> 00:28:36,383
She went by herself,
and she never came back,
616
00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:38,785
so Natavia went home.
617
00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:40,387
* *
618
00:28:40,420 --> 00:28:44,924
Everything sounded normal
with her story.
619
00:28:44,958 --> 00:28:47,394
The only thing
that did catch my attention
620
00:28:47,427 --> 00:28:51,064
was the fact that she had
just finished describing
621
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:54,401
that Linda would need her
to get ready
622
00:28:54,434 --> 00:28:58,071
and she left
without helping her get ready,
623
00:28:58,104 --> 00:29:01,174
and when I asked her
who was gonna help Linda
624
00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:03,410
get ready that night
for her business meeting,
625
00:29:03,443 --> 00:29:04,911
she said, "I don't know."
626
00:29:06,012 --> 00:29:09,015
And I found that
to be suspicious.
627
00:29:09,015 --> 00:29:12,385
Why wouldn't they make
prior arrangements,
628
00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:15,422
and why would she think that,
on that particular day,
629
00:29:15,455 --> 00:29:17,190
she would go home on time
630
00:29:17,223 --> 00:29:19,125
and not wait for Linda
to come home?
631
00:29:19,159 --> 00:29:20,694
* *
632
00:29:20,727 --> 00:29:23,430
Why weren't you concerned
that she didn't come back?
633
00:29:23,463 --> 00:29:25,131
* *
634
00:29:25,165 --> 00:29:28,201
This time, it dawned on me
that something was different.
635
00:29:28,234 --> 00:29:31,171
* *
636
00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:34,908
I told Detective Walla
and Detective Rivera
637
00:29:34,941 --> 00:29:36,910
that I think that this
was a really important
638
00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:39,412
piece of the picture.
639
00:29:39,446 --> 00:29:41,314
- Further scrutiny
of the footage
640
00:29:41,348 --> 00:29:44,417
reveals another
unsettling detail.
641
00:29:44,451 --> 00:29:47,821
- There was nobody else
that went upstairs
642
00:29:47,854 --> 00:29:51,324
to the apartment,
only Natavia.
643
00:29:51,358 --> 00:29:55,061
- I specifically focused
on the lobby of the video,
644
00:29:55,095 --> 00:29:58,198
and Linda did not come
in and out of the building.
645
00:29:58,231 --> 00:30:00,934
* *
646
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:03,136
- Detectives Walla
and Rivera's next call
647
00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:05,238
is to talk with Natavia again.
648
00:30:05,271 --> 00:30:12,212
* *
649
00:30:13,947 --> 00:30:15,482
- So we get
to the Seventh Precinct,
650
00:30:15,515 --> 00:30:16,983
and that's where
we set her down,
651
00:30:17,017 --> 00:30:19,486
and Tony and I
both started to talk to her
652
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,622
about everything that happened
again that day,
653
00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:24,657
and she agreed to talk.
654
00:30:24,691 --> 00:30:30,163
* *
655
00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:33,466
- Natavia stated
that she didn't know
656
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:36,503
what happened to Linda,
and we proceeded
657
00:30:36,536 --> 00:30:38,505
just to talk to her
a little bit more.
658
00:30:38,538 --> 00:30:40,373
* *
659
00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:43,943
- She stuck to the same story,
and I said,
660
00:30:43,977 --> 00:30:47,847
"Well, Natavia, you have a lot
of inconsistencies."
661
00:30:47,881 --> 00:30:49,049
* *
662
00:30:49,082 --> 00:30:51,851
- So she kind of
looked surprised.
663
00:30:51,885 --> 00:30:53,520
She was getting
a little nervous.
664
00:30:53,553 --> 00:30:58,091
* *
665
00:30:58,124 --> 00:31:00,860
And then finally, we said,
you know,
666
00:31:00,894 --> 00:31:03,363
"We don't believe your story.
667
00:31:03,396 --> 00:31:05,765
You have to tell us
what really happened."
668
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:12,439
* *
669
00:31:12,472 --> 00:31:13,440
- Coming up...
670
00:31:13,473 --> 00:31:16,843
- She says that a male
wearing all black
671
00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:19,245
enters the apartment.
672
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:21,915
- "I know where you live.
I know who your family is."
673
00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:25,251
- She heard the male
hitting Linda.
674
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:38,098
[dramatic music]
675
00:31:38,298 --> 00:31:45,205
* *
676
00:31:45,238 --> 00:31:47,474
- Detectives Walla and Rivera
have brought
677
00:31:47,507 --> 00:31:49,843
Linda Stein's
personal assistant Natavia
678
00:31:49,876 --> 00:31:51,344
in for another interview,
679
00:31:51,378 --> 00:31:53,913
since she was the last person
to see Linda alive.
680
00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:59,686
* *
681
00:31:59,719 --> 00:32:01,054
- I went in by myself.
682
00:32:01,054 --> 00:32:03,289
* *
683
00:32:03,323 --> 00:32:04,891
I said, "There's something
that we know
684
00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:05,792
that we never shared with you."
685
00:32:05,825 --> 00:32:08,461
* *
686
00:32:08,495 --> 00:32:12,399
"That you keep telling me
and Detective Loffredo
687
00:32:12,432 --> 00:32:14,067
that you walked
wherever you went."
688
00:32:14,067 --> 00:32:15,835
* *
689
00:32:15,869 --> 00:32:17,570
"You're seen on video..."
690
00:32:17,604 --> 00:32:19,572
* *
691
00:32:19,606 --> 00:32:23,076
"Getting out of a cab
with money in your hand
692
00:32:23,076 --> 00:32:27,080
"in front of 965 5th Avenue
693
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,782
on the date of Linda's death."
694
00:32:28,815 --> 00:32:31,584
* *
695
00:32:31,618 --> 00:32:32,585
"Where did you go?"
696
00:32:32,619 --> 00:32:34,921
* *
697
00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:37,157
"Oh, sorry,
I didn't tell you.
698
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:39,159
"I was extremely emotional.
699
00:32:39,192 --> 00:32:41,828
Linda was trying
my last patience that day."
700
00:32:41,861 --> 00:32:43,797
[horn honks]
701
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:45,098
"I took a drive in a cab."
702
00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:48,735
* *
703
00:32:48,768 --> 00:32:49,869
"Yeah, I cleared my head.
704
00:32:49,903 --> 00:32:51,004
"I went to go call my mother,
705
00:32:51,104 --> 00:32:51,938
but my mother was no help."
706
00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:54,274
* *
707
00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:55,608
"I just didn't go anywhere."
708
00:32:55,642 --> 00:32:57,210
* *
709
00:32:57,243 --> 00:32:59,412
I told her,
"You're full of it."
710
00:32:59,446 --> 00:33:04,617
* *
711
00:33:04,651 --> 00:33:07,620
And then she started getting
really emotional,
712
00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:09,789
almost tearing.
713
00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:10,857
I grab her hand.
714
00:33:10,890 --> 00:33:12,359
I'm, like, holding her hand,
715
00:33:12,392 --> 00:33:13,526
shaking it
a little bit like this.
716
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,496
I says, "Natavia,
what did you do?"
717
00:33:17,263 --> 00:33:19,065
"Did you do something to Linda
that day?"
718
00:33:19,099 --> 00:33:20,633
* *
719
00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,470
And she came in
with some blackout story.
720
00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:24,904
* *
721
00:33:24,938 --> 00:33:27,640
She says, "It happened
in college once.
722
00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:29,109
"I choked my roommate,
723
00:33:29,142 --> 00:33:31,244
"and I didn't even know
I did it.
724
00:33:31,277 --> 00:33:33,079
"I don't know
what had happened.
725
00:33:33,113 --> 00:33:36,616
I woke up, and then
she was on the ground."
726
00:33:36,649 --> 00:33:39,386
And then something snapped
in her head,
727
00:33:39,419 --> 00:33:41,654
and she's like, "I don't know
why I told you that."
728
00:33:41,688 --> 00:33:44,357
* *
729
00:33:44,391 --> 00:33:46,092
"That's not what happened."
730
00:33:47,193 --> 00:33:48,561
"I didn't do that.
I didn't kill Linda."
731
00:33:48,595 --> 00:33:51,664
* *
732
00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:53,099
I said, "We're gonna take
a little break,
733
00:33:53,099 --> 00:33:54,167
"and you think about everything
734
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,269
that's going on here."
735
00:33:56,302 --> 00:33:58,104
I go back out, talk to Tony.
736
00:34:00,273 --> 00:34:01,441
We started leaning towards,
737
00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:02,509
this girl's
not going home tonight.
738
00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:05,679
* *
739
00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,281
- We went back
into the interview room
740
00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:11,418
and proceeded just to talk
to her a little bit more
741
00:34:11,451 --> 00:34:15,155
about family, friends,
who does she know.
742
00:34:15,188 --> 00:34:17,057
* *
743
00:34:17,057 --> 00:34:19,959
And she felt a little bit
more comfortable.
744
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:23,530
And at that point,
745
00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:26,533
I asked her,
"What really happened?"
746
00:34:26,566 --> 00:34:29,536
And she looked at me,
and she said
747
00:34:29,569 --> 00:34:31,938
she received a phone call
from an unknown male
748
00:34:31,971 --> 00:34:33,707
on her phone.
749
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,076
[phone buzzing]
750
00:34:37,610 --> 00:34:39,379
- Somebody called her
on her phone and said,
751
00:34:39,412 --> 00:34:42,716
"Open up the door.
Leave the door open.
752
00:34:42,749 --> 00:34:45,418
I know where you live.
I know who your family is."
753
00:34:45,452 --> 00:34:48,588
And basically threatening her.
754
00:34:48,621 --> 00:34:50,690
* *
755
00:34:50,724 --> 00:34:54,661
- Natavia says
that she left the door open.
756
00:34:54,694 --> 00:34:57,130
[door clicks open]
757
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,733
She says that a male
758
00:34:59,766 --> 00:35:01,368
wearing all black...
759
00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:04,704
Enters the apartment.
760
00:35:05,405 --> 00:35:08,608
She heard the male
hitting Linda.
761
00:35:08,641 --> 00:35:11,878
* *
762
00:35:11,911 --> 00:35:14,514
She says that the male
told her,
763
00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:17,584
"Take the bag
and put a stapler
764
00:35:17,617 --> 00:35:19,753
"and other office supplies
in the bag
765
00:35:19,786 --> 00:35:22,122
and leave the building."
766
00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:24,457
The male said,
"You're the only one
767
00:35:24,491 --> 00:35:27,761
that's gonna see Linda last,"
768
00:35:27,794 --> 00:35:29,662
and to leave.
769
00:35:29,696 --> 00:35:31,164
[elevator bell dings]
770
00:35:31,197 --> 00:35:33,733
And she leaves the building.
771
00:35:33,767 --> 00:35:41,074
* *
772
00:35:41,741 --> 00:35:44,711
Knowing that we had
surveillance camera,
773
00:35:44,744 --> 00:35:47,113
knowing that
Detective Loffredo
774
00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:51,785
looked at it so many times
and made several observations
775
00:35:51,818 --> 00:35:55,455
of no one entering
the elevator--
776
00:35:55,488 --> 00:35:57,357
it was only Natavia
and no one else,
777
00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,726
no one wearing black,
no one leaving...
778
00:35:59,759 --> 00:36:02,328
* *
779
00:36:02,362 --> 00:36:06,366
We believed that Natavia
made the story up,
780
00:36:06,399 --> 00:36:08,768
but she was getting closer
to the real story.
781
00:36:08,802 --> 00:36:10,403
* *
782
00:36:10,437 --> 00:36:14,207
- So now we went
from "I blacked out"
783
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:19,279
to "a ninja dressed in all
black came up and did this."
784
00:36:19,312 --> 00:36:21,081
* *
785
00:36:21,114 --> 00:36:22,582
Here's two times now
she's telling us
786
00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:27,053
that she's standing
in Linda's apartment
787
00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:28,188
and Linda's dead.
788
00:36:28,221 --> 00:36:31,291
* *
789
00:36:31,324 --> 00:36:33,827
Regardless
of how she got dead,
790
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:35,428
Linda's dead,
791
00:36:35,462 --> 00:36:38,064
and Natavia's standing
over that body.
792
00:36:38,098 --> 00:36:40,834
So we go back in
a third time.
793
00:36:40,867 --> 00:36:44,771
- And said to her, "Natavia,
this is not making any sense.
794
00:36:44,804 --> 00:36:49,075
"You know, we know
that you're the only one
795
00:36:49,075 --> 00:36:51,678
that was in that apartment,
that there was no male."
796
00:36:51,711 --> 00:36:53,980
* *
797
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,517
- We tell her, say,
"Listen, no ninja came up.
798
00:36:57,550 --> 00:36:58,852
"It didn't happen that way.
799
00:36:58,885 --> 00:37:00,754
You got to tell us what
the hell's going on here."
800
00:37:00,787 --> 00:37:03,223
* *
801
00:37:03,256 --> 00:37:04,424
"What pushed you to the point
802
00:37:04,457 --> 00:37:06,860
that you needed
to kill Ms. Stein?"
803
00:37:06,893 --> 00:37:10,030
* *
804
00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:11,364
"How did she wind up like that?
805
00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:13,767
How did she wind up with those
wounds on the top of her head?"
806
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,502
* *
807
00:37:15,535 --> 00:37:20,140
- Natavia started
to kind of cry a little bit,
808
00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:21,875
and she said
she didn't mean it...
809
00:37:21,908 --> 00:37:24,477
* *
810
00:37:24,511 --> 00:37:27,847
And that Linda Stein
had got her upset...
811
00:37:27,881 --> 00:37:29,649
* *
812
00:37:29,683 --> 00:37:30,850
And she couldn't take it.
813
00:37:30,884 --> 00:37:33,753
* *
814
00:37:33,787 --> 00:37:37,257
Linda was badgering
and screaming at her,
815
00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:39,893
and she just freaked out
816
00:37:39,926 --> 00:37:41,127
and struck her with an object.
817
00:37:41,161 --> 00:37:43,430
* *
818
00:37:43,463 --> 00:37:45,365
She said it was a yoga stick.
819
00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:48,068
- "How many times
did you hit her?"
820
00:37:48,101 --> 00:37:49,369
"A lot.
I don't know."
821
00:37:49,402 --> 00:37:51,204
* *
822
00:37:51,237 --> 00:37:52,706
"I wasn't counting.
A lot."
823
00:37:52,739 --> 00:37:55,175
* *
824
00:37:55,208 --> 00:37:56,876
"She just went down."
825
00:37:56,910 --> 00:38:00,280
* *
826
00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:01,715
I says,
"What did you do next?"
827
00:38:01,748 --> 00:38:04,017
And she says
she left the building.
828
00:38:04,584 --> 00:38:07,654
- We felt that we got her
to a point
829
00:38:07,687 --> 00:38:10,056
where she's telling us
some of the truth.
830
00:38:10,090 --> 00:38:12,926
* *
831
00:38:13,026 --> 00:38:15,862
- I think we all knew
there was more to it.
832
00:38:15,895 --> 00:38:17,530
* *
833
00:38:17,564 --> 00:38:19,199
We took her possessions
from her,
834
00:38:19,232 --> 00:38:22,335
informing her
that she's now in custody
835
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:24,404
and you're not
going home tonight.
836
00:38:24,437 --> 00:38:26,873
- We didn't have
the full story.
837
00:38:26,906 --> 00:38:29,776
We didn't know why
she struck Linda.
838
00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:41,887
[dramatic music]
839
00:38:42,154 --> 00:38:47,059
* *
840
00:38:47,059 --> 00:38:48,660
- Natavia is in custody
841
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,062
the day following
her admission
842
00:38:50,062 --> 00:38:52,498
to beating her boss
Linda Stein to death.
843
00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:54,433
Detectives work
with the DA's office
844
00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:56,669
to get her confession on tape.
845
00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:58,837
That's when Natavia
throws in a twist.
846
00:38:58,871 --> 00:39:02,675
She claims Linda provoked her
for no reason.
847
00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:28,067
* *
848
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,204
- I found it very shocking
that she was capable
849
00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:33,672
of murder
850
00:39:33,706 --> 00:39:36,075
and that she could sit across
851
00:39:36,108 --> 00:39:39,111
from detectives and attorneys
852
00:39:39,144 --> 00:39:42,548
and she wasn't scared or upset.
853
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:45,951
On the other hand,
I guess that's what it takes
854
00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:50,289
to be able to kill someone
is being able to do it
855
00:39:50,322 --> 00:39:53,125
and being cold afterwards.
856
00:39:53,158 --> 00:39:54,893
* *
857
00:39:54,927 --> 00:39:56,562
- But detectives
believe Natavia
858
00:39:56,595 --> 00:39:57,863
isn't telling them
the real reason
859
00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,465
she killed Linda
860
00:39:59,498 --> 00:40:00,799
and, in the following days,
861
00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:02,534
turn up the investigation
on motive.
862
00:40:02,568 --> 00:40:04,570
* *
863
00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:07,473
- The night before Linda
was murdered,
864
00:40:07,506 --> 00:40:09,775
I was in Linda's apartment.
865
00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:11,343
She asked me,
"What would you think
866
00:40:11,377 --> 00:40:13,612
if someone was
stealing from me?"
867
00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:17,950
And I was like,
"That would be terrible."
868
00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:19,518
She goes, "Well,
what do you think I should do?"
869
00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:22,154
And I said, "Well,
I think whoever it is,
870
00:40:22,187 --> 00:40:24,623
you should confront them."
871
00:40:24,656 --> 00:40:27,493
And then I kind of left,
872
00:40:27,526 --> 00:40:29,361
and I never saw her again.
873
00:40:29,395 --> 00:40:33,766
* *
874
00:40:33,799 --> 00:40:35,801
- Detectives pull
all recent phone records
875
00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:38,971
with her credit card companies
and find their answer.
876
00:40:39,004 --> 00:40:39,938
* *
877
00:40:39,972 --> 00:40:42,608
- We heard Natavia
on the phone saying
878
00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:46,645
that she was Linda Stein
requesting a credit card.
879
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,848
- She was using
Linda's credit cards.
880
00:40:49,882 --> 00:40:50,883
* *
881
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:54,586
She had opened credit cards
in Linda's name
882
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:56,355
and was charging
on those credit cards,
883
00:40:56,388 --> 00:41:01,126
so it looked like
grand larceny was her motive.
884
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,463
* *
885
00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:05,764
- We think Linda went down
886
00:41:05,798 --> 00:41:07,066
and got
the American Express bill
887
00:41:07,066 --> 00:41:09,368
and confronted Natavia
when she showed up
888
00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:10,736
for work that day.
889
00:41:12,871 --> 00:41:15,974
- I believe that Linda Stein
was gonna call the police
890
00:41:16,075 --> 00:41:16,942
and make a complaint,
891
00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:19,678
but Natavia didn't want that
to happen,
892
00:41:19,712 --> 00:41:22,781
and she just freaked out
and murdered Linda.
893
00:41:53,112 --> 00:41:55,014
- Detectives can see
the taxi number
894
00:41:55,114 --> 00:41:57,383
in the reflection
and track its destination
895
00:41:57,416 --> 00:41:59,918
to a nearby clothing store.
896
00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:02,488
- Why would she take a cab
to a store?
897
00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:04,623
When we looked
at the video surveillance,
898
00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:07,659
she had her cargo pants
inside out,
899
00:42:07,693 --> 00:42:09,728
maybe 'cause
there was blood on it.
900
00:42:10,396 --> 00:42:13,532
We interviewed the clerk
at the store.
901
00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:15,734
As it turns out,
she went to try
902
00:42:15,768 --> 00:42:17,369
and replace those pants.
903
00:42:17,403 --> 00:42:19,571
* *
904
00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:21,940
And that was the taxi ride.
905
00:42:21,974 --> 00:42:25,310
* *
906
00:42:25,344 --> 00:42:26,812
- With Natavia's confession
907
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,480
along with all
the other evidence,
908
00:42:28,514 --> 00:42:30,082
the case is tried
before a jury
909
00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:32,785
nearly three years
after Linda Stein's murder.
910
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,588
Natavia Lowery is found guilty
of second-degree murder
911
00:42:36,622 --> 00:42:37,790
and grand larceny.
912
00:42:37,823 --> 00:42:40,626
She is sentenced
to 25 years to life.
913
00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:42,294
* *
914
00:42:42,327 --> 00:42:44,396
- It was a grueling case,
915
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:48,701
but the New York City
NYPD detectives--
916
00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:51,637
we've been doing it
since the 1840s--
917
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:53,272
they come through.
918
00:42:54,106 --> 00:42:56,141
- The case
was very high-profile
919
00:42:56,175 --> 00:42:59,478
because of what Linda did
and who she knew.
920
00:43:00,312 --> 00:43:03,048
Like any other case,
it's important to solve it
921
00:43:03,048 --> 00:43:06,618
to bring it to justice
and have closure to the family
922
00:43:06,652 --> 00:43:09,054
and everyone else.
923
00:43:09,054 --> 00:43:11,290
* *
924
00:43:11,323 --> 00:43:15,728
- Linda Stein is
an intrinsic part of the city,
925
00:43:15,761 --> 00:43:18,163
somebody who was with it
and who knew everybody
926
00:43:18,197 --> 00:43:20,699
and lived in a penthouse
on 5th Avenue
927
00:43:20,733 --> 00:43:22,735
and had a marvelous
sense of humor.
928
00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:26,572
You know, she was
an enchanting character to me,
929
00:43:26,605 --> 00:43:29,174
and I was so pleased
and so lucky
930
00:43:29,208 --> 00:43:30,976
to know Linda.
931
00:43:31,076 --> 00:43:34,146
She lives on in everybody
who she touched,
932
00:43:34,179 --> 00:43:37,649
and the best legacy
I think you can have
933
00:43:37,683 --> 00:43:39,351
is that people miss you.
934
00:43:39,385 --> 00:43:46,191
* *