1 00:00:01,968 --> 00:00:03,537 ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:05,372 --> 00:00:08,342 [Cory] I've always wanted a Teen Mom orgy! 3 00:00:08,776 --> 00:00:11,611 [Jade] Previously on Teen Mom Family Reunion. 4 00:00:12,078 --> 00:00:13,781 Okay, okay! Man watching. 5 00:00:13,881 --> 00:00:17,151 It's time to get naked! 6 00:00:17,251 --> 00:00:18,619 [Cate] I'm like, "What is going on here?" 7 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:20,387 I think we all need to go to bed. 8 00:00:20,487 --> 00:00:24,291 You are gonna rank the issues in your relationship. 9 00:00:24,391 --> 00:00:26,093 [Maci] Intimacy for me, I feel like. 10 00:00:26,193 --> 00:00:29,764 For a long time it was so about my, my self-confidence 11 00:00:29,864 --> 00:00:30,898 and, like, needing that, 12 00:00:30,998 --> 00:00:33,267 so it's always gonna be at the top for me. 13 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:35,235 [Cate] Well, I just heard from Mackenzie, 14 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:36,637 and she is coming, 15 00:00:36,737 --> 00:00:38,405 and she's bringing her new boyfriend. 16 00:00:38,505 --> 00:00:40,040 How do you feel about it? 17 00:00:40,141 --> 00:00:41,775 Mackenzie made the comments online. 18 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,110 She asked if she can call me, because apparently I was 19 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:45,812 the only black person that she knew. 20 00:00:45,912 --> 00:00:49,249 It's been two years since I've spoken to Mackenzie, 21 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:53,087 and I was really okay with leaving all that in the past. 22 00:00:53,187 --> 00:00:56,390 [bass-heavy club music] 23 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:59,460 [Mackenzie] I don't want to have issues with anyone, 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,862 and I don't want anyone to remember me 25 00:01:01,962 --> 00:01:03,263 as someone who hurt them. 26 00:01:03,363 --> 00:01:05,699 Look like we got some company! 27 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,934 ♪ Here we go ♪ 28 00:01:08,034 --> 00:01:09,837 ♪ I show up, you show up, we show up ♪ 29 00:01:09,937 --> 00:01:11,738 ♪ Everybody gonna have a good time ♪ 30 00:01:11,838 --> 00:01:13,640 ♪ I show up, you show up, we show up ♪ 31 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:15,142 ♪ Everybody gonna have a good time ♪ 32 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:17,044 [bass-heavy club music] 33 00:01:17,144 --> 00:01:20,313 [laidback music] 34 00:01:20,413 --> 00:01:22,316 [Cate] Hey, can we have a movie night? 35 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:24,819 Let's get a big screen up! A projecting screen. 36 00:01:24,919 --> 00:01:26,519 Go in. 37 00:01:27,687 --> 00:01:30,757 I feel like my heart is gonna pound outta my chest. 38 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:33,961 This can go a thousand different ways. 39 00:01:34,728 --> 00:01:39,499 I have rebuilt my whole life during this two years off of TV. 40 00:01:41,268 --> 00:01:45,039 The only way out is through. 41 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:46,240 Oh, [bleep]. 42 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,575 Look like we got some company! 43 00:01:49,476 --> 00:01:51,111 -Hi! -[Tyler] You're here! 44 00:01:51,211 --> 00:01:54,047 Tension went from a two to a ten. 45 00:01:54,147 --> 00:01:56,984 Welcome to Colombia! Hello! 46 00:01:57,351 --> 00:01:59,553 -Hi, how are you? -[Mackenzie] Hi, good! 47 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,888 [Cate] I encouraged Mackenzie to come, 48 00:02:01,988 --> 00:02:05,659 and I really hope that she can learn something from being here, 49 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:09,062 and I also do hope that her and Cheyenne can kind of 50 00:02:09,429 --> 00:02:11,565 fix whatever has been broken. 51 00:02:11,665 --> 00:02:13,367 -Khesanio. -Khesan? 52 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,769 -Khesanio. -[Cory] What's goin' on, Cory. 53 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:17,137 Nice to meet you. 54 00:02:17,238 --> 00:02:19,440 Mackenzie and her boyfriend walk in. 55 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:21,809 I didn't know if she was gonna come in and be friendly, 56 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:24,778 if she was gonna come in and be unfriendly. 57 00:02:27,047 --> 00:02:28,549 She's just not speaking. 58 00:02:29,049 --> 00:02:30,617 As long as you're gonna be stank, 59 00:02:30,717 --> 00:02:32,719 I'm gonna be right stank back with you. 60 00:02:34,221 --> 00:02:36,490 [Mackenzie] If people ain't gonna jump up and hug me, 61 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:38,825 then I'm not gonna jump up and hug them. 62 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:41,762 So, I'm like, "Okay, okay, okay, okay!" 63 00:02:41,862 --> 00:02:43,330 [Khesanio] I'm Khesanio, nice to meet you. 64 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:44,531 -How are you? -[Jade] Jade. 65 00:02:44,631 --> 00:02:46,733 -Hey, I'm Zach. -[Khesanio] Khesanio. 66 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:48,902 -How are you? -Hi. 67 00:02:49,436 --> 00:02:50,404 [Khesanio] I'm coming into the house, 68 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:52,172 and I'm introducing myself to everyone. 69 00:02:52,272 --> 00:02:53,474 I'm being Khes, I don't care. 70 00:02:53,574 --> 00:02:55,442 If I came in and didn't do anything, 71 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:57,912 then they're gonna be like, "Oh, they're so rude." 72 00:02:58,012 --> 00:02:59,513 You're gonna say Khes. 73 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:01,715 [indistinct] Khes, I'm Tyler. Nice to meet you, Khes. 74 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:03,683 [Jade] Mackenzie is definitely standoffish, 75 00:03:03,784 --> 00:03:05,585 almost, like, kind of weirded out. 76 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:08,121 But Khesanio came around immediately 77 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:09,756 and was, like, hi to everyone. 78 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,558 I loved his energy, I thought he was very nice. 79 00:03:11,658 --> 00:03:13,493 It's been a long-ass day. 80 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:15,262 Well, probably for you guys, too. 81 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:16,630 -[Mackenzie] Yeah. -[Cate] Mm-hm. 82 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:18,331 [Mackenzie] I see Cheyenne for the first time, 83 00:03:18,432 --> 00:03:20,934 there's no eye contact being made. 84 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:23,070 Ahh! 85 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:25,806 We knew there was a possibility Mackenzie would show up, 86 00:03:25,906 --> 00:03:27,842 but we didn't really have a game plan. 87 00:03:27,942 --> 00:03:29,643 I see Mackenzie kinda lookin' around, 88 00:03:29,743 --> 00:03:31,479 tryin' to, you know, check the temperature in the room. 89 00:03:31,579 --> 00:03:33,246 Chy isn't fazed, you know. 90 00:03:33,346 --> 00:03:35,015 I'm interested in gettin' to know the both of them, 91 00:03:35,115 --> 00:03:37,218 but you know, we gotta hash some things out 92 00:03:37,318 --> 00:03:38,386 with Mackenzie first. 93 00:03:38,486 --> 00:03:40,053 I need to get a drink. 94 00:03:40,788 --> 00:03:43,491 Like, alcoholic drink? 95 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:45,125 Ooh, I need some, too! 96 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,494 [Tyler] So, that was it? 97 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:49,063 They come in here, awkward silence, 98 00:03:49,163 --> 00:03:50,497 and then, then they dip out? 99 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:52,566 They ain't really helpin' the awkward level here. 100 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:56,603 Did you feel an awkward vibe when we walked in there? 101 00:03:57,004 --> 00:03:59,273 Mm, yeah, yeah. 102 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:02,142 But no matter what, we're gonna have fun. 103 00:04:03,010 --> 00:04:05,145 I know I'm gonna have fun. You better have fun, too. 104 00:04:06,846 --> 00:04:08,716 I think she's feeling a little nervous, 105 00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:11,652 but that's also one of the reasons why I'm here. 106 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:13,720 I'm here to support her as best as I can. 107 00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:17,524 [Mackenzie] Does anyone know where our room is located? 108 00:04:17,925 --> 00:04:18,859 -We can go see. -Yeah, yeah, 109 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:20,560 yeah, they have big names. 110 00:04:20,861 --> 00:04:22,763 You could feel the tension in the room. 111 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:26,700 So, I just felt like if I can try to make 'em feel, hey, 112 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,136 they're at home, and get some sleep, 113 00:04:29,236 --> 00:04:30,337 maybe this will help. 114 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:31,605 Oh, so, you guys are down here. 115 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:32,840 -[Mackenzie] Yeah. -Oh, your guys's room 116 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,841 -is so cute. -[Khesanio] Ooh, look at that! 117 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:37,077 Look at that picture right there! 118 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:39,446 [Mackenzie] Aww, that's in Jamaica. 119 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:42,483 I'll say what everyone's thinkin': awkward. 120 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:45,486 [dramatic club music] 121 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:48,522 [bass revving down] [crickets chirping] 122 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:50,491 [Taylor] The tension in the room is kinda thick, 123 00:04:50,591 --> 00:04:51,892 and it definitely was uncomfortable. 124 00:04:51,992 --> 00:04:53,727 So, me and Maci go upstairs and call on 125 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:55,262 our 15-year-old, Bentley. 126 00:04:55,363 --> 00:04:57,264 [phone ringing] 127 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:58,398 [Taylor] 'Sup? 128 00:04:58,865 --> 00:05:00,200 [Bentley] 'Sup? 129 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,135 [Taylor] How was gettin' to school this mornin'? 130 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,138 It was fine. 131 00:05:04,238 --> 00:05:05,772 [Taylor] What are y'all doin' right now? 132 00:05:06,573 --> 00:05:08,175 [Bentley] Uh, we're about to eat. 133 00:05:08,408 --> 00:05:10,244 It's kind of hitting me that 134 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:12,212 we've been away from the kids for a while. 135 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:15,516 I gotta admit, I'm kinda missin' the little crap-heads right now. 136 00:05:15,616 --> 00:05:17,251 Hey, obviously not gonna go 137 00:05:17,351 --> 00:05:20,053 too hard in on it obviously, 'cause it's late there, 138 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:21,822 but that English grade, though... 139 00:05:21,922 --> 00:05:23,657 -[Bentley] English grade? -Yeah. 140 00:05:24,091 --> 00:05:27,494 You do know your GD is a retired teacher, right? 141 00:05:28,262 --> 00:05:29,530 -[Bentley] Yeah. -[Maci] I would use that to 142 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:30,831 your advantage, buddy. 143 00:05:30,931 --> 00:05:32,666 Having three kids and being so busy, 144 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:37,605 we are in a stage of life where Taylor and I don't really know 145 00:05:37,705 --> 00:05:39,940 how to make time for 146 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,576 the romantic sides of our marriage. 147 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,711 That, that class is hard, I get it. 148 00:05:44,812 --> 00:05:46,980 But don't, don't lose sight of it. 149 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,682 Don't, don't quit on it, okay? 150 00:05:48,782 --> 00:05:50,651 You just invest so much time into your kids 151 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:53,554 that this kinda, this part gets pushed to the side. 152 00:05:54,054 --> 00:05:56,056 [Maci] I'm definitely feeling like this trip 153 00:05:56,156 --> 00:05:58,725 is exactly what Taylor and I have been needing. 154 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:00,928 But we definitely still have some work to do. 155 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:02,496 -Alright, love you, bud. -Love you, dude. 156 00:06:02,596 --> 00:06:03,831 [Bentley] Love you. 157 00:06:03,931 --> 00:06:05,865 Hopefully we can take this energy home with us. 158 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:07,034 We'll see. 159 00:06:07,134 --> 00:06:08,168 -[Bentley] Love you, bye. -Bye. 160 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,536 [hang-up tone] 161 00:06:09,636 --> 00:06:12,572 [crickets chirping] 162 00:06:12,672 --> 00:06:17,978 [upbeat piano music] 163 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:21,181 ♪ Ooh, now halle-hallelujah, how you doin', how you feel? ♪ 164 00:06:21,281 --> 00:06:23,117 ♪ I got somethin' I been cookin' up ♪ 165 00:06:23,217 --> 00:06:25,052 ♪ That fire on the grill, yeah ♪ 166 00:06:25,152 --> 00:06:27,855 ♪ There's trouble to get into, you already know the deal ♪ 167 00:06:27,955 --> 00:06:29,322 ♪ So, let's paint the town red ♪ 168 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:31,592 ♪ To match the bottom of your heels, like... ♪ 169 00:06:31,692 --> 00:06:33,160 -Good morning. -[Tyler] Morning. 170 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:34,795 Good morning. 171 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:37,965 Waking up this morning, you can definitely still feel 172 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:39,366 the tension in the room. 173 00:06:39,466 --> 00:06:40,968 With everything that's gone down with Mackenzie, 174 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:44,304 I just think today, it's gonna be really weird. 175 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:45,740 What are you gonna eat? 176 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:49,843 I gotta, I gotta process life right now. 177 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:54,848 At this point, I am just going to try to have 178 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:57,217 the best experience I can, 179 00:06:57,317 --> 00:07:01,622 and to find a good time to get to talk to Cheyenne. 180 00:07:02,056 --> 00:07:03,557 [Taylor] Word of the day is...? 181 00:07:03,657 --> 00:07:04,858 Oh! 182 00:07:05,326 --> 00:07:06,193 Oh my God, help me. 183 00:07:06,293 --> 00:07:08,062 You have to have a word of the day? 184 00:07:08,162 --> 00:07:09,997 [stammering] 185 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:12,400 - Tranquilo, tranquilo. -Which means? 186 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,567 Calm the [bleep] down. 187 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,169 -Oh, okay. -Stay calm. 188 00:07:15,269 --> 00:07:16,537 Tranquilo. 189 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:17,671 [Tyler] Were you excited when you were, 190 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:18,973 you knew you were comin' here, or what? 191 00:07:19,073 --> 00:07:21,508 [Mackenzie] Yes, I was, but nervous, too. 192 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:23,877 [Tyler] Okay, but what happened with other cast members? 193 00:07:23,977 --> 00:07:25,646 Because this is what I heard yesterday, 194 00:07:25,746 --> 00:07:26,647 that stuff happened between 195 00:07:26,747 --> 00:07:27,948 -you and Cheyenne. -Yeah. 196 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:29,383 [Tyler] What's, what's the deal with that? 197 00:07:29,483 --> 00:07:32,286 I know a, a small bit of the history and the drama 198 00:07:32,386 --> 00:07:33,787 between her and Cheyenne. 199 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:35,923 But I wanted to learn what her perception was. 200 00:07:36,023 --> 00:07:37,991 I wanted to know her side of what happened. 201 00:07:38,091 --> 00:07:41,361 I had made a comment on Facebook, 202 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:43,830 and I was trying to be politically correct. 203 00:07:43,931 --> 00:07:45,632 So, there was, like, a word mix-up. 204 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:47,534 -Okay. -[Mackenzie] Yeah. 205 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:51,071 And instead of saying 'woman of color', I... 206 00:07:52,706 --> 00:07:54,241 I don't wanna repeat it. 207 00:07:54,708 --> 00:07:56,943 -But... -She said 'colored woman'. 208 00:07:57,544 --> 00:07:59,146 Okay... 209 00:07:59,246 --> 00:08:03,049 I wake up the next morning, and there's articles everywhere. 210 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:07,587 I was raised around no diversity. 211 00:08:09,223 --> 00:08:11,391 I had one black girl in my school. 212 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:12,827 Oh wow, okay. 213 00:08:12,927 --> 00:08:15,329 My comment was not okay. 214 00:08:15,429 --> 00:08:18,265 What I said was not okay, and it came out of ignorance. 215 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:21,368 And then after educating myself, like, on the word, 216 00:08:21,468 --> 00:08:22,903 I will hear it, you know, 217 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:24,738 and I'm like, "Wait, what, what did you just say?" 218 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:25,973 It sparks somethin', does it not? 219 00:08:26,073 --> 00:08:27,274 It does spark somethin'. 220 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:28,675 Once you learn, once you learn the history, 221 00:08:28,775 --> 00:08:30,277 -it's like, "Oof." -It, it happens. 222 00:08:30,377 --> 00:08:31,412 People do make mistakes, 223 00:08:31,512 --> 00:08:33,681 and when you genuinely get to know someone 224 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:36,750 and realize that they're not that type of person 225 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,351 who they're being portrayed to be... 226 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:40,954 That's one of the reasons I'm happy I got to know Mackenzie 227 00:08:41,055 --> 00:08:42,823 before I got to know the situation. 228 00:08:42,923 --> 00:08:44,591 I said something stupid, 229 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:45,926 I wanna take full accountability. 230 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:47,628 -Uh-huh. -The other girls know. 231 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:51,798 So, I texted two of them, one was your wife, and... 232 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:53,033 [Tyler] Oh, you did text Cate. 233 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:54,935 -Yes. -Oh wow, okay. 234 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:57,704 And she was like, "You know, the right thing to do 235 00:08:57,804 --> 00:08:59,507 is just to own up, say sorry." 236 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:01,875 -[Tyler] Right. -[Mackenzie] "I appreciate that 237 00:09:01,975 --> 00:09:03,811 you recognize where you went wrong." 238 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:04,979 -Right, right. -[Mackenzie] I called 239 00:09:05,079 --> 00:09:06,714 -Cheyenne, too. -How did that come about? 240 00:09:06,814 --> 00:09:08,349 -That's what I'm curious about. -[Mackenzie] Okay, so this is 241 00:09:08,449 --> 00:09:10,518 where everything, like, went south. 242 00:09:10,618 --> 00:09:12,286 She made a tweet, like, a... 243 00:09:12,386 --> 00:09:15,222 And basically said it was from ignorance. 244 00:09:15,322 --> 00:09:17,157 -Which is true. -[Tyler] Did you know that 245 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:18,759 people were showin' up at her house and [bleep]? 246 00:09:18,859 --> 00:09:20,293 -No. -[Tyler] Wow. 247 00:09:20,394 --> 00:09:22,296 [Jade] I personally have never met Mackenzie before. 248 00:09:22,396 --> 00:09:25,532 But I know there's been some issues with her and Cheyenne. 249 00:09:25,632 --> 00:09:27,400 But if I know one thing about Cheyenne, 250 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:32,806 it's that she is graceful, forgiving, open-minded, 251 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:34,541 and willing to give people second chances. 252 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:37,678 So, I don't know how this is gonna play out. 253 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:38,812 [Tyler] Do you feel like it's necessary 254 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,448 to have a conversation with Cheyenne? 255 00:09:40,548 --> 00:09:41,482 Or do you feel like it's...? 256 00:09:41,582 --> 00:09:42,950 How do you wanna approach it, I guess? 257 00:09:43,050 --> 00:09:45,086 Yeah. I really do. 258 00:09:45,186 --> 00:09:46,987 Like, we have to have this conversation. 259 00:09:47,088 --> 00:09:48,322 Maybe you could just explain to her 260 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:50,123 what you've learned in two years. 261 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:52,459 Right. 262 00:09:57,431 --> 00:10:00,834 [upbeat Spanish music] 263 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:04,038 [Cheyenne] Alright, I know we've all been having fun, right? 264 00:10:04,138 --> 00:10:06,440 [All] Yeah! 265 00:10:06,540 --> 00:10:09,443 Alright, and I'm happy everybody has on their sneakers, 266 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:12,313 'cause today we're gonna go dune buggying. 267 00:10:12,413 --> 00:10:14,014 [Jade] Yes! 268 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:17,451 And we're going to meet coaches at the end of the finish line. 269 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:19,653 Sounds good to me. Dune buggies! 270 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:22,322 [Mackenzie] I had a really good one-on-one talk with Tyler, 271 00:10:22,423 --> 00:10:24,758 but I'm still trying to figure out 272 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:26,960 where my place is in this house. 273 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:29,963 So, we decided that we're not gonna do the workshop, 274 00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:34,668 and we kinda wanted to just look around and get settled in. 275 00:10:34,768 --> 00:10:36,270 So, is everybody ready? 276 00:10:36,370 --> 00:10:37,938 'Cause we're gonna head out, like, soon. 277 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:39,406 Let's go! 278 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:40,941 [Cory] For some reason, Mackenzie and Khes, 279 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:42,443 they're not comin' to the workshop, 280 00:10:42,543 --> 00:10:43,944 and I'm just thinkin', "Ahh. 281 00:10:44,044 --> 00:10:45,779 That's another opportunity that you have 282 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,547 to become part of this group." 283 00:10:47,648 --> 00:10:50,117 But she's isolating herself again. 284 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,186 -Let's go! -Where we goin', baby? 285 00:10:52,286 --> 00:10:54,054 [Jade] Fun! 286 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:55,389 [Sean] We got one here, babe. 287 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:56,690 [Tyler] I got outside, I see dune buggies. 288 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:58,224 I'm already pumped! I'm like, "Yes!" 289 00:10:58,325 --> 00:11:00,227 Everyone's about to ride some dune buggies on the beach! 290 00:11:00,327 --> 00:11:01,661 Like, I don't care what the exercise is, 291 00:11:01,761 --> 00:11:03,297 as long as I get to ride those things, I'm pumped. 292 00:11:03,397 --> 00:11:04,531 Get in your own [bleep]! 293 00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:07,000 [Cory] Game time, baby! 294 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:10,003 Let's get after it, babe. Come on. 295 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:13,540 Woo! 296 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:19,513 We come from very, very different backgrounds, 297 00:11:19,613 --> 00:11:21,114 -you and I. -Mm-hm. 298 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:24,151 But we realize, like, we're very, very much alike, 299 00:11:24,251 --> 00:11:25,953 and no one's ever given me 300 00:11:26,053 --> 00:11:29,356 the grace and the patience that you have. 301 00:11:29,456 --> 00:11:31,826 I'm just so happy. 302 00:11:32,359 --> 00:11:33,861 And then we were invited here, 303 00:11:33,961 --> 00:11:36,129 and all this stuff was being brought out. 304 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:39,633 And it's cause I've made mistakes, Khezzie. 305 00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:41,101 I've made mistakes. 306 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:46,039 Like, you're, you're taking on so much with me, and... 307 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:50,144 And, like, sometimes I feel like I don't deserve it. 308 00:11:50,711 --> 00:11:52,979 You know, it was kind of a tough decision for Makenzie 309 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,348 to come here. 310 00:11:54,448 --> 00:11:55,749 I want her to be brave. 311 00:11:55,849 --> 00:11:57,217 You can only control what you can control. 312 00:11:57,317 --> 00:11:59,286 But you know, I just hope Cheyenne and Mackenzie 313 00:11:59,386 --> 00:12:00,754 can figure it out at the end. 314 00:12:01,255 --> 00:12:03,156 Everybody have made mistakes in their lives. 315 00:12:03,557 --> 00:12:04,625 And a lot of people, 316 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:06,193 a lot more people would make mistakes. 317 00:12:06,927 --> 00:12:08,328 What are you gonna do, cry about it? 318 00:12:08,428 --> 00:12:09,796 You're not gonna cry about it. 319 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:13,767 [Mackenzie] I know I have got to say sorry to Cheyenne. 320 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:16,303 But I have to mentally prepare myself 321 00:12:16,403 --> 00:12:18,705 because I've messed up before. 322 00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:23,910 [upbeat club music] 323 00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:25,479 ♪ Like a boss, like a boss ♪ 324 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:27,648 ♪ Like a boss, like a boss ♪ 325 00:12:27,982 --> 00:12:29,449 ♪ Like a boss, like a boss ♪ 326 00:12:29,549 --> 00:12:31,285 Alright, alright! Y'all havin' fun over there? 327 00:12:31,385 --> 00:12:33,053 -Hola! -[Michaiah] Hey! 328 00:12:35,555 --> 00:12:37,758 -[Michaiah] Welcome. -Alright. 329 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:39,059 Hey. 330 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:40,827 [Michaiah] Today, we've set up a workshop for you. 331 00:12:40,928 --> 00:12:43,363 It is called In the Driver's Seat. 332 00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:44,598 Mm. 333 00:12:44,698 --> 00:12:46,200 In relationships, a lot of the time 334 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:47,635 it's all about perspective. 335 00:12:47,735 --> 00:12:50,704 But sometimes, if you can just change that perspective, 336 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:53,307 you can learn to see things in your relationship 337 00:12:53,407 --> 00:12:55,008 in a whole new light. 338 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,577 [Michaiah] Sometimes, you're the driver of the relationship, 339 00:12:57,677 --> 00:13:00,480 and sometimes, you're the passive passenger. 340 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,583 In this role reversal exercise, 341 00:13:02,683 --> 00:13:05,518 you're gonna take the wheel as your partner. 342 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:06,987 [Dr. Mike] You'll get to vocalize 343 00:13:07,088 --> 00:13:09,589 what you think your partner thinks 344 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:12,559 are the biggest issues in your relationship. 345 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:14,227 Ladies and gentlemen, we're splitting up. 346 00:13:14,327 --> 00:13:16,563 -Ladies, you're coming with me. -[Dr. Mike] And guys, 347 00:13:16,663 --> 00:13:17,932 you are coming with me. 348 00:13:18,032 --> 00:13:19,166 Alright. 349 00:13:19,266 --> 00:13:21,001 [Michaiah] Hopefully, you'll gain some empathy 350 00:13:21,102 --> 00:13:22,102 for your partners 351 00:13:22,202 --> 00:13:24,137 by seeing things from their point of view. 352 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:25,539 Woo! 353 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:27,007 They separated the guys and the girls. 354 00:13:27,107 --> 00:13:28,942 So, now I'm like, "I don't know what the [bleep] goin' on." 355 00:13:29,042 --> 00:13:30,644 [Dr. Mike] My guys, how you guys doin'? 356 00:13:30,744 --> 00:13:32,179 [All] Good. 357 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:33,981 [Dr. Mike] As you get in the shoes of your partner, 358 00:13:34,081 --> 00:13:36,683 I want you to really let yourself have it. 359 00:13:37,117 --> 00:13:39,252 Jade, into the driver's seat, please. 360 00:13:39,619 --> 00:13:41,389 [Jade] I am a little worried. 361 00:13:41,489 --> 00:13:42,822 Is this weird? Yes. 362 00:13:42,922 --> 00:13:44,825 Am I confused? A little bit. 363 00:13:44,925 --> 00:13:46,994 I have to put myself into Sean's shoes, 364 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:48,729 and, like, how does his brain work. 365 00:13:48,829 --> 00:13:50,063 [Michaiah] What has he said in arguments? 366 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:51,498 What has he said during conflict? 367 00:13:51,599 --> 00:13:53,500 "Jade, you are very intimidating. 368 00:13:53,601 --> 00:13:54,802 You expect a lot. 369 00:13:55,302 --> 00:13:57,972 You sometimes make me feel like less of a man. 370 00:13:58,072 --> 00:14:04,110 You shouldn't talk down to me, and maybe be less abrasive...?" 371 00:14:04,377 --> 00:14:05,913 Jade, you're mean! 372 00:14:06,013 --> 00:14:07,714 "Jade, sometimes you're mean." 373 00:14:07,814 --> 00:14:11,285 I realized after I had an argument with myself, 374 00:14:11,652 --> 00:14:14,054 that I need to chill. 375 00:14:14,154 --> 00:14:17,057 I'm having an argument with me, pretending to be him, 376 00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:20,260 and then I was like, "Am I, am I the problem?" 377 00:14:20,661 --> 00:14:22,095 [Dr. Mike] Sean! 378 00:14:22,196 --> 00:14:24,198 "Sean, [bleep] you for using drugs and hiding it from me, 379 00:14:24,298 --> 00:14:25,299 you piece of [bleep]." 380 00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:26,667 Yeah. 381 00:14:26,767 --> 00:14:28,001 "[bleep] you for thinkin' I don't give a [bleep] 382 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,103 or see the effort you put into your recovery. 383 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:32,006 And after everything I've been through in my life, 384 00:14:32,106 --> 00:14:34,808 I thought you would know that I have empathy for your situation. 385 00:14:34,909 --> 00:14:37,278 If you love me, you're gonna stop treating me this way." 386 00:14:37,378 --> 00:14:38,545 "And if you don't love me?" 387 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:40,247 "And if you don't love me, then leave." 388 00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:41,514 Nice. 389 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:44,118 Nice work. Nice work. 390 00:14:44,218 --> 00:14:47,054 This workshop today with Dr. Mike and Michaiah 391 00:14:47,154 --> 00:14:49,156 it's really just an exercise to help you vent 392 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:51,692 and say some [bleep] 393 00:14:51,792 --> 00:14:53,894 that you might not wanna say to their face. 394 00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:57,198 But it feels good to release that and get it off my chest. 395 00:14:57,298 --> 00:14:59,299 Cory, you're up. I want you to play Taylor. 396 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:00,667 Get in that driver's seat. 397 00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:02,470 Cory's up next, I'm about to pull my popcorn out. 398 00:15:02,570 --> 00:15:03,904 This gon' be a good one. 399 00:15:04,004 --> 00:15:07,207 Ooh, that Cory! Oh, that Cory. 400 00:15:07,307 --> 00:15:09,143 Yeah, man. [bleep] that guy Cory, huh? 401 00:15:09,243 --> 00:15:10,777 -[Dr. Mike] Oh... -Little piece of [bleep]! 402 00:15:10,877 --> 00:15:12,612 I start off as Taylor, you know? 403 00:15:12,713 --> 00:15:14,548 And I just kinda let myself have it. 404 00:15:14,648 --> 00:15:17,050 "Oh, Cory, [bleep] you for..." 405 00:15:17,151 --> 00:15:18,819 "[bleep] you for always hurtin' me! 406 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:22,022 Always, I try to trust you, you break the trust. 407 00:15:22,122 --> 00:15:23,056 I'm hurt. 408 00:15:23,157 --> 00:15:24,958 All that [bleep] you put me through, 409 00:15:25,058 --> 00:15:26,293 you want me to recover? 410 00:15:26,393 --> 00:15:27,794 I'm still hurtin' from it. 411 00:15:27,894 --> 00:15:29,563 And it's not up to you to pick 412 00:15:29,663 --> 00:15:31,264 when I get to recover from that." 413 00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:35,102 "I need you to do more with yourself, 414 00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:37,738 I need you to go out and have a social life." 415 00:15:37,838 --> 00:15:39,506 There's more. He says more. 416 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:41,107 "We need to have alone time." 417 00:15:41,808 --> 00:15:44,478 Um, "You need to separate yourself from the kids." 418 00:15:45,012 --> 00:15:47,548 It was odd to put myself in his shoes 419 00:15:47,648 --> 00:15:49,216 and have a conversation with myself, 420 00:15:49,316 --> 00:15:51,685 but it actually made me realize that 421 00:15:52,352 --> 00:15:55,455 maybe we're talking to each other the wrong way, 422 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:57,725 and maybe we need to communicate a little bit differently. 423 00:15:58,225 --> 00:16:00,561 So, it was good to be in his shoes for once. 424 00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:05,066 "I need you just to love me, to be there for me! 425 00:16:05,166 --> 00:16:08,335 Support me, put that ring on my finger." 426 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:09,370 Mm. 427 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:11,004 "If I don't get my needs met with you, 428 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:12,440 I'm gonna have to move on. 429 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:13,774 You need to take that step." 430 00:16:13,874 --> 00:16:16,142 [dramatic music] 431 00:16:20,481 --> 00:16:21,682 [Dr. Mike] Cory, you're up. 432 00:16:21,782 --> 00:16:23,350 "If I don't get my needs met with you, 433 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:24,919 I'm gonna have to move on. 434 00:16:25,019 --> 00:16:26,486 You need to take that step." 435 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:28,856 [bell tolls] 436 00:16:28,956 --> 00:16:30,457 Ooh, that was deep, Cory. 437 00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:32,459 -That was deep, good work. -Yeah man, thank you. 438 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:34,427 Thank y'all, yeah? 439 00:16:34,895 --> 00:16:36,129 [bleep]! 440 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:38,698 Damn, that [bleep] felt good, dog. 441 00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:41,201 The moment that I let out that yell, 442 00:16:41,301 --> 00:16:43,036 I mean, I just got a lotta frustration. 443 00:16:43,136 --> 00:16:47,074 Like, I don't know exactly why I feel how I feel. 444 00:16:47,174 --> 00:16:50,077 So it's just, there's a lot of emotions goin' on right now. 445 00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:52,245 [Dr. Mike] Alright, Tyler. You know the drill. 446 00:16:52,913 --> 00:16:54,181 [Tyler] Everyone thinks we're this perfect couple, 447 00:16:54,281 --> 00:16:56,484 but I know for a fact of what we need to work on, 448 00:16:56,584 --> 00:16:58,552 and I know exactly what she would say to me. 449 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:00,454 I do a lot of self-analyzing. 450 00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:02,623 "Ty, do you have any idea what I went through as a kid?! 451 00:17:02,723 --> 00:17:04,724 Do you have any idea on what I go through on a daily basis 452 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:06,259 to keep my mental health in check? 453 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:09,496 Do you have any idea how I feel when you freak out and get angry 454 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,398 and blow up and not control your own [bleep]? 455 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,400 Do you have any idea how I feel 456 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,002 because I gotta take care of all these kids?" 457 00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:17,805 "Cate, we need to figure out a solution then, 458 00:17:17,905 --> 00:17:20,507 so that we can have quality time at least once a month. 459 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:25,145 It's our fault that we aren't making those connections 460 00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:26,513 and those things happen." 461 00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:28,849 "So, [bleep] you for not controlling your damn anger 462 00:17:28,949 --> 00:17:29,916 and your emotions! 463 00:17:30,016 --> 00:17:32,653 [bleep] you for makin' me feel unworthy! 464 00:17:32,753 --> 00:17:34,554 So, I need you to start takin' control of your anger, 465 00:17:34,655 --> 00:17:35,856 bringing it down, 466 00:17:35,956 --> 00:17:37,724 and being a little bit more compassionate 467 00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:39,460 with my mental health journey." 468 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,894 "'Cause if you don't...?" 469 00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:43,097 "'Cause if you don't, I'll find someone that will." 470 00:17:43,197 --> 00:17:44,264 Damn! 471 00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:45,866 Alright, good job. 472 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:48,068 Not bad. Alright, next up! 473 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:50,538 [Tyler] I hope that Cate doesn't feel that way. 474 00:17:50,638 --> 00:17:52,439 I was just kinda talkin' [bleep] to myself. 475 00:17:52,539 --> 00:17:55,842 "Cate, you don't communicate hard things sometimes, 476 00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:58,813 and you need to just open your [bleep] mouth." 477 00:17:58,913 --> 00:17:59,947 Okay. 478 00:18:00,047 --> 00:18:02,116 [Cate] My putting myself in Tyler's shoes 479 00:18:02,216 --> 00:18:03,950 helps me understand, maybe, 480 00:18:04,051 --> 00:18:05,852 things that I need to do differently. 481 00:18:05,952 --> 00:18:07,854 So, it just brings a new light 482 00:18:07,954 --> 00:18:10,524 to different aspects of our relationship. 483 00:18:10,991 --> 00:18:13,361 It was difficult, but I feel like it was also good. 484 00:18:13,461 --> 00:18:14,594 [Michaiah] So, Cheyenne, 485 00:18:14,695 --> 00:18:17,230 what you get to do is to be Zach. 486 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:19,700 What he might say are his issues. 487 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,937 "Zach, what drives me crazy about you is..." 488 00:18:23,037 --> 00:18:25,706 "Zach, what drives me crazy about you is 489 00:18:25,806 --> 00:18:27,207 you have so much potential, 490 00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:28,642 but you don't utilize all of it." 491 00:18:28,742 --> 00:18:29,977 Ahh! 492 00:18:30,077 --> 00:18:32,712 "Cheyenne, you don't appreciate the things that I do. 493 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,250 You don't do things around the house." 494 00:18:36,683 --> 00:18:39,986 "Do you have any idea that I believe in you?" 495 00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:41,789 [Cheyenne] "Cheyenne, you work too much. 496 00:18:41,889 --> 00:18:44,091 Cheyenne, you don't know how to put your phone down. 497 00:18:44,925 --> 00:18:47,094 Cheyenne, all you know how to do is make money." 498 00:18:47,561 --> 00:18:50,530 "I hate that you try to wear the drawers in the relationship." 499 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,499 [All] Ohh! 500 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,969 "Cheyenne, you need to be quiet." 501 00:18:55,736 --> 00:18:59,440 This exercise, I learned to see Zach's perspective. 502 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:02,743 I'm dominant and controlling, I take over. 503 00:19:02,843 --> 00:19:04,678 I'll ask Zach a question and answer it 504 00:19:04,778 --> 00:19:07,481 before I even let him think about his answer. 505 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:09,116 Can I see your eyes for a second? 506 00:19:09,216 --> 00:19:10,150 Yes, you can. 507 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,286 I can feel the emotion in your voice. 508 00:19:12,386 --> 00:19:14,755 The caps, the shades, it's almost this visual metaphor 509 00:19:14,855 --> 00:19:16,423 -of hiding. -Yeah. 510 00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:17,691 And this right here, 511 00:19:17,791 --> 00:19:19,026 do you think Cheyenne needs to see that? 512 00:19:19,126 --> 00:19:20,460 Yeah, definitely does. 513 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,596 Coach Mike brought somethin' outta me that I didn't know. 514 00:19:23,697 --> 00:19:25,565 I was able to voice how she felt, 515 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:28,035 from her shoes, and it felt good. 516 00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,803 Maci, come on down. 517 00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:31,705 Taylor, you're Maci. 518 00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:35,076 I want you to channel all of the sadness, all of the rage, 519 00:19:35,176 --> 00:19:38,011 all the fear, and Maci's talkin' to you. 520 00:19:38,512 --> 00:19:41,782 "Taylor, screw you for letting it all build up and erupt. 521 00:19:41,882 --> 00:19:43,751 What that has been like for me is a lonely road. 522 00:19:44,218 --> 00:19:46,353 When you let things build up and don't say it, 523 00:19:46,453 --> 00:19:48,022 it makes me feel this big." 524 00:19:48,122 --> 00:19:50,090 Me and Maci have been together so long, 525 00:19:50,191 --> 00:19:52,626 it's easy for me to yell at myself from her perspective. 526 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:57,565 "Maci, I would be more intimate if you came to bed 527 00:19:57,665 --> 00:19:59,599 at the same time as me." 528 00:20:01,535 --> 00:20:04,304 I don't know, really. This is hard. 529 00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:07,007 This exercise is gonna be really hard for me, 530 00:20:07,107 --> 00:20:09,943 just because it's weird talking to myself. 531 00:20:10,043 --> 00:20:11,812 There are times in relationship where 532 00:20:11,912 --> 00:20:15,015 you may not know what your partner is thinking or feeling, 533 00:20:15,116 --> 00:20:17,017 especially if they don't communicate. 534 00:20:17,117 --> 00:20:18,852 -Yeah. -[Michaiah] So, this says to me 535 00:20:18,952 --> 00:20:20,854 that there's a lot more underneath the surface. 536 00:20:20,955 --> 00:20:22,423 That we have to do some digging... 537 00:20:22,523 --> 00:20:23,490 -Yeah. -And figure out what's really 538 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:25,192 goin' on. 539 00:20:25,292 --> 00:20:27,228 We were correct when we said we need to work on communication. 540 00:20:27,728 --> 00:20:30,264 Part of the reason this exercise is so difficult 541 00:20:30,364 --> 00:20:33,000 is because we lack communication. 542 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:36,337 "What I need you to start doing is communicating with me more." 543 00:20:36,437 --> 00:20:37,738 "And if I don't get that..." 544 00:20:37,838 --> 00:20:38,939 "If I don't get that, 545 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:40,841 I will put walls up and shut down." 546 00:20:41,175 --> 00:20:42,576 Alright. Good work. 547 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:44,444 [Taylor] This workshop is definitely uncomfortable, 548 00:20:44,544 --> 00:20:45,879 kinda makin' me feel vulnerable. 549 00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:47,847 But it's an interesting perspective on 550 00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:51,051 how to understand your partner from your own eyes. 551 00:20:51,151 --> 00:20:53,153 I actually feel like that was kind of eye-opening. 552 00:20:53,587 --> 00:20:55,422 [Michaiah] It absolutely is. 553 00:20:55,522 --> 00:20:57,224 Let's give it a wolf howl. 554 00:20:57,324 --> 00:20:59,659 [howling] 555 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,161 Good job, guys! 556 00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:03,897 Found some perspective beyond that driver's seat. 557 00:21:03,997 --> 00:21:05,232 Let's go. 558 00:21:05,332 --> 00:21:07,935 The diver's seat workshop was a learning experience. 559 00:21:08,035 --> 00:21:11,105 It helped me realize not only are my feelings valid, 560 00:21:11,205 --> 00:21:13,173 but my partner's feelings are valid, too. 561 00:21:18,245 --> 00:21:21,047 [soft drum beats] 562 00:21:22,016 --> 00:21:23,350 I'm hungry! 563 00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:27,355 ♪ Come and get it, come and get it ♪ 564 00:21:28,122 --> 00:21:29,890 [Khesanio] When everybody's out of the house earlier, 565 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:31,591 Mackenzie's doing alright, 566 00:21:31,692 --> 00:21:33,427 Mackenzie's emotions are in check. 567 00:21:33,527 --> 00:21:37,698 And as soon as it was time for dinner, it got weird again. 568 00:21:37,798 --> 00:21:39,700 ♪ Come and get it, come and get it ♪ 569 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,536 [bass-heavy club music] 570 00:21:42,636 --> 00:21:44,571 Mackenzie looks scared to talk to Chy. 571 00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:47,173 Chy is bein' quiet right now. 572 00:21:48,976 --> 00:21:50,544 I know what that means. 573 00:21:50,644 --> 00:21:53,480 She's mad or she's irritated. 574 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:55,115 She's probably both. 575 00:21:56,650 --> 00:21:58,451 There's a lot of tension goin' around. 576 00:21:58,552 --> 00:22:00,120 It's awkward. 577 00:22:00,988 --> 00:22:02,022 We need to kill this. 578 00:22:02,122 --> 00:22:03,891 It's holdin' the group back, 579 00:22:03,991 --> 00:22:06,226 because everyone's walkin' on eggs. 580 00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:08,162 We're like, "Oh, what's gonna happen, 581 00:22:08,262 --> 00:22:09,463 what's gonna happen?" 582 00:22:09,563 --> 00:22:10,798 How are the hot dogs? 583 00:22:10,898 --> 00:22:12,566 I don't know, I gotta get the onions off, first. 584 00:22:12,666 --> 00:22:14,334 [Mackenzie] The whole situation hurts. 585 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:18,972 I am very uncomfortable for me, for her, for everyone. 586 00:22:19,072 --> 00:22:22,509 And at the end of the day, I need to go apologize to her 587 00:22:22,976 --> 00:22:26,280 because at this point, we have got to move forward. 588 00:22:26,380 --> 00:22:34,321 [dramatic music] 589 00:22:34,421 --> 00:22:35,789 [crickets chirping] 590 00:22:39,727 --> 00:22:45,532 [Latin club music] 591 00:22:45,632 --> 00:22:47,901 Taylor and I are meeting with Dr. Mike today 592 00:22:48,001 --> 00:22:49,503 for our couple's session, 593 00:22:49,603 --> 00:22:52,172 and I think it's really important for us to address 594 00:22:52,272 --> 00:22:55,642 our communication issues and our intimacy issues. 595 00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:57,211 [Dr. Mike] How you guys doin' so far? 596 00:22:57,311 --> 00:22:58,678 Soakin' it all in. 597 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,516 [Dr. Mike] So, today this session is about deep honesty. 598 00:23:02,616 --> 00:23:04,952 And I want the two of you, this married couple, 599 00:23:05,052 --> 00:23:08,622 telling each other what is the deeply honest moment 600 00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:10,991 when you knew you were in love with your partner. 601 00:23:11,091 --> 00:23:15,428 I think the time that really struck the cords for me 602 00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:17,931 was, was the time you told me when I was... 603 00:23:18,632 --> 00:23:19,733 I was getting ready to move out there, 604 00:23:19,834 --> 00:23:21,301 and we were gonna give this a go, 605 00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:25,105 and you said, "You have to decide if this is for you 606 00:23:25,205 --> 00:23:26,507 and this is gonna work, 607 00:23:26,607 --> 00:23:28,476 because I'm not bringin' you into Bentley's life 608 00:23:28,576 --> 00:23:30,444 for you to leave later on." 609 00:23:30,544 --> 00:23:33,047 How are you handlin' bein' in Bentley's world? 610 00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:35,448 I'm sleepin' on a Ninja Turtle bed tonight. 611 00:23:37,017 --> 00:23:38,151 Yeah. 612 00:23:38,252 --> 00:23:39,353 [Taylor] And it was at that moment 613 00:23:39,453 --> 00:23:40,787 that, like, I went back and reflected, 614 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:43,390 and I, I thought, "Not only can I not do this to you, 615 00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:46,226 but I can't do this to a four-year-old child." 616 00:23:46,326 --> 00:23:49,796 -Yeah. -That, that hit me deep, yeah. 617 00:23:50,831 --> 00:23:53,634 That's wild, because that's what I was gonna say. 618 00:23:53,734 --> 00:23:55,035 -Really? -[Maci] Yeah, that was it 619 00:23:55,135 --> 00:23:57,338 -for me, too. -Wow, wow. 620 00:23:57,438 --> 00:23:58,572 [Maci] Like, because for me, 621 00:23:58,672 --> 00:24:01,808 I completely just, like, let all the fences down. 622 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:03,944 What does that feel like when you talk about 623 00:24:04,044 --> 00:24:05,111 your love for him? 624 00:24:05,212 --> 00:24:14,688 [emotional music] 625 00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:16,856 I feel blessed. 626 00:24:18,392 --> 00:24:19,826 Really blessed. 627 00:24:22,262 --> 00:24:23,430 Because... 628 00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:28,935 To just be able to sit here and just appreciate and, like... 629 00:24:29,536 --> 00:24:32,005 love every bit of him, 630 00:24:32,706 --> 00:24:35,275 even if I wanna rip his head off sometimes. 631 00:24:35,375 --> 00:24:37,644 I have a strong feeling that because of 632 00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:40,014 the passion I'm sensing in the two of you, 633 00:24:40,714 --> 00:24:42,616 I have a feeling you guys can fight. 634 00:24:42,716 --> 00:24:43,917 -Yes. -[Dr. Mike] Is that true? 635 00:24:44,017 --> 00:24:45,252 Yes. 636 00:24:45,352 --> 00:24:46,520 What does he say that hurts you the most? 637 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:52,927 [contemplative music] 638 00:24:53,027 --> 00:24:53,893 I don't wanna say it. 639 00:24:53,994 --> 00:24:55,029 We all say things 640 00:24:55,129 --> 00:24:55,996 -we don't mean. -[Maci] Right. 641 00:24:56,096 --> 00:24:57,330 So, this is not a... 642 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:58,799 This is not a, like, "Oh, we're catching him," 643 00:24:58,899 --> 00:24:59,799 or catching you. 644 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,335 But I can tell that by your emotion, 645 00:25:01,435 --> 00:25:02,736 that, that thing he says, 646 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:04,572 that's pressing on some Achilles' heel in you, 647 00:25:04,672 --> 00:25:05,872 -I see it. -[Maci] Mm-hm. 648 00:25:05,972 --> 00:25:08,175 He said that he would not want his daughter 649 00:25:08,275 --> 00:25:10,010 to become the mother that I am. 650 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:11,511 Oh... 651 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,813 What did that feel like? 652 00:25:15,282 --> 00:25:16,583 Cold. 653 00:25:17,651 --> 00:25:22,022 What have I done that hurt him that bad? 654 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:25,726 And Taylor, I imagine that you have an Achilles' heel 655 00:25:25,826 --> 00:25:28,428 that she pressed on for you to say something that low. 656 00:25:28,529 --> 00:25:31,532 I think some of it's my own doing, 657 00:25:31,632 --> 00:25:33,199 because I don't... 658 00:25:33,967 --> 00:25:36,970 speak on things, on the little things 659 00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:38,472 when they're bothering me, 660 00:25:38,572 --> 00:25:40,640 and I just bury 'em inside. 661 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:41,742 Mm. 662 00:25:41,842 --> 00:25:43,043 To the point where it's like a volcano, 663 00:25:43,143 --> 00:25:45,012 -and when it erupts, it erupts. -[Dr. Mike] Ahh. 664 00:25:45,112 --> 00:25:46,580 Did you mean what you said? 665 00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:48,315 No. 666 00:25:48,415 --> 00:25:50,584 Has he repaired that wound from what he said? 667 00:25:51,118 --> 00:25:54,020 I know when you said that, you didn't mean it. 668 00:25:54,387 --> 00:25:56,123 Doesn't mean it hurt any less. 669 00:25:56,523 --> 00:25:58,058 It makes me feel worthless, 670 00:25:58,158 --> 00:26:01,795 but I know it's not true or how he really feels. 671 00:26:01,895 --> 00:26:03,697 I know it's a part of the buildup 672 00:26:03,797 --> 00:26:06,099 from lack of communicating. 673 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,635 How are you talking to him now? 674 00:26:10,404 --> 00:26:12,339 I'll be honest, I think it's a lot more about 675 00:26:12,439 --> 00:26:14,140 how I'm talking to myself. 676 00:26:15,509 --> 00:26:16,943 More... 677 00:26:18,579 --> 00:26:20,447 -Graceful. -[Dr. Mike] Yeah. 678 00:26:21,015 --> 00:26:22,249 So... 679 00:26:22,816 --> 00:26:25,552 I think then that just 680 00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:28,989 moves onto how I speak to him. 681 00:26:29,089 --> 00:26:32,393 [Dr. Mike] Yeah, there is this very controlling, negative, 682 00:26:32,493 --> 00:26:34,228 hyper-vigilant voice inside your head 683 00:26:34,328 --> 00:26:35,596 -that I can sense. -[Maci] Yes. 684 00:26:35,696 --> 00:26:37,231 And you turn it on yourself a lot, is that true? 685 00:26:37,331 --> 00:26:38,632 [Maci] Yeah. 686 00:26:38,732 --> 00:26:42,603 Since 16 years old, I've been in survival mode 687 00:26:42,703 --> 00:26:45,773 of, "This is your responsibility. 688 00:26:45,873 --> 00:26:49,577 Nobody else's, and you have, you don't have time..." 689 00:26:49,677 --> 00:26:51,946 -[Dr. Mike] Mm. -"...to feel anything." 690 00:26:52,046 --> 00:26:54,448 -[Dr. Mike] Mm. -"You have to get [bleep] done." 691 00:26:54,815 --> 00:26:56,717 Maci, that's yours. It's your turn. 692 00:26:56,817 --> 00:26:59,152 Can you just hold him 'til I get done with my homework? 693 00:26:59,252 --> 00:27:01,288 [baby crying] 694 00:27:01,388 --> 00:27:03,357 -Hurry. -[Taylor] [indistinct]. 695 00:27:03,457 --> 00:27:05,292 [Maci] I guess I'll go change his diaper. 696 00:27:05,392 --> 00:27:06,760 [Taylor] It's your turn. 697 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:09,363 Oh yeah, I do it 50 times, and you do it once, right? 698 00:27:09,797 --> 00:27:12,733 Wow, and your identity was Mom, right? 699 00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:15,268 That is all that it ever was. 700 00:27:15,368 --> 00:27:17,638 [Dr. Mike] And you picked up this identity as Dad. 701 00:27:17,738 --> 00:27:18,839 -[Maci] Yes. -Yeah. 702 00:27:18,939 --> 00:27:20,274 [Dr. Mike] And tell me if this is accurate. 703 00:27:20,374 --> 00:27:23,777 The two of you prioritize your kids as super-parents, 704 00:27:23,878 --> 00:27:27,581 and sometimes parenting gets in between the two of you. 705 00:27:27,681 --> 00:27:29,083 -Oh, 100%, yeah. -[Dr. Mike] Is that right? 706 00:27:29,183 --> 00:27:32,285 Isn't it so funny that the very thing that attracted you to him, 707 00:27:32,386 --> 00:27:34,654 right, he was such a loving provider 708 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:36,123 -to your kid... -Yeah. 709 00:27:36,223 --> 00:27:38,792 ...is now probably the thing that is driving a wedge 710 00:27:38,892 --> 00:27:40,527 in between the two of you? 711 00:27:40,627 --> 00:27:42,362 -Wow. -Never thought about that. 712 00:27:42,796 --> 00:27:44,465 And that's how it is in relationships. 713 00:27:44,865 --> 00:27:47,167 And it's not that you're gonna get rid of that thing. 714 00:27:47,267 --> 00:27:49,036 I don't want you to stop being super-parents. 715 00:27:49,136 --> 00:27:51,338 -I think it's an asset. -[Maci] Yeah. 716 00:27:51,438 --> 00:27:52,640 Until it's a liability, right? 717 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:53,774 -Yeah. -What is it 718 00:27:53,874 --> 00:27:55,108 that you need from him? 719 00:27:55,208 --> 00:27:57,577 I think to be seen. 720 00:27:57,677 --> 00:28:00,847 You craving a lot more openness from Taylor. 721 00:28:00,947 --> 00:28:02,449 -Yes. -[Dr. Mike] Yeah. 722 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:04,485 What is it that you need from her? 723 00:28:04,585 --> 00:28:06,954 I think at times, just... 724 00:28:07,054 --> 00:28:11,825 realizing what I've done that day, 725 00:28:11,925 --> 00:28:14,160 instead of what I haven't. 726 00:28:14,895 --> 00:28:16,230 Yeah. 727 00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:18,099 I have my first homework assignment for the two of you. 728 00:28:18,199 --> 00:28:19,934 After hearing everything 729 00:28:20,034 --> 00:28:21,835 that the two of you need from each other 730 00:28:21,935 --> 00:28:24,338 to really repair, to get this passion back, 731 00:28:24,872 --> 00:28:27,040 I want you guys to have a date night. 732 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,108 And I want you-- 733 00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:29,676 this is the hard part of the assignment. 734 00:28:29,776 --> 00:28:31,745 You cannot talk about your kids. 735 00:28:31,845 --> 00:28:36,082 That date night is all about your relationship. 736 00:28:36,183 --> 00:28:37,717 The two of you. 737 00:28:38,251 --> 00:28:39,586 Good work. 738 00:28:39,686 --> 00:28:40,987 -Can I give you guys a hug? -[Maci] I'm surprised 739 00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:42,489 -we've made it this far. -Great work, great work. 740 00:28:42,589 --> 00:28:43,657 [Maci] That was really tough. 741 00:28:43,757 --> 00:28:45,392 Dr. Mike definitely knows how to dig deep 742 00:28:45,492 --> 00:28:48,862 and get to the core of the tough relationship stuff. 743 00:28:48,962 --> 00:28:50,631 There's still a lot for Taylor and I 744 00:28:50,731 --> 00:28:52,632 to think about and work on. 745 00:28:53,234 --> 00:28:54,734 Whew. 746 00:28:54,835 --> 00:28:56,636 [Taylor] The homework to go have a date with each other 747 00:28:56,736 --> 00:28:58,371 is to not talk about the kids at all. 748 00:28:58,472 --> 00:28:59,673 I actually really like that idea. 749 00:28:59,773 --> 00:29:01,775 It really made me think back to the times 750 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:03,744 when me and Maci were first starting to date. 751 00:29:03,844 --> 00:29:05,212 The intimacy and the love and affection 752 00:29:05,312 --> 00:29:07,414 we had for each other, and the flirty-ness. 753 00:29:07,514 --> 00:29:09,850 And I wonder if we can ever get back to that point. 754 00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:16,289 [laidback guitar music] 755 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:18,692 [Cheyenne] I think I'm gettin' a little irritated. 756 00:29:19,527 --> 00:29:20,827 Yeah. 757 00:29:22,696 --> 00:29:25,232 Right, it's like you go to everybody else 758 00:29:25,332 --> 00:29:26,533 to have these conversations. 759 00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:29,336 And you're just, you're literally just ignoring me, 760 00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:31,204 and I'm starting, it's, like, starting to frustrate me 761 00:29:31,304 --> 00:29:33,440 to where I feel like if she would've came in 762 00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:34,908 and was like, "Hey, not tonight, 763 00:29:35,008 --> 00:29:36,443 but tomorrow can we sit down and talk?" 764 00:29:36,543 --> 00:29:39,413 I would've been so much more open to having a conversation. 765 00:29:39,513 --> 00:29:40,580 But at this point, you've gone to 766 00:29:40,681 --> 00:29:42,249 every single person in this house 767 00:29:42,349 --> 00:29:43,917 to have a conversation. 768 00:29:44,484 --> 00:29:45,519 Multiple. 769 00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:47,922 -No one knows me. -Yeah. 770 00:29:48,022 --> 00:29:49,290 No one's gotten to know me. 771 00:29:49,390 --> 00:29:50,724 I said something stupid. 772 00:29:50,824 --> 00:29:52,326 I wanna take full accountability. 773 00:29:52,426 --> 00:29:53,961 Uh-huh. 774 00:29:54,061 --> 00:29:55,996 The right thing to do is just to own up, say sorry. 775 00:29:56,096 --> 00:29:58,031 Maybe you could just explain to her 776 00:29:58,131 --> 00:29:59,400 what you've learned in two years. 777 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,001 Yeah. 778 00:30:01,102 --> 00:30:02,703 [Cheyenne] I feel like Mackenzie has done a good job of 779 00:30:02,803 --> 00:30:04,538 just avoiding me since she's been here. 780 00:30:04,938 --> 00:30:06,840 But at this point, we're living together. 781 00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:08,909 We can't avoid each other forever. 782 00:30:09,009 --> 00:30:11,178 Listen, these two girls need to have this talk 783 00:30:11,278 --> 00:30:13,981 so the tension in the house can be dead. 784 00:30:14,081 --> 00:30:16,450 But that's on nobody but their time. 785 00:30:16,550 --> 00:30:19,920 If she would've came in rather than just hiding or just 786 00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:21,789 -completely ignoring me... -That's what I'm talkin' about. 787 00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:23,390 [Cheyenne] Then I would've been way more open. 788 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:24,924 I was still open last night. 789 00:30:25,025 --> 00:30:28,662 Everyone here is telling me how she's spoken to them, 790 00:30:28,762 --> 00:30:30,998 and now I'm just startin' to get frustrated. 791 00:30:31,531 --> 00:30:32,866 [Cory] She's scared of you, Chy. 792 00:30:32,966 --> 00:30:34,535 -[Cheyenne] I don't care! -[Cory] she's scared of you. 793 00:30:34,635 --> 00:30:35,802 But now I'm pissed off! 794 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:37,605 Like, now I don't want you to come talk to me, 795 00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:39,573 -because now I have an attitude. -[Cory] I know. 796 00:30:39,673 --> 00:30:41,341 At this point, I'm so over it. 797 00:30:41,441 --> 00:30:43,010 No, and I'm not going to you. 798 00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:44,845 You don't get, I'm not giving you that. 799 00:30:44,945 --> 00:30:46,714 Nope, I agree with you, Chy. 800 00:30:46,814 --> 00:30:48,115 I don't think you should. 801 00:30:48,215 --> 00:30:50,384 Because it's not you that was in the wrong. 802 00:30:50,484 --> 00:30:51,652 She was in the wrong, 803 00:30:51,752 --> 00:30:53,187 and she should be coming and talking to you. 804 00:30:53,287 --> 00:30:56,123 But if she's grown so much, she would've understood that. 805 00:30:56,223 --> 00:30:57,958 Somebody needs to start the conversation, 806 00:30:58,058 --> 00:31:00,261 but I think that somebody needs to [indistinct] Mackenzie, 807 00:31:00,361 --> 00:31:04,331 because Chy has tried to reach out multiple times to her, 808 00:31:04,431 --> 00:31:05,832 and it didn't go well. 809 00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:08,735 We gotta have Chy's back before we have Mackenzie's back. 810 00:31:08,835 --> 00:31:09,903 I think that's what 811 00:31:10,004 --> 00:31:11,238 -it comes down to. -Little too deep. 812 00:31:11,338 --> 00:31:12,539 I don't wanna address it, 813 00:31:12,639 --> 00:31:14,474 and I feel like at this point, I have to address it. 814 00:31:14,574 --> 00:31:19,179 [tense music] 815 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:34,494 [Latin music] 816 00:31:34,594 --> 00:31:36,697 [Taylor] Dr. Mike gave me and Maci some homework 817 00:31:36,797 --> 00:31:37,898 to go on a date, 818 00:31:37,998 --> 00:31:40,133 and challenged us not to talk about the kids. 819 00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:41,935 It's our date, babe. 820 00:31:42,035 --> 00:31:43,537 I love these adventurous dates. 821 00:31:43,637 --> 00:31:45,372 It's somethin' we used to do early on in our relationship, 822 00:31:45,472 --> 00:31:48,209 we haven't gotten to do as much since we've had kids. 823 00:31:48,309 --> 00:31:50,411 [Maci] You aren't gonna necessarily remember 824 00:31:50,511 --> 00:31:51,879 just going to dinner. 825 00:31:52,246 --> 00:31:53,847 But swimming in a volcano? 826 00:31:55,382 --> 00:31:56,917 Definitely not gonna forget it. 827 00:31:58,285 --> 00:32:00,054 Can you believe we're in Colombia? 828 00:32:00,154 --> 00:32:01,722 I mean, I can, but I can't. 829 00:32:02,123 --> 00:32:03,557 At a volcano. 830 00:32:04,324 --> 00:32:05,659 [Maci] What if it erupts? 831 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,695 [Taylor] Then it's gonna be our last volcano. 832 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:10,864 I am very anxious about this homework challenge, 833 00:32:10,964 --> 00:32:14,467 in that we cannot talk about the kids at all. 834 00:32:14,568 --> 00:32:16,670 I'm eager to see if we can live up to the challenge. 835 00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:18,939 It's gonna take a lot of effort from both of us. 836 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,507 What are the rules? 837 00:32:20,608 --> 00:32:23,510 No talking about the kids, no talkin' about family stuff? 838 00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:25,246 -No talkin' about back home. -[Maci] Okay. 839 00:32:25,346 --> 00:32:26,714 -So, we're, we're just... -Just me and you. 840 00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:29,216 -We're goin' ten years back. -Like we first started datin'. 841 00:32:29,316 --> 00:32:30,650 Deal. 842 00:32:31,685 --> 00:32:34,288 But first, we've gotta climb up that. 843 00:32:34,388 --> 00:32:35,922 -[Taylor] Let's do it. -[Maci] I'm kinda scared. 844 00:32:37,391 --> 00:32:39,026 -Here we go. -Here we go. 845 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,762 [indistinct] exercise for our date, did you? 846 00:32:41,862 --> 00:32:43,496 I had a feeling. 847 00:32:44,464 --> 00:32:46,300 I guess the mud from this volcano 848 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,868 is supposed to have healing powers. 849 00:32:47,968 --> 00:32:51,671 Honestly, I think it's perfect for our date. 850 00:32:53,006 --> 00:32:54,274 -This is crazy. -Yeah. 851 00:32:54,374 --> 00:32:57,978 Once you get to the top and you're still alive, 852 00:32:58,078 --> 00:33:00,380 the view is absolutely stunning. 853 00:33:01,115 --> 00:33:01,982 [Taylor] Look at this. 854 00:33:02,082 --> 00:33:03,183 Oh my God! 855 00:33:03,283 --> 00:33:04,818 It's actually kind of, like, peaceful. 856 00:33:04,918 --> 00:33:06,220 It's really quiet. 857 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,189 I mean, does it get prettier? 858 00:33:08,289 --> 00:33:09,990 [Taylor] No, this is crazy. 859 00:33:11,025 --> 00:33:13,059 -Holy [bleep]. -Wait, do you really jump in? 860 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,728 -Yeah. -What? 861 00:33:16,963 --> 00:33:19,433 And then there's the inside of the volcano, 862 00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:22,702 and you just climb down the stairs and get in. 863 00:33:24,138 --> 00:33:25,405 Whoa. 864 00:33:26,006 --> 00:33:27,074 Mine's slippery. 865 00:33:27,174 --> 00:33:28,809 Mine was a little bit, too. 866 00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:31,178 Whoa, whoa! 867 00:33:31,478 --> 00:33:32,746 How deep is it? 868 00:33:34,281 --> 00:33:37,117 Whoa. I'm still goin'! 869 00:33:39,052 --> 00:33:40,087 [Taylor] Are you touching? 870 00:33:40,187 --> 00:33:41,188 No! 871 00:33:41,755 --> 00:33:43,790 How do you swim in this? 872 00:33:45,859 --> 00:33:47,761 [Taylor] It's weird, because when you climb in it, 873 00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,396 like, you can't touch the bottom. 874 00:33:49,496 --> 00:33:50,831 But there's so much sulfur or whatever it is 875 00:33:50,931 --> 00:33:52,733 that it actually, like, pushes you to the top 876 00:33:52,833 --> 00:33:53,968 and you float. 877 00:33:54,735 --> 00:33:56,771 ♪ I tried to keep it simple ♪ 878 00:33:56,871 --> 00:33:59,773 ♪ But simple never gets you this ♪ 879 00:34:00,607 --> 00:34:03,077 I don't know if it's the healing powers in the mud 880 00:34:03,177 --> 00:34:06,681 or that Taylor and I are not talking about our kids, 881 00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:09,550 but I'm having an absolute blast. 882 00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:11,451 I feel like I haven't had this much fun with Taylor 883 00:34:11,551 --> 00:34:12,986 in a very long time. 884 00:34:14,922 --> 00:34:16,590 What are you writing on my back? 885 00:34:18,325 --> 00:34:21,027 ♪ Yeah, anything can happen ♪ 886 00:34:22,029 --> 00:34:23,163 What'd you write? 887 00:34:24,297 --> 00:34:25,632 No, I didn't. 888 00:34:27,033 --> 00:34:28,201 I put "I heart you". 889 00:34:29,403 --> 00:34:34,874 ♪ I'm livin' just to hold ya under city lights ♪ 890 00:34:34,975 --> 00:34:37,277 [hopeful music] 891 00:34:37,378 --> 00:34:39,145 You're not gonna cleanse your beard? 892 00:34:39,245 --> 00:34:41,081 [Taylor] I think it's majestic. 893 00:34:41,181 --> 00:34:42,349 [Maci laughs] 894 00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:52,626 [Latin music] 895 00:34:52,993 --> 00:34:55,862 Ugh, that's not refreshing at all. 896 00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:57,931 I'm gettin' in the shade. 897 00:34:58,298 --> 00:35:01,702 I knew at some point it was gonna be disrespectful 898 00:35:01,802 --> 00:35:07,274 for me to just carry on without the apology to Cheyenne. 899 00:35:07,374 --> 00:35:09,776 I want her to know I'm sorry 900 00:35:09,876 --> 00:35:12,579 that she is even in this situation. 901 00:35:14,214 --> 00:35:18,419 So, Cheyenne, I wanted to just, like, break the awkwardness. 902 00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:19,853 Like, the way I came in, 903 00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:22,589 I wanted to really respect boundaries, 904 00:35:23,123 --> 00:35:25,492 and I didn't want you to think that I was, like, 905 00:35:25,592 --> 00:35:27,328 going around hugging everyone, 906 00:35:27,428 --> 00:35:31,565 'cause I really just wanted to respect your boundary. 907 00:35:32,065 --> 00:35:34,735 I'm super glad that Mackenzie and Cheyenne 908 00:35:34,835 --> 00:35:36,370 are finally able to talk, 909 00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:40,007 and I hope that they can kind of just get to a, a level ground. 910 00:35:40,107 --> 00:35:42,275 I hate that you were ever 911 00:35:42,376 --> 00:35:44,445 brought into this in the first place. 912 00:35:44,545 --> 00:35:47,481 The past two years, I've learned a lot, 913 00:35:47,581 --> 00:35:50,784 and I think I had to become more self-aware 914 00:35:50,884 --> 00:35:54,922 before this conversation was had. 915 00:35:55,889 --> 00:36:00,461 I wasn't self-aware enough, or just taking accountability. 916 00:36:00,561 --> 00:36:01,895 I was... 917 00:36:02,529 --> 00:36:04,331 making myself a victim. 918 00:36:04,731 --> 00:36:07,267 I'm trying to be open, 919 00:36:07,367 --> 00:36:09,336 listening to Mackenzie's apology. 920 00:36:09,436 --> 00:36:10,871 But two years ago, 921 00:36:10,971 --> 00:36:14,641 Mackenzie did not understand the power of her words. 922 00:36:14,741 --> 00:36:16,610 I hope now she does. 923 00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:18,545 I'm tryin' to keep an open mind. 924 00:36:19,513 --> 00:36:25,186 I am just now aware of damage that happened to, like, your, 925 00:36:25,286 --> 00:36:29,022 your family, and really how bad it was. 926 00:36:29,122 --> 00:36:32,359 That's untrue, 'cause that was made well aware of 927 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:33,961 that people were coming to my house. 928 00:36:34,061 --> 00:36:36,329 I never knew people were coming to your house. 929 00:36:37,464 --> 00:36:41,101 I, I really would not lie about 930 00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:43,570 not knowing what, that was happening. 931 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:45,172 I was like... 932 00:36:45,272 --> 00:36:46,873 It was displayed from multiple different channels, though. 933 00:36:46,974 --> 00:36:48,575 [Khesanio] They are talking a lot. 934 00:36:48,675 --> 00:36:52,079 I don't know if it's positive, hopefully it is. 935 00:36:52,179 --> 00:36:54,981 Every time you went on live and cried about how 936 00:36:55,081 --> 00:36:59,019 I didn't say that I loved you, my family got attacked for it. 937 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:01,455 People were calling my kid's school, 938 00:37:01,555 --> 00:37:04,291 calling my parents' business, showing up to my house 939 00:37:04,391 --> 00:37:07,260 to defend you and your words. 940 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,863 So, I get you're saying you were coming from 941 00:37:08,963 --> 00:37:10,197 a place of ignorance, 942 00:37:10,297 --> 00:37:12,699 but understand that your words have power. 943 00:37:14,435 --> 00:37:15,602 And that's the frustration. 944 00:37:15,702 --> 00:37:17,271 -So... -No one ever told me. 945 00:37:17,371 --> 00:37:20,140 I don't, I don't believe that. 946 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:24,978 [dramatic music] 947 00:37:29,049 --> 00:37:31,184 [dramatic music] 948 00:37:31,284 --> 00:37:36,690 I am just now aware of damage that happened, 949 00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:40,995 like to your family, and how bad it was. 950 00:37:41,095 --> 00:37:42,829 I don't believe that. 951 00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:45,966 If you're gonna take accountability, 952 00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:47,201 then take full accountability. 953 00:37:47,301 --> 00:37:49,169 You can't half-ass this one. 954 00:37:51,672 --> 00:37:55,542 Well, that's why I'm here having this conversation, 955 00:37:55,642 --> 00:37:57,177 is to take... 956 00:37:58,212 --> 00:37:59,513 ...full accountability. 957 00:37:59,613 --> 00:38:05,485 I said something ignorant and tried to fix it. 958 00:38:06,587 --> 00:38:10,958 And I did a lot of damage, and I'm sorry for the damage 959 00:38:11,058 --> 00:38:14,928 that I did to you and your family, and that's that. 960 00:38:15,362 --> 00:38:19,533 If there is a way we can work past this, 961 00:38:19,633 --> 00:38:23,437 I am willing to do what you need from me. 962 00:38:23,537 --> 00:38:26,740 Oh, I'm good. I don't need you to do anything. 963 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,009 I feel like that's good that you're at a place 964 00:38:29,110 --> 00:38:30,277 where you can take accountability. 965 00:38:30,377 --> 00:38:32,613 I think that's great for your personal growth. 966 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:35,449 Especially now that you're dating somebody that's black. 967 00:38:35,549 --> 00:38:37,651 And if you guys have babies, they're black. 968 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:39,753 If they get pulled over, 969 00:38:39,853 --> 00:38:41,321 they're not gonna say, "Hey, my mom is white." 970 00:38:41,421 --> 00:38:42,756 So, if you have a kid with him, 971 00:38:42,856 --> 00:38:44,492 they're not gonna have the same privileges 972 00:38:44,592 --> 00:38:46,994 of your other kid-- of your other kids or you. 973 00:38:47,427 --> 00:38:49,630 So, I hope that you take time to understand that 974 00:38:49,730 --> 00:38:52,365 and educate yourself on that, because if not, 975 00:38:52,465 --> 00:38:54,334 you're just as ignorant as you were two years ago. 976 00:38:54,434 --> 00:38:56,636 If I could go back and change anything, 977 00:38:56,737 --> 00:38:58,338 I would've never brought you into it. 978 00:38:58,438 --> 00:39:00,474 And looking back, like, that's where I see 979 00:39:00,574 --> 00:39:02,442 where I really, really, really messed up. 980 00:39:05,846 --> 00:39:10,083 I am sorry for how this affected you and your family. 981 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:12,719 Okay. 982 00:39:12,820 --> 00:39:16,890 Like, I, I'm coming to you as woman to woman, mom to mom. 983 00:39:17,958 --> 00:39:19,126 Alright. 984 00:39:19,727 --> 00:39:23,363 Nothing I could have said or done 985 00:39:23,463 --> 00:39:26,000 could convince her I am sorry. 986 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:33,607 [dramatic club music] 987 00:39:33,707 --> 00:39:37,544 I was kind of in the pool, sort of eavesdropping, 988 00:39:37,644 --> 00:39:40,413 and I could just see Cheyenne shutting down a lot 989 00:39:40,514 --> 00:39:42,082 and Mackenzie shutting down a lot. 990 00:39:42,183 --> 00:39:43,517 So, I don't know if this felt like 991 00:39:43,617 --> 00:39:45,986 a very pressured conversation or what. 992 00:39:46,419 --> 00:39:48,355 How do you think it went? 993 00:39:49,823 --> 00:39:50,724 Uh... 994 00:39:50,824 --> 00:39:52,159 -Awkward? -Yeah. 995 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:54,928 Like, it is what it is, like, I just... 996 00:39:55,028 --> 00:39:56,730 I'm never good with words. 997 00:39:56,830 --> 00:39:59,333 [Cate] And I heard you apologize, 998 00:39:59,433 --> 00:40:00,668 that's all you can do. 999 00:40:00,768 --> 00:40:02,602 -Yeah? -[Cate] You know what I mean? 1000 00:40:03,403 --> 00:40:07,374 The conversation with Mackenzie and Cheyenne did not go well. 1001 00:40:07,474 --> 00:40:09,242 Like, if I were in Mackenzie's shoes, 1002 00:40:09,342 --> 00:40:12,579 I would just let it happen on their own time. 1003 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,115 Don't let it take away from the experience 1004 00:40:15,215 --> 00:40:16,283 that you could have here. 1005 00:40:16,383 --> 00:40:17,717 -Yeah. -You know what I mean? 1006 00:40:21,322 --> 00:40:22,389 [Cheyenne] I didn't like it. 1007 00:40:22,489 --> 00:40:25,259 I felt like I gave her enough of, like, 1008 00:40:25,893 --> 00:40:28,662 I'm glad your accountability, I think that's great for you. 1009 00:40:28,762 --> 00:40:30,630 What I can't do for you is feed into... 1010 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:32,666 -[Maci] The bull[bleep]. -[Cheyenne] The bull[bleep]. 1011 00:40:32,766 --> 00:40:35,435 You're a liar. You're an actual liar. 1012 00:40:35,535 --> 00:40:38,204 [Jade] Cheyenne and Mackenzie had their first chat. 1013 00:40:38,305 --> 00:40:39,940 Mackenzie is wanting a friendship, 1014 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,809 and I think Cheyenne just wants to move past it 1015 00:40:42,910 --> 00:40:44,411 and is not wanting the same thing. 1016 00:40:44,511 --> 00:40:46,246 So, I just don't think they're on the same page. 1017 00:40:46,346 --> 00:40:48,415 [Mackenzie] I'm not forcing anyone to like me 1018 00:40:48,515 --> 00:40:51,484 [indistinct] I never meant to hurt anyone. 1019 00:40:51,584 --> 00:40:53,587 [Jade] Maybe, like, the more time that goes on here, 1020 00:40:53,687 --> 00:40:55,422 the more you'll see the real 1021 00:40:55,522 --> 00:40:56,890 -person she is. -Yeah. 1022 00:40:56,990 --> 00:40:59,326 Which I agree, and I hope that that's the situation. 1023 00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:02,663 We'll move past it, but understand you asking me, 1024 00:41:02,763 --> 00:41:05,366 "What, what do you want from me? What do you need me to do?" 1025 00:41:05,466 --> 00:41:06,666 -Nothing. -[Woman] Nothing. 1026 00:41:06,766 --> 00:41:08,602 I messed up. It was me. It was all me, 1027 00:41:08,702 --> 00:41:10,637 all my fault, and I'm sorry. 1028 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:18,779 [Jade] Next time on Teen Mom Family Reunion. 1029 00:41:18,879 --> 00:41:19,947 Go, go, go! 1030 00:41:20,047 --> 00:41:21,515 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop! 1031 00:41:21,615 --> 00:41:23,784 You don't often see Maci in this much pain. 1032 00:41:23,884 --> 00:41:25,119 This looks really bad. 1033 00:41:25,219 --> 00:41:26,486 I'm just scared of death. 1034 00:41:26,586 --> 00:41:28,222 Like, I just watched my mom take her last breath. 1035 00:41:28,322 --> 00:41:29,990 And then my life fell apart after. 1036 00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:32,659 I can't imagine. I'm sorry. 1037 00:41:32,759 --> 00:41:33,861 [Woman] Hello? 1038 00:41:33,961 --> 00:41:35,695 Hoo-whee! 1039 00:41:39,733 --> 00:41:51,778 [upbeat guitar music] 1040 00:42:06,426 --> 00:42:08,261 [music]