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{\an8}<i>[birds and insects chirping]</i>

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<i>The story how we heard it was</i>
<i>that Mark fell off a waterfall or Mark…</i>

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<i>It was kind of strange.</i>

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<i>[Dave] Mark being so fit and so agile,</i>

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<i>that he would accidentally slip,</i>
<i>hit his head, and go over these falls,</i>

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<i>this always seemed, kind of, a little off.</i>

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{\an8}<i>I've never spoken to Bhagavan since then.</i>

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<i>I've always wanted to,</i>

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<i>but I never had the opportunity.</i>

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<i>I, first of all, would like</i>
<i>to ask him what happened.</i>

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<i>None of us know</i>
<i>what really happened that day.</i>

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<i>I always loved that Buddhist saying,</i>

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<i>"There are three things</i>
<i>that cannot long stay hidden."</i>

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<i>"The sun, the moon, and the truth."</i>

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<i>[mysterious music plays]</i>

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<i>[Dave] Something that's never</i>
<i>been reconciled in my mind,</i>

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{\an8}<i>is the fact that he was the number two guy</i>
<i>at this Buckingham Zoo.</i>

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<i>So here obviously is Bhagavan,</i>

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<i>doing his levitation thing,</i>
<i>and then right here, that's Mark.</i>

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<i>And Bhagavan couldn't even</i>
<i>come out here to the funeral.</i>

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<i>Why?</i>

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<i>Why?</i>

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{\an8}<i>I mean that makes no sense at all.</i>

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{\an8}<i>[Dave] Take a day and come out here</i>

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{\an8}<i>and be with us.</i>

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<i>You were with him for the last five years.</i>

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<i>Why wouldn't you even come out</i>
<i>and make an appearance?</i>

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<i>[Dave] That's never been reconciled</i>
<i>in my mind.</i>

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<i>And it always amazed me</i>
<i>that this letter from Mark,</i>

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<i>it says, "Don't trust Bhagavan."</i>

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<i>[music crescendos]</i>

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<i>[footsteps]</i>

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<i>[birds and insects chirping]</i>

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<i>[cryptic instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[David] And this is the study</i>
<i>where I keep the secret archives.</i>

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<i>So, this is where I have some more videos.</i>

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<i>This one's got mold on it. [laughs]</i>

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<i>So, this could actually have something.</i>

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<i>[mechanical hum]</i>

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<i>[David] I remember we set up</i>
<i>a hidden camera in my living room.</i>

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<i>We thought it would've</i>
<i>been fun to videotape Mark.</i>

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<i>We'll ask him some questions</i>
<i>and see what he says.</i>

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<i>Since he didn't know about it,</i>
<i>we thought he'd be more himself</i>

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<i>and just reveal all.</i>

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<i>We will be shooting the Mealworm,</i>
<i>he should be arriving in about 20 minutes.</i>

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<i>Bhagavan called him Mealworm, that…</i>

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<i>[chuckles] …was his nickname.</i>

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<i>May the Mealworm live happily ever after.</i>

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<i>May I never hear "Mealworm" again!</i>

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<i>[men laughing]</i>

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<i>He was a really nice guy and really jolly.</i>

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<i>A happy person, really liked Bhagavan.</i>

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<i>And I think came here for a better life.</i>

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<i>I was jailbound, boy, I was…</i>

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<i>I was getting ready for prison.</i>
<i>There was no doubt.</i>

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<i>They were gonna nab me any day.</i>

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<i>[moody guitar music plays]</i>

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<i>[Dave] Back in the late '70s, </i>

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<i>Mark and Bhagavan</i>
<i>were in the marijuana business.</i>

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<i>Bhagavan was, like, the biggest</i>
<i>pot dealer in the area at the time.</i>

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<i>I mean, he told me stories</i>
<i>where they had like</i>

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<i>a room full of bags of weed</i>
<i>and rooms full of money.</i>

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<i>[Mark] Dude, I was living</i>
<i>in a three-bedroom house,</i>

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<i>with a pool and a Jacuzzi,</i>

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<i>and having steak and lobster</i>
<i>six or seven days out of the week</i>

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<i>and just partying my ass--</i>

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<i>Thousands of dollars in cash,</i>
<i>right there in my hand, you know?</i>

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<i>[Dave] Mark was actually going out</i>
<i>in the middle of the night to meet planes</i>

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<i>that would swoop down</i>
<i>in the abandoned airfields out there</i>

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<i>and drop out the bales of marijuana.</i>

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<i>[Mark] Of course,</i>
<i>I had an amazing collection of reefer.</i>

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<i>Like 25 different types of weed</i>
<i>that I would, you know--</i>

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<i>Big buds like this long</i>
<i>that weighed like a half ounce.</i>

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<i>Because I'd buy pounds of it, you know,</i>

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<i>and I'd just find the best-looking stuff</i>
<i>and seal it up, you know? [laughs]</i>

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<i>[Dave] One time, we met up</i>
<i>at Bhagavan's house.</i>

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<i>And when I met him,</i>
<i>Mark said, "This is Bhagavan."</i>

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<i>You know, "If you're not comfortable</i>
<i>with that you can just call him Kevin."</i>

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<i>That's where I first</i>
<i>got to see one of his tigers.</i>

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<i>You could just see</i>
<i>these huge-ass teeth and like,</i>

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<i>"Oh, my God."</i>
<i>He said, "Just chill, he's okay."</i>

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<i>[tiger growling]</i>

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<i>[Betsy] It was always dangerous.</i>

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<i>I always had a gun.</i>

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<i>He was always afraid someone</i>
<i>would come after me to get to him.</i>

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<i>Because he was at the top,</i>
<i>somebody wanted to knock him down.</i>

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<i>[Betsy] Somebody broke in</i>
<i>while I was at the store,</i>

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<i>so, of course, we had to pack</i>
<i>everything up and move.</i>

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<i>[Betsy] Bhagavan decided</i>
<i>we had to go to Virginia.</i>

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<i>And, you know, back then,</i>

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<i>I still did everything he said,</i>
<i>I had no mind of my own.</i>

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<i>[Dave] Things got kind of weird.</i>
<i>I got a phone call from Mark</i>

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<i>in the middle of the night,</i>
<i>and he was so paranoid, so… [grunts]</i>

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<i>I said, "What's the matter?"</i>
<i>He goes, "I need to get out of town."</i>

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<i>[Dave] "People are getting popped.</i>
<i>I need you to help me pack up."</i>

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<i>We got to the storage facility.</i>
<i>He had a huge trash bag.</i>

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<i>Probably eight, ten pounds of weed,</i>

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<i>and he said, "Just take it,</i>
<i>get whatever you can for it."</i>

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<i>"Send me some money."</i>

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<i>He went his way, I went my way.</i>

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<i>And I don't know how much time passed,</i>
<i>but he called me up,</i>

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<i>and he said,</i>
<i>"I'm fine, I'm in Virginia right now."</i>

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<i>"Do you remember Bhagavan-- Kevin Antle?</i>
<i>He's putting me up out here."</i>

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<i>"I just need to lay low."</i>

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<i>"I'm working at a zoo,</i>
<i>Buckingham Zoological Park."</i>

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<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

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<i>[Dave] I said, "Oh, that sounds cool."</i>

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<i>He goes, "Yeah, I can tell you more</i>
<i>about it later, I can't talk right now."</i>

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<i>"Okay."</i>

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<i>So, from then on, he was working</i>
<i>down there at the zoo close to Yogaville.</i>

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<i>[mysterious instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[Ruth Vargas] Yogaville saved my life.</i>

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<i>I left home very young.</i>

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<i>So I was on my own</i>
<i>and an emancipated teenager from 16.</i>

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<i>[Ruth] The New York City modeling scene</i>
<i>was full of drugs and debauchery.</i>

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<i>A couple of the models I worked with died,</i>
<i>so, I decided I wanted the spiritual life.</i>

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<i>I told my friends and family.</i>
<i>They were very upset.</i>

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<i>"What are you doing?</i>
<i>That's crazy, they're a cult."</i>

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<i>That's the first word they said,</i>
<i>everyone said that.</i>

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<i>And I said, "Fine, but I don't really want</i>
<i>that New York City fast-paced insanity."</i>

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<i>[Ruth] I started working a little bit</i>
<i>at Buckingham Zoological Park with Mark.</i>

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<i>He was a very nice guy.</i>
<i>He had that whole lumberjack thing.</i>

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<i>[Dave] Part of Mark's transformation</i>

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<i>was to follow the teachings</i>
<i>of this Swami Sachidananda.</i>

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<i>…to know yourself.</i>

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<i>[Dave] His name was changed to Mitra.</i>
<i>M-I-T-R-A.</i>

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<i>Thank you very much.</i>

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<i>[Mark] By the way, I'm Mitra. Hi!</i>

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<i>[man laughing]</i>

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<i>Okay. That's me. Hi!</i>

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<i>[Mark] To anybody who will</i>
<i>talk to my folks, I'm Mark. [laughs] </i>

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<i>But if they ever do find out,</i>
<i>it's a stage name.</i>

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<i>[Mark] They would not grasp</i>
<i>this guru thing.</i>

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<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

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<i>Mitra was this really attractive guy</i>

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<i>and he had this loving personality</i>
<i>about him, he was very gregarious.</i>

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<i>[Steven] Had this big smile,</i>
<i>was always laughing and joking,</i>

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<i>and he was kind of the fun at the zoo.</i>

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<i>You would fall in love with</i>
<i>that kind of a character very easily,</i>

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<i>because he was so likable, you know,</i>

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<i>and it was a stark contrast</i>
<i>between him and Bhagavan.</i>

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<i>[birds chirping]</i>

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<i>[presenter] </i>He's one of the most
unusual people you'll ever meet.

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<i>He makes his living training wild animals</i>
<i>for movies and television commercials.</i>

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<i>If there were ever</i>
<i>a real life Beast Master, this guy is it.</i>

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<i>Pearlies. Pearlies!</i>

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<i>[adventurous instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[lions growling]</i>

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<i>[Becky] "Dear Becky,</i>

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<i>could this really be a letter</i>
<i>from 'The Wild Man of Virginia?'"</i>

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<i>"Does he even have</i>
<i>all his body parts still attached?"</i>

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<i>"Well, I'm happy</i>
<i>to say yes to the above questions."</i>

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<i>"We've been busy filming</i>
<i>for a television series we are making."</i>

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<i>"I ride a zebra in an open field</i>
<i>for the episode titled 'Wild Horses.'"</i>

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{\an8}<i>"It will take months, maybe years</i>
<i>to finish the first 28 episodes."</i>

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<i>"Did you like the picture?"</i>

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<i>"Nothing like taking a Jacuzzi</i>
<i>with a couple of kitties."</i>

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<i>"Love, Mark."</i>

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<i>[Becky] He loved those animals.</i>

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<i>He was really passionate about it.</i>

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<i>You know,</i>
<i>here's this guy that trains tigers,</i>

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<i>and works with animals and it was…</i>

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<i>I mean, it was really cool.</i>

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<i>[presenter] </i>This guy works for a popular
oil company that sports the slogan,

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<i>"Put a tiger in your tank."</i>

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<i>Bubbles played a baby</i>
<i>for the McDonald's corporation.</i>

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<i>Yum, yum.</i>

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<i>Kevin Antle. Bhagavan. Doc.</i>

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<i>Uh, I've known him for 30 years.</i>

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<i>Met him in Buckingham, Virginia,</i>

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<i>when he was trying to be a tiger guy</i>

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<i>and I was doing animals</i>
<i>in films and commercials.</i>

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<i>[Karl] He had a commercial job</i>
<i>and he needed extra hands</i>

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<i>and Mark Topping, who's there</i>
<i>with me, he was a good trainer,</i>

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<i>he was Bhagavan's number one guy.</i>

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<i>He also was eager to learn.</i>
<i>I showed him a few things.</i>

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<i>[Ruth] Karl was pretty good</i>
<i>with his animals,</i>

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<i>in terms of training them.</i>
<i>Definitely better than Bhagavan.</i>

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<i>[Karl] Bhagavan did not value</i>
<i>experience or knowledge.</i>

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<i>He just was so sure of his way,</i>
<i>his technique.</i>

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<i>What do I know, I'm just,</i>
<i>you know, the Black guy from Compton.</i>

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<i>I don't know nothing.</i>

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<i>Okay.</i>

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<i>[muffled yelling]</i>

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<i>[Karl] Doc Antle</i>
<i>is just a spoiled rich kid.</i>

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<i>[bear growls]</i>

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<i>[Doc] I came from</i>
<i>a highly successful family.</i>

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<i>I could have had far more money</i>
<i>than I'm ever going to make</i>

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<i>off of hanging out</i>
<i>with my beloved animals.</i>

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<i>[Betsy] He grew up in a wealthy family.</i>

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<i>They were the ones that grew all</i>
<i>the lettuce in the entire United States.</i>

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{\an8}<i>[guitar music plays]</i>

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{\an8}<i>[Radha] Bhagavan had a trust fund</i>
<i>that was supporting him very comfortably.</i>

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<i>And then I believe he just,</i>
<i>kind of stumbled into realizing</i>

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<i>that the animals could be lucrative.</i>

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<i>[presenter] </i>At the ripe old age of 21,
he received his PhD in zoology

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<i>from the British College</i>
<i>of Natural Science.</i>

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<i>All of the time, people say they think</i>
<i>they're going to meet Dr. Antle, PhD.</i>

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<i>They meet me</i>
<i>and they are taken aback, they say,</i>

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<i>"A hippie doctor. How did-- Who is this?"</i>

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<i>That happens a lot.</i>

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<i>[Radha] To my knowledge,</i>
<i>he's not a doctor.</i>

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<i>When he was in China, he paid somebody</i>
<i>to write "doctor" on some certificate.</i>

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<i>And, frankly, I would never</i>
<i>let him stick a needle in me. [laughs]</i>

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<i>He was never an actual doctor.</i>

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<i>He wanted to be one,</i>
<i>but he didn't have patience for school.</i>

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<i>So he just says he is.</i>

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<i>I'm a doctor, right, on one side.</i>
<i>I'm "Doc" because I'm an MD.</i>

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<i>And so I got a whole-- I've gone through</i>
<i>and done a lot of autopsies,</i>

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<i>I've been through a lot of bodies,</i>
<i>seen a lot of sickness.</i>

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<i>One of the challenges with Bhagavan Antle</i>
<i>is that he doesn't tell the truth often.</i>

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<i>And so it's very hard</i>
<i>to separate the fact from fiction.</i>

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<i>[Steven] Everything that I know</i>
<i>about Bhagavan's past came from Mitra,</i>

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<i>because Mitra was the only one</i>
<i>that would talk to me about it.</i>

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<i>No one else would discuss Bhagavan</i>
<i>in any sort of way.</i>

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<i>It was through him that I began to learn</i>
<i>about Bhagavan's nefarious past,</i>

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<i>that Bhagavan</i>
<i>was involved in some deals which</i>

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<i>weren't aboveboard, shall we say.</i>

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<i>[rattling, hissing]</i>

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<i>[Karl] I really do know of</i>
<i>some factual, real shit</i>

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<i>that happened with him over the years.</i>

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<i>There was a period of time in the '80s</i>
<i>when Bhagavan and I traveled to Venezuela</i>

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<i>on a commercial</i>
<i>for South American television.</i>

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<i>[Karl] And it became apparent</i>
<i>that there was a bonus bumper crop</i>

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<i>of cocaine available.</i>

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<i>And I'm like, why do we care</i>
<i>about an abundance of cocaine?</i>

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<i>He was like, "We can get a truckload</i>
<i>sent to Florida, to my friend Mario."</i>

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<i>[Karl] I was like, "I don't know Mario,</i>
<i>don't wanna know Mario."</i>

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<i>"This is not what I signed up for."</i>

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<i>"I'm not about to be involved</i>
<i>in drug smuggling."</i>

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<i>[Karl] But he saw how good my tiger was,</i>
<i>that it would do all kinds of tricks.</i>

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<i>You know, be a nice tiger.</i>

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<i>And so he said, "Come on down to Virginia.</i>
<i>You can stay in my house."</i>

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<i>"We've got a lot</i>
<i>of work in New York, but…"</i>

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<i>"You got to eat vegetables</i>
<i>and, you know, you're gonna…"</i>

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<i>And my attitude was like, "Dude, I'm going</i>
<i>to Wendy's and getting a cheeseburger."</i>

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<i>-[Karl speaks indistinctly]</i>
<i>-[tiger growls]</i>

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<i>[Mark] Not eat meat?</i>

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<i>You've gotta be fucking crazy.</i>
<i>I will not stop eating meat.</i>

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<i>And then, all of a sudden,</i>
<i>boom, I'm not eating meat.</i>

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<i>[Sumati] Mitra wanted to learn</i>
<i>to train animals.</i>

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<i>I don't think he realized how hard</i>
<i>Bhagavan is on his employees and interns.</i>

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<i>I kind of felt a little bit bad because</i>
<i>I was, like, the traveling mistress,</i>

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<i>which meant that, often times,</i>
<i>Mitra would be driving the car</i>

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<i>and Bhagavan and I</i>
<i>would be having sex in the back,</i>

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<i>which couldn't have</i>
<i>been comfortable for him at all. [laughs]</i>

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<i>It was incredibly awkward for me</i>
<i>because I was a pretty modest person,</i>

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<i>and kind of shy,</i>
<i>and so it was very awkward.</i>

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<i>[Sumati] But Mitra was very sweet</i>
<i>and super funny.</i>

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<i>I adored him,</i>
<i>I thought he was really cool.</i>

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<i>Mitra always had an interesting</i>
<i>relationship with Bhagavan, where…</i>

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<i>it wasn't quite as…</i>
<i>Lord Bhagavan, over Mitra.</i>

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<i>There was a--</i>
<i>It was a little bit closer together</i>

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<i>than any of the other relationships</i>
<i>that I've seen with interns.</i>

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<i>[Dave] In this letter, "I'm number two."</i>

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<i>"Assistant director</i>
<i>and manager of this establishment."</i>

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<i>"Bhagavan has offered a new condition</i>
<i>of my contract in the future."</i>

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<i>"Owning and receiving</i>
<i>one to two and a half percent interest</i>

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<i>for the next 10 years."</i>

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<i>"Could add up to big bucks</i>
<i>or could all fall apart tomorrow."</i>

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<i>"That's the gamble, you take, right?"</i>
<i>Yeah.</i>

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<i>Go way down the hill, Mitra.</i>

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<i>-[Doc speaks indistinctly]</i>
<i>-[tiger growling]</i>

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<i>Put the chain on her, Mitra.</i>
<i>Put a chain on the cat.</i>

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<i>She's ruined for the day,</i>
<i>and getting ruined for life.</i>

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<i>When you would come into the fold</i>

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<i>Bhagavan would go about</i>
<i>a process of breaking your spirit.</i>

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<i>He's going to tear you down</i>
<i>to the lowest level he can get you,</i>

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<i>and then you're going to be reborn.</i>

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<i>[fireworks whistling]</i>

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<i>[Steven] When I got the job in Korea,</i>
<i>Bhagavan made this big deal about my hair.</i>

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<i>I had very thin, horrible hair.</i>

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<i>I had this horrible mullet</i>
<i>that I apologize for in advance,</i>

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<i>but it was the thing back then.</i>

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<i>He showed up in Korea and said,</i>
<i>"We're gonna get you hair extensions."</i>

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<i>So he found this Korean lady to come in,</i>
<i>and I swear to you it was almost hot glue,</i>

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<i>and she was taking these long</i>
<i>hair extensions and she was gluing them,</i>

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<i>and while she was gluing them</i>
<i>into my head, she was burning my scalp.</i>

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<i>And I was going, "Ow!" [laughs]</i>

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<i>And the next thing you knew,</i>

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<i>I had this big, bushy mane</i>
<i>that looked horrible.</i>

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<i>On stage, when I was dancing around</i>
<i>and doing my thing,</i>

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<i>and I would sweat and heat up,</i>
<i>my head would get hot,</i>

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<i>it would melt the extensions</i>
<i>and I would spin my hair</i>

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<i>and you'd see this long</i>
<i>strand of hair fly out to the audience.</i>

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<i>I would sit in my dressing room</i>

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<i>and I would cry, and cry.</i>

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<i>[somber melodic music plays]</i>

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<i>[Radha] There was a certain aspect</i>
<i>to the relationship</i>

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<i>between Bhagavan and the apprentices,</i>
<i>where Bhagavan was very domineering.</i>

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<i>When I said, "Drop it,"</i>
<i>that's what matters.</i>

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<i>[Doc] It doesn't matter what you think,</i>
<i>it matters what I think is happening.</i>

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<i>I was always worried about Mark</i>
<i>because he abused him so badly.</i>

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<i>Yeah, Mark was the nicest man</i>
<i>I've pretty much ever met.</i>

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<i>He never complained about anything.</i>

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<i>He did exactly what he needed to do,</i>
<i>and he was always kind.</i>

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<i>[Radha] Mark was really,</i>
<i>kind of funny and charming.</i>

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<i>Although I feel that he…</i>

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<i>wasn't really allowed to be that way,</i>

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<i>either around me or around Bhagavan.</i>

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<i>Well, when I first got there, you know,</i>

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<i>they were definitely</i>
<i>treating me like a human being.</i>

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<i>But, eventually,</i>
<i>I was living in this little cubicle.</i>

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<i>I remember talking to him</i>
<i>one night about his trailer.</i>

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<i>He said, "It's so cold in there."</i>

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<i>[Dave] Mark had a hybrid wolf</i>
<i>named Nimbus Ned.</i>

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<i>And Nimbus Ned slept with him at night,</i>
<i>and that's what kept him warm.</i>

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<i>[Ruth] It was atrocious conditions.</i>

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<i>Bhagavan convinced them all</i>
<i>that all they needed was rice and beans.</i>

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<i>[Ruth] Mitra was hungry all the time,</i>

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<i>but he worked so hard.</i>

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<i>He worked seven days a week,</i>
<i>365 days for as many years as I was there.</i>

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<i>He would have to work very long hours.</i>
<i>He'd talk about that.</i>

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<i>After a while, I just realized</i>
<i>that, you know, wild animal training</i>

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<i>really isn't what I wanna do all my life.</i>

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<i>Mark was trying to get out,</i>

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<i>probably because he wanted</i>
<i>to get away from that grasp.</i>

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<i>He wanted some reality,</i>
<i>he wanted some freedom.</i>

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<i>[Mark] This is to the new future.</i>

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<i>To the future, yes.</i>

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<i>-My new future. [laughs]</i>
<i>-Your new future, right.</i>

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<i>Can I make it to Arizona…</i>

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<i>[Mark laughs]</i>

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<i>…safely, with very few problems.</i>

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<i>[men chuckling]</i>

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<i>[Becky] "Dear Becky,</i>
<i>well, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year."</i>

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<i>"I didn't have to write that</i>
<i>because I'll be in town,</i>

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<i>Phoenix/Scottsdale,</i>
<i>for a few days before Christmas."</i>

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<i>"I leave Christmas Day for a magic show</i>
<i>in Reno for the 26th until January 1st."</i>

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<i>"Then I fly back to Virginia."</i>

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<i>And that was…</i>

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<i>the last time that I saw him.</i>

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<i>[eerie instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[Karl] Doc Antle said,</i>
<i>"I got a magic show for you."</i>

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<i>"I'm gonna send Mitra, and you're</i>
<i>gonna go to Reno to do this show."</i>

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<i>[Karl] And Mark was telling me</i>
<i>how he wanted to get out,</i>

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<i>that he was distrustful of Bhagavan.</i>

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<i>He told me Bhagavan owed him money</i>
<i>and it came from the dope deal.</i>

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<i>But… he was owed money.</i>

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<i>At this point,</i>
<i>I didn't want to be involved,</i>

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<i>'cause it's not my scene.</i>

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<i>[Karl] It struck me as odd</i>
<i>that five months later,</i>

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<i>Mark Topping slips and falls</i>
<i>on a waterfall and dies.</i>

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<i>[somber instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[Karl] I heard for years</i>
<i>that Bhagavan was responsible</i>

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<i>for Mark Topping losing his life.</i>

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<i>[Betsy] A lot of people thought</i>
<i>that Bhagavan</i>

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<i>had something to do with Mark dying.</i>

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<i>Everybody thought that.</i>

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<i>[interviewer]</i>
<i>Why would he have wanted to kill Mark?</i>

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<i>For the same reason</i>
<i>he hates that I'm out here.</i>

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<i>'Cause he knew his secrets.</i>

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<i>[cryptic instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[Steven] In my mind,</i>

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<i>it goes back to the money</i>
<i>that was owed to Mitra.</i>

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<i>[insects chirping]</i>

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<i>[Steven] One time I caught Bhagavan</i>
<i>late at night</i>

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<i>outside working on a tiger trailer,</i>

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<i>which was very unusual</i>
<i>and I was curious what was going on,</i>

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<i>so I went out there,</i>
<i>and he didn't hear me come out.</i>

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<i>As I walked up to him, he was by himself,</i>
<i>and he was ripping open this big brick,</i>

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<i>this giant brick</i>
<i>of plastic trash bags and duct tape,</i>

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<i>and when he ripped it open,</i>

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<i>it was filled with cash.</i>

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<i>[Steven] He grabbed a screwdriver</i>
<i>and he grabbed me by the throat,</i>

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<i>and he shoved me up against the building,</i>
<i>he stuck that screwdriver up in my throat,</i>

371
00:20:26,768 --> 00:20:31,606
<i>and he told me,</i>
<i>"If you ever mention this again,</i>

372
00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:33,608
<i>you'll never see another sunrise."</i>

373
00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:41,116
<i>[Steven] Bhagavan owed Mitra</i>
<i>tens of thousands of dollars,</i>

374
00:20:41,199 --> 00:20:45,245
<i>and Mitra was very angry</i>
<i>that he had not been paid this money.</i>

375
00:20:46,037 --> 00:20:48,081
<i>It was a very strained relationship.</i>

376
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,834
<i>[Betsy] I know that he left for a while.</i>

377
00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,753
<i>When I saw that Mark</i>
<i>was back again I was like,</i>

378
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:56,298
<i>"Oh no, you got away.</i>
<i>Why did you come back?"</i>

379
00:20:56,381 --> 00:20:58,591
<i>He just went like this, you know?</i>

380
00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:00,510
<i>[elephant snorting, grunting]</i>

381
00:21:01,052 --> 00:21:04,264
<i>[Becky] The animals were</i>
<i>a really cool part of his life,</i>

382
00:21:04,347 --> 00:21:08,810
<i>but he was trying to make it more a part</i>
<i>of his life, where he could have a life.</i>

383
00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:13,148
<i>And I think that's what</i>
<i>he was doing here on his last visit.</i>

384
00:21:13,231 --> 00:21:18,236
<i>He was actively pursuing</i>
<i>employment out here.</i>

385
00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:21,531
<i>And then he was gone</i>
<i>and he never did get to come back.</i>

386
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,451
<i>I remember crying about that,</i>
<i>like, he was gonna come back,</i>

387
00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:27,454
<i>and he never did get to come back.</i>

388
00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:28,621
<i>[grim music plays]</i>

389
00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:32,709
<i>[Sumati] In May of 1989,</i>

390
00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:37,505
<i>Bhagavan was talking to a computer store</i>

391
00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:41,301
<i>where I was working</i>
<i>as the PR and marketing person,</i>

392
00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:46,639
<i>and he had made an arrangement</i>
<i>with the owner to shoot a commercial.</i>

393
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,976
<i>[announcer]</i> On The Com Connecting Point
has tamed the computer jungle,

394
00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:52,395
<i>bringing you a full line</i>
<i>of Apple computers.</i>

395
00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:57,275
<i>[Sumati] I had been avoiding Bhagavan</i>
<i>from the minute I left him.</i>

396
00:21:57,776 --> 00:22:00,653
<i>-And so I avoided the whole commercial.</i>
<i>-[lion roars]</i>

397
00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:05,283
<i>[Sumati] But at the end of the day,</i>
<i>before they all left</i>,

398
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:09,537
<i>Mitra Topping was there</i>
<i>and he asked me out on a date.</i>

399
00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:12,082
<i>And I was happy to go on a date with him,</i>

400
00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:16,294
<i>'cause I thought he was really handsome,</i>
<i>and very sweet, and very cute, and funny,</i>

401
00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:18,713
<i>and I was really looking forward to it.</i>

402
00:22:18,797 --> 00:22:22,967
<i>But before I left the parking lot,</i>
<i>I was in my car</i>

403
00:22:23,051 --> 00:22:27,847
<i>and Bhagavan came to my car</i>
<i>and confronted me.</i>

404
00:22:27,931 --> 00:22:32,018
<i>And he said, "I'm leaving Radha."</i>

405
00:22:32,102 --> 00:22:34,646
<i>"And I want to marry you."</i>

406
00:22:34,729 --> 00:22:38,358
<i>So, he again, for the second time,</i>
<i>asked me if I would marry him.</i>

407
00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:41,653
<i>But nothing had changed,</i>
<i>as far as I could tell,</i>

408
00:22:41,736 --> 00:22:45,740
<i>you know, he was still the same person</i>
<i>that he was when we were together.</i>

409
00:22:45,824 --> 00:22:49,702
<i>So it was-- I said,</i>
<i>"No, thank you. I'm not interested."</i>

410
00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:53,123
<i>And I don't think I would have told him.</i>

411
00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:58,795
<i>But Mitra Topping may have had to tell him</i>
<i>that he was gonna go on a date with me,</i>

412
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:01,756
<i>because he needed permission</i>
<i>to be away from the compound.</i>

413
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:06,678
<i>[Sumati] And… very, very tragically,</i>

414
00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:11,683
<i>in the morning before our date,</i>
<i>he went hiking</i>

415
00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:16,271
<i>at Crabtree Falls and he fell and--</i>

416
00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,064
<i>off of Crabtree Falls and died.</i>

417
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:20,942
<i>The day that we were</i>
<i>supposed to go on a date.</i>

418
00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,152
<i>[birds chirping]</i>

419
00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:23,695
<i>[somber music plays]</i>

420
00:23:23,778 --> 00:23:28,283
<i>[Dave] Normally, in this kind of a case,</i>
<i>you would get notified by the authorities.</i>

421
00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:30,618
<i>I got a call from Bhagavan.</i>

422
00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:34,289
<i>He said, "Your brother's</i>
<i>been in a very terrible accident."</i>

423
00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:36,166
<i>I remember falling,</i>

424
00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:39,419
<i>just falling down to the ground,</i>
<i>sitting there on the ground,</i>

425
00:23:39,502 --> 00:23:41,838
<i>and my wife at the time said,</i>
<i>"What's the matter?"</i>

426
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,382
<i>I said, "Mark is dead."</i>

427
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:48,219
<i>It was Bhagavan, he said, and that he said</i>

428
00:23:48,303 --> 00:23:51,764
<i>"Tell your parents that I was there,</i>
<i>that I was with him."</i>

429
00:23:52,682 --> 00:23:56,019
<i>[Becky] It sounds odd to me</i>
<i>that he was the one</i>

430
00:23:56,895 --> 00:24:00,523
<i>that notified the family</i>
<i>and not the authorities,</i>

431
00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,817
<i>but it was just fishy</i>
<i>the whole way around.</i>

432
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,694
<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

433
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:07,155
<i>[male voice] Always wondered why</i>
<i>he was up there by himself,</i>

434
00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:10,283
<i>because there was nobody</i>
<i>at the top of those falls who came down,</i>

435
00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:12,494
<i>"Hey, that's my friend,"</i>
<i>or anything like that.</i>

436
00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:16,831
<i>It was Memorial weekend of 1989, and…</i>

437
00:24:17,874 --> 00:24:20,084
<i>we were--</i>
<i>me and my wife were both off of work,</i>

438
00:24:20,168 --> 00:24:22,545
<i>so we thought--</i>
<i>we'd heard about Crabtree Falls.</i>

439
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:25,381
<i>We hadn't been in Virginia a year yet.</i>

440
00:24:26,174 --> 00:24:29,260
<i>So we decided to go up there</i>
<i>and have a walk up,</i>

441
00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:31,179
<i>and I was a little nervous going up</i>

442
00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:33,932
<i>because I saw all these signs</i>
<i>about how dangerous it was,</i>

443
00:24:34,015 --> 00:24:37,393
<i>and all of the people that had been killed</i>
<i>by climbing around on rocks.</i>

444
00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:39,020
<i>I was 12 years old at the time.</i>

445
00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:44,859
{\an8}<i>It was a pretty moderate--</i>
<i>pretty moderate to steep hike up there.</i>

446
00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:48,154
<i>It took quite a while,</i>
<i>probably over an hour to hike to the top.</i>

447
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:52,325
<i>[Ty] And this woman walked up to me</i>
<i>and said, "Did you see that boy fall?"</i>

448
00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:54,452
<i>I said "No,"</i>

449
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:57,664
<i>and she said, "Oh, he has to be dead,</i>
<i>he hit awful hard."</i>

450
00:24:57,747 --> 00:25:01,084
<i>My wife, she starts looking out</i>
<i>over the water towards the fall,</i>

451
00:25:01,584 --> 00:25:04,212
<i>and she saw a boot</i>
<i>sticking up behind a rock.</i>

452
00:25:05,338 --> 00:25:07,549
<i>I took the binoculars,</i>
<i>it was definitely a boot,</i>

453
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:10,260
<i>so I ran up the mountainside,</i>

454
00:25:10,969 --> 00:25:12,929
<i>and I got level with the boot.</i>

455
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:16,933
<i>I looked over and I did see</i>
<i>a body behind a rock on the other side.</i>

456
00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:20,979
<i>[Ty] When I got out there</i>
<i>his head was under the water.</i>

457
00:25:21,062 --> 00:25:23,773
<i>I needed to get it up so he could breathe,</i>

458
00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,651
<i>so I put one hand behind his neck,</i>
<i>in case his neck was broke,</i>

459
00:25:26,734 --> 00:25:29,404
<i>then I put my hand</i>
<i>under his head to lift it up,</i>

460
00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:32,907
<i>but that's when I realized</i>
<i>there were no skull back there.</i>

461
00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:37,120
<i>I knew he was dead,</i>
<i>but I just couldn't get myself to leave.</i>

462
00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:41,165
<i>One of the biggest things I remember,</i>
<i>at some point you picked his wallet up,</i>

463
00:25:41,249 --> 00:25:44,586
<i>I could tell he had pictures in there,</i>
<i>and I started leafing through them,</i>

464
00:25:44,669 --> 00:25:49,340
<i>and there was a photo of him</i>
<i>with a tiger in a swimming pool.</i>

465
00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:52,760
<i>[Vanessa] And that always stuck out to me.</i>

466
00:25:54,137 --> 00:25:55,805
<i>[Ty] I felt an attachment to the boy.</i>

467
00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:57,390
<i>I don't know why.</i>

468
00:25:58,099 --> 00:26:00,977
<i>I guess just spending</i>
<i>all that time on the bank,</i>

469
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:03,605
<i>keeping people away from him was…</i>

470
00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:07,400
<i>You develop some</i>
<i>sort of attachment, I guess.</i>

471
00:26:07,483 --> 00:26:10,653
<i>You feel like you're protecting him</i>
<i>even though he's not alive anymore.</i>

472
00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:12,822
<i>[somber instrumental music plays]</i>

473
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:15,950
<i>[Ty] I felt like I was there</i>
<i>all afternoon,</i>

474
00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:18,661
<i>because it took forever</i>
<i>for rescue to get up there.</i>

475
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:19,746
<i>[birds chirping]</i>

476
00:26:19,829 --> 00:26:24,292
<i>And when they did, I stood</i>
<i>around longer, waiting to be questioned.</i>

477
00:26:24,375 --> 00:26:28,171
<i>I says, "I'm the one who found the body,</i>
<i>is there anything you need from me?"</i>

478
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:31,591
<i>"What's your name?"</i>
<i>I think all he took was my name.</i>

479
00:26:31,674 --> 00:26:33,468
<i>I don't even think he took my address.</i>

480
00:26:34,177 --> 00:26:38,473
<i>But no questions</i>
<i>and that's always bothered me because…</i>

481
00:26:41,476 --> 00:26:43,269
<i>How did they know he wasn't pushed?</i>

482
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,649
<i>[Vanessa] There were other hikers</i>
<i>at the top of the falls.</i>

483
00:26:47,732 --> 00:26:50,401
<i>No one else had witnessed this</i>
<i>other than this one woman.</i>

484
00:26:50,485 --> 00:26:52,904
<i>I don't know if she witnessed</i>
<i>the whole thing,</i>

485
00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:57,659
<i>if she caught a glimpse and thought</i>
<i>she saw somebody fall from the top.</i>

486
00:26:57,742 --> 00:27:00,411
<i>-Yeah, there was only that one person.</i>
<i>-Just the one, yeah.</i>

487
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:03,414
<i>She just said,</i>
<i>"Did you see that boy fall?"</i>

488
00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:05,875
<i>[interviewer 1] So the authorities</i>
<i>never questioned you?</i>

489
00:27:06,376 --> 00:27:07,418
<i>No.</i>

490
00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:12,215
<i>In fact, I kept watching local news</i>
<i>about the accident at Crabtree Falls.</i>

491
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:13,466
<i>There was nothing.</i>

492
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:15,343
<i>Been wondering my whole life,</i>

493
00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:17,845
<i>why there wasn't more of an investigation.</i>

494
00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:21,808
<i>[grim instrumental music plays]</i>

495
00:27:21,891 --> 00:27:25,103
<i>[Dave] The last picture of Mark</i>
<i>was taken on the day that he passed away.</i>

496
00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:28,189
<i>He's there, and there's a guy</i>
<i>standing behind him.</i>

497
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:32,985
<i>Paul Lewis told me last year,</i>
<i>before I moved out of Buckingham,</i>

498
00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:36,823
<i>that he was with Mitra</i>
<i>um, the day that he died.</i>

499
00:27:36,906 --> 00:27:40,410
<i>Paul Lewis was a local guy,</i>
<i>a real nice guy.</i>

500
00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,454
<i>Rode motorcycles with him,</i>
<i>and they had rode up there that day.</i>

501
00:27:44,205 --> 00:27:46,791
<i>[beeping]</i>

502
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:51,838
<i>Okay, we have started</i>
<i>this recording for Paul Lewis.</i>

503
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:54,966
<i>[phone ringing]</i>

504
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:58,219
<i>-[male voice] </i>Hey David.
<i>-Hey Paul, how you doing?</i>

505
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,555
<i>-[Paul] </i>Doing good.
<i>-Good, good.</i>

506
00:28:01,055 --> 00:28:05,226
<i>I'm thrilled to be able to talk to you,</i>

507
00:28:05,309 --> 00:28:07,562
<i>because I don't think</i>
<i>we've ever spoken before.</i>

508
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:12,525
{\an8}<i>[Dave] That Memorial Day weekend,</i>
<i>you guys took a motorcycle trip.</i>

509
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:15,361
{\an8}<i>Who came up with the idea</i>
<i>to go out to Crabtree?</i>

510
00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:16,529
<i>[Paul] </i>{\an8}I'm not sure,

511
00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:20,074
{\an8}<i>but it could have been me,</i>
<i>because I liked it a lot.</i>

512
00:28:20,158 --> 00:28:25,121
<i>Back then it was pretty popular,</i>
<i>but still there wasn't a lot of people.</i>

513
00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:30,877
<i>There's a sign there that says,</i>
<i>"20 people, or whatever, have fallen."</i>

514
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,379
<i>"Don't be the 21st,"</i>
<i>or something like that.</i>

515
00:28:33,963 --> 00:28:37,508
{\an8}<i>David, that sign</i>
<i>that you're talking about,</i>

516
00:28:37,592 --> 00:28:42,680
{\an8}<i>I read to the group aloud</i>
<i>as we walked towards that sign.</i>

517
00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:44,557
<i>I knew the sign, I knew what it said.</i>

518
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,810
<i>-[Dave] Wow.</i>
<i>-</i>It was, like, giving them fair warning.

519
00:28:47,894 --> 00:28:49,228
<i>"This place is dangerous.</i>"

520
00:28:49,312 --> 00:28:50,313
<i>Wow.</i>

521
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:51,397
<i>[somber music plays]</i>

522
00:28:51,481 --> 00:28:52,565
<i>[sighs] Jeez.</i>

523
00:28:52,648 --> 00:28:56,110
<i>[Paul]</i> Your brother was extremely brave.

524
00:28:56,194 --> 00:28:58,988
<i>-[Dave] Yeah.</i>
<i>-[Paul] </i>He was extremely strong.

525
00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:03,493
<i>Your brother saw these people</i>
<i>rappelling down the mountain.</i>

526
00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:06,412
<i>And they had all the gear</i>
<i>that you need to rappel.</i>

527
00:29:06,496 --> 00:29:08,956
<i>I believe he was trying to show off.</i>

528
00:29:09,499 --> 00:29:12,293
<i>-Yeah.</i>
<i>-[Paul] </i>And he climbed a tree

529
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,712
<i>and jumped over to the falls.</i>

530
00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:17,757
<i>And he was so confident,</i>

531
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,928
<i>he thought he could get a fingerhold</i>
<i>and climb up the mountain.</i>

532
00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:28,935
<i>And those rocks were so old,</i>
<i>sloping downward, they'd been worn smooth.</i>

533
00:29:29,018 --> 00:29:32,897
<i>He didn't have anything to hold on to,</i>
<i>and that's why he fell off.</i>

534
00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:37,443
<i>You actually… um, were there</i>

535
00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:41,405
<i>when he took that death-defying leap.</i>

536
00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:46,536
<i>[Paul]</i> I didn't see him take the leap.
Somebody else did.

537
00:29:47,245 --> 00:29:48,913
<i>That always plagued me…</i>

538
00:29:49,747 --> 00:29:52,208
<i>How could Mark ever--</i>

539
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:56,671
<i>How could this ever happen to him</i>
<i>because he was… he was not stupid.</i>

540
00:29:56,754 --> 00:29:59,131
<i>[Paul]</i> We were all very sad.

541
00:29:59,215 --> 00:30:05,054
<i>I mean, it was really hard for us</i>
<i>to understand why it happened.</i>

542
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:08,724
<i>It was-- just didn't make sense.</i>

543
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:14,188
<i>Yeah, and the last thing</i>
<i>that Mark ate was a can of peaches.</i>

544
00:30:14,272 --> 00:30:15,273
<i>Mm-hm.</i>

545
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:17,066
<i>[Dave chuckles]</i>

546
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,610
<i>[Paul] </i>I watched him
eat that can of peaches.

547
00:30:19,694 --> 00:30:20,611
<i>[Dave laughs]</i>

548
00:30:20,695 --> 00:30:23,531
<i>-I'll be darned.</i>
<i>-[Paul] </i>You know, they were vegetarians.

549
00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:27,785
<i>I really appreciate you</i>
<i>taking the time to talk to me.</i>

550
00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:29,829
<i>[Paul] </i>Yes, you're welcome.

551
00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:33,040
<i>Yeah, I'm sorry for your loss,</i>
<i>David, I really am.</i>

552
00:30:33,124 --> 00:30:34,959
<i>[gentle music plays]</i>

553
00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:38,379
<i>[Dave] I felt good</i>
<i>that I could actually talk to this guy</i>

554
00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:40,882
<i>who spent the last day with my brother.</i>

555
00:30:41,424 --> 00:30:45,469
<i>Mark loved peaches. When Paul told me,</i>

556
00:30:45,553 --> 00:30:47,221
<i>it was like, "That's so Mark."</i>

557
00:30:47,305 --> 00:30:49,765
<i>[cameraman] Something</i>
<i>that you want right here.</i>

558
00:30:49,849 --> 00:30:53,102
<i>[Mark] Yeah! That looks almost delicious.</i>

559
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,482
<i>Hey, first time I'm on my video. Oh boy!</i>

560
00:30:58,566 --> 00:31:04,155
<i>[Dave] I'm very happy that I had a chance</i>
<i>to get some idea of what the day was like.</i>

561
00:31:07,116 --> 00:31:10,661
<i>Mark did what he did, and he died,</i>

562
00:31:10,745 --> 00:31:12,788
<i>and we're suffering with his loss.</i>

563
00:31:13,831 --> 00:31:16,208
<i>[Dave]</i>
<i>My brother has a brick in here somewhere.</i>

564
00:31:20,463 --> 00:31:21,422
<i>[Dave] There it is.</i>

565
00:31:23,841 --> 00:31:25,801
<i>[sighs] Right there.</i>

566
00:31:28,137 --> 00:31:29,597
<i>[emotionally] I miss him.</i>

567
00:31:31,474 --> 00:31:33,267
<i>[sniffles, gasps]</i>

568
00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,395
<i>[sobbing]</i>

569
00:31:37,188 --> 00:31:40,399
<i>[Dave] It does bring a bit of closure but…</i>

570
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:45,821
<i>what happens to Bhagavan as a result of</i>

571
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:51,369
<i>the other atrocities that people</i>
<i>have talked about that he has done?</i>

572
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:54,997
<i>Let's just hope justice prevails.</i>

573
00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:57,917
<i>[indistinct voices]</i>

574
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,754
<i>[Steven] For a period of time,</i>
<i>life just went on for Bhagavan.</i>

575
00:32:03,214 --> 00:32:06,676
<i>You know, at the zoo, it just kept going.</i>

576
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,304
<i>I never saw</i>
<i>any emotion from him in that respect.</i>

577
00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:15,643
<i>Once again, it was a constant stream</i>
<i>of young girls coming in and out.</i>

578
00:32:15,726 --> 00:32:19,939
<i>Bhagavan would groom one girl,</i>
<i>after another girl,</i>

579
00:32:20,022 --> 00:32:22,233
<i>and then one more.</i>

580
00:32:22,316 --> 00:32:26,195
<i>They're all afraid to say anything</i>
<i>because their parents are still there.</i>

581
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:28,239
<i>Their families</i>
<i>are still part of the ashram.</i>

582
00:32:28,322 --> 00:32:33,244
{\an8}<i>[Ruth] I do not believe that anyone</i>
<i>who has a predilection</i>

583
00:32:33,327 --> 00:32:38,582
<i>for 12, 13, 14-year-old</i>
<i>virginal girls ever changes.</i>

584
00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:42,837
<i>I wondered why Swami Satchidananda would</i>
<i>allow him to be a part of our community,</i>

585
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,131
<i>because people were asked to leave.</i>

586
00:32:45,214 --> 00:32:48,676
<i>But eventually someone broke the silence.</i>

587
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:49,885
<i>[lion growling]</i>

588
00:32:49,969 --> 00:32:51,137
<i>That's a good boy.</i>

589
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:52,888
<i>[moody guitar music plays]</i>

590
00:32:52,972 --> 00:32:55,099
<i>[Earl Wood]</i>
<i>He knew that we were after him.</i>

591
00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:02,023
<i>Our department received information from</i>
<i>a law enforcement agency in California</i>

592
00:33:02,815 --> 00:33:08,237
<i>to verify if, number one,</i>
<i>Mr. Antle was in fact there,</i>

593
00:33:09,113 --> 00:33:11,490
<i>and number two, if he was,</i>

594
00:33:11,574 --> 00:33:15,536
<i>were there any underage females</i>
<i>with him at the time?</i>

595
00:33:15,619 --> 00:33:18,372
<i>And I was handed a warrant</i>

596
00:33:19,081 --> 00:33:20,249
<i>for his arrest.</i>

597
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:23,127
<i>[tense guitar music plays]</i>

598
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:27,214
<i>[Earl] His house has a great big fence</i>
<i>with a big chain around it,</i>

599
00:33:27,298 --> 00:33:29,133
<i>so there's no way we can get in.</i>

600
00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:32,887
<i>Nobody was there, but when I left,</i>
<i>I spotted a vehicle,</i>

601
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,764
<i>the only one, coming at me.</i>

602
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:39,643
<i>So, I slow down</i>
<i>and as we came into each other,</i>

603
00:33:39,727 --> 00:33:41,687
<i>he dropped his head and hid.</i>

604
00:33:42,271 --> 00:33:43,898
<i>Then I knew it was him.</i>

605
00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:48,486
<i>So immediately I made a u-turn,</i>
<i>cut my emergency overhead light on.</i>

606
00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:49,403
<i>He ran.</i>

607
00:33:49,487 --> 00:33:50,321
<i>[siren wails]</i>

608
00:33:50,404 --> 00:33:53,365
<i>[Earl] That's the last time</i>
<i>I saw his brake lights come on.</i>

609
00:33:54,492 --> 00:33:57,828
<i>He had already gone</i>
<i>back to his house and left the car</i>

610
00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:01,457
<i>with the door wide open and just--</i>
<i>He was gone.</i>

611
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:03,751
<i>It was an abandoned vehicle.</i>

612
00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:05,669
<i>[Earl] I was aggravated.</i>

613
00:34:06,462 --> 00:34:09,006
<i>But immediately I went out</i>
<i>and I started looking for him.</i>

614
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,383
<i>I search for about,</i>
<i>maybe, an hour and a half,</i>

615
00:34:11,467 --> 00:34:13,719
<i>because normally</i>
<i>I don't let people get away.</i>

616
00:34:13,803 --> 00:34:15,304
<i>It's just not going to happen.</i>

617
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:20,392
<i>Went home, came back the next day,</i>
<i>the car's still there, door's still open.</i>

618
00:34:20,476 --> 00:34:21,519
<i>[music climaxes]</i>

619
00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:22,520
<i>[birds chirp]</i>

620
00:34:22,603 --> 00:34:26,607
<i>[Earl] Day three,</i>
<i>car was still there with the door open.</i>

621
00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:30,528
<i>Fourth day, I went by there</i>
<i>and the vehicle was gone.</i>

622
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,865
<i>So, I went up and I blew the siren again.</i>
<i>Nothin', nobody.</i>

623
00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:38,244
<i>[birds and insects chirping]</i>

624
00:34:38,327 --> 00:34:41,288
<i>[Todd] But after a while,</i>
<i>Doc abandoned the zoo down here.</i>

625
00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:44,208
<i>I've read that he had all kind of charges.</i>

626
00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:47,169
<i>State Police had, like,</i>
<i>an all-points bulletin out for him,</i>

627
00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:50,005
<i>saying he was gonna try to leave.</i>
<i>But he must have got away.</i>

628
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:53,551
<i>[cryptic instrumental music plays]</i>

629
00:34:53,634 --> 00:34:57,721
<i>[Todd] USDA came a bunch of times</i>
<i>'cause they heard he'd abandoned the zoo.</i>

630
00:34:57,805 --> 00:35:01,934
<i>They said it had snowed 20 days before.</i>
<i>They knew nobody had been here for 20 days</i>

631
00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:04,478
<i>'cause there were</i>
<i>no footprints in the snow.</i>

632
00:35:05,479 --> 00:35:09,191
<i>[Todd] It was animals that he left behind,</i>
<i>and I think just moldy hay for them.</i>

633
00:35:09,859 --> 00:35:13,404
<i>This whole thing was enclosed,</i>
<i>so they're just roaming inside.</i>

634
00:35:13,487 --> 00:35:14,822
<i>[birds chirp]</i>

635
00:35:14,905 --> 00:35:17,825
<i>[Steven] I got a call from someone</i>
<i>in Buckingham</i>

636
00:35:17,908 --> 00:35:21,537
<i>that Bhagavan had left</i>
<i>some animals on the property</i>

637
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,205
<i>and they were trying to find him.</i>

638
00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:26,667
<i>The next time I saw him was in Tennessee.</i>

639
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:28,169
<i>[cryptic guitar music plays]</i>

640
00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:32,298
<i>[Steven] He had found some money,</i>
<i>which he used to call a honeypot.</i>

641
00:35:32,381 --> 00:35:35,467
<i>He was able to get some investment</i>

642
00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:41,390
<i>and he was building the first iteration</i>
<i>of what eventually would become</i>

643
00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:44,935
<i>the compound that he now has</i>
<i>in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.</i>

644
00:35:46,061 --> 00:35:47,688
<i>[speaking indistinctly]</i>

645
00:35:49,106 --> 00:35:51,942
<i>[interviewer 2] Why won't you</i>
<i>even talk about that part of your life?</i>

646
00:35:52,026 --> 00:35:54,403
<i>I already explained it,</i>
<i>you wanna shut the camera off</i>

647
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:57,781
<i>I'll explain it to you again,</i>
<i>for the eighth fucking time.</i>

648
00:35:57,865 --> 00:36:00,117
<i>My story is the story of conservation.</i>

649
00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:04,622
<i>My story is not the story</i>
<i>of my lifestyle growing up.</i>

650
00:36:04,705 --> 00:36:10,544
<i>You keep asking questions that may,</i>
<i>in fact, give the bad guys opportunities</i>

651
00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:15,382
<i>to punch holes in a story</i>
<i>to create drama that's untrue,</i>

652
00:36:15,466 --> 00:36:16,926
<i>but it still creates drama.</i>

653
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,802
<i>[dramatic music plays]</i>

654
00:36:18,886 --> 00:36:24,058
<i>[Ruth] Bhagavan is</i>
<i>an egocentric narcissist</i>

655
00:36:24,141 --> 00:36:27,102
<i>who really believes</i>
<i>that he is one of the tigers.</i>

656
00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:31,398
<i>He's the main tiger at his zoo,</i>
<i>and he's very far from it.</i>

657
00:36:31,482 --> 00:36:32,399
<i>[lion growls]</i>

658
00:36:32,483 --> 00:36:35,402
<i>[Doc] Lions kill each other in the wild,</i>
<i>they are always looking</i>

659
00:36:35,486 --> 00:36:36,946
<i>to take over the pride.</i>

660
00:36:37,029 --> 00:36:39,114
<i>The big males have harems that they keep.</i>

661
00:36:39,198 --> 00:36:41,909
<i>You put it in such a delicate way,</i>
<i>"Take over the pride."</i>

662
00:36:41,992 --> 00:36:43,494
<i>-"Take over."</i>
<i>-[both laughing]</i>

663
00:36:43,577 --> 00:36:46,956
<i>And to keep that harem intact,</i>
<i>they have to fight to the death.</i>

664
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,583
<i>Males come in</i>
<i>and say, "I'd like to have your girls."</i>

665
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,835
<i>And they say,</i>
<i>"Well, let's fight about it."</i>

666
00:36:51,919 --> 00:36:54,922
<i>And whichever lion wins gets the girls.</i>

667
00:36:55,005 --> 00:36:58,425
<i>He struck me as the Harvey Weinstein</i>
<i>of the animal training business.</i>

668
00:36:58,509 --> 00:37:01,053
<i>Higher up. Raise your arms up.</i>

669
00:37:01,136 --> 00:37:05,224
<i>I think he's gonna have to face the music</i>
<i>on his predator behavior.</i>

670
00:37:05,307 --> 00:37:07,017
<i>[meowing, purring]</i>

671
00:37:07,101 --> 00:37:09,937
<i>[Radha] He's left a trail of suffering</i>
<i>behind him.</i>

672
00:37:11,063 --> 00:37:14,525
<i>[Sumati] I hope the truth about the way</i>
<i>he's been treating people</i>

673
00:37:14,608 --> 00:37:16,402
<i>over time will be known,</i>

674
00:37:16,485 --> 00:37:20,239
<i>and that the victims</i>
<i>and the survivors will be empowered.</i>

675
00:37:20,322 --> 00:37:21,282
<i>[music builds]</i>

676
00:37:21,365 --> 00:37:25,035
<i>[Steven] The universe</i>
<i>is a perfect accounting system.</i>

677
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,789
<i>It's like a beautiful</i>
<i>symphony of mathematics.</i>

678
00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:31,667
<i>And no debt will ever go unpaid.</i>

679
00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:37,381
<i>Tonight, the Myrtle Beach Safari is at</i>
<i>the center of a multi-state investigation.</i>

680
00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,676
<i>Breaking news:</i>
<i>An indictment on this</i> Tiger King<i> star.</i>

681
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:44,346
<i>[reporter] This week Bhagavan "Doc" Antle</i>
<i>was indicted in Virginia</i>

682
00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:47,224
<i>on animal cruelty</i>
<i>and wildlife trafficking charges.</i>

683
00:37:48,225 --> 00:37:51,645
<i>[Brittany Peet] I don't know</i>
<i>what Doc's expiration date is,</i>

684
00:37:51,729 --> 00:37:56,358
<i>but given all of the accusations,</i>
<i>I hope that it will be soon.</i>

685
00:37:56,442 --> 00:38:02,573
{\an8}<i>I categorically deny any act or conduct</i>
<i>that could be considered animal cruelty.</i>

686
00:38:02,656 --> 00:38:03,949
<i>[music builds]</i>

687
00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:06,327
<i>[Diane] You know, I think karma</i>
<i>is a strange thing.</i>

688
00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:10,831
<i>In my life when there have been wrongs</i>
<i>done to me and I've thought,</i>

689
00:38:10,914 --> 00:38:14,084
<i>"I'm gonna get revenge,</i>
<i>I'm going to fix this person."</i>

690
00:38:14,168 --> 00:38:17,671
<i>Every time I've left it</i>
<i>to God to take care of,</i>

691
00:38:17,755 --> 00:38:21,175
<i>the result has been</i>
<i>far greater, and more creative,</i>

692
00:38:21,258 --> 00:38:24,428
<i>and more intriguing</i>
<i>than I could ever have done on my own.</i>

693
00:38:24,511 --> 00:38:27,598
<i>So I think perhaps what's happening now</i>

694
00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:30,601
<i>is really karma.</i>

695
00:38:33,562 --> 00:38:34,897
<i>[music crescendos]</i>

696
00:38:38,067 --> 00:38:41,904
{\an8}<i>[tense music plays]</i>