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solemn music

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You got two 20-grain        
        federal .44 Magnums,

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a six-inch barrel .44 Magnum.

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These are not lead bullets.

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Could use a four-inch barrel.   
      We're not gonna do that.

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We're gonna give it        
           the real thing.

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Uh, just in case this doesn't   
   go right, there's my car keys.

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Okay. [chuckles]

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Uh, check the cylinder       
          of the gun here.

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-[chamber spinning]        
       -Feel like Matt Dillon.

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[sighs]

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And a lot of people think I'm   
   kind of stupid for doing this,

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but if it's just one knucklehead 
              out there

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that this will make        
         the difference to,

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one guy sees this and says,

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"Yeah, maybe I will        
         get one of those,"

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then it's worth it.

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Easy as pie, guys.

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[gunshot]

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soft music

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There's an arms race going on.

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It's not a recent thing.

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It's been going on         
     for over 500 million years.

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[roaring]

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Fish would have armor on them.

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Other fish have          
     sharper teeth, stronger jaws.

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The first fish develops      
           thicker armor.

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Goes back and forth,        
           back and forth.

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You have the Homo sapiens        
             on the Earth.

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They'd have crude body armor   
      made out of vines and stuff.

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They'd try to weave up      
             a little bit.

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You know, put some turtle shells 
        or clamshells in there.

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And sharp sticks would      
      bounce off a little better.

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Then the other side,

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[imitates air whooshing]      
      bows and arrows go through.

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[arrows whooshing]

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And the other side comes back   
         with steel plate armor

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-and chain mail armor.      
          -[armor clanging]

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And it goes back and forth

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and back and forth         
         and back and forth.

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And for just a little sliver    
             of history,

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I was on the leading edge of it.

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[Ramin Bahrani]          
         In 500 million years,

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Richard Davis is the only man   
     to have shot himself 192 times

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in the eternal battle       
       between armor and weapons.

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Uh, no big deal.

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Ow.

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Someday I'm gonna ham it up    
     with a bag of ketchup there

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and splat out and go...      
         [imitates groaning]

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[applause]

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Can you get a zoom-in shot here?

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[Ramin]              
            As the inventor

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of the modern-day         
           bulletproof vest,

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Richard had a product to sell.

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He was a showman, businessman   
            and a filmmaker,

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creating eight hours       
             of cult movies

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that were beloved by police    
          across the country.

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Kurt, you okay, man?

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I'm okay, man.           
         He just dusted me.

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-Did you get him?         
         -I don't know, man.

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I don't know.

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[Ramin]              
             At his height,

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Richard was the king of      
     a global body armor industry.

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His company, Second Chance,

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was worth over          
          $50 million dollars.

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His vests were being worn     
          by police, military

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-and even President Bush.     
             -[applause]

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Thank you very much for sharing 
   your God-given talents with us.

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[applause]

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[Ramin]   What drew me to Richard 
        were his contradictions.

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What makes a man         
           risk his own life

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in order to save         
         thousands of people...

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...only to endanger others,

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time and again,          
          over three decades,

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ultimately putting        
      over 100,000 lives at risk?

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[grunts]

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-Ooh.               
             -[laughter]

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The purpose of what I'm trying   
 to illustrate to you here today,

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uh, is, uh, to show you,

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uh, to show you... Eh.

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Seven Mile Road. Takes me back.

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Uh, Petula Clark. [chuckles]

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Listen to the music       
      of the traffic in the city

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Worst imitation          
        of Petula Clark ever.

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[Ramin]              
        What used to be here?

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This-this used to be        
        my pizza store here.

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Way, way back,           
     uh, actually, 50 years ago.

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Fifty-one years ago.        
          My God, I'm old.

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We'd make the pizza        
           in the back there.

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First, you take the dough,

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you throw it up in the air    
            and spin around.

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Well, you don't do it       
         with your fingers.

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Everyone thinks you do it     
        with your fingertips.

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You do it with           
     the back of your knuckles.

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You put your fingertips      
     up there, put a hole in it.

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You go, flip it up.

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And, boy, I can still do that.   
              [laughs]

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[Ramin]   Richard's origin story   
              as inventor

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bizarrely started here.

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In 1970, Richard's fiancée Karen 
          went with her friend

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to deliver an order of two    
 large pepperoni and ham pizzas.

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[Karen]   We heard somebody call   
         from the back saying,

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"Bring it around the back."

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So we went. We were very naive.

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And there were five men there,

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and, um, one put          
       a machete to my throat

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and started kind of dragging us 
      back toward the backyard.

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But then another one said,

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"Let's just get the money     
              and go."

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So, we were okay.

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pensive music

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[Richard]             
           Six months later,

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the night after Apollo      
         went off to the moon,

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got a call             
      in the same general area

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for two large pepperoni and ham.

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And that's the same order     
            that Karen took

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right into the jaws        
         of a armed robbery.

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I got a six-shot .22.

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I took the revolver like this   
            and I had it

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underneath the pizza box.

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I-I see these guys        
            standing there.

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I said, "Did you guys       
             order pizza?"

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And they said,          
     "Yeah, bring it around back."

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I knew it was gonna be      
            a robbery then.

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Tallest one, he had        
 a small nickel-plated automatic

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pointed right at my head.

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I just kept watching       
       his hand there, you know.

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I see some stupid Western movies 
           sometimes say,

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"Watch the man's eyes.       
         That'll tell you."

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No. What the hell?         
        Just watch his hands.

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His hand started to move.

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I shot inside his jaw       
          and out his ear.

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Another one went          
       an inch off his heart,

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right through him,         
      right through him-- .22.

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I missed the third shot,

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and the fourth shot hit      
   the second guy in the shoulder.

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Boom, I hit him          
     right dead center in the back,

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[clicks tongue]          
          behind the heart.

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He went [blows raspberry]     
       flat down on his nose.

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Right here in this spot...

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...I defeated two men       
           in a gunfight.

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Unfortunately, I was        
     fighting three at the time.

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And the guy that I thought     
         was dead twice over

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is laying on the ground.

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He fired that .25 twice.

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Hit me in the back         
           of the left leg

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and the right side         
          of the head here.

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And then they just shot,      
              took off.

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[siren wailing]

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[Ramin]              
           Six months later,

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his two pizzerias will      
      burn down in the same night.

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There was a dispute        
         as to how it happened.

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It was definitely an arson,

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and, uh... for-for a while,    
   the policemen thought I did it.

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And I imagine people r-right--

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watching this right now      
             are saying,

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"Hey, maybe he did it,       
          maybe he did it."

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He did it for--          
        "Why would he do it?"

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"For the insurance.        
    He did it for the insurance."

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I didn't have           
      any damn insurance, okay?

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[laughs] Geez.

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[Ramin]              
              Out of work

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and with his alleyway shootout 
             fresh in mind,

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Richard focused his attention   
 on the danger he saw everywhere.

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dramatic music

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[Richard]   I kept reading stories 
 about policemen getting killed.

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And at one point in 1971,     
          around the country,

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eight cops were shot to death   
            in one weekend.

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The reason?            
         Probably narcotics

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and the lack            
      of mandatory jail terms.

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Here's the old concept      
             in body armor.

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Flak jackets.

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They have two major drawbacks.

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First, they are too stiff     
    and heavy for everyday wear.

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Second, the criminal        
          can see the armor

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and shoots             
       for the officer's head.

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[Richard]   I realized the vest   
 has got to be comfortable enough

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to wear on a daily basis,

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but nobody makes          
         anything like that.

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And I'm thinking to myself,    
 "Well, maybe somebody ought to."

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Right now...

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[Richard]             
 I got a 70-dollar roll of nylon.

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It was different 'cause it was 
       lighter than steel plates.

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No metal,             
     that's the important thing.

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I made the squares and then    
 sewed them together with an awl.

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We had to make          
      every single stitch by hand.

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He cut the seat belts       
           out of our car

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to use for shoulder straps.

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[Richard]             
             I had one year

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at the University of Michigan   
        College of Engineering.

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So, everything was        
            very scientific.

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[Ramin]              
 But how did you know it worked?

193
00:10:05,981 --> 00:10:07,024
Well, we shot it,         
          yeah, we shot it.

194
00:10:07,066 --> 00:10:08,108
Of course, yes.

195
00:10:09,902 --> 00:10:12,571
Your bullet is right there,    
       about halfway through.

196
00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:16,283
He also shot in our basement      
          of our townhouse,

197
00:10:16,325 --> 00:10:19,703
which the neighbors        
   didn't like very much. [laughs]

198
00:10:19,745 --> 00:10:23,290
So we didn't last long       
     in the townhouse. [laughs]

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[Richard]             
          People were saying,

200
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if you don't have         
          a steel plate there,

201
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the impact of the bullet     
         will shatter your ribs

202
00:10:31,924 --> 00:10:33,634
and blow a piece of        
 your sternum through your heart.

203
00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:35,678
Very least, you'll be so stunned

204
00:10:35,719 --> 00:10:37,554
you won't be able         
        to, uh, return fire,

205
00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:39,223
and the bad guy will just go    
   over and shoot you in the head.

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I didn't think          
           that was the case,

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but then again,          
         maybe they were right.

208
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I didn't know.

209
00:10:46,438 --> 00:10:49,358
I had a scheduled demonstration   
        at a police department.

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00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,110
You know, cops are        
        very stubborn, cynical.

211
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"Show me.             
   Show me if this works or not."

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00:10:53,779 --> 00:10:56,407
I decided I had to do it.

213
00:10:56,448 --> 00:10:58,450
I had to get shot on the vest.

214
00:11:00,285 --> 00:11:02,079
"We'll go out in the woods    
       somewhere and just do it.

215
00:11:02,121 --> 00:11:03,747
Or, uh, I'll do it right here,   
     if you guys d-don't mind."

216
00:11:03,789 --> 00:11:06,250
I-I thought they would say,    
      "Oh, God, no, liability."

217
00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:08,252
They said, "Yeah, go ahead."    
              [laughs]

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00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:48,125
[sighs]

219
00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:11,440
And the cops, they go,      
       "Wow, this really works."

220
00:12:11,482 --> 00:12:12,649
They scrambled, they sent

221
00:12:12,691 --> 00:12:14,568
word over the teletypes.

222
00:12:14,610 --> 00:12:15,944
Teletype.             
     That's for you young kids.

223
00:12:15,986 --> 00:12:18,030
You never heard of that.      
              [laughs]

224
00:12:19,323 --> 00:12:21,825
A few hours after I got shot,   
       everybody knew about this.

225
00:12:21,867 --> 00:12:24,161
light music

226
00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:27,956
And I realized

227
00:12:27,998 --> 00:12:29,750
there's this window of time,

228
00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:31,835
real-world here--

229
00:12:31,877 --> 00:12:33,670
and, uh, don't quote me      
       in court or anything--

230
00:12:33,712 --> 00:12:35,589
but a cop just got shot.

231
00:12:35,631 --> 00:12:37,174
There's a few seconds there

232
00:12:37,216 --> 00:12:38,926
where he can do          
   damn near anything to that guy.

233
00:12:39,885 --> 00:12:41,804
You've been shot.         
            You're in shock.

234
00:12:41,845 --> 00:12:43,806
The guy is assaulting you.

235
00:12:43,847 --> 00:12:45,182
He shot you once.         
        Will he shoot you again?

236
00:12:45,224 --> 00:12:47,184
Yeah, they will.         
           Sometimes they do.

237
00:12:49,186 --> 00:12:51,146
anticipatory music

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00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:54,858
[Ramin]              
        Richard got into his car

239
00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:57,194
with vests, guns and ammo,

240
00:12:57,236 --> 00:12:59,655
and drove to police departments   
          across the country.

241
00:13:00,364 --> 00:13:03,075
[Richard]   When we got an order, 
 we put the vests in pizza boxes.

242
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:05,577
We get the vest,          
   put it in the box, seal it up.

243
00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:06,954
Off it goes.

244
00:13:06,995 --> 00:13:08,664
Bam, next morning,         
         it's in California.

245
00:13:08,705 --> 00:13:10,123
The dealers are          
         out of their minds.

246
00:13:10,165 --> 00:13:12,209
Says, "I-I can't get        
      such service like this."

247
00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:18,757
So I took every dime I made

248
00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:21,635
and I went and I found       
        a four-color printer.

249
00:13:21,677 --> 00:13:24,054
And inside,            
       talking about the vest

250
00:13:24,096 --> 00:13:26,056
and how you should wear it.

251
00:13:26,098 --> 00:13:27,683
But I put this up here.

252
00:13:27,724 --> 00:13:29,393
"Sex & Violence."

253
00:13:29,434 --> 00:13:32,020
As stupid as it is,        
     it got people's attention.

254
00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:34,231
The first question         
        they commonly asked:

255
00:13:34,273 --> 00:13:35,691
"Who's the sexy blonde       
           on the cover?"

256
00:13:35,732 --> 00:13:37,150
And I would say,

257
00:13:37,192 --> 00:13:38,360
"That's me.            
     The girl ain't bad either."

258
00:13:38,402 --> 00:13:40,195
[laughs]

259
00:13:40,237 --> 00:13:41,864
[Ramin] What did Karen       
       think about this cover?

260
00:13:41,905 --> 00:13:43,740
Oh, she-she was cool with it.

261
00:13:43,782 --> 00:13:47,494
That was the one that I kind of 
   had a problem with. [chuckles]

262
00:13:47,536 --> 00:13:49,246
[Richard]   We had a little     
       husband-wife arrangement.

263
00:13:49,288 --> 00:13:51,081
It was kind of cool.

264
00:13:51,123 --> 00:13:54,751
Whenever I'm going out      
       to be working with models,

265
00:13:54,793 --> 00:13:56,712
that morning, we'd go up...

266
00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:58,130
[laughs]

267
00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,048
She'd drain my bodily fluids.

268
00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:01,300
[laughs]

269
00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,427
She'd toss me to the bed there,

270
00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:05,053
and the tank's empty already.

271
00:14:05,095 --> 00:14:06,763
[laughs]

272
00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:10,058
Oh, yes.

273
00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:16,106
That girl's got the two      
    best-looking legs in America.

274
00:14:16,148 --> 00:14:18,233
You know how I know that?     
           I counted them.

275
00:14:18,275 --> 00:14:22,154
"Sex & Violence"         
         became an institution.

276
00:14:26,742 --> 00:14:30,621
I said to Karen, "Do you realize 
          we're doing so well,

277
00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:34,041
we can go to Kmart         
     and buy anything we want?"

278
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,461
She goes, "Yeah." [laughs]

279
00:14:37,502 --> 00:14:39,796
This is redneck nirvana here.   
              [laughs]

280
00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:43,592
[Ramin]   Richard left Detroit      
          and opened a factory

281
00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:46,637
in the small blue-collar town   
            of Central Lake

282
00:14:46,678 --> 00:14:48,555
in Northern Michigan.

283
00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:52,225
He hired hundreds of people      
          who were out of work

284
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,228
and became            
      the town's biggest employer.

285
00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:57,314
Richard is crazy, yes.

286
00:14:57,356 --> 00:15:00,067
[both laughing]

287
00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:01,318
A good crazy.

288
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,653
[both laugh]

289
00:15:02,694 --> 00:15:04,154
People would talk about him

290
00:15:04,196 --> 00:15:06,281
coming into the shop       
            with big buckets

291
00:15:06,323 --> 00:15:09,826
of Kentucky Fried Chicken     
 and passing it out to everybody.

292
00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:15,499
[Ramin]   He was a civic leader,   
         a savior to the town.

293
00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,502
Out of his own pocket,

294
00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:21,755
he orchestrated          
        an annual fireworks show

295
00:15:21,797 --> 00:15:24,591
that drew tens of thousands    
             to the region.

296
00:15:24,633 --> 00:15:26,301
All these people coming in,

297
00:15:26,343 --> 00:15:28,428
going to the restaurants,     
   going to the stores, you know.

298
00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:30,055
Um, and made them aware of

299
00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:32,182
our-our little town        
          of Central Lake.

300
00:15:34,184 --> 00:15:37,479
[Ramin]   At its core, Second    
     Chance was a family business.

301
00:15:37,521 --> 00:15:40,023
Richard's wife, sister

302
00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:42,693
and father            
        all held key positions.

303
00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:45,612
He even cast his mom       
          to act in his films.

304
00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:47,739
Meet Mr. Browning.

305
00:15:51,034 --> 00:15:53,036
[Ramin]              
     And when his son Matt grew up,

306
00:15:53,078 --> 00:15:54,955
he came to work for his dad.

307
00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:56,873
Our carriers and our--       
    all of our concealer panels.

308
00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:00,961
[Ramin]   Richard bought       
        a 600-acre plot of land

309
00:16:01,003 --> 00:16:05,549
for his home, shooting ranges   
           and lots of guns.

310
00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:07,759
[Richard]             
        This land is your land

311
00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:10,595
No, it isn't.           
     This land is my land, yes.

312
00:16:10,637 --> 00:16:12,347
Get the hell off this land.

313
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:14,141
This land is my land

314
00:16:14,182 --> 00:16:15,934
This land is my land,      
         this land is my land

315
00:16:15,976 --> 00:16:18,270
This land is my land

316
00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:21,064
Some of the other companies,   
            my competitors,

317
00:16:21,106 --> 00:16:23,191
every day,             
    I had people lying about me,

318
00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:24,901
saying that the vest didn't work

319
00:16:24,943 --> 00:16:27,487
or some guy got killed       
          wearing our vest.

320
00:16:27,529 --> 00:16:29,448
They were saying         
            that I was dead.

321
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:31,950
This is normal. They would    
       lie about me all the time.

322
00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:35,328
[Ramin] And, Richard,       
      describe for me a moment

323
00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:37,831
where you didn't tell the truth.

324
00:16:37,873 --> 00:16:39,541
I didn't tell the truth?

325
00:16:41,126 --> 00:16:43,920
Uh, you got me there. [stammers]

326
00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:45,922
pensive music

327
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:51,553
The truth is            
      probably the most fragile

328
00:16:51,595 --> 00:16:54,264
and elusive thing         
          in our universe.

329
00:16:54,306 --> 00:16:57,726
It can be bent, distorted,

330
00:16:57,768 --> 00:16:59,436
turned around.

331
00:17:00,896 --> 00:17:02,939
It can be destroyed.

332
00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:13,200
Police! Don't move!

333
00:17:13,241 --> 00:17:15,285
Freeze!

334
00:17:23,168 --> 00:17:25,003
Don't move! Don't move.

335
00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,296
[assailant]            
       You got me. You got me.

336
00:17:26,338 --> 00:17:27,631
You breathe wrong,         
           I'll kill you.

337
00:17:27,672 --> 00:17:28,840
You breathe            
        wrong, I'll kill you!

338
00:17:30,342 --> 00:17:33,428
[Ramin] Tell me about       
     the day that you were shot.

339
00:17:34,429 --> 00:17:35,847
[Aaron Westrick]          
            I was called to

340
00:17:35,889 --> 00:17:37,682
a breaking and entering      
              in progress.

341
00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:40,018
The suspect's running       
      from the back of this house,

342
00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:42,813
and I went to capture him.

343
00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:44,648
And, uh, I got close,

344
00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:46,733
within five feet, and I could   
    see out the corner of my eye

345
00:17:46,775 --> 00:17:48,985
with my flashlight         
          that he had a gun

346
00:17:49,027 --> 00:17:50,821
and that he was          
     getting ready to shoot me,

347
00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:52,656
and he did. [chuckles]

348
00:17:52,697 --> 00:17:54,449
And I shot him back.

349
00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:55,992
Where did he shoot you?

350
00:17:56,034 --> 00:17:57,744
Well, a bullet           
        went through my hand

351
00:17:57,786 --> 00:18:01,081
and then lodged in my vest.

352
00:18:01,123 --> 00:18:03,291
Second Chance Body Armor      
           saved my life.

353
00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:05,293
Next thing you know,       
     I'm talking to Richard Davis.

354
00:18:05,335 --> 00:18:06,878
He wanted to verify.

355
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,089
"Do you have newspaper      
        articles?" and so forth.

356
00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:10,632
I told him what happened,     
            and he said,

357
00:18:10,674 --> 00:18:13,343
"Sounds to me like         
           you're a save."

358
00:18:14,302 --> 00:18:15,887
When I put that armor on,     
              I feel like

359
00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,514
it's Richard Davis        
             protecting me.

360
00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:21,309
[Ramin]   Aaron Westrick       
         would arguably become

361
00:18:21,351 --> 00:18:24,771
the most consequential person   
        saved by Richard Davis.

362
00:18:25,814 --> 00:18:28,400
-That's you.            
             -That's me.

363
00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:30,068
soft music

364
00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:33,572
[Richard]   When I first started   
           the vest, I said,

365
00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,407
"If we save somebody,       
        I'm gonna make a list."

366
00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:38,243
Here's the name, the date,     
       the place, the weapon,

367
00:18:38,285 --> 00:18:40,704
and maybe get the guy's picture 
     with a bruise and smiling.

368
00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:44,374
I jokingly call myself      
         "Save zero-zero-zero."

369
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:49,045
I was realistically hoping    
 for maybe a hundred eventually.

370
00:18:50,922 --> 00:18:52,674
So, uh, I was very happy     
          to be wrong on that.

371
00:18:52,716 --> 00:18:54,259
We saved more than a thousand.

372
00:18:54,301 --> 00:18:55,927
Sometimes you go         
         for two or three weeks

373
00:18:55,969 --> 00:18:57,387
without saving anybody,

374
00:18:57,429 --> 00:18:59,222
and I'd get like          
     a heroin addict withdrawal.

375
00:18:59,264 --> 00:19:01,850
Come on, when we gonna save    
           somebody?   [laughs]

376
00:19:01,892 --> 00:19:03,685
If I wouldn't have been      
       wearing the body armor,

377
00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:06,062
the .22 would've          
         killed me, period.

378
00:19:06,104 --> 00:19:09,232
If Chris hadn't been wearing    
       his Second Chance vest,

379
00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:10,650
we wouldn't have Samuel today.

380
00:19:10,692 --> 00:19:12,694
-It's great to be alive.      
               -Yeah.

381
00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:14,112
[Chris laughs]

382
00:19:14,154 --> 00:19:15,405
Well, she wasn't around      
          when he got shot.

383
00:19:15,447 --> 00:19:16,948
She's only six months old,

384
00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:19,784
so I guess you'd call her     
        a Second Chance baby.

385
00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:21,453
[Angela Watson]          
       This is what saved me.

386
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,747
The round was actually stuck    
       in my vest right here.

387
00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:26,833
A year or so later,        
       I was getting married.

388
00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:28,501
I told Richard, you know,     
    I didn't have a real father.

389
00:19:28,543 --> 00:19:30,420
My real father didn't want     
       anything to do with me,

390
00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:32,797
so, uh, I asked Richard,

391
00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,925
"Would you be willing       
     to walk me down the aisle?"

392
00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:38,011
I said, "Angie, I will cancel   
 an audience with the Pope, okay?

393
00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:39,679
I'm gonna be there."

394
00:19:39,721 --> 00:19:41,223
It just doesn't get        
         any cooler than that.

395
00:19:41,264 --> 00:19:43,225
[laughing]

396
00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:45,143
dramatic music

397
00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:54,486
[woman screams]

398
00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:02,452
[Ramin]              
      You became a movie maker.

399
00:20:02,494 --> 00:20:03,578
Yeah.

400
00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:04,704
I was a director then,

401
00:20:04,746 --> 00:20:05,747
yeah, I guess, I suppose.

402
00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:06,790
Writer, director,

403
00:20:06,831 --> 00:20:08,541
sometimes star-- I don't know.

404
00:20:13,004 --> 00:20:14,256
[woman] The impact caused me    
          permanent damage.

405
00:20:14,297 --> 00:20:16,549
[Richard]             
          To promote the vest,

406
00:20:16,591 --> 00:20:19,261
we got policemen         
     who'd been shot in their vest,

407
00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:21,137
got them all to come up here,

408
00:20:21,179 --> 00:20:23,640
and they went through       
     and reenacted their shooting.

409
00:20:23,682 --> 00:20:25,600
It's a cross between       
         a 30-second commercial

410
00:20:25,642 --> 00:20:27,769
and a two-hour movie.       
             [chuckles]

411
00:20:27,811 --> 00:20:29,813
I would love to have just made 
         a 30-second commercial

412
00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,773
and say, "Hey, this is a vest,"

413
00:20:31,815 --> 00:20:33,900
but, no, you got to, got to,   
       got to get them intrigued

414
00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:35,402
and show, hey, this guy      
          got saved his life,

415
00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:36,611
and this one saved his life.

416
00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:38,196
"Oh, wow."

417
00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:39,781
Die, pig.

418
00:20:39,823 --> 00:20:41,116
[man groans]

419
00:20:41,157 --> 00:20:43,159
[Aaron]              
         With the reenactments,

420
00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:46,830
Richard was trying to be     
        as accurate as possible.

421
00:20:46,871 --> 00:20:48,498
[gunfire]

422
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:49,833
But my reenactment,

423
00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:51,459
it didn't happen in daylight.

424
00:20:51,501 --> 00:20:53,044
-Freeze!              
        -[Ramin]   And the man

425
00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:56,006
who shot you, he was        
     a white man or a Black man?

426
00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,716
Yeah, he was a Black man.

427
00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:00,510
In the re-creation,        
    he is played by a white man.

428
00:21:00,552 --> 00:21:02,387
[Aaron]              
              Good point.

429
00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:06,141
The re-creation is         
     working with what they had.

430
00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:08,184
You got me.

431
00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:12,397
[Ramin]   In his films, we see    
       Richard's marketing savvy.

432
00:21:13,732 --> 00:21:16,985
But they also unveil       
      his inner fears and desires.

433
00:21:17,027 --> 00:21:18,069
[shouting]

434
00:21:23,575 --> 00:21:27,704
In his 1975 film,         
       Second Chance vs. UAP,

435
00:21:27,746 --> 00:21:31,833
a ragtag leftist group of     
     communist hippies gone berserk

436
00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:35,337
make it their mission       
         to murder the police.

437
00:21:35,378 --> 00:21:39,382
We're killing pigs,        
     killing pigs, killing pigs.

438
00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:41,551
There's no more righteous     
          and beautiful act

439
00:21:41,593 --> 00:21:44,220
than the liquidation        
    of the brutal fascist insect

440
00:21:44,262 --> 00:21:46,765
which preys upon          
      the lives of our people.

441
00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:48,099
[men cheering]

442
00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:49,726
[Ramin]              
     What does "UAP" stand for?

443
00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:50,935
Yeah, that's-that's,        
           that's where--

444
00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:52,354
that's the grabber there, see?

445
00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:55,732
UAPs do exist.

446
00:21:55,774 --> 00:21:58,735
"Unorganized Asshole Punks."

447
00:21:58,777 --> 00:22:00,528
Ah, and, like,

448
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,614
you think this organization    
     doesn't exist, but it does,

449
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,199
and they're killing        
     ten policemen every month.

450
00:22:05,158 --> 00:22:06,785
We'd go out            
         to police departments,

451
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,495
and they'd show it        
       at a police union meeting.

452
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:11,498
Everybody loved it,        
 you know, and they wanted more.

453
00:22:11,539 --> 00:22:13,041
Freeze! Police!

454
00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:17,754
[Ramin]   Richard's films      
     instilled fear into the police

455
00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:21,257
so they would keep buying     
        the latest model vests.

456
00:22:21,299 --> 00:22:23,301
[alarm ringing]

457
00:22:25,595 --> 00:22:27,430
Inspired by Hollywood films,

458
00:22:27,472 --> 00:22:31,226
Richard's movies also encouraged 
 police to become rogue killers.

459
00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,019
[crowd screaming]

460
00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:39,776
So the question is, punk:     
         Do you feel lucky?

461
00:22:39,818 --> 00:22:41,111
Well, punk, do you feel lucky?

462
00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,113
Well, do you, punk?

463
00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:47,283
dramatic music

464
00:22:47,325 --> 00:22:49,285
[crowd screaming]

465
00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:53,623
[Ramin]              
     The films also allowed Richard

466
00:22:53,665 --> 00:22:56,960
to lampoon the media if they   
      questioned police brutality.

467
00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,461
Was Godzilla armed?

468
00:22:58,503 --> 00:23:01,005
Well, no, but he was...      
            he was huge.

469
00:23:01,047 --> 00:23:02,674
Well, did you fire         
           a warning shot?

470
00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:04,134
No.

471
00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:05,969
[Ramin]              
      The bad guys were Godzilla,

472
00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:09,097
their guilt and execution     
         a predetermined fate.

473
00:23:09,139 --> 00:23:12,976
So, you killed Godzilla      
           in cold blood?

474
00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:15,854
Well, I had to, lady.       
           He's a reptile.

475
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:17,605
[whistling tune]

476
00:23:17,647 --> 00:23:19,649
[Richard]   You're in such      
       a deadly serious business.

477
00:23:20,275 --> 00:23:22,360
You got to have          
    a sense of humor about this,

478
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,320
'cause if you don't,        
     you'll go stark raving mad.

479
00:23:24,362 --> 00:23:26,990
What is comedy?

480
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:30,285
Webster's Dictionary        
          defines "comedy"

481
00:23:30,326 --> 00:23:32,495
as "that form of          
          entertainment..."

482
00:23:32,537 --> 00:23:33,872
[muffled mumbling]

483
00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:39,169
I think maybe a part of      
      my attraction to Richard

484
00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:43,006
is the fact that          
 I've always been a fan of opera.

485
00:23:43,047 --> 00:23:45,508
He is a truly           
         operatic character.

486
00:23:45,550 --> 00:23:48,094
[Ramin] What is the name      
     of the Richard Davis opera?

487
00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:49,971
Um...

488
00:23:50,013 --> 00:23:51,222
Boom.

489
00:23:54,809 --> 00:23:56,769
solemn music

490
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,525
[Richard]   I betrayed        
        my wonderful wife Karen.

491
00:24:02,567 --> 00:24:04,527
It's the biggest regret      
              of my life.

492
00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:07,822
[chuckles]             
               Oh, no.

493
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:11,367
Uh, yeah,             
       it was pure hedonistic.

494
00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:13,578
Kathleen.

495
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,371
Wow, killer body.

496
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:18,875
She's a very, uh, artistic--    
    She has great, great talent.

497
00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:21,586
She can do an imitation of     
   Elmer Fudd reading pornography

498
00:24:21,628 --> 00:24:22,879
that will put you on the floor

499
00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,589
with tears             
       in your eyes laughing.

500
00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:26,216
[imitating Elmer Fudd]       
    "I was stunned out of my head

501
00:24:26,257 --> 00:24:29,177
about her naked body." [laughs]

502
00:24:31,095 --> 00:24:34,057
We just-- I don't know.      
          Richard's a lot.

503
00:24:34,098 --> 00:24:36,059
Richard's a lot. [laughs]

504
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,852
[whip cracks]

505
00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:39,687
We were divorced,         
      but I stayed in the company

506
00:24:39,729 --> 00:24:42,649
because I needed         
        to protect my interests.

507
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:46,528
I began to appreciate       
    her difficulties immediately.

508
00:24:46,569 --> 00:24:48,863
Immediately.

509
00:24:48,905 --> 00:24:52,075
Richard desperately needs     
       to be loved by people.

510
00:24:52,116 --> 00:24:56,079
He has his minions,        
      his friends, his followers.

511
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,666
For example,           
     Aaron Westrick loved Richard.

512
00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,168
[Ramin]              
     And did Richard love Aaron?

513
00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:03,586
He loved him

514
00:25:03,628 --> 00:25:07,757
as one of his pet saves.

515
00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:12,136
He loved him the way        
   someone would love a champ dog.

516
00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:14,347
I don't care what anybody says.

517
00:25:14,389 --> 00:25:16,975
Aaron and Richard         
         were good friends.

518
00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,811
Their personalities        
        were somewhat similar

519
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,271
with their level of energy,

520
00:25:21,312 --> 00:25:24,649
and Aaron, he was always moving.

521
00:25:24,691 --> 00:25:26,901
Talking, moving, something.

522
00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:29,571
They understood each other.

523
00:25:31,114 --> 00:25:33,283
Richard, he was very generous.

524
00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:35,952
Aaron Westrick, 265.

525
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,123
[Kim]               
     Take us out to eat, you know,

526
00:25:40,164 --> 00:25:42,125
take us out on his boat.

527
00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:45,461
Karen, you know,         
        she sent us baby gifts,

528
00:25:45,503 --> 00:25:49,048
and, um, we all          
       kind of got pretty close.

529
00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:50,717
[Richard]             
     Our next video's gonna be,

530
00:25:50,758 --> 00:25:54,137
"Aaron Westrick,          
    Master of Criminal Justice."

531
00:25:54,178 --> 00:25:56,472
And-and perched on--        
      you'd be on a rock, see,

532
00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:58,141
in your superhero outfit      
       with the cape flowing.

533
00:25:58,182 --> 00:25:59,976
"I see a perpetrator!"       
         [imitates whirring]

534
00:26:00,018 --> 00:26:01,894
-You fly down. Okay.        
          -[men chuckling]

535
00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:03,605
[Aaron]              
 Richard called me on the phone.

536
00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:06,482
He said, "We want you to come   
      up here and work with us.

537
00:26:06,524 --> 00:26:08,651
You're-you're our best save."

538
00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:10,486
I remember those words,      
       "You're our best save."

539
00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:12,614
Aaron Westrick just mentioned   
        something off camera.

540
00:26:12,655 --> 00:26:14,198
Tell-tell the whole        
    police community in America,

541
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,908
Aaron, what you just told me.

542
00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:18,453
[Aaron]   At that point,       
         I would do marketing.

543
00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:20,747
For a while there,        
            we had a blast.

544
00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:22,832
Richard Davis here.

545
00:26:22,874 --> 00:26:27,211
I was kind of, uh,         
       his sidekick, in a way.

546
00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:29,088
Ah!

547
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:30,506
[Aaron]              
       The executives telling me,

548
00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:34,010
"It's your job           
       to keep an eye on him."

549
00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:37,930
Years ago, when I was shot,

550
00:26:37,972 --> 00:26:39,766
I was released from        
        the hospital that night.

551
00:26:39,807 --> 00:26:41,643
The sheriff looked at me,     
                he said,

552
00:26:41,684 --> 00:26:43,102
"Son, you did a good job,

553
00:26:43,144 --> 00:26:45,104
but for 25 cents,

554
00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,190
you could've saved this county   
          a lot of money."

555
00:26:48,399 --> 00:26:50,360
[Ramin] What did that mean,    
           "for 25 cents"?

556
00:26:50,401 --> 00:26:53,196
A bullet,             
    another bullet cost 25 cents.

557
00:26:53,237 --> 00:26:55,448
I could've walked         
    over top of him and shot him.

558
00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:57,158
And I didn't do that.

559
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,035
He quit firing...

560
00:26:59,077 --> 00:27:00,787
He hit me, I shot him back,

561
00:27:00,828 --> 00:27:02,997
he quit firing,          
         and I quit firing.

562
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,875
I didn't stand over top of him   
          and execute him.

563
00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:07,377
Bad guys who shoot policemen

564
00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,879
are deliberately trying      
            to kill them.

565
00:27:09,921 --> 00:27:11,923
I think you get          
      a one-way ticket to hell,

566
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:15,843
not life in prison or not,     
     uh, ten years on death row.

567
00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:18,680
Uh, right there, right there,   
         on the spot, dead.

568
00:27:18,721 --> 00:27:21,057
That's-that's my way        
            of doing it.

569
00:27:21,099 --> 00:27:22,892
Just got a call.

570
00:27:22,934 --> 00:27:27,855
A New York state trooper      
      has been shot. [chuckles]

571
00:27:27,897 --> 00:27:30,608
[Ramin]   Richard had a policy    
          for police officers

572
00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:33,152
saved by a Second Chance vest.

573
00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:36,447
If they killed their shooter,   
 he would reward them with a gun.

574
00:27:36,489 --> 00:27:38,533
[man on phone]   I took my gun    
         and fired back at him.

575
00:27:38,574 --> 00:27:40,034
Did you, did you kill him?

576
00:27:40,076 --> 00:27:42,120
No. Uh, he returned to the car.

577
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:44,122
You know, he was moving back   
              at the time.

578
00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,082
[Ramin]              
       But without the execution,

579
00:27:46,124 --> 00:27:48,084
there was no bounty.

580
00:27:48,126 --> 00:27:50,086
somber music

581
00:27:52,422 --> 00:27:55,091
[Kathleen]   I think         
       Richard always saw himself

582
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,593
as a person of destiny.

583
00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:01,597
Like Prometheus          
       bringing back something

584
00:28:01,639 --> 00:28:04,767
from the gods           
        to benefit humankind.

585
00:28:04,809 --> 00:28:07,562
In the struggle          
       between life and death,

586
00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:09,439
he could tip the odds.

587
00:28:19,824 --> 00:28:21,784
mellow music

588
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:31,335
[Ramin]              
     One of Richard's most haunting

589
00:28:31,377 --> 00:28:34,672
and strange transgressions    
            happened in 1990

590
00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:36,924
at the Second Chance Pin Shoot.

591
00:28:40,595 --> 00:28:42,472
This annual shooting competition

592
00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:45,933
was a weeklong event       
 Richard staged on his property.

593
00:28:45,975 --> 00:28:48,311
It attracted           
         the best professional

594
00:28:48,352 --> 00:28:49,854
and amateur marksmen,

595
00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:51,147
even Olympians          
         from around the world.

596
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,651
And Richard was the ringleader.

597
00:28:55,693 --> 00:28:58,613
[women squealing]

598
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:02,074
[Tim Paczesny]           
     That was really fun as a kid.

599
00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:04,994
I, in fact, won          
     a very large Gurkha knife,

600
00:29:05,036 --> 00:29:06,871
which is about this big,

601
00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:09,749
and, uh, I won it         
          as a 12-year-old.

602
00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:12,084
And, you know, my parents     
      had to sign t-to take it,

603
00:29:12,126 --> 00:29:14,003
but I won it 'cause I knew     
     the answer to the question,

604
00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:16,214
which was,             
 "What's the name of this knife?"

605
00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:17,548
And it was a Gurkha.

606
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:19,926
And, uh, it's actually       
          a killing knife.

607
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:24,013
[onlookers cheering]

608
00:29:24,055 --> 00:29:26,057
Richard Davis was an icon.

609
00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:28,976
He was the most powerful person.

610
00:29:29,018 --> 00:29:30,853
You know, he was the guy     
             that employed

611
00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:32,605
80% of the town.

612
00:29:32,647 --> 00:29:34,941
And, uh, for me,          
       somebody to look up to

613
00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:38,361
as somebody that you might     
         want to be someday.

614
00:29:39,946 --> 00:29:42,448
When I was 16,          
          I made a bad choice.

615
00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:45,284
I was out drinking        
           with some friends.

616
00:29:45,326 --> 00:29:47,203
We had pulled behind the school

617
00:29:47,245 --> 00:29:49,580
and basically said, "Hey, let's 
    go in and do a senior prank."

618
00:29:49,622 --> 00:29:51,833
I threw around some stuff.

619
00:29:51,874 --> 00:29:53,876
I broke some stuff.

620
00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:58,089
It was, uh, life-changing     
          for me at that age.

621
00:29:59,048 --> 00:30:01,425
And it has to do with       
          this right here.

622
00:30:03,261 --> 00:30:05,179
And that's what started      
             the next part

623
00:30:05,221 --> 00:30:07,098
of Richard's bad decision.

624
00:30:07,723 --> 00:30:11,477
"Police apprehend         
   Central Lake vandal suspects,"

625
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:13,312
which is me. [sniffs]

626
00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:17,233
But right above this is      
 another title of a article about

627
00:30:17,275 --> 00:30:19,902
Richard Davis's company      
              and himself,

628
00:30:19,944 --> 00:30:23,656
and it says, "Bullet found    
     in Central Lake woman's home."

629
00:30:24,782 --> 00:30:26,993
During Richard Davis's      
               Pin Shoot,

630
00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:30,413
a bullet ricocheted        
       and flew through the woods

631
00:30:30,454 --> 00:30:33,541
into this lady's home       
          through a window.

632
00:30:33,583 --> 00:30:35,668
And, uh, she then, I guess,

633
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:37,753
proceeded to have a heart attack 
        or have some problems

634
00:30:37,795 --> 00:30:39,338
where she thought         
   she was having a heart attack,

635
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,632
and they had to bring in      
       a flight and take her.

636
00:30:41,674 --> 00:30:43,718
And so there was money       
     that was gonna be involved.

637
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:48,472
Richard saw the articles     
       and wanted to contact me.

638
00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:55,021
Thus his bad decision began       
   and took us down a crazy road.

639
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,441
pensive music

640
00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:02,403
He picks me up          
         in his Mercedes-Benz,

641
00:31:02,445 --> 00:31:05,948
and he takes me for a drive    
       back to his back property.

642
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:08,451
And it's way through the woods.

643
00:31:08,492 --> 00:31:10,369
There's one way in, one way out.

644
00:31:10,411 --> 00:31:13,623
And along the way,        
 he started telling me this story

645
00:31:13,664 --> 00:31:15,458
about these problems        
           that I'm having

646
00:31:15,499 --> 00:31:19,420
and these problems he's having   
    and how they might correlate.

647
00:31:19,462 --> 00:31:23,257
And he said,            
    "Well, you know what I think?

648
00:31:23,299 --> 00:31:27,470
I think you might've        
         got this crazy idea

649
00:31:27,511 --> 00:31:30,640
to just go             
     on a crazy vandalism spree

650
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,100
and go shoot a bullet       
     through this lady's window.

651
00:31:33,142 --> 00:31:34,977
You rode your bike         
        or whatever up there,

652
00:31:35,019 --> 00:31:38,898
took a slingshot and shot     
 this bullet through the window."

653
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,902
And I was like,          
       "Why would I do that?"

654
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:45,404
And he just said,         
     "My company could get sued

655
00:31:45,446 --> 00:31:47,490
for millions of dollars."

656
00:31:48,866 --> 00:31:51,160
And he said, "Well, I would    
     like to be your godfather.

657
00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:52,536
What are you gonna do?"

658
00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:54,163
You know, "What are you      
          gonna do in life?

659
00:31:54,205 --> 00:31:55,873
Are you gonna go to college?    
      I can take care of you."

660
00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:57,667
I believe this is         
     the same time he showed me

661
00:31:57,708 --> 00:31:59,877
what he called flash money.

662
00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:01,963
And, uh, it was          
          a stack of money.

663
00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:05,508
He said, "That-that could     
        eventually be yours."

664
00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:06,842
When I got to my side of the car

665
00:32:06,884 --> 00:32:08,219
and he got to his side       
             of the car,

666
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,429
he looked across          
          the top of his...

667
00:32:10,471 --> 00:32:12,431
I believe it was, like,      
       a lime green Mercedes.

668
00:32:12,473 --> 00:32:14,475
He looked right at me       
            and he said,

669
00:32:14,517 --> 00:32:19,313
"Listen, if you tell anyone,    
          I will kill you."

670
00:32:21,148 --> 00:32:23,526
[dog barking]

671
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,194
Once my dad heard that,

672
00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:27,488
he wanted to get a shotgun    
            and go get him.

673
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:29,115
But of course,

674
00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:31,200
that shotgun wouldn't help     
       [laughs] with Richard.

675
00:32:31,242 --> 00:32:35,871
You know, you need         
        an aircraft carrier.

676
00:32:35,913 --> 00:32:38,374
[rapid gunfire]

677
00:32:39,917 --> 00:32:42,461
[Ramin]              
    I want to ask you about Tim.

678
00:32:42,503 --> 00:32:44,130
Tim.

679
00:32:44,171 --> 00:32:46,882
Have you seen Tim         
        since this incident?

680
00:32:46,924 --> 00:32:48,050
No.

681
00:32:48,092 --> 00:32:50,219
Do you ever see him in town or--

682
00:32:50,261 --> 00:32:52,054
No. Uh, maybe.

683
00:32:52,096 --> 00:32:54,056
I never look for him, don't    
   really care about him anymore.

684
00:32:54,098 --> 00:32:56,350
Don't really care about him.

685
00:32:56,392 --> 00:32:59,562
dramatic music

686
00:32:59,603 --> 00:33:01,939
[Tim]   At that point,        
      I ended up going undercover

687
00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:03,733
for                
    Traverse City Narcotics Team.

688
00:33:03,774 --> 00:33:05,735
They came in, put a wire on me,

689
00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:09,280
and we had meetings,        
    and they explained, you know,

690
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:11,115
"Whenever he calls,        
          set up a meeting,

691
00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:13,200
and, you know,           
       w-we'll go from there."

692
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,663
Richard picked me up       
        in that green Mercedes,

693
00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:20,750
and we went out to, uh...

694
00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:22,293
I'm sorry,             
     I'm getting a little shaky

695
00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:25,004
'cause it just makes me      
           anxiety-ridden.

696
00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:28,340
I got in the vehicle with him,   
         and when we parked,

697
00:33:28,382 --> 00:33:31,177
the very first thing he did    
           is looked at me

698
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:34,597
and reached over          
     and started to pat me down.

699
00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:36,182
And, uh, I didn't know       
             what to do.

700
00:33:36,223 --> 00:33:38,350
I thought, "Oh, no."

701
00:33:38,392 --> 00:33:41,270
And then he touched my chest and 
    I knocked him off and I said,

702
00:33:41,312 --> 00:33:42,938
"What are you, a fag?"

703
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:44,899
Because I know           
       that was the best thing

704
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,234
for me to do at that moment.

705
00:33:47,276 --> 00:33:50,404
And, uh, he said, "No, no,     
    I'm just paranoid, paranoid."

706
00:33:50,446 --> 00:33:52,239
You know? And, um...

707
00:33:52,281 --> 00:33:55,284
After that,            
     he never touched me again.

708
00:33:57,244 --> 00:33:59,121
pensive music

709
00:33:59,163 --> 00:34:01,290
[Ramin]   Richard was charged    
      with obstruction of justice

710
00:34:01,332 --> 00:34:04,251
and a weapons possession felony.

711
00:34:04,293 --> 00:34:06,629
He was able to plead the charges 
         down to a misdemeanor,

712
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:08,380
pay a fine,

713
00:34:08,422 --> 00:34:11,467
and avoid a mandatory       
       two-year prison sentence.

714
00:34:12,426 --> 00:34:16,013
His Mercedes-Benz was impounded.

715
00:34:16,055 --> 00:34:19,225
[Tim]   With Richard Davis      
     being the most powerful person

716
00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:21,852
in the town, it's a lot easier 
          in your mind to say,

717
00:34:21,894 --> 00:34:23,395
"Oh, that kid's lying       
            and he did it,"

718
00:34:23,437 --> 00:34:25,147
but not look any further

719
00:34:25,189 --> 00:34:27,650
because that man's paying     
            your salary.

720
00:34:27,691 --> 00:34:29,944
[Ramin] And what did your mom   
     and dad think at that time?

721
00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:32,988
Oh, uh, it was horrible.

722
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:37,493
[voice breaking] My mom worked   
     at the local grocery store.

723
00:34:38,494 --> 00:34:40,788
She had to quit.

724
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:42,331
[sniffling]

725
00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:44,959
Sorry.

726
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,336
But I was very...

727
00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,588
brought a lot of shame       
            on my family.

728
00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:58,264
[Richard]   I regret         
       ever speaking to the guy.

729
00:34:58,305 --> 00:35:00,015
I never sh-should've       
             said anything.

730
00:35:00,057 --> 00:35:01,684
And, uh, I was wrong.

731
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:03,102
I was, I was wrong to, uh,

732
00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:04,520
try to investigate         
        the thing on my own.

733
00:35:04,562 --> 00:35:06,522
I shouldn't have done that,    
             but, uh...

734
00:35:06,564 --> 00:35:09,191
that's another inglorious     
       misstep there, really.

735
00:35:11,861 --> 00:35:13,571
Okay, little lower. Cock it up.

736
00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:15,364
[David Zeman]           
      Richard Davis made a career

737
00:35:15,406 --> 00:35:18,284
out of promoting his-his      
    protection of law enforcement

738
00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,619
and people who put themselves   
         at risk every day.

739
00:35:20,661 --> 00:35:23,706
But in his actions,        
      when push came to shove,

740
00:35:23,747 --> 00:35:25,749
he was more about         
         protecting himself.

741
00:35:29,962 --> 00:35:32,506
[Ramin]   Did you ever        
        meet Richard in person?

742
00:35:32,548 --> 00:35:34,175
[David]   No.            
      Neither he nor his attorneys

743
00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:36,010
would talk with us.

744
00:35:36,051 --> 00:35:38,846
But we were able to get      
     a lot of deposition testimony

745
00:35:38,888 --> 00:35:41,807
from him             
      and some of his colleagues.

746
00:35:41,849 --> 00:35:43,309
[Ramin]              
      Can you please read this?

747
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:44,560
I'll read a section of it.

748
00:35:44,602 --> 00:35:46,437
This section here.

749
00:35:48,439 --> 00:35:50,566
Oh, that's from that stupid    
         Detroit News   article.

750
00:35:50,608 --> 00:35:52,234
Which, uh...

751
00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:54,612
Ah. Oh, man.

752
00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:57,281
This is all, God...

753
00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:02,161
[David]              
 We followed the police reports,

754
00:36:02,203 --> 00:36:05,080
and he always seems        
       to escape un-unscathed

755
00:36:05,122 --> 00:36:07,917
and throw everyone else      
      under the bus around him.

756
00:36:10,419 --> 00:36:11,879
[crowd cheering]

757
00:36:11,921 --> 00:36:13,547
Richard Davis           
          had been putting on

758
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:15,507
firework displays every summer.

759
00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:20,387
At the display in 1997,      
       something tragic happened.

760
00:36:20,429 --> 00:36:22,806
One of the canisters       
         that had the fireworks

761
00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:24,475
exploded on the ground,

762
00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:26,352
and shrapnel just, uh,      
        went all over the place.

763
00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:28,437
[crowd screaming]

764
00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:33,108
[Kathleen]             
         People were screaming.

765
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:35,569
And one lost an arm and a leg,

766
00:36:35,611 --> 00:36:38,656
and another one was killed     
      in front of his children.

767
00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:40,658
I said apologizing         
      would've been an insult,

768
00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,159
you know what I'm saying?     
       "Oh, please forgive me

769
00:36:42,201 --> 00:36:43,702
for killing your husband there." 
              You know?

770
00:36:43,744 --> 00:36:45,537
And you can't...

771
00:36:45,579 --> 00:36:48,749
You know, I wish I could      
 push a button, do it over again.

772
00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:52,419
We had the empty boxes      
       we took the shells out of.

773
00:36:52,461 --> 00:36:54,463
There's all this Chinese writing 
              all over it.

774
00:36:54,505 --> 00:36:56,048
Well, we finally get       
        somebody to translate it

775
00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:57,716
and look up in China,

776
00:36:57,758 --> 00:37:00,636
and there was no such company   
        and no such address.

777
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:03,305
These people knew         
         they're making crap

778
00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:05,474
and th-they're           
     deliberately disguising it.

779
00:37:05,516 --> 00:37:07,434
And everybody's pointing at me   
      like it's my fault, so--

780
00:37:07,476 --> 00:37:09,311
Well, that-that's America     
              for you.

781
00:37:10,312 --> 00:37:12,940
[David]              
     He was charged with felonies.

782
00:37:12,982 --> 00:37:16,735
I-I believe those were      
        bargained down as well.

783
00:37:16,777 --> 00:37:18,487
And from what we found      
          in the court records

784
00:37:18,529 --> 00:37:21,782
up in Northern Michigan      
   is what led us back to Detroit

785
00:37:21,824 --> 00:37:24,410
and the incident         
          with the pizza shop.

786
00:37:24,451 --> 00:37:26,287
[Tim]               
           He had a business,

787
00:37:26,328 --> 00:37:29,206
and, uh, he explained       
     that he burnt this business

788
00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:32,209
for the money           
    to finance the next business.

789
00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:36,297
And, um, that's on tape      
    somewhere in some transcript

790
00:37:36,338 --> 00:37:38,340
because I was wired        
         when that was said.

791
00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,218
[Ramin]              
       We searched for Tim's wire

792
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,387
but were told by         
          Traverse City Police

793
00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:46,181
that it had been         
         disposed of years ago.

794
00:37:47,141 --> 00:37:50,227
On December 31, 1969,

795
00:37:50,269 --> 00:37:54,356
Richard took out $5,000 worth   
     of insurance on his pizzerias.

796
00:37:54,398 --> 00:37:57,693
Six days later,          
           they burned down.

797
00:37:58,986 --> 00:38:01,488
But when I pressed Richard    
          on the arson again,

798
00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:03,782
his answer was the same.

799
00:38:03,824 --> 00:38:06,869
[Richard]   Everybody assumed    
      that I had insurance on it.

800
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:08,287
They're running around       
         all over the place.

801
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,414
Well, if you find         
        an insurance policy,

802
00:38:10,456 --> 00:38:12,416
[laughs] I'll split the money   
        with you, pal, okay?

803
00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:13,876
I just ain't got one.

804
00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:15,711
And, yeah, that drives me nuts.

805
00:38:15,753 --> 00:38:17,254
F-Fifty years later,

806
00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:18,172
I'm still being asked       
        about this, you know.

807
00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:19,548
Good God Almighty.

808
00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:27,389
[Tim]   How could somebody      
           that I thought was

809
00:38:27,431 --> 00:38:29,975
a savior of people be somebody

810
00:38:30,017 --> 00:38:33,103
that's not on the other end    
        when no one's around?

811
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:38,108
I think we all have        
        that particle potential.

812
00:38:39,193 --> 00:38:40,694
I-I'm beginning to study,

813
00:38:40,736 --> 00:38:44,698
uh, Taoism and-and         
     some ancient philosophies.

814
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:46,200
And I think            
       it's like the yin yang.

815
00:38:46,241 --> 00:38:48,202
Life is right smack        
           in the middle,

816
00:38:48,243 --> 00:38:50,287
and the yin and the yang      
          are good and bad.

817
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:53,123
All our lives, we're gonna     
    have good and bad come at us.

818
00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:56,085
Richard Davis's and my life    
        was a bad situation,

819
00:38:56,126 --> 00:38:57,461
but he was a positive thing

820
00:38:57,503 --> 00:38:58,837
in the other end          
         of the yin and yang

821
00:38:58,879 --> 00:39:00,714
in a lot of people's lives.

822
00:39:00,756 --> 00:39:03,425
He saved those people's lives   
    with those bulletproof vests.

823
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:06,929
So, um, the question is      
       at the end of the day:

824
00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:08,764
When they put you in the ground,

825
00:39:08,806 --> 00:39:10,974
how big-- what does        
      your yin yang look like?

826
00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:13,394
Is there more good or more bad?

827
00:39:13,435 --> 00:39:15,104
I'm hoping             
      that mine has more good.

828
00:39:15,145 --> 00:39:16,605
That's my goal.

829
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:30,577
I'm alone now.

830
00:39:30,619 --> 00:39:32,579
The camera's running        
           automatically.

831
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:36,875
This is where you're gonna be   
        when you die, alone.

832
00:39:36,917 --> 00:39:39,962
No matter if there's        
    a thousand people around you,

833
00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:41,797
you're gonna be alone.

834
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:43,799
[Ramin]   Richard deleted      
       this scene from his film.

835
00:39:43,841 --> 00:39:46,385
He said it was too mushy.

836
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:50,722
Here, imagining his own death, 
       he gives a final soliloquy

837
00:39:50,764 --> 00:39:53,308
to the police officers      
           he hopes to save.

838
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:55,477
[Richard on video]         
            I'm scared now,

839
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:58,230
so damn scared I can feel it,

840
00:39:58,272 --> 00:40:00,399
because I know

841
00:40:00,441 --> 00:40:02,943
that how well           
   this has been presented to you

842
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,070
is going to determine

843
00:40:05,112 --> 00:40:08,365
whether or not many of you     
          will live or die.

844
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:13,036
[Ramin] Richard,          
    why do you have this burden?

845
00:40:14,705 --> 00:40:16,457
[exhales heavily]         
        Because I can do it.

846
00:40:16,498 --> 00:40:18,500
I can save these people.

847
00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,002
And, uh...

848
00:40:21,378 --> 00:40:24,006
...if I don't, uh, it feels,

849
00:40:24,047 --> 00:40:25,591
you know, to some degree      
           it's my fault.

850
00:40:25,632 --> 00:40:27,426
I didn't make the vests      
            light enough

851
00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:30,345
or [sighs] maybe if        
       I would've shot one...

852
00:40:31,722 --> 00:40:33,849
...would've got shot        
        some-some other time,

853
00:40:33,891 --> 00:40:35,350
a couple more times        
            or something,

854
00:40:35,392 --> 00:40:36,685
maybe that would've made      
      a difference to somebody.

855
00:40:36,727 --> 00:40:38,770
And, uh...

856
00:40:38,812 --> 00:40:39,855
[sighs]

857
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:43,358
My dad warned me.

858
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,696
He says, "There's gonna be times 
     when you don't save the guy."

859
00:40:47,738 --> 00:40:51,909
Oh, gee, you know,         
        just the... [groans]

860
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:53,994
That's the way it is.

861
00:40:54,036 --> 00:40:57,039
Just, uh... go on         
       and save the next guy.

862
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,333
Just don't-don't sit there     
         and moan about it.

863
00:40:59,374 --> 00:41:00,834
Just-- you can't.

864
00:41:00,876 --> 00:41:02,586
pensive music

865
00:41:04,254 --> 00:41:05,589
Historically,           
          body armor would not

866
00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:07,508
have saved President Lincoln.

867
00:41:08,509 --> 00:41:10,719
It would not have saved      
            John F. Kennedy.

868
00:41:13,222 --> 00:41:15,265
Would've saved George Wallace.

869
00:41:17,768 --> 00:41:19,978
Would've saved Malcolm X.

870
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:21,563
[gunshot]

871
00:41:21,605 --> 00:41:22,898
And probably would've saved    
            half the people

872
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,900
at the Battle of Gettysburg.

873
00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:28,946
You know, what if?

874
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,533
My dad was in the Marines.

875
00:41:32,574 --> 00:41:36,411
February 1945, news was full   
     of stories about this island,

876
00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:38,914
Iwo Jima, where hundreds     
 and then thousands of casualties

877
00:41:38,956 --> 00:41:41,166
were being taken every day.    
               Every day.

878
00:41:41,208 --> 00:41:43,418
[Ramin]              
     Were they wearing body armor?

879
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:45,254
[Richard]             
            No, none at all.

880
00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:48,340
My dad's best friend,       
     on the first day of Iwo Jima,

881
00:41:48,382 --> 00:41:51,760
a mortar shell came down     
       and blew the guy to bits.

882
00:41:51,802 --> 00:41:53,262
And, uh, my dad          
       had to spend the night

883
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:56,807
with, uh, pieces          
       of his best friend, um,

884
00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:59,309
right around, right around     
        the foxhole, I think.

885
00:41:59,351 --> 00:42:01,228
Um...

886
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:04,815
Then he had nothing else better   
      to do on this little island

887
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,276
than go on            
       a five-week killing spree.

888
00:42:09,778 --> 00:42:11,613
[Ramin]              
 Richard told me his first memory

889
00:42:11,655 --> 00:42:13,115
was sitting on the porch swing

890
00:42:13,156 --> 00:42:15,450
between his mother        
            and grandmother,

891
00:42:15,492 --> 00:42:17,411
waiting for            
         the unthinkable horror

892
00:42:17,452 --> 00:42:20,789
of the gray Navy staff car    
       coming with death notices.

893
00:42:22,291 --> 00:42:26,128
For six weeks, they sat there, 
        until the sun went down,

894
00:42:26,169 --> 00:42:29,131
and he knew            
        his father had survived.

895
00:42:30,591 --> 00:42:34,553
When his father returned home, 
       he never spoke of the war.

896
00:42:36,138 --> 00:42:38,974
Richard, however,         
           spoke of it often.

897
00:42:39,016 --> 00:42:43,270
Perhaps he created his persona,   
          real and fictional,

898
00:42:43,312 --> 00:42:45,897
on an experience         
           he had never had,

899
00:42:45,939 --> 00:42:48,150
his life more like an echo.

900
00:42:54,698 --> 00:42:55,991
So, we grew up with the war.

901
00:42:56,033 --> 00:42:58,493
That was a,            
        you know, a good war.

902
00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:00,329
They say that World War II     
       was the last good war,

903
00:43:00,370 --> 00:43:02,164
where the-the bad guys       
           were really bad

904
00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:04,333
and the good guys         
     were really good. [laughs]

905
00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:05,876
And now it gets so muddled

906
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:08,837
and, uh, twisted around      
           and everything.

907
00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:12,716
[Ramin]              
 Richard enlisted in the Marines,

908
00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:16,053
but unlike his father,      
         he was never deployed.

909
00:43:16,094 --> 00:43:18,930
Did you have a lot to prove    
       to your father growing up?

910
00:43:18,972 --> 00:43:21,558
Yeah, I-I, uh...

911
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,771
had a hard time, you know,     
       getting approval, I...

912
00:43:25,812 --> 00:43:28,190
mainly 'cause, uh, you know,

913
00:43:28,231 --> 00:43:31,193
I-I couldn't go to Iwo Jima    
    or anything, you know, so...

914
00:43:31,234 --> 00:43:34,529
Uh, very high, very high bar    
          there, you know?

915
00:43:35,155 --> 00:43:38,158
Only a few times where I've been 
         shot by somebody else.

916
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,036
And this just sounds really,   
     boy, soldier of fortune here,

917
00:43:41,078 --> 00:43:43,997
but I wanted somebody       
        who's coldblooded enough

918
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:45,874
that he's not gonna go, "Oh,"   
   flinch away at the last second,

919
00:43:45,916 --> 00:43:47,042
blow my elbow off, you know.

920
00:43:47,084 --> 00:43:48,960
So this is my father.

921
00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:53,548
Uh, last time he shot a man    
   was on a place called Iwo Jima.

922
00:43:54,508 --> 00:43:56,134
Right over here.          
       Right-- oh, whoa, whoa.

923
00:43:56,176 --> 00:43:57,135
[laughs]

924
00:43:57,177 --> 00:43:58,595
Uh, let it go, Dad.

925
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,972
Unload 'em.

926
00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:13,860
Okay.

927
00:44:13,902 --> 00:44:15,278
You'll get the idea. One more.

928
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,571
That's good.

929
00:44:16,613 --> 00:44:18,073
[Ramin]              
        Despite Richard's pleas,

930
00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:20,450
his father could not       
             stop shooting,

931
00:44:20,492 --> 00:44:24,079
in a silent trance,        
        firing over and over...

932
00:44:25,872 --> 00:44:28,625
...ultimately shooting      
          at his son's groin.

933
00:44:35,424 --> 00:44:37,676
[Matt Davis]   My grandfather    
         was a great salesman,

934
00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:39,636
a great leader.

935
00:44:40,220 --> 00:44:45,100
And he played a huge role     
       in my father's success

936
00:44:45,142 --> 00:44:47,436
in building Second Chance.

937
00:44:48,437 --> 00:44:52,941
Because my father         
           has no filter, um,

938
00:44:52,983 --> 00:44:55,026
I think my grandfather      
        played an important role

939
00:44:55,068 --> 00:44:57,070
in helping to keep my dad     
            kind of focused

940
00:44:57,112 --> 00:44:59,197
and on the right path.

941
00:45:04,244 --> 00:45:05,454
[phone ringing]

942
00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:07,080
He pretty much ran the office

943
00:45:07,122 --> 00:45:10,041
and built             
        the sales organization.

944
00:45:10,083 --> 00:45:12,252
He was also tough as nails.

945
00:45:12,878 --> 00:45:15,172
One time, my dad said,      
        "Your grandfather and I

946
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:17,007
want to have           
        a conversation with you.

947
00:45:17,048 --> 00:45:18,800
What do you want to do      
      when you get out of school?"

948
00:45:18,842 --> 00:45:20,427
I said, "Well, I was       
 thinking about going to college

949
00:45:20,469 --> 00:45:22,929
and then going to med school."

950
00:45:22,971 --> 00:45:26,016
And my grandfather         
       has a glass of bourbon

951
00:45:26,057 --> 00:45:27,601
or whiskey or something,

952
00:45:27,642 --> 00:45:31,146
and he just slams it down     
        on this glass table.

953
00:45:31,188 --> 00:45:32,564
Bam!

954
00:45:32,606 --> 00:45:34,524
And he looks at me         
      and he goes, "Business!"

955
00:45:34,566 --> 00:45:35,609
Just like that.

956
00:45:35,650 --> 00:45:38,153
soft music

957
00:45:42,491 --> 00:45:44,159
[Aaron]              
     I've always thought to myself

958
00:45:44,201 --> 00:45:46,161
that his father was

959
00:45:46,203 --> 00:45:48,121
his moral compass.

960
00:45:48,163 --> 00:45:49,998
I think peop-- other executives

961
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,625
within the company         
           knew that, too.

962
00:45:51,666 --> 00:45:53,335
They were thinking, you know,

963
00:45:53,376 --> 00:45:55,837
"Oh, we got to reel him in     
     a little bit. Get his dad."

964
00:45:56,463 --> 00:45:59,883
When he passed away,       
     I think Second Chance changed.

965
00:46:01,009 --> 00:46:02,469
[Ramin]              
            Richard's father

966
00:46:02,511 --> 00:46:04,971
cast a large shadow        
             over his life,

967
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:08,225
so I can imagine his legacy    
          looming over Richard

968
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:12,312
when he arrived in that      
 dark alleyway in Detroit in 1970

969
00:46:12,354 --> 00:46:14,356
with two large pizzas.

970
00:46:18,151 --> 00:46:20,529
When investigative journalists 
               in Detroit

971
00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:22,781
looked into            
        Richard's origin story,

972
00:46:22,823 --> 00:46:24,491
they could not find any proof

973
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:26,701
the alleyway shooting       
             had happened.

974
00:46:35,502 --> 00:46:37,838
Matt and I, we searched      
      through all the records.

975
00:46:37,879 --> 00:46:40,298
We found a, we found a copy    
    of the Detroit police report,

976
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:42,509
and we sent it to the-- I sent,

977
00:46:42,551 --> 00:46:44,135
I sent it to the reporters     
         at the   Detroit News

978
00:46:44,177 --> 00:46:46,429
with a "fuck you" note       
     or something and whatever.

979
00:46:46,471 --> 00:46:48,682
I don't know. Idiots, you know. 
          And there it is.

980
00:46:48,723 --> 00:46:51,017
They-they never, they never    
 printed a correction, of course.

981
00:46:51,059 --> 00:46:52,894
[Ramin]              
           May I see that?

982
00:46:52,936 --> 00:46:55,063
Jesus. Uh...

983
00:46:56,189 --> 00:46:57,566
Whew.

984
00:46:57,607 --> 00:46:59,150
Ah, boy, I-I don't--

985
00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:00,861
Matt might have--         
     M-Matt might have saved it.

986
00:47:00,902 --> 00:47:02,112
Saves a lot of stuff.       
          He might have it.

987
00:47:03,238 --> 00:47:05,991
[Ramin]   His son Matt        
          did not have a copy.

988
00:47:06,032 --> 00:47:10,328
We found a low-resolution one   
 in an obscure gun forum online,

989
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:13,623
but we could not verify      
            if it was real.

990
00:47:13,665 --> 00:47:16,751
I asked Richard          
      if it was all a fabrication.

991
00:47:16,793 --> 00:47:18,753
[laughs]              
      No, I'm not making it up.

992
00:47:18,795 --> 00:47:20,839
And, oh, oh, I got one for you.

993
00:47:20,881 --> 00:47:22,841
Uh, geez.

994
00:47:22,883 --> 00:47:24,551
The wedding book          
        or wedding pictures.

995
00:47:24,593 --> 00:47:26,678
My wedding pictures, okay?

996
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,929
You see me             
      in the wedding pictures,

997
00:47:27,971 --> 00:47:29,139
scar's right here,         
          stitches, right?

998
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:30,932
Still in stitches.

999
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,477
[Ramin]              
       When I look at this photo,

1000
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:36,187
I do not see a scar.

1001
00:47:36,229 --> 00:47:38,565
I see a cowlick in his eyebrow.

1002
00:47:39,149 --> 00:47:42,986
And frustratingly,        
 in all the other wedding photos,

1003
00:47:43,028 --> 00:47:45,113
the evidence is          
          turned away from us,

1004
00:47:45,155 --> 00:47:47,782
obscured, hidden from view.

1005
00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:55,332
[Aaron]              
     And not only was it me getting

1006
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:58,585
fooled, perhaps, it was, like,   
        everybody. [chuckles]

1007
00:47:58,627 --> 00:48:00,211
And perhaps I'm blocking it

1008
00:48:00,253 --> 00:48:02,881
because I... I really don't    
      want to believe anything

1009
00:48:02,923 --> 00:48:04,633
but the myth.

1010
00:48:06,343 --> 00:48:08,386
The legend.

1011
00:48:19,147 --> 00:48:22,609
[Kathleen]   Richard strikes me   
         as being a narcissist.

1012
00:48:22,651 --> 00:48:25,695
His mind never turns off.

1013
00:48:25,737 --> 00:48:29,324
He thinks out loud,        
        and that was a problem.

1014
00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:34,120
Richard could never be quiet.

1015
00:48:34,162 --> 00:48:36,539
[laughs]              
    He just never could be quiet.

1016
00:48:41,294 --> 00:48:45,632
You come out of this gorgeous   
         woods to this... just

1017
00:48:45,674 --> 00:48:49,594
back range where          
     they would test explosives.

1018
00:48:49,636 --> 00:48:52,013
And they're running        
      big .50-cal machine guns.

1019
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,141
Boom-de-boom-de-boom.       
      Shakes the china cupboard

1020
00:48:55,183 --> 00:48:57,227
all the way up by my house.

1021
00:49:05,485 --> 00:49:07,654
Richard and his followers

1022
00:49:07,696 --> 00:49:09,906
who come up here         
          and blow things up,

1023
00:49:09,948 --> 00:49:13,034
it's as though the profane     
        had been plunked down

1024
00:49:13,076 --> 00:49:14,828
in the center of the sacred.

1025
00:49:14,869 --> 00:49:16,997
dramatic music

1026
00:49:24,212 --> 00:49:26,339
They don't see it.

1027
00:49:26,381 --> 00:49:28,800
They don't see it,        
 all these people coming up and,

1028
00:49:28,842 --> 00:49:30,510
"Oh, I love to go out in nature

1029
00:49:30,552 --> 00:49:32,220
and camp out            
        and stuff like that."

1030
00:49:34,139 --> 00:49:36,141
There's nothing left behind them

1031
00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:39,894
but smoke and smell        
            and destruction.

1032
00:49:42,564 --> 00:49:45,567
There's nothing really creative   
        or reparative about it.

1033
00:49:45,608 --> 00:49:47,694
[rapid gunfire]

1034
00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:54,784
The world would probably be    
     better off without people,

1035
00:49:54,826 --> 00:49:57,829
and that's probably        
       what's going to happen.

1036
00:49:57,871 --> 00:50:01,708
I-I believe that it will,     
      the way we're going now.

1037
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:06,004
Um, I think            
     that we'll become extinct,

1038
00:50:06,046 --> 00:50:10,175
and then the world will heal    
          after we're gone.

1039
00:50:10,216 --> 00:50:12,761
-[clamoring]            
          -[sirens wailing]

1040
00:50:18,224 --> 00:50:19,934
[helicopter whirring]

1041
00:50:19,976 --> 00:50:22,562
[Richard]   On 9/11,         
        I came into the factory.

1042
00:50:22,604 --> 00:50:24,773
On the TV set,          
      one tower is burning there.

1043
00:50:24,814 --> 00:50:25,940
For a few minutes there,      
           I was thinking

1044
00:50:25,982 --> 00:50:27,734
it was an accident, you know.

1045
00:50:27,776 --> 00:50:29,527
And then [imitates plane crash] 
        comes the second one.

1046
00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:31,946
I said, "We're gonna get busy."

1047
00:50:33,907 --> 00:50:35,450
This is gonna mean doves

1048
00:50:35,492 --> 00:50:36,951
are gonna turn into hawks,

1049
00:50:36,993 --> 00:50:39,120
and hawks are gonna        
         turn into vampires.

1050
00:50:40,455 --> 00:50:42,290
America united like that was

1051
00:50:42,332 --> 00:50:44,292
a really fearsome         
          international thing.

1052
00:50:44,334 --> 00:50:46,628
Everybody just, whoa--      
       you got a real superpower

1053
00:50:46,669 --> 00:50:48,296
that's not taking         
 a lot of bullshit from anybody.

1054
00:50:48,338 --> 00:50:49,464
N-Nobody's gonna          
        stand there and say,

1055
00:50:49,506 --> 00:50:50,590
"Oh, we shouldn't be so cruel."

1056
00:50:50,632 --> 00:50:51,758
No, boom, kill 'em all.

1057
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,760
[explosion]

1058
00:50:53,802 --> 00:50:55,804
[whooping, shouting]

1059
00:50:55,845 --> 00:50:57,639
Iraq never had a chance.

1060
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,183
The technology was there,     
        we just flattened them.

1061
00:51:00,225 --> 00:51:01,976
[soldiers shouting]

1062
00:51:02,018 --> 00:51:03,812
[Ramin]              
      America invaded a country

1063
00:51:03,853 --> 00:51:05,480
that had nothing to do with it.

1064
00:51:05,522 --> 00:51:07,941
Uh, well, in all wars,

1065
00:51:07,982 --> 00:51:09,984
more people get killed       
    by accident than on purpose.

1066
00:51:13,071 --> 00:51:14,989
[Ramin]              
      As the war on terror began,

1067
00:51:15,031 --> 00:51:17,742
Second Chance's sales       
              skyrocketed

1068
00:51:17,784 --> 00:51:19,661
from government contracts.

1069
00:51:19,702 --> 00:51:21,996
The company planned        
      to go public on Wall Street,

1070
00:51:22,038 --> 00:51:25,667
and they had a new product    
     to help them meet the moment.

1071
00:51:27,627 --> 00:51:30,171
We're gonna introduce to you    
             the newest,

1072
00:51:30,213 --> 00:51:33,967
lightest vest ever made      
    in the history of the world.

1073
00:51:34,008 --> 00:51:37,011
I am 55 years old,

1074
00:51:37,053 --> 00:51:41,850
about 55 pounds overweight,    
    and this concealed body armor

1075
00:51:41,891 --> 00:51:46,437
only weighs            
    0.55 pounds per square foot.

1076
00:51:47,397 --> 00:51:50,775
Three, two, one.

1077
00:51:55,905 --> 00:51:58,992
The bullet is embedded here    
            in the Zylon.

1078
00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:03,371
Along comes this fiber Zylon.

1079
00:52:03,413 --> 00:52:05,707
Holy moly, this is really great.

1080
00:52:05,748 --> 00:52:08,751
'Cause basically,         
      lighter, thinner, stronger.

1081
00:52:08,793 --> 00:52:10,211
The dream of every armor maker.

1082
00:52:10,253 --> 00:52:11,754
Wow.

1083
00:52:12,714 --> 00:52:14,340
To me, it was something

1084
00:52:14,382 --> 00:52:16,634
that I thought was         
   a once-in-a-lifetime discovery.

1085
00:52:16,676 --> 00:52:20,430
And we announced it by saying,   
   "There's a new sheriff in town,

1086
00:52:20,471 --> 00:52:22,390
and it's called Zylon."

1087
00:52:23,016 --> 00:52:26,853
[Aaron]   It was advertised     
      as, uh, Kevlar on steroids.

1088
00:52:26,895 --> 00:52:29,480
It was an amazing product     
           at that point.

1089
00:52:29,522 --> 00:52:31,733
[Ramin]   The Zylon         
       going into their vests was

1090
00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:33,484
a revolutionary new fiber,

1091
00:52:33,526 --> 00:52:36,905
and Second Chance had       
        a brief exclusive window

1092
00:52:36,946 --> 00:52:39,073
to research, develop and sell it

1093
00:52:39,115 --> 00:52:42,202
before their competitors     
           would gain access

1094
00:52:42,243 --> 00:52:44,495
and cut into their profits.

1095
00:52:46,289 --> 00:52:49,083
Aaron had become         
         director of research,

1096
00:52:49,125 --> 00:52:50,710
reporting to Ed Bachner.

1097
00:52:50,752 --> 00:52:53,588
A former Marine from Texas,    
            Ed is a chemist

1098
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:55,757
who used to run          
     DuPont's body armor division,

1099
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:57,926
famous for its use of Kevlar.

1100
00:52:58,635 --> 00:53:01,304
In his basement, he showed us   
         how he liked to relax:

1101
00:53:01,346 --> 00:53:03,097
making bullets.

1102
00:53:04,641 --> 00:53:06,267
There it is.

1103
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:09,896
That's a 185-grain,        
   .45 ACP jacketed hollow point.

1104
00:53:09,938 --> 00:53:13,024
I shoot them as fast        
     as I load them. [chuckles]

1105
00:53:13,066 --> 00:53:14,943
[Aaron]              
     Ed Bachner is a heck of a guy,

1106
00:53:14,984 --> 00:53:17,028
and he could be          
       really stringent about,

1107
00:53:17,070 --> 00:53:18,655
"You got to know this."

1108
00:53:19,656 --> 00:53:22,033
So he trained me         
        about ballistic testing.

1109
00:53:22,075 --> 00:53:25,828
In 2001, I was called in     
        by the general manager,

1110
00:53:25,870 --> 00:53:28,581
and he showed me

1111
00:53:28,623 --> 00:53:33,628
a five- or six-page memo     
     coming from the Zylon factory.

1112
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:35,797
Obviously, I'm not a chemist    
       or mechanical engineer,

1113
00:53:35,838 --> 00:53:37,298
but I can read [chuckles], okay?

1114
00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:39,968
And it's CYA.

1115
00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:41,427
It's a cover-your-ass report.

1116
00:53:41,469 --> 00:53:44,389
Zylon seems to be degrading.

1117
00:53:45,682 --> 00:53:47,850
I said, "We may have problems."

1118
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,828
[Ramin] And did you and Richard 
          test it together?

1119
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:33,873
Yeah, right here          
        in the shop, we did.

1120
00:55:33,915 --> 00:55:36,334
We took and put a phone book    
            on the floor

1121
00:55:36,376 --> 00:55:39,545
and put the vest over       
   the top of it, and he tried...

1122
00:55:39,587 --> 00:55:41,506
I can't remember          
   what round he was shooting now.

1123
00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:43,091
But anyways, he shot at it,

1124
00:55:43,132 --> 00:55:44,634
and the damn thing         
     went right through the vest

1125
00:55:44,675 --> 00:55:47,261
and the phone book         
         and hit the floor.

1126
00:55:48,971 --> 00:55:50,515
I'm going, "Holy crap."

1127
00:55:51,557 --> 00:55:53,226
If I don't make it through this,

1128
00:55:53,267 --> 00:55:54,936
this does not mean concealed    
       body armor doesn't work

1129
00:55:54,977 --> 00:55:56,437
or Second Chance ain't good.

1130
00:55:56,479 --> 00:55:58,189
It means that I screwed up     
           on a new vest.

1131
00:55:58,231 --> 00:55:59,941
The standard           
         for our body armor is:

1132
00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:02,985
Will I stand there        
     and shoot myself on the chest?

1133
00:56:03,945 --> 00:56:06,697
The answer became: well, maybe.

1134
00:56:06,739 --> 00:56:07,949
[gun cocks]

1135
00:56:16,582 --> 00:56:18,126
Okay, camerapeople.

1136
00:56:19,877 --> 00:56:22,880
Three, two, one.

1137
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,052
[indistinct chatter, chuckling]

1138
00:56:28,094 --> 00:56:30,721
Okay, wow,             
     I felt it, even through...

1139
00:56:30,763 --> 00:56:32,140
whew, even through         
          everything else.

1140
00:56:32,181 --> 00:56:34,142
pensive music

1141
00:56:36,936 --> 00:56:38,771
[Kathleen]             
       I thought the Zylon vests

1142
00:56:38,813 --> 00:56:41,315
should have been         
         immediately withdrawn.

1143
00:56:42,942 --> 00:56:45,361
But he didn't think        
           that he could.

1144
00:56:45,403 --> 00:56:49,866
I reminded him that        
    he owned 51% of the company,

1145
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:52,201
and that up to this point,

1146
00:56:52,243 --> 00:56:56,164
nobody ever told him        
         he couldn't do it.

1147
00:56:58,207 --> 00:56:59,792
[Aaron]              
        Initially, Richard said,

1148
00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:02,003
"Aaron, you're gonna       
             give a talk."

1149
00:57:02,044 --> 00:57:03,921
I had a piece of paper written

1150
00:57:03,963 --> 00:57:05,506
pretty much            
      by Richard Davis saying,

1151
00:57:05,548 --> 00:57:08,092
"This is              
      what's really happening."

1152
00:57:08,134 --> 00:57:09,594
And right beforehand,

1153
00:57:09,635 --> 00:57:11,554
lawyer or the general manager   
          take it from me,

1154
00:57:11,596 --> 00:57:13,431
and I'd be like,          
     "You're kidding me, right?"

1155
00:57:13,473 --> 00:57:16,142
And I looked at Richard,      
         and he'd be like...

1156
00:57:17,477 --> 00:57:21,022
[Ramin] This was a memo       
       your dad wrote in 2002.

1157
00:57:21,063 --> 00:57:22,523
Would you read it         
           for me, please?

1158
00:57:25,443 --> 00:57:26,819
Yeah.

1159
00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:29,322
Interesting.

1160
00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:34,410
I remember seeing this long ago,

1161
00:57:34,452 --> 00:57:39,499
but, um, been a long time     
          since I saw that.

1162
00:57:41,334 --> 00:57:42,877
Is this dated?

1163
00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,339
July 29, 2002.

1164
00:57:48,257 --> 00:57:50,134
[Ramin]              
       In his memo to the board,

1165
00:57:50,176 --> 00:57:53,221
Richard stated that Zylon     
       was degrading much faster

1166
00:57:53,262 --> 00:57:56,265
than the fibers          
 they had previously been using.

1167
00:57:56,307 --> 00:57:58,267
He wanted the board to sign,

1168
00:57:58,309 --> 00:58:01,062
admitting they were        
        selling defective vests

1169
00:58:01,103 --> 00:58:04,315
to unsuspecting          
        American law enforcement

1170
00:58:04,357 --> 00:58:08,569
and military who could be killed 
     or wounded in their products.

1171
00:58:09,153 --> 00:58:13,658
Richard was unable        
       to stand up to the board,

1172
00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:16,160
and ironically,          
        he had put into writing

1173
00:58:16,202 --> 00:58:19,247
an unintentional admission    
               of guilt.

1174
00:58:19,288 --> 00:58:23,251
The company knew         
 Zylon was putting lives at risk.

1175
00:58:27,255 --> 00:58:30,216
[Aaron]   Richard must've      
      given out one to everybody,

1176
00:58:30,258 --> 00:58:32,343
and then, uh,           
        it didn't take long.

1177
00:58:32,969 --> 00:58:35,429
Matt came back down        
          and wanted to know,

1178
00:58:35,471 --> 00:58:38,224
"Where's that memo I gave you?"

1179
00:58:39,392 --> 00:58:41,394
And I went upstairs. I--

1180
00:58:41,435 --> 00:58:43,312
Upstairs with           
 the other board members, right?

1181
00:58:43,354 --> 00:58:46,732
And there, yeah, sure as heck... 
              [laughs]

1182
00:58:46,774 --> 00:58:48,734
you got the lawyer

1183
00:58:48,776 --> 00:58:50,236
and Matt and Karen,

1184
00:58:50,278 --> 00:58:52,780
and they were putting it      
          in the shredder.

1185
00:58:52,822 --> 00:58:54,949
[Ramin] But how do you know    
     it was that memo and not--

1186
00:58:54,991 --> 00:58:57,577
Because I-I walked in,       
             and it was.

1187
00:58:57,618 --> 00:58:59,412
And, um...

1188
00:59:00,538 --> 00:59:03,291
...I gave him back the memo,    
       but I had a copy of it.

1189
00:59:05,751 --> 00:59:09,880
Richard came home and said,    
       "Somebody's gonna die!"

1190
00:59:09,922 --> 00:59:11,924
And stomping around the den.

1191
00:59:11,966 --> 00:59:14,302
I said, "What are you       
         gonna do about it?

1192
00:59:14,343 --> 00:59:17,221
You must do something about it."

1193
00:59:17,847 --> 00:59:22,018
Richard was just having some   
      sort of a fight in his head,

1194
00:59:22,059 --> 00:59:25,271
and I couldn't touch it,     
        I couldn't deal with it.

1195
00:59:26,856 --> 00:59:28,733
I couldn't do anything.

1196
00:59:28,774 --> 00:59:31,652
Talking to me           
     is like talking to the dog.

1197
00:59:35,698 --> 00:59:38,326
From the time           
        he said that to me...

1198
00:59:39,493 --> 00:59:41,579
...it was like            
       somebody pushed a timer

1199
00:59:41,621 --> 00:59:43,164
and it was ticking in my head.

1200
00:59:43,205 --> 00:59:45,166
dramatic music

1201
01:00:02,266 --> 01:00:05,061
[Jamie Zeppetella]         
 The morning after Tony was shot,

1202
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:08,731
I asked them right away,

1203
01:00:08,773 --> 01:00:11,484
"Did Tony's vest fail?"

1204
01:00:11,525 --> 01:00:13,611
And they told me no.

1205
01:00:13,653 --> 01:00:17,865
I was really just having      
             a hard time

1206
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:19,116
believing it.

1207
01:00:22,328 --> 01:00:24,330
November of 2002,

1208
01:00:24,372 --> 01:00:29,001
a sales representative had been 
   at Oceanside Police Department,

1209
01:00:29,043 --> 01:00:32,213
um, showing the Second Chance

1210
01:00:32,254 --> 01:00:34,215
Zylon vest.

1211
01:00:34,256 --> 01:00:37,760
Tony liked to have the best    
     of everything, equipment-wise.

1212
01:00:38,761 --> 01:00:40,888
Especially having         
           a baby on the way,

1213
01:00:40,930 --> 01:00:43,724
he wanted to be the most     
      protected that he could be.

1214
01:00:47,103 --> 01:00:49,230
The news was on.

1215
01:00:49,271 --> 01:00:53,609
I saw a shot of the officer

1216
01:00:53,651 --> 01:00:57,571
on the gurney.

1217
01:00:57,613 --> 01:00:59,949
He didn't have a shirt on,     
       and I saw his shoulder.

1218
01:01:02,118 --> 01:01:04,912
And I just knew.          
        I knew that was him.

1219
01:01:06,622 --> 01:01:08,833
And now Jakob does have

1220
01:01:08,874 --> 01:01:11,794
the same arm            
      and shoulder as his dad.

1221
01:01:11,836 --> 01:01:13,796
solemn music

1222
01:01:21,762 --> 01:01:23,180
[Richard]             
      They kept saying there was,

1223
01:01:23,222 --> 01:01:24,682
there was a hole         
           in the Zylon vest.

1224
01:01:24,724 --> 01:01:26,100
They would not let us       
         see the Zylon vest.

1225
01:01:26,142 --> 01:01:28,102
We never got to see        
        the damn Zylon vest.

1226
01:01:28,144 --> 01:01:29,937
They had a big production     
            after years,

1227
01:01:29,979 --> 01:01:31,397
finally get to see the vest.

1228
01:01:31,439 --> 01:01:32,898
They go into this room.

1229
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:34,775
There's pictures of the vest    
            laying there.

1230
01:01:35,776 --> 01:01:37,111
And we weren't even        
            allowed to take

1231
01:01:37,153 --> 01:01:38,904
pictures of the pictures.

1232
01:01:38,946 --> 01:01:41,115
And I went,            
 "What the hell's going on here?"

1233
01:01:41,157 --> 01:01:43,951
He got shot on           
    his Second Chance Zylon vest,

1234
01:01:43,993 --> 01:01:45,453
and the bullet stopped.

1235
01:01:45,494 --> 01:01:47,621
The bullet stopped.

1236
01:01:47,663 --> 01:01:51,208
A second shot hit him       
    up on the edge of the cover,

1237
01:01:51,250 --> 01:01:53,627
just barely nicked         
           the-the Zylon.

1238
01:01:53,669 --> 01:01:56,464
Nicked the Zylon          
      and down into his chest.

1239
01:01:56,505 --> 01:01:58,299
And it's back to the old dilemma

1240
01:01:58,340 --> 01:02:01,135
that has been facing armor     
   makers since ancient Babylonia.

1241
01:02:01,177 --> 01:02:02,636
How big do you make the vests?

1242
01:02:02,678 --> 01:02:03,846
Why don't you to come up here,   
              you know?

1243
01:02:03,888 --> 01:02:05,514
Well, what if you get shot here?

1244
01:02:05,556 --> 01:02:07,266
Well, come up to here.       
    "Oh, I can't see," you know.

1245
01:02:07,308 --> 01:02:09,518
[stammers] There's always     
    gonna be an edge of the vest.

1246
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,520
It doesn't go off into       
   infinity of space or anything.

1247
01:02:11,562 --> 01:02:13,314
There's gonna be an edge.

1248
01:02:14,023 --> 01:02:19,361
[Jamie]   I actually got to see   
          the vest in person,

1249
01:02:19,403 --> 01:02:23,032
and I could see the holes     
   that went through and through.

1250
01:02:23,073 --> 01:02:25,826
Tony was shot 13 times,

1251
01:02:25,868 --> 01:02:28,454
but he wouldn't have survived   
        even the first shot.

1252
01:02:31,499 --> 01:02:34,418
They, uh, you know,

1253
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:36,003
just looking for money,      
         that's all it was.

1254
01:02:36,045 --> 01:02:38,839
There was no pen--         
 was no perforation of that vest.

1255
01:02:38,881 --> 01:02:40,800
[Ramin]   Just before        
         we finished the film,

1256
01:02:40,841 --> 01:02:44,428
we were finally granted access 
         to the autopsy report.

1257
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:47,681
The bullet had gone        
          through and through.

1258
01:02:49,892 --> 01:02:51,936
It's a really sad, sad thing.

1259
01:02:51,977 --> 01:02:56,857
We're very saddened for him,    
         uh, for his family.

1260
01:02:56,899 --> 01:02:58,442
Um...

1261
01:03:00,653 --> 01:03:01,904
Yeah.

1262
01:03:02,905 --> 01:03:05,324
In life, things happen, right?

1263
01:03:05,366 --> 01:03:07,743
Things you don't intend      
            to have happen,

1264
01:03:07,785 --> 01:03:08,994
that have bad repercussions,

1265
01:03:09,036 --> 01:03:11,163
and the same is true        
            in business.

1266
01:03:12,164 --> 01:03:14,917
I believe that God gave man

1267
01:03:14,959 --> 01:03:18,921
the greatest gift possible,    
       and that is free will.

1268
01:03:19,964 --> 01:03:23,008
And when we have free will,

1269
01:03:23,050 --> 01:03:25,386
bad things will happen.

1270
01:03:25,427 --> 01:03:27,388
sullen music

1271
01:03:32,351 --> 01:03:34,603
[Steve Kohn]   If you remember,   
      there was this infamous case

1272
01:03:34,645 --> 01:03:37,189
where Ford was          
         selling the Pinto car.

1273
01:03:37,231 --> 01:03:40,901
They knew the gas tank      
      was in a hazardous position.

1274
01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:44,530
They didn't move the gas tank,   
          many people died.

1275
01:03:44,572 --> 01:03:46,448
I'm looking at the same thing   
          in Second Chance.

1276
01:03:49,034 --> 01:03:51,245
When Aaron came to us,

1277
01:03:51,287 --> 01:03:52,830
I had already been        
      representing whistleblowers

1278
01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:54,748
for a long time.

1279
01:03:54,790 --> 01:03:58,252
And he told me what happened,   
   and it took me about 11 minutes

1280
01:03:58,294 --> 01:04:01,589
to realize             
     he had a very strong case.

1281
01:04:02,214 --> 01:04:06,844
If one cop is shot        
       by one person, that's bad.

1282
01:04:06,886 --> 01:04:10,764
But if a company sells       
            100,000 vests

1283
01:04:10,806 --> 01:04:15,686
that don't work          
   to 100,000 innocent policemen,

1284
01:04:15,728 --> 01:04:18,898
you can figure out         
          which was worse.

1285
01:04:21,984 --> 01:04:24,445
[Ramin]   It wasn't long       
 before another officer was shot

1286
01:04:24,486 --> 01:04:26,071
and permanently injured,

1287
01:04:26,113 --> 01:04:29,116
and there were still       
          100,000 Zylon vests

1288
01:04:29,158 --> 01:04:32,620
on the bodies of police      
      and U.S. military overseas,

1289
01:04:32,661 --> 01:04:34,747
and many were rapidly degrading.

1290
01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:39,793
The government asked       
     Aaron Westrick to wear a wire

1291
01:04:39,835 --> 01:04:43,589
against the man          
     whose vest had saved his life.

1292
01:04:43,631 --> 01:04:46,383
They hoped he might        
        convince Richard to flip

1293
01:04:46,425 --> 01:04:49,053
and testify against the board.

1294
01:04:49,094 --> 01:04:50,638
[Aaron]              
             My heart, uh,

1295
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:52,640
sank, but he goes,         
         "Would you do it?"

1296
01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:53,807
I said, "Yes."

1297
01:04:56,435 --> 01:04:58,812
I would meet with an agent    
              at a hotel,

1298
01:04:58,854 --> 01:05:00,981
just on the outskirts       
           of Traverse City,

1299
01:05:01,023 --> 01:05:03,859
where he would put        
            the wire on me.

1300
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:07,321
But I didn't like the idea of

1301
01:05:07,363 --> 01:05:08,656
meeting in a place         
           outside of work

1302
01:05:08,697 --> 01:05:10,407
an hour and a half or so      
             beforehand

1303
01:05:10,449 --> 01:05:12,159
so you could get wired up

1304
01:05:12,201 --> 01:05:15,287
and the listening van       
        could get into position,

1305
01:05:15,329 --> 01:05:17,081
like, across the street      
          from Second Chance.

1306
01:05:19,917 --> 01:05:21,377
You look in the mirror      
              and you say,

1307
01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:23,045
"Am I doing the right thing?"

1308
01:05:23,087 --> 01:05:25,005
This is really hard.

1309
01:05:25,047 --> 01:05:26,757
I'm wearing a wire to work.

1310
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:28,509
I told Aaron once before

1311
01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:30,177
there's certain parts       
        of his body, I think,

1312
01:05:30,219 --> 01:05:33,806
that are bigger than        
   his brains sometimes. [laughs]

1313
01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:35,349
[sighs]

1314
01:05:35,391 --> 01:05:39,228
I think that            
      he really wanted Richard

1315
01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:43,065
to do the right thing       
    and even say the right thing,

1316
01:05:43,107 --> 01:05:44,858
when he had the wire.

1317
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:46,485
You know, it's-- this is real,

1318
01:05:46,527 --> 01:05:48,070
this is real torture        
      for me to listen to this.

1319
01:05:48,112 --> 01:05:49,446
[Aaron on video]          
       And you wrote a memo, too.

1320
01:05:49,488 --> 01:05:50,864
Yeah.

1321
01:05:50,906 --> 01:05:52,282
Richard just went         
            in the building.

1322
01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:54,868
I'm gonna get him.

1323
01:05:54,910 --> 01:05:56,870
[beep]

1324
01:05:56,912 --> 01:05:58,372
What-what a backstabbing shit.

1325
01:05:58,414 --> 01:05:59,873
[Aaron]              
                Richard.

1326
01:05:59,915 --> 01:06:01,375
Come on, come on, bud.

1327
01:06:01,417 --> 01:06:02,876
Come on over.           
        I want to yak with you.

1328
01:06:02,918 --> 01:06:04,878
[Richard]   There you are.      
            Okay, what's up?

1329
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,714
[Aaron]   I want to make it real   
      clear how I feel about this.

1330
01:06:06,755 --> 01:06:08,215
[Richard]   God, Aaron,       
       if I'm clear on one thing,

1331
01:06:08,257 --> 01:06:10,050
I'm clear how you feel      
              about this.

1332
01:06:10,092 --> 01:06:11,051
[Aaron]   You're in deep shit.    
       I'm telling you right now.

1333
01:06:11,093 --> 01:06:12,302
I kept careful notes.

1334
01:06:12,344 --> 01:06:13,762
[Richard]             
        I-I know you did, Aaron.

1335
01:06:13,804 --> 01:06:14,847
[Aaron]              
      You're in serious trouble--

1336
01:06:14,888 --> 01:06:16,348
[Richard]             
            Aaron, no shit!

1337
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:17,933
[Aaron]              
     If you come-- but come around

1338
01:06:17,975 --> 01:06:19,601
and-and point the finger     
           where it belongs.

1339
01:06:19,643 --> 01:06:21,478
[Richard]   What the hell      
           you want me to do?

1340
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,396
I mean, I may lose everything   
         I own because of this.

1341
01:06:22,438 --> 01:06:23,897
Everything I own.

1342
01:06:23,939 --> 01:06:25,774
Everything I own         
         I put into this thing.

1343
01:06:25,816 --> 01:06:27,568
What am I supposed to do,     
 set myself on fire or something?

1344
01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:28,527
-[Aaron]   I don't want you to--   
         -[Richard]   I mean,

1345
01:06:28,569 --> 01:06:29,611
what-what can I do?

1346
01:06:29,653 --> 01:06:30,696
We should've acted faster.

1347
01:06:30,738 --> 01:06:31,780
That-That's absolute fact.

1348
01:06:31,822 --> 01:06:32,740
Put a billboard out there.

1349
01:06:32,781 --> 01:06:33,782
Should've acted faster.

1350
01:06:33,824 --> 01:06:35,534
I'm sorry we didn't act faster.

1351
01:06:35,576 --> 01:06:37,369
The abso-absolute truth is    
          we got overwhelmed.

1352
01:06:37,411 --> 01:06:39,580
It's like when I told--      
      was told my dad had cancer.

1353
01:06:39,621 --> 01:06:40,789
I-I didn't want          
        to believe it at first.

1354
01:06:40,831 --> 01:06:42,458
It was too enormous.

1355
01:06:42,499 --> 01:06:44,460
It's terminal cancer.

1356
01:06:44,501 --> 01:06:46,295
We're told, we're told that    
     our vest had terminal cancer.

1357
01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:48,297
So we kept looking around.

1358
01:06:48,338 --> 01:06:50,090
Is there some way, some way    
     we can get out of this thing?

1359
01:06:50,132 --> 01:06:51,467
[Aaron]   But what about the vests 
        that were already made?

1360
01:06:51,508 --> 01:06:53,218
[Richard]             
         That's the past, okay?

1361
01:06:53,260 --> 01:06:55,345
Right now, today, what's     
       the best course of action?

1362
01:06:55,387 --> 01:06:58,557
I'm trying to do right now    
     is to save 250 jobs. You know?

1363
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:00,434
I got all these people      
     who are gonna be out of work.

1364
01:07:00,476 --> 01:07:02,186
What are you gonna do?

1365
01:07:02,227 --> 01:07:03,604
How we gonna save         
       Second Chance Body Armor?

1366
01:07:03,645 --> 01:07:04,772
[Aaron]              
       I know what you're saying,

1367
01:07:04,813 --> 01:07:06,231
but the truth of the matter is

1368
01:07:06,273 --> 01:07:07,941
our Second Chance vests      
              have failed.

1369
01:07:07,983 --> 01:07:09,234
[Richard]             
        I know this, okay? Okay?

1370
01:07:09,276 --> 01:07:10,736
You all set with that now?

1371
01:07:10,778 --> 01:07:11,737
We got that,           
         got that established?

1372
01:07:11,779 --> 01:07:13,697
I'm pissed off, okay?

1373
01:07:13,739 --> 01:07:15,407
Everything he's saying there,   
       he's trying to set me up.

1374
01:07:15,449 --> 01:07:16,784
It's-it's like playing a game   
             of Simon Says,

1375
01:07:16,825 --> 01:07:18,410
only you don't know        
           you're playing.

1376
01:07:18,452 --> 01:07:21,330
If I would've had one little    
      moment of moral weakness

1377
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:22,998
and said, "Yeah, well,       
   let's see what you want to do.

1378
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,917
Let's do that.           
        Let's do that then."

1379
01:07:24,958 --> 01:07:26,877
And I'd be going to prison.

1380
01:07:26,919 --> 01:07:28,420
Prison.

1381
01:07:28,462 --> 01:07:30,464
The guy who saved         
   hundreds of American policemen

1382
01:07:30,506 --> 01:07:33,383
goes into a prison,        
     what's gonna happen to him?

1383
01:07:33,425 --> 01:07:35,803
How many hours           
       do you think I'd last?

1384
01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:37,429
I think-- And he knew that.

1385
01:07:37,471 --> 01:07:38,931
[Aaron]   What do you want me    
            to do, Richard?

1386
01:07:38,972 --> 01:07:40,808
Do you want me to lie       
            in front of you?

1387
01:07:40,849 --> 01:07:42,601
[Richard]   No, I don't want you   
         to lie in front of me.

1388
01:07:42,643 --> 01:07:44,478
Don't lie about anything.     
         Don't lie, don't lie.

1389
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,896
All-all I can ask you is to--   
         once a long time ago,

1390
01:07:45,938 --> 01:07:47,397
Second Chance saved your life.

1391
01:07:47,439 --> 01:07:49,316
Now you got to save        
             Second Chance.

1392
01:07:52,236 --> 01:07:54,196
somber music

1393
01:08:04,498 --> 01:08:06,917
[Ramin] Do you think        
      Richard was motivated by

1394
01:08:06,959 --> 01:08:08,418
money in his life?

1395
01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:10,796
No, he was motivated by passion.

1396
01:08:10,838 --> 01:08:15,134
The vests were          
         his reason for being.

1397
01:08:15,175 --> 01:08:18,178
And, um, and it failed.

1398
01:08:28,105 --> 01:08:30,232
[Kim]   I didn't know        
        it was gonna be as hard

1399
01:08:30,274 --> 01:08:31,692
as what it was.

1400
01:08:32,276 --> 01:08:36,321
You know, we saw people      
         steal our garbage.

1401
01:08:36,363 --> 01:08:39,533
I guess that's how         
 they try to find dirt on people.

1402
01:08:39,575 --> 01:08:42,244
I mean, who else          
      would steal our garbage?

1403
01:08:42,286 --> 01:08:44,121
I always told the kids,      
        you know, you come home,

1404
01:08:44,163 --> 01:08:46,165
you see a strange car       
           parked on the road

1405
01:08:46,206 --> 01:08:47,332
that you don't recognize,

1406
01:08:47,374 --> 01:08:48,709
don't go home.

1407
01:08:48,750 --> 01:08:52,045
Go to the neighbors and call me.

1408
01:08:52,671 --> 01:08:56,508
I didn't feel like        
       I could maybe talk to him

1409
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:59,761
about things that I needed to, 
              because I...

1410
01:08:59,803 --> 01:09:01,471
A, I didn't think         
          I would be heard,

1411
01:09:01,513 --> 01:09:04,266
and B, he was already       
          stressed enough.

1412
01:09:04,308 --> 01:09:08,145
But I don't blame Aaron      
        for taking down Richard.

1413
01:09:08,187 --> 01:09:11,690
Richard did that to himself    
     by not doing the right thing.

1414
01:09:11,732 --> 01:09:15,485
It is ironic that, you know,    
     he saved Aaron on one end,

1415
01:09:15,527 --> 01:09:19,865
and in the end, I suppose     
   Richard couldn't save himself.

1416
01:10:01,698 --> 01:10:03,742
[Ramin] So how do you manage    
          your health care

1417
01:10:03,784 --> 01:10:06,328
from 2004 until now?

1418
01:10:29,351 --> 01:10:31,645
[Ramin]   When you think back    
        to shooting that Magnum

1419
01:10:31,687 --> 01:10:34,231
and you had so much power,

1420
01:10:34,273 --> 01:10:35,816
and now you could have       
          anything you want

1421
01:10:35,857 --> 01:10:37,484
that would make you feel      
           that way again,

1422
01:10:37,526 --> 01:10:39,236
-what would it be?         
           -[sobs softly]

1423
01:10:40,529 --> 01:10:42,698
[sobs, sniffles]

1424
01:10:49,705 --> 01:10:51,832
[Ramin]              
   What would you do differently?

1425
01:10:54,876 --> 01:10:57,587
[sighs, sniffles]

1426
01:11:05,721 --> 01:11:07,681
somber music

1427
01:11:17,524 --> 01:11:19,484
Second Chance Body Armor

1428
01:11:19,526 --> 01:11:21,695
may have known           
      its product was defective

1429
01:11:21,737 --> 01:11:23,405
before the shootings.

1430
01:11:23,447 --> 01:11:25,032
A company in Michigan       
           knowingly sold

1431
01:11:25,073 --> 01:11:27,159
defective bulletproof vests

1432
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,494
to federal officials        
     and even to President Bush.

1433
01:11:29,536 --> 01:11:32,414
[cheering, applause]

1434
01:11:33,415 --> 01:11:35,000
[Ramin]              
         Besieged by lawsuits,

1435
01:11:35,042 --> 01:11:37,627
Second Chance           
       and the Zylon manufacturer

1436
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:39,338
agreed to pay           
        over $2 million dollars

1437
01:11:39,379 --> 01:11:42,382
to the family           
     of the officer who was slain.

1438
01:11:42,424 --> 01:11:45,218
Both companies denied       
            all culpability.

1439
01:11:46,511 --> 01:11:48,555
And in their lawsuit       
          with Aaron Westrick

1440
01:11:48,597 --> 01:11:50,390
and the United States       
              government,

1441
01:11:50,432 --> 01:11:53,060
they paid over          
          $65 million dollars.

1442
01:11:53,101 --> 01:11:55,562
A small fraction went to Aaron.

1443
01:11:55,604 --> 01:11:58,148
Second Chance           
          declared bankruptcy.

1444
01:11:58,190 --> 01:12:00,359
The executives did no jail time,

1445
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,695
and many wound up in mansions   
          by the Great Lakes.

1446
01:12:03,737 --> 01:12:06,865
But legal fees          
          broke Richard apart.

1447
01:12:06,907 --> 01:12:10,327
His marriage to Kathleen     
           ended in divorce,

1448
01:12:10,369 --> 01:12:13,163
he lost the company        
     he had spent decades building,

1449
01:12:13,205 --> 01:12:15,957
and he had a heart attack.

1450
01:12:15,999 --> 01:12:18,418
I bankrupted my damn company,   
          for God's sakes.

1451
01:12:18,460 --> 01:12:20,087
I bankrupted the company      
          solving a problem

1452
01:12:20,128 --> 01:12:21,671
that I didn't cause.

1453
01:12:21,713 --> 01:12:23,757
And I get rattled--        
     hassled here in the street

1454
01:12:23,799 --> 01:12:25,258
like I'm some kind of criminal.

1455
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:27,803
I went-- I'm bankrupt, okay?    
           I got nothing.

1456
01:12:27,844 --> 01:12:30,347
That was definitely, uh,      
          not a high point.

1457
01:12:30,389 --> 01:12:32,140
Um...

1458
01:12:32,182 --> 01:12:33,683
Yeah, definitely not        
            a high point.

1459
01:12:33,725 --> 01:12:36,353
But I-I just--           
    I didn't take it lying down.

1460
01:12:36,395 --> 01:12:37,604
I started up           
        a new body armor company

1461
01:12:37,646 --> 01:12:39,106
called Armor Express,

1462
01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:40,899
and it's trying to take in     
            all the glory

1463
01:12:40,941 --> 01:12:43,276
that Second Chance was       
      and all the good service

1464
01:12:43,318 --> 01:12:45,237
and all the good reputation    
           we'd built up.

1465
01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:47,072
I wanted to transfer that     
       over to Armor Express.

1466
01:12:47,114 --> 01:12:48,490
That's not an easy thing to do.

1467
01:12:49,491 --> 01:12:51,201
We had to carry on tradition.

1468
01:12:51,243 --> 01:12:53,453
I was gonna shoot Matt.

1469
01:12:55,288 --> 01:12:56,706
And I just couldn't do it.

1470
01:12:56,748 --> 01:12:58,208
I can't do it.

1471
01:12:58,250 --> 01:13:00,544
I don't have to do this      
             to my own son.

1472
01:13:00,585 --> 01:13:04,589
But then Matt picks up the gun, 
        says, "I'll go, Dad."

1473
01:13:04,631 --> 01:13:06,091
Oh, geez.

1474
01:13:06,133 --> 01:13:07,968
That's just, uh...         
       I was so proud of him.

1475
01:13:08,009 --> 01:13:09,302
I was so scared.

1476
01:13:09,344 --> 01:13:11,513
-Go ahead, go ahead.        
             -Two, one.

1477
01:13:13,306 --> 01:13:14,975
Oh, Jesus.

1478
01:13:15,016 --> 01:13:17,561
[sobbing]

1479
01:13:17,602 --> 01:13:19,646
[Ramin]   The tragedies       
        that ended Second Chance

1480
01:13:19,688 --> 01:13:21,565
were forgotten.

1481
01:13:21,606 --> 01:13:24,151
With his father's support,    
      Matt started Armor Express.

1482
01:13:26,111 --> 01:13:28,572
And in a decade,         
 it had become one of the biggest

1483
01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:31,408
body armor companies       
             in the world.

1484
01:13:31,450 --> 01:13:33,410
dramatic orchestral music

1485
01:13:36,913 --> 01:13:40,333
And Matt began producing     
             his own films.

1486
01:14:01,021 --> 01:14:03,356
[Matt]               
          My father's legacy,

1487
01:14:03,398 --> 01:14:05,442
it's a legacy about        
         entrepreneurship...

1488
01:14:06,985 --> 01:14:09,362
...controversy, storytelling.

1489
01:14:09,404 --> 01:14:11,323
It's a legacy about

1490
01:14:11,364 --> 01:14:14,159
the phoenix            
       rising from the ashes.

1491
01:14:14,201 --> 01:14:16,912
dramatic music

1492
01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:51,238
[Ramin]              
     When you think back to it now,

1493
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:54,950
do you feel like         
          your role was fated?

1494
01:14:56,076 --> 01:14:58,411
Has it all been determined?

1495
01:15:00,288 --> 01:15:02,415
[Aaron]              
        My middle name is Jude,

1496
01:15:02,457 --> 01:15:04,668
and that's the saint       
           for the hopeless,

1497
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:06,878
the helpless causes.

1498
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,005
And the kind of family I had,

1499
01:15:09,047 --> 01:15:10,715
I was pointed towards       
            the priesthood.

1500
01:15:10,757 --> 01:15:12,968
[Ramin]              
   Why didn't you become a priest?

1501
01:15:13,009 --> 01:15:17,013
[laughs] Well, I just decided   
       not to become a priest,

1502
01:15:17,055 --> 01:15:18,473
when it's all said and done,

1503
01:15:18,515 --> 01:15:22,936
because I do believe        
        that some persons...

1504
01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:27,148
...need to be shown the way.

1505
01:15:27,190 --> 01:15:29,276
Or guided, if you get my point.

1506
01:15:29,317 --> 01:15:33,446
I'm not a heavy-handed person,   
   but there comes a time when...

1507
01:15:34,155 --> 01:15:37,450
...there comes a time when you, 
   uh, you got to stop some people

1508
01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:39,619
from hurting other people.

1509
01:15:39,661 --> 01:15:41,955
[indistinct chatter]

1510
01:15:41,997 --> 01:15:45,375
I believed in his cause      
              at the time.

1511
01:15:45,417 --> 01:15:47,919
My faith is a little shaken.

1512
01:15:47,961 --> 01:15:50,463
But I still see good        
          in Richard Davis.

1513
01:15:52,382 --> 01:15:55,468
Sometimes I miss Richard,     
 and I-I think I've said before,

1514
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:57,637
in my heart,            
        we're still friends.

1515
01:16:00,682 --> 01:16:02,267
Yeah.

1516
01:16:02,309 --> 01:16:03,643
[interviewer]           
      Will you tell us your name?

1517
01:16:03,685 --> 01:16:05,562
-[Aaron]   Uh, Aaron Westrick.    
              -[groans]

1518
01:16:05,604 --> 01:16:07,647
-Why you torment me like this?   
      -[interviewer]   On the day

1519
01:16:07,689 --> 01:16:09,274
in question,           
      were you wearing body armor?

1520
01:16:09,316 --> 01:16:10,984
-Yes, I was.           
              -What type?

1521
01:16:11,026 --> 01:16:12,652
Wearing a Second Chance.

1522
01:16:12,694 --> 01:16:14,821
Uh, believe it would be      
         a T-shirt model vest.

1523
01:16:14,863 --> 01:16:17,115
[interviewer]   How did you come   
      into possession of the vest?

1524
01:16:17,157 --> 01:16:19,117
somber music

1525
01:16:22,787 --> 01:16:24,539
[Ramin] And, Richard,       
      what happened to the man

1526
01:16:24,581 --> 01:16:26,166
who shot Aaron?

1527
01:16:26,207 --> 01:16:28,627
[Richard]             
      I heard he was killed later.

1528
01:16:28,668 --> 01:16:31,755
He was, uh, guarding       
        a drug pad of some kind,

1529
01:16:31,796 --> 01:16:33,840
and police made a raid and he   
 resisted and somebody shot him.

1530
01:16:53,652 --> 01:16:56,196
[Aaron on video]          
        Don't move! Don't move.

1531
01:16:58,031 --> 01:16:59,658
You breathe wrong,         
           I'll kill you.

1532
01:16:59,699 --> 01:17:01,451
You breathe            
        wrong, I'll kill you!

1533
01:17:01,493 --> 01:17:02,702
[assailant]            
           Okay, you got me.

1534
01:17:02,744 --> 01:17:04,454
That's bullshit.

1535
01:17:04,496 --> 01:17:06,498
He didn't say nothing cocky.

1536
01:17:06,539 --> 01:17:08,875
He watching too much        
            Starsky & Hutch.

1537
01:17:08,917 --> 01:17:10,543
But, no, he didn't         
        act like that at all.

1538
01:17:10,585 --> 01:17:12,671
He said,              
      "Lord, don't let me die."

1539
01:17:12,712 --> 01:17:14,130
I remember that.

1540
01:17:15,507 --> 01:17:17,384
[chuckles] He did.

1541
01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:20,345
I'm Clifford Washington.

1542
01:17:21,346 --> 01:17:23,556
I'm an assistant professor.

1543
01:17:23,598 --> 01:17:25,809
I am a-a minister.

1544
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:30,689
Uh, I love fishing and hunting, 
         riding motorcycles,

1545
01:17:30,730 --> 01:17:33,525
and I am the man          
      that shot Aaron Westrick.

1546
01:17:34,734 --> 01:17:37,404
In life, I learned that...

1547
01:17:40,323 --> 01:17:43,118
...we make mistakes sometime,

1548
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:46,913
but very seldom          
     do we get an opportunity...

1549
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,960
...to right those wrongs,

1550
01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:55,171
and I'd like to think       
     that's what I'm doing now.

1551
01:17:55,213 --> 01:17:56,339
Really.

1552
01:17:56,381 --> 01:17:57,632
Um...

1553
01:17:57,674 --> 01:17:59,050
I knew better.

1554
01:17:59,092 --> 01:18:01,219
I knew not to point a gun     
             at someone

1555
01:18:01,261 --> 01:18:03,263
because, uh, from the time     
            I could walk,

1556
01:18:03,304 --> 01:18:05,306
I was hunting with a BB gun,

1557
01:18:05,348 --> 01:18:07,434
a .22 shotgun.

1558
01:18:07,475 --> 01:18:10,145
And you know what?

1559
01:18:10,186 --> 01:18:11,730
I had excellent grades.

1560
01:18:11,771 --> 01:18:13,106
I don't say this often,

1561
01:18:13,148 --> 01:18:15,233
but during             
      my undergraduate degree,

1562
01:18:15,275 --> 01:18:16,735
every exam I took,

1563
01:18:16,776 --> 01:18:19,612
I was stoned,           
         blown out my gourd.

1564
01:18:19,654 --> 01:18:21,531
I got A's in everything.

1565
01:18:24,242 --> 01:18:27,912
I was, uh, involved in       
      a breaking and entering,

1566
01:18:27,954 --> 01:18:30,457
and, um, someone heard us,

1567
01:18:30,498 --> 01:18:32,333
and they called          
         the law enforcement

1568
01:18:32,375 --> 01:18:34,294
like they were supposed to do.

1569
01:18:34,335 --> 01:18:38,465
And Aaron, uh, was the first one 
     that arrived on the scene.

1570
01:18:39,632 --> 01:18:43,261
And, um, I didn't want       
           to go to jail.

1571
01:18:43,303 --> 01:18:46,931
And, uh, he asked me to stop,   
           and I shot him.

1572
01:18:46,973 --> 01:18:49,184
At the same time,         
         he was shooting me.

1573
01:18:49,225 --> 01:18:52,187
The first shot went in here    
         and came out there.

1574
01:18:52,228 --> 01:18:54,063
So they had to cut it       
            right there.

1575
01:18:54,105 --> 01:18:56,191
And then this one

1576
01:18:56,232 --> 01:19:00,653
went in here            
     and it came out back here.

1577
01:19:00,695 --> 01:19:02,572
[Ramin]              
        And what did you feel

1578
01:19:02,614 --> 01:19:04,324
in the moment           
       of pulling the trigger?

1579
01:19:04,365 --> 01:19:06,826
Horrible. Just horrible, man.

1580
01:19:06,868 --> 01:19:09,662
Yeah. I-I knew-- you know what?

1581
01:19:09,704 --> 01:19:12,165
If I had the balls,        
    I would've put it in my mouth

1582
01:19:12,207 --> 01:19:14,167
and pulled the trigger.

1583
01:19:14,209 --> 01:19:16,753
I-I just-- That was--       
        That's horrible, man.

1584
01:19:16,795 --> 01:19:19,464
Nothing... horrible feeling.

1585
01:19:19,506 --> 01:19:21,299
Horrible, horrible, horrible.

1586
01:19:21,341 --> 01:19:23,176
I'm-I'm just so...

1587
01:19:26,513 --> 01:19:29,098
...torn,

1588
01:19:29,140 --> 01:19:33,937
[voice breaking]          
 even now, all these years later.

1589
01:19:33,978 --> 01:19:36,648
It's horrible, man.

1590
01:19:36,689 --> 01:19:38,858
I just can't believe I did that.

1591
01:19:42,529 --> 01:19:44,614
Cannot believe I did that.

1592
01:19:46,574 --> 01:19:47,659
[sniffles]

1593
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:49,035
And I'm just...

1594
01:19:55,166 --> 01:19:57,335
And then my dad,         
         he came up that night,

1595
01:19:57,377 --> 01:20:00,505
[sniffling]            
       'cause he was a pastor,

1596
01:20:00,547 --> 01:20:03,716
and, uh,              
      I remember him saying...

1597
01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:08,388
"You got a new lease on life."

1598
01:20:09,013 --> 01:20:12,517
Do you think you will ever     
    be able to forgive yourself?

1599
01:20:14,727 --> 01:20:16,187
[sniffles]

1600
01:20:18,565 --> 01:20:20,441
That's a tough question.

1601
01:20:29,117 --> 01:20:31,744
We are going to the location    
         where 40 years ago,

1602
01:20:31,786 --> 01:20:35,081
Clifford Washington and I     
          shot one another.

1603
01:20:35,123 --> 01:20:37,083
soft music

1604
01:20:43,298 --> 01:20:45,383
[Ramin]   Clifford and Aaron     
            had not had time

1605
01:20:45,425 --> 01:20:47,719
to reflect that          
      since shooting one another,

1606
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,721
they had both become       
           college professors

1607
01:20:49,762 --> 01:20:51,598
in Northern Michigan,

1608
01:20:51,639 --> 01:20:54,893
or that Clifford, while serving   
          15 years in prison,

1609
01:20:54,934 --> 01:20:58,771
had fulfilled Aaron's childhood   
      dream of becoming a pastor.

1610
01:20:59,981 --> 01:21:01,941
melancholy music

1611
01:21:09,908 --> 01:21:11,951
[birds chirping]

1612
01:21:21,377 --> 01:21:22,962
-How you doing, man?        
          -[Aaron chuckles]

1613
01:21:23,004 --> 01:21:25,757
How are you doing?

1614
01:21:25,798 --> 01:21:28,009
-[laughing]            
            -Wow. Aaron.

1615
01:21:32,013 --> 01:21:34,974
[Clifford sobbing]         
            I'm so sorry!

1616
01:21:36,684 --> 01:21:38,645
So sorry.

1617
01:21:38,686 --> 01:21:40,480
[sniffling]

1618
01:21:41,356 --> 01:21:43,983
I'm sorry. [sniffling]

1619
01:21:44,025 --> 01:21:45,818
It's all right.

1620
01:21:47,779 --> 01:21:48,905
Starting anew.

1621
01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:50,657
This is all new. It's okay.

1622
01:21:50,698 --> 01:21:52,742
[sniffling]

1623
01:21:57,455 --> 01:21:58,706
Thank you.

1624
01:22:03,878 --> 01:22:06,714
I had a-a screw          
         replaced in my leg

1625
01:22:06,756 --> 01:22:08,508
-about three weeks ago.      
               -Yeah.

1626
01:22:08,549 --> 01:22:10,093
I remember in court        
          you had a walker.

1627
01:22:10,134 --> 01:22:12,345
-Yeah.               
         -Yeah, I did that.

1628
01:22:13,513 --> 01:22:15,848
I remember the day I was      
     gonna fall. Remember that?

1629
01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:17,475
Down them back steps?

1630
01:22:17,517 --> 01:22:20,395
In 1982, we were going to court.

1631
01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:22,313
I had a walker,

1632
01:22:22,355 --> 01:22:24,273
and I was slipping and falling.

1633
01:22:24,315 --> 01:22:25,566
I was gonna fall down.

1634
01:22:25,608 --> 01:22:27,110
I looked.

1635
01:22:27,151 --> 01:22:30,113
Bunch of steel and cement steps.

1636
01:22:30,154 --> 01:22:32,907
Somebody grabbed me,        
           just like this.

1637
01:22:35,034 --> 01:22:36,536
It was Aaron.

1638
01:22:38,037 --> 01:22:39,872
He stopped me from falling.

1639
01:22:39,914 --> 01:22:41,708
Kept me from falling.

1640
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:45,044
[chuckles] I remember that.

1641
01:22:48,881 --> 01:22:50,842
And I-I would never forget that.

1642
01:22:50,883 --> 01:22:53,594
I can forget everything,      
       I'll never forget that.

1643
01:22:56,347 --> 01:22:58,307
melancholy music

1644
01:23:05,606 --> 01:23:07,734
[Richard]   If a great white light 
          comes over the world

1645
01:23:07,775 --> 01:23:10,236
and nobody's shooting       
            anybody anymore,

1646
01:23:10,278 --> 01:23:12,030
we'd be out of business.

1647
01:23:12,989 --> 01:23:14,991
That-that ain't gonna happen.

1648
01:23:15,033 --> 01:23:17,869
You look at animals in the wild,

1649
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,747
the horses and the cows      
    and the deer and everything,

1650
01:23:20,788 --> 01:23:22,665
they got eyes out on the sides   
           of their heads

1651
01:23:22,707 --> 01:23:24,584
so they can look, look all,    
        look all around them

1652
01:23:24,625 --> 01:23:26,753
and see-see if any threats     
             are coming.

1653
01:23:26,794 --> 01:23:30,923
The eagles and the lions      
    and tigers and the predators,

1654
01:23:30,965 --> 01:23:32,633
they got eyes right here      
             like we do.

1655
01:23:32,675 --> 01:23:34,177
Like we do. We're predators.

1656
01:23:34,218 --> 01:23:36,179
We focus in on something.

1657
01:23:36,220 --> 01:23:38,056
We focus in on something      
          we're gonna kill.

1658
01:23:38,097 --> 01:23:39,974
And that's what man's been doing

1659
01:23:40,016 --> 01:23:43,061
for, uh, you know, thousands--   
   hundreds of thousands of years.

1660
01:23:43,102 --> 01:23:45,063
soft music

1661
01:23:50,276 --> 01:23:52,403
[Ramin]   In my final encounter   
             with Richard,

1662
01:23:52,445 --> 01:23:55,364
I brought him back        
 to the alleyway of his origins.

1663
01:23:56,783 --> 01:23:59,285
There is a truth         
         to Richard's reality,

1664
01:23:59,327 --> 01:24:01,954
as unpleasant as it sounds.

1665
01:24:01,996 --> 01:24:05,124
For every moment that man     
       prevents man from falling,

1666
01:24:05,166 --> 01:24:09,962
there seem to be countless more   
 examples of violence, brutality.

1667
01:24:11,464 --> 01:24:13,174
-You're wearing a vest now?    
               -Yeah.

1668
01:24:13,216 --> 01:24:14,759
Why?

1669
01:24:14,801 --> 01:24:16,469
I don't know. [laughs]

1670
01:24:16,511 --> 01:24:18,471
If I knew, I wouldn't       
        have to do anything.

1671
01:24:18,513 --> 01:24:21,265
Are you concerned         
      you may be shot at today?

1672
01:24:21,307 --> 01:24:23,267
Yeah, it ent--           
         it entered my mind,

1673
01:24:23,309 --> 01:24:26,229
since I've been shot        
    right here before, you know?

1674
01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:29,148
This is the place of death.    
         Kind of a scary place.

1675
01:24:29,190 --> 01:24:31,567
I made-made it          
        out of this place once,

1676
01:24:31,609 --> 01:24:33,611
and I want to do it again.

1677
01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:37,573
[Ramin]   If you could        
          go back in time now

1678
01:24:37,615 --> 01:24:39,575
and meet              
      the young Richard Davis,

1679
01:24:39,617 --> 01:24:41,285
-what would you tell him?     
             -[chuckles]

1680
01:24:41,327 --> 01:24:43,204
Carry a couple more guns      
         with you. [laughs]

1681
01:24:43,246 --> 01:24:44,330
Bigger gun, more ammo.

1682
01:24:51,712 --> 01:24:53,339
[Ramin]              
          Richard, what is it

1683
01:24:53,381 --> 01:24:56,926
you're the most afraid of     
            in this life?

1684
01:24:56,968 --> 01:24:59,137
Nothing. [laughs]

1685
01:24:59,178 --> 01:25:01,931
No. You know, really,       
        getting old, going--

1686
01:25:01,973 --> 01:25:04,350
growing old 'cause you-you can   
     break an arm and get shot,

1687
01:25:04,392 --> 01:25:05,977
and you can recover from that.

1688
01:25:06,018 --> 01:25:08,604
Getting old, every day,      
       it's coming, you know.

1689
01:25:08,646 --> 01:25:10,356
Father Time's coming after you.

1690
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:24,620
He belongs to           
      the Immortalist Society,

1691
01:25:24,662 --> 01:25:28,708
and, um, he's going to have    
          his head removed

1692
01:25:28,749 --> 01:25:30,918
and cryonically preserved.

1693
01:25:32,587 --> 01:25:36,632
And he said that I might want   
        to think about that.

1694
01:25:36,674 --> 01:25:38,801
And I remember it         
           because I said,

1695
01:25:38,843 --> 01:25:40,219
"It's January.

1696
01:25:40,261 --> 01:25:42,430
Can we talk about this       
           in the summer?"

1697
01:25:42,471 --> 01:25:43,723
[laughs]

1698
01:25:43,764 --> 01:25:45,725
somber music

1699
01:25:50,021 --> 01:25:52,732
[Ramin]   While sitting under    
       the painting of Iwo Jima,

1700
01:25:52,773 --> 01:25:54,775
Richard told me          
          that in the future,

1701
01:25:54,817 --> 01:25:59,155
when his frozen head was thawed   
     and attached to a robot torso,

1702
01:25:59,197 --> 01:26:03,701
that his one desire would be   
      to create better body armor.

1703
01:26:03,743 --> 01:26:05,578
[Richard]             
     Armor makers of the future are

1704
01:26:05,620 --> 01:26:07,580
gonna contend with weapons    
      that'll just keep punching.

1705
01:26:07,622 --> 01:26:11,042
Instead of just one big hit,   
     they just keep drilling away.

1706
01:26:11,083 --> 01:26:13,085
You got to have something     
      that'll intercept the energy

1707
01:26:13,127 --> 01:26:14,879
and turn around          
       and use it against itself.

1708
01:26:14,921 --> 01:26:17,048
Throw the energy beam       
       back into the energy beam

1709
01:26:17,089 --> 01:26:19,258
and tear apart the guys      
      who are shooting it at you.

1710
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:20,885
It serves 'em right.

1711
01:26:26,724 --> 01:26:30,436
[gun clicking slowly]

1712
01:26:40,154 --> 01:26:42,240
[clicking continues]

1713
01:27:00,675 --> 01:27:01,968
[gun clicks]

1714
01:27:07,598 --> 01:27:12,436
Well, won't somebody tell me

1715
01:27:12,478 --> 01:27:16,190
Answer if you can

1716
01:27:16,232 --> 01:27:19,694
Won't somebody tell me

1717
01:27:19,735 --> 01:27:23,322
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1718
01:27:23,364 --> 01:27:26,993
I'm going to ask        
             the question

1719
01:27:27,034 --> 01:27:30,830
Please answer if you can

1720
01:27:30,871 --> 01:27:34,333
If anybody surely        
             can tell me

1721
01:27:34,375 --> 01:27:37,128
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1722
01:27:37,169 --> 01:27:41,215
Well, won't somebody tell me

1723
01:27:41,257 --> 01:27:44,510
Answer if you can

1724
01:27:44,552 --> 01:27:48,264
I want somebody to tell me

1725
01:27:48,306 --> 01:27:52,059
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1726
01:27:52,101 --> 01:27:55,688
I traveled           
         different countries

1727
01:27:55,730 --> 01:27:59,483
I've traveled          
           in foreign lands

1728
01:27:59,525 --> 01:28:03,195
I've found nobody        
            could tell me

1729
01:28:03,237 --> 01:28:05,906
Just what about the soul    
               of a man

1730
01:28:05,948 --> 01:28:10,036
Well, won't somebody tell me

1731
01:28:10,077 --> 01:28:13,247
Answer if you can

1732
01:28:13,289 --> 01:28:17,001
I want somebody to tell me

1733
01:28:17,043 --> 01:28:21,422
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1734
01:28:21,464 --> 01:28:25,259
I saw a crowd stand talking

1735
01:28:25,301 --> 01:28:28,971
I just came up in time

1736
01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:32,391
Was teaching the lawyer,    
              the doctor

1737
01:28:32,433 --> 01:28:35,478
Well, a man ain't nothing    
             but his mind

1738
01:28:35,519 --> 01:28:39,607
Well, won't somebody tell me

1739
01:28:39,648 --> 01:28:42,777
Answer if you can

1740
01:28:42,818 --> 01:28:46,614
I want somebody to tell me

1741
01:28:46,655 --> 01:28:49,408
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1742
01:28:49,450 --> 01:28:53,579
Well, won't somebody tell me

1743
01:28:53,621 --> 01:28:56,916
Answer if you can

1744
01:28:56,957 --> 01:29:00,711
I want somebody to tell me

1745
01:29:00,753 --> 01:29:04,423
Just what is the soul      
               of a man