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[bright tone]
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[skateboard wheels rumbling]
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[thumping and sliding]
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[bearings whirring softly]
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[footsteps]
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- [softly]
Damn it.
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[breathing heavily]
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Fuck!
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Fuck!
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[screams]
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[bearings whirring softly]
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[meditative ambient music]
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♪ ♪
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I'm willing to struggle
through the learning process,
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even change my approach
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just to figure out
how to do it.
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♪ ♪
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I never want to back down
from a challenge.
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♪ ♪
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If you're convinced
that you're going to fail,
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that will come to fruition.
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I was willing to get hurt
along the way,
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but I didn't visualize myself
getting hurt along the way.
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♪ ♪
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I always approached it like,
"This is going to work."
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"I'm going
to figure this out."
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[soft dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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My mom used to like
to tell the story
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that when she would
play tennis with me,
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I would purposely just try
to hit her with the balls.
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♪ ♪
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She scolded me at one point.
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She's like,
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"I think you're trying
to hit me, Tony.
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"I'm not going to play
with you
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if you're just trying
to hurt me."
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♪ ♪
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I don't know
what my disorder was,
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but I was
definitely difficult.
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I was determined
to have my way
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to the point of being
very combative.
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My mom would say that I was--
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she just said
I was very determined.
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I was really young,
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but I remember my mom was
so frustrated with me
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'cause I just wouldn't do
what she said.
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I wanted to do something,
I wanted to do something else,
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I--and she finally just said,
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"If you don't
stop being difficult,
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I'm going to flush myself
down the toilet."
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I didn't believe it,
I didn't care, I didn't quit,
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and she went in the bathroom
and flushed the toilet and hid.
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She watched me lean over,
the toilet is swirling, going,
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"My mommy!"
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[chuckles]
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- I think she is
in the beauty parlor.
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- Oh, really?
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both: Hi.
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- I'm gonna pull her out
whenever she's done.
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- Okay.
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- All right, thank you.
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- Thank you.
Bye-bye.
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- Hi, Mom.
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Hi, Mom, it's Tony.
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How are you?
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How have you been?
You look good.
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I leave for Montreal next week
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for another one
of those skate contests.
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Keegan is turning 18
in a couple weeks...
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Which is
a frightening prospect.
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And then once Calvin is out,
we only have Kady.
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It's gonna be crazy.
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But I guess by that time,
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the older kids will move
back in.
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[laughs]
Isn't that what they do?
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Maybe not.
Your kids didn't.
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'Cause you taught us
to be independent.
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♪ ♪
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It was always a big deal
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that my mom was 43
when she had me.
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People would say,
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"Oh, she's much older,"
you know?
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And, "There are lots of risks
involved."
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- Tony and I are
20 years apart.
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I was a junior in college
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when my mom told me
she was pregnant.
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- I was a senior
in high school.
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All of Tony's siblings,
including me, we're older.
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- I'm 12 1/2 years older
than Tony,
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so when he was young,
especially,
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our relationship
was almost as much...
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paternal as fraternal.
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- I was basically
an only child,
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and my parents were old enough
to be my grandparents.
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- He was stuck at home
with my mom and dad
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at a time when their marriage
wasn't so great.
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- My dad wasn't working a lot.
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He had been retired
from the Navy
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and kind of finding his way.
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- My brother was a surfer.
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He drove him, you know,
dawn patrol to get the waves.
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My sister was a singer.
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He was hauling
all their band gear.
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He was the coach
of our baseball team.
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The first time I ever
went to bat in Little League,
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I was probably
about eight or nine.
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I knew I was gonna hit it.
I was gonna get a home run.
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Failure was not an option.
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I didn't even consider what
would happen if I struck out.
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And then I remember
striking out
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and thinking
the world had ended.
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I always felt
a little misplaced
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in all of those sports.
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I couldn't do
the physical things
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that most of my peers could do
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because they were bigger
and they were stronger,
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and so I was always
just feeling uncomfortable
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and kind of disappointed
in myself.
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- People would say,
"Oh, you have adult children,
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and you have--
and you have Tony?"
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She goes, "Yeah,
he's our little mistake."
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- I really do think
that that played a role
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in his, um...his psyche.
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That she would have had
an abortion if she could have
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in some ways, I think,
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maybe made him want
to prove himself.
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- Bye, Mom. I love you.
We'll see you soon, okay?
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- Thanks for the visit.
Enjoy your lunch.
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Do you see me now?
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[sighs]
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My mom was always careful
with her words,
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always positive.
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And then, I think, one day,
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I was just pushing her buttons,
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and she's like, "You know,
you're just full of it.
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You're just full of it, Tony.
Full of it."
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I'm like, "What?"
She goes, "You're full of...
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"shit.
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You're full of shit."
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And I was like...
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- Tony was a bit of a dick
when he was little.
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Stubborn as fuck.
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He and my dad
would bicker like crazy.
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I got along
with Tony way better
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when it was just
the two of us.
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So I would often go off--
we'd go off,
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go to the beach
or go someplace.
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- And I remember
he and his friend were skating
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in the alleyway,
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and there was
another skateboard,
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this older one
that was just sitting there,
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and I said,
"Well, can I try that one?"
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I just was going down
the alley,
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yelling back, "How do I turn?
How do I turn?"
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And then I eventually
ran into the fence.
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It wasn't like the skies parted
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and there was
some great revelation.
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It was more like,
"Oh, this is hard."
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[upbeat surf rock music]
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- You know, that skateboard has
gone on to be kind of a thing.
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It's now--we--
it's in the Smithsonian.
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- Freedom.
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I'm moving fast,
but I'm in control
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and I'm flowing.
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I could just
cruise the landscape.
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Going down hills.
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Terrible ramps
in our driveway.
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Everything about it
spoke to me.
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- He just needed focus,
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and so when he started
focusing and skateboarding,
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he changed.
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♪ ♪
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- He just calmed down.
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He just walked
through the world
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with a lot more kind of
maturity and generosity.
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- The main skate park
in San Diego was called Oasis.
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It was just under
a freeway overpass.
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And we would see it,
and it was like,
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"Oh, there's Oasis."
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Older kids going way faster
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than I had ever seen
anyone on a skateboard.
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And it just looked
scary as hell.
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There were these five craters,
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and I was going
down the crater and up
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and then down the crater
and up,
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and I thought
that was super cool.
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And this big kid
came flying up,
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and he jumped
over the middle crater,
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and I was like,
"How did that just happen?"
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I just couldn't believe
what I saw,
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and I said, "Oh, this is it.
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I'm doing this.
This is my life."
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I quit playing baseball
and basketball.
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♪ ♪
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- I remember once
when I was home from college,
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my mom asked me
to go pick him up
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at the Oasis skate park
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because dinner
was almost ready.
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So I was just gonna run
down there and grab him,
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but he was in the process
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of learning
frontside rock and rolls.
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And he was getting close,
and so of course,
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you know, the closer you get,
the more you slam, and--
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but he was young enough
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where he was actually crying,
I think, over this.
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And I'm like,
"Tony, come on, we got to go."
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And he's like,
"I'm gonna make"--
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Just, I wasn't even there,
you know?
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And then finally, he made one
clean and rolled away.
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And it was like
everything kind of lifted.
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And he didn't, like, run over
and give me a high five.
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It was like--
[sighs] "Okay."
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And I've seen that
in him a bunch
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when he's learning something.
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He'll get really pissed off,
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and then as soon
as he makes it,
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he's back to being his nice,
normal Tony Hawk self.
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[Free's "All Right Now"]
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ Oh, whoa, whoa ♪
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♪ ♪
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- I knew of Stacy's name
because of the Dogtown crew.
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And so I knew
more of his reputation
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than his skating.
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- Stacy had been there.
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You know,
he'd blazed the trail.
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He had been a pro.
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He knew
what that was all about.
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- He was just
this iconic figure.
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He formed the Bones Brigade.
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- ♪ Baby, it's all right now ♪
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♪ ♪
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- He just seemed like
this sort of--
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I wouldn't say father figure,
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but definitely a figurehead
of skateboarding.
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♪ ♪
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- I was a fixture at every one
of these contests.
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I was at every pro contest.
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I was at every
amateur contest.
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♪ ♪
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Tony did not display
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any physical talent.
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You could watch Tony
as a 13-year-old kid
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and go, "Dime a dozen,"
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because he was so weak
and so skinny
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that he skated as if he was
being operated by a puppeteer.
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He was just this kind of,
like, guy like this.
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But the one thing
that he did have is,
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you could see in this
little weakling of a kid
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this intense determination.
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You could see in there,
there was a mind going,
259
00:15:48,460 --> 00:15:50,377
"Do this! Do this!"
260
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[Echo & the Bunnymen's
"Never Stop"]
261
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♪ ♪
262
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- One time,
I was at the skate park,
263
00:15:56,252 --> 00:15:57,877
and the Bones Brigade
showed up.
264
00:15:57,961 --> 00:15:59,418
And you just knew it
immediately.
265
00:15:59,502 --> 00:16:01,293
Like, there was a hush
in the skate park.
266
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♪ ♪
267
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Everyone on the team
were considered
268
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some of the best skaters.
269
00:16:11,669 --> 00:16:13,418
And Stacy was walking in
with these guys,
270
00:16:13,502 --> 00:16:16,085
and they all had these, like,
cool-colored helmets
271
00:16:16,168 --> 00:16:18,585
and their Bones Brigade
shirts.
272
00:16:18,669 --> 00:16:21,794
And I was just like,
"This is the future."
273
00:16:21,877 --> 00:16:23,752
- I remember Stacy was
at the park, and I'm like,
274
00:16:23,835 --> 00:16:26,543
"Hey, is there any way I can
get on your guys' thing?"
275
00:16:26,627 --> 00:16:29,085
Like, "Hey, man",
276
00:16:29,168 --> 00:16:32,210
"I think you should just
stick with G&S.
277
00:16:32,293 --> 00:16:34,043
You'd be better on them, man."
278
00:16:34,126 --> 00:16:38,210
He probably had the vision
of the Brigade right then.
279
00:16:38,293 --> 00:16:41,627
And maybe he was like,
"It's not gonna work, dog."
280
00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:44,752
- Stacy was gonna get
his own little phenoms
281
00:16:44,835 --> 00:16:46,585
and younger guys
and build it up.
282
00:16:46,669 --> 00:16:48,585
So I was like, "Wow,
I can get on the team."
283
00:16:48,669 --> 00:16:53,543
♪ ♪
284
00:16:53,627 --> 00:16:54,835
- You know, Stacy Peralta
285
00:16:54,919 --> 00:16:58,961
was a cool kind of,
like, mentor
286
00:16:59,043 --> 00:17:02,293
for me at 12 years old
riding for Bones Brigade.
287
00:17:02,377 --> 00:17:03,585
There came a point
where I was like,
288
00:17:03,669 --> 00:17:05,002
"I want to turn pro."
289
00:17:05,085 --> 00:17:07,627
Stacy was like,
"No, you're not ready."
290
00:17:07,710 --> 00:17:09,585
- I lost Christian Hosoi.
291
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:12,043
His dad didn't think I was
moving his career along
292
00:17:12,126 --> 00:17:14,585
fast enough,
so I had a vacancy.
293
00:17:14,669 --> 00:17:17,002
And I had been watching Tony.
294
00:17:17,085 --> 00:17:20,502
- He kind of summoned me
to Marina del Rey.
295
00:17:20,585 --> 00:17:22,877
My brother offered
to drive me up there.
296
00:17:22,961 --> 00:17:25,669
We got up there, he handed me
this experimental
297
00:17:25,752 --> 00:17:28,335
Steve Caballero
model skateboard,
298
00:17:28,418 --> 00:17:31,377
and I just started skating,
and I jumped the channel.
299
00:17:31,460 --> 00:17:34,210
And that was no small feat
to jump the Marina channel.
300
00:17:34,293 --> 00:17:35,502
That thing was big.
301
00:17:35,585 --> 00:17:37,002
And basically, he said,
302
00:17:37,085 --> 00:17:38,502
"If you want to be
on the Bones Brigade,
303
00:17:38,585 --> 00:17:40,293
we'd love to have you."
304
00:17:40,377 --> 00:17:42,543
- He realized
this kid's got grit.
305
00:17:42,627 --> 00:17:43,835
He doesn't give up.
306
00:17:43,919 --> 00:17:46,919
He's also really skilled.
307
00:17:47,002 --> 00:17:48,919
He's also gonna get bigger
and get stronger.
308
00:17:49,002 --> 00:17:51,961
- ♪ Measure by measure,
drop by drop ♪
309
00:17:52,043 --> 00:17:55,460
♪ And pound for pound,
we're taking stock ♪
310
00:17:55,543 --> 00:17:59,126
♪ Of all the treasure
still unlocked ♪
311
00:17:59,210 --> 00:18:02,627
♪ The love you found
must never ♪
312
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:05,335
♪ Measure by measure ♪
313
00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:08,043
- When I was officially
on the team of Powell,
314
00:18:08,126 --> 00:18:10,919
that was way scarier
than anything else,
315
00:18:11,002 --> 00:18:13,669
where it was suddenly like
I was on this next level
316
00:18:13,752 --> 00:18:18,168
of team, of ability,
of belief,
317
00:18:18,252 --> 00:18:22,293
and I had so much more
to prove.
318
00:18:22,377 --> 00:18:24,543
- The first time I saw Tony,
I was like,
319
00:18:24,627 --> 00:18:26,335
"Look at this little kid."
320
00:18:26,418 --> 00:18:30,543
He was probably, I don't know,
60 pounds wet, maybe.
321
00:18:30,627 --> 00:18:31,835
- We were in a hot tub.
322
00:18:31,919 --> 00:18:35,543
We were hazing him like
he's the new guy on the team.
323
00:18:35,627 --> 00:18:37,126
I said, "Hey, dude,
if you want to--you know",
324
00:18:37,210 --> 00:18:38,377
"if you want to be
part of the crew,
325
00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:40,252
you're gonna have
to give me your gum."
326
00:18:40,335 --> 00:18:42,710
And I stuck it
in between my toes.
327
00:18:42,794 --> 00:18:44,126
And then I gave it back to him.
328
00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:45,669
I go, "You're gonna have
to chew this gum
329
00:18:45,752 --> 00:18:47,043
if you want to be
part of the crew."
330
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:48,877
And he did.
[laughs]
331
00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,043
- Now with Tony Hawk.
332
00:18:50,126 --> 00:18:51,418
Tony just finished
that first round.
333
00:18:51,502 --> 00:18:53,418
Do you think you're gonna make
the next cut to eight?
334
00:18:53,502 --> 00:18:55,377
- Uh, I think I have
a pretty good chance,
335
00:18:55,460 --> 00:18:57,210
because I stayed on my board,
336
00:18:57,293 --> 00:18:59,293
and that's pretty tough
to do in a competition.
337
00:18:59,377 --> 00:19:02,168
- Who do you think your
competition's gonna be today?
338
00:19:02,252 --> 00:19:04,794
- Uh, probably--
I'm gonna have a tough time
339
00:19:04,877 --> 00:19:06,794
beating pretty much anyone
who entered.
340
00:19:06,877 --> 00:19:10,877
Mainly Lance Mountain,
Mike McGill, Stevie Caballero.
341
00:19:10,961 --> 00:19:13,877
[gentle upbeat acoustic music]
342
00:19:13,961 --> 00:19:17,210
♪ ♪
343
00:19:17,293 --> 00:19:20,377
- He was a nightmare.
Total nightmare.
344
00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:22,210
[chuckling]
Complete, total nightmare.
345
00:19:22,293 --> 00:19:24,919
I remember when I first
picked him up on the team,
346
00:19:25,002 --> 00:19:26,835
we were at
the Upland skateboard park,
347
00:19:26,919 --> 00:19:28,418
and I said, "Well,
I'm gonna take you home."
348
00:19:28,502 --> 00:19:30,919
And he goes, "No, I want
to go to Chuck E. Cheese."
349
00:19:31,002 --> 00:19:32,002
And I go, "What's that?"
350
00:19:32,085 --> 00:19:33,961
He goes, "I want to go
to Chuck E. Cheese."
351
00:19:34,043 --> 00:19:35,126
And I go, "Yeah, what is it?"
352
00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:36,877
He goes, "It's a pizza place
where you can play games."
353
00:19:36,961 --> 00:19:38,585
I go, "I'm not going there."
354
00:19:38,669 --> 00:19:41,627
- [laughing]
355
00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:45,126
It was a Chuck E. Cheese.
356
00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:46,752
I know what he's talking about.
357
00:19:46,835 --> 00:19:49,627
[laughing]
358
00:19:52,835 --> 00:19:55,585
There was a--
I'm a creature of habit,
359
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:57,585
and so when we would
go skate Upland,
360
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:58,877
there were only
a few restaurants
361
00:19:58,961 --> 00:20:02,961
that I would allow myself
to go to.
362
00:20:03,043 --> 00:20:05,002
And Lamppost Pizza
was one of them.
363
00:20:05,085 --> 00:20:07,418
Like, a mild version
of Chuck E. Cheese.
364
00:20:07,502 --> 00:20:10,502
It was lots of games
and counter service.
365
00:20:10,585 --> 00:20:14,002
And they weren't known
for their cuisine.
366
00:20:14,085 --> 00:20:15,752
- He got me to take him there.
367
00:20:15,835 --> 00:20:17,543
It was the worst nightmare
of my life,
368
00:20:17,627 --> 00:20:19,168
but I'm sitting there going,
369
00:20:19,252 --> 00:20:21,752
"This 13-year-old brat
just got me to do something
370
00:20:21,835 --> 00:20:23,377
"I was firmly against doing.
371
00:20:23,460 --> 00:20:25,168
He's got some power."
372
00:20:25,252 --> 00:20:27,669
Just the décor and the sounds
373
00:20:27,752 --> 00:20:30,627
and all the awful food.
374
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:33,543
And I remember just thinking,
"I'm never doing this again.
375
00:20:33,627 --> 00:20:36,377
I'm never coming back
to this place again."
376
00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:37,794
- Stacy had the worst job.
377
00:20:37,877 --> 00:20:39,710
I mean, he was--
378
00:20:39,794 --> 00:20:41,418
he curated this awesome team,
379
00:20:41,502 --> 00:20:43,085
but we were all kids
in our own right,
380
00:20:43,168 --> 00:20:45,627
and we're all
with our own issues
381
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:49,335
and looking for validation,
looking for support.
382
00:20:49,418 --> 00:20:53,418
And suddenly, he had to be
this surrogate dad.
383
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,377
- I think the first time
I saw Tony skate
384
00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,168
was at Kona Skatepark.
385
00:20:58,252 --> 00:21:00,752
I had just gotten on the team,
386
00:21:00,835 --> 00:21:03,460
and they all came
from out west.
387
00:21:03,543 --> 00:21:05,252
And I remember meeting him,
388
00:21:05,335 --> 00:21:06,877
and I was so--
[laughs]
389
00:21:06,961 --> 00:21:09,377
I tripped out
because of how skinny he was.
390
00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:11,502
It was as though he had
a hard time
391
00:21:11,585 --> 00:21:13,168
getting up the wall.
392
00:21:13,252 --> 00:21:16,919
But the control he had
was insane.
393
00:21:17,752 --> 00:21:21,460
Immediately, you got a sense
that he's entirely different.
394
00:21:22,961 --> 00:21:25,835
- Rodney Mullen, like,
he and I were on
395
00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:29,168
complete parallel trajectories
with our skating.
396
00:21:29,252 --> 00:21:32,794
Rodney was the absolute best
freestyler in the world,
397
00:21:32,877 --> 00:21:37,418
a precision level
like no other athlete
398
00:21:37,502 --> 00:21:41,085
or performer you've ever seen.
399
00:21:41,168 --> 00:21:44,418
- Because we skated
completely different,
400
00:21:44,502 --> 00:21:47,835
that made it easier for me
to relate to him, in a sense.
401
00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:50,252
I never had to compete
against Tony.
402
00:21:50,335 --> 00:21:53,293
[soft rock music]
403
00:21:53,377 --> 00:21:54,585
♪ ♪
404
00:21:54,669 --> 00:21:57,210
Stacy would ship me down,
and I would stay with Tony,
405
00:21:57,293 --> 00:21:59,710
practice for the week
at Del Mar.
406
00:21:59,794 --> 00:22:04,210
That's when a real sense
of connection, for me,
407
00:22:04,293 --> 00:22:06,585
I had with Tony
more than any other skater.
408
00:22:06,669 --> 00:22:09,877
♪ ♪
409
00:22:09,961 --> 00:22:11,543
- No one understood us.
410
00:22:13,126 --> 00:22:14,752
But we understood each other.
411
00:22:14,835 --> 00:22:21,877
♪ ♪
412
00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:28,335
- I think watching Tony learn
and fall
413
00:22:28,418 --> 00:22:31,252
is more interesting
than watching him land tricks,
414
00:22:31,335 --> 00:22:34,168
because you can see
how fast he rifles
415
00:22:34,252 --> 00:22:36,752
to something called
the calculus of variations,
416
00:22:36,835 --> 00:22:38,752
of how he corrects himself
417
00:22:38,835 --> 00:22:41,585
and gets
to the right spot fast.
418
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:45,627
That, to this day,
is unparalleled.
419
00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:49,752
- Tony was able to figure out
how to overcome
420
00:22:49,835 --> 00:22:51,752
all of the things
he didn't have
421
00:22:51,835 --> 00:22:53,752
in order to get what he wanted.
422
00:22:53,835 --> 00:22:55,252
For instance,
423
00:22:55,335 --> 00:22:57,460
when skateboarders
originally did aerials,
424
00:22:57,543 --> 00:22:59,126
they'd go up
the side of the pool,
425
00:22:59,210 --> 00:23:00,752
and they'd pull the board off
426
00:23:00,835 --> 00:23:02,835
and kind of do
a leap into the air.
427
00:23:02,919 --> 00:23:04,168
Tony couldn't do that.
428
00:23:04,252 --> 00:23:06,877
He didn't have
the strength to leap.
429
00:23:06,961 --> 00:23:10,085
Most guys touch the board,
grab it, leap into the air.
430
00:23:10,168 --> 00:23:13,794
Tony figures out,
"I'll ollie into my aerials."
431
00:23:13,877 --> 00:23:16,835
He doesn't touch the board
until he's in the air.
432
00:23:16,919 --> 00:23:18,335
You never break your speed.
433
00:23:18,418 --> 00:23:20,126
It's one bang.
434
00:23:20,210 --> 00:23:22,502
Well, we discover
it's much more efficient
435
00:23:22,585 --> 00:23:23,961
to do it that way.
436
00:23:25,043 --> 00:23:26,627
- When I figured that out,
437
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:29,293
that changed everything
for me.
438
00:23:29,377 --> 00:23:31,418
I started doing varials
and finger flips
439
00:23:31,502 --> 00:23:32,835
way up in the air.
440
00:23:32,919 --> 00:23:34,669
- But of course,
when he first did it,
441
00:23:34,752 --> 00:23:35,919
people thought he was cheating.
442
00:23:36,002 --> 00:23:37,210
"That's cheating."
443
00:23:37,293 --> 00:23:39,210
It's a technique.
How can you be cheating?
444
00:23:39,293 --> 00:23:41,502
"It's cheating."
They thought it was cheating.
445
00:23:41,585 --> 00:23:44,710
You know, and at that time,
skateboarding was dominated
446
00:23:44,794 --> 00:23:47,418
by balls-out pool riders,
447
00:23:47,502 --> 00:23:49,377
Duane Peters, people like that
448
00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:52,543
that really had
power and flair.
449
00:23:52,627 --> 00:23:53,919
And here comes Tony Hawk
450
00:23:54,002 --> 00:23:56,126
with all these
weird little flip tricks.
451
00:23:56,210 --> 00:23:59,502
Those guys are looking at him
and going, "What is this?"
452
00:23:59,585 --> 00:24:01,502
- A lot of that shit, dude,
I mean,
453
00:24:01,585 --> 00:24:04,043
I still can't understand it
when I look at it.
454
00:24:04,126 --> 00:24:08,335
It's like fuckin'
flippy doo-da-day bullshit.
455
00:24:08,418 --> 00:24:11,293
Go fucking play
with your sister's baton, bro.
456
00:24:11,377 --> 00:24:13,919
[indistinct chatter]
457
00:24:14,002 --> 00:24:15,168
- Want me to do it again?
458
00:24:15,252 --> 00:24:16,710
- Yeah, go ahead.
459
00:24:16,794 --> 00:24:18,002
Okay.
460
00:24:18,085 --> 00:24:19,418
What do you think
of skateboarding?
461
00:24:19,502 --> 00:24:21,335
- What do I think of it?
462
00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:22,752
Well, I've supported it
pretty strong
463
00:24:22,835 --> 00:24:24,543
for a lot of years.
464
00:24:31,002 --> 00:24:33,919
- Confusion.
- Confusion?
465
00:24:34,002 --> 00:24:35,252
- My dad wanted to make sure
466
00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:36,794
that there was organization
in place,
467
00:24:36,877 --> 00:24:39,919
that if Tony was gonna
be this committed to it,
468
00:24:40,002 --> 00:24:43,043
you know, he could actually
get some recognition for it.
469
00:24:43,126 --> 00:24:45,794
- My dad helped
to form the NSA,
470
00:24:45,877 --> 00:24:48,835
which became
the sanctioning body
471
00:24:48,919 --> 00:24:50,585
for all the main events.
472
00:24:50,669 --> 00:24:53,043
- The NSA was the National
Skateboard Association.
473
00:24:53,126 --> 00:24:55,418
And people used to say,
"No skating allowed."
474
00:24:55,502 --> 00:24:58,543
And especially Mr. Hawk being
the guy who was, you know,
475
00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:00,210
yelling at people
to get off the ramp.
476
00:25:00,293 --> 00:25:02,460
- Do not
come down to the ramp.
477
00:25:02,543 --> 00:25:04,252
Please, get off the ramp.
478
00:25:04,335 --> 00:25:06,961
[cheers and applause]
479
00:25:07,043 --> 00:25:08,502
- He loved yelling at kids.
480
00:25:08,585 --> 00:25:09,961
You know,
"Get behind the barrier!"
481
00:25:10,043 --> 00:25:11,794
[laughing]
He loved doing that.
482
00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:15,002
- He just--he always had
this grimace about him.
483
00:25:15,085 --> 00:25:16,002
Super serious.
484
00:25:16,085 --> 00:25:20,043
Never saw him smile
or laugh about anything.
485
00:25:20,126 --> 00:25:23,126
Just always walking around
kind of like a--
486
00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:24,752
I don't think he drank,
but he seemed like
487
00:25:24,835 --> 00:25:27,126
just a pissed-off alcoholic,
basically.
488
00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:28,919
- He was a bull
in a china shop.
489
00:25:29,002 --> 00:25:32,418
He had no finesse whatsoever.
490
00:25:32,502 --> 00:25:35,418
But he actually had
a really, really good heart.
491
00:25:35,502 --> 00:25:37,835
I mean, he came at a time
in skateboarding
492
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:39,919
where skateboarding
really needed a guy
493
00:25:40,002 --> 00:25:43,085
like Frank Hawk to say,
"Look at this circus carnival.
494
00:25:43,168 --> 00:25:44,961
We got to focus this
a little bit."
495
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,502
- And this is giving
in those spots,
496
00:25:46,585 --> 00:25:48,210
and they're riding it
and going "uh, uh, uh."
497
00:25:48,293 --> 00:25:49,543
- And he did a remarkable job,
498
00:25:49,627 --> 00:25:50,835
and he didn't get
anything for it
499
00:25:50,919 --> 00:25:52,669
except crap from people.
500
00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,919
- He carried around, like,
a little ledger a lot
501
00:25:56,002 --> 00:25:57,627
and was always looking harsh
at people.
502
00:25:59,043 --> 00:26:02,335
- I remember going,
"Fuck you," to his old man.
503
00:26:02,418 --> 00:26:03,877
Like,
"Get the fuck out of here,
504
00:26:03,961 --> 00:26:06,085
"and take these
fucking grubby kids with--
505
00:26:06,168 --> 00:26:07,752
get a fucking job."
506
00:26:07,835 --> 00:26:10,210
I'd go across the fence.
507
00:26:10,293 --> 00:26:12,794
"Get a fucking job."
You know.
508
00:26:12,877 --> 00:26:14,710
"Now he wants to bring
his Army shit
509
00:26:14,794 --> 00:26:16,585
to the National
Skateboarding Associ"--
510
00:26:16,669 --> 00:26:18,460
you know, blah, blah.
511
00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:22,002
- He just came off
as gruff and militant,
512
00:26:22,085 --> 00:26:24,085
and they were like,
"Fuck that dude.
513
00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:25,168
That's your dad?"
514
00:26:25,252 --> 00:26:28,210
Like, and that would be
reflected on me.
515
00:26:28,293 --> 00:26:31,543
[Sex Pistols'
"Anarchy in the UK"]
516
00:26:31,627 --> 00:26:33,377
♪ ♪
517
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,543
- Right....now.
518
00:26:36,627 --> 00:26:38,585
[laughs]
519
00:26:38,669 --> 00:26:41,710
- One of the first times
I ever got to skate with pros,
520
00:26:41,794 --> 00:26:45,961
I remember seeing Steve Olson
and Duane Peters,
521
00:26:46,043 --> 00:26:48,002
and, of course,
I knew both of them.
522
00:26:48,085 --> 00:26:49,335
They're heroes.
523
00:26:49,418 --> 00:26:51,002
So I went over
to kind of skate
524
00:26:51,085 --> 00:26:53,210
near the area
they were skating
525
00:26:53,293 --> 00:26:56,418
and kept sort of
inching my way closer to them.
526
00:26:56,502 --> 00:26:59,502
- They were in a bowl,
and we were riding up.
527
00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:04,460
We'd either chase them out
or go to the next one.
528
00:27:04,543 --> 00:27:07,418
- I wanted to be near them.
529
00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:10,085
I wanted to be
skating with them.
530
00:27:10,168 --> 00:27:11,585
- "Fuck this."
531
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:14,252
I mean, these geeky kids.
532
00:27:14,335 --> 00:27:15,543
"Hey, we want to follow you."
533
00:27:15,627 --> 00:27:17,585
- And they were laughing
about something,
534
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:18,919
some inside joke.
535
00:27:19,002 --> 00:27:21,252
And I kind of snickered.
"Yeah, yeah," you know?
536
00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:23,085
Like, "Yeah, yeah,"
like I'm in on the joke.
537
00:27:23,168 --> 00:27:27,043
Duane turned towards me,
spit on my grip tape,
538
00:27:27,126 --> 00:27:29,418
and was like,
"This is punk rock, kid."
539
00:27:29,502 --> 00:27:32,877
- I don't remember spitting
on Hawk, but he does.
540
00:27:32,961 --> 00:27:34,543
I did this shit a lot,
541
00:27:34,627 --> 00:27:38,168
especially to guys
that are coming in to--
542
00:27:38,252 --> 00:27:39,669
wanting to be pro.
543
00:27:39,752 --> 00:27:41,585
They're coming in
to take our spots.
544
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:42,710
Fuck you.
545
00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:45,710
[somber music]
546
00:27:45,794 --> 00:27:51,961
♪ ♪
547
00:27:52,043 --> 00:27:55,460
- It just reminded me
that I don't belong
548
00:27:55,543 --> 00:27:57,210
and this is a mistake
549
00:27:57,293 --> 00:28:01,627
and I can't even fit
into the skateboard world.
550
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:02,961
That was heavy for me.
551
00:28:03,043 --> 00:28:06,835
♪ ♪
552
00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:08,627
- He took a lot of shit.
553
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:12,252
He got a lot--people fired
a lot of arrows at him.
554
00:28:12,335 --> 00:28:15,085
He never really let on
how much that hurt, I think,
555
00:28:15,168 --> 00:28:17,043
at the time in the skate world.
556
00:28:17,126 --> 00:28:20,168
And he never showed...
557
00:28:22,335 --> 00:28:24,168
Kind of that resentful side
558
00:28:24,252 --> 00:28:26,210
that I'm sure
he must've been feeling.
559
00:28:26,293 --> 00:28:27,919
He just put his head down
and said, "Fuck it."
560
00:28:28,002 --> 00:28:29,752
"I'm gonna skate
as hard as I can,
561
00:28:29,835 --> 00:28:32,210
"I'm gonna get
as good as I can,
562
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:35,335
"and I'm gonna show
these assholes that, you know,
563
00:28:35,418 --> 00:28:36,835
I'm the best skater
out there."
564
00:28:36,919 --> 00:28:42,085
♪ ♪
565
00:28:42,168 --> 00:28:44,335
- Leading up to this
Whittier contest,
566
00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:47,585
November of 1982,
567
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:51,543
I had just done really well
at the pro versus am event.
568
00:28:51,627 --> 00:28:53,502
All my peers were pro.
569
00:28:53,585 --> 00:28:55,627
And it was like,
"You're next."
570
00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:57,794
At the competition,
571
00:28:57,877 --> 00:28:59,752
we're filling out
the entry forms.
572
00:28:59,835 --> 00:29:01,669
It says "pro or amateur" box.
573
00:29:01,752 --> 00:29:04,002
Like, that determines
which category you're in.
574
00:29:04,085 --> 00:29:08,002
And I remember feeling Stacy
looking over my shoulder.
575
00:29:09,335 --> 00:29:11,293
I just checked pro.
576
00:29:11,377 --> 00:29:13,961
Then I looked up at him,
and I go, "Is that okay?"
577
00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:15,877
And he's like, "If that's
what you want to do."
578
00:29:15,961 --> 00:29:17,543
And then I was pro.
579
00:29:17,627 --> 00:29:19,043
- That was it.
- That was it.
580
00:29:19,126 --> 00:29:20,418
[laughs]
581
00:29:20,502 --> 00:29:23,210
There's no--
there's no champagne.
582
00:29:23,293 --> 00:29:25,794
[rock music]
583
00:29:25,877 --> 00:29:30,293
I suddenly felt,
"This is super scary."
584
00:29:30,377 --> 00:29:32,961
Duane Peters is skating.
585
00:29:33,043 --> 00:29:36,460
My first thought was,
"Don't put me against Duane."
586
00:29:36,543 --> 00:29:39,377
- I went against him
on his first contest.
587
00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:41,502
- First head-to-head event
as a pro,
588
00:29:41,585 --> 00:29:43,126
I'm going against
Duane Peters.
589
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:46,335
- This is gonna be easy.
I'm taking this fucker.
590
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:48,002
- Duane Peters.
These guys go head-on-head.
591
00:29:48,085 --> 00:29:49,168
It's who does better.
592
00:29:50,752 --> 00:29:53,669
[Adolescents'
"Kids of the Black Hole"]
593
00:29:53,752 --> 00:30:00,377
♪ ♪
594
00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:01,377
- Go!
595
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:08,418
♪ ♪
596
00:30:19,961 --> 00:30:22,210
♪ Kids in a fast lane,
living for today ♪
597
00:30:22,293 --> 00:30:25,293
♪ No rules to abide by
and no one to obey ♪
598
00:30:25,377 --> 00:30:28,877
- I can't see how difficult
these tricks are.
599
00:30:28,961 --> 00:30:31,877
They just look
fucking lame to me.
600
00:30:31,961 --> 00:30:34,877
- I knew for sure he did not
want me to beat him.
601
00:30:34,961 --> 00:30:37,168
My thought was,
"Stay on target.
602
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:39,126
Make your run."
603
00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:41,627
- ♪ House of the filthy,
house not a home ♪
604
00:30:41,710 --> 00:30:44,168
♪ House of destruction
where the lurkers roamed ♪
605
00:30:44,252 --> 00:30:47,335
♪ House that belonged
to all the homeless kids ♪
606
00:30:47,418 --> 00:30:49,794
♪ House of the filthy,
house not a home ♪
607
00:30:49,877 --> 00:30:52,126
♪ House of destruction
where the lurkers roamed ♪
608
00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:54,627
- Tony's dad's all excited.
609
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:56,627
They're all
by the judging thing.
610
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:57,961
- ♪ Kids of the black hole ♪
611
00:30:58,043 --> 00:31:01,293
♪ ♪
612
00:31:01,377 --> 00:31:04,627
- Tony Hawk beats out
Duane Peters at 86.66.
613
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:05,752
[cheers and applause]
614
00:31:05,835 --> 00:31:06,752
- I heard the scores,
615
00:31:06,835 --> 00:31:08,710
and it took a second
for it to register.
616
00:31:08,794 --> 00:31:10,919
And I was thinking,
"I beat Duane?
617
00:31:11,002 --> 00:31:12,252
"I beat Duane.
618
00:31:12,335 --> 00:31:14,585
I beat Duane!"
619
00:31:14,669 --> 00:31:18,335
- I was an old guy
on his way out.
620
00:31:18,418 --> 00:31:20,210
New crew coming in.
621
00:31:22,377 --> 00:31:26,835
That hurt, and--'cause I was--
622
00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:28,502
all of a sudden,
it mattered to me.
623
00:31:28,585 --> 00:31:30,502
- Was that your last contest?
- Yeah.
624
00:31:30,585 --> 00:31:32,293
Pretty much everybody's, yeah.
625
00:31:35,002 --> 00:31:36,252
[tone hums, static crackles]
626
00:31:36,335 --> 00:31:37,502
- Hi, I'm Bob Burbanks,
627
00:31:37,585 --> 00:31:39,460
and welcome to "Weekend Today."
628
00:31:39,543 --> 00:31:41,710
We're gonna take an exciting
look at skateboarding.
629
00:31:41,794 --> 00:31:44,794
This is a skateboard.
- That's not a skateboard.
630
00:31:44,877 --> 00:31:46,126
- Some neighborhood
daredevils...
631
00:31:46,210 --> 00:31:47,627
- We're gonna do
a little adjusting here.
632
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:49,460
- Right here
on "Weekend Today."
633
00:31:49,543 --> 00:31:50,502
[glass shatters]
634
00:31:56,043 --> 00:31:58,126
- Now, this is a skateboard.
635
00:31:58,210 --> 00:32:01,210
[The Faction's
"Skate & Destroy"]
636
00:32:01,293 --> 00:32:06,710
♪ ♪
637
00:32:08,293 --> 00:32:11,085
- ♪ Forget the light,
skate and destroy ♪
638
00:32:11,168 --> 00:32:14,377
- Stacy took a chance
putting out money
639
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:16,794
to make a video
of skateboarding.
640
00:32:17,961 --> 00:32:20,043
- We originally made
the Bones Brigade videos
641
00:32:20,126 --> 00:32:22,961
thinking that skateboard shops
would play them.
642
00:32:23,043 --> 00:32:24,335
And then, we didn't realize,
643
00:32:24,418 --> 00:32:26,085
but the release
of the first one
644
00:32:26,168 --> 00:32:29,961
coincided with 70%
of Americans buying VCRs.
645
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:32,877
- I think a lot of people,
646
00:32:32,961 --> 00:32:34,543
that's where
they first saw me.
647
00:32:34,627 --> 00:32:38,210
[upbeat rock music]
648
00:32:38,293 --> 00:32:40,085
- And it also coincided
649
00:32:40,168 --> 00:32:43,252
when Tony started
to get strong.
650
00:32:43,335 --> 00:32:45,627
- That was when Tony
first kind of came in
651
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:47,126
as this wunderkind.
652
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:49,752
So when the first
Bones Brigade video came out,
653
00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:53,002
which was the first
action sports video ever made,
654
00:32:53,085 --> 00:32:54,961
Tony was on the cover.
655
00:32:55,043 --> 00:32:56,919
- It was so fun to see it.
656
00:32:57,002 --> 00:32:58,585
It was so fun to see everyone
657
00:32:58,669 --> 00:33:01,252
separately but together
in the same video.
658
00:33:01,335 --> 00:33:03,502
And Lance was the thread
that brought it all in.
659
00:33:03,585 --> 00:33:06,877
And when I saw my part,
I thought it was super cool.
660
00:33:06,961 --> 00:33:09,043
I just couldn't believe
that he had managed
661
00:33:09,126 --> 00:33:11,252
to make it all work together.
662
00:33:11,335 --> 00:33:13,627
And he's putting things
in slo-mo.
663
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:15,502
I mean, it just felt like--
664
00:33:15,585 --> 00:33:17,168
like it was my birthday party.
665
00:33:17,252 --> 00:33:19,835
[laughs]
666
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,877
[indistinct chatter]
667
00:33:27,002 --> 00:33:30,961
- Caballero and Tony were
always in the top five,
668
00:33:31,043 --> 00:33:32,961
and I was kind of
fading a bit, you know?
669
00:33:33,043 --> 00:33:35,418
And I was just finding it
harder and harder
670
00:33:35,502 --> 00:33:37,126
to get up into that top ten.
671
00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:39,252
And I'm like, "Oh, I guess
this is it for me."
672
00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:41,543
I need something,
you know, that's"--
673
00:33:41,627 --> 00:33:43,627
so I started going
to some of these camps,
674
00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:45,585
you know, helping to teach.
675
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:49,543
And at one Swedish camp,
I, you know, made this trick
676
00:33:49,627 --> 00:33:53,252
called the McTwist,
which is a 540.
677
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:56,126
People would ask me,
"What is that, Mike?"
678
00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:59,627
- Mike McGill came
to a Del Mar contest,
679
00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:02,752
and there was all this buzz
that he had a new trick.
680
00:34:02,835 --> 00:34:06,502
And people were purposely
not telling me what it was,
681
00:34:06,585 --> 00:34:09,418
because they thought somehow
I was gonna learn it.
682
00:34:09,502 --> 00:34:13,377
Mike shows up,
and first day of practice,
683
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:14,543
he does a McTwist.
684
00:34:14,627 --> 00:34:16,669
[tense music]
685
00:34:16,752 --> 00:34:19,502
Full 1 1/2 somersault
in the air,
686
00:34:19,585 --> 00:34:22,293
coming down forward,
going backside direction,
687
00:34:22,377 --> 00:34:25,627
which means you're totally
blind to your landing zone.
688
00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:28,418
And it was just like,
"What happened?
689
00:34:28,502 --> 00:34:31,794
Were you training
with gymnasts?"
690
00:34:31,877 --> 00:34:33,293
I knew then and there
691
00:34:33,377 --> 00:34:35,293
that I was gonna have
to learn it.
692
00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:38,418
- There's a few tricks that
have been chased for years.
693
00:34:38,502 --> 00:34:40,669
And it was one that everyone
knew could be possible,
694
00:34:40,752 --> 00:34:42,293
but no one knew how to do it
695
00:34:42,377 --> 00:34:45,085
or try it or even have
the guts to try it right.
696
00:34:45,168 --> 00:34:47,252
And it took McGill to do it,
which was,
697
00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:48,794
you got to do it 6 foot out.
698
00:34:48,877 --> 00:34:50,043
You can't do it low.
699
00:34:50,126 --> 00:34:52,418
Everyone was trying it low
to figure it out.
700
00:34:52,502 --> 00:34:55,543
And you had to have the actual
wherewithal to, like,
701
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:58,252
"Oh, I've got to launch
into the sky
702
00:34:58,335 --> 00:34:59,961
and see what happens."
703
00:35:00,043 --> 00:35:01,585
- That kind of spiraled me
704
00:35:01,669 --> 00:35:05,794
and put me in the top five
every contest.
705
00:35:05,877 --> 00:35:07,252
- You developed the McTwist.
706
00:35:07,335 --> 00:35:08,835
Are you gonna be able to
pull that off here in this--
707
00:35:08,919 --> 00:35:10,627
- Uh, hopefully.
708
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:12,627
- When I did try it,
709
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:15,293
I realized
how much harder it is
710
00:35:15,377 --> 00:35:16,794
than I thought it would be.
711
00:35:16,877 --> 00:35:19,002
I didn't come close.
712
00:35:19,085 --> 00:35:20,835
I couldn't see
my landing zone.
713
00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,669
I don't even know if I had
a good hold on my board.
714
00:35:23,752 --> 00:35:25,835
- I can imagine how hard
you slam on that trick,
715
00:35:25,919 --> 00:35:27,210
'cause you're just
spinning freely,
716
00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:29,627
and if you overturn,
it's done, dude.
717
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:32,710
♪ ♪
718
00:35:32,794 --> 00:35:36,252
- I was hyper-focused,
obsessed with the trick.
719
00:35:36,335 --> 00:35:38,418
I had to figure it out.
720
00:35:38,502 --> 00:35:40,543
I remember being in school
721
00:35:40,627 --> 00:35:43,460
and just knowing
the bell's gonna ring
722
00:35:43,543 --> 00:35:44,752
and I'm going
straight to the park
723
00:35:44,835 --> 00:35:45,919
and trying McTwists.
724
00:35:46,002 --> 00:35:48,669
That was the only thing
I was focused on.
725
00:35:48,752 --> 00:35:51,627
I started getting the spin
more consistent.
726
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:53,877
I started seeing
the landing zone,
727
00:35:53,961 --> 00:35:55,543
and then it was
pretty obvious, like,
728
00:35:55,627 --> 00:35:57,252
well, there's only
one more stage,
729
00:35:57,335 --> 00:36:00,335
and that's just that you got
to suck it up and land.
730
00:36:00,418 --> 00:36:01,919
- How hard was that trick
to learn?
731
00:36:02,002 --> 00:36:02,961
- Simple.
732
00:36:03,043 --> 00:36:04,627
- Simple?
- Mm-hmm.
733
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:07,043
It's not technique.
It's balls.
734
00:36:07,126 --> 00:36:08,335
And I have no problem
spinning it,
735
00:36:08,418 --> 00:36:10,543
but do I want to set it down?
736
00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:13,418
That's all just guts.
737
00:36:13,502 --> 00:36:16,418
[The Clash's
"Somebody Got Murdered"]
738
00:36:16,502 --> 00:36:23,460
♪ ♪
739
00:36:31,877 --> 00:36:34,085
- The 540 was the trick
740
00:36:34,168 --> 00:36:35,585
that you needed
to win competitions,
741
00:36:35,669 --> 00:36:37,210
and once you learned
that trick,
742
00:36:37,293 --> 00:36:38,669
you were in top three.
743
00:36:38,752 --> 00:36:40,710
- Did you attempt them?
744
00:36:40,794 --> 00:36:42,418
- I thought about doing them.
745
00:36:42,502 --> 00:36:46,252
And then I did some low stuff
like Tony used to do.
746
00:36:46,335 --> 00:36:47,460
And I just started trying to--
747
00:36:47,543 --> 00:36:49,002
and it was just like, "No way."
748
00:36:49,085 --> 00:36:51,585
So I couldn't do it.
I just backed out.
749
00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:53,669
I was like,
"It's not gonna work."
750
00:36:53,752 --> 00:36:56,293
- Neil Blender, are you gonna
make the finals tomorrow?
751
00:36:56,377 --> 00:36:57,335
- No.
752
00:36:57,418 --> 00:36:59,752
They just called them out.
Didn't even make it.
753
00:36:59,835 --> 00:37:02,043
Should've seen me,
falling all over the bowl.
754
00:37:02,126 --> 00:37:04,002
- There was contests
I couldn't skate at all,
755
00:37:04,085 --> 00:37:06,627
and I'd just do, "Oh,
I'll do an axis ollie 540."
756
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:08,585
Made the cut. Whew.
757
00:37:08,669 --> 00:37:11,168
Money, done.
Paid.
758
00:37:11,252 --> 00:37:12,835
Buy diapers.
Done deal.
759
00:37:12,919 --> 00:37:14,252
- And it just became
760
00:37:14,335 --> 00:37:16,126
this proving ground,
where it was just like,
761
00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:18,377
"Are you doing a McTwist
or not?"
762
00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:20,961
'Cause this is where
we're all going towards.
763
00:37:21,043 --> 00:37:23,961
[Joy Division's
"Love Will Tear Us Apart"]
764
00:37:24,043 --> 00:37:31,002
♪ ♪
765
00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:41,877
- Okay, next skater up,
766
00:37:41,961 --> 00:37:43,710
Christian Hosoi.
767
00:37:43,794 --> 00:37:45,877
[cheers and applause]
768
00:37:45,961 --> 00:37:47,877
- Christian was a showman.
769
00:37:47,961 --> 00:37:49,919
He could show up
with his shirt off,
770
00:37:50,002 --> 00:37:51,710
dangling out
of his back pocket,
771
00:37:51,794 --> 00:37:53,460
and the crowd was with him.
772
00:37:55,961 --> 00:37:57,961
It was all style and air
with Christian,
773
00:37:58,043 --> 00:38:00,335
and it was all technical
and tricks with me,
774
00:38:00,418 --> 00:38:02,669
and people had to choose.
775
00:38:02,752 --> 00:38:04,460
- There was a contest
at Del Mar.
776
00:38:04,543 --> 00:38:09,377
The fans were like, you know,
"Hosoi, Hosoi, Hosoi!"
777
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:10,835
- Next up, Tony Hawk,
778
00:38:10,919 --> 00:38:12,502
riding for Powell-Peralta
and Tracker Trucks.
779
00:38:12,585 --> 00:38:13,877
Tony, whenever you're ready.
780
00:38:13,961 --> 00:38:15,460
[crowd booing]
781
00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:19,585
- Whenever I would go,
they would just be booing.
782
00:38:19,669 --> 00:38:21,627
- You know, at his home park
at Del Mar,
783
00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:25,252
I thought, you know,
the crowd was pretty rough.
784
00:38:25,335 --> 00:38:28,293
crowd: Christian! Christian!
Christian!
785
00:38:28,377 --> 00:38:30,794
Christian! Christian!
Christian!
786
00:38:30,877 --> 00:38:34,377
Christian! Christian!
Christian! Christian!
787
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:36,210
- These guys are just
getting mad at him,
788
00:38:36,293 --> 00:38:38,126
because they're
seeing him do tricks.
789
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:39,752
Like, they want to see
some older shit,
790
00:38:39,835 --> 00:38:41,210
a long lip slide
or something, like,
791
00:38:41,293 --> 00:38:42,919
and it's just not gonna happen.
792
00:38:43,002 --> 00:38:47,043
They were pissed, throwing
beer cans and whatever else.
793
00:38:47,126 --> 00:38:49,543
- I fell on one of the runs
near the end.
794
00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:52,335
And I fell near this beer can.
795
00:38:52,418 --> 00:38:54,335
Like, I almost slid into it.
796
00:38:54,418 --> 00:38:57,627
And I was just like, "Really?"
797
00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,168
And so I grabbed it,
and I went to throw it
798
00:39:00,252 --> 00:39:01,835
back at them,
and I was just like, "Am I--"
799
00:39:01,919 --> 00:39:04,460
"I can't--
I can't play this game.
800
00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:06,669
"I'm gonna lose no matter what.
801
00:39:06,752 --> 00:39:08,877
"I'm never gonna be seen
by these guys
802
00:39:08,961 --> 00:39:10,627
"as legitimate or cool.
803
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:13,794
And I just gotta suck it up
and do my own thing."
804
00:39:13,877 --> 00:39:15,085
[crowd booing]
805
00:39:15,168 --> 00:39:17,460
- 96.666.
806
00:39:17,543 --> 00:39:20,710
- I don't think
that people understand
807
00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:22,418
that when you're skateboarding,
808
00:39:22,502 --> 00:39:25,460
it becomes an expression
of who you are, your identity.
809
00:39:25,543 --> 00:39:28,627
How you are embraced
as a person
810
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:31,585
is who you are.
811
00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:36,085
That stuff is all on the line
during those contests.
812
00:39:36,168 --> 00:39:38,460
- All that noise,
I was just like,
813
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:39,627
"All right, I'm just gonna--
814
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:41,043
head down,
I'm gonna do the work."
815
00:39:41,126 --> 00:39:42,210
- And he came in,
816
00:39:42,293 --> 00:39:45,460
and he just took it out on 'em.
817
00:39:46,627 --> 00:39:49,168
He was just focused.
818
00:39:49,252 --> 00:39:52,126
[crowd booing]
819
00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:55,126
[Peter & The Test Tube Babies'
"Blown Out Again"]
820
00:39:55,210 --> 00:39:59,710
♪ ♪
821
00:39:59,794 --> 00:40:02,669
[crowd cheering]
822
00:40:02,752 --> 00:40:09,752
♪ ♪
823
00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,543
[crowd cheering]
824
00:40:22,627 --> 00:40:24,710
- ♪ I am here,
but where is she? ♪
825
00:40:24,794 --> 00:40:26,877
♪ We were supposed
to meet at 3:00 ♪
826
00:40:26,961 --> 00:40:29,210
♪ Now I'm soaking wet
from this pouring rain ♪
827
00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:31,710
♪ It looks like I've been
blown out again ♪
828
00:40:31,794 --> 00:40:33,835
♪ Although I try,
it's all in vain ♪
829
00:40:33,919 --> 00:40:36,043
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪
830
00:40:36,126 --> 00:40:38,627
♪ It's not my fault,
I'm not to blame ♪
831
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:40,543
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪
832
00:40:40,627 --> 00:40:42,710
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪
833
00:40:42,794 --> 00:40:49,669
♪ ♪
834
00:40:49,752 --> 00:40:52,752
[crowd cheering]
835
00:40:55,293 --> 00:40:57,377
- 93.000.
836
00:40:57,460 --> 00:40:58,669
Tony Hawk is the winner!
837
00:40:58,752 --> 00:41:01,794
[cheers and applause]
838
00:41:07,961 --> 00:41:10,418
- When I finally started
to have some success
839
00:41:10,502 --> 00:41:11,919
in competition,
840
00:41:12,002 --> 00:41:14,919
I was getting blasted
in the magazines.
841
00:41:15,002 --> 00:41:16,835
"Thrasher" would write
that there was favoritism
842
00:41:16,919 --> 00:41:17,835
in the competitions
843
00:41:17,919 --> 00:41:19,168
'cause my dad
was helping running it
844
00:41:19,252 --> 00:41:21,418
and the finals were
always at Del Mar
845
00:41:21,502 --> 00:41:22,418
and that's my local park,
846
00:41:22,502 --> 00:41:24,460
and so the whole thing was
just made for me.
847
00:41:24,543 --> 00:41:26,710
He's daddy's boy.
848
00:41:26,794 --> 00:41:29,126
- It was very easy
for all the skaters to think
849
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:31,502
that somehow Frank Hawk's
pulling the strings.
850
00:41:31,585 --> 00:41:34,252
Really easy to do that.
He couldn't.
851
00:41:34,335 --> 00:41:36,752
You know, all he did
was organize this thing.
852
00:41:36,835 --> 00:41:38,627
- Even I did it at some point,
you know?
853
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:41,543
I was like, "Wait a minute.
Your son's in the last heat.
854
00:41:41,627 --> 00:41:42,710
How come
I'm in the first heat?"
855
00:41:42,794 --> 00:41:45,126
- It was just hard.
It was hard being an outcast.
856
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:48,126
It was hard being a skater
857
00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:50,627
whose style no one appreciated.
858
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:54,293
And then my dad just added
to that formula,
859
00:41:54,377 --> 00:41:56,168
and it was just, like--
I was just ostracized.
860
00:41:56,252 --> 00:41:59,168
[somber music]
861
00:41:59,252 --> 00:42:05,877
♪ ♪
862
00:42:05,961 --> 00:42:09,085
I just felt that his presence
was too intrusive
863
00:42:09,168 --> 00:42:13,252
and was affecting me
and my relationships so much
864
00:42:13,335 --> 00:42:17,877
that there was no escape
from it unless he backed off.
865
00:42:19,335 --> 00:42:20,961
Finally I just told him,
you know,
866
00:42:21,043 --> 00:42:23,002
"I don't like it
when you're at the events.
867
00:42:23,085 --> 00:42:25,627
It's way harder for me."
868
00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:26,835
He didn't take it well.
869
00:42:26,919 --> 00:42:28,252
He wasn't--it wasn't--
870
00:42:28,335 --> 00:42:29,835
there was not gonna be
a compromise.
871
00:42:29,919 --> 00:42:32,002
His answer was basically,
872
00:42:32,085 --> 00:42:33,627
"Well, then I just won't--
I won't go.
873
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:34,794
"I just won't do these events.
874
00:42:34,877 --> 00:42:36,168
You just want me
not to be in there at all?"
875
00:42:36,252 --> 00:42:39,043
And I'm like, "Well..."
876
00:42:39,126 --> 00:42:42,168
Things got icy between us,
and at the next event,
877
00:42:42,252 --> 00:42:45,085
he purposely tried
to keep his distance.
878
00:42:45,168 --> 00:42:47,126
And I guess that's the best
I could hope for
879
00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:49,293
without him
quitting altogether.
880
00:42:49,377 --> 00:42:51,043
- Now, you're the father
of Tony Hawk.
881
00:42:51,126 --> 00:42:52,418
How does it feel
when you see your son
882
00:42:52,502 --> 00:42:53,710
go in there and compete?
883
00:42:53,794 --> 00:42:55,293
- Oh, I'm thrilled to death.
884
00:42:55,377 --> 00:42:57,961
I have to kind of force myself
to keep subdued
885
00:42:58,043 --> 00:43:00,502
so I don't let people think
I'm giving him an advantage
886
00:43:00,585 --> 00:43:01,752
in a contest or something.
887
00:43:01,835 --> 00:43:04,752
So when we get to a contest,
we're strangers to each other.
888
00:43:04,835 --> 00:43:06,710
But I'm very proud of him.
889
00:43:06,794 --> 00:43:09,877
♪ ♪
890
00:43:09,961 --> 00:43:12,794
- I think I was 15 or 16.
891
00:43:12,877 --> 00:43:14,835
My mom moved to Arizona
892
00:43:14,919 --> 00:43:18,710
to pursue her doctorate
in business education.
893
00:43:18,794 --> 00:43:20,752
And so she was gone.
894
00:43:22,085 --> 00:43:24,835
It definitely changed
the dynamic in the household.
895
00:43:26,043 --> 00:43:28,877
One day, he came in
and he just said,
896
00:43:28,961 --> 00:43:30,543
"Hey, Tony, I think
I'm having chest pains.
897
00:43:30,627 --> 00:43:32,919
"I think--you know,
I don't know,
898
00:43:33,002 --> 00:43:35,919
"but it feels like
something's wrong.
899
00:43:36,002 --> 00:43:38,710
I think we need
to call an ambulance."
900
00:43:38,794 --> 00:43:42,002
And I kind of freaked out,
'cause I thought,
901
00:43:42,085 --> 00:43:44,669
"I'm here alone with my dad."
902
00:43:44,752 --> 00:43:48,210
We never had any conversations
903
00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:50,961
that were deep or loving.
904
00:43:51,043 --> 00:43:52,919
And so I told him,
I just--you know,
905
00:43:53,002 --> 00:43:54,669
"I want you to know
that I'm thankful
906
00:43:54,752 --> 00:43:58,085
for everything you did for me,
and I love you."
907
00:43:58,168 --> 00:44:02,418
And he said, "I know you do."
908
00:44:02,502 --> 00:44:05,460
♪ ♪
909
00:44:05,543 --> 00:44:08,085
The hardest part
about that whole scenario
910
00:44:08,168 --> 00:44:10,418
was taking him to the hospital
911
00:44:10,502 --> 00:44:13,835
and then coming home.
912
00:44:13,919 --> 00:44:16,543
And I was truly alone.
913
00:44:18,085 --> 00:44:20,710
And I was--
and my mom was gone.
914
00:44:20,794 --> 00:44:24,085
And then I just didn't
really know what to do.
915
00:44:24,168 --> 00:44:26,877
♪ ♪
916
00:44:26,961 --> 00:44:32,335
- What ultimately happened is--
was a bypass.
917
00:44:32,418 --> 00:44:36,043
My dad changed
his habits a bit.
918
00:44:36,126 --> 00:44:37,293
You know, he was walking more.
919
00:44:37,377 --> 00:44:39,418
He was--changed his diet
a little bit.
920
00:44:39,502 --> 00:44:42,085
But then he just gradually
got back
921
00:44:42,168 --> 00:44:46,002
to the same kind of old Frank.
922
00:44:46,085 --> 00:44:47,502
- Did you all try
to talk to him
923
00:44:47,585 --> 00:44:49,794
and get him to be healthier
and...
924
00:44:49,877 --> 00:44:52,377
- No. I didn't.
925
00:44:52,460 --> 00:44:53,710
No.
926
00:44:57,002 --> 00:45:00,961
- Tony's training ground was
the Del Mar skateboard park.
927
00:45:01,043 --> 00:45:02,460
The pool was a vertical pool,
928
00:45:02,543 --> 00:45:04,919
but the left wall
wasn't quite so vertical.
929
00:45:05,002 --> 00:45:07,877
It was almost like
a beautiful transition,
930
00:45:07,961 --> 00:45:10,210
so it was a perfect place
to learn tricks.
931
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:12,210
And that seemed
to be the place
932
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:15,168
Tony did all of his
most difficult tricks.
933
00:45:15,252 --> 00:45:17,210
- That's where I skated
my best.
934
00:45:17,293 --> 00:45:18,710
I had it dialed.
I had it wired.
935
00:45:18,794 --> 00:45:20,293
And when I would go
to other parks,
936
00:45:20,377 --> 00:45:21,543
I was out of place.
937
00:45:21,627 --> 00:45:22,835
I didn't have confidence.
938
00:45:22,919 --> 00:45:25,335
I didn't know how to use
the transitions.
939
00:45:25,418 --> 00:45:28,335
[intense rock music]
940
00:45:28,418 --> 00:45:35,085
♪ ♪
941
00:45:39,585 --> 00:45:44,002
- Most of his adversaries
skated Upland,
942
00:45:44,085 --> 00:45:47,627
a really, really deep,
big, giant pool.
943
00:45:47,710 --> 00:45:49,002
- Upland was considered
944
00:45:49,085 --> 00:45:50,585
the gnarliest pool
at the time.
945
00:45:50,669 --> 00:45:52,585
Like, if you did well
in an Upland contest,
946
00:45:52,669 --> 00:45:54,460
you got the respect
of the skate industry
947
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:56,210
and the hard-core skaters.
948
00:45:56,293 --> 00:45:58,168
- That's a really
challenging pool,
949
00:45:58,252 --> 00:45:59,627
'cause it's a square pool
950
00:45:59,710 --> 00:46:02,085
and a round pool
and a radical hip.
951
00:46:02,168 --> 00:46:04,418
It's a really,
really tricky place.
952
00:46:04,502 --> 00:46:08,252
♪ ♪
953
00:46:08,335 --> 00:46:09,543
- It's just scary.
954
00:46:09,627 --> 00:46:14,252
♪ ♪
955
00:46:14,335 --> 00:46:16,669
If you're gonna ride Upland,
you got to go for it.
956
00:46:16,752 --> 00:46:19,377
You can't just phone it in.
You can't cruise it.
957
00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:21,377
You gotta put yourself
at risk.
958
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:27,002
♪ ♪
959
00:46:27,085 --> 00:46:28,961
[skateboard clattering]
960
00:46:29,043 --> 00:46:31,752
- Tony knew this contest
was coming up,
961
00:46:31,835 --> 00:46:34,168
and it was a huge contest.
962
00:46:34,252 --> 00:46:36,752
- I made it my mission
to get used to the pool,
963
00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:38,585
and I drove up there
every weekend.
964
00:46:38,669 --> 00:46:40,919
It was the first time
I truly worked
965
00:46:41,002 --> 00:46:43,085
at getting used
to different terrain
966
00:46:43,168 --> 00:46:44,710
to prove myself beyond
967
00:46:44,794 --> 00:46:46,752
being this one-trick pony
at Del Mar.
968
00:46:46,835 --> 00:46:51,835
♪ ♪
969
00:46:51,919 --> 00:46:53,543
- Tony, you're the big winner
from Del Mar.
970
00:46:53,627 --> 00:46:54,919
Do you think
you'll be able to do it?
971
00:46:55,002 --> 00:46:55,961
- I don't know.
972
00:46:56,043 --> 00:46:57,502
I'm having a pretty tough time
in this pool.
973
00:46:57,585 --> 00:46:59,377
- What makes this one
different from Del Mar?
974
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:00,669
- Well, it's got
a lot more vert,
975
00:47:00,752 --> 00:47:02,585
and it's a lot rougher
976
00:47:02,669 --> 00:47:05,043
and big coping,
so it's harder to ride.
977
00:47:05,126 --> 00:47:06,043
- Big coping.
978
00:47:06,126 --> 00:47:07,877
Who's your toughest
competition?
979
00:47:07,961 --> 00:47:09,585
- Shoot.
980
00:47:09,669 --> 00:47:11,543
I'd stay Stevie,
Lance, Christian.
981
00:47:11,627 --> 00:47:13,710
Psh, all those guys.
[chuckles]
982
00:47:13,794 --> 00:47:14,919
- Well, good luck
on your competition.
983
00:47:15,002 --> 00:47:16,002
- Thanks.
984
00:47:16,085 --> 00:47:17,210
[upbeat rock music]
985
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:18,460
- Let's hear it for Tony Hawk!
986
00:47:18,543 --> 00:47:21,460
[Devo's "Uncontrollable Urge"]
987
00:47:21,543 --> 00:47:28,168
♪ ♪
988
00:47:28,252 --> 00:47:31,293
- I had a run that was
sort of my safety run,
989
00:47:31,377 --> 00:47:33,835
where it was good, but didn't
have all the tricks.
990
00:47:33,919 --> 00:47:37,752
- The score is up.
81. 81.00.
991
00:47:37,835 --> 00:47:39,710
- Who's the person
to beat this time?
992
00:47:39,794 --> 00:47:43,002
- Uh, A lot of people.
Chris Miller.
993
00:47:43,085 --> 00:47:45,252
- Chris Miller
was the local favorite,
994
00:47:45,335 --> 00:47:47,252
the best skater in that pool.
995
00:47:47,335 --> 00:47:50,252
♪ ♪
996
00:47:50,335 --> 00:47:52,210
He hung up
and knocked himself out.
997
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:54,585
♪ ♪
998
00:47:54,669 --> 00:47:57,377
- ♪ Got an urge, got a surge,
and it's out of control ♪
999
00:47:57,460 --> 00:47:58,627
♪ ♪
1000
00:47:58,710 --> 00:48:01,377
- Score is up.
80.00.
1001
00:48:01,460 --> 00:48:02,669
♪ ♪
1002
00:48:02,752 --> 00:48:03,669
- ♪ Uncontrollable urge ♪
1003
00:48:03,752 --> 00:48:05,835
♪ I want to tell you
all about it ♪
1004
00:48:05,919 --> 00:48:08,335
- 81.0 for Stevie Caballero.
1005
00:48:08,418 --> 00:48:10,543
- ♪ Scream and shout ♪
1006
00:48:10,627 --> 00:48:12,669
- And we have Lance Mountain
on the way.
1007
00:48:12,752 --> 00:48:15,002
Score's 83.33.
1008
00:48:15,085 --> 00:48:17,710
Let's hear it.
Lance Mountain. 83.33.
1009
00:48:17,794 --> 00:48:20,669
- ♪ He said, "Yah,"
and I said, "Yeah ♪
1010
00:48:20,752 --> 00:48:21,877
♪ Yeah" ♪
1011
00:48:21,961 --> 00:48:23,335
♪ And I said, "Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah ♪
1012
00:48:23,418 --> 00:48:26,502
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" ♪
1013
00:48:26,585 --> 00:48:30,293
- On my second run, I landed
super low on a McTwist
1014
00:48:30,377 --> 00:48:32,961
and then ended up
kind of screwing up my speed.
1015
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:35,627
- Score 81.66.
1016
00:48:35,710 --> 00:48:37,794
That wraps up the second round.
1017
00:48:37,877 --> 00:48:40,210
- Came down to the last runs.
1018
00:48:40,293 --> 00:48:42,043
And then on my fourth run,
1019
00:48:42,126 --> 00:48:43,919
I did exactly
what I came there to do.
1020
00:48:44,002 --> 00:48:45,252
- This is Tony Hawk,
1021
00:48:45,335 --> 00:48:46,710
going down
for round number two.
1022
00:48:46,794 --> 00:48:48,752
Let's hear it.
Tony Hawk!
1023
00:48:48,835 --> 00:48:52,126
- ♪ Every night, I know
that she goes to Finos ♪
1024
00:48:52,210 --> 00:48:53,752
[Toy Dolls'
"She Goes to Finos"]
1025
00:48:53,835 --> 00:48:55,377
♪ And every night ♪
1026
00:48:55,460 --> 00:48:57,418
♪ I know that she sees him ♪
1027
00:48:57,502 --> 00:49:00,377
♪ ♪
1028
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:03,043
- The combinations
that he did were amazing.
1029
00:49:03,126 --> 00:49:04,335
Amazing.
1030
00:49:04,418 --> 00:49:06,710
- ♪ And every night,
it's all right ♪
1031
00:49:06,794 --> 00:49:08,293
- Skating the hardest parts
of the pool,
1032
00:49:08,377 --> 00:49:10,126
sliding around the corners.
1033
00:49:10,210 --> 00:49:16,335
♪ ♪
1034
00:49:16,418 --> 00:49:18,543
[cheers and applause]
1035
00:49:18,627 --> 00:49:22,043
♪ ♪
1036
00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:26,585
I felt so at ease and confident
1037
00:49:26,669 --> 00:49:29,085
that I was singing in my run
1038
00:49:29,168 --> 00:49:31,293
the song that was playing
over the loudspeaker.
1039
00:49:31,377 --> 00:49:33,126
"She Goes to Finos," Toy Dolls.
1040
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:36,543
- ♪ 'Cause she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪
1041
00:49:36,627 --> 00:49:38,543
♪ To Finos ♪
1042
00:49:38,627 --> 00:49:41,961
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪
1043
00:49:42,043 --> 00:49:43,919
♪ With him, oi ♪
1044
00:49:44,002 --> 00:49:47,377
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪
1045
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:49,377
♪ To Finos ♪
1046
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:53,168
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪
1047
00:49:53,252 --> 00:49:56,043
♪ ♪
1048
00:49:56,126 --> 00:49:58,043
- It was like Luke Skywalker
1049
00:49:58,126 --> 00:50:02,543
going in to take out
Darth Vader at the Death Star.
1050
00:50:02,627 --> 00:50:05,085
- Incredible.
1051
00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:09,168
Score 85.66.
85.66.
1052
00:50:09,252 --> 00:50:11,293
[speaking indistinctly]
1053
00:50:11,377 --> 00:50:14,835
- He won a contest
that nobody in skateboarding
1054
00:50:14,919 --> 00:50:18,710
ever expected him to win,
ever, under any circumstances.
1055
00:50:18,794 --> 00:50:21,085
- And that's when
a lot of people shut up
1056
00:50:21,168 --> 00:50:22,168
about my style,
1057
00:50:22,252 --> 00:50:25,627
about me only being good
at Del Mar.
1058
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:27,543
- To me, that's maybe
the biggest,
1059
00:50:27,627 --> 00:50:29,543
most important win of his life.
1060
00:50:29,627 --> 00:50:32,293
Once you can win there,
you can win anywhere.
1061
00:50:32,377 --> 00:50:34,085
[Stiff Little Fingers'
"Gotta Gettaway"]
1062
00:50:34,168 --> 00:50:37,418
That was the beginning
of his launch
1063
00:50:37,502 --> 00:50:38,710
to become Tony Hawk.
1064
00:50:38,794 --> 00:50:41,126
♪ ♪
1065
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:44,126
[cheers and applause]
1066
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:50,126
♪ ♪
1067
00:50:51,752 --> 00:50:54,252
- He grew taller
than all of us.
1068
00:50:54,335 --> 00:50:58,543
His tricks got bigger,
and his airs got higher.
1069
00:50:58,627 --> 00:51:03,502
♪ ♪
1070
00:51:03,585 --> 00:51:06,502
[cheers and applause]
1071
00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:08,627
- Do you have
a favorite skater?
1072
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:10,669
- Tony Hawk.
- Tony Hawk?
1073
00:51:10,752 --> 00:51:12,794
- Tony Hawk.
- [chuckling] Oh, very good.
1074
00:51:12,877 --> 00:51:16,043
- ♪ Oh, too many folk
to tell you what to do ♪
1075
00:51:16,126 --> 00:51:19,085
- Tony was obviously
gonna be a threat.
1076
00:51:19,168 --> 00:51:20,293
People saw that.
1077
00:51:20,377 --> 00:51:22,293
Even if it took five years
to get there.
1078
00:51:22,377 --> 00:51:23,627
- ♪ Have me here ♪
1079
00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:26,002
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪
1080
00:51:26,085 --> 00:51:27,835
♪ Hold me down, fasten ♪
1081
00:51:27,919 --> 00:51:29,377
- All of a sudden, he started
1082
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:31,210
just winning
all these contests.
1083
00:51:31,293 --> 00:51:33,418
Now he's got these tricks.
Now he's got this trick.
1084
00:51:33,502 --> 00:51:35,710
He has every trick
going on and more.
1085
00:51:35,794 --> 00:51:37,877
- Hawk!
Tony Hawk!
1086
00:51:37,961 --> 00:51:41,085
- ♪ Passing me by ♪
1087
00:51:41,168 --> 00:51:42,794
♪ ♪
1088
00:51:42,877 --> 00:51:45,252
- He was coming up
with a fantastic run,
1089
00:51:45,335 --> 00:51:47,418
and then all of a sudden,
he'd one-up himself.
1090
00:51:47,502 --> 00:51:48,752
- ♪ In my head ♪
1091
00:51:48,835 --> 00:51:51,002
♪ My father argued
and my mother begged ♪
1092
00:51:51,085 --> 00:51:52,835
- At every contest,
there'd be, like,
1093
00:51:52,919 --> 00:51:54,502
three new tricks.
1094
00:51:54,585 --> 00:51:57,710
He's spinning, he's varialing,
he's doing finger flips.
1095
00:51:57,794 --> 00:52:00,168
- ♪ They want
to have me here ♪
1096
00:52:00,252 --> 00:52:03,043
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪
1097
00:52:03,126 --> 00:52:06,710
- Here I am, I'm just trying
to go higher, farther, faster,
1098
00:52:06,794 --> 00:52:09,585
'cause I have to keep up
with Tony.
1099
00:52:09,669 --> 00:52:11,919
- ♪ Their words
ain't tugging me ♪
1100
00:52:12,002 --> 00:52:13,418
♪ Got to stretch them,
break them ♪
1101
00:52:13,502 --> 00:52:16,418
♪ Get myself free ♪
1102
00:52:16,502 --> 00:52:19,043
♪ They want to have me here ♪
1103
00:52:19,126 --> 00:52:21,377
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪
1104
00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:25,043
- Taking home $2,000
is Tony Hawk!
1105
00:52:25,126 --> 00:52:26,752
[cheers and applause]
1106
00:52:26,835 --> 00:52:29,085
- ♪ The cars
are all flashing me ♪
1107
00:52:29,168 --> 00:52:31,210
♪ Bright lights
are passing me ♪
1108
00:52:31,293 --> 00:52:36,543
♪ I feel life passing me by ♪
1109
00:52:36,627 --> 00:52:43,543
♪ ♪
1110
00:52:44,627 --> 00:52:46,085
- Tony's the youngest
skateboarder
1111
00:52:46,168 --> 00:52:47,168
on the Bones Brigade.
1112
00:52:47,252 --> 00:52:51,210
So suddenly,
he's beating his idols--
1113
00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:54,085
Caballero, McGill, Lance.
1114
00:52:54,168 --> 00:52:57,252
They used to kill him.
Now he's above 'em.
1115
00:52:57,335 --> 00:52:58,919
- ♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪
1116
00:52:59,002 --> 00:53:01,627
♪ Get away ♪
1117
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:03,794
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪
1118
00:53:03,877 --> 00:53:06,961
♪ Get away ♪
1119
00:53:07,043 --> 00:53:10,002
- First place
goes to Tony Hawk!
1120
00:53:10,085 --> 00:53:12,043
3,000 bucks!
1121
00:53:12,126 --> 00:53:14,043
[cheers and applause]
1122
00:53:14,126 --> 00:53:16,252
♪ ♪
1123
00:53:16,335 --> 00:53:17,669
- What's it gonna take to win?
1124
00:53:17,752 --> 00:53:19,126
You're gonna have to beat
Tony Hawk, you know.
1125
00:53:19,210 --> 00:53:21,543
He's number one right now.
1126
00:53:21,627 --> 00:53:23,585
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪
1127
00:53:23,669 --> 00:53:26,293
♪ Get away ♪
1128
00:53:26,377 --> 00:53:28,710
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪
1129
00:53:28,794 --> 00:53:31,919
♪ Get away ♪
1130
00:53:32,043 --> 00:53:35,710
[cheers and applause]
1131
00:53:41,585 --> 00:53:43,919
- He would go basically win--
1132
00:53:44,002 --> 00:53:45,126
I don't know
what the record was,
1133
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:46,377
but pretty much everything.
1134
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:48,002
And everybody'd be stoked.
1135
00:53:48,085 --> 00:53:49,502
And maybe he would be lit up
1136
00:53:49,585 --> 00:53:53,669
for long enough to take
the team photos or whatever.
1137
00:53:53,752 --> 00:53:55,961
But then you could immediately
see the wheels turning of,
1138
00:53:56,043 --> 00:53:59,293
"Yeah,
but I should have done this."
1139
00:53:59,377 --> 00:54:01,126
And he would go
right back to it.
1140
00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:06,126
- I was singularly focused
on skating
1141
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:08,126
and doing well at the events
1142
00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:11,085
because that was
the only road to success.
1143
00:54:11,168 --> 00:54:15,710
It probably affected
my emotional connections
1144
00:54:15,794 --> 00:54:18,377
because I couldn't think
of anything else.
1145
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:21,252
I was obligated to go
to all the competitions,
1146
00:54:21,335 --> 00:54:23,043
nonstop on the road.
1147
00:54:23,126 --> 00:54:25,919
I had a formula
where I'd create a routine,
1148
00:54:26,002 --> 00:54:28,002
I had these backup tricks
that I was gonna do later,
1149
00:54:28,085 --> 00:54:29,418
and then I just started
doing that,
1150
00:54:29,502 --> 00:54:31,877
and it was like
I was just a machine.
1151
00:54:31,961 --> 00:54:33,377
- You feeling
any excess pressure
1152
00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:34,752
now that you're in first place,
1153
00:54:34,835 --> 00:54:36,752
or do you think
that's the better place to be?
1154
00:54:36,835 --> 00:54:37,919
- Oh, I don't know.
1155
00:54:38,002 --> 00:54:41,543
I mean, I guess I feel really
happy that I did that run
1156
00:54:41,627 --> 00:54:43,502
and I'm in first with it,
but I don't know.
1157
00:54:43,585 --> 00:54:45,502
I'm just gonna do my best,
and if I do my best
1158
00:54:45,585 --> 00:54:48,335
and I don't even win,
that's okay with me.
1159
00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:52,418
It got to the point where
it was somewhat repetitive
1160
00:54:52,502 --> 00:54:56,585
and just methodical
1161
00:54:56,669 --> 00:54:58,961
and robotic,
1162
00:54:59,043 --> 00:55:00,961
where I came in
and it was like,
1163
00:55:01,043 --> 00:55:02,168
"I'm gonna have to do this.
1164
00:55:02,252 --> 00:55:04,085
"I'm gonna have to go
this much further,
1165
00:55:04,168 --> 00:55:05,293
"because now they're judging me
1166
00:55:05,377 --> 00:55:06,919
"on what they saw me do
last time.
1167
00:55:07,002 --> 00:55:08,752
So I gotta take it
one step further."
1168
00:55:08,835 --> 00:55:11,919
And I became a machine.
1169
00:55:12,002 --> 00:55:15,585
And it really did
suck the fun out of it.
1170
00:55:15,669 --> 00:55:17,543
Other skaters
would tell me, like,
1171
00:55:17,627 --> 00:55:18,961
while we're practicing,
1172
00:55:19,043 --> 00:55:20,752
"Man, I just want
to get second."
1173
00:55:20,835 --> 00:55:24,585
And I just took it
as I didn't have any peers.
1174
00:55:25,585 --> 00:55:27,168
It was just isolating.
It was a bummer.
1175
00:55:27,252 --> 00:55:28,377
I can't explain it.
1176
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:30,794
You know, the whole thing,
it's lonely at the top--it is.
1177
00:55:37,043 --> 00:55:41,502
- I think it's a quote
from Nietzsche's "Zarathustra."
1178
00:55:41,585 --> 00:55:42,961
"You make it up
to the top of a mountain,
1179
00:55:43,043 --> 00:55:44,669
and what's left for me
but lightning?"
1180
00:55:46,002 --> 00:55:48,919
[somber music]
1181
00:55:49,002 --> 00:55:50,126
♪ ♪
1182
00:55:50,210 --> 00:55:54,126
- With all of the things
that were coming to him,
1183
00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:55,794
his father being at contests
1184
00:55:55,877 --> 00:55:57,710
and the commotion
that his father causes
1185
00:55:57,794 --> 00:55:59,502
with all the other
skateboarders,
1186
00:55:59,585 --> 00:56:01,502
people blaming Tony
for winning
1187
00:56:01,585 --> 00:56:03,252
because his father's
setting it up,
1188
00:56:03,335 --> 00:56:05,252
people calling him
a clown skater
1189
00:56:05,335 --> 00:56:06,585
because of the tricks he does,
1190
00:56:06,669 --> 00:56:08,460
"people saying, "You don't
deserve to be doing this.
1191
00:56:08,543 --> 00:56:10,585
Christian should be winning,"
1192
00:56:10,669 --> 00:56:14,752
and at the same time,
achieving his dream.
1193
00:56:14,835 --> 00:56:17,002
He achieved his dream.
1194
00:56:17,085 --> 00:56:18,418
And he got up there
and he realized
1195
00:56:18,502 --> 00:56:20,752
how lonely it is.
1196
00:56:20,835 --> 00:56:23,627
- I felt like I was
losing myself,
1197
00:56:23,710 --> 00:56:25,710
losing my passion.
1198
00:56:25,794 --> 00:56:31,335
None of the money or fame
or success was worth that.
1199
00:56:31,418 --> 00:56:32,543
- Skating very well today.
1200
00:56:32,627 --> 00:56:36,335
- Um, not as well as I want to.
1201
00:56:36,418 --> 00:56:38,877
- The heat bothering you?
- Not so much that.
1202
00:56:38,961 --> 00:56:42,085
I'm just not really feeling
like skating right now.
1203
00:56:42,168 --> 00:56:43,168
- He just decided
1204
00:56:43,252 --> 00:56:45,460
that he didn't want
to compete anymore.
1205
00:56:45,543 --> 00:56:47,627
- I told my brother
how I was feeling.
1206
00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:48,794
He was really the only one
1207
00:56:48,877 --> 00:56:51,126
I felt like
I could confide in.
1208
00:56:51,210 --> 00:56:53,794
He said,
"You gotta tell Stacy."
1209
00:56:53,877 --> 00:56:57,377
- Tony was seriously
in a catatonic state
1210
00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:59,210
when he arrived at my house.
1211
00:56:59,293 --> 00:57:01,460
He sat there
just looking at me like...
1212
00:57:03,335 --> 00:57:07,585
- You didn't tell Stacy that
you're gonna quit anything.
1213
00:57:07,669 --> 00:57:09,585
Who would do that?
1214
00:57:09,669 --> 00:57:11,710
- Steve proceeded to tell me
1215
00:57:11,794 --> 00:57:15,543
that it had all just become
too much for Tony.
1216
00:57:15,627 --> 00:57:20,252
He wasn't enjoying being
a professional skateboarder.
1217
00:57:22,752 --> 00:57:25,210
I think that's as close
as he's ever gotten,
1218
00:57:25,293 --> 00:57:27,002
that I've seen,
1219
00:57:27,085 --> 00:57:29,627
to dealing with the pain
that's inside of him.
1220
00:57:29,710 --> 00:57:34,377
♪ ♪
1221
00:57:36,877 --> 00:57:41,002
- Driving home, there was
a sense of hopelessness.
1222
00:57:41,085 --> 00:57:45,002
And I didn't really know
what was gonna happen next.
1223
00:57:45,085 --> 00:57:47,335
Stacy told me
that Rodney Mullen
1224
00:57:47,418 --> 00:57:49,168
had the same conversation
with him
1225
00:57:49,252 --> 00:57:51,627
about a year prior
to me telling him that.
1226
00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:53,418
And Rodney
had stopped competing.
1227
00:57:53,502 --> 00:57:55,043
I called Rodney,
1228
00:57:55,126 --> 00:57:59,043
and Rodney unloaded everything.
1229
00:57:59,126 --> 00:58:00,293
He just said, "You know",
1230
00:58:00,377 --> 00:58:04,210
"I've come to appreciate
the skating more.
1231
00:58:04,293 --> 00:58:06,252
"I'm willing to take
more chances
1232
00:58:06,335 --> 00:58:10,961
and risk not winning,
and that has liberated me."
1233
00:58:11,043 --> 00:58:15,335
And he said,
"Maybe that would help you."
1234
00:58:15,418 --> 00:58:18,335
[gentle music]
1235
00:58:18,418 --> 00:58:25,460
♪ ♪
1236
00:58:41,418 --> 00:58:44,043
When I eventually
stopped competing,
1237
00:58:44,126 --> 00:58:47,085
I was like, "Oh, I have
all this freedom now."
1238
00:58:49,669 --> 00:58:52,543
"I'm not beholden
to earning points
1239
00:58:52,627 --> 00:58:54,502
and staying on all the time."
1240
00:58:57,043 --> 00:58:59,460
I had
a totally different approach
1241
00:58:59,543 --> 00:59:02,126
to what I was doing.
1242
00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:05,460
Started getting
much more creative.
1243
00:59:05,543 --> 00:59:08,418
- [sighs]
1244
00:59:09,877 --> 00:59:12,002
Detachment.
Freedom.
1245
00:59:12,085 --> 00:59:14,835
You can breathe.
1246
00:59:14,919 --> 00:59:17,669
We skate with our hearts.
1247
00:59:17,752 --> 00:59:22,460
And...it has its own feelings.
1248
00:59:22,543 --> 00:59:29,460
♪ ♪
1249
00:59:43,669 --> 00:59:45,168
- Both Tony and Rodney
1250
00:59:45,252 --> 00:59:49,710
talk about the difficulties
of competition.
1251
00:59:49,794 --> 00:59:53,377
But both of those guys
loved competing.
1252
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:56,043
They were both killers.
1253
00:59:56,126 --> 00:59:58,710
Not just competitors, killers.
1254
00:59:58,794 --> 01:00:00,085
They're not out to beat you.
1255
01:00:00,168 --> 01:00:02,377
They're out to make you afraid
to ever come to them
1256
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:03,835
and compete with them again.
1257
01:00:03,919 --> 01:00:07,377
♪ ♪
1258
01:00:07,460 --> 01:00:09,669
Tony may have had
a hard time with it,
1259
01:00:09,752 --> 01:00:12,627
but once he walked away
from competition,
1260
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:14,085
he couldn't live without it.
1261
01:00:14,168 --> 01:00:16,168
He had to get back in.
1262
01:00:16,252 --> 01:00:22,168
♪ ♪
1263
01:00:22,252 --> 01:00:24,252
- Eventually found my way
back to it
1264
01:00:24,335 --> 01:00:26,835
with a different attitude,
and I could still make it fun,
1265
01:00:26,919 --> 01:00:28,168
and I could still do it
for a living,
1266
01:00:28,252 --> 01:00:30,418
and that was it.
1267
01:00:30,502 --> 01:00:31,794
That was the turning point.
1268
01:00:31,877 --> 01:00:38,877
♪ ♪
1269
01:00:42,126 --> 01:00:43,752
- One time
when I lived with Tony,
1270
01:00:43,835 --> 01:00:45,126
it was garbage day,
and I came up,
1271
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:46,252
and he'd cleaned out
the garage.
1272
01:00:46,335 --> 01:00:48,043
And he was dragging
this trash can
1273
01:00:48,126 --> 01:00:50,919
down the driveway,
1274
01:00:51,002 --> 01:00:52,168
and there was
all these trophies
1275
01:00:52,252 --> 01:00:53,460
poking out of the top.
1276
01:00:53,543 --> 01:00:55,377
Like, he did not care.
1277
01:00:55,460 --> 01:00:57,377
He lost his bag
of X Games medals.
1278
01:00:57,460 --> 01:00:59,877
I mean, he's never, ever cared.
1279
01:00:59,961 --> 01:01:00,919
I've never seen him,
1280
01:01:01,002 --> 01:01:03,043
since I've known him
for 30 years,
1281
01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:04,377
to put any of the trophies up.
1282
01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:06,877
Other people will, but he's
never had a trophy room.
1283
01:01:06,961 --> 01:01:10,377
"That's just a symbol
of one point in time.
1284
01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:12,502
I can't get attached to that."
1285
01:01:12,585 --> 01:01:15,460
[The Replacements'
"Can't Hardly Wait"]
1286
01:01:15,543 --> 01:01:19,752
♪ ♪
1287
01:01:19,835 --> 01:01:23,669
- ♪ I'll write you a letter
tomorrow ♪
1288
01:01:23,752 --> 01:01:25,835
♪ ♪
1289
01:01:25,919 --> 01:01:30,293
♪ Tonight,
I can't hold a pen ♪
1290
01:01:30,377 --> 01:01:31,627
♪ ♪
1291
01:01:31,710 --> 01:01:34,543
- Video was
a whole new avenue.
1292
01:01:34,627 --> 01:01:36,585
It's not about competition.
1293
01:01:36,669 --> 01:01:39,752
That eventually outshined
all the contests.
1294
01:01:39,835 --> 01:01:43,585
- ♪ I promise not to blow
the address again ♪
1295
01:01:43,669 --> 01:01:45,585
- Kids are now seeing
how to do it.
1296
01:01:45,669 --> 01:01:47,168
When they'd look
at a magazine,
1297
01:01:47,252 --> 01:01:49,043
they'd see a maneuver,
but they didn't understand
1298
01:01:49,126 --> 01:01:50,585
how a kid got
from here to there
1299
01:01:50,669 --> 01:01:51,835
or there to here.
1300
01:01:51,919 --> 01:01:54,335
But when they saw the video,
they saw the whole thing.
1301
01:01:54,418 --> 01:01:56,168
So it completely
revolutionized
1302
01:01:56,252 --> 01:01:58,210
how kids consumed
skateboarding.
1303
01:01:58,293 --> 01:02:00,377
And it really helped
the sport grow.
1304
01:02:00,460 --> 01:02:03,293
♪ ♪
1305
01:02:03,377 --> 01:02:05,710
- ♪ Jesus rides ♪
1306
01:02:05,794 --> 01:02:08,585
- I was 12 years old
when I first got
1307
01:02:08,669 --> 01:02:10,377
a skateboard
and got into skateboarding.
1308
01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:12,669
And it was the boom
of the Bones Brigade,
1309
01:02:12,752 --> 01:02:13,961
and everybody
had a skateboard.
1310
01:02:14,043 --> 01:02:16,502
And immediately was attracted
1311
01:02:16,585 --> 01:02:20,168
to the fun of skateboarding
through Lance Mountain
1312
01:02:20,252 --> 01:02:23,627
and the tricks in skateboarding
through Tony Hawk.
1313
01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:25,293
- ♪ Ashtray floors ♪
1314
01:02:25,377 --> 01:02:27,794
♪ Dirty clothes
and filthy jokes ♪
1315
01:02:27,877 --> 01:02:29,627
- Oh, those videos
got passed around.
1316
01:02:29,710 --> 01:02:31,961
I mean, people tell me
that they would rent it
1317
01:02:32,043 --> 01:02:33,669
from the shop,
give it to their friend.
1318
01:02:33,752 --> 01:02:36,043
It would break.
They'd tape it back together.
1319
01:02:36,126 --> 01:02:37,669
- That was
the greatest thing ever.
1320
01:02:37,752 --> 01:02:41,252
Like, I just would watch it
over and over and over.
1321
01:02:41,335 --> 01:02:43,377
"Like, "There's gonna be
another one?
1322
01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:45,877
What are they gonna do?
How funny is Lance gonna be?"
1323
01:02:45,961 --> 01:02:48,252
Like, you know, "What are
the new tricks like?"
1324
01:02:48,335 --> 01:02:50,502
Stacy was onto something, man.
1325
01:02:50,585 --> 01:02:52,919
Like, there's still
nothing cooler
1326
01:02:53,002 --> 01:02:54,585
than Bones Brigade videos.
1327
01:02:54,669 --> 01:02:57,543
[droning rock music]
1328
01:02:57,627 --> 01:03:04,627
♪ ♪
1329
01:03:24,252 --> 01:03:25,669
- Animal Chin.
Have you heard of 'em?
1330
01:03:25,752 --> 01:03:27,335
- If you look too hard
for Animal Chin,
1331
01:03:27,418 --> 01:03:28,794
you're never gonna find 'em.
1332
01:03:28,877 --> 01:03:33,335
♪ ♪
1333
01:03:33,418 --> 01:03:35,168
- Heard about this ramp.
1334
01:03:35,252 --> 01:03:37,293
It's in this field
between two junkyards.
1335
01:03:37,377 --> 01:03:42,418
♪ ♪
1336
01:03:42,502 --> 01:03:44,585
- You know, Stacy would have
me, Mike,
1337
01:03:44,669 --> 01:03:46,877
and Lance do our parts,
1338
01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:49,710
and then it was Tony's turn.
1339
01:03:49,794 --> 01:03:55,043
♪ ♪
1340
01:03:55,126 --> 01:03:56,502
- What the hell was that?
1341
01:03:56,585 --> 01:03:59,335
♪ ♪
1342
01:03:59,418 --> 01:04:03,126
- Oh!
- Insane.
1343
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:04,627
- I'm like,
"Man, this guy's got
1344
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:06,961
a bag of tricks
that doesn't stop."
1345
01:04:07,043 --> 01:04:13,585
♪ ♪
1346
01:04:13,669 --> 01:04:16,085
540s were hard enough
grabbing,
1347
01:04:16,168 --> 01:04:19,752
but to do it
without grabbing your board...
1348
01:04:19,835 --> 01:04:23,502
- People thought it was
an impossible trick to do.
1349
01:04:23,585 --> 01:04:25,502
When people saw it,
they were like,
1350
01:04:25,585 --> 01:04:27,126
"That's not real."
1351
01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:34,168
♪ ♪
1352
01:04:40,335 --> 01:04:43,502
- Tony's becoming a superstar
in skateboarding,
1353
01:04:43,585 --> 01:04:47,335
and as a result, we sold
more of his board models
1354
01:04:47,418 --> 01:04:49,002
pretty much every month
1355
01:04:49,085 --> 01:04:50,877
more than anybody else
on the team.
1356
01:04:50,961 --> 01:04:54,502
We could've sold even probably
more than we sold of Tony's.
1357
01:04:54,585 --> 01:04:55,752
- You just didn't make enough.
1358
01:04:55,835 --> 01:04:57,543
- We couldn't make enough.
1359
01:04:57,627 --> 01:04:59,835
- By the time that I was 17,
1360
01:04:59,919 --> 01:05:02,502
I was making
at least six figures
1361
01:05:02,585 --> 01:05:03,794
just from skateboards.
1362
01:05:03,877 --> 01:05:05,126
You get very jaded
1363
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:06,543
when that kind of money
is coming in.
1364
01:05:06,627 --> 01:05:10,252
And also, I'm not trying
to be responsible with it.
1365
01:05:10,335 --> 01:05:12,460
I'm not saving for the future,
1366
01:05:12,543 --> 01:05:14,460
nor am I saving for taxes.
1367
01:05:14,543 --> 01:05:17,252
And so my dad was the one
1368
01:05:17,335 --> 01:05:18,961
who really guided me
through that
1369
01:05:19,043 --> 01:05:22,377
and was the one
who convinced me to buy a house
1370
01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:24,877
when I was still
in high school.
1371
01:05:24,961 --> 01:05:27,835
[XTC's
"Roads Girdle the Globe"]
1372
01:05:27,919 --> 01:05:34,877
♪ ♪
1373
01:05:41,085 --> 01:05:43,835
- Tony and his dad built
all these beautiful ramps.
1374
01:05:43,919 --> 01:05:45,835
I mean,
they were just unbelievable.
1375
01:05:45,919 --> 01:05:47,794
His dad was so dedicated.
1376
01:05:47,877 --> 01:05:50,502
- The winningest vertical
skateboard rider in history
1377
01:05:50,585 --> 01:05:52,168
now making
a very comfortable living
1378
01:05:52,252 --> 01:05:53,627
as a pro athlete.
1379
01:05:53,710 --> 01:05:56,919
- In this house, they live,
breathe, sleep, talk,
1380
01:05:57,002 --> 01:05:59,168
and eat skateboarding.
1381
01:05:59,252 --> 01:06:01,835
And what you're about to see
are the rewards for a guy
1382
01:06:01,919 --> 01:06:04,043
who's become top of his sport.
1383
01:06:04,126 --> 01:06:05,961
[upbeat music]
1384
01:06:06,043 --> 01:06:08,085
- On Sunday,
I'm signing autographs.
1385
01:06:08,168 --> 01:06:10,752
I am flying home
with an oversized check,
1386
01:06:10,835 --> 01:06:12,418
says $10,000.
1387
01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:15,252
I had to put it up
in the first-class closet.
1388
01:06:15,335 --> 01:06:16,794
And then I go home,
and I gotta wake up
1389
01:06:16,877 --> 01:06:20,585
at 7:00 a.m. next day
and get to school.
1390
01:06:20,669 --> 01:06:23,585
[New Order's "Age of Consent"]
1391
01:06:23,669 --> 01:06:30,460
♪ ♪
1392
01:06:31,293 --> 01:06:34,877
- When we started
traveling around the world,
1393
01:06:34,961 --> 01:06:36,877
we started noticing
there was a lot of people
1394
01:06:36,961 --> 01:06:38,043
showing up to our demos,
1395
01:06:38,126 --> 01:06:40,418
and we were getting
a lot of attention.
1396
01:06:42,126 --> 01:06:45,585
- We're on the road,
and we're in our teens.
1397
01:06:45,669 --> 01:06:48,961
New city every night,
trying to meet girls.
1398
01:06:49,043 --> 01:06:54,794
- ♪ Won't you please
let me go? ♪
1399
01:06:54,877 --> 01:06:56,752
♪ These words lie inside ♪
1400
01:06:56,835 --> 01:07:01,835
- When it got big, it was
rock star time and girl time.
1401
01:07:01,919 --> 01:07:04,377
Look at the people
who didn't have ponytails.
1402
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:06,502
I didn't have a ponytail.
They all did.
1403
01:07:06,585 --> 01:07:08,585
That was a pure sign
that you're stoked,
1404
01:07:08,669 --> 01:07:09,919
that you're a rock star,
1405
01:07:10,002 --> 01:07:11,460
and you're gonna
get some girls.
1406
01:07:11,543 --> 01:07:18,502
♪ ♪
1407
01:07:27,752 --> 01:07:29,919
- It seemed like money
was just raining down,
1408
01:07:30,002 --> 01:07:31,919
and some of the guys
got carried away.
1409
01:07:32,002 --> 01:07:34,835
They were spending crazy.
1410
01:07:34,919 --> 01:07:38,126
At one point,
Powell sent us credit cards.
1411
01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:40,543
We had no idea
how credit cards worked,
1412
01:07:40,627 --> 01:07:42,543
so we just thought
that we could spend money
1413
01:07:42,627 --> 01:07:45,293
and that we wouldn't
get the bill.
1414
01:07:45,377 --> 01:07:47,835
We were buying cameras,
video games.
1415
01:07:47,919 --> 01:07:51,126
I think I bought
a pinball machine.
1416
01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:53,961
I'd be in Japan,
I would just buy boom boxes,
1417
01:07:54,043 --> 01:07:58,168
headphones, and at one point,
I bought a tanning bed.
1418
01:07:58,252 --> 01:08:02,168
- ♪ Do you find this happens
all the time? ♪
1419
01:08:02,252 --> 01:08:03,293
♪ ♪
1420
01:08:03,377 --> 01:08:07,418
- From '87 to '89,
1421
01:08:07,502 --> 01:08:09,543
it was salad days.
1422
01:08:09,627 --> 01:08:12,043
It was the heyday.
It was crazy.
1423
01:08:12,126 --> 01:08:17,710
1989, I went on tour
in the U.S. for a month.
1424
01:08:17,794 --> 01:08:21,210
Every demo was
thousands of people.
1425
01:08:21,293 --> 01:08:23,710
And then we go to Europe
for six weeks.
1426
01:08:23,794 --> 01:08:25,126
Every crowd was huge.
1427
01:08:25,210 --> 01:08:27,418
We did a demo
at Tivoli Gardens.
1428
01:08:27,502 --> 01:08:29,627
The entire amusement park
stopped what they were doing
1429
01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:31,752
to watch us skate.
1430
01:08:31,835 --> 01:08:34,919
And then we'd go to Australia,
in Sydney.
1431
01:08:35,002 --> 01:08:37,418
Vert ramp right
in the middle of the city.
1432
01:08:37,502 --> 01:08:39,961
People were lining
the rooftops
1433
01:08:40,043 --> 01:08:42,168
because there was no more room
to watch us.
1434
01:08:42,252 --> 01:08:43,669
[cheers and applause]
1435
01:08:43,752 --> 01:08:45,126
- He was really doing well.
1436
01:08:45,210 --> 01:08:47,877
And I was really happy for him.
1437
01:08:47,961 --> 01:08:51,293
And it gave my parents
such bragging rights
1438
01:08:51,377 --> 01:08:52,502
that they couldn't--
1439
01:08:52,585 --> 01:08:55,293
they would stop total strangers
at the airport and say,
1440
01:08:55,377 --> 01:08:58,585
"My son is Tony Hawk.
That's no lie."
1441
01:08:58,669 --> 01:09:01,460
- So life with the alien
is good, huh?
1442
01:09:01,543 --> 01:09:03,418
- So far.
So far, so good.
1443
01:09:03,502 --> 01:09:06,085
- Well, we all wish you
many luck and happiness, and--
1444
01:09:06,168 --> 01:09:09,126
- I was 22. Cindy was 24.
1445
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:10,919
We were living together.
1446
01:09:11,002 --> 01:09:14,877
We decided the next stage
would be to get married.
1447
01:09:14,961 --> 01:09:17,043
Suddenly, I'm married,
1448
01:09:17,126 --> 01:09:19,877
I have a kid on the way,
I have two mortgages,
1449
01:09:19,961 --> 01:09:22,835
and I was just thrust
into adulthood.
1450
01:09:22,919 --> 01:09:25,418
And little did I know
1451
01:09:25,502 --> 01:09:29,210
that that income
wasn't gonna last.
1452
01:09:29,293 --> 01:09:32,627
- Skateboarding is cyclical.
It's a cyclical business.
1453
01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:37,293
It was big from '73 to '79.
1454
01:09:37,377 --> 01:09:41,543
And then from 1980 to '84,
it dipped way down,
1455
01:09:41,627 --> 01:09:43,460
almost disappeared.
1456
01:09:43,543 --> 01:09:45,502
'85, it starts to climb again,
1457
01:09:45,585 --> 01:09:48,377
and it goes all the way up
until 1990,
1458
01:09:48,460 --> 01:09:51,293
and then it dips again,
and it dips radically.
1459
01:09:51,377 --> 01:09:53,252
And when it did,
1460
01:09:53,335 --> 01:09:56,126
a lot of companies
went out of business.
1461
01:09:56,210 --> 01:09:58,293
- I remember Stacy telling me,
"It's getting really hard
1462
01:09:58,377 --> 01:10:01,418
to justify any expenses that
we usually put out there."
1463
01:10:01,502 --> 01:10:03,627
And I said,
"Well, what does that mean?"
1464
01:10:03,710 --> 01:10:06,418
And he said, "Well, I think
you'll be the last to feel it,
1465
01:10:06,502 --> 01:10:08,919
but it's coming."
1466
01:10:09,002 --> 01:10:11,961
[somber music]
1467
01:10:12,043 --> 01:10:19,085
♪ ♪
1468
01:10:27,585 --> 01:10:29,502
Skate magazines were
going away.
1469
01:10:29,585 --> 01:10:32,543
Skate brands
were barely surviving.
1470
01:10:32,627 --> 01:10:34,502
♪ ♪
1471
01:10:34,585 --> 01:10:36,210
The skate parks closing down
1472
01:10:36,293 --> 01:10:38,085
was the last nail
in the coffin.
1473
01:10:38,168 --> 01:10:41,877
♪ ♪
1474
01:10:41,961 --> 01:10:44,252
- The early '90s were
the dark years.
1475
01:10:44,335 --> 01:10:47,002
It was tough.
1476
01:10:47,085 --> 01:10:48,794
Vertical skateboarding
was dead.
1477
01:10:48,877 --> 01:10:50,961
♪ ♪
1478
01:10:51,043 --> 01:10:53,377
- I remember
some of the last contests,
1479
01:10:53,460 --> 01:10:54,627
and then all of a sudden,
1480
01:10:54,710 --> 01:10:56,835
there just was
no more contests.
1481
01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:59,168
♪ ♪
1482
01:10:59,252 --> 01:11:01,418
It was like a rude awakening
for all of us.
1483
01:11:01,502 --> 01:11:05,043
♪ ♪
1484
01:11:05,126 --> 01:11:07,377
- '91 was sort of the end
1485
01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:09,710
of the Bones Brigade era
as I knew it.
1486
01:11:09,794 --> 01:11:11,585
We went to go talk to Stacy,
1487
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:14,085
and he said,
"You guys, I already left."
1488
01:11:14,168 --> 01:11:16,502
- There was kind of
this distance thing
1489
01:11:16,585 --> 01:11:18,752
between all of us
during those years.
1490
01:11:18,835 --> 01:11:20,877
We weren't all together
with Stacy,
1491
01:11:20,961 --> 01:11:22,627
and we weren't going
to contests,
1492
01:11:22,710 --> 01:11:24,835
and we weren't--
there was nothing.
1493
01:11:24,919 --> 01:11:27,919
"All of us were thinking,
you know, "Is this it?
1494
01:11:28,002 --> 01:11:29,877
What we love to do
is just nothing?"
1495
01:11:29,961 --> 01:11:32,669
You know, we just came
from touring around the world.
1496
01:11:32,752 --> 01:11:35,335
We went to George Harrison's
house, for Pete's sake.
1497
01:11:35,418 --> 01:11:39,961
That was
an intensely tough time
1498
01:11:40,043 --> 01:11:42,752
for most of us.
1499
01:11:42,835 --> 01:11:44,919
- I started Birdhouse in '92.
1500
01:11:45,002 --> 01:11:46,752
I had high hopes
that it was going
1501
01:11:46,835 --> 01:11:48,752
to at least be profitable
within a year or so,
1502
01:11:48,835 --> 01:11:50,126
and it just wasn't.
1503
01:11:51,168 --> 01:11:52,710
And we were scraping by,
1504
01:11:52,794 --> 01:11:55,877
and there was--
there was not a bright future.
1505
01:11:55,961 --> 01:11:58,669
Riley, point to Mommy.
1506
01:11:58,752 --> 01:12:01,543
- Mommy.
- Yeah.
1507
01:12:01,627 --> 01:12:04,168
Where's Daddy?
1508
01:12:04,252 --> 01:12:06,210
- Cindy was becoming
the breadwinner
1509
01:12:06,293 --> 01:12:07,418
being a manicurist.
1510
01:12:07,502 --> 01:12:08,877
[skateboard wheels rumbling]
1511
01:12:08,961 --> 01:12:11,961
Our relationship
was rocky at best.
1512
01:12:12,043 --> 01:12:14,126
People she works with,
it's just like,
1513
01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:16,168
"He's still trying
to skateboard?
1514
01:12:16,252 --> 01:12:18,126
"Are you fucking serious?
1515
01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:19,794
Like, grow up. Get a job."
1516
01:12:21,252 --> 01:12:24,252
I started taking every odd job
I could.
1517
01:12:24,335 --> 01:12:28,794
I bought a video editing
system on consignment.
1518
01:12:28,877 --> 01:12:29,961
I couldn't even afford it.
1519
01:12:30,043 --> 01:12:33,126
I borrowed $5,000
from my parents to buy it.
1520
01:12:33,210 --> 01:12:35,669
- He's chugging this OJ.
1521
01:12:35,752 --> 01:12:37,210
When I moved in with Tony,
1522
01:12:37,293 --> 01:12:39,794
we were both super,
super broke.
1523
01:12:39,877 --> 01:12:42,377
But I think we were like,
"We'll just keep, you know,
1524
01:12:42,460 --> 01:12:45,460
"adjusting our lifestyle
lower and lower
1525
01:12:45,543 --> 01:12:47,418
until we get
to that crisis point."
1526
01:12:47,502 --> 01:12:50,085
- We had a water bill
at the time
1527
01:12:50,168 --> 01:12:53,460
that I had to go
down to the city
1528
01:12:53,543 --> 01:12:55,460
and ask to make payments on.
1529
01:12:55,543 --> 01:12:59,085
And they allowed me
to pay it off over six months.
1530
01:12:59,168 --> 01:13:02,210
I would look around
and it'd be like...
1531
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:03,627
you know, there's a pool
1532
01:13:03,710 --> 01:13:07,293
and there's a propane tank
that I got to pay to fill,
1533
01:13:07,377 --> 01:13:08,669
and then there's
this huge ramp
1534
01:13:08,752 --> 01:13:10,335
that was
starting to fall apart
1535
01:13:10,418 --> 01:13:12,377
that I couldn't afford to fix.
1536
01:13:12,460 --> 01:13:14,210
And that's
when reality sunk in.
1537
01:13:14,293 --> 01:13:17,585
[tense music]
1538
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:19,377
I sold the house.
1539
01:13:19,460 --> 01:13:22,794
I had to tear down
this monstrous ramp.
1540
01:13:22,877 --> 01:13:25,919
Pulling out screws,
pulling off plies,
1541
01:13:26,002 --> 01:13:30,293
cutting chunks out of it
and kicking them over the side.
1542
01:13:30,377 --> 01:13:31,919
And to what end?
1543
01:13:32,002 --> 01:13:34,794
♪ ♪
1544
01:13:34,877 --> 01:13:38,085
You're just dismantling
your career until it's gone.
1545
01:13:38,168 --> 01:13:44,627
♪ ♪
1546
01:13:44,710 --> 01:13:47,085
- How did you handle stress
back then?
1547
01:13:48,794 --> 01:13:50,168
- I don't even--
1548
01:13:50,252 --> 01:13:51,710
how did I handle stress
back then?
1549
01:13:51,794 --> 01:13:53,919
I think that I would go skate.
1550
01:13:56,377 --> 01:13:57,752
I mean, that was it.
1551
01:13:57,835 --> 01:14:00,210
That's been my--
[clears throat]
1552
01:14:00,293 --> 01:14:02,252
That's been my escape, always.
1553
01:14:02,335 --> 01:14:05,210
But it was meager.
1554
01:14:05,293 --> 01:14:07,043
And it wasn't
what it used to be.
1555
01:14:07,126 --> 01:14:08,961
So it was like,
1556
01:14:09,043 --> 01:14:10,335
"Why are you spending
all your energy?
1557
01:14:10,418 --> 01:14:11,877
Why are you killing yourself
out there?"
1558
01:14:11,961 --> 01:14:14,335
[Pavement's "Here"]
1559
01:14:14,418 --> 01:14:17,835
- ♪ I was dressed
for success ♪
1560
01:14:17,919 --> 01:14:19,335
♪ ♪
1561
01:14:19,418 --> 01:14:24,460
♪ But success,
it never comes ♪
1562
01:14:24,543 --> 01:14:29,502
♪ And I'm the only one
who laughs ♪
1563
01:14:29,585 --> 01:14:31,418
- I hired him to help me
with a little video
1564
01:14:31,502 --> 01:14:34,126
for the shop or something
that I was trying to do.
1565
01:14:34,210 --> 01:14:36,460
He was, you know,
scrambling around,
1566
01:14:36,543 --> 01:14:39,752
but he still
pushed himself skating.
1567
01:14:39,835 --> 01:14:41,085
♪ ♪
1568
01:14:41,168 --> 01:14:45,252
- ♪ But they're not as bad
as this ♪
1569
01:14:45,335 --> 01:14:50,377
- I never considered
quitting skating as an option.
1570
01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:51,919
I was always gonna
find time to skate.
1571
01:14:52,002 --> 01:14:55,418
- ♪ We'll be waiting,
waiting where ♪
1572
01:14:57,335 --> 01:14:58,585
- Yeah!
1573
01:14:58,669 --> 01:15:01,377
- ♪ Everything's ending here ♪
1574
01:15:04,418 --> 01:15:06,627
- [laughs]
1575
01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:09,460
I don't think I could estimate
how many 540s I've done.
1576
01:15:09,543 --> 01:15:10,961
It's just--
1577
01:15:11,043 --> 01:15:12,669
- Like, over...
1578
01:15:12,752 --> 01:15:16,543
- 10,000.
For sure. I--
1579
01:15:16,627 --> 01:15:19,794
let's just say, for instance,
300 in a summer.
1580
01:15:19,877 --> 01:15:20,835
[laughs]
1581
01:15:22,418 --> 01:15:24,502
- 400, 500 a year. Yeah.
1582
01:15:24,585 --> 01:15:28,210
I mean, I was--like,
thousands, tens of thousands.
1583
01:15:28,293 --> 01:15:30,002
When people say you put in
your 10,000 hours,
1584
01:15:30,085 --> 01:15:31,752
I put in my 10,000 McTwists.
1585
01:15:31,835 --> 01:15:33,877
[laughs]
1586
01:15:37,085 --> 01:15:38,418
- [laughs]
1587
01:15:38,502 --> 01:15:41,418
[suspenseful music]
1588
01:15:41,502 --> 01:15:48,543
♪ ♪
1589
01:16:08,210 --> 01:16:10,752
I first thought
about the possibility of 900s
1590
01:16:10,835 --> 01:16:13,502
after learning 720s in 1985.
1591
01:16:13,585 --> 01:16:15,252
♪ ♪
1592
01:16:15,335 --> 01:16:16,961
I didn't actually have
the nerve to try it
1593
01:16:17,043 --> 01:16:20,168
until 1987
at a skate camp in France.
1594
01:16:20,252 --> 01:16:22,126
♪ ♪
1595
01:16:22,210 --> 01:16:24,794
I ended up trying it
a few times.
1596
01:16:24,877 --> 01:16:28,043
I didn't understand
where I was in the air
1597
01:16:28,126 --> 01:16:32,043
and ended up landing
on my back twice.
1598
01:16:32,126 --> 01:16:36,002
I wasn't ready to commit
to that spin.
1599
01:16:36,085 --> 01:16:37,710
- We had a lot
of other skaters
1600
01:16:37,794 --> 01:16:39,002
chasing the 900,
1601
01:16:39,085 --> 01:16:41,418
and just because it had been
going on for so long,
1602
01:16:41,502 --> 01:16:42,543
which no other trick had,
1603
01:16:42,627 --> 01:16:45,752
it kind of got some, like,
holy grail aspect to it
1604
01:16:45,835 --> 01:16:48,043
that I've never seen
any other trick
1605
01:16:48,126 --> 01:16:49,919
treated like that
with the skate community.
1606
01:16:50,002 --> 01:16:54,710
♪ ♪
1607
01:16:54,794 --> 01:16:59,502
It became a trick that
a lot of people are trying.
1608
01:16:59,585 --> 01:17:01,252
Everyone kept getting
a little close.
1609
01:17:01,335 --> 01:17:02,335
Like, they could spin,
1610
01:17:02,418 --> 01:17:03,835
but then they'd land
and keep whipping out.
1611
01:17:03,919 --> 01:17:06,043
There was always--
you would be close enough
1612
01:17:06,126 --> 01:17:07,210
to kind of taste it,
1613
01:17:07,293 --> 01:17:09,002
but there'd be one--
something missing
1614
01:17:09,085 --> 01:17:12,585
that would make it totally
almost impossible to land.
1615
01:17:12,669 --> 01:17:16,085
♪ ♪
1616
01:17:16,168 --> 01:17:19,585
- There were a couple times
in my pursuit of doing a 900
1617
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:23,085
that I really was
done with it.
1618
01:17:23,168 --> 01:17:26,252
The first time I tried
to really make one,
1619
01:17:26,335 --> 01:17:28,752
I was leaning forward too far,
and I broke my rib
1620
01:17:28,835 --> 01:17:31,752
when I--like, I just fell
into the flat bottom.
1621
01:17:31,835 --> 01:17:34,085
[thud echoes]
1622
01:17:34,168 --> 01:17:36,877
That was at a time
when I wasn't really making
1623
01:17:36,961 --> 01:17:39,085
a good living skating.
1624
01:17:39,168 --> 01:17:41,543
I'll never forget that day,
because I was trying it--
1625
01:17:41,627 --> 01:17:44,919
my son Riley,
he was in kindergarten.
1626
01:17:45,002 --> 01:17:47,377
I was late to pick him up
to kindergarten
1627
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:49,585
'cause I was stuck trying
this trick on the ramp.
1628
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:51,669
I broke my rib trying it,
1629
01:17:51,752 --> 01:17:53,669
but I still had to get there
to pick him up.
1630
01:17:53,752 --> 01:17:55,377
♪ ♪
1631
01:17:55,460 --> 01:17:57,752
It was a moment in life
where it was like,
1632
01:17:57,835 --> 01:17:59,835
"What am I doing?"
1633
01:17:59,919 --> 01:18:06,877
♪ ♪
1634
01:18:06,961 --> 01:18:08,752
"I just can't do it."
1635
01:18:08,835 --> 01:18:15,752
♪ ♪
1636
01:18:17,585 --> 01:18:20,252
- They'd been trying it
for so long, right?
1637
01:18:20,335 --> 01:18:23,752
I think it was almost 12 years.
1638
01:18:23,835 --> 01:18:26,085
- You ever not committed
to a landing on a trick
1639
01:18:26,168 --> 01:18:27,502
before in your life?
1640
01:18:29,418 --> 01:18:32,043
- That's a good question.
1641
01:18:32,126 --> 01:18:36,669
I had never gotten so close
to a trick and given up on it.
1642
01:18:36,752 --> 01:18:38,168
Never.
1643
01:18:38,252 --> 01:18:40,335
Someone's got to do this.
1644
01:18:40,418 --> 01:18:42,543
Someone's got to break
through this boundary.
1645
01:18:42,627 --> 01:18:45,543
[Buzzcocks'
"Why Can't I Touch It?"]
1646
01:18:45,627 --> 01:18:52,585
♪ ♪
1647
01:19:04,335 --> 01:19:07,168
- ♪ Well, it seems so real ♪
1648
01:19:07,252 --> 01:19:09,669
♪ I can see it ♪
1649
01:19:09,752 --> 01:19:12,794
♪ And it seems so real ♪
1650
01:19:12,877 --> 01:19:15,377
♪ I can feel it ♪
1651
01:19:15,460 --> 01:19:18,585
♪ And it seems so real ♪
1652
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:21,043
♪ I can taste it ♪
1653
01:19:21,126 --> 01:19:24,377
♪ And it seems so real ♪
1654
01:19:24,460 --> 01:19:27,043
♪ I can hear it ♪
1655
01:19:27,126 --> 01:19:32,210
♪ So why ♪
1656
01:19:32,293 --> 01:19:34,877
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪
1657
01:19:34,961 --> 01:19:38,168
♪ ♪
1658
01:19:38,252 --> 01:19:43,377
♪ So why ♪
1659
01:19:43,460 --> 01:19:45,710
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪
1660
01:19:45,794 --> 01:19:49,126
♪ ♪
1661
01:19:49,210 --> 01:19:50,919
- When he's going
after a trick,
1662
01:19:51,002 --> 01:19:52,669
you can watch him
get closer and closer,
1663
01:19:52,752 --> 01:19:55,002
'cause he's making little
adjustments in his head.
1664
01:19:55,085 --> 01:19:57,710
- ♪ Then it looks so real ♪
1665
01:19:57,794 --> 01:20:00,210
♪ I can see it ♪
1666
01:20:00,293 --> 01:20:03,377
♪ And it feels so real ♪
1667
01:20:03,460 --> 01:20:05,919
♪ I can feel it ♪
1668
01:20:06,002 --> 01:20:08,585
♪ And it tastes so real ♪
1669
01:20:08,669 --> 01:20:12,543
- [yells]
[onlookers exclaim]
1670
01:20:12,627 --> 01:20:14,293
- When he knows
he's getting close,
1671
01:20:14,377 --> 01:20:17,293
he does not give up on a trick
unless his body breaks.
1672
01:20:17,377 --> 01:20:20,168
He'll just throw himself
and slam, slam, slam, slam.
1673
01:20:20,252 --> 01:20:22,877
- ♪ So why ♪
1674
01:20:22,961 --> 01:20:26,252
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪
1675
01:20:26,335 --> 01:20:28,877
- The 900
was a little different,
1676
01:20:28,961 --> 01:20:31,710
'cause that really trashes
your body super quick.
1677
01:20:31,794 --> 01:20:34,002
- ♪ So why ♪
1678
01:20:34,085 --> 01:20:36,585
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪
1679
01:20:36,669 --> 01:20:43,543
♪ ♪
1680
01:20:44,543 --> 01:20:45,794
- I still don't get it, man.
1681
01:20:45,877 --> 01:20:49,002
I don't know how Tony can keep
spinning it and keep his mind.
1682
01:20:49,085 --> 01:20:52,877
Like, it's got to make you
fuckin' freak out.
1683
01:20:52,961 --> 01:20:56,627
Like, a 720.
And then the 900? Like, how?
1684
01:20:56,710 --> 01:21:00,168
It's too hard.
It's just too much spinning.
1685
01:21:00,252 --> 01:21:04,168
- He tried to do it
in a bullring in Tijuana.
1686
01:21:04,252 --> 01:21:06,752
And he had another attempt
1687
01:21:06,835 --> 01:21:09,710
where I thought
it was gonna kill him.
1688
01:21:09,794 --> 01:21:12,377
His pursuit of that
was personal,
1689
01:21:12,460 --> 01:21:14,377
but it was also at a time
when skateboarding
1690
01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:18,085
was just kind of coming back up
into being popular again.
1691
01:21:18,168 --> 01:21:19,919
- Well, the X Games gave him
1692
01:21:20,043 --> 01:21:22,543
the biggest platform
he's ever had.
1693
01:21:22,627 --> 01:21:24,835
- I heard ESPN was
gonna do an event
1694
01:21:24,919 --> 01:21:26,168
and include skateboarding.
1695
01:21:26,252 --> 01:21:29,210
I was like, "Skateboarding
is gonna be on ESPN.
1696
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:30,794
That means something."
1697
01:21:30,877 --> 01:21:33,002
I was hyped, 'cause I had
never quit skating vert.
1698
01:21:33,085 --> 01:21:36,252
- The technical difficulty
is just immense,
1699
01:21:36,335 --> 01:21:37,835
and this guy pulls it off
1700
01:21:37,919 --> 01:21:40,002
as if he's going
for a walk through the park.
1701
01:21:40,085 --> 01:21:42,293
- I was there
for the first X Games.
1702
01:21:42,377 --> 01:21:43,752
I was there
for "The Tony Hawk Show,"
1703
01:21:43,835 --> 01:21:46,585
as all the other skaters
called it.
1704
01:21:46,669 --> 01:21:49,335
He won the vert contest.
He won the street contest.
1705
01:21:49,418 --> 01:21:50,543
- Tony Hawk.
1706
01:21:50,627 --> 01:21:52,126
- After the first X Games,
1707
01:21:52,210 --> 01:21:54,669
there was a little bit
more interest.
1708
01:21:54,752 --> 01:21:56,669
It raised the bar
a little bit.
1709
01:21:56,752 --> 01:21:58,919
[cheers and applause]
1710
01:21:59,002 --> 01:22:01,126
And then when the second
X Games came around,
1711
01:22:01,210 --> 01:22:03,377
that's when you could tell
something was happening.
1712
01:22:03,460 --> 01:22:05,210
- Riley Hawk.
1713
01:22:05,293 --> 01:22:08,043
His father has
locked up the gold medal.
1714
01:22:08,126 --> 01:22:11,126
[cheers and applause]
1715
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:15,710
- He is going huge.
1716
01:22:15,794 --> 01:22:17,710
[cheers and applause]
1717
01:22:17,794 --> 01:22:22,210
Gymnastics has its Nadia,
but skateboarding has Hawk.
1718
01:22:22,293 --> 01:22:24,710
- Nobody else skates
like Tony Hawk.
1719
01:22:24,794 --> 01:22:26,126
- He is a hero.
1720
01:22:26,210 --> 01:22:27,794
- Tony Hawk,
the best skateboarder
1721
01:22:27,877 --> 01:22:29,418
the sport has ever seen.
- Tony Hawk.
1722
01:22:29,502 --> 01:22:32,293
That is the best
skateboarder in the world.
1723
01:22:32,377 --> 01:22:35,335
[cheers and applause]
1724
01:22:40,085 --> 01:22:41,168
- Hi, Dad.
1725
01:22:41,252 --> 01:22:43,168
I know that we don't get
to talk too much
1726
01:22:43,252 --> 01:22:44,377
about what you do around here,
1727
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:46,585
but I just want you to know
that I appreciate it,
1728
01:22:46,669 --> 01:22:51,502
and...that we just thought
that we'd make a video
1729
01:22:51,585 --> 01:22:54,710
saying thanks
for all the great stuff.
1730
01:22:56,377 --> 01:23:00,794
My siblings and my mom and I
had steeled ourself,
1731
01:23:00,877 --> 01:23:03,627
ready for him to have
a heart attack at any minute,
1732
01:23:03,710 --> 01:23:05,835
because he just didn't
take care of himself.
1733
01:23:05,919 --> 01:23:07,835
And it was like,
that's what's gonna happen.
1734
01:23:07,919 --> 01:23:12,669
And we all almost were all
waiting for that to happen.
1735
01:23:12,752 --> 01:23:14,418
So we all had prepared
ourselves for that,
1736
01:23:14,502 --> 01:23:17,043
and then one day,
1737
01:23:17,126 --> 01:23:19,877
he finds out
he has lung cancer.
1738
01:23:19,961 --> 01:23:22,710
He was in his final stages,
1739
01:23:22,794 --> 01:23:26,252
super rail thin, stuck in bed.
1740
01:23:26,335 --> 01:23:28,293
I went on this tour in Europe,
1741
01:23:28,377 --> 01:23:31,335
and I just felt weird
about being there,
1742
01:23:31,418 --> 01:23:34,460
'cause I knew
that he was degrading rapidly,
1743
01:23:34,543 --> 01:23:36,502
so I came home early
from the tour.
1744
01:23:36,585 --> 01:23:39,168
And he said,
"You have to do your thing.
1745
01:23:39,252 --> 01:23:41,377
You can't just sit here
and watch me die."
1746
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:44,919
For the most part,
sent me to Woodward.
1747
01:23:45,002 --> 01:23:47,627
I heard a call
over the intercom.
1748
01:23:47,710 --> 01:23:50,585
"Tony Hawk, will you please
pick up the phone?"
1749
01:23:51,627 --> 01:23:53,418
When my mom called me
at Woodward,
1750
01:23:53,502 --> 01:23:55,418
she just broke down crying
and just said,
1751
01:23:55,502 --> 01:23:58,002
"He loved you so much."
1752
01:23:58,085 --> 01:23:59,335
And that was the first time
1753
01:23:59,418 --> 01:24:02,585
she really got emotional
about my dad.
1754
01:24:02,669 --> 01:24:05,627
[somber music]
1755
01:24:05,710 --> 01:24:12,752
♪ ♪
1756
01:24:42,043 --> 01:24:43,627
- It's a very unique sport.
1757
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:45,335
It's the only sport
in the world I know
1758
01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:47,627
where competitors--
I've watched 'em in the middle
1759
01:24:47,710 --> 01:24:50,085
of heavy competition
encouraging each other.
1760
01:24:50,168 --> 01:24:52,543
[skateboard wheels rumbling]
1761
01:24:52,627 --> 01:24:54,835
And earnestly
encouraging each other.
1762
01:24:54,919 --> 01:24:57,210
Not many competitions do that.
1763
01:24:57,293 --> 01:24:59,002
- So you think
it's a good sport?
1764
01:24:59,085 --> 01:25:01,043
- Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Definitely.
1765
01:25:01,126 --> 01:25:03,210
And I'd like to see it
continue as a sport.
1766
01:25:06,293 --> 01:25:07,585
- I can guarantee you
1767
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:09,835
that every single one
of those skateboarders today
1768
01:25:09,919 --> 01:25:11,377
would look back on him fondly.
1769
01:25:11,460 --> 01:25:13,210
Guarantee it.
1770
01:25:13,293 --> 01:25:14,877
I guarantee it.
1771
01:25:16,377 --> 01:25:17,877
- His dad was like
a second dad to me.
1772
01:25:17,961 --> 01:25:21,335
Like, he was just
an amazing person.
1773
01:25:21,418 --> 01:25:24,710
- I could only imagine,
you know, my family
1774
01:25:24,794 --> 01:25:26,710
doing what his family
did for him, you know?
1775
01:25:26,794 --> 01:25:28,794
Like, I would dream about that.
1776
01:25:28,877 --> 01:25:30,418
Like, "Wow, what would
that be like?
1777
01:25:30,502 --> 01:25:32,293
Nah, my dad
would never do that."
1778
01:25:32,377 --> 01:25:36,919
♪ ♪
1779
01:25:37,002 --> 01:25:41,210
- Tony had me do something
right when his dad died,
1780
01:25:41,293 --> 01:25:44,085
and I was talking shit
at that thing.
1781
01:25:44,168 --> 01:25:49,252
I think I said something
real stupid in an interview.
1782
01:25:49,335 --> 01:25:52,669
"Glad he's gone,"
or something fucked up.
1783
01:25:52,752 --> 01:25:55,752
X Games, he's up there riding.
1784
01:25:55,835 --> 01:25:58,377
My son just died ten days ago.
1785
01:25:58,460 --> 01:25:59,710
He's got me.
1786
01:25:59,794 --> 01:26:01,669
So I get up there
and I'm like--
1787
01:26:01,752 --> 01:26:03,752
and the first thing I said was,
1788
01:26:03,835 --> 01:26:05,335
"Got me now, motherfucker.
1789
01:26:05,418 --> 01:26:06,835
What are you gonna say?"
1790
01:26:06,919 --> 01:26:11,752
And then he goes, "Duane,
I'm super sorry about Chess."
1791
01:26:11,835 --> 01:26:14,252
I fucking--I mean...
1792
01:26:17,252 --> 01:26:18,794
And he goes,
"You got a minute?"
1793
01:26:18,877 --> 01:26:20,669
'Cause cameras are on this guy
1794
01:26:20,752 --> 01:26:22,835
every-fucking-where he goes.
1795
01:26:22,919 --> 01:26:26,126
So it's like,
we go down to some, like, area
1796
01:26:26,210 --> 01:26:29,002
and fucking away from--
and just total
1797
01:26:29,085 --> 01:26:33,002
personal fucking cool--
like, what the fuck?
1798
01:26:33,085 --> 01:26:35,627
What a cool--I didn't--
you know,
1799
01:26:35,710 --> 01:26:37,085
I didn't expect that.
1800
01:26:37,168 --> 01:26:38,585
That was nice.
1801
01:26:38,669 --> 01:26:40,585
And I was really blown away.
1802
01:26:40,669 --> 01:26:42,877
Like, my kid
fucking looked up to him,
1803
01:26:42,961 --> 01:26:45,835
and I let him know that.
1804
01:26:45,919 --> 01:26:49,002
You know?
"He looked up to you, man."
1805
01:26:49,085 --> 01:26:51,085
[sniffles]
1806
01:26:51,168 --> 01:26:53,710
So I look at things
1807
01:26:53,794 --> 01:26:56,335
totally fucking different,
you know?
1808
01:26:56,418 --> 01:26:58,794
And...
1809
01:26:58,877 --> 01:27:02,543
you know...
1810
01:27:02,627 --> 01:27:06,543
when his--his dad died
1811
01:27:06,627 --> 01:27:08,752
and I said that in the--
1812
01:27:11,919 --> 01:27:14,293
'Cause it was just me and him.
1813
01:27:14,377 --> 01:27:16,919
And, you know,
that's how life works.
1814
01:27:17,002 --> 01:27:19,043
It's a fucking weird game.
1815
01:27:20,377 --> 01:27:23,460
And all that
baton twirling shit,
1816
01:27:23,543 --> 01:27:26,335
he fucking stepped it up
for all of us.
1817
01:27:26,418 --> 01:27:27,585
All that fucking shit--
1818
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:30,627
you know how much time it takes
to learn tricks like that?
1819
01:27:33,168 --> 01:27:34,835
- Okay, everybody.
1820
01:27:34,919 --> 01:27:37,377
We want to hear everybody
in the house right now.
1821
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:38,710
Boys, girls,
1822
01:27:38,794 --> 01:27:40,502
ladies, and gentlemen,
1823
01:27:40,585 --> 01:27:41,710
wrapping up
1824
01:27:41,794 --> 01:27:42,710
our Best Tricks contest.
But don't forget,
1825
01:27:43,794 --> 01:27:45,168
you're gonna pick the winner.
1826
01:27:45,252 --> 01:27:47,543
Right now,
Tony's got a shot at it.
1827
01:27:47,627 --> 01:27:50,002
Can he do it?
Let's see it.
1828
01:27:50,085 --> 01:27:52,752
[cheers and applause]
1829
01:27:52,835 --> 01:27:54,502
- Yeah.
1830
01:27:54,585 --> 01:27:58,335
900, try not to--look at him
focused out here.
1831
01:27:58,418 --> 01:28:01,543
- We love you, crowd!
We love you!
1832
01:28:01,627 --> 01:28:03,627
- Yeah.
Keep it up. Keep it up.
1833
01:28:03,710 --> 01:28:06,377
900! 900!
1834
01:28:06,460 --> 01:28:08,126
This could be it.
1835
01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:09,460
Oh!
1836
01:28:09,543 --> 01:28:12,210
- Oh, the closest one!
1837
01:28:12,293 --> 01:28:14,543
- There was always
one or two really small things
1838
01:28:14,627 --> 01:28:17,085
that made the 9
almost impossible to land.
1839
01:28:17,168 --> 01:28:19,752
And I think one
of those things clicked there,
1840
01:28:19,835 --> 01:28:22,460
and he went,
"I'm--I actually felt better
1841
01:28:22,543 --> 01:28:24,085
"than I've ever felt
spinning that 9,
1842
01:28:24,168 --> 01:28:26,043
so I'm not gonna stop."
1843
01:28:26,126 --> 01:28:28,002
- You guys, you guys
want to see one more?
1844
01:28:28,085 --> 01:28:29,752
Tony Hawk coming close.
1845
01:28:29,835 --> 01:28:30,919
- Here we go, folks.
1846
01:28:31,002 --> 01:28:33,085
- History in the making.
1847
01:28:33,168 --> 01:28:35,377
Who wouldn't want
to be right here?
1848
01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:37,002
Making history.
1849
01:28:37,085 --> 01:28:40,085
Never, ever been done before
on the skateboard.
1850
01:28:40,168 --> 01:28:42,210
He's coming close.
1851
01:28:42,293 --> 01:28:44,335
Yeah, here we go.
900!
1852
01:28:44,418 --> 01:28:46,418
900!
1853
01:28:46,502 --> 01:28:49,210
[cheers and applause]
1854
01:28:49,293 --> 01:28:52,877
Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!
1855
01:28:52,961 --> 01:28:56,085
- Oh, baby!
1856
01:28:56,168 --> 01:28:57,669
All right, stomp your feet!
1857
01:28:57,752 --> 01:28:59,794
[cheers and applause]
1858
01:28:59,877 --> 01:29:03,126
[skateboards banging]
1859
01:29:03,210 --> 01:29:06,794
[cheering intensifying]
1860
01:29:25,168 --> 01:29:28,126
[crowd exclaiming]
1861
01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:35,627
- You saw him going inward
more and more and more
1862
01:29:35,710 --> 01:29:38,126
each and every time,
and you knew--or I knew,
1863
01:29:38,210 --> 01:29:42,043
watching, like,
he really isn't gonna stop.
1864
01:29:42,126 --> 01:29:44,210
And I had been there
when he'd only stopped before
1865
01:29:44,293 --> 01:29:46,335
'cause he broke a rib.
1866
01:29:46,418 --> 01:29:49,669
"- He just said, "I'm either
gonna make this trick,
1867
01:29:49,752 --> 01:29:52,335
"or someone's gonna
take me off in a stretcher.
1868
01:29:52,418 --> 01:29:53,794
That's how it's gonna go."
1869
01:29:53,877 --> 01:29:56,835
[cheers, whistles]
1870
01:30:00,752 --> 01:30:03,669
all: Tony! Tony! Tony!
1871
01:30:17,710 --> 01:30:20,418
[crowd exclaiming]
1872
01:30:27,418 --> 01:30:30,919
all: Tony! Tony! Tony! Tony!
1873
01:30:31,002 --> 01:30:33,543
[crowd exclaiming]
1874
01:30:33,627 --> 01:30:35,085
- It was almost as if his mind
was going...
1875
01:30:35,168 --> 01:30:38,669
[imitating squishing]
1876
01:30:38,752 --> 01:30:40,710
You know, squishing down
further and further.
1877
01:30:40,794 --> 01:30:43,252
And you can just see...
1878
01:30:43,335 --> 01:30:46,126
how much intensity
it took from him.
1879
01:30:46,210 --> 01:30:48,210
[cheers and applause]
1880
01:30:48,293 --> 01:30:51,002
- 9! 9! 9! 9!
1881
01:30:51,085 --> 01:30:53,377
9! 9!
1882
01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,877
There it is!
1883
01:30:55,961 --> 01:30:58,961
[cheers, whistles]
1884
01:31:00,627 --> 01:31:02,877
[announcers speaking
indistinctly]
1885
01:31:02,961 --> 01:31:04,418
- This is important
to this guy.
1886
01:31:04,502 --> 01:31:06,710
He's focused.
He is prepped.
1887
01:31:06,794 --> 01:31:08,293
This is history in the making.
1888
01:31:08,377 --> 01:31:09,919
[speaking indistinctly]
1889
01:31:10,002 --> 01:31:13,126
[cheers, whistles]
1890
01:31:14,543 --> 01:31:16,710
9! 9!
Tony Hawk!
1891
01:31:16,794 --> 01:31:20,543
Tony Hawk!
Tony! Tony! Tony!
1892
01:31:20,627 --> 01:31:22,543
900!
1893
01:31:22,627 --> 01:31:25,919
900!
1894
01:31:26,002 --> 01:31:29,460
Oh!
So close.
1895
01:31:29,543 --> 01:31:32,961
The closest I've ever
seen anyone before.
1896
01:31:34,627 --> 01:31:40,043
Ooh, what is going on in 1999
in vertical skateboard history?
1897
01:31:40,126 --> 01:31:42,752
- We got Andy.
1898
01:31:42,835 --> 01:31:44,710
- All this energy.
These guys are going on.
1899
01:31:44,794 --> 01:31:47,669
[speaking indistinctly]
1900
01:31:47,752 --> 01:31:50,669
[cheers and applause]
1901
01:31:50,752 --> 01:31:52,502
Everybody picture it.
Here we go.
1902
01:31:55,085 --> 01:31:58,085
[cheers and applause]
1903
01:32:01,252 --> 01:32:04,460
- Yeah!
- Oh!
1904
01:32:04,543 --> 01:32:06,710
Are you kidding me?
1905
01:32:06,794 --> 01:32:09,627
Yeah!
Look at this!
1906
01:32:09,710 --> 01:32:13,002
Tony Hawk, everybody!
1907
01:32:13,085 --> 01:32:14,752
Yeah!
Look at this!
1908
01:32:14,835 --> 01:32:17,752
[soft music]
1909
01:32:17,835 --> 01:32:24,794
♪ ♪
1910
01:32:53,293 --> 01:32:55,043
- I've never seen Tony
1911
01:32:55,126 --> 01:32:58,627
explosively emotional
like that.
1912
01:32:58,710 --> 01:33:01,460
Says a lot about that sense
1913
01:33:01,543 --> 01:33:04,126
of what he found out
about himself
1914
01:33:04,210 --> 01:33:06,210
by making himself
do that trick.
1915
01:33:07,377 --> 01:33:10,543
- It had nothing to do
with the physical motions
1916
01:33:10,627 --> 01:33:11,543
of that trick.
1917
01:33:11,627 --> 01:33:13,585
It was all here.
1918
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:17,168
♪ ♪
1919
01:33:17,252 --> 01:33:19,877
- It's just a trick.
1920
01:33:19,961 --> 01:33:22,919
But to me, the ones that make
the most difference
1921
01:33:23,002 --> 01:33:25,543
in who I am as a man,
1922
01:33:25,627 --> 01:33:28,085
as a person...
1923
01:33:28,168 --> 01:33:29,835
is when you've redlined it
so much
1924
01:33:29,919 --> 01:33:32,168
that you did something
that you didn't know
1925
01:33:32,252 --> 01:33:34,168
if you had it in you to do it.
1926
01:33:34,252 --> 01:33:37,418
That's a different
kind of proving ground.
1927
01:33:39,002 --> 01:33:41,210
That shifts something
within you.
1928
01:33:41,293 --> 01:33:46,919
♪ ♪
1929
01:33:47,002 --> 01:33:51,293
- I could feel
the thrill that I got
1930
01:33:51,377 --> 01:33:53,585
from anything I've done
through him.
1931
01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:55,252
It was huge.
1932
01:33:55,335 --> 01:33:59,919
Like, I was so excited
to see him do that.
1933
01:34:00,002 --> 01:34:03,002
So excited and happy for him.
1934
01:34:03,085 --> 01:34:05,252
You know, I just knew
what was going on.
1935
01:34:05,335 --> 01:34:09,085
Like, I've never reached that,
1936
01:34:09,168 --> 01:34:10,794
because I'll never do a 900.
1937
01:34:10,877 --> 01:34:12,293
But I've reached it
in other things.
1938
01:34:12,377 --> 01:34:15,210
And just the feel of that
and the win of that
1939
01:34:15,293 --> 01:34:17,710
and the--it's just rad.
1940
01:34:17,794 --> 01:34:18,877
It's huge.
1941
01:34:18,961 --> 01:34:21,418
It's so--it's killer.
It's so good.
1942
01:34:23,627 --> 01:34:26,335
- Sean Mortimer called me up,
like, two minutes
1943
01:34:26,418 --> 01:34:28,669
after he landed it
from the ramp and said,
1944
01:34:28,752 --> 01:34:31,043
"Your brother just landed a 9!
1945
01:34:31,126 --> 01:34:34,085
It's like a war ended!"
[laughs]
1946
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:37,168
♪ ♪
1947
01:34:37,252 --> 01:34:38,919
The thing I love about the 900
1948
01:34:39,002 --> 01:34:41,710
that doesn't get talked about
much was that...
1949
01:34:41,794 --> 01:34:44,252
that moment is kind of
in sports history,
1950
01:34:44,335 --> 01:34:46,293
which really was a moment
in sports history,
1951
01:34:46,377 --> 01:34:48,502
could only have happened
in skateboarding,
1952
01:34:48,585 --> 01:34:51,919
because any other sport,
1953
01:34:52,002 --> 01:34:54,126
the clock ran out.
1954
01:34:54,210 --> 01:34:55,460
It was done.
1955
01:34:55,543 --> 01:34:56,919
Like, that wouldn't
have happened
1956
01:34:57,002 --> 01:34:58,669
if they'd had skateboarding
in the Olympics,
1957
01:34:58,752 --> 01:35:00,293
'cause you know,
once the clock ran out,
1958
01:35:00,377 --> 01:35:03,252
they would have run up
and chained up the ramp
1959
01:35:03,335 --> 01:35:05,502
and said, "Okay, we're done."
But the--
1960
01:35:05,585 --> 01:35:08,085
- The irony is, if your dad
was running the--
1961
01:35:08,168 --> 01:35:09,377
- Oh, my God.
1962
01:35:09,460 --> 01:35:10,627
You know,
that just occurred to me.
1963
01:35:10,710 --> 01:35:12,002
If my dad had been
running the show,
1964
01:35:12,085 --> 01:35:13,919
it wouldn't have happened.
1965
01:35:14,002 --> 01:35:17,002
Fuck.
That just occurred to me.
1966
01:35:19,126 --> 01:35:22,502
- I wish my dad had been able
to see the recognition
1967
01:35:22,585 --> 01:35:24,293
and the appreciation
that skateboarding got
1968
01:35:24,377 --> 01:35:26,502
after '99, 2000.
1969
01:35:26,585 --> 01:35:28,669
Even in his wildest dreams,
1970
01:35:28,752 --> 01:35:31,669
he thought that skateboard
contests would be bigger,
1971
01:35:31,752 --> 01:35:34,377
but he would have
never imagined
1972
01:35:34,460 --> 01:35:36,627
that it blew up the way it did.
1973
01:35:36,710 --> 01:35:38,043
[explosion booms]
1974
01:35:38,126 --> 01:35:40,335
- Las Vegas,
put your hands together
1975
01:35:40,418 --> 01:35:43,335
for the Boom Boom HuckJam!
1976
01:35:43,418 --> 01:35:45,502
[cheers and applause]
1977
01:35:45,585 --> 01:35:48,502
[Social Distortion's
"Story of My Life"]
1978
01:35:48,585 --> 01:35:55,210
♪ ♪
1979
01:35:57,919 --> 01:36:00,585
- Whoo-hoo!
1980
01:36:00,669 --> 01:36:07,669
♪ ♪
1981
01:36:09,502 --> 01:36:12,293
- Suddenly,
we were rock stars again,
1982
01:36:12,377 --> 01:36:15,210
but on a completely
different level.
1983
01:36:15,293 --> 01:36:16,377
[fireworks boom]
1984
01:36:16,460 --> 01:36:21,085
Performing in arenas,
selling out night after night.
1985
01:36:21,168 --> 01:36:22,669
We had a setup
that filled an arena floor.
1986
01:36:22,752 --> 01:36:24,835
We were way bigger
than a rock tour.
1987
01:36:24,919 --> 01:36:26,502
We filled
the entire arena floor
1988
01:36:26,585 --> 01:36:29,293
with ramps and lights,
pyrotechnics.
1989
01:36:29,377 --> 01:36:32,210
- ♪ Like such a blur ♪
1990
01:36:32,293 --> 01:36:34,043
- It was high-pressure
skateboarding.
1991
01:36:34,126 --> 01:36:35,961
It was like,
you have to make this trick,
1992
01:36:36,043 --> 01:36:37,627
or a motorcycle
could land on you.
1993
01:36:37,710 --> 01:36:41,085
- ♪ In class,
I dreamed all day ♪
1994
01:36:41,168 --> 01:36:43,627
- I can remember watching
the Boom Boom HuckJam,
1995
01:36:43,710 --> 01:36:47,627
and other ladies my age were--
just couldn't watch.
1996
01:36:47,710 --> 01:36:49,043
Their hands were
over their face,
1997
01:36:49,126 --> 01:36:51,126
and they were just terrified.
1998
01:36:51,210 --> 01:36:53,585
- ♪ So close, yet so far,
you know ♪
1999
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:56,794
♪ She never seemed to notice ♪
2000
01:36:56,877 --> 01:36:58,252
- Every night was a new city.
2001
01:36:58,335 --> 01:37:01,585
They would put a piece of tape
on the deck of the ramp.
2002
01:37:01,669 --> 01:37:03,043
When they handed you
the microphone,
2003
01:37:03,126 --> 01:37:04,669
you could glance down
at that tape
2004
01:37:04,752 --> 01:37:06,543
so you didn't go...
2005
01:37:06,627 --> 01:37:09,168
"Thank you, Philadelphia,"
and you're really in Chicago.
2006
01:37:09,252 --> 01:37:10,877
♪ ♪
2007
01:37:10,961 --> 01:37:12,126
- Living in the lap of luxury.
2008
01:37:12,210 --> 01:37:15,085
Like, people were providing
for us at every turn.
2009
01:37:17,293 --> 01:37:20,335
Flying in and out of the tour
on Tony's private jet,
2010
01:37:20,418 --> 01:37:22,293
staying in these great hotels.
2011
01:37:22,377 --> 01:37:23,961
♪ ♪
2012
01:37:24,043 --> 01:37:26,210
- It's all younger dudes,
mostly single.
2013
01:37:26,293 --> 01:37:29,126
And it was just like,
the world is yours.
2014
01:37:29,210 --> 01:37:31,002
You guys are, you know,
Led Zeppelin tonight.
2015
01:37:31,085 --> 01:37:32,961
♪ ♪
2016
01:37:33,043 --> 01:37:35,293
- ♪ Story of my life ♪
2017
01:37:35,377 --> 01:37:37,460
- "Come on, Tony, let's go!
We got this club downtown."
2018
01:37:37,543 --> 01:37:40,085
Like, the tour manager
would call ahead and be like,
2019
01:37:40,168 --> 01:37:43,418
"Hey, we got Tony Hawk coming.
Make sure the door's open."
2020
01:37:43,502 --> 01:37:45,335
- ♪ The faces
have all changed ♪
2021
01:37:45,418 --> 01:37:48,085
♪ There's no one there
left to talk to ♪
2022
01:37:48,168 --> 01:37:51,252
♪ And the pool hall
that I loved as a kid ♪
2023
01:37:51,335 --> 01:37:53,126
- There's a part of that
where it's like,
2024
01:37:53,210 --> 01:37:56,252
"Okay, so now what?
So now you're a rock star?
2025
01:37:56,335 --> 01:37:59,293
So now you have
all this excess?"
2026
01:37:59,377 --> 01:38:01,335
- ♪ To look for a job ♪
2027
01:38:01,418 --> 01:38:02,543
♪ ♪
2028
01:38:02,627 --> 01:38:04,752
♪ I had no training ♪
2029
01:38:04,835 --> 01:38:07,835
- You know, Activision came
to him to do the video game,
2030
01:38:07,919 --> 01:38:09,293
and it was the best company,
2031
01:38:09,377 --> 01:38:10,669
and they had
the best developer,
2032
01:38:10,752 --> 01:38:13,168
and, you know, he was hands-on.
2033
01:38:13,252 --> 01:38:16,210
- ♪ Oh ♪
2034
01:38:16,293 --> 01:38:18,043
♪ ♪
2035
01:38:18,126 --> 01:38:20,335
- They developed this game
that he never thought
2036
01:38:20,418 --> 01:38:24,085
was gonna be particularly
popular amongst everybody.
2037
01:38:24,168 --> 01:38:26,627
He thought skaters
would like it.
2038
01:38:26,710 --> 01:38:28,627
- When the fourth game
was released,
2039
01:38:28,710 --> 01:38:30,877
the first three were still
in the top ten of sales.
2040
01:38:30,961 --> 01:38:33,502
And Activision called
a meeting with me.
2041
01:38:33,585 --> 01:38:35,502
I went and met one of the guys
I worked with.
2042
01:38:35,585 --> 01:38:37,502
I met him for lunch,
and he said--
2043
01:38:37,585 --> 01:38:39,002
he explained to me
what was happening.
2044
01:38:39,085 --> 01:38:40,627
He's like, "Well,
this is in the top sales,
2045
01:38:40,710 --> 01:38:41,794
and now it's a best hit."
2046
01:38:41,877 --> 01:38:42,794
I go, "What does that mean?"
2047
01:38:42,877 --> 01:38:44,210
He goes,
"This is what it means,"
2048
01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:47,543
and he hands me a check
for $4.5 million.
2049
01:38:47,627 --> 01:38:50,710
And I was like, "Oh, my God."
2050
01:38:50,794 --> 01:38:52,377
And then two years later,
2051
01:38:52,460 --> 01:38:54,585
they gave me an advance
of $20 million.
2052
01:38:54,669 --> 01:38:57,794
- Tony was getting recognized
everywhere.
2053
01:38:57,877 --> 01:39:00,210
He was the face
of skateboarding.
2054
01:39:00,293 --> 01:39:02,919
- I never got into
skateboarding to be famous.
2055
01:39:03,002 --> 01:39:04,877
I never thought I'd be famous.
2056
01:39:04,961 --> 01:39:06,919
And then I was famous,
and I was like,
2057
01:39:07,002 --> 01:39:08,835
"Well, I'm famous now.
2058
01:39:08,919 --> 01:39:12,168
I guess I'm supposed to do
all this stuff."
2059
01:39:12,252 --> 01:39:15,418
But it's the worst drug.
2060
01:39:15,502 --> 01:39:16,543
It's the worst drug.
2061
01:39:16,627 --> 01:39:17,627
- You got to let him go.
2062
01:39:17,710 --> 01:39:18,919
Come on, let him go through.
2063
01:39:19,002 --> 01:39:20,210
- And it's so easy
to fall into.
2064
01:39:20,293 --> 01:39:22,002
It's crazy.
2065
01:39:22,085 --> 01:39:23,669
There was infidelity,
2066
01:39:23,752 --> 01:39:27,460
lying to myself
about justification,
2067
01:39:27,543 --> 01:39:29,418
you know, not being honest
with others,
2068
01:39:29,502 --> 01:39:31,460
not being honest with myself.
2069
01:39:31,543 --> 01:39:33,168
A lot of other things
2070
01:39:33,252 --> 01:39:34,877
that should have taken
priority in my life,
2071
01:39:34,961 --> 01:39:37,961
especially my kids,
fell by the wayside.
2072
01:39:38,043 --> 01:39:40,543
I had issues
with intimacy already,
2073
01:39:40,627 --> 01:39:44,168
and then I'm in
this crazy scenario.
2074
01:39:44,252 --> 01:39:45,543
I didn't like myself.
2075
01:39:45,627 --> 01:39:48,043
I didn't like
the choices I was making.
2076
01:39:48,126 --> 01:39:51,377
And that started to spiral
worse and worse.
2077
01:39:51,460 --> 01:39:52,669
I'm gonna distract over here.
2078
01:39:52,752 --> 01:39:54,043
I'm gonna anesthetize
with this.
2079
01:39:54,126 --> 01:39:56,585
And it was just like,
"What's wrong with you?
2080
01:39:56,669 --> 01:39:58,543
Why can't you just be content?"
2081
01:39:58,627 --> 01:40:01,961
[somber music]
2082
01:40:02,043 --> 01:40:03,961
People aren't even happy
at home to see me.
2083
01:40:04,043 --> 01:40:06,543
Everyone's happy
to see me out on the road.
2084
01:40:06,627 --> 01:40:09,418
They welcome me.
2085
01:40:09,502 --> 01:40:10,460
"New York Times"
wants to talk to me.
2086
01:40:10,543 --> 01:40:11,460
I gotta go do that.
2087
01:40:11,543 --> 01:40:13,961
I gotta fly here
for this charity event,
2088
01:40:14,043 --> 01:40:15,293
'cause they invited me.
2089
01:40:15,377 --> 01:40:16,752
There's a movie premiere.
They want me.
2090
01:40:16,835 --> 01:40:18,126
I gotta be on the red carpet.
2091
01:40:18,210 --> 01:40:19,627
Well, of course I gotta go to--
2092
01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:23,794
I gotta go to Monaco
for the "Sports Awards"...
2093
01:40:23,877 --> 01:40:25,961
that I'm not even
nominated for.
2094
01:40:26,043 --> 01:40:31,085
And then I'd be there
and at some point back alone
2095
01:40:31,168 --> 01:40:34,710
and just thinking,
"Why aren't you just home?"
2096
01:40:34,794 --> 01:40:39,043
♪ ♪
2097
01:40:39,126 --> 01:40:40,752
[groans softly]
2098
01:40:40,835 --> 01:40:43,794
- The whole concept of, like,
yeah, people asking me, like,
2099
01:40:43,877 --> 01:40:46,252
"What's it like
to have your dad be Tony Hawk?"
2100
01:40:46,335 --> 01:40:47,543
It's like,
it's the only thing I know,
2101
01:40:47,627 --> 01:40:49,961
so I don't know
what it's not like.
2102
01:40:51,794 --> 01:40:54,835
- Riley was with me through
all of my relationships
2103
01:40:54,919 --> 01:40:58,543
and challenges and turmoil.
2104
01:40:58,627 --> 01:41:00,794
Riley had a rough upbringing
2105
01:41:00,877 --> 01:41:04,460
with a lot
of different co-parents
2106
01:41:04,543 --> 01:41:06,502
and half siblings.
2107
01:41:06,585 --> 01:41:09,002
And he just
went along with it,
2108
01:41:09,085 --> 01:41:11,460
'cause he didn't--obviously,
he didn't have a choice.
2109
01:41:11,543 --> 01:41:13,293
- It definitely was tricky
being the oldest
2110
01:41:13,377 --> 01:41:15,502
of two families
2111
01:41:15,585 --> 01:41:17,168
and two separate sets
of siblings,
2112
01:41:17,252 --> 01:41:18,919
because you're just kind of,
like--
2113
01:41:19,002 --> 01:41:21,877
I was the only one doing this.
2114
01:41:23,377 --> 01:41:25,085
- We were on tour once,
2115
01:41:25,168 --> 01:41:27,794
and I should have really
just enjoyed that aspect.
2116
01:41:27,877 --> 01:41:29,961
Like,
"Oh, Riley's here on tour."
2117
01:41:30,085 --> 01:41:31,335
And I remember him
looking at me like,
2118
01:41:31,418 --> 01:41:34,752
"Are you gonna go out
again tonight?"
2119
01:41:34,835 --> 01:41:36,418
And I was thinking, like,
"Aw, well,
2120
01:41:36,502 --> 01:41:38,085
you're just gonna fall asleep.
It's okay."
2121
01:41:38,168 --> 01:41:39,502
Like, "Someone will be
in the room with you.
2122
01:41:39,585 --> 01:41:40,877
It'll be all right."
2123
01:41:40,961 --> 01:41:43,210
And, like, I think back
to those times, like,
2124
01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:45,085
"You should have
taken that as a sign."
2125
01:41:47,502 --> 01:41:50,377
My other kids,
they only saw one relationship
2126
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:51,710
or two relationships.
2127
01:41:51,794 --> 01:41:54,002
And they're like,
"Oh, this is your pattern.
2128
01:41:54,085 --> 01:41:55,919
This is what you do."
2129
01:41:56,002 --> 01:41:57,877
I didn't know how to live
in my own skin.
2130
01:41:57,961 --> 01:42:01,710
I didn't know how to--
how to like myself.
2131
01:42:01,794 --> 01:42:04,752
And I didn't know how to...
2132
01:42:04,835 --> 01:42:08,543
be a husband or a father
2133
01:42:08,627 --> 01:42:10,877
that I would be proud of.
2134
01:42:10,961 --> 01:42:16,627
♪ ♪
2135
01:42:16,710 --> 01:42:18,043
Chef has arrived.
2136
01:42:22,669 --> 01:42:26,543
So scary that you cut
towards your fingers.
2137
01:42:26,627 --> 01:42:28,043
- No.
2138
01:42:28,126 --> 01:42:31,669
- It's scary to me
as the adult figure
2139
01:42:31,752 --> 01:42:32,919
and the one that's supposed
to be responsible
2140
01:42:33,002 --> 01:42:34,043
for your safety.
2141
01:42:34,126 --> 01:42:36,210
That frightens me.
- This frightens you?
2142
01:42:36,293 --> 01:42:37,543
- Yes.
2143
01:42:41,794 --> 01:42:43,377
- No, but come down here.
2144
01:42:43,460 --> 01:42:45,669
- Are you guys pretending
like you guys cook?
2145
01:42:45,752 --> 01:42:48,710
- Oh!
- He took the trash out, too.
2146
01:42:48,794 --> 01:42:51,210
And he went
to the grocery store.
2147
01:42:51,293 --> 01:42:52,877
- I am a hunter and gatherer.
2148
01:42:52,961 --> 01:42:55,835
I hunt and gather income
by riding a skateboard.
2149
01:42:55,919 --> 01:42:57,794
[laughs]
2150
01:42:57,877 --> 01:42:58,919
- When I met Tony,
2151
01:42:59,002 --> 01:43:00,961
there was just something
very comfortable
2152
01:43:01,043 --> 01:43:02,502
about being around him.
2153
01:43:02,585 --> 01:43:04,210
Like, kind of like
when you meet somebody
2154
01:43:04,293 --> 01:43:08,168
that you feel like you've known
kind of feeling.
2155
01:43:08,252 --> 01:43:10,502
You're just the worst.
He's the worst.
2156
01:43:10,585 --> 01:43:12,168
- Oh, my God, he just--
- He's the worst.
2157
01:43:12,252 --> 01:43:14,210
- [laughing]
- He's the worst.
2158
01:43:14,293 --> 01:43:16,752
- When Cathy and I found
2159
01:43:16,835 --> 01:43:19,335
that there could be
this chance of romance,
2160
01:43:19,418 --> 01:43:24,168
I knew deep down
I had not figured out my life.
2161
01:43:24,252 --> 01:43:26,252
Like, I had not figured out
how to function
2162
01:43:26,335 --> 01:43:28,126
in a committed relationship,
2163
01:43:28,210 --> 01:43:30,460
and I carried all this baggage.
2164
01:43:30,543 --> 01:43:34,126
And I didn't think
she knew the depths of it.
2165
01:43:34,210 --> 01:43:36,919
- He didn't know how to...
2166
01:43:38,418 --> 01:43:41,252
Express his real,
true feelings.
2167
01:43:42,585 --> 01:43:46,585
There's just some holes there
that he filled
2168
01:43:46,669 --> 01:43:48,168
with skateboarding.
2169
01:43:48,252 --> 01:43:50,543
And skateboarding fed so much
2170
01:43:50,627 --> 01:43:53,085
of what he was lacking
2171
01:43:53,168 --> 01:43:54,835
that I don't know
if he developed
2172
01:43:54,919 --> 01:43:57,168
how to get those things
other ways.
2173
01:43:57,252 --> 01:44:00,752
Even the relationship with his
parents was around skating.
2174
01:44:00,835 --> 01:44:04,627
Everything was around skating.
2175
01:44:04,710 --> 01:44:06,502
- I had to go make a change.
Like, I just knew it.
2176
01:44:06,585 --> 01:44:08,669
I knew I wasn't capable
of doing it myself.
2177
01:44:08,752 --> 01:44:10,710
♪ ♪
2178
01:44:10,794 --> 01:44:12,252
Checked into a place.
2179
01:44:12,335 --> 01:44:14,919
And...it was hard.
2180
01:44:15,002 --> 01:44:16,252
It was super hard.
2181
01:44:18,210 --> 01:44:20,002
And where do you even start?
2182
01:44:22,126 --> 01:44:23,877
There's a skate park downtown.
2183
01:44:23,961 --> 01:44:28,085
I was at that skate park
at 7:00 a.m. every single day.
2184
01:44:28,961 --> 01:44:31,210
I made a special request
to be able to do that.
2185
01:44:32,627 --> 01:44:35,293
There was ice on the ground.
2186
01:44:35,377 --> 01:44:38,168
There was snow
covering the coping sometimes.
2187
01:44:38,252 --> 01:44:40,835
I would go out there
in snow gloves
2188
01:44:40,919 --> 01:44:43,710
and session for at least
an hour by myself.
2189
01:44:43,794 --> 01:44:46,710
[soft music]
2190
01:44:46,794 --> 01:44:47,835
♪ ♪
2191
01:44:47,919 --> 01:44:50,669
What I realized
is that I've had
2192
01:44:50,752 --> 01:44:55,085
the most intense discipline
in my life with skating.
2193
01:44:55,168 --> 01:44:59,460
If I can--if I can focus
that discipline on my life...
2194
01:45:01,168 --> 01:45:03,752
I must have it in there.
I must be able to do that.
2195
01:45:03,835 --> 01:45:06,418
- He said,
"I know I can do this,
2196
01:45:06,502 --> 01:45:08,460
"because these are
the qualities I have.
2197
01:45:08,543 --> 01:45:12,126
"I am determined,
I'm disciplined,
2198
01:45:12,210 --> 01:45:14,919
and I know I can make
all these changes in myself."
2199
01:45:15,002 --> 01:45:18,085
Because he has the example
of doing it in skating.
2200
01:45:18,168 --> 01:45:20,210
- I knew that
2201
01:45:20,293 --> 01:45:24,252
I was going to do
everything necessary
2202
01:45:24,335 --> 01:45:27,543
and stick with it
and lean into it
2203
01:45:27,627 --> 01:45:30,543
and wrote this ugly list
of things I wasn't proud of,
2204
01:45:30,627 --> 01:45:32,710
and...
2205
01:45:32,794 --> 01:45:34,168
that probably was the moment
2206
01:45:34,252 --> 01:45:38,710
where I was most in shock
and just was like,
2207
01:45:38,794 --> 01:45:40,752
"This is the end of that."
2208
01:45:42,293 --> 01:45:45,794
I released this baggage,
2209
01:45:45,877 --> 01:45:49,794
and I felt like
I finally have a foundation
2210
01:45:49,877 --> 01:45:54,460
to fill up
with a positive way of living.
2211
01:45:54,543 --> 01:45:58,752
Me coming to terms with it was
balling up this list
2212
01:45:58,835 --> 01:46:00,043
and throwing it in the fire.
2213
01:46:03,919 --> 01:46:06,252
- Do you need any help?
- [chuckles] Yes.
2214
01:46:07,752 --> 01:46:09,085
Can you help me get youth?
2215
01:46:09,168 --> 01:46:10,752
- No.
- Why not?
2216
01:46:10,835 --> 01:46:12,252
You have so much of it.
2217
01:46:12,335 --> 01:46:14,919
- He's probably
at the point in his life
2218
01:46:15,002 --> 01:46:18,126
where he's probably
happiest with himself
2219
01:46:18,210 --> 01:46:19,585
and happiest
in his relationship.
2220
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:21,627
And I think, ultimately,
that has the biggest effect
2221
01:46:21,710 --> 01:46:23,502
on your relationship
to your children.
2222
01:46:23,585 --> 01:46:27,043
And so I'm happy that he was
able to get to that point.
2223
01:46:27,126 --> 01:46:30,043
And now he has Kady
that he can,
2224
01:46:30,126 --> 01:46:32,168
you know, be that parent to.
2225
01:46:32,252 --> 01:46:35,043
And I think he's the best form
of himself now.
2226
01:46:36,210 --> 01:46:37,377
- Can you stand up?
2227
01:46:39,085 --> 01:46:40,168
- Oh, my God.
2228
01:46:41,752 --> 01:46:43,585
- Oh, you did it!
2229
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:44,961
That's the first time
I've seen you do it.
2230
01:46:49,335 --> 01:46:51,293
- Rodney Mullen
goes to his warehouse
2231
01:46:51,377 --> 01:46:52,877
and skates every night.
2232
01:46:52,961 --> 01:46:55,710
Lance is still waking up
every day and skating.
2233
01:46:55,794 --> 01:46:58,126
Steve Caballero's
still considering himself
2234
01:46:58,210 --> 01:46:59,502
a pro skater.
2235
01:46:59,585 --> 01:47:01,460
Mike McGill still skates,
and obviously,
2236
01:47:01,543 --> 01:47:05,252
Tony is skating all the time
at the highest level.
2237
01:47:05,335 --> 01:47:07,543
- There's a difference,
though, in some of those guys.
2238
01:47:07,627 --> 01:47:08,961
Rodney Mullen...
2239
01:47:10,627 --> 01:47:12,377
Skateboarding for him, I think,
2240
01:47:12,460 --> 01:47:15,835
is really an art form
that he just has to practice
2241
01:47:15,919 --> 01:47:18,752
like a Buddhist monk meditates.
2242
01:47:18,835 --> 01:47:20,252
Caballero has his artwork.
2243
01:47:20,335 --> 01:47:22,585
Mike McGill--
I think that Mike has a real
2244
01:47:22,669 --> 01:47:24,418
healthy relationship
with his skateboarding.
2245
01:47:24,502 --> 01:47:26,919
I think he realizes
his better days are behind him.
2246
01:47:27,002 --> 01:47:28,085
He's fine with that.
2247
01:47:28,168 --> 01:47:31,710
I think Lance still feels
2248
01:47:31,794 --> 01:47:33,961
he's got to prove himself
in backyard pools.
2249
01:47:34,043 --> 01:47:37,502
So Lance and Tony--
[clears throat]
2250
01:47:37,585 --> 01:47:38,919
They're in a different place.
2251
01:47:40,210 --> 01:47:42,877
- We're gonna go over
to Bob Burnquist's house,
2252
01:47:42,961 --> 01:47:44,710
compound, ramp.
2253
01:47:44,794 --> 01:47:46,752
I'd like to do a 360
over the gap.
2254
01:47:46,835 --> 01:47:48,293
And then if I make that,
2255
01:47:48,377 --> 01:47:49,794
I gotta do something
on the quarter pipe.
2256
01:47:49,877 --> 01:47:52,002
But I'll cross that bridge
when I get to it.
2257
01:47:53,502 --> 01:47:55,252
Here we are at Bob's.
2258
01:47:55,335 --> 01:47:56,752
- This looks a little crazy.
- There it is.
2259
01:47:56,835 --> 01:47:57,794
- It's a little crazy-looking.
2260
01:47:57,877 --> 01:48:00,877
[wind whooshing]
2261
01:48:25,752 --> 01:48:26,919
- Whoo!
2262
01:48:27,043 --> 01:48:28,460
[energetic rock music]
2263
01:48:28,543 --> 01:48:30,293
- I've seen him
get way more hurt
2264
01:48:30,377 --> 01:48:32,418
and try way more
gnarly things now
2265
01:48:32,502 --> 01:48:35,002
than he ever did
back when he was a kid.
2266
01:48:35,085 --> 01:48:37,335
[The Replacements' "Take Me
Down to the Hospital"]
2267
01:48:37,418 --> 01:48:38,752
- Yeah!
2268
01:48:38,835 --> 01:48:40,377
- Tony!
2269
01:48:40,460 --> 01:48:43,460
[cheers and applause]
2270
01:48:43,543 --> 01:48:45,961
♪ ♪
2271
01:48:46,043 --> 01:48:48,293
- ♪ Well, I can't breathe ♪
2272
01:48:48,377 --> 01:48:50,627
♪ I can't swallow ♪
2273
01:48:50,710 --> 01:48:52,585
♪ Here today ♪
2274
01:48:52,669 --> 01:48:55,627
♪ Going back tomorrow ♪
2275
01:48:55,710 --> 01:48:57,877
- I was there when he tried
the loop for the first time.
2276
01:48:57,961 --> 01:49:03,919
♪ ♪
2277
01:49:05,002 --> 01:49:07,293
And I actually,
at one point, said,
2278
01:49:07,377 --> 01:49:10,210
"Can you just, like,
make him stop, please?
2279
01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:12,377
Can we stop this?"
But he didn't.
2280
01:49:12,460 --> 01:49:13,502
♪ ♪
2281
01:49:13,585 --> 01:49:15,543
- ♪ Red light running ♪
2282
01:49:15,627 --> 01:49:17,752
♪ Drag me in ♪
2283
01:49:17,835 --> 01:49:20,002
♪ Move the seat back ♪
2284
01:49:20,085 --> 01:49:22,877
♪ It's Saturday night ♪
2285
01:49:22,961 --> 01:49:24,502
♪ Take me down ♪
2286
01:49:24,585 --> 01:49:26,961
♪ To the hospital ♪
2287
01:49:27,043 --> 01:49:28,335
♪ Take me down ♪
2288
01:49:28,418 --> 01:49:29,502
- Yeah!
2289
01:49:29,585 --> 01:49:31,043
- ♪ To the hospital ♪
2290
01:49:31,126 --> 01:49:33,669
- One of the reasons
he's accomplished so much
2291
01:49:33,752 --> 01:49:36,502
is, he doesn't think
about the bad things.
2292
01:49:36,585 --> 01:49:38,168
He doesn't let that get to him.
2293
01:49:38,252 --> 01:49:40,335
♪ ♪
2294
01:49:40,418 --> 01:49:42,043
- ♪ Prop me up ♪
2295
01:49:42,126 --> 01:49:44,502
- Yeah!
- Yeah!
2296
01:49:44,585 --> 01:49:46,126
[person whistles]
2297
01:49:46,210 --> 01:49:48,919
- Tony is competing
against Tony.
2298
01:49:49,002 --> 01:49:51,377
He's always been
competing against Tony.
2299
01:49:51,460 --> 01:49:54,543
- Three, two, one, go!
2300
01:49:54,627 --> 01:49:56,377
- ♪ Get out of them slacks ♪
2301
01:49:56,460 --> 01:49:57,877
♪ Out of them slacks ♪
2302
01:49:57,961 --> 01:50:01,418
- Tony does not tire
of getting hurt,
2303
01:50:01,502 --> 01:50:03,710
he does not tire of repetition,
2304
01:50:03,794 --> 01:50:06,043
and he does not tire
of just doing the same thing
2305
01:50:06,126 --> 01:50:08,043
and attempting it
over and over.
2306
01:50:08,126 --> 01:50:15,043
♪ ♪
2307
01:50:16,210 --> 01:50:18,919
- ♪ Oh ♪
2308
01:50:19,002 --> 01:50:20,835
- You know, one thing for sure
about Tony
2309
01:50:20,919 --> 01:50:23,085
is that he can take a slam.
2310
01:50:23,168 --> 01:50:25,669
It's rare to find people who
2311
01:50:25,752 --> 01:50:28,877
like to get back up
and try it again.
2312
01:50:28,961 --> 01:50:30,669
♪ ♪
2313
01:50:30,752 --> 01:50:32,585
- ♪ I don't wanna ♪
2314
01:50:32,669 --> 01:50:34,752
♪ Ride no car ♪
2315
01:50:34,835 --> 01:50:36,460
[cheers and applause]
2316
01:50:36,543 --> 01:50:39,418
- The reason he's been hurt
more than most people
2317
01:50:39,502 --> 01:50:41,126
is because he's attempting
2318
01:50:41,210 --> 01:50:43,919
so many more things
that they would never attempt.
2319
01:50:44,002 --> 01:50:46,418
- ♪ Take me to ♪
- ♪ Hospital ♪
2320
01:50:46,502 --> 01:50:48,418
- ♪ Take me down ♪
- ♪ Hospital ♪
2321
01:50:48,502 --> 01:50:50,919
- Holy shit.
2322
01:50:51,002 --> 01:50:52,919
- He's going to take some hits.
2323
01:50:53,002 --> 01:50:54,210
♪ ♪
2324
01:50:54,293 --> 01:50:56,418
- ♪ Hospital ♪
2325
01:50:56,502 --> 01:50:57,877
♪ Hospital ♪
2326
01:50:57,961 --> 01:50:59,043
[body thuds]
2327
01:50:59,126 --> 01:51:01,252
- One time,
I saw Tony fall at Del Mar,
2328
01:51:01,335 --> 01:51:05,210
and I guess his knee was
locking up and getting stuck.
2329
01:51:05,293 --> 01:51:06,210
I'm looking at it,
2330
01:51:06,293 --> 01:51:07,252
and he's like,
"Yeah, my knee's stuck."
2331
01:51:07,335 --> 01:51:09,085
And he's like,
"Pull it! Pull it! Pull it!"
2332
01:51:09,168 --> 01:51:11,043
I think it was his dad
or something like that
2333
01:51:11,126 --> 01:51:12,335
pulling on it.
2334
01:51:12,418 --> 01:51:15,126
And boom! And then he's like,
"Oh, all right."
2335
01:51:15,210 --> 01:51:18,126
[laughing] He gets back up
and goes to skate again.
2336
01:51:18,210 --> 01:51:21,460
I'm like, "If my knee
got stuck, I'd be like,
2337
01:51:21,543 --> 01:51:23,126
'I need to go to a doctor.'"
2338
01:51:23,210 --> 01:51:25,627
And he's like, "No, I'm good."
2339
01:51:25,710 --> 01:51:26,794
- Broke my elbow.
2340
01:51:26,877 --> 01:51:29,919
Knocked my teeth out
at least five times.
2341
01:51:30,002 --> 01:51:32,794
Didn't dislocate my shoulder,
but it went out and in.
2342
01:51:32,877 --> 01:51:36,085
Rolled my ankles so far
that they should have broken,
2343
01:51:36,168 --> 01:51:39,252
and maybe I would have
benefited more if they had,
2344
01:51:39,335 --> 01:51:41,126
'cause now they're just
kind of loose.
2345
01:51:41,210 --> 01:51:43,919
I've had dozens of concussions
2346
01:51:44,002 --> 01:51:46,961
but only a few
that were really bad,
2347
01:51:47,043 --> 01:51:49,252
where I woke up somewhere else.
2348
01:51:49,335 --> 01:51:51,585
- His body's pretty messed up.
2349
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:53,627
You know, if you watch him
turn and stuff like that,
2350
01:51:53,710 --> 01:51:55,502
he's got a lot of stiffness.
2351
01:51:55,585 --> 01:51:57,543
- I know what he has,
which a lot of us get,
2352
01:51:57,627 --> 01:52:00,335
is, we get whiplash
from taking slams.
2353
01:52:00,418 --> 01:52:02,210
And he has it really bad.
2354
01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:03,710
- I'm that guy
that people ask, like,
2355
01:52:03,794 --> 01:52:05,002
"Something wrong
with your neck?"
2356
01:52:05,085 --> 01:52:08,085
I'm like, "Yes.
40 years of whiplash."
2357
01:52:10,835 --> 01:52:12,710
- Whoa!
- Shit!
2358
01:52:14,126 --> 01:52:16,085
That's not good.
2359
01:52:16,168 --> 01:52:17,585
- Medic!
- Hey, medic! Quick!
2360
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:19,961
- Medic! Medic!
2361
01:52:20,043 --> 01:52:22,002
- Can you hear me, Tony?
2362
01:52:22,085 --> 01:52:23,919
Can you hear me?
2363
01:52:25,043 --> 01:52:26,168
You all right?
2364
01:52:26,252 --> 01:52:27,877
- It hurts, man.
- I know, man.
2365
01:52:28,961 --> 01:52:30,335
You okay?
- Yeah.
2366
01:52:30,418 --> 01:52:32,002
- All right. I don't want--
- Cut the pads off.
2367
01:52:32,085 --> 01:52:33,460
- Minimal movement, okay?
- What is this?
2368
01:52:33,543 --> 01:52:35,877
- Minimal movement.
- Okay.
2369
01:52:35,961 --> 01:52:38,126
- Hold that on your head
right there.
2370
01:52:38,210 --> 01:52:40,710
- Fractured my skull,
broke my thumb,
2371
01:52:40,794 --> 01:52:42,418
broke my pelvis.
2372
01:52:42,502 --> 01:52:44,877
I sat in bed
for about six weeks.
2373
01:52:44,961 --> 01:52:46,877
And I thought,
"Maybe this is it."
2374
01:52:46,961 --> 01:52:49,460
Everyone kept asking me,
"How long can you skate?"
2375
01:52:49,543 --> 01:52:51,877
Maybe this is the answer.
This is how long I can skate.
2376
01:52:51,961 --> 01:52:54,168
I can skate till I'm 35,
when I break my pelvis.
2377
01:52:54,252 --> 01:52:57,126
- When I got knocked out in
Australia about five years ago
2378
01:52:57,210 --> 01:52:59,126
or something,
I was asking everybody, like,
2379
01:52:59,210 --> 01:53:01,168
"How long does this
fuzziness last, you know?"
2380
01:53:01,252 --> 01:53:03,335
I'm like, "Tony, you've been
knocked out a bunch of times."
2381
01:53:03,418 --> 01:53:04,502
How long does it"--
2382
01:53:04,585 --> 01:53:05,669
He's like,
"I don't know, Mike."
2383
01:53:05,752 --> 01:53:07,669
I'm like, "How many times
you been knocked out?"
2384
01:53:07,752 --> 01:53:09,126
You know,
he couldn't even recall
2385
01:53:09,210 --> 01:53:10,418
how many times
he's been knocked out.
2386
01:53:11,794 --> 01:53:14,752
- Can you imagine
watching your dad
2387
01:53:14,835 --> 01:53:17,794
tumble down a ramp at 56?
2388
01:53:17,877 --> 01:53:19,252
- [laughs]
No.
2389
01:53:19,335 --> 01:53:20,961
- Like, we're grandparents.
2390
01:53:21,043 --> 01:53:24,585
We're grandparents
falling out of the sky.
2391
01:53:24,669 --> 01:53:26,085
- Why still push yourself
2392
01:53:26,168 --> 01:53:28,543
when there's no reward
of board sales
2393
01:53:28,627 --> 01:53:32,252
or contest winnings
or anything like that?
2394
01:53:32,335 --> 01:53:33,460
- That is the question.
2395
01:53:33,543 --> 01:53:35,085
That is the question,
why we do that.
2396
01:53:35,168 --> 01:53:37,961
I don't know.
It's just in us.
2397
01:53:38,043 --> 01:53:39,418
- Why do you think
Tony does it?
2398
01:53:39,502 --> 01:53:41,210
Why do you think
he pushes himself so hard?
2399
01:53:42,627 --> 01:53:44,877
- I think it's to impress
all of us, you know?
2400
01:53:44,961 --> 01:53:47,919
I think it's--I honestly do,
2401
01:53:48,002 --> 01:53:50,002
because, you know,
most of the world
2402
01:53:50,085 --> 01:53:53,710
that's gonna see this film
doesn't know a Madonna
2403
01:53:53,794 --> 01:53:56,210
from a McTwist
from a Caballerial.
2404
01:53:56,293 --> 01:53:57,919
But his peers do.
2405
01:53:58,002 --> 01:53:59,877
[chuckling]
And we are blown away
2406
01:53:59,961 --> 01:54:02,210
every time
we see something like this.
2407
01:54:02,293 --> 01:54:05,961
And it inspires us to go on
and do something different,
2408
01:54:06,043 --> 01:54:08,710
because that's what
skateboarding is all about.
2409
01:54:08,794 --> 01:54:11,669
[X's "Blue Spark"]
2410
01:54:11,752 --> 01:54:14,293
♪ ♪
2411
01:54:14,377 --> 01:54:18,168
- We had the 30-year reunion
of the "Animal Chin" video.
2412
01:54:18,252 --> 01:54:22,002
To commemorate that,
Tony had a replica
2413
01:54:22,085 --> 01:54:25,126
of the infamous Chin ramp
built.
2414
01:54:25,210 --> 01:54:27,919
Caballero, McGill,
Lance, Tony, myself,
2415
01:54:28,002 --> 01:54:29,543
Tommy Guerrero, Rodney Mullen,
2416
01:54:29,627 --> 01:54:31,168
and a whole bunch
of other people
2417
01:54:31,252 --> 01:54:32,794
were there to celebrate.
2418
01:54:32,877 --> 01:54:35,460
So we got to watch them
skate it again.
2419
01:54:35,543 --> 01:54:38,418
And they reproduced
all the famous tricks
2420
01:54:38,502 --> 01:54:40,043
that they did at the time.
2421
01:54:40,126 --> 01:54:42,335
♪ ♪
2422
01:54:42,418 --> 01:54:44,543
- ♪ Exchange ♪
2423
01:54:44,627 --> 01:54:47,168
- 30 years later, these guys
are doing their famous,
2424
01:54:47,252 --> 01:54:48,835
you know, four-invert shot.
2425
01:54:48,919 --> 01:54:50,210
- Can we just try?
- Eee!
2426
01:54:50,293 --> 01:54:51,669
♪ ♪
2427
01:54:51,752 --> 01:54:52,877
- This is it!
2428
01:54:52,961 --> 01:54:56,710
- One. Two. Three.
2429
01:54:56,794 --> 01:55:01,293
- ♪ Downtown ♪
2430
01:55:01,377 --> 01:55:05,460
♪ Blue spark ♪
2431
01:55:05,543 --> 01:55:07,168
- Yoo-hoo!
2432
01:55:07,252 --> 01:55:11,460
- Lock it up.
- Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!
2433
01:55:11,543 --> 01:55:14,543
- That's amazing.
That's totally amazing.
2434
01:55:14,627 --> 01:55:20,168
- ♪ Just to give hi-i-i-i-im ♪
2435
01:55:20,252 --> 01:55:22,835
♪ Blue shock ♪
2436
01:55:22,919 --> 01:55:25,210
- Yeah, Steve!
Nice!
2437
01:55:25,293 --> 01:55:28,377
- Whenever Caballero or McGill
did something
2438
01:55:28,460 --> 01:55:30,002
that was a little bit
too edgy,
2439
01:55:30,085 --> 01:55:31,752
you could see them
stop midair and,
2440
01:55:31,835 --> 01:55:33,877
"That's it. Stop."
2441
01:55:33,961 --> 01:55:35,752
Every time they'd do something
2442
01:55:35,835 --> 01:55:38,877
and it was a touch off
of what they were out,
2443
01:55:38,961 --> 01:55:41,377
they'd throw the board
and slide--knee slide.
2444
01:55:41,460 --> 01:55:42,710
You could tell there was
no messing around.
2445
01:55:42,794 --> 01:55:44,002
These guys aren't getting hurt.
2446
01:55:44,085 --> 01:55:45,669
- ♪ Blue spark ♪
2447
01:55:45,752 --> 01:55:47,168
- As the temperature
started increasing
2448
01:55:47,252 --> 01:55:48,460
and these guys
started pushing each other,
2449
01:55:48,543 --> 01:55:52,710
Tony, like always, he started
going harder and harder.
2450
01:56:00,043 --> 01:56:01,502
- Yeah!
- Oh!
2451
01:56:01,585 --> 01:56:02,710
- Oh!
2452
01:56:09,377 --> 01:56:10,794
- Just chill out.
Just chill.
2453
01:56:10,877 --> 01:56:13,210
Just chill. Just chill.
Just chill out.
2454
01:56:13,293 --> 01:56:14,877
- Tony, just chill.
Tony, just chill.
2455
01:56:14,961 --> 01:56:16,877
Just chill. Lay there.
Stay there.
2456
01:56:16,961 --> 01:56:19,710
- Just kick back.
Kick back. Kick back.
2457
01:56:19,794 --> 01:56:22,961
Here.
- Hey.
2458
01:56:23,043 --> 01:56:24,543
- There you go.
2459
01:56:35,627 --> 01:56:37,085
- What is your name?
2460
01:56:40,835 --> 01:56:43,543
Wait, wait, wait.
What's your name?
2461
01:56:43,627 --> 01:56:44,961
- Tony Hawk.
2462
01:56:49,043 --> 01:56:51,126
- All of us just gasped.
It's like, "Oh, my God."
2463
01:56:51,210 --> 01:56:54,126
He's down there, laying there,
dead still.
2464
01:57:17,835 --> 01:57:20,252
He got himself up off the ramp
after about five minutes,
2465
01:57:20,335 --> 01:57:22,293
and then he went and sat down
at the bottom of the ramp,
2466
01:57:22,377 --> 01:57:24,377
and he just sat there.
2467
01:57:24,460 --> 01:57:26,585
- There's some water
right here.
2468
01:57:26,669 --> 01:57:31,293
- His hair was, like,
Einstein-y, pitch-white skin,
2469
01:57:31,377 --> 01:57:33,043
and he looked 70 years old.
2470
01:57:33,126 --> 01:57:35,210
It was shocking.
It was really scary.
2471
01:57:35,293 --> 01:57:38,794
And I sat there going, "Man,
you can't do this at this age.
2472
01:57:38,877 --> 01:57:43,335
You can't put yourself in that
kind of danger at this age,"
2473
01:57:43,418 --> 01:57:45,377
especially with the career
he's had.
2474
01:57:45,460 --> 01:57:47,835
And it really,
really troubled me.
2475
01:57:47,919 --> 01:57:49,669
And I went and had
a really long conversation
2476
01:57:49,752 --> 01:57:50,961
with Sean Mortimer afterwards,
2477
01:57:51,043 --> 01:57:52,961
saying, "Look, somebody's
gotta talk to Tony.
2478
01:57:53,043 --> 01:57:54,377
He can't let this happen."
2479
01:57:54,460 --> 01:57:55,752
I talked to Steve Hawk.
2480
01:57:55,835 --> 01:57:57,335
I called Steve Hawk
on the phone.
2481
01:57:57,418 --> 01:57:59,669
And I'm going,
"Steve, Tony's gotta be told
2482
01:57:59,752 --> 01:58:01,460
he can't do this."
2483
01:58:01,543 --> 01:58:02,794
But I couldn't get any takers.
2484
01:58:02,877 --> 01:58:04,627
I couldn't get anybody
to, like--
2485
01:58:04,710 --> 01:58:06,085
guys, you've got to--
2486
01:58:06,168 --> 01:58:07,627
there's got to be
an intervention here.
2487
01:58:07,710 --> 01:58:09,877
I mean, come on!
2488
01:58:09,961 --> 01:58:12,377
That's not a bad concussion.
2489
01:58:12,460 --> 01:58:15,460
That's a disaster, you know?
2490
01:58:23,627 --> 01:58:26,043
- I don't know
what I think about it.
2491
01:58:26,126 --> 01:58:28,585
I think it's no one's place
to say that to him.
2492
01:58:30,627 --> 01:58:32,627
- Okay.
So what do you mean?
2493
01:58:34,252 --> 01:58:35,460
- I don't know.
2494
01:58:37,835 --> 01:58:39,002
He doesn't unders--
2495
01:58:40,293 --> 01:58:42,168
He doesn't even understand
2496
01:58:42,252 --> 01:58:44,293
that we're gonna probably
die skateboarding
2497
01:58:44,377 --> 01:58:45,502
and kill ourselves.
2498
01:58:45,585 --> 01:58:48,210
It's something
you can't change.
2499
01:58:50,752 --> 01:58:51,877
I can't sleep.
2500
01:58:53,210 --> 01:58:56,252
I can't sleep on my shoulders.
It's terrible.
2501
01:58:56,335 --> 01:58:57,543
It's horrible.
2502
01:58:57,627 --> 01:59:00,710
You're actually destroying
yourself on what you love.
2503
01:59:00,794 --> 01:59:04,585
But it's not--it's too late,
first of all,
2504
01:59:04,669 --> 01:59:06,543
to be concerned about, like,
2505
01:59:06,627 --> 01:59:08,002
"Oh, it's time for us
to slow down."
2506
01:59:08,085 --> 01:59:09,377
Like, I don't know.
I don't know to--
2507
01:59:09,460 --> 01:59:11,752
I don't know
how to react to that.
2508
01:59:11,835 --> 01:59:13,919
He's right, but I don't know
how to react to it.
2509
01:59:17,460 --> 01:59:19,543
- I worry a lot that he's--
2510
01:59:19,627 --> 01:59:21,460
that he will really
hurt himself.
2511
01:59:21,543 --> 01:59:22,585
Some of the stuff he's done,
2512
01:59:22,669 --> 01:59:25,043
if something went wrong,
he could have died for sure.
2513
01:59:25,126 --> 01:59:27,377
And that scares
the fuck out of me.
2514
01:59:27,460 --> 01:59:31,210
- The abuse their bodies
are taking is pretty absurd.
2515
01:59:31,293 --> 01:59:32,835
Like, Tony is just--
2516
01:59:32,919 --> 01:59:35,961
Tony and Lance might be
the most battered dudes,
2517
01:59:36,043 --> 01:59:37,126
like, of all of them.
2518
01:59:37,210 --> 01:59:39,085
Tony especially, man, he's--
2519
01:59:39,168 --> 01:59:40,293
you've seen his fingers.
2520
01:59:40,377 --> 01:59:41,961
They're all fucking
out of socket.
2521
01:59:42,043 --> 01:59:43,794
And just--
his shins are all fucked up.
2522
01:59:43,877 --> 01:59:46,168
He tried the full pipe,
2523
01:59:46,252 --> 01:59:50,085
and--but he gets
so fucking slammed.
2524
01:59:50,168 --> 01:59:51,460
But he continues.
2525
01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:54,669
- Yeah, it's foolish.
2526
01:59:54,752 --> 01:59:57,418
It's foolish
what we've done to ourselves.
2527
01:59:57,502 --> 02:00:00,752
Tony--a lot of us.
It's foolish.
2528
02:00:00,835 --> 02:00:02,710
We're gonna live
in absolute pain.
2529
02:00:04,835 --> 02:00:07,669
I've had so many concussions.
I know I have.
2530
02:00:09,460 --> 02:00:11,085
You know.
2531
02:00:11,168 --> 02:00:12,794
I know I have what those
football players have,
2532
02:00:12,877 --> 02:00:14,919
and I'm probably gonna have
a brain tumor like my dad.
2533
02:00:15,002 --> 02:00:16,210
I'm sure of it.
2534
02:00:16,293 --> 02:00:17,460
And it's because...
2535
02:00:19,919 --> 02:00:24,335
We were stupid skateboarding
and we got injured.
2536
02:00:24,418 --> 02:00:26,627
It is what it is.
[laughs]
2537
02:00:26,710 --> 02:00:30,502
He is going to probably get
another gnarly concussion.
2538
02:00:30,585 --> 02:00:32,377
He's probably gonna
break another bone.
2539
02:00:32,460 --> 02:00:33,835
He's probably gonna
get to the point
2540
02:00:33,919 --> 02:00:37,210
where his body
will not let him do it.
2541
02:00:37,293 --> 02:00:39,126
And that's the way
we're gonna go.
2542
02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:41,043
Stupid?
Yes.
2543
02:00:41,126 --> 02:00:45,210
- Maybe it's, like, not smart.
I don't know.
2544
02:00:45,293 --> 02:00:49,168
But we forget about, you know,
the pain and the suffering
2545
02:00:49,252 --> 02:00:52,126
that we go through
to get to that next level.
2546
02:00:52,210 --> 02:00:53,919
And I think it's those people
that are afraid
2547
02:00:54,002 --> 02:00:56,669
to go through that,
2548
02:00:56,752 --> 02:00:58,502
you know,
that pain and suffering,
2549
02:00:58,585 --> 02:01:01,377
that never amount to anything
2550
02:01:01,460 --> 02:01:05,543
than just a normal, safe life,
you know?
2551
02:01:05,627 --> 02:01:10,543
We don't live
in those parameters, you know.
2552
02:01:10,627 --> 02:01:14,043
- There's consequences
to everything we do.
2553
02:01:14,126 --> 02:01:18,002
But when you tap--tiptoe
around the consequences...
2554
02:01:20,418 --> 02:01:21,835
Tony was having consequen--
2555
02:01:21,919 --> 02:01:23,543
he would never have
reached what he did
2556
02:01:23,627 --> 02:01:26,669
if he listened to those
consequences things back then.
2557
02:01:29,627 --> 02:01:32,543
"You're too small.
You can't get to the top.
2558
02:01:32,627 --> 02:01:34,293
"You do it weird.
We don't like you.
2559
02:01:34,377 --> 02:01:36,585
Here's a beer can in the"--
what?
2560
02:01:36,669 --> 02:01:37,835
We all would have stopped
2561
02:01:37,919 --> 02:01:40,085
if we'd listened
to anybody telling us, like,
2562
02:01:40,168 --> 02:01:42,377
"You know, there's gonna be
a cost to this."
2563
02:01:46,502 --> 02:01:49,168
And some are gonna pay more.
2564
02:01:49,252 --> 02:01:53,418
- This is the luxury
of having spent my life
2565
02:01:53,502 --> 02:01:55,543
doing what I love.
2566
02:01:55,627 --> 02:01:57,377
The cost of that...
2567
02:02:00,168 --> 02:02:01,710
It sucks.
2568
02:02:04,293 --> 02:02:06,043
I'm not blind.
2569
02:02:07,460 --> 02:02:10,835
I'm not numb to the pain.
2570
02:02:10,919 --> 02:02:12,543
I would argue
I'm more conscious of it
2571
02:02:12,627 --> 02:02:14,377
than anybody else.
2572
02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:17,835
But I'm also more conscious
of what that gives me.
2573
02:02:17,919 --> 02:02:20,877
[somber music]
2574
02:02:20,961 --> 02:02:24,293
And when I'm done with this...
2575
02:02:24,377 --> 02:02:25,835
♪ ♪
2576
02:02:25,919 --> 02:02:30,293
That will be what it is,
and I'll find a way.
2577
02:02:30,377 --> 02:02:33,794
But there's something
inside of me propelling
2578
02:02:33,877 --> 02:02:38,585
that I'm not going to give up
until the wheels fall off.
2579
02:02:38,669 --> 02:02:41,627
That's what I'm made of.
2580
02:02:41,710 --> 02:02:45,418
And I wish--I see all
the arguments against it.
2581
02:02:45,502 --> 02:02:49,335
But I wish I could relate
the intangibles to you.
2582
02:02:51,418 --> 02:02:55,252
My guess is that
we're all built the same.
2583
02:02:55,335 --> 02:02:58,335
None of us are
completely stupid.
2584
02:02:58,418 --> 02:03:00,794
A little deranged,
I think a strong argument.
2585
02:03:00,877 --> 02:03:03,126
I do.
2586
02:03:03,210 --> 02:03:05,877
But ultimately,
2587
02:03:05,961 --> 02:03:09,126
we also know what we have.
2588
02:03:09,210 --> 02:03:11,877
And to go and lay down
in that sense of it...
2589
02:03:11,961 --> 02:03:15,293
♪ ♪
2590
02:03:15,377 --> 02:03:19,377
That's like embracing
what we've done with our lives.
2591
02:03:19,460 --> 02:03:20,877
You know?
2592
02:03:20,961 --> 02:03:27,919
♪ ♪
2593
02:04:03,293 --> 02:04:06,502
- I found this thing
that I've loved
2594
02:04:06,585 --> 02:04:08,835
more than anything else
that I've tried
2595
02:04:08,919 --> 02:04:10,377
or done in my life.
2596
02:04:10,460 --> 02:04:12,877
♪ ♪
2597
02:04:12,961 --> 02:04:16,460
I found my purpose
and my salvation.
2598
02:04:18,085 --> 02:04:23,002
And in some ways,
I found my emotional highs.
2599
02:04:25,919 --> 02:04:29,377
I'm still trying
to push my limits.
2600
02:04:32,168 --> 02:04:36,002
I don't know how long
this will last.
2601
02:04:36,085 --> 02:04:38,794
But I'm not gonna quit.
2602
02:04:38,877 --> 02:04:45,835
♪ ♪
2603
02:05:51,752 --> 02:05:54,669
[Oingo Boingo's "Only a Lad"]
2604
02:05:54,752 --> 02:06:01,710
♪ ♪
2605
02:06:20,210 --> 02:06:21,919
- ♪ Johnny was bad ♪
2606
02:06:22,002 --> 02:06:25,460
♪ Even as a child,
everybody could tell ♪
2607
02:06:25,543 --> 02:06:27,835
♪ Everyone said,
"If you don't get straight ♪
2608
02:06:27,919 --> 02:06:29,418
♪ You'll surely go to hell" ♪
2609
02:06:29,502 --> 02:06:31,168
♪ ♪
2610
02:06:31,252 --> 02:06:32,752
♪ But Johnny didn't care ♪
2611
02:06:32,835 --> 02:06:35,377
♪ He was an outlaw by the time
that he was ten years old ♪
2612
02:06:35,460 --> 02:06:37,543
♪ He didn't want to do
what he was told ♪
2613
02:06:37,627 --> 02:06:39,877
♪ Just a prankster ♪
2614
02:06:39,961 --> 02:06:41,877
♪ A juvenile gangster ♪
2615
02:06:41,961 --> 02:06:43,377
♪ His teachers
didn't understand ♪
2616
02:06:43,460 --> 02:06:44,502
♪ They kicked him
out of school ♪
2617
02:06:44,585 --> 02:06:46,377
♪ At a tender early age
just because ♪
2618
02:06:46,460 --> 02:06:48,669
♪ He didn't want
to learn things ♪
2619
02:06:48,752 --> 02:06:49,752
♪ Had other interests ♪
2620
02:06:49,835 --> 02:06:51,210
♪ ♪
2621
02:06:51,293 --> 02:06:53,043
♪ He liked to burn things ♪
2622
02:06:53,126 --> 02:07:00,126
♪ ♪
2623
02:07:03,752 --> 02:07:05,669
♪ The lady down the block,
she had a radio ♪
2624
02:07:05,752 --> 02:07:07,502
♪ That Johnny wanted,
oh, so bad ♪
2625
02:07:07,585 --> 02:07:09,669
♪ So he took it
the first chance he had ♪
2626
02:07:09,752 --> 02:07:11,210
♪ And then he shot her
in the leg ♪
2627
02:07:11,293 --> 02:07:12,543
♪ ♪
2628
02:07:12,627 --> 02:07:13,961
♪ But this is what she said ♪
2629
02:07:14,043 --> 02:07:15,293
- ♪ He's only a lad ♪
2630
02:07:15,377 --> 02:07:16,627
- ♪ You really
can't blame him ♪
2631
02:07:16,710 --> 02:07:17,794
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2632
02:07:17,877 --> 02:07:19,543
- ♪ Society made him ♪
2633
02:07:19,627 --> 02:07:20,585
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2634
02:07:20,669 --> 02:07:22,585
- ♪ He's our responsibility ♪
2635
02:07:22,669 --> 02:07:24,627
♪ Oh, oh, whoa, whoa ♪
2636
02:07:24,710 --> 02:07:25,877
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2637
02:07:25,961 --> 02:07:27,252
- ♪ He really
couldn't help it ♪
2638
02:07:27,335 --> 02:07:28,585
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2639
02:07:28,669 --> 02:07:29,877
- ♪ He didn't want to do it ♪
2640
02:07:29,961 --> 02:07:31,252
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2641
02:07:31,335 --> 02:07:33,252
- ♪ He's underprivileged
and abused ♪
2642
02:07:33,335 --> 02:07:35,210
♪ Perhaps a little bit
confused ♪
2643
02:07:35,293 --> 02:07:36,919
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
2644
02:07:37,002 --> 02:07:40,210
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
2645
02:07:40,293 --> 02:07:41,919
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
2646
02:07:42,002 --> 02:07:43,168
♪ ♪
2647
02:07:43,252 --> 02:07:47,002
♪ Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
2648
02:07:47,085 --> 02:07:54,043
♪ ♪
2649
02:08:19,043 --> 02:08:20,752
♪ His parents gave up ♪
2650
02:08:20,835 --> 02:08:23,085
♪ They couldn't influence
his attitude ♪
2651
02:08:23,168 --> 02:08:24,585
♪ ♪
2652
02:08:24,669 --> 02:08:25,919
♪ Nobody could help ♪
2653
02:08:26,002 --> 02:08:28,460
♪ The little man
had no gratitude ♪
2654
02:08:28,543 --> 02:08:30,252
♪ ♪
2655
02:08:30,335 --> 02:08:31,752
♪ And when he stole the car ♪
2656
02:08:31,835 --> 02:08:34,252
♪ Nobody dreamed that he would
try to take it so far ♪
2657
02:08:34,335 --> 02:08:36,877
♪ He didn't mean
to hit the poor man ♪
2658
02:08:36,961 --> 02:08:39,460
♪ Who had to go and die ♪
2659
02:08:39,543 --> 02:08:40,877
♪ It made the judge cry ♪
2660
02:08:40,961 --> 02:08:42,335
- ♪ Only a lad ♪
2661
02:08:42,418 --> 02:08:43,835
- ♪ He really
couldn't help it ♪
2662
02:08:49,585 --> 02:08:51,835
[bright tone]