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<i>[cryptic instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[Steven] There was</i>
<i>an endless supply of beautiful girls.</i>

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<i>They were coming in and out</i>
<i>of those gates constantly.</i>

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<i>You almost needed a revolving door.</i>

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<i>[Doc] As far as my personal</i>
<i>and private life, I want to be honest.</i>

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<i>I have nothing to hide.</i>

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<i>And the truth is,</i>

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<i>back in my twenties, back in the 1980s,</i>

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<i>I was way too promiscuous.</i>

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<i>[Doc] Tiger's a glamour show.</i>

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<i>If you're a guy</i>
<i>at the circus that works a tiger,</i>

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<i>you know, you're gonna get</i>
<i>more action than the clown.</i>

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<i>[male voice] Doc Antle has a reputation</i>
<i>for liking a lot of different women.</i>

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<i>If you try to explain that operation</i>
<i>to people who weren't part of it,</i>

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<i>no matter what,</i>
<i>it sounds like the most obtuse, weird,</i>

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<i>Twilight Zone</i>
kind of shit, no matter what.

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<i>[Sean] I told Doc Antle back in 1999, </i>

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<i>don't come crying to me</i>
<i>with your women problems.</i>

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<i>I don't want to hear about 'em.</i>

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<i>I had enough trouble</i>
<i>keeping track of my sordid shit,</i>

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<i>without trying to figure out what Doc</i>
<i>was doing when we weren't collaborating.</i>

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<i>[birds chirping]</i>

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<i>Just the other day on my Facebook post,</i>

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<i>on my Facebook status, I posted,</i>

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<i>"I never needed a Corvette.</i>
<i>I never needed a tiger."</i>

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<i>"I got a pretty big dick."</i>

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<i>[cryptic instrumental music plays]</i>

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<i>[birds chirping]</i>

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<i>[sitar plays]</i>

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<i>Bhagavan and I met</i>
<i>for the first time at the ashram.</i>

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<i>I think I was about 11 or 12 years old.</i>

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<i>[Radha] They would offer a lunch</i>
<i>and he came for lunch.</i>

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<i>I was actually</i>
<i>quite enamored with him right away.</i>

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<i>[Radha] He was this</i>
<i>larger-than-life character.</i>

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<i>One of the first times</i>
<i>that my daughter saw him,</i>

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<i>she said to me, "I'm gonna marry him."</i>

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<i>[Diane] Since she was a little girl,</i>
<i>she's always had this mantra,</i>

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<i>"You're not the boss of me."</i>

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<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

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<i>[Radha] Growing up, I would sometimes</i>
<i>spend the weekends at his house.</i>

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<i>I wanted to spend time with him</i>
<i>and with the animals.</i>

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<i>[Diane] Everyone looked up to him</i>

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<i>and I never had any indication</i>
<i>that there was anything amiss.</i>

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<i>I never worried about it for a moment.</i>

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<i>[Radha] My mom moved around quite a bit</i>
<i>and I enjoyed having the freedom.</i>

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<i>I was grateful to be on my own.</i>

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<i>[Sachi] Her mom was just not on the scene.</i>

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<i>It was really bizarre and she lived</i>
<i>with different families at Yogaville.</i>

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<i>[Doc speaks indistinctly]</i>

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<i>[Betsy] Radha became our babysitter</i>

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<i>and then, after a while,</i>
<i>she turned out to be his girlfriend.</i>

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<i>[interviewer] How old was she</i>
<i>when she started babysitting?</i>

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<i>She was very young.</i>

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<i>[Radha] I was 14 the first time</i>
<i>anything romantic happened.</i>

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<i>That's actually the day</i>
<i>we were together for the first time.</i>

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<i>[Radha] He told me</i>
<i>that it was one of his specialties,</i>

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<i>but the first time</i>
<i>was a bit underwhelming. [laughs]</i>

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<i>[Radha] After we were together,</i>

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<i>he said, "If it's not okay with you,</i>
<i>you know, I can make you forget."</i>

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<i>Like the Jedi mind trick. [laughs]</i>

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<i>And I actually somehow, even at that age,</i>

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<i>I found that more strange</i>

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<i>than the fact that he was making</i>
<i>sexual advances to a 14-year-old girl.</i>

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<i>[Radha] At the time I knew that he was</i>
<i>having a relationship with Sumati</i>

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<i>and I think that's part of why I felt,</i>

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<i>"Oh, I'm of age now."</i>

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<i>[Radha] The first time was</i>
<i>in the back of a truck.</i>

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<i>I remember saying to him,</i>
<i>"Why? Why in the back of a truck?"</i>

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<i>And he said, and I quote,</i>
<i>I remember this clearly,</i>

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<i>"Because I wanted</i>
<i>to get my claws into you."</i>

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<i>You just pet him.</i>
<i>You just let him rub on you for affection.</i>

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<i>You don't play cat and mouse,</i>
<i>tickle and slap.</i>

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<i>-Huh? Yeah! That's a lot right there.</i>
<i>-[Lion growls]</i>

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<i>[Sumati] Up until Radha,</i>

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<i>he sort of implied that it was</i>
<i>just "Brahmi" and me and that was it.</i>

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<i>But once he got involved with Radha,</i>

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<i>he was like,</i>
<i>"I want to have multiple women."</i>

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<i>I was in a ménage à trois</i>
<i>with Radha and Bhagavan more than once.</i>

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<i>[Sachi] I remember, it seemed strange</i>

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<i>because Sumati and her</i>
<i>used to </i>hate<i> each other.</i>

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<i>And then all of a sudden</i>
<i>they were best friends.</i>

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<i>[Radha] For as young as we were,</i>
<i>we handled it</i>

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<i>between one another extremely well.</i>

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<i>But eventually my mom found out,</i>
<i>actually through Brahmi.</i>

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<i>[Betsy] I caught them making out,</i>
<i>that's how I found out.</i>

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<i>It never occurred to me</i>

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<i>that he would be having sex</i>
<i>with a girl that young.</i>

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<i>It's hard for me to imagine I was married</i>
<i>to somebody that would do that.</i>

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<i>[Diane] Well, I thought,</i>
<i>"We have to get her out of there."</i>

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<i>In a short period of time,</i>
<i>I had her flown across country,</i>

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<i>I picked her up at the airport,</i>
<i>moved her in with me,</i>

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<i>and literally across the street</i>
<i>from where I lived</i>

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<i>was a catholic school.</i>

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<i>[birds chirping]</i>

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<i>[Radha] My mom enrolled me</i>
<i>in Saint Monica's Catholic High School.</i>

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<i>I just kind of felt, at that point,</i>
<i>like I was playing the role.</i>

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<i>We wore little</i>
<i>catholic school girl uniforms,</i>

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<i>which I find so hilarious now.</i>

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<i>Especially thinking back</i>
<i>to the big abduction. [laughs]</i>

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<i>[Diane] In those days there weren't</i>
<i>cell phones, but there were extensions,</i>

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<i>and I heard her talking to someone,</i>
<i>I thought, "Who is she talking to?"</i>

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<i>So, I picked up the extension</i>
<i>and I heard her say, "Okay, see you soon."</i>

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<i>And it was Bhagavan</i>
<i>and I got very concerned.</i>

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<i>I took her to the police station</i>
<i>and I said,</i>

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<i>"I think my daughter is going to run away</i>

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<i>and be with this gentleman</i>
<i>who's married and lives in Virginia."</i>

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<i>And that's when they took</i>
<i>that picture of her that's on the poster</i>

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<i>and they did some</i>
<i>sort of scared straight tactic with her.</i>

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<i>In my mind, I was a little naive.</i>

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<i>I thought,</i>
<i>"This is gonna nip it in the bud."</i>

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<i>"Now she knows we're onto her."</i>

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<i>I wasn't, at the time,</i>
<i>capable of understanding</i>

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<i>or wanting to hear that, or know that.</i>

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<i>I really thought that I loved him.</i>

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<i>About a week later,</i>

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<i>she puts on her little uniform,</i>
<i>a cute little outfit,</i>

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<i>she takes her books,</i>
<i>I said, "You got your homework?"</i>

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<i>"Yeah," she goes out the front door,</i>

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<i>and she doesn't ever come back again.</i>

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<i>She doesn't come back.</i>

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<i>[Radha] I was all too happy</i>
<i>to jump in that car and run away with him.</i>

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<i>[tires screech]</i>

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<i>I really suspected</i>
<i>that he had her, so I called him.</i>

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<i>I said, "Bhagavan, where's my daughter?</i>
<i>You put her on the phone right now."</i>

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<i>He said, "I don't know</i>
<i>what you're talking about."</i>

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<i>"She hated you</i>
<i>and she hated living with you so much</i>

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<i>that I think she ran away."</i>

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<i>"I suggest you look in the local shelters,</i>
<i>because I think that's where she is."</i>

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<i>So that began an odyssey of posters.</i>

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<i>"Have you seen this child?"</i>
<i>Because we didn't have amber alerts.</i>

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<i>They said,</i>
<i>"You need to write a personal note."</i>

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<i>And I wrote, like,</i>
<i>"Please call me. Everything will be okay."</i>

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<i>And put them up all over town.</i>

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<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

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<i>I lost my job over it because I was</i>
<i>either crying or I was on the phone</i>

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<i>with a police officer,</i>
<i>or the sheriff, or a shelter.</i>

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<i>Yeah, and I don't blame them, though.</i>
<i>I was useless. You know?</i>

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<i>[Radha] He put me in a hotel</i>
<i>on the outskirts of DC.</i>

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<i>So I was living in an Econo Lodge</i>
<i>by myself for at least a month.</i>

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<i>I don't know what the maid</i>
<i>must have thought was going on.</i>

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<i>She would come and she would clean,</i>
<i>and I would sit there. It was bizarre.</i>

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<i>[Radha] But it was pretty boring.</i>
<i>I think I watched a lot of daytime TV.</i>

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<i>[muffled TV program plays]</i>

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<i>[Radha] And eventually,</i>
<i>it became important to me</i>

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<i>to let my mom know that I was okay.</i>

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<i>After being gone for about</i>
<i>three weeks, she calls me collect.</i>

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<i>[Radha] While I was on the phone with her,</i>

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<i>something happened</i>
<i>when the operator interrupts on the call,</i>

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<i>and my mom was quick enough to say</i>

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<i>"Operator, my daughter has run away."</i>

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<i>"Can you please tell me</i>
<i>where this call is coming from?"</i>

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<i>And they said, "From Washington.</i>
<i>It's from Washington DC."</i>

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<i>And I knew he had her 'cause she was</i>
<i>on the east coast, and then she was gone.</i>

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<i>I was like, "Oh no, I fucked up!"</i>
<i>I panicked and like hung up the phone,</i>

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<i>and then I had to confess</i>
<i>to Bhagavan, "I called my mom."</i>

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<i>"I think we're gonna have to move hotels."</i>

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<i>I don't think he was</i>
<i>particularly happy with that, no.</i>

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<i>[suspenseful music plays]</i>

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<i>[Radha] We cut my hair and,</i>
<i>you know, put some highlights</i>

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<i>and made it curly</i>
<i>and kind of disguised me.</i>

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<i>We had another entire identity for me.</i>

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<i>There was a girl in Saint Monica's</i>
<i>and she was a beautiful girl.</i>

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<i>Her name was Chantal Rivera, and I just</i>
<i>thought it was the most beautiful name.</i>

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<i>So when he was like,</i>
<i>"You need an identity,"</i>

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<i>I was like, "I'll be Chantal Rivera."</i>

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<i>When I went to go live on the zoo,</i>

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<i>all of the staff were forced,</i>
<i>even though they knew me as Radha,</i>

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<i>they were all forced to call me Chantal.</i>

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<i>I kept calling</i>
<i>the sheriff down in Virginia,</i>

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<i>I said, "Go to that property."</i>

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<i>"I believe my daughter is there</i>
<i>and she's only 15 years old."</i>

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<i>You know, we would</i>
<i>role play and go over it.</i>

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<i>You know,</i>
<i>"This is who I am, this is how old I am."</i>

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<i>"No, I'm not Radha. What are you, crazy?"</i>

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{\an8}<i>[Radha] He thought, you know, that perhaps</i>
<i>there were detectives with sonic equipment</i>

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{\an8}<i>waiting for someone</i>
<i>to slip up and call me Radha.</i>

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<i>[Radha] Bhagavan was being</i>
<i>questioned by the police</i>

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<i>and some of the staff</i>
<i>met them with guns at the gate.</i>

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<i>[dramatic music plays]</i>

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<i>[Radha] I think Bhagavan somewhat</i>
<i>enjoyed that cowboy role, too,</i>

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<i>of like, you know, "This is our property.</i>
<i>Nobody can come on."</i>

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<i>[Diane] About a month or so later,</i>
<i>she says,</i>

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<i>"Mom, I don't want you to worry."</i>

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<i>"Everything's okay. We're married."</i>

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<i>I went, "Excuse me?"</i>

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<i>"How can you be married? First of all,</i>
<i>he's got a wife and children."</i>

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<i>"You're 15 years old.</i>
<i>How could you possibly be married?"</i>

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<i>We forged my father's signature</i>
<i>on the marriage license,</i>

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<i>because you are not allowed</i>
<i>to get married at 15</i>

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<i>without one of your parent's consent.</i>

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<i>[somber music plays]</i>

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<i>Now, at this point, I had two options.</i>

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<i>I could either go full-bore,</i>
<i>sheriff, police, everything,</i>

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<i>just converge and find her, and rip her</i>
<i>out of there, and bring her back.</i>

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<i>But I had a friend who was</i>
<i>very smart and here's what he told me,</i>

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<i>"You can do that. She will hate you."</i>

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<i>"It will bring them closer together."</i>

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<i>"Or you can do</i>
<i>your best to be on her side."</i>

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<i>"Support her, go to Virginia, make peace,</i>

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<i>because the day will come,</i>
<i>and it will come,</i>

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<i>when she wants to leave."</i>

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<i>"And when that day comes,</i>

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<i>you want her to pick up the phone</i>
<i>and say, 'Mom, I'm coming home.'"</i>

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<i>And that's what I decided to do.</i>

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<i>[Radha] My parents and everybody</i>
<i>began to just accept,</i>

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<i>"Well, we don't really like it,</i>
<i>but this is the way that it is."</i>

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<i>[journalist 1] </i>With this many mouths
to feed, Bhagavan can't do it alone.

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<i>And as of Valentine's Day of this year,</i>
<i>he got a new right-hand man.</i>

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<i>His wife, Radha.</i>

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<i>[Steven] Bhagavan wanted</i>
<i>to be kind of a Jack Hanna,</i>

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<i>Jeff Corwin-type talking head,</i>
<i>animal expert on television.</i>

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<i>And Bhagavan came up</i>
<i>with the idea of writing the script</i>

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<i>and producing this movie</i>
<i>he thought would draw attention to us.</i>

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<i>-[Radha squeals]</i>
<i>-[lion growls]</i>

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<i>[journalist 2]</i> Dr. Antle's latest project
is a G-rated movie called <i>Cubs.</i>

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<i>Bhagavan and his wife Radha play a part.</i>

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<i>It's being co-directed</i>
<i>by an Academy Award winner</i>

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<i>and former Disney director.</i>

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<i>They may not be spending big bucks,</i>
<i>but they do have a big message.</i>

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<i>[Doc laughs] I made a full-length feature</i>
<i>insane piece of crap.</i>

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<i>It is the world's worst tiger film</i>
<i>and it is so good because it is so bad.</i>

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<i>[Steven] </i>The Great Tiger Cub Adventure.

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<i>One of the biggest fiascoes I've ever</i>
<i>experienced in my life. [chuckles]</i>

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<i>You couldn't have cast that better</i>
<i>for, like, a </i>Saturday Night Live<i> sketch</i>

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<i>of like, you know,</i>
<i>people making a big blockbuster movie.</i>

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<i>[narrator] </i>It was a beautiful summer day
when the magic show came to town.

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<i>[upbeat music plays]</i>

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<i>Everyone came out to see Marvelous Marvin</i>

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<i>and his wild animals perform</i>
<i>their magical, mystifying illusions.</i>

235
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<i>[crowd cheers]</i>

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<i>The idea, coming from a small town</i>
<i>and being a ten-year-old,</i>

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<i>that you're going</i>
<i>to be a movie star in a film with tigers.</i>

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<i>It was quite an event.</i>

239
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<i>Andrea Terry went up to Wintergreen</i>
<i>to get a look at the stars of </i>Cubs.

240
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<i>[indistinct chatter]</i>

241
00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:39,778
<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

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<i>[Martin] Buckingham is a quaint</i>
<i>little town with two traffic lights,</i>

243
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<i>one grocery store,</i>
<i>cows, and deer, and turkey.</i>

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<i>But to see lions, and tigers, and bears,</i>

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<i>that kind of stuff</i>
<i>doesn't happen all the time.</i>

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<i>[Martin]</i>
<i>There's kind of the whole gang here,</i>

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<i>Radha, Bhagavan, myself, Anna, Teresa, RB.</i>

248
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<i>We were gonna be movie stars</i>
<i>and make thousands of dollars.</i>

249
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<i>I mean, they were certainly behaving as</i>
<i>if it was, you know, the next </i>ET.<i> [laughs]</i>

250
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<i>We're gonna chose,</i>
<i>perhaps, two or three boys and girls,</i>

251
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<i>maybe two brothers, brother and sister,</i>

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<i>to be in the whole movie,</i>
<i>see you all can't be in the whole movie.</i>

253
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<i>It was probably</i>
<i>50 kids went for the auditions.</i>

254
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<i>They had the kids picked out</i>

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<i>'cause it was kids of people</i>
<i>that were gonna buy stock of the movie.</i>

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<i>[Todd] A group of parents from the church</i>
<i>were going to invest money.</i>

257
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<i>Most of them were wealthier.</i>

258
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<i>The original idea was that</i>
<i>Kevin Bacon was going to play</i>

259
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<i>RB, the three-year-old, when he grew up.</i>

260
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<i>And even at 10,</i>
<i>you knew who Kevin Bacon was.</i>

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<i>That was kind of cool.</i>
<i>But no, Kevin Bacon never showed up.</i>

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<i>Bhagavan had bantered around</i>
<i>a bunch of celebrity names.</i>

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<i>Kevin Bacon was one,</i>

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<i>but he could never get anyone interested</i>
<i>because it was so bad, it was horrible.</i>

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<i>I don't know if they even</i>
<i>ever talked to Kevin Bacon.</i>

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<i>I think it was just…  big dreams, maybe.</i>

267
00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:02,736
<i>[insects chirp]</i>

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<i>[Todd] I never acted in a movie</i>
<i>before that.</i>

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<i>Here is where we shot the scene</i>

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<i>where we found the baby tigers</i>
<i>when we got off the bus.</i>

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<i>[male narrator]</i> Our heroes, Terry,
her friend Todd, and little brother, RB,

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<i>stumbled upon something</i>
<i>that would change their lives forever.</i>

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<i>But they end up writing me out because</i>

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<i>my parents wouldn't buy</i>
<i>stock in the movie. [chuckles]</i>

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<i>The story is about these three</i>

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<i>finding these three in the forest one day.</i>

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<i>[Doc] The guy that started it with me</i>
<i>is an Oscar-winning frickin' filmmaker</i>

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<i>who fell off the wagon in the middle</i>
<i>of it and he went to La La Land</i>

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<i>drinking, you know, full cups of vodka</i>
<i>for breakfast and he's drunk, fucked up.</i>

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<i>[director] Where were you standing,</i>
<i>were you standing there?</i>

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<i>Right there.</i>

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<i>[director] Right there, okay.</i>
<i>But where was your hand?</i>

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<i>They can't stay in here, Bob!</i>

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<i>[Bob] They can. I gotta match the shot.</i>

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<i>Okay, but the cubs, it will kill them.</i>

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<i>[Bob] Okay, all right. We're ready.</i>

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<i>Close-up.</i>

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<i>[Steven] That was a comedy of errors.</i>

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<i>It was just one bad day after another,</i>

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<i>and that production just started</i>
<i>sinking lower and lower.</i>

291
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<i>[journalist 2] </i>How do these kids feel
about their furry four-legged friends?

292
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<i>[boy] The cubs… all right,</i>
<i>but the big tiger I'm not so sure about.</i>

293
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<i>-Scarier when they're big.</i>
<i>-Yeah.</i>

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<i>-[Doc] You film tight and I'll shoo it.</i>
<i>-[crew member] Rolling.</i>

295
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<i>[Martin] We're three feet away</i>
<i>from this massive tiger</i>

296
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<i>who could, at any moment, change its mind</i>
<i>and decide he wanted a snack.</i>

297
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<i>I didn't know that I was at risk</i>
<i>because the cat had actually gotten away</i>

298
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<i>and they were trying to get the cat back.</i>

299
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<i>The tiger cannot get to you or anywhere</i>
<i>near you 'cause he's on a big tough chain.</i>

300
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<i>I found out later on it had bitten a guy</i>
<i>just not long before we started filming.</i>

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<i>They had insurance on the animals,</i>
<i>they had insurance on the equipment,</i>

302
00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:58,518
<i>but no insurance on the kids.</i>

303
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<i>The only thing between us</i>
<i>and the panther was a 15-year-old girl.</i>

304
00:17:02,397 --> 00:17:04,399
<i>[girl] How come we can't pet this one?</i>

305
00:17:04,483 --> 00:17:08,236
<i>Well, actually,</i>
<i>all of the animals are pretty nice</i>

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<i>to the people who raised them</i>
<i>from little babies or who feed them.</i>

307
00:17:11,615 --> 00:17:13,450
<i>But they don't like strangers that much.</i>

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00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:16,244
<i>[Martin] There was some expectation </i>

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<i>that any child movie with animals</i>
<i>would sell big</i>

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00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:22,000
<i>and I think</i>
<i>that's what everyone was sold on.</i>

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00:17:22,584 --> 00:17:24,336
<i>No one knew it was going to be a bust</i>

312
00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:26,671
<i>and there was no speaking</i>
<i>and it was narrated.</i>

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<i>[Martin] This was all the cost</i>
<i>that was justified.</i>

314
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<i>We're talking a half a million dollars,</i>

315
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<i>which you would think would result in</i>
<i>much more than what it turned out to be.</i>

316
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<i>We thought we were going to get paid</i>
<i>at the end of it, and maybe be famous.</i>

317
00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:44,314
<i>But if we knew we weren't getting paid,</i>
<i>we might have protested.</i>

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<i>[Martin] My family and a bunch of others</i>
<i>were sold the promise</i>

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<i>that if you invest in this movie,</i>
<i>then you will get some payout.</i>

320
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<i>And I'm sure a bunch of people</i>
<i>lost a good chunk of change.</i>

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<i>[Martin] Even by today's standard,</i>
<i>what was done,</i>

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<i>half a million is a lot of money.</i>

323
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:06,002
<i>So someone should be able to track down</i>
<i>where the investments went</i>

324
00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:08,922
<i>and where the money went,</i>
<i>but we're talking 30 years ago.</i>

325
00:18:09,005 --> 00:18:13,093
<i>There are two things</i>
<i>about Bhagavan that are absolutely true.</i>

326
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<i>One is nothing good comes</i>
<i>from being associated with him in any way</i>

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<i>and he will damage you.</i>

328
00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:25,605
<i>And the second thing is,</i>
<i>if there's any money to be made,</i>

329
00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,316
<i>you're not the person</i>
<i>that's going to make it.</i>

330
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,154
<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

331
00:18:34,781 --> 00:18:39,327
{\an8}<i>[Steven] I signed</i>
<i>a million-dollar contract to go to Korea</i>

332
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{\an8}<i>and do three shows a day,</i>
<i>seven days a week.</i>

333
00:18:42,581 --> 00:18:45,167
<i>Bhagavan would come in and out.</i>
<i>He would fly in and out.</i>

334
00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:50,422
<i>Meanwhile, I was there not only doing</i>
<i>three shows a day, I was promoting it.</i>

335
00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:53,383
<i>I was doing special VIP performances.</i>

336
00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:56,553
<i>They had me working 18 hours a day</i>

337
00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:59,681
<i>and I barely made any money from that gig,</i>

338
00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:04,144
<i>because Bhagavan</i>
<i>made a secret deal with the producer,</i>

339
00:19:04,227 --> 00:19:08,773
<i>took most of that money, and I did</i>
<i>all these shows for almost nothing.</i>

340
00:19:09,399 --> 00:19:12,110
<i>Kevin spent my entire inheritance,</i>

341
00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:15,572
<i>without my permission</i>
<i>or without me being involved.</i>

342
00:19:16,281 --> 00:19:19,117
<i>[Betsy] It took me, like,</i>
<i>a year to even get a divorce.</i>

343
00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:22,037
<i>That's when he started</i>
<i>getting money out of other people.</i>

344
00:19:23,413 --> 00:19:26,499
<i>[Sean] I wrote all the stage shows</i>
<i>for Doc for 15 or 20 years.</i>

345
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<i>The big highlight was</i>
<i>to have the liger come out.</i>

346
00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:31,713
<i>And, you know,</i>
<i>"This is the liger, Sudan the liger."</i>

347
00:19:31,796 --> 00:19:35,217
<i>"In the ancient city of Singapore,</i>
<i>which was known as the city of lions…"</i>

348
00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:39,304
<i>[female guide] Long, long ago,</i>
<i>outside the ancient city of Singapore,</i>

349
00:19:39,387 --> 00:19:44,059
<i>which was known as "the city of lions,"</i>
<i>there were reports of giant brown beasts!</i>

350
00:19:44,142 --> 00:19:47,062
<i>-This massive creature you see before you.</i>
<i>-[drums beating]</i>

351
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<i>The deal was we would split</i>
<i>the profits of the shop 50/50.</i>

352
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,110
<i>You get your picture taken with the tiger,</i>
<i>and to get out, you walk past the swag.</i>

353
00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:58,782
<i>[Sean] But man, you can get a T-shirt</i>
<i>or an umbrella with a picture of a tiger.</i>

354
00:19:58,865 --> 00:20:01,868
<i>So that was my nut,</i>
<i>you know, it was the gift shop.</i>

355
00:20:02,911 --> 00:20:05,956
<i>It was never enough to live on.</i>
<i>I had to sacrifice a lot of shit.</i>

356
00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,082
<i>[indistinct chatter]</i>

357
00:20:07,165 --> 00:20:10,043
<i>[Sean] But the money</i>
<i>that they generate is to help animals.</i>

358
00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:10,961
<i>I love animals</i>

359
00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:14,756
<i>and I think the work of conservation</i>
<i>and preservation is extremely important.</i>

360
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:17,384
<i>Our trainers have dedicated their lives</i>

361
00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:20,178
<i>to caring for and conserving</i>
<i>these amazing animals.</i>

362
00:20:20,262 --> 00:20:24,224
<i>We feel it's our responsibility to share</i>
<i>what we've learned with all of you.</i>

363
00:20:24,307 --> 00:20:28,061
<i>We went on a tour</i>
<i>at 9:30 and we got done at 1:30.</i>

364
00:20:28,687 --> 00:20:33,024
<i>And they made $25,000.</i>

365
00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:35,443
<i>It was all about</i>
<i>saving the animals and wildlife.</i>

366
00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:39,489
{\an8}<i>And everything we sell and promote</i>

367
00:20:40,699 --> 00:20:42,784
{\an8}<i>goes to help conservation in the wild</i>

368
00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:44,369
{\an8}<i>and people will buy that.</i>

369
00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:49,499
<i>Doc Antle taught him that if he would give</i>
<i>just a little bit to conservation,</i>

370
00:20:49,582 --> 00:20:52,627
<i>people would see that and say,</i>
<i>"Hey, this guy's heart is true."</i>

371
00:20:52,711 --> 00:20:53,920
<i>And donate more money.</i>

372
00:20:54,004 --> 00:20:56,006
{\an8}<i>[dramatic music plays]</i>

373
00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:59,259
{\an8}<i>[male announcer] Meet Dr. Bhagavan Antle,</i>
<i>founder and director </i>

374
00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:01,011
<i>of the Rare Species Fund.</i>

375
00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:05,765
{\an8}<i>The Rare Species Fund is a grassroots</i>
<i>organization that provides…</i>

376
00:21:05,849 --> 00:21:08,476
{\an8}<i>I started to realize</i>
<i>this isn't about animal conservation.</i>

377
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,271
<i>This is all about</i>
<i>how are you going to make more money,</i>

378
00:21:11,354 --> 00:21:14,816
<i>how can we add to,</i>
<i>what else can we bring to the table?</i>

379
00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:18,945
<i>This is the door of one of</i>
<i>the pygmy kings that was being…</i>

380
00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:22,365
<i>I don't wanna say that.</i>
<i>We'll talk about it.</i>

381
00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:25,410
<i>We'll look inside this incredible door</i>
<i>that was made by pygmies.</i>

382
00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:30,665
<i>And you can see some of the incredible</i>
<i>amount of equipment we've taken there.</i>

383
00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:33,168
<i>[Doc] I have contributed</i>
<i>millions of dollars</i>

384
00:21:33,251 --> 00:21:35,712
<i>to conservation,</i>
<i>which is totally trackable.</i>

385
00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,088
<i>[percussive music plays]</i>

386
00:21:37,172 --> 00:21:41,259
{\an8}<i>[female voice] We've taken a look</i>
<i>at Doc Antle's Rare Species Fund</i>

387
00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:42,677
{\an8}<i>and it's garbage.</i>

388
00:21:42,761 --> 00:21:46,389
<i>A lot of that money just goes</i>
<i>right back into his own facility</i>

389
00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:49,351
<i>and he's arguing that</i>
<i>that constitutes conservation.</i>

390
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:54,481
<i>[Steven] This is a deceptive practice</i>
<i>that businesses use called "greenwashing,"</i>

391
00:21:55,106 --> 00:21:58,568
<i>to convince the buying public</i>

392
00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:02,155
<i>that their services</i>
<i>are environmentally friendly.</i>

393
00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:04,574
<i>Funds that are raised</i>
<i>here in the United States</i>

394
00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:08,787
<i>are then sent to projects</i>
<i>in Africa, Indonesia, South America</i>

395
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:11,081
<i>to be able to protect those animals there.</i>

396
00:22:11,164 --> 00:22:17,379
<i>[Jewels] We never did conservation work</i>
<i>outside of the United States, really.</i>

397
00:22:17,462 --> 00:22:21,299
<i>We would go on vacations to go</i>
<i>see animals in the wild for fun.</i>

398
00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:22,926
<i>[lions growling]</i>

399
00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,595
<i>[Jewels] And we did bring tigers</i>
<i>to Thailand</i>

400
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:27,889
<i>so they could develop breeding programs.</i>

401
00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:29,599
{\an8}<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

402
00:22:29,682 --> 00:22:32,977
{\an8}<i>[Barbara] We went to</i>
<i>the Samutprakan Crocodile Farm and Zoo.</i>

403
00:22:33,061 --> 00:22:36,398
<i>It was like a zoo</i>
<i>at the turn of the century.</i>

404
00:22:37,899 --> 00:22:41,194
<i>[Barbara] Bhagavan worked so hard</i>
<i>to get his tigers into Thailand, saying,</i>

405
00:22:41,277 --> 00:22:43,279
<i>"This is a new bloodline</i>
<i>that we're going to create."</i>

406
00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,739
<i>"This is where they live."</i>

407
00:22:44,823 --> 00:22:49,702
<i>"Tigers live in Thailand, we are</i>
<i>returning them to where they come from."</i>

408
00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:51,788
<i>Really, most of what we did</i>

409
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:55,625
<i>was teach the employees</i>
<i>how to take photos with tiger cubs.</i>

410
00:22:56,376 --> 00:22:58,002
<i>[employee speaks indistinctly]</i>

411
00:22:58,086 --> 00:23:02,507
<i>[Barbara] There was a chimpanzee</i>
<i>that would beg for cigarettes,</i>

412
00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:05,718
<i>'cause he was addicted to cigarettes</i>
<i>from people throwing them to him.</i>

413
00:23:05,802 --> 00:23:09,514
<i>And that was a selling point for the zoo.</i>
<i>This was not a conservation.</i>

414
00:23:10,432 --> 00:23:14,144
{\an8}<i>[Shavit] Talking about</i>
<i>preservation programs in Asia or Africa,</i>

415
00:23:14,227 --> 00:23:15,520
{\an8}<i>it's very impressive.</i>

416
00:23:15,603 --> 00:23:17,480
<i>Right? For propaganda.</i>

417
00:23:17,564 --> 00:23:18,648
<i>[cryptic music plays]</i>

418
00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:23,486
{\an8}<i>If you let the outside people come and see</i>
<i>what's going on behind the scenes,</i>

419
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,572
<i>then the dream is gone.</i>

420
00:23:26,114 --> 00:23:29,492
<i>[Jewels] Any photo shoots that we did,</i>
<i>if there was caging in the background</i>

421
00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:30,743
<i>he'd say, "Don't use it."</i>

422
00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:34,497
<i>He didn't like people to think</i>
<i>that these animals were stuck in cages.</i>

423
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,458
<i>We're getting lost.</i>
<i>This is Tiger Land here.</i>

424
00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:40,003
<i>[man] I thought where we interviewed</i>
<i>before was pretty good. Light and quiet.</i>

425
00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:41,004
<i>If you like it.</i>

426
00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:43,506
<i>-[man] It's good.</i>
<i>-[Doc] We don't want to see cages.</i>

427
00:23:48,344 --> 00:23:50,847
<i>[Magenta] The cats that were kept</i>
<i>in those cages, they would pace.</i>

428
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:53,766
<i>There was nothing else for them to do,</i>
<i>nowhere for them to be,</i>

429
00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:57,770
<i>and they would just pace</i>
<i>until the ground was bloody constantly.</i>

430
00:23:57,854 --> 00:24:01,649
<i>And he wore bloody holes</i>
<i>into the soles of their feet.</i>

431
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,569
<i>And when I would say something about it,</i>
<i>they would just say,</i>

432
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,613
<i>"Well, hose it down."</i>

433
00:24:07,322 --> 00:24:10,575
<i>You would just</i>
<i>hose the blood out once a day.</i>

434
00:24:10,658 --> 00:24:13,620
<i>[somber music plays]</i>

435
00:24:13,703 --> 00:24:17,624
<i>[Shavit] The fact that the elephant,</i>
<i>one of the most social animals there is,</i>

436
00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:20,460
<i>maybe the biggest brain</i>
<i>in the animal kingdom?</i>

437
00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:23,379
<i>And she's alone every day.</i>

438
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:28,009
<i>I'm embarrassed to say</i>
<i>I didn't even see the wrong.</i>

439
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,222
<i>[Magenta] At one point, they told me to go</i>
<i>to the freezer to get some frozen quail</i>

440
00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:33,723
<i>to feed the birds of prey</i>

441
00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:38,353
<i>and I opened the freezer</i>
<i>and it is full of tiger cubs.</i>

442
00:24:39,187 --> 00:24:42,065
<i>And I was told</i>
<i>that they had been stillborn.</i>

443
00:24:43,191 --> 00:24:48,279
<i>[Magenta] Seeing those litters come in,</i>
<i>those were all really healthy tigers.</i>

444
00:24:49,656 --> 00:24:54,536
<i>We didn't have</i>
<i>whole litters that were stillborn.</i>

445
00:24:55,286 --> 00:24:57,956
<i>But, when you'd see something</i>
<i>that seemed wrong,</i>

446
00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:02,669
<i>he'd give you a reason for it</i>
<i>and you just believed it.</i>

447
00:25:02,752 --> 00:25:05,046
<i>You just accepted it</i>
<i>because the alternative</i>

448
00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:08,841
<i>is that terrible things are going on</i>
<i>and you were involved in awful things.</i>

449
00:25:08,925 --> 00:25:11,636
<i>That's right, look at that camera.</i>
<i>Look at the camera.</i>

450
00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:14,597
<i>[Doc] We're an open book,</i>
<i>we have a fabulous facility</i>

451
00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:19,060
<i>with unprecedentedly</i>
<i>quality environments for the animals.</i>

452
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:23,898
<i>And there's nothing to see here,</i>
<i>except the great work we're able to do</i>

453
00:25:23,982 --> 00:25:28,152
<i>because of success,</i>
<i>understanding, incredibly hard work,</i>

454
00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:31,072
<i>and a team of people</i>
<i>who make it their life.</i>

455
00:25:34,284 --> 00:25:36,661
<i>[Shavit] Looking back,</i>
<i>I feel bad about telling Julie</i>

456
00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:39,247
<i>that this was the most amazing place ever.</i>

457
00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:42,166
<i>That this is a paradise for animal lovers.</i>

458
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:44,794
<i>It's not a paradise.</i>
<i>It's exactly the opposite.</i>

459
00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:48,756
<i>[male interviewer] How did Doc react</i>
<i>when he found out you two were together?</i>

460
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,133
<i>[melodic music plays]</i>

461
00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:53,052
<i>[Shavit] It is so strange</i>
<i>because he was okay with her</i>

462
00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:55,138
<i>basically living with me.</i>

463
00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:57,515
<i>Unheard of for the compound.</i>

464
00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,809
<i>But at the same time</i>
<i>that he was supportive,</i>

465
00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:02,520
<i>he was making her life…</i>

466
00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:03,479
<i>Hell.</i>

467
00:26:03,563 --> 00:26:04,897
<i>…so miserable.</i>

468
00:26:04,981 --> 00:26:08,443
<i>It was a ganging up</i>
<i>on me from every angle.</i>

469
00:26:08,526 --> 00:26:12,488
<i>[Shavit] I felt so bad for what</i>
<i>was going on, I remember speaking to him</i>

470
00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:13,573
<i>on her behalf.</i>

471
00:26:14,282 --> 00:26:17,076
<i>I remember crying talking to him.</i>

472
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,204
<i>And here I am, a grown man,</i>
<i>went to the Israeli Army,</i>

473
00:26:20,288 --> 00:26:23,291
<i>and I'm crying because I love this girl.</i>

474
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:25,710
<i>Why are you guys treating her like this?</i>

475
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:30,006
<i>He was lying to people behind our backs</i>
<i>and telling stories about people</i>

476
00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:35,178
<i>because he needed to be the only</i>
<i>source of comfort any of us were allowed.</i>

477
00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:40,266
<i>[Shavit] Doc told me that Julie's crazy,</i>
<i>that she's not right,</i>

478
00:26:40,975 --> 00:26:45,355
<i>and that I should watch it,</i>
<i>and that I'm wasting my time.</i>

479
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:51,486
<i>Part of me was like "Is she crazy?"</i>
<i>I started questioning, "Is Julie crazy?"</i>

480
00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:55,573
<i>And I was looking for reasons,</i>
<i>"Is she? Is she really?"</i>

481
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:57,408
<i>No, she's not crazy.</i>

482
00:26:57,492 --> 00:26:59,827
<i>I don't regret it because here we are</i>.

483
00:26:59,911 --> 00:27:01,788
<i>-Right. [laughs]</i>
<i>-Seventeen years later.</i>

484
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:05,041
<i>But part of me</i>
<i>feels a little guilty, there.</i>

485
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:07,293
<i>[somber instrumental music plays]</i>

486
00:27:07,377 --> 00:27:08,628
<i>[cub growls]</i>

487
00:27:08,711 --> 00:27:10,672
<i>[Doc] Dry 'em off, don't just swaddle 'em.</i>

488
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:12,840
<i>-[woman speaks indistinctly]</i>
<i>-[Doc] Shivering?</i>

489
00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:14,759
<i>No, not yet.</i>

490
00:27:15,385 --> 00:27:18,221
<i>[Radha] Sometimes your fantasy</i>

491
00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:22,600
<i>of the way that life is going to be</i>
<i>is better than the reality.</i>

492
00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:26,896
<i>[Radha] I was always independent</i>
<i>and a bit of a rebel.</i>

493
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:32,694
<i>And frankly I think that this is something</i>
<i>that Bhagavan really recognized</i>

494
00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:38,741
<i>and appreciated in me, and it backfired.</i>

495
00:27:38,825 --> 00:27:40,993
<i>[melancholy music plays]</i>

496
00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:43,287
<i>[Sachi] They started having problems.</i>

497
00:27:43,371 --> 00:27:46,124
<i>Bhagavan was, of course, very controlling.</i>

498
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:50,753
<i>She was a teenager,</i>
<i>she wanted to experiment with things.</i>

499
00:27:51,671 --> 00:27:52,505
<i>[director] Action!</i>

500
00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:57,135
<i>[Radha] When we would go and do jobs,</i>
<i>print work and also film work,</i>

501
00:27:57,218 --> 00:28:02,724
<i>often, he would have me stand in</i>
<i>for the actress or for the model.</i>

502
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,396
<i>I got offered a couple of opportunities</i>
<i>to model without the animals</i>

503
00:28:08,479 --> 00:28:14,569
<i>and he didn't allow me to do it,</i>
<i>and I was hugely disappointed.</i>

504
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:19,031
<i>[Sachi] She started to act out,</i>
<i>not doing what he said,</i>

505
00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:22,618
<i>taking the car when she wanted to.</i>

506
00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:25,663
<i>-We were being teenage girls.</i>
<i>-[cryptic music plays]</i>

507
00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:27,832
<i>[Radha] I really wanted</i>
<i>my driver's license,</i>

508
00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:32,170
<i>which is this, you know, normal</i>
<i>rite of passage for somebody my age.</i>

509
00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:34,630
<i>There was always some type of an excuse</i>

510
00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:38,634
<i>of why we couldn't get it</i>
<i>or why we couldn't practice driving.</i>

511
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:42,847
<i>I took my fake ID</i>

512
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:47,560
<i>and went</i>
<i>and got a driver's license anyway.</i>

513
00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:52,356
<i>He was extremely angry about that,</i>
<i>extremely angry.</i>

514
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,694
<i>[Radha] I began to realize this isn't</i>
<i>about safety, this is about control.</i>

515
00:28:57,361 --> 00:29:02,366
<i>[Diane] He was hoping that he would get</i>
<i>this young girl and he would mold her,</i>

516
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:04,952
<i>and she would do dishes,</i>
<i>and she would clean house.</i>

517
00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:10,583
<i>He didn't know my daughter.</i>
<i>That was not part of her plan.</i>

518
00:29:11,709 --> 00:29:14,170
<i>[Radha] After we were living together</i>
<i>and were married,</i>

519
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:19,717
<i>he had confided in me that he was</i>
<i>attracted to me when I was younger.</i>

520
00:29:20,301 --> 00:29:22,053
<i>Since I was 11.</i>

521
00:29:22,887 --> 00:29:26,140
<i>That made me extremely uncomfortable</i>

522
00:29:26,224 --> 00:29:29,101
<i>and changed</i>
<i>the dynamic of our relationship.</i>

523
00:29:29,727 --> 00:29:33,523
<i>I saw things more for what they were,</i>

524
00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:36,400
<i>and it creeped me out</i>

525
00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:43,074
<i>and I really no longer wanted</i>
<i>to be a wife to him or a lover.</i>

526
00:29:43,157 --> 00:29:46,410
<i>-[Doc] …had much to eat.</i>
<i>-Ahh! [laughs]</i>

527
00:29:46,494 --> 00:29:50,248
<i>Oh my word. And your wife lets-- Oh yuck!</i>

528
00:29:50,331 --> 00:29:53,876
<i>And your wife lets you kiss her</i>
<i>when you come home after a long day, huh?</i>

529
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,380
<i>[Radha] He was going away for jobs.</i>
<i>I wouldn't go with him.</i>

530
00:29:57,922 --> 00:30:03,261
<i>That was starting to be okay with him</i>
<i>because I think he was cycling in Dawn.</i>

531
00:30:03,886 --> 00:30:05,888
<i>This is Shankar, a two-year-old male.</i>

532
00:30:05,972 --> 00:30:08,850
<i>[Sumati] Radha did an amazing thing.</i>

533
00:30:08,933 --> 00:30:11,435
<i>I was so proud of her,</i>
<i>like, I couldn't even believe it.</i>

534
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:13,437
<i>She's 17 years old when she left him.</i>

535
00:30:13,521 --> 00:30:17,024
<i>She waited for him</i>
<i>to be off on a job with Dawn,</i>

536
00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:18,776
<i>so they were away from the house.</i>

537
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:22,822
<i>And I got a call,</i>
<i>and she said, "I'm leaving."</i>

538
00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:25,825
<i>"I'm coming out there.</i>
<i>My girlfriend and I, we're driving out."</i>

539
00:30:25,908 --> 00:30:28,870
<i>And I went, "Okay." [laughs]</i>

540
00:30:28,953 --> 00:30:30,246
<i>"Okay, come on!"</i>

541
00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:33,416
<i>[Radha] The first thing that I did</i>
<i>was go directly to the bank</i>

542
00:30:33,499 --> 00:30:36,836
<i>and close out our accounts,</i>
<i>take all the money that was left.</i>

543
00:30:36,919 --> 00:30:39,213
<i>And it wasn't</i>
<i>a substantial amount of money,</i>

544
00:30:39,297 --> 00:30:41,632
<i>but it was enough to fund the getaway.</i>

545
00:30:41,716 --> 00:30:45,094
<i>[Radha] My girlfriend and I</i>
<i>drove to the zoo.</i>

546
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:51,684
<i>I pulled as close as I could</i>
<i>to the front and I ransacked that place</i>

547
00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:54,562
<i>for everything</i>
<i>that was my personal possessions</i>

548
00:30:54,645 --> 00:30:58,149
<i>and everything</i>
<i>that I could pick up that was of value.</i>

549
00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:03,613
<i>[Radha] And it wasn't to keep the things.</i>
<i>They were basically for leverage.</i>

550
00:31:03,696 --> 00:31:06,532
<i>I had seen how he was in past breakups</i>

551
00:31:06,616 --> 00:31:09,869
<i>and I knew that I was going</i>
<i>to need something to negotiate with.</i>

552
00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:14,498
<i>[Radha] In the nightstand</i>
<i>was some other woman's perfume.</i>

553
00:31:14,582 --> 00:31:20,630
<i>And also there was a vibrator,</i>
<i>which wasn't there before. [laughs]</i>

554
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:24,550
<i>So, in the process</i>
<i>of making my great escape,</i>

555
00:31:24,634 --> 00:31:26,844
<i>and I admit it was a bit petty,</i>

556
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:30,097
<i>but I took all of the other clothes</i>
<i>that were in the closet,</i>

557
00:31:30,181 --> 00:31:34,352
<i>and I dumped out all the other perfumes,</i>
<i>and left them sitting there</i>

558
00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:38,272
<i>and I took the vibrator out,</i>
<i>turned it on, and chucked it on the bed.</i>

559
00:31:38,356 --> 00:31:40,232
<i>[Radha laughs]</i>

560
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,528
<i>And I remember thinking</i>
<i>as I was driving away,</i>

561
00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,907
<i>when we got far enough</i>
<i>where I could, kind of, think clearly,</i>

562
00:31:48,783 --> 00:31:52,495
<i>"Please, God, let there be</i>
<i>enough juice in those batteries…" [laughs]</i>

563
00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:55,373
<i>"…that when he comes home</i>
<i>to see that I've ransacked this place</i>

564
00:31:55,456 --> 00:31:56,749
<i>and taken everything,</i>

565
00:31:56,832 --> 00:31:58,960
<i>that that's still going on the bed."</i>

566
00:31:59,043 --> 00:32:02,046
<i>[mechanical humming]</i>

567
00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:06,175
<i>[dramatic instrumental music plays]</i>

568
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:12,348
<i>[Radha] My girlfriend and I took turns</i>
<i>driving from Virginia to California,</i>

569
00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:16,936
<i>and we were so high</i>
<i>on adrenaline and so frightened,</i>

570
00:32:17,019 --> 00:32:20,314
<i>that we were speeding</i>
<i>and drove straight there.</i>

571
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:26,237
<i>[Radha] We made it from Virginia</i>
<i>to California in crazy record time</i>

572
00:32:26,821 --> 00:32:30,616
<i>to the point that when I got</i>
<i>to California, I called Bhagavan</i>

573
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:33,327
<i>and he said, "Where are you?"</i>

574
00:32:33,411 --> 00:32:36,664
<i>And I said, "I'm in California."</i>
<i>He said, "That's impossible."</i>

575
00:32:36,747 --> 00:32:40,251
<i>And I was like, well, wait till he gets</i>
<i>the credit card receipts from the gas.</i>

576
00:32:40,334 --> 00:32:41,377
<i>[Radha laughs]</i>

577
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:43,212
<i>[seagulls calling]</i>

578
00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:47,216
<i>[Sumati laughs] She didn't even stop.</i>
<i>She just drove all the way to California.</i>

579
00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:51,470
<i>It was very brave! Very brave of her.</i>

580
00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:53,889
<i>Yeah, and I always</i>
<i>have admired her for that.</i>

581
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:58,936
<i>She was one of the only women</i>
<i>who got Bhagavan,</i>

582
00:32:59,854 --> 00:33:03,357
<i>so I was very proud. [laughs]</i>

583
00:33:03,941 --> 00:33:07,069
<i>Here kitty cat, Radha.</i>

584
00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:11,615
<i>Cat lovers just love you!</i>
<i>Absolutely love you.</i>

585
00:33:11,699 --> 00:33:14,493
<i>You're a great tiger queen.</i>

586
00:33:15,411 --> 00:33:17,121
<i>[dramatic music plays]</i>

587
00:33:17,204 --> 00:33:20,791
<i>[Radha] I think there might have been</i>
<i>a side of him</i>

588
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:24,545
<i>that was, kind of,</i>
<i>in some ways, almost proud of me.</i>

589
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:32,845
<i>And overall, I feel like</i>
<i>he was much better to me</i>

590
00:33:32,928 --> 00:33:37,433
<i>than a lot of the other women.</i>

591
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:39,977
<i>[somber instrumental music plays]</i>

592
00:33:40,061 --> 00:33:41,187
<i>Yeah.</i>

593
00:33:41,270 --> 00:33:43,105
<i>[birds and insects chirping]</i>

594
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:45,816
<i>[Sumati] She was a lot stronger</i>
<i>than I was,</i>

595
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:50,362
<i>but when I got pregnant with Tilakam,</i>
<i>that is what saved me, truthfully.</i>

596
00:33:50,446 --> 00:33:56,160
<i>[emotionally] Because for some reason,</i>
<i>I could tolerate the abuse</i>

597
00:33:56,243 --> 00:34:00,414
<i>and the lying and the psychological</i>
<i>manipulation for myself, somehow.</i>

598
00:34:00,998 --> 00:34:06,087
<i>[Sumati] But I started realizing</i>
<i>that I did not want that for my child.</i>

599
00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:08,339
<i>I did not want my child</i>

600
00:34:08,422 --> 00:34:12,093
<i>to grow up with somebody</i>
<i>who would touch another human in anger.</i>

601
00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:15,763
<i>He used to say,</i>
<i>"If you leave me, I'll kill you."</i>

602
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,307
<i>He used to say it all the time.</i>

603
00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:21,435
<i>I know why he did it,</i>
<i>it's because he was--</i>

604
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,563
<i>he couldn't have somebody out there</i>
<i>that knew his secrets.</i>

605
00:34:25,648 --> 00:34:27,608
<i>I always had the feeling</i>

606
00:34:27,691 --> 00:34:31,195
<i>that he would have no problem</i>
<i>killing another human being.</i>

607
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:35,324
<i>Mark Topping's death</i>
<i>was very suspicious to me.</i>

608
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:38,661
<i>You know, I just-- It was very</i>
<i>convenient. Let's say that.</i>

609
00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:43,040
<i>[emotionally] You know, I turned down</i>
<i>this interview many times.</i>

610
00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:45,960
<i>And the reason I turned it down was that</i>

611
00:34:46,043 --> 00:34:49,046
<i>I've spent my entire life</i>
<i>trying to forget about those people.</i>

612
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:55,177
<i>But it suddenly occurred to me</i>
<i>that I owed this to Mark</i>

613
00:34:55,678 --> 00:35:00,432
<i>and that someone had to speak for him</i>
<i>and had to be his voice</i>

614
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:03,144
<i>because he can't speak for himself today.</i>

615
00:35:03,227 --> 00:35:05,271
<i>[melancholy music plays]</i>

616
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:06,272
<i>[birds chirping]</i>

617
00:35:06,355 --> 00:35:10,901
<i>[Dave Topping] I got a text message,</i>
<i>"Oh, my God. Call me right away."</i>

618
00:35:10,985 --> 00:35:15,030
<i>"Have you seen this show </i>Tiger King<i>?"</i>
<i>I said, "No. What do you mean?"</i>

619
00:35:15,114 --> 00:35:16,031
<i>"What's </i>Tiger King<i>?"</i>

620
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:19,326
<i>I pulled it up and I started… [trilling]</i>

621
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:20,452
<i>…looking for Mark,</i>

622
00:35:20,536 --> 00:35:25,082
<i>and at 31 minutes and 52 seconds,</i>
<i>I think, into episode one,</i>

623
00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:27,459
<i>there's two tigers</i>
<i>in the hot tub and Bhagavan.</i>

624
00:35:27,543 --> 00:35:30,087
<i>And one of the tigers goes to jump out,</i>

625
00:35:30,171 --> 00:35:32,214
<i>and there he is, there's Mark,</i>

626
00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:36,552
<i>for one and a half seconds, coming in</i>
<i>to grab the tiger that's jumping out.</i>

627
00:35:37,928 --> 00:35:40,639
<i>[Becky Opalka] It was exciting</i>
<i>to see my friend</i>

628
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:43,350
<i>on film after all these years.</i>

629
00:35:43,434 --> 00:35:47,313
<i>I knew instantly</i>
<i>and he was only in profile.</i>

630
00:35:47,396 --> 00:35:52,902
<i>I mean, imagine--</i>
<i>Imagine that somebody that was your friend</i>

631
00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:55,613
<i>and you really cared about,</i>
<i>to see it after…</i>

632
00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:59,450
<i>I mean, you have to understand</i>
<i>it's been 32 years since he died.</i>

633
00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:03,621
<i>Dah! Look, Mom, I can float on the water!</i>

634
00:36:03,704 --> 00:36:04,830
<i>Bam!</i>

635
00:36:05,456 --> 00:36:07,291
<i>[Becky] We never really knew</i>
<i>the full story</i>

636
00:36:07,374 --> 00:36:09,084
<i>of what that day even was like.</i>

637
00:36:09,168 --> 00:36:10,294
<i>What happened.</i>

638
00:36:10,377 --> 00:36:11,337
<i>[Mark pants]</i>

639
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,924
<i>I think I reached out to you</i>
<i>because I was hoping you could find out.</i>

640
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,468
<i>[somber music plays]</i>

641
00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:21,263
<i>[Steven] They had had a fight</i>
<i>the night before and the next day,</i>

642
00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:23,599
<i>Bhagavan is shaken.</i>

643
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:28,562
<i>And you can tell that something</i>
<i>instantly was very wrong.</i>

644
00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:31,190
<i>And I said, "What happened?"</i>

645
00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:35,861
<i>And he said,</i>
<i>Mark slipped and fell off the rocks,</i>

646
00:36:35,945 --> 00:36:39,698
<i>and hit his head</i>
<i>on the rocks below, and died instantly.</i>

647
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:44,328
<i>I felt in my heart</i>
<i>that he wasn't telling me the truth</i>

648
00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:47,456
<i>and it's been</i>
<i>driving me crazy for 30 years.</i>

649
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,334
<i>Since the day that man died, I have said,</i>

650
00:36:50,834 --> 00:36:53,837
<i>"This is really fishy.</i>
<i>What happened to him?"</i>

651
00:36:53,921 --> 00:36:56,382
<i>[man] We do have another, uh…</i>

652
00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:57,383
<i>[music crescendos]</i>

653
00:36:58,634 --> 00:37:02,638
<i>[moody guitar music plays]</i>