1 00:00:00,301 --> 00:00:03,936 Aftermath"... 2 00:00:04,005 --> 00:00:07,906 - Everybody are a reflection of their mommy. 3 00:00:07,975 --> 00:00:09,675 - I don't know if I want to be. 4 00:00:09,744 --> 00:00:11,844 [laughter] 5 00:00:11,912 --> 00:00:14,046 - I just don't like that dirty-[bleep] bitch. 6 00:00:14,115 --> 00:00:15,180 - I'm not doing this. 7 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:17,349 I'm not feeding this bitch anything. 8 00:00:17,418 --> 00:00:19,151 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 9 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:21,220 - She said she had no problem with you. 10 00:00:21,288 --> 00:00:23,655 - Who she say that to, Jesus? 11 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:27,059 - She just packs it away and tries to, like, 12 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,128 act like it never happened, so I'm like, 13 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:31,663 how do I heal? 14 00:00:31,732 --> 00:00:34,600 - Ryan, tell me, what is your vision 15 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:38,437 for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci? 16 00:00:38,506 --> 00:00:40,539 - Oh, man. This is emotional. 17 00:00:40,608 --> 00:00:42,641 - We're gonna make good memories, God damn it. 18 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:43,842 - Besties for the resties. 19 00:00:43,911 --> 00:00:45,310 [laughter] 20 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,678 - ♪ I know some people ♪ 21 00:00:46,747 --> 00:00:49,415 ♪ They would die for me, die for me ♪ 22 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:50,783 ♪ We run together, they're my family ♪ 23 00:00:50,851 --> 00:00:53,452 - Welcome to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath." 24 00:00:53,521 --> 00:00:54,887 I'm your host, Nessa. 25 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:57,790 Now, after the success of the first family reunion, 26 00:00:57,858 --> 00:01:00,225 the teen moms decided to do it again, 27 00:01:00,294 --> 00:01:01,794 and this time around they were joined 28 00:01:01,862 --> 00:01:05,097 by some "Young and Pregnant" moms as well as the grandmas. 29 00:01:05,166 --> 00:01:07,099 Tonight the cast is here to tell us all about 30 00:01:07,168 --> 00:01:11,170 their unforgettable experience, so please welcome Amber, 31 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:15,874 Maci, Kayla, Kiaya, Cheyenne, 32 00:01:15,943 --> 00:01:19,378 Catelynn, Briana, Jade, 33 00:01:19,447 --> 00:01:22,648 Tiffany, Margaret, Roxanne, 34 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:24,783 and Christy. 35 00:01:24,852 --> 00:01:28,053 And later we'll be sitting down with Ashley and her mom Tea. 36 00:01:28,122 --> 00:01:33,258 And sitting next to me is our favorite life coach, Coach B. 37 00:01:33,327 --> 00:01:34,960 All right, Coach B, how do you feel 38 00:01:35,029 --> 00:01:36,562 sitting here right now? 39 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:39,431 - I mean, well, I always feel good to be able to see what-- 40 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:42,835 I always say my babies-- after we've done so much work. 41 00:01:42,903 --> 00:01:45,437 And I have to say that this season 42 00:01:45,506 --> 00:01:47,406 there was more trust in themself, 43 00:01:47,475 --> 00:01:49,575 and there was more trust in the process and me, 44 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:55,681 so it made for not easier but a better working environment. 45 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:57,049 - Got it. 46 00:01:57,118 --> 00:01:59,251 - For the moms who went to the first family reunion, 47 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,786 how did it compare? 48 00:02:00,855 --> 00:02:02,154 - It just felt safer, 49 00:02:02,223 --> 00:02:04,289 because we did have that bond with Coach B, 50 00:02:04,358 --> 00:02:09,161 but we also had the safe space within us. 51 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:11,930 So whereas, like, last year I was, like, 52 00:02:11,999 --> 00:02:14,633 "I wonder what this exercise is gonna be?" 53 00:02:14,702 --> 00:02:16,602 This year it's like, "Can't wait for the exercise today. 54 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:17,870 What's going on?" 55 00:02:17,938 --> 00:02:20,472 You know, we were, like, eager to--to do the work. 56 00:02:20,541 --> 00:02:21,840 - Got it. 57 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:24,276 Kayla, how did you feel stepping into the retreat? 58 00:02:24,345 --> 00:02:25,744 - At first I was a little nervous. 59 00:02:25,813 --> 00:02:28,480 'Cause I know coming into it everyone had bonds already, 60 00:02:28,549 --> 00:02:30,616 and I didn't know if I'd be able to create the same bonds. 61 00:02:30,684 --> 00:02:32,551 'Cause I'm kind of closed off. - Mm-hmm. 62 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:34,086 - But they were super welcoming, 63 00:02:34,155 --> 00:02:36,388 and now I really feel like I'm part of the "Teen Mom" family. 64 00:02:36,457 --> 00:02:38,357 - Oh, I like that. - Yes. 65 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:40,225 - Why isn't your mom here today? 66 00:02:40,294 --> 00:02:41,627 - Oh, my mom's on vacation. 67 00:02:41,695 --> 00:02:42,828 She's living her best life. 68 00:02:42,897 --> 00:02:44,263 - And, Kiaya, how about for you? 69 00:02:44,331 --> 00:02:45,731 Were you surprised-- - Oh, I had a blast. 70 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,499 - You had a blast? - A blast. 71 00:02:47,568 --> 00:02:49,868 - Love you. - Love you. 72 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:51,370 And yeah. - Did you feel 73 00:02:51,438 --> 00:02:53,539 that the moms, you know, they embraced you? 74 00:02:53,607 --> 00:02:54,907 - 100%. 75 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:56,008 I can't say everybody. [laughs] 76 00:02:56,076 --> 00:02:59,077 But everyone on this stage did. 77 00:02:59,146 --> 00:03:01,013 And it was a great experience. 78 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:03,882 And I love them, and I'm just, like, 79 00:03:03,951 --> 00:03:04,883 besties for the resties. 80 00:03:04,952 --> 00:03:07,553 [laughter] 81 00:03:07,621 --> 00:03:09,555 - Bri, were you nervous to bring your mom? 82 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:11,590 - Um, yes and no. 83 00:03:11,659 --> 00:03:13,692 I was excited for my mom to experience this. 84 00:03:13,761 --> 00:03:16,128 I think me and her really needed to be here. 85 00:03:16,230 --> 00:03:17,829 - Mm-hmm. 86 00:03:17,898 --> 00:03:20,065 - But no, because there was a lot of stuff going online 87 00:03:20,134 --> 00:03:23,001 with a certain grandmother, and, you know, 88 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:24,336 my mom is a ride-or-die. 89 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:25,637 - I don't give a [bleep]. - She protects me. 90 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:27,072 - I don't give a [bleep]. - And I didn't want 91 00:03:27,141 --> 00:03:28,607 the situation to escalate. - I don't give a [bleep]. 92 00:03:28,676 --> 00:03:29,675 - But it ended up happening... - I don't give a [bleep]. 93 00:03:29,743 --> 00:03:30,909 - That way anyways. 94 00:03:30,978 --> 00:03:32,644 - Mm, all right. 95 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:34,346 Of course the biggest difference this time 96 00:03:34,415 --> 00:03:36,181 was the involvement of the grandmas. 97 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:38,383 And their presence shook up the family reunion 98 00:03:38,452 --> 00:03:40,586 in ways nobody expected. 99 00:03:40,654 --> 00:03:42,554 Let's look back and see what happened. 100 00:03:42,623 --> 00:03:44,523 - Ah, damn. 101 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:47,659 - This year I decided we need to bring our own moms. 102 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:49,661 - Hi. - Oh, wow. 103 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:50,862 - Hi, you guys. - Hello. 104 00:03:50,931 --> 00:03:51,897 - Hey, girls. Hi. 105 00:03:51,966 --> 00:03:53,532 - Whoo! 106 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:54,833 - Surprise, bitches. 107 00:03:54,902 --> 00:03:56,268 "Young and Pregnant" is here. 108 00:03:56,337 --> 00:03:57,803 - Here's to us being amazing parents 109 00:03:57,871 --> 00:03:59,871 and doing better than what our parents have done. 110 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:01,006 - Love you guys. 111 00:04:01,075 --> 00:04:02,441 - Ooh, [bleep]. 112 00:04:02,509 --> 00:04:04,276 - Ahh! [laughs] 113 00:04:04,345 --> 00:04:06,578 - This reunion we want to work on 114 00:04:06,647 --> 00:04:07,879 the intergenerational issues. 115 00:04:07,948 --> 00:04:10,682 Chey often mirrors her mom towards you. 116 00:04:10,751 --> 00:04:12,884 She's gonna need a man. 117 00:04:12,953 --> 00:04:14,653 - I always kind of feel like the girl that cried wolf 118 00:04:14,722 --> 00:04:15,887 with my feelings. 119 00:04:15,956 --> 00:04:18,156 - I had a great exercise with my mom. 120 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:20,892 That's something that I think we really needed. 121 00:04:20,961 --> 00:04:22,160 Don't cry. 122 00:04:22,229 --> 00:04:23,762 - Who's the mom in the relationship? 123 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:24,796 - I feel like I am. 124 00:04:24,865 --> 00:04:26,298 - Because you're so [bleep] strong. 125 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:27,766 You always have been. 126 00:04:27,835 --> 00:04:28,900 - Good morning, Briana. 127 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:30,235 Good morning, Ashley. 128 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:31,470 - Tea tried to say good morning to me, 129 00:04:31,538 --> 00:04:32,904 but I didn't say anything back. 130 00:04:32,973 --> 00:04:34,239 I don't want to talk to them. 131 00:04:34,308 --> 00:04:35,707 I know the type of person that they are. 132 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:37,242 Fake as [bleep]. 133 00:04:37,311 --> 00:04:39,144 - Roxanne gon' keep trying me and I'ma push that bitch 134 00:04:39,213 --> 00:04:40,612 down there on the ground. 135 00:04:40,681 --> 00:04:42,347 - Your daughter's a bully. 136 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:44,316 - I'm coming for your mother[bleep] ass. 137 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:46,184 - [bleep] you, and [bleep] your mom. 138 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:50,088 - I'm not sure how we're gonna come back from this. 139 00:04:50,157 --> 00:04:53,358 - Oh, my God. You're kidding. - Wow. 140 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:54,526 - Wow. 141 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:56,261 - And obviously we do have to address 142 00:04:56,363 --> 00:04:57,796 the fight that took place. 143 00:04:57,865 --> 00:04:58,964 Any thoughts about that? 144 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:01,366 - To me the most, like, 145 00:05:01,435 --> 00:05:06,338 heartbreaking part was to see how defeated Bri looked. 146 00:05:06,407 --> 00:05:08,540 [voice breaking] And for somebody--mm, sorry. 147 00:05:08,609 --> 00:05:09,775 - No, don't be sorry. 148 00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:12,444 - Being somebody who struggles with, like, 149 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:15,047 controlling yourself or expressing your emotions, 150 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:17,215 it broke my heart. - Yeah. 151 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:19,985 - Everybody on the internet attack her. 152 00:05:20,054 --> 00:05:23,221 It pissed me off so bad, because 153 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,524 regardless, we're all moms. 154 00:05:25,592 --> 00:05:28,060 Her kids are gonna have to watch her get spit on. 155 00:05:28,128 --> 00:05:30,262 Ashley took no accountability. 156 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:32,631 And I don't care what they threw after the fact. 157 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:36,168 It's humiliating, and none of us deserves that. 158 00:05:36,236 --> 00:05:38,837 A much as we don't really [bleep] with Ashley like that, 159 00:05:38,906 --> 00:05:40,272 she doesn't even deserve that. 160 00:05:40,341 --> 00:05:42,874 And I'm so sorry that that happened to you, Bri, 161 00:05:42,943 --> 00:05:44,676 and, like, I felt so helpless. 162 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:45,844 Like, I really did. 163 00:05:45,913 --> 00:05:48,480 - Thank you. I appreciate that. 164 00:05:48,549 --> 00:05:51,950 - Everybody here knows, 'cause it was said many times, 165 00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:53,752 "Why do you think Ashley's never said 166 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:55,454 something about you compared to"-- 167 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:57,689 yeah, I don't know, but I'll tell you this right now. 168 00:05:57,758 --> 00:06:01,259 I'm disappointed, because I believe in this girl, 169 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:03,662 and I believe that she can change. 170 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:05,964 I say this because of what I've been through 171 00:06:06,033 --> 00:06:08,133 and how many bridges I've burned. 172 00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:09,835 - Right. - So I have to say that. 173 00:06:09,903 --> 00:06:12,037 But I am disappointed. 174 00:06:12,106 --> 00:06:13,839 - I know there are a lot of feeling about it. 175 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:16,074 And we are gonna hear from everybody. 176 00:06:16,143 --> 00:06:18,043 And we are gonna have Ashley and her mom 177 00:06:18,112 --> 00:06:20,679 to make sure that they have the space to share 178 00:06:20,748 --> 00:06:22,013 their thoughts, right? 179 00:06:22,082 --> 00:06:23,715 So let's switch gears for a second. 180 00:06:23,784 --> 00:06:26,284 Tiffany, for you, were you surprised that you revealed 181 00:06:26,353 --> 00:06:27,953 so much about your life? 182 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:29,254 - Yeah. 183 00:06:29,323 --> 00:06:31,790 I was so excited about this trip, being invited, 184 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:33,859 and I was like, "Whatever activity we're doing, 185 00:06:33,927 --> 00:06:35,794 let's do it; like, I want to do everything." 186 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:38,930 - Yeah. Christy, if you could do one thing over again 187 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:40,766 and do it differently what would it be? 188 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:42,434 - Not get COVID. 189 00:06:42,503 --> 00:06:43,635 - Right. - Hell yeah. 190 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:45,303 Hell yeah. - Yeah. 191 00:06:45,372 --> 00:06:46,738 - Hell yeah. - I was quarantined 192 00:06:46,807 --> 00:06:47,939 for six days, so I missed out on everything, but... 193 00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:49,408 - Uh-huh. - Yeah. 194 00:06:49,476 --> 00:06:52,144 - But it's amazing how quickly that you do build bonds 195 00:06:52,212 --> 00:06:55,580 with everybody, like, we love each other like family, so... 196 00:06:55,649 --> 00:06:57,048 - That's awesome. - Mm. 197 00:06:57,117 --> 00:06:58,550 - We need to take a quick break. 198 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:01,353 But more with all of these incredible moms when we return. 199 00:07:01,455 --> 00:07:04,956 [applause] 200 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:08,527 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 201 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,596 - I've never heard her say that she was sorry. 202 00:07:11,665 --> 00:07:12,831 - Later tonight... 203 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,666 - That didn't look like a bump to me. 204 00:07:14,735 --> 00:07:17,035 - Bumped or not, you don't spit on somebody. 205 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:19,004 - Yeah. - So... 206 00:07:19,072 --> 00:07:20,505 - Ugh. 207 00:07:20,574 --> 00:07:23,975 - As far as your commitment to Bentley as his father, 208 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:27,279 can you commit to be consistent? 209 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:28,947 - [sniffles] 210 00:07:29,016 --> 00:07:30,515 [dramatic music] 211 00:07:31,685 --> 00:07:34,486 [applause] 212 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:36,354 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 213 00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:37,656 The Aftermath." 214 00:07:37,724 --> 00:07:39,724 I'm now sitting here with Jade and Christy. 215 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:41,059 [applause] 216 00:07:41,128 --> 00:07:43,562 Jade, what was the biggest takeaway 217 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:46,264 from this experience at "Family Reunion"? 218 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,500 - I was kind of nervous bringing my mom, 219 00:07:48,569 --> 00:07:51,970 'cause I think she has a really big personality. 220 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:53,371 People either love or hate her, 221 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,274 'cause she's just so herself and just so opinionated 222 00:07:56,343 --> 00:07:57,943 and headstrong, and, like, 223 00:07:58,011 --> 00:07:59,978 some people can be a little intimidated by that 224 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:02,848 kind of, like, assertive kind of energy. 225 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:05,217 But everyone loved her 226 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:07,252 and had so much fun with her, so I was like, 227 00:08:07,321 --> 00:08:08,753 "Oh, great," like, 'cause I was like, 228 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:10,288 "This is gonna go one of two ways." 229 00:08:10,357 --> 00:08:14,226 And it went the best way, so I was--I was really happy. 230 00:08:14,294 --> 00:08:16,428 - Now, Jade, you shared a lot about your childhood. 231 00:08:16,497 --> 00:08:19,297 And it got really heavy when you shared, you know, 232 00:08:19,366 --> 00:08:21,933 what you went through and about your dad. 233 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,202 - My dad, you know, committing suicide 234 00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:25,904 when I was a child. 235 00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:27,873 Closure with my mom would be-- 236 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,474 having a good relationship, a happy one, 237 00:08:29,543 --> 00:08:31,676 that to me would be closure... 238 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:33,144 - From the past. - From the doors before, yes. 239 00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:34,246 - All, right. Okay. 240 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:36,648 - With my biological father, 241 00:08:36,717 --> 00:08:39,317 no one knows him, because he passed away so early, 242 00:08:39,386 --> 00:08:41,887 so I think me and my aunt hold this bond of, like, 243 00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:43,822 we can mourn him. 244 00:08:43,891 --> 00:08:46,658 - Why did you feel it was a safe space 245 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,326 to bring it up at "Family Reunion"? 246 00:08:48,395 --> 00:08:52,597 - I don't like having things, like, not talked about. 247 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:54,699 I feel like we're all so closed 248 00:08:54,801 --> 00:08:56,701 that I thought it was appropriate. 249 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:59,538 And also hearing Kiaya really voice about 250 00:08:59,606 --> 00:09:02,440 how she was going through things, you know, 251 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:04,943 certain, like, feelings of guilt, 252 00:09:05,012 --> 00:09:07,078 and, you know, sadness with her father, 253 00:09:07,147 --> 00:09:10,715 me and her can, like, relate in some aspect with that. 254 00:09:10,784 --> 00:09:14,286 It's so important to voice to the world, like, 255 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:16,021 about suicide, about depression, 256 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:18,523 about mental health is such a big thing. 257 00:09:18,592 --> 00:09:21,059 And stuff like this is real. 258 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:25,363 - Do you feel more comfortable talking about it now? 259 00:09:25,432 --> 00:09:27,732 - Yeah, 'cause I talk a lot with my aunt that, you know, 260 00:09:27,801 --> 00:09:29,801 knows so much about it, I mean, grew up in it, 261 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:30,835 and I can ask all these questions, 262 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,003 and I feel like with my mom 263 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:34,239 and, you know, my dad growing up 264 00:09:34,308 --> 00:09:36,641 I felt like it was rude of me to ask stuff, 265 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:38,243 because it was almost like 266 00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:40,679 I was gonna hurt my dad's feelings 267 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:42,681 by bringing up my biological dad. 268 00:09:42,749 --> 00:09:44,649 - I feel uncomfortable 269 00:09:44,718 --> 00:09:46,051 saying anything about him, period, 270 00:09:46,119 --> 00:09:49,087 because I didn't want to, like, upset you kind of. 271 00:09:49,156 --> 00:09:52,257 Well, we were together when he committed suicide, so, like, 272 00:09:52,326 --> 00:09:55,727 it--it, like, about-- oh, I mean, 273 00:09:55,796 --> 00:09:57,195 it really took it out of me, you know? 274 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:59,764 Like, I was 20 or 21. 275 00:09:59,866 --> 00:10:01,166 - I think it was, like, traumatic 276 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:03,902 for everybody involved, so... 277 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:05,303 [indistinct]. 278 00:10:05,372 --> 00:10:07,639 - I mean, me and him were very compatible. 279 00:10:07,708 --> 00:10:10,742 - Yeah. - And--no. 280 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:12,944 I don't want to say anything. 281 00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:16,681 - Well, I think if anything, when you guys go back home, 282 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:20,051 maybe this is a gateway to begin those conversations. 283 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,519 - Yeah. - Hopefully, right? 284 00:10:21,588 --> 00:10:22,687 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 285 00:10:22,756 --> 00:10:24,122 - One of the most emotional moments 286 00:10:24,191 --> 00:10:26,691 of this "Family Reunion" happened when Christy took part 287 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,260 in Coach B's Into the Mirror session. 288 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:31,062 Let's take a look back at what happened. 289 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:34,532 [gentle piano music] 290 00:10:34,601 --> 00:10:38,770 - How do you believe your drug addiction affected Jade? 291 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:42,207 - She seeing me giving up. 292 00:10:42,275 --> 00:10:43,375 - Yeah. 293 00:10:43,443 --> 00:10:44,476 Did you give up on being a mom? 294 00:10:44,544 --> 00:10:46,311 - I would say no, but... 295 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:48,013 - What do you think Jade would say? 296 00:10:48,081 --> 00:10:51,049 - I think that she might say yeah. 297 00:10:51,118 --> 00:10:53,518 - At what point do you plan on forgiving yourself 298 00:10:53,587 --> 00:10:56,187 for all this stuff, or do you ever want to? 299 00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:57,255 - I want to. 300 00:10:57,324 --> 00:10:58,890 - Look in here. 301 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:00,291 Jade... 302 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,660 - Jade... 303 00:11:01,728 --> 00:11:03,361 - I hope you can forgive me... 304 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:04,529 - I hope you can forgive me... 305 00:11:04,598 --> 00:11:06,097 - While I work on forgiving myself. 306 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:09,034 - While I work on forgiving myself. 307 00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:11,569 - My future plans for you are... 308 00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:13,672 - My future plans for you are... 309 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:18,910 to show you a good mom and good grandma 310 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:22,213 and build a better, stronger relationship. 311 00:11:22,282 --> 00:11:24,849 Jade, I'm sorry. 312 00:11:24,951 --> 00:11:30,488 ♪ ♪ 313 00:11:30,557 --> 00:11:32,957 - Jade, this is a huge healing moment. 314 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:36,261 How do you feel watching that right now? 315 00:11:36,329 --> 00:11:38,863 - I feel better, 'cause I've never heard her 316 00:11:38,965 --> 00:11:40,932 say that she was sorry. 317 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:42,767 There's been things that we've been through 318 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:47,939 that have, like, molded me and has changed me 319 00:11:48,008 --> 00:11:50,775 that have terrified me. 320 00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:57,916 And it's, like, I think she just packs it away 321 00:11:57,984 --> 00:12:00,652 and tries to, like, act like it never happened, 322 00:12:00,721 --> 00:12:05,290 so I'm, like, how do I heal... 323 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:10,295 when you don't talk about anything? 324 00:12:10,363 --> 00:12:11,830 - There's been a lot of reactions. 325 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:13,598 It's very emotional after watching that. 326 00:12:13,667 --> 00:12:16,601 Maci, what are your thoughts right now? 327 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:19,771 - Um... 328 00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:22,941 - I love you. 329 00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:24,809 - I just want to, like, hug Jade so tight that, 330 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:26,244 like, she explodes. 331 00:12:26,313 --> 00:12:28,079 - [laughs] - I love her so much. 332 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:31,916 And, Christy, you deserve to be happy, 333 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:35,353 and I think sometimes you don't think you do. 334 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,822 - Yeah, I think I watched her so long be unhappy 335 00:12:37,891 --> 00:12:39,924 that it's pissing me off now that, like, 336 00:12:39,993 --> 00:12:43,294 she's not that-- in that horrible state of, 337 00:12:43,363 --> 00:12:44,863 like, addiction, 338 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:46,798 and I still see you sad, and I'm, like, 339 00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:48,566 we missed out on so many happy times. 340 00:12:48,635 --> 00:12:50,135 - But--but it's not the end of everything. 341 00:12:50,203 --> 00:12:51,536 - I know that I want to make them, 342 00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:52,704 so I'm pushing her. - That's right. 343 00:12:52,773 --> 00:12:54,939 - I'm, like, let's make happy memories. 344 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:56,708 We're gonna make good memories, God damn it. 345 00:12:56,777 --> 00:12:58,376 - You guys are gonna make great memories. 346 00:12:58,445 --> 00:12:59,711 [applause] A round of applause 347 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,546 for great memories, please. 348 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:05,283 And just know you are loved and supported 100%, okay? 349 00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:06,985 - I know. Yeah. 350 00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:10,388 - When we come back, we'll turn our attention to Cate. 351 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:16,127 [applause] 352 00:13:16,196 --> 00:13:17,128 Up next... 353 00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,464 Hey, Cate, how did you feel? 354 00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:21,466 - My heart's literally racing with anxiety. 355 00:13:21,535 --> 00:13:23,034 - Okay, here we go. 356 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:24,602 ♪ ♪ 357 00:13:26,006 --> 00:13:28,239 [applause] 358 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:29,874 - We're back with "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 359 00:13:29,943 --> 00:13:30,875 The Aftermath." 360 00:13:30,944 --> 00:13:32,210 I'm now here with Cate. 361 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:34,179 - Hi. - Hi. 362 00:13:34,247 --> 00:13:35,446 - How are you? - So--I'm good. 363 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:37,515 You mom, April, is part of the series, 364 00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:39,083 but she's not here today. 365 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,252 - They had some family medical problems happen 366 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:42,887 with her father-in-law, so I understand. 367 00:13:42,956 --> 00:13:44,823 That's more important than this. 368 00:13:44,891 --> 00:13:46,024 - Mm-hmm. Yeah. 369 00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:47,625 - Now let's talk about bungee jumping. 370 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:48,960 You weren't a fan of it. 371 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:50,862 - Hell no. [laughter] 372 00:13:50,931 --> 00:13:52,430 - Why were you scared? Talk to us a bit. 373 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:53,631 - I don't know. 374 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:55,767 Literally, like, heights are my big-- 375 00:13:55,836 --> 00:13:57,335 one of my biggest fears. 376 00:13:57,404 --> 00:13:59,771 - Okay, so how did you talk yourself out of it? 377 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,708 - Um, it had a lot to do with, like, Amber and Maci. 378 00:14:03,777 --> 00:14:05,977 Um, I would say, like, 379 00:14:06,046 --> 00:14:07,946 Maci was very much like, "I promise you"-- 380 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:09,881 she's like, "I would tell you if the [bleep] was dumb 381 00:14:09,950 --> 00:14:11,149 and scary as [bleep], don't do it." 382 00:14:11,218 --> 00:14:12,884 She was like, "If you don't do it, 383 00:14:12,953 --> 00:14:14,519 you're gonna regret not doing it." 384 00:14:14,588 --> 00:14:15,787 And Amber was, like, the same way. 385 00:14:15,856 --> 00:14:17,222 She's like, "And it was so freeing," 386 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:18,590 and, like, all this stuff. 387 00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:20,792 And then I was thinking of how many times in my life 388 00:14:20,861 --> 00:14:23,628 have I been scared to do something and not do it 389 00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:25,063 and then regretted it? 390 00:14:25,131 --> 00:14:27,999 Or, like, how many times maybe I've held myself back 391 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,168 by not stepping out of my comfort zone? 392 00:14:30,237 --> 00:14:31,603 Which has been a lot. 393 00:14:31,671 --> 00:14:33,204 - How proud were you 394 00:14:33,273 --> 00:14:34,739 when you saw Cate do it? - I was so proud of her. 395 00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:36,007 - Oh, my gosh. - Oh, my gosh. 396 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:38,676 We--I was, like, screaming... 397 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:40,411 - Yes. - Over the thing, like--- 398 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,580 - I feel like we almost fell over. 399 00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:44,115 - Yeah. - 'Cause we were like, 400 00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:45,783 "Oh, my gosh. You did it." - Oh, man. 401 00:14:45,852 --> 00:14:49,053 - Oh, I knew she-- like, as soon as she did it 402 00:14:49,122 --> 00:14:51,122 she was gonna be like, "[bleep] yeah." 403 00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:52,557 - Yeah, it was good. 404 00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:55,326 - Okay, well, there was concern that April's drinking 405 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:59,130 negatively affected Cate during her time in Oregon, 406 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,532 especially when it came to the Unstuck activity. 407 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:03,902 Let's take a look back at that moment. 408 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:05,837 [gentle music] 409 00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:07,839 - What is it that we're working on with Mom 410 00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:09,540 that you want to address? 411 00:15:09,609 --> 00:15:12,844 - I feel like sometimes when I express my true feelings 412 00:15:12,913 --> 00:15:15,980 and how I feel she'll throw my husband in the mix 413 00:15:16,049 --> 00:15:18,483 and be like, "Oh, that's what Tyler would tell you to do." 414 00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:21,452 - So then she gaslights you to make you think that 415 00:15:21,521 --> 00:15:23,454 your opinions are coming from somebody else. 416 00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:25,490 - Yes. And so for me, 417 00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:27,525 it comes from a point of, like, just realize that 418 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,461 you raised a strong [bleep] woman. 419 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:32,230 - I don't worry about you, 420 00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:33,831 because you're so [bleep] strong 421 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,600 I don't have to worry about you. 422 00:15:35,669 --> 00:15:38,603 And you wanted [bleep] rules... - Stay--Cate, there. 423 00:15:38,672 --> 00:15:41,005 Cate, stay there. Stay there. 424 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:42,774 There--and you just gave up on her. 425 00:15:42,842 --> 00:15:45,243 Cate, how did it feel when she dropped the rope? 426 00:15:45,312 --> 00:15:47,378 - That she was, like, mad and upset at me. 427 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,314 - 'Cause that's my reaction. 428 00:15:49,382 --> 00:15:53,718 - Gently pull her in at a pace that will work for her. 429 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:54,819 Can you do that? 430 00:15:54,888 --> 00:15:56,321 - Yep. 431 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:58,456 Come on, baby. Come on. 432 00:15:58,525 --> 00:16:00,058 I got you. 433 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,592 I got you. 434 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,529 I freaking got you. - I know, Mom. 435 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:07,865 - Okay, Cate, talk to me a little bit about that moment. 436 00:16:07,934 --> 00:16:10,535 How did you feel? 437 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:14,038 - Um, I felt powerful in that moment, 438 00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:16,074 like, saying things to her 439 00:16:16,176 --> 00:16:18,643 that I've never told her before. 440 00:16:18,712 --> 00:16:20,712 I mean, watching it back, my heart's literally racing 441 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:22,280 with anxiety. 442 00:16:22,349 --> 00:16:25,049 I need to work better at, like, just expressing my feelings 443 00:16:25,118 --> 00:16:27,251 and emotions to her and not protecting 444 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,553 how it affects her. 445 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:30,722 The first time I notice it was at "Family Reunion," 446 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:33,691 but anytime I would say something to her 447 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,793 about how I felt, like, negatively, like, 448 00:16:35,862 --> 00:16:37,595 "Hey, when you did this it really hurt my feelings 449 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,864 or I was really sad or I felt abandoned," 450 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:41,132 I would always start with, 451 00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:42,967 "I know you did the best you could," 452 00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:45,970 so I'm always, like, subconsciously trying to, like, 453 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:46,971 protect her feelings 454 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,140 like I'm the parent almost. 455 00:16:49,209 --> 00:16:51,542 - Do you--was she-- was your mom drinking 456 00:16:51,611 --> 00:16:52,744 at that point, do you know? 457 00:16:52,812 --> 00:16:54,312 - Oh, yeah. We both were. 458 00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:57,281 My mom has always said, like, when she drinks she gets very-- 459 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:58,816 it brings out confidence in her. 460 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:00,385 My mom's not a very confident person. 461 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,388 Also when my mom drinks, like, if you don't do the right thing 462 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:05,289 or if you say something 463 00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:07,158 she can become very nasty. 464 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:08,459 So... - Yeah. 465 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:10,995 - Mm-hmm. - Now, for the other moms, 466 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:13,331 how was it for you to see Cate and her mom 467 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,100 in their interaction during the Unstuck activity? 468 00:17:16,169 --> 00:17:19,270 - I feel like I kind of felt everything Cate was. 469 00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:22,774 Like, when I realized that Cate was gonna go there, 470 00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:26,210 I was like--and I-- truth be told, 471 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:29,514 I was saying like, "I really hope Cate goes there. 472 00:17:29,582 --> 00:17:31,115 Like, I hope she goes all the way in." 473 00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:34,085 She will not say her feelings 474 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:36,120 to spare someone else's feelings. 475 00:17:36,189 --> 00:17:38,723 - So were you happy to see Cate stand up for herself 476 00:17:38,792 --> 00:17:39,757 and her feelings? 477 00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:42,126 - Very happy. - Got it. 478 00:17:42,195 --> 00:17:44,095 Cate was so upset after Unstuck 479 00:17:44,164 --> 00:17:45,430 that she called her husband Tyler 480 00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:47,331 to come to Oregon and be there for her. 481 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,599 And to hear about what he went through 482 00:17:48,668 --> 00:17:51,035 after he arrived, please welcome Tyler. 483 00:17:51,104 --> 00:17:52,303 [applause] 484 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:55,006 - Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, all these ladies. 485 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,774 Hey, how's it going, Nessa? - Nice to see you. 486 00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:59,143 - How's it going? Hey, yeah, yeah, here we are. 487 00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:00,778 - So, Ty, when you got the call from Cate, 488 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:04,082 did you know immediately what she was going through? 489 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:05,616 - Oh, yeah. I could hear it in her voice. 490 00:18:05,685 --> 00:18:07,051 And it's funny, because we had this thing where it's, like, 491 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,554 the moment she was like, "Hello," I was like, "Hello." 492 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:11,189 And I could just-- she broke down, 493 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:14,025 and I was like, "Okay, um, here we go. 494 00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:15,726 "Like, let's--let's-- we gotta get in go mode. 495 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:16,961 "What's happening over there? 496 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:18,529 "Like, how are they taking caring of you? 497 00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:19,664 Like, what's happening?" - Yeah. 498 00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,032 He was actually the one too, though, 499 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:22,433 who brought it to my attention, 'cause I was like, 500 00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:23,568 "I don't know why I'm waking up 501 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:25,636 with all this panic and anxiety." 502 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:27,605 And he was the one who brought it to my attention. 503 00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:28,906 He's like, "Give yourself a little grace. 504 00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,075 "You did just open up some really deep stuff 505 00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:32,810 with your mom yesterday." 506 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:35,546 - So, Cate, how did Ty's presence 507 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:38,649 improve the situation between you and your mom? 508 00:18:38,718 --> 00:18:41,018 - Um, it didn't improve the situation 509 00:18:41,087 --> 00:18:42,086 between me and my mom. 510 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:43,921 I think it just helped me process 511 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:45,990 where this anxiety was coming from. 512 00:18:46,059 --> 00:18:47,959 He has been on this walk with me 513 00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:50,261 through my mental health journey from the beginning. 514 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:52,029 You know, like, Ty and I might be married, 515 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:54,332 but we're also, like, best [bleep] friends. 516 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,070 So, like, he's my, like, my--my support person, 517 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,372 and, like, I just feel ten times better after, like, 518 00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:02,974 processing things with him of, like, 519 00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,075 why am I feeling like this? 520 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:05,776 What--what could be bringing this up? 521 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,778 Like, you know, or sometimes you just want 522 00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:10,481 that special person when you're super anxious or depressed, 523 00:19:10,550 --> 00:19:13,017 like, I just want to be held so I can cry and I feel safe, 524 00:19:13,086 --> 00:19:14,185 you know, like, so it just-- 525 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:15,987 it really just-- it helped me a lot 526 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:17,522 to be able to process things that were going on. 527 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,223 - Yeah, that's why I knew. I was, like, all right, 528 00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:21,526 on a plane, we gotta go. Wife's freaking out. 529 00:19:21,594 --> 00:19:22,927 Like, what are they doing for her over there? 530 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:25,062 Like, and plus, I'm on the other side of the country. 531 00:19:25,131 --> 00:19:26,864 I don't know what's going on with the, you know... 532 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:28,299 - Right. - Behind the scenes and stuff. 533 00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:29,467 So yeah, I was nervous. 534 00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:31,402 - Another thing that upset you, Ty, 535 00:19:31,471 --> 00:19:34,438 during this family reunion was the dirty kitchen. 536 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:35,439 - [laughs] 537 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:36,741 Yo! - Oh, my God. 538 00:19:36,809 --> 00:19:38,409 - Listen-- - Are you a neat freak? 539 00:19:38,478 --> 00:19:40,645 - No, I ain't, really. I'm not. 540 00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:42,246 I mean, you know-- - You were upset. 541 00:19:42,315 --> 00:19:44,515 - It was crazy. I sweeped the whole house, 542 00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:46,751 and then I go in the kitchen. I'm, like, what the [bleep]? 543 00:19:46,819 --> 00:19:48,085 - And then he's like, "Are you guys all animals?" 544 00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:49,854 - I said, "You guys party hard as hell." 545 00:19:49,923 --> 00:19:52,223 I said, "Damn, this is worse than a bachelor pad. 546 00:19:52,292 --> 00:19:54,525 Holy [bleep]." Yeah, I had to start cleaning. 547 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:56,994 - So do all the moms agree that the kitchen was dirty? 548 00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:59,030 - I can say-- I'm with you, man. 549 00:19:59,098 --> 00:20:01,098 - Yeah, you saw. - I bought so many white socks, 550 00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:02,967 and they were black by the time I left. 551 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:03,935 And it was ridiculous. - Yo. 552 00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:06,437 - But I can say, though, 553 00:20:06,506 --> 00:20:08,239 we did attempt to clean the kitchen. 554 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:09,774 - We did. - Were you guys drunk? 555 00:20:09,842 --> 00:20:12,543 - We was told that someone was gonna come in and clean it. 556 00:20:12,612 --> 00:20:14,712 So we just let it sit there, 'cause we had stuff to do. 557 00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:15,746 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 558 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,815 - Oh. - But it was dirty, Ty. 559 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:19,050 - Maybe it was a setup. 560 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,552 Maybe they just-- - No, we still got it done. 561 00:20:21,621 --> 00:20:22,653 - Oh, okay. - It was just annoying, 562 00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:24,589 I think, to everyone all the time. 563 00:20:24,657 --> 00:20:26,991 - That situation did happen the same day as the mud day, 564 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:29,527 so it was the next day having the fight in the mud. 565 00:20:29,596 --> 00:20:31,095 - Yo. - You guys couldn't get to it. 566 00:20:31,164 --> 00:20:32,263 - Hell, no, we couldn't. - Yeah, yeah, [bleep]. 567 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:34,665 [all speaking at once] 568 00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:36,867 - There was a lot going on. Fair enough. 569 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:38,035 - Can't drink my coffee in filth 570 00:20:38,104 --> 00:20:39,370 so I had to start cleaning. 571 00:20:39,439 --> 00:20:41,172 - My mom was trying to wash the dishes, though. 572 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:43,341 - Thank you so much, Cate. Thank you so much, Ty. 573 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:44,742 It's always great to see you two. 574 00:20:44,811 --> 00:20:46,744 I appreciate you both being here. 575 00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:49,113 We'll be back right after this. 576 00:20:49,182 --> 00:20:53,084 [applause] 577 00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:56,454 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 578 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:59,790 Was that surprising to any of the other moms. 579 00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:03,127 - I mean, yeah, the spitting part definitely. 580 00:21:03,196 --> 00:21:06,163 - Ugh. Ugh. 581 00:21:06,232 --> 00:21:07,965 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 582 00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,333 - Wait, hold on. Bri, wait. 583 00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:10,901 - What is happening though? 584 00:21:13,172 --> 00:21:15,239 [applause] 585 00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:17,041 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 586 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:18,409 The Aftermath." 587 00:21:18,478 --> 00:21:20,144 This season of "Family Reunion" featured one of 588 00:21:20,213 --> 00:21:22,813 the biggest fights in the history of "Teen Mom." 589 00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:25,416 It was a huge blowup between Ashley and her mom Tea 590 00:21:25,485 --> 00:21:27,518 and Briana and her mom Roxanne. 591 00:21:27,587 --> 00:21:29,820 And now we'd like to hear from the rest of the cast. 592 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:31,289 But before we get into it, 593 00:21:31,357 --> 00:21:33,758 let's take a look back at what went down. 594 00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:36,761 [gentle music] 595 00:21:36,829 --> 00:21:38,396 ♪ ♪ 596 00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:39,530 - What's the problem, Roxanne? - I don't want to watch this. 597 00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:41,999 - The problem is that your daughter 598 00:21:42,068 --> 00:21:44,001 inserted herself in a situation 599 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:45,936 that she had no business inserting herself. 600 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,372 No, she had not business to do what she did. 601 00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:50,107 She was so [bleep] disrespectful. 602 00:21:50,209 --> 00:21:51,375 Shame on her. 603 00:21:51,444 --> 00:21:52,943 My daughter would never talk to any mother 604 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:54,478 in this [bleep] table 605 00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:57,048 the way your daughter speaks to me. 606 00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:58,416 - Well, Roxanne-- - I don't want to hear it. 607 00:21:58,484 --> 00:21:59,784 - Roxanne-- - You have nothing to say 608 00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:00,651 to me-- - I don't give 609 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,119 a [bleep], bitch. 610 00:22:02,188 --> 00:22:04,055 - No, you hold on. - I don't give a [bleep]. 611 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:05,589 I don't give a [bleep]. 612 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:07,358 - [indistinct shouting] - I don't give a [bleep]. 613 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:09,760 - Mom. - I don't give a [bleep]. 614 00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:11,829 I don't-- - [bleep] you, ho. 615 00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:13,698 - No, [bleep] you. - Bitch! 616 00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,533 - I can't. I can't. 617 00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:16,901 - Oh, you can say "excuse me." 618 00:22:16,969 --> 00:22:18,502 - Stop. Stop being so dramatic. 619 00:22:18,571 --> 00:22:20,905 - You bump me, I'ma grab your mother[bleep] ass then. 620 00:22:20,973 --> 00:22:22,973 - Shut up. Ugh. - I didn't bump you. 621 00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:24,909 - You did. - No. 622 00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:26,877 - You did, [bleep]. - Mother, you don't know. 623 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,412 - Bri was actually trying to be really cordial. 624 00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:29,714 - [bleep], you stop with the [bleep]. 625 00:22:29,782 --> 00:22:31,115 - No, you stop with the [bleep]. 626 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,284 - No, 'cause if y'all want to go toes, we really can. 627 00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:34,618 - I'm [bleep] pissed. - We really can. 628 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:36,420 - Let's go. Let's go. - [bleep] this bitch. 629 00:22:36,489 --> 00:22:38,622 - Let's go. 'Cause they don't want that. Let's go. 630 00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,958 - We really can. - Come on. Out we go. 631 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:42,059 - Why you up there? - Let's go. Let's go. 632 00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:43,961 - Get down, baby. Get down. - Go. 633 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:45,996 - Bri, hell the [bleep] no. 634 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:47,431 - Let's go. - Get down, [bleep]. 635 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:48,999 - No, so I could kick you in your [bleep] throat. 636 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,801 - Get down. 'Cause you can't fight? 637 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,370 - No, [bleep] you, bitch. - 'Cause you can't fight? 638 00:22:52,438 --> 00:22:53,437 - [bleep] you. - Get down. 639 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:55,406 - [bleep] my [bleep], Ash. - [spits] 640 00:22:55,475 --> 00:22:57,641 [dramatic music] - Ew. 641 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,776 - Bitch. 642 00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:02,947 [all shouting] 643 00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:05,116 - Come on, bitch. - [bleep] you. 644 00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:06,851 - Oh, you want to throw? - [bleep]. 645 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:08,152 - You want to throw, bitch? 646 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:09,553 - [bleep] you. [bleep] you. 647 00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:11,222 - I'm not even-- I'm not doing this. 648 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:12,923 Let's go. I'm not doing this. 649 00:23:12,992 --> 00:23:14,725 I'm not feeding this bitch anything. 650 00:23:14,794 --> 00:23:16,193 - Mom, stay here. Come on. - No, I'm done. 651 00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:17,461 I'm going home. - 'Cause we have-- 652 00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:19,797 - I'm not doing it. I'm [bleep] going home. 653 00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:22,032 That [bleep] pissed me off seeing it again. 654 00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:23,634 - Ugh. Ugh. 655 00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:25,002 - So did that look like a bump to y'all? 656 00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:28,139 It just looked like she just grazed past her. 657 00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:29,774 That didn't look like a bump to me. 658 00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:31,509 - At the end of the day-- - Can we replay it? 659 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:33,110 'Cause it didn't look like a bump to me. 660 00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:34,945 - I didn't--yeah, I wasn't sure. 661 00:23:35,014 --> 00:23:36,680 - It just looked like she just, like, you know, 662 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,416 you too close to somebody. - Bumped or not, 663 00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:42,219 you don't spit on somebody, so that's-- 664 00:23:42,288 --> 00:23:43,687 - We're gonna go to-- - I want to go to the hotel. 665 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:44,922 I'm gonna go home. 666 00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:46,257 I'm not doing this [bleep] with that bitch 667 00:23:46,325 --> 00:23:48,192 after watching that [bleep]. - Where did my shoes go? 668 00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:50,127 - I guess, Kiaya, for you, 669 00:23:50,196 --> 00:23:51,729 how do you feel after watching that? 670 00:23:51,798 --> 00:23:53,464 - That makes me not want to deal with 671 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:54,832 that type of person at all. 672 00:23:54,901 --> 00:23:57,034 And I don't think that they're genuine people. 673 00:23:57,103 --> 00:23:59,737 I think that both of them lack maturity. 674 00:23:59,806 --> 00:24:03,307 I think we can all agree that Ashley is a smart girl. 675 00:24:03,376 --> 00:24:06,310 And I just feel like she [bleep] herself up a lot. 676 00:24:06,379 --> 00:24:09,880 Like, I feel like she digs herself in a lot of holes 677 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:12,783 - Was that surprising to any of the other moms? 678 00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:13,951 - I mean... - The spitting? 679 00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:15,186 - Yeah, the spitting part definitely. 680 00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:16,620 - That part. 681 00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:18,522 - It's kind of like the Farrah situation all over again. 682 00:24:18,591 --> 00:24:19,957 - Yep. 683 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:22,159 - Because now she gets to come onstage by herself 684 00:24:22,228 --> 00:24:24,929 and not deal with the accountability 685 00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:26,730 or listen to what people have to say 686 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,133 and then paint this own picture like she has been doing 687 00:24:29,202 --> 00:24:30,801 that she's the victim. 688 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:32,770 And that's not fair. 689 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,638 - Hey, me and my mom are gonna leave. 690 00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:36,040 - Wait, hold on, Bri. Wait, hold on. 691 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:37,274 - What is happening? - Just at least tell me 692 00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:39,610 what happened so I can-- just at least tell me. 693 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:40,644 - What's going on? 694 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:42,713 - I think my mom deserves to speak. 695 00:24:42,782 --> 00:24:44,548 - From my understanding, you and your mom 696 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:46,383 have your own act coming up. 697 00:24:46,452 --> 00:24:47,384 - We're not on the couch. It's just too much. 698 00:24:47,453 --> 00:24:48,452 - No, no, no, no, no. Bri, 699 00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:49,820 you and your mom have your own-- 700 00:24:49,889 --> 00:24:51,288 - It doesn't matter. None of that matters. 701 00:24:51,357 --> 00:24:53,057 - But, Bri, we all have your back; I hope you know that. 702 00:24:53,125 --> 00:24:54,859 - Yeah, I understand that, but right now 703 00:24:54,927 --> 00:24:56,393 my mom is frustrated. 704 00:24:56,462 --> 00:24:57,962 - Okay. - Oh, no. 705 00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,730 - But you guys have your own act. 706 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:01,398 - It's just too much. 707 00:25:01,467 --> 00:25:03,133 I love you guys, and I'll see you guys at the hotel. 708 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:04,435 - We love you too. - We love you too. 709 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:06,937 - Love you. - Love you too, Bri. 710 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:08,205 - What just happened? 711 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,509 - I mean, honestly, we weren't in the fight. 712 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:13,878 This isn't our conversation. - Yeah. 713 00:25:13,946 --> 00:25:16,480 - This is a conversation that if we're gonna be a part of 714 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:18,115 and put our input into... - Everybody should. 715 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:19,650 - Everybody should be present. 716 00:25:19,719 --> 00:25:21,385 Bri and Roxanne should be here. 717 00:25:21,454 --> 00:25:23,020 - Why in the hell would Bri not be present? 718 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:25,356 - So I'm not gonna sit here and speak on Bri 719 00:25:25,458 --> 00:25:27,424 and how she may or may not feel. 720 00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:30,194 I'm not gonna speak on Ashley on how she may not feel. 721 00:25:30,263 --> 00:25:32,329 I wasn't in the fight. I didn't get spit on. 722 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:33,697 I wasn't the person who spit. 723 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,299 - I think they wanted to know how you guys felt, 724 00:25:35,368 --> 00:25:36,700 because you were there. 725 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:39,770 But they have their own act, just so everyone's aware. 726 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,238 All right, let's pause right here. 727 00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:43,073 And we'll be back right after this. 728 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:46,977 [applause] 729 00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:50,381 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 730 00:25:50,483 --> 00:25:51,382 The Aftermath." 731 00:25:51,484 --> 00:25:52,750 Let's get back into it. 732 00:25:52,818 --> 00:25:54,184 I don't know if there's a different way to look 733 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:55,419 at the situation. 734 00:25:55,488 --> 00:25:59,290 Maybe is there any understanding or grace 735 00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:02,326 that maybe Ashley might have had 736 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:03,561 different feelings at the time. 737 00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:06,030 She was pregnant. both: No. 738 00:26:06,699 --> 00:26:08,799 - We got sent home for that [bleep] bitch 739 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:10,334 spitting on my daughter. 740 00:26:10,403 --> 00:26:12,002 That's [bleep] shady, and then we have to wait 741 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,706 the whole day to anticipate the worst. 742 00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:17,575 You can't pull people's strings like that. 743 00:26:17,643 --> 00:26:18,909 That's wrong. - Wait, Roxanne. 744 00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:20,311 - Lets'-- let's hear from Tiffany. 745 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:22,279 - Sorry, but then you go home and go on social media 746 00:26:22,348 --> 00:26:24,214 and talk about that girl's kids. 747 00:26:24,283 --> 00:26:26,884 Your family talks about her kids. 748 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,285 - Body shaming them too. 749 00:26:28,354 --> 00:26:30,120 - Babies, and body shaming. - Body shaming the kids? 750 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:32,423 - Why would-- - No, the girls. 751 00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:33,691 - Jade and Bri and... 752 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,926 - I think Ashley's sister called Bri's kids-- 753 00:26:35,995 --> 00:26:37,528 - Mismatch. - Mismatch. 754 00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:38,996 - Because she has two... - Mix-matched. 755 00:26:39,065 --> 00:26:40,898 - Baby daddies, so I just-- 756 00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:42,700 I guess I'm mismatched too, 'cause... 757 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:43,734 - I'm mismatched too. Don't wanna lie. 758 00:26:43,803 --> 00:26:44,935 - I got two baby daddies. 759 00:26:45,004 --> 00:26:46,337 - I think everybody in here mismatched. 760 00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:49,640 Well, Margaret, you're usually the voice of reason. 761 00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:52,810 - I was just really sad that the situation happened 762 00:26:52,878 --> 00:26:55,913 from the standpoint of the girls. 763 00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:58,148 All of them endure so much. 764 00:26:58,217 --> 00:26:59,583 It was just sad. 765 00:26:59,652 --> 00:27:03,087 I think what bothered me more is that as a mom, and... 766 00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:06,323 - Yeah. - We know what they all endure. 767 00:27:06,392 --> 00:27:09,026 So another mother should not do that. 768 00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:11,195 We've got to do better. both: Yeah. 769 00:27:11,263 --> 00:27:12,396 - It's sad. 770 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,098 She spit my daughter in the face. 771 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,466 She's the one that got rowdy. 772 00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,601 She's the one that invited the fight. 773 00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:21,338 What the [bleep]? 774 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:22,840 - So let me ask you-- 775 00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:24,575 let me ask the moms and the grandmas this. 776 00:27:24,644 --> 00:27:26,910 Do we see any possible healing in this? 777 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:28,012 [together] No. 778 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,546 - Seriously. - 'Cause she doesn't-- 779 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:31,215 because she doesn't take accountability. 780 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:34,451 - If Ashley was to come back on the show 781 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,321 right now in the reunion or next season, 782 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:39,490 then what does that look like for you ladies and 783 00:27:39,592 --> 00:27:41,091 how do you coexist? 784 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,160 How do we resolve? How does that look? 785 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:45,863 - I think some people are so comfortable in dysfunction 786 00:27:45,931 --> 00:27:48,298 that dysfunction is just normal. 787 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:49,500 - Okay. - Coach B, let me ask you. 788 00:27:49,568 --> 00:27:52,169 Do you think there's a road to healing? 789 00:27:52,238 --> 00:27:53,604 - I think that there's a road to healing. 790 00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:55,172 Do I think it's gonna happen tonight on this reunion? 791 00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:56,206 No. 792 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,108 And so again it's a process. 793 00:27:58,177 --> 00:27:59,410 I don't think it's something that we can have 794 00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:01,912 one conversation with 795 00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:04,181 and then, you know, Ashley is gonna just say, 796 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,250 "Hey, you know, I'm just gonna apologize, 797 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:07,818 take accountability, and then I'm gonna shift up 798 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,720 a lot of the things I've been knowing all my life. 799 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:12,956 - I think we joined this show-- I know for myself-- 800 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,325 to share my story and to... - Yep. 801 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:18,028 - Be able to just have one person relate 802 00:28:18,097 --> 00:28:20,898 and reach out and say, "Thank you for sharing 803 00:28:20,966 --> 00:28:23,400 "the deepest and darkest moments and all your secrets, 804 00:28:23,469 --> 00:28:25,636 because you're helping me get through mine." 805 00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:28,672 I didn't sign up to get attacked online 806 00:28:28,741 --> 00:28:32,176 or through podcasts or through online bullying. 807 00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:35,012 I'm here to share my story, and that's it. 808 00:28:35,081 --> 00:28:36,113 We're in an environment that's around... 809 00:28:36,182 --> 00:28:37,681 - Interact-- very interactive. 810 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:39,416 - Everyone, and the whole point, 811 00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:41,151 it's called "Family Reunion." 812 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,487 We're supposed to do things together. 813 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:45,956 - As a family. - I would not feel safe. 814 00:28:46,025 --> 00:28:47,391 I wouldn't feel comfortable. 815 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,893 Because I don't know if one day you're gonna flip 816 00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:51,228 and then you're spitting on me. 817 00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:52,996 I wouldn't even put myself in that situation. 818 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,133 So if we did it again, I would have to decline. 819 00:28:56,202 --> 00:28:58,602 I don't think I would do another show with her. 820 00:28:58,671 --> 00:29:01,505 I mean, I know I wouldn't do another show with her. 821 00:29:01,574 --> 00:29:04,708 - As her mom, if they were coming, 822 00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:07,010 I'd be uncomfortable. 823 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,014 Because physical violence to me is just no. 824 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,083 - A no-go. - A no-go. 825 00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:14,351 We can't have that. 826 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,253 That's dangerous. It was really ugly. 827 00:29:16,322 --> 00:29:18,722 - And that's why, Margaret, that they didn't want 828 00:29:18,791 --> 00:29:19,723 everyone onstage. 829 00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:21,825 - Yeah. No, I understand. 830 00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:25,195 I'm praying for them, and I pray that they're fine. 831 00:29:25,264 --> 00:29:27,731 But I don't want any of these girls now-- 832 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,899 now we're all family. 833 00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:30,367 - Right, yes. - So I don't want to see 834 00:29:30,436 --> 00:29:33,804 anyone hurt, and that was dangerous. 835 00:29:33,873 --> 00:29:35,739 - And we do have Roxanne and Briana here. 836 00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:37,808 And I want to make sure that they have 837 00:29:37,877 --> 00:29:41,311 their space to share their thoughts. 838 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:43,614 And we'll hear from them after the break. 839 00:29:43,716 --> 00:29:46,450 [dramatic music] 840 00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,120 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 841 00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:51,622 - I don't to be a part of it. 842 00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:52,689 I don't want to be near her. 843 00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:54,458 If we do another one of these 844 00:29:54,527 --> 00:29:56,794 and she's invited I will not come. 845 00:29:56,862 --> 00:29:59,229 So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go. 846 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:01,431 - What part of the relationship 847 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,534 is your heart saying you miss with Bentley? 848 00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:05,068 - Hell, just raising him. 849 00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:09,740 [cheers and applause] 850 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:11,742 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 851 00:30:11,811 --> 00:30:13,277 The Aftermath." 852 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:15,946 I'm joined on the couch now by Briana and her mom Roxanne. 853 00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,381 [applause] 854 00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:21,785 Okay, so there was a reaction from the both of you 855 00:30:21,854 --> 00:30:25,088 during the last segment after the footage was aired. 856 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,558 You both were out the door already. 857 00:30:27,626 --> 00:30:29,993 - Yeah. - What made you come back? 858 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,629 - Larry. - Morgan. 859 00:30:32,698 --> 00:30:35,532 - So Larry and Morgan are producers of the show, 860 00:30:35,601 --> 00:30:37,401 so tell us what they said. 861 00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:39,169 - They have a way with their words. 862 00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:42,306 - Yeah, they were understanding and compassionate 863 00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,675 of the reaction that we had after watching the-- 864 00:30:44,743 --> 00:30:46,443 watching that for the first time. 865 00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:47,711 - Okay, well-- - Yeah. 866 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:49,813 - That what I want to kind of talk about. 867 00:30:49,882 --> 00:30:52,416 - Right. - So it comes on. 868 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:53,784 You're watching in the back. 869 00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:55,352 What comes up for you? 870 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:56,854 - Just anger. 871 00:30:56,922 --> 00:31:00,757 'Cause I wish--I saw myself, and I was just so calm. 872 00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:04,461 Seeing her so aggressive and me so calm, 873 00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:06,797 I wish I matched her energy. 874 00:31:06,866 --> 00:31:08,532 She is such a nasty person, 875 00:31:08,601 --> 00:31:11,068 and that's just the only thing that comes out of me 876 00:31:11,136 --> 00:31:12,502 when I see her. 877 00:31:12,571 --> 00:31:17,107 - So when you set up on top of the counter, right, 878 00:31:17,176 --> 00:31:18,342 you don't feel like you kind of matched 879 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,143 her energy a little bit there? 880 00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:21,345 You feel like that was still being calm? 881 00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:22,312 - In the moment. - I feel like there was 882 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:23,714 so much more to it. 883 00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:26,149 Like, the clip just didn't justify, 884 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,485 like, what really occurred. 885 00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:30,687 Like, there was just so much. 886 00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:32,155 But watching it, it's, like, 887 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:34,691 there was no reason for me to get sent home. 888 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,194 - I feel like a lot of the trigger was, 889 00:31:37,263 --> 00:31:38,295 "Wait a minute. 890 00:31:38,364 --> 00:31:40,063 If I was gonna get sent home..." 891 00:31:40,132 --> 00:31:42,266 - I should have just [bleep] her up. 892 00:31:42,334 --> 00:31:44,902 - So when you hopped on top of the table, 893 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,303 that was before or after? 894 00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:48,105 'Cause I'm trying to see-- - That was before 895 00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:49,506 she spit at me. - Okay, I got it. 896 00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:52,042 - I think her way to get to me because I was so high 897 00:31:52,111 --> 00:31:53,844 was to spit on me. 898 00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:55,913 - So much happened so fast. 899 00:31:55,981 --> 00:31:58,081 - Like, it took a second for it to register, like, 900 00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,383 did I just get spit on? 901 00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:02,319 Like, I don't even know where it went. 902 00:32:02,388 --> 00:32:04,354 - What caused all this friction? 903 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:05,689 - Because Ashley doesn't know how to 904 00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:07,257 mind her [bleep] business. 905 00:32:07,326 --> 00:32:09,526 She's friends with Miss [bleep] Irrelevant, 906 00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:12,729 but whatever problems I have with the bitch that sued me, 907 00:32:12,798 --> 00:32:15,332 Ashley always wants to chime in, comment, 908 00:32:15,401 --> 00:32:16,900 say all these things, and her mom wants to 909 00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:19,036 talk [bleep] about me and my sex life. 910 00:32:19,104 --> 00:32:21,371 Like, it was a whole bunch of stuff. 911 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,006 She's so notorious for going online 912 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:24,741 and talking [bleep]. 913 00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:27,144 - You know, when the argument was between the girls 914 00:32:27,212 --> 00:32:29,880 on social media, fine, whatever. 915 00:32:29,949 --> 00:32:32,516 But when I realized that the mom now 916 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:33,951 has spoken about other girls, 917 00:32:34,019 --> 00:32:35,719 and now she's talking about my daughter, 918 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:38,288 I knew that at some point I'm gonna address her. 919 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,524 And the worst part was this to me: 920 00:32:40,592 --> 00:32:43,360 you go--you show up at "Family Reunion." 921 00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,996 You're, like, chipping away and just trying to smile 922 00:32:46,065 --> 00:32:47,998 and fit in wherever anybody just-- 923 00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:49,967 - Fake as [bleep]. Yeah. 924 00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:51,268 - Wherever anybody pets you a little, 925 00:32:51,337 --> 00:32:53,170 you just gonna wiggle your way in. 926 00:32:53,238 --> 00:32:54,805 Fake, not authentic. 927 00:32:54,873 --> 00:32:56,073 Excuse me. 928 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:57,441 Why don't you just address it in the beginning? 929 00:32:57,509 --> 00:33:00,143 "Listen, ladies, I'm here with my daughter. 930 00:33:00,212 --> 00:33:02,579 I apologize for my behavior in the past." 931 00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:05,248 No, she pretended like nothing happened. 932 00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:07,417 And the more I'm looking at her like, 933 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:11,722 "This mother[bleep] acting like she didn't do anything." 934 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,958 - So the tension started after you addressed her-- 935 00:33:15,027 --> 00:33:16,827 - At the dinner table. - Yeah, yeah. 936 00:33:16,895 --> 00:33:18,528 - It erupted. - Yeah. 937 00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:22,399 - 'Cause before that we were doing the mud pit. 938 00:33:22,468 --> 00:33:23,533 - And it was great. 939 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:24,901 - It was wonderful. - Yeah. 940 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:26,103 - I had a great time. 941 00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:27,504 - Although I was apprehensive, 942 00:33:27,573 --> 00:33:29,706 I left feeling like, wow. 943 00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:32,075 You connected every mom and every daughter. 944 00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,111 I saw my daughter in all those girls. 945 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:36,246 And I saw myself in all those moms. 946 00:33:36,315 --> 00:33:39,349 - Now, Coach B, you asked the other moms 947 00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:41,618 if there is a road to healing. 948 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,454 How about-- - Never. 949 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:45,956 - I don't want to be a part of it. 950 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,257 I don't want to be near her. 951 00:33:47,326 --> 00:33:49,326 If we do another one of these 952 00:33:49,395 --> 00:33:51,561 and she's invited, I will not come. 953 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,297 So get the boot, bitch. You gotta go. 954 00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:58,101 - How dangerous is it that after when we got back... 955 00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,470 - Oh, let's bring that up. - She went on social media 956 00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:03,306 and said that we knew she was pregnant. 957 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,608 - It's [bleep] up. 958 00:34:04,676 --> 00:34:06,710 Like, don't say that. - That was dangerous. 959 00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:09,813 - Because if I knew she was pregnant, 960 00:34:09,882 --> 00:34:11,581 I would have completely ignored her. 961 00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:12,883 - Yeah. - Yeah. 962 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:15,585 Bri, let me ask you this, 'cause I hear, you know, 963 00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:17,487 you and Roxanne, and most of the girls too, 964 00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:20,824 if not all, are saying, like, you know, no, no resolve. 965 00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:23,060 But I do want to kind of cut into 966 00:34:23,128 --> 00:34:25,262 you were there for the couple of days. 967 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:26,463 How was it for you? 968 00:34:26,532 --> 00:34:29,132 - That makes me emotional. 969 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:32,602 Because I had such a great time. 970 00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:35,072 The bungee jumping was amazing. 971 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:38,308 The mud pit was great, spending time with the girls. 972 00:34:38,377 --> 00:34:41,178 I wanted my mom to experience this. 973 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:43,613 And it's like this stupid [bleep] bitch 974 00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:47,084 took that away from me and my mom 975 00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:49,119 and for the rest of the girls. 976 00:34:49,188 --> 00:34:54,724 Like, I have true relationships with every single girl. 977 00:34:54,793 --> 00:34:58,361 And it's, like, it's just frustrating. 978 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:01,865 - What do you think of, like, possibly, you know, 979 00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:05,368 just doing some type of work 980 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,771 that provides tools on how to manage your anger 981 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,474 so that things are prevented 982 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,242 to even getting to a violent space? 983 00:35:12,311 --> 00:35:14,211 I don't mind disagreements that are healthy 984 00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:15,812 but not where it's getting physical 985 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:17,114 and people don't feel safe. 986 00:35:17,182 --> 00:35:18,381 Because that's not gonna be the first time 987 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,850 that you're in a confrontation, 988 00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:22,018 and I know it cost you your stay at the reunion. 989 00:35:22,087 --> 00:35:25,055 - Yeah. - But losing your cool 990 00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:26,289 can cost you your life. 991 00:35:26,358 --> 00:35:28,458 And you've got kids and too much to lose. 992 00:35:28,527 --> 00:35:30,760 - It's just hard to be a bigger person sometimes. 993 00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:34,131 I want to be a little tiny, tiny person and... 994 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:35,866 - Yeah. - Do what I gotta do sometimes. 995 00:35:35,934 --> 00:35:37,801 But, you know, I've come to realize that it's not-- 996 00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:39,035 it's not worth it sometimes. 997 00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:41,471 - Small people also everything else is small. 998 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,673 That make sense? - Yeah. 999 00:35:43,742 --> 00:35:45,075 - Thank you so much, Coach B, 1000 00:35:45,144 --> 00:35:46,810 for your words of wisdom as always. 1001 00:35:46,879 --> 00:35:48,578 Thank you so much, Roxanne and Briana... 1002 00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:49,813 - Thank you. - For coming back 1003 00:35:49,882 --> 00:35:52,115 and joining us and sharing your thoughts. 1004 00:35:52,184 --> 00:35:54,818 When we return, we'll have something that "Teen Mom" fans 1005 00:35:54,887 --> 00:35:58,688 haven't seen happen on a reunion stage in years, 1006 00:35:58,757 --> 00:36:01,625 Maci and Ryan on the couch together. 1007 00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:03,894 Trust me, you won't want to miss it. 1008 00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:08,165 [applause] 1009 00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:12,669 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 1010 00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:15,205 - What would you would have done different? 1011 00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:18,074 - I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there 1012 00:36:18,143 --> 00:36:21,945 just to see him play ball or just putting myself first. 1013 00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:23,880 - [sobbing] 1014 00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:29,085 [applause] 1015 00:36:29,154 --> 00:36:31,521 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom Family Reunion: 1016 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:32,522 The Aftermath." 1017 00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:34,324 I'm here with Maci, 1018 00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:37,127 Ryan, Jen, and Coach B. 1019 00:36:37,196 --> 00:36:38,728 [applause] 1020 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,031 We asked the other moms and grandmas to leave the stage 1021 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:42,699 so that there won't be any distractions 1022 00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,534 during this conversation. 1023 00:36:44,603 --> 00:36:45,936 All right, Maci. 1024 00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:50,207 What made you want Ryan and Jen at "Family Reunion"? 1025 00:36:50,275 --> 00:36:53,643 - Knowing how much I've learned and grew from the last one, 1026 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:58,315 it was a good safe space but also a consistent space 1027 00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:02,619 where it's not just, like, one day and then months go by. 1028 00:37:02,688 --> 00:37:04,621 You know, it's a few days, and I just felt like 1029 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:08,191 we would be able to work through some things 1030 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,760 or at least put some stuff out on the table 1031 00:37:10,829 --> 00:37:13,797 and see where it went. - Right. 1032 00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:15,966 And, Ryan, for you, why didn't you want to attend 1033 00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:17,100 "Family Reunion"? 1034 00:37:17,169 --> 00:37:19,269 - I've got a job that I have to go to. 1035 00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:21,304 - Okay, and, Jen, how about for you? 1036 00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:25,275 - I think I just wanted to be able to talk to her 1037 00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:26,643 one-one-one... - Sure. 1038 00:37:26,712 --> 00:37:29,913 - First before we went public. - Yeah. 1039 00:37:29,982 --> 00:37:31,348 And at this point, Maci, 1040 00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:33,984 how long has it been since you've spoken to Ryan? 1041 00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:35,085 - It's been a long time. 1042 00:37:35,153 --> 00:37:36,519 - A long time. - Yeah. 1043 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,122 - And how would you say your relationship 1044 00:37:39,191 --> 00:37:43,159 with Ryan, Jen-- how is it currently? 1045 00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:47,063 - Honestly, Ryan and I, like, it's just kind of nonexistent. 1046 00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:50,166 And with Jen, I feel like we are 1047 00:37:50,235 --> 00:37:54,804 definitely not in the really bad place that we all were... 1048 00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:56,206 - Sure. - A couple years ago, 1049 00:37:56,275 --> 00:38:00,343 but I don't think that either of us want to, like, 1050 00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:04,648 rush it or--'cause there is-- there's a lot of crap. 1051 00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:06,449 You know, there's a lot of stuff we-- 1052 00:38:06,518 --> 00:38:09,352 we have to kind of sift through. 1053 00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:10,787 - And, Jen, how about for you? 1054 00:38:10,856 --> 00:38:12,455 When you hear what Maci has to say right now, 1055 00:38:12,524 --> 00:38:13,456 what are your thoughts? 1056 00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:15,325 - Oh, I mean, I agree. 1057 00:38:15,394 --> 00:38:17,193 There's a lot we need to talk about... 1058 00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:18,628 - Yeah. - Work through, 1059 00:38:18,697 --> 00:38:20,897 and I hope that we can, 1060 00:38:20,966 --> 00:38:24,534 would love to get a relationship back. 1061 00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:27,137 - Okay, well, Coach B, I'm gonna hand it over to you. 1062 00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:28,271 I'm hear if you need me. 1063 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:29,873 - Got it. Thank you, Nessa. 1064 00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:32,876 Well, I first want to thank all of you for coming out 1065 00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:35,312 and trusting yourself to have this conversation. 1066 00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:36,946 It's not easy. 1067 00:38:37,015 --> 00:38:39,015 But before we dive into it, 1068 00:38:39,084 --> 00:38:41,384 I do want to start the conversation off 1069 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,887 with Maci and Ryan, have a little chat with them, 1070 00:38:43,955 --> 00:38:45,555 and then I'll bring you back in... 1071 00:38:45,624 --> 00:38:46,790 - That is wonderful. - To poke at you a little bit. 1072 00:38:46,858 --> 00:38:48,558 Is that okay with you? - That is--that is-- 1073 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:50,627 makes me happy. - You got it. All righty. 1074 00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:52,529 - Thank you. - You got it. 1075 00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:57,767 All right, so, Ryan, tell me, 1076 00:38:57,836 --> 00:38:59,736 what is your vision 1077 00:38:59,805 --> 00:39:03,773 for a healthy co-parenting relationship with Maci 1078 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:07,010 that would give Bentley the best experience 1079 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,512 of his two parents? 1080 00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:13,950 - I would--I'd just like to be able to, 1081 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:16,686 I guess, for Maci to be okay 1082 00:39:16,755 --> 00:39:18,855 with just being able to see him, really. 1083 00:39:18,924 --> 00:39:22,726 I mean, hell, I haven't got to spend any time with him, 1084 00:39:22,794 --> 00:39:25,795 just me, in a long time. [sniffles] 1085 00:39:31,002 --> 00:39:32,769 - [clears throat] 1086 00:39:32,838 --> 00:39:34,804 I'm gonna sit right here for a minute, 'kay? 1087 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:36,606 Is that okay with you? 1088 00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,008 Okay. 1089 00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:41,277 - [voice breaking] Hell, I just miss him. 1090 00:39:44,449 --> 00:39:45,982 - What part of the relationship 1091 00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:49,753 is your heart saying you miss with Bentley? 1092 00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:53,456 - Hell, just raising him. 1093 00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:55,892 - What would you would have done different? 1094 00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:58,762 - I mean, there's a lot of times I wasn't there 1095 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:02,465 just to see him play ball or just putting myself first. 1096 00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:07,103 - [sniffles] 1097 00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:09,339 - Yeah. 1098 00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:15,111 Do you think you can commit to showing up more? 1099 00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:16,846 - Yeah. 1100 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:19,048 - So I think if you can commit to doing that 1101 00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:21,885 and communicating with him more, 1102 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,486 I think that that'll start healing 1103 00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:25,789 that little boy's heart. 1104 00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:28,992 Yeah? - [sniffles] 1105 00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:31,161 - Do you believe you're in a place 1106 00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:34,664 to commit to being more consistent? 1107 00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:37,867 - Yeah, if I don't have to deal with everything else 1108 00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:39,969 that I've had to in the past. 1109 00:40:40,038 --> 00:40:41,404 - What's the everything else? 1110 00:40:41,473 --> 00:40:43,640 - Just everyone else in the way. 1111 00:40:43,708 --> 00:40:46,643 [dramatic music] 1112 00:40:46,711 --> 00:40:52,215 ♪ ♪ 1113 00:40:58,890 --> 00:41:01,157 Up next on "Teen Mom Family Reunion: The Aftermath"... 1114 00:41:01,226 --> 00:41:02,892 - I just want us to try to build 1115 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,294 our co-parenting foundation. 1116 00:41:04,362 --> 00:41:05,595 - I'm a survivor, baby. 1117 00:41:05,664 --> 00:41:07,764 - I don't have to always be the big, bad wolf. 1118 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:08,865 I can chill. 1119 00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:10,133 - Oh, jeez. What's wrong? 1120 00:41:10,202 --> 00:41:11,468 - Oh, my gosh. - I don't know what's wrong. 1121 00:41:11,536 --> 00:41:12,836 - I got it. I got it. I got it. - Hey, hey, Jade. 1122 00:41:12,904 --> 00:41:14,971 - Yep, you're good. You're good. 1123 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,372 - Can we get a medic out here?