1 00:00:00,967 --> 00:00:03,236 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:03,236 --> 00:00:06,940 - Tonight on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 3 00:00:06,940 --> 00:00:10,944 - Everybody are a reflection of their mommy. 4 00:00:10,944 --> 00:00:12,712 - I don't know if I want to be. 5 00:00:12,712 --> 00:00:14,848 [laughter] 6 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:17,050 - I just don't like that dirty-[bleep] bitch. 7 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:18,184 - I'm not doing this. 8 00:00:18,184 --> 00:00:20,353 I'm not feeding this bitch anything. 9 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:22,155 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 10 00:00:22,155 --> 00:00:24,224 - She said she had no problem with you. 11 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,659 - Who she say that to, Jesus? 12 00:00:26,659 --> 00:00:30,063 - She just packs it away and tries to, like, 13 00:00:30,063 --> 00:00:32,132 act like it never happened, so I'm like, 14 00:00:32,132 --> 00:00:34,667 how do I heal? 15 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:37,604 - Ryan, tell me, what is your vision 16 00:00:37,604 --> 00:00:41,441 for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci? 17 00:00:41,441 --> 00:00:43,543 - Oh, man. This is emotional. 18 00:00:43,543 --> 00:00:45,645 - We're gonna make good memories, God damn it. 19 00:00:45,645 --> 00:00:46,880 - Besties for the resties. 20 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,314 [laughter] 21 00:00:48,314 --> 00:00:49,716 - ♪ I know some people ♪ 22 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:52,419 ♪ They would die for me, die for me ♪ 23 00:00:52,419 --> 00:00:53,853 ♪ We run together, they're my family ♪ 24 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:56,456 - Welcome to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath." 25 00:00:56,456 --> 00:00:57,891 I'm your host, Nessa. 26 00:00:57,891 --> 00:01:00,794 Now, after the success of the first family reunion, 27 00:01:00,794 --> 00:01:03,229 the teen moms decided to do it again, 28 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:04,798 and this time around they were joined 29 00:01:04,798 --> 00:01:08,101 by some "Young and Pregnant" moms as well as the grandmas. 30 00:01:08,101 --> 00:01:10,103 Tonight the cast is here to tell us all about 31 00:01:10,103 --> 00:01:14,174 their unforgettable experience, so please welcome Amber, 32 00:01:14,174 --> 00:01:18,912 Maci, Kayla, Kiaya, Cheyenne, 33 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:22,382 Catelynn, Briana, Jade, 34 00:01:22,382 --> 00:01:25,685 Tiffany, Margaret, Roxanne, 35 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:27,787 and Christy. 36 00:01:27,787 --> 00:01:31,057 And later we'll be sitting down with Ashley and her mom Tea. 37 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:36,262 And sitting next to me is our favorite life coach, Coach B. 38 00:01:36,262 --> 00:01:37,997 All right, Coach B, how do you feel 39 00:01:37,997 --> 00:01:39,599 sitting here right now? 40 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:42,435 - I mean, well, I always feel good to be able to see what-- 41 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:45,839 I always say my babies-- after we've done so much work. 42 00:01:45,839 --> 00:01:48,441 And I have to say that this season 43 00:01:48,441 --> 00:01:50,410 there was more trust in themself, 44 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:52,579 and there was more trust in the process and me, 45 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:58,718 so it made for not easier but a better working environment. 46 00:01:58,718 --> 00:02:00,119 - Got it. 47 00:02:00,119 --> 00:02:02,255 - For the moms who went to the first family reunion, 48 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:03,823 how did it compare? 49 00:02:03,823 --> 00:02:05,158 - It just felt safer, 50 00:02:05,158 --> 00:02:07,293 because we did have that bond with Coach B, 51 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:12,165 but we also had the safe space within us. 52 00:02:12,165 --> 00:02:14,934 So whereas, like, last year I was, like, 53 00:02:14,934 --> 00:02:17,637 "I wonder what this exercise is gonna be?" 54 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:19,639 This year it's like, "Can't wait for the exercise today. 55 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,940 What's going on?" 56 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:23,476 You know, we were, like, eager to--to do the work. 57 00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:24,911 - Got it. 58 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:27,280 Kayla, how did you feel stepping into the retreat? 59 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,815 - At first I was a little nervous. 60 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:31,484 'Cause I know coming into it everyone had bonds already, 61 00:02:31,484 --> 00:02:33,620 and I didn't know if I'd be able to create the same bonds. 62 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:35,555 'Cause I'm kind of closed off. - Mm-hmm. 63 00:02:35,555 --> 00:02:37,156 - But they were super welcoming, 64 00:02:37,156 --> 00:02:39,392 and now I really feel like I'm part of the "Teen Mom" family. 65 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:41,361 - Oh, I like that. - Yes. 66 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:43,229 - Why isn't your mom here today? 67 00:02:43,229 --> 00:02:44,631 - Oh, my mom's on vacation. 68 00:02:44,631 --> 00:02:45,832 She's living her best life. 69 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:47,267 - And, Kiaya, how about for you? 70 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:48,735 Were you surprised-- - Oh, I had a blast. 71 00:02:48,735 --> 00:02:50,503 - You had a blast? - A blast. 72 00:02:50,503 --> 00:02:52,906 - Love you. - Love you. 73 00:02:52,906 --> 00:02:54,374 And yeah. - Did you feel 74 00:02:54,374 --> 00:02:56,576 that the moms, you know, they embraced you? 75 00:02:56,576 --> 00:02:57,911 - 100%. 76 00:02:57,911 --> 00:02:59,045 I can't say everybody. [laughs] 77 00:02:59,045 --> 00:03:02,115 But everyone on this stage did. 78 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:04,017 And it was a great experience. 79 00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:06,920 And I love them, and I'm just, like, 80 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:07,921 besties for the resties. 81 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:10,557 [laughter] 82 00:03:10,557 --> 00:03:12,559 - Bri, were you nervous to bring your mom? 83 00:03:12,559 --> 00:03:14,594 - Um, yes and no. 84 00:03:14,594 --> 00:03:16,696 I was excited for my mom to experience this. 85 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:19,165 I think me and her really needed to be here. 86 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:20,833 - Mm-hmm. 87 00:03:20,833 --> 00:03:23,069 - But no, because there was a lot of stuff going online 88 00:03:23,069 --> 00:03:26,039 with a certain grandmother, and, you know, 89 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:27,373 my mom is a ride-or-die. 90 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:28,741 - I don't give a [bleep]. - She protects me. 91 00:03:28,741 --> 00:03:30,209 - I don't give a [bleep]. - And I didn't want 92 00:03:30,209 --> 00:03:31,744 the situation to escalate. - I don't give a [bleep]. 93 00:03:31,744 --> 00:03:32,679 - But it ended up happening... - I don't give a [bleep]. 94 00:03:32,679 --> 00:03:33,947 - That way anyways. 95 00:03:33,947 --> 00:03:35,648 - Mm, all right. 96 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:37,350 Of course the biggest difference this time 97 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:39,185 was the involvement of the grandmas. 98 00:03:39,185 --> 00:03:41,387 And their presence shook up the family reunion 99 00:03:41,387 --> 00:03:43,590 in ways nobody expected. 100 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:45,558 Let's look back and see what happened. 101 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:47,527 - Ah, damn. 102 00:03:47,527 --> 00:03:50,663 - This year I decided we need to bring our own moms. 103 00:03:50,663 --> 00:03:52,665 - Hi. - Oh, wow. 104 00:03:52,665 --> 00:03:53,900 - Hi, you guys. - Hello. 105 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:54,934 - Hey, girls. Hi. 106 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:56,536 - Whoo! 107 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:57,837 - Surprise, bitches. 108 00:03:57,837 --> 00:03:59,272 "Young and Pregnant" is here. 109 00:03:59,272 --> 00:04:00,807 - Here's to us being amazing parents 110 00:04:00,807 --> 00:04:02,909 and doing better than what our parents have done. 111 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:04,043 - Love you guys. 112 00:04:04,043 --> 00:04:05,445 - Ooh, [bleep]. 113 00:04:05,445 --> 00:04:07,280 - Ahh! [laughs] 114 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,582 - This reunion we want to work on 115 00:04:09,582 --> 00:04:10,883 the intergenerational issues. 116 00:04:10,883 --> 00:04:13,686 Chey often mirrors her mom towards you. 117 00:04:13,686 --> 00:04:15,888 She's gonna need a man. 118 00:04:15,888 --> 00:04:17,657 - I always kind of feel like the girl that cried wolf 119 00:04:17,657 --> 00:04:18,925 with my feelings. 120 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:21,160 - I had a great exercise with my mom. 121 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,930 That's something that I think we really needed. 122 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:25,164 Don't cry. 123 00:04:25,164 --> 00:04:26,766 - Who's the mom in the relationship? 124 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:27,867 - I feel like I am. 125 00:04:27,867 --> 00:04:29,302 - Because you're so [bleep] strong. 126 00:04:29,302 --> 00:04:30,770 You always have been. 127 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:31,938 - Good morning, Briana. 128 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:33,306 Good morning, Ashley. 129 00:04:33,306 --> 00:04:34,474 - Tea tried to say good morning to me, 130 00:04:34,474 --> 00:04:35,908 but I didn't say anything back. 131 00:04:35,908 --> 00:04:37,310 I don't want to talk to them. 132 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:38,711 I know the type of person that they are. 133 00:04:38,711 --> 00:04:40,246 Fake as [bleep]. 134 00:04:40,246 --> 00:04:42,181 - Roxanne gon' keep trying me and I'ma push that bitch 135 00:04:42,181 --> 00:04:43,616 down there on the ground. 136 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:45,351 - Your daughter's a bully. 137 00:04:45,351 --> 00:04:47,320 - I'm coming for your mother[bleep] ass. 138 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,188 - [bleep] you, and [bleep] your mom. 139 00:04:49,188 --> 00:04:53,092 - I'm not sure how we're gonna come back from this. 140 00:04:53,092 --> 00:04:56,362 - Oh, my God. You're kidding. - Wow. 141 00:04:56,362 --> 00:04:57,597 - Wow. 142 00:04:57,597 --> 00:04:59,298 - And obviously we do have to address 143 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:00,800 the fight that took place. 144 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,001 Any thoughts about that? 145 00:05:02,001 --> 00:05:04,370 - To me the most, like, 146 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:09,342 heartbreaking part was to see how defeated Bri looked. 147 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:11,544 [voice breaking] And for somebody--mm, sorry. 148 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:12,845 - No, don't be sorry. 149 00:05:12,845 --> 00:05:15,448 - Being somebody who struggles with, like, 150 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:18,051 controlling yourself or expressing your emotions, 151 00:05:18,051 --> 00:05:20,219 it broke my heart. - Yeah. 152 00:05:20,219 --> 00:05:22,989 - Everybody on the internet attack her. 153 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:26,259 It pissed me off so bad, because 154 00:05:26,259 --> 00:05:28,528 regardless, we're all moms. 155 00:05:28,528 --> 00:05:31,064 Her kids are gonna have to watch her get spit on. 156 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:33,266 Ashley took no accountability. 157 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:35,635 And I don't care what they threw after the fact. 158 00:05:35,635 --> 00:05:39,172 It's humiliating, and none of us deserves that. 159 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,841 A much as we don't really [bleep] with Ashley like that, 160 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:43,276 she doesn't even deserve that. 161 00:05:43,276 --> 00:05:45,878 And I'm so sorry that that happened to you, Bri, 162 00:05:45,878 --> 00:05:47,680 and, like, I felt so helpless. 163 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,848 Like, I really did. 164 00:05:48,848 --> 00:05:51,484 - Thank you. I appreciate that. 165 00:05:51,484 --> 00:05:54,954 - Everybody here knows, 'cause it was said many times, 166 00:05:54,954 --> 00:05:56,756 "Why do you think Ashley's never said 167 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:58,458 something about you compared to"-- 168 00:05:58,458 --> 00:06:00,693 yeah, I don't know, but I'll tell you this right now. 169 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:04,263 I'm disappointed, because I believe in this girl, 170 00:06:04,263 --> 00:06:06,666 and I believe that she can change. 171 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:08,968 I say this because of what I've been through 172 00:06:08,968 --> 00:06:11,137 and how many bridges I've burned. 173 00:06:11,137 --> 00:06:12,839 - Right. - So I have to say that. 174 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,041 But I am disappointed. 175 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:16,843 - I know there are a lot of feeling about it. 176 00:06:16,843 --> 00:06:19,078 And we are gonna hear from everybody. 177 00:06:19,078 --> 00:06:21,047 And we are gonna have Ashley and her mom 178 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:23,683 to make sure that they have the space to share 179 00:06:23,683 --> 00:06:25,017 their thoughts, right? 180 00:06:25,017 --> 00:06:26,719 So let's switch gears for a second. 181 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:29,322 Tiffany, for you, were you surprised that you revealed 182 00:06:29,322 --> 00:06:30,990 so much about your life? 183 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:32,325 - Yeah. 184 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:34,794 I was so excited about this trip, being invited, 185 00:06:34,794 --> 00:06:36,863 and I was like, "Whatever activity we're doing, 186 00:06:36,863 --> 00:06:38,798 let's do it; like, I want to do everything." 187 00:06:38,798 --> 00:06:41,934 - Yeah. Christy, if you could do one thing over again 188 00:06:41,934 --> 00:06:43,770 and do it differently what would it be? 189 00:06:43,770 --> 00:06:45,438 - Not get COVID. 190 00:06:45,438 --> 00:06:46,639 - Right. - Hell yeah. 191 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:48,341 Hell yeah. - Yeah. 192 00:06:48,341 --> 00:06:49,809 - Hell yeah. - I was quarantined 193 00:06:49,809 --> 00:06:50,943 for six days, so I missed out on everything, but... 194 00:06:50,943 --> 00:06:52,445 - Uh-huh. - Yeah. 195 00:06:52,445 --> 00:06:55,148 - But it's amazing how quickly that you do build bonds 196 00:06:55,148 --> 00:06:58,584 with everybody, like, we love each other like family, so... 197 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:00,052 - That's awesome. - Mm. 198 00:07:00,052 --> 00:07:01,621 - We need to take a quick break. 199 00:07:01,621 --> 00:07:04,390 But more with all of these incredible moms when we return. 200 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:07,960 [applause] 201 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,531 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 202 00:07:11,531 --> 00:07:14,600 - I've never heard her say that she was sorry. 203 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,835 - Later tonight... 204 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:17,670 - That didn't look like a bump to me. 205 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:20,039 - Bumped or not, you don't spit on somebody. 206 00:07:20,039 --> 00:07:22,041 - Yeah. - So... 207 00:07:22,041 --> 00:07:23,509 - Ugh. 208 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:26,979 - As far as your commitment to Bentley as his father, 209 00:07:26,979 --> 00:07:30,316 can you commit to be consistent? 210 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:31,984 - [sniffles] 211 00:07:31,984 --> 00:07:33,486 [dramatic music] 212 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:37,658 [applause] 213 00:07:37,658 --> 00:07:39,560 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 214 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,861 The Aftermath." 215 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:42,896 I'm now sitting here with Jade and Christy. 216 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:44,231 [applause] 217 00:07:44,231 --> 00:07:46,733 Jade, what was the biggest takeaway 218 00:07:46,733 --> 00:07:49,436 from this experience at "Family Reunion"? 219 00:07:49,436 --> 00:07:51,672 - I was kind of nervous bringing my mom, 220 00:07:51,672 --> 00:07:55,142 'cause I think she has a really big personality. 221 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:56,610 People either love or hate her, 222 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:59,446 'cause she's just so herself and just so opinionated 223 00:07:59,446 --> 00:08:01,114 and headstrong, and, like, 224 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:03,150 some people can be a little intimidated by that 225 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:06,019 kind of, like, assertive kind of energy. 226 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,388 But everyone loved her 227 00:08:08,388 --> 00:08:10,424 and had so much fun with her, so I was like, 228 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:11,925 "Oh, great," like, 'cause I was like, 229 00:08:11,925 --> 00:08:13,460 "This is gonna go one of two ways." 230 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:17,397 And it went the best way, so I was--I was really happy. 231 00:08:17,397 --> 00:08:19,600 - Now, Jade, you shared a lot about your childhood. 232 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,469 And it got really heavy when you shared, you know, 233 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:25,105 what you went through and about your dad. 234 00:08:25,105 --> 00:08:27,374 - My dad, you know, committing suicide 235 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:29,076 when I was a child. 236 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:31,044 Closure with my mom would be-- 237 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:32,679 having a good relationship, a happy one, 238 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,848 that to me would be closure... 239 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:36,316 - From the past. - From the doors before, yes. 240 00:08:36,316 --> 00:08:37,417 - All, right. Okay. 241 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:39,820 - With my biological father, 242 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:42,489 no one knows him, because he passed away so early, 243 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:45,058 so I think me and my aunt hold this bond of, like, 244 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:46,994 we can mourn him. 245 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:49,863 - Why did you feel it was a safe space 246 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:51,498 to bring it up at "Family Reunion"? 247 00:08:51,498 --> 00:08:55,802 - I don't like having things, like, not talked about. 248 00:08:55,802 --> 00:08:57,904 I feel like we're all so closed 249 00:08:57,904 --> 00:08:59,873 that I thought it was appropriate. 250 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:02,709 And also hearing Kiaya really voice about 251 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:05,612 how she was going through things, you know, 252 00:09:05,612 --> 00:09:08,115 certain, like, feelings of guilt, 253 00:09:08,115 --> 00:09:10,250 and, you know, sadness with her father, 254 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:13,887 me and her can, like, relate in some aspect with that. 255 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:17,457 It's so important to voice to the world, like, 256 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:19,192 about suicide, about depression, 257 00:09:19,192 --> 00:09:21,728 about mental health is such a big thing. 258 00:09:21,728 --> 00:09:24,231 And stuff like this is real. 259 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:28,535 - Do you feel more comfortable talking about it now? 260 00:09:28,535 --> 00:09:30,904 - Yeah, 'cause I talk a lot with my aunt that, you know, 261 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,973 knows so much about it, I mean, grew up in it, 262 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:34,007 and I can ask all these questions, 263 00:09:34,007 --> 00:09:35,175 and I feel like with my mom 264 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:37,411 and, you know, my dad growing up 265 00:09:37,411 --> 00:09:39,846 I felt like it was rude of me to ask stuff, 266 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:41,415 because it was almost like 267 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,850 I was gonna hurt my dad's feelings 268 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,886 by bringing up my biological dad. 269 00:09:45,886 --> 00:09:47,821 - I feel uncomfortable 270 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:49,256 saying anything about him, period, 271 00:09:49,256 --> 00:09:52,259 because I didn't want to, like, upset you kind of. 272 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:55,429 Well, we were together when he committed suicide, so, like, 273 00:09:55,429 --> 00:09:58,899 it--it, like, about-- oh, I mean, 274 00:09:58,899 --> 00:10:00,367 it really took it out of me, you know? 275 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:02,969 Like, I was 20 or 21. 276 00:10:02,969 --> 00:10:04,338 - I think it was, like, traumatic 277 00:10:04,338 --> 00:10:07,074 for everybody involved, so... 278 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:08,475 [indistinct]. 279 00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:10,844 - I mean, me and him were very compatible. 280 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:13,947 - Yeah. - And--no. 281 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:16,116 I don't want to say anything. 282 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:19,853 - Well, I think if anything, when you guys go back home, 283 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:23,223 maybe this is a gateway to begin those conversations. 284 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,725 - Yeah. - Hopefully, right? 285 00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:25,926 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 286 00:10:25,926 --> 00:10:27,394 - One of the most emotional moments 287 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:29,863 of this "Family Reunion" happened when Christy took part 288 00:10:29,863 --> 00:10:32,432 in Coach B's Into the Mirror session. 289 00:10:32,432 --> 00:10:34,234 Let's take a look back at what happened. 290 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:37,704 [gentle piano music] 291 00:10:37,704 --> 00:10:41,975 - How do you believe your drug addiction affected Jade? 292 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:45,379 - She seeing me giving up. 293 00:10:45,379 --> 00:10:46,546 - Yeah. 294 00:10:46,546 --> 00:10:47,647 Did you give up on being a mom? 295 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,483 - I would say no, but... 296 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:51,184 - What do you think Jade would say? 297 00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:54,221 - I think that she might say yeah. 298 00:10:54,221 --> 00:10:56,690 - At what point do you plan on forgiving yourself 299 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:59,359 for all this stuff, or do you ever want to? 300 00:10:59,359 --> 00:11:00,427 - I want to. 301 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:02,062 - Look in here. 302 00:11:02,062 --> 00:11:03,497 Jade... 303 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:04,865 - Jade... 304 00:11:04,865 --> 00:11:07,701 - I hope you can forgive me... 305 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:12,205 - While I work on forgiving myself. 306 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:12,205 - While I work on forgiving myself. 307 00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:16,843 - My future plans for you are... 308 00:11:16,843 --> 00:11:22,082 to show you a good mom and good grandma 309 00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:25,385 and build a better, stronger relationship. 310 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:28,054 Jade, I'm sorry. 311 00:11:28,054 --> 00:11:33,660 ♪ ♪ 312 00:11:33,660 --> 00:11:36,129 - Jade, this is a huge healing moment. 313 00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:39,433 How do you feel watching that right now? 314 00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:42,068 - I feel better, 'cause I've never heard her 315 00:11:42,068 --> 00:11:44,104 say that she was sorry. 316 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:45,939 There's been things that we've been through 317 00:11:45,939 --> 00:11:51,111 that have, like, molded me and has changed me 318 00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:53,914 that have terrified me. 319 00:11:58,084 --> 00:12:01,087 And it's, like, I think she just packs it away 320 00:12:01,087 --> 00:12:03,857 and tries to, like, act like it never happened, 321 00:12:03,857 --> 00:12:08,462 so I'm, like, how do I heal... 322 00:12:08,462 --> 00:12:13,467 when you don't talk about anything? 323 00:12:13,467 --> 00:12:15,001 - There's been a lot of reactions. 324 00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:16,770 It's very emotional after watching that. 325 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:19,806 Maci, what are your thoughts right now? 326 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:22,909 - Um... 327 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,179 - I love you. 328 00:12:26,179 --> 00:12:28,014 - I just want to, like, hug Jade so tight that, 329 00:12:28,014 --> 00:12:29,416 like, she explodes. 330 00:12:29,416 --> 00:12:31,251 - [laughs] - I love her so much. 331 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:35,088 And, Christy, you deserve to be happy, 332 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:38,525 and I think sometimes you don't think you do. 333 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:40,994 - Yeah, I think I watched her so long be unhappy 334 00:12:40,994 --> 00:12:43,096 that it's pissing me off now that, like, 335 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:46,466 she's not that-- in that horrible state of, 336 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:48,034 like, addiction, 337 00:12:48,034 --> 00:12:49,970 and I still see you sad, and I'm, like, 338 00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:51,738 we missed out on so many happy times. 339 00:12:51,738 --> 00:12:53,306 - But--but it's not the end of everything. 340 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:54,708 - I know that I want to make them, 341 00:12:54,708 --> 00:12:55,942 so I'm pushing her. - That's right. 342 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:58,111 - I'm, like, let's make happy memories. 343 00:12:58,111 --> 00:12:59,880 We're gonna make good memories, God damn it. 344 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,548 - You guys are gonna make great memories. 345 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:02,916 [applause] A round of applause 346 00:13:02,916 --> 00:13:04,718 for great memories, please. 347 00:13:04,718 --> 00:13:08,455 And just know you are loved and supported 100%, okay? 348 00:13:08,455 --> 00:13:10,156 - I know. Yeah. 349 00:13:10,156 --> 00:13:13,593 - When we come back, we'll turn our attention to Cate. 350 00:13:13,593 --> 00:13:19,299 [applause] 351 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:20,300 Up next... 352 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:22,636 Hey, Cate, how did you feel? 353 00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:24,638 - My heart's literally racing with anxiety. 354 00:13:24,638 --> 00:13:26,206 - Okay, here we go. 355 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:27,741 ♪ ♪ 356 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:31,311 [applause] 357 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:32,980 - We're back with "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 358 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:33,981 The Aftermath." 359 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,282 I'm now here with Cate. 360 00:13:35,282 --> 00:13:37,251 - Hi. - Hi. 361 00:13:37,251 --> 00:13:38,519 - How are you? - So--I'm good. 362 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:40,587 You mom, April, is part of the series, 363 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,156 but she's not here today. 364 00:13:42,156 --> 00:13:44,324 - They had some family medical problems happen 365 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:45,959 with her father-in-law, so I understand. 366 00:13:45,959 --> 00:13:47,928 That's more important than this. 367 00:13:47,928 --> 00:13:49,163 - Mm-hmm. Yeah. 368 00:13:49,163 --> 00:13:50,731 - Now let's talk about bungee jumping. 369 00:13:50,731 --> 00:13:52,065 You weren't a fan of it. 370 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,934 - Hell no. [laughter] 371 00:13:53,934 --> 00:13:55,502 - Why were you scared? Talk to us a bit. 372 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:56,770 - I don't know. 373 00:13:56,770 --> 00:13:58,872 Literally, like, heights are my big-- 374 00:13:58,872 --> 00:14:00,407 one of my biggest fears. 375 00:14:00,407 --> 00:14:02,843 - Okay, so how did you talk yourself out of it? 376 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:06,814 - Um, it had a lot to do with, like, Amber and Maci. 377 00:14:06,814 --> 00:14:09,049 Um, I would say, like, 378 00:14:09,049 --> 00:14:11,018 Maci was very much like, "I promise you"-- 379 00:14:11,018 --> 00:14:12,953 she's like, "I would tell you if the [bleep] was dumb 380 00:14:12,953 --> 00:14:14,221 and scary as [bleep], don't do it." 381 00:14:14,221 --> 00:14:15,956 She was like, "If you don't do it, 382 00:14:15,956 --> 00:14:17,591 you're gonna regret not doing it." 383 00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:18,859 And Amber was, like, the same way. 384 00:14:18,859 --> 00:14:20,294 She's like, "And it was so freeing," 385 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:21,695 and, like, all this stuff. 386 00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:23,864 And then I was thinking of how many times in my life 387 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:26,700 have I been scared to do something and not do it 388 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:28,168 and then regretted it? 389 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:31,071 Or, like, how many times maybe I've held myself back 390 00:14:31,071 --> 00:14:33,240 by not stepping out of my comfort zone? 391 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,708 Which has been a lot. 392 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,276 - How proud were you 393 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,811 when you saw Cate do it? - I was so proud of her. 394 00:14:37,811 --> 00:14:39,112 - Oh, my gosh. - Oh, my gosh. 395 00:14:39,112 --> 00:14:41,748 We--I was, like, screaming... 396 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:43,484 - Yes. - Over the thing, like--- 397 00:14:43,484 --> 00:14:45,652 - I feel like we almost fell over. 398 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,187 - Yeah. - 'Cause we were like, 399 00:14:47,187 --> 00:14:48,856 "Oh, my gosh. You did it." - Oh, man. 400 00:14:48,856 --> 00:14:52,125 - Oh, I knew she-- like, as soon as she did it 401 00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:54,194 she was gonna be like, "[bleep] yeah." 402 00:14:54,194 --> 00:14:55,696 - Yeah, it was good. 403 00:14:55,696 --> 00:14:58,398 - Okay, well, there was concern that April's drinking 404 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:02,202 negatively affected Cate during her time in Oregon, 405 00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:04,605 especially when it came to the Unstuck activity. 406 00:15:04,605 --> 00:15:07,007 Let's take a look back at that moment. 407 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,909 [gentle music] 408 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,944 - What is it that we're working on with Mom 409 00:15:10,944 --> 00:15:12,613 that you want to address? 410 00:15:12,613 --> 00:15:15,916 - I feel like sometimes when I express my true feelings 411 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:19,052 and how I feel she'll throw my husband in the mix 412 00:15:19,052 --> 00:15:21,555 and be like, "Oh, that's what Tyler would tell you to do." 413 00:15:21,555 --> 00:15:24,525 - So then she gaslights you to make you think that 414 00:15:24,525 --> 00:15:26,527 your opinions are coming from somebody else. 415 00:15:26,527 --> 00:15:28,562 - Yes. And so for me, 416 00:15:28,562 --> 00:15:30,597 it comes from a point of, like, just realize that 417 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:33,534 you raised a strong [bleep] woman. 418 00:15:33,534 --> 00:15:35,302 - I don't worry about you, 419 00:15:35,302 --> 00:15:36,904 because you're so [bleep] strong 420 00:15:36,904 --> 00:15:38,672 I don't have to worry about you. 421 00:15:38,672 --> 00:15:41,675 And you wanted [bleep] rules... - Stay--Cate, there. 422 00:15:41,675 --> 00:15:44,077 Cate, stay there. Stay there. 423 00:15:44,077 --> 00:15:45,846 There--and you just gave up on her. 424 00:15:45,846 --> 00:15:48,315 Cate, how did it feel when she dropped the rope? 425 00:15:48,315 --> 00:15:50,450 - That she was, like, mad and upset at me. 426 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,386 - 'Cause that's my reaction. 427 00:15:52,386 --> 00:15:56,823 - Gently pull her in at a pace that will work for her. 428 00:15:56,823 --> 00:15:57,925 Can you do that? 429 00:15:57,925 --> 00:15:59,393 - Yep. 430 00:15:59,393 --> 00:16:01,528 Come on, baby. Come on. 431 00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:04,665 I got you. 432 00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:04,665 I got you. 433 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:07,534 I freaking got you. - I know, Mom. 434 00:16:08,402 --> 00:16:10,971 - Okay, Cate, talk to me a little bit about that moment. 435 00:16:10,971 --> 00:16:13,607 How did you feel? 436 00:16:13,607 --> 00:16:17,144 - Um, I felt powerful in that moment, 437 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:19,179 like, saying things to her 438 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:21,715 that I've never told her before. 439 00:16:21,715 --> 00:16:23,817 I mean, watching it back, my heart's literally racing 440 00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:25,419 with anxiety. 441 00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:28,121 I need to work better at, like, just expressing my feelings 442 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:30,324 and emotions to her and not protecting 443 00:16:30,324 --> 00:16:31,692 how it affects her. 444 00:16:31,692 --> 00:16:33,794 The first time I notice it was at "Family Reunion," 445 00:16:33,794 --> 00:16:36,763 but anytime I would say something to her 446 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:38,865 about how I felt, like, negatively, like, 447 00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:40,667 "Hey, when you did this it really hurt my feelings 448 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:42,970 or I was really sad or I felt abandoned," 449 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:44,237 I would always start with, 450 00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:46,039 "I know you did the best you could," 451 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:49,076 so I'm always, like, subconsciously trying to, like, 452 00:16:49,076 --> 00:16:50,077 protect her feelings 453 00:16:50,077 --> 00:16:52,212 like I'm the parent almost. 454 00:16:52,212 --> 00:16:54,615 - Do you--was she-- was your mom drinking 455 00:16:54,615 --> 00:16:55,816 at that point, do you know? 456 00:16:55,816 --> 00:16:57,451 - Oh, yeah. We both were. 457 00:16:57,451 --> 00:17:00,354 My mom has always said, like, when she drinks she gets very-- 458 00:17:00,354 --> 00:17:01,888 it brings out confidence in her. 459 00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:03,523 My mom's not a very confident person. 460 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:06,460 Also when my mom drinks, like, if you don't do the right thing 461 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,362 or if you say something 462 00:17:08,362 --> 00:17:10,263 she can become very nasty. 463 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:11,531 So... - Yeah. 464 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:14,067 - Mm-hmm. - Now, for the other moms, 465 00:17:14,067 --> 00:17:16,403 how was it for you to see Cate and her mom 466 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:19,172 in their interaction during the Unstuck activity? 467 00:17:19,172 --> 00:17:22,342 - I feel like I kind of felt everything Cate was. 468 00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:25,846 Like, when I realized that Cate was gonna go there, 469 00:17:25,846 --> 00:17:29,282 I was like--and I-- truth be told, 470 00:17:29,282 --> 00:17:32,586 I was saying like, "I really hope Cate goes there. 471 00:17:32,586 --> 00:17:34,221 Like, I hope she goes all the way in." 472 00:17:34,221 --> 00:17:37,190 She will not say her feelings 473 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:39,192 to spare someone else's feelings. 474 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,828 - So were you happy to see Cate stand up for herself 475 00:17:41,828 --> 00:17:42,829 and her feelings? 476 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:45,232 - Very happy. - Got it. 477 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:47,167 Cate was so upset after Unstuck 478 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:48,502 that she called her husband Tyler 479 00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:50,404 to come to Oregon and be there for her. 480 00:17:50,404 --> 00:17:51,672 And to hear about what he went through 481 00:17:51,672 --> 00:17:54,141 after he arrived, please welcome Tyler. 482 00:17:54,141 --> 00:17:55,442 [applause] 483 00:17:55,442 --> 00:17:58,078 - Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, all these ladies. 484 00:17:58,078 --> 00:17:59,846 Hey, how's it going, Nessa? - Nice to see you. 485 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:02,215 - How's it going? Hey, yeah, yeah, here we are. 486 00:18:02,215 --> 00:18:03,850 - So, Ty, when you got the call from Cate, 487 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:07,154 did you know immediately what she was going through? 488 00:18:07,154 --> 00:18:08,722 - Oh, yeah. I could hear it in her voice. 489 00:18:08,722 --> 00:18:10,157 And it's funny, because we had this thing where it's, like, 490 00:18:10,157 --> 00:18:12,626 the moment she was like, "Hello," I was like, "Hello." 491 00:18:12,626 --> 00:18:14,261 And I could just-- she broke down, 492 00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:17,097 and I was like, "Okay, um, here we go. 493 00:18:17,097 --> 00:18:18,799 "Like, let's--let's-- we gotta get in go mode. 494 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,100 "What's happening over there? 495 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,601 "Like, how are they taking caring of you? 496 00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:22,803 Like, what's happening?" - Yeah. 497 00:18:22,803 --> 00:18:24,237 He was actually the one too, though, 498 00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:25,505 who brought it to my attention, 'cause I was like, 499 00:18:25,505 --> 00:18:26,673 "I don't know why I'm waking up 500 00:18:26,673 --> 00:18:28,709 with all this panic and anxiety." 501 00:18:28,709 --> 00:18:30,677 And he was the one who brought it to my attention. 502 00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:32,012 He's like, "Give yourself a little grace. 503 00:18:32,012 --> 00:18:34,181 "You did just open up some really deep stuff 504 00:18:34,181 --> 00:18:35,882 with your mom yesterday." 505 00:18:35,882 --> 00:18:38,618 - So, Cate, how did Ty's presence 506 00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:41,722 improve the situation between you and your mom? 507 00:18:41,722 --> 00:18:44,124 - Um, it didn't improve the situation 508 00:18:44,124 --> 00:18:45,225 between me and my mom. 509 00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:46,993 I think it just helped me process 510 00:18:46,993 --> 00:18:49,062 where this anxiety was coming from. 511 00:18:49,062 --> 00:18:51,031 He has been on this walk with me 512 00:18:51,031 --> 00:18:53,333 through my mental health journey from the beginning. 513 00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:55,102 You know, like, Ty and I might be married, 514 00:18:55,102 --> 00:18:57,404 but we're also, like, best [bleep] friends. 515 00:18:57,404 --> 00:19:02,142 So, like, he's my, like, my--my support person, 516 00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:04,444 and, like, I just feel ten times better after, like, 517 00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:06,046 processing things with him of, like, 518 00:19:06,046 --> 00:19:07,214 why am I feeling like this? 519 00:19:07,214 --> 00:19:08,849 What--what could be bringing this up? 520 00:19:08,849 --> 00:19:10,851 Like, you know, or sometimes you just want 521 00:19:10,851 --> 00:19:13,553 that special person when you're super anxious or depressed, 522 00:19:13,553 --> 00:19:16,123 like, I just want to be held so I can cry and I feel safe, 523 00:19:16,123 --> 00:19:17,290 you know, like, so it just-- 524 00:19:17,290 --> 00:19:19,059 it really just-- it helped me a lot 525 00:19:19,059 --> 00:19:20,594 to be able to process things that were going on. 526 00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:22,295 - Yeah, that's why I knew. I was, like, all right, 527 00:19:22,295 --> 00:19:24,598 on a plane, we gotta go. Wife's freaking out. 528 00:19:24,598 --> 00:19:26,066 Like, what are they doing for her over there? 529 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:28,135 Like, and plus, I'm on the other side of the country. 530 00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,936 I don't know what's going on with the, you know... 531 00:19:29,936 --> 00:19:31,404 - Right. - Behind the scenes and stuff. 532 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:32,606 So yeah, I was nervous. 533 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,474 - Another thing that upset you, Ty, 534 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,511 during this family reunion was the dirty kitchen. 535 00:19:37,511 --> 00:19:38,545 - [laughs] 536 00:19:38,545 --> 00:19:39,813 Yo! - Oh, my God. 537 00:19:39,813 --> 00:19:41,481 - Listen-- - Are you a neat freak? 538 00:19:41,481 --> 00:19:43,717 - No, I ain't, really. I'm not. 539 00:19:43,717 --> 00:19:45,318 I mean, you know-- - You were upset. 540 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:47,587 - It was crazy. I sweeped the whole house, 541 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,823 and then I go in the kitchen. I'm, like, what the [bleep]? 542 00:19:49,823 --> 00:19:51,224 - And then he's like, "Are you guys all animals?" 543 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:52,926 - I said, "You guys party hard as hell." 544 00:19:52,926 --> 00:19:55,295 I said, "Damn, this is worse than a bachelor pad. 545 00:19:55,295 --> 00:19:57,597 Holy [bleep]." Yeah, I had to start cleaning. 546 00:19:57,597 --> 00:20:00,066 - So do all the moms agree that the kitchen was dirty? 547 00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:02,102 - I can say-- I'm with you, man. 548 00:20:02,102 --> 00:20:04,171 - Yeah, you saw. - I bought so many white socks, 549 00:20:04,171 --> 00:20:06,039 and they were black by the time I left. 550 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,040 And it was ridiculous. - Yo. 551 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,509 - But I can say, though, 552 00:20:09,509 --> 00:20:11,344 we did attempt to clean the kitchen. 553 00:20:11,344 --> 00:20:12,913 - We did. - Were you guys drunk? 554 00:20:12,913 --> 00:20:15,615 - We was told that someone was gonna come in and clean it. 555 00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:17,784 So we just let it sit there, 'cause we had stuff to do. 556 00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:18,885 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 557 00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:20,887 - Oh. - But it was dirty, Ty. 558 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,189 - Maybe it was a setup. 559 00:20:22,189 --> 00:20:24,624 Maybe they just-- - No, we still got it done. 560 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:25,792 - Oh, okay. - It was just annoying, 561 00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:27,661 I think, to everyone all the time. 562 00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:30,063 - That situation did happen the same day as the mud day, 563 00:20:30,063 --> 00:20:32,599 so it was the next day having the fight in the mud. 564 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:34,167 - Yo. - You guys couldn't get to it. 565 00:20:34,167 --> 00:20:35,368 - Hell, no, we couldn't. - Yeah, yeah, [bleep]. 566 00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,737 [all speaking at once] 567 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,940 - There was a lot going on. Fair enough. 568 00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:41,107 - Can't drink my coffee in filth 569 00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:42,509 so I had to start cleaning. 570 00:20:42,509 --> 00:20:44,244 - My mom was trying to wash the dishes, though. 571 00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:46,446 - Thank you so much, Cate. Thank you so much, Ty. 572 00:20:46,446 --> 00:20:47,814 It's always great to see you two. 573 00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:49,816 I appreciate you both being here. 574 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,219 We'll be back right after this. 575 00:20:52,219 --> 00:20:56,089 [applause] 576 00:20:56,556 --> 00:20:59,526 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 577 00:20:59,526 --> 00:21:02,863 Was that surprising to any of the other moms. 578 00:21:02,863 --> 00:21:06,233 - I mean, yeah, the spitting part definitely. 579 00:21:06,233 --> 00:21:09,236 - Ugh. Ugh. 580 00:21:09,236 --> 00:21:11,037 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 581 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:12,439 - Wait, hold on. Bri, wait. 582 00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:13,940 - What is happening though? 583 00:21:16,679 --> 00:21:18,815 [applause] 584 00:21:18,815 --> 00:21:20,650 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 585 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:22,051 The Aftermath." 586 00:21:22,051 --> 00:21:23,719 This season of "Family Reunion" featured one of 587 00:21:23,719 --> 00:21:26,389 the biggest fights in the history of "Teen Mom." 588 00:21:26,389 --> 00:21:28,991 It was a huge blowup between Ashley and her mom Tea 589 00:21:28,991 --> 00:21:31,094 and Briana and her mom Roxanne. 590 00:21:31,094 --> 00:21:33,429 And now we'd like to hear from the rest of the cast. 591 00:21:33,429 --> 00:21:34,864 But before we get into it, 592 00:21:34,864 --> 00:21:37,366 let's take a look back at what went down. 593 00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:40,369 [gentle music] 594 00:21:40,369 --> 00:21:42,038 ♪ ♪ 595 00:21:42,038 --> 00:21:43,139 - What's the problem, Roxanne? - I don't want to watch this. 596 00:21:43,139 --> 00:21:45,608 - The problem is that your daughter 597 00:21:45,608 --> 00:21:47,577 inserted herself in a situation 598 00:21:47,577 --> 00:21:49,512 that she had no business inserting herself. 599 00:21:49,512 --> 00:21:51,948 No, she had not business to do what she did. 600 00:21:51,948 --> 00:21:53,716 She was so [bleep] disrespectful. 601 00:21:53,716 --> 00:21:55,017 Shame on her. 602 00:21:55,017 --> 00:21:56,552 My daughter would never talk to any mother 603 00:21:56,552 --> 00:21:58,054 in this [bleep] table 604 00:21:58,054 --> 00:22:00,623 the way your daughter speaks to me. 605 00:22:00,623 --> 00:22:01,991 - Well, Roxanne-- - I don't want to hear it. 606 00:22:01,991 --> 00:22:03,359 - Roxanne-- - You have nothing to say 607 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,260 to me-- - I don't give 608 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:05,695 a [bleep], bitch. 609 00:22:05,695 --> 00:22:07,663 - No, you hold on. - I don't give a [bleep]. 610 00:22:07,663 --> 00:22:09,165 I don't give a [bleep]. 611 00:22:09,165 --> 00:22:10,933 - [indistinct shouting] - I don't give a [bleep]. 612 00:22:10,933 --> 00:22:13,336 - Mom. - I don't give a [bleep]. 613 00:22:13,336 --> 00:22:15,404 I don't-- - [bleep] you, ho. 614 00:22:15,404 --> 00:22:17,273 - No, [bleep] you. - Bitch! 615 00:22:17,273 --> 00:22:19,108 - I can't. I can't. 616 00:22:19,108 --> 00:22:20,476 - Oh, you can say "excuse me." 617 00:22:20,476 --> 00:22:22,078 - Stop. Stop being so dramatic. 618 00:22:22,078 --> 00:22:24,480 - You bump me, I'ma grab your mother[bleep] ass then. 619 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,582 - Shut up. Ugh. - I didn't bump you. 620 00:22:26,582 --> 00:22:28,484 - You did. - No. 621 00:22:28,484 --> 00:22:30,453 - You did, [bleep]. - Mother, you don't know. 622 00:22:30,453 --> 00:22:31,988 - Bri was actually trying to be really cordial. 623 00:22:31,988 --> 00:22:33,289 - [bleep], you stop with the [bleep]. 624 00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:34,757 - No, you stop with the [bleep]. 625 00:22:34,757 --> 00:22:36,859 - No, 'cause if y'all want to go toes, we really can. 626 00:22:36,859 --> 00:22:38,261 - I'm [bleep] pissed. - We really can. 627 00:22:38,261 --> 00:22:39,996 - Let's go. Let's go. - [bleep] this bitch. 628 00:22:39,996 --> 00:22:42,198 - Let's go. 'Cause they don't want that. Let's go. 629 00:22:42,198 --> 00:22:44,534 - We really can. - Come on. Out we go. 630 00:22:44,534 --> 00:22:45,701 - Why you up there? - Let's go. Let's go. 631 00:22:45,701 --> 00:22:47,570 - Get down, baby. Get down. - Go. 632 00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:49,572 - Bri, hell the [bleep] no. 633 00:22:49,572 --> 00:22:51,007 - Let's go. - Get down, [bleep]. 634 00:22:51,007 --> 00:22:52,575 - No, so I could kick you in your [bleep] throat. 635 00:22:52,575 --> 00:22:54,377 - Get down. 'Cause you can't fight? 636 00:22:54,377 --> 00:22:55,945 - No, [bleep] you, bitch. - 'Cause you can't fight? 637 00:22:55,945 --> 00:22:57,079 - [bleep] you. - Get down. 638 00:22:57,079 --> 00:22:58,981 - [bleep] my [bleep], Ash. - [spits] 639 00:22:58,981 --> 00:23:01,250 [dramatic music] - Ew. 640 00:23:01,250 --> 00:23:02,385 - Bitch. 641 00:23:02,385 --> 00:23:06,522 [all shouting] 642 00:23:06,522 --> 00:23:08,691 - Come on, bitch. - [bleep] you. 643 00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:10,426 - Oh, you want to throw? - [bleep]. 644 00:23:10,426 --> 00:23:11,761 - You want to throw, bitch? 645 00:23:11,761 --> 00:23:13,129 - [bleep] you. [bleep] you. 646 00:23:13,129 --> 00:23:14,797 - I'm not even-- I'm not doing this. 647 00:23:14,797 --> 00:23:16,499 Let's go. I'm not doing this. 648 00:23:16,499 --> 00:23:18,301 I'm not feeding this bitch anything. 649 00:23:18,301 --> 00:23:19,769 - Mom, stay here. Come on. - No, I'm done. 650 00:23:19,769 --> 00:23:21,103 I'm going home. - 'Cause we have-- 651 00:23:21,103 --> 00:23:23,372 - I'm not doing it. I'm [bleep] going home. 652 00:23:23,372 --> 00:23:25,641 That [bleep] pissed me off seeing it again. 653 00:23:25,641 --> 00:23:27,210 - Ugh. Ugh. 654 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:28,578 - So did that look like a bump to y'all? 655 00:23:28,578 --> 00:23:31,714 It just looked like she just grazed past her. 656 00:23:31,714 --> 00:23:33,349 That didn't look like a bump to me. 657 00:23:33,349 --> 00:23:35,084 - At the end of the day-- - Can we replay it? 658 00:23:35,084 --> 00:23:36,686 'Cause it didn't look like a bump to me. 659 00:23:36,686 --> 00:23:38,521 - I didn't--yeah, I wasn't sure. 660 00:23:38,521 --> 00:23:40,256 - It just looked like she just, like, you know, 661 00:23:40,256 --> 00:23:41,991 you too close to somebody. - Bumped or not, 662 00:23:41,991 --> 00:23:45,795 you don't spit on somebody, so that's-- 663 00:23:45,795 --> 00:23:47,263 - We're gonna go to-- - I want to go to the hotel. 664 00:23:47,263 --> 00:23:48,564 I'm gonna go home. 665 00:23:48,564 --> 00:23:49,966 I'm not doing this [bleep] with that bitch 666 00:23:49,966 --> 00:23:51,801 after watching that [bleep]. - Where did my shoes go? 667 00:23:51,801 --> 00:23:53,703 - I guess, Kiaya, for you, 668 00:23:53,703 --> 00:23:55,304 how do you feel after watching that? 669 00:23:55,304 --> 00:23:57,039 - That makes me not want to deal with 670 00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:58,407 that type of person at all. 671 00:23:58,407 --> 00:24:00,610 And I don't think that they're genuine people. 672 00:24:00,610 --> 00:24:03,312 I think that both of them lack maturity. 673 00:24:03,312 --> 00:24:06,882 I think we can all agree that Ashley is a smart girl. 674 00:24:06,882 --> 00:24:09,885 And I just feel like she [bleep] herself up a lot. 675 00:24:09,885 --> 00:24:13,456 Like, I feel like she digs herself in a lot of holes 676 00:24:13,456 --> 00:24:16,359 - Was that surprising to any of the other moms? 677 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,593 - I mean... - The spitting? 678 00:24:17,593 --> 00:24:18,794 - Yeah, the spitting part definitely. 679 00:24:18,794 --> 00:24:20,263 - That part. 680 00:24:20,263 --> 00:24:22,098 - It's kind of like the Farrah situation all over again. 681 00:24:22,098 --> 00:24:23,532 - Yep. 682 00:24:23,532 --> 00:24:25,735 - Because now she gets to come onstage by herself 683 00:24:25,735 --> 00:24:28,504 and not deal with the accountability 684 00:24:28,504 --> 00:24:30,306 or listen to what people have to say 685 00:24:30,306 --> 00:24:32,742 and then paint this own picture like she has been doing 686 00:24:32,742 --> 00:24:34,377 that she's the victim. 687 00:24:34,377 --> 00:24:36,345 And that's not fair. 688 00:24:36,345 --> 00:24:38,214 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 689 00:24:38,214 --> 00:24:39,615 - Wait, hold on, Bri. Wait, hold on. 690 00:24:39,615 --> 00:24:40,916 - What is happening? - Just at least tell me 691 00:24:40,916 --> 00:24:43,185 what happened so I can-- just at least tell me. 692 00:24:43,185 --> 00:24:44,287 - What's going on? 693 00:24:44,287 --> 00:24:46,289 - I think my mom deserves to speak. 694 00:24:46,289 --> 00:24:48,124 - From my understanding, you and your mom 695 00:24:48,124 --> 00:24:49,959 have your own act coming up. 696 00:24:49,959 --> 00:24:50,993 - We're not on the couch. It's just too much. 697 00:24:50,993 --> 00:24:52,128 - No, no, no, no, no. Bri, 698 00:24:52,128 --> 00:24:53,429 you and your mom have your own-- 699 00:24:53,429 --> 00:24:54,964 - It doesn't matter. None of that matters. 700 00:24:54,964 --> 00:24:56,632 - But, Bri, we all have your back; I hope you know that. 701 00:24:56,632 --> 00:24:58,434 - Yeah, I understand that, but right now 702 00:24:58,434 --> 00:24:59,969 my mom is frustrated. 703 00:24:59,969 --> 00:25:01,537 - Okay. - Oh, no. 704 00:25:01,537 --> 00:25:03,306 - But you guys have your own act. 705 00:25:03,306 --> 00:25:04,974 - It's just too much. 706 00:25:04,974 --> 00:25:06,709 I love you guys, and I'll see you guys at the hotel. 707 00:25:06,709 --> 00:25:08,010 - We love you too. - We love you too. 708 00:25:08,010 --> 00:25:10,513 - Love you. - Love you too, Bri. 709 00:25:10,513 --> 00:25:11,781 - What just happened? 710 00:25:11,781 --> 00:25:15,084 - I mean, honestly, we weren't in the fight. 711 00:25:15,084 --> 00:25:17,453 This isn't our conversation. - Yeah. 712 00:25:17,453 --> 00:25:20,056 - This is a conversation that if we're gonna be a part of 713 00:25:20,056 --> 00:25:21,724 and put our input into... - Everybody should. 714 00:25:21,724 --> 00:25:23,225 - Everybody should be present. 715 00:25:23,225 --> 00:25:24,960 Bri and Roxanne should be here. 716 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,595 - Why in the hell would Bri not be present? 717 00:25:26,595 --> 00:25:28,964 - So I'm not gonna sit here and speak on Bri 718 00:25:28,964 --> 00:25:31,000 and how she may or may not feel. 719 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,769 I'm not gonna speak on Ashley on how she may not feel. 720 00:25:33,769 --> 00:25:35,938 I wasn't in the fight. I didn't get spit on. 721 00:25:35,938 --> 00:25:37,340 I wasn't the person who spit. 722 00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:38,908 - I think they wanted to know how you guys felt, 723 00:25:38,908 --> 00:25:40,343 because you were there. 724 00:25:40,343 --> 00:25:43,346 But they have their own act, just so everyone's aware. 725 00:25:43,346 --> 00:25:44,814 All right, let's pause right here. 726 00:25:44,814 --> 00:25:46,682 And we'll be back right after this. 727 00:25:46,682 --> 00:25:50,519 [applause] 728 00:25:52,255 --> 00:25:53,823 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 729 00:25:53,823 --> 00:25:54,824 The Aftermath." 730 00:25:54,824 --> 00:25:56,226 Let's get back into it. 731 00:25:56,226 --> 00:25:57,627 I don't know if there's a different way to look 732 00:25:57,627 --> 00:25:58,895 at the situation. 733 00:25:58,895 --> 00:26:02,732 Maybe is there any understanding or grace 734 00:26:02,732 --> 00:26:05,769 that maybe Ashley might have had 735 00:26:05,769 --> 00:26:06,970 different feelings at the time. 736 00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:09,406 She was pregnant. both: No. 737 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,209 - We got sent home for that [bleep] bitch 738 00:26:12,209 --> 00:26:13,743 spitting on my daughter. 739 00:26:13,743 --> 00:26:15,412 That's [bleep] shady, and then we have to wait 740 00:26:15,412 --> 00:26:19,115 the whole day to anticipate the worst. 741 00:26:19,115 --> 00:26:20,984 You can't pull people's strings like that. 742 00:26:20,984 --> 00:26:22,319 That's wrong. - Wait, Roxanne. 743 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,787 - Lets'-- let's hear from Tiffany. 744 00:26:23,787 --> 00:26:25,722 - Sorry, but then you go home and go on social media 745 00:26:25,722 --> 00:26:27,624 and talk about that girl's kids. 746 00:26:27,624 --> 00:26:30,293 Your family talks about her kids. 747 00:26:30,293 --> 00:26:31,695 - Body shaming them too. 748 00:26:31,695 --> 00:26:33,530 - Babies, and body shaming. - Body shaming the kids? 749 00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:35,865 - Why would-- - No, the girls. 750 00:26:35,865 --> 00:26:37,167 - Jade and Bri and... 751 00:26:37,167 --> 00:26:39,336 - I think Ashley's sister called Bri's kids-- 752 00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:40,937 - Mismatch. - Mismatch. 753 00:26:40,937 --> 00:26:42,405 - Because she has two... - Mix-matched. 754 00:26:42,405 --> 00:26:44,307 - Baby daddies, so I just-- 755 00:26:44,307 --> 00:26:46,109 I guess I'm mismatched too, 'cause... 756 00:26:46,109 --> 00:26:47,143 - I'm mismatched too. Don't wanna lie. 757 00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:48,411 - I got two baby daddies. 758 00:26:48,411 --> 00:26:49,846 - I think everybody in here mismatched. 759 00:26:49,846 --> 00:26:53,049 Well, Margaret, you're usually the voice of reason. 760 00:26:53,049 --> 00:26:56,219 - I was just really sad that the situation happened 761 00:26:56,219 --> 00:26:59,322 from the standpoint of the girls. 762 00:26:59,322 --> 00:27:01,591 All of them endure so much. 763 00:27:01,591 --> 00:27:03,026 It was just sad. 764 00:27:03,026 --> 00:27:06,496 I think what bothered me more is that as a mom, and... 765 00:27:06,496 --> 00:27:09,733 - Yeah. - We know what they all endure. 766 00:27:09,733 --> 00:27:12,435 So another mother should not do that. 767 00:27:12,435 --> 00:27:14,638 We've got to do better. both: Yeah. 768 00:27:14,638 --> 00:27:15,805 - It's sad. 769 00:27:15,805 --> 00:27:17,507 She spit my daughter in the face. 770 00:27:17,507 --> 00:27:18,875 She's the one that got rowdy. 771 00:27:18,875 --> 00:27:21,011 She's the one that invited the fight. 772 00:27:21,011 --> 00:27:24,781 What the [bleep]? 773 00:27:24,781 --> 00:27:26,249 - So let me ask you-- 774 00:27:26,249 --> 00:27:27,984 let me ask the moms and the grandmas this. 775 00:27:27,984 --> 00:27:30,320 Do we see any possible healing in this? 776 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,488 [together] No. 777 00:27:31,488 --> 00:27:32,956 - Seriously. - 'Cause she doesn't-- 778 00:27:32,956 --> 00:27:34,624 because she doesn't take accountability. 779 00:27:34,624 --> 00:27:37,861 - If Ashley was to come back on the show 780 00:27:37,861 --> 00:27:40,730 right now in the reunion or next season, 781 00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:42,932 then what does that look like for you ladies and 782 00:27:42,932 --> 00:27:44,501 how do you coexist? 783 00:27:44,501 --> 00:27:46,569 How do we resolve? How does that look? 784 00:27:46,569 --> 00:27:49,272 - I think some people are so comfortable in dysfunction 785 00:27:49,272 --> 00:27:51,708 that dysfunction is just normal. 786 00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:52,976 - Okay. - Coach B, let me ask you. 787 00:27:52,976 --> 00:27:55,578 Do you think there's a road to healing? 788 00:27:55,578 --> 00:27:57,080 - I think that there's a road to healing. 789 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,615 Do I think it's gonna happen tonight on this reunion? 790 00:27:58,615 --> 00:27:59,616 No. 791 00:27:59,616 --> 00:28:01,518 And so again it's a process. 792 00:28:01,518 --> 00:28:02,852 I don't think it's something that we can have 793 00:28:02,852 --> 00:28:05,322 one conversation with 794 00:28:05,322 --> 00:28:07,590 and then, you know, Ashley is gonna just say, 795 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:09,659 "Hey, you know, I'm just gonna apologize, 796 00:28:09,659 --> 00:28:11,227 take accountability, and then I'm gonna shift up 797 00:28:11,227 --> 00:28:13,129 a lot of the things I've been knowing all my life. 798 00:28:13,129 --> 00:28:16,366 - I think we joined this show-- I know for myself-- 799 00:28:16,366 --> 00:28:18,735 to share my story and to... - Yep. 800 00:28:18,735 --> 00:28:21,438 - Be able to just have one person relate 801 00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:24,307 and reach out and say, "Thank you for sharing 802 00:28:24,307 --> 00:28:26,810 "the deepest and darkest moments and all your secrets, 803 00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:29,045 because you're helping me get through mine." 804 00:28:29,045 --> 00:28:32,082 I didn't sign up to get attacked online 805 00:28:32,082 --> 00:28:35,585 or through podcasts or through online bullying. 806 00:28:35,585 --> 00:28:38,421 I'm here to share my story, and that's it. 807 00:28:38,421 --> 00:28:39,522 We're in an environment that's around... 808 00:28:39,522 --> 00:28:41,091 - Interact-- very interactive. 809 00:28:41,091 --> 00:28:42,859 - Everyone, and the whole point, 810 00:28:42,859 --> 00:28:44,561 it's called "Family Reunion." 811 00:28:44,561 --> 00:28:46,896 We're supposed to do things together. 812 00:28:46,896 --> 00:28:49,366 - As a family. - I would not feel safe. 813 00:28:49,366 --> 00:28:50,800 I wouldn't feel comfortable. 814 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,303 Because I don't know if one day you're gonna flip 815 00:28:53,303 --> 00:28:54,637 and then you're spitting on me. 816 00:28:54,637 --> 00:28:56,406 I wouldn't even put myself in that situation. 817 00:28:56,406 --> 00:28:59,542 So if we did it again, I would have to decline. 818 00:28:59,542 --> 00:29:02,011 I don't think I would do another show with her. 819 00:29:02,011 --> 00:29:04,914 I mean, I know I wouldn't do another show with her. 820 00:29:04,914 --> 00:29:08,118 - As her mom, if they were coming, 821 00:29:08,118 --> 00:29:10,420 I'd be uncomfortable. 822 00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:14,424 Because physical violence to me is just no. 823 00:29:14,424 --> 00:29:16,493 - A no-go. - A no-go. 824 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:17,761 We can't have that. 825 00:29:17,761 --> 00:29:19,662 That's dangerous. It was really ugly. 826 00:29:19,662 --> 00:29:22,132 - And that's why, Margaret, that they didn't want 827 00:29:22,132 --> 00:29:23,133 everyone onstage. 828 00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:25,235 - Yeah. No, I understand. 829 00:29:25,235 --> 00:29:28,605 I'm praying for them, and I pray that they're fine. 830 00:29:28,605 --> 00:29:31,141 But I don't want any of these girls now-- 831 00:29:31,141 --> 00:29:32,308 now we're all family. 832 00:29:32,308 --> 00:29:33,777 - Right, yes. - So I don't want to see 833 00:29:33,777 --> 00:29:37,213 anyone hurt, and that was dangerous. 834 00:29:37,213 --> 00:29:39,149 - And we do have Roxanne and Briana here. 835 00:29:39,149 --> 00:29:41,217 And I want to make sure that they have 836 00:29:41,217 --> 00:29:44,721 their space to share their thoughts. 837 00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:47,056 And we'll hear from them after the break. 838 00:29:47,056 --> 00:29:49,859 [dramatic music] 839 00:29:49,859 --> 00:29:53,530 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 840 00:29:53,530 --> 00:29:55,064 - I don't to be a part of it. 841 00:29:55,064 --> 00:29:56,099 I don't want to be near her. 842 00:29:56,099 --> 00:29:57,867 If we do another one of these 843 00:29:57,867 --> 00:30:00,203 and she's invited I will not come. 844 00:30:00,203 --> 00:30:02,639 So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go. 845 00:30:02,639 --> 00:30:04,841 - What part of the relationship 846 00:30:04,841 --> 00:30:06,976 is your heart saying you miss with Bentley? 847 00:30:06,976 --> 00:30:08,445 - Hell, just raising him. 848 00:30:09,713 --> 00:30:13,050 [cheers and applause] 849 00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:15,052 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 850 00:30:15,052 --> 00:30:16,620 The Aftermath." 851 00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:19,289 I'm joined on the couch now by Briana and her mom Roxanne. 852 00:30:19,289 --> 00:30:20,724 [applause] 853 00:30:20,724 --> 00:30:25,095 Okay, so there was a reaction from the both of you 854 00:30:25,095 --> 00:30:28,398 during the last segment after the footage was aired. 855 00:30:28,398 --> 00:30:30,868 You both were out the door already. 856 00:30:30,868 --> 00:30:33,303 - Yeah. - What made you come back? 857 00:30:33,303 --> 00:30:35,939 - Larry. - Morgan. 858 00:30:35,939 --> 00:30:38,842 - So Larry and Morgan are producers of the show, 859 00:30:38,842 --> 00:30:40,744 so tell us what they said. 860 00:30:40,744 --> 00:30:42,479 - They have a way with their words. 861 00:30:42,479 --> 00:30:45,616 - Yeah, they were understanding and compassionate 862 00:30:45,616 --> 00:30:47,985 of the reaction that we had after watching the-- 863 00:30:47,985 --> 00:30:49,786 watching that for the first time. 864 00:30:49,786 --> 00:30:51,088 - Okay, well-- - Yeah. 865 00:30:51,088 --> 00:30:53,123 - That what I want to kind of talk about. 866 00:30:53,123 --> 00:30:55,759 - Right. - So it comes on. 867 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,094 You're watching in the back. 868 00:30:57,094 --> 00:30:58,695 What comes up for you? 869 00:30:58,695 --> 00:31:00,164 - Just anger. 870 00:31:00,164 --> 00:31:04,067 'Cause I wish--I saw myself, and I was just so calm. 871 00:31:04,067 --> 00:31:07,804 Seeing her so aggressive and me so calm, 872 00:31:07,804 --> 00:31:10,107 I wish I matched her energy. 873 00:31:10,107 --> 00:31:11,842 She is such a nasty person, 874 00:31:11,842 --> 00:31:14,411 and that's just the only thing that comes out of me 875 00:31:14,411 --> 00:31:15,846 when I see her. 876 00:31:15,846 --> 00:31:20,417 - So when you set up on top of the counter, right, 877 00:31:20,417 --> 00:31:21,685 you don't feel like you kind of matched 878 00:31:21,685 --> 00:31:23,453 her energy a little bit there? 879 00:31:23,453 --> 00:31:24,721 You feel like that was still being calm? 880 00:31:24,721 --> 00:31:25,656 - In the moment. - I feel like there was 881 00:31:25,656 --> 00:31:27,024 so much more to it. 882 00:31:27,024 --> 00:31:29,459 Like, the clip just didn't justify, 883 00:31:29,459 --> 00:31:31,828 like, what really occurred. 884 00:31:31,828 --> 00:31:33,997 Like, there was just so much. 885 00:31:33,997 --> 00:31:35,465 But watching it, it's, like, 886 00:31:35,465 --> 00:31:38,001 there was no reason for me to get sent home. 887 00:31:38,001 --> 00:31:40,537 - I feel like a lot of the trigger was, 888 00:31:40,537 --> 00:31:41,672 "Wait a minute. 889 00:31:41,672 --> 00:31:43,373 If I was gonna get sent home..." 890 00:31:43,373 --> 00:31:45,576 - I should have just [bleep] her up. 891 00:31:45,576 --> 00:31:48,212 - So when you hopped on top of the table, 892 00:31:48,212 --> 00:31:49,613 that was before or after? 893 00:31:49,613 --> 00:31:51,415 'Cause I'm trying to see-- - That was before 894 00:31:51,415 --> 00:31:52,883 she spit at me. - Okay, I got it. 895 00:31:52,883 --> 00:31:55,352 - I think her way to get to me because I was so high 896 00:31:55,352 --> 00:31:57,154 was to spit on me. 897 00:31:57,154 --> 00:31:59,223 - So much happened so fast. 898 00:31:59,223 --> 00:32:01,391 - Like, it took a second for it to register, like, 899 00:32:01,391 --> 00:32:02,693 did I just get spit on? 900 00:32:02,693 --> 00:32:05,629 Like, I don't even know where it went. 901 00:32:05,629 --> 00:32:07,664 - What caused all this friction? 902 00:32:07,664 --> 00:32:08,999 - Because Ashley doesn't know how to 903 00:32:08,999 --> 00:32:10,567 mind her [bleep] business. 904 00:32:10,567 --> 00:32:12,836 She's friends with Miss [bleep] Irrelevant, 905 00:32:12,836 --> 00:32:16,039 but whatever problems I have with the bitch that sued me, 906 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,642 Ashley always wants to chime in, comment, 907 00:32:18,642 --> 00:32:20,210 say all these things, and her mom wants to 908 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:22,346 talk [bleep] about me and my sex life. 909 00:32:22,346 --> 00:32:24,681 Like, it was a whole bunch of stuff. 910 00:32:24,681 --> 00:32:26,316 She's so notorious for going online 911 00:32:26,316 --> 00:32:28,051 and talking [bleep]. 912 00:32:28,051 --> 00:32:30,454 - You know, when the argument was between the girls 913 00:32:30,454 --> 00:32:33,190 on social media, fine, whatever. 914 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,859 But when I realized that the mom now 915 00:32:35,859 --> 00:32:37,261 has spoken about other girls, 916 00:32:37,261 --> 00:32:39,029 and now she's talking about my daughter, 917 00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:41,598 I knew that at some point I'm gonna address her. 918 00:32:41,598 --> 00:32:43,834 And the worst part was this to me: 919 00:32:43,834 --> 00:32:46,670 you go--you show up at "Family Reunion." 920 00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:49,306 You're, like, chipping away and just trying to smile 921 00:32:49,306 --> 00:32:51,308 and fit in wherever anybody just-- 922 00:32:51,308 --> 00:32:53,277 - Fake as [bleep]. Yeah. 923 00:32:53,277 --> 00:32:54,578 - Wherever anybody pets you a little, 924 00:32:54,578 --> 00:32:56,513 you just gonna wiggle your way in. 925 00:32:56,513 --> 00:32:58,115 Fake, not authentic. 926 00:32:58,115 --> 00:32:59,449 Excuse me. 927 00:32:59,449 --> 00:33:00,751 Why don't you just address it in the beginning? 928 00:33:00,751 --> 00:33:03,453 "Listen, ladies, I'm here with my daughter. 929 00:33:03,453 --> 00:33:05,889 I apologize for my behavior in the past." 930 00:33:05,889 --> 00:33:08,558 No, she pretended like nothing happened. 931 00:33:08,558 --> 00:33:10,727 And the more I'm looking at her like, 932 00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:15,032 "This mother[bleep] acting like she didn't do anything." 933 00:33:15,032 --> 00:33:18,268 - So the tension started after you addressed her-- 934 00:33:18,268 --> 00:33:20,137 - At the dinner table. - Yeah, yeah. 935 00:33:20,137 --> 00:33:21,838 - It erupted. - Yeah. 936 00:33:21,838 --> 00:33:25,742 - 'Cause before that we were doing the mud pit. 937 00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:26,877 - And it was great. 938 00:33:26,877 --> 00:33:28,211 - It was wonderful. - Yeah. 939 00:33:28,211 --> 00:33:29,413 - I had a great time. 940 00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:30,847 - Although I was apprehensive, 941 00:33:30,847 --> 00:33:33,016 I left feeling like, wow. 942 00:33:33,016 --> 00:33:35,385 You connected every mom and every daughter. 943 00:33:35,385 --> 00:33:37,421 I saw my daughter in all those girls. 944 00:33:37,421 --> 00:33:39,556 And I saw myself in all those moms. 945 00:33:39,556 --> 00:33:42,659 - Now, Coach B, you asked the other moms 946 00:33:42,659 --> 00:33:44,961 if there is a road to healing. 947 00:33:44,961 --> 00:33:47,764 How about-- - Never. 948 00:33:47,764 --> 00:33:49,266 - I don't want to be a part of it. 949 00:33:49,266 --> 00:33:50,567 I don't want to be near her. 950 00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:52,636 If we do another one of these 951 00:33:52,636 --> 00:33:54,871 and she's invited, I will not come. 952 00:33:54,871 --> 00:33:57,607 So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go. 953 00:33:57,607 --> 00:34:01,411 - How dangerous is it that after when we got back... 954 00:34:01,411 --> 00:34:03,780 - Oh, let's bring that up. - She went on social media 955 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:06,650 and said that we knew she was pregnant. 956 00:34:06,650 --> 00:34:07,984 - It's [bleep] up. 957 00:34:07,984 --> 00:34:10,020 Like, don't say that. - That was dangerous. 958 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:13,123 - Because if I knew she was pregnant, 959 00:34:13,123 --> 00:34:14,925 I would have completely ignored her. 960 00:34:14,925 --> 00:34:16,226 - Yeah. - Yeah. 961 00:34:16,226 --> 00:34:18,895 Bri, let me ask you this, 'cause I hear, you know, 962 00:34:18,895 --> 00:34:20,797 you and Roxanne, and most of the girls too, 963 00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:24,134 if not all, are saying, like, you know, no, no resolve. 964 00:34:24,134 --> 00:34:26,370 But I do want to kind of cut into 965 00:34:26,370 --> 00:34:28,605 you were there for the couple of days. 966 00:34:28,605 --> 00:34:29,806 How was it for you? 967 00:34:29,806 --> 00:34:32,442 - That makes me emotional. 968 00:34:32,442 --> 00:34:35,946 Because I had such a great time. 969 00:34:35,946 --> 00:34:38,382 The bungee jumping was amazing. 970 00:34:38,382 --> 00:34:41,618 The mud pit was great, spending time with the girls. 971 00:34:41,618 --> 00:34:44,488 I wanted my mom to experience this. 972 00:34:44,488 --> 00:34:46,957 And it's like this stupid [bleep] bitch 973 00:34:46,957 --> 00:34:50,394 took that away from me and my mom 974 00:34:50,394 --> 00:34:52,429 and for the rest of the girls. 975 00:34:52,429 --> 00:34:58,034 Like, I have true relationships with every single girl. 976 00:34:58,034 --> 00:35:01,671 And it's, like, it's just frustrating. 977 00:35:01,671 --> 00:35:05,175 - What do you think of, like, possibly, you know, 978 00:35:05,175 --> 00:35:08,678 just doing some type of work 979 00:35:08,678 --> 00:35:11,081 that provides tools on how to manage your anger 980 00:35:11,081 --> 00:35:13,784 so that things are prevented 981 00:35:13,784 --> 00:35:15,552 to even getting to a violent space? 982 00:35:15,552 --> 00:35:17,521 I don't mind disagreements that are healthy 983 00:35:17,521 --> 00:35:19,122 but not where it's getting physical 984 00:35:19,122 --> 00:35:20,424 and people don't feel safe. 985 00:35:20,424 --> 00:35:21,691 Because that's not gonna be the first time 986 00:35:21,691 --> 00:35:23,160 that you're in a confrontation, 987 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,328 and I know it cost you your stay at the reunion. 988 00:35:25,328 --> 00:35:28,365 - Yeah. - But losing your cool 989 00:35:28,365 --> 00:35:29,666 can cost you your life. 990 00:35:29,666 --> 00:35:31,768 And you've got kids and too much to lose. 991 00:35:31,768 --> 00:35:34,070 - It's just hard to be a bigger person sometimes. 992 00:35:34,070 --> 00:35:37,441 I want to be a little tiny, tiny person and... 993 00:35:37,441 --> 00:35:39,176 - Yeah. - Do what I gotta do sometimes. 994 00:35:39,176 --> 00:35:41,111 But, you know, I've come to realize that it's not-- 995 00:35:41,111 --> 00:35:42,412 it's not worth it sometimes. 996 00:35:42,412 --> 00:35:44,781 - Small people also everything else is small. 997 00:35:44,781 --> 00:35:47,017 That make sense? - Yeah. 998 00:35:47,017 --> 00:35:48,385 - Thank you so much, Coach B, 999 00:35:48,385 --> 00:35:50,120 for your words of wisdom as always. 1000 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,922 Thank you so much, Roxanne and Briana... 1001 00:35:51,922 --> 00:35:53,190 - Thank you. - For coming back 1002 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:55,425 and joining us and sharing your thoughts. 1003 00:35:55,425 --> 00:35:58,128 When we return, we'll have something that "Teen Mom" fans 1004 00:35:58,128 --> 00:36:01,998 haven't seen happen on a reunion stage in years, 1005 00:36:01,998 --> 00:36:04,935 Maci and Ryan on the couch together. 1006 00:36:04,935 --> 00:36:07,204 Trust me, you won't want to miss it. 1007 00:36:07,204 --> 00:36:11,475 [applause] 1008 00:36:11,475 --> 00:36:15,979 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 1009 00:36:15,979 --> 00:36:18,515 - What would you would have done different? 1010 00:36:18,515 --> 00:36:21,384 - I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there 1011 00:36:21,384 --> 00:36:25,255 just to see him play ball or just putting myself first. 1012 00:36:25,255 --> 00:36:27,157 - [sobbing] 1013 00:36:28,459 --> 00:36:32,296 [applause] 1014 00:36:32,296 --> 00:36:34,732 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 1015 00:36:34,732 --> 00:36:35,733 The Aftermath." 1016 00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:37,535 I'm here with Maci, 1017 00:36:37,535 --> 00:36:40,371 Ryan, Jen, and Coach B. 1018 00:36:40,371 --> 00:36:41,939 [applause] 1019 00:36:41,939 --> 00:36:44,242 We asked the other moms and grandmas to leave the stage 1020 00:36:44,242 --> 00:36:45,910 so that there won't be any distractions 1021 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:47,745 during this conversation. 1022 00:36:47,745 --> 00:36:49,213 All right, Maci. 1023 00:36:49,213 --> 00:36:53,417 What made you want Ryan and Jen at "Family Reunion"? 1024 00:36:53,417 --> 00:36:56,854 - Knowing how much I've learned and grew from the last one, 1025 00:36:56,854 --> 00:37:01,525 it was a good safe space but also a consistent space 1026 00:37:01,525 --> 00:37:05,830 where it's not just, like, one day and then months go by. 1027 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,832 You know, it's a few days, and I just felt like 1028 00:37:07,832 --> 00:37:11,402 we would be able to work through some things 1029 00:37:11,402 --> 00:37:13,971 or at least put some stuff out on the table 1030 00:37:13,971 --> 00:37:17,008 and see where it went. - Right. 1031 00:37:17,008 --> 00:37:19,210 And, Ryan, for you, why didn't you want to attend 1032 00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:20,378 "Family Reunion"? 1033 00:37:20,378 --> 00:37:22,513 - I've got a job that I have to go to. 1034 00:37:22,513 --> 00:37:24,515 - Okay, and, Jen, how about for you? 1035 00:37:24,515 --> 00:37:28,519 - I think I just wanted to be able to talk to her 1036 00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:29,854 one-one-one... - Sure. 1037 00:37:29,854 --> 00:37:33,157 - First before we went public. - Yeah. 1038 00:37:33,157 --> 00:37:34,558 And at this point, Maci, 1039 00:37:34,558 --> 00:37:37,228 how long has it been since you've spoken to Ryan? 1040 00:37:37,228 --> 00:37:38,329 - It's been a long time. 1041 00:37:38,329 --> 00:37:39,730 - A long time. - Yeah. 1042 00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:42,333 - And how would you say your relationship 1043 00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:46,370 with Ryan, Jen-- how is it currently? 1044 00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:50,274 - Honestly, Ryan and I, like, it's just kind of nonexistent. 1045 00:37:50,274 --> 00:37:53,377 And with Jen, I feel like we are 1046 00:37:53,377 --> 00:37:58,015 definitely not in the really bad place that we all were... 1047 00:37:58,015 --> 00:37:59,450 - Sure. - A couple years ago, 1048 00:37:59,450 --> 00:38:03,554 but I don't think that either of us want to, like, 1049 00:38:03,554 --> 00:38:07,858 rush it or--'cause there is-- there's a lot of crap. 1050 00:38:07,858 --> 00:38:09,660 You know, there's a lot of stuff we-- 1051 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:12,596 we have to kind of sift through. 1052 00:38:12,596 --> 00:38:13,998 - And, Jen, how about for you? 1053 00:38:13,998 --> 00:38:15,666 When you hear what Maci has to say right now, 1054 00:38:15,666 --> 00:38:16,667 what are your thoughts? 1055 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:18,536 - Oh, I mean, I agree. 1056 00:38:18,536 --> 00:38:20,438 There's a lot we need to talk about... 1057 00:38:20,438 --> 00:38:21,839 - Yeah. - Work through, 1058 00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,108 and I hope that we can, 1059 00:38:24,108 --> 00:38:27,745 would love to get a relationship back. 1060 00:38:27,745 --> 00:38:30,381 - Okay, well, Coach B, I'm gonna hand it over to you. 1061 00:38:30,381 --> 00:38:31,515 I'm hear if you need me. 1062 00:38:31,515 --> 00:38:33,084 - Got it. Thank you, Nessa. 1063 00:38:33,084 --> 00:38:36,087 Well, I first want to thank all of you for coming out 1064 00:38:36,087 --> 00:38:38,556 and trusting yourself to have this conversation. 1065 00:38:38,556 --> 00:38:40,157 It's not easy. 1066 00:38:40,157 --> 00:38:42,226 But before we dive into it, 1067 00:38:42,226 --> 00:38:44,595 I do want to start the conversation off 1068 00:38:44,595 --> 00:38:47,098 with Maci and Ryan, have a little chat with them, 1069 00:38:47,098 --> 00:38:48,766 and then I'll bring you back in... 1070 00:38:48,766 --> 00:38:50,067 - That is wonderful. - To poke at you a little bit. 1071 00:38:50,067 --> 00:38:51,769 Is that okay with you? - That is--that is-- 1072 00:38:51,769 --> 00:38:53,838 makes me happy. - You got it. All righty. 1073 00:38:53,838 --> 00:38:55,706 - Thank you. - You got it. 1074 00:38:57,308 --> 00:39:00,978 All right, so, Ryan, tell me, 1075 00:39:00,978 --> 00:39:02,947 what is your vision 1076 00:39:02,947 --> 00:39:06,984 for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci 1077 00:39:06,984 --> 00:39:10,254 that would give Bentley the best experience 1078 00:39:10,254 --> 00:39:12,723 of his two parents? 1079 00:39:12,723 --> 00:39:17,161 - I would--I'd just like to be able to, 1080 00:39:17,161 --> 00:39:19,897 I guess, for Maci to be okay 1081 00:39:19,897 --> 00:39:22,066 with just being able to see him, really. 1082 00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:25,936 I mean, hell, I haven't got to spend any time with him, 1083 00:39:25,936 --> 00:39:28,973 just me, in a long time. [sniffles] 1084 00:39:34,145 --> 00:39:35,980 - [clears throat] 1085 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:38,015 I'm gonna sit right here for a minute, 'kay? 1086 00:39:38,015 --> 00:39:39,817 Is that okay with you? 1087 00:39:39,817 --> 00:39:42,219 Okay. 1088 00:39:42,219 --> 00:39:44,455 - [voice breaking] Hell, I just miss him. 1089 00:39:47,625 --> 00:39:49,193 - What part of the relationship 1090 00:39:49,193 --> 00:39:52,963 is your heart saying you miss with Bentley? 1091 00:39:52,963 --> 00:39:56,667 - Hell, just raising him. 1092 00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:59,103 - What would you would have done different? 1093 00:39:59,103 --> 00:40:01,972 - I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there 1094 00:40:01,972 --> 00:40:05,643 just to see him play ball or just putting myself first. 1095 00:40:08,379 --> 00:40:10,347 - [sniffles] 1096 00:40:10,347 --> 00:40:12,550 - Yeah. 1097 00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:18,355 Do you think you can commit to showing up more? 1098 00:40:18,355 --> 00:40:20,057 - Yeah. 1099 00:40:20,057 --> 00:40:22,259 - So I think if you can commit to doing that 1100 00:40:22,259 --> 00:40:25,096 and communicating with him more, 1101 00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:26,730 I think that that'll start healing 1102 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:28,999 that little boy's heart. 1103 00:40:28,999 --> 00:40:32,203 Yeah? - [sniffles] 1104 00:40:32,203 --> 00:40:34,371 - Do you believe you're in a place 1105 00:40:34,371 --> 00:40:37,875 to commit to being more consistent? 1106 00:40:37,875 --> 00:40:41,078 - Yeah, if I don't have to deal with everything else 1107 00:40:41,078 --> 00:40:43,180 that I've had to in the past. 1108 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,615 - What's the everything else? 1109 00:40:44,615 --> 00:40:46,851 - Just everyone else in the way. 1110 00:40:46,851 --> 00:40:49,854 [dramatic music] 1111 00:40:49,854 --> 00:40:55,392 ♪ ♪ 1112 00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:04,302 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 1113 00:41:04,302 --> 00:41:06,003 - I just want us to try to build 1114 00:41:06,003 --> 00:41:07,405 our co-parenting foundation. 1115 00:41:07,405 --> 00:41:08,773 - I'm a survivor, baby. 1116 00:41:08,773 --> 00:41:10,908 - I don't have to always be the big, bad wolf. 1117 00:41:10,908 --> 00:41:12,009 I can chill. 1118 00:41:12,009 --> 00:41:13,311 - Oh, jeez. What's wrong? 1119 00:41:13,311 --> 00:41:14,679 - Oh, my gosh. - I don't know what's wrong. 1120 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:15,947 - I got it. I got it. I got it. - Hey, hey, Jade. 1121 00:41:15,947 --> 00:41:18,082 - Yep, you're good. You're good. 1122 00:41:18,082 --> 00:41:19,450 - Can we get a medic out here?