1 00:00:07,789 --> 00:00:08,964 - I dreamed about a guy 2 00:00:09,008 --> 00:00:11,054 in a dirty red and green sweater. 3 00:00:11,097 --> 00:00:13,056 He's horribly burned. 4 00:00:13,099 --> 00:00:14,796 - Freddy was different because we got to see 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,928 the actual monster. 6 00:00:17,234 --> 00:00:18,713 - Come to Freddy. 7 00:00:18,757 --> 00:00:21,542 - He wears a dirty brown hat. 8 00:00:21,586 --> 00:00:22,935 - He's got a cool look. 9 00:00:22,978 --> 00:00:24,110 I mean, even though he's all burnt up, 10 00:00:24,154 --> 00:00:25,720 he's got the hat. - He's got style. 11 00:00:25,764 --> 00:00:28,593 - He has razors on his right hand. 12 00:00:28,636 --> 00:00:31,074 - Nobody but Freddy could have that glove. 13 00:00:32,118 --> 00:00:34,294 - His name is Freddy Krueger. 14 00:00:34,338 --> 00:00:37,210 - Wes calls Freddy the bastard father of us all. 15 00:00:37,254 --> 00:00:40,083 - You are all my children now. 16 00:00:40,126 --> 00:00:41,910 - He was so bad to the bone. 17 00:00:41,954 --> 00:00:44,652 - And he's also so easily quotable. 18 00:00:46,176 --> 00:00:49,222 - Welcome to primetime, bitch. 19 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:52,921 - His commentary became like the main attraction. 20 00:00:52,965 --> 00:00:54,314 - How's this for a wet dream? 21 00:00:54,358 --> 00:00:56,142 - He wasn't hiding behind a mask. 22 00:00:56,186 --> 00:00:57,404 He was being sassy. 23 00:00:57,448 --> 00:00:59,754 He was playing with these victims. 24 00:00:59,798 --> 00:01:00,755 - Let's get high. 25 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:02,322 - I mean, did anyone ever think 26 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:04,324 that movie was going to be a big deal? 27 00:01:04,368 --> 00:01:05,760 Not really. 28 00:01:05,804 --> 00:01:07,414 - Just a marvelous creation by Wes Craven. 29 00:01:07,458 --> 00:01:11,244 - So iconic, never going to look at a red and green sweater 30 00:01:11,288 --> 00:01:12,941 and think Christmas anymore. 31 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:14,769 I only think Freddy Krueger. 32 00:01:14,813 --> 00:01:16,293 - He'll be scary forever. 33 00:01:38,576 --> 00:01:41,274 - When "Nightmare on Elm Street" came out in 1984, 34 00:01:41,318 --> 00:01:43,058 no one was really expecting it. 35 00:01:43,102 --> 00:01:44,625 - Freddy just came out of the blue and it's like, 36 00:01:44,669 --> 00:01:46,801 what the F is this? 37 00:01:52,242 --> 00:01:53,460 - The idea that someone in your dreams 38 00:01:53,504 --> 00:01:54,374 is going to kill you? 39 00:01:56,115 --> 00:01:59,684 I just don't think that idea ever becomes not scary. 40 00:01:59,727 --> 00:02:01,686 And that's Freddy Krueger. 41 00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:08,301 - Freddy is a demon, he is a spirit. 42 00:02:08,345 --> 00:02:11,086 He is unknowable and unstoppable 43 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:13,828 because he doesn't exist in our realm. 44 00:02:19,269 --> 00:02:20,835 - Freddy likes to torment his victims 45 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:23,664 with whatever their particular flaw or fear is. 46 00:02:23,708 --> 00:02:25,013 He likes to exploit that. 47 00:02:32,717 --> 00:02:35,198 - Freddy operates on a lot of levels as a character, 48 00:02:35,241 --> 00:02:39,245 as a symbol, he's whispered about, and he's hinted at. 49 00:02:39,289 --> 00:02:40,507 The children have heard of him. 50 00:02:40,551 --> 00:02:42,205 - He was a filthy child murderer 51 00:02:42,248 --> 00:02:44,250 who killed at least 20 kids in the neighborhood. 52 00:02:44,294 --> 00:02:48,254 - The specter has infiltrated their imaginations. 53 00:02:48,298 --> 00:02:52,519 He's manifested in the dreams and in the nightmares. 54 00:02:52,563 --> 00:02:57,263 - Whatever you do, don't fall asleep. 55 00:02:57,307 --> 00:02:59,222 - And that's where he can do his damage. 56 00:03:05,271 --> 00:03:05,967 - No! 57 00:03:10,189 --> 00:03:12,365 - There's something horrific about having a mask on 58 00:03:12,409 --> 00:03:13,932 that hides all features, you know, 59 00:03:13,975 --> 00:03:15,542 you don't know what's behind it, 60 00:03:15,586 --> 00:03:16,891 but I think the better horror icon 61 00:03:16,935 --> 00:03:19,459 is somebody like Freddy who's got a backstory. 62 00:03:20,591 --> 00:03:22,245 He was a child molester killer. 63 00:03:22,288 --> 00:03:25,160 He gets captured and tried and let off on a loophole. 64 00:03:25,204 --> 00:03:27,250 He gets out, the parents go after him, 65 00:03:27,293 --> 00:03:28,599 and they burn him alive. 66 00:03:28,642 --> 00:03:30,296 And then his ghost essentially comes back 67 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:32,559 and kills all the children on Elm Street. 68 00:03:32,603 --> 00:03:35,649 - Tina! 69 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:36,911 - The beginning of "Nightmare on Elm Street" 70 00:03:36,955 --> 00:03:39,392 really came to me with a series of articles 71 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:42,308 in the "LA Times" about young men who were dying 72 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:43,614 in the middle of nightmares. 73 00:03:45,006 --> 00:03:47,095 - The famous case was about the young boy, 74 00:03:47,139 --> 00:03:48,923 teenager who died and he said, 75 00:03:48,967 --> 00:03:50,316 "I'm having these night terrors" 76 00:03:52,144 --> 00:03:54,494 and had a coffee pot and was trying not to go to sleep 77 00:03:54,538 --> 00:03:56,104 because he was afraid he was going to die in his sleep. 78 00:03:56,148 --> 00:03:57,454 And everybody was like, 79 00:03:57,497 --> 00:03:59,934 you just need to go to sleep, you're overtired. 80 00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:01,022 And he died in his sleep. 81 00:04:02,372 --> 00:04:04,504 - So, it was clear this guy saw it coming, 82 00:04:04,548 --> 00:04:05,636 knew what was going to happen if he slept, 83 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:07,028 tried desperately to stay awake 84 00:04:07,072 --> 00:04:10,336 and I just thought, wow, it moved me. 85 00:04:10,380 --> 00:04:14,949 - I think that really blew my dad's mind. 86 00:04:14,993 --> 00:04:19,824 You know, he had crazy dreams. 87 00:04:21,216 --> 00:04:25,177 He was really driven by his own demons. 88 00:04:25,220 --> 00:04:27,527 And I think when he heard about that kid, 89 00:04:27,571 --> 00:04:30,225 he thought that could have been me. 90 00:04:30,269 --> 00:04:33,664 - You know, Tina, she dreamed this was going to happen. 91 00:04:35,013 --> 00:04:35,709 - What? 92 00:04:37,363 --> 00:04:41,324 - She had a nightmare that someone was trying to kill her. 93 00:04:44,283 --> 00:04:46,459 - Freddy's origins, they're sort of multifarious. 94 00:04:46,503 --> 00:04:51,246 There was a kid named Freddy who was kind of my nemesis 95 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:54,467 in elementary school and he was a big kid 96 00:04:54,511 --> 00:04:55,990 and he would beat me up. 97 00:04:56,034 --> 00:04:58,341 So, the name Fred, Freddy, to me, 98 00:04:58,384 --> 00:04:59,907 was like one of those names 99 00:04:59,951 --> 00:05:03,041 that just brings up all these bad memories, you know? 100 00:05:03,084 --> 00:05:04,651 And then there was this incident, 101 00:05:04,695 --> 00:05:08,873 this kind of famous incident now of myself as a child, 102 00:05:08,916 --> 00:05:11,005 I'm lying in bed at night. 103 00:05:11,049 --> 00:05:15,706 I crept to the window and there was this man, you know, 104 00:05:17,098 --> 00:05:19,274 overcoat and that sort of fedora hat. 105 00:05:19,318 --> 00:05:23,017 And somehow he sensed that somebody was watching, 106 00:05:23,061 --> 00:05:24,410 he looked right up into my eyes 107 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:25,846 and I was just more terrified 108 00:05:25,890 --> 00:05:27,761 than I can ever remember being. 109 00:05:29,154 --> 00:05:30,547 The thing that struck me most was 110 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:33,419 that he had a lot of malice in his face 111 00:05:33,463 --> 00:05:36,422 and he also had this sort of sick sense of humor 112 00:05:36,466 --> 00:05:40,383 about how delightful it was to terrify a child. 113 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:43,603 So, that was kind of the look. 114 00:05:43,647 --> 00:05:46,780 And then what would the weapon be? 115 00:05:46,824 --> 00:05:49,609 "Friday the 13th" had already been out and "Halloween" 116 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:51,611 so there was a lot of killers with masks 117 00:05:51,655 --> 00:05:53,396 and with some sort of an edged weapon. 118 00:05:54,962 --> 00:05:56,921 So I said, okay, what's the earliest weapon 119 00:05:58,357 --> 00:05:59,793 that mankind might've been afraid of 120 00:05:59,837 --> 00:06:02,143 and well the weapon of an animal. 121 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:03,536 So I thought, okay, 122 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:04,972 it'll be basically a hand with claws on it. 123 00:06:05,016 --> 00:06:05,756 Perfect. 124 00:06:07,671 --> 00:06:08,411 - Who are you? 125 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:16,462 - Wes described it to me as something 126 00:06:16,506 --> 00:06:18,464 that he could make an a boiler room. 127 00:06:18,508 --> 00:06:19,944 I kind of knew what that meant. 128 00:06:19,987 --> 00:06:21,554 This guy was going to be a tinkerer. 129 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:23,643 He was going to be able to work with copper and steel. 130 00:06:23,687 --> 00:06:25,471 He was going to be good at soldering and welding. 131 00:06:25,515 --> 00:06:29,562 So, that sort of gave me an idea, 132 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:31,129 probably going to go brass or copper, 133 00:06:33,305 --> 00:06:34,959 partly because of the look, 134 00:06:35,002 --> 00:06:37,831 partly because of the way you can work it. 135 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,833 I did a little sketch for him and kind of showed him 136 00:06:39,877 --> 00:06:41,139 how it would work. 137 00:06:41,182 --> 00:06:42,923 He said, "Fine, let's pursue this." 138 00:06:42,967 --> 00:06:45,839 They figured out where the joints really needed to be. 139 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:48,102 What's the articulation going to be like? 140 00:06:48,146 --> 00:06:51,279 They have to be as articulate as your hand is. 141 00:06:51,323 --> 00:06:54,108 We went through a lot of different shapes on the knives, 142 00:06:54,152 --> 00:06:56,937 everything, you know, to like cut down buck knives 143 00:06:56,981 --> 00:06:58,461 to all sorts of different things. 144 00:06:58,504 --> 00:06:59,984 A lot of them were way too heavy. 145 00:07:01,376 --> 00:07:03,291 A lot of them were curved the wrong way. 146 00:07:03,335 --> 00:07:05,990 They couldn't be turned upside down, but we were still, 147 00:07:06,033 --> 00:07:08,862 you know, tiger claw, long fingernails. 148 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,126 He kept making this gesture. 149 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:16,827 And so, that meant to me that this curve had to go this way. 150 00:07:18,829 --> 00:07:20,787 It wasn't going to do this. 151 00:07:20,831 --> 00:07:21,701 It was going to do this. 152 00:07:23,703 --> 00:07:25,400 We made one hero, one metal. 153 00:07:27,185 --> 00:07:31,711 We made a stunt glove that was basically all plastic 154 00:07:33,365 --> 00:07:35,498 and it had wooden blades. 155 00:07:35,541 --> 00:07:36,977 So, they'd break off. 156 00:07:37,021 --> 00:07:39,632 We had made a stunt glove with plastic blades 157 00:07:39,676 --> 00:07:41,852 that had like Mylar on the fingers 158 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,158 that you saw and all the background shots. 159 00:07:44,202 --> 00:07:46,378 And then we made one glove 160 00:07:46,421 --> 00:07:49,512 that was metal with plastic blades 161 00:07:49,555 --> 00:07:53,994 that he would use any time he was just far enough off camera 162 00:07:54,038 --> 00:07:56,257 or the stunt coordinator wanted something 163 00:07:56,301 --> 00:07:58,869 that was close enough, but that wouldn't hurt anybody. 164 00:07:58,912 --> 00:08:00,523 But there was only one metal version. 165 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:04,178 It wasn't designed to be an icon. 166 00:08:04,222 --> 00:08:07,573 It was just designed to be a tool for this character 167 00:08:07,617 --> 00:08:11,534 and instead, he became an icon with this thing. 168 00:08:13,623 --> 00:08:15,581 - I just loved it so much. 169 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:18,541 On one level, the claw extends Freddy. 170 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:25,025 It extends his anger, 171 00:08:25,069 --> 00:08:27,724 his revenge, and it's a little larger than life. 172 00:08:27,767 --> 00:08:30,465 I think all those elements have combined 173 00:08:30,509 --> 00:08:35,470 to kind of make it symbolic and evil. 174 00:08:35,514 --> 00:08:38,691 - It's such a powerful idea and a powerful image 175 00:08:38,735 --> 00:08:41,085 because we haven't really seen anything like that before. 176 00:08:41,128 --> 00:08:43,783 We've seen claws and we've seen sharp knives 177 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:46,264 and we've seen chainsaws and we've seen everything else, 178 00:08:46,307 --> 00:08:50,268 but we haven't seen that extension of the person 179 00:08:50,311 --> 00:08:54,577 doing the killing become like a part of them. 180 00:08:57,667 --> 00:09:00,713 - Die! 181 00:09:00,757 --> 00:09:02,933 - How the glove transformed me, 182 00:09:02,976 --> 00:09:05,631 how the glove affected me was it's heavy. 183 00:09:05,675 --> 00:09:10,331 And when I put it on, one shoulder dropped a bit like this 184 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:15,641 and it affected my movement and it affected my posture. 185 00:09:15,685 --> 00:09:18,775 And I immediately thought it's like having a holster, 186 00:09:20,341 --> 00:09:22,082 it's like reaching for the gun. 187 00:09:22,126 --> 00:09:26,652 So, that posture became signature for Freddy Krueger. 188 00:09:26,696 --> 00:09:29,437 - The first time that Robert put the glove on 189 00:09:29,481 --> 00:09:30,787 and he sort of hurt himself, 190 00:09:32,484 --> 00:09:33,616 tink, tink, cut himself a little bit with everybody did. 191 00:09:33,659 --> 00:09:35,269 And he goes, "Ow!" 192 00:09:35,313 --> 00:09:36,357 And then he goes, "Ha." 193 00:09:39,796 --> 00:09:42,668 And we were like, cool, good to go. 194 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:45,149 And that was just his face, no makeup. 195 00:09:45,192 --> 00:09:46,629 - Well, the interesting thing about Freddy 196 00:09:46,672 --> 00:09:49,762 is he was originally conceived as a dirty old man. 197 00:09:49,806 --> 00:09:52,460 - They wanted a very big man to play the part 198 00:09:52,504 --> 00:09:54,637 and he was to be mute, he wouldn't speak at all. 199 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,160 - David Warner was one of the actors 200 00:09:56,203 --> 00:09:57,683 they were talking to about it. 201 00:09:57,727 --> 00:09:59,685 He was thought of as this much older character. 202 00:09:59,729 --> 00:10:03,863 - And I went in and I was sort of in my punk rock stage 203 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:06,649 at that time, my hair was a lot blonder 204 00:10:06,692 --> 00:10:09,956 and I penciled circles under my eyes 205 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,959 and I wore all black and I played a staring game 206 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:16,136 with director Wes Craven as he told the story to me. 207 00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:18,661 - And he was able to put himself 208 00:10:18,704 --> 00:10:20,706 into the position of being evil. 209 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,056 And it brought out that wonderful thing about Freddy 210 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:26,712 of it's the guy in the sidewalk, frightening the kid. 211 00:10:26,756 --> 00:10:31,499 - I did kind of get what he was going for. 212 00:10:31,543 --> 00:10:34,546 We were on the same playing field with our understanding. 213 00:10:34,589 --> 00:10:36,330 - So, I said, "Okay, fine. 214 00:10:36,374 --> 00:10:37,723 "This might not work, 215 00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:39,986 but I will try it with this younger guy." 216 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:42,380 The rest was makeup and once the makeup was on him, 217 00:10:42,423 --> 00:10:43,729 you didn't know how old he was anyway. 218 00:10:43,773 --> 00:10:45,688 I was like, "Duh, what was I thinking?" 219 00:10:46,776 --> 00:10:47,820 - And then you add 220 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:49,169 that makeup to him. - Right. 221 00:10:49,213 --> 00:10:50,997 - There's something about that, 222 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:53,870 he really is the epitome 223 00:10:53,913 --> 00:10:57,569 of the serial killer turned horror icon 224 00:10:57,612 --> 00:11:01,181 because he does not hide behind a mask. 225 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:02,835 He is himself. 226 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:04,358 - Please God. 227 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:05,055 - This, 228 00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:07,100 is God. 229 00:11:08,232 --> 00:11:09,581 - In the original script, 230 00:11:09,624 --> 00:11:12,236 he's hideously burned and disfigured. 231 00:11:12,279 --> 00:11:14,281 I mean, it's less than $2 million budget. 232 00:11:14,325 --> 00:11:19,025 You've got to reproduce it 25 times 233 00:11:19,069 --> 00:11:21,201 over the course of your schedule. 234 00:11:21,245 --> 00:11:24,204 I think that what they came up with based on the structure 235 00:11:24,248 --> 00:11:27,947 of Robert Englund's face is brilliant and it's so iconic. 236 00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:29,557 - I worked on "Nightmare on Elm Street" one 237 00:11:29,601 --> 00:11:31,124 in Dave Miller's garage. 238 00:11:31,168 --> 00:11:32,865 So, I got to see how the makeup was designed, 239 00:11:32,909 --> 00:11:33,866 which was very clever. 240 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:36,608 It was a two layer application. 241 00:11:36,651 --> 00:11:38,218 The first layer that went on Robert's skin 242 00:11:38,262 --> 00:11:39,872 was all this burned flesh. 243 00:11:39,916 --> 00:11:42,745 But over that, was an additional layer of like 244 00:11:42,788 --> 00:11:45,225 almost like melted cheese on pizza, 245 00:11:45,269 --> 00:11:47,227 stringy pieces that went over that, 246 00:11:47,271 --> 00:11:50,578 that you could look through to see the under structure. 247 00:11:50,622 --> 00:11:52,058 - And it was like all new to me. 248 00:11:52,102 --> 00:11:54,452 I mean, it was an adventure and part of me got 249 00:11:54,495 --> 00:11:57,411 a little scared and it is rather claustrophobic 250 00:11:57,455 --> 00:11:58,151 the first time. 251 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:03,156 - The first time I saw Robert in the makeup 252 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,593 where I really got the full import of Freddy Krueger 253 00:12:05,637 --> 00:12:08,596 was on the set in the scene where I'm in school 254 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,164 and I go down the steps into the boiler room of the school 255 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:11,948 and he comes out 256 00:12:13,036 --> 00:12:13,776 - Tina? 257 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:19,085 - And it hit me with full force. 258 00:12:19,129 --> 00:12:20,826 Like that is a scary character. 259 00:12:26,832 --> 00:12:28,442 But up until that moment, 260 00:12:28,486 --> 00:12:29,704 I hadn't really given much thought to Freddy Krueger. 261 00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:31,794 I didn't really think the movie was going 262 00:12:31,837 --> 00:12:35,841 to make him into a star. 263 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:41,368 - Let's face it, like your nightmares 264 00:12:41,412 --> 00:12:43,806 are just your brain turning on yourself. 265 00:12:43,849 --> 00:12:47,200 It's all of your intellect and everything that you know 266 00:12:47,244 --> 00:12:51,378 and fear about the world, turning on you. 267 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:53,554 And I think that's who Freddy is to Wes. 268 00:12:53,598 --> 00:12:56,949 This is the kind of dark side of his brain, 269 00:12:56,993 --> 00:12:58,995 carried by Robert Englund 270 00:12:59,038 --> 00:13:02,999 who brought his Shakespearean wherewithal 271 00:13:03,042 --> 00:13:05,871 and his wit and his talents 272 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:08,831 to create an incredibly scary 273 00:13:08,874 --> 00:13:11,485 and yet compelling and charismatic character. 274 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:13,400 - Everything about that character from the way 275 00:13:13,444 --> 00:13:16,316 the makeup works to the way Robert speaks. 276 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,362 - Now, you die. 277 00:13:20,016 --> 00:13:22,366 - It brings that character to life in what is probably 278 00:13:22,409 --> 00:13:24,324 the most terrifying way they could have. 279 00:13:24,368 --> 00:13:26,892 - Freddy wasn't functioning like the other ones 280 00:13:26,936 --> 00:13:29,764 because he was not a corporeal slasher. 281 00:13:29,808 --> 00:13:31,854 He was not just some deranged mad man 282 00:13:31,897 --> 00:13:33,899 who was taking down people at a camp. 283 00:13:33,943 --> 00:13:36,510 He functioned differently. 284 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:40,601 He had admit those to him where he was hunting in dreams 285 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:43,213 and there was no real clear cut way to kill him. 286 00:13:51,743 --> 00:13:54,093 And that was horrifying. 287 00:13:54,137 --> 00:13:57,923 - Wes was always adamant about the fact 288 00:13:57,967 --> 00:14:02,797 that the bad guy had to be as smart as the protagonist. 289 00:14:02,841 --> 00:14:04,451 And I think, the thing about Freddy 290 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:09,065 is that he's smart so he's relatable and he's funny. 291 00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:13,373 - How sweet, fresh meat. 292 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:15,810 - Freddy has it all, man. 293 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:17,769 I mean, he's just the coolest monster. 294 00:14:17,812 --> 00:14:19,640 He's the coolest, bad guy ever. 295 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:25,124 He moves well, he's got all these kind of great poses 296 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:27,648 that Jason never had. 297 00:14:27,692 --> 00:14:30,042 I mean, I love Jason, but sorry, Jason. 298 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,743 - The whole Freddy Krueger's, you know, 299 00:14:35,787 --> 00:14:40,444 thrust is about killing these kids with this sense of glee. 300 00:14:42,098 --> 00:14:45,840 - He will throw in these one-liners as he's killing you, 301 00:14:45,884 --> 00:14:48,669 as he's about to kill you, or after he's killed you. 302 00:14:48,713 --> 00:14:51,237 And he wants you to know that he enjoys it. 303 00:14:51,281 --> 00:14:52,586 - Bon appetit, bitch. 304 00:14:55,024 --> 00:14:57,983 - We loved Freddy for his comedy and his timing. 305 00:14:59,854 --> 00:15:01,769 - Want to suck face? - No. 306 00:15:01,813 --> 00:15:04,250 - Freddy was a character who didn't rely on his size. 307 00:15:04,294 --> 00:15:06,252 He didn't rely on his speed. 308 00:15:06,296 --> 00:15:08,124 He was toying with people psychologically. 309 00:15:09,647 --> 00:15:10,822 - Welcome home, Taryn. 310 00:15:13,216 --> 00:15:14,869 Look familiar? 311 00:15:14,913 --> 00:15:16,871 - Freddy is in there with those private thoughts, 312 00:15:16,915 --> 00:15:18,961 those private fears. 313 00:15:19,004 --> 00:15:20,658 He knows what makes you tick. 314 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:25,793 - Let's get high. 315 00:15:30,494 --> 00:15:33,149 - Freddy Krueger, more than any of the other icons, 316 00:15:33,192 --> 00:15:35,368 is much more personally involved 317 00:15:35,412 --> 00:15:36,456 with the people that he's killing. 318 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,327 - Yeah. - He gets to know them. 319 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:38,676 He gets to understand them. 320 00:15:38,719 --> 00:15:40,634 Like he puts a lot of time and energy 321 00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:42,985 into making the perfect nightmare. 322 00:15:43,028 --> 00:15:44,812 He's trying to kill you in a way 323 00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:46,510 that is going to terrify you the most. 324 00:15:49,252 --> 00:15:51,863 - I want to draw some blood. - Help! 325 00:15:53,082 --> 00:15:54,648 - As he searches 326 00:15:54,692 --> 00:15:55,736 for your weaknesses. - Searches for it right then. 327 00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:56,476 - He goes right in and he finds it 328 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,869 and he exploits it. 329 00:15:57,912 --> 00:15:59,740 This idea of like, like fucking with his prey. 330 00:16:01,394 --> 00:16:02,743 - Hello? 331 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:06,312 - I'm your boyfriend now, Nancy. 332 00:16:07,966 --> 00:16:10,055 - The key is that the movies take place in a dream. 333 00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:12,231 It is in fact, the "Nightmare on Elm Street" 334 00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:14,668 and everyone that sees it can identify with that. 335 00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,845 Everybody's had a bad dream or a daydream or a nightmare. 336 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:21,066 - It's interesting because in his world, in the dream world, 337 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:23,416 he has free reign, he can do whatever he wants, 338 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:25,505 but once he steps into the real world, 339 00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:26,941 it's like "Home Alone." 340 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:34,949 Nancy was able to set up all these traps. 341 00:16:34,993 --> 00:16:37,169 Like, he's one of the sticky bandits. 342 00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:40,216 - Ow! 343 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:55,927 - It's ridiculous. 344 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:57,798 - The idea that we grow up with is, 345 00:16:57,842 --> 00:16:59,539 oh, there's a monster under my bed. 346 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:01,063 There's a monster in the closet. 347 00:17:01,106 --> 00:17:02,455 Will, you just go into bed 348 00:17:02,499 --> 00:17:04,066 and you put the covers over your head 349 00:17:04,109 --> 00:17:05,067 and you close your eyes 350 00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:06,677 and it's all going to be fine, 351 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,288 but that's literally what's going to kill you in Elm Street. 352 00:17:09,332 --> 00:17:11,943 - All day long I've been seeing that guy's weird face. 353 00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:14,467 And hearing those fingernails. 354 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:16,469 - Fingernails? 355 00:17:18,254 --> 00:17:19,820 That's amazing you saying that, 356 00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:21,953 that made me remember the dream I had last night. 357 00:17:21,996 --> 00:17:24,086 - And I think everyone found that idea 358 00:17:24,129 --> 00:17:28,090 so fresh and exciting and invigorating and terrifying. 359 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:30,788 - This is just a dream, he isn't real. 360 00:17:30,831 --> 00:17:33,399 He isn't real. 361 00:17:33,443 --> 00:17:36,098 - Wes came to New York to do all the post-production 362 00:17:36,141 --> 00:17:37,447 for "Nightmare on Elm Street." 363 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:39,144 My sister and I went to visit him one weekend. 364 00:17:39,188 --> 00:17:40,798 He's like, "Meet me at the editing room." 365 00:17:40,841 --> 00:17:43,627 So, we go up to Times Square and he's like, 366 00:17:44,976 --> 00:17:46,673 "You know, we just put together a cut 367 00:17:46,717 --> 00:17:51,635 and I really don't even know if we have a film here." 368 00:17:51,678 --> 00:17:55,117 I mean, honestly, he was very unsure about it. 369 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,511 - Did anyone ever think that movie was going to be a big deal? 370 00:17:58,555 --> 00:18:00,252 Not really. 371 00:18:00,296 --> 00:18:02,776 Bob was hoping it would make $2.46 cents for the company. 372 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:06,432 So, the fact that there were articles written actually 373 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:07,825 in the "New York Times.' 374 00:18:07,868 --> 00:18:09,957 - When I really sat in a movie theater 375 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:11,611 and watched with an audience 376 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:15,137 is when I saw how other people really responded to it. 377 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:19,837 And it was fabulous because everyone just was yelling 378 00:18:20,881 --> 00:18:22,666 at the screen and screaming it, 379 00:18:22,709 --> 00:18:24,494 the characters to not go in, 380 00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:26,322 "Don't go in the basement!" 381 00:18:26,365 --> 00:18:28,454 And I realized that this was a new age. 382 00:18:28,498 --> 00:18:31,501 Like this is horror movies, different than regular movies 383 00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:34,373 and everyone's there to have a great time. 384 00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:37,159 - Our first weekend, Wes called me and said, 385 00:18:37,202 --> 00:18:41,467 "We just kicked "Beverly Hills Cop" off the top spot 386 00:18:41,511 --> 00:18:43,165 and I'm like, "You're kidding me." 387 00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:45,297 What is it about this thing? 388 00:18:45,341 --> 00:18:46,690 - I know you're there, Freddy. 389 00:18:48,344 --> 00:18:50,650 - Freddy Krueger does not really appear in the advertising 390 00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,217 of the first films. 391 00:18:52,261 --> 00:18:55,089 You saw the glove in the posters and in the newspaper ads, 392 00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:57,309 but by the time the second film came out, 393 00:18:57,353 --> 00:18:58,702 he had really taken hold 394 00:18:58,745 --> 00:19:01,008 and they were putting him front and center. 395 00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:02,358 Watch out for him. 396 00:19:03,707 --> 00:19:04,925 May be in your neighborhood soon. 397 00:19:06,753 --> 00:19:10,192 A "Nightmare on Elm Street," part two. 398 00:19:10,235 --> 00:19:12,194 - It was obvious that Bob Shay ar New Line 399 00:19:12,237 --> 00:19:13,543 would want a sequel 400 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,414 because the first film was such a success. 401 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,721 It did so well, it set up this fantastic character, 402 00:19:17,764 --> 00:19:20,680 this incredible story, this great world, 403 00:19:20,724 --> 00:19:23,509 but there's a part of a lot of people that believes 404 00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:25,729 that maybe they didn't know enough 405 00:19:25,772 --> 00:19:27,339 of what they were getting into 406 00:19:27,383 --> 00:19:30,255 with regard to the character, with regard to the story. 407 00:19:30,299 --> 00:19:32,344 A successful film is one thing, 408 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:33,954 but a character breaking through 409 00:19:33,998 --> 00:19:35,869 the way Freddy Krueger broke through 410 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:38,089 did not happen as quickly as maybe 411 00:19:38,132 --> 00:19:39,786 that movie went into production, 412 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:43,747 which is why Freddy as a character is all over the place 413 00:19:43,790 --> 00:19:45,792 in Elm Street two, compared to the first film. 414 00:19:45,836 --> 00:19:46,924 - He's inside me. 415 00:19:48,926 --> 00:19:50,232 I'm scared. 416 00:19:50,275 --> 00:19:51,276 - Jesse, who is doing this to you? 417 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,364 - Fred Krueger. 418 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:54,540 - With part two, you know, 419 00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:57,543 him being awake and Freddy kind of living inside of him 420 00:19:57,587 --> 00:19:59,110 and growing inside of him. 421 00:19:59,153 --> 00:20:01,721 It's almost more of a "Hellraiser" concept. 422 00:20:01,765 --> 00:20:03,897 And I think it didn't work. 423 00:20:03,941 --> 00:20:08,119 - I think sometimes Nightmare two is unfairly dismissed. 424 00:20:08,162 --> 00:20:11,253 In Nightmare two, Freddy's still really scary. 425 00:20:11,296 --> 00:20:14,299 In fact, it's actually one of the most disturbing movies 426 00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:16,083 I've seen, especially when I was young, 427 00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:17,563 because it was a body horror film. 428 00:20:17,607 --> 00:20:21,567 It's very Cronenbergian, emerging from the physical body 429 00:20:21,611 --> 00:20:23,482 of this young man. 430 00:20:27,443 --> 00:20:28,835 You're like, ah, what are you doing? 431 00:20:28,879 --> 00:20:29,836 You know, there's something still dangerous 432 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,794 about the character. 433 00:20:33,492 --> 00:20:35,146 - When I got hired to do Nightmare two, 434 00:20:35,189 --> 00:20:36,495 what I wanted to bring to the character 435 00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:39,629 was I wanted to give it more bone structure. 436 00:20:39,672 --> 00:20:42,414 I bought burned books and I studied all this, 437 00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,938 the actual people who had been scarred completely 438 00:20:44,982 --> 00:20:46,679 from head to toe. 439 00:20:46,723 --> 00:20:48,768 And you know, what I noticed was that some bone structure 440 00:20:48,812 --> 00:20:51,641 was coming through, cheekbones, brows, things like that. 441 00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,295 Sometimes the nose was gone. 442 00:20:53,338 --> 00:20:55,775 I kind of embraced that because I always saw Freddy sort of 443 00:20:55,819 --> 00:20:57,429 as a male witch. 444 00:20:57,473 --> 00:20:58,952 - I'll get you, my pretty. 445 00:20:58,996 --> 00:21:01,781 And your little soul too. 446 00:21:04,044 --> 00:21:06,438 He has the hat with a big wide brim. 447 00:21:06,482 --> 00:21:09,789 He's got fingernails sort of, with claw hand 448 00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:11,138 and he's got sort of a hook nose. 449 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:12,618 And I kind of went off of that 450 00:21:12,662 --> 00:21:15,708 and made it look more like a witch. 451 00:21:19,756 --> 00:21:21,366 We do a lot of promotions after part two. 452 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,890 So, we would go in video stores we'd go 453 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:25,370 and Robert would sign a bunch of stuff. 454 00:21:25,414 --> 00:21:28,025 I mean, he was getting big and in New York City, 455 00:21:28,068 --> 00:21:29,722 they're incredible, great fans. 456 00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,985 I mean, they'll scream out, "Robert!" 457 00:21:32,029 --> 00:21:34,379 They all know him by his first name. 458 00:21:34,423 --> 00:21:35,641 "Freddy!" 459 00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:38,252 I thought, you know, what is this? 460 00:21:38,296 --> 00:21:40,472 He kills kids and here these kids are all running 461 00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:43,083 to touch him and say hi to him. 462 00:21:43,127 --> 00:21:44,650 So, I think that's kind of when I knew something's up 463 00:21:44,694 --> 00:21:45,695 with this character. 464 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:49,742 - You've got posters and magazine covers 465 00:21:49,786 --> 00:21:53,355 and they started talking about consumer products 466 00:21:53,398 --> 00:21:54,704 and things like that. 467 00:21:54,747 --> 00:21:57,010 And they were going to be the launching pad 468 00:21:57,054 --> 00:22:00,013 for the next step, which of course was "Dream Warriors." 469 00:22:00,057 --> 00:22:03,365 - Nightmares, they have a way of coming back. 470 00:22:05,062 --> 00:22:07,543 "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 Dream Warriors." 471 00:22:07,586 --> 00:22:10,067 - Everyone knew that because of this franchise 472 00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:12,025 and particularly "Dream Warriors," 473 00:22:12,069 --> 00:22:13,897 Freddy Krueger was cool. 474 00:22:15,725 --> 00:22:16,769 - I said, where's the fucking bourbon? 475 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:17,553 - Mom? 476 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:23,863 - Wes Craven didn't really have much of a hand 477 00:22:23,907 --> 00:22:27,606 in "Nightmare on Elm Street," part two, but in part three, 478 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:32,306 it's a fan favorite because we're seeing Freddy 479 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:34,221 become a little more self-actualized 480 00:22:34,265 --> 00:22:37,529 as like this showman murderer. 481 00:22:37,573 --> 00:22:40,227 - A circus needs a ringmaster and that's what Freddy became. 482 00:22:40,271 --> 00:22:41,881 He was our guide through all this kind of stuff, 483 00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:43,709 making the jokes about them. 484 00:22:43,753 --> 00:22:45,581 And people really responded to that. 485 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:49,628 - Welcome to prime time, bitch. 486 00:22:51,369 --> 00:22:54,111 - He takes the chick and he puts her head in the TV, 487 00:22:54,154 --> 00:22:56,635 pandemonium, screaming, laugh, I mean, 488 00:22:56,679 --> 00:23:00,247 it's just like you went to see Freddy for those moments. 489 00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:04,469 - It was still dark, but it had gone beyond revenge. 490 00:23:04,513 --> 00:23:07,429 There was a sense of enjoyment in the killing of the kids 491 00:23:07,472 --> 00:23:09,256 that was new to Freddy to me. 492 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:13,652 It was like, it wasn't just to make amends 493 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:16,655 for the past injustices that he felt 494 00:23:16,699 --> 00:23:18,265 had been perpetrated against him. 495 00:23:18,309 --> 00:23:22,095 - Sorry, kid, I don't believe in fairy tales. 496 00:23:23,706 --> 00:23:26,360 - Freddy is a world-class world builder. 497 00:23:26,404 --> 00:23:29,842 He takes full advantage of the powers 498 00:23:29,886 --> 00:23:31,627 that the dream demons have given him. 499 00:23:39,809 --> 00:23:42,115 - The fact that he is limitless in his powers 500 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,030 also means things keep getting bigger. 501 00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:45,510 They get a little more sensationalized. 502 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:47,294 They make jokes and put them on TV 503 00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:48,774 and talk shows in the movie. 504 00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:50,036 - Can I ask you something? 505 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,516 - Certainly. 506 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,518 - Who gives a fuck what you think? 507 00:23:56,652 --> 00:23:59,611 - Freddy became this character that was like live on stage. 508 00:23:59,655 --> 00:24:01,047 Like almost like at all times. 509 00:24:01,091 --> 00:24:03,310 And as a drag icon, we can relate. 510 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:05,008 - He had catchphrases 511 00:24:05,051 --> 00:24:06,879 and it was very like delivery like this. 512 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,188 - What's wrong, Joey, feeling tongue tied? 513 00:24:11,231 --> 00:24:13,016 - Well, maybe at first you don't realize 514 00:24:13,059 --> 00:24:16,367 what a huge imprint and what a huge impact 515 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:18,064 your character is going to make. 516 00:24:18,108 --> 00:24:20,197 But, then I think they quickly realized 517 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,416 like we've created like a horror icon. 518 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:24,549 He was ready for prime time, bitch. 519 00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:29,380 - Nightmare three, the total grosses, 520 00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:33,993 so to speak, are now over 40 million. 521 00:24:34,037 --> 00:24:35,517 It scored the biggest opening 522 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,562 for any independent film, ever. 523 00:24:37,606 --> 00:24:38,563 Why? 524 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:41,087 Why you ask? 525 00:24:41,131 --> 00:24:43,655 Freddy Krueger, that's why, sucker. 526 00:24:43,699 --> 00:24:44,830 - When that hit, 527 00:24:44,874 --> 00:24:46,223 and it was a huge hit, 528 00:24:46,266 --> 00:24:47,746 it made more money than the first two. 529 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:50,575 It was like, all right, now we know what this is. 530 00:24:50,619 --> 00:24:53,360 It's Freddy and teens, boom. 531 00:24:53,404 --> 00:24:54,187 Let's go forward. 532 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:55,580 - Believe it or not, 533 00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:58,540 some people still don't recognize me. 534 00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:00,280 That's why I carry this. 535 00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:06,417 - He was doing MTV spots, music videos, you name it. 536 00:25:06,460 --> 00:25:09,594 Freddy became this huge mainstream success. 537 00:25:13,816 --> 00:25:17,428 - 80s horror characters stopped being relegated 538 00:25:17,471 --> 00:25:18,777 to just what we saw on the silver screen. 539 00:25:18,821 --> 00:25:20,431 They became pop culture phenomenons 540 00:25:20,474 --> 00:25:22,085 and celebrities of their own. 541 00:25:22,128 --> 00:25:23,956 You would turn on MTV and Freddy Krueger, 542 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,697 not Robert England, 543 00:25:25,741 --> 00:25:27,481 but Freddy Krueger would be hosting a block of music videos. 544 00:25:27,525 --> 00:25:30,615 - Right now it's Los Lobos with the case 545 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:33,270 of those "Shakin', Shakin' Shakes." 546 00:25:33,313 --> 00:25:34,880 - And don't even get me started 547 00:25:34,924 --> 00:25:36,447 with Freddy's phone sex line. 548 00:25:36,490 --> 00:25:38,580 - So, dial this number now, if you dare. 549 00:25:38,623 --> 00:25:40,756 Tell 'em Freddy sent ya. 550 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:41,713 - You know, I know you weren't supposed 551 00:25:41,757 --> 00:25:43,019 to call him and jerk off, 552 00:25:43,062 --> 00:25:44,629 but I mean, it was all set up like that, right? 553 00:25:44,673 --> 00:25:45,891 - $2 the first minute, 554 00:25:45,935 --> 00:25:47,719 45 cents each additional minute, 555 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:50,461 children get your parents permission before you dial. 556 00:25:50,504 --> 00:25:52,724 - Freddy just became this merchandising monster. 557 00:25:52,768 --> 00:25:54,596 He had 1-900 numbers. 558 00:25:54,639 --> 00:25:57,337 He had his own TV series for a little while. 559 00:25:58,338 --> 00:26:01,080 - Remember, we make house calls. 560 00:26:01,124 --> 00:26:02,342 - As the editor of "Fangoria," 561 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,909 I knew every time I put him on the cover, 562 00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:06,520 that issue was going to like double in sales. 563 00:26:06,564 --> 00:26:09,262 We did spin off magazines, licensed magazines. 564 00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,264 It was Freddy, Freddy, Freddy. 565 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:14,790 That's kind of maybe what pissed the readers off. 566 00:26:14,833 --> 00:26:17,270 He no longer belonged to just the fans now. 567 00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:19,795 Now mainstream America embraced Freddy. 568 00:26:19,838 --> 00:26:21,274 - We loved Freddy from the beginning. 569 00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:23,102 We subscribed to "Fangoria" magazine. 570 00:26:23,146 --> 00:26:25,017 I had every issue. 571 00:26:25,061 --> 00:26:29,805 There's this point when something becomes too popular 572 00:26:31,197 --> 00:26:33,635 and all the dickheads that I hated, you know, 573 00:26:33,678 --> 00:26:35,158 started being Freddy fans. 574 00:26:35,201 --> 00:26:37,943 And it was like this thing that was mine, 575 00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:40,467 this thing that was uniquely mine 576 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:43,296 and the other people who loved it were like me. 577 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,211 When it became so popular 578 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:48,693 that Freddy was hosting shows on MTV, 579 00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:50,695 I have to say, I resented it. 580 00:26:50,739 --> 00:26:52,958 - I mean, it probably made the character 581 00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:54,568 much less terrifying, but you know, 582 00:26:55,569 --> 00:26:56,483 he had to do what he had to do. 583 00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:57,484 I'm sure he was like, 584 00:26:57,528 --> 00:26:58,660 how do I rise to the occasion? 585 00:26:58,703 --> 00:27:01,358 - He was just a complete success 586 00:27:01,401 --> 00:27:04,013 in every pop culture way you could think about. 587 00:27:04,056 --> 00:27:06,058 I mean, limousines with rock stars, 588 00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:07,669 going places and having a great time. 589 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,065 - You see in the next couple of movies, it was always like, 590 00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:15,677 let's copy the three formula, let's showcase Freddy. 591 00:27:18,027 --> 00:27:19,724 - How's this for a wet dream? 592 00:27:19,768 --> 00:27:21,726 - Four, "The Dream Master" is my favorite 593 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,163 because it had jokes, it was also weird 594 00:27:24,207 --> 00:27:26,818 and it was also just kind of really exciting to me. 595 00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:28,559 - Freddy was not just the funniest, 596 00:27:28,602 --> 00:27:30,909 but Freddy was also the most maniacal. 597 00:27:30,953 --> 00:27:33,607 He was so in charge of his universe. 598 00:27:33,651 --> 00:27:35,609 And when you were sucked into it, 599 00:27:35,653 --> 00:27:38,264 anything that could happen, did happen. 600 00:27:44,749 --> 00:27:48,274 - You can check in, but you can't check out. 601 00:27:48,318 --> 00:27:50,102 - They check in, but they don't check out. 602 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:51,843 - It is incredible. 603 00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:54,541 - I think it may be the only franchise where the box office 604 00:27:54,585 --> 00:27:58,023 went up with each successive film for the first four films. 605 00:27:58,067 --> 00:27:59,721 Each of the first four films made more 606 00:27:59,764 --> 00:28:01,070 than the one before it. 607 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:02,724 - Oh, and a movie will cheer you up. 608 00:28:02,767 --> 00:28:04,203 - What are you seeing? 609 00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:07,032 - Nightmare on Elm Street 4." 610 00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:09,034 - Do you have to see one, two, and three to appreciate it? 611 00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:12,385 - No, Rose, it stands alone. 612 00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:15,040 - By the time you get to comic book Freddy in the fifth one, 613 00:28:15,084 --> 00:28:16,781 the subtlety was gone 614 00:28:16,825 --> 00:28:19,262 and the subtlety is what made it scary. 615 00:28:19,305 --> 00:28:21,481 - Faster than a bastard maniac. 616 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:25,398 - Told ya comic books was bad for ya. 617 00:28:30,664 --> 00:28:33,232 - Who's ever had a dream where they were paper? 618 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:34,625 And fighting Superman? 619 00:28:34,668 --> 00:28:37,062 Like, no one has that dream. 620 00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,151 - I like "Freddy's Dead" 621 00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:42,241 because it's so silly and outlandish 622 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,461 and so far off the beaten path. 623 00:28:44,504 --> 00:28:46,811 Freddy is at his most clownish in this film 624 00:28:46,855 --> 00:28:48,770 And he's really taunting the teenagers 625 00:28:48,813 --> 00:28:49,901 that he's actually killing in it. 626 00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:52,948 - Hey, Spence, let's trip out. 627 00:28:54,732 --> 00:28:57,779 - Even when the movie's kind of bad, like the sixth one, 628 00:28:57,822 --> 00:29:00,259 there's the video game sequence. 629 00:29:00,303 --> 00:29:02,174 - Now I'm playing with power. 630 00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:06,657 There's the kid with an ear implant thing 631 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:08,790 that is intensifying all the sounds. 632 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:13,142 - Oh please, no. 633 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:18,800 - There's a whole big thing to it that kind of, oh, 634 00:29:18,843 --> 00:29:19,844 they could do anything. 635 00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:25,197 - This is my dream and I do what I want. 636 00:29:25,241 --> 00:29:28,505 - Might be your dream, but it's my rules! 637 00:29:32,552 --> 00:29:35,381 - You do get a very specialized way of death. 638 00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:36,165 That's for sure. 639 00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:43,694 - Nice hearing from ya, Carlos. 640 00:29:43,737 --> 00:29:46,740 - This is where it turned into Freddy sitcom. 641 00:29:46,784 --> 00:29:47,698 The whole thing. 642 00:29:47,741 --> 00:29:49,831 It has punchlines like sitcoms. 643 00:29:52,703 --> 00:29:54,879 You could put a laugh track behind that movie 644 00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:58,056 and I think it would make a lot more sense to people, 645 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,407 but that said, it was not well-received. 646 00:30:01,451 --> 00:30:02,191 - Questions? 647 00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:06,499 - Yeah, what are you on? 648 00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:09,851 Looks like a frying pan and some eggs to me. 649 00:30:09,894 --> 00:30:13,332 - "Freddy's Dead" was I think the low point of the series. 650 00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:16,988 - Kids. 651 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:30,872 - I got a call from Bob Shaye out of the blue, 652 00:30:30,915 --> 00:30:33,004 he said, "Look, we killed Freddy. 653 00:30:33,048 --> 00:30:34,614 We said he was dead forever, 654 00:30:34,658 --> 00:30:38,009 but we thought maybe, maybe there's one more film there. 655 00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:40,794 And we wondered if you would like to come up with an idea." 656 00:30:40,838 --> 00:30:43,014 - I'm sure people ask you this all the time, 657 00:30:43,058 --> 00:30:46,017 is Freddy really dead? 658 00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:47,932 - Of course he is, Freddy's dead and gone. 659 00:30:47,976 --> 00:30:49,542 - Sort of came to me in a bolt. 660 00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:50,935 We all have these incredible stories 661 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:52,719 about how this movie changed our life 662 00:30:52,763 --> 00:30:54,939 and how we've not been able to shake it in a sense. 663 00:30:56,593 --> 00:30:59,204 What if we did a film about everybody involved 664 00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:00,466 with the film? 665 00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:01,728 - He just started thinking about Freddy 666 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:03,948 and what it had been to him 667 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,951 and how it was now kind of torturing him 668 00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:08,953 'cause he didn't know where to go with it. 669 00:31:08,997 --> 00:31:10,563 It's like, "It's killing me right now. 670 00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:11,564 I can't let, Freddy's, you know?" 671 00:31:11,608 --> 00:31:12,783 And then you're like, 672 00:31:12,826 --> 00:31:14,437 "Wait, Freddy, me, killing, wait, yes." 673 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,569 - When he finally thought it out 674 00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:18,223 and really thought about this idea 675 00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:22,401 of having it be Heather Langenkamp as this actress 676 00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:25,578 who played Nancy getting tortured and haunted 677 00:31:25,622 --> 00:31:29,756 by Freddy Krueger, he must have been so excited 678 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,237 he came up with this superb idea. 679 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:35,632 - How would you like to join us in the definitive nightmare? 680 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:39,941 - I thought you killed Freddy off? 681 00:31:39,984 --> 00:31:43,248 - We did, but the fans, you know, the fans, 682 00:31:43,292 --> 00:31:45,163 God bless them, they're clamoring for more. 683 00:31:47,035 --> 00:31:49,863 - It's going to be about horror, and horror movies, 684 00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:52,605 and Hollywood, and how they affect the popular culture. 685 00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,477 And I said, "Count me in." 686 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,957 - "A New Nightmare" was meta-horror 687 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,961 before meta-horror became a big thing 688 00:32:00,004 --> 00:32:03,442 with "Scream" and the film, Freddy's not really Freddy. 689 00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:05,879 He's really this demon that's supposed to represent 690 00:32:05,923 --> 00:32:07,446 the loss of innocence and that's, 691 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:09,622 this is a demon that this dislikes the idea of Freddy 692 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:12,147 and wants to kind of mime him 693 00:32:12,190 --> 00:32:14,976 in order to break into the real world, 694 00:32:15,019 --> 00:32:17,021 but he has to use Heather Langenkamp in order to do it 695 00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:18,631 because she was the original person 696 00:32:18,675 --> 00:32:19,981 to defeat Freddy Krueger. 697 00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:22,505 - I think they'd like to see us together again. 698 00:32:22,548 --> 00:32:24,898 - In what, a romantic comedy? 699 00:32:24,942 --> 00:32:26,465 - Just because it's a love story, 700 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:29,033 it doesn't mean you can't have a decapitation or two. 701 00:32:29,077 --> 00:32:32,471 - At some point, there's a choice that is made. 702 00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:34,996 Freddy is going to be fun. 703 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,476 And we're going to have fun with these movies. 704 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,305 And Wes Craven has to bring that back in "New Nightmare" 705 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:43,395 and say, actually, this guy's gross and disgusting, 706 00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:46,137 and he's a murderer and he killed a bunch of children. 707 00:32:46,181 --> 00:32:47,008 It's not fun. 708 00:32:49,053 --> 00:32:52,056 - Miss me? 709 00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:56,321 - Wes coming back to make that character not just scary, 710 00:32:56,365 --> 00:33:01,022 but self-reflexive, to make it about the creator's journey, 711 00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:04,068 to have Robert Englund playing himself, 712 00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:06,244 to touch on some of the very real trauma 713 00:33:06,288 --> 00:33:08,333 that Heather was having in real life. 714 00:33:08,377 --> 00:33:09,334 - Hello? 715 00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:10,683 - Freddy's coming for you. 716 00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:12,076 - To channel all of that back into something 717 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,904 that was such a big part of their lives. 718 00:33:13,947 --> 00:33:16,037 To try to reclaim that and put it in a movie 719 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,690 and actually scare a new audience 720 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:21,346 is pretty much unparalleled in these franchises. 721 00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:22,608 - Freddy can break the fourth wall. 722 00:33:22,652 --> 00:33:24,697 He can come after the filmmakers. 723 00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:25,524 - What the hell is going on here? 724 00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:27,178 Cut the effects! 725 00:33:27,222 --> 00:33:31,052 - I think the concept of Freddy coming after the filmmakers 726 00:33:31,095 --> 00:33:35,099 and the actors is his second best sort of concept. 727 00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:36,883 It's really fun. 728 00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:39,712 - I think the only way to stop him is to make another movie. 729 00:33:39,756 --> 00:33:41,366 You're going to have to make a choice. 730 00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:42,976 - Choice? 731 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,630 What kind of choice? 732 00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:47,242 - Whether or not you're willing to play Nancy one last time. 733 00:33:49,287 --> 00:33:51,289 - It wasn't until it Wes Craven's "New Nightmare" 734 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:55,380 that I just genuinely felt like West had injected it 735 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:57,556 with something really refreshing, big ideas. 736 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,211 That's where Freddy started getting interesting to me again. 737 00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:01,256 - "There was no movie. 738 00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:05,477 There was only, her life." 739 00:34:05,521 --> 00:34:09,829 - It's hard to argue that Wes Craven 740 00:34:09,873 --> 00:34:12,789 is not a requirement for a Freddy film 741 00:34:12,832 --> 00:34:15,618 when most people would agree that the three 742 00:34:15,661 --> 00:34:17,272 he had some involvement with, 743 00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:20,101 one, three, and seven are the best ones. 744 00:34:20,144 --> 00:34:21,102 - That makes me happy. 745 00:34:22,146 --> 00:34:23,234 I wonder if he felt that. 746 00:34:23,278 --> 00:34:24,322 I wonder if he knew that. 747 00:34:25,541 --> 00:34:26,281 I hope he did. 748 00:34:28,283 --> 00:34:29,414 - Well, then next one is where he fought Jason 749 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:31,590 and everybody came back and it made 750 00:34:31,634 --> 00:34:33,679 more money than any of them to that point. 751 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:37,422 - When I was alive, I might've been a little naughty, 752 00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:39,772 but after they killed me, 753 00:34:39,816 --> 00:34:42,993 I became something much, much worse. 754 00:34:43,036 --> 00:34:45,474 - It was an epic battle, it's the Avengers, 755 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:47,171 it was the Avengers before the Avengers. 756 00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:47,998 - Oh no! 757 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:57,703 - It shouldn't be surprising that 758 00:34:57,747 --> 00:35:01,838 that character versus Jason became the kind of icon 759 00:35:01,881 --> 00:35:03,492 of the 80s and 90s that he became. 760 00:35:06,886 --> 00:35:08,497 - "Freddy vs. Jason" has been incubating 761 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,629 since the first 14-year-old boy came up to me 762 00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:15,330 and said, "Dude, do you think you could kick Jason's ass?" 763 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,293 That's really a fan-inspired film. 764 00:35:22,337 --> 00:35:23,555 And that's probably one reason 765 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:24,861 it did a hundred million worldwide, 766 00:35:24,904 --> 00:35:29,648 but it's just a fun movie. 767 00:35:31,259 --> 00:35:33,565 - When a film starts to create an event, 768 00:35:33,609 --> 00:35:36,568 which nightmare did because of Freddy Krueger, 769 00:35:36,612 --> 00:35:39,484 it becomes a group event and people want to be 770 00:35:39,528 --> 00:35:41,007 a part of something. 771 00:35:41,051 --> 00:35:44,185 - Nobody actually loves Freddy Krueger 772 00:35:44,228 --> 00:35:46,317 in the sense that they're like, 773 00:35:46,361 --> 00:35:49,842 I want that man to be my father or best friend. 774 00:35:49,886 --> 00:35:53,498 You love him as an idea, a concept, a piece of amusement. 775 00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:56,762 And ultimately as the character becomes more legendary 776 00:35:56,806 --> 00:35:59,417 and more iconic, you love him as a piece of pop culture 777 00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:02,203 that's become a part of you, a part of your life, 778 00:36:02,246 --> 00:36:03,726 your life's experience. 779 00:36:03,769 --> 00:36:06,032 - The Freddy phenomenon, I look back and I'm like, 780 00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:07,686 that is weird, man, I mean, it probably wouldn't, 781 00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:10,341 I wouldn't have questioned it at eight or nine, 782 00:36:10,385 --> 00:36:15,085 but I look back and it's just like, why was there pajamas? 783 00:36:16,434 --> 00:36:17,783 - There were things like toasters that imprinted 784 00:36:17,827 --> 00:36:19,437 the face of Freddy. 785 00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:22,701 I really liked the lunchbox with the thermos inside. 786 00:36:22,745 --> 00:36:26,357 - I wanted the toys of a guy who was murdering kids like me. 787 00:36:26,401 --> 00:36:28,751 I had trading cards with Freddy on it, I had a shirt, 788 00:36:28,794 --> 00:36:30,709 I wanted to dress up as Freddy, had the glove. 789 00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:31,754 - And then from that, 790 00:36:31,797 --> 00:36:33,799 we get the sexy Freddy costumes 791 00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:36,149 and we get the red and green mini dress 792 00:36:36,193 --> 00:36:39,936 with the like perfectly put slash marks 793 00:36:39,979 --> 00:36:43,548 right across the breast, which are very sexy. 794 00:36:43,592 --> 00:36:45,420 - Sexy damn Freddy Krueger. 795 00:36:45,463 --> 00:36:48,292 - Anybody who thinks they're above it 796 00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,163 hasn't found themselves on Halloween realizing 797 00:36:50,207 --> 00:36:51,252 that it's actually kind of perfect. 798 00:36:51,295 --> 00:36:52,818 - Like today. 799 00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:57,475 I still dress up as Freddy Krueger as a 46-year-old man. 800 00:36:58,824 --> 00:37:00,348 I do my peaches version of it, of course. 801 00:37:00,391 --> 00:37:03,786 - Today we have like Nike making Freddy Krueger sneakers. 802 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:05,570 You could take those colors and those patterns 803 00:37:05,614 --> 00:37:06,919 and you can put them anywhere. 804 00:37:06,963 --> 00:37:09,748 And you know that they are Freddy Krueger. 805 00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:13,622 They're just, they're so iconic in those positions. 806 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:15,319 I think that they're always going to be able 807 00:37:15,363 --> 00:37:17,930 to be referenced in fashion and pop culture 808 00:37:17,974 --> 00:37:20,455 because there are so developed. 809 00:37:20,498 --> 00:37:21,760 We know their entire history, 810 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,327 we know their wardrobe. 811 00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:25,851 And I think that that's something that you can't escape. 812 00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:27,462 - It's just that that sweater and hat combination 813 00:37:27,505 --> 00:37:29,855 looks exactly like Freddy Krueger. 814 00:37:32,162 --> 00:37:33,424 - Wow. 815 00:37:33,468 --> 00:37:35,687 Oh yeah, that do not cross my mind. 816 00:37:35,731 --> 00:37:38,124 - The iconography of Freddy Krueger will stay with us 817 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:39,343 for a long time, 818 00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:42,651 but Robert Englund embodies Freddy 819 00:37:42,694 --> 00:37:44,957 and he was who we identified with 820 00:37:45,001 --> 00:37:47,786 and he evolved the franchise. 821 00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:50,180 - Robert is so tied into Freddy. 822 00:37:50,223 --> 00:37:51,790 They tried to do a reboot. 823 00:37:51,834 --> 00:37:53,139 - I don't know Jesse. 824 00:37:53,183 --> 00:37:55,054 - You think you can turn back time? 825 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:57,840 Answer me! - No. 826 00:37:57,883 --> 00:37:59,320 - That actor is a brilliant actor, 827 00:37:59,363 --> 00:38:01,365 but he just isn't Freddy. 828 00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:03,454 - It was dead in the water because the character 829 00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:04,890 just didn't have the same life. 830 00:38:04,934 --> 00:38:05,978 - Fuck you. 831 00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:07,850 - Ooh, sounds like fun. 832 00:38:07,893 --> 00:38:09,982 - It doesn't have the thrill, the relish, 833 00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:11,810 the charm, the charisma, 834 00:38:11,854 --> 00:38:15,161 the little extra Freddy sparkle that made us fall in love 835 00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:17,033 with him in the first place. 836 00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:22,908 - I'll see you in hell. 837 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,042 - Tell 'em Freddy sent ya. 838 00:38:26,085 --> 00:38:27,913 - There's something so iconic about Freddy 839 00:38:27,957 --> 00:38:30,568 that stands outside of the films. 840 00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:33,397 - I thought I was doing a pretty damn good job here. 841 00:38:33,441 --> 00:38:35,399 - No, you're great with the knifey hands 842 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,097 and the melting candle face. 843 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:42,363 - Get ready to taste your own blood! 844 00:38:44,147 --> 00:38:48,891 - He could just pop up and you know who he is 845 00:38:49,935 --> 00:38:51,241 and you know what he stands for. 846 00:38:51,284 --> 00:38:54,244 - He had a personality, which is fun. 847 00:38:56,899 --> 00:38:58,553 - There's a real hoot for ya, Woodsy. 848 00:39:02,818 --> 00:39:04,863 - You pasted my head on Freddy Krueger's body? 849 00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:08,432 - You could turn on TV and see Freddy in incongruous, 850 00:39:08,476 --> 00:39:10,956 very weird mainstream situations. 851 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,436 - Every Halloween I tell him the same thing, 852 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,525 you can't bring weapons into the office. 853 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:16,875 - I made this for you, Uncle Robbie. 854 00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:18,703 - Ah, thanks, Freddie Krueger. 855 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,313 - Just who are you? 856 00:39:20,357 --> 00:39:24,970 They call me Creepy Eddie, but I'm your worst nightmare! 857 00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:28,931 - He just became like the friendly killer next door. 858 00:39:30,323 --> 00:39:33,065 - Say your prayers, Simpson. 859 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:34,545 - How do you spell your name? 860 00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:38,897 - Krueger, with a K, like Freddy. 861 00:39:38,941 --> 00:39:42,466 - I'm Scary Terry, you can run, but you can't hide, bitch. 862 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:45,774 - Freddy has become a part of American mythology. 863 00:39:48,298 --> 00:39:49,604 - Krueger! 864 00:39:49,647 --> 00:39:51,257 - Well, it ain't Dr. Seuss. 865 00:39:51,301 --> 00:39:53,129 - 20,000 years from now 866 00:39:53,172 --> 00:39:55,261 when they look back on our fallen civilization, 867 00:39:55,305 --> 00:39:57,002 they'll remember Michael Jackson, 868 00:39:57,046 --> 00:39:59,004 and Freddy Krueger, and George Washington. 869 00:40:00,005 --> 00:40:00,789 - I 870 00:40:02,225 --> 00:40:03,835 am 871 00:40:03,879 --> 00:40:05,141 eternal. 872 00:40:05,184 --> 00:40:06,664 - Because I don't know that anyone 873 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:09,798 can remember Fred Krueger as one thing 874 00:40:09,841 --> 00:40:11,974 because he's been so many different things. 875 00:40:12,017 --> 00:40:15,456 He has been a scary, in-the-shadows guy. 876 00:40:15,499 --> 00:40:18,371 Fred Krueger has been an in-your-face, wise cracking, 877 00:40:18,415 --> 00:40:20,939 MTV generation rollercoaster ride, 878 00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:22,463 - I'm here to help you. 879 00:40:22,506 --> 00:40:24,377 - Help yourself, fucker! 880 00:40:28,164 --> 00:40:31,123 - He has been the evil entity that is coming back 881 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,169 through a child to destroy all of us. 882 00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:36,999 - It's a boy! 883 00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:42,526 - And I think it's what we put into that character 884 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,223 that we're ultimately going to get out. 885 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:47,400 - I literally ask myself the question, 886 00:40:47,444 --> 00:40:51,535 why do people love this franchise so much every day? 887 00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:54,843 And every day I come up with a new answer for it. 888 00:40:54,886 --> 00:40:58,411 - What is seen is not always what is real. 889 00:40:58,455 --> 00:41:01,153 - I mean, whoever would have ever in my wildest dreams 890 00:41:01,197 --> 00:41:03,329 thought anybody would ever remember that role, 891 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:07,203 let alone, you know, ask me for an autograph about it. 892 00:41:07,246 --> 00:41:10,249 - So, I think your legacy is sort of determined 893 00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:11,642 by other people, 894 00:41:11,686 --> 00:41:13,383 which is kind of creepy when you think about it 895 00:41:13,426 --> 00:41:15,559 a little bit, but I'll take it. 896 00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:16,995 - I want to thank the fans for their loyalty. 897 00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:18,649 Freddy's been very, very good to me 898 00:41:18,693 --> 00:41:21,522 and Wes taught me to respect the genre 899 00:41:21,565 --> 00:41:23,349 and I'm glad I listened. 900 00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:26,657 - It's really a profound, enigmatic sort of phenomenon 901 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:30,008 that even though I was kind of the originator of it, 902 00:41:30,052 --> 00:41:32,054 I have no idea exactly how it works. 903 00:41:32,097 --> 00:41:34,665 - Freddy will always exist because we dream. 904 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:35,927 - Yeah, he will. 905 00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:37,538 - So, he'll always be there. - He will. 906 00:41:37,581 --> 00:41:41,019 I feel like Freddy fandom gets re-found every single day. 907 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:42,412 - Every generation I think, - Everyone will always love it 908 00:41:42,455 --> 00:41:44,196 - is going to re-pick up Freddy. 909 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,851 - Freddy's my first horror love. 910 00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:48,549 The very first thing that scared me, 911 00:41:48,592 --> 00:41:51,943 like really scared me, nightmares for months 912 00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:55,381 that turned into a deep and abiding love over time. 913 00:41:55,425 --> 00:41:57,688 You know you shouldn't, but you kind of just can't help it. 914 00:41:57,732 --> 00:42:01,257 - I don't think he's ever become less scary, actually. 915 00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,869 He's just become kind of more crazy scary to me. 916 00:42:04,913 --> 00:42:06,479 I don't think there'll be another character like him. 917 00:42:06,523 --> 00:42:10,048 - Freddy came into my life, I didn't come into his life. 918 00:42:10,092 --> 00:42:13,225 I believe that when Wes Craven let him out 919 00:42:13,269 --> 00:42:15,750 of a cage somewhere or this spirit out of a cage somewhere 920 00:42:15,793 --> 00:42:17,490 and I collided with those atoms. 921 00:42:21,538 --> 00:42:24,236 - Freddy's the only our icon out of all of these, 922 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,457 as far as I'm concerned, that could get laid on his own. 923 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:29,415 - I don't know about that. 924 00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:30,721 - I really do think that- 925 00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:32,897 - He's a janitor, not to malign janitors, 926 00:42:32,941 --> 00:42:34,072 but it's not like- 927 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:35,813 - I'm talking about post-death. 928 00:42:35,857 --> 00:42:38,337 Again, I feel like pre-death and post-death, 929 00:42:38,381 --> 00:42:39,730 for all of these people is a game changer. 930 00:42:39,774 --> 00:42:40,992 - Did you see when he opened up his shirt 931 00:42:41,036 --> 00:42:43,516 and it was all the screams of the souls? 932 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,822 - Chicks dig it, 933 00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:45,736 they love body mods. - The little mouths. 934 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:46,650 - They do, boys love them too. 935 00:42:46,694 --> 00:42:47,651 - Okay. 936 00:42:47,695 --> 00:42:49,174 - Freddy Krueger is charming. 937 00:42:49,218 --> 00:42:50,132 I love his hat. 938 00:42:50,175 --> 00:42:51,481 - If he wants to be charming. 939 00:42:51,524 --> 00:42:53,004 - If you really got into like the idea of like, 940 00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:55,746 he can make a jacuzzi into a big mouth, that's fun. 941 00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:57,269 - Well, if you wanted to use his powers for good, 942 00:42:57,313 --> 00:42:58,531 I suppose that's true. - Yeah. 943 00:42:58,575 --> 00:42:59,968 If he decides he just wants to like, 944 00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:02,623 see what it's like to date, he'd do very well. 945 00:43:02,666 --> 00:43:03,972 - I don't know. 946 00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:04,668 There's something about not being able- 947 00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:05,669 - He's a funny guy. 948 00:43:05,713 --> 00:43:06,975 - Well, he is funny. 949 00:43:07,018 --> 00:43:08,454 - Pick up artists always talk about wearing 950 00:43:08,498 --> 00:43:10,761 a big hat in order to get attention at the bar. 951 00:43:10,805 --> 00:43:11,936 So, he's got the big hat. 952 00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:13,155 So, girls are already asking him like, 953 00:43:13,198 --> 00:43:14,373 "What's up with the hat?". 954 00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:15,636 And he's just like, "I kill kids." 955 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:16,462 And they're all like, 956 00:43:16,506 --> 00:43:17,681 "Oh, you're hilarious. 957 00:43:17,725 --> 00:43:18,769 You're funny." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 958 00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:20,510 - And he negs 'em a little bit.