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GORDON GRAY:
Dr. Oppenheimer.

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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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As we begin, I believe you have

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a statement to read
into the record.

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Yes, Your Honor.

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WARD EVANS:
We're not judges, Doctor.

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ROBERT:
No.

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Of course.

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Members of the security board,

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the so-called
derogatory information

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in your indictment of me
cannot be fairly understood,

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except in the context
of my life and my work.

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SENATE AIDE:
How long did he testify?

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Honestly, I forget.

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The whole hearing took a month.

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An ordeal, hmm?

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Well, I've only
read the transcripts.

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(clears throat)

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

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You weren't there?

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As chairman,
I wasn't allowed to be.

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Are they really
going to ask about it?

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-It was years ago.
-Four years ago...

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Five.

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Oppenheimer
still divides America.

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The committee is gonna want
to know where you stood.

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Senator Thurmond asked me to say

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not to feel that
you're on trial.

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Oh, funny, I didn't
till you just said that.

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-Really, Mr. Strauss...
-It's Admiral.

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Um, Admiral Strauss.
This is a formality.

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President Eisenhower has asked
you to be in his cabinet.

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Senate really has no choice
but to confirm you.

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And if they bring up
Oppenheimer?

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When they bring up Oppenheimer,
you answer honestly.

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No senator can deny
you did your duty.

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It'll be uncomfortable.
(chuckles awkwardly)

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

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(clamoring)

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ROGER ROBB: Why did you leave
the United States?

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I, uh... I wanted to study
the new physics.

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GRAY:
Was there nowhere here?

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I thought Berkeley
had the leading

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theoretical physics department.

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Yes. Once I built it.

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But first I had to go to Europe.

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I went to Cambridge to study
under Patrick Blackett.

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Were you happier there
than in America?

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-Happier?
-Yes.

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No. No, I, uh...

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<i>I was homesick, um...</i>

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...emotionally immature...

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<i>...troubled by visions</i>
<i>of a hidden universe.</i>

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Useless in the lab.

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Christ, Oppenheimer.

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Have you had any sleep?

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Start again.

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I need to go
to the lecture, sir.

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Why?

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It's Niels Bohr.

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BLACKETT:
Damn, completely forgot.

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All right. (clears throat)
Let's go.

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-Oh, no, not you, Oppenheimer.
-(students laughing)

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You finish coating those plates.

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STUDENT 1:
You see them?

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(students laughing)

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STUDENT 2:
Don't forget to clean up!

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BOHR: <i>Quantum physics</i>
<i>is not a step forward,</i>

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it is a new way
to understand reality.

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Einstein's opened the door,
now we are peering through,

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seeing a world inside our world.

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A world of energy and paradox
that not everyone can accept.

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Yeah, definitely.

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-(panting)
-Are you all right?

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Niels, meet
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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BOHR:
What's the "J" stand for?

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Nothing, apparently.

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You were at my lecture.

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You asked
the only good question.

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BLACKETT:
No one's denying his insight.

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It's his laboratory work that
leaves a little to be desired.

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(swallows) I heard
you give the same lecture...

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At Harvard, yes, and you
asked the same question.

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Why ask again?

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Hadn't liked your answer.

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Did you like it better
yesterday?

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A lot.

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You can lift the stone
without being ready

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for the snake that's revealed.

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Now it seems you're ready.

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-But you don't enjoy the lab?
-(continues panting)

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So get out of Cambridge
with its beakers and potions.

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Go somewhere they let you think.

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(whispers):
Where?

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Göttingen.

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-Born?
-Born.

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Get to Germany,
study under Max Born.

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Learn the ways of theory.

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I'll send word.

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(gasps)

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-Wormhole. (exhales)
-(apple clatters in trashcan)

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How's your mathematics?

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Not good enough for
the physicist he wants to be.

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Algebra's like sheet music.

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The important thing isn't
"Can you read music?"

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It's "Can you hear it?"

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Can you hear the music, Robert?

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Yes, I can.

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The senator from Wyoming.

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Admiral Strauss, I'm interested
in your relationship

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with Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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You met him in 1947?

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Correct.

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You were commissioner

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of the Atomic Energy Commission?

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I was, but I-I actually
met Robert in my capacity

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as board member of the
Institute for Advanced Study

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at Princeton because

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after the war,
he was world-renowned

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as the great man of physics,
and I was determined

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to get him to run the Institute.

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Dr. Oppenheimer. An honor.

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Mr. Strauss.

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It's pronounced "straws."

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ROBERT:
Oh-ppenheimer, Oppenheimer.

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Whatever way you say it,
they know I'm Jewish.

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(Strauss chuckles)

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I'm president of Temple Emanu-El
in Manhattan.

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"Straws" is just
the Southern pronunciation.

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-Ah.
-Anyway,

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welcome to the Institute.

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I think you could be
very happy here.

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Yes, well,
you'll love the commute.

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The position comes
with that house

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for you and your wife

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and your, is it two children?

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Yes, two.

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I'm a great admirer
of your work.

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And you're a physicist
by training, Mr. Strauss?

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I'm sorry, uh,
common room 4:00 tea.

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No, I'm not trained in physics
or anything else.

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-I'm a self-made man.
-Ah.

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-I can relate to that.
-Really?

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Yes, my father was one.

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And this would be your office.

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I'm told he's there
most afternoons.

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You know, I've always wondered

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why you didn't involve him
in the Manhattan Project.

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Greatest scientific mind
of our time.

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Of his time.

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Einstein published
his Theory of Relativity

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more than 40 years ago now.

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But never embraced
the quantum world it revealed.

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"God doesn't play dice."

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Precisely.

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You never thought of studying
physics formally, Mr. Strauss?

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Well, I had offers,
but I chose to sell shoes.

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Lewis Strauss was once
a lowly shoe salesman.

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No, just a shoe salesman.

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Huh.

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-I'd love to introduce you.
-No need.

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I have known him for years.

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Albert.

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(pensive music playing)

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What was that?
What did you say to him?

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Oh, he's fine.

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Mr. Strauss,
there are things in my past

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you ought to be aware of.

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Well, as chairman of the AEC,

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I have access
to your security file.

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I've read it.

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-You're not worried?
-No.

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Why would I be worried
after everything

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you've done for your country?

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Well, times change, Mr. Strauss.

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Well, the purpose
of this institute

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is to provide a haven
for independent minds.

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That's you.
You are the man for the job.

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Well, then I'll consider it.

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I'll see you
at the AEC meeting tomorrow.

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(scoffs)

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This is one
of the most prestigious

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appointments in the country.

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Yes, with a great commute.

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That's why I'm considering it.

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SENATOR McGEE:
<i>So, Dr. Oppenheimer brought</i>

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<i>your attention</i>
<i>to his past associations</i>

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<i>before you appointed him?</i>

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Yes.

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And it didn't concern you?

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Just then,
I was entirely consumed

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with what he must have said
to Einstein to sour him on me.

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(laughter)

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But later?

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Well, we all know
what happened later.

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ROBB: Doctor, your, uh...
your time in Europe,

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you seemed to meet
with a wide range

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of other countries' physicists.

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Yes, that's right.

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Any Russians?

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None that spring to mind.

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If you'll just allow me to
continue with my statement...

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Mr. Robb, you'll have ample
opportunity to cross-examine.

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ROBERT: After Göttingen,
I moved on to Leiden in Holland

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<i>where I first met Isidor Rabi.</i>

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(clears throat) Excuse me.

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(grunts)

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(sighs)

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A Yank,
lecturing on the new physics?

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This I have to hear.

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I'm an American myself.

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How surprising.

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Um...

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Let me know if you need
any help with the English.

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(scattered laughter)

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(speaking Dutch)

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Wait, what's he saying?

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(door opens)

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(Rabi grunts)

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No, thank you.

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It's a long way to Zurich.

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You get any skinnier,
we're gonna lose you

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between the seat cushions.

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I'm Rabi.

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Oppenheimer.

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I caught your lecture
on molecules.

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Caught some of it.

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We're a couple of New York Jews.
How do you know Dutch?

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Well, I thought
I'd better learn it

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when I got here this semester.

260
00:14:29,336 --> 00:14:30,938
You learned enough Dutch
in six weeks

261
00:14:30,971 --> 00:14:32,674
to give a lecture
on quantum mechanics?

262
00:14:32,707 --> 00:14:34,208
Wanted to challenge myself.

263
00:14:34,241 --> 00:14:36,611
Quantum physics wasn't
challenging enough.

264
00:14:36,644 --> 00:14:38,379
<i>-Schvitzer.</i>
<i>-Schvitzer?</i>

265
00:14:38,412 --> 00:14:40,314
-Show-off.
-(chuckles)

266
00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:42,182
Dutch in six weeks,
but you never learned Yiddish?

267
00:14:42,216 --> 00:14:44,284
They don't speak it so much
my side of the park.

268
00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:45,386
Screw you.

269
00:14:46,487 --> 00:14:47,988
You homesick?

270
00:14:48,021 --> 00:14:49,423
Oh, you know it.

271
00:14:50,391 --> 00:14:53,394
Ever get the feeling our kind
isn't entirely welcome here?

272
00:14:53,427 --> 00:14:54,495
Physicists?

273
00:14:54,529 --> 00:14:56,029
'S funny.

274
00:14:56,063 --> 00:14:58,132
Not in the department.

275
00:14:58,165 --> 00:14:59,466
They're all Jewish too.

276
00:15:01,569 --> 00:15:02,970
Eat.

277
00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:07,408
There's a German
you have to seek out.

278
00:15:08,442 --> 00:15:10,978
-Heisenberg.
-Right.

279
00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,382
(Heisenberg speaking German)

280
00:15:20,154 --> 00:15:21,656
One might be led
to the presumption

281
00:15:21,689 --> 00:15:24,158
that behind the quantum world,

282
00:15:24,191 --> 00:15:28,061
there still hides a real world
in which causality holds,

283
00:15:28,095 --> 00:15:30,297
but such speculation seem to us,

284
00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,066
to say it explicitly, fruitless.
Thank you.

285
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,536
Have a great day.

286
00:15:37,471 --> 00:15:39,707
(indistinct chatter)

287
00:15:39,741 --> 00:15:41,442
-Wonderful.
-Thank you.

288
00:15:41,475 --> 00:15:42,710
Dr. Oppenheimer.

289
00:15:42,744 --> 00:15:44,679
Oppenheimer, yes.

290
00:15:44,712 --> 00:15:46,581
I liked your paper on molecules.

291
00:15:46,614 --> 00:15:48,115
Probably because
you inspired it.

292
00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:49,651
If I inspire anything else,
let me know.

293
00:15:49,684 --> 00:15:50,718
We could publish together.

294
00:15:50,752 --> 00:15:52,587
I have to get back to America.

295
00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:54,354
Why? There's no one there

296
00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,591
taking quantum mechanics
seriously.

297
00:15:56,624 --> 00:15:58,225
-That's exactly why.
-(sighs)

298
00:15:58,258 --> 00:16:00,695
He's pining for the canyons
of Manhattan.

299
00:16:00,728 --> 00:16:03,163
ROBERT:
Canyons of New Mexico.

300
00:16:03,197 --> 00:16:04,331
-You're from New Mexico?
-No.

301
00:16:04,364 --> 00:16:06,467
New York, but my brother
and I have a ranch

302
00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:08,603
outside Santa Fe. (inhales)

303
00:16:08,636 --> 00:16:11,004
That's the America
I miss right now.

304
00:16:11,038 --> 00:16:13,106
Then it's best you get home,
cowboys.

305
00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:14,742
-(Robert chuckles)
-(chuckles) That's him.

306
00:16:14,776 --> 00:16:18,212
No, me and horses.
I don't think so.

307
00:16:18,245 --> 00:16:20,380
-(Rabi chuckles)
-Nice to meet you.

308
00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:24,251
Did you ever encounter
Heisenberg again?

309
00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:27,187
Not in person, no, but, uh...

310
00:16:28,422 --> 00:16:30,525
...you might say
our paths crossed.

311
00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:34,294
On returning to America,
I accepted positions

312
00:16:34,328 --> 00:16:37,064
at both Caltech
and up at Berkeley.

313
00:16:37,097 --> 00:16:39,299
(indistinct chatter)

314
00:16:40,768 --> 00:16:42,402
WOMAN:
I got it, it's all right.

315
00:16:42,436 --> 00:16:44,539
(mellow music playing)

316
00:17:01,121 --> 00:17:03,156
ROBERT:
Dr. Lawrence, I presume?

317
00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:05,793
You must be Oppenheimer.

318
00:17:05,827 --> 00:17:07,361
Yes.

319
00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:09,731
I hear you want to start
a school of quantum theory.

320
00:17:09,764 --> 00:17:11,431
I am starting it. Next door.

321
00:17:11,465 --> 00:17:13,300
-They put you in there?
-I asked for it.

322
00:17:13,333 --> 00:17:15,402
Wanted to be close
to you experimentalists.

323
00:17:15,435 --> 00:17:17,805
Theory will get you
only so far, huh?

324
00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:19,807
We're building a machine
to accelerate electrons.

325
00:17:19,841 --> 00:17:22,544
-Magnificent.
-Would you like to help?

326
00:17:22,577 --> 00:17:24,411
Build it? Oh, no. (chuckles)

327
00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:25,547
No, no.

328
00:17:25,580 --> 00:17:28,148
But I am working on theories
I'd like to test with it.

329
00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:29,182
When do you start teaching?

330
00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:31,084
I've got my first in an hour.

331
00:17:31,118 --> 00:17:33,120
-Seminar?
-Pupil.

332
00:17:33,153 --> 00:17:36,390
One student? That's it?

333
00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:39,159
I'm teaching something
no one here has dreamt of.

334
00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,194
But once people start hearing
what you can do with it...

335
00:17:41,228 --> 00:17:42,697
There's no going back.

336
00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:44,832
(door opens)

337
00:17:44,866 --> 00:17:47,167
-Oh. I must have missed the...
-Ah. Lo...

338
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,202
-Mr. Lomanitz?
-Na.

339
00:17:50,404 --> 00:17:51,305
Yeah.

340
00:17:51,338 --> 00:17:53,440
Yes, this is it. Please.

341
00:17:53,473 --> 00:17:54,542
Take a seat.

342
00:17:55,677 --> 00:17:57,077
(clears throat)

343
00:17:59,413 --> 00:18:01,214
What do you know
about quantum mechanics?

344
00:18:01,248 --> 00:18:03,618
I have a grasp on the basics.

345
00:18:03,651 --> 00:18:05,218
Then you're doing it wrong.

346
00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:06,420
(classical music playing)

347
00:18:06,453 --> 00:18:08,723
Is light made up
of particles or waves?

348
00:18:08,756 --> 00:18:09,891
Quantum mechanics
says it's both.

349
00:18:09,924 --> 00:18:11,526
How could it be both?

350
00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:13,460
-It can't.
-It can't.

351
00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:18,365
But it is. It's paradoxical,
and yet, it works.

352
00:18:25,506 --> 00:18:26,507
Now.

353
00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:30,344
Thank you.

354
00:18:30,377 --> 00:18:33,380
Mr. Lomanitz.
You're gonna be okay.

355
00:18:33,413 --> 00:18:34,782
Mr. Snyder.

356
00:18:34,816 --> 00:18:36,350
Now let's consider a star.

357
00:18:36,383 --> 00:18:39,921
A star. A vast furnace
burning in outer space,

358
00:18:39,954 --> 00:18:43,357
fire pushing outwards
against its own gravity.

359
00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:44,826
Balanced.

360
00:18:44,859 --> 00:18:47,160
But if that furnace cools...

361
00:18:47,194 --> 00:18:48,495
(crackling)

362
00:18:48,529 --> 00:18:50,531
...and gravity starts winning,
it contracts.

363
00:18:51,532 --> 00:18:52,499
Density increases.

364
00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:53,735
Correct.

365
00:18:53,768 --> 00:18:54,936
Increasing gravity.

366
00:18:54,969 --> 00:18:56,470
Increasing density.

367
00:18:56,504 --> 00:18:58,640
-And?
-It's a vicious cycle until...

368
00:18:58,673 --> 00:19:00,307
what's the limit here?

369
00:19:01,475 --> 00:19:03,711
(chuckles) I don't know.
See where the math takes us.

370
00:19:03,745 --> 00:19:05,513
I guarantee it's somewhere
no one's been before.

371
00:19:05,546 --> 00:19:07,447
Me?

372
00:19:07,481 --> 00:19:09,651
Yes, you.
Your math is better than mine.

373
00:19:09,684 --> 00:19:11,351
(students laughing)

374
00:19:11,385 --> 00:19:13,487
SENATOR BARTLETT:
<i>Dr. Oppenheimer's file</i>

375
00:19:13,521 --> 00:19:15,923
<i>contained detail</i>
<i>of his activities in Berkeley.</i>

376
00:19:15,957 --> 00:19:17,424
Why would they have
started a file

377
00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:20,394
on Dr. Oppenheimer
before the war?

378
00:19:20,427 --> 00:19:22,897
Well, you'd have
to ask Mr. Hoover.

379
00:19:22,930 --> 00:19:24,799
I'm asking you, Admiral Strauss.

380
00:19:24,832 --> 00:19:27,769
Uh, my assumption is that

381
00:19:27,802 --> 00:19:30,938
it was connected to his, uh,

382
00:19:30,972 --> 00:19:33,508
left-wing political activities.

383
00:19:34,609 --> 00:19:36,276
LAWRENCE: You shouldn't
let them bring up politics

384
00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:37,645
in the classroom, Oppie.

385
00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:39,413
I wrote that.

386
00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:42,717
Lawrence, you embrace
the revolution in physics.

387
00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,552
Can't you see it
everywhere else?

388
00:19:44,585 --> 00:19:46,688
Picasso, Stravinsky,
Freud, Marx.

389
00:19:46,721 --> 00:19:48,321
LAWRENCE:
Well, this is America, Oppie.

390
00:19:48,355 --> 00:19:49,724
We had our revolution.

391
00:19:50,858 --> 00:19:53,360
Seriously,
keep it out of the lab.

392
00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:56,496
Well, out of the lab,
my landlady

393
00:19:56,531 --> 00:19:59,332
is having a discussion group
tonight. Interested?

394
00:19:59,366 --> 00:20:01,435
I have sampled
the Berkeley political scene.

395
00:20:01,468 --> 00:20:03,504
It's all just
philosophy post-grads

396
00:20:03,538 --> 00:20:05,840
and Communists
talking integration.

397
00:20:05,873 --> 00:20:07,542
You don't care
about integration.

398
00:20:07,575 --> 00:20:09,443
I want to vote for it,
not talk about it.

399
00:20:09,476 --> 00:20:11,478
'Specially on a Friday.
Come on, let's eat.

400
00:20:11,512 --> 00:20:13,848
(sighs)
I'm meeting my brother there.

401
00:20:13,881 --> 00:20:15,750
SENATOR BARTLETT:
<i>And how would these activities</i>

402
00:20:15,783 --> 00:20:16,918
<i>have come to the attention</i>

403
00:20:16,951 --> 00:20:17,952
of the FBI?

404
00:20:17,985 --> 00:20:19,954
Well, if I remember correctly,

405
00:20:19,987 --> 00:20:21,923
the FBI was taking
license plates

406
00:20:21,956 --> 00:20:24,291
outside suspected
Communist gatherings,

407
00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:26,326
<i>and his name popped up.</i>

408
00:20:33,901 --> 00:20:35,435
-Gotcha!
-(whispers): Jesus Christ.

409
00:20:35,469 --> 00:20:37,772
-Sorry. Hi, brother.
-Frank.

410
00:20:38,773 --> 00:20:40,508
Uh, you remember Jackie.

411
00:20:40,541 --> 00:20:42,009
Evening.

412
00:20:42,043 --> 00:20:44,011
Let's go. Come.

413
00:20:44,045 --> 00:20:46,614
MAN: Right over there,
right over there.

414
00:20:47,548 --> 00:20:50,551
Robert. I want you
to meet Chevalier.

415
00:20:50,585 --> 00:20:54,287
Dr. Haakon Chevalier,
Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.

416
00:20:54,321 --> 00:20:55,489
-Pleasure.
-Pleasure.

417
00:20:55,523 --> 00:20:56,824
This is my little brother,
Frank.

418
00:20:56,858 --> 00:20:58,059
-And this is...
-Hello.

419
00:20:58,092 --> 00:21:00,027
-Still Jackie.
-Hello, Still Jackie.

420
00:21:00,061 --> 00:21:02,029
Chevalier, you're in languages?

421
00:21:02,063 --> 00:21:03,798
And your reputation
precedes you.

422
00:21:03,831 --> 00:21:05,566
-What have you heard?
-MARY: Excuse me.

423
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,367
That you're teaching a radical
new approach to physics

424
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,636
I have no chance
of understanding,

425
00:21:08,669 --> 00:21:10,037
but I hadn't heard
you're a Party member.

426
00:21:10,071 --> 00:21:12,372
-Uh, I'm not.
-Oh, not yet.

427
00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:14,374
Frank and I are thinking of
joining. Just the other day,

428
00:21:14,407 --> 00:21:16,043
-I was saying...
-I support a range of causes.

429
00:21:16,077 --> 00:21:17,712
CHEVALIER:
The Spanish Civil War?

430
00:21:17,745 --> 00:21:19,479
A democratic republic
being overthrown

431
00:21:19,514 --> 00:21:20,815
by fascist thugs, who wouldn't?

432
00:21:20,848 --> 00:21:22,517
Our government.

433
00:21:22,550 --> 00:21:24,018
They think that socialism is
a bigger threat than fascism.

434
00:21:24,051 --> 00:21:25,553
ROBERT:
Not for long.

435
00:21:25,586 --> 00:21:27,387
Look at what the Nazis
are doing to the Jews.

436
00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:29,991
I send funds to colleagues
in Germany to emigrate.

437
00:21:30,024 --> 00:21:32,059
I have to do something.

438
00:21:32,093 --> 00:21:35,462
(sighs)
My own work is so abstract.

439
00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,064
What are you working on?

440
00:21:37,098 --> 00:21:39,033
What happens to the stars
when they die.

441
00:21:39,066 --> 00:21:40,500
Do stars die?

442
00:21:41,702 --> 00:21:43,004
Well, if they do,

443
00:21:43,037 --> 00:21:44,939
they'd cool, then collapse.

444
00:21:44,972 --> 00:21:47,608
In fact, the bigger the star,

445
00:21:47,642 --> 00:21:50,343
<i>-the more violent its demise.</i>
-(explosions)

446
00:21:50,377 --> 00:21:51,913
The gravity gets so concentrated

447
00:21:51,946 --> 00:21:54,916
it swallows everything.

448
00:21:54,949 --> 00:21:55,917
Everything, even light.

449
00:21:55,950 --> 00:21:57,118
Can that really happen?

450
00:21:57,151 --> 00:21:58,953
The math says it can.

451
00:21:58,986 --> 00:22:00,420
If we can get published,

452
00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:02,023
then perhaps one day,
an astronomer finds one.

453
00:22:02,056 --> 00:22:03,791
But right now,
all I have is theory,

454
00:22:03,825 --> 00:22:05,693
which can't impact
people's lives.

455
00:22:05,726 --> 00:22:07,995
Well, if you're going
to send money to Spain,

456
00:22:08,029 --> 00:22:09,597
do it through
the Communist Party.

457
00:22:09,630 --> 00:22:10,965
They can get it
to the front lines.

458
00:22:10,998 --> 00:22:13,400
Mary sent me with these.

459
00:22:14,101 --> 00:22:16,904
-I'm Jean.
-Robert.

460
00:22:16,938 --> 00:22:18,438
CHEVALIER:
Haakon Chevalier.

461
00:22:18,471 --> 00:22:20,007
The union meeting at Serber's
last month?

462
00:22:20,041 --> 00:22:21,441
Right, right, yes.

463
00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:22,844
Oh, thank you.

464
00:22:22,877 --> 00:22:25,112
CHEVALIER: Robert here says
he's not a Communist.

465
00:22:25,146 --> 00:22:27,447
Well, then he doesn't know
enough about it.

466
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,851
Oh, I've read <i>Das Kapital,</i>
all three volumes.

467
00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:31,519
Does that count?

468
00:22:31,552 --> 00:22:33,521
It would make you better read
than most party members.

469
00:22:33,554 --> 00:22:35,857
Turgid stuff.
There's some thinking, um,

470
00:22:35,890 --> 00:22:37,058
"Ownership is theft."

471
00:22:37,091 --> 00:22:38,993
-"Property."
-"Property"?

472
00:22:39,026 --> 00:22:40,828
"Property," not "ownership."

473
00:22:40,862 --> 00:22:42,897
I'm sorry, I read it
in the original German.

474
00:22:42,930 --> 00:22:45,600
CHEVALIER:
(chuckles) Well.

475
00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:47,835
It's not about the book.

476
00:22:47,869 --> 00:22:50,872
It's about the ideas.
And you sound uncommitted.

477
00:22:50,905 --> 00:22:52,540
Well, I'm committed
to thinking freely

478
00:22:52,573 --> 00:22:55,009
about how to improve our world.

479
00:22:55,042 --> 00:22:57,144
Why limit yourself to one dogma?

480
00:22:57,178 --> 00:23:00,147
You're a physicist,
you pick and choose rules?

481
00:23:00,181 --> 00:23:01,749
Or do you use the discipline

482
00:23:01,782 --> 00:23:03,918
to channel your energies
into progress?

483
00:23:03,951 --> 00:23:06,354
I like a little wiggle room.

484
00:23:07,454 --> 00:23:09,657
Do you always
tow the party line?

485
00:23:11,025 --> 00:23:12,793
I like my wiggle room too.

486
00:23:14,528 --> 00:23:16,697
(Jean breathing heavily)

487
00:23:20,735 --> 00:23:21,769
(exhales deeply)

488
00:23:22,937 --> 00:23:25,472
-ROBERT: What?
-(chuckles)

489
00:23:25,506 --> 00:23:26,674
Wait, wait, wait.

490
00:23:30,578 --> 00:23:32,179
JEAN:
Unexpected.

491
00:23:32,213 --> 00:23:34,115
-What?
-For a physicist.

492
00:23:34,148 --> 00:23:36,918
You only have a shelf
full of Freud?

493
00:23:36,951 --> 00:23:39,820
Well, actually,
my background's more...

494
00:23:39,854 --> 00:23:41,689
Uh, Jungian?

495
00:23:42,823 --> 00:23:43,925
You know analysis?

496
00:23:43,958 --> 00:23:46,493
When I was in post-grad
at Cambridge,

497
00:23:46,527 --> 00:23:47,828
I had a little trouble.

498
00:23:48,829 --> 00:23:51,565
-I'll bite.
-I tried to poison my tutor.

499
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:52,600
Did you hate him?

500
00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:54,101
I liked him very much.

501
00:23:54,135 --> 00:23:56,037
You just needed to get laid.

502
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:57,638
Took my analyst two years,

503
00:23:57,672 --> 00:23:59,607
and I don't think they
ever put it that succinctly.

504
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,975
You have everyone convinced

505
00:24:01,008 --> 00:24:03,744
you're more complicated
than you actually are.

506
00:24:03,778 --> 00:24:05,780
We're all simple souls, I guess.

507
00:24:05,813 --> 00:24:06,981
I'm not.

508
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:10,885
What's this?

509
00:24:10,918 --> 00:24:12,485
Sanskrit.

510
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,821
You can read this?

511
00:24:13,854 --> 00:24:15,656
I'm learning.

512
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:21,662
Read this.

513
00:24:23,097 --> 00:24:24,732
Well, in this part,

514
00:24:24,765 --> 00:24:26,968
Vishnu reveals
his multi-armed self...

515
00:24:27,001 --> 00:24:28,002
No.

516
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:30,938
Read the words.

517
00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:37,477
"And now I am become Death.

518
00:24:42,917 --> 00:24:44,652
Destroyer of worlds."

519
00:24:45,586 --> 00:24:47,088
(thunder rumbling)

520
00:24:48,823 --> 00:24:50,891
(wind howling)

521
00:24:52,226 --> 00:24:54,695
(disquieting music playing)

522
00:25:09,143 --> 00:25:11,545
(thunder rumbling)

523
00:25:15,583 --> 00:25:16,917
This'll do. (clicks tongue)

524
00:25:23,057 --> 00:25:24,658
It'll break before dawn.

525
00:25:24,692 --> 00:25:28,062
Air cools overnight,
just before dawn, it breaks.

526
00:25:30,731 --> 00:25:32,666
(clicks tongue) Come.

527
00:25:33,801 --> 00:25:36,003
(laughter)

528
00:25:38,706 --> 00:25:42,176
Ah. So, I'm getting married.

529
00:25:42,209 --> 00:25:43,811
-Frank. Congratulations!
-Thank you.

530
00:25:43,844 --> 00:25:45,646
-Thank you.
-To Jackie?

531
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,049
-Yeah, to Jackie.
-(clears throat)

532
00:25:48,082 --> 00:25:49,183
The waitress.

533
00:25:49,216 --> 00:25:51,185
Oppie, you're right.
It's lettin' up.

534
00:25:51,218 --> 00:25:53,654
I'm gonna go see
if there's any stars.

535
00:25:53,687 --> 00:25:55,723
All your talk
about the common man,

536
00:25:55,756 --> 00:25:57,258
but Jackie's not good enough
for you, hmm?

537
00:25:57,291 --> 00:25:58,325
ROBERT:
Mm-mm.

538
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,860
We join the Party and you can't

539
00:25:59,894 --> 00:26:01,662
-hide your disapproval. Why?
-Oh, now, I...

540
00:26:01,695 --> 00:26:02,763
Is that because that's
supposed to be your thing?

541
00:26:02,797 --> 00:26:04,331
I haven't joined
the Party, Frank.

542
00:26:04,365 --> 00:26:06,901
And I don't think she should
have convinced you to either.

543
00:26:06,934 --> 00:26:08,669
Half of the faculty
is Communist.

544
00:26:08,702 --> 00:26:09,770
Not that half.

545
00:26:11,105 --> 00:26:13,841
I'm your brother, Frank,
and I want you to be cautious.

546
00:26:13,874 --> 00:26:15,576
And I want to wring your neck.

547
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:17,945
(breath shudders)

548
00:26:17,978 --> 00:26:20,881
I won't live my life
afraid to make a mistake.

549
00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:26,087
You're happy, I'm happy.

550
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,655
So then I'm happy you're happy

551
00:26:27,688 --> 00:26:29,023
-that I'm happy.
-(chuckles)

552
00:26:31,325 --> 00:26:33,260
(mysterious music playing)

553
00:26:33,294 --> 00:26:34,895
LAWRENCE:
I feel like I could see

554
00:26:34,929 --> 00:26:37,031
one of those dark stars
that you're working on.

555
00:26:37,064 --> 00:26:39,633
You can't.
That's the whole point.

556
00:26:40,301 --> 00:26:42,002
Their gravity swallows light.

557
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:46,340
It's like a kind of
hole in space.

558
00:26:46,373 --> 00:26:47,708
Is Frank okay?

559
00:26:47,741 --> 00:26:50,144
Yes. He just has
a shitty brother.

560
00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:52,947
It is special here.

561
00:26:55,316 --> 00:26:57,785
When I was a kid,

562
00:26:57,818 --> 00:27:00,855
I thought if I could find a way

563
00:27:00,888 --> 00:27:05,259
to combine physics
and New Mexico,

564
00:27:05,292 --> 00:27:07,828
my life would be perfect.
(laughs)

565
00:27:08,896 --> 00:27:10,164
Little remote for that.

566
00:27:10,197 --> 00:27:11,332
Yes.

567
00:27:11,365 --> 00:27:13,033
Let's get some sleep.

568
00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:15,402
ROBERT:
That mesa we saw today,

569
00:27:15,436 --> 00:27:17,938
one of my favorite places
in the world.

570
00:27:18,772 --> 00:27:20,241
And tomorrow we'll climb it.

571
00:27:20,274 --> 00:27:21,709
LAWRENCE:
What's it called?

572
00:27:22,743 --> 00:27:24,812
ROBERT:
Los Alamos.

573
00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:29,917
I didn't expect
to see you today.

574
00:27:31,085 --> 00:27:32,920
Do I have to make
an appointment?

575
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:36,991
BARBER:
Hey! Hey, get back here!

576
00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:38,159
Alvarez?

577
00:27:43,931 --> 00:27:46,767
ALVAREZ:
Oppie! Oppie!

578
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,802
ROBERT:
What? What is it?

579
00:27:48,836 --> 00:27:50,437
They've done it.
They've done it.

580
00:27:50,471 --> 00:27:51,739
Hahn and Strassmann in Germany.

581
00:27:51,772 --> 00:27:53,941
They split the uranium nucleus.

582
00:27:54,808 --> 00:27:56,677
LAWRENCE:
How?

583
00:27:57,411 --> 00:27:59,313
Bombard it with neutrons.

584
00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:00,481
ALVAREZ:
It's a nuclear fission.

585
00:28:00,515 --> 00:28:02,149
They did it,
they split the atom.

586
00:28:02,183 --> 00:28:03,751
It's not possible.

587
00:28:03,784 --> 00:28:06,086
(stimulating music playing)

588
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:11,692
I'm gonna try to reproduce it.

589
00:28:18,332 --> 00:28:20,267
See? Can't be done.

590
00:28:21,368 --> 00:28:24,772
LAWRENCE:
Very elegant. Quite clear.

591
00:28:24,805 --> 00:28:27,441
-There's just one problem.
-Where?

592
00:28:27,474 --> 00:28:29,276
Next door.

593
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,245
Alvarez did it.

594
00:28:31,278 --> 00:28:33,414
-But then look...
-(pulsing)

595
00:28:33,447 --> 00:28:36,784
...these fission pulses,
they're massive.

596
00:28:36,817 --> 00:28:40,087
I've seen 30 of these
in the past ten minutes.

597
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,957
Theory will take you
only so far.

598
00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:44,425
(gasps)

599
00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:46,460
During the process...

600
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:48,229
extra neutrons boil off,

601
00:28:48,262 --> 00:28:51,432
which could be used to split
other uranium atoms.

602
00:28:51,465 --> 00:28:52,866
Chain reaction.

603
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:54,536
You're thinkin'
what I'm thinkin'.

604
00:28:54,569 --> 00:28:57,338
You, me, and every other
physicist around the world

605
00:28:57,371 --> 00:28:58,872
who's seen the news.

606
00:28:59,574 --> 00:29:01,375
I'm... what?
What are we all thinking?

607
00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:05,179
A bomb, Alvarez.

608
00:29:06,347 --> 00:29:08,048
A bomb.

609
00:29:08,082 --> 00:29:11,285
I told you, Robert,
no more fucking flowers.

610
00:29:12,886 --> 00:29:14,421
I don't understand
what you want from me.

611
00:29:14,455 --> 00:29:16,223
I don't want anything from you.

612
00:29:17,224 --> 00:29:19,260
Well, you say that
and then you call.

613
00:29:19,293 --> 00:29:21,895
Well, don't answer.

614
00:29:21,929 --> 00:29:23,931
I'll always answer.

615
00:29:29,203 --> 00:29:30,137
Fine.

616
00:29:30,170 --> 00:29:32,873
Just no more flowers.
(breathing heavily)

617
00:29:33,907 --> 00:29:35,276
You're not coming?

618
00:29:36,443 --> 00:29:39,246
CHEVALIER: You have to know
when you're beaten, Robert.

619
00:29:41,549 --> 00:29:43,284
It's not that simple, Hoke.

620
00:29:43,317 --> 00:29:45,486
MAN: Chevalier,
good to see you. It's...

621
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,854
Ah, Barbara, good to see you

622
00:29:46,887 --> 00:29:49,356
and the illustrious
Dr. Oppenheimer.

623
00:29:49,390 --> 00:29:50,558
I'm Eltenton.

624
00:29:50,592 --> 00:29:51,959
-ROBERT: Oh, pleasure.
-Please, please.

625
00:29:51,992 --> 00:29:53,160
Now, might you say a word

626
00:29:53,193 --> 00:29:55,929
about organized labor
on campuses, yes?

627
00:29:55,963 --> 00:29:57,498
Coming through! Coming through!

628
00:29:57,532 --> 00:29:59,099
-(chanting): F.A.E.C.T.!
-I work at Shell.

629
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:01,135
We've signed up chemists,
we've signed up engineers,

630
00:30:01,168 --> 00:30:03,037
so why not scientists
in academia?

631
00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:05,973
(chanting):
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

632
00:30:06,006 --> 00:30:09,276
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

633
00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:10,944
Oppie! Oppie!

634
00:30:10,978 --> 00:30:13,881
-Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!
-(cheers and applause)

635
00:30:17,051 --> 00:30:21,021
Teachers are unionized.
Why not professors?

636
00:30:21,055 --> 00:30:22,489
Don't you have somewhere to be?

637
00:30:22,524 --> 00:30:24,358
Lawrence,
academics have rights too.

638
00:30:24,391 --> 00:30:26,894
Look, it's not that.
I've got a group coming.

639
00:30:26,927 --> 00:30:30,130
-Well, I'll sit in.
-Not this one.

640
00:30:32,433 --> 00:30:33,834
(door opens)

641
00:30:36,403 --> 00:30:38,072
ROBERT:
Richard. Dr. Bush.

642
00:30:38,105 --> 00:30:40,174
What brings you two up north?

643
00:30:42,276 --> 00:30:44,345
(somber music playing)

644
00:30:46,648 --> 00:30:48,015
(sighs)

645
00:30:49,651 --> 00:30:51,018
Richard, you tell Ruth

646
00:30:51,051 --> 00:30:52,319
I'll be down
to Pasadena Thursday.

647
00:30:58,125 --> 00:30:59,226
(sighs)

648
00:31:01,328 --> 00:31:03,964
STUDENT 1: Your paper
on black holes is in!

649
00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:05,966
-STUDENT 2: Oppie!
-(applause)

650
00:31:05,999 --> 00:31:09,637
Where's Hartland?
Get Hartland. Get Hartland.

651
00:31:09,671 --> 00:31:11,939
LOMANITZ:
September 1st, 1939,

652
00:31:11,972 --> 00:31:14,208
the world's gonna
remember this day.

653
00:31:14,241 --> 00:31:15,109
(Robert chuckles)

654
00:31:15,142 --> 00:31:16,611
Oh, Hartland.
Our paper, it's in print.

655
00:31:16,644 --> 00:31:19,380
SNYDER:
You've been upstaged.

656
00:31:22,983 --> 00:31:25,520
During the Battle of Britain,
I found myself

657
00:31:25,553 --> 00:31:28,288
increasingly out of sympathy
with the (clears throat)

658
00:31:28,322 --> 00:31:31,325
policy of neutrality
that Communists advocated.

659
00:31:31,358 --> 00:31:35,162
Right after Hitler invaded
Russia and we became allies,

660
00:31:35,195 --> 00:31:37,231
these Communist sympathies,
did they return?

661
00:31:37,264 --> 00:31:38,298
No.

662
00:31:39,433 --> 00:31:43,036
I need to make clear that
my changing views on Russia

663
00:31:43,070 --> 00:31:44,304
did not mean a sharp break

664
00:31:44,338 --> 00:31:46,407
from those who held
different views.

665
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,009
For a year or two,
and during a previous marriage,

666
00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:52,346
my wife Kitty had been
a Communist Party member.

667
00:31:53,347 --> 00:31:54,948
(Kitty laughing)

668
00:31:54,982 --> 00:31:56,316
KITTY:
Oop!

669
00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:58,152
This way. This is where
I keep the good stuff.

670
00:31:58,185 --> 00:32:00,187
Well, I thought
this was the Tolmans' house.

671
00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:02,423
I live with them
while I'm at Caltech.

672
00:32:02,456 --> 00:32:03,957
Do you two need anything?

673
00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:05,459
ROBERT:
We're good, Ruthie.

674
00:32:06,561 --> 00:32:09,196
So, you're a biologist.

675
00:32:09,229 --> 00:32:12,433
Well, somehow
I have graduated to housewife.

676
00:32:12,466 --> 00:32:15,603
Can you explain
quantum mechanics to me?

677
00:32:15,637 --> 00:32:16,671
Seems baffling.

678
00:32:16,704 --> 00:32:18,405
Yes, it is.

679
00:32:19,507 --> 00:32:22,309
Well, this glass,

680
00:32:22,342 --> 00:32:23,243
this drink...

681
00:32:23,277 --> 00:32:26,380
-(knocks countertop)
-...this countertop,

682
00:32:26,413 --> 00:32:29,517
uh, our bodies...

683
00:32:29,551 --> 00:32:31,452
all of it.

684
00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:34,054
It's mostly empty space.

685
00:32:34,087 --> 00:32:36,591
Groupings of tiny energy waves
bound together.

686
00:32:36,624 --> 00:32:38,492
By what?

687
00:32:38,526 --> 00:32:42,095
Forces of attraction
strong enough to convince us

688
00:32:42,129 --> 00:32:44,331
that matter is solid.

689
00:32:44,364 --> 00:32:47,501
Stop my body
passing through yours.

690
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,075
(indistinct chatter)

691
00:32:59,246 --> 00:33:00,748
You're married to Dr. Harrison.

692
00:33:00,782 --> 00:33:02,517
Not very.

693
00:33:04,552 --> 00:33:08,255
There is someone that I feel...

694
00:33:08,288 --> 00:33:09,724
Does she feel the same way?

695
00:33:09,757 --> 00:33:13,595
Sometimes. Not enough.

696
00:33:14,796 --> 00:33:17,765
You know,
I'm going to New Mexico.

697
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:19,601
To my ranch, with friends.

698
00:33:19,634 --> 00:33:21,001
You should come.

699
00:33:21,803 --> 00:33:23,638
I meant with your husband.

700
00:33:23,671 --> 00:33:25,239
Yes, you did.

701
00:33:25,272 --> 00:33:28,175
'Cause you know it won't make
a bit of difference.

702
00:33:28,208 --> 00:33:30,410
(sentimental music playing)

703
00:33:32,145 --> 00:33:33,648
Why did you marry him?

704
00:33:33,681 --> 00:33:37,217
I was lost and he was kind.

705
00:33:39,386 --> 00:33:40,254
Lost?

706
00:33:40,287 --> 00:33:43,791
Well, my previous husband
had died, and...

707
00:33:43,825 --> 00:33:46,260
at 28, I wasn't really ready
to be a widow.

708
00:33:46,293 --> 00:33:48,295
-Who was your first husband?
-Nobody.

709
00:33:48,328 --> 00:33:50,798
But my second husband
was Joe Dallet.

710
00:33:50,832 --> 00:33:53,801
He was, um, from money,
like me, but...

711
00:33:53,835 --> 00:33:56,771
he was a union organizer
in Youngstown, Ohio.

712
00:33:56,804 --> 00:33:58,071
Fell hard.

713
00:33:58,105 --> 00:33:59,373
(chuckles) How hard?

714
00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:01,074
Hard enough to spend
the next four years

715
00:34:01,108 --> 00:34:02,442
living off beans and pancakes,

716
00:34:02,476 --> 00:34:05,245
handing out the <i>Daily Worker</i>
at factory gates.

717
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,782
By 36, I just told Joe
I couldn't take it anymore.

718
00:34:07,815 --> 00:34:09,684
Quit the Party and a year later,

719
00:34:09,717 --> 00:34:13,253
I wanted him back, so...
Him, not the <i>Daily Worker.</i>

720
00:34:13,287 --> 00:34:15,422
And he said, "Swell, I'll meet
you on my way to Spain."

721
00:34:15,455 --> 00:34:17,157
He went to fight
for the Loyalists?

722
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:19,293
And then he went to
the brigades and I waited.

723
00:34:19,326 --> 00:34:20,394
And...

724
00:34:21,261 --> 00:34:22,630
Joe got himself killed

725
00:34:22,664 --> 00:34:25,065
first time he popped his head
out of the trench.

726
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,836
Ideology got Joe killed.
For nothing.

727
00:34:28,870 --> 00:34:30,738
Spanish Republic isn't nothing.

728
00:34:30,772 --> 00:34:31,873
My husband offered
both our futures

729
00:34:31,906 --> 00:34:33,373
to stop one fascist bullet

730
00:34:33,407 --> 00:34:35,577
from embedding itself
in a mudbank.

731
00:34:36,476 --> 00:34:38,312
That's the definition
of nothing.

732
00:34:38,345 --> 00:34:40,347
Seems a little reductive.

733
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:42,115
Pragmatic.

734
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:44,586
Now here I am.

735
00:34:46,821 --> 00:34:48,422
Wherever the hell this is.

736
00:34:49,791 --> 00:34:52,627
(sentimental music continues)

737
00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:58,733
I didn't want you to hear it
from anyone else.

738
00:34:58,766 --> 00:35:01,134
(crying softly)

739
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:04,505
Least you didn't
bring me flowers. (sniffles)

740
00:35:05,607 --> 00:35:07,742
(chuckles)

741
00:35:07,775 --> 00:35:09,611
(tender music playing)

742
00:35:09,644 --> 00:35:13,213
We both know I'm not
what you want, Jean.

743
00:35:14,247 --> 00:35:16,884
Yeah, but it's a door closing.

744
00:35:16,918 --> 00:35:18,318
No.

745
00:35:19,887 --> 00:35:22,255
Not as far as I'm concerned, no.

746
00:35:23,457 --> 00:35:25,192
You knocked her up, fast work.

747
00:35:25,225 --> 00:35:27,862
-Can't keep a good man down.
-(scoffs)

748
00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:29,897
I meant her.

749
00:35:29,931 --> 00:35:31,933
She knew what she wanted.

750
00:35:31,966 --> 00:35:33,901
What about the husband?

751
00:35:33,935 --> 00:35:35,402
We talked, um,

752
00:35:35,435 --> 00:35:37,371
they're getting a divorce, so...

753
00:35:37,404 --> 00:35:41,174
we can get married
before she starts showing.

754
00:35:41,208 --> 00:35:42,677
How civilized.

755
00:35:44,646 --> 00:35:45,747
You idiot.

756
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:47,548
This is your community.

757
00:35:47,582 --> 00:35:50,518
You think the rules
don't apply to the golden boy?

758
00:35:51,686 --> 00:35:53,320
Brilliance makes up for a lot.

759
00:35:53,353 --> 00:35:55,857
Don't alienate the only people
in the world

760
00:35:55,890 --> 00:35:57,558
that understand what you do.

761
00:35:59,292 --> 00:36:00,662
One day you might need them.

762
00:36:00,695 --> 00:36:03,430
F.A.E.C.T. MEMBERS (chanting):
F.A.E.C.T.!

763
00:36:03,463 --> 00:36:04,666
ROBERT:
The Federation of Architects,

764
00:36:04,699 --> 00:36:07,835
Engineers, Chemists
and Technicians.

765
00:36:07,869 --> 00:36:09,369
(chanting stops)

766
00:36:14,274 --> 00:36:16,811
Lomanitz,
what do you get paid a month?

767
00:36:16,844 --> 00:36:17,979
That's not the point, Lawrence.

768
00:36:18,012 --> 00:36:20,313
What do any of you
have in common

769
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:22,950
with farm laborers
and dock workers?

770
00:36:22,984 --> 00:36:24,552
LOMANITZ:
Plenty.

771
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:28,156
Everybody out. Now!

772
00:36:31,993 --> 00:36:33,393
Not you.

773
00:36:36,263 --> 00:36:39,299
(door closes)

774
00:36:39,332 --> 00:36:40,300
What are you doing?

775
00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,003
It's a trade union.

776
00:36:42,036 --> 00:36:43,971
Filled with Communists.

777
00:36:44,005 --> 00:36:45,707
So? I haven't joined the Party.

778
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:47,842
They won't let me
bring you onto the project

779
00:36:47,875 --> 00:36:49,577
because of this shit.

780
00:36:49,610 --> 00:36:51,378
They won't even let me
tell you what the project is.

781
00:36:51,411 --> 00:36:53,848
Oh. (scoffs)
I know what the project is.

782
00:36:53,881 --> 00:36:54,949
Oh, really?

783
00:36:54,982 --> 00:36:56,283
We've all heard about Einstein

784
00:36:56,316 --> 00:36:57,585
and Szilard's letter
to Roosevelt

785
00:36:57,618 --> 00:36:59,419
warning him the Germans
could make a bomb,

786
00:36:59,453 --> 00:37:02,322
and I know what it means
for the Nazis to have a bomb.

787
00:37:02,355 --> 00:37:03,725
Oh, and I don't?

788
00:37:03,758 --> 00:37:06,393
It's not your people
they're herding into camps.

789
00:37:07,494 --> 00:37:08,495
It's mine.

790
00:37:08,529 --> 00:37:11,666
You think that I tell them
about your politics.

791
00:37:12,767 --> 00:37:15,335
The next time you're
coming home from a meeting,

792
00:37:15,368 --> 00:37:17,404
why don't you take a look
in the rearview mirror?

793
00:37:17,437 --> 00:37:19,507
Listen to the sounds
on your phone line

794
00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:22,610
and stop being so goddamn naive.

795
00:37:23,911 --> 00:37:25,445
Why would they care what I do?

796
00:37:25,479 --> 00:37:27,447
(scoffs) Because you're
not just self-important,

797
00:37:27,481 --> 00:37:29,650
you're actually important.

798
00:37:30,885 --> 00:37:32,252
Okay.

799
00:37:32,887 --> 00:37:35,890
Okay. I get it.

800
00:37:35,923 --> 00:37:37,992
If you could
just be a little more...

801
00:37:38,025 --> 00:37:39,527
Pragmatic.

802
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,661
I'll talk to Lomanitz,
I'll talk to the others,

803
00:37:40,695 --> 00:37:42,797
you don't have to worry.
It's done.

804
00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:44,599
Lawrence.

805
00:37:49,436 --> 00:37:51,438
Then welcome to the war.

806
00:37:51,471 --> 00:37:53,775
ROBERT: I filled out my first
security questionnaire

807
00:37:53,808 --> 00:37:55,076
and was informed

808
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:56,911
that my involvement
with left-wing groups

809
00:37:56,944 --> 00:38:00,882
would not prove a bar to my
working on the atomic program.

810
00:38:00,915 --> 00:38:03,651
SENATOR PASTORE: <i>Why were</i>
<i>his Communist associations</i>

811
00:38:03,684 --> 00:38:06,788
not seen as a security risk
during the war?

812
00:38:06,821 --> 00:38:08,556
Senator, I can't possibly answer

813
00:38:08,589 --> 00:38:11,926
for security clearance granted
years before I ever met the man.

814
00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:13,961
Fine. What about after?

815
00:38:13,995 --> 00:38:15,930
After the war, Dr. Oppenheimer

816
00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:19,734
was the most respected
scientific voice in the world.

817
00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:21,803
That's why I asked him
to run the Institute,

818
00:38:21,836 --> 00:38:24,939
that's why he advised
the Atomic Energy Commission.

819
00:38:24,972 --> 00:38:26,040
Simple as that.

820
00:38:26,073 --> 00:38:28,676
What are they accusing me of?

821
00:38:28,709 --> 00:38:30,477
I think they just want
to know what happened

822
00:38:30,511 --> 00:38:33,014
between 1947 and 1954
to change your mind

823
00:38:33,047 --> 00:38:35,082
on Oppenheimer's
security clearance.

824
00:38:35,116 --> 00:38:37,852
I didn't.
I was chair of the AEC,

825
00:38:37,885 --> 00:38:41,454
but it wasn't me that brought
the charges against Robert.

826
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:42,723
-Who did?
-Some former staff member

827
00:38:42,757 --> 00:38:44,692
of the Joint
Congressional Committee.

828
00:38:44,725 --> 00:38:47,795
He was a rabid anti-Communist
named Borden.

829
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:50,131
He wrote to the FBI
demanding they take action.

830
00:38:50,164 --> 00:38:52,700
The FBI? Why not go
to the AEC, direct?

831
00:38:52,733 --> 00:38:55,435
Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?

832
00:38:55,468 --> 00:38:57,905
What did Borden have
against Oppenheimer?

833
00:38:57,939 --> 00:38:59,774
This was the McCarthy Era.

834
00:38:59,807 --> 00:39:04,712
People hounded out of jobs
for any hint of red. And then,

835
00:39:04,745 --> 00:39:06,413
<i>reading Oppenheimer's</i>
<i>security file,</i>

836
00:39:06,446 --> 00:39:08,616
<i>his Communist brother,</i>
<i>sister-in-law,</i>

837
00:39:08,649 --> 00:39:10,718
<i>fiancée, best friend, wife.</i>

838
00:39:10,751 --> 00:39:13,087
That's before we even
get to the Chevalier incident.

839
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,858
But how would Borden have access
to Oppenheimer's security file?

840
00:39:16,891 --> 00:39:18,559
Because somebody gave it to him.

841
00:39:19,727 --> 00:39:22,395
Somebody who wanted
Robert silenced.

842
00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,031
-Who?
-Who knows?

843
00:39:24,065 --> 00:39:26,601
Robert didn't take care
not to upset

844
00:39:26,634 --> 00:39:28,870
the power brokers in Washington.

845
00:39:28,903 --> 00:39:31,772
His opinions on the atom
became definitive

846
00:39:31,806 --> 00:39:34,709
and he wasn't always patient
with us mere mortals.

847
00:39:34,742 --> 00:39:35,910
(chuckles softly)

848
00:39:38,112 --> 00:39:40,548
I came in for plenty
of harsh treatment.

849
00:39:40,581 --> 00:39:43,751
There was an AEC vote

850
00:39:43,784 --> 00:39:45,753
on the export of isotopes
to Norway,

851
00:39:45,786 --> 00:39:48,756
<i>and they drafted in Robert</i>
<i>to make me look like a fool.</i>

852
00:39:48,789 --> 00:39:50,490
CONGRESSMAN:
But, Dr. Oppenheimer,

853
00:39:50,524 --> 00:39:52,627
we've already heard
from Admiral Strauss that

854
00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:55,495
these isotopes could be
useful to our enemies

855
00:39:55,529 --> 00:39:56,831
in the production
of atomic weapons.

856
00:39:56,864 --> 00:39:58,733
ROBERT: Congressmen,
you could use a shovel

857
00:39:58,766 --> 00:40:00,201
-in making atomic weapons.
-(laughter)

858
00:40:00,234 --> 00:40:01,434
In fact, you do.

859
00:40:01,468 --> 00:40:03,004
You could use a bottle of beer

860
00:40:03,037 --> 00:40:04,437
in making atomic weapons.

861
00:40:04,471 --> 00:40:05,940
In fact, you do.

862
00:40:05,973 --> 00:40:08,910
I say isotopes are less useful
than electronic components

863
00:40:08,943 --> 00:40:11,712
but more useful than a sandwich.

864
00:40:11,746 --> 00:40:13,514
(all laughing)

865
00:40:14,949 --> 00:40:16,817
STRAUSS: <i>Genius is</i>
<i>no guarantee of wisdom.</i>

866
00:40:17,818 --> 00:40:20,588
How could this man
who saw so much be so blind?

867
00:40:21,555 --> 00:40:24,926
(baby crying)

868
00:40:30,097 --> 00:40:31,532
Kitty?

869
00:40:36,237 --> 00:40:38,172
Kitty?

870
00:40:38,205 --> 00:40:41,609
Kitty, the project...

871
00:40:42,576 --> 00:40:45,179
I'm in. I'm in.

872
00:40:45,212 --> 00:40:46,981
Let's celebrate. (sighs)

873
00:40:49,283 --> 00:40:51,218
(baby continues crying)

874
00:40:51,252 --> 00:40:52,586
(Kitty moans)

875
00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:54,221
Shouldn't you go to him?

876
00:40:54,255 --> 00:40:55,690
(uneasy music playing)

877
00:40:58,826 --> 00:41:01,996
I have been going to him
all fucking day.

878
00:41:11,138 --> 00:41:12,807
(baby crying)

879
00:41:17,011 --> 00:41:19,013
(shushing)

880
00:41:19,046 --> 00:41:20,480
(knock at door)

881
00:41:25,753 --> 00:41:27,487
BARBARA:
Come here, darling.

882
00:41:28,589 --> 00:41:30,157
I don't know how to say this.

883
00:41:30,191 --> 00:41:32,893
I'm... I'm ashamed to ask.

884
00:41:32,927 --> 00:41:34,862
CHEVALIER:
Anything.

885
00:41:34,895 --> 00:41:35,696
Take Peter.

886
00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:38,766
-Sure.
-No, for-for a while, Hoke.

887
00:41:38,799 --> 00:41:40,768
A while.

888
00:41:42,336 --> 00:41:44,138
Does Kitty know you're here?

889
00:41:44,171 --> 00:41:45,906
Yes, of course she knows.

890
00:41:46,774 --> 00:41:48,776
Of course she knows. (sighs)

891
00:41:48,809 --> 00:41:52,513
We're awful people.
Selfish, awful people.

892
00:41:54,015 --> 00:41:55,016
Forget I asked.

893
00:41:55,049 --> 00:41:56,884
Selfish, awful people,

894
00:41:56,917 --> 00:41:59,320
they don't know
they're selfish and awful.

895
00:41:59,353 --> 00:42:01,922
Sit, sit, sit.

896
00:42:02,957 --> 00:42:07,061
Robert, you see beyond
the world we live in.

897
00:42:08,763 --> 00:42:11,332
There is a price
to be paid for that.

898
00:42:11,365 --> 00:42:12,933
Of course we'll help you.

899
00:42:14,368 --> 00:42:16,771
(wistful music playing)

900
00:42:23,878 --> 00:42:26,047
KITTY:
Everything's changing, Robert.

901
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,049
Having a child was always
going to change...

902
00:42:28,082 --> 00:42:32,186
No, the world, it's pivoting
in some new direction.

903
00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:34,622
It's reforming.

904
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:38,092
This is your moment.

905
00:42:39,260 --> 00:42:40,928
We're putting together a group
to study feasibility...

906
00:42:40,961 --> 00:42:43,764
"We" shouldn't be
doing anything. You should.

907
00:42:44,665 --> 00:42:46,801
Lawrence won't get this done.

908
00:42:46,834 --> 00:42:48,969
Or Tolman or Rabi. You will.

909
00:42:52,206 --> 00:42:53,841
(indistinct chatter)

910
00:42:57,812 --> 00:42:59,947
ROBERT:
Who are the uniforms?

911
00:43:00,748 --> 00:43:02,650
I thought you might know.

912
00:43:03,684 --> 00:43:05,953
-(door opens)
-MAN: Dr. Oppenheimer.

913
00:43:05,986 --> 00:43:07,955
I'm Colonel Groves.

914
00:43:07,988 --> 00:43:10,224
This is Lieutenant
Colonel Nichols.

915
00:43:10,257 --> 00:43:11,759
Have that dry-cleaned.

916
00:43:15,329 --> 00:43:17,631
(door opens, closes)

917
00:43:17,665 --> 00:43:19,733
Well, if that's how you treat
Lieutenant Colonel,

918
00:43:19,767 --> 00:43:23,137
I'd hate to see how you treat
a humble physicist.

919
00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:25,239
Ah, if I ever meet one,
I'll let you know.

920
00:43:25,272 --> 00:43:26,774
(chuckles softly) Ouch.

921
00:43:26,807 --> 00:43:28,375
Theaters of combat
all over the world,

922
00:43:28,409 --> 00:43:30,344
but I have to stay
in Washington.

923
00:43:30,377 --> 00:43:33,080
-Why?
-I built the Pentagon.

924
00:43:33,114 --> 00:43:35,749
The brass likes it so much
they made me take over

925
00:43:35,783 --> 00:43:37,918
the Manhattan Engineer District.

926
00:43:37,952 --> 00:43:39,086
Which is?

927
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,389
Oh, don't be a smart ass.
You know damn well what it is.

928
00:43:42,423 --> 00:43:44,125
You and half of every
physics department

929
00:43:44,158 --> 00:43:46,994
across the country.
That's problem number one.

930
00:43:47,027 --> 00:43:48,762
I thought problem
number one would be

931
00:43:48,796 --> 00:43:50,064
securing enough uranium ore.

932
00:43:50,097 --> 00:43:53,200
1,200 tons bought
the day I took charge.

933
00:43:53,234 --> 00:43:54,401
Processing?

934
00:43:54,435 --> 00:43:56,637
Just broke ground
at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.

935
00:43:57,438 --> 00:43:59,140
Now I'm looking
for a project director.

936
00:43:59,173 --> 00:44:01,275
And my name came up?

937
00:44:01,308 --> 00:44:02,376
Nope.

938
00:44:03,512 --> 00:44:05,746
Even though you brought
quantum physics to America.

939
00:44:05,779 --> 00:44:07,148
Which made me curious.

940
00:44:07,181 --> 00:44:09,049
What have you found out?

941
00:44:09,950 --> 00:44:12,453
You're a dilettante,
a womanizer,

942
00:44:12,486 --> 00:44:13,821
a suspected Communist...

943
00:44:13,854 --> 00:44:15,256
I'm a New Deal Democrat.

944
00:44:15,289 --> 00:44:16,891
I said "suspected."

945
00:44:16,924 --> 00:44:21,162
Unstable, theatrical,
egotistical, neurotic...

946
00:44:21,195 --> 00:44:22,229
Nothing good, no?

947
00:44:22,263 --> 00:44:23,931
Not even
"he's brilliant, but..."

948
00:44:23,964 --> 00:44:25,766
Well, brilliance is taken
for granted

949
00:44:25,799 --> 00:44:27,301
in your circle, so no.

950
00:44:27,334 --> 00:44:29,303
No, the only person who had
anything good to say

951
00:44:29,336 --> 00:44:31,071
was Richard Tolman.

952
00:44:31,105 --> 00:44:33,207
Tolman thinks
you have integrity,

953
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,376
but he also strikes me as a guy

954
00:44:35,409 --> 00:44:37,778
who knows more about
science than people.

955
00:44:37,811 --> 00:44:41,782
Yet here you are.
You don't take much on trust.

956
00:44:41,815 --> 00:44:43,817
I don't take anything on trust.

957
00:44:47,388 --> 00:44:49,123
Why don't you
have a Nobel Prize?

958
00:44:49,156 --> 00:44:50,224
Why aren't you a general?

959
00:44:50,257 --> 00:44:51,425
They're making me one for this.

960
00:44:51,458 --> 00:44:52,826
Perhaps I'll have the same luck.

961
00:44:52,860 --> 00:44:54,461
A Nobel Prize for making a bomb?

962
00:44:54,495 --> 00:44:56,830
Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.

963
00:44:59,266 --> 00:45:00,901
So how would you proceed?

964
00:45:02,403 --> 00:45:05,105
You're talking
about turning theory

965
00:45:05,139 --> 00:45:07,308
into a practical weapons system

966
00:45:07,341 --> 00:45:08,475
faster than the Nazis.

967
00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:10,244
Who have a 12-month head start.

968
00:45:10,277 --> 00:45:11,412
Eighteen.

969
00:45:11,445 --> 00:45:12,813
How could you possibly
know that?

970
00:45:12,846 --> 00:45:14,882
Our fast neutron research
took six months.

971
00:45:14,915 --> 00:45:16,417
The man they've
undoubtedly put in charge

972
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:17,851
will have made
that leap instantly.

973
00:45:17,885 --> 00:45:19,086
Who do you think
they put in charge?

974
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:20,221
Werner Heisenberg.

975
00:45:20,254 --> 00:45:22,823
He has the most intuitive
understanding

976
00:45:22,856 --> 00:45:24,526
of atomic structure
I have ever seen.

977
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,260
-You know his work?
-I know him.

978
00:45:26,293 --> 00:45:28,128
<i>Just like I know Walther Bothe,</i>
<i>von Weizsäcker, Diebner.</i>

979
00:45:28,162 --> 00:45:30,965
In a straight race,
the Germans win.

980
00:45:30,998 --> 00:45:33,734
-We've got one hope.
-Which is?

981
00:45:34,335 --> 00:45:35,970
Anti-Semitism.

982
00:45:37,104 --> 00:45:38,105
What?

983
00:45:38,138 --> 00:45:40,975
Hitler called quantum physics
"Jewish science."

984
00:45:41,008 --> 00:45:42,843
Said it right
to Einstein's face.

985
00:45:42,876 --> 00:45:46,113
Our one hope is that Hitler
is so... so blinded by hate

986
00:45:46,146 --> 00:45:47,948
that he's denied Heisenberg
proper resources,

987
00:45:47,982 --> 00:45:49,917
because it'll take
vast resources.

988
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:51,485
Our nation's best scientists
working together.

989
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:52,920
Right now, they're scattered.

990
00:45:52,953 --> 00:45:54,556
Which gives us
compartmentalization.

991
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:56,457
All minds have
to see the whole task

992
00:45:56,490 --> 00:45:57,858
to contribute efficiently.

993
00:45:57,891 --> 00:46:00,127
Poor security
may cost us the race.

994
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,996
Inefficiency will.

995
00:46:02,029 --> 00:46:03,864
The Germans know
more than us anyway.

996
00:46:03,897 --> 00:46:06,000
The Russians don't.

997
00:46:06,033 --> 00:46:09,970
Remind me,
who are we at war with?

998
00:46:10,004 --> 00:46:12,439
Somebody with your past
doesn't want to be seen

999
00:46:12,473 --> 00:46:14,074
downplaying the importance

1000
00:46:14,108 --> 00:46:16,844
of security from
our Communist allies.

1001
00:46:16,877 --> 00:46:19,547
Point taken. But, no.

1002
00:46:19,581 --> 00:46:21,882
(scoffs) You don't get
to say "no" to me.

1003
00:46:21,915 --> 00:46:24,184
It's my job to say "no" to you
when you're wrong.

1004
00:46:24,218 --> 00:46:26,220
So you have the job now?

1005
00:46:26,253 --> 00:46:28,322
Uh, I'm considering it.

1006
00:46:31,025 --> 00:46:33,360
I'm starting to see
where you got your reputation.

1007
00:46:34,562 --> 00:46:36,997
My favorite response,

1008
00:46:37,031 --> 00:46:39,366
"Oppenheimer couldn't
run a hamburger stand."

1009
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,302
(chuckles)

1010
00:46:41,335 --> 00:46:42,136
I couldn't.

1011
00:46:44,171 --> 00:46:46,340
But I can run
the Manhattan Project.

1012
00:46:47,207 --> 00:46:49,376
There's a way
to balance these things.

1013
00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:53,615
Keep the Rad Lab here
at Berkeley under Lawrence.

1014
00:46:53,648 --> 00:46:55,916
Met Lab in Chicago,
under Szilard.

1015
00:46:55,949 --> 00:46:58,385
Large-scale refining,
where did you say? Tennessee.

1016
00:46:58,419 --> 00:47:00,087
-And Hanford.
-And Hanford.

1017
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,191
All America's industrial might
and scientific innovation,

1018
00:47:04,224 --> 00:47:05,593
connected by rail.

1019
00:47:05,627 --> 00:47:07,294
Focused on one goal.

1020
00:47:07,328 --> 00:47:10,030
One point in space and time.
And it comes together here.

1021
00:47:10,064 --> 00:47:12,366
<i>A secret laboratory.</i>
<i>In the middle of nowhere,</i>

1022
00:47:12,399 --> 00:47:13,867
<i>secure, self-sufficient,</i>

1023
00:47:13,901 --> 00:47:15,269
equipment, housing, the works.

1024
00:47:15,302 --> 00:47:17,471
Keep everyone there
until it's done.

1025
00:47:17,505 --> 00:47:19,541
It'll need a school,
stores, a church.

1026
00:47:19,574 --> 00:47:21,008
Why?

1027
00:47:21,041 --> 00:47:22,343
ROBERT:
<i>If we don't let scientists</i>

1028
00:47:22,376 --> 00:47:24,078
bring their families,
we'll never get the best.

1029
00:47:24,111 --> 00:47:26,180
You want security,
build a town, build it fast.

1030
00:47:26,213 --> 00:47:27,281
Where?

1031
00:47:31,285 --> 00:47:33,253
Welcome to Los Alamos.

1032
00:47:33,287 --> 00:47:36,090
Now, there's a boys school
we'll have to commandeer,

1033
00:47:36,123 --> 00:47:38,092
and the local Indians come
up here for burial rites.

1034
00:47:38,125 --> 00:47:41,362
But, apart from that, nothing.
Forty miles. Any direction.

1035
00:47:41,395 --> 00:47:43,330
Enough to find the perfect spot.

1036
00:47:43,364 --> 00:47:45,866
-For?
-Success.

1037
00:47:47,334 --> 00:47:49,403
(gripping music playing)

1038
00:47:51,138 --> 00:47:53,140
Build him a town. Fast.

1039
00:47:54,174 --> 00:47:56,678
Let's go recruit
some scientists.

1040
00:47:56,711 --> 00:47:59,046
Why would I leave my family?

1041
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:00,515
I told you,
you can bring your family.

1042
00:48:00,548 --> 00:48:01,982
I'm not a soldier, Oppie.

1043
00:48:02,015 --> 00:48:04,118
A soldier? He's a general.

1044
00:48:04,151 --> 00:48:05,986
I've got all the soldier I need.

1045
00:48:06,019 --> 00:48:07,589
What can I tell them?

1046
00:48:07,622 --> 00:48:09,957
Heisenberg, Diebner,
Bothe and Bohr.

1047
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:11,291
What do these men
have in common?

1048
00:48:11,325 --> 00:48:13,327
The greatest minds
on atomic theory.

1049
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,696
-Yes, and?
-Uh...

1050
00:48:14,729 --> 00:48:17,998
As much as you like,

1051
00:48:18,031 --> 00:48:20,167
until you feel my boot
on your balls.

1052
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,970
You know isotopes
and you know explosives

1053
00:48:23,003 --> 00:48:24,304
better than anyone in the world.

1054
00:48:24,338 --> 00:48:26,940
But you can't tell us
what you're doing?

1055
00:48:26,974 --> 00:48:28,242
(Groves sighs)

1056
00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:32,246
-I don't know.
-The Nazis have them.

1057
00:48:32,279 --> 00:48:34,415
-Niels Bohr's in Copenhagen.
-Under Nazi occupation.

1058
00:48:34,448 --> 00:48:36,316
Did they stop printing
newspapers in Princeton?

1059
00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:38,686
Why would we go
to the middle of nowhere

1060
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:40,187
for who knows how long?
(chuckling)

1061
00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:42,322
For a year or two. Or three.

1062
00:48:43,323 --> 00:48:46,927
Uh, General, could you
give us a moment?

1063
00:48:47,995 --> 00:48:51,064
It's about unleashing
the strong force...

1064
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:53,601
...before the Nazis do.

1065
00:48:53,635 --> 00:48:55,570
Oh, my God.

1066
00:48:55,603 --> 00:48:56,704
Niels won't work for the Nazis.

1067
00:48:56,738 --> 00:48:58,038
No, never.

1068
00:48:58,071 --> 00:49:00,374
But while they have him,
we don't.

1069
00:49:00,407 --> 00:49:01,576
That's why I need you.

1070
00:49:01,609 --> 00:49:03,578
Why would you think I'd do that?

1071
00:49:03,611 --> 00:49:05,446
"Why?" "Why?"

1072
00:49:05,479 --> 00:49:07,682
How about because this is the
most important fucking thing

1073
00:49:07,715 --> 00:49:09,717
to ever happen
in the history of the world.

1074
00:49:09,751 --> 00:49:11,185
How about that?

1075
00:49:11,753 --> 00:49:13,187
Fuck.

1076
00:49:16,624 --> 00:49:18,091
(door shuts)

1077
00:49:18,125 --> 00:49:20,494
They are not gonna
let me onto this project.

1078
00:49:20,528 --> 00:49:22,597
And failing a security check
is not gonna be good

1079
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:24,298
for a career,
even after the war.

1080
00:49:24,331 --> 00:49:27,100
So you're a fellow traveler.
So what?

1081
00:49:27,134 --> 00:49:28,502
This is a national emergency.

1082
00:49:28,536 --> 00:49:31,706
I've got some skeletons,
they put me in charge.

1083
00:49:31,739 --> 00:49:33,040
They need us.

1084
00:49:33,073 --> 00:49:35,242
Until they don't.

1085
00:49:38,312 --> 00:49:40,715
Is there any chance of getting
Bohr out of Denmark?

1086
00:49:40,748 --> 00:49:43,751
Nah, no dice.
I checked with the British.

1087
00:49:43,785 --> 00:49:46,086
Until we get Allied boots
back onto the continent,

1088
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:47,522
there's just no way.

1089
00:49:49,056 --> 00:49:50,491
Is he that important?

1090
00:49:50,525 --> 00:49:53,561
How many people do you know
who proved Einstein wrong?

1091
00:49:54,629 --> 00:49:56,731
You know, it really would
be quicker to take a plane.

1092
00:49:56,764 --> 00:49:58,499
No, plane's too risky.

1093
00:49:58,533 --> 00:50:01,001
Country needs us.

1094
00:50:03,370 --> 00:50:04,471
The Harvard guys,

1095
00:50:04,506 --> 00:50:07,074
they say the building's
too small for the cyclotron.

1096
00:50:09,309 --> 00:50:11,211
ROBERT: Get them together
with the architects.

1097
00:50:14,414 --> 00:50:16,416
When's this place
supposed to open?

1098
00:50:19,521 --> 00:50:20,320
Two months.

1099
00:50:21,455 --> 00:50:23,725
Robert, you're
the great improviser,

1100
00:50:23,758 --> 00:50:25,793
but this... (sighs)

1101
00:50:25,827 --> 00:50:27,427
you can't do in your head.

1102
00:50:28,462 --> 00:50:30,063
Four divisions.

1103
00:50:31,198 --> 00:50:34,802
Experimental, Theoretical,
Metallurgical, Ordnance.

1104
00:50:34,836 --> 00:50:35,803
Who's running Theoretical?

1105
00:50:35,837 --> 00:50:37,237
ROBERT:
I am.

1106
00:50:37,271 --> 00:50:38,472
RABI:
That's what I was afraid of.

1107
00:50:38,506 --> 00:50:40,374
You're spread too thin.

1108
00:50:41,576 --> 00:50:43,277
So you take Theoretical.

1109
00:50:45,847 --> 00:50:49,082
I'm not coming here, Robert.

1110
00:50:54,722 --> 00:50:56,390
Why not?

1111
00:50:59,694 --> 00:51:01,061
(scoffs)

1112
00:51:02,262 --> 00:51:06,333
You drop a bomb and it falls
on the just and the unjust.

1113
00:51:06,366 --> 00:51:07,569
(sighs)

1114
00:51:07,602 --> 00:51:10,237
I don't wish the culmination
of three centuries of physics

1115
00:51:10,270 --> 00:51:12,674
to be a weapon
of mass destruction.

1116
00:51:13,741 --> 00:51:16,076
(pensive music playing)

1117
00:51:21,883 --> 00:51:23,216
ROBERT:
Izzy.

1118
00:51:24,351 --> 00:51:28,488
I don't know if we can
be trusted with such a weapon.

1119
00:51:29,857 --> 00:51:33,160
But I know the Nazis can't.

1120
00:51:36,564 --> 00:51:39,366
We have no choice.

1121
00:51:40,768 --> 00:51:42,202
Then...

1122
00:51:43,538 --> 00:51:45,907
...the second thing
you'll have to do is appoint

1123
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:48,208
Hans Bethe to run
the Theoretical division.

1124
00:51:48,241 --> 00:51:50,545
(rousing music playing)

1125
00:51:50,578 --> 00:51:52,412
Wait, what was the first?

1126
00:51:52,446 --> 00:51:54,916
Take off
that ridiculous uniform.

1127
00:51:54,949 --> 00:51:56,149
You're a scientist.

1128
00:51:56,183 --> 00:51:57,785
Groves is insisting we join.

1129
00:51:57,819 --> 00:52:00,253
Tell Groves to go
shit in his hat.

1130
00:52:00,287 --> 00:52:03,758
They need us for who we are.
So be yourself.

1131
00:52:03,791 --> 00:52:05,760
Only better.

1132
00:52:05,793 --> 00:52:08,395
(rousing music continues)

1133
00:52:44,799 --> 00:52:46,834
This is the only key.

1134
00:52:46,868 --> 00:52:48,301
And Teller's already here.

1135
00:52:48,335 --> 00:52:50,203
-(sighs)
-Shall I just show him in?

1136
00:52:50,237 --> 00:52:51,906
No, let's wait for the others.

1137
00:52:51,939 --> 00:52:53,473
(door opens)

1138
00:52:59,847 --> 00:53:00,848
Let's get started.

1139
00:53:00,882 --> 00:53:02,950
Hello, Edward.

1140
00:53:02,984 --> 00:53:04,686
Yes.

1141
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,420
Gentlemen, so, we will work here

1142
00:53:06,453 --> 00:53:09,456
until the T-section
at Los Alamos is finished.

1143
00:53:09,489 --> 00:53:11,793
-Edward, can I please...
-It is more important.

1144
00:53:13,861 --> 00:53:15,830
When I calculated
the chain reaction,

1145
00:53:15,863 --> 00:53:18,566
I found a rather
troubling possibility.

1146
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:20,702
BETHE:
No.

1147
00:53:20,735 --> 00:53:21,969
But this can't be right.

1148
00:53:22,003 --> 00:53:23,938
Show me how
you did your calculations.

1149
00:53:23,971 --> 00:53:25,372
TELLER:
Yes.

1150
00:53:28,876 --> 00:53:29,944
LAWRENCE:
It's exponential.

1151
00:53:29,977 --> 00:53:32,446
BETHE:
No. No, no, no. No.

1152
00:53:34,982 --> 00:53:36,984
This is fantasy.

1153
00:53:37,018 --> 00:53:39,286
Teller's calculations
can't be right.

1154
00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,989
Do them yourself
while I go to Princeton.

1155
00:53:42,023 --> 00:53:43,858
-What for?
-To talk to Einstein.

1156
00:53:43,891 --> 00:53:46,460
Well, there's not much
common ground between you two.

1157
00:53:46,493 --> 00:53:49,530
That's why
I should get his view.

1158
00:53:49,564 --> 00:53:51,264
(birds chirping)

1159
00:53:52,967 --> 00:53:54,969
-Albert.
-Hmm?

1160
00:53:55,002 --> 00:53:57,905
Ah. Dr. Oppenheimer. (chuckles)

1161
00:53:57,939 --> 00:53:59,406
Well, have you met Dr. Gödel?

1162
00:53:59,439 --> 00:54:01,008
We walk here most days.

1163
00:54:01,042 --> 00:54:05,847
Trees are the most
inspiring structures.

1164
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,347
Albert, might I have a word?

1165
00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:10,785
Of course. 'Scuse me, Kurt.

1166
00:54:11,786 --> 00:54:14,722
You know, some days,
Kurt refuses to eat.

1167
00:54:14,756 --> 00:54:16,356
Even in Princeton.

1168
00:54:16,389 --> 00:54:19,493
He's convinced that the Nazis
can poison his food.

1169
00:54:19,527 --> 00:54:20,795
Mm.

1170
00:54:20,828 --> 00:54:22,663
Hmm? Huh.

1171
00:54:24,532 --> 00:54:26,366
Wha...

1172
00:54:26,399 --> 00:54:28,603
(suspenseful music playing)

1173
00:54:30,905 --> 00:54:33,741
Whose... Whose work is this?

1174
00:54:33,775 --> 00:54:34,809
Teller's.

1175
00:54:35,943 --> 00:54:38,411
What do you take it to mean?

1176
00:54:38,445 --> 00:54:40,380
Neutrons smash into nucleus,

1177
00:54:40,413 --> 00:54:44,451
releasing neutrons
to smash into other nuclei.

1178
00:54:44,484 --> 00:54:46,687
Criticality,
a point of no return,

1179
00:54:46,721 --> 00:54:48,321
massive explosive force.

1180
00:54:48,355 --> 00:54:50,691
But this time,
the chain reaction doesn't stop.

1181
00:54:51,592 --> 00:54:54,562
It would ignite the atmosphere.

1182
00:54:54,595 --> 00:54:55,596
(whooshing)

1183
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:57,598
When we detonate
an atomic device,

1184
00:54:57,632 --> 00:54:59,801
we might start
a chain reaction that...

1185
00:55:00,768 --> 00:55:02,302
...destroys the world.

1186
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:05,372
So here we are, hmm?

1187
00:55:05,405 --> 00:55:09,710
Lost in your quantum world
of probabilities

1188
00:55:09,744 --> 00:55:11,478
and needing certainty.

1189
00:55:11,512 --> 00:55:14,381
Can you run
the calculations yourself?

1190
00:55:14,414 --> 00:55:15,817
(chuckles) About the only thing

1191
00:55:15,850 --> 00:55:19,120
you and I have in common
is a disdain for mathematics.

1192
00:55:19,153 --> 00:55:21,722
Who's working on this
in-in Berkeley?

1193
00:55:21,756 --> 00:55:23,057
Hans Bethe.

1194
00:55:23,090 --> 00:55:24,926
Well, he'll get to the truth.

1195
00:55:26,561 --> 00:55:29,429
And if the truth
is catastrophic?

1196
00:55:29,462 --> 00:55:30,765
Then you stop.

1197
00:55:30,798 --> 00:55:34,535
And you share your findings
with the Nazis.

1198
00:55:34,569 --> 00:55:37,705
So neither side
destroys the world.

1199
00:55:40,908 --> 00:55:41,943
Robert.

1200
00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:46,614
This is yours, not mine.

1201
00:55:59,492 --> 00:56:00,895
BETHE:
Teller's wrong.

1202
00:56:00,928 --> 00:56:02,129
-He's wrong.
-(shushing)

1203
00:56:02,163 --> 00:56:04,397
(keys jingling)

1204
00:56:11,806 --> 00:56:14,508
BETHE: When you know
Teller's critical assumptions,

1205
00:56:14,542 --> 00:56:15,877
the real picture emerges.

1206
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:17,712
Bottom line?

1207
00:56:17,745 --> 00:56:19,847
The chances of an uncontrolled
nuclear reaction

1208
00:56:19,881 --> 00:56:20,882
are near zero.

1209
00:56:20,915 --> 00:56:23,551
Near zero. (breathes heavily)

1210
00:56:23,584 --> 00:56:25,853
-Oppie, this is good news.
-Mm.

1211
00:56:27,188 --> 00:56:28,421
Can you run them again?

1212
00:56:28,455 --> 00:56:30,191
No, you'll get the same answer.

1213
00:56:30,224 --> 00:56:31,792
Till they actually detonate
one of these things,

1214
00:56:31,826 --> 00:56:34,662
the best assurance
you're going to get is this.

1215
00:56:34,695 --> 00:56:35,763
Near zero.

1216
00:56:37,965 --> 00:56:40,635
(exhales sharply) Theory
will take you only so far.

1217
00:56:40,668 --> 00:56:42,169
-BETHE: Mm.
-CHEVALIER: <i>Hello!</i>

1218
00:56:42,203 --> 00:56:43,504
-BARBARA: Hello, you.
-KITTY: Hi.

1219
00:56:43,537 --> 00:56:44,872
BARBARA:
We missed him.

1220
00:56:44,906 --> 00:56:46,040
You want to adopt?

1221
00:56:46,073 --> 00:56:47,474
-She's kidding.
-(Kitty chuckles)

1222
00:56:47,508 --> 00:56:49,442
We wanted to see you
before we left.

1223
00:56:49,476 --> 00:56:52,647
-For parts unknown.
-(chuckles)

1224
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,216
CHEVALIER: You know who
I ran into the other day?

1225
00:56:55,249 --> 00:56:56,884
Eltenton.

1226
00:56:56,918 --> 00:56:58,185
ROBERT:
Oh.

1227
00:56:58,219 --> 00:56:59,921
The chemist from Shell?
The union guy?

1228
00:56:59,954 --> 00:57:03,824
CHEVALIER: Yeah. He...
The, uh, F.A.E.C.T. guy.

1229
00:57:03,858 --> 00:57:07,228
He was moaning about
how we're handling the war.

1230
00:57:07,261 --> 00:57:09,462
ROBERT:
How so?

1231
00:57:09,496 --> 00:57:12,233
Lack of cooperation
with our allies.

1232
00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:14,602
Apparently
our government's not sharing

1233
00:57:14,635 --> 00:57:16,737
any research with the Russians.

1234
00:57:16,771 --> 00:57:17,738
Well, he said,

1235
00:57:17,772 --> 00:57:20,508
"Most scientists think
the policy is stupid."

1236
00:57:20,541 --> 00:57:23,811
(suspenseful music playing)

1237
00:57:23,844 --> 00:57:25,680
-ROBERT: Oh, yeah?
-CHEVALIER: Yeah.

1238
00:57:25,713 --> 00:57:28,082
He mentioned that if anyone

1239
00:57:28,115 --> 00:57:31,085
had anything
they wanted to pass on,

1240
00:57:31,118 --> 00:57:32,954
uh, going around
official channels,

1241
00:57:32,987 --> 00:57:34,922
that he could help.

1242
00:57:43,564 --> 00:57:45,232
That would be treason.

1243
00:57:45,266 --> 00:57:48,102
Yes, of course.

1244
00:57:48,135 --> 00:57:49,937
I just thought you should know.

1245
00:57:53,074 --> 00:57:54,542
The brat is down.

1246
00:57:54,575 --> 00:57:55,943
Where are the martinis?

1247
00:58:01,148 --> 00:58:02,650
Coming right up.

1248
00:58:02,683 --> 00:58:04,151
<i>Conversation ended there.</i>

1249
00:58:04,185 --> 00:58:06,287
Nothing in our
long-standing friendship

1250
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,888
would have led me to believe

1251
00:58:07,922 --> 00:58:10,658
that Chevalier was actually
seeking information,

1252
00:58:10,691 --> 00:58:13,160
and I am certain
that he had no idea

1253
00:58:13,194 --> 00:58:15,495
of the work in which
I was engaged.

1254
00:58:20,034 --> 00:58:22,003
It has long been clear to me

1255
00:58:22,036 --> 00:58:24,739
that I should have reported
this incident at once.

1256
00:58:24,772 --> 00:58:26,273
SENATOR McGEE:
<i>The Oppenheimer situation</i>

1257
00:58:26,307 --> 00:58:29,210
<i>highlights the tension</i>
<i>between scientists</i>

1258
00:58:29,243 --> 00:58:30,845
and the security apparatus.

1259
00:58:30,878 --> 00:58:32,747
In hopes of learning
how the nominee handled

1260
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:35,116
such issues during
his time at the AEC,

1261
00:58:35,149 --> 00:58:38,652
we'll have a scientist
appearing before the committee.

1262
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,888
Who are they bringing in?

1263
00:58:40,921 --> 00:58:41,889
They hadn't said.

1264
00:58:41,922 --> 00:58:43,290
STRAUSS:
Mr. Chairman, if I may,

1265
00:58:43,324 --> 00:58:45,860
I'm nominated
for Commerce Secretary.

1266
00:58:45,893 --> 00:58:48,195
Why seek the opinion
of scientists?

1267
00:58:48,229 --> 00:58:50,564
This is a Cabinet post, Admiral.

1268
00:58:50,598 --> 00:58:52,767
We seek a wide range of opinion.

1269
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,603
Well, I'd like to know the name
of the scientist testifying.

1270
00:58:55,636 --> 00:58:57,138
I'd like the chance
to cross-examine.

1271
00:58:57,171 --> 00:58:59,306
This is not a court.

1272
00:58:59,340 --> 00:59:01,742
STRAUSS:
(grunts) Formality, huh?

1273
00:59:01,776 --> 00:59:03,044
SENATE AIDE:
No presidential Cabinet nominee

1274
00:59:03,077 --> 00:59:05,646
has failed to be confirmed
since 1925.

1275
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:07,782
This is just how
the game is played.

1276
00:59:07,815 --> 00:59:09,116
It's in the bag, Lewis.

1277
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:10,351
So play nice.

1278
00:59:10,384 --> 00:59:12,653
<i>They bring in a scientist,</i>
<i>so what?</i>

1279
00:59:12,686 --> 00:59:14,688
You don't know scientists
like I do, Counselor.

1280
00:59:14,722 --> 00:59:16,757
They resent anyone
who questions their judgment,

1281
00:59:16,791 --> 00:59:18,793
<i>especially if you're</i>
<i>not one of them.</i>

1282
00:59:18,826 --> 00:59:20,127
I was chair of the AEC.

1283
00:59:20,161 --> 00:59:22,596
I'm easy to blame
for what happened to Robert.

1284
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:23,931
We can't have
the Senate thinking

1285
00:59:23,964 --> 00:59:27,068
the scientific community
doesn't support you, sir.

1286
00:59:27,101 --> 00:59:28,936
Or should we pivot?

1287
00:59:28,969 --> 00:59:30,938
-SENATE AIDE: To what?
-And embrace it.

1288
00:59:30,971 --> 00:59:33,741
"I fought Oppenheimer,
and the US won."

1289
00:59:33,774 --> 00:59:35,342
I-I don't think
we need to go there.

1290
00:59:35,376 --> 00:59:37,645
Isn't there someone we can call
who knows what really happened?

1291
00:59:37,678 --> 00:59:39,113
-Teller.
-He'll make an impression.

1292
00:59:39,146 --> 00:59:41,215
Can you get the name of
the scientist they've called?

1293
00:59:41,248 --> 00:59:42,817
-Probably.
-Find out if he was

1294
00:59:42,850 --> 00:59:45,219
based in Chicago
or Los Alamos during the war.

1295
00:59:45,252 --> 00:59:46,620
Why does that matter?

1296
00:59:46,654 --> 00:59:47,855
Well, if he was
based in Chicago,

1297
00:59:47,888 --> 00:59:49,290
then he worked
under Szilard and Fermi,

1298
00:59:49,323 --> 00:59:51,625
not the cult of Oppie
at Los Alamos.

1299
00:59:51,659 --> 00:59:52,893
Robert built that damn place.

1300
00:59:52,927 --> 00:59:55,696
He was founder, mayor, sheriff,

1301
00:59:55,729 --> 00:59:57,131
all rolled into one.

1302
00:59:57,164 --> 00:59:59,600
(gripping music playing)

1303
01:00:05,406 --> 01:00:08,142
(baby crying)

1304
01:00:10,077 --> 01:00:11,879
All it needs is a saloon.

1305
01:00:36,837 --> 01:00:39,240
(mutters indistinctly)

1306
01:00:40,307 --> 01:00:42,877
There's no kitchen.

1307
01:00:42,910 --> 01:00:46,847
Really? We'll fix that.

1308
01:00:46,881 --> 01:00:49,116
(gripping music continues)

1309
01:00:52,753 --> 01:00:56,157
BETHE:
Barbed wire, guns.

1310
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:57,291
Oppie.

1311
01:00:57,324 --> 01:00:58,959
ROBERT:
We're at war, Hans.

1312
01:01:01,362 --> 01:01:03,931
Halifax. 1917.

1313
01:01:03,964 --> 01:01:06,934
A cargo ship carrying munitions
explodes in the harbor.

1314
01:01:06,967 --> 01:01:09,303
(explosions)

1315
01:01:09,336 --> 01:01:12,273
A vast and sudden
chemical reaction.

1316
01:01:12,306 --> 01:01:14,175
(violent whooshing)

1317
01:01:15,943 --> 01:01:18,779
The biggest man-made
explosion in history.

1318
01:01:18,812 --> 01:01:20,781
Now let's calculate
how much more destructive

1319
01:01:20,814 --> 01:01:23,484
it would have been
if it were a nuclear

1320
01:01:23,518 --> 01:01:25,186
and not a chemical reaction.

1321
01:01:25,219 --> 01:01:28,856
Expressing power in terms
of tons of TNT.

1322
01:01:28,889 --> 01:01:30,391
But it will be thousands.

1323
01:01:30,424 --> 01:01:33,861
Well, then kilotons.

1324
01:01:37,431 --> 01:01:40,801
Using U-235,

1325
01:01:40,834 --> 01:01:43,404
-the bomb will need a...
-Uh-uh.

1326
01:01:43,437 --> 01:01:46,508
Sorry. Gadget will need
a 33-pound sphere

1327
01:01:46,541 --> 01:01:48,008
about this size.

1328
01:01:48,042 --> 01:01:51,845
Or using plutonium,
the ten-pound sphere.

1329
01:01:53,247 --> 01:01:54,481
Here's the amount of uranium

1330
01:01:54,516 --> 01:01:57,851
Oak Ridge refined
all of last month.

1331
01:02:00,254 --> 01:02:04,258
And the Hanford plant
made this much plutonium.

1332
01:02:05,392 --> 01:02:08,495
Now, if we can enrich
these amounts,

1333
01:02:08,530 --> 01:02:11,332
-we need a way to detonate them.
-(paper tearing)

1334
01:02:11,365 --> 01:02:13,467
Are we boring you, Edward?

1335
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:15,102
TELLER:
A little bit, yes.

1336
01:02:15,135 --> 01:02:16,370
May I ask why?

1337
01:02:16,403 --> 01:02:17,838
TELLER:
We all entered this room

1338
01:02:17,871 --> 01:02:19,807
knowing a fission bomb
was possible.

1339
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,443
How 'bout we leave it
with something new?

1340
01:02:22,476 --> 01:02:23,477
Such as?

1341
01:02:23,511 --> 01:02:26,247
Instead of uranium or plutonium,

1342
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,281
we use hydrogen.

1343
01:02:27,314 --> 01:02:28,816
(others murmur and laugh)

1344
01:02:28,849 --> 01:02:30,451
-TELLER: Heavy hydrogen.
-FEYNMAN: Hydrogen.

1345
01:02:30,484 --> 01:02:33,254
Deuterium. You see?

1346
01:02:33,287 --> 01:02:34,989
We compact the atoms together

1347
01:02:35,022 --> 01:02:38,092
under great pressure
to induce a fusion reaction.

1348
01:02:39,026 --> 01:02:41,862
Then we'll get not kilotons,

1349
01:02:41,895 --> 01:02:42,963
but megatons.

1350
01:02:42,997 --> 01:02:43,931
FEYNMAN:
A big fission reaction...

1351
01:02:43,964 --> 01:02:45,533
Okay, hang on, hang on.

1352
01:02:45,567 --> 01:02:50,271
So how do you generate enough
force to fuse hydrogen atoms?

1353
01:02:50,304 --> 01:02:52,373
A small fission bomb.

1354
01:02:52,406 --> 01:02:54,108
FEYNMAN:
There we are.

1355
01:02:54,141 --> 01:02:56,010
-(laughter)
-(scattered applause)

1356
01:02:56,043 --> 01:02:57,845
Well, since we're going
to need one anyway,

1357
01:02:57,878 --> 01:02:59,847
can we get back
to the business at hand?

1358
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,215
SENATOR BARTLETT:
The isotopes issue

1359
01:03:01,248 --> 01:03:04,885
wasn't your most important
policy disagreement

1360
01:03:04,918 --> 01:03:06,554
with Dr. Oppenheimer.

1361
01:03:06,588 --> 01:03:08,989
It was the hydrogen bomb,
wasn't it?

1362
01:03:09,023 --> 01:03:11,892
Uh, as colleagues,
we agreed to disagree

1363
01:03:11,925 --> 01:03:13,927
on a great many things, uh,

1364
01:03:13,961 --> 01:03:15,195
and, well, one of them

1365
01:03:15,229 --> 01:03:18,299
was the need
for an H-bomb program, yes.

1366
01:03:18,332 --> 01:03:21,302
-(siren wailing)
-(uneasy music playing)

1367
01:03:31,145 --> 01:03:33,914
Thanks for convening
on short notice.

1368
01:03:33,947 --> 01:03:35,416
I can't believe it.

1369
01:03:36,417 --> 01:03:37,951
Well, here we are.

1370
01:03:37,985 --> 01:03:39,987
Catch me up. What do we know?

1371
01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:42,524
One of our B-29s
over the North Pacific

1372
01:03:42,557 --> 01:03:44,058
has detected radiation.

1373
01:03:44,091 --> 01:03:45,859
Do we have the filter papers?

1374
01:03:45,893 --> 01:03:47,895
There's no doubt what this is.

1375
01:03:47,928 --> 01:03:49,129
White House says
there's a doubt.

1376
01:03:49,163 --> 01:03:50,598
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

1377
01:03:50,632 --> 01:03:53,334
Are those the long-range
detection filter papers?

1378
01:03:54,268 --> 01:03:56,337
It's an atomic test.

1379
01:03:58,972 --> 01:04:00,374
The Russians have a bomb.

1380
01:04:00,407 --> 01:04:04,144
We're supposed to be years
ahead of them, but some...

1381
01:04:04,178 --> 01:04:06,480
What were you guys
doing at Los Alamos?

1382
01:04:06,514 --> 01:04:07,649
Wasn't security tight?

1383
01:04:07,682 --> 01:04:09,183
Of course it was.
You weren't there.

1384
01:04:09,216 --> 01:04:11,619
-It was...
-NICHOLS: Forgive me, Doctor...

1385
01:04:11,653 --> 01:04:14,088
but I was there.

1386
01:04:15,155 --> 01:04:16,490
SERBER:
We can now consider

1387
01:04:16,524 --> 01:04:18,459
the actual mechanics
of detonation.

1388
01:04:18,492 --> 01:04:19,627
ROBERT:
Any ideas?

1389
01:04:19,661 --> 01:04:21,395
SERBER:
I call this "shooting."

1390
01:04:21,428 --> 01:04:24,965
We fire a chunk of fissionable
material into a larger sphere

1391
01:04:24,998 --> 01:04:27,501
with enough force
to achieve criticality.

1392
01:04:27,535 --> 01:04:29,203
What do we think? Anyone?

1393
01:04:29,236 --> 01:04:31,038
TOLMAN: I've been
thinking about implosion.

1394
01:04:31,071 --> 01:04:33,040
Explosives around the sphere
blast inwards,

1395
01:04:33,073 --> 01:04:35,109
-crushing the material.
-(blasting)

1396
01:04:35,142 --> 01:04:37,077
I'd like to investigate
that idea.

1397
01:04:37,111 --> 01:04:39,413
I'll talk to Ordnance,
get you blowing things up.

1398
01:04:40,414 --> 01:04:41,516
GROVES:
Progress?

1399
01:04:41,549 --> 01:04:43,384
Nice to see you too.

1400
01:04:43,417 --> 01:04:45,185
Meet the British contingent.

1401
01:04:45,219 --> 01:04:47,054
Dr. Oppenheimer, Klaus Fuchs.

1402
01:04:47,087 --> 01:04:48,956
How long have you been British?

1403
01:04:48,989 --> 01:04:50,190
Since Hitler told me
I wasn't German.

1404
01:04:50,224 --> 01:04:54,027
Uh-huh.
Come, welcome to Los Alamos.

1405
01:04:54,061 --> 01:04:55,929
School's up and running.

1406
01:04:55,963 --> 01:04:58,265
Bar. Always running.

1407
01:04:58,298 --> 01:05:01,301
And I thought of a way
to reduce support staff.

1408
01:05:02,269 --> 01:05:04,271
-Is that...
-ROBERT: Mrs. Serber, yes.

1409
01:05:04,304 --> 01:05:05,707
I've offered jobs
to all the wives.

1410
01:05:05,740 --> 01:05:07,207
Admin, librarians, computation.

1411
01:05:07,241 --> 01:05:09,544
We cut down on staff,
keep families together.

1412
01:05:09,577 --> 01:05:12,146
-Are these women qualified?
-ROBERT: Don't be absurd.

1413
01:05:12,179 --> 01:05:14,549
These are some of the brightest
minds in our community.

1414
01:05:14,582 --> 01:05:16,150
And they're already
security cleared.

1415
01:05:16,183 --> 01:05:18,051
I've informed General Groves
you've been holding

1416
01:05:18,085 --> 01:05:19,554
cross-divisional
open discussions

1417
01:05:19,587 --> 01:05:21,288
-on a nightly basis.
-Shut them down.

1418
01:05:21,321 --> 01:05:23,658
Compartmentalization is the
key to maintaining security...

1419
01:05:23,691 --> 01:05:25,192
CONDON:
It's only the top men.

1420
01:05:25,225 --> 01:05:27,060
Who presumably communicate
with subordinates.

1421
01:05:27,094 --> 01:05:28,295
These men aren't stupid.

1422
01:05:28,328 --> 01:05:30,164
-They can be discreet.
-I don't like it.

1423
01:05:30,197 --> 01:05:33,100
You don't like anything enough
for that to be a fair test.

1424
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,175
Once a week. Top men only.

1425
01:05:41,208 --> 01:05:42,577
I'd like to bring
my brother here.

1426
01:05:42,610 --> 01:05:44,077
No.

1427
01:05:44,712 --> 01:05:46,480
Uh, Nichols...

1428
01:05:47,615 --> 01:05:49,551
I still haven't heard
that my security clearance

1429
01:05:49,584 --> 01:05:51,151
-has been approved.
-It hasn't.

1430
01:05:51,185 --> 01:05:52,554
We're going to Chicago tomorrow.

1431
01:05:52,587 --> 01:05:53,621
No, you should wait.

1432
01:05:54,823 --> 01:05:55,924
You are aware that the Nazis
have a two-year head start.

1433
01:05:55,956 --> 01:05:59,026
Dr. Oppenheimer, the fact
that your security clearance

1434
01:05:59,059 --> 01:06:01,061
is proving difficult to obtain
is not my fault.

1435
01:06:01,094 --> 01:06:02,362
It's yours.

1436
01:06:02,396 --> 01:06:04,331
May not be your fault,
but it's your problem.

1437
01:06:04,364 --> 01:06:05,365
Because I'm going.

1438
01:06:05,399 --> 01:06:09,169
STRAUSS: And how many people
were in these, uh,

1439
01:06:09,203 --> 01:06:11,405
-open discussions?
-NICHOLS: Too many.

1440
01:06:11,438 --> 01:06:12,774
Compartmentalization was
supposed to be the protocol.

1441
01:06:12,807 --> 01:06:14,742
We were in a race
against the Nazis.

1442
01:06:14,776 --> 01:06:17,211
And now the race
is against the Soviets.

1443
01:06:17,244 --> 01:06:18,746
-Not unless we start it.
-STRAUSS: Robert.

1444
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:22,182
They just fired a starting gun.

1445
01:06:22,216 --> 01:06:24,184
What's the nature
of the device they detonated?

1446
01:06:24,218 --> 01:06:25,753
ROBERT: The data indicates
it may have been

1447
01:06:25,787 --> 01:06:28,088
a plutonium implosion device.

1448
01:06:28,121 --> 01:06:31,225
Like the one you built
at Los Alamos.

1449
01:06:31,258 --> 01:06:33,093
The Russians have a bomb,

1450
01:06:33,126 --> 01:06:34,394
Truman needs to know
what's next.

1451
01:06:34,428 --> 01:06:36,230
What's next? Arms talks.

1452
01:06:36,263 --> 01:06:38,131
-Arms talks.
-Obviously.

1453
01:06:39,066 --> 01:06:40,267
What about the Super?

1454
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:42,035
Does Truman even know about it?

1455
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:44,071
Did we brief him on that?

1456
01:06:44,104 --> 01:06:45,172
Not specifically.

1457
01:06:45,205 --> 01:06:46,508
ROBERT:
We still don't know

1458
01:06:46,541 --> 01:06:48,308
if a hydrogen bomb's
technically feasible.

1459
01:06:48,342 --> 01:06:50,244
Right, my understanding
is that Teller proposed it?

1460
01:06:50,277 --> 01:06:52,112
-ROBERT: Yes.
-At Los Alamos?

1461
01:06:52,145 --> 01:06:53,781
Teller's designs have always
been wildly impractical.

1462
01:06:53,815 --> 01:06:56,149
You'd have to deliver
by ox cart.

1463
01:06:56,183 --> 01:06:57,451
-Not airplane.
-LAWRENCE: Oppie.

1464
01:06:57,484 --> 01:07:01,188
I'm sorry, Dr. Lawrence,
you want to comment?

1465
01:07:02,422 --> 01:07:03,525
No.

1466
01:07:05,392 --> 01:07:07,662
Because if it can
put us ahead again,

1467
01:07:07,695 --> 01:07:10,732
the President
of the United States

1468
01:07:10,765 --> 01:07:12,767
needs to know about it.

1469
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,268
(scoffs)

1470
01:07:14,301 --> 01:07:16,103
And if the Russians
know about it already,

1471
01:07:16,136 --> 01:07:19,139
from a spy at Los Alamos,

1472
01:07:19,172 --> 01:07:20,474
then we've gotta get going.

1473
01:07:20,508 --> 01:07:23,477
There's no proof there was
a spy at Los Alamos.

1474
01:07:23,511 --> 01:07:24,579
Robert.

1475
01:07:25,580 --> 01:07:27,582
(dramatic music playing)

1476
01:07:29,416 --> 01:07:31,184
They put it under
the football stadium?

1477
01:07:31,218 --> 01:07:33,153
The field's not in use anymore.

1478
01:07:33,186 --> 01:07:35,422
Just as well.

1479
01:07:36,724 --> 01:07:39,159
-FERMI: Oppie.
-Dr. Fermi.

1480
01:07:39,192 --> 01:07:41,829
(greets in Italian)

1481
01:07:41,863 --> 01:07:43,196
I hear you got a little town.

1482
01:07:43,230 --> 01:07:44,464
Yes. Come and see.

1483
01:07:44,498 --> 01:07:46,166
(Szilard scoffs)

1484
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:50,304
Who could think straight
in a place like that? Huh?

1485
01:07:50,337 --> 01:07:52,272
Everybody will go crazy.

1486
01:07:52,306 --> 01:07:56,176
Thank you for the vote
of confidence, Szilard.

1487
01:07:56,209 --> 01:07:59,847
Do we really... do we really
need that in the notes?

1488
01:07:59,881 --> 01:08:02,316
When are you going
to try it out?

1489
01:08:02,349 --> 01:08:03,383
We did.

1490
01:08:03,417 --> 01:08:07,789
The first self-sustaining
nuclear chain reaction.

1491
01:08:07,822 --> 01:08:09,456
Didn't Groves tell you?

1492
01:08:09,489 --> 01:08:11,124
No.

1493
01:08:11,158 --> 01:08:13,126
(crackling)

1494
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,597
(Robert exhales)

1495
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:18,733
GUARD: One at a time, please,
one at a time.

1496
01:08:18,766 --> 01:08:20,233
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1497
01:08:21,335 --> 01:08:23,805
I tried Personnel.
They asked if I could type.

1498
01:08:23,838 --> 01:08:25,138
Can you?

1499
01:08:25,172 --> 01:08:26,306
Harvard forgot to teach that

1500
01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:28,175
on the graduate
chemistry course.

1501
01:08:29,544 --> 01:08:32,446
Condon, put Mrs. Hornig here
on the plutonium team.

1502
01:08:33,815 --> 01:08:36,183
(door slams)

1503
01:08:38,218 --> 01:08:39,887
What the hell
were you doing in Chicago?

1504
01:08:39,921 --> 01:08:41,388
Visiting the Met?

1505
01:08:41,421 --> 01:08:42,422
-Why? Why?
-Well, you can't talk to...

1506
01:08:42,456 --> 01:08:44,491
Because we have every right...

1507
01:08:44,525 --> 01:08:46,861
You have just the rights
that I give you.

1508
01:08:46,894 --> 01:08:48,362
No more, no less.

1509
01:08:48,395 --> 01:08:50,832
We are adults
trying to run a project here.

1510
01:08:50,865 --> 01:08:52,567
This is ridiculous.

1511
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,368
Tell him.

1512
01:08:54,401 --> 01:08:57,538
Compartmentalization
is the protocol we agreed to.

1513
01:08:58,673 --> 01:08:59,907
Enough of this madhouse.

1514
01:08:59,941 --> 01:09:02,309
Nobody can work
under these conditions.

1515
01:09:02,342 --> 01:09:06,781
You know what, Generalissimo?
I quit.

1516
01:09:06,814 --> 01:09:08,215
Thanks for nothing.

1517
01:09:10,317 --> 01:09:11,819
GROVES:
Better off without him.

1518
01:09:11,853 --> 01:09:13,220
(door slams shut)

1519
01:09:13,253 --> 01:09:14,287
Aren't you more concerned

1520
01:09:14,321 --> 01:09:16,691
about his discretion out there?

1521
01:09:16,724 --> 01:09:19,127
We'll have him killed.

1522
01:09:19,961 --> 01:09:22,530
I was just kidding. (chuckles)

1523
01:09:22,563 --> 01:09:25,499
-No, he hates me, not America.
-You know, General,

1524
01:09:25,533 --> 01:09:27,869
not everyone has levers
to pull like mine.

1525
01:09:27,902 --> 01:09:29,737
I don't think I understand.

1526
01:09:29,771 --> 01:09:31,939
You didn't hire me
despite my left-wing past.

1527
01:09:31,973 --> 01:09:33,708
You hired me because of it.

1528
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:36,678
So you could control me.

1529
01:09:36,711 --> 01:09:39,312
Well, I'm not that subtle.

1530
01:09:39,346 --> 01:09:41,381
I'm just a humble soldier.

1531
01:09:41,415 --> 01:09:42,917
You're neither humble
nor just a soldier.

1532
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:43,951
You studied engineering at MIT.

1533
01:09:43,985 --> 01:09:45,820
Guilty as charged.

1534
01:09:45,853 --> 01:09:47,354
Well, now we understand
each other,

1535
01:09:47,387 --> 01:09:48,823
perhaps you can get me
my security clearance

1536
01:09:48,856 --> 01:09:51,659
so I can perform
this miracle for you.

1537
01:09:56,564 --> 01:09:58,298
LLOYD GARRISON:
<i>General Groves, were you aware</i>

1538
01:09:58,331 --> 01:10:00,635
<i>of Dr. Oppenheimer's</i>
<i>left-wing associations</i>

1539
01:10:00,668 --> 01:10:02,335
<i>when you appointed him?</i>

1540
01:10:02,369 --> 01:10:04,005
GROVES: I was aware that there
were suspicions about him.

1541
01:10:04,038 --> 01:10:05,907
I was aware he had
a very extreme

1542
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:07,307
liberal background.

1543
01:10:07,340 --> 01:10:08,943
In your opinion,
would he ever consciously

1544
01:10:08,976 --> 01:10:10,277
commit a disloyal act?

1545
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:11,913
I would be amazed if he did.

1546
01:10:11,946 --> 01:10:15,016
GARRISON: So you had complete
confidence in his integrity.

1547
01:10:15,049 --> 01:10:16,450
At Los Alamos, yes,

1548
01:10:16,483 --> 01:10:17,819
which is where
I really knew him.

1549
01:10:17,852 --> 01:10:19,821
General,
did your security officers

1550
01:10:19,854 --> 01:10:21,321
on the project advise you

1551
01:10:21,354 --> 01:10:22,824
against the clearance
of Dr. Oppenheimer?

1552
01:10:22,857 --> 01:10:26,661
They could not and would not
clear him until I insisted.

1553
01:10:26,694 --> 01:10:29,329
And it's safe to say that you
had a pretty good knowledge

1554
01:10:29,362 --> 01:10:30,598
of Dr. Oppenheimer's
security file.

1555
01:10:30,631 --> 01:10:32,299
GROVES:
I did.

1556
01:10:32,332 --> 01:10:33,500
Well, then there's only
really one question

1557
01:10:33,534 --> 01:10:35,002
I need answered here today.

1558
01:10:35,036 --> 01:10:36,738
In light of
the current AEC guidelines,

1559
01:10:36,771 --> 01:10:39,473
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1560
01:10:39,507 --> 01:10:41,576
Do you have the guidelines?

1561
01:10:48,649 --> 01:10:51,318
ROBB:
Under current AEC guidelines,

1562
01:10:51,351 --> 01:10:53,386
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1563
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:56,657
-(birds chirping)
-(rooster crowing)

1564
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,402
Physics and New Mexico, huh?
(chuckles)

1565
01:11:09,436 --> 01:11:12,472
My God. What a trek.

1566
01:11:12,507 --> 01:11:13,975
That's why you need a liaison.

1567
01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:15,543
I'm appointing Lomanitz.

1568
01:11:16,711 --> 01:11:17,779
You're gonna be okay.

1569
01:11:17,812 --> 01:11:18,980
This way, gentlemen.

1570
01:11:19,013 --> 01:11:20,815
(stirring music playing)

1571
01:11:20,848 --> 01:11:23,350
(speaking indistinctly)

1572
01:11:28,956 --> 01:11:30,792
-Dr. Lawrence.
-Leslie.

1573
01:11:30,825 --> 01:11:33,393
I'd like to remind you what
we talked about in Berkeley.

1574
01:11:33,426 --> 01:11:35,763
Compartmentalization.
I understand completely.

1575
01:11:38,933 --> 01:11:39,934
LOMANITZ:
Okay.

1576
01:11:39,967 --> 01:11:41,068
(indistinct chatter)

1577
01:11:41,102 --> 01:11:42,537
Thank you.

1578
01:11:46,974 --> 01:11:49,442
(cheering and applauding)

1579
01:11:50,443 --> 01:11:51,679
LAWRENCE:
<i>Greetings from Berkeley.</i>

1580
01:11:51,712 --> 01:11:53,848
I am here to update you
on our progress

1581
01:11:53,881 --> 01:11:55,415
and solicit your input.

1582
01:11:55,448 --> 01:11:56,818
To do so,
I am going to have to share

1583
01:11:56,851 --> 01:12:00,521
a few things that
General Groves told me not to.

1584
01:12:00,555 --> 01:12:02,355
Sorry, General,
I said I understood,

1585
01:12:02,389 --> 01:12:03,456
not that I agreed.

1586
01:12:03,490 --> 01:12:05,026
-(laughter)
-'Kay.

1587
01:12:05,059 --> 01:12:07,094
Gentlemen, to business.

1588
01:12:07,128 --> 01:12:09,496
There were rumors of espionage
at Los Alamos.

1589
01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:10,998
ROBERT: Unsubstantiated.
Unsubstantiated.

1590
01:12:11,032 --> 01:12:12,499
STRAUSS:
I'm told

1591
01:12:12,533 --> 01:12:13,835
that there were Communists
on the project.

1592
01:12:13,868 --> 01:12:15,636
We didn't knowingly
employ any Communists.

1593
01:12:15,670 --> 01:12:17,437
I just want to know,
were any of them involved

1594
01:12:17,470 --> 01:12:18,940
in discussions of the Super?

1595
01:12:18,973 --> 01:12:21,142
I seem to remember you demanding
your brother come to Los Alamos.

1596
01:12:21,175 --> 01:12:23,443
My brother had left
the Party by then.

1597
01:12:23,476 --> 01:12:24,712
What about Lomanitz?

1598
01:12:24,745 --> 01:12:26,479
Lomanitz was never
employed at Los Alamos.

1599
01:12:26,514 --> 01:12:27,515
He was a liaison.

1600
01:12:27,548 --> 01:12:28,716
Our security was tight,

1601
01:12:28,749 --> 01:12:30,117
as former Colonel Nichols
well knows.

1602
01:12:30,151 --> 01:12:31,719
Our security was as tight
as it could be

1603
01:12:31,752 --> 01:12:33,120
given the personalities
involved,

1604
01:12:33,154 --> 01:12:34,989
but attempts were made.

1605
01:12:35,022 --> 01:12:36,023
What is that supposed to mean?

1606
01:12:36,057 --> 01:12:37,625
We've all read his file here.

1607
01:12:38,659 --> 01:12:40,661
Do we need to talk
about Jean Tatlock?

1608
01:12:41,195 --> 01:12:43,363
Or the Chevalier incident?

1609
01:12:47,969 --> 01:12:49,369
'Scuse me.

1610
01:12:51,205 --> 01:12:52,640
(telephone ringing)

1611
01:12:52,673 --> 01:12:54,642
CHARLOTTE:
That's Lomanitz, line one.

1612
01:13:00,514 --> 01:13:01,549
Hello, Rossi.

1613
01:13:01,582 --> 01:13:04,785
<i>What? O-Okay, just calm down.</i>

1614
01:13:05,753 --> 01:13:08,990
There's been another screw-up.
Lomanitz just got drafted.

1615
01:13:09,023 --> 01:13:11,491
-We are at war, Doctor.
-Don't be an asshole, Nichols.

1616
01:13:11,525 --> 01:13:13,527
We need this kid.
Fix it, will you?

1617
01:13:13,561 --> 01:13:14,762
It wasn't a mistake.

1618
01:13:14,795 --> 01:13:16,130
Your friend Lomanitz
has been trying

1619
01:13:16,163 --> 01:13:18,431
to unionize the Radiation Lab.

1620
01:13:18,465 --> 01:13:19,767
He promised to quit all that.

1621
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,702
Well, he hasn't.

1622
01:13:21,736 --> 01:13:23,604
Security officer at Berkeley's
concerned about

1623
01:13:23,638 --> 01:13:25,940
Communist infiltration
through that union,

1624
01:13:25,973 --> 01:13:28,576
-the F.A...
-F.A.E.C.T.

1625
01:13:30,978 --> 01:13:34,682
While I'm there next week,
I'll drop in to see him.

1626
01:13:36,951 --> 01:13:38,686
Your Q clearance came through.

1627
01:13:42,223 --> 01:13:43,658
It's important
you not maintain or renew

1628
01:13:43,691 --> 01:13:45,960
any questionable associations.

1629
01:13:50,698 --> 01:13:53,200
ROBB: <i>Doctor, did you think</i>
<i>social contacts</i>

1630
01:13:53,234 --> 01:13:55,569
between a person engaged
on secret war work

1631
01:13:55,603 --> 01:13:56,971
and Communists was dangerous?

1632
01:13:57,004 --> 01:14:00,675
My awareness of the danger
would be greater today.

1633
01:14:00,708 --> 01:14:03,611
I mean, it's fair to say
that during the war years,

1634
01:14:03,644 --> 01:14:06,847
<i>you felt that such contacts</i>
<i>were potentially dangerous.</i>

1635
01:14:11,519 --> 01:14:13,254
(elevator dings)

1636
01:14:13,287 --> 01:14:16,257
ROBERT:
<i>Were conceivably dangerous, yes.</i>

1637
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:18,559
ROBB:
<i>I mean, really,</i>

1638
01:14:18,592 --> 01:14:20,628
<i>known Communists.</i>

1639
01:14:22,763 --> 01:14:24,999
ROBERT:
<i>Look... (sighs)</i>

1640
01:14:25,032 --> 01:14:26,567
I've had a lot of secrets

1641
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,570
<i>-in my head for a long time.</i>
-(knock on door)

1642
01:14:30,538 --> 01:14:31,806
<i>Doesn't matter</i>
<i>who I associate with.</i>

1643
01:14:31,839 --> 01:14:34,742
I don't talk about
those secrets.

1644
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:43,784
ROBB:
You said in your statement

1645
01:14:43,818 --> 01:14:49,757
that you had to see
Jean Tatlock in 1943.

1646
01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:52,893
You left.

1647
01:14:54,128 --> 01:14:55,563
Not a word.

1648
01:14:55,596 --> 01:14:58,065
What did you think
that would do to me?

1649
01:14:59,166 --> 01:15:00,234
I wrote.

1650
01:15:00,267 --> 01:15:02,670
Pages of nothing.

1651
01:15:04,939 --> 01:15:07,274
Where did you go?

1652
01:15:07,308 --> 01:15:09,744
-I can't tell you.
-Why not?

1653
01:15:09,777 --> 01:15:12,513
Because you're a Communist.

1654
01:15:14,048 --> 01:15:15,916
Why did you have to see her?

1655
01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:19,053
Because she had indicated
a great desire

1656
01:15:19,086 --> 01:15:20,755
to see me before we left.

1657
01:15:20,788 --> 01:15:21,956
At that time, I couldn't,

1658
01:15:21,989 --> 01:15:25,793
but I felt that
she had to see me.

1659
01:15:25,826 --> 01:15:28,329
She was undergoing
psychiatric treatment.

1660
01:15:28,362 --> 01:15:30,598
She was extremely unhappy.

1661
01:15:30,631 --> 01:15:32,633
Did you find out
why she had to see you?

1662
01:15:32,666 --> 01:15:34,802
(grim music playing)

1663
01:15:37,738 --> 01:15:39,807
Because she was
still in love with me.

1664
01:15:41,675 --> 01:15:44,578
(heavy breathing)

1665
01:15:47,014 --> 01:15:49,083
Spent the night together,
didn't you?

1666
01:15:57,058 --> 01:15:58,092
ROBERT:
Yes.

1667
01:16:03,764 --> 01:16:07,635
You drop in and out of my life,

1668
01:16:07,668 --> 01:16:10,137
and you don't
have to tell me why.

1669
01:16:10,171 --> 01:16:11,639
Now that's power.

1670
01:16:11,672 --> 01:16:13,707
Not that I enjoy.

1671
01:16:14,675 --> 01:16:16,811
I'd rather be here
for you as you need.

1672
01:16:16,844 --> 01:16:19,313
But you have
other priorities now.

1673
01:16:19,346 --> 01:16:22,116
I have a wife and child.

1674
01:16:23,117 --> 01:16:25,920
That's not what either of us
is talking about.

1675
01:16:29,356 --> 01:16:31,225
Jean.

1676
01:16:31,258 --> 01:16:33,394
You asked me to come.

1677
01:16:33,427 --> 01:16:35,796
And I'm glad I did.

1678
01:16:36,430 --> 01:16:38,999
But I can't see you again.

1679
01:16:41,402 --> 01:16:43,104
But what if I need you?

1680
01:16:46,674 --> 01:16:49,643
You said you would
always answer.

1681
01:16:52,113 --> 01:16:53,247
Not a word?

1682
01:16:54,516 --> 01:16:55,584
ROBB: <i>Did you think that</i>
<i>consistent with good security?</i>

1683
01:16:55,616 --> 01:16:58,285
-As a matter of fact, it was.
-(rhythmic stomping)

1684
01:16:58,319 --> 01:17:00,688
<i>Not a word.</i>

1685
01:17:00,721 --> 01:17:02,890
ROBB: When did you
see her after that?

1686
01:17:03,724 --> 01:17:05,893
(stomping intensifying)

1687
01:17:09,363 --> 01:17:11,265
(stomping stops)

1688
01:17:11,298 --> 01:17:12,967
I never saw her again.

1689
01:17:19,173 --> 01:17:21,809
I can make the last train
back to Princeton.

1690
01:17:21,842 --> 01:17:25,012
Kitty, I didn't say anything
that I hadn't already told you.

1691
01:17:25,045 --> 01:17:27,181
Today you said it to history,
didn't you?

1692
01:17:27,214 --> 01:17:28,749
This is a closed hearing.

1693
01:17:30,451 --> 01:17:32,052
KITTY: If they don't release
the transcript,

1694
01:17:32,086 --> 01:17:34,088
-I'm sure you will.
-ROBERT: I was under oath.

1695
01:17:34,121 --> 01:17:35,890
KITTY: Well, you were
under an oath for me

1696
01:17:35,923 --> 01:17:37,725
when you went to see Jean.

1697
01:17:38,392 --> 01:17:39,827
You know, you...

1698
01:17:40,728 --> 01:17:43,030
...you sit there, day after day,

1699
01:17:43,063 --> 01:17:46,100
letting them pick our lives
to pieces.

1700
01:17:49,103 --> 01:17:50,804
Why won't you fight?

1701
01:17:53,941 --> 01:17:57,077
GARRISON: Robert, I'm not
putting her up there.

1702
01:18:02,216 --> 01:18:05,085
Dr. Oppenheimer, it's an honor.
Please, take a seat.

1703
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:08,722
No need, um, I just wanted
to check whether I should

1704
01:18:08,756 --> 01:18:10,925
talk to Lomanitz while I'm here,
given your concerns.

1705
01:18:10,958 --> 01:18:13,060
Well, I'd say that's really
up to you, Professor,

1706
01:18:13,093 --> 01:18:15,262
-but I'd be cautious.
-Uh-huh. Understood.

1707
01:18:15,296 --> 01:18:18,032
Oh, and, um, (clears throat)
as regards to the union,

1708
01:18:18,065 --> 01:18:19,833
I wanted to give you
a heads-up on a...

1709
01:18:19,867 --> 01:18:21,202
on a man named Eltenton.

1710
01:18:21,235 --> 01:18:22,736
A heads-up?

1711
01:18:22,770 --> 01:18:26,707
Yes, just that he might
merit watching is all.

1712
01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:28,943
Well, I'd love
to get more details.

1713
01:18:28,976 --> 01:18:31,312
Well, I...
I have an appointment now

1714
01:18:31,345 --> 01:18:32,780
and I leave early tomorrow.

1715
01:18:32,813 --> 01:18:34,348
Well, come back
as early as you like.

1716
01:18:34,381 --> 01:18:36,717
Since you haven't time now.

1717
01:18:37,384 --> 01:18:39,220
You went back the next morning.

1718
01:18:39,253 --> 01:18:41,255
I did, I had to, really.

1719
01:18:42,189 --> 01:18:44,792
<i>This time, there was</i>
<i>another man.</i>

1720
01:18:45,459 --> 01:18:46,961
He said his name's Pash.

1721
01:18:46,994 --> 01:18:49,496
Pash. You met Colonel Pash?

1722
01:18:49,531 --> 01:18:51,065
ROBB: Colonel Pash,
could you please read

1723
01:18:51,098 --> 01:18:54,902
from your memo
dated June 29, 1943?

1724
01:18:57,004 --> 01:18:59,106
PASH: "Results of surveillance
conducted on subject

1725
01:18:59,139 --> 01:19:01,976
"indicate further possible
Communist Party connections.

1726
01:19:02,009 --> 01:19:04,178
"Subject met with
and spent considerable time

1727
01:19:04,211 --> 01:19:06,413
"with one Jean Tatlock,
Communist,

1728
01:19:06,447 --> 01:19:07,915
the record of whom is attached."

1729
01:19:07,948 --> 01:19:09,817
The subject being
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1730
01:19:09,850 --> 01:19:12,319
-PASH: Yes.
-ROBB: Whom you had not met?

1731
01:19:12,353 --> 01:19:14,154
PASH:
Not then, but soon after.

1732
01:19:14,188 --> 01:19:15,557
He's the head of security
for the project.

1733
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:16,824
Shouldn't I know him?

1734
01:19:16,857 --> 01:19:18,192
No, he should know you.

1735
01:19:18,225 --> 01:19:20,127
I would never put you
in a room with Pash.

1736
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,428
-Why not?
-(sighs)

1737
01:19:21,462 --> 01:19:23,531
When Pash first heard
about Lomanitz,

1738
01:19:23,565 --> 01:19:26,500
he told the FBI
he was gonna kidnap him,

1739
01:19:26,534 --> 01:19:28,002
take him out on a boat

1740
01:19:28,035 --> 01:19:31,038
and interrogate him
in the Russian manner.

1741
01:19:33,173 --> 01:19:36,010
General Groves has placed in me
a certain responsibility,

1742
01:19:36,043 --> 01:19:38,279
and it's like having a child
who I can't see.

1743
01:19:38,312 --> 01:19:40,414
-Ah.
-By remote control.

1744
01:19:40,447 --> 01:19:44,051
-(chuckles quietly)
-So to actually meet you is...

1745
01:19:45,152 --> 01:19:46,588
I won't take up
too much of your time.

1746
01:19:46,621 --> 01:19:48,889
No, no, not at all.
Whatever time you choose.

1747
01:19:48,922 --> 01:19:51,825
Mm. Mr. Johnson told me
of a conversation

1748
01:19:51,859 --> 01:19:53,595
you had yesterday
in which I'm very interested.

1749
01:19:53,628 --> 01:19:55,896
It's had me worried all day.

1750
01:19:55,929 --> 01:19:58,432
Yes, well, I didn't want
to talk to Lomanitz

1751
01:19:58,465 --> 01:20:00,000
without authorization.

1752
01:20:00,034 --> 01:20:01,235
That's not the particular
interest that I have.

1753
01:20:01,268 --> 01:20:03,237
It's something
a little bit more...

1754
01:20:04,271 --> 01:20:06,040
...well, in my opinion,
more serious.

1755
01:20:06,073 --> 01:20:09,009
Now, when the FBI pointed out
that such information

1756
01:20:09,043 --> 01:20:10,578
wouldn't be admissible in court,
Pash made it clear

1757
01:20:10,612 --> 01:20:14,381
he had no intention of leaving
any witness left to prosecute.

1758
01:20:14,415 --> 01:20:15,983
Now, the FBI talked him down,

1759
01:20:16,016 --> 01:20:17,585
but that's the man
you're dancing with.

1760
01:20:17,619 --> 01:20:20,321
I gather you've heard
there are other parties

1761
01:20:20,354 --> 01:20:23,057
interested in the work
of the Radiation Lab.

1762
01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:26,994
A man attached
to the Soviet Consul

1763
01:20:27,027 --> 01:20:30,064
indicated,
through intermediate people,

1764
01:20:30,097 --> 01:20:31,633
to people on this project,

1765
01:20:31,666 --> 01:20:35,102
that he was in a position
to transmit information.

1766
01:20:35,135 --> 01:20:37,971
Oh, why would anyone
on the project want to do that?

1767
01:20:39,406 --> 01:20:41,942
Frankly, I can see that
there might be an argument

1768
01:20:41,975 --> 01:20:44,378
for the Commander-in-Chief
informing the Russians--

1769
01:20:44,411 --> 01:20:46,280
they're our allies after all--

1770
01:20:46,313 --> 01:20:49,216
but I don't like the idea of it
going out the back door.

1771
01:20:49,249 --> 01:20:51,985
It might not hurt
to be on the lookout for it.

1772
01:20:53,387 --> 01:20:54,556
And you said that to Pash?

1773
01:20:54,589 --> 01:20:56,090
I was trying to put it

1774
01:20:56,123 --> 01:20:58,959
in a context
of Russia's not Germany.

1775
01:20:58,992 --> 01:21:03,397
Boris Pash is the son
of a Russian Orthodox bishop.

1776
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:06,934
Born here, but in 1918,
he went back to Russia

1777
01:21:06,967 --> 01:21:08,402
to fight the Bolsheviks.

1778
01:21:08,435 --> 01:21:10,605
This is a man who has killed
Communists with his own hands.

1779
01:21:10,638 --> 01:21:14,108
I'm not the judge of who should
or should not have information.

1780
01:21:14,141 --> 01:21:16,176
It's my business to stop it
from going through illegally.

1781
01:21:16,210 --> 01:21:18,412
Would you be
a little more specific?

1782
01:21:19,681 --> 01:21:21,248
(smacks lips)

1783
01:21:21,281 --> 01:21:24,151
There's a man whose name
was mentioned to me

1784
01:21:24,184 --> 01:21:26,286
a couple of times. Eltenton.

1785
01:21:27,321 --> 01:21:30,424
Uh, I believe he's a chemist
who works at Shell.

1786
01:21:30,457 --> 01:21:32,993
He talked to a friend of his

1787
01:21:33,026 --> 01:21:36,930
who's an acquaintance
of someone on the project.

1788
01:21:38,165 --> 01:21:40,602
And you thought Pash
would be satisfied with that?

1789
01:21:40,635 --> 01:21:43,170
I was attempting
to give them Eltenton

1790
01:21:43,203 --> 01:21:44,539
without opening a can of worms.

1791
01:21:44,572 --> 01:21:46,541
I told them
a cock-and-bull story.

1792
01:21:46,574 --> 01:21:48,108
Did you lie
to General Groves too?

1793
01:21:48,142 --> 01:21:51,679
No. I admitted to him
that I'd lied to Pash.

1794
01:21:51,713 --> 01:21:53,147
GARRISON:
Do you recall this conversation

1795
01:21:53,180 --> 01:21:55,583
-about the Chevalier incident?
-(scoffs)

1796
01:21:55,617 --> 01:21:58,018
I've seen so many
versions of it. Um...

1797
01:21:58,051 --> 01:21:59,219
Wasn't confused before,

1798
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:00,688
but I'm certainly
getting there now.

1799
01:22:00,722 --> 01:22:02,022
GARRISON:
And what was your conclusion?

1800
01:22:02,055 --> 01:22:04,425
That he was under
the influence of

1801
01:22:04,458 --> 01:22:07,327
the typical American
schoolboy attitude

1802
01:22:07,361 --> 01:22:10,964
that there's something wicked
about telling on a friend.

1803
01:22:10,998 --> 01:22:13,033
Well, now.

1804
01:22:13,066 --> 01:22:15,502
Might we know through whom
the contact was made?

1805
01:22:15,537 --> 01:22:17,739
That would in... involve people

1806
01:22:17,772 --> 01:22:19,741
who are not to be
involved in this.

1807
01:22:19,774 --> 01:22:22,544
Is that someone
a member of the project?

1808
01:22:22,577 --> 01:22:27,114
A member of the faculty, yes,
but not in the project, no.

1809
01:22:27,147 --> 01:22:28,248
Ah.

1810
01:22:28,282 --> 01:22:30,050
So Eltenton made his approach

1811
01:22:30,083 --> 01:22:33,320
through a member of
the faculty here at Berkeley?

1812
01:22:35,055 --> 01:22:37,525
As far as I know.
As far as I know, yes.

1813
01:22:37,559 --> 01:22:40,194
But there-there may have been

1814
01:22:40,227 --> 01:22:42,963
more than one person involved.

1815
01:22:46,366 --> 01:22:49,571
Gentlemen, if I...
if I seem uncooperative,

1816
01:22:49,604 --> 01:22:52,540
I think you can understand
that's because of my insistence

1817
01:22:52,574 --> 01:22:55,175
in not getting
innocent people into trouble.

1818
01:22:55,209 --> 01:22:57,010
GROVES: <i>You're trying</i>
<i>to protect your friend.</i>

1819
01:22:57,044 --> 01:22:58,278
Who's protecting you?

1820
01:22:58,312 --> 01:22:59,714
Well, you could.

1821
01:22:59,747 --> 01:23:01,081
If you gave me the name.

1822
01:23:01,114 --> 01:23:03,050
If you order me to, I'll do it.

1823
01:23:03,083 --> 01:23:04,117
That's a mistake, Robert.

1824
01:23:04,151 --> 01:23:05,986
You need to volunteer this name.

1825
01:23:06,821 --> 01:23:08,489
ROBB:
<i>And did he give you the name?</i>

1826
01:23:08,523 --> 01:23:09,657
GROVES:
<i>He did.</i>

1827
01:23:09,691 --> 01:23:11,158
-ROBB: But not then, did he?
-No.

1828
01:23:11,191 --> 01:23:12,660
No. In fact, it was some
months later, wasn't it?

1829
01:23:12,694 --> 01:23:14,596
It was.

1830
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:15,730
You see me as persistent.

1831
01:23:15,763 --> 01:23:17,498
Well, you are...

1832
01:23:17,532 --> 01:23:19,366
you are persistent,
but that is your job.

1833
01:23:19,399 --> 01:23:23,103
And-and my job is to protect
the people that work for me.

1834
01:23:23,136 --> 01:23:25,138
PASH: Instead of us going
on certain steps,

1835
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:27,274
which may come
to your attention...

1836
01:23:28,643 --> 01:23:30,410
...and be disturbing to you,

1837
01:23:30,444 --> 01:23:33,548
I would like to discuss
those with you first.

1838
01:23:33,581 --> 01:23:35,082
I'm not formulating a plan.

1839
01:23:35,115 --> 01:23:37,451
I'll just have to digest
the whole thing.

1840
01:23:41,088 --> 01:23:43,791
ROBB: <i>In the months</i>
<i>in between your interview</i>

1841
01:23:43,825 --> 01:23:47,461
with Dr. Oppenheimer and his
eventual naming of Chevalier,

1842
01:23:47,494 --> 01:23:48,796
did you expend resources

1843
01:23:48,830 --> 01:23:50,297
trying to find the name
of the intermediary?

1844
01:23:50,330 --> 01:23:52,800
Considerable resources, yes.

1845
01:23:52,834 --> 01:23:55,068
Without the name, our job
was extremely difficult.

1846
01:23:55,102 --> 01:23:56,538
And when did you
receive the name?

1847
01:23:56,571 --> 01:23:57,805
I was gone by the time

1848
01:23:57,839 --> 01:24:00,274
-Oppenheimer finally
offered it up. -Gone?

1849
01:24:00,307 --> 01:24:02,476
They felt my time would be
better spent in Europe

1850
01:24:02,510 --> 01:24:05,245
determining the status
of the Nazi bomb project.

1851
01:24:05,279 --> 01:24:06,446
Who did?

1852
01:24:07,549 --> 01:24:09,283
General Groves.

1853
01:24:09,316 --> 01:24:11,084
He transferred me to London.

1854
01:24:17,525 --> 01:24:19,627
SERBER: <i>It's a little early</i>
<i>for a Christmas party.</i>

1855
01:24:19,661 --> 01:24:21,663
Something's up.

1856
01:24:21,696 --> 01:24:23,731
Tolman's been away.

1857
01:24:23,765 --> 01:24:25,465
Where?

1858
01:24:25,499 --> 01:24:27,067
Ruth won't tell.

1859
01:24:29,604 --> 01:24:31,573
(lively chatter and laughter)

1860
01:24:31,606 --> 01:24:32,607
Hey!

1861
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,341
(playing upbeat music)

1862
01:24:36,778 --> 01:24:38,312
Come on, Ruthie.

1863
01:24:38,345 --> 01:24:40,414
Can't tell me, who can you tell?

1864
01:24:40,447 --> 01:24:43,183
RUTH:
Compartmentalization, Oppie.

1865
01:24:43,216 --> 01:24:44,586
What makes you think
I know where he is anyway?

1866
01:24:44,619 --> 01:24:46,320
ROBERT:
'Cause you do a pretty good job

1867
01:24:46,353 --> 01:24:49,122
of knowing where Mr. Tolman is
when it counts.

1868
01:24:49,156 --> 01:24:50,692
Like now?

1869
01:24:50,725 --> 01:24:54,161
GROVES:
Attention!

1870
01:24:54,194 --> 01:24:56,096
(chatter and music subside)

1871
01:24:57,364 --> 01:24:59,299
Early Christmas present
for you all.

1872
01:25:00,702 --> 01:25:03,503
(applause)

1873
01:25:03,538 --> 01:25:06,106
(crowd cheering)

1874
01:25:07,374 --> 01:25:09,744
BOHR: <i>The British pilots</i>
<i>put me in the bomb bay.</i>

1875
01:25:09,777 --> 01:25:11,779
Showed me the-the oxygen,
you know,

1876
01:25:11,813 --> 01:25:13,548
-but I messed it up.
-(crowd laughs)

1877
01:25:13,581 --> 01:25:16,183
Uh, when they opened me up
in Scotland, I was unconscious.

1878
01:25:16,216 --> 01:25:18,418
But I pretended
I'd been napping.

1879
01:25:18,452 --> 01:25:19,353
(crowd laughing)

1880
01:25:19,386 --> 01:25:20,822
Please enjoy your party.

1881
01:25:20,855 --> 01:25:22,155
(light applause)

1882
01:25:22,189 --> 01:25:23,490
(whispering):
Is it big enough?

1883
01:25:23,524 --> 01:25:24,792
To end the war?

1884
01:25:24,826 --> 01:25:27,729
To end all war.

1885
01:25:29,262 --> 01:25:30,531
(intriguing music playing)

1886
01:25:30,565 --> 01:25:34,636
Uh, Heisenberg sought me out
in Copenhagen.

1887
01:25:34,669 --> 01:25:36,403
It was chilling,

1888
01:25:36,436 --> 01:25:38,472
my old student
working for the Nazis.

1889
01:25:38,506 --> 01:25:42,409
He told me some things
to draw me out.

1890
01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:46,648
Sustained fission reactions
in uranium.

1891
01:25:46,681 --> 01:25:48,883
That sounds more like
a reactor than a bomb.

1892
01:25:48,916 --> 01:25:50,350
Did he mention
gaseous diffusion?

1893
01:25:50,384 --> 01:25:52,654
He seemed more focused
on heavy water.

1894
01:25:52,687 --> 01:25:54,388
As a moderator?

1895
01:25:54,421 --> 01:25:55,790
Yes, instead of graphite.

1896
01:25:55,823 --> 01:25:58,158
-(Teller snorts)
-(laughter)

1897
01:25:58,826 --> 01:26:00,193
What?

1898
01:26:00,227 --> 01:26:02,396
He took a wrong turn.

1899
01:26:02,429 --> 01:26:04,899
We're ahead. And with you here
to help us, Niels.

1900
01:26:04,932 --> 01:26:07,200
Sorry, could you...

1901
01:26:07,234 --> 01:26:10,170
could you give us a moment,
gentlemen?

1902
01:26:16,343 --> 01:26:18,880
I am not here to help, Robert.

1903
01:26:18,913 --> 01:26:20,815
I knew you could
do this without me.

1904
01:26:20,848 --> 01:26:21,949
Then why did you come?

1905
01:26:21,983 --> 01:26:23,417
BOHR:
To talk about after.

1906
01:26:23,450 --> 01:26:25,419
The power you're about to reveal

1907
01:26:25,452 --> 01:26:27,655
will forever outlive the Nazis.

1908
01:26:28,723 --> 01:26:30,323
And the world is not prepared.

1909
01:26:30,357 --> 01:26:31,759
"You could lift the stone

1910
01:26:31,793 --> 01:26:34,428
without being ready
for the snake that's revealed."

1911
01:26:34,461 --> 01:26:35,830
We have to make
the politicians understand,

1912
01:26:35,863 --> 01:26:37,965
this isn't a new weapon.

1913
01:26:37,999 --> 01:26:39,466
It's a new world.

1914
01:26:39,499 --> 01:26:42,870
I'll be out there
doing what I can, but you...

1915
01:26:42,904 --> 01:26:45,472
you're an American Prometheus.

1916
01:26:45,506 --> 01:26:47,742
The man who gave them the power

1917
01:26:47,775 --> 01:26:49,811
to destroy themselves,

1918
01:26:49,844 --> 01:26:51,478
and they'll respect that.

1919
01:26:51,512 --> 01:26:53,681
And your work really begins.

1920
01:26:57,618 --> 01:27:00,755
I'm sorry, Oppie,
but there's a call.

1921
01:27:01,889 --> 01:27:04,625
From San Francisco.

1922
01:27:04,659 --> 01:27:06,728
(somber music playing)

1923
01:27:10,898 --> 01:27:12,600
Robert!

1924
01:27:15,837 --> 01:27:17,370
Robert?

1925
01:27:18,039 --> 01:27:20,608
Robert. Robert.

1926
01:27:20,641 --> 01:27:22,844
-God, what's the matter?
-(grunts softly)

1927
01:27:22,877 --> 01:27:24,645
-What happened?
-(sighs)

1928
01:27:25,513 --> 01:27:27,447
ROBERT:
Her father called.

1929
01:27:27,481 --> 01:27:29,617
They found her yesterday
in the bath.

1930
01:27:30,618 --> 01:27:31,753
Who?

1931
01:27:32,754 --> 01:27:34,756
She'd taken pills.

1932
01:27:34,789 --> 01:27:36,691
<i>Left a note, not signed.</i>

1933
01:27:37,692 --> 01:27:38,659
She took barbiturates,

1934
01:27:38,693 --> 01:27:40,628
but there was chloral hydrate
in her blood.

1935
01:27:40,661 --> 01:27:42,029
(muffled screaming)

1936
01:27:42,063 --> 01:27:43,965
(screaming stops)

1937
01:27:43,998 --> 01:27:45,332
There was a note.

1938
01:27:45,365 --> 01:27:47,668
(whispering):
Jean Tatlock?

1939
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:55,442
We were together.

1940
01:27:55,475 --> 01:27:58,278
She said she needed me. I...

1941
01:28:00,380 --> 01:28:03,316
I told her I... I wouldn't...
(shudders)

1942
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:04,986
I told her I couldn't...

1943
01:28:05,019 --> 01:28:06,687
No, it was... it was me.

1944
01:28:08,488 --> 01:28:09,657
(Kitty breathing heavily)

1945
01:28:09,690 --> 01:28:11,793
You don't get to commit the sin

1946
01:28:11,826 --> 01:28:13,628
and then have us all
feel sorry for you

1947
01:28:13,661 --> 01:28:16,531
that it had consequences.
(breath shuddering)

1948
01:28:18,599 --> 01:28:20,802
-You pull yourself together.
-(sniffling)

1949
01:28:24,471 --> 01:28:26,607
You know,
people here depend on you.

1950
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:30,578
SERBER:
Donald, would you like

1951
01:28:30,611 --> 01:28:31,679
to contribute here?
Please, help me out.

1952
01:28:31,712 --> 01:28:32,914
HORNIG:
You're on your own, pal.

1953
01:28:32,947 --> 01:28:34,048
Bob, I'm not quitting my job

1954
01:28:34,081 --> 01:28:35,415
because plutonium
is radioactive.

1955
01:28:35,448 --> 01:28:36,984
We just don't know
what it might do

1956
01:28:37,018 --> 01:28:38,753
to the female
reproductive system...

1957
01:28:38,786 --> 01:28:40,688
Your reproductive system is more
exposed than mine, presumably.

1958
01:28:40,721 --> 01:28:43,591
Can we please? The implosion
device is nowhere.

1959
01:28:43,624 --> 01:28:45,026
Hey, you can't rush everything.

1960
01:28:45,059 --> 01:28:46,594
-Oppie, please.
-Well, there's rushing

1961
01:28:46,627 --> 01:28:48,428
and there's getting on
with it, so pick one.

1962
01:28:48,461 --> 01:28:50,463
Wait. Neddermeyer's
doing his job.

1963
01:28:50,497 --> 01:28:51,431
Teller's not helping.

1964
01:28:51,464 --> 01:28:53,000
You're not helping.

1965
01:28:53,034 --> 01:28:54,434
I've been asking
for calculations

1966
01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:55,603
on the implosion lenses
for weeks.

1967
01:28:55,636 --> 01:28:57,104
The British can do it. Fuchs.

1968
01:28:57,138 --> 01:28:58,438
Absolutely.

1969
01:28:58,471 --> 01:28:59,841
It's your job, Teller.

1970
01:28:59,874 --> 01:29:01,676
I'm engaged in research.

1971
01:29:01,709 --> 01:29:04,377
On a hydrogen bomb
we're not even building.

1972
01:29:04,411 --> 01:29:05,847
(others laughing)

1973
01:29:12,485 --> 01:29:13,855
I won't work for that man.

1974
01:29:13,888 --> 01:29:15,590
(others exclaim)

1975
01:29:15,623 --> 01:29:17,725
Let him go. He's a prima donna.

1976
01:29:17,758 --> 01:29:19,994
SERBER: I agree.
He should leave Los Alamos.

1977
01:29:20,027 --> 01:29:21,529
Okay.

1978
01:29:21,562 --> 01:29:23,430
Kisty, you replace Neddermeyer.

1979
01:29:23,463 --> 01:29:24,866
Seth, I'm putting you
on plutonium.

1980
01:29:24,899 --> 01:29:28,002
Lilli, you go work for Kisty.
Because he needs you.

1981
01:29:28,035 --> 01:29:30,605
Fuchs, you take Teller's role.

1982
01:29:30,638 --> 01:29:33,007
I'm putting you exclusively
on the implosion device.

1983
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,811
And no one is leaving
Los Alamos.

1984
01:29:36,844 --> 01:29:39,580
(rousing music playing)

1985
01:29:51,058 --> 01:29:53,027
-They won't let me leave.
-ROBERT: No.

1986
01:29:53,060 --> 01:29:54,662
I won't let you leave.

1987
01:29:55,529 --> 01:29:58,633
Forget Hans. Forget fission.

1988
01:29:58,666 --> 01:30:01,802
Stay here,
research what you want.

1989
01:30:01,836 --> 01:30:04,437
Fusion, the hydrogen bomb,
whatever.

1990
01:30:04,471 --> 01:30:05,640
We'll meet to discuss.

1991
01:30:05,673 --> 01:30:07,141
You don't have time to meet.

1992
01:30:07,174 --> 01:30:08,743
You're a politician now, Robert.

1993
01:30:08,776 --> 01:30:11,411
You've left physics behind
many, many years ago.

1994
01:30:12,246 --> 01:30:14,048
Once a week.

1995
01:30:14,081 --> 01:30:15,950
One hour. You and me.

1996
01:30:21,122 --> 01:30:23,691
Now raise this fucking barrier.

1997
01:30:27,628 --> 01:30:30,064
ROBB: <i>So the Super</i>
<i>was under development</i>

1998
01:30:30,097 --> 01:30:32,066
<i>on your watch at Los Alamos?</i>

1999
01:30:32,099 --> 01:30:33,601
Yes.

2000
01:30:33,634 --> 01:30:35,502
ROBB:
And yet, after the war,

2001
01:30:35,536 --> 01:30:37,138
you tried to deny it was viable.

2002
01:30:37,171 --> 01:30:38,673
No, no, no. I...

2003
01:30:38,706 --> 01:30:40,541
I pointed out
technical difficulties with it.

2004
01:30:40,574 --> 01:30:42,209
You... Didn't you try
to kill it at the AEC meeting

2005
01:30:42,243 --> 01:30:43,811
-after the Russian bomb test?
-No.

2006
01:30:43,844 --> 01:30:45,947
ROBB: But that was
the recommendation of the AEC,

2007
01:30:45,980 --> 01:30:48,249
-was it not?
-After hours of discussion

2008
01:30:48,282 --> 01:30:50,551
<i>about the best response.</i>

2009
01:30:50,584 --> 01:30:55,690
An H-bomb is 1,000 times
the power of an A-bomb.

2010
01:30:56,857 --> 01:31:00,628
Its only intended target
would be the largest cities.

2011
01:31:00,661 --> 01:31:02,763
It's a weapon of mass genocide.

2012
01:31:02,797 --> 01:31:05,099
Izzy, draw some circles
on this side of the map

2013
01:31:05,132 --> 01:31:06,767
where they would target us.

2014
01:31:06,801 --> 01:31:08,836
-Starting with New York. D.C.
-RABI: That's fair.

2015
01:31:08,869 --> 01:31:11,639
It's a weapon of attack
with no defensive value.

2016
01:31:11,672 --> 01:31:13,207
-Deterrence.
-BUSH: "Deterrence"?

2017
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,842
Do we really need
more deterrence

2018
01:31:14,875 --> 01:31:17,278
than our current arsenal
of atomic bombs?

2019
01:31:17,311 --> 01:31:20,014
Y-You drown in ten feet
of water or-or 10,000,

2020
01:31:20,047 --> 01:31:21,716
-what's the difference?
-(rhythmic stomping)

2021
01:31:21,749 --> 01:31:23,718
We can already drown Russia.
They know it.

2022
01:31:23,751 --> 01:31:26,020
-And now they can drown us.
-So we're just escalating...

2023
01:31:26,053 --> 01:31:27,855
(stomping intensifying)

2024
01:31:27,888 --> 01:31:30,091
(discussion continues
indistinctly)

2025
01:31:33,928 --> 01:31:35,529
(stomping stops)

2026
01:31:36,931 --> 01:31:39,767
As I said,
Teller's designs are still as

2027
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,736
impractical as they were
during the war.

2028
01:31:41,769 --> 01:31:44,739
A hydrogen bomb can be made
to work, Oppie, you know that.

2029
01:31:44,772 --> 01:31:45,906
I don't believe we should commit

2030
01:31:45,940 --> 01:31:47,842
all our resources
to that chance.

2031
01:31:47,875 --> 01:31:50,745
Then how would you have Truman
reassure the American people?

2032
01:31:50,778 --> 01:31:52,980
Simply by limiting the spread
of atomic weapons

2033
01:31:53,014 --> 01:31:56,317
through international control
on nuclear energy.

2034
01:31:56,350 --> 01:31:57,918
By which you mean
world government?

2035
01:31:57,952 --> 01:32:00,888
The United Nations
as Roosevelt intended.

2036
01:32:00,921 --> 01:32:03,824
Well, I... I asked what Truman
should do, right?

2037
01:32:03,858 --> 01:32:06,761
The world's changed,
it's not fascism but Communism

2038
01:32:06,794 --> 01:32:08,262
that now threatens our survival.

2039
01:32:08,295 --> 01:32:11,932
Lewis, do you understand,
if we build a hydrogen bomb,

2040
01:32:11,966 --> 01:32:14,835
the Russians will have no choice
but to build their own?

2041
01:32:14,869 --> 01:32:16,637
Could they be working
on one already?

2042
01:32:16,670 --> 01:32:19,173
Based on information gathered
from a spy at Los Alamos.

2043
01:32:19,206 --> 01:32:20,674
No spy at Los Alamos.

2044
01:32:20,708 --> 01:32:21,776
-Gentlemen.
-There wasn't?

2045
01:32:21,809 --> 01:32:23,044
Let's not get sidetracked.

2046
01:32:23,077 --> 01:32:24,779
I say we use this moment

2047
01:32:24,812 --> 01:32:26,213
to gain concessions
from the Russians

2048
01:32:26,247 --> 01:32:29,316
by committing that we will not
build a hydrogen bomb.

2049
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:30,985
Thereby revealing its existence.

2050
01:32:31,018 --> 01:32:33,020
Which you seem convinced
they already know.

2051
01:32:33,054 --> 01:32:34,655
(clears throat) All right.

2052
01:32:34,688 --> 01:32:36,791
At this point, I'd like
the committee members

2053
01:32:36,824 --> 01:32:40,761
to meet in privacy to finalize
our recommendations.

2054
01:32:41,896 --> 01:32:43,898
I'm just not sure you want
to go down this road.

2055
01:32:43,931 --> 01:32:46,200
Lewis, with respect,
we are the advisory committee,

2056
01:32:46,233 --> 01:32:48,002
we will give them our advice.

2057
01:32:48,035 --> 01:32:49,136
STRAUSS:
Good night.

2058
01:32:53,340 --> 01:32:57,611
Dr. Oppenheimer?
Hi. William Borden.

2059
01:32:57,645 --> 01:32:58,979
Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy?

2060
01:32:59,013 --> 01:33:00,214
Oh, yes, yes.

2061
01:33:00,247 --> 01:33:01,882
During the war, I was a pilot.

2062
01:33:03,017 --> 01:33:05,753
One night,
flying back from a raid,

2063
01:33:05,786 --> 01:33:08,689
I saw an amazing sight
like a meteor.

2064
01:33:08,722 --> 01:33:09,857
(engine rumbling)

2065
01:33:09,890 --> 01:33:12,660
<i>A V-2 rocket headed to England.</i>

2066
01:33:12,693 --> 01:33:14,695
I can't help but imagine
what it will be

2067
01:33:14,728 --> 01:33:18,632
for such an enemy rocket
to carry an atomic warhead.

2068
01:33:18,666 --> 01:33:20,734
(rhythmic stomping)

2069
01:33:21,368 --> 01:33:22,303
(rocket engine rumbling)

2070
01:33:22,336 --> 01:33:24,905
(stomping intensifying)

2071
01:33:24,939 --> 01:33:25,806
(stomping stops)

2072
01:33:27,408 --> 01:33:28,742
Well, let's make sure
we're not the ones

2073
01:33:28,776 --> 01:33:30,077
to make that possible.

2074
01:33:36,784 --> 01:33:39,687
Oppie, I don't think you want
to go up against Strauss.

2075
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,789
If we both speak,
they listen to me.

2076
01:33:41,822 --> 01:33:43,891
When you speak,
they hear a prophet.

2077
01:33:43,924 --> 01:33:45,893
When Strauss speaks,
they hear themselves.

2078
01:33:45,926 --> 01:33:47,728
They'll listen to a prophet.

2079
01:33:47,761 --> 01:33:51,031
A prophet can't be wrong.
Not once.

2080
01:33:51,065 --> 01:33:52,833
SENATOR McGEE:
<i>Didn't you accuse Oppenheimer</i>

2081
01:33:52,867 --> 01:33:54,768
<i>of sabotaging the development</i>
<i>of the Super?</i>

2082
01:33:54,802 --> 01:33:56,403
I was never one of those

2083
01:33:56,437 --> 01:33:59,707
to bandy around terms
like "sabotage."

2084
01:33:59,740 --> 01:34:01,709
SENATOR McGEE:
<i>But Mr. Borden was?</i>

2085
01:34:01,742 --> 01:34:03,010
As I understand it, possibly.

2086
01:34:03,043 --> 01:34:05,146
How was Mr. Borden able
to put together

2087
01:34:05,179 --> 01:34:06,447
such a detailed indictment?

2088
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,015
<i>He was no longer</i>
<i>a government employee,</i>

2089
01:34:08,048 --> 01:34:10,684
yet he appears to have
had unlimited access

2090
01:34:10,718 --> 01:34:12,219
to Dr. Oppenheimer's file.

2091
01:34:12,253 --> 01:34:15,156
<i>Might Mr. Nichols have</i>
<i>given him access to the file?</i>

2092
01:34:15,189 --> 01:34:17,091
Or someone else, at the AEC?

2093
01:34:17,124 --> 01:34:19,960
That's a very serious
accusation, Senator.

2094
01:34:19,994 --> 01:34:22,463
Is it your intention to
suggest that Dr. Oppenheimer

2095
01:34:22,496 --> 01:34:24,431
is disloyal
to the United States?

2096
01:34:24,465 --> 01:34:27,001
I've always assumed,
and still assume,

2097
01:34:27,034 --> 01:34:29,737
that he's loyal
to the United States.

2098
01:34:29,770 --> 01:34:31,205
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

2099
01:34:31,238 --> 01:34:34,041
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

2100
01:34:34,074 --> 01:34:35,843
ROBB:
<i>Do you or do you not believe</i>

2101
01:34:35,876 --> 01:34:38,245
<i>that Dr. Oppenheimer</i>
<i>is a security risk?</i>

2102
01:34:39,346 --> 01:34:41,815
(suspenseful music plays)

2103
01:34:46,453 --> 01:34:48,088
PHILIP MORRISON:
And if I may,

2104
01:34:48,122 --> 01:34:50,925
when Hitler blew
his brains out in that bunker,

2105
01:34:50,958 --> 01:34:52,493
it's my humble opinion
that there is no need

2106
01:34:52,527 --> 01:34:53,994
for that bomb
to be seen anywhere

2107
01:34:54,028 --> 01:34:55,796
-except for that test site.
-(applause)

2108
01:34:55,829 --> 01:34:57,831
HORNIG: But we at least
have to take a moment

2109
01:34:57,865 --> 01:34:59,867
to think about whether the means

2110
01:34:59,900 --> 01:35:02,169
justify the ends
any longer, because...

2111
01:35:04,505 --> 01:35:07,074
Germany is about to surrender.

2112
01:35:07,107 --> 01:35:08,943
(applause)

2113
01:35:08,976 --> 01:35:12,313
It's no longer the enemy
who are the greatest threat

2114
01:35:12,346 --> 01:35:14,148
to mankind, it's our work.

2115
01:35:14,181 --> 01:35:15,849
(people murmur)

2116
01:35:16,551 --> 01:35:19,286
Hitler's dead, it's true.

2117
01:35:20,988 --> 01:35:22,524
But the Japanese fight on.

2118
01:35:22,557 --> 01:35:24,225
Their defeat seems assured.

2119
01:35:24,258 --> 01:35:27,261
Not if you're a G.I.
preparing to invade.

2120
01:35:28,563 --> 01:35:29,863
We can end this war.

2121
01:35:29,897 --> 01:35:31,298
MORRISON:
But how do we justify

2122
01:35:31,332 --> 01:35:32,900
using this weapon
on human beings?

2123
01:35:32,933 --> 01:35:34,868
-(murmurs of assent)
-(scattered applause)

2124
01:35:35,936 --> 01:35:39,340
We're theorists, yes?

2125
01:35:39,373 --> 01:35:40,975
PEOPLE:
Yes. Yep.

2126
01:35:41,008 --> 01:35:45,045
We imagine a future
and our imaginings horrify us.

2127
01:35:46,113 --> 01:35:48,249
But they won't fear it
until they understand it,

2128
01:35:48,282 --> 01:35:51,185
and they won't understand it
until they've used it.

2129
01:35:51,218 --> 01:35:52,386
When the world learns

2130
01:35:52,419 --> 01:35:54,922
the terrible secret
of Los Alamos,

2131
01:35:54,955 --> 01:35:58,392
our work here will ensure
a peace mankind has never seen.

2132
01:35:58,425 --> 01:36:01,795
A peace based on the kind
of international cooperation

2133
01:36:01,829 --> 01:36:03,864
that Roosevelt always envisaged.

2134
01:36:03,897 --> 01:36:06,000
(scattered applause)

2135
01:36:08,969 --> 01:36:10,204
ROBERT:
<i>Progress?</i>

2136
01:36:10,237 --> 01:36:13,007
Two years and
a billion dollars' worth?

2137
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,808
Well, hard to put a price on it.

2138
01:36:14,842 --> 01:36:16,410
Not really,
just add up the bills.

2139
01:36:16,443 --> 01:36:18,145
"Rural free deliveries."

2140
01:36:18,178 --> 01:36:20,948
Eighty babies delivered
the first year.

2141
01:36:20,981 --> 01:36:23,317
This year,
we've had ten a month.

2142
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:26,086
Birth control is a little out
of my jurisdiction, General.

2143
01:36:26,954 --> 01:36:29,290
-GROVES: Clearly.
-KITTY: General.

2144
01:36:29,323 --> 01:36:31,225
(thrilling music playing)

2145
01:36:34,261 --> 01:36:35,597
Head down, everyone.

2146
01:36:35,630 --> 01:36:37,798
Fuchs, head down.

2147
01:36:40,301 --> 01:36:41,468
Hmm? (sniffs)

2148
01:36:41,502 --> 01:36:42,503
(spool winds)

2149
01:36:42,537 --> 01:36:44,305
(explosion)

2150
01:36:44,338 --> 01:36:46,073
That's the one. (grunts)

2151
01:36:46,106 --> 01:36:49,009
Two viable bombs. I need a date.

2152
01:36:51,312 --> 01:36:53,147
September.

2153
01:36:53,180 --> 01:36:54,181
July.

2154
01:36:54,214 --> 01:36:56,150
That's the sweet spot,
gentlemen.

2155
01:36:56,183 --> 01:36:58,352
August.

2156
01:36:58,385 --> 01:37:00,120
July.

2157
01:37:00,154 --> 01:37:01,955
Test in July.

2158
01:37:01,989 --> 01:37:03,625
But I need my brother.

2159
01:37:03,658 --> 01:37:06,160
(thrilling music continues)

2160
01:37:07,995 --> 01:37:09,930
Frank knows the desert,
he's left politics behind,

2161
01:37:09,963 --> 01:37:12,399
he's been working with
Lawrence for two years now.

2162
01:37:19,373 --> 01:37:21,208
What do we call the test?

2163
01:37:22,309 --> 01:37:26,080
"Batter my heart,
three-person'd god."

2164
01:37:26,113 --> 01:37:27,214
What?

2165
01:37:28,583 --> 01:37:29,983
Trinity.

2166
01:37:37,659 --> 01:37:39,026
ROBB:
You insisted

2167
01:37:39,059 --> 01:37:40,361
on bringing on
your brother Frank,

2168
01:37:40,394 --> 01:37:41,995
-a known Communist.
-A former Communist.

2169
01:37:42,029 --> 01:37:44,465
You brought a known
former Communist

2170
01:37:44,498 --> 01:37:48,369
onto America's most secret
and important defense project.

2171
01:37:48,402 --> 01:37:51,505
I knew my brother
could be trusted. Absolutely.

2172
01:37:51,539 --> 01:37:53,508
And you felt
your judgment was sound

2173
01:37:53,541 --> 01:37:55,376
on who on the team
could be trusted?

2174
01:37:56,377 --> 01:37:57,512
Fuchs, head down.

2175
01:37:57,545 --> 01:37:59,279
Okay, everybody ready?

2176
01:38:00,648 --> 01:38:02,584
Hmm? (sniffs)

2177
01:38:02,617 --> 01:38:04,385
-(spool winds)
-Oh.

2178
01:38:04,418 --> 01:38:06,019
(explosion)

2179
01:38:07,522 --> 01:38:08,656
Oh.

2180
01:38:08,690 --> 01:38:10,424
Well, I hope
you learned something.

2181
01:38:10,457 --> 01:38:12,359
Yeah, we learned we're gonna
need to be a lot further away.

2182
01:38:12,393 --> 01:38:13,961
Well, figure it out. Fast.

2183
01:38:13,994 --> 01:38:15,663
We leave for Washington
in the morning.

2184
01:38:15,697 --> 01:38:17,898
We're gonna give them a date.

2185
01:38:23,437 --> 01:38:25,139
(telephones ringing)

2186
01:38:32,045 --> 01:38:33,715
You're a long way
from Chicago, Leo.

2187
01:38:33,748 --> 01:38:35,249
If we don't act now,

2188
01:38:35,282 --> 01:38:36,984
they're going to use
this thing against Japan.

2189
01:38:37,017 --> 01:38:38,986
We booked a meeting with Truman,

2190
01:38:39,019 --> 01:38:40,287
but somebody killed it.

2191
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,189
You're meeting
the Secretary of War.

2192
01:38:42,222 --> 01:38:44,391
Just because we're building it,

2193
01:38:44,425 --> 01:38:46,427
doesn't mean we get to decide
how it's used.

2194
01:38:46,460 --> 01:38:49,229
History will judge us, Robert.

2195
01:38:49,263 --> 01:38:52,567
In Chicago,
we put together a petition.

2196
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,536
I'm not...
I'm not getting into that.

2197
01:38:54,569 --> 01:38:56,303
(clattering)

2198
01:38:56,336 --> 01:38:58,038
(sighs)

2199
01:38:59,607 --> 01:39:01,543
Just tell me your concerns,
and I'll relay them.

2200
01:39:01,576 --> 01:39:02,677
My concerns?

2201
01:39:02,710 --> 01:39:04,679
Germany's defeated.

2202
01:39:04,712 --> 01:39:06,480
Japan's not going
to hold out alone.

2203
01:39:06,514 --> 01:39:08,415
How could you know that?
You got us into this.

2204
01:39:08,449 --> 01:39:10,217
You and Einstein
with your letter to Roosevelt

2205
01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:13,053
-saying we could build a bomb.
-(scoffs) Against Germany.

2206
01:39:13,086 --> 01:39:16,023
That's not how weapons
manufacture works, Szilard.

2207
01:39:16,056 --> 01:39:17,191
SZILARD:
Oppie, you have to help.

2208
01:39:17,224 --> 01:39:18,526
ROBERT:
Fermi's in the meeting.

2209
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,127
-Lawrence is in the meeting.
-They're not you.

2210
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,329
You're the great salesman
of science.

2211
01:39:22,362 --> 01:39:24,965
You can convince
anyone of anything.

2212
01:39:25,667 --> 01:39:27,067
Even yourself.

2213
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:29,069
'Scuse me.

2214
01:39:30,103 --> 01:39:33,373
The firestorm in Tokyo killed
100,000 people.

2215
01:39:33,407 --> 01:39:35,209
Mostly civilians.

2216
01:39:35,242 --> 01:39:37,779
I worry about an America
where we do these things

2217
01:39:37,812 --> 01:39:39,547
and no one protests.

2218
01:39:39,581 --> 01:39:42,617
Pearl Harbor and three years of
brutal conflict in the Pacific

2219
01:39:42,650 --> 01:39:45,185
bought us a lot of latitude
with the American public.

2220
01:39:45,219 --> 01:39:47,254
STIMSON: Enough to unleash
the atomic bomb?

2221
01:39:47,287 --> 01:39:49,156
FERMI:
Uh, the A-bomb might not cause

2222
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:51,091
as much damage
as the Tokyo bombings.

2223
01:39:51,124 --> 01:39:52,493
What are we estimating?

2224
01:39:52,527 --> 01:39:55,362
In a medium-size city, uh,

2225
01:39:55,395 --> 01:39:56,798
20 or 30,000 dead.

2226
01:39:56,831 --> 01:39:58,633
ROBERT:
Yes, but, uh,

2227
01:39:58,666 --> 01:40:01,703
don't underestimate
the psychological impact of a...

2228
01:40:01,736 --> 01:40:03,136
of an atomic explosion.

2229
01:40:03,170 --> 01:40:07,407
A pillar of fire
10,000 feet tall.

2230
01:40:07,441 --> 01:40:10,778
Deadly neutron effects
for a mile, in all directions,

2231
01:40:10,812 --> 01:40:13,715
from one single device.

2232
01:40:13,748 --> 01:40:16,083
Dropped from
a barely noticed B-29,

2233
01:40:16,116 --> 01:40:18,385
the atomic bomb will be

2234
01:40:18,418 --> 01:40:21,255
a terrible revelation
of divine power.

2235
01:40:21,288 --> 01:40:24,559
If that's true,
it would be definitive.

2236
01:40:24,592 --> 01:40:26,661
World War II would be over.

2237
01:40:26,694 --> 01:40:28,395
Our boys would come home.

2238
01:40:28,428 --> 01:40:29,564
Military targets?

2239
01:40:30,698 --> 01:40:33,367
Uh, there aren't any big enough.

2240
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:39,172
Perhaps a vital war plant
with workers housed nearby.

2241
01:40:39,206 --> 01:40:41,543
And we could issue a warning
to reduce civilian casualties.

2242
01:40:41,576 --> 01:40:43,745
They'd send everything
they have up against us,

2243
01:40:43,778 --> 01:40:45,379
and I'd be up in that plane.

2244
01:40:45,412 --> 01:40:48,616
But if we announce it
and it fails to go off,

2245
01:40:48,650 --> 01:40:51,351
we'd scupper any chance
of a Japanese surrender.

2246
01:40:51,385 --> 01:40:54,488
Is there no way to demonstrate
a bomb to Japan

2247
01:40:54,522 --> 01:40:56,223
to provoke surrender?

2248
01:40:56,256 --> 01:40:59,326
We intend to demonstrate it
in the most unambiguous terms.

2249
01:40:59,359 --> 01:41:00,060
Twice.

2250
01:41:00,093 --> 01:41:02,162
Once to show the weapon's power

2251
01:41:02,195 --> 01:41:04,699
and a second to show
that we can keep doing this

2252
01:41:04,732 --> 01:41:06,233
until they surrender.

2253
01:41:06,266 --> 01:41:09,637
We have a list of 12 cities
to choose from...

2254
01:41:09,671 --> 01:41:11,573
Sorry, 11.

2255
01:41:11,606 --> 01:41:13,307
I've taken Kyoto off the list

2256
01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:17,144
due to its cultural significance
to the Japanese people.

2257
01:41:17,177 --> 01:41:19,814
Also, my wife and I
honeymooned there.

2258
01:41:19,847 --> 01:41:21,348
It's a magnificent city.

2259
01:41:24,919 --> 01:41:26,621
Let me make this
simple for you, gentlemen.

2260
01:41:26,654 --> 01:41:29,156
According to my intelligence,
which I cannot share with you,

2261
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:31,626
the Japanese people
will not surrender

2262
01:41:31,659 --> 01:41:33,427
under any circumstances

2263
01:41:33,460 --> 01:41:36,864
short of a successful and total
invasion of the home islands.

2264
01:41:36,898 --> 01:41:39,867
Many lives will be lost,
American and Japanese.

2265
01:41:39,901 --> 01:41:42,135
The use of the atomic bomb
on Japanese cities

2266
01:41:42,169 --> 01:41:44,137
will save lives.

2267
01:41:44,171 --> 01:41:46,473
If we retain moral advantage.

2268
01:41:46,507 --> 01:41:48,643
-How so?
-Well, if we use this weapon

2269
01:41:48,676 --> 01:41:51,613
without informing our allies,
they'll see it as a threat.

2270
01:41:51,646 --> 01:41:52,814
And we'll be in an arms race.

2271
01:41:52,847 --> 01:41:54,916
How open can we be
with the Soviets?

2272
01:41:54,949 --> 01:41:56,517
BUSH:
Secrecy won't stop the Soviets

2273
01:41:56,551 --> 01:41:58,920
from becoming part
of the atomic world.

2274
01:41:58,953 --> 01:42:01,254
We've been told
they have no uranium.

2275
01:42:01,288 --> 01:42:02,489
You've been misinformed.

2276
01:42:02,523 --> 01:42:04,358
A Russian bomb
is a matter of time.

2277
01:42:04,391 --> 01:42:07,795
The program needs to continue
at full pace after the war.

2278
01:42:07,829 --> 01:42:10,430
Uh, Secretary Stimson,
if I may...

2279
01:42:10,464 --> 01:42:14,468
Not all scientists
on the project are in agreement.

2280
01:42:14,501 --> 01:42:17,371
In fact, this might be a moment
to consider other opinions.

2281
01:42:17,404 --> 01:42:19,306
-If you talk a scientist in...
-GROVES: The Manhattan Project

2282
01:42:19,339 --> 01:42:20,708
has been plagued from the start

2283
01:42:20,742 --> 01:42:24,545
by certain scientists
of doubtful discretion

2284
01:42:24,579 --> 01:42:25,647
and uncertain loyalty.

2285
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,915
One of them just tried to meet
with the president.

2286
01:42:27,949 --> 01:42:29,784
Now, we need these men,

2287
01:42:29,817 --> 01:42:31,351
but as soon as it's practical,

2288
01:42:31,385 --> 01:42:33,655
we should sever any such
scientists from the program.

2289
01:42:33,688 --> 01:42:35,255
Wouldn't you agree, Doctor?

2290
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:38,225
MARSHALL: If a Russian bomb
is inevitable,

2291
01:42:38,258 --> 01:42:41,529
perhaps we should invite
their top scientists to Trinity.

2292
01:42:41,562 --> 01:42:43,865
President Truman
has no intention

2293
01:42:43,898 --> 01:42:45,465
of raising expectations

2294
01:42:45,499 --> 01:42:48,301
that Stalin be included
in the atomic project.

2295
01:42:48,335 --> 01:42:49,704
Informing him
of our breakthrough

2296
01:42:49,737 --> 01:42:51,338
and presenting it as a means
to win the war

2297
01:42:51,371 --> 01:42:54,274
need not make
unkeepable promises.

2298
01:42:54,307 --> 01:42:55,843
But the Potsdam
peace conference in July

2299
01:42:55,877 --> 01:42:57,779
will be President Truman's
last chance

2300
01:42:57,812 --> 01:42:59,947
to have that conversation.

2301
01:42:59,981 --> 01:43:01,883
Can you give us
a working bomb by then?

2302
01:43:02,850 --> 01:43:06,587
Absolutely. We will test fire
before the conference.

2303
01:43:07,454 --> 01:43:10,290
(suspenseful music playing)

2304
01:43:11,324 --> 01:43:13,861
FRANK:
<i>Ground zero observation posts</i>

2305
01:43:13,895 --> 01:43:15,362
<i>at 10,000 yards</i>

2306
01:43:15,395 --> 01:43:17,565
north, south and west.

2307
01:43:17,598 --> 01:43:20,902
-Where do we trigger from?
-Uh, south 10,000.

2308
01:43:20,935 --> 01:43:24,271
And base camp
is ten miles south, here.

2309
01:43:24,304 --> 01:43:27,240
And there's a further
observation post

2310
01:43:27,274 --> 01:43:29,443
on-on that hill 20 miles away.

2311
01:43:29,476 --> 01:43:32,446
What's that, Frank?
Trigger lines already went in.

2312
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,983
The Air Force requested
a line of lights for their B-29.

2313
01:43:36,017 --> 01:43:38,452
What B-29?
Our bomb's on the tower.

2314
01:43:38,485 --> 01:43:39,854
FRANK:
They want to use the test

2315
01:43:39,887 --> 01:43:41,723
to confirm a safe
operating distance.

2316
01:43:41,756 --> 01:43:42,990
That's risky.

2317
01:43:43,024 --> 01:43:44,659
Not as risky as dropping one
over Japan

2318
01:43:44,692 --> 01:43:46,460
and hoping that we were right
about the blast radius.

2319
01:43:46,493 --> 01:43:48,596
Don't let them slow us down,
we're firing on the 15th.

2320
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:51,866
-The 15th? That's not...
-GROVES: The 15th.

2321
01:43:51,899 --> 01:43:54,234
The 15th.

2322
01:43:55,335 --> 01:43:57,270
ROBERT: So I'll be here
at South Observation point

2323
01:43:57,304 --> 01:43:59,507
<i>with Frank and Kistiakowsky.</i>

2324
01:43:59,540 --> 01:44:02,043
You'll all be assigned
to Base Camp,

2325
01:44:02,076 --> 01:44:05,278
West Observation
or Far Observation.

2326
01:44:05,312 --> 01:44:08,381
(suspenseful music continues)

2327
01:44:14,922 --> 01:44:16,824
Whoa, whoa.
Careful with the knife.

2328
01:44:16,858 --> 01:44:19,292
There, carefully.

2329
01:44:20,393 --> 01:44:21,929
Are those safe distances?

2330
01:44:21,963 --> 01:44:24,464
They're based
on your calculations.

2331
01:44:24,498 --> 01:44:27,400
Time to stand behind
your science, Hans. Literally.

2332
01:44:29,469 --> 01:44:31,606
(suspenseful music continues)

2333
01:44:50,825 --> 01:44:52,292
KISTIAKOWSKY:
Yeah.

2334
01:44:56,964 --> 01:44:58,800
What 'bout the radiation cloud?

2335
01:44:58,833 --> 01:45:00,067
Without high winds,

2336
01:45:00,101 --> 01:45:01,669
it should settle
within two to three miles.

2337
01:45:01,702 --> 01:45:04,105
Evacuation measures
are in place.

2338
01:45:04,138 --> 01:45:05,940
But we need good weather
for visibility,

2339
01:45:05,973 --> 01:45:07,440
so it has to be fine.

2340
01:45:08,543 --> 01:45:09,811
KISTIAKOWSKY:
Everybody out.

2341
01:45:11,078 --> 01:45:13,380
(suspenseful music continues)

2342
01:45:19,987 --> 01:45:21,122
We go on the night of the 15th.

2343
01:45:21,155 --> 01:45:23,090
It's a hard deadline,

2344
01:45:23,124 --> 01:45:26,426
so if anyone has anything,
speak now.

2345
01:45:27,128 --> 01:45:28,461
Okay, stop, stop.

2346
01:45:28,495 --> 01:45:30,363
Everybody, mattresses.

2347
01:45:30,397 --> 01:45:32,465
Put the mattress underneath.

2348
01:45:49,449 --> 01:45:52,352
Could use
a final implosion test.

2349
01:45:53,054 --> 01:45:55,022
It couldn't hurt.

2350
01:45:55,056 --> 01:45:56,557
Do it.

2351
01:45:57,525 --> 01:45:59,827
Is there anything else
that might stop us?

2352
01:45:59,861 --> 01:46:01,529
(thunder rumbling)

2353
01:46:18,045 --> 01:46:20,681
(suspenseful music continues)

2354
01:46:33,928 --> 01:46:36,831
It's happening, isn't it?

2355
01:46:37,932 --> 01:46:39,700
I'll send a message.

2356
01:46:40,568 --> 01:46:43,204
If it's gone our way,

2357
01:46:43,237 --> 01:46:44,805
take in the sheets.

2358
01:46:48,843 --> 01:46:49,877
Robert?

2359
01:46:52,546 --> 01:46:53,981
Break a leg.

2360
01:46:59,954 --> 01:47:02,123
(suspenseful music continues)

2361
01:47:02,156 --> 01:47:04,592
(explosion)

2362
01:47:07,762 --> 01:47:09,063
(mutters)

2363
01:47:09,096 --> 01:47:10,998
(wind gusting)

2364
01:47:36,223 --> 01:47:38,491
(wind whistling)

2365
01:47:43,764 --> 01:47:44,899
(sighs)

2366
01:47:52,606 --> 01:47:54,775
(thunder rumbling)

2367
01:48:00,548 --> 01:48:03,684
Oppie's taken a very modest
three kilotons.

2368
01:48:03,718 --> 01:48:06,087
-Teller's in with 45.
-RABI: 20.

2369
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,556
Twenty thousand tons of TNT,

2370
01:48:08,589 --> 01:48:09,991
and does anyone want
the side action

2371
01:48:10,024 --> 01:48:12,760
-on atmospheric ignition?
-(all laughing)

2372
01:48:13,728 --> 01:48:16,664
Are you saying
we'll have to delay?

2373
01:48:16,697 --> 01:48:17,865
I'm saying it would be prudent.

2374
01:48:17,898 --> 01:48:19,133
This weather,
has it reached the site?

2375
01:48:19,166 --> 01:48:21,002
(tense music playing)

2376
01:48:21,035 --> 01:48:23,270
(thunder rumbling)

2377
01:48:23,304 --> 01:48:24,939
(telephone ringing)

2378
01:48:24,972 --> 01:48:26,941
Bethe is calling to tell you
the implosion test failed.

2379
01:48:26,974 --> 01:48:28,609
ROBERT:
Hello, Hans.

2380
01:48:28,642 --> 01:48:30,044
Yes, he's here.

2381
01:48:30,878 --> 01:48:32,213
Yes.

2382
01:48:32,246 --> 01:48:34,749
(thunder rumbling)

2383
01:48:34,782 --> 01:48:35,983
-Is he wrong?
-No.

2384
01:48:36,017 --> 01:48:37,918
-No?
-No.

2385
01:48:38,753 --> 01:48:40,321
So we're about to fire a dud?

2386
01:48:40,354 --> 01:48:41,822
-No.
-Explain.

2387
01:48:41,856 --> 01:48:44,625
Well, I can't. I just...
I-I just know.

2388
01:48:44,658 --> 01:48:46,327
I know the implosion lenses
will work.

2389
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:47,762
If we fire these detonators

2390
01:48:47,795 --> 01:48:49,030
and they don't
trigger a reaction,

2391
01:48:49,063 --> 01:48:50,731
two years' worth of plutonium

2392
01:48:50,765 --> 01:48:52,166
will be scattered
across White Sands.

2393
01:48:52,199 --> 01:48:56,103
A month of my salary against
ten bucks says it lights.

2394
01:48:56,137 --> 01:48:58,139
-Jesus.
-(thunder rumbling)

2395
01:48:58,172 --> 01:49:00,674
(tense music continues)

2396
01:49:03,210 --> 01:49:06,347
WEATHERMAN: The wind's picking
up at zero, not the rain.

2397
01:49:06,380 --> 01:49:07,815
Lightning's circling.

2398
01:49:07,848 --> 01:49:09,283
You think it might be time
to tell your men

2399
01:49:09,316 --> 01:49:12,219
to get away from the steel tower
with the atomic bomb?

2400
01:49:12,253 --> 01:49:14,722
(laughter)

2401
01:49:15,356 --> 01:49:17,324
Let's get to South Observation.

2402
01:49:17,358 --> 01:49:18,826
Pull 'em out.

2403
01:49:18,859 --> 01:49:20,261
ROBERT: We can make
our determination there.

2404
01:49:20,294 --> 01:49:22,763
(tense music continues)

2405
01:49:25,666 --> 01:49:27,668
The team hasn't slept
in two nights.

2406
01:49:27,701 --> 01:49:29,703
If we stand down,
make the bomb safe,

2407
01:49:29,737 --> 01:49:31,072
we won't be back here for weeks.

2408
01:49:31,105 --> 01:49:32,773
Then we'll miss Potsdam.

2409
01:49:32,807 --> 01:49:34,708
I gotta get word
to Truman by 7:00.

2410
01:49:34,742 --> 01:49:35,976
Our window's closing.

2411
01:49:36,010 --> 01:49:37,078
What is this doing?

2412
01:49:37,111 --> 01:49:38,612
Raining, blowing, lightning.

2413
01:49:38,646 --> 01:49:40,681
-For how long, damn it?
-It's holdin' strong.

2414
01:49:40,714 --> 01:49:42,016
It'll break before dawn.

2415
01:49:42,049 --> 01:49:43,717
-How could you know that?
-I know this desert.

2416
01:49:43,751 --> 01:49:44,852
Storm cools overnight.

2417
01:49:44,885 --> 01:49:46,687
Just before dawn,
the storm breaks.

2418
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,923
He could be right, but schedule
as late as possible.

2419
01:49:48,956 --> 01:49:50,691
5:30!

2420
01:49:50,724 --> 01:49:51,759
Sign your forecast.

2421
01:49:51,792 --> 01:49:52,860
If you're wrong, I'll hang you.

2422
01:49:52,893 --> 01:49:54,695
Frank, tell them all, 5:30.

2423
01:49:54,728 --> 01:49:56,864
-5:30, 5:30.
-MAN: 5:30.

2424
01:49:59,066 --> 01:50:04,004
Three years,
4,000 people, $2 billion.

2425
01:50:04,038 --> 01:50:06,407
Well, if it doesn't go off...
(sighs)

2426
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:08,042
we're both finished.

2427
01:50:09,110 --> 01:50:10,778
(thunder rumbling)

2428
01:50:10,811 --> 01:50:12,780
I'm betting on three kilotons.

2429
01:50:13,747 --> 01:50:15,182
Anything less,
they won't get what it is.

2430
01:50:15,216 --> 01:50:19,787
What did Fermi mean
by "atmospheric ignition"?

2431
01:50:19,820 --> 01:50:21,288
Well, we had a moment
where it looked like

2432
01:50:21,322 --> 01:50:25,159
the chain reaction from an
atomic device might never stop.

2433
01:50:26,393 --> 01:50:28,429
Setting fire to the atmosphere.

2434
01:50:28,462 --> 01:50:30,431
Why is Fermi
still taking side bets on it?

2435
01:50:30,464 --> 01:50:33,634
Call it gallows humor.

2436
01:50:35,970 --> 01:50:38,772
Wait, are we saying
there's a chance

2437
01:50:38,806 --> 01:50:40,674
that when we push that button,

2438
01:50:40,708 --> 01:50:42,042
we destroy the world?

2439
01:50:42,076 --> 01:50:44,245
Nothing in our research
over three years

2440
01:50:44,278 --> 01:50:45,913
supports that conclusion.

2441
01:50:45,946 --> 01:50:48,916
Except as the most
remote possibility.

2442
01:50:48,949 --> 01:50:50,284
How remote?

2443
01:50:50,317 --> 01:50:51,919
Chances are near zero.

2444
01:50:53,254 --> 01:50:54,655
Near zero?

2445
01:50:55,422 --> 01:50:57,992
What do you want
from theory alone?

2446
01:50:58,025 --> 01:50:59,460
(scoffs)

2447
01:50:59,493 --> 01:51:01,862
Zero would be nice.

2448
01:51:05,166 --> 01:51:06,800
In exactly

2449
01:51:06,834 --> 01:51:10,137
one hour, 58 minutes,

2450
01:51:10,171 --> 01:51:11,705
we'll know.

2451
01:51:17,745 --> 01:51:18,946
It's letting up.

2452
01:51:20,214 --> 01:51:22,683
(tense music continues)

2453
01:51:31,825 --> 01:51:34,195
The arming party's left Zero,
they're heading this way.

2454
01:51:34,228 --> 01:51:35,196
Throwing the switches.

2455
01:51:35,229 --> 01:51:36,330
Turn the cars.

2456
01:51:36,363 --> 01:51:38,832
Ready for emergency evacuation.

2457
01:51:42,803 --> 01:51:45,105
(tense music continues)

2458
01:51:56,518 --> 01:51:57,751
ARMY CAPTAIN:
...welder's glass.

2459
01:51:57,785 --> 01:51:59,353
Everybody take your places.

2460
01:51:59,386 --> 01:52:01,889
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2461
01:52:03,390 --> 01:52:05,259
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2462
01:52:24,845 --> 01:52:28,015
(tense music continues)

2463
01:52:54,908 --> 01:52:56,443
(timer ticking)

2464
01:52:56,477 --> 01:52:57,878
Twenty minutes.

2465
01:53:01,382 --> 01:53:03,217
Twenty minutes.

2466
01:53:14,395 --> 01:53:15,929
That's 20.

2467
01:53:18,932 --> 01:53:20,401
On the leg, please.

2468
01:53:21,935 --> 01:53:24,438
-Feynman.
-No.

2469
01:53:24,471 --> 01:53:26,440
The glass. Stops the U.V.

2470
01:53:26,473 --> 01:53:28,275
And what stops the glass?

2471
01:53:29,276 --> 01:53:32,246
I'm gonna head to base camp.
Best of luck.

2472
01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:34,915
Robert.

2473
01:53:35,517 --> 01:53:37,351
Try not to blow up the world.

2474
01:53:40,921 --> 01:53:43,123
(tense music building)

2475
01:53:49,229 --> 01:53:50,331
Watch that needle.

2476
01:53:50,364 --> 01:53:51,932
If the detonators don't charge

2477
01:53:51,965 --> 01:53:53,901
or the voltage drops
below one volt,

2478
01:53:53,934 --> 01:53:55,936
you hit that button, you abort.

2479
01:53:55,969 --> 01:53:58,272
-Understood?
-Understood.

2480
01:54:03,377 --> 01:54:04,945
(rocket hissing)

2481
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,215
MAN (on speaker):
Two minutes to detonation.

2482
01:54:08,248 --> 01:54:10,217
Everybody down.

2483
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:11,218
Do not turn around

2484
01:54:11,251 --> 01:54:14,321
until you see light
reflected on the hills.

2485
01:54:14,355 --> 01:54:15,489
Then look at the explosion

2486
01:54:15,523 --> 01:54:17,157
only through
your welder's glass.

2487
01:54:17,191 --> 01:54:19,893
MAN (on speaker):
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2488
01:54:21,529 --> 01:54:24,365
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2489
01:54:24,398 --> 01:54:26,500
Is it rubbed in?

2490
01:54:26,534 --> 01:54:27,901
Yeah.

2491
01:54:34,241 --> 01:54:37,344
MAN (on speaker):
Sixty seconds to detonation.

2492
01:54:38,613 --> 01:54:41,382
(intense music playing)

2493
01:54:52,025 --> 01:54:54,261
These things are hard
on your heart.

2494
01:54:54,294 --> 01:54:55,996
MAN (on speaker):
Thirty seconds.

2495
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,300
(charging up)

2496
01:55:01,101 --> 01:55:02,503
Detonators charged.

2497
01:55:03,705 --> 01:55:07,174
(intense music continues)

2498
01:55:12,647 --> 01:55:16,116
MAN (on speaker):
Seventeen, sixteen,

2499
01:55:16,150 --> 01:55:17,317
fifteen,

2500
01:55:17,351 --> 01:55:18,520
fourteen,

2501
01:55:18,553 --> 01:55:20,354
thirteen,

2502
01:55:20,387 --> 01:55:22,557
twelve,

2503
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:24,258
eleven,

2504
01:55:24,291 --> 01:55:26,260
ten,

2505
01:55:26,293 --> 01:55:28,696
nine,

2506
01:55:28,730 --> 01:55:30,698
eight,

2507
01:55:30,732 --> 01:55:33,300
seven,

2508
01:55:33,333 --> 01:55:35,703
-six...
-(intense music building)

2509
01:55:35,737 --> 01:55:37,204
...five...

2510
01:55:39,206 --> 01:55:41,676
...four...

2511
01:55:41,709 --> 01:55:43,645
three...

2512
01:55:43,678 --> 01:55:45,212
two...

2513
01:55:46,514 --> 01:55:47,582
-...one.
-(music stops)

2514
01:55:47,615 --> 01:55:50,350
(silence)

2515
01:55:51,485 --> 01:55:53,987
(breathing heavily)

2516
01:56:01,261 --> 01:56:04,264
(both gasp)

2517
01:56:06,634 --> 01:56:09,069
(exhales)

2518
01:56:09,102 --> 01:56:11,038
(whispers):
Poof.

2519
01:56:13,708 --> 01:56:15,510
(breathing heavily)

2520
01:56:29,156 --> 01:56:31,992
(faint pensive music playing)

2521
01:56:43,671 --> 01:56:45,405
(continues breathing heavily)

2522
01:56:55,148 --> 01:56:59,052
(breathing heavily)

2523
01:57:00,822 --> 01:57:03,490
(faint pensive music continues)

2524
01:57:19,841 --> 01:57:23,210
ROBERT:
<i>"And now I am become Death.</i>

2525
01:57:25,112 --> 01:57:27,281
<i>The destroyer of worlds."</i>

2526
01:57:29,884 --> 01:57:31,318
(explosion)

2527
01:57:31,351 --> 01:57:33,287
(rumbling)

2528
01:57:38,425 --> 01:57:40,127
(silence)

2529
01:57:41,796 --> 01:57:43,765
(explosion)

2530
01:57:43,798 --> 01:57:46,834
(rumbling)

2531
01:57:46,868 --> 01:57:48,302
(silence)

2532
01:57:49,604 --> 01:57:51,739
(distant explosion)

2533
01:57:51,773 --> 01:57:53,473
(distant rumbling)

2534
01:57:54,742 --> 01:57:56,209
(rumbling)

2535
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,649
FRANK:
It worked.

2536
01:58:04,284 --> 01:58:05,620
(rumbling subsides)

2537
01:58:08,856 --> 01:58:10,825
(muffled laughter)

2538
01:58:10,858 --> 01:58:13,493
(all cheering and applauding)

2539
01:58:23,938 --> 01:58:26,373
(mellow music playing)

2540
01:58:31,378 --> 01:58:33,413
-(playing triumphant beat)
-(all cheering)

2541
01:58:35,315 --> 01:58:36,851
(whooping excitedly)

2542
01:58:36,884 --> 01:58:38,886
-You owe me ten dollars!
-Oh!

2543
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,188
(laughs)

2544
01:58:41,221 --> 01:58:42,356
-Come on!
-Hang on.

2545
01:58:42,389 --> 01:58:43,825
I'm good for it, Kisty.

2546
01:58:43,858 --> 01:58:46,159
-(both laughing)
-You are.

2547
01:58:46,193 --> 01:58:48,896
Yes, you are! (laughs)

2548
01:58:48,930 --> 01:58:51,633
(cheering and applauding)

2549
01:58:53,901 --> 01:58:56,269
(mellow music continues)

2550
01:59:12,987 --> 01:59:14,522
ROBERT:
Well done.

2551
01:59:16,223 --> 01:59:18,760
We did it! We did it!

2552
01:59:18,793 --> 01:59:20,695
Well done.

2553
01:59:25,499 --> 01:59:27,334
-Get me Potsdam right away.
-Yes, sir.

2554
01:59:27,367 --> 01:59:29,570
(cheering continues)

2555
01:59:38,813 --> 01:59:40,581
Get a message to Kitty.

2556
01:59:40,615 --> 01:59:41,314
We can't say anything.

2557
01:59:41,348 --> 01:59:43,283
Tell her to take in the sheets.

2558
01:59:51,291 --> 01:59:52,827
We did it, everyone!

2559
01:59:52,860 --> 01:59:55,462
-(telephone ringing)
-(baby crying)

2560
01:59:57,699 --> 01:59:59,499
(shushes) Hello?

2561
01:59:59,534 --> 02:00:01,969
-CHARLOTTE: Hi, Kitty?
-What, what? Charlotte...

2562
02:00:02,003 --> 02:00:03,370
Charlotte, go ahead, go ahead.

2563
02:00:03,403 --> 02:00:04,772
Oh, um, well, I don't know,

2564
02:00:04,806 --> 02:00:08,009
he just said to tell you
to "bring in the sheets."

2565
02:00:08,042 --> 02:00:10,678
(baby continues crying)

2566
02:00:10,712 --> 02:00:12,279
Kitty?

2567
02:00:13,380 --> 02:00:15,817
Kitty?
Kitty, are you still there?

2568
02:00:22,724 --> 02:00:24,859
ROBERT: <i>If they detonate it</i>
<i>too high in the air,</i>

2569
02:00:24,892 --> 02:00:26,259
the blast won't be as powerful.

2570
02:00:26,293 --> 02:00:28,328
With respect, Dr. Oppenheimer,

2571
02:00:28,361 --> 02:00:30,397
we'll take it from here.

2572
02:00:31,766 --> 02:00:34,769
(disquieting music playing)

2573
02:00:40,641 --> 02:00:43,544
Did Truman brief Stalin
at Potsdam?

2574
02:00:43,578 --> 02:00:46,313
A brief would be
an overstatement.

2575
02:00:46,346 --> 02:00:50,417
He referred
to a powerful new weapon.

2576
02:00:50,450 --> 02:00:55,523
Stalin hoped we'd use it
against Japan.

2577
02:00:56,758 --> 02:00:58,492
That's it?

2578
02:00:58,526 --> 02:01:01,763
Robert, we've given them an ace,
it's for them to play the hand.

2579
02:01:03,898 --> 02:01:06,000
You're aiming for the 6th?

2580
02:01:06,033 --> 02:01:08,335
It's up to the CO
in the Pacific.

2581
02:01:09,670 --> 02:01:11,739
Shall I come with you
to Washington?

2582
02:01:13,340 --> 02:01:14,575
What for?

2583
02:01:16,844 --> 02:01:18,445
Well, you'll keep me informed.

2584
02:01:19,781 --> 02:01:21,414
Of course.

2585
02:01:22,984 --> 02:01:24,585
As best I can.

2586
02:01:24,619 --> 02:01:26,386
(engine revs)

2587
02:01:42,003 --> 02:01:44,872
Would the Japanese surrender
if they knew what was coming?

2588
02:01:46,107 --> 02:01:47,708
I don't know.

2589
02:01:50,111 --> 02:01:52,113
TELLER: Have you seen
Szilard's petition?

2590
02:01:52,146 --> 02:01:54,882
What the hell does Szilard
know about the Japanese?

2591
02:01:54,916 --> 02:01:56,117
You're not signing it, are you?

2592
02:01:56,150 --> 02:01:59,554
Many people have.
A lot of people have.

2593
02:01:59,587 --> 02:02:00,721
Edward.

2594
02:02:01,989 --> 02:02:03,658
The fact that we built this bomb

2595
02:02:03,691 --> 02:02:06,694
does not give us any more...
any more right or responsibility

2596
02:02:06,727 --> 02:02:08,830
to decide how it's used
than anyone else.

2597
02:02:08,863 --> 02:02:10,865
But we're the only people
who know about it.

2598
02:02:10,898 --> 02:02:14,467
I've told Stimson the various
opinions of the community.

2599
02:02:14,501 --> 02:02:15,903
But what's your opinion?

2600
02:02:17,138 --> 02:02:18,673
Once it's used...

2601
02:02:19,774 --> 02:02:23,476
...nuclear war,
perhaps all war...

2602
02:02:25,079 --> 02:02:26,514
...becomes unthinkable.

2603
02:02:26,547 --> 02:02:29,550
Until somebody
builds a bigger bomb.

2604
02:02:50,137 --> 02:02:51,873
I thought they would call.

2605
02:02:51,906 --> 02:02:53,473
It's only the 5th.

2606
02:02:55,643 --> 02:02:57,645
In Japan, it's the 6th.

2607
02:03:10,791 --> 02:03:11,792
Charlotte.

2608
02:03:14,128 --> 02:03:15,830
Try Groves.

2609
02:03:16,831 --> 02:03:17,899
<i>Anything?</i>

2610
02:03:20,201 --> 02:03:21,569
Charlotte?

2611
02:03:21,602 --> 02:03:22,904
CHARLOTTE:
Truman's on the radio.

2612
02:03:23,838 --> 02:03:26,741
TRUMAN (on radio):
Sixteen hours ago,

2613
02:03:26,774 --> 02:03:32,680
an American airplane dropped
one bomb on Hiroshima...

2614
02:03:33,714 --> 02:03:36,851
...and destroyed its usefulness
to the enemy.

2615
02:03:36,884 --> 02:03:38,786
(elated laughter outside)

2616
02:03:38,819 --> 02:03:44,692
The bomb had more power
than 20,000 tons of TNT.

2617
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:48,629
It is an atomic bomb.

2618
02:03:48,663 --> 02:03:51,799
-(excited chatter)
-(car horns honking)

2619
02:03:51,832 --> 02:03:53,200
It is a harnessing

2620
02:03:53,234 --> 02:03:56,003
of the basic powers
of the universe.

2621
02:03:58,039 --> 02:03:59,674
CHARLOTTE:
<i>Groves on one.</i>

2622
02:03:59,707 --> 02:04:02,743
TRUMAN: We are now prepared
to destroy more rapidly

2623
02:04:02,777 --> 02:04:05,079
and completely the Japanese...

2624
02:04:05,112 --> 02:04:06,781
ROBERT:
(clears throat) General?

2625
02:04:06,814 --> 02:04:09,850
GROVES: I'm very proud of you
and all of your people.

2626
02:04:09,884 --> 02:04:11,218
It went all right?

2627
02:04:11,252 --> 02:04:14,221
Apparently, it went
with a tremendous bang.

2628
02:04:14,255 --> 02:04:15,890
ROBERT:
Well,

2629
02:04:15,923 --> 02:04:18,859
everyone here is feeling
reasonably good about it.

2630
02:04:20,294 --> 02:04:21,929
It's been a long road.

2631
02:04:21,963 --> 02:04:24,765
GROVES: I think one of
the wisest things I ever did

2632
02:04:24,799 --> 02:04:27,835
was when I selected
the director of Los Alamos.

2633
02:04:27,868 --> 02:04:30,171
-(cheering)
-(car horns honking)

2634
02:04:30,204 --> 02:04:32,540
TRUMAN:
<i>We have spent</i>

2635
02:04:32,573 --> 02:04:34,575
<i>more than $2 billion</i>

2636
02:04:34,608 --> 02:04:38,846
<i>on the greatest</i>
<i>scientific gamble in history,</i>

2637
02:04:38,879 --> 02:04:41,716
<i>and we have won.</i>

2638
02:04:41,749 --> 02:04:44,518
(cheering)

2639
02:04:45,252 --> 02:04:47,955
CROWD (chanting):
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2640
02:04:47,989 --> 02:04:49,991
Oppie! Oppie!

2641
02:04:50,024 --> 02:04:53,227
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2642
02:04:53,260 --> 02:04:55,096
Oppie! Oppie!

2643
02:04:55,129 --> 02:04:57,898
Opie! Opie! Opie! Opie!

2644
02:04:57,932 --> 02:05:01,268
-Oppy! Opie! Opie! Opie!
-(applause)

2645
02:05:01,302 --> 02:05:05,906
Opie! Opie! Opie!
Opie! Opie! Opie!

2646
02:05:05,940 --> 02:05:07,274
Opie! Opie!

2647
02:05:07,308 --> 02:05:09,877
Opie! Opie! Opie! Opie!

2648
02:05:09,910 --> 02:05:12,780
(rhythmic stomping)

2649
02:05:13,647 --> 02:05:16,650
(stomping intensifying)

2650
02:05:29,864 --> 02:05:32,700
-(stumping subsidies)
-(cheering continues)

2651
02:06:06,634 --> 02:06:08,936
(breathing heavily)

2652
02:06:08,969 --> 02:06:10,071
The world...

2653
02:06:12,073 --> 02:06:13,207
...will remember this day.

2654
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,609
(cheering and applauding)

2655
02:06:24,251 --> 02:06:26,921
(muffled distant rumbling)

2656
02:06:32,126 --> 02:06:33,861
It's too soon to...

2657
02:06:34,728 --> 02:06:36,397
It's too soon to determine

2658
02:06:36,430 --> 02:06:38,799
what the results
or the bombing are.

2659
02:06:41,735 --> 02:06:43,337
But I'll bet the Japanese
didn't like it.

2660
02:06:43,370 --> 02:06:45,906
(cheering and applauding)

2661
02:06:52,146 --> 02:06:53,747
-(woman screams)
-(cheering sound muted)

2662
02:06:53,781 --> 02:06:55,316
(distant rumbling continues)

2663
02:06:55,349 --> 02:06:57,985
(Robert breathing heavily)

2664
02:07:04,225 --> 02:07:05,759
I'm so proud.

2665
02:07:06,894 --> 02:07:09,029
So proud of what
you have accomplished.

2666
02:07:10,397 --> 02:07:12,666
(continues breathing heavily)

2667
02:07:15,336 --> 02:07:19,173
I just wish we had it in time
to use against the Germans.

2668
02:07:24,712 --> 02:07:27,114
(continues breathing heavily)

2669
02:07:27,148 --> 02:07:29,216
(wind howling)

2670
02:07:41,795 --> 02:07:43,030
(jarring musical sting)

2671
02:07:43,063 --> 02:07:45,900
-(cheering sound returns)
-(hearty laughter)

2672
02:07:57,111 --> 02:07:58,979
(somber music playing)

2673
02:08:07,354 --> 02:08:09,723
(sobbing)

2674
02:08:29,511 --> 02:08:32,514
(man weeping)

2675
02:08:32,547 --> 02:08:34,782
(laughter)

2676
02:08:35,449 --> 02:08:37,985
(somber music continues)

2677
02:09:00,908 --> 02:09:03,010
(somber music fading out)

2678
02:09:09,016 --> 02:09:10,884
WOMAN:
Dr. Oppenheimer?

2679
02:09:11,485 --> 02:09:13,787
Dr. Oppenheimer? (chuckles)

2680
02:09:13,821 --> 02:09:15,489
-Nice picture.
-Oh.

2681
02:09:15,523 --> 02:09:17,858
President Truman
will see you now.

2682
02:09:20,562 --> 02:09:22,196
(clears throat)

2683
02:09:31,573 --> 02:09:34,408
Dr. Oppenheimer. It's an honor.

2684
02:09:34,441 --> 02:09:36,377
-Mr. President.
-TRUMAN: Please.

2685
02:09:36,410 --> 02:09:38,212
Thank you.

2686
02:09:38,245 --> 02:09:39,780
Secretary Byrnes.

2687
02:09:40,981 --> 02:09:42,983
How's it feel to be

2688
02:09:43,017 --> 02:09:45,052
the most famous man
in the world?

2689
02:09:46,053 --> 02:09:49,123
You helped save a lot
of American lives.

2690
02:09:49,156 --> 02:09:51,526
What we did
at Hiroshima was a...

2691
02:09:51,559 --> 02:09:53,494
And Nagasaki.

2692
02:09:53,528 --> 02:09:55,530
Well, obviously.

2693
02:09:55,563 --> 02:09:59,500
Your invention let us
bring our boys home.

2694
02:09:59,534 --> 02:10:02,903
Well, it was hardly
my invention.

2695
02:10:02,936 --> 02:10:05,205
It was you on the cover of <i>Time.</i>

2696
02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:08,042
(both chuckling)

2697
02:10:08,075 --> 02:10:09,611
Jim tells me you're concerned

2698
02:10:09,644 --> 02:10:11,412
about an arms race
with the Soviets.

2699
02:10:11,445 --> 02:10:13,814
Uh, yes, uh...

2700
02:10:14,516 --> 02:10:16,016
Well, um,

2701
02:10:16,050 --> 02:10:21,155
it's that, uh, now is
our chance to secure

2702
02:10:21,188 --> 02:10:24,058
international cooperation on
(clears throat) atomic energy,

2703
02:10:24,091 --> 02:10:27,127
and... and I'm concerned...

2704
02:10:27,161 --> 02:10:29,396
Do you know when the Soviets
are gonna have the bomb?

2705
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:31,365
I don't think I could give a...

2706
02:10:31,398 --> 02:10:32,801
Never.

2707
02:10:33,434 --> 02:10:35,069
Never.

2708
02:10:35,102 --> 02:10:38,272
Mr. President, the-the Russians
have good physicists

2709
02:10:38,305 --> 02:10:39,940
and-and...
and abundant resources.

2710
02:10:39,973 --> 02:10:42,076
-Abundant? (laughs)
-Yes.

2711
02:10:42,109 --> 02:10:45,379
-I don't think so.
-(chuckles)

2712
02:10:45,412 --> 02:10:48,949
Well, they'll-they'll put
everything they have and...

2713
02:10:52,219 --> 02:10:56,090
I hear you're leaving
Los Alamos.

2714
02:10:57,358 --> 02:10:58,459
What should we do with it?

2715
02:10:58,492 --> 02:11:00,994
Give it back to the Indians.

2716
02:11:08,402 --> 02:11:11,639
Um... Dr. Oppenheimer, (sighs)

2717
02:11:11,673 --> 02:11:14,007
if what you say about
the Soviets is true,

2718
02:11:14,041 --> 02:11:17,444
we have to build up Los Alamos,

2719
02:11:17,478 --> 02:11:19,380
not shut it down.

2720
02:11:22,617 --> 02:11:24,418
Uh, Mr. President...

2721
02:11:25,486 --> 02:11:26,987
Um...

2722
02:11:29,657 --> 02:11:33,327
I feel that I have blood
on my hands.

2723
02:11:34,428 --> 02:11:37,431
(disquieting music playing)

2724
02:11:53,113 --> 02:11:58,419
You think anyone
in Hiroshima or Nagasaki

2725
02:11:58,452 --> 02:12:01,488
gives a shit who built the bomb?

2726
02:12:04,659 --> 02:12:07,027
They care who dropped it.

2727
02:12:07,729 --> 02:12:09,997
I did.

2728
02:12:11,231 --> 02:12:14,201
Hiroshima isn't about you.

2729
02:12:17,204 --> 02:12:18,540
(sniffs)

2730
02:12:20,340 --> 02:12:22,476
Dr. Oppenheimer.

2731
02:12:25,747 --> 02:12:27,214
(Truman clears throat)

2732
02:12:33,420 --> 02:12:36,223
TRUMAN: Don't let that crybaby
back in here.

2733
02:12:41,328 --> 02:12:44,364
STRAUSS: <i>Robert saw that</i>
<i>hand-wringing got him nowhere.</i>

2734
02:12:44,398 --> 02:12:47,735
<i>By the time I'd met him,</i>
<i>he'd fully embraced</i>

2735
02:12:47,769 --> 02:12:50,337
<i>his "father of the bomb"</i>
<i>reputation.</i>

2736
02:12:50,370 --> 02:12:52,774
Used his profile
to influence policy.

2737
02:12:52,807 --> 02:12:55,342
(clamoring)

2738
02:13:02,249 --> 02:13:03,618
ROBB: <i>Doctor, in the years</i>
<i>following the war,</i>

2739
02:13:03,651 --> 02:13:05,787
would you say that
you exerted a great influence

2740
02:13:05,820 --> 02:13:07,622
on the atomic policies
of the USA?

2741
02:13:07,655 --> 02:13:10,357
ROBERT: <i>I think great</i>
<i>would be an overstatement.</i>

2742
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:12,359
ROBB: Really? If we look
at the issue of isotopes,

2743
02:13:12,392 --> 02:13:14,094
were you not
personally responsible

2744
02:13:14,127 --> 02:13:16,163
for destroying all opposition
to their export?

2745
02:13:16,196 --> 02:13:19,066
-Could use a-a bottle of beer...
-(laughter)

2746
02:13:19,099 --> 02:13:20,768
...when making atomic weapons.
In fact, you do.

2747
02:13:20,802 --> 02:13:23,270
I was the spokesman,
but the-the opinion

2748
02:13:23,303 --> 02:13:25,105
among scientists was unanimous.

2749
02:13:25,138 --> 02:13:26,808
All along with McCarthy
on the rise,

2750
02:13:26,841 --> 02:13:28,242
he knew he was vulnerable.

2751
02:13:28,275 --> 02:13:29,644
His brother was blacklisted

2752
02:13:29,677 --> 02:13:32,580
by every university
in the country.

2753
02:13:33,681 --> 02:13:36,518
Lomanitz wound up working
the railroad, laying track.

2754
02:13:39,119 --> 02:13:40,555
And Chevalier went into exile.

2755
02:13:43,691 --> 02:13:45,125
But none of that

2756
02:13:45,158 --> 02:13:47,127
stopped Robert
from pushing the GAC

2757
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:50,030
to recommend arms control
instead of the H-bomb.

2758
02:13:51,833 --> 02:13:53,300
He was devastated

2759
02:13:53,333 --> 02:13:55,402
when Truman rejected
their recommendation.

2760
02:13:57,137 --> 02:13:59,674
I miss Richard
more than I can bear.

2761
02:13:59,707 --> 02:14:01,475
I know, Ruth, I know.

2762
02:14:01,509 --> 02:14:04,612
Part of me's glad he didn't live
to see where this is all going.

2763
02:14:07,381 --> 02:14:08,816
ROBERT:
Here comes the birthday boy.

2764
02:14:08,850 --> 02:14:11,451
-To gloat.
-RUTH: Have fun.

2765
02:14:12,452 --> 02:14:14,822
Robert, uh, my son and his
fiancée are desperate to meet

2766
02:14:14,856 --> 02:14:16,824
the father of the atomic bomb,
and so...

2767
02:14:16,858 --> 02:14:19,661
Well. Good day.

2768
02:14:25,733 --> 02:14:27,835
Is this a bad time?

2769
02:14:27,869 --> 02:14:29,369
What do you think, Lewis?

2770
02:14:29,403 --> 02:14:31,471
Well, I think it must have
been a blow for you.

2771
02:14:31,505 --> 02:14:33,641
For the world.

2772
02:14:33,675 --> 02:14:35,309
The world?

2773
02:14:35,342 --> 02:14:39,313
What does Fuchs mean
to the rest of the world?

2774
02:14:39,346 --> 02:14:40,748
Fuchs?

2775
02:14:40,782 --> 02:14:42,382
Klaus Fuchs?

2776
02:14:43,818 --> 02:14:46,219
Oh, dear. You haven't heard.

2777
02:14:47,889 --> 02:14:49,356
(sighs)

2778
02:14:49,389 --> 02:14:51,258
Klaus Fuchs, the British
scientist that you put

2779
02:14:51,291 --> 02:14:54,328
onto the implosion team
at Los Alamos,

2780
02:14:54,361 --> 02:14:56,496
<i>turns out he was...</i>

2781
02:14:56,531 --> 02:14:59,801
he was spying for the Soviets
the whole time.

2782
02:14:59,834 --> 02:15:01,368
I'm sorry.

2783
02:15:04,371 --> 02:15:06,506
(brooding music playing)

2784
02:15:06,541 --> 02:15:09,443
<i>After the truth</i>
<i>about Fuchs came out,</i>

2785
02:15:09,476 --> 02:15:11,579
the FBI stepped up
surveillance on him.

2786
02:15:11,613 --> 02:15:15,482
He knew his phone was tapped,
he was followed everywhere...

2787
02:15:16,851 --> 02:15:18,285
...his trash picked through.

2788
02:15:22,289 --> 02:15:23,758
But never stopped
speaking his mind.

2789
02:15:23,791 --> 02:15:26,460
A man of conviction.

2790
02:15:26,493 --> 02:15:29,329
And maybe he thought fame
could actually protect him.

2791
02:15:30,832 --> 02:15:34,267
When Eisenhower took office,
he saw one more chance.

2792
02:15:35,670 --> 02:15:36,704
He took it.

2793
02:15:36,738 --> 02:15:39,206
America and Russia

2794
02:15:39,239 --> 02:15:43,511
may be likened
to two scorpions in a bottle,

2795
02:15:43,544 --> 02:15:46,914
each capable
of killing the other

2796
02:15:46,948 --> 02:15:49,651
but only at the risk
of his own life.

2797
02:15:49,684 --> 02:15:52,452
Now, there are various aspects
of this policy...

2798
02:15:52,486 --> 02:15:54,488
STRAUSS:
<i>Lot of scientists blame me,</i>

2799
02:15:54,522 --> 02:15:57,659
<i>but how was I supposed</i>
<i>to protect him?</i>

2800
02:15:57,692 --> 02:15:59,661
...too secret for discussion,

2801
02:15:59,694 --> 02:16:01,696
candor is the only remedy.

2802
02:16:01,729 --> 02:16:03,263
Officials in Washington

2803
02:16:03,296 --> 02:16:04,799
need to start leveling
with the American people.

2804
02:16:04,832 --> 02:16:06,466
(people murmuring)

2805
02:16:06,500 --> 02:16:09,336
That was the last straw
for Robert's enemies.

2806
02:16:09,369 --> 02:16:11,405
So he had to lose
his security clearance.

2807
02:16:11,438 --> 02:16:14,207
-And with it, his credibility.
-(knocking)

2808
02:16:14,241 --> 02:16:16,644
But how could they do it?

2809
02:16:16,678 --> 02:16:17,945
He was a war hero.

2810
02:16:17,979 --> 02:16:19,681
He'd already told everyone
about his past.

2811
02:16:19,714 --> 02:16:21,683
Borden dredged it all up.

2812
02:16:21,716 --> 02:16:24,952
How could Borden get access
to Oppenheimer's FBI file?

2813
02:16:24,986 --> 02:16:26,554
Could it have been Nichols?

2814
02:16:26,587 --> 02:16:28,890
No, I can't imagine
he'd do that.

2815
02:16:28,923 --> 02:16:30,958
But whoever did
unleashed a firestorm

2816
02:16:30,992 --> 02:16:32,994
that burned a path
from the White House

2817
02:16:33,027 --> 02:16:35,697
back to my desk at the AEC.

2818
02:16:35,730 --> 02:16:37,565
You see them in there, right?

2819
02:16:37,598 --> 02:16:41,468
I've been working
my whole life to get here.

2820
02:16:41,501 --> 02:16:43,538
Cabinet of
the United States of America.

2821
02:16:43,571 --> 02:16:45,505
Now, in front
of the entire country,

2822
02:16:45,540 --> 02:16:47,608
they're gonna put me
back in my place.

2823
02:16:49,043 --> 02:16:51,713
A lowly shoe salesman.

2824
02:16:51,746 --> 02:16:53,581
Lewis, we can win this thing.

2825
02:16:53,614 --> 02:16:55,683
I-I think we can
get the Senate to grasp

2826
02:16:55,717 --> 02:16:58,519
that you did your duty,
painful though it was.

2827
02:16:58,553 --> 02:17:00,320
Now, will Hill's testimony
back us up?

2828
02:17:00,353 --> 02:17:02,322
-COUNSEL: Hill will be fine.
-I don't really know him,

2829
02:17:02,355 --> 02:17:04,525
but, uh, he was one
of Szilard's boys in Chicago,

2830
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:06,594
and they never forgave Robert
for not supporting

2831
02:17:06,627 --> 02:17:09,030
their petition
against bombing Japan.

2832
02:17:09,063 --> 02:17:14,267
This was taken 31 days
after the bombing.

2833
02:17:14,301 --> 02:17:17,038
Virtually everyone
in the street,

2834
02:17:17,071 --> 02:17:19,306
for nearly a mile around,

2835
02:17:19,339 --> 02:17:22,543
was instantly
and seriously burned.

2836
02:17:22,577 --> 02:17:23,745
(people gasping)

2837
02:17:23,778 --> 02:17:28,315
The, uh, Japanese spoke of
people who wore striped clothing

2838
02:17:28,348 --> 02:17:31,318
upon whom the skin
was burned in stripes.

2839
02:17:32,385 --> 02:17:34,756
There were many
who thought themselves lucky,

2840
02:17:34,789 --> 02:17:37,491
who climbed out of the ruins
of their homes

2841
02:17:37,525 --> 02:17:39,392
only slightly injured.

2842
02:17:40,528 --> 02:17:42,295
But they died anyway.

2843
02:17:42,964 --> 02:17:46,067
They died days or weeks later

2844
02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:49,436
from the radium-like rays
emitted in great numbers

2845
02:17:49,469 --> 02:17:51,371
at the moment of the explosion.

2846
02:17:52,573 --> 02:17:54,642
Did you read this crap
in the papers?

2847
02:17:54,675 --> 02:17:57,477
A British physicist is saying
the atomic bombings

2848
02:17:57,512 --> 02:17:59,680
were not the last act
of World War II

2849
02:17:59,714 --> 02:18:02,850
but the first act
of this cold war with Russia.

2850
02:18:02,884 --> 02:18:04,351
Which physicist?

2851
02:18:04,384 --> 02:18:05,787
I think you knew him.

2852
02:18:05,820 --> 02:18:07,420
Patrick Blackett.

2853
02:18:08,656 --> 02:18:09,857
(scoffs)

2854
02:18:09,891 --> 02:18:11,458
ROBERT:
He may not be wrong.

2855
02:18:11,491 --> 02:18:12,827
Stimson is now telling me

2856
02:18:12,860 --> 02:18:16,097
we bombed an enemy
that was essentially defeated.

2857
02:18:16,130 --> 02:18:19,667
TELLER: Robert,
you've all the influence now.

2858
02:18:19,700 --> 02:18:21,401
Please.

2859
02:18:21,434 --> 02:18:23,538
Urge them to continue
my research on the Super.

2860
02:18:23,571 --> 02:18:24,939
I neither can nor will, Edward.

2861
02:18:24,972 --> 02:18:27,074
Why not?

2862
02:18:27,108 --> 02:18:28,810
It's not the right use
of our resources.

2863
02:18:28,843 --> 02:18:30,945
Is that what you really believe?

2864
02:18:30,978 --> 02:18:33,346
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

2865
02:18:33,380 --> 02:18:35,783
Sphinx-like guru of the atom.

2866
02:18:37,084 --> 02:18:38,853
Nobody knows what you believe.

2867
02:18:39,954 --> 02:18:41,823
Do you? Hmm?

2868
02:18:41,856 --> 02:18:44,559
GROVES: <i>One final time,</i>
<i>our program director,</i>

2869
02:18:44,592 --> 02:18:46,561
<i>Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.</i>

2870
02:18:46,594 --> 02:18:47,728
(applause)

2871
02:18:47,762 --> 02:18:49,530
ROBERT:
<i>I hope that in years to come</i>

2872
02:18:49,564 --> 02:18:53,568
you will look back
on your work here with pride.

2873
02:18:53,601 --> 02:18:55,970
But today, that pride
must be tempered

2874
02:18:56,003 --> 02:18:58,338
with a profound concern.

2875
02:18:59,607 --> 02:19:01,408
If atomic weapons
are to be added

2876
02:19:01,441 --> 02:19:03,845
to the arsenals
of a warring world,

2877
02:19:03,878 --> 02:19:07,447
then the day will come
when people will curse

2878
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:08,883
the name of Los Alamos.

2879
02:19:12,887 --> 02:19:14,989
Uh, sorry, Admiral.

2880
02:19:15,022 --> 02:19:17,024
Stopped off to get this.

2881
02:19:17,058 --> 02:19:19,861
It seems pretty favorable.

2882
02:19:19,894 --> 02:19:20,995
COUNSEL:
There's Oppenheimer.

2883
02:19:21,028 --> 02:19:22,597
What's the caption?

2884
02:19:22,630 --> 02:19:25,465
Uh, "J. Robert Oppenheimer,
Strauss fought..."

2885
02:19:25,498 --> 02:19:27,001
(soft music plays)

2886
02:19:27,034 --> 02:19:28,603
"...and the US won."

2887
02:19:29,436 --> 02:19:30,705
That'll work.

2888
02:19:30,738 --> 02:19:32,974
Those were your words
from the other day.

2889
02:19:33,007 --> 02:19:34,407
We needed to pivot.

2890
02:19:34,441 --> 02:19:35,710
But how would you know

2891
02:19:35,743 --> 02:19:37,545
what <i>Time</i> magazine's
gonna write?

2892
02:19:37,578 --> 02:19:39,814
Henry Luce is a friend.

2893
02:19:45,953 --> 02:19:49,456
You sat here and let me
tell you how it's done,

2894
02:19:49,489 --> 02:19:52,159
but you've been
far ahead all along.

2895
02:19:52,193 --> 02:19:55,162
Survival in Washington

2896
02:19:55,196 --> 02:19:57,531
is about knowing
how to get things done.

2897
02:19:58,165 --> 02:19:59,567
SENATE AIDE:
Right.

2898
02:20:01,168 --> 02:20:02,904
What was it you said
about Borden?

2899
02:20:02,937 --> 02:20:05,940
"Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?"

2900
02:20:05,973 --> 02:20:07,742
(sighs)

2901
02:20:07,775 --> 02:20:10,778
I'm beginning to think Borden
was holding the knife for you.

2902
02:20:12,847 --> 02:20:15,082
It's gonna come down
to how much influence

2903
02:20:15,116 --> 02:20:17,184
Borden's been able
to exert on Teller.

2904
02:20:17,218 --> 02:20:19,654
-(Kitty laughing)
-Did I say something funny?

2905
02:20:19,687 --> 02:20:21,055
Just "Borden, Borden, Borden"

2906
02:20:21,088 --> 02:20:24,859
when we all know
that it's Strauss.

2907
02:20:24,892 --> 02:20:26,861
Lewis brought me
to Princeton, Kitty.

2908
02:20:26,894 --> 02:20:29,597
And then you humiliated him
in front of Congress.

2909
02:20:29,630 --> 02:20:32,465
But more useful than a sandwich.

2910
02:20:32,499 --> 02:20:34,635
(laughter)

2911
02:20:35,636 --> 02:20:36,804
-How'd I do?
-MAN: I'll call recess,

2912
02:20:36,837 --> 02:20:37,939
ten minutes.

2913
02:20:37,972 --> 02:20:40,207
Maybe a little too well, Robert.

2914
02:20:40,241 --> 02:20:41,474
That was six years ago.

2915
02:20:41,509 --> 02:20:43,210
You know, the truly vindictive,

2916
02:20:43,244 --> 02:20:44,845
patient as saints.

2917
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,682
Strauss has been perfectly
clear that he is neutral.

2918
02:20:47,715 --> 02:20:51,218
-(glass shatters)
-Wake up. It is Strauss.

2919
02:20:51,252 --> 02:20:54,188
It's always been Strauss,
and you know it.

2920
02:20:54,221 --> 02:20:55,856
Why won't you fight him?

2921
02:20:56,891 --> 02:20:58,092
Christ's sake.

2922
02:20:58,125 --> 02:20:59,160
(door slams)

2923
02:20:59,193 --> 02:21:01,862
It wasn't Nichols or Hoover

2924
02:21:01,896 --> 02:21:03,564
or one of Truman's guys.
It was you.

2925
02:21:03,597 --> 02:21:05,566
You gave the file to Borden.

2926
02:21:05,599 --> 02:21:07,234
You set him on Oppenheimer.

2927
02:21:07,268 --> 02:21:09,704
-You convinced him to...
-(loudly): Borden...

2928
02:21:09,737 --> 02:21:11,639
(in normal tone):
didn't take any convincing.

2929
02:21:11,672 --> 02:21:13,774
NICHOLS: Take your time,
use the entire file.

2930
02:21:13,808 --> 02:21:16,711
Write up your conclusion,
send them to the FBI.

2931
02:21:16,744 --> 02:21:18,980
The material
is obviously extensive,

2932
02:21:19,013 --> 02:21:21,682
but there's nothing new here.

2933
02:21:21,716 --> 02:21:23,250
STRAUSS:
Your conclusions will be.

2934
02:21:23,284 --> 02:21:25,586
And they'll have to be answered.

2935
02:21:25,619 --> 02:21:27,088
Hoover passes them to McCarthy?

2936
02:21:27,121 --> 02:21:30,725
Oppenheimer's too slippery
for that self-promoting clown.

2937
02:21:30,758 --> 02:21:33,627
I've talked it over with Hoover,
he'll hold McCarthy at bay

2938
02:21:33,661 --> 02:21:35,262
while you do this with the AEC.

2939
02:21:35,296 --> 02:21:37,131
-A trial.
-No.

2940
02:21:37,164 --> 02:21:40,935
No trial. You can't
give Oppenheimer a platform.

2941
02:21:40,968 --> 02:21:42,737
You can't martyr him.

2942
02:21:42,770 --> 02:21:45,940
We need a systematic destruction
of Oppenheimer's credibility

2943
02:21:45,973 --> 02:21:49,543
so he can never again speak
on matters of national security.

2944
02:21:49,577 --> 02:21:51,645
Then what?

2945
02:21:52,847 --> 02:21:56,217
A shabby little room,
far from the limelight.

2946
02:21:56,250 --> 02:21:58,019
(speaking indistinctly)

2947
02:22:02,656 --> 02:22:03,924
STRAUSS:
<i>A simple bureaucratic procedure.</i>

2948
02:22:03,958 --> 02:22:06,594
His Q clearance
is up for renewal.

2949
02:22:06,627 --> 02:22:09,597
You send your accusations
to the FBI.

2950
02:22:11,232 --> 02:22:14,835
Hoover sends them to the AEC,
you're forced to act.

2951
02:22:15,669 --> 02:22:16,971
You write up an indictment

2952
02:22:17,004 --> 02:22:18,639
<i>and tell Oppenheimer</i>

2953
02:22:18,672 --> 02:22:21,342
<i>his security clearance</i>
<i>is not being renewed.</i>

2954
02:22:21,375 --> 02:22:22,910
<i>But offer him</i>
<i>the chance to appeal.</i>

2955
02:22:22,943 --> 02:22:25,279
As you can see, Robert,
it's not yet signed.

2956
02:22:25,312 --> 02:22:26,814
ROBERT:
May I keep this?

2957
02:22:26,847 --> 02:22:27,782
No.

2958
02:22:27,815 --> 02:22:30,051
If you do decide to appeal,

2959
02:22:30,084 --> 02:22:31,619
they'll have to send you a copy.

2960
02:22:31,652 --> 02:22:34,889
When he appeals--
and trust me, he will--

2961
02:22:34,922 --> 02:22:37,324
-I appoint a board.
-(indistinct conversation)

2962
02:22:37,358 --> 02:22:39,827
They will, of course,
have counsel.

2963
02:22:39,860 --> 02:22:41,796
-NICHOLS: Prosecutor?
-In all but name.

2964
02:22:41,829 --> 02:22:43,998
-NICHOLS: Who?
-Roger Robb.

2965
02:22:44,031 --> 02:22:45,199
Ouch.

2966
02:22:45,232 --> 02:22:46,700
Robb will have
security clearance

2967
02:22:46,734 --> 02:22:48,269
<i>to examine Oppenheimer's file.</i>

2968
02:22:48,302 --> 02:22:49,737
<i>As will the Gray board.</i>

2969
02:22:49,770 --> 02:22:51,138
Defense counsel will not.

2970
02:22:52,973 --> 02:22:54,375
A closed hearing.

2971
02:22:54,408 --> 02:22:55,643
ROBERT: <i>The so-called</i>
<i>derogatory information</i>

2972
02:22:55,676 --> 02:22:57,845
in your indictment of me.

2973
02:22:57,878 --> 02:23:00,347
No audience. No reporters.

2974
02:23:00,381 --> 02:23:03,851
-No burden of proof.
-No burden of proof?

2975
02:23:05,219 --> 02:23:06,720
We're not convicting.

2976
02:23:07,421 --> 02:23:10,024
We're just denying.

2977
02:23:14,995 --> 02:23:17,765
What is it you said?

2978
02:23:17,798 --> 02:23:21,135
"This is just how
the game is played."

2979
02:23:21,168 --> 02:23:24,138
Well, forgive my naivete.

2980
02:23:24,171 --> 02:23:26,140
Amateurs seek the sun.

2981
02:23:27,108 --> 02:23:28,175
Get eaten.

2982
02:23:29,243 --> 02:23:32,079
Power stays in the shadows.

2983
02:23:32,113 --> 02:23:35,816
But, sir, you're...
you're out of the shadows now.

2984
02:23:35,850 --> 02:23:37,284
Yeah, that's why
this has to work.

2985
02:23:37,318 --> 02:23:38,786
Well...

2986
02:23:40,087 --> 02:23:42,223
Teller's testifying
this morning.

2987
02:23:42,256 --> 02:23:44,658
That'll help. And then...

2988
02:23:44,692 --> 02:23:46,127
Hill is in the afternoon.

2989
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:48,629
Hill is gonna help us too.

2990
02:23:50,865 --> 02:23:54,034
STRAUSS: As you can see,
Robert, it's not yet signed.

2991
02:23:54,068 --> 02:23:55,102
May I keep this?

2992
02:23:55,136 --> 02:23:56,170
NICHOLS:
No.

2993
02:23:58,272 --> 02:24:00,274
If you do decide to appeal,

2994
02:24:00,307 --> 02:24:03,144
then they'll have
to send you a copy.

2995
02:24:03,177 --> 02:24:05,679
(unsettling music playing)

2996
02:24:06,714 --> 02:24:09,016
Take my car and driver.
I insist.

2997
02:24:13,754 --> 02:24:15,689
I'll have to consult
my lawyers, Lewis.

2998
02:24:15,723 --> 02:24:18,425
Of course.
But don't take too long.

2999
02:24:18,459 --> 02:24:20,661
I can't keep Nichols at bay.

3000
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,103
I'm sorry
it's come to this, Robert.

3001
02:24:29,136 --> 02:24:30,171
I think it's wrong.

3002
02:24:30,204 --> 02:24:32,239
(unsettling music building)

3003
02:24:43,484 --> 02:24:44,919
ROBERT:
<i>Nichols wants me to fight</i>

3004
02:24:44,952 --> 02:24:46,954
<i>so he can get it</i>
<i>all on the record.</i>

3005
02:24:46,987 --> 02:24:48,856
Strauss wants me to walk away.

3006
02:24:48,889 --> 02:24:51,725
Strauss knows
that you can't do that,

3007
02:24:51,759 --> 02:24:54,195
you'd be accepting the charges.

3008
02:24:54,228 --> 02:24:55,896
You'll lose your job.

3009
02:24:55,930 --> 02:24:58,199
You will lose your reputation.
We'll lose our house.

3010
02:24:58,232 --> 02:25:00,935
Robert, we have to fight.

3011
02:25:01,769 --> 02:25:03,470
(smacks lips)

3012
02:25:03,504 --> 02:25:05,806
VOLPE: As AEC Counsel,
I can't represent you.

3013
02:25:05,839 --> 02:25:07,374
I'll call Lloyd Garrison.

3014
02:25:07,408 --> 02:25:08,943
Oh, he's good.

3015
02:25:08,976 --> 02:25:12,713
The best,
but I have to warn you...

3016
02:25:13,380 --> 02:25:15,816
...this won't be a fair fight.

3017
02:25:15,849 --> 02:25:17,851
-(suspenseful music plays)
-ROBB: <i>During your interview</i>

3018
02:25:17,885 --> 02:25:20,354
with Boris Pash in 1943,
did you refer to microfilm?

3019
02:25:20,387 --> 02:25:21,889
-No.
-Tab 11,

3020
02:25:21,922 --> 02:25:23,357
page one, paragraph three.
You never said,

3021
02:25:23,390 --> 02:25:27,027
"Man at the consulate expert
in the use of microfilm"?

3022
02:25:27,061 --> 02:25:28,395
-I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
-No.

3023
02:25:28,429 --> 02:25:29,363
I would like to know
what document

3024
02:25:29,396 --> 02:25:30,831
Mr. Robb is quoting from

3025
02:25:30,864 --> 02:25:32,132
and if we might be
furnished with a copy.

3026
02:25:32,166 --> 02:25:34,235
The document is classified,
Mr. Garrison.

3027
02:25:34,268 --> 02:25:36,103
I think we should get back
to first-hand information.

3028
02:25:36,136 --> 02:25:37,504
This is first-hand.

3029
02:25:37,539 --> 02:25:39,807
How so, Roger?

3030
02:25:41,175 --> 02:25:43,010
There was a recording
of the interview.

3031
02:25:46,981 --> 02:25:48,882
GARRISON:
You let my client sit here

3032
02:25:48,916 --> 02:25:50,417
and potentially perjure himself,

3033
02:25:50,451 --> 02:25:52,987
and all this time,
you had a recording?

3034
02:25:53,020 --> 02:25:54,388
Nobody told your client

3035
02:25:54,421 --> 02:25:55,823
to misrepresent
his former answers.

3036
02:25:55,856 --> 02:25:57,925
Misrepre...
It-it was 12 years ago.

3037
02:25:57,958 --> 02:25:59,260
Can we hear this recording?

3038
02:25:59,293 --> 02:26:00,861
You don't have the clearance,
Mr. Garrison.

3039
02:26:00,894 --> 02:26:02,530
But you're reading it
into the record.

3040
02:26:02,564 --> 02:26:04,198
Please, please.

3041
02:26:04,231 --> 02:26:07,835
Is this proceeding interested
in entrapment or in truth?

3042
02:26:07,868 --> 02:26:10,304
If it's truth,
where's the disclosure?

3043
02:26:10,337 --> 02:26:11,972
Where's the witness list?

3044
02:26:12,006 --> 02:26:14,542
Mr. Garrison, this isn't
a trial, as you are well aware.

3045
02:26:14,576 --> 02:26:16,443
Evidentiary rules do not apply.

3046
02:26:16,477 --> 02:26:18,345
We are dealing
with national security.

3047
02:26:18,379 --> 02:26:19,880
Yes, sir, with all due respect,

3048
02:26:19,913 --> 02:26:22,283
I fail to see how
national security

3049
02:26:22,316 --> 02:26:24,018
prevents the prosecution
from providing us

3050
02:26:24,051 --> 02:26:26,053
-with a list of witnesses.
-Perhaps we are in need

3051
02:26:26,086 --> 02:26:27,388
-of a brief recess.
-ROBERT: Gentlemen,

3052
02:26:27,421 --> 02:26:29,156
you have my words.

3053
02:26:29,189 --> 02:26:31,325
If you say they're from a
transcript, then I'll accept it.

3054
02:26:31,358 --> 02:26:34,128
I've already explained
I made up a cock-and-bull story.

3055
02:26:34,161 --> 02:26:37,498
But why would anyone
make up such an elaborate story?

3056
02:26:37,532 --> 02:26:39,601
Because I was an idiot.

3057
02:26:39,634 --> 02:26:41,235
Why lie?

3058
02:26:41,268 --> 02:26:43,871
Well, clearly with
the intention of not revealing

3059
02:26:43,904 --> 02:26:45,973
who the intermediary was.

3060
02:26:46,006 --> 02:26:48,042
Your friend, Haakon Chevalier,
the Communist.

3061
02:26:48,075 --> 02:26:50,344
Is he still your friend?

3062
02:26:50,377 --> 02:26:51,812
Yes.

3063
02:26:53,914 --> 02:26:56,850
GARRISON:
Dr. Rabi, thank you for coming.

3064
02:26:56,884 --> 02:26:58,586
Do you know who else
the prosecution has called?

3065
02:26:58,620 --> 02:27:00,954
Teller, obviously.

3066
02:27:01,922 --> 02:27:03,190
They've asked Lawrence.

3067
02:27:03,223 --> 02:27:04,058
What did he say?

3068
02:27:04,091 --> 02:27:06,994
He wasn't going
to help them, but...

3069
02:27:07,027 --> 02:27:07,961
But?

3070
02:27:07,995 --> 02:27:09,997
Strauss told him that
you and Ruth Tolman

3071
02:27:10,030 --> 02:27:12,466
<i>have been having</i>
<i>an affair for years.</i>

3072
02:27:12,499 --> 02:27:13,601
<i>The whole time you lived</i>

3073
02:27:13,635 --> 02:27:15,269
-with them in Pasadena.
-(sighs)

3074
02:27:15,302 --> 02:27:16,970
He convinced Lawrence

3075
02:27:17,004 --> 02:27:18,573
that Richard died
of a broken heart.

3076
02:27:18,606 --> 02:27:19,907
That's absurd.

3077
02:27:19,940 --> 02:27:22,476
-What part?
-The broken heart.

3078
02:27:22,510 --> 02:27:24,546
Richard never found out.

3079
02:27:24,579 --> 02:27:26,347
Is Lawrence gonna testify?

3080
02:27:26,380 --> 02:27:27,881
I don't know.

3081
02:27:28,415 --> 02:27:30,050
GARRISON:
Dr. Rabi,

3082
02:27:30,084 --> 02:27:33,153
what governmental positions
do you currently hold?

3083
02:27:33,187 --> 02:27:36,090
I am the chairman of the
General Advisory Committee

3084
02:27:36,123 --> 02:27:39,026
to the AEC,
succeeding Dr. Oppenheimer.

3085
02:27:39,059 --> 02:27:41,895
GARRISON: And how long have
you known Dr. Oppenheimer?

3086
02:27:41,929 --> 02:27:43,531
Since 1928.

3087
02:27:43,565 --> 02:27:45,633
I... I know him quite well.

3088
02:27:45,667 --> 02:27:47,635
Well enough
to speak to the bearing

3089
02:27:47,669 --> 02:27:50,237
of his loyalty and character?

3090
02:27:50,270 --> 02:27:54,274
Dr. Oppenheimer is a man
of upstanding character.

3091
02:27:54,308 --> 02:27:56,977
And he is loyal
to the United States,

3092
02:27:57,010 --> 02:27:58,245
to his friends,

3093
02:27:58,278 --> 02:28:00,948
to the institutions
of which he is part.

3094
02:28:02,416 --> 02:28:03,450
Eat.

3095
02:28:06,353 --> 02:28:07,388
(scoffs)

3096
02:28:08,556 --> 02:28:11,158
(suspenseful music continues)

3097
02:28:22,436 --> 02:28:24,138
-ROBERT: What was that?
-(door closes)

3098
02:28:24,171 --> 02:28:26,206
RABI:
Nothing to worry about.

3099
02:28:28,442 --> 02:28:30,177
ROBB:
<i>After the Russian A-bomb test,</i>

3100
02:28:30,210 --> 02:28:32,680
did Dr. Lawrence come to see you
about the hydrogen bomb?

3101
02:28:32,714 --> 02:28:34,516
You'd be better off asking him.

3102
02:28:34,549 --> 02:28:36,083
Well, I fully intend to.

3103
02:28:36,116 --> 02:28:38,686
Would you say
that Dr. Oppenheimer was

3104
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:40,722
unalterably opposed
to the H-bomb?

3105
02:28:40,755 --> 02:28:43,558
No, he-he thought that
a fusion program

3106
02:28:43,591 --> 02:28:46,694
would come at the expense of our
awfully good fission program.

3107
02:28:46,728 --> 02:28:48,563
But that proved
not to be the case.

3108
02:28:48,596 --> 02:28:51,231
In the event both could be done.

3109
02:28:51,265 --> 02:28:53,568
Suppose that this board
did not feel satisfied

3110
02:28:53,601 --> 02:28:54,736
that in his testimony here,

3111
02:28:54,769 --> 02:28:57,037
Dr. Oppenheimer had been
wholly truthful.

3112
02:28:57,070 --> 02:29:00,274
What would you say whether
or not he should be cleared?

3113
02:29:00,307 --> 02:29:02,209
Why go through
all this against a man

3114
02:29:02,242 --> 02:29:04,445
who has accomplished
what Dr. Oppenheimer has?

3115
02:29:04,478 --> 02:29:06,113
Look at his record.

3116
02:29:06,146 --> 02:29:08,215
We have an A-bomb
and a whole series of it.

3117
02:29:08,248 --> 02:29:10,184
We have a whole series
of Super bombs.

3118
02:29:10,217 --> 02:29:12,186
What more do you want?

3119
02:29:12,219 --> 02:29:13,086
Mermaids?

3120
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:15,422
TELLER:
But I've known Secretary Strauss

3121
02:29:15,456 --> 02:29:17,057
for many years,

3122
02:29:17,090 --> 02:29:20,360
and I feel it a necessity
to express the warm support

3123
02:29:20,394 --> 02:29:23,063
for science and scientists
Lewis has shown.

3124
02:29:23,096 --> 02:29:24,331
We'll break now,

3125
02:29:24,364 --> 02:29:26,166
unless there's
any immediate business.

3126
02:29:26,200 --> 02:29:28,736
STRAUSS: Senator, I'd like
to once again request

3127
02:29:28,770 --> 02:29:31,438
that we're furnished
with a list of witnesses.

3128
02:29:31,472 --> 02:29:34,241
And I will remind the nominee
that we don't always

3129
02:29:34,274 --> 02:29:36,276
have that information
in advance.

3130
02:29:36,310 --> 02:29:39,747
We do know that Dr. Hill
will be here after lunch.

3131
02:29:39,781 --> 02:29:41,415
Mr. Chairman,
our next scheduled witness,

3132
02:29:41,448 --> 02:29:45,986
Dr. Lawrence, has apparently
come down with colitis.

3133
02:29:47,454 --> 02:29:50,357
So we'll proceed with
William Borden instead.

3134
02:29:51,626 --> 02:29:53,026
Mr. Borden, welcome.

3135
02:29:53,060 --> 02:29:54,529
Please take a seat.

3136
02:29:55,697 --> 02:29:58,098
Mr. Borden,

3137
02:29:58,131 --> 02:30:00,702
during your investigation
into Dr. Oppenheimer,

3138
02:30:00,735 --> 02:30:02,369
did you reach
certain conclusions?

3139
02:30:02,402 --> 02:30:04,706
-I did.
-And did there come a time

3140
02:30:04,739 --> 02:30:06,206
when you expressed
those conclusions

3141
02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:08,242
in a letter
to Mr. J. Edgar Hoover

3142
02:30:08,275 --> 02:30:10,210
of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation?

3143
02:30:10,244 --> 02:30:11,646
-BORDEN: That is correct.
-Prior to the writing

3144
02:30:11,679 --> 02:30:13,447
of the letter, did you discuss
the writing of the letter

3145
02:30:13,480 --> 02:30:15,783
with anybody attached to
the Atomic Energy Commission?

3146
02:30:15,817 --> 02:30:17,417
I did not.

3147
02:30:17,451 --> 02:30:18,786
ROBB: Thanks, and do you have
a copy of the letter?

3148
02:30:18,820 --> 02:30:20,420
BORDEN:
I have one in front of me.

3149
02:30:20,454 --> 02:30:22,557
Would you please be so kind
as to read it, sir?

3150
02:30:22,590 --> 02:30:24,124
BORDEN:
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

3151
02:30:24,157 --> 02:30:25,593
the purpose of this letter
is to state..."

3152
02:30:25,627 --> 02:30:27,662
GARRISON: Uh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, if I could have a...

3153
02:30:27,695 --> 02:30:30,063
What is the purpose
of the delay?

3154
02:30:30,097 --> 02:30:31,566
He's simply gonna
read the letter.

3155
02:30:31,599 --> 02:30:33,133
(scoffs) Mr. Chairman,

3156
02:30:33,166 --> 02:30:35,168
this is the first
I've seen of this letter,

3157
02:30:35,202 --> 02:30:36,470
and I see statements here, uh,

3158
02:30:36,503 --> 02:30:38,472
at least one,
of a kind that I don't think

3159
02:30:38,505 --> 02:30:40,474
anyone would like to see
go into the record.

3160
02:30:40,507 --> 02:30:43,277
These are accusations that have
not previously been made.

3161
02:30:43,310 --> 02:30:45,245
That are not part of
the indictment from Nichols.

3162
02:30:45,279 --> 02:30:47,414
Accusations of a kind that
I don't think belong here.

3163
02:30:47,447 --> 02:30:49,617
The witness wrote this letter
on his own initiative,

3164
02:30:49,651 --> 02:30:52,219
laying out evidence that has
already been before the board.

3165
02:30:52,252 --> 02:30:53,855
His conclusions
are valid testimony,

3166
02:30:53,888 --> 02:30:55,790
just like the...
the positive conclusions

3167
02:30:55,823 --> 02:30:57,157
of friends of Dr. Oppenheimer.

3168
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:58,693
It cuts both ways.

3169
02:30:58,726 --> 02:31:01,161
How long has Counsel been
in possession of this letter?

3170
02:31:01,194 --> 02:31:02,564
I don't think
I should be subject

3171
02:31:02,597 --> 02:31:05,165
to cross-examination by you,
Mr. Garrison.

3172
02:31:05,198 --> 02:31:06,834
GRAY: Mr. Garrison,
given that we on the board

3173
02:31:06,868 --> 02:31:08,368
have all read the letter,

3174
02:31:08,402 --> 02:31:10,738
wouldn't it be better
to have it in the record?

3175
02:31:10,772 --> 02:31:12,239
Let's proceed.

3176
02:31:12,272 --> 02:31:14,207
(tense music playing)

3177
02:31:14,241 --> 02:31:15,710
BORDEN:
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

3178
02:31:15,743 --> 02:31:19,179
"the purpose of this letter
is to state my opinion

3179
02:31:19,212 --> 02:31:20,515
"based upon years of study

3180
02:31:20,548 --> 02:31:23,317
"of the available
classified evidence,

3181
02:31:23,350 --> 02:31:25,385
"that more probably than not,

3182
02:31:25,419 --> 02:31:30,290
"J. Robert Oppenheimer is
an agent of the Soviet Union.

3183
02:31:30,324 --> 02:31:32,660
"The following conclusions
are justified.

3184
02:31:32,694 --> 02:31:37,532
"One, between 1929 and 1942,
more probably than not,

3185
02:31:37,565 --> 02:31:38,866
"J. Robert Oppenheimer

3186
02:31:38,900 --> 02:31:41,201
"was a sufficiently
hardened Communist,

3187
02:31:41,234 --> 02:31:43,337
"that he volunteered
information to the Soviets.

3188
02:31:43,370 --> 02:31:45,707
"Two, more probably than not,

3189
02:31:45,740 --> 02:31:50,310
"he has since been functioning
as an espionage agent.

3190
02:31:50,344 --> 02:31:53,180
"Three, more probably than not,

3191
02:31:53,213 --> 02:31:55,449
"he has since acted
under a Soviet directive

3192
02:31:55,482 --> 02:31:58,218
in influencing United States
military policy..."

3193
02:31:58,251 --> 02:31:59,486
I'm sorry, Robert.

3194
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:00,855
BORDEN:
"...atomic energy, intelligence

3195
02:32:00,888 --> 02:32:02,255
-and diplomatic policy."
-Is anyone

3196
02:32:02,289 --> 02:32:03,925
ever going to tell the truth

3197
02:32:03,958 --> 02:32:05,727
about what's happening here?

3198
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:09,296
CHAIRMAN MAGNUSON: <i>We will now</i>
<i>hear from Dr. David Hill.</i>

3199
02:32:09,329 --> 02:32:11,733
(soft suspenseful music plays)

3200
02:32:18,539 --> 02:32:19,874
Dr. Hill,

3201
02:32:19,907 --> 02:32:22,543
would you care
to make a statement?

3202
02:32:23,678 --> 02:32:25,245
Thank you.

3203
02:32:25,278 --> 02:32:28,950
I've been asked to testify
about Lewis Strauss.

3204
02:32:28,983 --> 02:32:31,385
A man who has
given years of service

3205
02:32:31,418 --> 02:32:34,388
in high positions of government

3206
02:32:34,421 --> 02:32:39,359
and who is known to be earnest,
hardworking and intelligent.

3207
02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:41,863
The views I have to express
are my own,

3208
02:32:41,896 --> 02:32:45,600
but I believe that much I have
to say will help to indicate

3209
02:32:45,633 --> 02:32:49,336
why most of the scientists
in this country

3210
02:32:49,369 --> 02:32:52,372
would prefer to see Mr. Strauss

3211
02:32:52,406 --> 02:32:54,241
completely out of government.

3212
02:32:54,274 --> 02:32:56,243
(murmurs of surprise)

3213
02:32:56,276 --> 02:32:58,780
You're... You're referring
to the hostility

3214
02:32:58,813 --> 02:33:00,280
of certain scientists

3215
02:33:00,313 --> 02:33:01,949
directed toward Mr. Strauss

3216
02:33:01,983 --> 02:33:04,217
because of his commitment
to security

3217
02:33:04,251 --> 02:33:07,254
as demonstrated
in the Oppenheimer affair?

3218
02:33:09,724 --> 02:33:10,992
No.

3219
02:33:11,025 --> 02:33:13,427
Because of the personal
vindictiveness

3220
02:33:13,460 --> 02:33:15,697
he demonstrated against
Dr. Oppenheimer.

3221
02:33:15,730 --> 02:33:17,330
(people exclaiming)

3222
02:33:17,364 --> 02:33:19,499
-MAGNUSON: Order.
-(gavel banging)

3223
02:33:19,534 --> 02:33:20,568
Order!

3224
02:33:20,601 --> 02:33:25,873
It appears to most
scientists around this country

3225
02:33:25,907 --> 02:33:27,441
that Robert Oppenheimer
is now being

3226
02:33:27,474 --> 02:33:29,711
pilloried and put through
an ordeal

3227
02:33:29,744 --> 02:33:32,847
because he expressed
his honest opinions.

3228
02:33:33,848 --> 02:33:35,917
Dr. Bush, I thought
I was performing a service

3229
02:33:35,950 --> 02:33:37,685
to my country
when hearing this case.

3230
02:33:37,719 --> 02:33:41,856
No board in this country
should sit in judgment of a man

3231
02:33:41,889 --> 02:33:44,525
because he expressed
strong opinions.

3232
02:33:44,559 --> 02:33:47,628
If you want to try that case,
you should try me.

3233
02:33:47,662 --> 02:33:51,666
Excuse me, gentlemen,
if I become stirred,

3234
02:33:51,699 --> 02:33:52,900
but I am.

3235
02:33:52,934 --> 02:33:54,902
Dr. Hill, we've already heard

3236
02:33:54,936 --> 02:33:57,370
that Mr. Strauss
did not bring the charges

3237
02:33:57,404 --> 02:34:00,474
or participate in the hearings
against Dr. Oppenheimer.

3238
02:34:00,507 --> 02:34:03,010
The Oppenheimer matter was

3239
02:34:03,044 --> 02:34:05,412
initiated and carried through

3240
02:34:05,445 --> 02:34:07,815
largely through the animus
of Lewis Strauss.

3241
02:34:07,849 --> 02:34:09,382
(people exclaim)

3242
02:34:09,416 --> 02:34:12,053
Oppenheimer made mincemeat
out of Strauss's position

3243
02:34:12,086 --> 02:34:13,688
on the shipment
of isotopes to Norway,

3244
02:34:13,721 --> 02:34:17,725
and Strauss never forgave him
this public humiliation.

3245
02:34:17,759 --> 02:34:20,360
Another controversy between them
centered around

3246
02:34:20,393 --> 02:34:23,363
their differences in judgment
on how the H-bomb

3247
02:34:23,396 --> 02:34:25,465
<i>would contribute</i>
<i>to national security.</i>

3248
02:34:25,499 --> 02:34:27,467
Strauss turned to
the personnel security system

3249
02:34:27,501 --> 02:34:31,739
in order to destroy
Oppenheimer's effectiveness,

3250
02:34:31,773 --> 02:34:34,307
and Strauss was able to find
a few ambitious men

3251
02:34:34,341 --> 02:34:37,377
who also disagreed
with Oppenheimer's positions

3252
02:34:37,410 --> 02:34:40,447
and envied him his prestige
in government circles.

3253
02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:43,084
TELLER: I've always assumed,
and still assume,

3254
02:34:43,117 --> 02:34:45,352
that he's loyal
to the United States.

3255
02:34:45,385 --> 02:34:46,788
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

3256
02:34:46,821 --> 02:34:49,389
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

3257
02:34:49,422 --> 02:34:51,391
Do you or do you not believe

3258
02:34:51,424 --> 02:34:53,728
that Dr. Oppenheimer
is a security risk?

3259
02:34:54,729 --> 02:34:55,830
(smacks lips)

3260
02:34:57,464 --> 02:34:58,733
In a great number of cases,

3261
02:34:58,766 --> 02:35:00,735
I have seen Dr. Oppenheimer
act in a way

3262
02:35:00,768 --> 02:35:04,639
which was to me
exceedingly hard to understand.

3263
02:35:04,672 --> 02:35:06,674
I thoroughly disagreed
with him in numerous issues,

3264
02:35:06,707 --> 02:35:08,810
and his actions frankly
appeared to me

3265
02:35:08,843 --> 02:35:10,377
confused and complicated.

3266
02:35:10,410 --> 02:35:11,946
To this extent, I feel,

3267
02:35:11,979 --> 02:35:15,082
I want to see the vital
interest of this country

3268
02:35:15,116 --> 02:35:16,951
in hands which
I understand better

3269
02:35:16,984 --> 02:35:19,120
and therefore trust more.

3270
02:35:19,153 --> 02:35:21,923
-MORGAN: Thank you, Doctor.
-ROBB: Thank you.

3271
02:35:25,726 --> 02:35:26,828
I'm sorry.

3272
02:35:29,462 --> 02:35:31,632
KITTY:
<i>You shook his fucking hand?</i>

3273
02:35:31,666 --> 02:35:34,569
Oh, I would have
spit in his face.

3274
02:35:34,602 --> 02:35:36,137
Not sure the board
would have appreciated that.

3275
02:35:36,170 --> 02:35:37,738
KITTY: Is it not
gentlemanly enough for you?

3276
02:35:37,772 --> 02:35:41,108
Well, I-I think you're all being
too goddamn gentlemanly.

3277
02:35:41,142 --> 02:35:43,110
Gray must see
what Robb is doing.

3278
02:35:43,144 --> 02:35:45,079
Why doesn't he just
shut him down?

3279
02:35:45,112 --> 02:35:47,715
And you shaking Teller's hand.

3280
02:35:47,748 --> 02:35:50,618
You need to stop
playing the martyr.

3281
02:35:51,619 --> 02:35:54,021
Under the current
AEC guidelines,

3282
02:35:54,055 --> 02:35:56,456
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

3283
02:35:56,489 --> 02:35:58,793
(unnerving music playing)

3284
02:36:02,630 --> 02:36:04,999
Under my interpretation (sighs)

3285
02:36:05,032 --> 02:36:07,168
of the Atomic Energy Act,

3286
02:36:07,201 --> 02:36:09,036
which did not exist

3287
02:36:09,070 --> 02:36:11,906
when I hired
Dr. Oppenheimer in 1942...

3288
02:36:13,140 --> 02:36:16,544
I would not clear him today,

3289
02:36:16,577 --> 02:36:18,546
uh, if I were on the commission.

3290
02:36:18,579 --> 02:36:20,147
ROBB: Good. Thank you, General.
That is all.

3291
02:36:20,181 --> 02:36:22,183
But I don't think I'd clear
any of those guys.

3292
02:36:22,216 --> 02:36:24,384
That's all.

3293
02:36:26,888 --> 02:36:29,023
GARRISON: Dr. Oppenheimer
had no responsibility

3294
02:36:29,056 --> 02:36:30,558
in the selection
or the clearance

3295
02:36:30,591 --> 02:36:31,893
of Klaus Fuchs, did he?

3296
02:36:31,926 --> 02:36:33,194
No. None at all.

3297
02:36:33,227 --> 02:36:34,829
And you wouldn't want
to leave this board

3298
02:36:34,862 --> 02:36:37,632
with any suggestion today
that you're here questioning

3299
02:36:37,665 --> 02:36:39,700
his basic loyalty
to the United States

3300
02:36:39,734 --> 02:36:41,135
in the operation of Los Alamos?

3301
02:36:41,168 --> 02:36:42,737
By no means.

3302
02:36:42,770 --> 02:36:44,772
I hope I didn't lead anyone
to believe otherwise

3303
02:36:44,805 --> 02:36:46,439
for an instant.

3304
02:36:46,473 --> 02:36:47,575
GRAY:
Thank you, General.

3305
02:36:47,608 --> 02:36:50,645
(wistful music playing)

3306
02:37:05,626 --> 02:37:07,895
Okay. We shouldn't
keep them waiting.

3307
02:37:07,929 --> 02:37:09,196
She'll be here.

3308
02:37:09,230 --> 02:37:10,665
Do you even want her here?

3309
02:37:10,698 --> 02:37:13,200
Only a fool or an adolescent

3310
02:37:13,234 --> 02:37:15,136
presumes to know
someone else's relationship,

3311
02:37:15,169 --> 02:37:17,470
and you're neither, Lloyd.

3312
02:37:17,504 --> 02:37:19,006
(door shuts)

3313
02:37:19,040 --> 02:37:21,008
Kitty and I,

3314
02:37:21,042 --> 02:37:23,110
we're grown-ups.

3315
02:37:23,144 --> 02:37:25,980
<i>We've walked</i>
<i>through fire together.</i>

3316
02:37:26,013 --> 02:37:28,582
She'll do fine.

3317
02:37:28,616 --> 02:37:30,685
GARRISON: Would you describe
your views on Communism

3318
02:37:30,718 --> 02:37:32,753
as pro, anti, neutral?

3319
02:37:32,787 --> 02:37:34,655
KITTY:
Very strongly against.

3320
02:37:34,689 --> 02:37:36,824
I-I've had nothing to do
with Communism in... since...

3321
02:37:36,857 --> 02:37:39,694
since 1936, since...

3322
02:37:39,727 --> 02:37:42,596
since before I met Robert.

3323
02:37:43,197 --> 02:37:45,032
That's all.

3324
02:37:45,066 --> 02:37:46,634
HILL:
<i>The record demonstrates</i>

3325
02:37:46,667 --> 02:37:48,269
<i>that Oppenheimer</i>
<i>was not interrogated</i>

3326
02:37:48,302 --> 02:37:51,539
<i>by impartial and disinterested</i>
<i>counsel for the Gray board.</i>

3327
02:37:51,572 --> 02:37:52,974
<i>He was interrogated</i>
<i>by a prosecutor</i>

3328
02:37:53,007 --> 02:37:54,675
<i>who used all the tricks</i>

3329
02:37:54,709 --> 02:37:56,510
<i>of a rather ingenious</i>
<i>legal background.</i>

3330
02:37:56,544 --> 02:37:57,979
SENATOR SCOTT:
You are charging now

3331
02:37:58,012 --> 02:38:00,982
that the Gray board
permitted a prosecution.

3332
02:38:01,015 --> 02:38:03,718
If I were on the Gray board,

3333
02:38:03,751 --> 02:38:05,720
I would have protested
against the tactics

3334
02:38:05,753 --> 02:38:08,656
of the man who served, in fact,
as the prosecuting counsel.

3335
02:38:08,689 --> 02:38:11,892
A man appointed not by the board

3336
02:38:11,926 --> 02:38:13,995
but by Lewis Strauss.

3337
02:38:14,028 --> 02:38:15,963
(people exclaim)

3338
02:38:15,997 --> 02:38:17,031
Who was this?

3339
02:38:18,332 --> 02:38:20,167
I'm sorry?

3340
02:38:20,201 --> 02:38:21,268
Who was this?

3341
02:38:21,302 --> 02:38:22,737
Uh, Roger Robb.

3342
02:38:22,770 --> 02:38:25,106
-(chair scrapes)
-Mrs. Oppenheimer.

3343
02:38:27,041 --> 02:38:29,276
(pensive music playing)

3344
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:31,746
Did you have a Communist Party
membership card?

3345
02:38:33,180 --> 02:38:35,282
I'm... I'm not sure.

3346
02:38:35,316 --> 02:38:36,817
ROBB:
Not sure?

3347
02:38:39,787 --> 02:38:40,788
Well...

3348
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:44,925
-(sighs)
-ROBB: Well?

3349
02:38:53,868 --> 02:38:56,837
I mean, presumably,
the act of joining the Party

3350
02:38:56,871 --> 02:39:00,641
required sending some money
and receiving a card, no?

3351
02:39:03,811 --> 02:39:04,945
Yeah.

3352
02:39:08,015 --> 02:39:09,717
(sighs)

3353
02:39:10,317 --> 02:39:11,719
(softly):
Sorry.

3354
02:39:12,353 --> 02:39:13,954
ROBB:
Yes. Mm.

3355
02:39:15,790 --> 02:39:17,792
It's just it was all
so very long ago,

3356
02:39:17,825 --> 02:39:19,660
-Mr. Robb, wasn't it?
-Not really.

3357
02:39:19,693 --> 02:39:20,928
Long enough to have forgotten.

3358
02:39:20,961 --> 02:39:22,329
Did you return the card
or rip it up?

3359
02:39:22,363 --> 02:39:23,964
The card whose existence
I've forgotten?

3360
02:39:23,998 --> 02:39:25,800
Your Communist Party
membership card.

3361
02:39:25,833 --> 02:39:27,568
Haven't the slightest idea.

3362
02:39:29,870 --> 02:39:32,640
Can a distinction
be made between

3363
02:39:32,673 --> 02:39:34,341
Soviet Communism and Communism?

3364
02:39:34,375 --> 02:39:35,943
Well, in the days
when I was a member,

3365
02:39:35,976 --> 02:39:37,611
I thought they were
definitely two things.

3366
02:39:37,645 --> 02:39:38,913
-Oh?
-I thought that

3367
02:39:38,946 --> 02:39:40,815
the Communist Party
of the United States

3368
02:39:40,848 --> 02:39:43,250
was concerned with
our domestic problems.

3369
02:39:43,284 --> 02:39:44,752
I now no longer believe this.

3370
02:39:44,785 --> 02:39:45,820
Believe the whole thing's
linked together

3371
02:39:45,853 --> 02:39:47,121
and spread all over the world,

3372
02:39:47,154 --> 02:39:49,356
and I have believed this
since I left the Party

3373
02:39:49,390 --> 02:39:50,858
16 years ago.

3374
02:39:50,891 --> 02:39:52,193
-But...
-Seventeen years ago.

3375
02:39:52,226 --> 02:39:53,627
My mistake.

3376
02:39:53,661 --> 02:39:56,297
-But you said...
-Sorry, 18.

3377
02:39:56,330 --> 02:39:58,599
Eighteen years ago.

3378
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:00,701
ROBB:
Are you familiar with the fact

3379
02:40:00,734 --> 02:40:01,902
your husband was
making contributions

3380
02:40:01,936 --> 02:40:05,005
to the Spanish Civil War
as late as 1942?

3381
02:40:05,039 --> 02:40:06,907
I knew that Robert gave money
from time to time.

3382
02:40:06,941 --> 02:40:08,175
Did you know
this money was going

3383
02:40:08,209 --> 02:40:09,643
into Communist Party channels?

3384
02:40:09,677 --> 02:40:11,112
Don't you mean "through"?

3385
02:40:11,145 --> 02:40:12,913
-Pardon?
-I think you mean

3386
02:40:12,947 --> 02:40:14,748
"through Communist Party
channels," don't you?

3387
02:40:14,782 --> 02:40:16,016
-Y-Yes!
-Yes?

3388
02:40:16,050 --> 02:40:17,952
-Yes!
-KITTY: Yes.

3389
02:40:17,985 --> 02:40:21,689
Then would it be fair to say
that this meant that by 1942,

3390
02:40:21,722 --> 02:40:23,023
your husband had not stopped

3391
02:40:23,057 --> 02:40:24,992
having anything to do
with the Communist Party?

3392
02:40:25,025 --> 02:40:26,827
You don't have
to answer that yes or no.

3393
02:40:26,861 --> 02:40:28,229
You can answer that
any way you wish.

3394
02:40:28,262 --> 02:40:30,131
I know that, thank you.

3395
02:40:30,164 --> 02:40:31,866
It's your question.

3396
02:40:31,899 --> 02:40:33,801
-It's not properly phrased.
-Do you understand

3397
02:40:33,834 --> 02:40:35,069
-what I'm getting at?
-I do.

3398
02:40:35,102 --> 02:40:36,370
Then why don't you
answer it that way?

3399
02:40:36,403 --> 02:40:38,005
'Cause I don't like your phrase.

3400
02:40:38,038 --> 02:40:39,974
"Having anything to do
with the Communist Party."

3401
02:40:40,007 --> 02:40:41,809
Because Robert never
had anything to do

3402
02:40:41,842 --> 02:40:43,144
with the Communist Party
as such.

3403
02:40:43,177 --> 02:40:45,813
I know he gave money
to Spanish refugees.

3404
02:40:45,846 --> 02:40:47,781
I know he took
an intellectual interest

3405
02:40:47,815 --> 02:40:49,016
in Communist ideas...

3406
02:40:49,049 --> 02:40:50,151
Are there two types
of Communists?

3407
02:40:50,184 --> 02:40:51,886
Intellectual Communists

3408
02:40:51,919 --> 02:40:53,854
and your plain old
regular Commie?

3409
02:40:53,888 --> 02:40:54,822
(laughs)

3410
02:40:54,855 --> 02:40:56,423
Well, I couldn't
answer that one.

3411
02:40:56,457 --> 02:40:59,226
EVANS:
(laughs) I couldn't either.

3412
02:41:05,366 --> 02:41:07,168
GARRISON:
Evening.

3413
02:41:07,201 --> 02:41:08,936
VOLPE: Robert,
you can't win this thing.

3414
02:41:08,969 --> 02:41:10,905
It's a kangaroo court
with a predetermined outcome.

3415
02:41:10,938 --> 02:41:12,873
Why put yourself
through more of it?

3416
02:41:13,474 --> 02:41:15,910
I have my reasons.

3417
02:41:16,511 --> 02:41:17,945
All right.

3418
02:41:17,978 --> 02:41:19,113
Good night.

3419
02:41:23,817 --> 02:41:25,219
He has a point.

3420
02:41:26,153 --> 02:41:28,189
I'm not sure
you understand, Albert.

3421
02:41:28,222 --> 02:41:29,323
EINSTEIN:
No?

3422
02:41:29,356 --> 02:41:32,860
I left my country
never to return.

3423
02:41:33,494 --> 02:41:35,462
You served your country well.

3424
02:41:35,496 --> 02:41:39,133
If this is the reward
she offers you, then...

3425
02:41:39,166 --> 02:41:42,803
perhaps you should
turn your back on her.

3426
02:41:42,836 --> 02:41:45,472
Damn it, I happen
to love this country.

3427
02:41:45,506 --> 02:41:48,108
Then tell them to go to hell.

3428
02:41:48,142 --> 02:41:49,043
Interestingly enough,

3429
02:41:49,076 --> 02:41:52,146
this is no longer
a confirmation hearing,

3430
02:41:52,179 --> 02:41:54,348
it's now a trial...

3431
02:41:54,381 --> 02:41:56,116
about a trial!

3432
02:41:57,117 --> 02:41:58,419
It's not good
he's telling everyone

3433
02:41:58,452 --> 02:41:59,753
you initiated the hearings.

3434
02:41:59,787 --> 02:42:02,156
He can't prove a goddamn thing.

3435
02:42:02,189 --> 02:42:04,858
He certainly can't prove
that I gave the file to Borden.

3436
02:42:04,892 --> 02:42:07,228
We're not in court, sir.

3437
02:42:07,261 --> 02:42:08,462
There's no burden of proof.

3438
02:42:08,495 --> 02:42:10,864
Right. They're not convicting...

3439
02:42:10,898 --> 02:42:12,166
(sighs) just denying.

3440
02:42:12,199 --> 02:42:15,102
Why would Hill come here
to tear me down?

3441
02:42:15,135 --> 02:42:16,770
What's his angle?

3442
02:42:16,804 --> 02:42:18,906
Do people need a reason
to do the right thing?

3443
02:42:18,939 --> 02:42:20,542
-As he sees it.
-I told you,

3444
02:42:20,575 --> 02:42:23,244
Oppenheimer poisoned
the scientists against me,

3445
02:42:23,277 --> 02:42:24,979
right from that first meeting.

3446
02:42:25,012 --> 02:42:28,249
<i>I don't know what Oppenheimer</i>
<i>said to him that day,</i>

3447
02:42:28,282 --> 02:42:31,018
but Einstein wouldn't
even meet my eye.

3448
02:42:31,051 --> 02:42:32,086
(inaudible)

3449
02:42:32,119 --> 02:42:35,222
<i>Oppenheimer knows</i>
<i>how to manipulate his own.</i>

3450
02:42:35,256 --> 02:42:36,524
And at Los Alamos,

3451
02:42:36,558 --> 02:42:38,892
he preyed
on the naivete of scientists

3452
02:42:38,926 --> 02:42:41,228
who thought they'd get a say
in how we used their work,

3453
02:42:41,262 --> 02:42:44,265
but don't ever think
he was that naive himself.

3454
02:42:44,298 --> 02:42:45,567
ROBB:
Doctor.

3455
02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:47,569
During your work
on the hydrogen bomb,

3456
02:42:47,602 --> 02:42:51,272
were you deterred
by any moral qualms?

3457
02:42:51,305 --> 02:42:52,940
Yes, of course.

3458
02:42:52,973 --> 02:42:54,275
ROBB: But you still got on
with your work, didn't you?

3459
02:42:54,308 --> 02:42:56,544
Yes, because this was
work of exploration,

3460
02:42:56,578 --> 02:42:58,812
it was not the preparation
of a weapon.

3461
02:42:58,846 --> 02:43:00,914
You mean it was more of a...
an academic excursion.

3462
02:43:00,948 --> 02:43:02,850
No, it is not an academic thing

3463
02:43:02,883 --> 02:43:04,285
whether you can build
a hydrogen bomb.

3464
02:43:04,318 --> 02:43:05,919
It's a matter of life and death.

3465
02:43:05,953 --> 02:43:07,321
By 1942, you were
actively pushing

3466
02:43:07,354 --> 02:43:08,922
the development of
the hydrogen bomb, weren't you?

3467
02:43:08,956 --> 02:43:10,190
Pushing's not the right word.

3468
02:43:10,224 --> 02:43:12,159
Supporting it
and working on it, yes.

3469
02:43:12,192 --> 02:43:14,529
So when did these moral qualms
become so strong

3470
02:43:14,562 --> 02:43:16,196
that you actively opposed

3471
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:17,898
the development
of the hydrogen bomb?

3472
02:43:17,931 --> 02:43:19,900
When it was suggested
that it be the policy

3473
02:43:19,933 --> 02:43:22,102
of the United States to make
these things at all cost

3474
02:43:22,136 --> 02:43:24,138
without regard to the balance
between these weapons

3475
02:43:24,171 --> 02:43:27,241
and atomic weapons
as part of our arsenal.

3476
02:43:28,610 --> 02:43:30,545
What do moral qualms
have to do with that?

3477
02:43:30,578 --> 02:43:32,614
Wha... What do moral qualms

3478
02:43:32,647 --> 02:43:34,181
-have to do with it?
-ROBB: Yes.

3479
02:43:34,214 --> 02:43:36,283
Oppenheimer wanted
to own the atomic bomb.

3480
02:43:36,317 --> 02:43:38,218
He wanted to be the man
who moved the Earth.

3481
02:43:38,252 --> 02:43:41,422
He talks about
putting the nuclear genie

3482
02:43:41,455 --> 02:43:42,923
back in the bottle.

3483
02:43:42,956 --> 02:43:44,091
Well, I'm here to tell you

3484
02:43:44,124 --> 02:43:46,327
that I know
J. Robert Oppenheimer,

3485
02:43:46,360 --> 02:43:50,464
and if he could do it all over,
he'd do it all the same.

3486
02:43:50,497 --> 02:43:53,535
You know he's never once said
that he regrets Hiroshima?

3487
02:43:53,568 --> 02:43:56,437
He'd do it all over. Why?

3488
02:43:56,470 --> 02:43:57,905
Because it made him

3489
02:43:57,938 --> 02:43:59,574
the most important man
who ever lived.

3490
02:43:59,607 --> 02:44:01,942
(voice quivering):
Well, we've...

3491
02:44:01,975 --> 02:44:04,078
we've freely used
the atomic bomb...

3492
02:44:04,111 --> 02:44:06,213
ROBB: In fact, Doctor,
you assisted in selecting

3493
02:44:06,246 --> 02:44:07,649
the target to drop
the atomic bomb on Japan,

3494
02:44:07,682 --> 02:44:09,350
-didn't you?
-Yes.

3495
02:44:09,383 --> 02:44:11,018
ROBB: Well, then you knew,
did you not, that by dropping

3496
02:44:11,051 --> 02:44:13,220
that atomic bomb
on the target you selected,

3497
02:44:13,253 --> 02:44:14,656
that thousands of civilians
would be killed

3498
02:44:14,689 --> 02:44:16,423
or injured, is that correct?

3499
02:44:16,457 --> 02:44:18,359
Yes, not as many
as turned out...

3500
02:44:18,392 --> 02:44:20,595
Oh. Well, how many
were killed or injured?

3501
02:44:20,628 --> 02:44:22,496
-70,000.
-ROBB: 70,000

3502
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:23,598
at both Hiroshima and...

3503
02:44:23,631 --> 02:44:25,065
110,000 at both.

3504
02:44:25,099 --> 02:44:26,500
ROBB:
On the day of each bombing?

3505
02:44:26,534 --> 02:44:28,435
(tense music playing)

3506
02:44:28,469 --> 02:44:29,637
Yes.

3507
02:44:29,671 --> 02:44:31,238
And in the weeks
and years that followed?

3508
02:44:31,271 --> 02:44:33,974
It has been put at somewhere
between 50 and 100,000.

3509
02:44:34,007 --> 02:44:36,110
-220,000 dead at least?
-ROBERT: Yes.

3510
02:44:36,143 --> 02:44:38,045
Any moral scruples about that?

3511
02:44:39,413 --> 02:44:40,515
Terrible ones.

3512
02:44:40,548 --> 02:44:42,116
But yet you testified in here

3513
02:44:42,149 --> 02:44:44,519
that the bombing of Hiroshima
was very successful.

3514
02:44:44,552 --> 02:44:46,120
-Technically successful.
-ROBB: Oh!

3515
02:44:46,153 --> 02:44:47,921
Technically, it was
very successful.

3516
02:44:47,955 --> 02:44:49,423
And it is also alleged
to have helped end the war.

3517
02:44:49,456 --> 02:44:51,425
Would you have been
in support of the dropping

3518
02:44:51,458 --> 02:44:53,394
of a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima?

3519
02:44:53,427 --> 02:44:54,962
That would make no sense at all.

3520
02:44:54,995 --> 02:44:57,431
-Why?
-The-the target is too small.

3521
02:44:57,464 --> 02:44:59,967
Well, supposing there had been
a target in Japan

3522
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:01,468
big enough for
a thermonuclear weapon,

3523
02:45:01,502 --> 02:45:03,270
would you have been opposed
to the dropping of it?

3524
02:45:03,303 --> 02:45:05,139
This was not a problem
with which I was confronted...

3525
02:45:05,172 --> 02:45:06,608
Well, I'm confronting you
with it now, sir.

3526
02:45:06,641 --> 02:45:08,409
It was all part of his plan.

3527
02:45:08,442 --> 02:45:10,010
He wanted the glorious,

3528
02:45:10,043 --> 02:45:12,212
insincere guilt
of the self-important

3529
02:45:12,246 --> 02:45:13,715
to wear like a fuckin' crown.

3530
02:45:13,748 --> 02:45:17,184
Say, "No, we cannot
go down this road,"

3531
02:45:17,217 --> 02:45:20,020
even as he knew we'd have to.

3532
02:45:20,053 --> 02:45:21,589
Would you have been opposed
to the dropping

3533
02:45:21,623 --> 02:45:23,290
of a thermonuclear weapon
on Japan

3534
02:45:23,323 --> 02:45:25,560
-because of moral scruples?
-Yes, I believe I would, sir.

3535
02:45:25,593 --> 02:45:27,294
Well, did you oppose
the dropping

3536
02:45:27,327 --> 02:45:29,329
of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima
because of moral scruples?

3537
02:45:29,363 --> 02:45:30,998
-We set forth our arguments...
-(tense music building)

3538
02:45:31,031 --> 02:45:32,433
No, you, you, you.
I'm asking you.

3539
02:45:32,466 --> 02:45:34,101
-I set... I set forth...
-ROBB: Not we. You, you, you!

3540
02:45:34,134 --> 02:45:35,737
...our arguments
against dropping it,

3541
02:45:35,770 --> 02:45:37,304
but I did not endorse them.

3542
02:45:37,337 --> 02:45:39,039
You mean after
working night and day

3543
02:45:39,072 --> 02:45:40,441
for three years
building the bomb,

3544
02:45:40,474 --> 02:45:42,309
you then argued against
the use of it? (laughs)

3545
02:45:42,342 --> 02:45:45,045
I was asked
by the Secretary of War

3546
02:45:45,078 --> 02:45:46,447
what the views
of scientists were.

3547
02:45:46,480 --> 02:45:49,216
I gave him the views against
and the views for.

3548
02:45:49,249 --> 02:45:51,251
You supported the dropping
of the atom bomb on Japan.

3549
02:45:51,285 --> 02:45:52,754
-What do you mean "support"?
-ROBB: Didn't you?

3550
02:45:52,787 --> 02:45:54,254
-You supported it!
-What do you mean "support"?

3551
02:45:54,288 --> 02:45:55,623
Well, you helped
pick the target, didn't you?

3552
02:45:55,657 --> 02:45:57,291
-(muffled rumbling)
-I did my job.

3553
02:45:57,324 --> 02:45:59,059
I was not in a policy-making
position at Los Alamos.

3554
02:45:59,092 --> 02:46:00,728
I would have done anything
I was asked to do.

3555
02:46:00,762 --> 02:46:03,030
Well, then you would have
built the H-bomb too,

3556
02:46:03,063 --> 02:46:04,198
-wouldn't you?
-I couldn't.

3557
02:46:04,231 --> 02:46:06,133
I didn't ask you that, Doctor!

3558
02:46:06,166 --> 02:46:08,502
And the GAC report
which you co-authored

3559
02:46:08,536 --> 02:46:10,404
after the Soviet
atomic test said

3560
02:46:10,437 --> 02:46:13,106
a Super bomb
should never be built!

3561
02:46:13,140 --> 02:46:14,475
What we meant,
what I meant was...

3562
02:46:14,508 --> 02:46:16,578
-ROBB: What you, who? Who?
-What I meant...

3563
02:46:16,611 --> 02:46:18,312
(tense music continues)

3564
02:46:18,345 --> 02:46:19,781
And wouldn't the Russians
do anything

3565
02:46:19,814 --> 02:46:22,082
-to increase their strength?
-(music stops)

3566
02:46:22,115 --> 02:46:24,084
(raises voice): If we did it,
they would have to do it.

3567
02:46:24,117 --> 02:46:26,153
Our efforts would only
fuel their efforts,

3568
02:46:26,186 --> 02:46:28,288
just as it had
with the atomic bomb.

3569
02:46:28,322 --> 02:46:31,726
"Just as it had with
the atomic bomb," exactly!

3570
02:46:31,759 --> 02:46:36,497
No moral scruples in 1945,
plenty in 1949.

3571
02:46:40,635 --> 02:46:42,469
GRAY:
Dr. Oppenheimer...

3572
02:46:44,137 --> 02:46:46,741
...when did your strong
moral convictions develop

3573
02:46:46,774 --> 02:46:49,577
with respect
to the hydrogen bomb?

3574
02:46:56,618 --> 02:46:59,521
When it became clear to me

3575
02:46:59,554 --> 02:47:03,190
that we would tend to use
any weapon we had.

3576
02:47:05,627 --> 02:47:08,128
STRAUSS: <i>J. Robert Oppenheimer,</i>
<i>the martyr.</i>

3577
02:47:08,161 --> 02:47:10,765
I gave him exactly
what he wanted.

3578
02:47:10,798 --> 02:47:13,066
To be remembered for Trinity,

3579
02:47:13,100 --> 02:47:15,703
not Hiroshima,

3580
02:47:15,737 --> 02:47:18,171
not Nagasaki.

3581
02:47:20,708 --> 02:47:23,410
He should be thanking me.

3582
02:47:23,443 --> 02:47:26,380
Well, he's not.

3583
02:47:26,413 --> 02:47:28,181
(huffs)

3584
02:47:28,215 --> 02:47:29,817
Do we still have enough votes,

3585
02:47:29,851 --> 02:47:31,519
or is the crowning moment
of my career

3586
02:47:31,553 --> 02:47:35,690
about to become the most public
humiliation of my life?

3587
02:47:35,723 --> 02:47:38,292
Full Senate's about to vote.

3588
02:47:38,325 --> 02:47:39,493
You'll scrape through.

3589
02:47:39,527 --> 02:47:41,161
Great, then gather
the fucking press.

3590
02:47:41,194 --> 02:47:43,163
GRAY:
Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

3591
02:47:43,196 --> 02:47:46,166
This board, having heard
testimony from you

3592
02:47:46,199 --> 02:47:49,336
and many of your current
and former colleagues,

3593
02:47:49,369 --> 02:47:51,371
has come to
the unanimous conclusion

3594
02:47:51,405 --> 02:47:54,508
that you are a loyal citizen.

3595
02:47:55,810 --> 02:47:57,444
However,

3596
02:47:57,477 --> 02:48:01,114
in the light of
your continuing associations

3597
02:48:01,148 --> 02:48:02,416
and disregard

3598
02:48:02,449 --> 02:48:04,586
for the security apparatus
of this country,

3599
02:48:04,619 --> 02:48:08,155
together with your
somewhat disturbing conduct

3600
02:48:08,188 --> 02:48:10,725
on the hydrogen bomb program

3601
02:48:10,758 --> 02:48:12,292
and the regrettable
lack of candor

3602
02:48:12,326 --> 02:48:14,696
in certain of your responses
to this board,

3603
02:48:14,729 --> 02:48:17,599
we have voted two to one

3604
02:48:17,632 --> 02:48:20,735
to deny the renewal
of your security clearance.

3605
02:48:20,768 --> 02:48:23,871
A full written opinion,
with a dissent from Mr. Evans,

3606
02:48:23,905 --> 02:48:27,407
will be issued to the AEC
in the coming days.

3607
02:48:27,441 --> 02:48:29,109
That is all.

3608
02:48:32,880 --> 02:48:34,214
-ROBB: Gordon...
-GORDON: Roger.

3609
02:48:34,247 --> 02:48:36,116
(indistinct exchange)

3610
02:48:39,252 --> 02:48:41,154
KITTY:
<i>Robert.</i>

3611
02:48:41,789 --> 02:48:43,323
(on phone):
Robert.

3612
02:48:45,793 --> 02:48:47,294
Don't...

3613
02:48:49,664 --> 02:48:52,867
Don't take in the sheets.
(breathes heavily)

3614
02:48:52,900 --> 02:48:54,234
(clamoring)

3615
02:48:54,267 --> 02:48:55,670
REPORTER:
Get a picture with him.

3616
02:48:55,703 --> 02:48:56,938
REPORTERS:
Sir, sir.

3617
02:48:56,971 --> 02:48:59,439
SENATE AIDE:
Two minutes. Two minutes.

3618
02:48:59,473 --> 02:49:00,675
-You'll get your shot.
-REPORTER 1: Please, sir.

3619
02:49:00,708 --> 02:49:02,275
We've been waiting for so long.

3620
02:49:02,309 --> 02:49:03,310
-REPORTER 2: Evening, sir.
-REPORTER 3: Come out.

3621
02:49:03,343 --> 02:49:04,378
REPORTER 4:
Sir, sir!

3622
02:49:04,411 --> 02:49:05,747
STRAUSS:
Is it official?

3623
02:49:07,849 --> 02:49:09,249
SENATE AIDE:
Well, there were,

3624
02:49:09,282 --> 02:49:12,419
uh, a couple
of unexpected holdouts.

3625
02:49:12,452 --> 02:49:14,589
(solemn music playing)

3626
02:49:16,858 --> 02:49:19,527
I'm denied. Yeah?

3627
02:49:19,560 --> 02:49:21,529
-I'm afraid so, sir.
-All right.

3628
02:49:29,236 --> 02:49:30,303
Who were the holdouts?

3629
02:49:30,337 --> 02:49:33,273
Um, there were three,

3630
02:49:33,306 --> 02:49:36,243
led by the junior senator
from Massachusetts.

3631
02:49:36,276 --> 02:49:37,679
Young guy trying
to make a name for himself,

3632
02:49:37,712 --> 02:49:40,280
didn't like what you did
to Oppenheimer.

3633
02:49:40,313 --> 02:49:41,448
What's his name?

3634
02:49:41,481 --> 02:49:43,685
Uh, Kennedy.

3635
02:49:43,718 --> 02:49:45,520
John F. Kennedy.

3636
02:49:48,990 --> 02:49:50,390
Kitty?

3637
02:49:56,463 --> 02:49:59,867
Did you think that if you
let them tar and feather you,

3638
02:49:59,901 --> 02:50:02,469
that the world
would forgive you?

3639
02:50:06,007 --> 02:50:07,441
It won't.

3640
02:50:09,811 --> 02:50:11,211
We'll see.

3641
02:50:20,988 --> 02:50:22,990
Goddamn it.

3642
02:50:23,024 --> 02:50:24,491
(sighs)

3643
02:50:24,525 --> 02:50:27,461
(chuckles wryly)
You told me I'd be okay.

3644
02:50:27,494 --> 02:50:29,864
Yeah, well, I didn't have
all the facts, did I?

3645
02:50:29,897 --> 02:50:31,465
Here's a fact.

3646
02:50:31,498 --> 02:50:33,333
President Eisenhower pinned
the Medal of Freedom

3647
02:50:33,366 --> 02:50:34,802
on my chest last year

3648
02:50:34,836 --> 02:50:37,337
'cause I've always done
what's right for this country.

3649
02:50:37,370 --> 02:50:39,874
They don't want me
in the Cabinet room?

3650
02:50:39,907 --> 02:50:42,342
Well, that's... that's fine.

3651
02:50:42,375 --> 02:50:44,712
Maybe they should just
invite Oppenheimer instead.

3652
02:50:44,746 --> 02:50:45,780
Maybe they will.

3653
02:50:46,781 --> 02:50:48,015
I told you,

3654
02:50:48,049 --> 02:50:50,685
he turned the scientists
against me one by one,

3655
02:50:50,718 --> 02:50:52,887
starting with Einstein.
I told you about, uh, Einstein.

3656
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:54,354
I saw him by the pond.

3657
02:50:54,387 --> 02:50:55,890
You did, but you know, sir,

3658
02:50:55,923 --> 02:50:57,925
since nobody really knows

3659
02:50:57,959 --> 02:50:59,594
what they said
to each other that day,

3660
02:50:59,627 --> 02:51:03,664
is it possible they didn't
talk about you at all?

3661
02:51:03,698 --> 02:51:06,834
Is it possible they spoke
about something, uh,

3662
02:51:06,868 --> 02:51:08,301
more important?

3663
02:51:08,335 --> 02:51:09,771
REPORTERS:
Mr. Strauss!

3664
02:51:09,804 --> 02:51:11,505
(clamoring)

3665
02:51:13,107 --> 02:51:15,509
Over here! Mr. Strauss!

3666
02:51:18,646 --> 02:51:21,916
Oh. (chuckling)

3667
02:51:21,949 --> 02:51:23,050
(gentle music playing)

3668
02:51:23,084 --> 02:51:24,384
Thank you.

3669
02:51:24,417 --> 02:51:26,921
-(laughing)
-Albert.

3670
02:51:26,954 --> 02:51:28,923
-Ah.
-(clears throat)

3671
02:51:28,956 --> 02:51:31,458
The man of the moment.

3672
02:51:34,562 --> 02:51:37,932
You once held
a-a reception for me.

3673
02:51:37,965 --> 02:51:39,767
In Berkeley.
You gave me an award.

3674
02:51:39,801 --> 02:51:41,669
-Hmm?
-Yes.

3675
02:51:42,570 --> 02:51:44,972
You all thought that
I had lost the ability

3676
02:51:45,006 --> 02:51:47,942
to understand what I'd started.

3677
02:51:47,975 --> 02:51:51,411
So the award
really wasn't for me,

3678
02:51:51,444 --> 02:51:53,848
it was for all of you, hmm?

3679
02:51:55,716 --> 02:51:57,718
Now it's your turn

3680
02:51:57,752 --> 02:52:02,455
to deal with the consequences
of your achievement.

3681
02:52:03,390 --> 02:52:04,692
And one day,

3682
02:52:04,725 --> 02:52:07,360
when they've
punished you enough...

3683
02:52:08,763 --> 02:52:12,667
...they'll serve you
salmon and potato salad.

3684
02:52:16,403 --> 02:52:18,438
Make speeches...

3685
02:52:19,472 --> 02:52:20,975
<i>...give you a medal.</i>

3686
02:52:21,008 --> 02:52:22,643
(applause)

3687
02:52:22,677 --> 02:52:24,846
Hello, Frank.

3688
02:52:24,879 --> 02:52:26,113
You're happy, I'm happy.

3689
02:52:26,147 --> 02:52:28,649
(gentle music continues)

3690
02:52:33,087 --> 02:52:36,423
EINSTEIN: <i>Pat you on the back,</i>
<i>tell you all is forgiven.</i>

3691
02:52:37,959 --> 02:52:40,360
<i>Just remember...</i>

3692
02:52:40,995 --> 02:52:42,864
<i>...it won't be for you.</i>

3693
02:52:47,134 --> 02:52:48,769
<i>It'll be for them.</i>

3694
02:52:51,504 --> 02:52:53,741
(suspenseful music playing)

3695
02:53:02,917 --> 02:53:04,451
Albert.

3696
02:53:05,686 --> 02:53:09,156
When I came to you
with those calculations,

3697
02:53:09,190 --> 02:53:11,424
we thought we might
start a chain reaction

3698
02:53:11,458 --> 02:53:14,929
that would destroy
the entire world.

3699
02:53:14,962 --> 02:53:18,431
Mm, I remember it well.

3700
02:53:18,465 --> 02:53:20,534
What of it?

3701
02:53:23,170 --> 02:53:24,906
I believe we did.

3702
02:53:24,939 --> 02:53:27,208
(suspenseful music continues)

3703
02:53:27,241 --> 02:53:29,677
(rhythmic stomping)

3704
02:53:43,557 --> 02:53:45,458
(music tempo quickening)

3705
02:53:45,492 --> 02:53:47,628
(engine rumbling)

3706
02:53:54,669 --> 02:53:56,704
(up-tempo music continues)

3707
02:54:08,282 --> 02:54:10,685
(music fades out)

3708
02:54:13,287 --> 02:54:15,990
(sentimental music playing)

3709
02:54:45,953 --> 02:54:48,022
♪ ♪

3710
02:55:17,985 --> 02:55:20,054
♪ ♪

3711
02:55:50,017 --> 02:55:52,086
♪ ♪

3712
02:56:22,049 --> 02:56:24,118
♪ ♪

3713
02:56:54,081 --> 02:56:56,150
♪ ♪

3714
02:57:26,113 --> 02:57:28,182
♪ ♪

3715
02:57:58,145 --> 02:58:00,214
♪ ♪

3716
02:58:30,177 --> 02:58:32,246
♪ ♪

3717
02:59:02,209 --> 02:59:04,278
♪ ♪

3718
02:59:34,241 --> 02:59:36,310
♪ ♪

3719
03:00:06,273 --> 03:00:08,342
♪ ♪

3720
03:00:16,417 --> 03:00:18,819
(music fades)

3720
03:00:19,305 --> 03:01:19,550
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