1 00:00:19,103 --> 00:00:23,816 Doc, how pleased are you with {\an8}Tiger King's depiction of you? 2 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:26,277 This is not a documentary. 3 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,445 {\an8}Not a documentary. 4 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:30,573 It's fake. It's a silly fake show. 5 00:00:30,656 --> 00:00:34,452 An incredible wild ride of a fanticiful tale. 6 00:00:35,536 --> 00:00:37,872 [John Reinke] Doc Antle hated Tiger King. 7 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:40,666 He thought he was misrepresented in a bunch of lies. 8 00:00:40,750 --> 00:00:43,294 [Doc] They hid the fact that this facility 9 00:00:43,377 --> 00:00:46,130 is the Ritz-Carlton of keeping big cats. 10 00:00:46,214 --> 00:00:50,134 No one's even close to the grandeur and beauty of this facility. 11 00:00:50,927 --> 00:00:55,264 [Joe Exotic] It's an illusion. He creates an illusion for people to believe. 12 00:00:55,890 --> 00:01:01,104 I haven't spoke to Doc since this came out but he's not happy about it. 13 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:05,191 [Barbara Fisher] Doc is a very skilled con artist. 14 00:01:05,274 --> 00:01:08,319 He thinks that he's smarter than the rest of the world 15 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:11,823 and he designs his environment around him to confirm that. 16 00:01:12,657 --> 00:01:14,909 [Barbara] He creates his own truth always. 17 00:01:14,992 --> 00:01:16,119 {\an8}[motor whirring] 18 00:01:16,202 --> 00:01:18,913 {\an8}[Barbara] He doesn't live in a world where people challenge him. 19 00:01:18,996 --> 00:01:21,207 He doesn't-- He's not used to that anymore. 20 00:01:21,290 --> 00:01:25,336 The silly little girl Barbara Fisher, that bitch is on there talking, saying, 21 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:29,132 {\an8}"They forced me to get a boob job after a month." Like, are you mad? 22 00:01:29,215 --> 00:01:31,968 She was obsessed with having boobs. 23 00:01:32,552 --> 00:01:35,471 Those boobs didn't live here, she's living out there, 24 00:01:35,555 --> 00:01:38,724 test driving them on every Tom, Dick, and Harry she can find. 25 00:01:38,808 --> 00:01:39,684 [host laughs] 26 00:01:39,767 --> 00:01:41,894 -That's why she's pregnant all the time. -Oh, fuck. 27 00:01:41,978 --> 00:01:46,315 In terms of what he said about me, it's pure misogyny, that's what it is. 28 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:48,067 [somber melodic music plays] 29 00:01:48,151 --> 00:01:53,239 [Barbara] Since Tiger King, we had people coming by the house, recognizing the dog. 30 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:58,202 Just the fact that everybody probably could figure out where I lived 31 00:01:58,286 --> 00:02:00,496 and that means Doc knew where I lived. 32 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:04,333 That was scary to me, so we just went out into the deep country 33 00:02:04,417 --> 00:02:06,002 and that's where we remain. 34 00:02:06,878 --> 00:02:10,882 [Barbara] Doc has gotten away with this for so long, he thinks he's bulletproof. 35 00:02:11,382 --> 00:02:16,888 But after Tiger King, all these people contacted me with their own stories. 36 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:20,975 I knew that if I came forward, other people would too. 37 00:02:21,058 --> 00:02:22,351 [dramatic music plays] 38 00:02:22,435 --> 00:02:24,228 [Barbara] There is safety in numbers. 39 00:02:28,399 --> 00:02:31,819 [Barbara] Maybe he doesn't think that you'll look back into his past. 40 00:02:33,362 --> 00:02:36,574 But what's going on with Doc won't survive in sunlight. 41 00:02:37,533 --> 00:02:38,451 [music crescendos] 42 00:02:47,001 --> 00:02:50,087 [mysterious music plays] 43 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:59,096 [guide] Good morning! It's nice and warm today, isn't it? 44 00:02:59,180 --> 00:03:01,682 -[crowd] Yeah! -[guide] Just a couple rules on it. 45 00:03:01,766 --> 00:03:04,393 No cameras are going to be allowed at all today. 46 00:03:04,477 --> 00:03:05,978 This is your final warning. 47 00:03:06,062 --> 00:03:09,774 If we see recording or taking pictures, you will be asked to leave. 48 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,487 I'm Dr. Bhagavan Antle, director here at Myrtle Beach Safari. 49 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,823 {\an8}Myrtle Beach Safari is an incredible wildlife encounter 50 00:03:17,907 --> 00:03:21,535 where you get to have an up-close, interactive experience 51 00:03:21,619 --> 00:03:24,163 with a variety of incredible exotic animals 52 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:27,583 up-close, uncaged and unbelievable interaction. 53 00:03:28,918 --> 00:03:30,169 [insects chirping] 54 00:03:30,253 --> 00:03:31,087 [crowd laughs] 55 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:36,175 A handful of people in the world get to have an eagle living in your house. 56 00:03:36,259 --> 00:03:38,469 Sitting on the glove watching Game of Thrones. 57 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:40,972 That doesn't happen a whole lot for a lot of people. 58 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:45,810 When I was 12 years old, I got a photo taken in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. 59 00:03:45,893 --> 00:03:49,897 I looked at my mom and said, "This is what I want to do for the rest of my life." 60 00:03:49,981 --> 00:03:54,652 And when senior year came around, I called up Doc Antle and I said, 61 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:56,612 "Please let me come volunteer for you," 62 00:03:56,696 --> 00:03:59,365 and he said, "Well, how soon can you move here?" 63 00:03:59,949 --> 00:04:05,288 And it was like I'd gotten the golden ticket for American Idol. 64 00:04:05,371 --> 00:04:06,664 I'm like, "Ah! Okay." 65 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:09,208 [melodic music plays] 66 00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:12,586 [Jewels] I worked for Doc Antle for seven years. 67 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:17,717 My parents were actually really happy that I was doing something 68 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,719 that I believed I wanted to do. 69 00:04:19,802 --> 00:04:23,389 I don't think they realized what I was really signing up for, 70 00:04:23,472 --> 00:04:28,728 which is just 24/7 working at a place that I can't really leave. 71 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:33,357 Barbara was the first person to come and talk to me. 72 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:37,695 Me and Barb focused a lot on training little cubs 73 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:40,656 to become walking adolescents. 74 00:04:40,740 --> 00:04:43,743 We would go to this place called Barefoot Landing every day, 75 00:04:43,826 --> 00:04:47,288 and we would do photos with tiger cubs and big cats. 76 00:04:47,371 --> 00:04:49,373 [indistinct chatter] 77 00:04:49,457 --> 00:04:53,169 [Shavit Perel] One summer, I went to call a friend of mine in Myrtle Beach, 78 00:04:53,753 --> 00:04:58,632 {\an8}and he offered me a job operating a climbing wall in Barefoot Landing. 79 00:05:00,259 --> 00:05:03,637 [Shavit] As the summer went on, I started developing relationships 80 00:05:03,721 --> 00:05:06,307 {\an8}with the people that worked at Preservation Station. 81 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:10,102 It started with Barbara, and then it was China. 82 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:13,064 Everybody looked like Crocodile Dundee. 83 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:17,735 And everybody was tan and blond and had a knife 84 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,820 and it was really impressive. 85 00:05:20,488 --> 00:05:22,281 And then eventually Doc would show up. 86 00:05:22,365 --> 00:05:24,158 He just blew me away. 87 00:05:24,909 --> 00:05:29,747 By the time we reached the end of summer, he said, "How about you come work for me?" 88 00:05:30,456 --> 00:05:32,249 I said, "I'm in." 89 00:05:33,376 --> 00:05:36,295 I stayed at the barn where the elephant was living. 90 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:41,258 So I would go to sleep with Bubbles and I would wake up with Bubbles. 91 00:05:41,342 --> 00:05:45,221 Who the heck am I to be lucky enough to be in this position? 92 00:05:45,805 --> 00:05:49,475 And then they would give me those clothes, and I got my knife. 93 00:05:49,975 --> 00:05:52,186 Now I'm looking like Crocodile Dundee, right? 94 00:05:52,269 --> 00:05:53,437 I'm the cool guy. 95 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:57,775 {\an8}And it got to the point, like, I'm living a dream. 96 00:05:59,193 --> 00:06:03,322 But everything completely turned on its head once Julie came into the picture. 97 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:06,283 I'm talking to Doc and he goes, 98 00:06:06,367 --> 00:06:09,370 "I just want to let you know, there's a couple of new girls." 99 00:06:09,453 --> 00:06:11,288 "I don't want you getting involved." 100 00:06:11,372 --> 00:06:15,292 Somebody told me, "Hey, Doc rated you a nine." 101 00:06:16,127 --> 00:06:19,922 Part of me was like, "Oh, yeah," and then part of me is like, "What?" 102 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,467 [Magenta Brooks] Women and men at Doc's compound 103 00:06:23,551 --> 00:06:25,302 were treated very differently. 104 00:06:26,011 --> 00:06:30,724 He definitely showed off his giant bed a few more times than was necessary 105 00:06:30,808 --> 00:06:32,601 to do with an employee. 106 00:06:33,436 --> 00:06:36,355 I had always wondered if I had misread things, 107 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:38,232 and then seeing Tiger King 108 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:40,693 and hearing Barbara talk, it was so cathartic. 109 00:06:40,776 --> 00:06:44,822 It was just this amazing confirmation that I didn't make this up, 110 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:47,825 and other people saw it too. [sighs] 111 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:51,328 [Magenta] I am a polyamory relationship coach 112 00:06:51,412 --> 00:06:56,083 and I've been noticing that people keep talking about Doc as being polyamorous. 113 00:06:56,667 --> 00:07:01,380 Polyamory requires respect that flows both ways. 114 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:03,048 It requires autonomy. 115 00:07:03,132 --> 00:07:06,510 And Doc is not encouraging his partners 116 00:07:06,594 --> 00:07:09,972 to create healthy relationships outside of him. 117 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,683 -It's a harem, it's not polyamory. -[cryptic music plays] 118 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:17,521 [Doc] I have my three beloved partners who've been with me for 20 years each. 119 00:07:17,605 --> 00:07:19,982 My son, my three daughters. 120 00:07:20,065 --> 00:07:20,900 [birds chirping] 121 00:07:20,983 --> 00:07:22,568 And that group of people, 122 00:07:22,651 --> 00:07:25,070 along with the peripheral characters around them, 123 00:07:25,654 --> 00:07:28,657 love doing this and plan on to continue to do it. 124 00:07:28,741 --> 00:07:32,161 So if I move to the Himalayan Mountains today, 125 00:07:32,244 --> 00:07:35,706 those guys should be able to step up and run some facsimile of it. 126 00:07:37,166 --> 00:07:40,085 [Magenta] He's got this very highly overinflated sense of self. 127 00:07:40,169 --> 00:07:42,087 He sees himself as kind of a guru. 128 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,675 And so, having followers or having animals that are 129 00:07:47,301 --> 00:07:48,594 subservient to him 130 00:07:49,094 --> 00:07:52,264 kind of bolsters that narrative. 131 00:07:52,932 --> 00:07:56,727 [Barbara] After we all changed our names, he gave a bunch of us different chains. 132 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,064 The medallion signified to all of us 133 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:04,235 this union of us all being one family. 134 00:08:04,318 --> 00:08:09,073 It's a symbol for the integral yoga that Swami Satchidananda purported. 135 00:08:09,156 --> 00:08:11,283 He was the guru that opened Woodstock. 136 00:08:11,367 --> 00:08:14,328 A picture of the big bearded guy going, "Let's start." 137 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:15,788 That's Swami Satchidananda. 138 00:08:16,288 --> 00:08:18,749 [Doc] Tons of famous people are longtime devotees. 139 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:19,959 [crowd murmurs] 140 00:08:20,042 --> 00:08:23,837 {\an8}[Barbara] He met Swamiji Satchidananda in Yogaville. 141 00:08:23,921 --> 00:08:24,880 {\an8}[eerie music plays] 142 00:08:24,964 --> 00:08:27,758 {\an8}[Barbara] All these people devoted to Swamiji 143 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:29,802 {\an8}and listening to everything he says, 144 00:08:29,885 --> 00:08:34,056 and basing every aspect of their life around him. 145 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:39,144 [Barbara] If there's somebody he idolized, it's Swamiji. 146 00:08:39,228 --> 00:08:42,481 The way he talks about him, it's beyond hero worship. 147 00:08:43,065 --> 00:08:46,068 [man] How did you go from Yogaville to being a-- 148 00:08:46,151 --> 00:08:47,736 [Doc] Once you add Yogaville, 149 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:50,948 you're dropping in this incredibly complicated, 150 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:54,952 cult-ridden, strange entity, like, "What?" 151 00:08:55,828 --> 00:08:58,205 [female voice] The Reverend Sri Swami Satchidananda 152 00:08:58,289 --> 00:09:01,625 experienced the spiritual oneness of all creation 153 00:09:02,167 --> 00:09:07,131 and dreamed of creating a shrine where that oneness could be seen and felt. 154 00:09:07,214 --> 00:09:08,882 [gently melodic music plays] 155 00:09:08,966 --> 00:09:14,388 Swami Satchidananda used to always laughingly say 156 00:09:14,471 --> 00:09:18,767 that the yoga institutes were asylums and we were all the inmates. 157 00:09:18,851 --> 00:09:22,062 And people would go, "Ha-ha-ha. That's so funny, Swamiji." 158 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:23,397 But it was true. 159 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,567 -We were having crisis times. -[tense music plays] 160 00:09:26,650 --> 00:09:31,030 People were choosing between yoga and Scientology, and I thought, 161 00:09:31,113 --> 00:09:34,575 "I wasn't raised by wolves. I am going to go with yoga." 162 00:09:34,658 --> 00:09:37,036 [Satchidananda] Everywhere there seems to be the cry. 163 00:09:37,119 --> 00:09:41,165 We hear people shouting in the name of peace, 164 00:09:41,248 --> 00:09:43,584 but they want to fight for peace. 165 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:49,840 Most of the people at Yogaville are loving, caring individuals, 166 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:53,802 who want to better themselves spiritually and want to better the world. 167 00:09:53,886 --> 00:09:55,763 [melodic music plays] 168 00:09:55,846 --> 00:09:58,641 [female voice] Yogaville is an intentional community 169 00:09:58,724 --> 00:10:02,645 where people choose to live together 170 00:10:02,728 --> 00:10:06,523 practicing yoga, vegetarian diet, meditation. 171 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:12,529 There's probably close to 250 permanent residents. 172 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:17,576 My parents met Swami Satchidananda when I was five years old, 173 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:22,706 and I started meditating myself when I was 11, by choice. 174 00:10:23,374 --> 00:10:25,459 I was doing, I don't know, 175 00:10:25,542 --> 00:10:28,462 four to six hours a day of yoga and meditation, yeah. 176 00:10:29,922 --> 00:10:35,427 We were a very peaceful, loving, accepting… 177 00:10:35,511 --> 00:10:36,804 [chuckles] …community.] 178 00:10:36,887 --> 00:10:43,018 [crowd singing indistinctly] 179 00:10:43,102 --> 00:10:45,729 Hari om, hari om, hari om. 180 00:10:45,813 --> 00:10:50,734 [female voice] People believe Swami Satchidananda is a god. 181 00:10:50,818 --> 00:10:54,279 -A Jesus Christ. He can do no wrong. -[gentle music plays] 182 00:10:54,363 --> 00:10:57,366 They would drop to the ground when he walked into the room 183 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,535 and bow to his feet. 184 00:10:59,618 --> 00:11:00,828 Kiss his feet. 185 00:11:01,704 --> 00:11:04,498 [Sachi] I watched Tiger King, and I was like, "Damn." 186 00:11:04,581 --> 00:11:07,668 "They don't even know the story before that." 187 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:13,590 Doc Antle got ideas from Swami Satchidananda. 188 00:11:13,674 --> 00:11:20,639 He was attracted to the power that he wielded over other people. 189 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:28,647 Bhagavan was a very well-known character at Yogaville. 190 00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:33,527 Swami Satchidananda loved him. He was, you know, lots of flash. 191 00:11:34,570 --> 00:11:37,197 He had Bubbles, the little baby elephant. 192 00:11:37,281 --> 00:11:38,907 [applause] 193 00:11:38,991 --> 00:11:41,285 He was like a celebrity there. 194 00:11:41,952 --> 00:11:45,289 [female announcer] Bhagavan Antle of Bhagavan's Celestial Magic. 195 00:11:45,372 --> 00:11:47,291 [mystical music plays] 196 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,625 [crowd cheering] 197 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,878 [applause] 198 00:11:50,961 --> 00:11:57,342 [Joan] He was the cute boy of the '80s. He had long dark hair, a mustache. 199 00:11:57,426 --> 00:11:59,011 He was a magic man. 200 00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:00,846 ["Magic" by Pilot plays] 201 00:12:00,929 --> 00:12:06,477 ♪ Oh, ho, ho it's magic, you know ♪ 202 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,061 [cheers and applause] 203 00:12:08,145 --> 00:12:12,065 ♪ Never believe it's not so ♪ 204 00:12:12,149 --> 00:12:17,279 ♪ It's magic, you know ♪ 205 00:12:17,362 --> 00:12:21,074 ♪ Never believe it's not so… ♪ 206 00:12:21,158 --> 00:12:24,369 [Steven Diamond] The two of us had an instant connection through magic. 207 00:12:24,453 --> 00:12:26,914 I was about 15 or 16. 208 00:12:26,997 --> 00:12:31,251 I had my own career at that time, so I was doing fairs and festivals. 209 00:12:31,335 --> 00:12:33,796 And I was very popular all up and down the East Coast. 210 00:12:34,505 --> 00:12:37,883 {\an8}Bhagavan saw me as a great way to make some money. 211 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:38,801 [camera snaps] 212 00:12:38,884 --> 00:12:43,722 [Steven] And so, right away we kind of formed this little informal partnership. 213 00:12:43,806 --> 00:12:45,974 A 50/50 plan was the deal. 214 00:12:46,934 --> 00:12:49,436 [Steven] Come down, guys! Run! 215 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,271 ["Theme from Superman" by John Williams plays] 216 00:12:51,355 --> 00:12:54,316 [Steven] He had this place called The Buckingham Zoological Park. 217 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,693 Right outside of Yogaville. 218 00:12:56,777 --> 00:13:00,739 You'd drive down this little country road and you wouldn't know that it was there 219 00:13:00,823 --> 00:13:03,450 unless you knew exactly how to find it. 220 00:13:03,534 --> 00:13:07,371 You walked through the little gate and you see this A-frame house. 221 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:10,457 It kind of looked like something a hobbit might live in. 222 00:13:10,541 --> 00:13:15,128 And immediately, as soon as you walked in, you could see an elephant in the distance, 223 00:13:15,212 --> 00:13:18,423 and you could see tigers back there, you could see lions. 224 00:13:18,507 --> 00:13:19,341 Good boy. 225 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:24,304 [Steven] In the beginning, it was such a great place. 226 00:13:24,388 --> 00:13:25,889 [soothing music plays] 227 00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:31,186 What I liked about the Buckingham Zoo was the community that Bhagavan had built. 228 00:13:32,688 --> 00:13:35,190 [man] I met Bhagavan right out of high school. 229 00:13:37,192 --> 00:13:39,987 He would do local shows around here for schools. 230 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:42,781 And then I worked with him at the Renaissance Festival. 231 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:48,745 [David] I made my living as a juggler for like 25 or 30 years. 232 00:13:48,829 --> 00:13:49,830 [motor whirring] 233 00:13:49,913 --> 00:13:51,915 [David] I'm sort of an entrepreneur. 234 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,502 I had a video business 235 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:59,798 and I used to videotape his magic show that he would perform. 236 00:13:59,882 --> 00:14:01,466 [hissing, popping] 237 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:06,096 [mystical music plays] 238 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:10,267 By the constant practice of the control of the life force, 239 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:14,521 you will not only be able to control the life force of your mind and body, 240 00:14:14,605 --> 00:14:18,400 you will also be able to control the life force of the universe, as well. 241 00:14:18,984 --> 00:14:21,695 [David] Bhagavan supposedly had psychic powers 242 00:14:21,778 --> 00:14:26,867 because he had practiced yoga and his pranayama and acquired 243 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:28,869 these superpowers. 244 00:14:28,952 --> 00:14:33,123 He would walk on coals and he would supposedly levitate things and whatnot. 245 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,708 [mysterious music plays] 246 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,044 Your body can become so fit 247 00:14:37,127 --> 00:14:41,089 that you are immune to the outside world coming in and influencing you. 248 00:14:42,174 --> 00:14:44,092 [Steven] He would create this illusion 249 00:14:44,176 --> 00:14:47,971 that if you listened to him and you followed his ways, 250 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:51,391 you would be able to do some of the same things. 251 00:14:51,475 --> 00:14:55,062 [David] These people getting paid almost nothing in promise of getting 252 00:14:55,145 --> 00:14:58,982 these super powers from Bhagavan, when he didn't really have them himself. 253 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:00,525 He was not a great magician. 254 00:15:00,609 --> 00:15:03,362 {\an8}[Doc] This is the Two of Hearts. 255 00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:05,697 {\an8}[David] Ninety-eight percent accuracy. 256 00:15:05,781 --> 00:15:07,115 [muffled laughter] 257 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:10,827 It was horrible. [laughs] I mean, it just-- It was horrible. 258 00:15:10,911 --> 00:15:14,748 But people liked it because he was the cool guy with the tigers. 259 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:17,834 [melodic synth music plays] 260 00:15:26,593 --> 00:15:30,722 These things are nothing in comparison to the accomplishments… 261 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:35,811 of the thoughts-- of the control of the thoughts and emotions of the mind. 262 00:15:35,894 --> 00:15:38,438 They are but a drop in the ocean by comparison. 263 00:15:39,523 --> 00:15:43,318 The guru gave Bhagavan all of his teachings, the yoga teachings. 264 00:15:43,402 --> 00:15:47,364 This philosophy and psychology of how to approach the world. 265 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,408 [sitar music plays] 266 00:15:49,491 --> 00:15:53,161 [Joy] I still love the yoga teachings, 267 00:15:53,245 --> 00:15:56,832 but the experience in retrospect 268 00:15:57,624 --> 00:16:00,669 taught me so much about how 269 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:06,550 to be aware of a cult-type approach, 270 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:11,972 of wanting to attract people for the purpose of power or greed, 271 00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:14,016 and giving… 272 00:16:15,183 --> 00:16:20,063 the feeling that you're going to receive something that isn't possible to get. 273 00:16:20,147 --> 00:16:21,565 [eerie music plays] 274 00:16:21,648 --> 00:16:23,775 [Joy] He had complete control. 275 00:16:23,859 --> 00:16:28,196 We had to wear a certain type of clothing, we had to eat a certain type of food. 276 00:16:29,114 --> 00:16:30,741 I mean, you give everything. 277 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:37,414 You give not just your material possessions, but your whole belief system. 278 00:16:38,290 --> 00:16:42,252 One day, you'll be surprised how obedient your mind is. 279 00:16:43,712 --> 00:16:48,759 One will have a body of all health and vitality, free from disease. 280 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:51,928 It will make the mind calm, clear, and dynamic. 281 00:16:52,012 --> 00:16:57,059 [Joy] Bhagavan learned how to use the teachings in a manipulative way. 282 00:16:57,768 --> 00:17:00,270 [Steven] To be part of the zoo, 283 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:03,648 you give up your entire life, you give up your name, 284 00:17:03,732 --> 00:17:07,194 you give up your world, you give up your family, your friends. 285 00:17:07,277 --> 00:17:12,324 The tigers become the first priority to the exclusion of everything else. 286 00:17:12,407 --> 00:17:17,621 And he's always been that way, and it's just a way of getting free labor. 287 00:17:18,205 --> 00:17:20,290 [guide] Being in the presence of a big cat 288 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:22,167 can be a life-transforming event. 289 00:17:22,876 --> 00:17:24,711 When Doc started building his facility, 290 00:17:24,795 --> 00:17:29,091 he wanted to embody, like, a Yogaville type of environment, 291 00:17:29,174 --> 00:17:33,595 where he's, kind of, the leader of the group 292 00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:37,599 and everyone's working for a greater cause, working with animals, 293 00:17:37,682 --> 00:17:39,434 and also incorporating yoga. 294 00:17:39,518 --> 00:17:40,811 [melodic music plays] 295 00:17:40,894 --> 00:17:42,771 [male interviewer] Do you practice yoga? 296 00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:47,192 Cult, cult, cult alarm, um… [chuckles] 297 00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:50,487 Myself, I have practiced yoga throughout my life, I've practiced… 298 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:53,907 Myself, I've practiced martial arts from the time I was very young. 299 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:55,700 I've practiced throughout my life. 300 00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:59,412 I always tell my staff that they should go and practice yoga 301 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:01,957 so they get a steadiness of mind and body. 302 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,458 [pensive music plays] 303 00:18:03,542 --> 00:18:09,923 [Shavit] It makes so much sense to use those characteristics of the guru 304 00:18:10,507 --> 00:18:15,512 to basically create a culture where you're like God. 305 00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:19,808 [high-pitched growl] 306 00:18:19,891 --> 00:18:23,895 [Doc] They come as teenagers and decades later they're still here, 307 00:18:23,979 --> 00:18:28,400 because there is a fulfillment from spending time with wildlife. 308 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:29,317 [growling] 309 00:18:29,401 --> 00:18:30,277 There's a song, 310 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:32,863 "I'm on a vacation because I love my occupation." 311 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:35,740 "If you don't love what you're doing, change your station." 312 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:37,367 It's perfect. It's a perfect song. 313 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:38,994 [insects chirping] 314 00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:44,457 Bhagavan definitely had the desire to create his own following, 315 00:18:44,541 --> 00:18:47,335 and he did and he was very good at it. 316 00:18:47,419 --> 00:18:48,545 [birds chirping] 317 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:51,506 [Steven] I met Joe a couple times at his zoo. 318 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:55,177 and I was shocked at what I was seeing, 319 00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:58,388 because in every way it was a poor man's version, 320 00:18:58,471 --> 00:19:00,891 it was a copy of what Bhagavan had built. 321 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,477 This is what we are going to create. 322 00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:06,229 Press play. 323 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:10,650 [dramatic instrumental music plays] 324 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:13,820 [Joe] I want you to look at the landscaping here. 325 00:19:13,904 --> 00:19:20,076 One man does this entire park because he takes pride in it. 326 00:19:21,077 --> 00:19:23,830 The staff take pride in what they do. 327 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:28,460 Joe tried to make his park look exactly like Doc Antle's. 328 00:19:28,543 --> 00:19:30,629 Everything was about Doc Antle. 329 00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:35,800 {\an8}We will buy safari-looking clothes 330 00:19:35,884 --> 00:19:39,137 so you feel like you work in a jungle atmosphere. 331 00:19:39,221 --> 00:19:43,600 It's very simple, you get up in the morning, you get dressed, 332 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:47,103 you come to work with a shiny, sparkly attitude. 333 00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:50,607 [Joe] Until you can get some self-discipline, 334 00:19:51,608 --> 00:19:53,235 we can never do this. 335 00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:57,364 I have my own following and people. It's called the Temple of the Beast. 336 00:19:57,447 --> 00:20:02,619 [Joe] We're a nondenominational church here at the G.W. Zoo, and I'm Pastor Joe. 337 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,330 And if you would like to get married with tigers, 338 00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:07,540 we can decorate and do it all 339 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:09,251 just for you. 340 00:20:09,334 --> 00:20:12,504 We are here today in the sanctuary of the Church of the Beast 341 00:20:12,587 --> 00:20:15,674 where the sky is our ceiling and the grass is our floor. 342 00:20:15,757 --> 00:20:17,092 [gentle music plays] 343 00:20:17,175 --> 00:20:21,930 [Jewels] People like Joe Exotic and Doc Antle love dressing in costumes. 344 00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:24,724 That's their thing, that's what they love to do is boast, 345 00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:28,603 "I'm Tiger King with all these, you know, beautiful women around me 346 00:20:28,687 --> 00:20:31,564 that all have big boobs and all dressed in leather." 347 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,860 I can't believe I was actually okay with wearing those costumes. 348 00:20:36,611 --> 00:20:40,198 I think the one thing that I said absolutely not is not putting on tights. 349 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:43,285 [dramatic instrumental music plays] 350 00:20:43,368 --> 00:20:46,204 [Barbara] I've been deep into Bhagavan's closet before, 351 00:20:46,288 --> 00:20:50,083 and you can find the most insane pieces of clothing. 352 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:54,629 This is the Renaissance Fair outfit. I was proud of my chain mail halter top. 353 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:59,467 [male voice] King Richard's Faire! Weekends, September 4 through October 24. 354 00:21:00,427 --> 00:21:03,138 [Steven] Renaissance Fairs are this gathering 355 00:21:03,221 --> 00:21:06,016 of thousands of people that come 356 00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:08,852 and all the performers and everybody that works at the fair, 357 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:12,397 they're all dressed up in these medieval type costumes. 358 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,319 And there's usually a swordsmith there, and there will be jugglers, 359 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,280 and there will be any type of performer 360 00:21:20,363 --> 00:21:24,367 that might have lived back in medieval times. 361 00:21:24,909 --> 00:21:29,873 Whenever we went to Renaissance Fairs, Bhagavan was kind of on the prowl, 362 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,751 searching for girls. 363 00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:35,545 There's no greater pick-up line in the world than, 364 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,255 "Do you want to pet my tiger?" 365 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,426 [Magenta] That's how I met him. 366 00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:45,388 I was traveling from state to state doing Renaissance Fairs 367 00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:49,726 and I was walking my ferret through the forest area 368 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,771 and ran smack into a guy walking a lion. 369 00:21:52,854 --> 00:21:56,900 Right now, he is gaining almost a pound every single day. 370 00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,319 I said, "Do you ever hire people?" 371 00:21:59,402 --> 00:22:03,698 And a week later I was hauling elephant poop. I had moved in. 372 00:22:04,616 --> 00:22:06,326 [Magenta] He can talk a good game. 373 00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:09,287 When he would talk about the requirements of the job, 374 00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:13,083 like how many hours we had to put in, how dedicated we had to be, 375 00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:15,043 it really was framed in a very, you know, 376 00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:18,713 "These animals come first and it's going to be hard work 377 00:22:18,797 --> 00:22:20,423 and it's going to be difficult, 378 00:22:20,507 --> 00:22:22,550 and you've got to be strong to manage this." 379 00:22:22,634 --> 00:22:25,553 And that appealed to me greatly. 380 00:22:25,637 --> 00:22:27,138 [music crescendos] 381 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:31,434 [Joy] Bhagavan knew how to work people beautifully, 382 00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:36,731 because he got his beginnings of learning from Swami Satchidananda. 383 00:22:36,815 --> 00:22:37,816 [mystic music plays] 384 00:22:37,899 --> 00:22:42,112 [Joy] In order to be a Swami you take vows of celibacy, 385 00:22:42,195 --> 00:22:46,449 obedience, selfless service, and poverty. 386 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:51,162 He was Swami Satchidananda and he had taken those vows, 387 00:22:51,246 --> 00:22:54,749 but they didn't apply to him anymore because now he was enlightened. 388 00:22:54,833 --> 00:23:01,089 Yoga expects one to reform himself. 389 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:06,761 [Joy] During the years that I was there, the guru had sexualized the relationship 390 00:23:06,845 --> 00:23:08,471 with many of the disciples. 391 00:23:08,555 --> 00:23:10,265 [Satchidananda speaks inaudibly] 392 00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:12,642 [Joy] With any kind of sexual abuse, 393 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:16,855 they bring you in, and they make you feel like you're going to be… 394 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:18,189 [pensive music plays] 395 00:23:18,273 --> 00:23:20,775 …friends with this powerful person. 396 00:23:20,859 --> 00:23:25,488 So, what they would want gets changed. 397 00:23:25,572 --> 00:23:29,325 No, they wouldn't want an old man with a long beard 398 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:32,287 to be fondling them and having intercourse with him. 399 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:33,329 Jerking him off. 400 00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,334 [interviewer] How many women was he involved with? 401 00:23:39,002 --> 00:23:42,255 Oh, I don't know. I bet there are some that never came forth. 402 00:23:42,338 --> 00:23:43,256 Um… 403 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,801 But I would say at least a dozen. 404 00:23:46,885 --> 00:23:50,096 [dramatic instrumental music plays] 405 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:53,183 [Joy] They believed that this made them special somehow, 406 00:23:53,266 --> 00:23:57,437 that this close intimate relationship gave them 407 00:23:58,104 --> 00:24:01,274 a certain connection to God. 408 00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:06,154 And Bhagavan was emulating the guru. 409 00:24:06,905 --> 00:24:09,365 [Joy] Women were very attracted to Bhagavan. 410 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,077 [Sumati] His first wife was "Brahmi" Betsy. 411 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:16,831 There was, you know, only "Brahmi" for a little while on her own. 412 00:24:18,374 --> 00:24:20,502 [Joan] "Brahmi" was a beautiful woman. 413 00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:24,130 [Glen] She was beautiful. Slender, long dark hair. 414 00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:28,551 [David] They seemed like a happy married couple, in a sense. 415 00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:31,846 And Bhagavan used to use them as an example about how happy they were 416 00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:35,558 and what a wonderful couple they were, which is sort of interesting. 417 00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:38,269 I think it was not her lifestyle. 418 00:24:38,353 --> 00:24:41,314 You know, Bhagavan being interested in multiple women. 419 00:24:41,397 --> 00:24:42,982 [somber music plays] 420 00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:45,610 [man] I have to believe that's part of why my sister is 421 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:47,403 where she's at now in her life. 422 00:24:47,487 --> 00:24:49,072 I mean, it has to be. 423 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:51,032 She never dealt with it. 424 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:54,911 And she's just been destroying her life, slowly but surely. 425 00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:58,957 [Glen] She's had a problem with drinking for a long time. 426 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,667 She almost died a few years ago. 427 00:25:01,876 --> 00:25:03,294 It's a shame because she's-- 428 00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:06,839 [sighs] I'm getting emotional. 429 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:12,554 [Betsy] I'll probably never get over it. My mother always likes to bring that up. 430 00:25:12,637 --> 00:25:16,349 She goes, "He was the love of your life." I'm like, "Yeah, he was." 431 00:25:16,432 --> 00:25:17,267 [laughs] 432 00:25:18,434 --> 00:25:20,186 Nobody's ever gonna change that. 433 00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:21,771 [insects chirping] 434 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,773 [mysterious music plays] 435 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:27,235 [Betsy] Me and Kevin, that was his name back then, 436 00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:30,154 I met him in high school. 437 00:25:30,238 --> 00:25:35,451 And before we started dating, my boyfriend lived next door to him. 438 00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:38,830 So I used to go to Kevin's house to spend time with my boyfriend, 439 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:41,374 'cause Kevin's mother didn't care. 440 00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:42,875 She was like, "Cool Mom." 441 00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:44,210 [laughs] 442 00:25:44,794 --> 00:25:48,256 {\an8}But, he broke up with me so that he could be with Kevin's mother. 443 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,300 [interviewer] Didn't people think it was strange 444 00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:53,011 that she started having sex with your teenage boyfriend? 445 00:25:53,094 --> 00:25:56,097 Only the people that knew about it, which was only us. 446 00:25:56,180 --> 00:26:00,059 She felt bad because she said, "Well, I know you're upset about this." 447 00:26:00,143 --> 00:26:02,770 "Why don't you try dating Kevin?" 448 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:05,898 Meaning her son. And I did. 449 00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:08,651 [Betsy] Of course I fell in love. 450 00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:11,154 I wanted to be with him all the time. 451 00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:12,363 [somber music plays] 452 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:15,992 [Betsy] He was very confident and really beautiful. 453 00:26:16,868 --> 00:26:18,953 [Glen] My sister used to bring him to the house. 454 00:26:19,037 --> 00:26:21,664 {\an8}I don't think my dad liked him a lot in the beginning. 455 00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:24,834 {\an8}I know Kevin dropped out of high school, maybe that was part of it. 456 00:26:25,418 --> 00:26:26,794 But he had long hair. [laughs] 457 00:26:26,878 --> 00:26:30,173 That was-- My dad didn't really like that. 458 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:32,175 [Betsy] Oh, he was a rebel. 459 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,427 He always wanted to be in trouble. 460 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:36,220 [Betsy laughs, sighs] 461 00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:38,681 He actually sought out trouble. [chuckles] 462 00:26:39,974 --> 00:26:42,644 [Betsy] After we got married, we changed our names 463 00:26:42,727 --> 00:26:45,855 because we went to this one-month retreat at Yogaville 464 00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:48,566 to become certified yoga instructors. 465 00:26:49,067 --> 00:26:51,653 And Swami Satchidananda gave us a new name. 466 00:26:51,736 --> 00:26:53,988 I went from Betsy to Brahmi. 467 00:26:54,072 --> 00:26:59,619 And he went from Kevin Antle to Sri Mahatmayavi Bhagavan Antle. 468 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,287 Pretty big change. 469 00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:03,039 [mysterious music plays] 470 00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:07,418 [Sumati] Bhagavan Antle in 1982 was very good-looking. 471 00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:09,087 He was very charming. 472 00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:13,716 He had a lot of bling, you know, he drove a DeLorean and a Porsche. 473 00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:20,723 [Sumati] I first met him in the Lotus Lake, 474 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:23,685 which is a lake around the Lotus Temple in Yogaville. 475 00:27:23,768 --> 00:27:25,269 I remember it very clearly 476 00:27:25,353 --> 00:27:31,526 because he hit on several of the teenage girls that day in the lake. 477 00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:34,696 and I talked to them about it and asked them like, 478 00:27:34,779 --> 00:27:38,157 "Did he touch your butt or boobs?" 479 00:27:38,241 --> 00:27:40,993 "I mean, did that happen to you guys too, or was it just me?" 480 00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:42,620 [interviewer] How old was he? 481 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:46,624 He was 22, yeah, and I was 14. 482 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:48,751 [cryptic music plays] 483 00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:51,587 [Sumati] That's not legal in the state of Virginia. 484 00:27:51,671 --> 00:27:55,216 He spent a long time, he spent, like, six months 485 00:27:55,299 --> 00:28:00,555 sending me poetry, getting me flowers, just really wooing me. 486 00:28:02,515 --> 00:28:06,102 [Sachi] I remember having some outings with Bhagavan, 487 00:28:06,769 --> 00:28:10,982 you know, to the movies, or, you know, out to dinner. 488 00:28:11,065 --> 00:28:14,485 He had all the toys. I remember playing with a lot of toys. 489 00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:19,323 They had a Jacuzzi. We'd play with the baby animals a lot. 490 00:28:19,407 --> 00:28:23,411 When you were over there, you were in his world. 491 00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:30,752 [Sachi] I minimized everything that went on, 492 00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:34,964 but now that I look at it as an adult, 493 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:38,509 I was kind of passed on… 494 00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:43,306 to a person who worked with Bhagavan. 495 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:45,683 I felt a pressure… 496 00:28:47,101 --> 00:28:51,981 to have a sexual relationship with this person, 497 00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:54,650 and he was 30 years old. 498 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:56,027 I was 15. 499 00:28:56,110 --> 00:28:58,613 [somber instrumental music plays] 500 00:28:58,696 --> 00:29:02,366 [Sachi] At the time, I thought it was my choice and I played the role. 501 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:07,413 I didn't have the tools to make those kind of choices. 502 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:13,252 It was part of the culture, I think, that Bhagavan cultivated. 503 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,297 There was a lot of photo shoots. 504 00:29:18,007 --> 00:29:21,010 [Sachi] There were some inappropriate photos, definitely. 505 00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,680 And we were underage. 506 00:29:24,764 --> 00:29:26,098 Naked photos. 507 00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:34,106 [Sumati] He did a nude photo shoot of me and a boa constrictor. 508 00:29:34,774 --> 00:29:40,446 And luckily his wife "Brahmi" found those pictures and burned them. 509 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:44,659 Otherwise, there could be nude photos of me floating around who knows where. 510 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:48,621 [Sachi] He preyed after young women 511 00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:53,584 and it was important to him that they were virgins. 512 00:29:54,627 --> 00:29:58,464 My 15th birthday was the first time that we slept together, 513 00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:03,386 but before we slept together, we had a spiritual wedding ceremony 514 00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:06,097 in his meditation room upstairs at his house. 515 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:09,600 And he put a wedding band on me, 516 00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:13,437 and I was supposed to be his wife, and he was supposed to be my husband, 517 00:30:13,521 --> 00:30:15,106 even though he was already married. 518 00:30:16,107 --> 00:30:21,320 {\an8}He told me she was totally polyamorous and totally into an open marriage, 519 00:30:21,404 --> 00:30:25,032 and this was all copacetic, and that was not the case. 520 00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,703 The worst part is that the other women that lived around there, 521 00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:31,330 they actually thought that I condoned it. 522 00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:34,542 They were like, "Oh, I thought you were okay with it." 523 00:30:35,459 --> 00:30:37,920 I was like, "Are you kidding me? Of course not." 524 00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:41,132 You have to remember I was always the last person to know. 525 00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:46,262 [Sumati] He took me on a honeymoon down to the Virgin Islands 526 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:49,682 with "Brahmi" Betsy, his first wife, 527 00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:51,767 which was really awkward for me 528 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:54,312 because "Brahmi" and I weren't talking about 529 00:30:54,395 --> 00:30:56,689 the fact that I was in a relationship with him. 530 00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:59,442 [Betsy] I didn't know it was Sumati's honeymoon. 531 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:02,069 I was spending all of my time snorkeling. 532 00:31:02,153 --> 00:31:04,989 Apparently he was spending all day screwing women. 533 00:31:05,072 --> 00:31:06,407 But I didn't know that. 534 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,075 [somber music plays] 535 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:10,536 He would just reassure me that she was okay with it. 536 00:31:11,871 --> 00:31:13,831 [Betsy chuckles] One of his many lies. 537 00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:15,499 But she was really young 538 00:31:15,583 --> 00:31:19,086 and I can imagine that she would've believed him, of course. 539 00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:23,758 [Sumati] He did one of those power and control maneuvers 540 00:31:23,841 --> 00:31:25,426 where he isolated me. 541 00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:31,766 I moved out of my parents' house at 15 and moved on to the Yogaville property. 542 00:31:32,350 --> 00:31:35,227 [Betsy] You know, he was pretty careful about picking teenage girls 543 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:37,563 whose parents didn't pay attention to them. 544 00:31:38,147 --> 00:31:40,483 Sumati lived in a tent right behind my house. 545 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:45,029 He would come and visit me in my tent in Yogaville sometimes. 546 00:31:47,657 --> 00:31:52,662 [Betsy] He was only interested in me as long as I looked like I was 12. 547 00:31:53,162 --> 00:31:56,082 Until the age of 30, I weighed 100 pounds. 548 00:31:56,582 --> 00:31:59,377 I had no curves, just nothing. 549 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:05,174 That's what he liked, he liked women who looked like they were still teenagers. 550 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:06,300 [somber music plays] 551 00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:10,012 [Magenta] You needed to be very, very thin. 552 00:32:10,096 --> 00:32:15,726 I was eating Doc's very restricted diet, so I was eating around 800 calories a day. 553 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:18,813 A very nutrient-light food. 554 00:32:20,022 --> 00:32:23,025 [Doc] You cannot make someone into an animal trainer. 555 00:32:23,109 --> 00:32:25,820 It takes a certain degree of mental and physical toughness. 556 00:32:25,903 --> 00:32:27,571 One needs to be light on their feet, 557 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:31,617 one needs to have a physicality of timing and understanding. 558 00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:33,494 [Magenta] I was starving. 559 00:32:34,161 --> 00:32:36,831 I was blacking out when I stood up. 560 00:32:36,914 --> 00:32:40,584 I almost got killed because you're working with wild animals and you… 561 00:32:40,668 --> 00:32:43,963 My blood pressure was so low, I'd stand up and start to black out. 562 00:32:45,089 --> 00:32:46,841 One of the volunteers saved me. 563 00:32:46,924 --> 00:32:50,886 She had been taken out for her birthday, and she comes back to me the next day, 564 00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:54,181 and she says, "You don't know what's happening to you." 565 00:32:54,724 --> 00:32:56,100 "You're being brainwashed." 566 00:32:56,183 --> 00:33:01,272 "This is what cults do when they're taking over people's psyches." 567 00:33:01,355 --> 00:33:04,525 And she says, "You've been doing this for so long, 568 00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:08,821 you don't even know how off your brain is right now." 569 00:33:08,904 --> 00:33:12,616 [cryptic instrumental music plays] 570 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,244 [Magenta] So, she says, "You have to eat." 571 00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:19,331 And she ended up chasing me around the parking lot with a Fig Newton bar, 572 00:33:19,415 --> 00:33:21,876 screaming, "It's fat-free, for fuck's sake!" 573 00:33:22,376 --> 00:33:26,964 And I refused to eat it because a Fig Newton bar was just too much, 574 00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:29,091 but I started eating carrots 575 00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:31,969 and I started thinking straight. 576 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:36,390 My brain started working a little better, and I went to Doc 577 00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:38,893 and I was like, "I want to stay for the next year." 578 00:33:38,976 --> 00:33:40,895 I was going to finish up my two-year thing. 579 00:33:41,771 --> 00:33:43,939 But I decided I didn't want the boob job. 580 00:33:44,607 --> 00:33:46,942 I decided that wasn't who I wanted to be. 581 00:33:47,568 --> 00:33:51,530 And he said, "If you're gonna look like a fat ass, you don't need the tits." 582 00:33:52,448 --> 00:33:55,534 I mean, I was still skeletal, I was still concave, 583 00:33:55,618 --> 00:33:58,287 and I thought, "Oh, I'm never going to win this game." 584 00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:00,581 "And I'm starting to believe him." 585 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:06,170 [Magenta] I felt like if I stayed, I was going to be subsumed. 586 00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:09,507 [insects and birds chirping] 587 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:11,425 [Doc] In the '80s when we started out, 588 00:34:11,509 --> 00:34:15,596 Swami Satchidananda had a new idea that was really fresh, 589 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,351 that what you act like, what you think, what you eat, shapes your health. 590 00:34:20,434 --> 00:34:23,979 You are what you eat. Please remember that. 591 00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:30,069 Most of our physical problems are caused by our food that we eat. 592 00:34:30,945 --> 00:34:34,532 Swami led you to believe that he was… 593 00:34:35,825 --> 00:34:41,831 now an enlightened being and a perfect instrument of God. 594 00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:43,165 [pensive music plays] 595 00:34:43,249 --> 00:34:47,837 [Joy] Bhagavan saw the guru as someone that could get away with everything. 596 00:34:48,796 --> 00:34:55,094 I was very close to the person who took care of Swami Satchidananda 597 00:34:55,177 --> 00:34:59,515 and she would confide in me, she would tell me that he would hit her. 598 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:04,770 If you want to punish somebody who hurts you… 599 00:35:06,897 --> 00:35:09,984 do something beautiful to that person. 600 00:35:10,067 --> 00:35:14,488 She accepted it so easily and lovingly. 601 00:35:15,072 --> 00:35:19,076 It was totally crazy, but now I think of it that way, 602 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,957 but at the time, I just put on my rosy-colored glasses, I guess. 603 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,293 [giggling] 604 00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:28,836 [indistinct chatter] 605 00:35:29,503 --> 00:35:34,466 Stop. Oh no! Flippity-floppity. You big old guy. 606 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,760 [Steven] Bhagavan didn't like it 607 00:35:36,844 --> 00:35:40,306 when someone, in any kind of way, challenged him 608 00:35:40,848 --> 00:35:42,808 and that was a problem between me and him. 609 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:48,314 If I did it in front of a group of people, there would be hell to pay. 610 00:35:48,397 --> 00:35:49,565 You got to not love me. 611 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,234 [Steven] And I learned very quickly not to go there. 612 00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:54,320 [woman] In order to get them… 613 00:35:54,403 --> 00:35:57,198 -We're trying to not let you film. -[cameraman] Sorry. Okay. 614 00:35:57,781 --> 00:36:01,410 If you come here going, "That's not fair. You didn't listen. I know the way," 615 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:04,413 we have no tolerance or time for anyone like that. 616 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:05,456 Look how calm… 617 00:36:05,539 --> 00:36:07,499 [Barbara] He had a bad temper for sure. 618 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:11,795 You do not want to have something you're attached to in front of Bhagavan 619 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:13,839 because he will torture you with that. 620 00:36:13,923 --> 00:36:16,842 -[eerie music plays] -I loved this one capuchin monkey. 621 00:36:16,926 --> 00:36:19,720 From the time that I saw her, I just was obsessed with her. 622 00:36:20,763 --> 00:36:24,850 Bhagavan knew I loved her. He liked that I was taking good care of her. 623 00:36:24,934 --> 00:36:28,729 But he did also like to torture me with the fact that I was so attached. 624 00:36:28,812 --> 00:36:33,734 In one instance in particular, he took her and put her in a freezer. 625 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:35,444 I mean, she's a little tiny baby 626 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:38,739 and he took her and put her in the freezer and closed it 627 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,285 and just stared at me, waiting for me to stop being upset… 628 00:36:43,369 --> 00:36:44,536 [chuckles] …about that 629 00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:48,457 That's what he was telling me. "I'm teaching you not to be so attached." 630 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,126 "I need you to just think about how you're feeling 631 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:54,171 with the monkey in the freezer and calm yourself down." 632 00:36:54,255 --> 00:36:55,798 [grim music plays] 633 00:36:55,881 --> 00:37:01,387 [Sachi] He was capable of doing harm more than your average person. 634 00:37:03,597 --> 00:37:07,935 He could go from very charming to very angry. 635 00:37:09,645 --> 00:37:13,357 [interviewer] Did you ever see him lose his temper in a way that was scary? 636 00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:15,776 Yes. 637 00:37:18,821 --> 00:37:21,448 With me, one time. 638 00:37:25,494 --> 00:37:27,746 [sighs] Can we stop for a second? 639 00:37:28,247 --> 00:37:30,541 Yeah. I just need a drink and… 640 00:37:33,168 --> 00:37:37,089 There were four times in four years where I thought he was going to kill me. 641 00:37:37,172 --> 00:37:40,884 He was so incredibly violent to me that I thought, "That's it." 642 00:37:41,635 --> 00:37:44,138 "He got me. This is going to be the time." 643 00:37:44,221 --> 00:37:45,222 [somber music plays] 644 00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:48,600 The first couple times was, I was going to leave him, 645 00:37:48,684 --> 00:37:50,436 it was soon in the relationship. 646 00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,522 I wanted to leave. I didn't want to be in the relationship anymore. 647 00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:57,609 [voice breaks] And he would beat me or be violent with me. 648 00:37:57,693 --> 00:38:00,529 And it scared me into staying with him. 649 00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:04,533 Choked me to the point where I passed out, 650 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:08,162 and one time, he even bragged to his girlfriends 651 00:38:08,245 --> 00:38:11,749 that he broke two of my ribs to shut me up. 652 00:38:12,416 --> 00:38:13,751 And it's true, he did. 653 00:38:15,461 --> 00:38:18,047 [Betsy] He didn't like to hit because it'd leave a scar, 654 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:22,551 so he used to strangle me because it didn't leave a mark. 655 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:24,678 [grim instrumental music plays] 656 00:38:24,762 --> 00:38:29,350 He got so mad at me when I got pregnant. He said it was my fault. 657 00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:31,310 When I started giving birth, 658 00:38:31,852 --> 00:38:36,023 somebody tracked him down, and of course he was with his girlfriend at the time, 659 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:39,485 and so then, while I'm still in labor, he calls. 660 00:38:39,568 --> 00:38:43,530 "Is it okay if I just don't show up?" And I was like, "No!" 661 00:38:44,615 --> 00:38:48,035 So what he did was he actually came and he laid on the bed next to me 662 00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:50,120 and slept while I was having a baby. 663 00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:55,084 [Betsy] Luckily, you're in so much pain that you don't think about it too much, 664 00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,669 but yeah, it was sad, but… 665 00:38:58,462 --> 00:39:01,673 That whole thing about what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? 666 00:39:02,674 --> 00:39:03,634 Well, guess what. 667 00:39:03,717 --> 00:39:07,888 There's not a whole lot of things that will happen to me worse than that. 668 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:09,431 So… 669 00:39:10,224 --> 00:39:12,851 [Betsy] As soon as the baby was born, he was gone. 670 00:39:12,935 --> 00:39:15,562 He was back on the road with his girlfriend. 671 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,357 [insects chirping] 672 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,652 [Sumati] I remember I was shocked when "Brahmi" got pregnant. 673 00:39:21,735 --> 00:39:22,820 [birds chirping] 674 00:39:22,903 --> 00:39:25,572 [Sumati] He told me he wasn't even sleeping with her. 675 00:39:25,656 --> 00:39:27,366 [somber sitar music plays] 676 00:39:27,449 --> 00:39:29,576 [Betsy] He used to tell Sumati, 677 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:33,997 "I can do some kind of voodoo magic on you and you'll never get pregnant." 678 00:39:34,915 --> 00:39:39,086 She believed he could put a spell on her and she wouldn't get pregnant. 679 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:43,424 But my daughter had just been born and she was already showing. 680 00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:48,512 [Sumati] Right before the Lotus Temple opened, 681 00:39:48,595 --> 00:39:52,891 I told Bhagavan that I was pregnant with Tilakam. 682 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,186 First he said it wasn't his child… [sighs] 683 00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:58,647 …and then he said I needed to get an abortion, 684 00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:00,691 and he tried to guilt trip me into one. 685 00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:03,610 [Doc] Tilakam's mom was a crazy teenager 686 00:40:03,694 --> 00:40:07,406 that, you know, I just happened to have been hanging out with a little too long, 687 00:40:07,489 --> 00:40:08,449 and she got pregnant. 688 00:40:08,532 --> 00:40:09,867 I drug her ass 689 00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:13,996 to the Downtown Marriott in Washington DC, and didn't follow through 690 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,457 on the birth control the way we were supposed to do it 691 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,167 and, lo and behold, baby! 692 00:40:19,001 --> 00:40:22,838 [Sumati] I called Swami Satchidananda and I finally confessed to him 693 00:40:22,921 --> 00:40:27,426 I'd been in a relationship with Bhagavan for four years and I was pregnant. 694 00:40:27,509 --> 00:40:28,594 [somber music plays] 695 00:40:29,178 --> 00:40:32,890 He basically said, "You're going to be a great mother." 696 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:37,269 He said, "If Bhagavan will marry you, he can stay in Yogaville." 697 00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:41,273 "If he continues with the women like he is now, he's gonna have to leave." 698 00:40:41,356 --> 00:40:47,321 There was a family meeting that was called to deal with this 699 00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:50,199 devastating news. 700 00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:53,243 And in the family meeting, they… 701 00:40:54,578 --> 00:40:58,040 were trying to blame the girls 702 00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:02,503 for their… wanton behavior. 703 00:41:03,295 --> 00:41:06,340 [Joan] My husband and I said, "Excuse me." 704 00:41:07,799 --> 00:41:12,888 "This is a man who was promoted by our teacher as this great Yogi, 705 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,974 and you're saying the girls should not have trusted him?" 706 00:41:16,058 --> 00:41:22,147 "That doesn't seem reasonable. It seems to me the bad guy is the adult." 707 00:41:22,231 --> 00:41:23,857 [tense music plays] 708 00:41:23,941 --> 00:41:28,237 [Sachi] There was a culture of pointing the finger at women. 709 00:41:29,196 --> 00:41:33,867 We were seducing men, that somehow it was our fault. 710 00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:36,954 All of a sudden, the community decided 711 00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:42,292 that every student, and parent, and teacher involved in the school 712 00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:44,711 should sign a pledge. 713 00:41:44,795 --> 00:41:47,130 Basically saying that they won't date. 714 00:41:47,965 --> 00:41:52,094 [Sachi] And also there's something about not questioning Swami Satchidananda. 715 00:41:52,928 --> 00:41:55,305 We felt like we were being punished. 716 00:41:55,389 --> 00:41:58,809 We needed to just cover up, shut up. 717 00:41:59,393 --> 00:42:02,563 Get permission to do… anything. 718 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,317 People of the opposite sex would not be in the same room together alone. 719 00:42:08,110 --> 00:42:12,739 And if a parent, a child, or a teacher was unwilling to sign the pledge, 720 00:42:12,823 --> 00:42:15,117 they couldn't attend or teach at the school. 721 00:42:18,704 --> 00:42:20,998 I didn't want to sign it. 722 00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,792 When I spoke out, the community 723 00:42:25,544 --> 00:42:26,712 asked me to leave. 724 00:42:27,963 --> 00:42:32,092 [Sachi] Swami Satchidananda told me directly. 725 00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:33,927 He was like, "You're a rotten apple." 726 00:42:34,595 --> 00:42:39,391 "You're going to make the other shiny, bright apples rotten, too." 727 00:42:42,686 --> 00:42:46,982 [Sachi] Being excommunicated and shunned was painful. 728 00:42:47,691 --> 00:42:52,738 My whole world was Yogaville. I didn't know anything else. 729 00:42:52,821 --> 00:42:55,699 Yogaville failed our kids 730 00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,911 by not taking a stand. 731 00:42:59,995 --> 00:43:01,955 By the time I got pregnant, 732 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,168 he was already in a relationship with another 14-year-old. 733 00:43:06,251 --> 00:43:08,795 Once you've married a 14-year-old… [scoffs] 734 00:43:09,338 --> 00:43:11,923 …what could possibly… 735 00:43:13,884 --> 00:43:15,177 hold you back? 736 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:17,804 [cryptic music plays] 737 00:43:17,888 --> 00:43:20,015 [Radha Hirsch] Never in a million years 738 00:43:20,098 --> 00:43:25,812 did I ever think I would be sharing this story publicly. [laughs] 739 00:43:28,315 --> 00:43:34,071 When I hear myself, I'm like, "Wow, it is pretty crazy." 740 00:43:34,905 --> 00:43:38,492 I was 14 and he was 25. 741 00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:45,123 My mom was wanting me to realize how inappropriate the situation was. 742 00:43:45,207 --> 00:43:47,250 And I remember him saying, 743 00:43:47,334 --> 00:43:51,380 "Don't worry, we're going to deal with it. It's all going to work out." 744 00:43:51,463 --> 00:43:53,423 "Don't worry. We're going to be together." 745 00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:57,010 Bhagavan and I were talking on the phone 746 00:43:57,094 --> 00:44:02,349 and he wanted me to give him very specifically my route to school. 747 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:08,271 We went over it and over it, and he came and pulled up next to me 748 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:10,232 in a disguise of some sort. 749 00:44:10,315 --> 00:44:15,195 He looked bizarre, like all the hair up in a hat and like, crazy funky glasses. 750 00:44:15,278 --> 00:44:21,410 And I jump in the car, I dumped my book bags in a dumpster 751 00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:22,869 and we flew off. 752 00:44:23,704 --> 00:44:27,499 In my mind, I ran away, yes, but I still, kind of, wasn't thinking 753 00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,584 that it was really an abduction. 754 00:44:29,668 --> 00:44:31,712 [sirens wailing] 755 00:44:31,795 --> 00:44:33,046 [music crescendos] 756 00:44:34,423 --> 00:44:38,427 [closing theme music playing]