- ♪ MTV ♪
- Previously on "Teen Mom: Family Reunion."
- This year, I decided we need to bring our own moms.
- Hi. - Hello.
- Hi, you guys. - Hello.
- I actually like all the girls and their mom,
except Tea and Ashley.
- There's been a lot of weird internet drama.
- I was having lunch with Briana.
I went on social media.
Briana didn't like that.
- Mind your business.
- Love for my family!
- I'm literally having a panic attack.
- OK, breathe.
- I don't find it encouraging.
I find it to be peer pressure.
[screaming]
- The reunion has literally just begun.
[upbeat music]
- Hey, girls.
Hi.
- Surprise, bitches.
"Young and Pregnant" is here.
- You can feel the negative energy
coming from Kiaya and Ashley.
- I'm not that fond of Ashley.
- I'm going to do me.
And if she wants to do me, we can do us.
And if not, she could stay away.
[dramatic music]
- ♪ Got to let you know ♪
♪ ♪
♪ All about it ♪
- Day two, we're sharing rooms with our moms.
I'm really excited that my mom is here.
I'm hoping maybe that we can kind of see
what things could be opened up and maybe, like, healed.
But also, I'm kind of nervous at the same time
because my mom can be unpredictable.
It's one of my triggers.
♪ ♪
- Day one was a lot.
It's like we were on 100.
I need day two to be at, like, a level 30.
I don't want to jump off anything.
I don't want to be in the dirt.
I don't want to see any animals.
I don't care about the trees.
Like, just sit me somewhere with a nice drink,
and I'll be happy.
♪ ♪
- [snoring]
[alarm ringing]
- I didn't get a lot of sleep last night.
It's very hard to share a room with your mom.
My mom has sleep apnea.
She'll be snoring all night.
- [snoring]
Love my mom. Love her to death.
Want to sleep separate.
- ♪ The good, good news ♪
- I just wake up extremely nauseous.
But now that I'm up, I'm extremely hungry.
♪ Boom boom, baby ♪
♪ ♪
- Good morning. - Good morning.
How are you? - Good.
There's food over there. - Fire. Fire.
The weather's beautiful.
My friends are here.
And I just can't wait to have a great time with them.
I'm tired as a mother[bleep].
But Ashley and Tea are in the kitchen
when I walk into the house.
I'm going to keep my distance.
- Mom, do you want some scrambled eggs?
- Sure.
[tense music]
- Tea tried to say good morning to me,
but I didn't say anything back.
There's no reason to.
I don't want to talk to them.
I know the type of people that they are, fake as [bleep].
[intense music]
- Hey, Maci.
- So Roxanne ignores me, and I'm just like, OK.
Hi, Maci, since you don't want to talk to me.
- I don't like looking at Ashley or Tea.
I see right through them.
They've done a lot of damage on social media.
- Roxy and Bri don't really talk to Tea and Ashley.
And Tea and Ashley don't really talk to them.
And I'm like, damn, guys, we're starting
the day off like this?
- Waking up here today in Oregon was good.
I'm super, super excited to be here with Kayla.
We're just really ready to enjoy
the experience with everybody and get to know everybody.
- Good morning.
- Hi.
- How are y'all? - Good morning, everybody.
Kiaya and Kayla are finally here.
And I'm super excited to get to know them more
and build bonds with everybody.
- I feel like for, like, a week,
I'm just going to walk around like, hey,
I jumped off a bridge. How are you?
[laughter]
Have you jumped off a bridge? Because I have.
- ♪ I just want to go out ♪
♪ I just wanna stay out ♪
♪ I just want to be out ♪
- Good morning.
- I ate two plates [indistinct].
- I'm not a morning person.
- Neither am I. [indistinct chatter]
I got my daughter at school.
I'm like, you hungry?
Go get yourself a little snack.
[laughter]
- I am excited to, like, get to meet the girls
and get to know them better.
I think they could be good role models in certain things
and have some good advice.
- Yeah, he has the kids.
- I don't really know much about Kayla or her mom.
I've seen stuff online, but this will be an opportunity
to really connect and bond.
Are you living together?
- Yeah. - How's that?
- It's awkward.
So I met Luke when we were both going to college.
We had moved in together in October.
And I got pregnant, like, end of November.
Like, I feel like he proposed, like, to save the relationship
instead of like, oh, we're at part in our relationship
we should get married.
Luke and I were previously engaged.
And then I ended up calling off the engagement.
So right now, currently, we're technically not together,
but we live together at my mom's house
as, like, co-parenting partners.
So that can be pretty messy.
Like, the lines right now are kind of blurry.
You know what I mean? So--
- It's weird as [bleep].
- Really?
- They act like a couple.
- No, we don't. We don't hook up.
We're not intimate.
So to me, that's not acting like a couple.
- But I don't know what the hell they're doing
in their bed because they sleep in the same room.
- We have the kids in the room.
Where are we supposed to go?
- But It's just like, they do everything together.
I don't know if they're the best for each other
as a couple, at least right now.
What's going on?
- Well, the past year of our relationship
has not been good.
I told him I needed him to do a few things, you know?
Either start going to the gym
or taking care of his mental health.
And he didn't try.
Like, I just don't understand.
Like, I asked for the most basic,
and he couldn't even do it.
- And I thought the turning point was when you got engaged
and he was going to get his act together.
And obviously, that didn't happen.
I think they both need some work
if they're going to work it out.
- I think we need to, like, draw the line in the sand,
whether we like decide to stay together
and make it work or be like, hey,
we're better off as friends and co-parents.
During this trip, I think I just really want
to get some clarity going back home like,
look, we can't keep living together,
but we're not "really together."
Like, either we need to decide we want
to be together and work on these issues,
or we need to call it quits.
[phone ringing]
- Hello?
- You are receiving a call from an inmate
at Henderson Detention Center.
- Bar calls me every day multiple times a day
from jail.
He's just being held.
Like, he's not even being charged.
This is a case that he's been handling,
but he missed a court date in California
because we moved to Nevada.
So once they realized that they know where he is,
he's going to show up.
They're going to release him.
It's going to be fine.
- What?
- [crying]
Yeah.
- I'm not really sure what's going on.
But her mom's with her.
And I hope she's all right.
- Well, that sucks.
[crying]
OK.
[tense music]
OK.
- What did he say?
He is being extradited,
which means that California
has decided to come and pick him up
and make him fight the case from a California jail.
It's just much more time not seeing him.
[sobbing]
This case actually does hold a lot of weight.
And if he can't fight it from home
and he fights it from jail, and then he also gets time.
It's a lot going on with Ashley right now.
And she shouldn't have to deal with this.
Bar is not here.
And her plate is really overwhelmed.
♪ ♪
And this couldn't have come at the worst timing,
the worst timing.
[dramatic music]
- Want me to come in there and help?
- Hearing that Bar is going to be extradited
makes me feel scared, very scared.
He's facing a lot of jail time.
[interposing voices]
- This is, like, the worst news that
I could be getting while I'm away.
Ugh.
Oh, [bleep].
- Yeah.
I just-- I'm so depleted.
I like some of the people here, but I don't want any of them
in my business.
I just need a break.
[interposing voices]
Roxanne's going to keep trying me,
and I'm going to push that [bleep]
down there on the ground.
- [inaudible]
- Every time she walk past me, she walked
past me this morning so close. I didn't move.
I bumped right into that [bleep].
She's playing too many mother[bleep] games, [bleep].
Stay the mother[bleep] away from me.
I would rather just sleep and then
show up when my mood and my energy
and my vibe is much better.
- ♪ Hey, what you need? ♪
♪ 'Cause there ain't nothing that I can't do ♪
♪ Car low on grease? ♪
♪ I'll get that engine running real smooth ♪
- It's pretty, right?
- Yeah, this place is beautiful.
- I wanna play golf.
- I need me a rich man in my life.
♪ ♪
- It's kind of chilly out here.
- A little bit.
But we can sit in the sun though.
- Yeah.
- So what's been going on?
I feel like there's some tension or something going on.
- Between?
- Like, with Ashley and stuff.
- We got into, like, a social media--
it was really bull[bleep], honestly.
I had started a business, and she has started a business.
It came out that she was copying my business ideas
or whatever the case may be.
She gets on Instagram, and she makes
this whole post about how she doesn't have to steal
anyone business ideas.
And she just was throwing, like, low blows in there,
things that I knew had to do with me
without her having to say it.
When I confronted her and asked her if it was about me,
she goes, no, but if the shoe fits, wear it.
That pissed me off because--
- Rightfully so, yeah.
- --because if it's not about me, then leave it at that.
She just kept coming at me, like, in the DM.
So you know, I'm going to talk my [bleep] back.
Who the--I did not [bleep]
say [bleep] about you stealing [bleep] from me.
When somebody asked me that [bleep],
I said, that's her business.
If she wants to sell eyelashes, let her [bleep] do that.
If she wants to start a business,
let her [bleep] do that.
I just feel like she picks on certain people.
- Yeah. - And that's not OK.
And then I think my mom and Tea's situation
just kind of made me further just not
want anything to do with them.
- So they have a situation going too then?
- Yeah, because Tea's big grown ass
decided to get on social media and talk [bleep] about me.
I just don't think that they are genuine people.
- So they're kind of the same. Like, they kind of--
- Yeah, Tea's just an old version of her.
- What I'm hearing from Kiaya and a lot of the other girls,
I don't know if Ashley can't just talk to people
or if she just feels protected by the screen
that she can go behind people and talk about them.
But I always give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
We should all be able to be a [bleep] group of people that
support each other because at the end of the day,
like, even some of our close friends
can't relate to what we go through.
- Yeah.
I really appreciate Cate pulling me to the side
because I really want to get to know her.
So it's really nice to see some effort from the moms
to just make me feel included.
- I'm excited to get to know you even more.
- Thank you.
I'm excited to get to know all of y'all and have fun.
- Right?
That's what it's supposed to be about.
[bleep] the drama.
- ♪ One, two, three times in a row ♪
♪ You gotta switch it up ♪
♪ ♪
- Oh, yeah.
Don't mind if I do.
- After a crazy first day, I think it's great that we could
just hang out by the pool.
But it's hot as hell in Oregon.
I want a piña colada.
- We can't order [inaudible]?
- This is just so me right now.
I'm in my element, and I'm in the [bleep] zone.
- ♪ You can't believe your eyes ♪
- I have teen pregnancy in my family.
[interposing voices]
- My grandmother was a teen.
My dad was a product of a teen pregnancy.
- Back in the day, they were all [bleep] teens.
- Yeah, getting married at 12.
- 12 years old with a 40-year-old.
- Yeah. - [bleep] pervs.
- I still can't believe that I jumped off a [bleep] bridge.
- Oh, my God.
Cate, you gave me a freaking anxiety attack.
And them people, I know they're-- they're doing
what they do and everything.
But I just was like-- because I'm your mom.
- Yeah.
- So I was like, get away from my kid!
She said no. - Right.
- Don't you know what no means?
I felt like, quit pressuring her.
When someone says no, that means no.
- I want you to, like--
I don't know give, Coach B a chance.
She does seem very, like, sincere.
You know, I'm really excited that my mom is here.
I'm hoping maybe that I can, like, break her out
of her comfort zone in some aspects,
like, maybe do different things that she never
thought she would ever do.
I, like, want her to just open up.
I feel like there might be things that she might open
our eyes up to where it's like, all [bleep]--
- Oh, I-- I'm open, but you know,
like, I don't want to cry.
I know Caitlin's really big on therapy.
I'm just worried that Coach B is going
to portray me as a bad mom.
- You automatically go to anger because I
think that's what you had to do growing up as a kid.
I think it comes from, like, your childhood.
Like, were you not able to express feelings
and emotions maybe or were you afraid to?
- Both.
Like, I remember as a kid going to hug my mom
and my mom pushing me away. Like--
- And that's [bleep] sad.
- I remember feeling like my mom didn't love me.
- Right. Well, of course,
because that's what she was showing you in those times.
My mom is definitely the type of person
that will hold in her feelings and her emotions.
They end up coming out in, like, anger.
I am really hoping that my mom can kind of
learn some new things here.
She should definitely give Coach B a chance.
And I like it.
I'm glad I did it.
I'm glad because a lot of people talk--
say, like, the implants, like, oh, so round and--
but I-- I was glad I didn't.
- Yeah, they're so soft. - I didn't do it.
- They're squishy, though. [interposing voices]
- They are squishy, right? - Yeah.
- I don't want no titties.
Cut them off.
- You want to take them out?
- I'm taking them out.
I hit them up already.
I want nothing.
- Bri says that she wants to get
her breast implants taken out.
And all I'm thinking is why?
- I don't want to be a big girl.
- Your boobs look fine, I feel like.
- Hi, ladies.
Hi.
- As I see Coach B come out,
I'm getting a little bit anxious.
[interposing voices]
- I need a piña colada.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Hi.
- I'm apprehensive because the last time I saw her,
Briana jumped off that cliff.
- I have another surprise team building exercise.
[tense music]
- It's about to go down. [laughs]
♪ ♪
[up-tempo music]
- Hi. Hi. Hi.
There's some new faces, right?
- Hi.
- I do have a question.
Where's Ashley and her mom?
- I guess Ashley wasn't feeling well.
- We're hanging back from the pool today
because Ashley's not feeling good.
And even though I was dressed and ready to go,
I couldn't just leave her because everyone's
waiting for me at the pool.
So I had to be a dud with my daughter.
- I'm so excited not just to have the moms here,
but I also got the grandmas here.
- Call us glam-mas.
- Glam-mas, OK.
- We're glam-mas, you know?
Because we're glamorous women.
We're not old frumpy women.
- I got the mama bears and the glam-mas here.
Is that better? - Yeah.
- OK?
- This is my first time meeting Coach B.
And my first impression is just immediately,
like, her presence just makes you feel, like, at ease.
- I am interested in talking to Coach B
and looking for different ways to cope
with things and different ways to, like,
just handle my own emotions.
- This reunion, we want to work on
the intergenerational issues.
- Intergener-- what?
[laughs]
- Issues that were there with mom,
with dad, with family, things that happened in the past.
- Intergenerational issues are basically
when your ancestors, grandparents, whoever,
passed down attributes or trauma.
And our grandparents, or parents
are still passing them down.
- So with all that being said--
- What's the bomb you're going to drop?
- I have another surprise teambuilding exercise.
Get in something that you're OK with getting very dirty.
- Very? - OK.
- Very?
I got no sneakers for that.
- Fix your face.
- Getting dirty, I can do that.
But I am concerned for these other girls and their moms
because I'm not sure some of them want to get dirty.
- How dirty?
- I'm super nervous and scared for this.
I'm nervous about explaining certain things to my mom
that I never have before and how she's going to take it.
What is it going to be like?
- You have 30 minutes.
And I will see you ladies soon.
- ♪ Every time I walk in, I'm the best thing ♪
♪ I'm the best thing, they all watching ♪
♪ Every time we walk in ♪
- Let's see what Tea's doing.
I missed her at the damn pool.
- So I know there has been some bad tension between Ashley
and the other moms.
But I'm, like, a very neutral person,
so I'm going to check on Ashley and Tea
because I feel like they really should
be involved in the things that we are doing.
- Mama Tea.
- I'm sleeping, and all I hear is "Mama Tea!"
- Mama Tea.
- "Mama Tea!"
- Are you OK? - Yeah.
- I'm just trying to avoid overexerting myself
because I had a rough morning.
I have a lot going on, and I'm just--
I-- I genuinely, truly truthfully cannot process
it here with these people.
- Get up, Mama.
Where were you?
- You said you were going to swim with me.
- Yeah, were waiting for you at the pool, Mama Tea.
- So what are we doing now?
What are we doing?
- I guess, some teambuilding exercise.
- OK.
- If you guys want to come.
♪ ♪
- I don't know if that's the news I need just waking up.
However, I do love April, and I do love Cate,
so I'm going to get ready, and I'm going to show up.
- All right, girls.
I'm super excited that they're coming.
I don't want none of the tensions that are happening
stop people from working on some of the things
that we need to work on while we're here.
- ♪ It's all about the ride ♪
♪ So watch me hit my stride ♪
♪ I do it every single time ♪
- What is this?
- Uh-oh.
- Watch your step.
[interposing voices]
- Oh, my God.
- We walk up this little trail, and boom.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
A mud pit.
[laughs]
[interposing voices]
- Are we some [bleep] pigs?
This is mud.
I don't want to roll around in the mud.
- It look nasty.
- That looks like it's deep.
- Cheyenne, you can get in there,
but I'm not getting in that mud.
♪ ♪
- Today's all about the mother-daughter relationship.
♪ ♪
It's all tied into the intergenerational trauma
and how to become unstuck from that.
- I'm nervous and scared that it's going to bring up
some things that maybe are--
like, it's hard to talk about.
But then again, part of me is like,
you got to bring stuff to the surface
in order to heal stuff.
- And as you see, we have a mud pit here.
We are going to have moms in the mud,
glam-mas outside the mud.
And we are going to identify an issue we see
within yourself and your partner.
The rope represents the relationship
between mom and glam-ma.
The mud represents your issues and your challenges.
Once that issue is identified,
you're going to use not only your strength, glam-ma,
but also, your effective communication
to pull your daughter out.
Without effective communication,
you can't get through and support one another
in getting through your issues.
The exercise is complete once you have gotten out
of the mud pit onto the other side
and you are unstuck from the mud.
Who's going first?
Ash and mom? Let's rock and roll.
Come on, ladies.
- Ultimately, I'm looking forward to this experience
with my mom being here.
And I do really respect Coach B.
In the last reunion, she really opened my eyes
to some things with my husband.
And I feel like she can have the opportunity
to do that between me and my mom.
- Ashley, what is it that you want to work on with mom?
[tense music]
- She doesn't trust me to make the decisions
that she raised me to make.
And sometimes, we have conflict because it's like, Mom,
I got this.
You can let go.
If I'm going to make a mistake, I'm going to make the mistake.
And it's-- she can't protect me from it all.
♪ ♪
- I'm trying to protect you from all the hurt I felt.
- From?
- Abuse.
♪ ♪
Rape.
♪ ♪
Dope.
♪ ♪
Molestation.
Lies, abandonment.
I am the way I am because I don't want you to ever
have to see it, have to deal with it
because I already paid the price for the family.
- Stop. Stay there.
What does that stuff represent?
- I think I just--
I carry it because she carries it.
- You got to release it.
How does it show up?
- I don't know.
- Come on, Ashley. You know.
Dig deep, honey.
You've got this. Come on.
- I think the way I respond, my quickness to cut you down
instead of understand where you're coming from,
my defensiveness.
- 'Cause you're trying to protect you the way she's been
trying to protect you.
- Yeah.
Yeah.
- Mom, anything else you're protecting her
from that you want to let out?
- I'm mama bear.
I'm Mama Tea.
I will always protect her.
I think sometimes, I feel like I want
to protect her from Bar.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Anything else you're protecting her from
that you want to let out?
- Sometimes I feel like I need to protect you from Bar.
♪ ♪
- What did you hear her say? What does that mean to you?
- I think she feels like she's the end of me and Bar's story
because my dad and Bar are so similar.
- So tell me, what does that mean?
What's the similarities?
What are you protecting her from?
♪ ♪
- Dynamite.
I know when her and--
her dad and I were together,
it was dynamite.
And I know that her and Bar have that.
And if you don't know how to will it correctly,
it can be dangerous, extremely dangerous.
- Let's regroup.
The whole reason you're [bleep] that [bleep]
is because you want the clout and [bleep] from it.
- Oh, really? - Yes, [bleep].
Yes. Yes.
- Well, guess what?
♪ I'ma keep [bleep] him ♪
I'ma going to keep [bleep] him because I'm not [bleep] you.
- Go ahead. I don't want to [bleep] you.
- You want to talk that [bleep]?
Don't play with me.
- My family is just known for having a mouth, regardless.
- But the lower you cut
is the lower you place yourself.
We only give who we are.
So when she goes low, it's because she feels low.
- Is that true, Ashley?
- [bleep] yeah.
[somber music]
- The whole family is dealing
with the same dysfunctional patterns,
and it's time to interrupt and break that pattern,
so that her daughter doesn't have
to deal with this stuff and be stuck
on some stuff that's not hers. - Right.
- Got it?
- I think it's clear that my mom's temper
has been passed down to me.
I think we need to work on being more open
to communicate how we feel instead of jumping
so quickly to be defensive.
We're here to work on our relationships
with our mothers.
But also, you know, with every relationship,
it requires you to be vulnerable and open sometimes,
probably when you don't want to.
[applause] - Don't fall now, girl.
- I ain't going to fall.
- Good job, ladies.
Thank you for opening up.
- Thank you.
- I can't change anything that happened in the past.
But I definitely hear what Coach B and Ashley are saying.
It's definitely a revelation.
I mean, I'm open to growth.
- Thank you for trusting me.
- Of course, Coach B, of course.
- Good job.
- What Coach B says about Ashley
and her mom is clearly true.
The rage, and the anger,
and its transfer from the mom to the daughter,
from the daughter to the mom.
♪ ♪
- It just felt fake.
Like, was tears really coming out of Tea's face
when she talked about her experiences?
[indistinct chatter]
- All right, ladies.
OK, ladies. Come on.
We got-- we got Bri and Roxanne.
[tense music]
- I'm struggling as to what I want to say to my mom.
Whatever comes to my mind and to my heart
is what I'm going to say.
- Briana, what is it that you want to work on with mom?
- So I feel like you are so strong,
that you made me to be strong,
that I don't know how to show emotion
because I feel like I can only be strong.
And I feel like you taught me that, which is a good thing.
But I want to feel my feelings,
and I never know how.
And I feel like that was because of you.
- I know you want her to have her daddy.
Bri, sometimes some daddies are not willing
to want to make it work.
You're going to have to stay strong.
[patting baby]
[somber music]
It's OK. Don't cry.
She don't want to see you crying.
- Where do you put your emotions,
and why do you suppress?
- Like, I dropped the ball so many times.
- It's OK. - You're not perfect.
- I don't want my [bleep] kids to see me struggling,
so I have to suppress all my [bleep],
so that they don't really see me going through it.
- Stay there. Stay there.
Stay.
- Watching Bri and her mom go,
my heart just hurts because I can see the literal pain
on Roxanne's face.
- Did you hear what she said, Briana?
- She realized she [bleep] up.
But I want you to hear the number one thing
that your mom said.
She has mommy guilt. - I got the worst guilt.
- Because of her words, she dropped the ball,
and she [bleep] up on her kids.
That's what-- that's what she said loudest.
That's the stuff that's keeping her in bondage.
Let me ask you this. - I love you.
- Are you-- are you open to working through that
for the sake of your daughter?
- Yes.
- Pull your baby up.
[applause] There you go.
- Good job, girl.
- Yes.
That was the truth, though.
- Being vulnerable is hard as hell.
It was nice to see my mom get emotional.
It was nice to see something different from my mom.
- I'm so proud of you, sis.
You did it. - It's heavy.
And you don't realize how much you've
been carrying until you identify it
and acknowledge it.
I want to be strong for her, you know?
I want her to know that I'm always going
to be there and have her back.
But I feel like if you're not strong, what are you?
What can you do? It's [bleep] life.
I got my own battles I got to fight, my own internal issues.
I need to work on being vulnerable.
- I'm down to go. - Let's go.
Let's rock and roll.
- We got to cheer y'all on because y'all been
cheering on everybody.
- Somebody's got to [bleep] cheer me on.
- I'm nervous and scared.
Like, do I have the strength to be
100% open and honest with my mom?
- I got her.
Even though I'm going to bawl my eyes out, I got her.
I'm a little worried about what Cate's got to say
now that we're standing at this mud pit.
- All right.
Cate. - Yeah?
- What is it that we're working on with mom
that you want to address?
[somber music]
- I'm sick of being the perfect child.
♪ ♪
I'm sick of always being the one
that has to have it together.
And I'm sick of it.
- Cate, in what ways have you had to be perfect?
- I'm the one that has no problems.
I'm the one that has, like, a "perfect" relationship.
I'm the one that--
- She's the good one.
- Don't need nothing from her.
- I need you though.
- Cate, who's-- who's the mom in the relationship?
- She is, but personally, I feel like I am.
- Caitlin has been telling me what to do
and how to act since she was, like, [bleep] 12.
- How has mom been there for you
if you're the mom in the relationship?
How is she there emotionally?
- We talked about this today in the pool.
I don't feel like my mom has a very good way
of expressing her emotions.
It always comes out in anger.
- Go away.
- You're getting mad at me for no reason.
- You're irritating me. Get out of my [...] face.
- OK. For no reason.
- Condescending [bleep].
- OK, Ma.
- Shut your mouth, Caitlin, before I shut it for you.
- I feel like sometimes, when I express my true feelings
and how I feel, she'll throw my husband in the mix
and be like, oh, that's what Tyler would tell you to do.
- So then she gaslights you to make you think
that your opinions are coming from somebody else?
- Yes.
And so for me, it comes from a point of, like,
just realize that you raised a strong [bleep] woman.
- OK. That's right.
- [bleep], you don't think I know that?
- But that's where it comes from for me
where it's like, you raised a strong enough [bleep] woman
to stand up for what the [bleep] she believes in.
- I don't worry about you because you're
so [bleep] strong, I don't have to worry about you.
You always have been.
You've been the best [bleep] kid
in the whole [bleep] world. - Stop.
Stop. Stay right there.
- I've never had to worry about you.
- April was so aggressive.
It was such a weird situation.
Like, that was too aggressive for me.
- Ma. - And you wanted [bleep] rules,
but I never gave them to you. - Cate, stay there.
Stay there.
- No, I'm not stopping because it's the truth.
- Mom. - Watching Cate and April,
it made me honestly really feel sad.
And Cate wasn't really beating her up at all.
I think it was April beating herself up.
- You have to stop making this about you
and let her have her moment.
- I'm not trying to make it about me.
- But this is what you're doing.
And you just gave up on her.
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- You have to stop making this about you
and let her have her moment.
- I'm not trying to make it about me.
- But this is what you're doing.
- Her letting go of the rope really was
like a true visual representation
of how we communicate and kind of how our relationship is.
- Cate, how did it feel when she dropped the rope?
- That she was, like, mad and upset at me.
- Because that's my reaction.
If it's not the way it goes for her--
- Yeah?
- Oh.
- I know.
- That's not nice.
- Coach B is irritating me very much right now.
But I know that I have to get through this.
And hopefully, it will help me and Caitlyn
in some sort of way.
- This is what I want you to do, OK?
Gently pull her in at a pace that will work for her.
Can you do that? - Yeah.
- Cate, you just let her gently pull you in.
- Let her be your mom.
- Come on, baby. Come on.
I got you.
[inaudible]
- Telling my mom, like, you know,
I'm sick and tired of feeling like the perfect child,
I'm sick and tired of feeling like I always have
to do all the right things--
I've never told my mom these things,
so to be able to get them off my chest
was like, I feel lighter.
- Your job is to give love.
- Caitlin telling me that she's tired of feeling
like she has to be the perfect child kind of devastated me,
kind of, a little bit because I guess, I never realized
I treated her that way.
I don't want to let go now.
- No, it's OK.
This is tough, but I'm super proud of myself
that I was able to express some of these things.
And it's just showing, like, we have
a long, long journey to get
to where we need to be and should be.
- Last, but certainly, not least...
[applause] - Yes.
- Ready? - Let's go.
- Come on, Mama.
I'm a little nervous because I know what I'm about to say,
but I don't really know how she's going to take it.
- So Kayla, what is it that you want to work on
or address with Mom?
- I want my mom to, like, respect me as a mom.
- Mom, what did you hear her say?
- That she wants me to let her learn
how to handle everything on her own and not fix it for her.
- But I don't--
I don't feel like you do fix it for me.
I feel you just criticize.
- How much of yourself do you feel is
not good enough as a mother?
[soft dramatic music]
- I failed you.
I--I didn't make it work with your dad.
I didn't make it work with my second husband.
I see her doing the same things that I did,
and I want her to stop.
I don't want to see her being cheated on.
I want to work on empowering you.
You are a great mom.
You are-- - Stop.
What does she do as a great mom
that makes her a good mom?
- You are a single mom living with their dad in my house.
- You were trying to give me a compliment.
But to me, that was like--
that was an attack because that's like, I'm not--
I'm not doing well enough even if you
meant it as a compliment.
- And that's exactly what she's talking about she experiences.
I'm going to empower you.
And then I'm going to disempower you
by showing you what I'm doing for you.
So it negates the whole purpose of empowerment.
But let me say this to you because obviously,
right now, mom doesn't have the tools to do that yet.
And that's OK. We're going to work on that.
Her pain is talking to you--
- Yeah.
- Not her heart.
- I'm too negative, and I never tell her she's good enough.
And I always feel like I do.
Or I don't know how.
You are such a good mom.
And it's not about-- - Ahh.
That's-- you're a great mom.
- OK.
- And what else is amazing about her?
- She's a great daughter.
She's a great friend to her friends.
[uplifting music]
[applause]
- It feels good to get it off my chest
because it's something I've been feeling for a long time.
I hope my mom took in what Coach B is saying to her
and learns how to communicate.
And then on my part, I want to work on having more positive
outlook on finding a solution.
I know you didn't mean it like that.
- As far as giving Kayla encouragement down the road,
say the positive and not have a but after that.
I'm hopeful to be able to use that.
It's going to be a learning, but I'm ready.
- I'm so proud of the vulnerability
from the moms and the glam-moms.
- I'm hoping I can, like, take the moms and the grandmas,
like, what they're talking about or working through
and either relate to it with my mom
or learn some things that I might
be doing as it pertains to, like,
my parenting with my children.
- Kudos to y'all. I'm so proud.
My heart smiling, like, this big.
[laughter]
- This mud bath is definitely not
the same mud bath that I had at a spa.
I am 100% ready to take a shower.
- Now we're all traumatized.
- You can tell just from the whole group
that a lot of people feel a lot lighter.
It feels amazing just to get it all out.
- Everybody, get in!
[upbeat music]
[cheering]
- ♪ Shake it up ♪
♪ You've got to get loose ♪
♪ Get loose, get loose ♪
♪ ♪
- Oh, my God.
[indistinct shouting]
- ♪ Wait and see for yourself ♪
♪ What I've been through ♪
- There's so much mud right in this ear, I couldn't hear.
I'm like, hello? What?
What'd you say?
- Truth be told, like, literally, watching everyone
without my mom, I'm like, damn, I got a lot of [bleep]
I got to talk to my mom about.
- Babe, listen.
Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen.
Baby, not right now, OK?
I know.
I'm eating as much as I can.
Bar's in jail.
And I do wish he was here.
I don't think there's going to be a day
that I don't wish he's here.
I am so [bleep] exhausted.
- I guess, the question is, am I really ready
to open up and talk to her?
- Are you ready to deal with the trauma?
- No.
- I'll have your back because I know that feeling.
I've been there because we know how.
- So what do you think about the work
that Coach B--
- I think that [bleep] is smart.
- She better get out of my business.
[laughter]
I work really hard to have a good relationship with Ashley.
I would like to work on when she gets stressed,
her not completely shutting down.
I didn't even realize that Ashley
is carrying so much of me.
- You learned a lot, didn't you?
- Bar being in jail couldn't be at the worst timing,
especially with us coming here and feeling so vulnerable.
It's a trigger, definitely.
But I did notice, you know, as she's getting older,
I look at her, and I see me.
And I'd be like, I don't like that because I see myself.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music] - Thank you for cooking.
- Yum.
♪ ♪
- I think it was a good exercise.
- No, it was. It was.
- That was intense.
- Yeah, it was intense.
- But I learned a lot, like, about everybody
and the different, like, dynamics
between mother and daughter.
And it's, like, out of everyone's stories,
I can relate to something and find something, like,
within our own relationship or my own self
that I could work on.
- We think we're different, but we're really not.
- No, we're not. - We're all alike.
I think there's a lot of trauma at the table,
but I also think it's a lot of love here too.
- Well, I feel like-- like we're the only ones that can
truly understand each other, so we should not be going
behind each other's backs.
We should not be talking [bleep] about each other.
- Thank you. - Yes.
- And to get it from a mom in the group is bad.
[tense music]
I think moms should not be harassing
or talking [bleep] about
someone else's daughter on the show.
- Let's talk about it. - Right about now.
- What's the problem, Roxanne?
- The problem is that your daughter
inserted herself in a situation that
she had no business inserting herself.
- No. Tone it down.
- So I know there has been some drama
and bad tension between Tea and Ashley
and Roxanne and Bri.
But, like, leaving the meeting with Coach B
at the mud pit activity,
I definitely think there would be able to be
adult conversations.
- It's OK. Let them talk about it.
- Inserted herself on a lie
when she had no business to do what she did.
Briana was having a falling out with Kail.
Ashley went on live and started talking [bleep].
And then her mom just ran her mouth
on social media about my daughter.
And I'm [bleep] done with the bullying of my daughter.
She was so [bleep] disrespectful.
Shame on her.
My daughter would never talk to any mother
in this [bleep] table the way your daughter speaks to me.
♪ ♪
And I don't care what trauma she has.
There's no excuse for it.
And then you want to go on live and talk and discuss
my daughter [bleep] like,
who she's dating, who she's [bleep].
It's none of your business, none of your [bleep] business.
♪ ♪
- Well, Roxanne-- - I don't want to hear it.
You have nothing to say to me.
- I just know a war is about to go down.
- I don't give a [bleep], [bleep].
[indistinct shouting] I don't give a [bleep].
- You're [bleep] crazy.
- I don't give a [bleep].
I don't give a [bleep]. Let's get it straight.
Your old [bleep] don't have nothing to say, [bleep].