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- Tonight on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"...
- Everybody are a reflection of their mommy.
- I don't know if I want to be.
[laughter]
- I just don't like that dirty-[bleep] bitch.
- I'm not doing this.
I'm not feeding this bitch anything.
- Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave.
- She said she had no problem with you.
- Who she say that to, Jesus?
- She just packs it away and tries to, like,
act like it never happened, so I'm like,
how do I heal?
- Ryan, tell me, what is your vision
for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci?
- Oh, man. This is emotional.
- We're gonna make good memories, God damn it.
- Besties for the resties.
[laughter]
- ♪ I know some people ♪
♪ They would die for me, die for me ♪
♪ We run together, they're my family ♪
- Welcome to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath."
I'm your host, Nessa.
Now, after the success of the first family reunion,
the teen moms decided to do it again,
and this time around they were joined
by some "Young and Pregnant" moms as well as the grandmas.
Tonight the cast is here to tell us all about
their unforgettable experience, so please welcome Amber,
Maci, Kayla, Kiaya, Cheyenne,
Catelynn, Briana, Jade,
Tiffany, Margaret, Roxanne,
and Christy.
And later we'll be sitting down with Ashley and her mom Tea.
And sitting next to me is our favorite life coach, Coach B.
All right, Coach B, how do you feel
sitting here right now?
- I mean, well, I always feel good to be able to see what--
I always say my babies-- after we've done so much work.
And I have to say that this season
there was more trust in themself,
and there was more trust in the process and me,
so it made for not easier but a better working environment.
- Got it.
- For the moms who went to the first family reunion,
how did it compare?
- It just felt safer,
because we did have that bond with Coach B,
but we also had the safe space within us.
So whereas, like, last year I was, like,
"I wonder what this exercise is gonna be?"
This year it's like, "Can't wait for the exercise today.
What's going on?"
You know, we were, like, eager to--to do the work.
- Got it.
Kayla, how did you feel stepping into the retreat?
- At first I was a little nervous.
'Cause I know coming into it everyone had bonds already,
and I didn't know if I'd be able to create the same bonds.
'Cause I'm kind of closed off. - Mm-hmm.
- But they were super welcoming,
and now I really feel like I'm part of the "Teen Mom" family.
- Oh, I like that. - Yes.
- Why isn't your mom here today?
- Oh, my mom's on vacation.
She's living her best life.
- And, Kiaya, how about for you?
Were you surprised-- - Oh, I had a blast.
- You had a blast? - A blast.
- Love you. - Love you.
And yeah. - Did you feel
that the moms, you know, they embraced you?
- 100%.
I can't say everybody. [laughs]
But everyone on this stage did.
And it was a great experience.
And I love them, and I'm just, like,
besties for the resties.
[laughter]
- Bri, were you nervous to bring your mom?
- Um, yes and no.
I was excited for my mom to experience this.
I think me and her really needed to be here.
- Mm-hmm.
- But no, because there was a lot of stuff going online
with a certain grandmother, and, you know,
my mom is a ride-or-die.
- I don't give a [bleep]. - She protects me.
- I don't give a [bleep]. - And I didn't want
the situation to escalate. - I don't give a [bleep].
- But it ended up happening... - I don't give a [bleep].
- That way anyways.
- Mm, all right.
Of course the biggest difference this time
was the involvement of the grandmas.
And their presence shook up the family reunion
in ways nobody expected.
Let's look back and see what happened.
- Ah, damn.
- This year I decided we need to bring our own moms.
- Hi. - Oh, wow.
- Hi, you guys. - Hello.
- Hey, girls. Hi.
- Whoo!
- Surprise, bitches.
"Young and Pregnant" is here.
- Here's to us being amazing parents
and doing better than what our parents have done.
- Love you guys.
- Ooh, [bleep].
- Ahh! [laughs]
- This reunion we want to work on
the intergenerational issues.
Chey often mirrors her mom towards you.
She's gonna need a man.
- I always kind of feel like the girl that cried wolf
with my feelings.
- I had a great exercise with my mom.
That's something that I think we really needed.
Don't cry.
- Who's the mom in the relationship?
- I feel like I am.
- Because you're so [bleep] strong.
You always have been.
- Good morning, Briana.
Good morning, Ashley.
- Tea tried to say good morning to me,
but I didn't say anything back.
I don't want to talk to them.
I know the type of person that they are.
Fake as [bleep].
- Roxanne gon' keep trying me and I'ma push that bitch
down there on the ground.
- Your daughter's a bully.
- I'm coming for your mother[bleep] ass.
- [bleep] you, and [bleep] your mom.
- I'm not sure how we're gonna come back from this.
- Oh, my God. You're kidding. - Wow.
- And obviously we do have to address
the fight that took place.
Any thoughts about that?
- To me the most, like,
heartbreaking part was to see how defeated Bri looked.
[voice breaking] And for somebody--mm, sorry.
- No, don't be sorry.
- Being somebody who struggles with, like,
controlling yourself or expressing your emotions,
it broke my heart. - Yeah.
- Everybody on the internet attack her.
It pissed me off so bad, because
regardless, we're all moms.
Her kids are gonna have to watch her get spit on.
Ashley took no accountability.
And I don't care what they threw after the fact.
It's humiliating, and none of us deserves that.
A much as we don't really [bleep] with Ashley like that,
she doesn't even deserve that.
And I'm so sorry that that happened to you, Bri,
and, like, I felt so helpless.
Like, I really did.
- Thank you. I appreciate that.
- Everybody here knows, 'cause it was said many times,
"Why do you think Ashley's never said
something about you compared to"--
yeah, I don't know, but I'll tell you this right now.
I'm disappointed, because I believe in this girl,
and I believe that she can change.
I say this because of what I've been through
and how many bridges I've burned.
- Right. - So I have to say that.
But I am disappointed.
- I know there are a lot of feeling about it.
And we are gonna hear from everybody.
And we are gonna have Ashley and her mom
to make sure that they have the space to share
their thoughts, right?
So let's switch gears for a second.
Tiffany, for you, were you surprised that you revealed
so much about your life?
- Yeah.
I was so excited about this trip, being invited,
and I was like, "Whatever activity we're doing,
let's do it; like, I want to do everything."
- Yeah. Christy, if you could do one thing over again
and do it differently what would it be?
- Not get COVID.
- Right. - Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. - Yeah.
- Hell yeah. - I was quarantined
for six days, so I missed out on everything, but...
- Uh-huh. - Yeah.
- But it's amazing how quickly that you do build bonds
with everybody, like, we love each other like family, so...
- That's awesome. - Mm.
- We need to take a quick break.
But more with all of these incredible moms when we return.
[applause]
Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"...
- I've never heard her say that she was sorry.
- Later tonight...
- That didn't look like a bump to me.
- Bumped or not, you don't spit on somebody.
- Yeah. - So...
- Ugh.
- As far as your commitment to Bentley as his father,
can you commit to be consistent?
- [sniffles]
[dramatic music]
[applause]
- Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
I'm now sitting here with Jade and Christy.
[applause]
Jade, what was the biggest takeaway
from this experience at "Family Reunion"?
- I was kind of nervous bringing my mom,
'cause I think she has a really big personality.
People either love or hate her,
'cause she's just so herself and just so opinionated
and headstrong, and, like,
some people can be a little intimidated by that
kind of, like, assertive kind of energy.
But everyone loved her
and had so much fun with her, so I was like,
"Oh, great," like, 'cause I was like,
"This is gonna go one of two ways."
And it went the best way, so I was--I was really happy.
- Now, Jade, you shared a lot about your childhood.
And it got really heavy when you shared, you know,
what you went through and about your dad.
- My dad, you know, committing suicide
when I was a child.
Closure with my mom would be--
having a good relationship, a happy one,
that to me would be closure...
- From the past. - From the doors before, yes.
- All, right. Okay.
- With my biological father,
no one knows him, because he passed away so early,
so I think me and my aunt hold this bond of, like,
we can mourn him.
- Why did you feel it was a safe space
to bring it up at "Family Reunion"?
- I don't like having things, like, not talked about.
I feel like we're all so closed
that I thought it was appropriate.
And also hearing Kiaya really voice about
how she was going through things, you know,
certain, like, feelings of guilt,
and, you know, sadness with her father,
me and her can, like, relate in some aspect with that.
It's so important to voice to the world, like,
about suicide, about depression,
about mental health is such a big thing.
And stuff like this is real.
- Do you feel more comfortable talking about it now?
- Yeah, 'cause I talk a lot with my aunt that, you know,
knows so much about it, I mean, grew up in it,
and I can ask all these questions,
and I feel like with my mom
and, you know, my dad growing up
I felt like it was rude of me to ask stuff,
because it was almost like
I was gonna hurt my dad's feelings
by bringing up my biological dad.
- I feel uncomfortable
saying anything about him, period,
because I didn't want to, like, upset you kind of.
Well, we were together when he committed suicide, so, like,
it--it, like, about-- oh, I mean,
it really took it out of me, you know?
Like, I was 20 or 21.
- I think it was, like, traumatic
for everybody involved, so...
[indistinct].
- I mean, me and him were very compatible.
- Yeah. - And--no.
I don't want to say anything.
- Well, I think if anything, when you guys go back home,
maybe this is a gateway to begin those conversations.
- Yeah. - Hopefully, right?
- Yeah. - Mm-hmm.
- One of the most emotional moments
of this "Family Reunion" happened when Christy took part
in Coach B's Into the Mirror session.
Let's take a look back at what happened.
[gentle piano music]
- How do you believe your drug addiction affected Jade?
- She seeing me giving up.
- Yeah.
Did you give up on being a mom?
- I would say no, but...
- What do you think Jade would say?
- I think that she might say yeah.
- At what point do you plan on forgiving yourself
for all this stuff, or do you ever want to?
- I want to.
- Look in here.
Jade...
- Jade...
- I hope you can forgive me...
- While I work on forgiving myself.
- My future plans for you are...
to show you a good mom and good grandma
and build a better, stronger relationship.
Jade, I'm sorry.
♪ ♪
- Jade, this is a huge healing moment.
How do you feel watching that right now?
- I feel better, 'cause I've never heard her
say that she was sorry.
There's been things that we've been through
that have, like, molded me and has changed me
that have terrified me.
And it's, like, I think she just packs it away
and tries to, like, act like it never happened,
so I'm, like, how do I heal...
when you don't talk about anything?
- There's been a lot of reactions.
It's very emotional after watching that.
Maci, what are your thoughts right now?
- Um...
- I love you.
- I just want to, like, hug Jade so tight that,
like, she explodes.
- [laughs] - I love her so much.
And, Christy, you deserve to be happy,
and I think sometimes you don't think you do.
- Yeah, I think I watched her so long be unhappy
that it's pissing me off now that, like,
she's not that-- in that horrible state of,
like, addiction,
and I still see you sad, and I'm, like,
we missed out on so many happy times.
- But--but it's not the end of everything.
- I know that I want to make them,
so I'm pushing her. - That's right.
- I'm, like, let's make happy memories.
We're gonna make good memories, God damn it.
- You guys are gonna make great memories.
[applause] A round of applause
for great memories, please.
And just know you are loved and supported 100%, okay?
- I know. Yeah.
- When we come back, we'll turn our attention to Cate.
[applause]
Up next...
Hey, Cate, how did you feel?
- My heart's literally racing with anxiety.
- Okay, here we go.
♪ ♪
[applause]
- We're back with "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
I'm now here with Cate.
- Hi. - Hi.
- How are you? - So--I'm good.
You mom, April, is part of the series,
but she's not here today.
- They had some family medical problems happen
with her father-in-law, so I understand.
That's more important than this.
- Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- Now let's talk about bungee jumping.
You weren't a fan of it.
- Hell no. [laughter]
- Why were you scared? Talk to us a bit.
- I don't know.
Literally, like, heights are my big--
one of my biggest fears.
- Okay, so how did you talk yourself out of it?
- Um, it had a lot to do with, like, Amber and Maci.
Um, I would say, like,
Maci was very much like, "I promise you"--
she's like, "I would tell you if the [bleep] was dumb
and scary as [bleep], don't do it."
She was like, "If you don't do it,
you're gonna regret not doing it."
And Amber was, like, the same way.
She's like, "And it was so freeing,"
and, like, all this stuff.
And then I was thinking of how many times in my life
have I been scared to do something and not do it
and then regretted it?
Or, like, how many times maybe I've held myself back
by not stepping out of my comfort zone?
Which has been a lot.
- How proud were you
when you saw Cate do it? - I was so proud of her.
- Oh, my gosh. - Oh, my gosh.
We--I was, like, screaming...
- Yes. - Over the thing, like---
- I feel like we almost fell over.
- Yeah. - 'Cause we were like,
"Oh, my gosh. You did it." - Oh, man.
- Oh, I knew she-- like, as soon as she did it
she was gonna be like, "[bleep] yeah."
- Yeah, it was good.
- Okay, well, there was concern that April's drinking
negatively affected Cate during her time in Oregon,
especially when it came to the Unstuck activity.
Let's take a look back at that moment.
[gentle music]
- What is it that we're working on with Mom
that you want to address?
- I feel like sometimes when I express my true feelings
and how I feel she'll throw my husband in the mix
and be like, "Oh, that's what Tyler would tell you to do."
- So then she gaslights you to make you think that
your opinions are coming from somebody else.
- Yes. And so for me,
it comes from a point of, like, just realize that
you raised a strong [bleep] woman.
- I don't worry about you,
because you're so [bleep] strong
I don't have to worry about you.
And you wanted [bleep] rules... - Stay--Cate, there.
Cate, stay there. Stay there.
There--and you just gave up on her.
Cate, how did it feel when she dropped the rope?
- That she was, like, mad and upset at me.
- 'Cause that's my reaction.
- Gently pull her in at a pace that will work for her.
Can you do that?
- Yep.
Come on, baby. Come on.
I got you.
I freaking got you. - I know, Mom.
- Okay, Cate, talk to me a little bit about that moment.
How did you feel?
- Um, I felt powerful in that moment,
like, saying things to her
that I've never told her before.
I mean, watching it back, my heart's literally racing
with anxiety.
I need to work better at, like, just expressing my feelings
and emotions to her and not protecting
how it affects her.
The first time I notice it was at "Family Reunion,"
but anytime I would say something to her
about how I felt, like, negatively, like,
"Hey, when you did this it really hurt my feelings
or I was really sad or I felt abandoned,"
I would always start with,
"I know you did the best you could,"
so I'm always, like, subconsciously trying to, like,
protect her feelings
like I'm the parent almost.
- Do you--was she-- was your mom drinking
at that point, do you know?
- Oh, yeah. We both were.
My mom has always said, like, when she drinks she gets very--
it brings out confidence in her.
My mom's not a very confident person.
Also when my mom drinks, like, if you don't do the right thing
or if you say something
she can become very nasty.
So... - Yeah.
- Mm-hmm. - Now, for the other moms,
how was it for you to see Cate and her mom
in their interaction during the Unstuck activity?
- I feel like I kind of felt everything Cate was.
Like, when I realized that Cate was gonna go there,
I was like--and I-- truth be told,
I was saying like, "I really hope Cate goes there.
Like, I hope she goes all the way in."
She will not say her feelings
to spare someone else's feelings.
- So were you happy to see Cate stand up for herself
and her feelings?
- Very happy. - Got it.
Cate was so upset after Unstuck
that she called her husband Tyler
to come to Oregon and be there for her.
And to hear about what he went through
after he arrived, please welcome Tyler.
[applause]
- Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, all these ladies.
Hey, how's it going, Nessa? - Nice to see you.
- How's it going? Hey, yeah, yeah, here we are.
- So, Ty, when you got the call from Cate,
did you know immediately what she was going through?
- Oh, yeah. I could hear it in her voice.
And it's funny, because we had this thing where it's, like,
the moment she was like, "Hello," I was like, "Hello."
And I could just-- she broke down,
and I was like, "Okay, um, here we go.
"Like, let's--let's-- we gotta get in go mode.
"What's happening over there?
"Like, how are they taking caring of you?
Like, what's happening?" - Yeah.
He was actually the one too, though,
who brought it to my attention, 'cause I was like,
"I don't know why I'm waking up
with all this panic and anxiety."
And he was the one who brought it to my attention.
He's like, "Give yourself a little grace.
"You did just open up some really deep stuff
with your mom yesterday."
- So, Cate, how did Ty's presence
improve the situation between you and your mom?
- Um, it didn't improve the situation
between me and my mom.
I think it just helped me process
where this anxiety was coming from.
He has been on this walk with me
through my mental health journey from the beginning.
You know, like, Ty and I might be married,
but we're also, like, best [bleep] friends.
So, like, he's my, like, my--my support person,
and, like, I just feel ten times better after, like,
processing things with him of, like,
why am I feeling like this?
What--what could be bringing this up?
Like, you know, or sometimes you just want
that special person when you're super anxious or depressed,
like, I just want to be held so I can cry and I feel safe,
you know, like, so it just--
it really just-- it helped me a lot
to be able to process things that were going on.
- Yeah, that's why I knew. I was, like, all right,
on a plane, we gotta go. Wife's freaking out.
Like, what are they doing for her over there?
Like, and plus, I'm on the other side of the country.
I don't know what's going on with the, you know...
- Right. - Behind the scenes and stuff.
So yeah, I was nervous.
- Another thing that upset you, Ty,
during this family reunion was the dirty kitchen.
- [laughs]
Yo! - Oh, my God.
- Listen-- - Are you a neat freak?
- No, I ain't, really. I'm not.
I mean, you know-- - You were upset.
- It was crazy. I sweeped the whole house,
and then I go in the kitchen. I'm, like, what the [bleep]?
- And then he's like, "Are you guys all animals?"
- I said, "You guys party hard as hell."
I said, "Damn, this is worse than a bachelor pad.
Holy [bleep]." Yeah, I had to start cleaning.
- So do all the moms agree that the kitchen was dirty?
- I can say-- I'm with you, man.
- Yeah, you saw. - I bought so many white socks,
and they were black by the time I left.
And it was ridiculous. - Yo.
- But I can say, though,
we did attempt to clean the kitchen.
- We did. - Were you guys drunk?
- We was told that someone was gonna come in and clean it.
So we just let it sit there, 'cause we had stuff to do.
- Oh, really? - Yeah.
- Oh. - But it was dirty, Ty.
- Maybe it was a setup.
Maybe they just-- - No, we still got it done.
- Oh, okay. - It was just annoying,
I think, to everyone all the time.
- That situation did happen the same day as the mud day,
so it was the next day having the fight in the mud.
- Yo. - You guys couldn't get to it.
- Hell, no, we couldn't. - Yeah, yeah, [bleep].
[all speaking at once]
- There was a lot going on. Fair enough.
- Can't drink my coffee in filth
so I had to start cleaning.
- My mom was trying to wash the dishes, though.
- Thank you so much, Cate. Thank you so much, Ty.
It's always great to see you two.
I appreciate you both being here.
We'll be back right after this.
[applause]
Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"...
Was that surprising to any of the other moms.
- I mean, yeah, the spitting part definitely.
- Ugh. Ugh.
- Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave.
- Wait, hold on. Bri, wait.
- What is happening though?
[applause]
- Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
This season of "Family Reunion" featured one of
the biggest fights in the history of "Teen Mom."
It was a huge blowup between Ashley and her mom Tea
and Briana and her mom Roxanne.
And now we'd like to hear from the rest of the cast.
But before we get into it,
let's take a look back at what went down.
[gentle music]
♪ ♪
- What's the problem, Roxanne? - I don't want to watch this.
- The problem is that your daughter
inserted herself in a situation
that she had no business inserting herself.
No, she had not business to do what she did.
She was so [bleep] disrespectful.
Shame on her.
My daughter would never talk to any mother
in this [bleep] table
the way your daughter speaks to me.
- Well, Roxanne-- - I don't want to hear it.
- Roxanne-- - You have nothing to say
to me-- - I don't give
a [bleep], bitch.
- No, you hold on. - I don't give a [bleep].
I don't give a [bleep].
- [indistinct shouting] - I don't give a [bleep].
- Mom. - I don't give a [bleep].
I don't-- - [bleep] you, ho.
- No, [bleep] you. - Bitch!
- I can't. I can't.
- Oh, you can say "excuse me."
- Stop. Stop being so dramatic.
- You bump me, I'ma grab your mother[bleep] ass then.
- Shut up. Ugh. - I didn't bump you.
- You did. - No.
- You did, [bleep]. - Mother, you don't know.
- Bri was actually trying to be really cordial.
- [bleep], you stop with the [bleep].
- No, you stop with the [bleep].
- No, 'cause if y'all want to go toes, we really can.
- I'm [bleep] pissed. - We really can.
- Let's go. Let's go. - [bleep] this bitch.
- Let's go. 'Cause they don't want that. Let's go.
- We really can. - Come on. Out we go.
- Why you up there? - Let's go. Let's go.
- Get down, baby. Get down. - Go.
- Bri, hell the [bleep] no.
- Let's go. - Get down, [bleep].
- No, so I could kick you in your [bleep] throat.
- Get down. 'Cause you can't fight?
- No, [bleep] you, bitch. - 'Cause you can't fight?
- [bleep] you. - Get down.
- [bleep] my [bleep], Ash. - [spits]
[dramatic music] - Ew.
- Bitch.
[all shouting]
- Come on, bitch. - [bleep] you.
- Oh, you want to throw? - [bleep].
- You want to throw, bitch?
- [bleep] you. [bleep] you.
- I'm not even-- I'm not doing this.
Let's go. I'm not doing this.
I'm not feeding this bitch anything.
- Mom, stay here. Come on. - No, I'm done.
I'm going home. - 'Cause we have--
- I'm not doing it. I'm [bleep] going home.
That [bleep] pissed me off seeing it again.
- Ugh. Ugh.
- So did that look like a bump to y'all?
It just looked like she just grazed past her.
That didn't look like a bump to me.
- At the end of the day-- - Can we replay it?
'Cause it didn't look like a bump to me.
- I didn't--yeah, I wasn't sure.
- It just looked like she just, like, you know,
you too close to somebody. - Bumped or not,
you don't spit on somebody, so that's--
- We're gonna go to-- - I want to go to the hotel.
I'm gonna go home.
I'm not doing this [bleep] with that bitch
after watching that [bleep]. - Where did my shoes go?
- I guess, Kiaya, for you,
how do you feel after watching that?
- That makes me not want to deal with
that type of person at all.
And I don't think that they're genuine people.
I think that both of them lack maturity.
I think we can all agree that Ashley is a smart girl.
And I just feel like she [bleep] herself up a lot.
Like, I feel like she digs herself in a lot of holes
- Was that surprising to any of the other moms?
- I mean... - The spitting?
- Yeah, the spitting part definitely.
- That part.
- It's kind of like the Farrah situation all over again.
- Yep.
- Because now she gets to come onstage by herself
and not deal with the accountability
or listen to what people have to say
and then paint this own picture like she has been doing
that she's the victim.
And that's not fair.
- Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave.
- Wait, hold on, Bri. Wait, hold on.
- What is happening? - Just at least tell me
what happened so I can-- just at least tell me.
- What's going on?
- I think my mom deserves to speak.
- From my understanding, you and your mom
have your own act coming up.
- We're not on the couch. It's just too much.
- No, no, no, no, no. Bri,
you and your mom have your own--
- It doesn't matter. None of that matters.
- But, Bri, we all have your back; I hope you know that.
- Yeah, I understand that, but right now
my mom is frustrated.
- Okay. - Oh, no.
- But you guys have your own act.
- It's just too much.
I love you guys, and I'll see you guys at the hotel.
- We love you too. - We love you too.
- Love you. - Love you too, Bri.
- What just happened?
- I mean, honestly, we weren't in the fight.
This isn't our conversation. - Yeah.
- This is a conversation that if we're gonna be a part of
and put our input into... - Everybody should.
- Everybody should be present.
Bri and Roxanne should be here.
- Why in the hell would Bri not be present?
- So I'm not gonna sit here and speak on Bri
and how she may or may not feel.
I'm not gonna speak on Ashley on how she may not feel.
I wasn't in the fight. I didn't get spit on.
I wasn't the person who spit.
- I think they wanted to know how you guys felt,
because you were there.
But they have their own act, just so everyone's aware.
All right, let's pause right here.
And we'll be back right after this.
[applause]
- Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
Let's get back into it.
I don't know if there's a different way to look
at the situation.
Maybe is there any understanding or grace
that maybe Ashley might have had
different feelings at the time.
She was pregnant. both: No.
- We got sent home for that [bleep] bitch
spitting on my daughter.
That's [bleep] shady, and then we have to wait
the whole day to anticipate the worst.
You can't pull people's strings like that.
That's wrong. - Wait, Roxanne.
- Lets'-- let's hear from Tiffany.
- Sorry, but then you go home and go on social media
and talk about that girl's kids.
Your family talks about her kids.
- Body shaming them too.
- Babies, and body shaming. - Body shaming the kids?
- Why would-- - No, the girls.
- Jade and Bri and...
- I think Ashley's sister called Bri's kids--
- Mismatch. - Mismatch.
- Because she has two... - Mix-matched.
- Baby daddies, so I just--
I guess I'm mismatched too, 'cause...
- I'm mismatched too. Don't wanna lie.
- I got two baby daddies.
- I think everybody in here mismatched.
Well, Margaret, you're usually the voice of reason.
- I was just really sad that the situation happened
from the standpoint of the girls.
All of them endure so much.
It was just sad.
I think what bothered me more is that as a mom, and...
- Yeah. - We know what they all endure.
So another mother should not do that.
We've got to do better. both: Yeah.
- It's sad.
She spit my daughter in the face.
She's the one that got rowdy.
She's the one that invited the fight.
What the [bleep]?
- So let me ask you--
let me ask the moms and the grandmas this.
Do we see any possible healing in this?
[together] No.
- Seriously. - 'Cause she doesn't--
because she doesn't take accountability.
- If Ashley was to come back on the show
right now in the reunion or next season,
then what does that look like for you ladies and
how do you coexist?
How do we resolve? How does that look?
- I think some people are so comfortable in dysfunction
that dysfunction is just normal.
- Okay. - Coach B, let me ask you.
Do you think there's a road to healing?
- I think that there's a road to healing.
Do I think it's gonna happen tonight on this reunion?
No.
And so again it's a process.
I don't think it's something that we can have
one conversation with
and then, you know, Ashley is gonna just say,
"Hey, you know, I'm just gonna apologize,
take accountability, and then I'm gonna shift up
a lot of the things I've been knowing all my life.
- I think we joined this show-- I know for myself--
to share my story and to... - Yep.
- Be able to just have one person relate
and reach out and say, "Thank you for sharing
"the deepest and darkest moments and all your secrets,
because you're helping me get through mine."
I didn't sign up to get attacked online
or through podcasts or through online bullying.
I'm here to share my story, and that's it.
We're in an environment that's around...
- Interact-- very interactive.
- Everyone, and the whole point,
it's called "Family Reunion."
We're supposed to do things together.
- As a family. - I would not feel safe.
I wouldn't feel comfortable.
Because I don't know if one day you're gonna flip
and then you're spitting on me.
I wouldn't even put myself in that situation.
So if we did it again, I would have to decline.
I don't think I would do another show with her.
I mean, I know I wouldn't do another show with her.
- As her mom, if they were coming,
I'd be uncomfortable.
Because physical violence to me is just no.
- A no-go. - A no-go.
We can't have that.
That's dangerous. It was really ugly.
- And that's why, Margaret, that they didn't want
everyone onstage.
- Yeah. No, I understand.
I'm praying for them, and I pray that they're fine.
But I don't want any of these girls now--
now we're all family.
- Right, yes. - So I don't want to see
anyone hurt, and that was dangerous.
- And we do have Roxanne and Briana here.
And I want to make sure that they have
their space to share their thoughts.
And we'll hear from them after the break.
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- I don't to be a part of it.
I don't want to be near her.
If we do another one of these
and she's invited I will not come.
So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go.
- What part of the relationship
is your heart saying you miss with Bentley?
- Hell, just raising him.
[cheers and applause]
- Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
I'm joined on the couch now by Briana and her mom Roxanne.
[applause]
Okay, so there was a reaction from the both of you
during the last segment after the footage was aired.
You both were out the door already.
- Yeah. - What made you come back?
- Larry. - Morgan.
- So Larry and Morgan are producers of the show,
so tell us what they said.
- They have a way with their words.
- Yeah, they were understanding and compassionate
of the reaction that we had after watching the--
watching that for the first time.
- Okay, well-- - Yeah.
- That what I want to kind of talk about.
- Right. - So it comes on.
You're watching in the back.
What comes up for you?
- Just anger.
'Cause I wish--I saw myself, and I was just so calm.
Seeing her so aggressive and me so calm,
I wish I matched her energy.
She is such a nasty person,
and that's just the only thing that comes out of me
when I see her.
- So when you set up on top of the counter, right,
you don't feel like you kind of matched
her energy a little bit there?
You feel like that was still being calm?
- In the moment. - I feel like there was
so much more to it.
Like, the clip just didn't justify,
like, what really occurred.
Like, there was just so much.
But watching it, it's, like,
there was no reason for me to get sent home.
- I feel like a lot of the trigger was,
"Wait a minute.
If I was gonna get sent home..."
- I should have just [bleep] her up.
- So when you hopped on top of the table,
that was before or after?
'Cause I'm trying to see-- - That was before
she spit at me. - Okay, I got it.
- I think her way to get to me because I was so high
was to spit on me.
- So much happened so fast.
- Like, it took a second for it to register, like,
did I just get spit on?
Like, I don't even know where it went.
- What caused all this friction?
- Because Ashley doesn't know how to
mind her [bleep] business.
She's friends with Miss [bleep] Irrelevant,
but whatever problems I have with the bitch that sued me,
Ashley always wants to chime in, comment,
say all these things, and her mom wants to
talk [bleep] about me and my sex life.
Like, it was a whole bunch of stuff.
She's so notorious for going online
and talking [bleep].
- You know, when the argument was between the girls
on social media, fine, whatever.
But when I realized that the mom now
has spoken about other girls,
and now she's talking about my daughter,
I knew that at some point I'm gonna address her.
And the worst part was this to me:
you go--you show up at "Family Reunion."
You're, like, chipping away and just trying to smile
and fit in wherever anybody just--
- Fake as [bleep]. Yeah.
- Wherever anybody pets you a little,
you just gonna wiggle your way in.
Fake, not authentic.
Excuse me.
Why don't you just address it in the beginning?
"Listen, ladies, I'm here with my daughter.
I apologize for my behavior in the past."
No, she pretended like nothing happened.
And the more I'm looking at her like,
"This mother[bleep] acting like she didn't do anything."
- So the tension started after you addressed her--
- At the dinner table. - Yeah, yeah.
- It erupted. - Yeah.
- 'Cause before that we were doing the mud pit.
- And it was great.
- It was wonderful. - Yeah.
- I had a great time.
- Although I was apprehensive,
I left feeling like, wow.
You connected every mom and every daughter.
I saw my daughter in all those girls.
And I saw myself in all those moms.
- Now, Coach B, you asked the other moms
if there is a road to healing.
How about-- - Never.
- I don't want to be a part of it.
I don't want to be near her.
If we do another one of these
and she's invited, I will not come.
So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go.
- How dangerous is it that after when we got back...
- Oh, let's bring that up. - She went on social media
and said that we knew she was pregnant.
- It's [bleep] up.
Like, don't say that. - That was dangerous.
- Because if I knew she was pregnant,
I would have completely ignored her.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
Bri, let me ask you this, 'cause I hear, you know,
you and Roxanne, and most of the girls too,
if not all, are saying, like, you know, no, no resolve.
But I do want to kind of cut into
you were there for the couple of days.
How was it for you?
- That makes me emotional.
Because I had such a great time.
The bungee jumping was amazing.
The mud pit was great, spending time with the girls.
I wanted my mom to experience this.
And it's like this stupid [bleep] bitch
took that away from me and my mom
and for the rest of the girls.
Like, I have true relationships with every single girl.
And it's, like, it's just frustrating.
- What do you think of, like, possibly, you know,
just doing some type of work
that provides tools on how to manage your anger
so that things are prevented
to even getting to a violent space?
I don't mind disagreements that are healthy
but not where it's getting physical
and people don't feel safe.
Because that's not gonna be the first time
that you're in a confrontation,
and I know it cost you your stay at the reunion.
- Yeah. - But losing your cool
can cost you your life.
And you've got kids and too much to lose.
- It's just hard to be a bigger person sometimes.
I want to be a little tiny, tiny person and...
- Yeah. - Do what I gotta do sometimes.
But, you know, I've come to realize that it's not--
it's not worth it sometimes.
- Small people also everything else is small.
That make sense? - Yeah.
- Thank you so much, Coach B,
for your words of wisdom as always.
Thank you so much, Roxanne and Briana...
- Thank you. - For coming back
and joining us and sharing your thoughts.
When we return, we'll have something that "Teen Mom" fans
haven't seen happen on a reunion stage in years,
Maci and Ryan on the couch together.
Trust me, you won't want to miss it.
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Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"...
- What would you would have done different?
- I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there
just to see him play ball or just putting myself first.
- [sobbing]
[applause]
- Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion:
The Aftermath."
I'm here with Maci,
Ryan, Jen, and Coach B.
[applause]
We asked the other moms and grandmas to leave the stage
so that there won't be any distractions
during this conversation.
All right, Maci.
What made you want Ryan and Jen at "Family Reunion"?
- Knowing how much I've learned and grew from the last one,
it was a good safe space but also a consistent space
where it's not just, like, one day and then months go by.
You know, it's a few days, and I just felt like
we would be able to work through some things
or at least put some stuff out on the table
and see where it went. - Right.
And, Ryan, for you, why didn't you want to attend
"Family Reunion"?
- I've got a job that I have to go to.
- Okay, and, Jen, how about for you?
- I think I just wanted to be able to talk to her
one-one-one... - Sure.
- First before we went public. - Yeah.
And at this point, Maci,
how long has it been since you've spoken to Ryan?
- It's been a long time.
- A long time. - Yeah.
- And how would you say your relationship
with Ryan, Jen-- how is it currently?
- Honestly, Ryan and I, like, it's just kind of nonexistent.
And with Jen, I feel like we are
definitely not in the really bad place that we all were...
- Sure. - A couple years ago,
but I don't think that either of us want to, like,
rush it or--'cause there is-- there's a lot of crap.
You know, there's a lot of stuff we--
we have to kind of sift through.
- And, Jen, how about for you?
When you hear what Maci has to say right now,
what are your thoughts?
- Oh, I mean, I agree.
There's a lot we need to talk about...
- Yeah. - Work through,
and I hope that we can,
would love to get a relationship back.
- Okay, well, Coach B, I'm gonna hand it over to you.
I'm hear if you need me.
- Got it. Thank you, Nessa.
Well, I first want to thank all of you for coming out
and trusting yourself to have this conversation.
It's not easy.
But before we dive into it,
I do want to start the conversation off
with Maci and Ryan, have a little chat with them,
and then I'll bring you back in...
- That is wonderful. - To poke at you a little bit.
Is that okay with you? - That is--that is--
makes me happy. - You got it. All righty.
- Thank you. - You got it.
All right, so, Ryan, tell me,
what is your vision
for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci
that would give Bentley the best experience
of his two parents?
- I would--I'd just like to be able to,
I guess, for Maci to be okay
with just being able to see him, really.
I mean, hell, I haven't got to spend any time with him,
just me, in a long time. [sniffles]
- [clears throat]
I'm gonna sit right here for a minute, 'kay?
Is that okay with you?
Okay.
- [voice breaking] Hell, I just miss him.
- What part of the relationship
is your heart saying you miss with Bentley?
- Hell, just raising him.
- What would you would have done different?
- I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there
just to see him play ball or just putting myself first.
- [sniffles]
- Yeah.
Do you think you can commit to showing up more?
- Yeah.
- So I think if you can commit to doing that
and communicating with him more,
I think that that'll start healing
that little boy's heart.
Yeah? - [sniffles]
- Do you believe you're in a place
to commit to being more consistent?
- Yeah, if I don't have to deal with everything else
that I've had to in the past.
- What's the everything else?
- Just everyone else in the way.
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- I just want us to try to build
our co-parenting foundation.
- I'm a survivor, baby.
- I don't have to always be the big, bad wolf.
I can chill.
- Oh, jeez. What's wrong?
- Oh, my gosh. - I don't know what's wrong.
- I got it. I got it. I got it. - Hey, hey, Jade.
- Yep, you're good. You're good.
- Can we get a medic out here?