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- Last time on "Teen Mom
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- It was crazy.
I had to sweep the whole house.
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I'm like, what the [bleep]?
- I come in there.
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He's like, are you guys
all animals?
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[laughter]
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- Well, we were together
when he committed suicide.
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I mean, it really took it
out of me, you know?
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I was 20 or 21.
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- Are you gonna say excuse me?
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- That looked
like a bump to me.
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- Bumped or not,
you don't spit.
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- I'm not doing this.
I'm not feeding this bitch.
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- Hey, me and my mom
are gonna leave.
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- Ryan, what is your vision
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for a healthy co-parenting
relationship with Maci?
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- I'd just like to be able
to see him, really.
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Hell, I just miss him.
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- ♪ We run together ♪
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♪ They're my family ♪
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- Do you believe you're
in a place to commit
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to being more consistent?
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- Yeah, if I don't have to deal
with everything else
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that I've had to in the past.
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- What's the everything else?
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- Just everyone else
in the way.
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- OK.
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Maci,
what was going on with you
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when you were hearing
all of that?
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- I just looked at him,
and I could see the pain.
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And honestly, I felt like
I was staring at Bentley.
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I feel--
it's obviously bittersweet.
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But I really appreciate
the vulnerability,
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and the ownership,
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and where he maybe
kind of came up short
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or something that he
could have done differently.
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And then everything
he was committing to
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just felt like, little by
little, a breath of fresh air
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because it would
absolutely make
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Bentley's heart so whole
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because, Ryan, there's a part
of Bentley that is hurting.
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But he loves you so much.
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And there is only one person
that can help that hurt.
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And it's you.
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He wants a relationship with
you more than anything else.
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- Ryan, can you commit
to be consistent?
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- I mean, I don't--
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hell, I don't even know what
he's got going on anymore.
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I don't think Bentley
and I even have
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a real relationship anymore.
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But, I mean,
if it's picking him up
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at a certain time or whatever.
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- Can you commit
to FaceTiming him once a week
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just to check in and say,
"Hey, bud"?
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- Yeah, if he wants that.
- Mm-hmm.
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Well, you're his daddy.
He wants it all.
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He wants all the smoke,
trust me.
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He wants all the smoke.
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[laughs]
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Maci, what do you think
you can do to help
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this co-parenting relationship
become healthy?
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- I think, obviously, one
of them is making sure that
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I'm keeping Ryan
all the way in the loop
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as it pertains to anything
Bentley has going on
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so that he has the option
to support him and be there.
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And I think,
just from our previous attempts
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at co-parenting,
one of the things
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that really always
kind of ended it
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before it could
really start was,
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we had trouble communicating
with each other respectfully.
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- No, I agree.
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I mean, I've said some things
that were hateful.
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- Yeah,
did you want to apologize
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about the things
that were hateful?
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You don't have to name them.
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- Well, yeah, for sure,
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because I wasn't
appreciating it, you know.
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So yes, I'm sorry for that.
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- Thank you.
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I've said many things
to you that were hurtful,
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and disrespectful,
and just with blatant lack
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of regard for your feelings.
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And I also want to apologize
for not putting in more
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of an effort to understand
the battles you were fighting
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and the struggles
you were going through.
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- That's so good.
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- I should have treated you
more like a human being.
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And if I could go back
and do it different,
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I definitely would.
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But I'm gonna do it
different moving forward.
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And I'm sorry.
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There is one thing.
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- Wait, so I'm gonna--
is it OK if I'm gonna
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come back over here?
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- Yeah.
- OK?
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Because I think
this was so good.
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Anything that we left out?
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- Well, one thing
I was thinking--
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I would like to try our best
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to do this co-parenting
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just between the two
of us and then,
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as we feel comfortable
or confident
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in bringing others into it,
if that's OK.
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- I'm so proud of you both.
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I'm so, so, so,
so proud of you both.
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Thank you.
- Thank you.
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- Yeah, well,
let's bring Jen back out here.
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- Look at that smile.
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- Yeah, yeah.
- Mm.
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- I love you.
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- I can't with this.
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Oh, man.
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This is emotional.
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How did you feel watching
Ryan open up the way he did?
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- I'm very happy that he did
because he's not one
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to show a lot of emotion.
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I'm very, very proud of him.
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- Me too.
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- He has the best heart.
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He has a heart like Bentley.
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He just doesn't always show it.
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- You've been the co-parent
grandma bear the whole time.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- What do you think
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- I would love to step back,
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and I would love
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and work things out
co-parenting.
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I know Ryan needs that.
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He needs to feel like
he is special in Bentley's life
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as his dad.
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- I mean, I'd just like to
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without having
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- Bentley would love that
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and being able to do stuff
just you and him.
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- Jen, did you think
we would ever see this day?
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- Oh, I knew it was possible.
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I just didn't know when.
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- I'm so happy
for everyone right now.
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Coach B, thank you
for helping them get to a place
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that they wanted to get to.
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- Yeah.
- Amazing.
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It's Ashley's turn
on the couch up next.
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- You guys!
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♪ ♪
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- Tonight, on "Teen Mom Family
Reunion: The Aftermath"...
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- Everybody is like
their mom's mini-me.
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- Agh!
- April--
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- I mean that
in the best way possible.
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- I don't like her.
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I don't like anything
about that bitch.
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- I guess I could have took
the high road and walked away,
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but I'm not Michelle Obama.
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I'm Tea.
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- She's about ready
to pass out.
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- Can we get a medic out here?
- What's wrong?
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- Can we call a medic?
A medic.
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- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
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The Aftermath."
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I'm now here with Ashley,
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her mother, Tea,
and Coach B.
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First of all, Ashley,
I want to just ask you,
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how have you--how's everything
been going as far as, like,
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with your pregnancy
and all that stuff?
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How are you,
before we dig into anything.
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- I'm OK.
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I'm sad to say
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we actually had a miscarriage.
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So there's--
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- Not--
- You had a miscarriage?
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- Yeah, so we won't be--
- I'm sorry.
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- Having a little one,
but I am--
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- Oh, I'm so sorry.
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- Thank you, Nessa.
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- How are you feeling
about that, though?
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Because that's a lot to carry.
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- I don't know.
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I'm still kind of,
like, you know,
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trying to get back to myself.
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- Are you getting
help for that, though,
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Ashley, as far as,
like, the grieving
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of the miscarriage?
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Because that's not something
easy to experience
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nor something
that goes away like that.
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- I know I should be.
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But I am the kind of person
that just kind of, like,
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steamrolls over things.
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I think we all know this.
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I'm not a "sit in your emotions
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type of person.
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- But I do want you to get help
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with grieving
of the miscarriage.
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Even your emotions
that you suppressed when Bar
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was in jail
and you were pregnant,
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you need to be able
to have a place that's safe
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that you can unload
and then get in contact
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with what you're feeling and
where to put those emotions.
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- Can you commit to at least
attempting to do that?
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- Yeah.
- OK.
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- I can.
- Tea, hold her accountable.
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- OK, I will.
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I will.
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- From my understanding,
in order for you guys
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to come out here,
there was an agreement
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that you just didn't want to be
on stage with the other moms.
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- I just didn't want
to be blindsided
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by no bull[bleep].
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I just feel like sometimes
things are made up or gassed up
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so there appears to be, like,
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a problem when really,
there's not.
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- The fight did happen.
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So where are you
with that at this point?
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- Oh, I'm over it.
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I was over it
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really, to be honest.
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- Tea, how about for you?
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- I'm traumatized.
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I went into an environment,
like, open,
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not really understanding
all the dynamics.
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For me, this was like
I had told April.
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You know, I was expecting
to glean a lot from the mothers
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that were there,
so I was kind of just, like,
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sitting back,
trying to observe.
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I'm the new one in the group.
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So that's where I was with it.
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- What happened
to cause all of this?
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What is the root of the issue?
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- There was just too much
disrespect taking place.
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And I just didn't
understand why
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it was all of a sudden
turned on that night,
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after we had had that
long, drawn emotional day
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in the mud with Coach B.
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Everything was OK.
Everybody did their thing.
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Then, boom,
all of a sudden, at dinner,
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there's a problem to be served.
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- Now, obviously,
the fight that happened
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is a big part of this season.
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There is a clip.
Do you want to see it?
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- Yeah, I don't--
that [bleep] was a blur.
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- Tea, you OK to watch it?
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Let's go ahead and roll it.
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[tense music]
256
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- What's the problem, Roxanne?
257
00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:52,226
- The problem is
that your daughter
258
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inserted herself in a situation
that she--
259
00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:55,063
- OK, no, listen.
260
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- Had no business
inserting herself in.
261
00:10:56,431 --> 00:10:58,800
No, my daughter would never
talk to any mother
262
00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,136
in this [bleep] table the way
your daughter speaks to me.
263
00:11:02,136 --> 00:11:03,905
- Well, Roxanne--
- I don't want to hear it.
264
00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:05,840
You have nothing to say
to me, Tea.
265
00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,542
- I don't give a [bleep],
bitch!
266
00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:09,844
- Hold on.
- I don't give a [bleep]!
267
00:11:09,844 --> 00:11:11,345
- No, you--
- I don't give a [bleep]!
268
00:11:11,345 --> 00:11:13,147
I don't give a [bleep]!
269
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♪ ♪
270
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- Are you gonna say excuse me?
271
00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:18,286
- Stop.
Stop being so dramatic.
272
00:11:18,286 --> 00:11:20,488
- You bump me, I'ma grab
your mother[bleep] ass.
273
00:11:20,488 --> 00:11:21,489
- Hey, hey, hey.
Come on.
274
00:11:21,489 --> 00:11:22,790
- I didn't bump you.
275
00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,192
- You did.
- No.
276
00:11:24,192 --> 00:11:25,493
- You did, [bleep].
277
00:11:25,493 --> 00:11:26,894
- You're not your mother.
You don't know.
278
00:11:26,894 --> 00:11:28,229
- No--
- [bleep].
279
00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:29,664
- Because if y'all want to go,
we really can.
280
00:11:29,664 --> 00:11:31,032
We really can.
- Let's go.
281
00:11:31,032 --> 00:11:32,100
- Well, then, we can.
Let's go.
282
00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:33,301
- We really can.
283
00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:34,602
- Let's go because they
don't want that.
284
00:11:34,602 --> 00:11:35,603
Let's go.
- We really can.
285
00:11:35,603 --> 00:11:37,105
- Come on.
We have to go.
286
00:11:37,105 --> 00:11:38,206
- Why are you up there?
287
00:11:38,206 --> 00:11:40,441
Get down, baby.
Get down.
288
00:11:40,441 --> 00:11:42,543
- No, so I could kick you in
your [bleep] throat.
289
00:11:42,543 --> 00:11:43,845
- 'Cause you can't fight?
- No.
290
00:11:43,845 --> 00:11:45,079
[bleep] you, bitch.
- 'Cause you can't fight?
291
00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:46,080
- [bleep] you.
- Get down.
292
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- [bleep] my [bleep], Ash.
293
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[dramatic music]
294
00:11:50,351 --> 00:11:51,486
- Bitch!
295
00:11:51,486 --> 00:11:52,987
[all yelling]
296
00:11:52,987 --> 00:11:55,623
- Come on, bitch.
Come on, bitch.
297
00:11:55,623 --> 00:11:57,525
Come on, bitch!
- [bleep] you!
298
00:11:57,525 --> 00:11:59,327
- Oh, you want to go?
299
00:11:59,327 --> 00:12:00,862
You want to go, bitch?
300
00:12:00,862 --> 00:12:03,030
- [bleep] you.
- [bleep] you.
301
00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:06,434
- [sighs]
302
00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:07,902
- What are you
thinking and feeling
303
00:12:07,902 --> 00:12:10,438
when you're watching that?
304
00:12:10,438 --> 00:12:11,806
- I'm not bothered, you know?
305
00:12:11,806 --> 00:12:15,777
I think--is that the person
that I want to be?
306
00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,078
Absolutely not.
307
00:12:17,078 --> 00:12:18,846
It's not a lot of people
that can tell you
308
00:12:18,846 --> 00:12:20,348
them type of stories about me.
309
00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:23,584
So when I get out of character,
310
00:12:23,584 --> 00:12:25,586
trust me, it's for a reason.
311
00:12:25,586 --> 00:12:30,992
And how I feel is Roxy
and my mom went back and forth.
312
00:12:30,992 --> 00:12:33,294
I didn't--more than once.
313
00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:34,529
I didn't get in it
314
00:12:34,529 --> 00:12:37,198
because I would never try
to go for Roxy.
315
00:12:37,198 --> 00:12:39,567
She's not my equal.
316
00:12:39,567 --> 00:12:43,004
As soon as Briana started
trying to check my mom,
317
00:12:43,004 --> 00:12:44,639
that was not right to me.
318
00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,707
And that put me
in a protective mode.
319
00:12:46,707 --> 00:12:48,709
Like, as you can see,
I was like, hey,
320
00:12:48,709 --> 00:12:49,944
we ain't gonna do all that.
321
00:12:49,944 --> 00:12:51,145
We ain't gonna do all that.
322
00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:53,214
But why are you sitting
right behind me,
323
00:12:53,214 --> 00:12:54,582
talking, talking, talking,
324
00:12:54,582 --> 00:12:56,384
and your mama talking,
talking, talking?
325
00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:58,853
It's making me think that
we about to get to thumpin'.
326
00:12:58,853 --> 00:13:01,956
So Roxy had already
grabbed the chair.
327
00:13:01,956 --> 00:13:03,457
She'd already been
yelling, already--
328
00:13:03,457 --> 00:13:04,792
now you bumping.
329
00:13:04,792 --> 00:13:06,761
Like, how much further
are you guys gonna go?
330
00:13:06,761 --> 00:13:08,930
- And, Tea, I was watching you.
331
00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:12,166
You looked like you were
revisiting, like, the anger
332
00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:13,768
that you were feeling there.
333
00:13:13,768 --> 00:13:17,672
- I was appalled, first of all,
334
00:13:17,672 --> 00:13:21,242
to have a day with you
335
00:13:21,242 --> 00:13:25,146
and to be in that mode
of healing...
336
00:13:25,146 --> 00:13:26,414
- Right.
337
00:13:26,414 --> 00:13:28,616
- And to be expressing that
at the table
338
00:13:28,616 --> 00:13:34,522
and to be sabotaged,
where I was speaking healing,
339
00:13:34,522 --> 00:13:39,961
and she was agitating
the situation.
340
00:13:39,961 --> 00:13:43,097
And I asked Roxy
if she wanted to speak.
341
00:13:43,097 --> 00:13:46,767
She went on and she spoke,
said whatever she had to say,
342
00:13:46,767 --> 00:13:48,803
and I waited peacefully.
343
00:13:48,803 --> 00:13:51,839
But soon as I began to speak,
she was just like,
344
00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:53,074
"I don't want to hear it."
345
00:13:53,074 --> 00:13:55,776
And it's like--
that was the first thing.
346
00:13:55,776 --> 00:13:59,547
And then it escalated
to her picking up a chair,
347
00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:01,115
all of these other things.
348
00:14:01,115 --> 00:14:02,717
Now, mind you, at the hotel,
349
00:14:02,717 --> 00:14:05,253
it had already been
dirty looks.
350
00:14:05,253 --> 00:14:07,154
This had been building.
351
00:14:07,154 --> 00:14:08,256
OK?
352
00:14:08,256 --> 00:14:09,957
So now we're in the kitchen.
353
00:14:09,957 --> 00:14:12,793
We go in to get some more wine,
and she's there.
354
00:14:12,793 --> 00:14:14,562
But I'm not thinking
twice about it.
355
00:14:14,562 --> 00:14:18,666
It's like, we old enough
to know to keep our distance.
356
00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:20,935
But then she bumps me again.
357
00:14:20,935 --> 00:14:22,737
And then that's
when I'm like, OK.
358
00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:25,039
I got to call her on this,
359
00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:27,642
or she gon' be
forever my bully.
360
00:14:27,642 --> 00:14:31,312
So at that moment, it's like,
"Yo, you could apologize."
361
00:14:31,312 --> 00:14:32,880
"Well,
I'm not gonna apologize."
362
00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,448
OK.
363
00:14:34,448 --> 00:14:36,050
Well, then,
only thing I can tell you is--
364
00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:37,385
- That's what made
me feel like--
365
00:14:37,385 --> 00:14:38,953
- If you bump me again--
- They wanted to fight.
366
00:14:38,953 --> 00:14:41,155
- I'm gon' have
to snatch you up.
367
00:14:41,155 --> 00:14:42,990
- There's no reason,
as a grown woman,
368
00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:44,725
why you can't just say,
"Oh, my bad.
369
00:14:44,725 --> 00:14:46,027
I didn't mean to bump you,
girl, my bad."
370
00:14:46,027 --> 00:14:47,328
- Right.
371
00:14:47,328 --> 00:14:48,496
- Even if you said,
"Girl, I didn't even mean
372
00:14:48,496 --> 00:14:49,830
to bump you, my bad,"
with a attitude.
373
00:14:49,830 --> 00:14:52,767
But when you say,
"I'm not gonna say excuse me,"
374
00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:54,869
this is my mom.
375
00:14:54,869 --> 00:14:58,372
You're going to say
excuse me, period.
376
00:14:58,372 --> 00:15:00,708
- I mean, I guess I could
have took the high road
377
00:15:00,708 --> 00:15:03,077
and walked away,
but I'm not Michelle Obama.
378
00:15:03,077 --> 00:15:05,179
I'm Tea.
You know what I'm saying?
379
00:15:05,179 --> 00:15:07,381
If you want to take it low,
I can take it low too.
380
00:15:07,381 --> 00:15:09,684
I know how to limbo,
you know what I'm saying?
381
00:15:09,684 --> 00:15:13,587
So I believe that it was
an extremely unfortunate event.
382
00:15:13,587 --> 00:15:15,423
I hate that it happened,
383
00:15:15,423 --> 00:15:17,792
and especially
for the world to see.
384
00:15:17,792 --> 00:15:20,995
But at the end of the day,
it was straight disrespect
385
00:15:20,995 --> 00:15:24,465
and violation to my whole soul.
386
00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:25,666
- Let's pause right here,
387
00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:27,401
and we'll be back
right after this.
388
00:15:27,401 --> 00:15:30,604
♪ ♪
389
00:15:31,939 --> 00:15:33,708
[tense music]
390
00:15:33,708 --> 00:15:35,777
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
391
00:15:35,777 --> 00:15:36,944
The Aftermath."
392
00:15:36,944 --> 00:15:39,013
We're still here
with Ashley and Tea.
393
00:15:39,013 --> 00:15:41,749
Now, from my understanding,
the frustration,
394
00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:46,087
from what I was able to gather,
is that, apparently,
395
00:15:46,087 --> 00:15:47,622
you have said
some things online--
396
00:15:47,622 --> 00:15:49,590
- Let me--
let's get this straight.
397
00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:54,495
Roxy is the one who went online
and said some stuff.
398
00:15:54,495 --> 00:15:57,332
I was tagged by the fan base,
399
00:15:57,332 --> 00:16:01,102
who tagged me into Roxy
having a whole little meltdown
400
00:16:01,102 --> 00:16:02,603
about Ashley.
401
00:16:02,603 --> 00:16:06,107
I then addressed her and said,
"Who is Roxanne?
402
00:16:06,107 --> 00:16:08,910
"And whoever this Roxanne is,
her dirty-ass daughter..."
403
00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:12,113
whatever I said,
because at that point,
404
00:16:12,113 --> 00:16:13,781
you were talking
about my daughter.
405
00:16:13,781 --> 00:16:15,016
I don't know you, lady.
406
00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,617
I didn't even know
Roxanne until then.
407
00:16:16,617 --> 00:16:19,687
But you crazy and out
of your mind if you think
408
00:16:19,687 --> 00:16:21,789
that you can speak
on somebody else's child,
409
00:16:21,789 --> 00:16:24,559
and then somebody is not gonna
say something about yours.
410
00:16:24,559 --> 00:16:27,762
So, Roxy, you started it.
411
00:16:27,762 --> 00:16:30,198
- Now, Ashley,
where is the issue stemming
412
00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:31,733
between you and Briana?
413
00:16:31,733 --> 00:16:34,168
- I just don't like
that dirty-[bleep] bitch.
414
00:16:34,168 --> 00:16:35,336
She's a snake.
415
00:16:35,336 --> 00:16:36,637
She's messy.
416
00:16:36,637 --> 00:16:40,108
She's a fake-ass,
selective, wannabe bully.
417
00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:42,510
Oh, she's a follower.
I don't like her.
418
00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:44,846
I don't like anything
about that bitch.
419
00:16:45,847 --> 00:16:48,316
- She said she had
no problem with you--
420
00:16:48,316 --> 00:16:49,784
- Oh--
- Before all this.
421
00:16:49,784 --> 00:16:52,086
So just maybe--
- Who'd she say that to, Jesus?
422
00:16:52,086 --> 00:16:53,921
- Was that for the camera?
- Wait, wait.
423
00:16:53,921 --> 00:16:55,990
- You said she had no problem
with Ashley prior to this?
424
00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:57,425
- Yeah, she had no
problem with her--
425
00:16:57,425 --> 00:16:58,626
- Prior to the incident.
- Yeah.
426
00:16:58,626 --> 00:17:00,094
We're talking about prior
to the incident--
427
00:17:00,094 --> 00:17:01,662
- Prior to the incident, yes.
- No, that's not true.
428
00:17:01,662 --> 00:17:03,264
Let's tell it what it is.
429
00:17:03,264 --> 00:17:07,702
Back in the day, her baby daddy
gave a statement to a blog,
430
00:17:07,702 --> 00:17:10,304
or he tweeted, or something--
this is with all respect
431
00:17:10,304 --> 00:17:11,939
to Devoin because
he's got a girl now,
432
00:17:11,939 --> 00:17:13,541
and I love them both.
433
00:17:13,541 --> 00:17:16,344
But back in the day,
when he was single,
434
00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:18,112
he says something
along the lines of,
435
00:17:18,112 --> 00:17:19,814
oh, she's bad,
or, she's beautiful--
436
00:17:19,814 --> 00:17:20,815
- Who's bad?
- To me.
437
00:17:20,815 --> 00:17:22,150
- About you, OK.
- Yes.
438
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:23,951
And it was picked up,
and it was retweeted.
439
00:17:23,951 --> 00:17:25,987
And I seen some funny [bleep]
that she said.
440
00:17:25,987 --> 00:17:27,722
I don't remember
verbatim what it was.
441
00:17:27,722 --> 00:17:29,757
But I seen something.
442
00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:32,126
And that's what kicked it off.
443
00:17:32,126 --> 00:17:34,929
People like to throw rocks
and hide their hands.
444
00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:37,532
And they bank on the fact
that I'm not gonna
445
00:17:37,532 --> 00:17:38,866
call it to the forefront.
446
00:17:38,866 --> 00:17:40,535
No, bitch, I seen it.
447
00:17:40,535 --> 00:17:42,136
I have a problem with it.
448
00:17:42,136 --> 00:17:44,038
And I want to address it.
449
00:17:44,038 --> 00:17:46,274
And that's what they're
hoping I don't do,
450
00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:48,376
because every time I do, it's,
"Oh, I don't have a problem.
451
00:17:48,376 --> 00:17:50,378
I don't know where
this friction came from."
452
00:17:50,378 --> 00:17:53,948
- Is this something
that maybe can get cleared up?
453
00:17:53,948 --> 00:17:56,451
- No, I'll never deal
with that bitch in my life.
454
00:17:56,451 --> 00:17:58,519
- What does
the healing look like?
455
00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:00,221
Is it coexisting for you two?
456
00:18:00,221 --> 00:18:01,889
- It's definitely coexisting.
457
00:18:01,889 --> 00:18:03,991
- But then what happens
when there is a look
458
00:18:03,991 --> 00:18:06,160
that's exchanged or--
459
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,796
- Just the same way we spent
all those days at "TMFR."
460
00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:10,164
And there was--
- There was a lot of--
461
00:18:10,164 --> 00:18:11,432
- Funny [bleep] being said--
- Looks exchanged.
462
00:18:11,432 --> 00:18:12,900
- Looks exchanged,
[bleep] under the breath.
463
00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:13,901
I didn't address none of it.
464
00:18:13,901 --> 00:18:15,803
I don't have to, you know,
465
00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:18,206
always be the big, bad wolf
blowing down somebody's door.
466
00:18:18,206 --> 00:18:19,574
I can chill.
467
00:18:19,574 --> 00:18:24,045
- If an apology was something
that was needed
468
00:18:24,045 --> 00:18:26,848
for the process of healing
469
00:18:26,848 --> 00:18:29,450
to move forward
into even just coexisting--
470
00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:30,818
- Mm-hmm.
471
00:18:30,818 --> 00:18:33,988
- Would that be something
y'all would be open to?
472
00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:36,257
both: No.
- Not giving or receiving?
473
00:18:36,257 --> 00:18:37,525
- Because I only
apologize for things
474
00:18:37,525 --> 00:18:39,193
that I truly feel
remorseful for.
475
00:18:39,193 --> 00:18:40,495
- And--
- You know?
476
00:18:40,495 --> 00:18:42,096
- I just want to piggyback
on that to say,
477
00:18:42,096 --> 00:18:44,365
I won't be apologizing
to anyone
478
00:18:44,365 --> 00:18:47,535
because I apologized
to everybody that night.
479
00:18:47,535 --> 00:18:50,605
I tried to really make
peace and just say,
480
00:18:50,605 --> 00:18:54,008
you know, an apology doesn't
hurt me none, you know?
481
00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:55,343
And so I gave it.
482
00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:57,011
But I kind of feel like
I just want
483
00:18:57,011 --> 00:18:59,380
my apology back at this point.
484
00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:02,016
- But if a conversation
needs to be had,
485
00:19:02,016 --> 00:19:06,754
right, with you, Ashley,
are you and Tea with the group?
486
00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:08,956
Because majority of them--
487
00:19:08,956 --> 00:19:10,491
you know,
and it's not a secret--
488
00:19:10,491 --> 00:19:15,029
majority of them feel like you
and Tea were in the wrong.
489
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:16,330
- That's so good for them.
490
00:19:16,330 --> 00:19:18,366
- But so I'm saying,
with that being said,
491
00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:20,101
right,
if there was a conversation,
492
00:19:20,101 --> 00:19:21,302
what would that look like?
493
00:19:21,302 --> 00:19:22,303
- If that was the way
I was treated,
494
00:19:22,303 --> 00:19:23,237
and they felt that I was wrong,
495
00:19:23,237 --> 00:19:24,372
then these are some bitches
496
00:19:24,372 --> 00:19:25,473
I don't want
to be friends with.
497
00:19:25,473 --> 00:19:28,142
- Just as they're
condemning me,
498
00:19:28,142 --> 00:19:30,111
they would all have
to condemn Briana
499
00:19:30,111 --> 00:19:31,779
for jumping
on the countertop saying
500
00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:34,916
she was gonna kick me in
my face or condemn Roxy for--
501
00:19:34,916 --> 00:19:35,917
- Now, who said--
- Picking up a chair--
502
00:19:35,917 --> 00:19:37,318
- That was wrong?
503
00:19:37,318 --> 00:19:38,886
- For picking up a chair
and acting like she
504
00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:40,621
was gonna throw it at my mom.
505
00:19:40,621 --> 00:19:42,089
See,
that's the double standard.
506
00:19:42,089 --> 00:19:43,257
- Right.
507
00:19:43,257 --> 00:19:44,692
- I don't see
the same accountability.
508
00:19:44,692 --> 00:19:45,993
- Mm-hmm.
509
00:19:45,993 --> 00:19:48,496
- And that's that clique,
clique, gang-up [bleep].
510
00:19:48,496 --> 00:19:50,464
And that's what
I don't [bleep] with.
511
00:19:50,464 --> 00:19:51,933
I don't owe them
a conversation.
512
00:19:51,933 --> 00:19:54,035
I don't owe them
a mother[bleep] breath.
513
00:19:54,035 --> 00:19:56,704
- I totally-- yeah, I'm
not in disagreeance with--
514
00:19:56,704 --> 00:19:57,939
- Yeah.
- Anything, and I think--
515
00:19:57,939 --> 00:19:59,140
- No.
516
00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:00,508
- That, again,
you both have every right
517
00:20:00,508 --> 00:20:01,943
to feel the way you feel.
518
00:20:01,943 --> 00:20:04,445
You both have totally
different experiences
519
00:20:04,445 --> 00:20:06,380
of the same situation.
520
00:20:06,380 --> 00:20:08,215
And you're not wrong
for saying, again,
521
00:20:08,215 --> 00:20:10,751
no, some things you just
can't come back from.
522
00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:14,488
Can I just offer that you do
not negate your voice,
523
00:20:14,488 --> 00:20:17,258
you do not negate what you
feel about this at all,
524
00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:20,328
that you think about what
does common ground look like.
525
00:20:20,328 --> 00:20:21,562
I'm not saying
you got to move on it.
526
00:20:21,562 --> 00:20:22,697
We don't need no movement.
527
00:20:22,697 --> 00:20:25,600
But just process
what that looks like
528
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,703
just in case that conversation
does come up.
529
00:20:28,703 --> 00:20:30,271
- Think about it.
530
00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:33,608
I appreciate you both being
so honest and open right now.
531
00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:35,409
And, Coach B, as always,
thank you for sharing your--
532
00:20:35,409 --> 00:20:36,844
- Yeah, totally.
- Words of wisdom.
533
00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:38,546
Up next, we'll find
out what Cheyenne
534
00:20:38,546 --> 00:20:41,082
and Zach learned
from Zach's first-ever session
535
00:20:41,082 --> 00:20:42,216
with Coach B.
536
00:20:42,216 --> 00:20:44,885
[upbeat music]
537
00:20:44,885 --> 00:20:46,887
[applause]
538
00:20:48,122 --> 00:20:50,224
- Show the ring off, Zach.
Show it off.
539
00:20:51,492 --> 00:20:52,927
- Oh.
- What's wrong?
540
00:20:52,927 --> 00:20:54,195
- Oh, my gosh.
541
00:20:54,195 --> 00:20:56,130
- I don't know what's wrong.
- Is she OK?
542
00:20:57,398 --> 00:21:00,368
[upbeat music]
543
00:21:00,368 --> 00:21:02,303
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
544
00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,371
The Aftermath."
545
00:21:03,371 --> 00:21:04,739
Sitting with me
now is Cheyenne,
546
00:21:04,739 --> 00:21:07,141
and let's also welcome
her husband, Zach.
547
00:21:07,141 --> 00:21:08,609
- Husband.
548
00:21:08,609 --> 00:21:10,111
He a whole-ass husband.
549
00:21:10,111 --> 00:21:11,412
- [laughs]
- We like it.
550
00:21:11,412 --> 00:21:12,814
Show the ring off, Zach.
551
00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:15,049
Show it off.
Let's take a moment right now.
552
00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:16,250
- Bling-bling.
553
00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:17,952
- Give the ring
a round of applause.
554
00:21:17,952 --> 00:21:19,821
- Oh, shut up, guys.
- We like it.
555
00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:20,822
- No, she did.
- Wait.
556
00:21:20,822 --> 00:21:22,056
- She did great.
557
00:21:22,056 --> 00:21:23,124
- Well, Chey,
talk to me a little bit.
558
00:21:23,124 --> 00:21:24,392
What resonated
with you the most
559
00:21:24,392 --> 00:21:26,227
from your experience
at "Family Reunion."
560
00:21:26,227 --> 00:21:28,162
- I was nervous
to bring my mom.
561
00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:30,064
We have the same face.
562
00:21:30,064 --> 00:21:31,699
These girls know me.
563
00:21:31,699 --> 00:21:34,836
So they know that, like,
my face is just still.
564
00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:35,970
Like, it's just dry.
565
00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:37,104
It's a bitch face.
566
00:21:37,104 --> 00:21:38,206
But they know me.
567
00:21:38,206 --> 00:21:39,207
- That's what I
say all the time.
568
00:21:39,207 --> 00:21:40,241
- So they've never met.
569
00:21:40,241 --> 00:21:41,609
She has the same face.
570
00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:43,544
So I didn't want
anyone to think,
571
00:21:43,544 --> 00:21:45,379
damn, Chey's mom is a bitch--
572
00:21:45,379 --> 00:21:47,582
like, you know, has, like,
resting bitch face too.
573
00:21:47,582 --> 00:21:49,050
So I was just nervous.
574
00:21:49,050 --> 00:21:50,918
And I feel like my mom
has the same pack of friends
575
00:21:50,918 --> 00:21:52,520
from, like, the sandbox.
576
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,389
I've never really seen, like,
any new friends introduced.
577
00:21:55,389 --> 00:21:57,258
So I was nervous,
like, is my mom gonna
578
00:21:57,258 --> 00:21:58,926
remember how to make friends?
579
00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:04,432
So I was really excited
to see her branch out
580
00:22:04,432 --> 00:22:06,601
and, like, hang out
with the other moms
581
00:22:06,601 --> 00:22:08,202
and make connections.
582
00:22:08,202 --> 00:22:10,538
And I think that was kind
of like my favorite part
583
00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:13,207
besides my husband showing up.
584
00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:15,643
- Hey.
- All right, Mrs. Davis.
585
00:22:15,643 --> 00:22:17,712
- And, Zach,
this was your first session--
586
00:22:17,712 --> 00:22:19,247
- Yes, it was.
- Right, ever?
587
00:22:19,247 --> 00:22:20,681
And this happened with Coach B.
588
00:22:20,681 --> 00:22:22,149
- Yeah, I'm glad that I did it.
589
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:24,886
I'm glad I had the chance
to sit down and meet with her.
590
00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:28,556
- Now, with Coach B,
she had mentioned that you tend
591
00:22:28,556 --> 00:22:30,591
to turn into Mama Bear,
592
00:22:30,591 --> 00:22:33,027
and Zach will turn into a
little boy,
593
00:22:33,027 --> 00:22:35,463
and that's the kind
of dynamic between you two.
594
00:22:35,463 --> 00:22:36,998
How did you take that,
how did you receive it,
595
00:22:36,998 --> 00:22:39,533
and what are you gonna
do with that information?
596
00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:42,670
- I didn't necessarily like it
because I didn't really agree.
597
00:22:42,670 --> 00:22:44,538
I felt like putting
those titles on it
598
00:22:44,538 --> 00:22:45,740
was a little demeaning to him,
599
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,808
and I never viewed him
as a little boy.
600
00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:49,243
That's my man.
601
00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:50,745
That's how I view him.
602
00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:53,180
I think that I'm just
naturally a nurturing person
603
00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:55,182
and want to take care
of everybody around me,
604
00:22:55,182 --> 00:22:56,350
Zach included.
605
00:22:56,350 --> 00:22:58,286
But I know that that's
our relationship
606
00:22:58,286 --> 00:22:59,487
behind closed doors.
607
00:22:59,487 --> 00:23:01,522
So maybe,
to an outside eye looking in,
608
00:23:01,522 --> 00:23:03,190
that's what you
can take from it.
609
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,192
But that's not
our relationship.
610
00:23:05,192 --> 00:23:06,394
- Yeah.
- Got it.
611
00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:10,097
- Did you notice
a difference with Zach?
612
00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:12,667
- Honestly, yeah,
because when she was saying it,
613
00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:14,001
I'm boiling.
614
00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:16,103
And he was, like,
all cool and calm.
615
00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,240
And I'm like,
"Get her, get her, get her.
616
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,441
Do something."
617
00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:21,709
But he's, like,
coachable, I guess,
618
00:23:21,709 --> 00:23:22,843
and I'm un-coachable because--
619
00:23:22,843 --> 00:23:24,145
- Nah, it was--
620
00:23:24,145 --> 00:23:25,446
- I was like--
- That's the thing, though.
621
00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:26,814
- "Say it again."
No, I'm just kidding.
622
00:23:26,814 --> 00:23:28,215
[laughter]
623
00:23:28,215 --> 00:23:30,184
- Well, I want to hear
all about Cheyenne's mom's
624
00:23:30,184 --> 00:23:31,819
experience on "Family Reunion."
625
00:23:31,819 --> 00:23:34,388
So let's bring
Margaret down here.
626
00:23:34,388 --> 00:23:35,623
Come on down, Margaret.
627
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:38,626
[cheers and applause]
628
00:23:38,626 --> 00:23:41,996
[upbeat music]
629
00:23:42,763 --> 00:23:44,498
Margaret, tell me,
how was your experience
630
00:23:44,498 --> 00:23:45,700
at "Family Reunion"?
631
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,435
- I had a great experience.
632
00:23:47,435 --> 00:23:52,974
My goal was to understand
my daughter better
633
00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:55,977
and almost feel what she feels.
634
00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:58,045
I mean,
I'm a very protective mom.
635
00:23:58,045 --> 00:24:01,082
And I know
that she deals with a lot
636
00:24:01,082 --> 00:24:03,718
and goes through a lot
with the career path
637
00:24:03,718 --> 00:24:05,186
that she's chosen.
638
00:24:05,186 --> 00:24:07,488
So it gave me
a little insight into her
639
00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:10,424
and all these other beautiful
ladies and the moms.
640
00:24:10,424 --> 00:24:12,493
We need to support these girls.
641
00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:14,061
- Well said.
642
00:24:14,061 --> 00:24:16,831
Here's some unseen footage
from the unstuck activity.
643
00:24:16,831 --> 00:24:18,699
[soft music]
644
00:24:18,699 --> 00:24:19,900
- It's like Dad didn't--
645
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,803
he was a great provider.
646
00:24:22,803 --> 00:24:24,005
He was a great father.
647
00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:25,239
I mean, he's still
a great provider.
648
00:24:25,239 --> 00:24:26,574
He's still a great father.
649
00:24:26,574 --> 00:24:28,609
But when it comes to,
like, the love aspect,
650
00:24:28,609 --> 00:24:31,045
like, when did you guys
hold hands,
651
00:24:31,045 --> 00:24:32,947
or did you guys kiss?
652
00:24:32,947 --> 00:24:35,750
Did he buy you flowers?
653
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:37,051
Right?
654
00:24:37,051 --> 00:24:38,652
- But that's why I left.
655
00:24:38,652 --> 00:24:41,022
And that's why I told them
I was leaving,
656
00:24:41,022 --> 00:24:43,324
because I wanted them to see
what love looked like.
657
00:24:43,324 --> 00:24:44,692
- Right.
- Yeah.
658
00:24:44,692 --> 00:24:46,994
- OK, how did you feel
when Cheyenne expressed
659
00:24:46,994 --> 00:24:50,531
that she did not want
to have a loveless marriage,
660
00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:52,800
something that she
saw you go through
661
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,435
with your first husband?
662
00:24:54,435 --> 00:24:57,671
- Well, we did not--
we loved each other.
663
00:24:57,671 --> 00:25:00,508
But we didn't--
we got together young.
664
00:25:00,508 --> 00:25:02,576
So she didn't see
a lot of affection.
665
00:25:02,576 --> 00:25:06,380
But for some reason,
we just got stuck into a rut.
666
00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:09,016
And it wasn't shown.
667
00:25:09,016 --> 00:25:10,484
But the love was there.
668
00:25:10,484 --> 00:25:12,186
- And how did that
impact you, Chey?
669
00:25:12,186 --> 00:25:15,923
- I saw love
within my household growing up.
670
00:25:15,923 --> 00:25:17,691
It wasn't, like,
a cold household.
671
00:25:17,691 --> 00:25:21,028
But I didn't see,
like, a lot of affection.
672
00:25:21,028 --> 00:25:24,665
When my parents did divorce,
my mom was like, that's not--
673
00:25:24,665 --> 00:25:26,333
that should not be your norm.
674
00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:28,169
Like, I don't want that
to be your norm.
675
00:25:28,169 --> 00:25:31,072
I want someone
who is gonna hold your hand,
676
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:34,909
and bring you flowers,
and slap your butt, like,
677
00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:36,077
you know, like--
678
00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:37,344
- Romance you.
679
00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:39,380
- Yeah, she's like,
you have to realize
680
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:41,749
that your partner needs
to make love to you
681
00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:44,819
all day long, but not--
682
00:25:44,819 --> 00:25:48,055
not sex, but, like, mentally,
you know what I mean?
683
00:25:48,055 --> 00:25:50,157
Like, I look
for those things now.
684
00:25:50,157 --> 00:25:53,861
And I feel like that's
because I've listened to her,
685
00:25:53,861 --> 00:25:57,064
and I've seen what I loved
from my parents' marriage.
686
00:25:57,064 --> 00:25:59,500
And I try
to implement it in ours.
687
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,237
- Why do you think Zach
and Chey's relationship
688
00:26:03,237 --> 00:26:04,605
is so much stronger?
689
00:26:04,605 --> 00:26:06,107
- They started off as friends.
690
00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:08,209
- Right.
- And that makes a difference.
691
00:26:08,209 --> 00:26:11,145
You won't do to your friend
what you'll do to your lover.
692
00:26:11,145 --> 00:26:12,646
I mean, there's a difference.
693
00:26:12,646 --> 00:26:15,249
And he's a very loyal friend.
694
00:26:15,249 --> 00:26:18,285
And it just blossomed.
695
00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,386
- That's amazing.
696
00:26:19,386 --> 00:26:20,921
- So--
- I love this.
697
00:26:20,921 --> 00:26:23,190
You all have a beautiful
family for sure.
698
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:24,458
- Thank you.
699
00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:26,026
- Well, coming up,
we'll chat with Kiaya
700
00:26:26,026 --> 00:26:28,129
about what she learned
from the "Teen Mom" moms.
701
00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:29,230
We'll be right back.
702
00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:32,233
[upbeat music]
703
00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:34,001
♪ ♪
704
00:26:35,569 --> 00:26:37,171
- I don't really
have friends at home.
705
00:26:37,171 --> 00:26:40,608
So, like, I don't really have
too many people to confide in.
706
00:26:40,608 --> 00:26:43,811
- Well, we love you,
just everything about you.
707
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:46,514
- Now you're trying
to out me right now.
708
00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:47,748
And there's so much [...]
that I could air about you,
709
00:26:47,748 --> 00:26:48,749
and that's pretty [...] up.
710
00:26:48,749 --> 00:26:50,117
- Go ahead.
711
00:26:50,117 --> 00:26:52,319
- OK.
- OK.
712
00:26:53,754 --> 00:26:56,757
[upbeat music]
713
00:26:56,757 --> 00:26:58,926
- We're back with
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
714
00:26:58,926 --> 00:26:59,927
The Aftermath."
715
00:26:59,927 --> 00:27:01,162
We're now speaking with Kiaya
716
00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:02,696
and her mom, Tiffany.
717
00:27:04,064 --> 00:27:05,766
Nice to see the both of you.
718
00:27:05,766 --> 00:27:07,268
- Thank you for having us.
- Of course.
719
00:27:07,268 --> 00:27:08,769
- We're so excited
to be here, always.
720
00:27:08,769 --> 00:27:10,971
- OK, so, Kiaya,
what did you expect
721
00:27:10,971 --> 00:27:12,740
before you came to
"Family Reunion,"
722
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:15,743
and how did it actually compare
to your experience?
723
00:27:15,743 --> 00:27:17,011
- Yeah, I don't know.
724
00:27:17,011 --> 00:27:18,412
I was just very optimistic
going into it.
725
00:27:18,412 --> 00:27:20,714
I was ready for anything.
I was hoping for the best.
726
00:27:20,714 --> 00:27:23,050
I learned a lot of--
not just about everybody else,
727
00:27:23,050 --> 00:27:24,552
but about myself too.
728
00:27:24,552 --> 00:27:26,854
- Ooh, what did you take
away about yourself?
729
00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:29,056
- I was afraid of being me.
730
00:27:29,056 --> 00:27:31,192
But when I got here,
and I was just--
731
00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:33,460
everybody was being
their authentic selves.
732
00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:35,663
So I had no choice
but to be my authentic self.
733
00:27:35,663 --> 00:27:36,797
[laughter]
734
00:27:36,797 --> 00:27:37,998
And it honestly kind of made me
735
00:27:37,998 --> 00:27:39,400
love myself a little bit more.
736
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,701
- Mm.
- I don't know.
737
00:27:40,701 --> 00:27:42,303
I just kind of felt mature,
you know?
738
00:27:42,303 --> 00:27:43,370
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
739
00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:44,738
- How about for you, Mom?
740
00:27:44,738 --> 00:27:47,975
How was it to see
your daughter being herself?
741
00:27:47,975 --> 00:27:49,810
- It was amazing,
but I looked at her like,
742
00:27:49,810 --> 00:27:52,012
I mean, you belong,
you know what I mean?
743
00:27:52,012 --> 00:27:53,881
Like, she definitely belonged.
744
00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:59,186
And I just love everyone just
treat her like, you know,
745
00:27:59,186 --> 00:28:01,388
a little sister,
and they give her advice,
746
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,023
and they want to see her win.
747
00:28:03,023 --> 00:28:05,826
Like, everyone wants
to see her win,
748
00:28:05,826 --> 00:28:07,628
and that is what I love,
like, yeah.
749
00:28:07,628 --> 00:28:09,163
- That's important.
- Mm-hmm.
750
00:28:09,163 --> 00:28:11,565
Now, Kiaya,
you were one of the moms
751
00:28:11,565 --> 00:28:13,467
that did not get COVID.
752
00:28:13,467 --> 00:28:14,969
- I'm a survivor, baby.
753
00:28:14,969 --> 00:28:16,537
[laughter]
754
00:28:16,537 --> 00:28:18,839
How was it for you to build
that bond with the other moms
755
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,174
who didn't have COVID?
756
00:28:20,174 --> 00:28:21,742
- Well, it was really--
it was really nice.
757
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:22,977
Like, I don't know.
758
00:28:22,977 --> 00:28:24,245
I kind of felt like
we were spending--
759
00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:25,813
we spent more time
with each other,
760
00:28:25,813 --> 00:28:27,948
so I felt like
we grew a tighter bond.
761
00:28:27,948 --> 00:28:29,650
And then being able
to meet Margaret,
762
00:28:29,650 --> 00:28:31,986
and Roxanne, and Christy and
just to see that everybody--
763
00:28:31,986 --> 00:28:33,187
- Wow.
764
00:28:33,187 --> 00:28:34,455
- Even the people
that are not here--
765
00:28:34,455 --> 00:28:35,556
are a reflection--
766
00:28:35,556 --> 00:28:36,824
- [laughs]
767
00:28:36,824 --> 00:28:39,059
- Of they mama,
and it was interesting.
768
00:28:39,059 --> 00:28:40,261
- I don't know if I want to be.
769
00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:43,030
[laughter]
770
00:28:43,030 --> 00:28:44,431
I don't know about that.
771
00:28:47,534 --> 00:28:49,837
- Some parts,
some parts, some parts.
772
00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:53,841
- I like the new generation.
773
00:28:53,841 --> 00:28:56,043
- Everyone's like,
wait, what, what?
774
00:28:56,043 --> 00:28:57,344
- And I mean that--
775
00:28:57,344 --> 00:28:58,779
- In the best way.
776
00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:01,682
- With you guys, I mean that
in the best way possible.
777
00:29:01,682 --> 00:29:02,916
- Got it.
778
00:29:02,916 --> 00:29:04,685
- You know us.
We're about to laugh.
779
00:29:04,685 --> 00:29:07,421
- Everybody's like
their mom's mini-me in a way.
780
00:29:07,421 --> 00:29:08,789
And it's just--I don't know.
781
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:11,725
It was really amazing
to just see everything.
782
00:29:11,725 --> 00:29:13,394
Like, I always felt like--
783
00:29:13,394 --> 00:29:14,862
like, I don't really
have friends at home.
784
00:29:14,862 --> 00:29:17,898
So, like, it bothers me
as a young adult.
785
00:29:17,898 --> 00:29:21,635
I feel like I don't really have
too many people to confide in,
786
00:29:21,635 --> 00:29:23,737
other than Teazha and my mom.
787
00:29:23,737 --> 00:29:26,073
So, like, growing up,
I always felt like
788
00:29:26,073 --> 00:29:28,409
I had to fight
for my acceptance,
789
00:29:28,409 --> 00:29:30,644
like I had to prove myself.
790
00:29:30,644 --> 00:29:32,813
And trust me, these are happy
tears and not sad tears.
791
00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,948
But it was just a relief--
792
00:29:34,948 --> 00:29:36,216
- Yeah.
793
00:29:36,216 --> 00:29:38,485
- To not have
to prove myself, you know?
794
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,687
I felt so accepted.
795
00:29:39,687 --> 00:29:40,754
- Yeah.
796
00:29:40,754 --> 00:29:42,256
- I don't know.
797
00:29:42,256 --> 00:29:43,991
I just--I wouldn't take it
back, and I'm very grateful.
798
00:29:43,991 --> 00:29:46,727
- We love you,
just everything about you.
799
00:29:46,727 --> 00:29:48,162
- Both of you.
800
00:29:48,162 --> 00:29:51,165
- Kiaya, you've--for
the time that I've known you,
801
00:29:51,165 --> 00:29:54,435
I feel like there's always
been this weight on you about--
802
00:29:54,435 --> 00:29:55,769
- Yeah.
803
00:29:55,769 --> 00:29:57,037
- Everything that happened
with your father--
804
00:29:57,037 --> 00:29:58,305
- Yeah.
- This guilt that you carried.
805
00:29:58,305 --> 00:29:59,773
Is there anything
that you discovered
806
00:29:59,773 --> 00:30:02,710
about yourself during this trip
807
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:05,846
when it comes
to healing and coping
808
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:07,948
with what you've been through?
809
00:30:07,948 --> 00:30:13,721
- It's tough because I feel
like no matter which way I try
810
00:30:13,721 --> 00:30:16,390
to deal with the situation,
it's just gonna be something
811
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:18,859
that is gonna defeat me.
812
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:20,227
I don't know.
813
00:30:20,227 --> 00:30:22,396
Like, I feel like,
if I don't get it together,
814
00:30:22,396 --> 00:30:25,632
it's gonna drive me
into a hole because, you know,
815
00:30:25,632 --> 00:30:27,935
most problems
that people have--
816
00:30:27,935 --> 00:30:31,071
like, other than, like, death--
you know, most problems,
817
00:30:31,071 --> 00:30:32,539
there is a solution.
818
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,508
But there's no
solution for this.
819
00:30:34,508 --> 00:30:37,344
You know, I won't get
my daddy back, period.
820
00:30:37,344 --> 00:30:39,279
I won't get the time back.
821
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,882
I feel like I ran out of time,
and it's not fair.
822
00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:43,951
- He's your angel, though.
- Yeah, he is.
823
00:30:43,951 --> 00:30:45,819
- Forever and forever will be.
824
00:30:45,819 --> 00:30:47,020
- All right.
825
00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:48,489
Thank you so much,
Kiaya and Tiffany,
826
00:30:48,489 --> 00:30:49,790
for being here today.
827
00:30:49,790 --> 00:30:52,126
After the break,
we'll talk to Kayla and Luke.
828
00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:53,494
Stick around.
829
00:30:53,494 --> 00:30:56,163
[upbeat music]
830
00:30:56,163 --> 00:30:59,299
Up next on "Teen Mom Family
Reunion: The Aftermath"...
831
00:30:59,299 --> 00:31:02,803
- He had called his mom
and stood his ground
832
00:31:02,803 --> 00:31:04,872
for the first time, which
I think was great for him.
833
00:31:04,872 --> 00:31:06,840
And then she disowned him.
834
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,309
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my gosh.
835
00:31:09,309 --> 00:31:10,644
- I don't know what's wrong.
- I got her.
836
00:31:10,644 --> 00:31:11,845
I got her.
- Breathe.
837
00:31:11,845 --> 00:31:13,147
We got you.
Breathe.
838
00:31:13,147 --> 00:31:14,348
- You guys, give her space.
- We got you.
839
00:31:14,348 --> 00:31:15,883
- Can we call a medic?
A medic.
840
00:31:15,883 --> 00:31:17,551
- Can we get someone here?
- Can we get a medic out here?
841
00:31:19,538 --> 00:31:23,241
[upbeat electronic music]
842
00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:25,110
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
843
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:26,111
The Aftermath."
844
00:31:26,111 --> 00:31:27,813
It's now time to talk to Kayla.
845
00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:29,281
- Hi.
846
00:31:29,281 --> 00:31:32,918
- Kayla, let's take a look back
at the conversation
847
00:31:32,918 --> 00:31:35,353
that Kayla had with Coach B.
848
00:31:35,353 --> 00:31:37,122
- What is your trust level like
849
00:31:37,122 --> 00:31:38,690
with your mom?
850
00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:42,694
- I don't think
it's really there.
851
00:31:42,694 --> 00:31:45,096
I don't really know if I can
depend on her to make, like,
852
00:31:45,096 --> 00:31:47,432
good decisions for herself.
853
00:31:47,432 --> 00:31:49,668
She struggles with,
like, severe anxiety,
854
00:31:49,668 --> 00:31:53,171
severe depression from, like,
her own abuse growing up.
855
00:31:53,171 --> 00:31:54,573
I remember when I
was really young
856
00:31:54,573 --> 00:31:55,974
and I didn't really
understand what's going on.
857
00:31:55,974 --> 00:31:57,442
She was in a very
abusive relationship,
858
00:31:57,442 --> 00:31:59,244
and the only way she felt
like she could get out of it
859
00:31:59,244 --> 00:32:02,047
was to check herself
into inpatient.
860
00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:03,515
I was scared.
861
00:32:03,515 --> 00:32:05,817
I didn't know if my mom
was gonna come back.
862
00:32:05,817 --> 00:32:08,820
I didn't know if she
was gonna kill herself.
863
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:09,821
- Why do you--
864
00:32:09,821 --> 00:32:12,190
- Because that's
why she went in.
865
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,930
- Now, in the series,
we did find out, you know,
866
00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:21,066
pretty intense stuff
about your mom's past.
867
00:32:21,066 --> 00:32:22,334
- Yes.
868
00:32:22,334 --> 00:32:24,870
- And she suffered abuse,
suicidal thoughts.
869
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:27,038
- Yes.
870
00:32:27,038 --> 00:32:31,109
- How hard was it for you
to see her share that?
871
00:32:31,109 --> 00:32:33,545
- Yeah, I mean,
something that she's
872
00:32:33,545 --> 00:32:35,313
kept private besides,
like, you know,
873
00:32:35,313 --> 00:32:37,182
me knowing and family.
874
00:32:37,182 --> 00:32:38,817
So I think that was
really hard for her
875
00:32:38,817 --> 00:32:40,185
to share with the world.
876
00:32:40,185 --> 00:32:41,887
But I was proud
of her for speaking her truth
877
00:32:41,887 --> 00:32:43,054
because then, you know,
878
00:32:43,054 --> 00:32:44,456
she could hopefully
heal from it.
879
00:32:44,456 --> 00:32:47,726
- Now, you and Luke got
into a big argument--
880
00:32:47,726 --> 00:32:49,361
- Yes, ma'am.
- Over the phone--
881
00:32:49,361 --> 00:32:50,662
- Yes, we did.
- On "Family Reunion."
882
00:32:50,662 --> 00:32:51,930
- Yes, we did.
883
00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:53,465
- Here's a look back
at the conversation
884
00:32:53,465 --> 00:32:56,001
that Kayla had
with Luke on the phone.
885
00:32:56,001 --> 00:32:57,469
- I don't give a [bleep]
about a bitch
886
00:32:57,469 --> 00:32:58,937
talking [bleep]
about me on social media.
887
00:32:58,937 --> 00:33:00,505
That's not what this is about.
888
00:33:00,505 --> 00:33:02,607
It's about the fact that she
knows what happens to Izaiah,
889
00:33:02,607 --> 00:33:04,542
and she's trying to [bleep]
cover that [bleep] up.
890
00:33:04,542 --> 00:33:06,478
And it's triggering
that all this is [bleep]
891
00:33:06,478 --> 00:33:07,979
happening when I'm not home.
892
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,416
- Check her!
[bleep] check her!
893
00:33:11,416 --> 00:33:13,718
[dramatic music]
894
00:33:13,718 --> 00:33:15,220
I'm so sick of this [bleep]!
895
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:17,188
It's my [bleep] kids!
896
00:33:17,188 --> 00:33:18,523
Don't [bleep] hang up on me!
897
00:33:18,523 --> 00:33:19,524
Please, please.
898
00:33:19,524 --> 00:33:20,926
I'm so sick of this [bleep]!
899
00:33:20,926 --> 00:33:22,794
It's my [bleep] kids!
900
00:33:22,794 --> 00:33:25,730
Don't [bleep] hang up on me,
you piece of [bleep].
901
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:28,733
[dramatic music]
902
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:30,402
♪ ♪
903
00:33:30,402 --> 00:33:32,103
- What was the end result
to that?
904
00:33:32,103 --> 00:33:35,807
- He had called his mom
and stood his ground
905
00:33:35,807 --> 00:33:38,009
for the first time, which
I think was great for him.
906
00:33:38,009 --> 00:33:39,544
- Like, what do you mean
stood his ground?
907
00:33:39,544 --> 00:33:40,578
Like, with her?
908
00:33:40,578 --> 00:33:42,914
- With her, yes,
expressed himself
909
00:33:42,914 --> 00:33:44,482
because something,
like, he struggles with,
910
00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:46,985
expressing himself
and standing up to her.
911
00:33:46,985 --> 00:33:50,155
And then she disowned him
and said she wanted nothing
912
00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:52,257
to do with him or the kids.
913
00:33:52,257 --> 00:33:55,293
- Now, Briana,
you had a big reaction to that.
914
00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:58,897
- I just don't
understand how someone
915
00:33:58,897 --> 00:34:00,932
can take it out on the kids.
916
00:34:00,932 --> 00:34:03,101
And even for him,
like, that's your son.
917
00:34:03,101 --> 00:34:05,337
Why the [bleep]
would you do that?
918
00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:07,272
So to me, it's shocking
because it's like--
919
00:34:07,272 --> 00:34:08,573
- Yeah.
920
00:34:08,573 --> 00:34:09,741
- Yeah, that's your son.
921
00:34:09,741 --> 00:34:11,142
Like, you need
to be there for him,
922
00:34:11,142 --> 00:34:15,013
and you need to be there
for his kid also, you know?
923
00:34:15,013 --> 00:34:16,514
So that's tough.
924
00:34:16,514 --> 00:34:19,951
- Before you bring
Luke out here, Kayla,
925
00:34:19,951 --> 00:34:21,586
are you and him
in a relationship?
926
00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:23,922
- No, we are not.
927
00:34:23,922 --> 00:34:26,091
He actually got an apartment
with his friend.
928
00:34:26,091 --> 00:34:27,392
So we are living separately.
929
00:34:27,392 --> 00:34:28,960
We're not in a relationship.
930
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,161
Yeah.
931
00:34:30,161 --> 00:34:32,931
- Any possibility
of that from your end?
932
00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:35,700
- I mean, I don't know
what the future holds.
933
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:38,937
But I think, like, our past
kind of caught up to us.
934
00:34:38,937 --> 00:34:40,672
- What do you mean by that?
935
00:34:40,672 --> 00:34:42,674
- Just all this stuff
we had went through
936
00:34:42,674 --> 00:34:44,509
during the four years
of our relationship.
937
00:34:44,509 --> 00:34:45,910
There's so much
that we have buried--
938
00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:47,379
- Sure.
939
00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:50,749
- That I just don't know
if we can ever really overcome.
940
00:34:50,749 --> 00:34:52,217
- Even with additional--
941
00:34:52,217 --> 00:34:53,284
- She's about ready
to pass out.
942
00:34:53,284 --> 00:34:54,486
Can someone get her?
943
00:34:54,486 --> 00:34:55,854
She's about ready to pass out.
- Oh.
944
00:34:55,854 --> 00:34:57,255
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
945
00:34:57,255 --> 00:34:58,523
- I don't know
what's wrong with her.
946
00:34:58,523 --> 00:34:59,524
- I got her.
- I got her.
947
00:34:59,524 --> 00:35:00,525
- Got her?
- Yep, yep.
948
00:35:00,525 --> 00:35:02,927
You're good.
You're good.
949
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,927
You're good.
You're good.
950
00:35:02,927 --> 00:35:04,095
- Breathe, breathe.
- Is Jade OK?
951
00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:04,963
- Breathe, breathe.
Just breathe.
952
00:35:04,963 --> 00:35:06,431
We got you.
Breathe.
953
00:35:06,431 --> 00:35:07,766
- Oh, I'm scared.
- You guys, give her space.
954
00:35:07,766 --> 00:35:08,833
- It's OK, we got you.
- Can we call a medic?
955
00:35:08,833 --> 00:35:10,435
A medic.
- Can we get someone?
956
00:35:10,435 --> 00:35:12,537
- Can we get a medic out here
if they're not already there?
957
00:35:12,537 --> 00:35:14,239
- There's a chair.
Get that chair right there.
958
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,306
- Calm down.
It's OK.
959
00:35:15,306 --> 00:35:16,307
- Sit here.
960
00:35:16,307 --> 00:35:18,977
- I can just--
961
00:35:18,977 --> 00:35:20,178
- All right, guys.
962
00:35:20,178 --> 00:35:21,846
Let's step back
for the medics here.
963
00:35:21,846 --> 00:35:23,681
- Give her space.
- Give her air.
964
00:35:23,681 --> 00:35:25,316
Give her air.
965
00:35:25,316 --> 00:35:28,153
- My chest is, like, hurt--
like, my chest actually hurts.
966
00:35:28,153 --> 00:35:29,821
[gasps]
967
00:35:29,821 --> 00:35:31,456
- Can you describe
the pain in your chest?
968
00:35:31,456 --> 00:35:32,590
- It hurts.
969
00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:33,825
Oh, stop.
970
00:35:33,825 --> 00:35:35,326
Don't touch me, please.
- Can I get--
971
00:35:35,326 --> 00:35:36,795
- There's Sean right here.
- She's shaking.
972
00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:38,196
- Can we clear the room?
973
00:35:38,196 --> 00:35:39,798
Can we get everyone to clear
out of the room, please?
974
00:35:39,798 --> 00:35:41,032
- Sorry.
975
00:35:41,032 --> 00:35:43,034
- Hey, can we get
some guys to get her...
976
00:35:43,034 --> 00:35:44,936
- I'm so scared.
977
00:35:44,936 --> 00:35:46,871
- Just focus on--
- I'm just scared.
978
00:35:46,871 --> 00:35:49,174
Oh, God, I'm so scared.
979
00:35:49,174 --> 00:35:51,276
- Don't be scared.
980
00:35:51,276 --> 00:35:54,512
- Oh, every time, I'm like, I'm
dying, I'm dying, I'm dying.
981
00:35:54,512 --> 00:35:55,880
I'm dead.
982
00:35:57,516 --> 00:35:58,817
- Oh, [bleep].
983
00:35:58,817 --> 00:36:00,085
- We're just gonna go
right through here.
984
00:36:00,085 --> 00:36:01,287
- Oh, feel like
I'm going to be sick.
985
00:36:01,287 --> 00:36:03,355
[tense music]
986
00:36:03,355 --> 00:36:05,190
Oh, [bleep].
987
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:09,161
♪ ♪
988
00:36:09,161 --> 00:36:11,931
[upbeat electronic music]
989
00:36:11,931 --> 00:36:14,500
- We're back, and Jade
is getting medical attention,
990
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,236
and we'll update you
as we get more information.
991
00:36:17,236 --> 00:36:19,238
We're gonna continue
with our show,
992
00:36:19,238 --> 00:36:21,340
and we invited Luke here
to give Kayla and Luke
993
00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:23,042
the opportunity
that they didn't get
994
00:36:23,042 --> 00:36:25,244
in Oregon to work
through some of their problems.
995
00:36:25,244 --> 00:36:27,680
So please welcome
Luke and Coach B.
996
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,014
[applause]
997
00:36:29,014 --> 00:36:31,150
♪ ♪
998
00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:32,918
- Hey, Luke.
999
00:36:32,918 --> 00:36:34,019
Hey, Coach B.
1000
00:36:34,019 --> 00:36:35,154
- Hello, hello.
- What's up?
1001
00:36:35,154 --> 00:36:36,755
Hey, how you doing?
How y'all doing?
1002
00:36:36,755 --> 00:36:37,957
How y'all doing?
1003
00:36:37,957 --> 00:36:39,191
- OK, so, Luke,
1004
00:36:39,191 --> 00:36:40,426
Kayla gave us some updates.
1005
00:36:40,426 --> 00:36:42,394
- Mm-hmm.
You two are no longer together?
1006
00:36:42,394 --> 00:36:44,163
- No, we're not.
- OK.
1007
00:36:44,163 --> 00:36:45,864
How do you feel about that?
1008
00:36:45,864 --> 00:36:47,499
- Wasn't my decision.
1009
00:36:47,499 --> 00:36:49,401
I'll say that, but, you know,
1010
00:36:49,401 --> 00:36:53,138
I got to respect it and keep on
living life, you know?
1011
00:36:53,138 --> 00:36:54,373
- Right.
1012
00:36:54,373 --> 00:36:55,975
Are you still
in love with Kayla?
1013
00:36:55,975 --> 00:36:58,644
- Very much.
1014
00:36:58,644 --> 00:37:01,113
- How does that make
you feel, Kayla?
1015
00:37:01,113 --> 00:37:03,148
- It's a hard situation.
1016
00:37:03,148 --> 00:37:04,450
You know,
I'm not gonna say, like,
1017
00:37:04,450 --> 00:37:06,685
there's no feelings there.
1018
00:37:06,685 --> 00:37:10,889
But I do feel like our past
just really caught up to us.
1019
00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:13,092
- Kayla,
what was that last straw?
1020
00:37:13,092 --> 00:37:15,094
Take me to your mindset.
1021
00:37:15,094 --> 00:37:17,029
- I think just, like,
my self-reflection.
1022
00:37:17,029 --> 00:37:19,398
Like, I didn't like
the person I became--
1023
00:37:19,398 --> 00:37:21,967
- Mm.
- Throughout the relationship.
1024
00:37:21,967 --> 00:37:24,036
Like, he became better,
and I became worse.
1025
00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:25,738
It's just, like, ironic
because I feel like me,
1026
00:37:25,738 --> 00:37:26,939
like, building him up,
1027
00:37:26,939 --> 00:37:28,674
I was tearing myself down
at the same time.
1028
00:37:28,674 --> 00:37:33,512
- Where do you think
you fell short at with her?
1029
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,014
- I don't know.
1030
00:37:35,014 --> 00:37:37,883
- Kayla, can you enlighten him
on where he fell short?
1031
00:37:37,883 --> 00:37:41,253
- I would say
really the cheating
1032
00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:44,289
throughout, like, the pregnancy
and after the pregnancy.
1033
00:37:44,289 --> 00:37:45,791
And it wasn't
just one incident.
1034
00:37:45,791 --> 00:37:47,226
It was multiple.
1035
00:37:47,226 --> 00:37:50,829
So I don't think
he was in love with me
1036
00:37:50,829 --> 00:37:53,665
when I was in love with him,
and then it's like--
1037
00:37:53,665 --> 00:37:58,037
it took me, like, stepping out
on him for him to, like,
1038
00:37:58,037 --> 00:37:59,104
develop those feelings.
1039
00:37:59,104 --> 00:38:00,305
- Did you hear what you said?
1040
00:38:00,305 --> 00:38:02,474
It took you
to match his toxicity--
1041
00:38:02,474 --> 00:38:03,876
- Yeah.
1042
00:38:03,876 --> 00:38:06,111
- And match his dysfunction
for him to wake up.
1043
00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:08,414
I want to ask--
and you may not listen,
1044
00:38:08,414 --> 00:38:11,450
but I want to ask that you
stop pursuing her and any woman
1045
00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:13,085
until you pursue yourself.
1046
00:38:13,085 --> 00:38:16,355
- I'm good on any type
of relationship right now.
1047
00:38:16,355 --> 00:38:17,623
- Mm-hmm.
1048
00:38:17,623 --> 00:38:18,924
- Like, I've learned
I'm not good at it.
1049
00:38:18,924 --> 00:38:20,125
So I feel like--
1050
00:38:20,125 --> 00:38:21,260
- Can you commit to that?
1051
00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:22,494
- Oh, definitely.
1052
00:38:22,494 --> 00:38:23,595
- Kayla.
1053
00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:24,696
- Yes, ma'am?
1054
00:38:24,696 --> 00:38:26,365
- Tell me where you are.
1055
00:38:26,365 --> 00:38:28,300
There's a new relationship
or something going?
1056
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,369
- No, I'm not.
I'm not in a relationship.
1057
00:38:30,369 --> 00:38:32,971
- OK, so you're not--oh, OK.
1058
00:38:32,971 --> 00:38:34,773
Well--
- Please tell the truth, Kayla.
1059
00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:36,475
- I'm not in a relationship.
1060
00:38:36,475 --> 00:38:38,410
I am seeing somebody,
1061
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:40,145
but, like, it's new,
you know what I mean?
1062
00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:41,980
Just feeling it out.
1063
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:44,550
- The only thing
that I was not OK with
1064
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:46,652
is how early she brought
the kids around him.
1065
00:38:46,652 --> 00:38:49,321
- No, no, no, no, no.
- Tell the truth.
1066
00:38:49,321 --> 00:38:51,457
- He helped me move
a piece of furniture.
1067
00:38:51,457 --> 00:38:53,959
- She had a friend--
the guy--help her move the bed.
1068
00:38:53,959 --> 00:38:57,229
And I was just upset because
the children were present.
1069
00:38:57,229 --> 00:38:58,497
That was my only problem.
1070
00:38:58,497 --> 00:38:59,932
- Now you're trying
to out me right now,
1071
00:38:59,932 --> 00:39:01,400
and there's so much [bleep]
I could air about you,
1072
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,634
and that's pretty
[bleep] up.
1073
00:39:02,634 --> 00:39:04,770
- Go ahead.
1074
00:39:04,770 --> 00:39:06,071
- Kayla,
you're getting emotional.
1075
00:39:06,071 --> 00:39:07,506
What's going on?
1076
00:39:07,506 --> 00:39:08,907
- Because I feel like
he always wants to paint me
1077
00:39:08,907 --> 00:39:10,609
as this bad person.
1078
00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:11,977
And it's so
[bleep] frustrating.
1079
00:39:11,977 --> 00:39:13,545
His family does it.
He does it.
1080
00:39:13,545 --> 00:39:14,546
And I feel like
I don't be doing
1081
00:39:14,546 --> 00:39:15,981
[bleep] wrong to this man.
1082
00:39:15,981 --> 00:39:17,149
- The family I don't talk to--
- I have helped him.
1083
00:39:17,149 --> 00:39:18,383
- Because I stood up
for our child?
1084
00:39:18,383 --> 00:39:19,585
- I've helped him so much--
- Our son?
1085
00:39:19,585 --> 00:39:22,221
- And all he does
is tear me down.
1086
00:39:22,221 --> 00:39:23,489
- This is the last thing
I wanted to do
1087
00:39:23,489 --> 00:39:24,923
was the fighting
and arguing because after--
1088
00:39:24,923 --> 00:39:26,291
- No, it's just funny--
- This, we got to go home.
1089
00:39:26,291 --> 00:39:27,893
- Because before we came here,
he's like,
1090
00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:29,761
"I'm not gonna fight with you.
I'm not gonna do any of that.
1091
00:39:29,761 --> 00:39:31,530
Don't air out my business.
I'm not gonna try to."
1092
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:32,698
Because I told him, I'm like,
1093
00:39:32,698 --> 00:39:34,166
"I feel like you're
gonna get up here
1094
00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:35,968
and try to twist the situation
into something it's not."
1095
00:39:35,968 --> 00:39:37,035
He's like,
"No, I would never do that.
1096
00:39:37,035 --> 00:39:38,103
I would never do that."
1097
00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:39,671
But you're doing that.
- OK.
1098
00:39:39,671 --> 00:39:41,373
- I feel like he's
always trying to paint himself
1099
00:39:41,373 --> 00:39:43,742
as the victim, always.
1100
00:39:43,742 --> 00:39:46,211
- I don't want to cause any
problems because the last thing
1101
00:39:46,211 --> 00:39:48,514
that I want--that's
the last thing that I want
1102
00:39:48,514 --> 00:39:50,182
because my kids
are my everything.
1103
00:39:50,182 --> 00:39:52,951
And, like, she knows that.
1104
00:39:52,951 --> 00:39:55,254
Like, I don't want
our relationship to be
1105
00:39:55,254 --> 00:39:58,223
any more difficult
than what it was.
1106
00:39:58,223 --> 00:40:00,792
And I just want to keep being
able to see them when I can
1107
00:40:00,792 --> 00:40:02,528
or when I--
1108
00:40:02,528 --> 00:40:05,130
like, what we got going now
is perfectly fine with me.
1109
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:07,299
And I just didn't want
to come up here and ruin that.
1110
00:40:07,299 --> 00:40:11,203
And I wasn't trying
to air anything out.
1111
00:40:11,203 --> 00:40:13,205
Like, I truly am sorry.
1112
00:40:13,205 --> 00:40:14,473
Like, I didn't--
1113
00:40:14,473 --> 00:40:16,975
that wasn't my intention,
and you know that.
1114
00:40:16,975 --> 00:40:19,178
- Understand that you're
parents at the end of the day.
1115
00:40:19,178 --> 00:40:21,513
And it's really not
about airing each other out.
1116
00:40:21,513 --> 00:40:23,815
It's about having
a real conversation.
1117
00:40:23,815 --> 00:40:25,918
If you can't be transparent,
and you can't be honest,
1118
00:40:25,918 --> 00:40:27,252
you can't heal a lie,
1119
00:40:27,252 --> 00:40:28,754
you'll just be stuck
in dysfunction.
1120
00:40:28,754 --> 00:40:32,824
Healing takes place
when truth is brought forward.
1121
00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:33,926
OK.
1122
00:40:33,926 --> 00:40:35,160
- Well, thank you
so much, Kayla.
1123
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,495
Thank you, Luke,
for being out here.
1124
00:40:36,495 --> 00:40:38,197
Really appreciate it.
1125
00:40:38,197 --> 00:40:40,265
And that does it for
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
1126
00:40:40,265 --> 00:40:41,600
The Aftermath."
1127
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,535
Thank you so much to the moms,
the grandmas,
1128
00:40:43,535 --> 00:40:45,971
the dads, Coach B,
and everyone who made
1129
00:40:45,971 --> 00:40:47,940
this "Family Reunion"
so special.
1130
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:49,908
I'm Nessa,
and I'll see you next time.
1131
00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:52,911
[cheers and applause]
1132
00:40:52,911 --> 00:40:55,380
♪ ♪
1133
00:41:01,353 --> 00:41:04,356
[soft music]
1134
00:41:04,356 --> 00:41:11,396
♪ ♪