1 00:00:00,967 --> 00:00:02,969 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:02,969 --> 00:00:06,339 - Last time on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: Aftermath"... 3 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:08,041 - It was crazy. I had to sweep the whole house. 4 00:00:08,041 --> 00:00:09,609 I'm like, what the [bleep]? - I come in there. 5 00:00:09,609 --> 00:00:11,244 He's like, are you guys all animals? 6 00:00:11,244 --> 00:00:13,546 [laughter] 7 00:00:13,546 --> 00:00:15,315 - Well, we were together when he committed suicide. 8 00:00:15,315 --> 00:00:16,983 I mean, it really took it out of me, you know? 9 00:00:16,983 --> 00:00:19,619 I was 20 or 21. 10 00:00:19,619 --> 00:00:21,688 - Are you gonna say excuse me? 11 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:23,390 - That looked like a bump to me. 12 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:25,625 - Bumped or not, you don't spit. 13 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:27,694 - I'm not doing this. I'm not feeding this bitch. 14 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:29,996 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 15 00:00:29,996 --> 00:00:32,232 - Ryan, what is your vision 16 00:00:32,232 --> 00:00:35,769 for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci? 17 00:00:35,769 --> 00:00:39,239 - I'd just like to be able to see him, really. 18 00:00:39,239 --> 00:00:41,474 Hell, I just miss him. 19 00:00:41,474 --> 00:00:43,243 - ♪ We run together ♪ 20 00:00:43,243 --> 00:00:46,112 ♪ They're my family ♪ 21 00:00:46,112 --> 00:00:49,282 - Do you believe you're in a place to commit 22 00:00:49,282 --> 00:00:51,818 to being more consistent? 23 00:00:51,818 --> 00:00:54,721 - Yeah, if I don't have to deal with everything else 24 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:57,157 that I've had to in the past. 25 00:00:57,157 --> 00:00:58,725 - What's the everything else? 26 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:01,161 - Just everyone else in the way. 27 00:01:01,161 --> 00:01:02,295 - OK. 28 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:04,664 Maci, what was going on with you 29 00:01:04,664 --> 00:01:07,434 when you were hearing all of that? 30 00:01:09,035 --> 00:01:11,104 - I just looked at him, and I could see the pain. 31 00:01:11,104 --> 00:01:14,307 And honestly, I felt like I was staring at Bentley. 32 00:01:15,442 --> 00:01:18,745 I feel-- it's obviously bittersweet. 33 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:23,683 But I really appreciate the vulnerability, 34 00:01:23,683 --> 00:01:25,585 and the ownership, 35 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:28,721 and where he maybe kind of came up short 36 00:01:28,721 --> 00:01:33,359 or something that he could have done differently. 37 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:37,464 And then everything he was committing to 38 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:40,700 just felt like, little by little, a breath of fresh air 39 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:45,305 because it would absolutely make 40 00:01:45,305 --> 00:01:48,475 Bentley's heart so whole 41 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:52,912 because, Ryan, there's a part of Bentley that is hurting. 42 00:01:52,912 --> 00:01:56,049 But he loves you so much. 43 00:01:56,049 --> 00:02:01,087 And there is only one person that can help that hurt. 44 00:02:01,087 --> 00:02:02,622 And it's you. 45 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:07,794 He wants a relationship with you more than anything else. 46 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:12,365 - Ryan, can you commit to be consistent? 47 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:16,469 - I mean, I don't-- 48 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:19,339 hell, I don't even know what he's got going on anymore. 49 00:02:19,339 --> 00:02:20,974 I don't think Bentley and I even have 50 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:22,909 a real relationship anymore. 51 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:25,245 But, I mean, if it's picking him up 52 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:27,847 at a certain time or whatever. 53 00:02:27,847 --> 00:02:30,617 - Can you commit to FaceTiming him once a week 54 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:32,385 just to check in and say, "Hey, bud"? 55 00:02:32,385 --> 00:02:35,488 - Yeah, if he wants that. - Mm-hmm. 56 00:02:35,488 --> 00:02:37,790 Well, you're his daddy. He wants it all. 57 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:39,392 He wants all the smoke, trust me. 58 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:40,693 He wants all the smoke. 59 00:02:40,693 --> 00:02:43,263 [laughs] OK? 60 00:02:43,263 --> 00:02:45,465 Maci, what do you think you can do to help 61 00:02:45,465 --> 00:02:50,236 this co-parenting relationship become healthy? 62 00:02:50,236 --> 00:02:54,007 - I think, obviously, one of them is making sure that 63 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:57,176 I'm keeping Ryan all the way in the loop 64 00:02:57,176 --> 00:02:59,846 as it pertains to anything Bentley has going on 65 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:03,650 so that he has the option to support him and be there. 66 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:07,887 And I think, just from our previous attempts 67 00:03:07,887 --> 00:03:10,757 at co-parenting, one of the things 68 00:03:10,757 --> 00:03:14,193 that really always kind of ended it 69 00:03:14,193 --> 00:03:16,696 before it could really start was, 70 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:20,166 we had trouble communicating with each other respectfully. 71 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:21,568 - No, I agree. 72 00:03:21,568 --> 00:03:24,771 I mean, I've said some things that were hateful. 73 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:27,040 - Yeah, did you want to apologize 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,274 about the things that were hateful? 75 00:03:28,274 --> 00:03:29,275 You don't have to name them. 76 00:03:29,275 --> 00:03:30,510 - Well, yeah, for sure, 77 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:33,580 because I wasn't appreciating it, you know. 78 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:35,148 So yes, I'm sorry for that. 79 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:37,083 - Thank you. 80 00:03:38,418 --> 00:03:40,587 I've said many things to you that were hurtful, 81 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:46,426 and disrespectful, and just with blatant lack 82 00:03:46,426 --> 00:03:49,429 of regard for your feelings. 83 00:03:49,429 --> 00:03:55,435 And I also want to apologize for not putting in more 84 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:58,805 of an effort to understand the battles you were fighting 85 00:03:58,805 --> 00:04:00,673 and the struggles you were going through. 86 00:04:00,673 --> 00:04:02,842 - That's so good. 87 00:04:02,842 --> 00:04:08,047 - I should have treated you more like a human being. 88 00:04:08,047 --> 00:04:12,151 And if I could go back and do it different, 89 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:13,553 I definitely would. 90 00:04:13,553 --> 00:04:17,824 But I'm gonna do it different moving forward. 91 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:20,159 And I'm sorry. 92 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:23,429 There is one thing. 93 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:25,298 - Wait, so I'm gonna-- is it OK if I'm gonna 94 00:04:25,298 --> 00:04:26,299 come back over here? 95 00:04:26,299 --> 00:04:27,433 - Yeah. - OK? 96 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:30,436 Because I think this was so good. 97 00:04:32,071 --> 00:04:33,940 Anything that we left out? 98 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:35,942 - Well, one thing I was thinking-- 99 00:04:35,942 --> 00:04:41,814 I would like to try our best 100 00:04:41,814 --> 00:04:45,918 to do this co-parenting 101 00:04:45,918 --> 00:04:49,022 just between the two of us and then, 102 00:04:49,022 --> 00:04:52,925 as we feel comfortable or confident 103 00:04:52,925 --> 00:04:58,798 in bringing others into it, if that's OK. 104 00:04:58,798 --> 00:04:59,966 - Yeah. 105 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:01,200 - I'm so proud of you both. 106 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,136 I'm so, so, so, so proud of you both. 107 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,504 Thank you. - Thank you. 108 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:07,940 - Yeah, well, let's bring Jen back out here. 109 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:09,308 [applause] 110 00:05:09,308 --> 00:05:12,011 [soft music] 111 00:05:12,011 --> 00:05:14,213 - Look at that smile. 112 00:05:14,213 --> 00:05:15,915 - Oh. 113 00:05:15,915 --> 00:05:19,485 ♪ ♪ 114 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:21,654 - Yeah, yeah. - Mm. 115 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:22,855 - I love you. 116 00:05:22,855 --> 00:05:24,557 - I can't with this. 117 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:30,396 ♪ ♪ 118 00:05:30,396 --> 00:05:31,431 Oh, man. 119 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:33,032 This is emotional. 120 00:05:33,032 --> 00:05:35,902 How did you feel watching Ryan open up the way he did? 121 00:05:35,902 --> 00:05:38,604 - I'm very happy that he did because he's not one 122 00:05:38,604 --> 00:05:40,440 to show a lot of emotion. 123 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,375 I'm very, very proud of him. 124 00:05:42,375 --> 00:05:44,177 - Me too. 125 00:05:44,177 --> 00:05:46,879 - He has the best heart. 126 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:48,981 He has a heart like Bentley. 127 00:05:48,981 --> 00:05:51,050 He just doesn't always show it. 128 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:56,823 - You've been the co-parent grandma bear the whole time. 129 00:05:56,823 --> 00:05:58,925 - Mm-hmm. 130 00:05:58,925 --> 00:06:01,094 - What do you think could be added? 131 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:04,030 - I would love to step back, 132 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:06,866 and I would love for the two of them to talk 133 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:10,336 and work things out co-parenting. 134 00:06:10,336 --> 00:06:12,472 I know Ryan needs that. 135 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:18,111 He needs to feel like he is special in Bentley's life 136 00:06:18,111 --> 00:06:20,179 as his dad. 137 00:06:20,179 --> 00:06:22,348 - Yeah. 138 00:06:22,348 --> 00:06:25,752 - I mean, I'd just like to spend time with him one on one 139 00:06:25,752 --> 00:06:28,321 without having to go to Mom's house. 140 00:06:28,321 --> 00:06:30,656 - Bentley would love that 141 00:06:30,656 --> 00:06:33,659 and being able to do stuff just you and him. 142 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:37,130 - Jen, did you think we would ever see this day? 143 00:06:37,130 --> 00:06:38,965 - Oh, I knew it was possible. 144 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:40,433 I just didn't know when. 145 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:42,535 - I'm so happy for everyone right now. 146 00:06:42,535 --> 00:06:45,304 Coach B, thank you for helping them get to a place 147 00:06:45,304 --> 00:06:46,873 that they wanted to get to. 148 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:48,875 - Yeah. - Amazing. 149 00:06:48,875 --> 00:06:51,811 It's Ashley's turn on the couch up next. 150 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:53,446 - You guys! 151 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:56,449 [upbeat rock music] 152 00:06:56,449 --> 00:07:00,653 ♪ ♪ 153 00:07:00,653 --> 00:07:03,589 - Tonight, on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 154 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:05,458 - Everybody is like their mom's mini-me. 155 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:06,659 - Agh! - April-- 156 00:07:06,659 --> 00:07:08,961 - I mean that in the best way possible. 157 00:07:08,961 --> 00:07:09,962 [laughter] 158 00:07:09,962 --> 00:07:11,164 - I don't like her. 159 00:07:11,164 --> 00:07:12,732 I don't like anything about that bitch. 160 00:07:12,732 --> 00:07:15,835 - I guess I could have took the high road and walked away, 161 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:17,170 but I'm not Michelle Obama. 162 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:18,704 I'm Tea. 163 00:07:18,704 --> 00:07:20,373 - She's about ready to pass out. 164 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:22,675 - Can we get a medic out here? - What's wrong? 165 00:07:22,675 --> 00:07:24,644 - Can we call a medic? A medic. 166 00:07:26,221 --> 00:07:29,257 [upbeat electronic music] 167 00:07:29,257 --> 00:07:31,259 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 168 00:07:31,259 --> 00:07:32,293 The Aftermath." 169 00:07:32,293 --> 00:07:33,761 I'm now here with Ashley, 170 00:07:33,761 --> 00:07:35,530 her mother, Tea, and Coach B. 171 00:07:35,530 --> 00:07:38,032 [applause] 172 00:07:38,032 --> 00:07:42,036 First of all, Ashley, I want to just ask you, 173 00:07:42,036 --> 00:07:45,507 how have you--how's everything been going as far as, like, 174 00:07:45,507 --> 00:07:47,408 with your pregnancy and all that stuff? 175 00:07:47,408 --> 00:07:49,911 How are you, before we dig into anything. 176 00:07:49,911 --> 00:07:51,179 - I'm OK. 177 00:07:51,179 --> 00:07:53,414 I'm sad to say 178 00:07:53,414 --> 00:07:55,583 we actually had a miscarriage. 179 00:07:55,583 --> 00:07:57,485 So there's-- - Wait. 180 00:07:57,485 --> 00:07:58,653 - Not-- - You had a miscarriage? 181 00:07:58,653 --> 00:08:00,688 - Yeah, so we won't be-- - I'm sorry. 182 00:08:00,688 --> 00:08:03,224 - Having a little one, but I am-- 183 00:08:03,224 --> 00:08:04,292 - Oh, I'm so sorry. 184 00:08:04,292 --> 00:08:06,394 - Thank you, Nessa. 185 00:08:06,394 --> 00:08:08,530 - How are you feeling about that, though? 186 00:08:08,530 --> 00:08:10,231 Because that's a lot to carry. 187 00:08:10,231 --> 00:08:11,399 - I don't know. 188 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,735 I'm still kind of, like, you know, 189 00:08:13,735 --> 00:08:16,271 trying to get back to myself. 190 00:08:16,271 --> 00:08:17,939 - Are you getting help for that, though, 191 00:08:17,939 --> 00:08:19,674 Ashley, as far as, like, the grieving 192 00:08:19,674 --> 00:08:21,242 of the miscarriage? 193 00:08:21,242 --> 00:08:22,944 Because that's not something easy to experience 194 00:08:22,944 --> 00:08:24,646 nor something that goes away like that. 195 00:08:24,646 --> 00:08:26,447 - I know I should be. 196 00:08:26,447 --> 00:08:30,285 But I am the kind of person that just kind of, like, 197 00:08:30,285 --> 00:08:32,253 steamrolls over things. 198 00:08:32,253 --> 00:08:34,923 I think we all know this. 199 00:08:34,923 --> 00:08:37,292 I'm not a "sit in your emotions and dissect them" 200 00:08:37,292 --> 00:08:38,326 type of person. 201 00:08:38,326 --> 00:08:39,761 - But I do want you to get help 202 00:08:39,761 --> 00:08:43,131 with grieving of the miscarriage. 203 00:08:43,131 --> 00:08:45,433 Even your emotions that you suppressed when Bar 204 00:08:45,433 --> 00:08:47,335 was in jail and you were pregnant, 205 00:08:47,335 --> 00:08:50,138 you need to be able to have a place that's safe 206 00:08:50,138 --> 00:08:53,708 that you can unload and then get in contact 207 00:08:53,708 --> 00:08:56,044 with what you're feeling and where to put those emotions. 208 00:08:56,044 --> 00:08:57,478 - Yeah. 209 00:08:57,478 --> 00:08:59,314 - Can you commit to at least attempting to do that? 210 00:08:59,314 --> 00:09:00,715 - Yeah. - OK. 211 00:09:00,715 --> 00:09:03,151 - I can. - Tea, hold her accountable. 212 00:09:03,151 --> 00:09:04,319 - OK, I will. 213 00:09:04,319 --> 00:09:05,453 [laughter] 214 00:09:05,453 --> 00:09:06,754 I will. 215 00:09:06,754 --> 00:09:09,157 - From my understanding, in order for you guys 216 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:10,858 to come out here, there was an agreement 217 00:09:10,858 --> 00:09:13,928 that you just didn't want to be on stage with the other moms. 218 00:09:13,928 --> 00:09:17,865 - I just didn't want to be blindsided 219 00:09:17,865 --> 00:09:19,434 by no bull[bleep]. 220 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:24,639 I just feel like sometimes things are made up or gassed up 221 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:26,307 so there appears to be, like, 222 00:09:26,307 --> 00:09:28,576 a problem when really, there's not. 223 00:09:28,576 --> 00:09:30,278 - The fight did happen. 224 00:09:30,278 --> 00:09:33,548 So where are you with that at this point? 225 00:09:33,548 --> 00:09:34,749 - Oh, I'm over it. 226 00:09:34,749 --> 00:09:36,317 I was over it as soon as I left Oregon, 227 00:09:36,317 --> 00:09:38,152 really, to be honest. 228 00:09:38,152 --> 00:09:39,187 Yeah. 229 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:41,356 - Tea, how about for you? 230 00:09:41,356 --> 00:09:43,758 - I'm traumatized. 231 00:09:43,758 --> 00:09:47,261 I went into an environment, like, open, 232 00:09:47,261 --> 00:09:49,964 not really understanding all the dynamics. 233 00:09:49,964 --> 00:09:53,134 For me, this was like I had told April. 234 00:09:53,134 --> 00:09:56,104 You know, I was expecting to glean a lot from the mothers 235 00:09:56,104 --> 00:09:59,874 that were there, so I was kind of just, like, 236 00:09:59,874 --> 00:10:01,542 sitting back, trying to observe. 237 00:10:01,542 --> 00:10:02,910 I'm the new one in the group. 238 00:10:02,910 --> 00:10:05,079 So that's where I was with it. 239 00:10:05,079 --> 00:10:07,382 - What happened to cause all of this? 240 00:10:07,382 --> 00:10:09,717 What is the root of the issue? 241 00:10:09,717 --> 00:10:12,687 - There was just too much disrespect taking place. 242 00:10:12,687 --> 00:10:14,422 And I just didn't understand why 243 00:10:14,422 --> 00:10:17,692 it was all of a sudden turned on that night, 244 00:10:17,692 --> 00:10:22,130 after we had had that long, drawn emotional day 245 00:10:22,130 --> 00:10:24,198 in the mud with Coach B. 246 00:10:24,198 --> 00:10:26,267 Everything was OK. Everybody did their thing. 247 00:10:26,267 --> 00:10:27,835 Then, boom, all of a sudden, at dinner, 248 00:10:27,835 --> 00:10:29,303 there's a problem to be served. 249 00:10:29,303 --> 00:10:31,673 - Now, obviously, the fight that happened 250 00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:34,242 is a big part of this season. 251 00:10:34,242 --> 00:10:37,311 There is a clip. Do you want to see it? 252 00:10:37,311 --> 00:10:40,248 - Yeah, I don't-- that [bleep] was a blur. 253 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,784 - Tea, you OK to watch it? 254 00:10:42,784 --> 00:10:44,352 Let's go ahead and roll it. 255 00:10:44,352 --> 00:10:47,822 [tense music] 256 00:10:47,822 --> 00:10:49,524 - What's the problem, Roxanne? 257 00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:52,226 - The problem is that your daughter 258 00:10:52,226 --> 00:10:53,861 inserted herself in a situation that she-- 259 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:55,063 - OK, no, listen. 260 00:10:55,063 --> 00:10:56,431 - Had no business inserting herself in. 261 00:10:56,431 --> 00:10:58,800 No, my daughter would never talk to any mother 262 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,136 in this [bleep] table the way your daughter speaks to me. 263 00:11:02,136 --> 00:11:03,905 - Well, Roxanne-- - I don't want to hear it. 264 00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:05,840 You have nothing to say to me, Tea. 265 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,542 - I don't give a [bleep], bitch! 266 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:09,844 - Hold on. - I don't give a [bleep]! 267 00:11:09,844 --> 00:11:11,345 - No, you-- - I don't give a [bleep]! 268 00:11:11,345 --> 00:11:13,147 I don't give a [bleep]! 269 00:11:13,147 --> 00:11:15,216 ♪ ♪ 270 00:11:15,216 --> 00:11:16,350 - Are you gonna say excuse me? 271 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:18,286 - Stop. Stop being so dramatic. 272 00:11:18,286 --> 00:11:20,488 - You bump me, I'ma grab your mother[bleep] ass. 273 00:11:20,488 --> 00:11:21,489 - Hey, hey, hey. Come on. 274 00:11:21,489 --> 00:11:22,790 - I didn't bump you. 275 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,192 - You did. - No. 276 00:11:24,192 --> 00:11:25,493 - You did, [bleep]. 277 00:11:25,493 --> 00:11:26,894 - You're not your mother. You don't know. 278 00:11:26,894 --> 00:11:28,229 - No-- - [bleep]. 279 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:29,664 - Because if y'all want to go, we really can. 280 00:11:29,664 --> 00:11:31,032 We really can. - Let's go. 281 00:11:31,032 --> 00:11:32,100 - Well, then, we can. Let's go. 282 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:33,301 - We really can. 283 00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:34,602 - Let's go because they don't want that. 284 00:11:34,602 --> 00:11:35,603 Let's go. - We really can. 285 00:11:35,603 --> 00:11:37,105 - Come on. We have to go. 286 00:11:37,105 --> 00:11:38,206 - Why are you up there? 287 00:11:38,206 --> 00:11:40,441 Get down, baby. Get down. 288 00:11:40,441 --> 00:11:42,543 - No, so I could kick you in your [bleep] throat. 289 00:11:42,543 --> 00:11:43,845 - 'Cause you can't fight? - No. 290 00:11:43,845 --> 00:11:45,079 [bleep] you, bitch. - 'Cause you can't fight? 291 00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:46,080 - [bleep] you. - Get down. 292 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,082 - [bleep] my [bleep], Ash. 293 00:11:48,082 --> 00:11:50,351 [dramatic music] 294 00:11:50,351 --> 00:11:51,486 - Bitch! 295 00:11:51,486 --> 00:11:52,987 [all yelling] 296 00:11:52,987 --> 00:11:55,623 - Come on, bitch. Come on, bitch. 297 00:11:55,623 --> 00:11:57,525 Come on, bitch! - [bleep] you! 298 00:11:57,525 --> 00:11:59,327 - Oh, you want to go? 299 00:11:59,327 --> 00:12:00,862 You want to go, bitch? 300 00:12:00,862 --> 00:12:03,030 - [bleep] you. - [bleep] you. 301 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:06,434 - [sighs] 302 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:07,902 - What are you thinking and feeling 303 00:12:07,902 --> 00:12:10,438 when you're watching that? 304 00:12:10,438 --> 00:12:11,806 - I'm not bothered, you know? 305 00:12:11,806 --> 00:12:15,777 I think--is that the person that I want to be? 306 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,078 Absolutely not. 307 00:12:17,078 --> 00:12:18,846 It's not a lot of people that can tell you 308 00:12:18,846 --> 00:12:20,348 them type of stories about me. 309 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:23,584 So when I get out of character, 310 00:12:23,584 --> 00:12:25,586 trust me, it's for a reason. 311 00:12:25,586 --> 00:12:30,992 And how I feel is Roxy and my mom went back and forth. 312 00:12:30,992 --> 00:12:33,294 I didn't--more than once. 313 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:34,529 I didn't get in it 314 00:12:34,529 --> 00:12:37,198 because I would never try to go for Roxy. 315 00:12:37,198 --> 00:12:39,567 She's not my equal. 316 00:12:39,567 --> 00:12:43,004 As soon as Briana started trying to check my mom, 317 00:12:43,004 --> 00:12:44,639 that was not right to me. 318 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,707 And that put me in a protective mode. 319 00:12:46,707 --> 00:12:48,709 Like, as you can see, I was like, hey, 320 00:12:48,709 --> 00:12:49,944 we ain't gonna do all that. 321 00:12:49,944 --> 00:12:51,145 We ain't gonna do all that. 322 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:53,214 But why are you sitting right behind me, 323 00:12:53,214 --> 00:12:54,582 talking, talking, talking, 324 00:12:54,582 --> 00:12:56,384 and your mama talking, talking, talking? 325 00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:58,853 It's making me think that we about to get to thumpin'. 326 00:12:58,853 --> 00:13:01,956 So Roxy had already grabbed the chair. 327 00:13:01,956 --> 00:13:03,457 She'd already been yelling, already-- 328 00:13:03,457 --> 00:13:04,792 now you bumping. 329 00:13:04,792 --> 00:13:06,761 Like, how much further are you guys gonna go? 330 00:13:06,761 --> 00:13:08,930 - And, Tea, I was watching you. 331 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:12,166 You looked like you were revisiting, like, the anger 332 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:13,768 that you were feeling there. 333 00:13:13,768 --> 00:13:17,672 - I was appalled, first of all, 334 00:13:17,672 --> 00:13:21,242 to have a day with you 335 00:13:21,242 --> 00:13:25,146 and to be in that mode of healing... 336 00:13:25,146 --> 00:13:26,414 - Right. 337 00:13:26,414 --> 00:13:28,616 - And to be expressing that at the table 338 00:13:28,616 --> 00:13:34,522 and to be sabotaged, where I was speaking healing, 339 00:13:34,522 --> 00:13:39,961 and she was agitating the situation. 340 00:13:39,961 --> 00:13:43,097 And I asked Roxy if she wanted to speak. 341 00:13:43,097 --> 00:13:46,767 She went on and she spoke, said whatever she had to say, 342 00:13:46,767 --> 00:13:48,803 and I waited peacefully. 343 00:13:48,803 --> 00:13:51,839 But soon as I began to speak, she was just like, 344 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:53,074 "I don't want to hear it." 345 00:13:53,074 --> 00:13:55,776 And it's like-- that was the first thing. 346 00:13:55,776 --> 00:13:59,547 And then it escalated to her picking up a chair, 347 00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:01,115 all of these other things. 348 00:14:01,115 --> 00:14:02,717 Now, mind you, at the hotel, 349 00:14:02,717 --> 00:14:05,253 it had already been dirty looks. 350 00:14:05,253 --> 00:14:07,154 This had been building. 351 00:14:07,154 --> 00:14:08,256 OK? 352 00:14:08,256 --> 00:14:09,957 So now we're in the kitchen. 353 00:14:09,957 --> 00:14:12,793 We go in to get some more wine, and she's there. 354 00:14:12,793 --> 00:14:14,562 But I'm not thinking twice about it. 355 00:14:14,562 --> 00:14:18,666 It's like, we old enough to know to keep our distance. 356 00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:20,935 But then she bumps me again. 357 00:14:20,935 --> 00:14:22,737 And then that's when I'm like, OK. 358 00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:25,039 I got to call her on this, 359 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:27,642 or she gon' be forever my bully. 360 00:14:27,642 --> 00:14:31,312 So at that moment, it's like, "Yo, you could apologize." 361 00:14:31,312 --> 00:14:32,880 "Well, I'm not gonna apologize." 362 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,448 OK. 363 00:14:34,448 --> 00:14:36,050 Well, then, only thing I can tell you is-- 364 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:37,385 - That's what made me feel like-- 365 00:14:37,385 --> 00:14:38,953 - If you bump me again-- - They wanted to fight. 366 00:14:38,953 --> 00:14:41,155 - I'm gon' have to snatch you up. 367 00:14:41,155 --> 00:14:42,990 - There's no reason, as a grown woman, 368 00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:44,725 why you can't just say, "Oh, my bad. 369 00:14:44,725 --> 00:14:46,027 I didn't mean to bump you, girl, my bad." 370 00:14:46,027 --> 00:14:47,328 - Right. 371 00:14:47,328 --> 00:14:48,496 - Even if you said, "Girl, I didn't even mean 372 00:14:48,496 --> 00:14:49,830 to bump you, my bad," with a attitude. 373 00:14:49,830 --> 00:14:52,767 But when you say, "I'm not gonna say excuse me," 374 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:54,869 this is my mom. 375 00:14:54,869 --> 00:14:58,372 You're going to say excuse me, period. 376 00:14:58,372 --> 00:15:00,708 - I mean, I guess I could have took the high road 377 00:15:00,708 --> 00:15:03,077 and walked away, but I'm not Michelle Obama. 378 00:15:03,077 --> 00:15:05,179 I'm Tea. You know what I'm saying? 379 00:15:05,179 --> 00:15:07,381 If you want to take it low, I can take it low too. 380 00:15:07,381 --> 00:15:09,684 I know how to limbo, you know what I'm saying? 381 00:15:09,684 --> 00:15:13,587 So I believe that it was an extremely unfortunate event. 382 00:15:13,587 --> 00:15:15,423 I hate that it happened, 383 00:15:15,423 --> 00:15:17,792 and especially for the world to see. 384 00:15:17,792 --> 00:15:20,995 But at the end of the day, it was straight disrespect 385 00:15:20,995 --> 00:15:24,465 and violation to my whole soul. 386 00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:25,666 - Let's pause right here, 387 00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:27,401 and we'll be back right after this. 388 00:15:27,401 --> 00:15:30,604 ♪ ♪ 389 00:15:31,939 --> 00:15:33,708 [tense music] 390 00:15:33,708 --> 00:15:35,777 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 391 00:15:35,777 --> 00:15:36,944 The Aftermath." 392 00:15:36,944 --> 00:15:39,013 We're still here with Ashley and Tea. 393 00:15:39,013 --> 00:15:41,749 Now, from my understanding, the frustration, 394 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:46,087 from what I was able to gather, is that, apparently, 395 00:15:46,087 --> 00:15:47,622 you have said some things online-- 396 00:15:47,622 --> 00:15:49,590 - Let me-- let's get this straight. 397 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:54,495 Roxy is the one who went online and said some stuff. 398 00:15:54,495 --> 00:15:57,332 I was tagged by the fan base, 399 00:15:57,332 --> 00:16:01,102 who tagged me into Roxy having a whole little meltdown 400 00:16:01,102 --> 00:16:02,603 about Ashley. 401 00:16:02,603 --> 00:16:06,107 I then addressed her and said, "Who is Roxanne? 402 00:16:06,107 --> 00:16:08,910 "And whoever this Roxanne is, her dirty-ass daughter..." 403 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:12,113 whatever I said, because at that point, 404 00:16:12,113 --> 00:16:13,781 you were talking about my daughter. 405 00:16:13,781 --> 00:16:15,016 I don't know you, lady. 406 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,617 I didn't even know Roxanne until then. 407 00:16:16,617 --> 00:16:19,687 But you crazy and out of your mind if you think 408 00:16:19,687 --> 00:16:21,789 that you can speak on somebody else's child, 409 00:16:21,789 --> 00:16:24,559 and then somebody is not gonna say something about yours. 410 00:16:24,559 --> 00:16:27,762 So, Roxy, you started it. 411 00:16:27,762 --> 00:16:30,198 - Now, Ashley, where is the issue stemming 412 00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:31,733 between you and Briana? 413 00:16:31,733 --> 00:16:34,168 - I just don't like that dirty-[bleep] bitch. 414 00:16:34,168 --> 00:16:35,336 She's a snake. 415 00:16:35,336 --> 00:16:36,637 She's messy. 416 00:16:36,637 --> 00:16:40,108 She's a fake-ass, selective, wannabe bully. 417 00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:42,510 Oh, she's a follower. I don't like her. 418 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:44,846 I don't like anything about that bitch. 419 00:16:45,847 --> 00:16:48,316 - She said she had no problem with you-- 420 00:16:48,316 --> 00:16:49,784 - Oh-- - Before all this. 421 00:16:49,784 --> 00:16:52,086 So just maybe-- - Who'd she say that to, Jesus? 422 00:16:52,086 --> 00:16:53,921 - Was that for the camera? - Wait, wait. 423 00:16:53,921 --> 00:16:55,990 - You said she had no problem with Ashley prior to this? 424 00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:57,425 - Yeah, she had no problem with her-- 425 00:16:57,425 --> 00:16:58,626 - Prior to the incident. - Yeah. 426 00:16:58,626 --> 00:17:00,094 We're talking about prior to the incident-- 427 00:17:00,094 --> 00:17:01,662 - Prior to the incident, yes. - No, that's not true. 428 00:17:01,662 --> 00:17:03,264 Let's tell it what it is. 429 00:17:03,264 --> 00:17:07,702 Back in the day, her baby daddy gave a statement to a blog, 430 00:17:07,702 --> 00:17:10,304 or he tweeted, or something-- this is with all respect 431 00:17:10,304 --> 00:17:11,939 to Devoin because he's got a girl now, 432 00:17:11,939 --> 00:17:13,541 and I love them both. 433 00:17:13,541 --> 00:17:16,344 But back in the day, when he was single, 434 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:18,112 he says something along the lines of, 435 00:17:18,112 --> 00:17:19,814 oh, she's bad, or, she's beautiful-- 436 00:17:19,814 --> 00:17:20,815 - Who's bad? - To me. 437 00:17:20,815 --> 00:17:22,150 - About you, OK. - Yes. 438 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:23,951 And it was picked up, and it was retweeted. 439 00:17:23,951 --> 00:17:25,987 And I seen some funny [bleep] that she said. 440 00:17:25,987 --> 00:17:27,722 I don't remember verbatim what it was. 441 00:17:27,722 --> 00:17:29,757 But I seen something. 442 00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:32,126 And that's what kicked it off. 443 00:17:32,126 --> 00:17:34,929 People like to throw rocks and hide their hands. 444 00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:37,532 And they bank on the fact that I'm not gonna 445 00:17:37,532 --> 00:17:38,866 call it to the forefront. 446 00:17:38,866 --> 00:17:40,535 No, bitch, I seen it. 447 00:17:40,535 --> 00:17:42,136 I have a problem with it. 448 00:17:42,136 --> 00:17:44,038 And I want to address it. 449 00:17:44,038 --> 00:17:46,274 And that's what they're hoping I don't do, 450 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:48,376 because every time I do, it's, "Oh, I don't have a problem. 451 00:17:48,376 --> 00:17:50,378 I don't know where this friction came from." 452 00:17:50,378 --> 00:17:53,948 - Is this something that maybe can get cleared up? 453 00:17:53,948 --> 00:17:56,451 - No, I'll never deal with that bitch in my life. 454 00:17:56,451 --> 00:17:58,519 - What does the healing look like? 455 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:00,221 Is it coexisting for you two? 456 00:18:00,221 --> 00:18:01,889 - It's definitely coexisting. 457 00:18:01,889 --> 00:18:03,991 - But then what happens when there is a look 458 00:18:03,991 --> 00:18:06,160 that's exchanged or-- 459 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,796 - Just the same way we spent all those days at "TMFR." 460 00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:10,164 And there was-- - There was a lot of-- 461 00:18:10,164 --> 00:18:11,432 - Funny [bleep] being said-- - Looks exchanged. 462 00:18:11,432 --> 00:18:12,900 - Looks exchanged, [bleep] under the breath. 463 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:13,901 I didn't address none of it. 464 00:18:13,901 --> 00:18:15,803 I don't have to, you know, 465 00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:18,206 always be the big, bad wolf blowing down somebody's door. 466 00:18:18,206 --> 00:18:19,574 I can chill. 467 00:18:19,574 --> 00:18:24,045 - If an apology was something that was needed 468 00:18:24,045 --> 00:18:26,848 for the process of healing 469 00:18:26,848 --> 00:18:29,450 to move forward into even just coexisting-- 470 00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:30,818 - Mm-hmm. 471 00:18:30,818 --> 00:18:33,988 - Would that be something y'all would be open to? 472 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:36,257 both: No. - Not giving or receiving? 473 00:18:36,257 --> 00:18:37,525 - Because I only apologize for things 474 00:18:37,525 --> 00:18:39,193 that I truly feel remorseful for. 475 00:18:39,193 --> 00:18:40,495 - And-- - You know? 476 00:18:40,495 --> 00:18:42,096 - I just want to piggyback on that to say, 477 00:18:42,096 --> 00:18:44,365 I won't be apologizing to anyone 478 00:18:44,365 --> 00:18:47,535 because I apologized to everybody that night. 479 00:18:47,535 --> 00:18:50,605 I tried to really make peace and just say, 480 00:18:50,605 --> 00:18:54,008 you know, an apology doesn't hurt me none, you know? 481 00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:55,343 And so I gave it. 482 00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:57,011 But I kind of feel like I just want 483 00:18:57,011 --> 00:18:59,380 my apology back at this point. 484 00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:02,016 - But if a conversation needs to be had, 485 00:19:02,016 --> 00:19:06,754 right, with you, Ashley, are you and Tea with the group? 486 00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:08,956 Because majority of them-- 487 00:19:08,956 --> 00:19:10,491 you know, and it's not a secret-- 488 00:19:10,491 --> 00:19:15,029 majority of them feel like you and Tea were in the wrong. 489 00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:16,330 - That's so good for them. 490 00:19:16,330 --> 00:19:18,366 - But so I'm saying, with that being said, 491 00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:20,101 right, if there was a conversation, 492 00:19:20,101 --> 00:19:21,302 what would that look like? 493 00:19:21,302 --> 00:19:22,303 - If that was the way I was treated, 494 00:19:22,303 --> 00:19:23,237 and they felt that I was wrong, 495 00:19:23,237 --> 00:19:24,372 then these are some bitches 496 00:19:24,372 --> 00:19:25,473 I don't want to be friends with. 497 00:19:25,473 --> 00:19:28,142 - Just as they're condemning me, 498 00:19:28,142 --> 00:19:30,111 they would all have to condemn Briana 499 00:19:30,111 --> 00:19:31,779 for jumping on the countertop saying 500 00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:34,916 she was gonna kick me in my face or condemn Roxy for-- 501 00:19:34,916 --> 00:19:35,917 - Now, who said-- - Picking up a chair-- 502 00:19:35,917 --> 00:19:37,318 - That was wrong? 503 00:19:37,318 --> 00:19:38,886 - For picking up a chair and acting like she 504 00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:40,621 was gonna throw it at my mom. 505 00:19:40,621 --> 00:19:42,089 See, that's the double standard. 506 00:19:42,089 --> 00:19:43,257 - Right. 507 00:19:43,257 --> 00:19:44,692 - I don't see the same accountability. 508 00:19:44,692 --> 00:19:45,993 - Mm-hmm. 509 00:19:45,993 --> 00:19:48,496 - And that's that clique, clique, gang-up [bleep]. 510 00:19:48,496 --> 00:19:50,464 And that's what I don't [bleep] with. 511 00:19:50,464 --> 00:19:51,933 I don't owe them a conversation. 512 00:19:51,933 --> 00:19:54,035 I don't owe them a mother[bleep] breath. 513 00:19:54,035 --> 00:19:56,704 - I totally-- yeah, I'm not in disagreeance with-- 514 00:19:56,704 --> 00:19:57,939 - Yeah. - Anything, and I think-- 515 00:19:57,939 --> 00:19:59,140 - No. 516 00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:00,508 - That, again, you both have every right 517 00:20:00,508 --> 00:20:01,943 to feel the way you feel. 518 00:20:01,943 --> 00:20:04,445 You both have totally different experiences 519 00:20:04,445 --> 00:20:06,380 of the same situation. 520 00:20:06,380 --> 00:20:08,215 And you're not wrong for saying, again, 521 00:20:08,215 --> 00:20:10,751 no, some things you just can't come back from. 522 00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:14,488 Can I just offer that you do not negate your voice, 523 00:20:14,488 --> 00:20:17,258 you do not negate what you feel about this at all, 524 00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:20,328 that you think about what does common ground look like. 525 00:20:20,328 --> 00:20:21,562 I'm not saying you got to move on it. 526 00:20:21,562 --> 00:20:22,697 We don't need no movement. 527 00:20:22,697 --> 00:20:25,600 But just process what that looks like 528 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,703 just in case that conversation does come up. 529 00:20:28,703 --> 00:20:30,271 - Think about it. 530 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:33,608 I appreciate you both being so honest and open right now. 531 00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:35,409 And, Coach B, as always, thank you for sharing your-- 532 00:20:35,409 --> 00:20:36,844 - Yeah, totally. - Words of wisdom. 533 00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:38,546 Up next, we'll find out what Cheyenne 534 00:20:38,546 --> 00:20:41,082 and Zach learned from Zach's first-ever session 535 00:20:41,082 --> 00:20:42,216 with Coach B. 536 00:20:42,216 --> 00:20:44,885 [upbeat music] 537 00:20:44,885 --> 00:20:46,887 [applause] 538 00:20:48,122 --> 00:20:50,224 - Show the ring off, Zach. Show it off. 539 00:20:51,492 --> 00:20:52,927 - Oh. - What's wrong? 540 00:20:52,927 --> 00:20:54,195 - Oh, my gosh. 541 00:20:54,195 --> 00:20:56,130 - I don't know what's wrong. - Is she OK? 542 00:20:57,398 --> 00:21:00,368 [upbeat music] 543 00:21:00,368 --> 00:21:02,303 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 544 00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,371 The Aftermath." 545 00:21:03,371 --> 00:21:04,739 Sitting with me now is Cheyenne, 546 00:21:04,739 --> 00:21:07,141 and let's also welcome her husband, Zach. 547 00:21:07,141 --> 00:21:08,609 - Husband. 548 00:21:08,609 --> 00:21:10,111 He a whole-ass husband. 549 00:21:10,111 --> 00:21:11,412 - [laughs] - We like it. 550 00:21:11,412 --> 00:21:12,814 Show the ring off, Zach. 551 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:15,049 Show it off. Let's take a moment right now. 552 00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:16,250 - Bling-bling. 553 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:17,952 - Give the ring a round of applause. 554 00:21:17,952 --> 00:21:19,821 - Oh, shut up, guys. - We like it. 555 00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:20,822 - No, she did. - Wait. 556 00:21:20,822 --> 00:21:22,056 - She did great. 557 00:21:22,056 --> 00:21:23,124 - Well, Chey, talk to me a little bit. 558 00:21:23,124 --> 00:21:24,392 What resonated with you the most 559 00:21:24,392 --> 00:21:26,227 from your experience at "Family Reunion." 560 00:21:26,227 --> 00:21:28,162 - I was nervous to bring my mom. 561 00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:30,064 We have the same face. 562 00:21:30,064 --> 00:21:31,699 These girls know me. 563 00:21:31,699 --> 00:21:34,836 So they know that, like, my face is just still. 564 00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:35,970 Like, it's just dry. 565 00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:37,104 It's a bitch face. 566 00:21:37,104 --> 00:21:38,206 But they know me. 567 00:21:38,206 --> 00:21:39,207 - That's what I say all the time. 568 00:21:39,207 --> 00:21:40,241 - So they've never met. 569 00:21:40,241 --> 00:21:41,609 She has the same face. 570 00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:43,544 So I didn't want anyone to think, 571 00:21:43,544 --> 00:21:45,379 damn, Chey's mom is a bitch-- 572 00:21:45,379 --> 00:21:47,582 like, you know, has, like, resting bitch face too. 573 00:21:47,582 --> 00:21:49,050 So I was just nervous. 574 00:21:49,050 --> 00:21:50,918 And I feel like my mom has the same pack of friends 575 00:21:50,918 --> 00:21:52,520 from, like, the sandbox. 576 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,389 I've never really seen, like, any new friends introduced. 577 00:21:55,389 --> 00:21:57,258 So I was nervous, like, is my mom gonna 578 00:21:57,258 --> 00:21:58,926 remember how to make friends? 579 00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:04,432 So I was really excited to see her branch out 580 00:22:04,432 --> 00:22:06,601 and, like, hang out with the other moms 581 00:22:06,601 --> 00:22:08,202 and make connections. 582 00:22:08,202 --> 00:22:10,538 And I think that was kind of like my favorite part 583 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:13,207 besides my husband showing up. 584 00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:15,643 - Hey. - All right, Mrs. Davis. 585 00:22:15,643 --> 00:22:17,712 - And, Zach, this was your first session-- 586 00:22:17,712 --> 00:22:19,247 - Yes, it was. - Right, ever? 587 00:22:19,247 --> 00:22:20,681 And this happened with Coach B. 588 00:22:20,681 --> 00:22:22,149 - Yeah, I'm glad that I did it. 589 00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:24,886 I'm glad I had the chance to sit down and meet with her. 590 00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:28,556 - Now, with Coach B, she had mentioned that you tend 591 00:22:28,556 --> 00:22:30,591 to turn into Mama Bear, 592 00:22:30,591 --> 00:22:33,027 and Zach will turn into a little boy, 593 00:22:33,027 --> 00:22:35,463 and that's the kind of dynamic between you two. 594 00:22:35,463 --> 00:22:36,998 How did you take that, how did you receive it, 595 00:22:36,998 --> 00:22:39,533 and what are you gonna do with that information? 596 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:42,670 - I didn't necessarily like it because I didn't really agree. 597 00:22:42,670 --> 00:22:44,538 I felt like putting those titles on it 598 00:22:44,538 --> 00:22:45,740 was a little demeaning to him, 599 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,808 and I never viewed him as a little boy. 600 00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:49,243 That's my man. 601 00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:50,745 That's how I view him. 602 00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:53,180 I think that I'm just naturally a nurturing person 603 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:55,182 and want to take care of everybody around me, 604 00:22:55,182 --> 00:22:56,350 Zach included. 605 00:22:56,350 --> 00:22:58,286 But I know that that's our relationship 606 00:22:58,286 --> 00:22:59,487 behind closed doors. 607 00:22:59,487 --> 00:23:01,522 So maybe, to an outside eye looking in, 608 00:23:01,522 --> 00:23:03,190 that's what you can take from it. 609 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,192 But that's not our relationship. 610 00:23:05,192 --> 00:23:06,394 - Yeah. - Got it. 611 00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:10,097 - Did you notice a difference with Zach? 612 00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:12,667 - Honestly, yeah, because when she was saying it, 613 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:14,001 I'm boiling. 614 00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:16,103 And he was, like, all cool and calm. 615 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,240 And I'm like, "Get her, get her, get her. 616 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,441 Do something." 617 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:21,709 But he's, like, coachable, I guess, 618 00:23:21,709 --> 00:23:22,843 and I'm un-coachable because-- 619 00:23:22,843 --> 00:23:24,145 - Nah, it was-- 620 00:23:24,145 --> 00:23:25,446 - I was like-- - That's the thing, though. 621 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:26,814 - "Say it again." No, I'm just kidding. 622 00:23:26,814 --> 00:23:28,215 [laughter] 623 00:23:28,215 --> 00:23:30,184 - Well, I want to hear all about Cheyenne's mom's 624 00:23:30,184 --> 00:23:31,819 experience on "Family Reunion." 625 00:23:31,819 --> 00:23:34,388 So let's bring Margaret down here. 626 00:23:34,388 --> 00:23:35,623 Come on down, Margaret. 627 00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:38,626 [cheers and applause] 628 00:23:38,626 --> 00:23:41,996 [upbeat music] 629 00:23:42,763 --> 00:23:44,498 Margaret, tell me, how was your experience 630 00:23:44,498 --> 00:23:45,700 at "Family Reunion"? 631 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,435 - I had a great experience. 632 00:23:47,435 --> 00:23:52,974 My goal was to understand my daughter better 633 00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:55,977 and almost feel what she feels. 634 00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:58,045 I mean, I'm a very protective mom. 635 00:23:58,045 --> 00:24:01,082 And I know that she deals with a lot 636 00:24:01,082 --> 00:24:03,718 and goes through a lot with the career path 637 00:24:03,718 --> 00:24:05,186 that she's chosen. 638 00:24:05,186 --> 00:24:07,488 So it gave me a little insight into her 639 00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:10,424 and all these other beautiful ladies and the moms. 640 00:24:10,424 --> 00:24:12,493 We need to support these girls. 641 00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:14,061 - Well said. 642 00:24:14,061 --> 00:24:16,831 Here's some unseen footage from the unstuck activity. 643 00:24:16,831 --> 00:24:18,699 [soft music] 644 00:24:18,699 --> 00:24:19,900 - It's like Dad didn't-- 645 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,803 he was a great provider. 646 00:24:22,803 --> 00:24:24,005 He was a great father. 647 00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:25,239 I mean, he's still a great provider. 648 00:24:25,239 --> 00:24:26,574 He's still a great father. 649 00:24:26,574 --> 00:24:28,609 But when it comes to, like, the love aspect, 650 00:24:28,609 --> 00:24:31,045 like, when did you guys hold hands, 651 00:24:31,045 --> 00:24:32,947 or did you guys kiss? 652 00:24:32,947 --> 00:24:35,750 Did he buy you flowers? 653 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:37,051 Right? 654 00:24:37,051 --> 00:24:38,652 - But that's why I left. 655 00:24:38,652 --> 00:24:41,022 And that's why I told them I was leaving, 656 00:24:41,022 --> 00:24:43,324 because I wanted them to see what love looked like. 657 00:24:43,324 --> 00:24:44,692 - Right. - Yeah. 658 00:24:44,692 --> 00:24:46,994 - OK, how did you feel when Cheyenne expressed 659 00:24:46,994 --> 00:24:50,531 that she did not want to have a loveless marriage, 660 00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:52,800 something that she saw you go through 661 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,435 with your first husband? 662 00:24:54,435 --> 00:24:57,671 - Well, we did not-- we loved each other. 663 00:24:57,671 --> 00:25:00,508 But we didn't-- we got together young. 664 00:25:00,508 --> 00:25:02,576 So she didn't see a lot of affection. 665 00:25:02,576 --> 00:25:06,380 But for some reason, we just got stuck into a rut. 666 00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:09,016 And it wasn't shown. 667 00:25:09,016 --> 00:25:10,484 But the love was there. 668 00:25:10,484 --> 00:25:12,186 - And how did that impact you, Chey? 669 00:25:12,186 --> 00:25:15,923 - I saw love within my household growing up. 670 00:25:15,923 --> 00:25:17,691 It wasn't, like, a cold household. 671 00:25:17,691 --> 00:25:21,028 But I didn't see, like, a lot of affection. 672 00:25:21,028 --> 00:25:24,665 When my parents did divorce, my mom was like, that's not-- 673 00:25:24,665 --> 00:25:26,333 that should not be your norm. 674 00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:28,169 Like, I don't want that to be your norm. 675 00:25:28,169 --> 00:25:31,072 I want someone who is gonna hold your hand, 676 00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:34,909 and bring you flowers, and slap your butt, like, 677 00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:36,077 you know, like-- 678 00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:37,344 - Romance you. 679 00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:39,380 - Yeah, she's like, you have to realize 680 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:41,749 that your partner needs to make love to you 681 00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:44,819 all day long, but not-- 682 00:25:44,819 --> 00:25:48,055 not sex, but, like, mentally, you know what I mean? 683 00:25:48,055 --> 00:25:50,157 Like, I look for those things now. 684 00:25:50,157 --> 00:25:53,861 And I feel like that's because I've listened to her, 685 00:25:53,861 --> 00:25:57,064 and I've seen what I loved from my parents' marriage. 686 00:25:57,064 --> 00:25:59,500 And I try to implement it in ours. 687 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,237 - Why do you think Zach and Chey's relationship 688 00:26:03,237 --> 00:26:04,605 is so much stronger? 689 00:26:04,605 --> 00:26:06,107 - They started off as friends. 690 00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:08,209 - Right. - And that makes a difference. 691 00:26:08,209 --> 00:26:11,145 You won't do to your friend what you'll do to your lover. 692 00:26:11,145 --> 00:26:12,646 I mean, there's a difference. 693 00:26:12,646 --> 00:26:15,249 And he's a very loyal friend. 694 00:26:15,249 --> 00:26:18,285 And it just blossomed. 695 00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,386 - That's amazing. 696 00:26:19,386 --> 00:26:20,921 - So-- - I love this. 697 00:26:20,921 --> 00:26:23,190 You all have a beautiful family for sure. 698 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:24,458 - Thank you. 699 00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:26,026 - Well, coming up, we'll chat with Kiaya 700 00:26:26,026 --> 00:26:28,129 about what she learned from the "Teen Mom" moms. 701 00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:29,230 We'll be right back. 702 00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:32,233 [upbeat music] 703 00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:34,001 ♪ ♪ 704 00:26:35,569 --> 00:26:37,171 - I don't really have friends at home. 705 00:26:37,171 --> 00:26:40,608 So, like, I don't really have too many people to confide in. 706 00:26:40,608 --> 00:26:43,811 - Well, we love you, just everything about you. 707 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:46,514 - Now you're trying to out me right now. 708 00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:47,748 And there's so much [...] that I could air about you, 709 00:26:47,748 --> 00:26:48,749 and that's pretty [...] up. 710 00:26:48,749 --> 00:26:50,117 - Go ahead. 711 00:26:50,117 --> 00:26:52,319 - OK. - OK. 712 00:26:53,754 --> 00:26:56,757 [upbeat music] 713 00:26:56,757 --> 00:26:58,926 - We're back with "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 714 00:26:58,926 --> 00:26:59,927 The Aftermath." 715 00:26:59,927 --> 00:27:01,162 We're now speaking with Kiaya 716 00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:02,696 and her mom, Tiffany. 717 00:27:04,064 --> 00:27:05,766 Nice to see the both of you. 718 00:27:05,766 --> 00:27:07,268 - Thank you for having us. - Of course. 719 00:27:07,268 --> 00:27:08,769 - We're so excited to be here, always. 720 00:27:08,769 --> 00:27:10,971 - OK, so, Kiaya, what did you expect 721 00:27:10,971 --> 00:27:12,740 before you came to "Family Reunion," 722 00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:15,743 and how did it actually compare to your experience? 723 00:27:15,743 --> 00:27:17,011 - Yeah, I don't know. 724 00:27:17,011 --> 00:27:18,412 I was just very optimistic going into it. 725 00:27:18,412 --> 00:27:20,714 I was ready for anything. I was hoping for the best. 726 00:27:20,714 --> 00:27:23,050 I learned a lot of-- not just about everybody else, 727 00:27:23,050 --> 00:27:24,552 but about myself too. 728 00:27:24,552 --> 00:27:26,854 - Ooh, what did you take away about yourself? 729 00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:29,056 - I was afraid of being me. 730 00:27:29,056 --> 00:27:31,192 But when I got here, and I was just-- 731 00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:33,460 everybody was being their authentic selves. 732 00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:35,663 So I had no choice but to be my authentic self. 733 00:27:35,663 --> 00:27:36,797 [laughter] 734 00:27:36,797 --> 00:27:37,998 And it honestly kind of made me 735 00:27:37,998 --> 00:27:39,400 love myself a little bit more. 736 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,701 - Mm. - I don't know. 737 00:27:40,701 --> 00:27:42,303 I just kind of felt mature, you know? 738 00:27:42,303 --> 00:27:43,370 - Yeah. - Yeah. 739 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:44,738 - How about for you, Mom? 740 00:27:44,738 --> 00:27:47,975 How was it to see your daughter being herself? 741 00:27:47,975 --> 00:27:49,810 - It was amazing, but I looked at her like, 742 00:27:49,810 --> 00:27:52,012 I mean, you belong, you know what I mean? 743 00:27:52,012 --> 00:27:53,881 Like, she definitely belonged. 744 00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:59,186 And I just love everyone just treat her like, you know, 745 00:27:59,186 --> 00:28:01,388 a little sister, and they give her advice, 746 00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,023 and they want to see her win. 747 00:28:03,023 --> 00:28:05,826 Like, everyone wants to see her win, 748 00:28:05,826 --> 00:28:07,628 and that is what I love, like, yeah. 749 00:28:07,628 --> 00:28:09,163 - That's important. - Mm-hmm. 750 00:28:09,163 --> 00:28:11,565 Now, Kiaya, you were one of the moms 751 00:28:11,565 --> 00:28:13,467 that did not get COVID. 752 00:28:13,467 --> 00:28:14,969 - I'm a survivor, baby. 753 00:28:14,969 --> 00:28:16,537 [laughter] 754 00:28:16,537 --> 00:28:18,839 How was it for you to build that bond with the other moms 755 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,174 who didn't have COVID? 756 00:28:20,174 --> 00:28:21,742 - Well, it was really-- it was really nice. 757 00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:22,977 Like, I don't know. 758 00:28:22,977 --> 00:28:24,245 I kind of felt like we were spending-- 759 00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:25,813 we spent more time with each other, 760 00:28:25,813 --> 00:28:27,948 so I felt like we grew a tighter bond. 761 00:28:27,948 --> 00:28:29,650 And then being able to meet Margaret, 762 00:28:29,650 --> 00:28:31,986 and Roxanne, and Christy and just to see that everybody-- 763 00:28:31,986 --> 00:28:33,187 - Wow. 764 00:28:33,187 --> 00:28:34,455 - Even the people that are not here-- 765 00:28:34,455 --> 00:28:35,556 are a reflection-- 766 00:28:35,556 --> 00:28:36,824 - [laughs] 767 00:28:36,824 --> 00:28:39,059 - Of they mama, and it was interesting. 768 00:28:39,059 --> 00:28:40,261 - I don't know if I want to be. 769 00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:43,030 [laughter] 770 00:28:43,030 --> 00:28:44,431 I don't know about that. 771 00:28:47,534 --> 00:28:49,837 - Some parts, some parts, some parts. 772 00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:53,841 - I like the new generation. 773 00:28:53,841 --> 00:28:56,043 - Everyone's like, wait, what, what? 774 00:28:56,043 --> 00:28:57,344 - And I mean that-- 775 00:28:57,344 --> 00:28:58,779 - In the best way. 776 00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:01,682 - With you guys, I mean that in the best way possible. 777 00:29:01,682 --> 00:29:02,916 - Got it. 778 00:29:02,916 --> 00:29:04,685 - You know us. We're about to laugh. 779 00:29:04,685 --> 00:29:07,421 - Everybody's like their mom's mini-me in a way. 780 00:29:07,421 --> 00:29:08,789 And it's just--I don't know. 781 00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:11,725 It was really amazing to just see everything. 782 00:29:11,725 --> 00:29:13,394 Like, I always felt like-- 783 00:29:13,394 --> 00:29:14,862 like, I don't really have friends at home. 784 00:29:14,862 --> 00:29:17,898 So, like, it bothers me as a young adult. 785 00:29:17,898 --> 00:29:21,635 I feel like I don't really have too many people to confide in, 786 00:29:21,635 --> 00:29:23,737 other than Teazha and my mom. 787 00:29:23,737 --> 00:29:26,073 So, like, growing up, I always felt like 788 00:29:26,073 --> 00:29:28,409 I had to fight for my acceptance, 789 00:29:28,409 --> 00:29:30,644 like I had to prove myself. 790 00:29:30,644 --> 00:29:32,813 And trust me, these are happy tears and not sad tears. 791 00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,948 But it was just a relief-- 792 00:29:34,948 --> 00:29:36,216 - Yeah. 793 00:29:36,216 --> 00:29:38,485 - To not have to prove myself, you know? 794 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,687 I felt so accepted. 795 00:29:39,687 --> 00:29:40,754 - Yeah. 796 00:29:40,754 --> 00:29:42,256 - I don't know. 797 00:29:42,256 --> 00:29:43,991 I just--I wouldn't take it back, and I'm very grateful. 798 00:29:43,991 --> 00:29:46,727 - We love you, just everything about you. 799 00:29:46,727 --> 00:29:48,162 - Both of you. 800 00:29:48,162 --> 00:29:51,165 - Kiaya, you've--for the time that I've known you, 801 00:29:51,165 --> 00:29:54,435 I feel like there's always been this weight on you about-- 802 00:29:54,435 --> 00:29:55,769 - Yeah. 803 00:29:55,769 --> 00:29:57,037 - Everything that happened with your father-- 804 00:29:57,037 --> 00:29:58,305 - Yeah. - This guilt that you carried. 805 00:29:58,305 --> 00:29:59,773 Is there anything that you discovered 806 00:29:59,773 --> 00:30:02,710 about yourself during this trip 807 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:05,846 when it comes to healing and coping 808 00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:07,948 with what you've been through? 809 00:30:07,948 --> 00:30:13,721 - It's tough because I feel like no matter which way I try 810 00:30:13,721 --> 00:30:16,390 to deal with the situation, it's just gonna be something 811 00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:18,859 that is gonna defeat me. 812 00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:20,227 I don't know. 813 00:30:20,227 --> 00:30:22,396 Like, I feel like, if I don't get it together, 814 00:30:22,396 --> 00:30:25,632 it's gonna drive me into a hole because, you know, 815 00:30:25,632 --> 00:30:27,935 most problems that people have-- 816 00:30:27,935 --> 00:30:31,071 like, other than, like, death-- you know, most problems, 817 00:30:31,071 --> 00:30:32,539 there is a solution. 818 00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,508 But there's no solution for this. 819 00:30:34,508 --> 00:30:37,344 You know, I won't get my daddy back, period. 820 00:30:37,344 --> 00:30:39,279 I won't get the time back. 821 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,882 I feel like I ran out of time, and it's not fair. 822 00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:43,951 - He's your angel, though. - Yeah, he is. 823 00:30:43,951 --> 00:30:45,819 - Forever and forever will be. 824 00:30:45,819 --> 00:30:47,020 - All right. 825 00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:48,489 Thank you so much, Kiaya and Tiffany, 826 00:30:48,489 --> 00:30:49,790 for being here today. 827 00:30:49,790 --> 00:30:52,126 After the break, we'll talk to Kayla and Luke. 828 00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:53,494 Stick around. 829 00:30:53,494 --> 00:30:56,163 [upbeat music] 830 00:30:56,163 --> 00:30:59,299 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 831 00:30:59,299 --> 00:31:02,803 - He had called his mom and stood his ground 832 00:31:02,803 --> 00:31:04,872 for the first time, which I think was great for him. 833 00:31:04,872 --> 00:31:06,840 And then she disowned him. 834 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,309 - Oh, my God. - Oh, my gosh. 835 00:31:09,309 --> 00:31:10,644 - I don't know what's wrong. - I got her. 836 00:31:10,644 --> 00:31:11,845 I got her. - Breathe. 837 00:31:11,845 --> 00:31:13,147 We got you. Breathe. 838 00:31:13,147 --> 00:31:14,348 - You guys, give her space. - We got you. 839 00:31:14,348 --> 00:31:15,883 - Can we call a medic? A medic. 840 00:31:15,883 --> 00:31:17,551 - Can we get someone here? - Can we get a medic out here? 841 00:31:19,538 --> 00:31:23,241 [upbeat electronic music] 842 00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:25,110 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 843 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:26,111 The Aftermath." 844 00:31:26,111 --> 00:31:27,813 It's now time to talk to Kayla. 845 00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:29,281 - Hi. 846 00:31:29,281 --> 00:31:32,918 - Kayla, let's take a look back at the conversation 847 00:31:32,918 --> 00:31:35,353 that Kayla had with Coach B. 848 00:31:35,353 --> 00:31:37,122 - What is your trust level like 849 00:31:37,122 --> 00:31:38,690 with your mom? 850 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:42,694 - I don't think it's really there. 851 00:31:42,694 --> 00:31:45,096 I don't really know if I can depend on her to make, like, 852 00:31:45,096 --> 00:31:47,432 good decisions for herself. 853 00:31:47,432 --> 00:31:49,668 She struggles with, like, severe anxiety, 854 00:31:49,668 --> 00:31:53,171 severe depression from, like, her own abuse growing up. 855 00:31:53,171 --> 00:31:54,573 I remember when I was really young 856 00:31:54,573 --> 00:31:55,974 and I didn't really understand what's going on. 857 00:31:55,974 --> 00:31:57,442 She was in a very abusive relationship, 858 00:31:57,442 --> 00:31:59,244 and the only way she felt like she could get out of it 859 00:31:59,244 --> 00:32:02,047 was to check herself into inpatient. 860 00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:03,515 I was scared. 861 00:32:03,515 --> 00:32:05,817 I didn't know if my mom was gonna come back. 862 00:32:05,817 --> 00:32:08,820 I didn't know if she was gonna kill herself. 863 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:09,821 - Why do you-- 864 00:32:09,821 --> 00:32:12,190 - Because that's why she went in. 865 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,930 - Now, in the series, we did find out, you know, 866 00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:21,066 pretty intense stuff about your mom's past. 867 00:32:21,066 --> 00:32:22,334 - Yes. 868 00:32:22,334 --> 00:32:24,870 - And she suffered abuse, suicidal thoughts. 869 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:27,038 - Yes. 870 00:32:27,038 --> 00:32:31,109 - How hard was it for you to see her share that? 871 00:32:31,109 --> 00:32:33,545 - Yeah, I mean, something that she's 872 00:32:33,545 --> 00:32:35,313 kept private besides, like, you know, 873 00:32:35,313 --> 00:32:37,182 me knowing and family. 874 00:32:37,182 --> 00:32:38,817 So I think that was really hard for her 875 00:32:38,817 --> 00:32:40,185 to share with the world. 876 00:32:40,185 --> 00:32:41,887 But I was proud of her for speaking her truth 877 00:32:41,887 --> 00:32:43,054 because then, you know, 878 00:32:43,054 --> 00:32:44,456 she could hopefully heal from it. 879 00:32:44,456 --> 00:32:47,726 - Now, you and Luke got into a big argument-- 880 00:32:47,726 --> 00:32:49,361 - Yes, ma'am. - Over the phone-- 881 00:32:49,361 --> 00:32:50,662 - Yes, we did. - On "Family Reunion." 882 00:32:50,662 --> 00:32:51,930 - Yes, we did. 883 00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:53,465 - Here's a look back at the conversation 884 00:32:53,465 --> 00:32:56,001 that Kayla had with Luke on the phone. 885 00:32:56,001 --> 00:32:57,469 - I don't give a [bleep] about a bitch 886 00:32:57,469 --> 00:32:58,937 talking [bleep] about me on social media. 887 00:32:58,937 --> 00:33:00,505 That's not what this is about. 888 00:33:00,505 --> 00:33:02,607 It's about the fact that she knows what happens to Izaiah, 889 00:33:02,607 --> 00:33:04,542 and she's trying to [bleep] cover that [bleep] up. 890 00:33:04,542 --> 00:33:06,478 And it's triggering that all this is [bleep] 891 00:33:06,478 --> 00:33:07,979 happening when I'm not home. 892 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,416 - Check her! [bleep] check her! 893 00:33:11,416 --> 00:33:13,718 [dramatic music] 894 00:33:13,718 --> 00:33:15,220 I'm so sick of this [bleep]! 895 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:17,188 It's my [bleep] kids! 896 00:33:17,188 --> 00:33:18,523 Don't [bleep] hang up on me! 897 00:33:18,523 --> 00:33:19,524 Please, please. 898 00:33:19,524 --> 00:33:20,926 I'm so sick of this [bleep]! 899 00:33:20,926 --> 00:33:22,794 It's my [bleep] kids! 900 00:33:22,794 --> 00:33:25,730 Don't [bleep] hang up on me, you piece of [bleep]. 901 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:28,733 [dramatic music] 902 00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:30,402 ♪ ♪ 903 00:33:30,402 --> 00:33:32,103 - What was the end result to that? 904 00:33:32,103 --> 00:33:35,807 - He had called his mom and stood his ground 905 00:33:35,807 --> 00:33:38,009 for the first time, which I think was great for him. 906 00:33:38,009 --> 00:33:39,544 - Like, what do you mean stood his ground? 907 00:33:39,544 --> 00:33:40,578 Like, with her? 908 00:33:40,578 --> 00:33:42,914 - With her, yes, expressed himself 909 00:33:42,914 --> 00:33:44,482 because something, like, he struggles with, 910 00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:46,985 expressing himself and standing up to her. 911 00:33:46,985 --> 00:33:50,155 And then she disowned him and said she wanted nothing 912 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:52,257 to do with him or the kids. 913 00:33:52,257 --> 00:33:55,293 - Now, Briana, you had a big reaction to that. 914 00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:58,897 - I just don't understand how someone 915 00:33:58,897 --> 00:34:00,932 can take it out on the kids. 916 00:34:00,932 --> 00:34:03,101 And even for him, like, that's your son. 917 00:34:03,101 --> 00:34:05,337 Why the [bleep] would you do that? 918 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:07,272 So to me, it's shocking because it's like-- 919 00:34:07,272 --> 00:34:08,573 - Yeah. 920 00:34:08,573 --> 00:34:09,741 - Yeah, that's your son. 921 00:34:09,741 --> 00:34:11,142 Like, you need to be there for him, 922 00:34:11,142 --> 00:34:15,013 and you need to be there for his kid also, you know? 923 00:34:15,013 --> 00:34:16,514 So that's tough. 924 00:34:16,514 --> 00:34:19,951 - Before you bring Luke out here, Kayla, 925 00:34:19,951 --> 00:34:21,586 are you and him in a relationship? 926 00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:23,922 - No, we are not. 927 00:34:23,922 --> 00:34:26,091 He actually got an apartment with his friend. 928 00:34:26,091 --> 00:34:27,392 So we are living separately. 929 00:34:27,392 --> 00:34:28,960 We're not in a relationship. 930 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,161 Yeah. 931 00:34:30,161 --> 00:34:32,931 - Any possibility of that from your end? 932 00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:35,700 - I mean, I don't know what the future holds. 933 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:38,937 But I think, like, our past kind of caught up to us. 934 00:34:38,937 --> 00:34:40,672 - What do you mean by that? 935 00:34:40,672 --> 00:34:42,674 - Just all this stuff we had went through 936 00:34:42,674 --> 00:34:44,509 during the four years of our relationship. 937 00:34:44,509 --> 00:34:45,910 There's so much that we have buried-- 938 00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:47,379 - Sure. 939 00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:50,749 - That I just don't know if we can ever really overcome. 940 00:34:50,749 --> 00:34:52,217 - Even with additional-- 941 00:34:52,217 --> 00:34:53,284 - She's about ready to pass out. 942 00:34:53,284 --> 00:34:54,486 Can someone get her? 943 00:34:54,486 --> 00:34:55,854 She's about ready to pass out. - Oh. 944 00:34:55,854 --> 00:34:57,255 - Oh, my God. - Oh, my God. 945 00:34:57,255 --> 00:34:58,523 - I don't know what's wrong with her. 946 00:34:58,523 --> 00:34:59,524 - I got her. - I got her. 947 00:34:59,524 --> 00:35:00,525 - Got her? - Yep, yep. 948 00:35:00,525 --> 00:35:02,927 You're good. You're good. 949 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,927 You're good. You're good. 950 00:35:02,927 --> 00:35:04,095 - Breathe, breathe. - Is Jade OK? 951 00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:04,963 - Breathe, breathe. Just breathe. 952 00:35:04,963 --> 00:35:06,431 We got you. Breathe. 953 00:35:06,431 --> 00:35:07,766 - Oh, I'm scared. - You guys, give her space. 954 00:35:07,766 --> 00:35:08,833 - It's OK, we got you. - Can we call a medic? 955 00:35:08,833 --> 00:35:10,435 A medic. - Can we get someone? 956 00:35:10,435 --> 00:35:12,537 - Can we get a medic out here if they're not already there? 957 00:35:12,537 --> 00:35:14,239 - There's a chair. Get that chair right there. 958 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,306 - Calm down. It's OK. 959 00:35:15,306 --> 00:35:16,307 - Sit here. 960 00:35:16,307 --> 00:35:18,977 - I can just-- 961 00:35:18,977 --> 00:35:20,178 - All right, guys. 962 00:35:20,178 --> 00:35:21,846 Let's step back for the medics here. 963 00:35:21,846 --> 00:35:23,681 - Give her space. - Give her air. 964 00:35:23,681 --> 00:35:25,316 Give her air. 965 00:35:25,316 --> 00:35:28,153 - My chest is, like, hurt-- like, my chest actually hurts. 966 00:35:28,153 --> 00:35:29,821 [gasps] 967 00:35:29,821 --> 00:35:31,456 - Can you describe the pain in your chest? 968 00:35:31,456 --> 00:35:32,590 - It hurts. 969 00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:33,825 Oh, stop. 970 00:35:33,825 --> 00:35:35,326 Don't touch me, please. - Can I get-- 971 00:35:35,326 --> 00:35:36,795 - There's Sean right here. - She's shaking. 972 00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:38,196 - Can we clear the room? 973 00:35:38,196 --> 00:35:39,798 Can we get everyone to clear out of the room, please? 974 00:35:39,798 --> 00:35:41,032 - Sorry. 975 00:35:41,032 --> 00:35:43,034 - Hey, can we get some guys to get her... 976 00:35:43,034 --> 00:35:44,936 - I'm so scared. 977 00:35:44,936 --> 00:35:46,871 - Just focus on-- - I'm just scared. 978 00:35:46,871 --> 00:35:49,174 Oh, God, I'm so scared. 979 00:35:49,174 --> 00:35:51,276 - Don't be scared. 980 00:35:51,276 --> 00:35:54,512 - Oh, every time, I'm like, I'm dying, I'm dying, I'm dying. 981 00:35:54,512 --> 00:35:55,880 I'm dead. 982 00:35:57,516 --> 00:35:58,817 - Oh, [bleep]. 983 00:35:58,817 --> 00:36:00,085 - We're just gonna go right through here. 984 00:36:00,085 --> 00:36:01,287 - Oh, feel like I'm going to be sick. 985 00:36:01,287 --> 00:36:03,355 [tense music] 986 00:36:03,355 --> 00:36:05,190 Oh, [bleep]. 987 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:09,161 ♪ ♪ 988 00:36:09,161 --> 00:36:11,931 [upbeat electronic music] 989 00:36:11,931 --> 00:36:14,500 - We're back, and Jade is getting medical attention, 990 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,236 and we'll update you as we get more information. 991 00:36:17,236 --> 00:36:19,238 We're gonna continue with our show, 992 00:36:19,238 --> 00:36:21,340 and we invited Luke here to give Kayla and Luke 993 00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:23,042 the opportunity that they didn't get 994 00:36:23,042 --> 00:36:25,244 in Oregon to work through some of their problems. 995 00:36:25,244 --> 00:36:27,680 So please welcome Luke and Coach B. 996 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,014 [applause] 997 00:36:29,014 --> 00:36:31,150 ♪ ♪ 998 00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:32,918 - Hey, Luke. 999 00:36:32,918 --> 00:36:34,019 Hey, Coach B. 1000 00:36:34,019 --> 00:36:35,154 - Hello, hello. - What's up? 1001 00:36:35,154 --> 00:36:36,755 Hey, how you doing? How y'all doing? 1002 00:36:36,755 --> 00:36:37,957 How y'all doing? 1003 00:36:37,957 --> 00:36:39,191 - OK, so, Luke, 1004 00:36:39,191 --> 00:36:40,426 Kayla gave us some updates. 1005 00:36:40,426 --> 00:36:42,394 - Mm-hmm. You two are no longer together? 1006 00:36:42,394 --> 00:36:44,163 - No, we're not. - OK. 1007 00:36:44,163 --> 00:36:45,864 How do you feel about that? 1008 00:36:45,864 --> 00:36:47,499 - Wasn't my decision. 1009 00:36:47,499 --> 00:36:49,401 I'll say that, but, you know, 1010 00:36:49,401 --> 00:36:53,138 I got to respect it and keep on living life, you know? 1011 00:36:53,138 --> 00:36:54,373 - Right. 1012 00:36:54,373 --> 00:36:55,975 Are you still in love with Kayla? 1013 00:36:55,975 --> 00:36:58,644 - Very much. 1014 00:36:58,644 --> 00:37:01,113 - How does that make you feel, Kayla? 1015 00:37:01,113 --> 00:37:03,148 - It's a hard situation. 1016 00:37:03,148 --> 00:37:04,450 You know, I'm not gonna say, like, 1017 00:37:04,450 --> 00:37:06,685 there's no feelings there. 1018 00:37:06,685 --> 00:37:10,889 But I do feel like our past just really caught up to us. 1019 00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:13,092 - Kayla, what was that last straw? 1020 00:37:13,092 --> 00:37:15,094 Take me to your mindset. 1021 00:37:15,094 --> 00:37:17,029 - I think just, like, my self-reflection. 1022 00:37:17,029 --> 00:37:19,398 Like, I didn't like the person I became-- 1023 00:37:19,398 --> 00:37:21,967 - Mm. - Throughout the relationship. 1024 00:37:21,967 --> 00:37:24,036 Like, he became better, and I became worse. 1025 00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:25,738 It's just, like, ironic because I feel like me, 1026 00:37:25,738 --> 00:37:26,939 like, building him up, 1027 00:37:26,939 --> 00:37:28,674 I was tearing myself down at the same time. 1028 00:37:28,674 --> 00:37:33,512 - Where do you think you fell short at with her? 1029 00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,014 - I don't know. 1030 00:37:35,014 --> 00:37:37,883 - Kayla, can you enlighten him on where he fell short? 1031 00:37:37,883 --> 00:37:41,253 - I would say really the cheating 1032 00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:44,289 throughout, like, the pregnancy and after the pregnancy. 1033 00:37:44,289 --> 00:37:45,791 And it wasn't just one incident. 1034 00:37:45,791 --> 00:37:47,226 It was multiple. 1035 00:37:47,226 --> 00:37:50,829 So I don't think he was in love with me 1036 00:37:50,829 --> 00:37:53,665 when I was in love with him, and then it's like-- 1037 00:37:53,665 --> 00:37:58,037 it took me, like, stepping out on him for him to, like, 1038 00:37:58,037 --> 00:37:59,104 develop those feelings. 1039 00:37:59,104 --> 00:38:00,305 - Did you hear what you said? 1040 00:38:00,305 --> 00:38:02,474 It took you to match his toxicity-- 1041 00:38:02,474 --> 00:38:03,876 - Yeah. 1042 00:38:03,876 --> 00:38:06,111 - And match his dysfunction for him to wake up. 1043 00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:08,414 I want to ask-- and you may not listen, 1044 00:38:08,414 --> 00:38:11,450 but I want to ask that you stop pursuing her and any woman 1045 00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:13,085 until you pursue yourself. 1046 00:38:13,085 --> 00:38:16,355 - I'm good on any type of relationship right now. 1047 00:38:16,355 --> 00:38:17,623 - Mm-hmm. 1048 00:38:17,623 --> 00:38:18,924 - Like, I've learned I'm not good at it. 1049 00:38:18,924 --> 00:38:20,125 So I feel like-- 1050 00:38:20,125 --> 00:38:21,260 - Can you commit to that? 1051 00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:22,494 - Oh, definitely. 1052 00:38:22,494 --> 00:38:23,595 - Kayla. 1053 00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:24,696 - Yes, ma'am? 1054 00:38:24,696 --> 00:38:26,365 - Tell me where you are. 1055 00:38:26,365 --> 00:38:28,300 There's a new relationship or something going? 1056 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,369 - No, I'm not. I'm not in a relationship. 1057 00:38:30,369 --> 00:38:32,971 - OK, so you're not--oh, OK. 1058 00:38:32,971 --> 00:38:34,773 Well-- - Please tell the truth, Kayla. 1059 00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:36,475 - I'm not in a relationship. 1060 00:38:36,475 --> 00:38:38,410 I am seeing somebody, 1061 00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:40,145 but, like, it's new, you know what I mean? 1062 00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:41,980 Just feeling it out. 1063 00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:44,550 - The only thing that I was not OK with 1064 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:46,652 is how early she brought the kids around him. 1065 00:38:46,652 --> 00:38:49,321 - No, no, no, no, no. - Tell the truth. 1066 00:38:49,321 --> 00:38:51,457 - He helped me move a piece of furniture. 1067 00:38:51,457 --> 00:38:53,959 - She had a friend-- the guy--help her move the bed. 1068 00:38:53,959 --> 00:38:57,229 And I was just upset because the children were present. 1069 00:38:57,229 --> 00:38:58,497 That was my only problem. 1070 00:38:58,497 --> 00:38:59,932 - Now you're trying to out me right now, 1071 00:38:59,932 --> 00:39:01,400 and there's so much [bleep] I could air about you, 1072 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,634 and that's pretty [bleep] up. 1073 00:39:02,634 --> 00:39:04,770 - Go ahead. 1074 00:39:04,770 --> 00:39:06,071 - Kayla, you're getting emotional. 1075 00:39:06,071 --> 00:39:07,506 What's going on? 1076 00:39:07,506 --> 00:39:08,907 - Because I feel like he always wants to paint me 1077 00:39:08,907 --> 00:39:10,609 as this bad person. 1078 00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:11,977 And it's so [bleep] frustrating. 1079 00:39:11,977 --> 00:39:13,545 His family does it. He does it. 1080 00:39:13,545 --> 00:39:14,546 And I feel like I don't be doing 1081 00:39:14,546 --> 00:39:15,981 [bleep] wrong to this man. 1082 00:39:15,981 --> 00:39:17,149 - The family I don't talk to-- - I have helped him. 1083 00:39:17,149 --> 00:39:18,383 - Because I stood up for our child? 1084 00:39:18,383 --> 00:39:19,585 - I've helped him so much-- - Our son? 1085 00:39:19,585 --> 00:39:22,221 - And all he does is tear me down. 1086 00:39:22,221 --> 00:39:23,489 - This is the last thing I wanted to do 1087 00:39:23,489 --> 00:39:24,923 was the fighting and arguing because after-- 1088 00:39:24,923 --> 00:39:26,291 - No, it's just funny-- - This, we got to go home. 1089 00:39:26,291 --> 00:39:27,893 - Because before we came here, he's like, 1090 00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:29,761 "I'm not gonna fight with you. I'm not gonna do any of that. 1091 00:39:29,761 --> 00:39:31,530 Don't air out my business. I'm not gonna try to." 1092 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:32,698 Because I told him, I'm like, 1093 00:39:32,698 --> 00:39:34,166 "I feel like you're gonna get up here 1094 00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:35,968 and try to twist the situation into something it's not." 1095 00:39:35,968 --> 00:39:37,035 He's like, "No, I would never do that. 1096 00:39:37,035 --> 00:39:38,103 I would never do that." 1097 00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:39,671 But you're doing that. - OK. 1098 00:39:39,671 --> 00:39:41,373 - I feel like he's always trying to paint himself 1099 00:39:41,373 --> 00:39:43,742 as the victim, always. 1100 00:39:43,742 --> 00:39:46,211 - I don't want to cause any problems because the last thing 1101 00:39:46,211 --> 00:39:48,514 that I want--that's the last thing that I want 1102 00:39:48,514 --> 00:39:50,182 because my kids are my everything. 1103 00:39:50,182 --> 00:39:52,951 And, like, she knows that. 1104 00:39:52,951 --> 00:39:55,254 Like, I don't want our relationship to be 1105 00:39:55,254 --> 00:39:58,223 any more difficult than what it was. 1106 00:39:58,223 --> 00:40:00,792 And I just want to keep being able to see them when I can 1107 00:40:00,792 --> 00:40:02,528 or when I-- 1108 00:40:02,528 --> 00:40:05,130 like, what we got going now is perfectly fine with me. 1109 00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:07,299 And I just didn't want to come up here and ruin that. 1110 00:40:07,299 --> 00:40:11,203 And I wasn't trying to air anything out. 1111 00:40:11,203 --> 00:40:13,205 Like, I truly am sorry. 1112 00:40:13,205 --> 00:40:14,473 Like, I didn't-- 1113 00:40:14,473 --> 00:40:16,975 that wasn't my intention, and you know that. 1114 00:40:16,975 --> 00:40:19,178 - Understand that you're parents at the end of the day. 1115 00:40:19,178 --> 00:40:21,513 And it's really not about airing each other out. 1116 00:40:21,513 --> 00:40:23,815 It's about having a real conversation. 1117 00:40:23,815 --> 00:40:25,918 If you can't be transparent, and you can't be honest, 1118 00:40:25,918 --> 00:40:27,252 you can't heal a lie, 1119 00:40:27,252 --> 00:40:28,754 you'll just be stuck in dysfunction. 1120 00:40:28,754 --> 00:40:32,824 Healing takes place when truth is brought forward. 1121 00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:33,926 OK. 1122 00:40:33,926 --> 00:40:35,160 - Well, thank you so much, Kayla. 1123 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,495 Thank you, Luke, for being out here. 1124 00:40:36,495 --> 00:40:38,197 Really appreciate it. 1125 00:40:38,197 --> 00:40:40,265 And that does it for "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 1126 00:40:40,265 --> 00:40:41,600 The Aftermath." 1127 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,535 Thank you so much to the moms, the grandmas, 1128 00:40:43,535 --> 00:40:45,971 the dads, Coach B, and everyone who made 1129 00:40:45,971 --> 00:40:47,940 this "Family Reunion" so special. 1130 00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:49,908 I'm Nessa, and I'll see you next time. 1131 00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:52,911 [cheers and applause] 1132 00:40:52,911 --> 00:40:55,380 ♪ ♪ 1133 00:41:01,353 --> 00:41:04,356 [soft music] 1134 00:41:04,356 --> 00:41:11,396 ♪ ♪