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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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As we begin, I believe you have

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a statement to read
into the record.

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Yes, Your Honor.

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We're not judges, Doctor.

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No.

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Of course.

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Members of the security board,

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the so-called
derogatory information

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in your indictment of me
cannot be fairly understood,

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except in the context
of my life and my work.

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How long did he testify?

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Honestly, I forget.

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The whole hearing took a month.

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An ordeal, hmm?

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Well, I've only
read the transcripts.

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

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You weren't there?

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As chairman,
I wasn't allowed to be.

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Are they really
going to ask about it?

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- It was years ago.
- Four years ago...

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Five.

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Oppenheimer
still divides America.

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The committee is gonna want
to know where you stood.

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Senator Thurmond asked me to say

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not to feel that
you're on trial.

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Oh, funny, I didn't
till you just said that.

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- Really, Mr. Strauss...
- It's Admiral.

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Um, Admiral Strauss.
This is a formality.

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President Eisenhower has asked
you to be in his cabinet.

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Senate really has no choice
but to confirm you.

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And if they bring up
Oppenheimer?

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When they bring up Oppenheimer,
you answer honestly.

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No senator can deny
you did your duty.

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It'll be uncomfortable.

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

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Why did you leave
the United States?

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I, uh... I wanted to study
the new physics.

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Was there nowhere here?

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I thought Berkeley
had the leading

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theoretical physics department.

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Yes. Once I built it.

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But first I had to go to Europe.

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I went to Cambridge to study
under Patrick Blackett.

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Were you happier there
than in America?

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- Happier?
- Yes.

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No. No, I, uh...

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<i>I was homesick, um...</i>

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...emotionally immature...

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<i>...troubled by visions
of a hidden universe.</i>

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Useless in the lab.

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Christ, Oppenheimer.

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Have you had any sleep?

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Start again.

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I need to go
to the lecture, sir.

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Why?

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It's Niels Bohr.

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Damn, completely forgot.

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All right. Let's go.

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Oh, no, not you, Oppenheimer.

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You finish coating those plates.

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You see them?

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Don't forget to clean up!

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<i>Quantum physics
is not a step forward,</i>

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it is a new way
to understand reality.

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Einstein's opened the door,
now we are peering through,

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seeing a world inside our world.

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A world of energy and paradox
that not everyone can accept.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Are you all right?

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Niels, meet
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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What's the "J" stand for?

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Nothing, apparently.

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You were at my lecture.

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You asked
the only good question.

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No one's denying his insight.

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It's his laboratory work that
leaves a little to be desired.

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I heard
you give the same lecture...

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At Harvard, yes, and you
asked the same question.

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Why ask again?

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Hadn't liked your answer.

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Did you like it better
yesterday?

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A lot.

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You can lift the stone
without being ready

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for the snake that's revealed.

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Now it seems you're ready.

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But you don't enjoy the lab?

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So get out of Cambridge
with its beakers and potions.

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Go somewhere they let you think.

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Where?

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Göttingen.

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- Born?
- Born.

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Get to Germany,
study under Max Born.

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Learn the ways of theory.

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I'll send word.

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Wormhole.

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How's your mathematics?

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Not good enough for
the physicist he wants to be.

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Algebra's like sheet music.

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The important thing isn't
"Can you read music?"

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It's "Can you hear it?"

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Can you hear the music, Robert?

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Yes, I can.

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The senator from Wyoming.

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Admiral Strauss, I'm interested
in your relationship

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with Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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You met him in 1947?

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Correct.

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You were commissioner

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of the Atomic Energy Commission?

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I was, but I-I actually
met Robert in my capacity

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as board member of the
Institute for Advanced Study

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at Princeton because

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after the war,
he was world-renowned

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as the great man of physics,
and I was determined

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to get him to run the Institute.

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Dr. Oppenheimer. An honor.

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Mr. Strauss.

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It's pronounced "straws."

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Oh-ppenheimer, Oppenheimer.

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Whatever way you say it,
they know I'm Jewish.

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I'm president of Temple Emanu-El
in Manhattan.

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"Straws" is just
the Southern pronunciation.

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- Ah.
- Anyway,

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welcome to the Institute.

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I think you could be
very happy here.

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Yes, well,
you'll love the commute.

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The position comes
with that house

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for you and your wife

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and your, is it two children?

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Yes, two.

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I'm a great admirer
of your work.

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And you're a physicist
by training, Mr. Strauss?

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I'm sorry, uh,
common room 4:00 tea.

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No, I'm not trained in physics
or anything else.

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- I'm a self-made man.
- Ah.

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- I can relate to that.
- Really?

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Yes, my father was one.

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And this would be your office.

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I'm told he's there
most afternoons.

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You know, I've always wondered

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why you didn't involve him
in the Manhattan Project.

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Greatest scientific mind
of our time.

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Of his time.

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Einstein published
his Theory of Relativity

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more than 40 years ago now.

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But never embraced
the quantum world it revealed.

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"God doesn't play dice."

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Precisely.

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You never thought of studying
physics formally, Mr. Strauss?

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Well, I had offers,
but I chose to sell shoes.

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Lewis Strauss was once
a lowly shoe salesman.

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No, just a shoe salesman.

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Huh.

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- I'd love to introduce you.
- No need.

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I have known him for years.

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Albert.

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What was that?
What did you say to him?

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Oh, he's fine.

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Mr. Strauss,
there are things in my past

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you ought to be aware of.

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Well, as chairman of the AEC,

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I have access
to your security file.

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I've read it.

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- You're not worried?
- No.

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Why would I be worried
after everything

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you've done for your country?

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Well, times change, Mr. Strauss.

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Well, the purpose
of this institute

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is to provide a haven
for independent minds.

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That's you.
You are the man for the job.

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Well, then I'll consider it.

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I'll see you
at the AEC meeting tomorrow.

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This is one
of the most prestigious

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appointments in the country.

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Yes, with a great commute.

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That's why I'm considering it.

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<i>So, Dr. Oppenheimer brought</i>

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<i>your attention
to his past associations</i>

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<i>before you appointed him?</i>

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Yes.

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And it didn't concern you?

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Just then,
I was entirely consumed

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with what he must have said
to Einstein to sour him on me.

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But later?

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Well, we all know
what happened later.

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Doctor, your, uh...
your time in Europe,

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you seemed to meet
with a wide range

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of other countries' physicists.

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Yes, that's right.

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Any Russians?

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None that spring to mind.

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If you'll just allow me to
continue with my statement...

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Mr. Robb, you'll have ample
opportunity to cross-examine.

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After Göttingen,
I moved on to Leiden in Holland

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<i>where I first met Isidor Rabi.</i>

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Excuse me.

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A Yank,
lecturing on the new physics?

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This I have to hear.

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I'm an American myself.

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How surprising.

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Um...

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Let me know if you need
any help with the English.

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Wait, what's he saying?

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No, thank you.

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It's a long way to Zurich.

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You get any skinnier,
we're gonna lose you

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between the seat cushions.

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I'm Rabi.

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Oppenheimer.

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I caught your lecture
on molecules.

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Caught some of it.

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We're a couple of New York Jews.
How do you know Dutch?

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Well, I thought
I'd better learn it

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when I got here this semester.

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You learned enough Dutch
in six weeks

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to give a lecture
on quantum mechanics?

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Wanted to challenge myself.

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Quantum physics wasn't
challenging enough.

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<i>- Schvitzer.
- Schvitzer?</i>

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Show-off.

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Dutch in six weeks,
but you never learned Yiddish?

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They don't speak it so much
my side of the park.

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Screw you.

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You homesick?

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Oh, you know it.

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Ever get the feeling our kind
isn't entirely welcome here?

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Physicists?

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'S funny.

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Not in the department.

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They're all Jewish too.

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Eat.

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There's a German
you have to seek out.

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- Heisenberg.
- Right.

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One might be led
to the presumption

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that behind the quantum world,

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there still hides a real world
in which causality holds,

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but such speculation seem to us,

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to say it explicitly, fruitless.
Thank you.

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Have a great day.

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- Wonderful.
- Thank you.

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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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Oppenheimer, yes.

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I liked your paper on molecules.

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Probably because
you inspired it.

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If I inspire anything else,
let me know.

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We could publish together.

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I have to get back to America.

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Why? There's no one there

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taking quantum mechanics
seriously.

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That's exactly why.

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He's pining for the canyons
of Manhattan.

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Canyons of New Mexico.

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- You're from New Mexico?
- No.

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New York, but my brother
and I have a ranch

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outside Santa Fe.

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That's the America
I miss right now.

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Then it's best you get home,
cowboys.

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That's him.

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No, me and horses.
I don't think so.

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00:16:17,745 --> 00:16:19,880
Nice to meet you.

264
00:16:21,615 --> 00:16:23,751
Did you ever encounter
Heisenberg again?

265
00:16:23,784 --> 00:16:26,687
Not in person, no, but, uh...

266
00:16:27,922 --> 00:16:30,025
...you might say
our paths crossed.

267
00:16:31,592 --> 00:16:33,794
On returning to America,
I accepted positions

268
00:16:33,828 --> 00:16:36,564
at both Caltech
and up at Berkeley.

269
00:16:40,268 --> 00:16:41,902
I got it, it's all right.

270
00:17:00,621 --> 00:17:02,656
Dr. Lawrence, I presume?

271
00:17:04,059 --> 00:17:05,293
You must be Oppenheimer.

272
00:17:05,327 --> 00:17:06,861
Yes.

273
00:17:06,894 --> 00:17:09,231
I hear you want to start
a school of quantum theory.

274
00:17:09,264 --> 00:17:10,931
I am starting it. Next door.

275
00:17:10,965 --> 00:17:12,800
- They put you in there?
- I asked for it.

276
00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:14,902
Wanted to be close
to you experimentalists.

277
00:17:14,935 --> 00:17:17,305
Theory will get you
only so far, huh?

278
00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:19,307
We're building a machine
to accelerate electrons.

279
00:17:19,341 --> 00:17:22,044
- Magnificent.
- Would you like to help?

280
00:17:22,077 --> 00:17:23,911
Build it? Oh, no.

281
00:17:23,944 --> 00:17:25,047
No, no.

282
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,648
But I am working on theories
I'd like to test with it.

283
00:17:27,681 --> 00:17:28,682
When do you start teaching?

284
00:17:28,716 --> 00:17:30,584
I've got my first in an hour.

285
00:17:30,618 --> 00:17:32,620
- Seminar?
- Pupil.

286
00:17:32,653 --> 00:17:35,890
One student? That's it?

287
00:17:35,923 --> 00:17:38,659
I'm teaching something
no one here has dreamt of.

288
00:17:38,692 --> 00:17:40,694
But once people start hearing
what you can do with it...

289
00:17:40,728 --> 00:17:42,197
There's no going back.

290
00:17:44,366 --> 00:17:46,667
- Oh. I must have missed the...
- Ah. Lo...

291
00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:48,702
- Mr. Lomanitz?
- Na.

292
00:17:49,904 --> 00:17:50,805
Yeah.

293
00:17:50,838 --> 00:17:52,940
Yes, this is it. Please.

294
00:17:52,973 --> 00:17:54,042
Take a seat.

295
00:17:58,913 --> 00:18:00,714
What do you know
about quantum mechanics?

296
00:18:00,748 --> 00:18:03,118
I have a grasp on the basics.

297
00:18:03,151 --> 00:18:04,718
Then you're doing it wrong.

298
00:18:05,953 --> 00:18:08,223
Is light made up
of particles or waves?

299
00:18:08,256 --> 00:18:09,391
Quantum mechanics
says it's both.

300
00:18:09,424 --> 00:18:11,026
How could it be both?

301
00:18:11,059 --> 00:18:12,960
- It can't.
- It can't.

302
00:18:12,993 --> 00:18:17,865
But it is. It's paradoxical,
and yet, it works.

303
00:18:25,006 --> 00:18:26,007
Now.

304
00:18:27,875 --> 00:18:29,844
Thank you.

305
00:18:29,877 --> 00:18:32,880
Mr. Lomanitz.
You're gonna be okay.

306
00:18:32,913 --> 00:18:34,282
Mr. Snyder.

307
00:18:34,316 --> 00:18:35,850
Now let's consider a star.

308
00:18:35,883 --> 00:18:39,421
A star. A vast furnace
burning in outer space,

309
00:18:39,454 --> 00:18:42,857
fire pushing outwards
against its own gravity.

310
00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:44,326
Balanced.

311
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,660
But if that furnace cools...

312
00:18:48,029 --> 00:18:50,031
...and gravity starts winning,
it contracts.

313
00:18:51,032 --> 00:18:51,999
Density increases.

314
00:18:52,033 --> 00:18:53,235
Correct.

315
00:18:53,268 --> 00:18:54,436
Increasing gravity.

316
00:18:54,469 --> 00:18:55,970
Increasing density.

317
00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:58,140
- And?
- It's a vicious cycle until...

318
00:18:58,173 --> 00:18:59,807
what's the limit here?

319
00:19:00,975 --> 00:19:03,211
I don't know.
See where the math takes us.

320
00:19:03,245 --> 00:19:05,013
I guarantee it's somewhere
no one's been before.

321
00:19:05,046 --> 00:19:06,947
Me?

322
00:19:06,981 --> 00:19:09,151
Yes, you.
Your math is better than mine.

323
00:19:10,885 --> 00:19:12,987
<i>Dr. Oppenheimer's file</i>

324
00:19:13,021 --> 00:19:15,423
<i>contained detail
of his activities in Berkeley.</i>

325
00:19:15,457 --> 00:19:16,924
Why would they have
started a file

326
00:19:16,957 --> 00:19:19,894
on Dr. Oppenheimer
before the war?

327
00:19:19,927 --> 00:19:22,397
Well, you'd have
to ask Mr. Hoover.

328
00:19:22,430 --> 00:19:24,299
I'm asking you, Admiral Strauss.

329
00:19:24,332 --> 00:19:27,269
Uh, my assumption is that

330
00:19:27,302 --> 00:19:30,438
it was connected to his, uh,

331
00:19:30,472 --> 00:19:33,008
left-wing political activities.

332
00:19:34,109 --> 00:19:35,776
You shouldn't
let them bring up politics

333
00:19:35,809 --> 00:19:37,145
in the classroom, Oppie.

334
00:19:37,179 --> 00:19:38,913
I wrote that.

335
00:19:38,946 --> 00:19:42,217
Lawrence, you embrace
the revolution in physics.

336
00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:44,052
Can't you see it
everywhere else?

337
00:19:44,085 --> 00:19:46,188
Picasso, Stravinsky,
Freud, Marx.

338
00:19:46,221 --> 00:19:47,821
Well, this is America, Oppie.

339
00:19:47,855 --> 00:19:49,224
We had our revolution.

340
00:19:50,358 --> 00:19:52,860
Seriously,
keep it out of the lab.

341
00:19:52,893 --> 00:19:55,996
Well, out of the lab,
my landlady

342
00:19:56,031 --> 00:19:58,832
is having a discussion group
tonight. Interested?

343
00:19:58,866 --> 00:20:00,935
I have sampled
the Berkeley political scene.

344
00:20:00,968 --> 00:20:03,004
It's all just
philosophy post-grads

345
00:20:03,038 --> 00:20:05,340
and Communists
talking integration.

346
00:20:05,373 --> 00:20:07,042
You don't care
about integration.

347
00:20:07,075 --> 00:20:08,943
I want to vote for it,
not talk about it.

348
00:20:08,976 --> 00:20:10,978
'Specially on a Friday.
Come on, let's eat.

349
00:20:11,012 --> 00:20:13,348
I'm meeting my brother there.

350
00:20:13,381 --> 00:20:15,250
<i>And how would these activities</i>

351
00:20:15,283 --> 00:20:16,418
<i>have come to the attention</i>

352
00:20:16,451 --> 00:20:17,452
of the FBI?

353
00:20:17,485 --> 00:20:19,454
Well, if I remember correctly,

354
00:20:19,487 --> 00:20:21,423
the FBI was taking
license plates

355
00:20:21,456 --> 00:20:23,791
outside suspected
Communist gatherings,

356
00:20:23,824 --> 00:20:25,826
<i>and his name popped up.</i>

357
00:20:33,401 --> 00:20:34,935
- Gotcha!
- Jesus Christ.

358
00:20:34,969 --> 00:20:37,272
- Sorry. Hi, brother.
- Frank.

359
00:20:38,273 --> 00:20:40,008
Uh, you remember Jackie.

360
00:20:40,041 --> 00:20:41,509
Evening.

361
00:20:41,543 --> 00:20:43,511
Let's go. Come.

362
00:20:43,545 --> 00:20:46,114
Right over there,
right over there.

363
00:20:47,048 --> 00:20:50,051
Robert. I want you
to meet Chevalier.

364
00:20:50,085 --> 00:20:53,787
Dr. Haakon Chevalier,
Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.

365
00:20:53,821 --> 00:20:54,989
- Pleasure.
- Pleasure.

366
00:20:55,023 --> 00:20:56,324
This is my little brother,
Frank.

367
00:20:56,358 --> 00:20:57,559
- And this is...
- Hello.

368
00:20:57,592 --> 00:20:59,527
- Still Jackie.
- Hello, Still Jackie.

369
00:20:59,561 --> 00:21:01,529
Chevalier, you're in languages?

370
00:21:01,563 --> 00:21:03,298
And your reputation
precedes you.

371
00:21:03,331 --> 00:21:05,066
- What have you heard?
- Excuse me.

372
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,867
That you're teaching a radical
new approach to physics

373
00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,136
I have no chance
of understanding,

374
00:21:08,169 --> 00:21:09,537
but I hadn't heard
you're a Party member.

375
00:21:09,571 --> 00:21:11,872
- Uh, I'm not.
- Oh, not yet.

376
00:21:11,905 --> 00:21:13,874
Frank and I are thinking of
joining. Just the other day,

377
00:21:13,907 --> 00:21:15,543
- I was saying...
- I support a range of causes.

378
00:21:15,577 --> 00:21:17,212
The Spanish Civil War?

379
00:21:17,245 --> 00:21:18,979
A democratic republic
being overthrown

380
00:21:19,014 --> 00:21:20,315
by fascist thugs, who wouldn't?

381
00:21:20,348 --> 00:21:22,017
Our government.

382
00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:23,518
They think that socialism is
a bigger threat than fascism.

383
00:21:23,551 --> 00:21:25,053
Not for long.

384
00:21:25,086 --> 00:21:26,887
Look at what the Nazis
are doing to the Jews.

385
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,491
I send funds to colleagues
in Germany to emigrate.

386
00:21:29,524 --> 00:21:31,559
I have to do something.

387
00:21:31,593 --> 00:21:34,962
My own work is so abstract.

388
00:21:34,995 --> 00:21:36,564
What are you working on?

389
00:21:36,598 --> 00:21:38,533
What happens to the stars
when they die.

390
00:21:38,566 --> 00:21:40,000
Do stars die?

391
00:21:41,202 --> 00:21:42,504
Well, if they do,

392
00:21:42,537 --> 00:21:44,439
they'd cool, then collapse.

393
00:21:44,472 --> 00:21:47,108
In fact, the bigger the star,

394
00:21:47,142 --> 00:21:49,843
<i>the more violent its demise.</i>

395
00:21:49,877 --> 00:21:51,413
The gravity gets so concentrated

396
00:21:51,446 --> 00:21:54,416
it swallows everything.

397
00:21:54,449 --> 00:21:55,417
Everything, even light.

398
00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:56,618
Can that really happen?

399
00:21:56,651 --> 00:21:58,453
The math says it can.

400
00:21:58,486 --> 00:21:59,920
If we can get published,

401
00:21:59,953 --> 00:22:01,523
then perhaps one day,
an astronomer finds one.

402
00:22:01,556 --> 00:22:03,291
But right now,
all I have is theory,

403
00:22:03,325 --> 00:22:05,193
which can't impact
people's lives.

404
00:22:05,226 --> 00:22:07,495
Well, if you're going
to send money to Spain,

405
00:22:07,529 --> 00:22:09,097
do it through
the Communist Party.

406
00:22:09,130 --> 00:22:10,465
They can get it
to the front lines.

407
00:22:10,498 --> 00:22:12,900
Mary sent me with these.

408
00:22:13,601 --> 00:22:16,404
- I'm Jean.
- Robert.

409
00:22:16,438 --> 00:22:17,938
Haakon Chevalier.

410
00:22:17,971 --> 00:22:19,507
The union meeting at Serber's
last month?

411
00:22:19,541 --> 00:22:20,941
Right, right, yes.

412
00:22:20,974 --> 00:22:22,344
Oh, thank you.

413
00:22:22,377 --> 00:22:24,612
Robert here says
he's not a Communist.

414
00:22:24,646 --> 00:22:26,947
Well, then he doesn't know
enough about it.

415
00:22:26,980 --> 00:22:29,351
Oh, I've read <i>Das Kapital,</i>
all three volumes.

416
00:22:29,384 --> 00:22:31,019
Does that count?

417
00:22:31,052 --> 00:22:33,021
It would make you better read
than most party members.

418
00:22:33,054 --> 00:22:35,357
Turgid stuff.
There's some thinking, um,

419
00:22:35,390 --> 00:22:36,558
"Ownership is theft."

420
00:22:36,591 --> 00:22:38,493
- "Property."
- "Property"?

421
00:22:38,526 --> 00:22:40,328
"Property," not "ownership."

422
00:22:40,362 --> 00:22:42,397
I'm sorry, I read it
in the original German.

423
00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:45,100
Well.

424
00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:47,335
It's not about the book.

425
00:22:47,369 --> 00:22:50,372
It's about the ideas.
And you sound uncommitted.

426
00:22:50,405 --> 00:22:52,040
Well, I'm committed
to thinking freely

427
00:22:52,073 --> 00:22:54,509
about how to improve our world.

428
00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:56,644
Why limit yourself to one dogma?

429
00:22:56,678 --> 00:22:59,647
You're a physicist,
you pick and choose rules?

430
00:22:59,681 --> 00:23:01,249
Or do you use the discipline

431
00:23:01,282 --> 00:23:03,418
to channel your energies
into progress?

432
00:23:03,451 --> 00:23:05,854
I like a little wiggle room.

433
00:23:06,954 --> 00:23:09,157
Do you always
tow the party line?

434
00:23:10,525 --> 00:23:12,293
I like my wiggle room too.

435
00:23:22,437 --> 00:23:24,972
What?

436
00:23:25,006 --> 00:23:26,174
Wait, wait, wait.

437
00:23:30,078 --> 00:23:31,679
Unexpected.

438
00:23:31,713 --> 00:23:33,615
- What?
- For a physicist.

439
00:23:33,648 --> 00:23:36,418
You only have a shelf
full of Freud?

440
00:23:36,451 --> 00:23:39,320
Well, actually,
my background's more...

441
00:23:39,354 --> 00:23:41,189
Uh, Jungian?

442
00:23:42,323 --> 00:23:43,425
You know analysis?

443
00:23:43,458 --> 00:23:45,993
When I was in post-grad
at Cambridge,

444
00:23:46,027 --> 00:23:47,328
I had a little trouble.

445
00:23:48,329 --> 00:23:51,065
- I'll bite.
- I tried to poison my tutor.

446
00:23:51,099 --> 00:23:52,100
Did you hate him?

447
00:23:52,133 --> 00:23:53,601
I liked him very much.

448
00:23:53,635 --> 00:23:55,537
You just needed to get laid.

449
00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:57,138
Took my analyst two years,

450
00:23:57,172 --> 00:23:59,107
and I don't think they
ever put it that succinctly.

451
00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:00,475
You have everyone convinced

452
00:24:00,508 --> 00:24:03,244
you're more complicated
than you actually are.

453
00:24:03,278 --> 00:24:05,280
We're all simple souls, I guess.

454
00:24:05,313 --> 00:24:06,481
I'm not.

455
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:10,385
What's this?

456
00:24:10,418 --> 00:24:11,985
Sanskrit.

457
00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:13,321
You can read this?

458
00:24:13,354 --> 00:24:15,156
I'm learning.

459
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,162
Read this.

460
00:24:22,597 --> 00:24:24,232
Well, in this part,

461
00:24:24,265 --> 00:24:26,468
Vishnu reveals
his multi-armed self...

462
00:24:26,501 --> 00:24:27,502
No.

463
00:24:28,570 --> 00:24:30,438
Read the words.

464
00:24:33,808 --> 00:24:36,977
"And now I am become Death."

465
00:24:42,417 --> 00:24:44,152
"Destroyer of worlds."

466
00:25:15,083 --> 00:25:16,417
This'll do.

467
00:25:22,557 --> 00:25:24,158
It'll break before dawn.

468
00:25:24,192 --> 00:25:27,562
Air cools overnight,
just before dawn, it breaks.

469
00:25:30,231 --> 00:25:32,166
Come.

470
00:25:38,206 --> 00:25:41,676
Ah. So, I'm getting married.

471
00:25:41,709 --> 00:25:43,311
- Frank. Congratulations!
- Thank you.

472
00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,146
- Thank you.
- To Jackie?

473
00:25:45,179 --> 00:25:47,549
Yeah, to Jackie.

474
00:25:47,582 --> 00:25:48,683
The waitress.

475
00:25:48,716 --> 00:25:50,685
Oppie, you're right.
It's lettin' up.

476
00:25:50,718 --> 00:25:53,154
I'm gonna go see
if there's any stars.

477
00:25:53,187 --> 00:25:55,223
All your talk
about the common man,

478
00:25:55,256 --> 00:25:56,758
but Jackie's not good enough
for you, hmm?

479
00:25:56,791 --> 00:25:57,825
Mm-mm.

480
00:25:57,859 --> 00:25:59,360
We join the Party and you can't

481
00:25:59,394 --> 00:26:01,162
- hide your disapproval. Why?
- Oh, now, I...

482
00:26:01,195 --> 00:26:02,263
Is that because that's
supposed to be your thing?

483
00:26:02,297 --> 00:26:03,831
I haven't joined
the Party, Frank.

484
00:26:03,865 --> 00:26:06,401
And I don't think she should
have convinced you to either.

485
00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:08,169
Half of the faculty
is Communist.

486
00:26:08,202 --> 00:26:09,270
Not that half.

487
00:26:10,605 --> 00:26:13,341
I'm your brother, Frank,
and I want you to be cautious.

488
00:26:13,374 --> 00:26:15,076
And I want to wring your neck.

489
00:26:17,478 --> 00:26:20,381
I won't live my life
afraid to make a mistake.

490
00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:25,587
You're happy, I'm happy.

491
00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:27,155
So then I'm happy you're happy

492
00:26:27,188 --> 00:26:28,523
that I'm happy.

493
00:26:32,794 --> 00:26:34,395
I feel like I could see

494
00:26:34,429 --> 00:26:36,531
one of those dark stars
that you're working on.

495
00:26:36,564 --> 00:26:39,133
You can't.
That's the whole point.

496
00:26:39,801 --> 00:26:41,502
Their gravity swallows light.

497
00:26:42,770 --> 00:26:45,840
It's like a kind of
hole in space.

498
00:26:45,873 --> 00:26:47,208
Is Frank okay?

499
00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,644
Yes. He just has
a shitty brother.

500
00:26:50,778 --> 00:26:52,447
It is special here.

501
00:26:54,816 --> 00:26:57,285
When I was a kid,

502
00:26:57,318 --> 00:27:00,355
I thought if I could find a way

503
00:27:00,388 --> 00:27:04,759
to combine physics
and New Mexico,

504
00:27:04,792 --> 00:27:07,328
my life would be perfect.

505
00:27:08,396 --> 00:27:09,664
Little remote for that.

506
00:27:09,697 --> 00:27:10,832
Yes.

507
00:27:10,865 --> 00:27:12,533
Let's get some sleep.

508
00:27:13,501 --> 00:27:14,902
That mesa we saw today,

509
00:27:14,936 --> 00:27:17,438
one of my favorite places
in the world.

510
00:27:18,272 --> 00:27:19,741
And tomorrow we'll climb it.

511
00:27:19,774 --> 00:27:21,209
What's it called?

512
00:27:22,243 --> 00:27:24,312
Los Alamos.

513
00:27:27,415 --> 00:27:29,417
I didn't expect
to see you today.

514
00:27:30,585 --> 00:27:32,420
Do I have to make
an appointment?

515
00:27:34,355 --> 00:27:36,491
Hey! Hey, get back here!

516
00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:37,659
Alvarez?

517
00:27:43,431 --> 00:27:46,267
Oppie! Oppie!

518
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:48,302
What? What is it?

519
00:27:48,336 --> 00:27:49,937
They've done it.
They've done it.

520
00:27:49,971 --> 00:27:51,239
Hahn and Strassmann in Germany.

521
00:27:51,272 --> 00:27:53,441
They split the uranium nucleus.

522
00:27:54,308 --> 00:27:56,177
How?

523
00:27:56,911 --> 00:27:58,813
Bombard it with neutrons.

524
00:27:58,846 --> 00:27:59,981
It's a nuclear fission.

525
00:28:00,015 --> 00:28:01,649
They did it,
they split the atom.

526
00:28:01,683 --> 00:28:03,251
It's not possible.

527
00:28:09,390 --> 00:28:11,192
I'm gonna try to reproduce it.

528
00:28:17,832 --> 00:28:19,767
See? Can't be done.

529
00:28:20,868 --> 00:28:24,272
Very elegant. Quite clear.

530
00:28:24,305 --> 00:28:26,941
- There's just one problem.
- Where?

531
00:28:26,974 --> 00:28:28,776
Next door.

532
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:30,745
Alvarez did it.

533
00:28:30,778 --> 00:28:32,914
But then look...

534
00:28:32,947 --> 00:28:36,284
...these fission pulses,
they're massive.

535
00:28:36,317 --> 00:28:39,587
I've seen 30 of these
in the past ten minutes.

536
00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:42,457
Theory will take you
only so far.

537
00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:45,960
During the process...

538
00:28:45,993 --> 00:28:47,729
extra neutrons boil off,

539
00:28:47,762 --> 00:28:50,932
which could be used to split
other uranium atoms.

540
00:28:50,965 --> 00:28:52,366
Chain reaction.

541
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,036
You're thinkin'
what I'm thinkin'.

542
00:28:54,069 --> 00:28:56,838
You, me, and every other
physicist around the world

543
00:28:56,871 --> 00:28:58,372
who's seen the news.

544
00:28:59,074 --> 00:29:00,875
I'm... what?
What are we all thinking?

545
00:29:00,908 --> 00:29:04,679
A bomb, Alvarez.

546
00:29:05,847 --> 00:29:07,548
A bomb.

547
00:29:07,582 --> 00:29:10,785
I told you, Robert,
no more fucking flowers.

548
00:29:12,386 --> 00:29:13,921
I don't understand
what you want from me.

549
00:29:13,955 --> 00:29:15,723
I don't want anything from you.

550
00:29:16,724 --> 00:29:18,760
Well, you say that
and then you call.

551
00:29:18,793 --> 00:29:21,395
Well, don't answer.

552
00:29:21,429 --> 00:29:23,431
I'll always answer.

553
00:29:28,703 --> 00:29:29,637
Fine.

554
00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:32,373
Just no more flowers.

555
00:29:33,407 --> 00:29:34,776
You're not coming?

556
00:29:35,943 --> 00:29:38,746
You have to know
when you're beaten, Robert.

557
00:29:41,049 --> 00:29:42,784
It's not that simple, Hoke.

558
00:29:42,817 --> 00:29:44,986
Chevalier,
good to see you. It's...

559
00:29:45,020 --> 00:29:46,354
Ah, Barbara, good to see you

560
00:29:46,387 --> 00:29:48,856
and the illustrious
Dr. Oppenheimer.

561
00:29:48,890 --> 00:29:50,058
I'm Eltenton.

562
00:29:50,092 --> 00:29:51,459
- Oh, pleasure.
- Please, please.

563
00:29:51,492 --> 00:29:52,660
Now, might you say a word

564
00:29:52,693 --> 00:29:55,429
about organized labor
on campuses, yes?

565
00:29:55,463 --> 00:29:56,998
Coming through! Coming through!

566
00:29:57,032 --> 00:29:58,599
- F.A.E.C.T.!
- I work at Shell.

567
00:29:58,633 --> 00:30:00,635
We've signed up chemists,
we've signed up engineers,

568
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:02,537
so why not scientists
in academia?

569
00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:05,473
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

570
00:30:05,506 --> 00:30:08,776
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

571
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:10,444
Oppie! Oppie!

572
00:30:10,478 --> 00:30:13,381
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

573
00:30:16,551 --> 00:30:20,521
Teachers are unionized.
Why not professors?

574
00:30:20,555 --> 00:30:21,989
Don't you have somewhere to be?

575
00:30:22,024 --> 00:30:23,858
Lawrence,
academics have rights too.

576
00:30:23,891 --> 00:30:26,394
Look, it's not that.
I've got a group coming.

577
00:30:26,427 --> 00:30:29,630
- Well, I'll sit in.
- Not this one.

578
00:30:35,903 --> 00:30:37,572
Richard. Dr. Bush.

579
00:30:37,605 --> 00:30:39,674
What brings you two up north?

580
00:30:49,151 --> 00:30:50,518
Richard, you tell Ruth

581
00:30:50,551 --> 00:30:51,819
I'll be down
to Pasadena Thursday.

582
00:31:00,828 --> 00:31:03,464
Your paper on black holes is in!

583
00:31:03,497 --> 00:31:05,466
Oppie!

584
00:31:05,499 --> 00:31:09,137
Where's Hartland?
Get Hartland. Get Hartland.

585
00:31:09,171 --> 00:31:11,439
September 1st, 1939,

586
00:31:11,472 --> 00:31:13,708
the world's gonna
remember this day.

587
00:31:14,642 --> 00:31:16,111
Oh, Hartland.
Our paper, it's in print.

588
00:31:16,144 --> 00:31:18,880
You've been upstaged.

589
00:31:22,483 --> 00:31:25,020
During the Battle of Britain,
I found myself

590
00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:27,788
increasingly out of sympathy
with the

591
00:31:27,822 --> 00:31:30,825
policy of neutrality
that Communists advocated.

592
00:31:30,858 --> 00:31:34,662
Right after Hitler invaded
Russia and we became allies,

593
00:31:34,695 --> 00:31:36,731
these Communist sympathies,
did they return?

594
00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:37,798
No.

595
00:31:38,933 --> 00:31:42,536
I need to make clear that
my changing views on Russia

596
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:43,804
did not mean a sharp break

597
00:31:43,838 --> 00:31:45,907
from those who held
different views.

598
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:48,509
For a year or two,
and during a previous marriage,

599
00:31:48,542 --> 00:31:51,846
my wife Kitty had been
a Communist Party member.

600
00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:55,816
Oop!

601
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:57,652
This way. This is where
I keep the good stuff.

602
00:31:57,685 --> 00:31:59,687
Well, I thought
this was the Tolmans' house.

603
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,923
I live with them
while I'm at Caltech.

604
00:32:01,956 --> 00:32:03,457
Do you two need anything?

605
00:32:03,491 --> 00:32:04,959
We're good, Ruthie.

606
00:32:06,061 --> 00:32:08,696
So, you're a biologist.

607
00:32:08,729 --> 00:32:11,933
Well, somehow
I have graduated to housewife.

608
00:32:11,966 --> 00:32:15,103
Can you explain
quantum mechanics to me?

609
00:32:15,137 --> 00:32:16,171
Seems baffling.

610
00:32:16,204 --> 00:32:17,905
Yes, it is.

611
00:32:19,007 --> 00:32:21,809
Well, this glass,

612
00:32:21,842 --> 00:32:22,743
this drink...

613
00:32:22,777 --> 00:32:25,880
...this countertop,

614
00:32:25,913 --> 00:32:29,017
uh, our bodies...

615
00:32:29,051 --> 00:32:30,952
all of it.

616
00:32:30,985 --> 00:32:33,554
It's mostly empty space.

617
00:32:33,587 --> 00:32:36,091
Groupings of tiny energy waves
bound together.

618
00:32:36,124 --> 00:32:37,992
By what?

619
00:32:38,026 --> 00:32:41,595
Forces of attraction
strong enough to convince us

620
00:32:41,629 --> 00:32:43,831
that matter is solid.

621
00:32:43,864 --> 00:32:47,001
Stop my body
passing through yours.

622
00:32:58,746 --> 00:33:00,248
You're married to Dr. Harrison.

623
00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,017
Not very.

624
00:33:04,052 --> 00:33:07,755
There is someone that I feel...

625
00:33:07,788 --> 00:33:09,224
Does she feel the same way?

626
00:33:09,257 --> 00:33:13,095
Sometimes. Not enough.

627
00:33:14,296 --> 00:33:17,265
You know,
I'm going to New Mexico.

628
00:33:17,299 --> 00:33:19,101
To my ranch, with friends.

629
00:33:19,134 --> 00:33:20,501
You should come.

630
00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:23,138
I meant with your husband.

631
00:33:23,171 --> 00:33:24,739
Yes, you did.

632
00:33:24,772 --> 00:33:27,675
'Cause you know it won't make
a bit of difference.

633
00:33:31,645 --> 00:33:33,148
Why did you marry him?

634
00:33:33,181 --> 00:33:36,717
I was lost and he was kind.

635
00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:39,754
Lost?

636
00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:43,291
Well, my previous husband
had died, and...

637
00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,760
at 28, I wasn't really ready
to be a widow.

638
00:33:45,793 --> 00:33:47,795
- Who was your first husband?
- Nobody.

639
00:33:47,828 --> 00:33:50,298
But my second husband
was Joe Dallet.

640
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:53,301
He was, um, from money,
like me, but...

641
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:56,271
he was a union organizer
in Youngstown, Ohio.

642
00:33:56,304 --> 00:33:57,571
Fell hard.

643
00:33:57,605 --> 00:33:58,873
How hard?

644
00:33:58,906 --> 00:34:00,574
Hard enough to spend
the next four years

645
00:34:00,608 --> 00:34:01,942
living off beans and pancakes,

646
00:34:01,976 --> 00:34:04,745
handing out the <i>Daily Worker</i>
at factory gates.

647
00:34:04,779 --> 00:34:07,282
By 36, I just told Joe
I couldn't take it anymore.

648
00:34:07,315 --> 00:34:09,184
Quit the Party and a year later,

649
00:34:09,217 --> 00:34:12,753
I wanted him back, so...
Him, not the <i>Daily Worker.</i>

650
00:34:12,787 --> 00:34:14,922
And he said, "Swell, I'll meet
you on my way to Spain."

651
00:34:14,955 --> 00:34:16,657
He went to fight
for the Loyalists?

652
00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:18,793
And then he went to
the brigades and I waited.

653
00:34:18,826 --> 00:34:19,894
And...

654
00:34:20,761 --> 00:34:22,130
Joe got himself killed

655
00:34:22,164 --> 00:34:24,565
first time he popped his head
out of the trench.

656
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:28,336
Ideology got Joe killed.
For nothing.

657
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,238
Spanish Republic isn't nothing.

658
00:34:30,272 --> 00:34:31,373
My husband offered
both our futures

659
00:34:31,406 --> 00:34:32,873
to stop one fascist bullet

660
00:34:32,907 --> 00:34:35,077
from embedding itself
in a mudbank.

661
00:34:35,976 --> 00:34:37,812
That's the definition
of nothing.

662
00:34:37,845 --> 00:34:39,847
Seems a little reductive.

663
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,615
Pragmatic.

664
00:34:41,649 --> 00:34:44,086
Now here I am.

665
00:34:46,321 --> 00:34:47,922
Wherever the hell this is.

666
00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:58,233
I didn't want you to hear it
from anyone else.

667
00:35:00,668 --> 00:35:04,005
Least you didn't
bring me flowers.

668
00:35:09,144 --> 00:35:12,713
We both know I'm not
what you want, Jean.

669
00:35:13,747 --> 00:35:16,384
Yeah, but it's a door closing.

670
00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:17,818
No.

671
00:35:19,387 --> 00:35:21,755
Not as far as I'm concerned, no.

672
00:35:22,957 --> 00:35:24,692
You knocked her up, fast work.

673
00:35:24,725 --> 00:35:27,362
Can't keep a good man down.

674
00:35:27,395 --> 00:35:29,397
I meant her.

675
00:35:29,431 --> 00:35:31,433
She knew what she wanted.

676
00:35:31,466 --> 00:35:33,401
What about the husband?

677
00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:34,902
We talked, um,

678
00:35:34,935 --> 00:35:36,871
they're getting a divorce, so...

679
00:35:36,904 --> 00:35:40,674
we can get married
before she starts showing.

680
00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:42,177
How civilized.

681
00:35:44,146 --> 00:35:45,247
You idiot.

682
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,048
This is your community.

683
00:35:47,082 --> 00:35:50,018
You think the rules
don't apply to the golden boy?

684
00:35:51,186 --> 00:35:52,820
Brilliance makes up for a lot.

685
00:35:52,853 --> 00:35:55,357
Don't alienate the only people
in the world

686
00:35:55,390 --> 00:35:57,058
that understand what you do.

687
00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:00,162
One day you might need them.

688
00:36:00,195 --> 00:36:02,930
F.A.E.C.T.!

689
00:36:02,963 --> 00:36:04,166
The Federation of Architects,

690
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,335
Engineers, Chemists
and Technicians.

691
00:36:13,774 --> 00:36:16,311
Lomanitz,
what do you get paid a month?

692
00:36:16,344 --> 00:36:17,479
That's not the point, Lawrence.

693
00:36:17,512 --> 00:36:19,813
What do any of you
have in common

694
00:36:19,847 --> 00:36:22,450
with farm laborers
and dock workers?

695
00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:24,052
Plenty.

696
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,656
Everybody out. Now!

697
00:36:31,493 --> 00:36:32,893
Not you.

698
00:36:38,832 --> 00:36:39,800
What are you doing?

699
00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:41,503
It's a trade union.

700
00:36:41,536 --> 00:36:43,471
Filled with Communists.

701
00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:45,207
So? I haven't joined the Party.

702
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,342
They won't let me
bring you onto the project

703
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:49,077
because of this shit.

704
00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:50,878
They won't even let me
tell you what the project is.

705
00:36:50,911 --> 00:36:53,348
Oh. I know what the project is.

706
00:36:53,381 --> 00:36:54,449
Oh, really?

707
00:36:54,482 --> 00:36:55,783
We've all heard about Einstein

708
00:36:55,816 --> 00:36:57,085
and Szilard's letter
to Roosevelt

709
00:36:57,118 --> 00:36:58,919
warning him the Germans
could make a bomb,

710
00:36:58,953 --> 00:37:01,822
and I know what it means
for the Nazis to have a bomb.

711
00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:03,225
Oh, and I don't?

712
00:37:03,258 --> 00:37:05,893
It's not your people
they're herding into camps.

713
00:37:06,994 --> 00:37:07,995
It's mine.

714
00:37:08,029 --> 00:37:11,166
You think that I tell them
about your politics.

715
00:37:12,267 --> 00:37:14,835
The next time you're
coming home from a meeting,

716
00:37:14,868 --> 00:37:16,904
why don't you take a look
in the rearview mirror?

717
00:37:16,937 --> 00:37:19,007
Listen to the sounds
on your phone line

718
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,110
and stop being so goddamn naive.

719
00:37:23,411 --> 00:37:24,945
Why would they care what I do?

720
00:37:24,979 --> 00:37:26,947
Because you're
not just self-important,

721
00:37:26,981 --> 00:37:29,150
you're actually important.

722
00:37:30,385 --> 00:37:31,752
Okay.

723
00:37:32,387 --> 00:37:35,390
Okay. I get it.

724
00:37:35,423 --> 00:37:37,492
If you could
just be a little more...

725
00:37:37,525 --> 00:37:39,027
Pragmatic.

726
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:40,161
I'll talk to Lomanitz,
I'll talk to the others,

727
00:37:40,195 --> 00:37:42,297
you don't have to worry.
It's done.

728
00:37:42,330 --> 00:37:44,099
Lawrence.

729
00:37:48,936 --> 00:37:50,938
Then welcome to the war.

730
00:37:50,971 --> 00:37:53,275
I filled out my first
security questionnaire

731
00:37:53,308 --> 00:37:54,576
and was informed

732
00:37:54,609 --> 00:37:56,411
that my involvement
with left-wing groups

733
00:37:56,444 --> 00:38:00,382
would not prove a bar to my
working on the atomic program.

734
00:38:00,415 --> 00:38:03,151
<i>Why were
his Communist associations</i>

735
00:38:03,184 --> 00:38:06,288
not seen as a security risk
during the war?

736
00:38:06,321 --> 00:38:08,056
Senator, I can't possibly answer

737
00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:11,426
for security clearance granted
years before I ever met the man.

738
00:38:11,459 --> 00:38:13,461
Fine. What about after?

739
00:38:13,495 --> 00:38:15,430
After the war, Dr. Oppenheimer

740
00:38:15,463 --> 00:38:19,234
was the most respected
scientific voice in the world.

741
00:38:19,267 --> 00:38:21,303
That's why I asked him
to run the Institute,

742
00:38:21,336 --> 00:38:24,439
that's why he advised
the Atomic Energy Commission.

743
00:38:24,472 --> 00:38:25,540
Simple as that.

744
00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:28,176
What are they accusing me of?

745
00:38:28,209 --> 00:38:29,977
I think they just want
to know what happened

746
00:38:30,011 --> 00:38:32,514
between 1947 and 1954
to change your mind

747
00:38:32,547 --> 00:38:34,582
on Oppenheimer's
security clearance.

748
00:38:34,616 --> 00:38:37,352
I didn't.
I was chair of the AEC,

749
00:38:37,385 --> 00:38:40,954
but it wasn't me that brought
the charges against Robert.

750
00:38:40,988 --> 00:38:42,223
- Who did?
- Some former staff member

751
00:38:42,257 --> 00:38:44,192
of the Joint
Congressional Committee.

752
00:38:44,225 --> 00:38:47,295
He was a rabid anti-Communist
named Borden.

753
00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:49,631
He wrote to the FBI
demanding they take action.

754
00:38:49,664 --> 00:38:52,200
The FBI? Why not go
to the AEC, direct?

755
00:38:52,233 --> 00:38:54,935
Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?

756
00:38:54,968 --> 00:38:57,405
What did Borden have
against Oppenheimer?

757
00:38:57,439 --> 00:38:59,274
This was the McCarthy Era.

758
00:38:59,307 --> 00:39:04,212
People hounded out of jobs
for any hint of red. And then,

759
00:39:04,245 --> 00:39:05,913
<i>reading Oppenheimer's
security file,</i>

760
00:39:05,946 --> 00:39:08,116
<i>his Communist brother,
sister-in-law,</i>

761
00:39:08,149 --> 00:39:10,218
<i>fiancée, best friend, wife.</i>

762
00:39:10,251 --> 00:39:12,587
That's before we even
get to the Chevalier incident.

763
00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:16,358
But how would Borden have access
to Oppenheimer's security file?

764
00:39:16,391 --> 00:39:18,059
Because somebody gave it to him.

765
00:39:19,227 --> 00:39:21,895
Somebody who wanted
Robert silenced.

766
00:39:21,929 --> 00:39:23,531
- Who?
- Who knows?

767
00:39:23,565 --> 00:39:26,101
Robert didn't take care
not to upset

768
00:39:26,134 --> 00:39:28,370
the power brokers in Washington.

769
00:39:28,403 --> 00:39:31,272
His opinions on the atom
became definitive

770
00:39:31,306 --> 00:39:34,209
and he wasn't always patient
with us mere mortals.

771
00:39:37,612 --> 00:39:40,048
I came in for plenty
of harsh treatment.

772
00:39:40,081 --> 00:39:43,251
There was an AEC vote

773
00:39:43,284 --> 00:39:45,253
on the export of isotopes
to Norway,

774
00:39:45,286 --> 00:39:48,256
<i>and they drafted in Robert
to make me look like a fool.</i>

775
00:39:48,289 --> 00:39:49,990
But, Dr. Oppenheimer,

776
00:39:50,024 --> 00:39:52,127
we've already heard
from Admiral Strauss that

777
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,995
these isotopes could be
useful to our enemies

778
00:39:55,029 --> 00:39:56,331
in the production
of atomic weapons.

779
00:39:56,364 --> 00:39:58,233
Congressmen,
you could use a shovel

780
00:39:58,266 --> 00:39:59,701
in making atomic weapons.

781
00:39:59,734 --> 00:40:00,934
In fact, you do.

782
00:40:00,968 --> 00:40:02,504
You could use a bottle of beer

783
00:40:02,537 --> 00:40:03,937
in making atomic weapons.

784
00:40:03,971 --> 00:40:05,440
In fact, you do.

785
00:40:05,473 --> 00:40:08,410
I say isotopes are less useful
than electronic components

786
00:40:08,443 --> 00:40:11,212
but more useful than a sandwich.

787
00:40:14,449 --> 00:40:16,317
<i>Genius is
no guarantee of wisdom.</i>

788
00:40:17,318 --> 00:40:20,088
How could this man
who saw so much be so blind?

789
00:40:29,597 --> 00:40:31,032
Kitty?

790
00:40:35,737 --> 00:40:37,672
Kitty?

791
00:40:37,705 --> 00:40:41,109
Kitty, the project...

792
00:40:42,076 --> 00:40:44,679
I'm in. I'm in.

793
00:40:44,712 --> 00:40:46,481
Let's celebrate.

794
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,721
Shouldn't you go to him?

795
00:40:58,326 --> 00:41:01,496
I have been going to him
all fucking day.

796
00:41:25,253 --> 00:41:26,987
Come here, darling.

797
00:41:28,089 --> 00:41:29,657
I don't know how to say this.

798
00:41:29,691 --> 00:41:32,393
I'm... I'm ashamed to ask.

799
00:41:32,427 --> 00:41:34,362
Anything.

800
00:41:34,395 --> 00:41:35,196
Take Peter.

801
00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:38,266
- Sure.
- No, for-for a while, Hoke.

802
00:41:38,299 --> 00:41:40,268
A while.

803
00:41:41,836 --> 00:41:43,638
Does Kitty know you're here?

804
00:41:43,671 --> 00:41:45,406
Yes, of course she knows.

805
00:41:46,274 --> 00:41:48,276
Of course she knows.

806
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:52,013
We're awful people.
Selfish, awful people.

807
00:41:53,515 --> 00:41:54,516
Forget I asked.

808
00:41:54,549 --> 00:41:56,384
Selfish, awful people,

809
00:41:56,417 --> 00:41:58,820
they don't know
they're selfish and awful.

810
00:41:58,853 --> 00:42:01,422
Sit, sit, sit.

811
00:42:02,457 --> 00:42:06,561
Robert, you see beyond
the world we live in.

812
00:42:08,263 --> 00:42:10,832
There is a price
to be paid for that.

813
00:42:10,865 --> 00:42:12,433
Of course we'll help you.

814
00:42:23,378 --> 00:42:25,547
Everything's changing, Robert.

815
00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:27,549
Having a child was always
going to change...

816
00:42:27,582 --> 00:42:31,686
No, the world, it's pivoting
in some new direction.

817
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,122
It's reforming.

818
00:42:35,890 --> 00:42:37,592
This is your moment.

819
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,428
We're putting together a group
to study feasibility...

820
00:42:40,461 --> 00:42:43,264
"We" shouldn't be
doing anything. You should.

821
00:42:44,165 --> 00:42:46,301
Lawrence won't get this done.

822
00:42:46,334 --> 00:42:48,469
Or Tolman or Rabi. You will.

823
00:42:57,312 --> 00:42:59,447
Who are the uniforms?

824
00:43:00,248 --> 00:43:02,150
I thought you might know.

825
00:43:03,184 --> 00:43:05,453
Dr. Oppenheimer.

826
00:43:05,486 --> 00:43:07,455
I'm Colonel Groves.

827
00:43:07,488 --> 00:43:09,724
This is Lieutenant
Colonel Nichols.

828
00:43:09,757 --> 00:43:11,259
Have that dry-cleaned.

829
00:43:17,165 --> 00:43:19,233
Well, if that's how you treat
Lieutenant Colonel,

830
00:43:19,267 --> 00:43:22,637
I'd hate to see how you treat
a humble physicist.

831
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:24,739
Ah, if I ever meet one,
I'll let you know.

832
00:43:24,772 --> 00:43:26,274
Ouch.

833
00:43:26,307 --> 00:43:27,875
Theaters of combat
all over the world,

834
00:43:27,909 --> 00:43:29,844
but I have to stay
in Washington.

835
00:43:29,877 --> 00:43:32,580
- Why?
- I built the Pentagon.

836
00:43:32,614 --> 00:43:35,249
The brass likes it so much
they made me take over

837
00:43:35,283 --> 00:43:37,418
the Manhattan Engineer District.

838
00:43:37,452 --> 00:43:38,586
Which is?

839
00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:41,889
Oh, don't be a smart ass.
You know damn well what it is.

840
00:43:41,923 --> 00:43:43,625
You and half of every
physics department

841
00:43:43,658 --> 00:43:46,494
across the country.
That's problem number one.

842
00:43:46,527 --> 00:43:48,262
I thought problem
number one would be

843
00:43:48,296 --> 00:43:49,564
securing enough uranium ore.

844
00:43:49,597 --> 00:43:52,700
1,200 tons bought
the day I took charge.

845
00:43:52,734 --> 00:43:53,901
Processing?

846
00:43:53,935 --> 00:43:56,137
Just broke ground
at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.

847
00:43:56,938 --> 00:43:58,640
Now I'm looking
for a project director.

848
00:43:58,673 --> 00:44:00,775
And my name came up?

849
00:44:00,808 --> 00:44:01,876
Nope.

850
00:44:03,012 --> 00:44:05,246
Even though you brought
quantum physics to America.

851
00:44:05,279 --> 00:44:06,648
Which made me curious.

852
00:44:06,681 --> 00:44:08,549
What have you found out?

853
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:11,953
You're a dilettante,
a womanizer,

854
00:44:11,986 --> 00:44:13,321
a suspected Communist...

855
00:44:13,354 --> 00:44:14,756
I'm a New Deal Democrat.

856
00:44:14,789 --> 00:44:16,391
I said "suspected."

857
00:44:16,424 --> 00:44:20,662
Unstable, theatrical,
egotistical, neurotic...

858
00:44:20,695 --> 00:44:21,729
Nothing good, no?

859
00:44:21,763 --> 00:44:23,431
Not even
"he's brilliant, but..."

860
00:44:23,464 --> 00:44:25,266
Well, brilliance is taken
for granted

861
00:44:25,299 --> 00:44:26,801
in your circle, so no.

862
00:44:26,834 --> 00:44:28,803
No, the only person who had
anything good to say

863
00:44:28,836 --> 00:44:30,571
was Richard Tolman.

864
00:44:30,605 --> 00:44:32,707
Tolman thinks
you have integrity,

865
00:44:32,740 --> 00:44:34,876
but he also strikes me as a guy

866
00:44:34,909 --> 00:44:37,278
who knows more about
science than people.

867
00:44:37,311 --> 00:44:41,282
Yet here you are.
You don't take much on trust.

868
00:44:41,315 --> 00:44:43,317
I don't take anything on trust.

869
00:44:46,888 --> 00:44:48,623
Why don't you
have a Nobel Prize?

870
00:44:48,656 --> 00:44:49,724
Why aren't you a general?

871
00:44:49,757 --> 00:44:50,925
They're making me one for this.

872
00:44:50,958 --> 00:44:52,326
Perhaps I'll have the same luck.

873
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,961
A Nobel Prize for making a bomb?

874
00:44:53,995 --> 00:44:56,330
Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.

875
00:44:58,766 --> 00:45:00,401
So how would you proceed?

876
00:45:01,903 --> 00:45:04,605
You're talking
about turning theory

877
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,808
into a practical weapons system

878
00:45:06,841 --> 00:45:07,975
faster than the Nazis.

879
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:09,744
Who have a 12-month head start.

880
00:45:09,777 --> 00:45:10,912
Eighteen.

881
00:45:10,945 --> 00:45:12,313
How could you possibly
know that?

882
00:45:12,346 --> 00:45:14,382
Our fast neutron research
took six months.

883
00:45:14,415 --> 00:45:15,917
The man they've
undoubtedly put in charge

884
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:17,351
will have made
that leap instantly.

885
00:45:17,385 --> 00:45:18,586
Who do you think
they put in charge?

886
00:45:18,619 --> 00:45:19,721
Werner Heisenberg.

887
00:45:19,754 --> 00:45:22,323
He has the most intuitive
understanding

888
00:45:22,356 --> 00:45:24,026
of atomic structure
I have ever seen.

889
00:45:24,059 --> 00:45:25,760
- You know his work?
- I know him.

890
00:45:25,793 --> 00:45:27,628
<i>Just like I know Walther Bothe,
von Weizsäcker, Diebner.</i>

891
00:45:27,662 --> 00:45:30,465
In a straight race,
the Germans win.

892
00:45:30,498 --> 00:45:33,234
- We've got one hope.
- Which is?

893
00:45:33,835 --> 00:45:35,470
Anti-Semitism.

894
00:45:36,604 --> 00:45:37,605
What?

895
00:45:37,638 --> 00:45:40,475
Hitler called quantum physics
"Jewish science."

896
00:45:40,508 --> 00:45:42,343
Said it right
to Einstein's face.

897
00:45:42,376 --> 00:45:45,613
Our one hope is that Hitler
is so... so blinded by hate

898
00:45:45,646 --> 00:45:47,448
that he's denied Heisenberg
proper resources,

899
00:45:47,482 --> 00:45:49,417
because it'll take
vast resources.

900
00:45:49,450 --> 00:45:50,985
Our nation's best scientists
working together.

901
00:45:51,019 --> 00:45:52,420
Right now, they're scattered.

902
00:45:52,453 --> 00:45:54,056
Which gives us
compartmentalization.

903
00:45:54,089 --> 00:45:55,957
All minds have
to see the whole task

904
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:57,358
to contribute efficiently.

905
00:45:57,391 --> 00:45:59,627
Poor security
may cost us the race.

906
00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:01,496
Inefficiency will.

907
00:46:01,529 --> 00:46:03,364
The Germans know
more than us anyway.

908
00:46:03,397 --> 00:46:05,500
The Russians don't.

909
00:46:05,533 --> 00:46:09,470
Remind me,
who are we at war with?

910
00:46:09,504 --> 00:46:11,939
Somebody with your past
doesn't want to be seen

911
00:46:11,973 --> 00:46:13,574
downplaying the importance

912
00:46:13,608 --> 00:46:16,344
of security from
our Communist allies.

913
00:46:16,377 --> 00:46:19,047
Point taken. But, no.

914
00:46:19,081 --> 00:46:21,382
You don't get to say "no" to me.

915
00:46:21,415 --> 00:46:23,684
It's my job to say "no" to you
when you're wrong.

916
00:46:23,718 --> 00:46:25,720
So you have the job now?

917
00:46:25,753 --> 00:46:27,822
Uh, I'm considering it.

918
00:46:30,525 --> 00:46:32,860
I'm starting to see
where you got your reputation.

919
00:46:34,062 --> 00:46:36,497
My favorite response,

920
00:46:36,531 --> 00:46:38,866
"Oppenheimer couldn't
run a hamburger stand."

921
00:46:40,835 --> 00:46:41,636
I couldn't.

922
00:46:43,671 --> 00:46:45,840
But I can run
the Manhattan Project.

923
00:46:46,707 --> 00:46:48,876
There's a way
to balance these things.

924
00:46:48,910 --> 00:46:53,115
Keep the Rad Lab here
at Berkeley under Lawrence.

925
00:46:53,148 --> 00:46:55,416
Met Lab in Chicago,
under Szilard.

926
00:46:55,449 --> 00:46:57,885
Large-scale refining,
where did you say? Tennessee.

927
00:46:57,919 --> 00:46:59,587
- And Hanford.
- And Hanford.

928
00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:03,691
All America's industrial might
and scientific innovation,

929
00:47:03,724 --> 00:47:05,093
connected by rail.

930
00:47:05,127 --> 00:47:06,794
Focused on one goal.

931
00:47:06,828 --> 00:47:09,530
One point in space and time.
And it comes together here.

932
00:47:09,564 --> 00:47:11,866
<i>A secret laboratory.
In the middle of nowhere,</i>

933
00:47:11,899 --> 00:47:13,367
<i>secure, self-sufficient,</i>

934
00:47:13,401 --> 00:47:14,769
equipment, housing, the works.

935
00:47:14,802 --> 00:47:16,971
Keep everyone there
until it's done.

936
00:47:17,005 --> 00:47:19,041
It'll need a school,
stores, a church.

937
00:47:19,074 --> 00:47:20,508
Why?

938
00:47:20,541 --> 00:47:21,843
<i>If we don't let scientists</i>

939
00:47:21,876 --> 00:47:23,578
bring their families,
we'll never get the best.

940
00:47:23,611 --> 00:47:25,680
You want security,
build a town, build it fast.

941
00:47:25,713 --> 00:47:26,781
Where?

942
00:47:30,785 --> 00:47:32,753
Welcome to Los Alamos.

943
00:47:32,787 --> 00:47:35,590
Now, there's a boys school
we'll have to commandeer,

944
00:47:35,623 --> 00:47:37,592
and the local Indians come
up here for burial rites.

945
00:47:37,625 --> 00:47:40,862
But, apart from that, nothing.
Forty miles. Any direction.

946
00:47:40,895 --> 00:47:42,830
Enough to find the perfect spot.

947
00:47:42,864 --> 00:47:45,366
- For?
- Success.

948
00:47:50,638 --> 00:47:52,640
Build him a town. Fast.

949
00:47:53,674 --> 00:47:56,178
Let's go recruit
some scientists.

950
00:47:56,211 --> 00:47:58,546
Why would I leave my family?

951
00:47:58,579 --> 00:48:00,015
I told you,
you can bring your family.

952
00:48:00,048 --> 00:48:01,482
I'm not a soldier, Oppie.

953
00:48:01,515 --> 00:48:03,618
A soldier? He's a general.

954
00:48:03,651 --> 00:48:05,486
I've got all the soldier I need.

955
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,089
What can I tell them?

956
00:48:07,122 --> 00:48:09,457
Heisenberg, Diebner,
Bothe and Bohr.

957
00:48:09,490 --> 00:48:10,791
What do these men
have in common?

958
00:48:10,825 --> 00:48:12,827
The greatest minds
on atomic theory.

959
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:14,196
- Yes, and?
- Uh...

960
00:48:14,229 --> 00:48:17,498
As much as you like,

961
00:48:17,531 --> 00:48:19,667
until you feel my boot
on your balls.

962
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:22,470
You know isotopes
and you know explosives

963
00:48:22,503 --> 00:48:23,804
better than anyone in the world.

964
00:48:23,838 --> 00:48:26,440
But you can't tell us
what you're doing?

965
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:31,746
- I don't know.
- The Nazis have them.

966
00:48:31,779 --> 00:48:33,915
- Niels Bohr's in Copenhagen.
- Under Nazi occupation.

967
00:48:33,948 --> 00:48:35,816
Did they stop printing
newspapers in Princeton?

968
00:48:35,850 --> 00:48:38,186
Why would we go
to the middle of nowhere

969
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:39,687
for who knows how long?

970
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,822
For a year or two. Or three.

971
00:48:42,823 --> 00:48:46,427
Uh, General, could you
give us a moment?

972
00:48:47,495 --> 00:48:50,564
It's about unleashing
the strong force...

973
00:48:51,699 --> 00:48:53,101
...before the Nazis do.

974
00:48:53,135 --> 00:48:55,070
Oh, my God.

975
00:48:55,103 --> 00:48:56,204
Niels won't work for the Nazis.

976
00:48:56,238 --> 00:48:57,538
No, never.

977
00:48:57,571 --> 00:48:59,874
But while they have him,
we don't.

978
00:48:59,907 --> 00:49:01,076
That's why I need you.

979
00:49:01,109 --> 00:49:03,078
Why would you think I'd do that?

980
00:49:03,111 --> 00:49:04,946
"Why?" "Why?"

981
00:49:04,979 --> 00:49:07,182
How about because this is the
most important fucking thing

982
00:49:07,215 --> 00:49:09,217
to ever happen
in the history of the world.

983
00:49:09,251 --> 00:49:10,685
How about that?

984
00:49:11,253 --> 00:49:12,687
Fuck.

985
00:49:17,625 --> 00:49:19,994
They are not gonna
let me onto this project.

986
00:49:20,028 --> 00:49:22,097
And failing a security check
is not gonna be good

987
00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:23,798
for a career,
even after the war.

988
00:49:23,831 --> 00:49:26,600
So you're a fellow traveler.
So what?

989
00:49:26,634 --> 00:49:28,002
This is a national emergency.

990
00:49:28,036 --> 00:49:31,206
I've got some skeletons,
they put me in charge.

991
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,540
They need us.

992
00:49:32,573 --> 00:49:34,742
Until they don't.

993
00:49:37,812 --> 00:49:40,215
Is there any chance of getting
Bohr out of Denmark?

994
00:49:40,248 --> 00:49:43,251
Nah, no dice.
I checked with the British.

995
00:49:43,285 --> 00:49:45,586
Until we get Allied boots
back onto the continent,

996
00:49:45,619 --> 00:49:47,022
there's just no way.

997
00:49:48,556 --> 00:49:49,991
Is he that important?

998
00:49:50,025 --> 00:49:53,061
How many people do you know
who proved Einstein wrong?

999
00:49:54,129 --> 00:49:56,231
You know, it really would
be quicker to take a plane.

1000
00:49:56,264 --> 00:49:57,999
No, plane's too risky.

1001
00:49:58,033 --> 00:50:00,501
Country needs us.

1002
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:03,971
The Harvard guys,

1003
00:50:04,006 --> 00:50:06,574
they say the building's
too small for the cyclotron.

1004
00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:10,711
Get them together
with the architects.

1005
00:50:13,914 --> 00:50:15,916
When's this place
supposed to open?

1006
00:50:19,021 --> 00:50:19,820
Two months.

1007
00:50:20,955 --> 00:50:23,225
Robert, you're
the great improviser,

1008
00:50:23,258 --> 00:50:25,293
but this...

1009
00:50:25,327 --> 00:50:26,927
you can't do in your head.

1010
00:50:27,962 --> 00:50:29,563
Four divisions.

1011
00:50:30,698 --> 00:50:34,302
Experimental, Theoretical,
Metallurgical, Ordnance.

1012
00:50:34,336 --> 00:50:35,303
Who's running Theoretical?

1013
00:50:35,337 --> 00:50:36,737
I am.

1014
00:50:36,771 --> 00:50:37,972
That's what I was afraid of.

1015
00:50:38,006 --> 00:50:39,874
You're spread too thin.

1016
00:50:41,076 --> 00:50:42,777
So you take Theoretical.

1017
00:50:45,347 --> 00:50:48,582
I'm not coming here, Robert.

1018
00:50:54,222 --> 00:50:55,890
Why not?

1019
00:51:01,762 --> 00:51:05,833
You drop a bomb and it falls
on the just and the unjust.

1020
00:51:07,102 --> 00:51:09,737
I don't wish the culmination
of three centuries of physics

1021
00:51:09,770 --> 00:51:12,174
to be a weapon
of mass destruction.

1022
00:51:21,383 --> 00:51:22,716
Izzy.

1023
00:51:23,851 --> 00:51:27,988
I don't know if we can
be trusted with such a weapon.

1024
00:51:29,357 --> 00:51:32,660
But I know the Nazis can't.

1025
00:51:36,064 --> 00:51:38,866
We have no choice.

1026
00:51:40,268 --> 00:51:41,702
Then...

1027
00:51:43,038 --> 00:51:45,407
...the second thing
you'll have to do is appoint.

1028
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,708
Hans Bethe to run
the Theoretical division.

1029
00:51:50,078 --> 00:51:51,912
Wait, what was the first?

1030
00:51:51,946 --> 00:51:54,416
Take off
that ridiculous uniform.

1031
00:51:54,449 --> 00:51:55,649
You're a scientist.

1032
00:51:55,683 --> 00:51:57,285
Groves is insisting we join.

1033
00:51:57,319 --> 00:51:59,753
Tell Groves to go
shit in his hat.

1034
00:51:59,787 --> 00:52:03,258
They need us for who we are.
So be yourself.

1035
00:52:03,291 --> 00:52:05,260
Only better.

1036
00:52:44,299 --> 00:52:46,334
This is the only key.

1037
00:52:46,368 --> 00:52:47,801
And Teller's already here.

1038
00:52:47,835 --> 00:52:49,703
Shall I just show him in?

1039
00:52:49,737 --> 00:52:51,406
No, let's wait for the others.

1040
00:52:59,347 --> 00:53:00,348
Let's get started.

1041
00:53:00,382 --> 00:53:02,450
Hello, Edward.

1042
00:53:02,484 --> 00:53:04,186
Yes.

1043
00:53:04,219 --> 00:53:05,920
Gentlemen, so, we will work here

1044
00:53:05,953 --> 00:53:08,956
until the T-section
at Los Alamos is finished.

1045
00:53:08,989 --> 00:53:11,293
- Edward, can I please...
- It is more important.

1046
00:53:13,361 --> 00:53:15,330
When I calculated
the chain reaction,

1047
00:53:15,363 --> 00:53:18,066
I found a rather
troubling possibility.

1048
00:53:18,099 --> 00:53:20,202
No.

1049
00:53:20,235 --> 00:53:21,469
But this can't be right.

1050
00:53:21,503 --> 00:53:23,438
Show me how
you did your calculations.

1051
00:53:23,471 --> 00:53:24,872
Yes.

1052
00:53:28,376 --> 00:53:29,444
It's exponential.

1053
00:53:29,477 --> 00:53:31,946
No. No, no, no. No.

1054
00:53:34,482 --> 00:53:36,484
This is fantasy.

1055
00:53:36,518 --> 00:53:38,786
Teller's calculations
can't be right.

1056
00:53:38,819 --> 00:53:41,489
Do them yourself
while I go to Princeton.

1057
00:53:41,523 --> 00:53:43,358
- What for?
- To talk to Einstein.

1058
00:53:43,391 --> 00:53:45,960
Well, there's not much
common ground between you two.

1059
00:53:45,993 --> 00:53:49,030
That's why
I should get his view.

1060
00:53:52,467 --> 00:53:54,469
- Albert.
- Hmm?

1061
00:53:54,502 --> 00:53:57,405
Ah. Dr. Oppenheimer.

1062
00:53:57,439 --> 00:53:58,906
Well, have you met Dr. Gödel?

1063
00:53:58,939 --> 00:54:00,508
We walk here most days.

1064
00:54:00,542 --> 00:54:05,347
Trees are the most
inspiring structures.

1065
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:06,847
Albert, might I have a word?

1066
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,285
Of course. 'Scuse me, Kurt.

1067
00:54:11,286 --> 00:54:14,222
You know, some days,
Kurt refuses to eat.

1068
00:54:14,256 --> 00:54:15,856
Even in Princeton.

1069
00:54:15,889 --> 00:54:18,993
He's convinced that the Nazis
can poison his food.

1070
00:54:19,027 --> 00:54:20,295
Mm.

1071
00:54:20,328 --> 00:54:22,163
Hmm? Huh.

1072
00:54:24,032 --> 00:54:25,866
Wha...

1073
00:54:30,405 --> 00:54:33,241
Whose... Whose work is this?

1074
00:54:33,275 --> 00:54:34,309
Teller's.

1075
00:54:35,443 --> 00:54:37,911
What do you take it to mean?

1076
00:54:37,945 --> 00:54:39,880
Neutrons smash into nucleus,

1077
00:54:39,913 --> 00:54:43,951
releasing neutrons
to smash into other nuclei.

1078
00:54:43,984 --> 00:54:46,187
Criticality,
a point of no return,

1079
00:54:46,221 --> 00:54:47,821
massive explosive force.

1080
00:54:47,855 --> 00:54:50,191
But this time,
the chain reaction doesn't stop.

1081
00:54:51,092 --> 00:54:54,062
It would ignite the atmosphere.

1082
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:57,098
When we detonate
an atomic device,

1083
00:54:57,132 --> 00:54:59,301
we might start
a chain reaction that...

1084
00:55:00,268 --> 00:55:01,802
...destroys the world.

1085
00:55:02,970 --> 00:55:04,872
So here we are, hmm?

1086
00:55:04,905 --> 00:55:09,210
Lost in your quantum world
of probabilities

1087
00:55:09,244 --> 00:55:10,978
and needing certainty.

1088
00:55:11,012 --> 00:55:13,881
Can you run
the calculations yourself?

1089
00:55:13,914 --> 00:55:15,317
About the only thing

1090
00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:18,620
you and I have in common
is a disdain for mathematics.

1091
00:55:18,653 --> 00:55:21,222
Who's working on this
in-in Berkeley?

1092
00:55:21,256 --> 00:55:22,557
Hans Bethe.

1093
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:24,426
Well, he'll get to the truth.

1094
00:55:26,061 --> 00:55:28,929
And if the truth
is catastrophic?

1095
00:55:28,962 --> 00:55:30,265
Then you stop.

1096
00:55:30,298 --> 00:55:34,035
And you share your findings
with the Nazis.

1097
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:37,205
So neither side
destroys the world.

1098
00:55:40,408 --> 00:55:41,443
Robert.

1099
00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:46,114
This is yours, not mine.

1100
00:55:58,992 --> 00:56:00,395
Teller's wrong.

1101
00:56:00,428 --> 00:56:01,629
He's wrong.

1102
00:56:11,306 --> 00:56:14,008
When you know
Teller's critical assumptions,

1103
00:56:14,042 --> 00:56:15,377
the real picture emerges.

1104
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:17,212
Bottom line?

1105
00:56:17,245 --> 00:56:19,347
The chances of an uncontrolled
nuclear reaction

1106
00:56:19,381 --> 00:56:20,382
are near zero.

1107
00:56:20,415 --> 00:56:23,051
Near zero.

1108
00:56:23,084 --> 00:56:25,353
- Oppie, this is good news.
- Mm.

1109
00:56:26,688 --> 00:56:27,921
Can you run them again?

1110
00:56:27,955 --> 00:56:29,691
No, you'll get the same answer.

1111
00:56:29,724 --> 00:56:31,292
Till they actually detonate
one of these things,

1112
00:56:31,326 --> 00:56:34,162
the best assurance
you're going to get is this.

1113
00:56:34,195 --> 00:56:35,263
Near zero.

1114
00:56:37,465 --> 00:56:40,135
Theory
will take you only so far.

1115
00:56:40,168 --> 00:56:41,669
- Mm.
<i>- Hello!</i>

1116
00:56:41,703 --> 00:56:43,004
- Hello, you.
- Hi.

1117
00:56:43,037 --> 00:56:44,372
We missed him.

1118
00:56:44,406 --> 00:56:45,540
You want to adopt?

1119
00:56:45,573 --> 00:56:46,974
She's kidding.

1120
00:56:47,008 --> 00:56:48,942
We wanted to see you
before we left.

1121
00:56:48,976 --> 00:56:52,147
For parts unknown.

1122
00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:54,716
You know who
I ran into the other day?

1123
00:56:54,749 --> 00:56:56,384
Eltenton.

1124
00:56:56,418 --> 00:56:57,685
Oh.

1125
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,421
The chemist from Shell?
The union guy?

1126
00:56:59,454 --> 00:57:03,324
Yeah. He...
The, uh, F.A.E.C.T. guy.

1127
00:57:03,358 --> 00:57:06,728
He was moaning about
how we're handling the war.

1128
00:57:06,761 --> 00:57:08,962
How so?

1129
00:57:08,996 --> 00:57:11,733
Lack of cooperation
with our allies.

1130
00:57:11,766 --> 00:57:14,102
Apparently
our government's not sharing

1131
00:57:14,135 --> 00:57:16,237
any research with the Russians.

1132
00:57:16,271 --> 00:57:17,238
Well, he said,

1133
00:57:17,272 --> 00:57:20,008
"Most scientists think
the policy is stupid."

1134
00:57:23,344 --> 00:57:25,180
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.

1135
00:57:25,213 --> 00:57:27,582
He mentioned that if anyone

1136
00:57:27,615 --> 00:57:30,585
had anything
they wanted to pass on,

1137
00:57:30,618 --> 00:57:32,454
uh, going around
official channels,

1138
00:57:32,487 --> 00:57:34,422
that he could help.

1139
00:57:43,064 --> 00:57:44,732
That would be treason.

1140
00:57:44,766 --> 00:57:47,602
Yes, of course.

1141
00:57:47,635 --> 00:57:49,437
I just thought you should know.

1142
00:57:52,574 --> 00:57:54,042
The brat is down.

1143
00:57:54,075 --> 00:57:55,443
Where are the martinis?

1144
00:58:00,648 --> 00:58:02,150
Coming right up.

1145
00:58:02,183 --> 00:58:03,651
<i>Conversation ended there.</i>

1146
00:58:03,685 --> 00:58:05,787
Nothing in our
long-standing friendship

1147
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:07,388
would have led me to believe

1148
00:58:07,422 --> 00:58:10,158
that Chevalier was actually
seeking information,

1149
00:58:10,191 --> 00:58:12,660
and I am certain
that he had no idea

1150
00:58:12,694 --> 00:58:14,995
of the work in which
I was engaged.

1151
00:58:19,534 --> 00:58:21,503
It has long been clear to me

1152
00:58:21,536 --> 00:58:24,239
that I should have reported
this incident at once.

1153
00:58:24,272 --> 00:58:25,773
<i>The Oppenheimer situation</i>

1154
00:58:25,807 --> 00:58:28,710
<i>highlights the tension
between scientists</i>

1155
00:58:28,743 --> 00:58:30,345
and the security apparatus.

1156
00:58:30,378 --> 00:58:32,247
In hopes of learning
how the nominee handled

1157
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,616
such issues during
his time at the AEC,

1158
00:58:34,649 --> 00:58:38,152
we'll have a scientist
appearing before the committee.

1159
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:40,388
Who are they bringing in?

1160
00:58:40,421 --> 00:58:41,389
They hadn't said.

1161
00:58:41,422 --> 00:58:42,790
Mr. Chairman, if I may,

1162
00:58:42,824 --> 00:58:45,360
I'm nominated
for Commerce Secretary.

1163
00:58:45,393 --> 00:58:47,695
Why seek the opinion
of scientists?

1164
00:58:47,729 --> 00:58:50,064
This is a Cabinet post, Admiral.

1165
00:58:50,098 --> 00:58:52,267
We seek a wide range of opinion.

1166
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:55,103
Well, I'd like to know the name
of the scientist testifying.

1167
00:58:55,136 --> 00:58:56,638
I'd like the chance
to cross-examine.

1168
00:58:56,671 --> 00:58:58,806
This is not a court.

1169
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,242
Formality, huh?

1170
00:59:01,276 --> 00:59:02,544
No presidential Cabinet nominee

1171
00:59:02,577 --> 00:59:05,146
has failed to be confirmed
since 1925.

1172
00:59:05,179 --> 00:59:07,282
This is just how
the game is played.

1173
00:59:07,315 --> 00:59:08,616
It's in the bag, Lewis.

1174
00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:09,851
So play nice.

1175
00:59:09,884 --> 00:59:12,153
<i>They bring in a scientist,
so what?</i>

1176
00:59:12,186 --> 00:59:14,188
You don't know scientists
like I do, Counselor.

1177
00:59:14,222 --> 00:59:16,257
They resent anyone
who questions their judgment,

1178
00:59:16,291 --> 00:59:18,293
<i>especially if you're
not one of them.</i>

1179
00:59:18,326 --> 00:59:19,627
I was chair of the AEC.

1180
00:59:19,661 --> 00:59:22,096
I'm easy to blame
for what happened to Robert.

1181
00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:23,431
We can't have
the Senate thinking

1182
00:59:23,464 --> 00:59:26,568
the scientific community
doesn't support you, sir.

1183
00:59:26,601 --> 00:59:28,436
Or should we pivot?

1184
00:59:28,469 --> 00:59:30,438
- To what?
- And embrace it.

1185
00:59:30,471 --> 00:59:33,241
"I fought Oppenheimer,
and the US won."

1186
00:59:33,274 --> 00:59:34,842
I-I don't think
we need to go there.

1187
00:59:34,876 --> 00:59:37,145
Isn't there someone we can call
who knows what really happened?

1188
00:59:37,178 --> 00:59:38,613
- Teller.
- He'll make an impression.

1189
00:59:38,646 --> 00:59:40,715
Can you get the name of
the scientist they've called?

1190
00:59:40,748 --> 00:59:42,317
- Probably.
- Find out if he was

1191
00:59:42,350 --> 00:59:44,719
based in Chicago
or Los Alamos during the war.

1192
00:59:44,752 --> 00:59:46,120
Why does that matter?

1193
00:59:46,154 --> 00:59:47,355
Well, if he was
based in Chicago,

1194
00:59:47,388 --> 00:59:48,790
then he worked
under Szilard and Fermi,

1195
00:59:48,823 --> 00:59:51,125
not the cult of Oppie
at Los Alamos.

1196
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:52,393
Robert built that damn place.

1197
00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:55,196
He was founder, mayor, sheriff,

1198
00:59:55,229 --> 00:59:56,631
all rolled into one.

1199
01:00:09,577 --> 01:00:11,379
All it needs is a saloon.

1200
01:00:39,807 --> 01:00:42,377
There's no kitchen.

1201
01:00:42,410 --> 01:00:46,347
Really? We'll fix that.

1202
01:00:52,253 --> 01:00:55,657
Barbed wire, guns.

1203
01:00:55,690 --> 01:00:56,791
Oppie.

1204
01:00:56,824 --> 01:00:58,459
We're at war, Hans.

1205
01:01:00,862 --> 01:01:03,431
Halifax. 1917.

1206
01:01:03,464 --> 01:01:06,434
A cargo ship carrying munitions
explodes in the harbor.

1207
01:01:08,836 --> 01:01:11,773
A vast and sudden
chemical reaction.

1208
01:01:15,443 --> 01:01:18,279
The biggest man-made
explosion in history.

1209
01:01:18,312 --> 01:01:20,281
Now let's calculate
how much more destructive

1210
01:01:20,314 --> 01:01:22,984
it would have been
if it were a nuclear

1211
01:01:23,018 --> 01:01:24,686
and not a chemical reaction.

1212
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:28,356
Expressing power in terms
of tons of TNT.

1213
01:01:28,389 --> 01:01:29,891
But it will be thousands.

1214
01:01:29,924 --> 01:01:33,361
Well, then kilotons.

1215
01:01:36,931 --> 01:01:40,301
Using U-235,

1216
01:01:40,334 --> 01:01:42,904
- the bomb will need a...
- Uh-uh.

1217
01:01:42,937 --> 01:01:46,008
Sorry. Gadget will need
a 33-pound sphere

1218
01:01:46,041 --> 01:01:47,508
about this size.

1219
01:01:47,542 --> 01:01:51,345
Or using plutonium,
the ten-pound sphere.

1220
01:01:52,747 --> 01:01:53,981
Here's the amount of uranium.

1221
01:01:54,016 --> 01:01:57,351
Oak Ridge refined
all of last month.

1222
01:01:59,754 --> 01:02:03,758
And the Hanford plant
made this much plutonium.

1223
01:02:04,892 --> 01:02:07,995
Now, if we can enrich
these amounts,

1224
01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:10,832
we need a way to detonate them.

1225
01:02:10,865 --> 01:02:12,967
Are we boring you, Edward?

1226
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,602
A little bit, yes.

1227
01:02:14,635 --> 01:02:15,870
May I ask why?

1228
01:02:15,903 --> 01:02:17,338
We all entered this room

1229
01:02:17,371 --> 01:02:19,307
knowing a fission bomb
was possible.

1230
01:02:19,340 --> 01:02:21,943
How 'bout we leave it
with something new?

1231
01:02:21,976 --> 01:02:22,977
Such as?

1232
01:02:23,011 --> 01:02:25,747
Instead of uranium or plutonium,

1233
01:02:25,780 --> 01:02:26,781
we use hydrogen.

1234
01:02:28,349 --> 01:02:29,951
- Heavy hydrogen.
- Hydrogen.

1235
01:02:29,984 --> 01:02:32,754
Deuterium. You see?

1236
01:02:32,787 --> 01:02:34,489
We compact the atoms together

1237
01:02:34,522 --> 01:02:37,592
under great pressure
to induce a fusion reaction.

1238
01:02:38,526 --> 01:02:41,362
Then we'll get not kilotons,

1239
01:02:41,395 --> 01:02:42,463
but megatons.

1240
01:02:42,497 --> 01:02:43,431
A big fission reaction...

1241
01:02:43,464 --> 01:02:45,033
Okay, hang on, hang on.

1242
01:02:45,067 --> 01:02:49,771
So how do you generate enough
force to fuse hydrogen atoms?

1243
01:02:49,804 --> 01:02:51,873
A small fission bomb.

1244
01:02:51,906 --> 01:02:53,608
There we are.

1245
01:02:55,543 --> 01:02:57,345
Well, since we're going
to need one anyway,

1246
01:02:57,378 --> 01:02:59,347
can we get back
to the business at hand?

1247
01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:00,715
The isotopes issue

1248
01:03:00,748 --> 01:03:04,385
wasn't your most important
policy disagreement

1249
01:03:04,418 --> 01:03:06,054
with Dr. Oppenheimer.

1250
01:03:06,088 --> 01:03:08,489
It was the hydrogen bomb,
wasn't it?

1251
01:03:08,523 --> 01:03:11,392
Uh, as colleagues,
we agreed to disagree

1252
01:03:11,425 --> 01:03:13,427
on a great many things, uh,

1253
01:03:13,461 --> 01:03:14,695
and, well, one of them

1254
01:03:14,729 --> 01:03:17,799
was the need
for an H-bomb program, yes.

1255
01:03:30,645 --> 01:03:33,414
Thanks for convening
on short notice.

1256
01:03:33,447 --> 01:03:34,916
I can't believe it.

1257
01:03:35,917 --> 01:03:37,451
Well, here we are.

1258
01:03:37,485 --> 01:03:39,487
Catch me up. What do we know?

1259
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,024
One of our B-29s
over the North Pacific

1260
01:03:42,057 --> 01:03:43,558
has detected radiation.

1261
01:03:43,591 --> 01:03:45,359
Do we have the filter papers?

1262
01:03:45,393 --> 01:03:47,395
There's no doubt what this is.

1263
01:03:47,428 --> 01:03:48,629
White House says
there's a doubt.

1264
01:03:48,663 --> 01:03:50,098
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

1265
01:03:50,132 --> 01:03:52,834
Are those the long-range
detection filter papers?

1266
01:03:53,768 --> 01:03:55,837
It's an atomic test.

1267
01:03:58,472 --> 01:03:59,874
The Russians have a bomb.

1268
01:03:59,907 --> 01:04:03,644
We're supposed to be years
ahead of them, but some...

1269
01:04:03,678 --> 01:04:05,980
What were you guys
doing at Los Alamos?

1270
01:04:06,014 --> 01:04:07,149
Wasn't security tight?

1271
01:04:07,182 --> 01:04:08,683
Of course it was.
You weren't there.

1272
01:04:08,716 --> 01:04:11,119
- It was...
- Forgive me, Doctor...

1273
01:04:11,153 --> 01:04:13,588
but I was there.

1274
01:04:14,655 --> 01:04:15,990
We can now consider

1275
01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,959
the actual mechanics
of detonation.

1276
01:04:17,992 --> 01:04:19,127
Any ideas?

1277
01:04:19,161 --> 01:04:20,895
I call this "shooting."

1278
01:04:20,928 --> 01:04:24,465
We fire a chunk of fissionable
material into a larger sphere

1279
01:04:24,498 --> 01:04:27,001
with enough force
to achieve criticality.

1280
01:04:27,035 --> 01:04:28,703
What do we think? Anyone?

1281
01:04:28,736 --> 01:04:30,538
I've been
thinking about implosion.

1282
01:04:30,571 --> 01:04:32,540
Explosives around the sphere
blast inwards,

1283
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:34,609
crushing the material.

1284
01:04:34,642 --> 01:04:36,577
I'd like to investigate
that idea.

1285
01:04:36,611 --> 01:04:38,913
I'll talk to Ordnance,
get you blowing things up.

1286
01:04:39,914 --> 01:04:41,016
Progress?

1287
01:04:41,049 --> 01:04:42,884
Nice to see you too.

1288
01:04:42,917 --> 01:04:44,685
Meet the British contingent.

1289
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,554
Dr. Oppenheimer, Klaus Fuchs.

1290
01:04:46,587 --> 01:04:48,456
How long have you been British?

1291
01:04:48,489 --> 01:04:49,690
Since Hitler told me
I wasn't German.

1292
01:04:49,724 --> 01:04:53,527
Uh-huh.
Come, welcome to Los Alamos.

1293
01:04:53,561 --> 01:04:55,429
School's up and running.

1294
01:04:55,463 --> 01:04:57,765
Bar. Always running.

1295
01:04:57,798 --> 01:05:00,801
And I thought of a way
to reduce support staff.

1296
01:05:01,769 --> 01:05:03,771
- Is that...
- Mrs. Serber, yes.

1297
01:05:03,804 --> 01:05:05,207
I've offered jobs
to all the wives.

1298
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,707
Admin, librarians, computation.

1299
01:05:06,741 --> 01:05:09,044
We cut down on staff,
keep families together.

1300
01:05:09,077 --> 01:05:11,646
- Are these women qualified?
- Don't be absurd.

1301
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:14,049
These are some of the brightest
minds in our community.

1302
01:05:14,082 --> 01:05:15,650
And they're already
security cleared.

1303
01:05:15,683 --> 01:05:17,551
I've informed General Groves
you've been holding

1304
01:05:17,585 --> 01:05:19,054
cross-divisional
open discussions

1305
01:05:19,087 --> 01:05:20,788
- on a nightly basis.
- Shut them down.

1306
01:05:20,821 --> 01:05:23,158
Compartmentalization is the
key to maintaining security...

1307
01:05:23,191 --> 01:05:24,692
It's only the top men.

1308
01:05:24,725 --> 01:05:26,560
Who presumably communicate
with subordinates.

1309
01:05:26,594 --> 01:05:27,795
These men aren't stupid.

1310
01:05:27,828 --> 01:05:29,664
- They can be discreet.
- I don't like it.

1311
01:05:29,697 --> 01:05:32,600
You don't like anything enough
for that to be a fair test.

1312
01:05:38,140 --> 01:05:40,675
Once a week. Top men only.

1313
01:05:40,708 --> 01:05:42,077
I'd like to bring
my brother here.

1314
01:05:42,110 --> 01:05:43,577
No.

1315
01:05:44,212 --> 01:05:45,980
Uh, Nichols...

1316
01:05:47,115 --> 01:05:49,051
I still haven't heard
that my security clearance

1317
01:05:49,084 --> 01:05:50,651
- has been approved.
- It hasn't.

1318
01:05:50,685 --> 01:05:52,054
We're going to Chicago tomorrow.

1319
01:05:52,087 --> 01:05:53,121
No, you should wait.

1320
01:05:54,323 --> 01:05:55,424
You are aware that the Nazis
have a two-year head start.

1321
01:05:55,456 --> 01:05:58,526
Dr. Oppenheimer, the fact
that your security clearance

1322
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,561
is proving difficult to obtain
is not my fault.

1323
01:06:00,594 --> 01:06:01,862
It's yours.

1324
01:06:01,896 --> 01:06:03,831
May not be your fault,
but it's your problem.

1325
01:06:03,864 --> 01:06:04,865
Because I'm going.

1326
01:06:04,899 --> 01:06:08,669
And how many people
were in these, uh,

1327
01:06:08,703 --> 01:06:10,905
- open discussions?
- Too many.

1328
01:06:10,938 --> 01:06:12,274
Compartmentalization was
supposed to be the protocol.

1329
01:06:12,307 --> 01:06:14,242
We were in a race
against the Nazis.

1330
01:06:14,276 --> 01:06:16,711
And now the race
is against the Soviets.

1331
01:06:16,744 --> 01:06:18,246
- Not unless we start it.
- Robert.

1332
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,682
They just fired a starting gun.

1333
01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:23,684
What's the nature
of the device they detonated?

1334
01:06:23,718 --> 01:06:25,253
The data indicates
it may have been

1335
01:06:25,287 --> 01:06:27,588
a plutonium implosion device.

1336
01:06:27,621 --> 01:06:30,725
Like the one you built
at Los Alamos.

1337
01:06:30,758 --> 01:06:32,593
The Russians have a bomb,

1338
01:06:32,626 --> 01:06:33,894
Truman needs to know
what's next.

1339
01:06:33,928 --> 01:06:35,730
What's next? Arms talks.

1340
01:06:35,763 --> 01:06:37,631
- Arms talks.
- Obviously.

1341
01:06:38,566 --> 01:06:39,767
What about the Super?

1342
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,535
Does Truman even know about it?

1343
01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:43,571
Did we brief him on that?

1344
01:06:43,604 --> 01:06:44,672
Not specifically.

1345
01:06:44,705 --> 01:06:46,008
We still don't know

1346
01:06:46,041 --> 01:06:47,808
if a hydrogen bomb's
technically feasible.

1347
01:06:47,842 --> 01:06:49,744
Right, my understanding
is that Teller proposed it?

1348
01:06:49,777 --> 01:06:51,612
- Yes.
- At Los Alamos?

1349
01:06:51,645 --> 01:06:53,281
Teller's designs have always
been wildly impractical.

1350
01:06:53,315 --> 01:06:55,649
You'd have to deliver
by ox cart.

1351
01:06:55,683 --> 01:06:56,951
- Not airplane.
- Oppie.

1352
01:06:56,984 --> 01:07:00,688
I'm sorry, Dr. Lawrence,
you want to comment?

1353
01:07:01,922 --> 01:07:03,025
No.

1354
01:07:04,892 --> 01:07:07,162
Because if it can
put us ahead again,

1355
01:07:07,195 --> 01:07:10,232
the President
of the United States

1356
01:07:10,265 --> 01:07:12,267
needs to know about it.

1357
01:07:13,801 --> 01:07:15,603
And if the Russians
know about it already,

1358
01:07:15,636 --> 01:07:18,639
from a spy at Los Alamos,

1359
01:07:18,672 --> 01:07:19,974
then we've gotta get going.

1360
01:07:20,008 --> 01:07:22,977
There's no proof there was
a spy at Los Alamos.

1361
01:07:23,011 --> 01:07:24,079
Robert.

1362
01:07:28,916 --> 01:07:30,684
They put it under
the football stadium?

1363
01:07:30,718 --> 01:07:32,653
The field's not in use anymore.

1364
01:07:32,686 --> 01:07:34,922
Just as well.

1365
01:07:36,224 --> 01:07:38,659
- Oppie.
- Dr. Fermi.

1366
01:07:41,363 --> 01:07:42,696
I hear you got a little town.

1367
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:43,964
Yes. Come and see.

1368
01:07:45,699 --> 01:07:49,804
Who could think straight
in a place like that? Huh?

1369
01:07:49,837 --> 01:07:51,772
Everybody will go crazy.

1370
01:07:51,806 --> 01:07:55,676
Thank you for the vote
of confidence, Szilard.

1371
01:07:55,709 --> 01:07:59,347
Do we really... do we really
need that in the notes?

1372
01:07:59,381 --> 01:08:01,816
When are you going
to try it out?

1373
01:08:01,849 --> 01:08:02,883
We did.

1374
01:08:02,917 --> 01:08:07,289
The first self-sustaining
nuclear chain reaction.

1375
01:08:07,322 --> 01:08:08,956
Didn't Groves tell you?

1376
01:08:08,989 --> 01:08:10,624
No.

1377
01:08:15,130 --> 01:08:18,233
One at a time, please,
one at a time.

1378
01:08:18,266 --> 01:08:19,733
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1379
01:08:20,835 --> 01:08:23,305
I tried Personnel.
They asked if I could type.

1380
01:08:23,338 --> 01:08:24,638
Can you?

1381
01:08:24,672 --> 01:08:25,806
Harvard forgot to teach that

1382
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,675
on the graduate
chemistry course.

1383
01:08:29,044 --> 01:08:31,946
Condon, put Mrs. Hornig here
on the plutonium team.

1384
01:08:37,718 --> 01:08:39,387
What the hell
were you doing in Chicago?

1385
01:08:39,421 --> 01:08:40,888
Visiting the Met?

1386
01:08:40,921 --> 01:08:41,922
- Why? Why?
- Well, you can't talk to...

1387
01:08:41,956 --> 01:08:43,991
Because we have every right...

1388
01:08:44,025 --> 01:08:46,361
You have just the rights
that I give you.

1389
01:08:46,394 --> 01:08:47,862
No more, no less.

1390
01:08:47,895 --> 01:08:50,332
We are adults
trying to run a project here.

1391
01:08:50,365 --> 01:08:52,067
This is ridiculous.

1392
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:53,868
Tell him.

1393
01:08:53,901 --> 01:08:57,038
Compartmentalization
is the protocol we agreed to.

1394
01:08:58,173 --> 01:08:59,407
Enough of this madhouse.

1395
01:08:59,441 --> 01:09:01,809
Nobody can work
under these conditions.

1396
01:09:01,842 --> 01:09:06,281
You know what, Generalissimo?
I quit.

1397
01:09:06,314 --> 01:09:07,715
Thanks for nothing.

1398
01:09:09,817 --> 01:09:11,319
Better off without him.

1399
01:09:12,753 --> 01:09:13,787
Aren't you more concerned

1400
01:09:13,821 --> 01:09:16,191
about his discretion out there?

1401
01:09:16,224 --> 01:09:18,627
We'll have him killed.

1402
01:09:19,461 --> 01:09:22,030
I was just kidding.

1403
01:09:22,063 --> 01:09:24,999
- No, he hates me, not America.
- You know, General,

1404
01:09:25,033 --> 01:09:27,369
not everyone has levers
to pull like mine.

1405
01:09:27,402 --> 01:09:29,237
I don't think I understand.

1406
01:09:29,271 --> 01:09:31,439
You didn't hire me
despite my left-wing past.

1407
01:09:31,473 --> 01:09:33,208
You hired me because of it.

1408
01:09:34,209 --> 01:09:36,178
So you could control me.

1409
01:09:36,211 --> 01:09:38,812
Well, I'm not that subtle.

1410
01:09:38,846 --> 01:09:40,881
I'm just a humble soldier.

1411
01:09:40,915 --> 01:09:42,417
You're neither humble
nor just a soldier.

1412
01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:43,451
You studied engineering at MIT.

1413
01:09:43,485 --> 01:09:45,320
Guilty as charged.

1414
01:09:45,353 --> 01:09:46,854
Well, now we understand
each other,

1415
01:09:46,887 --> 01:09:48,323
perhaps you can get me
my security clearance

1416
01:09:48,356 --> 01:09:51,159
so I can perform
this miracle for you.

1417
01:09:56,064 --> 01:09:57,798
<i>General Groves, were you aware</i>

1418
01:09:57,831 --> 01:10:00,135
<i>of Dr. Oppenheimer's
left-wing associations</i>

1419
01:10:00,168 --> 01:10:01,835
<i>when you appointed him?</i>

1420
01:10:01,869 --> 01:10:03,505
I was aware that there
were suspicions about him.

1421
01:10:03,538 --> 01:10:05,407
I was aware he had
a very extreme

1422
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,807
liberal background.

1423
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,443
In your opinion,
would he ever consciously

1424
01:10:08,476 --> 01:10:09,777
commit a disloyal act?

1425
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:11,413
I would be amazed if he did.

1426
01:10:11,446 --> 01:10:14,516
So you had complete
confidence in his integrity.

1427
01:10:14,549 --> 01:10:15,950
At Los Alamos, yes,

1428
01:10:15,983 --> 01:10:17,319
which is where
I really knew him.

1429
01:10:17,352 --> 01:10:19,321
General,
did your security officers

1430
01:10:19,354 --> 01:10:20,821
on the project advise you

1431
01:10:20,854 --> 01:10:22,324
against the clearance
of Dr. Oppenheimer?

1432
01:10:22,357 --> 01:10:26,161
They could not and would not
clear him until I insisted.

1433
01:10:26,194 --> 01:10:28,829
And it's safe to say that you
had a pretty good knowledge

1434
01:10:28,862 --> 01:10:30,098
of Dr. Oppenheimer's
security file.

1435
01:10:30,131 --> 01:10:31,799
I did.

1436
01:10:31,832 --> 01:10:33,000
Well, then there's only
really one question

1437
01:10:33,034 --> 01:10:34,502
I need answered here today.

1438
01:10:34,536 --> 01:10:36,238
In light of
the current AEC guidelines,

1439
01:10:36,271 --> 01:10:38,973
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1440
01:10:39,007 --> 01:10:41,076
Do you have the guidelines?

1441
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:50,818
Under current AEC guidelines,

1442
01:10:50,851 --> 01:10:52,886
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1443
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:08,902
Physics and New Mexico, huh?

1444
01:11:08,936 --> 01:11:11,972
My God. What a trek.

1445
01:11:12,007 --> 01:11:13,475
That's why you need a liaison.

1446
01:11:13,508 --> 01:11:15,043
I'm appointing Lomanitz.

1447
01:11:16,211 --> 01:11:17,279
You're gonna be okay.

1448
01:11:17,312 --> 01:11:18,480
This way, gentlemen.

1449
01:11:28,456 --> 01:11:30,292
- Dr. Lawrence.
- Leslie.

1450
01:11:30,325 --> 01:11:32,893
I'd like to remind you what
we talked about in Berkeley.

1451
01:11:32,926 --> 01:11:35,263
Compartmentalization.
I understand completely.

1452
01:11:38,433 --> 01:11:39,434
Okay.

1453
01:11:40,602 --> 01:11:42,037
Thank you.

1454
01:11:49,943 --> 01:11:51,179
<i>Greetings from Berkeley.</i>

1455
01:11:51,212 --> 01:11:53,348
I am here to update you
on our progress

1456
01:11:53,381 --> 01:11:54,915
and solicit your input.

1457
01:11:54,948 --> 01:11:56,318
To do so,
I am going to have to share

1458
01:11:56,351 --> 01:12:00,021
a few things that
General Groves told me not to.

1459
01:12:00,055 --> 01:12:01,855
Sorry, General,
I said I understood,

1460
01:12:01,889 --> 01:12:02,956
not that I agreed.

1461
01:12:02,990 --> 01:12:04,526
'Kay.

1462
01:12:04,559 --> 01:12:06,594
Gentlemen, to business.

1463
01:12:06,628 --> 01:12:08,996
There were rumors of espionage
at Los Alamos.

1464
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:10,498
Unsubstantiated.
Unsubstantiated.

1465
01:12:10,532 --> 01:12:11,999
I'm told

1466
01:12:12,033 --> 01:12:13,335
that there were Communists
on the project.

1467
01:12:13,368 --> 01:12:15,136
We didn't knowingly
employ any Communists.

1468
01:12:15,170 --> 01:12:16,937
I just want to know,
were any of them involved

1469
01:12:16,970 --> 01:12:18,440
in discussions of the Super?

1470
01:12:18,473 --> 01:12:20,642
I seem to remember you demanding
your brother come to Los Alamos.

1471
01:12:20,675 --> 01:12:22,943
My brother had left
the Party by then.

1472
01:12:22,976 --> 01:12:24,212
What about Lomanitz?

1473
01:12:24,245 --> 01:12:25,979
Lomanitz was never
employed at Los Alamos.

1474
01:12:26,014 --> 01:12:27,015
He was a liaison.

1475
01:12:27,048 --> 01:12:28,216
Our security was tight,

1476
01:12:28,249 --> 01:12:29,617
as former Colonel Nichols
well knows.

1477
01:12:29,651 --> 01:12:31,219
Our security was as tight
as it could be

1478
01:12:31,252 --> 01:12:32,620
given the personalities
involved,

1479
01:12:32,654 --> 01:12:34,489
but attempts were made.

1480
01:12:34,522 --> 01:12:35,523
What is that supposed to mean?

1481
01:12:35,557 --> 01:12:37,125
We've all read his file here.

1482
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:40,161
Do we need to talk
about Jean Tatlock?

1483
01:12:40,695 --> 01:12:42,863
Or the Chevalier incident?

1484
01:12:47,469 --> 01:12:48,869
'Scuse me.

1485
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:54,142
That's Lomanitz, line one.

1486
01:13:00,014 --> 01:13:01,049
Hello, Rossi.

1487
01:13:01,082 --> 01:13:04,285
<i>What? O-Okay, just calm down.</i>

1488
01:13:05,253 --> 01:13:08,490
There's been another screw-up.
Lomanitz just got drafted.

1489
01:13:08,523 --> 01:13:10,991
- We are at war, Doctor.
- Don't be an asshole, Nichols.

1490
01:13:11,025 --> 01:13:13,027
We need this kid.
Fix it, will you?

1491
01:13:13,061 --> 01:13:14,262
It wasn't a mistake.

1492
01:13:14,295 --> 01:13:15,630
Your friend Lomanitz
has been trying

1493
01:13:15,663 --> 01:13:17,931
to unionize the Radiation Lab.

1494
01:13:17,965 --> 01:13:19,267
He promised to quit all that.

1495
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:21,202
Well, he hasn't.

1496
01:13:21,236 --> 01:13:23,104
Security officer at Berkeley's
concerned about.

1497
01:13:23,138 --> 01:13:25,440
Communist infiltration
through that union,

1498
01:13:25,473 --> 01:13:28,076
- the F.A...
- F.A.E.C.T.

1499
01:13:30,478 --> 01:13:34,182
While I'm there next week,
I'll drop in to see him.

1500
01:13:36,451 --> 01:13:38,186
Your Q clearance came through.

1501
01:13:41,723 --> 01:13:43,158
It's important
you not maintain or renew

1502
01:13:43,191 --> 01:13:45,460
any questionable associations.

1503
01:13:50,198 --> 01:13:52,700
<i>Doctor, did you think
social contacts</i>

1504
01:13:52,734 --> 01:13:55,069
between a person engaged
on secret war work

1505
01:13:55,103 --> 01:13:56,471
and Communists was dangerous?

1506
01:13:56,504 --> 01:14:00,175
My awareness of the danger
would be greater today.

1507
01:14:00,208 --> 01:14:03,111
I mean, it's fair to say
that during the war years,

1508
01:14:03,144 --> 01:14:06,347
<i>you felt that such contacts
were potentially dangerous.</i>

1509
01:14:12,787 --> 01:14:15,757
<i>Were conceivably dangerous, yes.</i>

1510
01:14:15,790 --> 01:14:18,059
<i>I mean, really,</i>

1511
01:14:18,092 --> 01:14:20,128
<i>known Communists.</i>

1512
01:14:22,263 --> 01:14:24,499
<i>Look...</i>

1513
01:14:24,532 --> 01:14:26,067
I've had a lot of secrets

1514
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:29,070
<i>in my head for a long time.</i>

1515
01:14:30,038 --> 01:14:31,306
<i>Doesn't matter
who I associate with.</i>

1516
01:14:31,339 --> 01:14:34,242
I don't talk about
those secrets.

1517
01:14:41,649 --> 01:14:43,284
You said in your statement

1518
01:14:43,318 --> 01:14:49,257
that you had to see
Jean Tatlock in 1943.

1519
01:14:50,725 --> 01:14:52,393
You left.

1520
01:14:53,628 --> 01:14:55,063
Not a word.

1521
01:14:55,096 --> 01:14:57,565
What did you think
that would do to me?

1522
01:14:58,666 --> 01:14:59,734
I wrote.

1523
01:14:59,767 --> 01:15:02,170
Pages of nothing.

1524
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,774
Where did you go?

1525
01:15:06,808 --> 01:15:09,244
- I can't tell you.
- Why not?

1526
01:15:09,277 --> 01:15:12,013
Because you're a Communist.

1527
01:15:13,548 --> 01:15:15,416
Why did you have to see her?

1528
01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:18,553
Because she had indicated
a great desire

1529
01:15:18,586 --> 01:15:20,255
to see me before we left.

1530
01:15:20,288 --> 01:15:21,456
At that time, I couldn't,

1531
01:15:21,489 --> 01:15:25,293
but I felt that
she had to see me.

1532
01:15:25,326 --> 01:15:27,829
She was undergoing
psychiatric treatment.

1533
01:15:27,862 --> 01:15:30,098
She was extremely unhappy.

1534
01:15:30,131 --> 01:15:32,133
Did you find out
why she had to see you?

1535
01:15:37,238 --> 01:15:39,307
Because she was
still in love with me.

1536
01:15:46,514 --> 01:15:48,583
Spent the night together,
didn't you?

1537
01:15:56,558 --> 01:15:57,592
Yes.

1538
01:16:03,264 --> 01:16:07,135
You drop in and out of my life,

1539
01:16:07,168 --> 01:16:09,637
and you don't
have to tell me why.

1540
01:16:09,671 --> 01:16:11,139
Now that's power.

1541
01:16:11,172 --> 01:16:13,207
Not that I enjoy.

1542
01:16:14,175 --> 01:16:16,311
I'd rather be here
for you as you need.

1543
01:16:16,344 --> 01:16:18,813
But you have
other priorities now.

1544
01:16:18,846 --> 01:16:21,616
I have a wife and child.

1545
01:16:22,617 --> 01:16:25,420
That's not what either of us
is talking about.

1546
01:16:28,856 --> 01:16:30,725
Jean.

1547
01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:32,894
You asked me to come.

1548
01:16:32,927 --> 01:16:35,296
And I'm glad I did.

1549
01:16:35,930 --> 01:16:38,499
But I can't see you again.

1550
01:16:40,902 --> 01:16:42,604
But what if I need you?

1551
01:16:46,174 --> 01:16:49,143
You said you would
always answer.

1552
01:16:51,613 --> 01:16:52,747
Not a word?

1553
01:16:54,016 --> 01:16:55,084
<i>Did you think that
consistent with good security?</i>

1554
01:16:55,116 --> 01:16:57,785
As a matter of fact, it was.

1555
01:16:57,819 --> 01:17:00,188
<i>Not a word.</i>

1556
01:17:00,221 --> 01:17:02,390
When did you see her after that?

1557
01:17:10,798 --> 01:17:12,467
I never saw her again.

1558
01:17:18,673 --> 01:17:21,309
I can make the last train
back to Princeton.

1559
01:17:21,342 --> 01:17:24,512
Kitty, I didn't say anything
that I hadn't already told you.

1560
01:17:24,545 --> 01:17:26,681
Today you said it to history,
didn't you?

1561
01:17:26,714 --> 01:17:28,249
This is a closed hearing.

1562
01:17:29,951 --> 01:17:31,552
If they don't release
the transcript,

1563
01:17:31,586 --> 01:17:33,588
- I'm sure you will.
- I was under oath.

1564
01:17:33,621 --> 01:17:35,390
Well, you were
under an oath for me

1565
01:17:35,423 --> 01:17:37,225
when you went to see Jean.

1566
01:17:37,892 --> 01:17:39,327
You know, you...

1567
01:17:40,228 --> 01:17:42,530
...you sit there, day after day,

1568
01:17:42,563 --> 01:17:45,600
letting them pick our lives
to pieces.

1569
01:17:48,603 --> 01:17:50,304
Why won't you fight?

1570
01:17:53,441 --> 01:17:56,577
Robert, I'm not
putting her up there.

1571
01:18:01,716 --> 01:18:04,585
Dr. Oppenheimer, it's an honor.
Please, take a seat.

1572
01:18:04,619 --> 01:18:08,222
No need, um, I just wanted
to check whether I should

1573
01:18:08,256 --> 01:18:10,425
talk to Lomanitz while I'm here,
given your concerns.

1574
01:18:10,458 --> 01:18:12,560
Well, I'd say that's really
up to you, Professor,

1575
01:18:12,593 --> 01:18:14,762
- but I'd be cautious.
- Uh-huh. Understood.

1576
01:18:14,796 --> 01:18:17,532
Oh, and, um,
as regards to the union,

1577
01:18:17,565 --> 01:18:19,333
I wanted to give you
a heads-up on a...

1578
01:18:19,367 --> 01:18:20,702
on a man named Eltenton.

1579
01:18:20,735 --> 01:18:22,236
A heads-up?

1580
01:18:22,270 --> 01:18:26,207
Yes, just that he might
merit watching is all.

1581
01:18:27,009 --> 01:18:28,443
Well, I'd love
to get more details.

1582
01:18:28,476 --> 01:18:30,812
Well, I...
I have an appointment now

1583
01:18:30,845 --> 01:18:32,280
and I leave early tomorrow.

1584
01:18:32,313 --> 01:18:33,848
Well, come back
as early as you like.

1585
01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:36,217
Since you haven't time now.

1586
01:18:36,884 --> 01:18:38,720
You went back the next morning.

1587
01:18:38,753 --> 01:18:40,755
I did, I had to, really.

1588
01:18:41,689 --> 01:18:44,292
<i>This time, there was
another man.</i>

1589
01:18:44,959 --> 01:18:46,461
He said his name's Pash.

1590
01:18:46,494 --> 01:18:48,996
Pash. You met Colonel Pash?

1591
01:18:49,031 --> 01:18:50,565
Colonel Pash,
could you please read

1592
01:18:50,598 --> 01:18:54,402
from your memo
dated June 29, 1943?

1593
01:18:56,504 --> 01:18:58,606
"Results of surveillance
conducted on subject

1594
01:18:58,639 --> 01:19:01,476
"indicate further possible
Communist Party connections.

1595
01:19:01,509 --> 01:19:03,678
"Subject met with
and spent considerable time

1596
01:19:03,711 --> 01:19:05,913
"with one Jean Tatlock,
Communist,

1597
01:19:05,947 --> 01:19:07,415
the record of whom is attached."

1598
01:19:07,448 --> 01:19:09,317
The subject being
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1599
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:11,819
- Yes.
- Whom you had not met?

1600
01:19:11,853 --> 01:19:13,654
Not then, but soon after.

1601
01:19:13,688 --> 01:19:15,057
He's the head of security
for the project.

1602
01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:16,324
Shouldn't I know him?

1603
01:19:16,357 --> 01:19:17,692
No, he should know you.

1604
01:19:17,725 --> 01:19:19,627
I would never put you
in a room with Pash.

1605
01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:20,928
Why not?

1606
01:19:20,962 --> 01:19:23,031
When Pash first heard
about Lomanitz,

1607
01:19:23,065 --> 01:19:26,000
he told the FBI
he was gonna kidnap him,

1608
01:19:26,034 --> 01:19:27,502
take him out on a boat

1609
01:19:27,535 --> 01:19:30,538
and interrogate him
in the Russian manner.

1610
01:19:32,673 --> 01:19:35,510
General Groves has placed in me
a certain responsibility,

1611
01:19:35,543 --> 01:19:37,779
and it's like having a child
who I can't see.

1612
01:19:37,812 --> 01:19:39,914
- Ah.
- By remote control.

1613
01:19:39,947 --> 01:19:43,551
So to actually meet you is...

1614
01:19:44,652 --> 01:19:46,088
I won't take up
too much of your time.

1615
01:19:46,121 --> 01:19:48,389
No, no, not at all.
Whatever time you choose.

1616
01:19:48,422 --> 01:19:51,325
Mm. Mr. Johnson told me
of a conversation

1617
01:19:51,359 --> 01:19:53,095
you had yesterday
in which I'm very interested.

1618
01:19:53,128 --> 01:19:55,396
It's had me worried all day.

1619
01:19:55,429 --> 01:19:57,932
Yes, well, I didn't want
to talk to Lomanitz

1620
01:19:57,965 --> 01:19:59,500
without authorization.

1621
01:19:59,534 --> 01:20:00,735
That's not the particular
interest that I have.

1622
01:20:00,768 --> 01:20:02,737
It's something
a little bit more...

1623
01:20:03,771 --> 01:20:05,540
...well, in my opinion,
more serious.

1624
01:20:05,573 --> 01:20:08,509
Now, when the FBI pointed out
that such information

1625
01:20:08,543 --> 01:20:10,078
wouldn't be admissible in court,
Pash made it clear

1626
01:20:10,112 --> 01:20:13,881
he had no intention of leaving
any witness left to prosecute.

1627
01:20:13,915 --> 01:20:15,483
Now, the FBI talked him down,

1628
01:20:15,516 --> 01:20:17,085
but that's the man
you're dancing with.

1629
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:19,821
I gather you've heard
there are other parties

1630
01:20:19,854 --> 01:20:22,557
interested in the work
of the Radiation Lab.

1631
01:20:22,590 --> 01:20:26,494
A man attached
to the Soviet Consul

1632
01:20:26,527 --> 01:20:29,564
indicated,
through intermediate people,

1633
01:20:29,597 --> 01:20:31,133
to people on this project,

1634
01:20:31,166 --> 01:20:34,602
that he was in a position
to transmit information.

1635
01:20:34,635 --> 01:20:37,471
Oh, why would anyone
on the project want to do that?

1636
01:20:38,906 --> 01:20:41,442
Frankly, I can see that
there might be an argument

1637
01:20:41,475 --> 01:20:43,878
for the Commander-in-Chief
informing the Russians...

1638
01:20:43,911 --> 01:20:45,780
They're our allies after all...

1639
01:20:45,813 --> 01:20:48,716
But I don't like the idea of it
going out the back door.

1640
01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:51,485
It might not hurt
to be on the lookout for it.

1641
01:20:52,887 --> 01:20:54,056
And you said that to Pash?

1642
01:20:54,089 --> 01:20:55,590
I was trying to put it

1643
01:20:55,623 --> 01:20:58,459
in a context
of Russia's not Germany.

1644
01:20:58,492 --> 01:21:02,897
Boris Pash is the son
of a Russian Orthodox bishop.

1645
01:21:02,930 --> 01:21:06,434
Born here, but in 1918,
he went back to Russia

1646
01:21:06,467 --> 01:21:07,902
to fight the Bolsheviks.

1647
01:21:07,935 --> 01:21:10,105
This is a man who has killed
Communists with his own hands.

1648
01:21:10,138 --> 01:21:13,608
I'm not the judge of who should
or should not have information.

1649
01:21:13,641 --> 01:21:15,676
It's my business to stop it
from going through illegally.

1650
01:21:15,710 --> 01:21:17,912
Would you be
a little more specific?

1651
01:21:20,781 --> 01:21:23,651
There's a man whose name
was mentioned to me

1652
01:21:23,684 --> 01:21:25,786
a couple of times. Eltenton.

1653
01:21:26,821 --> 01:21:29,924
Uh, I believe he's a chemist
who works at Shell.

1654
01:21:29,957 --> 01:21:32,493
He talked to a friend of his

1655
01:21:32,526 --> 01:21:36,430
who's an acquaintance
of someone on the project.

1656
01:21:37,665 --> 01:21:40,102
And you thought Pash
would be satisfied with that?

1657
01:21:40,135 --> 01:21:42,670
I was attempting
to give them Eltenton

1658
01:21:42,703 --> 01:21:44,039
without opening a can of worms.

1659
01:21:44,072 --> 01:21:46,041
I told them
a cock-and-bull story.

1660
01:21:46,074 --> 01:21:47,608
Did you lie
to General Groves too?

1661
01:21:47,642 --> 01:21:51,179
No. I admitted to him
that I'd lied to Pash.

1662
01:21:51,213 --> 01:21:52,647
Do you recall this conversation

1663
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,083
about the Chevalier incident?

1664
01:21:55,117 --> 01:21:57,518
I've seen so many
versions of it. Um...

1665
01:21:57,551 --> 01:21:58,719
Wasn't confused before,

1666
01:21:58,753 --> 01:22:00,188
but I'm certainly
getting there now.

1667
01:22:00,222 --> 01:22:01,522
And what was your conclusion?

1668
01:22:01,555 --> 01:22:03,925
That he was under
the influence of

1669
01:22:03,958 --> 01:22:06,827
the typical American
schoolboy attitude

1670
01:22:06,861 --> 01:22:10,464
that there's something wicked
about telling on a friend.

1671
01:22:10,498 --> 01:22:12,533
Well, now.

1672
01:22:12,566 --> 01:22:15,002
Might we know through whom
the contact was made?

1673
01:22:15,037 --> 01:22:17,239
That would in... involve people

1674
01:22:17,272 --> 01:22:19,241
who are not to be
involved in this.

1675
01:22:19,274 --> 01:22:22,044
Is that someone
a member of the project?

1676
01:22:22,077 --> 01:22:26,614
A member of the faculty, yes,
but not in the project, no.

1677
01:22:26,647 --> 01:22:27,748
Ah.

1678
01:22:27,782 --> 01:22:29,550
So Eltenton made his approach

1679
01:22:29,583 --> 01:22:32,820
through a member of
the faculty here at Berkeley?

1680
01:22:34,555 --> 01:22:37,025
As far as I know.
As far as I know, yes.

1681
01:22:37,059 --> 01:22:39,694
But there-there may have been

1682
01:22:39,727 --> 01:22:42,463
more than one person involved.

1683
01:22:45,866 --> 01:22:49,071
Gentlemen, if I...
if I seem uncooperative,

1684
01:22:49,104 --> 01:22:52,040
I think you can understand
that's because of my insistence

1685
01:22:52,074 --> 01:22:54,675
in not getting
innocent people into trouble.

1686
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:56,510
<i>You're trying
to protect your friend.</i>

1687
01:22:56,544 --> 01:22:57,778
Who's protecting you?

1688
01:22:57,812 --> 01:22:59,214
Well, you could.

1689
01:22:59,247 --> 01:23:00,581
If you gave me the name.

1690
01:23:00,614 --> 01:23:02,550
If you order me to, I'll do it.

1691
01:23:02,583 --> 01:23:03,617
That's a mistake, Robert.

1692
01:23:03,651 --> 01:23:05,486
You need to volunteer this name.

1693
01:23:06,321 --> 01:23:07,989
<i>And did he give you the name?</i>

1694
01:23:08,023 --> 01:23:09,157
<i>He did.</i>

1695
01:23:09,191 --> 01:23:10,658
- But not then, did he?
- No.

1696
01:23:10,691 --> 01:23:12,160
No. In fact, it was some
months later, wasn't it?

1697
01:23:12,194 --> 01:23:14,096
It was.

1698
01:23:14,129 --> 01:23:15,230
You see me as persistent.

1699
01:23:15,263 --> 01:23:16,998
Well, you are...

1700
01:23:17,032 --> 01:23:18,866
you are persistent,
but that is your job.

1701
01:23:18,899 --> 01:23:22,603
And-and my job is to protect
the people that work for me.

1702
01:23:22,636 --> 01:23:24,638
Instead of us going
on certain steps,

1703
01:23:24,672 --> 01:23:26,774
which may come
to your attention...

1704
01:23:28,143 --> 01:23:29,910
...and be disturbing to you,

1705
01:23:29,944 --> 01:23:33,048
I would like to discuss
those with you first.

1706
01:23:33,081 --> 01:23:34,582
I'm not formulating a plan.

1707
01:23:34,615 --> 01:23:36,951
I'll just have to digest
the whole thing.

1708
01:23:40,588 --> 01:23:43,291
<i>In the months
in between your interview</i>

1709
01:23:43,325 --> 01:23:46,961
with Dr. Oppenheimer and his
eventual naming of Chevalier,

1710
01:23:46,994 --> 01:23:48,296
did you expend resources

1711
01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:49,797
trying to find the name
of the intermediary?

1712
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:52,300
Considerable resources, yes.

1713
01:23:52,334 --> 01:23:54,568
Without the name, our job
was extremely difficult.

1714
01:23:54,602 --> 01:23:56,038
And when did you
receive the name?

1715
01:23:56,071 --> 01:23:57,305
I was gone by the time.

1716
01:23:57,339 --> 01:23:59,774
-Oppenheimer finally offered it up.
-Gone?

1717
01:23:59,807 --> 01:24:01,976
They felt my time would be
better spent in Europe

1718
01:24:02,010 --> 01:24:04,745
determining the status
of the Nazi bomb project.

1719
01:24:04,779 --> 01:24:05,946
Who did?

1720
01:24:07,049 --> 01:24:08,783
General Groves.

1721
01:24:08,816 --> 01:24:10,584
He transferred me to London.

1722
01:24:17,025 --> 01:24:19,127
<i>It's a little early
for a Christmas party.</i>

1723
01:24:19,161 --> 01:24:21,163
Something's up.

1724
01:24:21,196 --> 01:24:23,231
Tolman's been away.

1725
01:24:23,265 --> 01:24:24,965
Where?

1726
01:24:24,999 --> 01:24:26,567
Ruth won't tell.

1727
01:24:31,106 --> 01:24:32,107
Hey!

1728
01:24:36,278 --> 01:24:37,812
Come on, Ruthie.

1729
01:24:37,845 --> 01:24:39,914
Can't tell me, who can you tell?

1730
01:24:39,947 --> 01:24:42,683
Compartmentalization, Oppie.

1731
01:24:42,716 --> 01:24:44,086
What makes you think
I know where he is anyway?

1732
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:45,820
'Cause you do a pretty good job

1733
01:24:45,853 --> 01:24:48,622
of knowing where Mr. Tolman is
when it counts.

1734
01:24:48,656 --> 01:24:50,192
Like now?

1735
01:24:50,225 --> 01:24:53,661
Attention!

1736
01:24:56,864 --> 01:24:58,799
Early Christmas present
for you all.

1737
01:25:06,874 --> 01:25:09,244
<i>The British pilots
put me in the bomb bay.</i>

1738
01:25:09,277 --> 01:25:11,279
Showed me the-the oxygen,
you know,

1739
01:25:11,313 --> 01:25:13,048
but I messed it up.

1740
01:25:13,081 --> 01:25:15,683
Uh, when they opened me up
in Scotland, I was unconscious.

1741
01:25:15,716 --> 01:25:17,918
But I pretended
I'd been napping.

1742
01:25:18,886 --> 01:25:20,322
Please enjoy your party.

1743
01:25:21,689 --> 01:25:22,990
Is it big enough?

1744
01:25:23,024 --> 01:25:24,292
To end the war?

1745
01:25:24,326 --> 01:25:27,229
To end all war.

1746
01:25:30,065 --> 01:25:34,136
Uh, Heisenberg sought me out
in Copenhagen.

1747
01:25:34,169 --> 01:25:35,903
It was chilling,

1748
01:25:35,936 --> 01:25:37,972
my old student
working for the Nazis.

1749
01:25:38,006 --> 01:25:41,909
He told me some things
to draw me out.

1750
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:46,148
Sustained fission reactions
in uranium.

1751
01:25:46,181 --> 01:25:48,383
That sounds more like
a reactor than a bomb.

1752
01:25:48,416 --> 01:25:49,850
Did he mention
gaseous diffusion?

1753
01:25:49,884 --> 01:25:52,154
He seemed more focused
on heavy water.

1754
01:25:52,187 --> 01:25:53,888
As a moderator?

1755
01:25:53,921 --> 01:25:55,290
Yes, instead of graphite.

1756
01:25:58,326 --> 01:25:59,693
What?

1757
01:25:59,727 --> 01:26:01,896
He took a wrong turn.

1758
01:26:01,929 --> 01:26:04,399
We're ahead. And with you here
to help us, Niels.

1759
01:26:04,432 --> 01:26:06,700
Sorry, could you...

1760
01:26:06,734 --> 01:26:09,670
could you give us a moment,
gentlemen?

1761
01:26:15,843 --> 01:26:18,380
I am not here to help, Robert.

1762
01:26:18,413 --> 01:26:20,315
I knew you could
do this without me.

1763
01:26:20,348 --> 01:26:21,449
Then why did you come?

1764
01:26:21,483 --> 01:26:22,917
To talk about after.

1765
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:24,919
The power you're about to reveal

1766
01:26:24,952 --> 01:26:27,155
will forever outlive the Nazis.

1767
01:26:28,223 --> 01:26:29,823
And the world is not prepared.

1768
01:26:29,857 --> 01:26:31,259
"You could lift the stone

1769
01:26:31,293 --> 01:26:33,928
without being ready
for the snake that's revealed."

1770
01:26:33,961 --> 01:26:35,330
We have to make
the politicians understand,

1771
01:26:35,363 --> 01:26:37,465
this isn't a new weapon.

1772
01:26:37,499 --> 01:26:38,966
It's a new world.

1773
01:26:38,999 --> 01:26:42,370
I'll be out there
doing what I can, but you...

1774
01:26:42,404 --> 01:26:44,972
you're an American Prometheus.

1775
01:26:45,006 --> 01:26:47,242
The man who gave them the power

1776
01:26:47,275 --> 01:26:49,311
to destroy themselves,

1777
01:26:49,344 --> 01:26:50,978
and they'll respect that.

1778
01:26:51,012 --> 01:26:53,181
And your work really begins.

1779
01:26:57,118 --> 01:27:00,255
I'm sorry, Oppie,
but there's a call.

1780
01:27:01,389 --> 01:27:04,125
From San Francisco.

1781
01:27:10,398 --> 01:27:12,100
Robert!

1782
01:27:15,337 --> 01:27:16,870
Robert?

1783
01:27:17,539 --> 01:27:20,108
Robert. Robert.

1784
01:27:20,141 --> 01:27:22,344
God, what's the matter?

1785
01:27:22,377 --> 01:27:24,145
What happened?

1786
01:27:25,013 --> 01:27:26,947
Her father called.

1787
01:27:26,981 --> 01:27:29,117
They found her yesterday
in the bath.

1788
01:27:30,118 --> 01:27:31,253
Who?

1789
01:27:32,254 --> 01:27:34,256
She'd taken pills.

1790
01:27:34,289 --> 01:27:36,191
<i>Left a note, not signed.</i>

1791
01:27:37,192 --> 01:27:38,159
She took barbiturates,

1792
01:27:38,193 --> 01:27:40,128
but there was chloral hydrate
in her blood.

1793
01:27:43,498 --> 01:27:44,832
There was a note.

1794
01:27:44,865 --> 01:27:47,168
Jean Tatlock?

1795
01:27:52,940 --> 01:27:54,942
We were together.

1796
01:27:54,975 --> 01:27:57,778
She said she needed me. I...

1797
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,816
I told her I... I wouldn't...

1798
01:28:02,850 --> 01:28:04,486
I told her I couldn't...

1799
01:28:04,519 --> 01:28:06,187
No, it was... it was me.

1800
01:28:09,190 --> 01:28:11,293
You don't get to commit the sin

1801
01:28:11,326 --> 01:28:13,128
and then have us all
feel sorry for you

1802
01:28:13,161 --> 01:28:16,031
that it had consequences.

1803
01:28:18,099 --> 01:28:20,302
You pull yourself together.

1804
01:28:23,971 --> 01:28:26,107
You know,
people here depend on you.

1805
01:28:28,610 --> 01:28:30,078
Donald, would you like

1806
01:28:30,111 --> 01:28:31,179
to contribute here?
Please, help me out.

1807
01:28:31,212 --> 01:28:32,414
You're on your own, pal.

1808
01:28:32,447 --> 01:28:33,548
Bob, I'm not quitting my job

1809
01:28:33,581 --> 01:28:34,915
because plutonium
is radioactive.

1810
01:28:34,948 --> 01:28:36,484
We just don't know
what it might do

1811
01:28:36,518 --> 01:28:38,253
to the female
reproductive system...

1812
01:28:38,286 --> 01:28:40,188
Your reproductive system is more
exposed than mine, presumably.

1813
01:28:40,221 --> 01:28:43,091
Can we please? The implosion
device is nowhere.

1814
01:28:43,124 --> 01:28:44,526
Hey, you can't rush everything.

1815
01:28:44,559 --> 01:28:46,094
- Oppie, please.
- Well, there's rushing

1816
01:28:46,127 --> 01:28:47,928
and there's getting on
with it, so pick one.

1817
01:28:47,961 --> 01:28:49,963
Wait. Neddermeyer's
doing his job.

1818
01:28:49,997 --> 01:28:50,931
Teller's not helping.

1819
01:28:50,964 --> 01:28:52,500
You're not helping.

1820
01:28:52,534 --> 01:28:53,934
I've been asking
for calculations

1821
01:28:53,967 --> 01:28:55,103
on the implosion lenses
for weeks.

1822
01:28:55,136 --> 01:28:56,604
The British can do it. Fuchs.

1823
01:28:56,638 --> 01:28:57,938
Absolutely.

1824
01:28:57,971 --> 01:28:59,341
It's your job, Teller.

1825
01:28:59,374 --> 01:29:01,176
I'm engaged in research.

1826
01:29:01,209 --> 01:29:03,877
On a hydrogen bomb
we're not even building.

1827
01:29:11,985 --> 01:29:13,355
I won't work for that man.

1828
01:29:15,123 --> 01:29:17,225
Let him go. He's a prima Donna.

1829
01:29:17,258 --> 01:29:19,494
I agree.
He should leave Los Alamos.

1830
01:29:19,527 --> 01:29:21,029
Okay.

1831
01:29:21,062 --> 01:29:22,930
Kisty, you replace Neddermeyer.

1832
01:29:22,963 --> 01:29:24,366
Seth, I'm putting you
on plutonium.

1833
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:27,502
Lilli, you go work for Kisty.
Because he needs you.

1834
01:29:27,535 --> 01:29:30,105
Fuchs, you take Teller's role.

1835
01:29:30,138 --> 01:29:32,507
I'm putting you exclusively
on the implosion device.

1836
01:29:32,540 --> 01:29:36,311
And no one is leaving
Los Alamos.

1837
01:29:50,558 --> 01:29:52,527
- They won't let me leave.
- No.

1838
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,162
I won't let you leave.

1839
01:29:55,029 --> 01:29:58,133
Forget Hans. Forget fission.

1840
01:29:58,166 --> 01:30:01,302
Stay here,
research what you want.

1841
01:30:01,336 --> 01:30:03,937
Fusion, the hydrogen bomb,
whatever.

1842
01:30:03,971 --> 01:30:05,140
We'll meet to discuss.

1843
01:30:05,173 --> 01:30:06,641
You don't have time to meet.

1844
01:30:06,674 --> 01:30:08,243
You're a politician now, Robert.

1845
01:30:08,276 --> 01:30:10,911
You've left physics behind
many, many years ago.

1846
01:30:11,746 --> 01:30:13,548
Once a week.

1847
01:30:13,581 --> 01:30:15,450
One hour. You and me.

1848
01:30:20,622 --> 01:30:23,191
Now raise this fucking barrier.

1849
01:30:27,128 --> 01:30:29,564
<i>So the Super
was under development</i>

1850
01:30:29,597 --> 01:30:31,566
<i>on your watch at Los Alamos?</i>

1851
01:30:31,599 --> 01:30:33,101
Yes.

1852
01:30:33,134 --> 01:30:35,002
And yet, after the war,

1853
01:30:35,036 --> 01:30:36,638
you tried to deny it was viable.

1854
01:30:36,671 --> 01:30:38,173
No, no, no. I...

1855
01:30:38,206 --> 01:30:40,041
I pointed out
technical difficulties with it.

1856
01:30:40,074 --> 01:30:41,709
You... Didn't you try
to kill it at the AEC meeting

1857
01:30:41,743 --> 01:30:43,311
- after the Russian bomb test?
- No.

1858
01:30:43,344 --> 01:30:45,447
But that was
the recommendation of the AEC,

1859
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:47,749
- was it not?
- After hours of discussion

1860
01:30:47,782 --> 01:30:50,051
<i>about the best response.</i>

1861
01:30:50,084 --> 01:30:55,190
An H-bomb is 1,000 times
the power of an A-bomb.

1862
01:30:56,357 --> 01:31:00,128
Its only intended target
would be the largest cities.

1863
01:31:00,161 --> 01:31:02,263
It's a weapon of mass genocide.

1864
01:31:02,297 --> 01:31:04,599
Izzy, draw some circles
on this side of the map

1865
01:31:04,632 --> 01:31:06,267
where they would target us.

1866
01:31:06,301 --> 01:31:08,336
- Starting with New York. D.C.
- That's fair.

1867
01:31:08,369 --> 01:31:11,139
It's a weapon of attack
with no defensive value.

1868
01:31:11,172 --> 01:31:12,707
- Deterrence.
- "Deterrence"?

1869
01:31:12,740 --> 01:31:14,342
Do we really need
more deterrence

1870
01:31:14,375 --> 01:31:16,778
than our current arsenal
of atomic bombs?

1871
01:31:16,811 --> 01:31:19,514
Y-You drown in ten feet
of water or-or 10,000,

1872
01:31:19,547 --> 01:31:21,216
what's the difference?

1873
01:31:21,249 --> 01:31:23,218
We can already drown Russia.
They know it.

1874
01:31:23,251 --> 01:31:25,520
- And now they can drown us.
- So we're just escalating...

1875
01:31:36,431 --> 01:31:39,267
As I said,
Teller's designs are still as

1876
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:41,236
impractical as they were
during the war.

1877
01:31:41,269 --> 01:31:44,239
A hydrogen bomb can be made
to work, Oppie, you know that.

1878
01:31:44,272 --> 01:31:45,406
I don't believe we should commit

1879
01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:47,342
all our resources
to that chance.

1880
01:31:47,375 --> 01:31:50,245
Then how would you have Truman
reassure the American people?

1881
01:31:50,278 --> 01:31:52,480
Simply by limiting the spread
of atomic weapons

1882
01:31:52,514 --> 01:31:55,817
through international control
on nuclear energy.

1883
01:31:55,850 --> 01:31:57,418
By which you mean
world government?

1884
01:31:57,452 --> 01:32:00,388
The United Nations
as Roosevelt intended.

1885
01:32:00,421 --> 01:32:03,324
Well, I... I asked what Truman
should do, right?

1886
01:32:03,358 --> 01:32:06,261
The world's changed,
it's not fascism but Communism

1887
01:32:06,294 --> 01:32:07,762
that now threatens our survival.

1888
01:32:07,795 --> 01:32:11,432
Lewis, do you understand,
if we build a hydrogen bomb,

1889
01:32:11,466 --> 01:32:14,335
the Russians will have no choice
but to build their own?

1890
01:32:14,369 --> 01:32:16,137
Could they be working
on one already?

1891
01:32:16,170 --> 01:32:18,673
Based on information gathered
from a spy at Los Alamos.

1892
01:32:18,706 --> 01:32:20,174
No spy at Los Alamos.

1893
01:32:20,208 --> 01:32:21,276
- Gentlemen.
- There wasn't?

1894
01:32:21,309 --> 01:32:22,544
Let's not get sidetracked.

1895
01:32:22,577 --> 01:32:24,279
I say we use this moment

1896
01:32:24,312 --> 01:32:25,713
to gain concessions
from the Russians

1897
01:32:25,747 --> 01:32:28,816
by committing that we will not
build a hydrogen bomb.

1898
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:30,485
Thereby revealing its existence.

1899
01:32:30,518 --> 01:32:32,520
Which you seem convinced
they already know.

1900
01:32:32,554 --> 01:32:34,155
All right.

1901
01:32:34,188 --> 01:32:36,291
At this point, I'd like
the committee members

1902
01:32:36,324 --> 01:32:40,261
to meet in privacy to finalize
our recommendations.

1903
01:32:41,396 --> 01:32:43,398
I'm just not sure you want
to go down this road.

1904
01:32:43,431 --> 01:32:45,700
Lewis, with respect,
we are the advisory committee,

1905
01:32:45,733 --> 01:32:47,502
we will give them our advice.

1906
01:32:47,535 --> 01:32:48,636
Good night.

1907
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,111
Dr. Oppenheimer?
Hi. William Borden.

1908
01:32:57,145 --> 01:32:58,479
Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy?

1909
01:32:58,513 --> 01:32:59,714
Oh, yes, yes.

1910
01:32:59,747 --> 01:33:01,382
During the war, I was a pilot.

1911
01:33:02,517 --> 01:33:05,253
One night,
flying back from a raid,

1912
01:33:05,286 --> 01:33:08,189
I saw an amazing sight
like a meteor.

1913
01:33:09,390 --> 01:33:12,160
<i>A V-2 rocket headed to England.</i>

1914
01:33:12,193 --> 01:33:14,195
I can't help but imagine
what it will be

1915
01:33:14,228 --> 01:33:18,132
for such an enemy rocket
to carry an atomic warhead.

1916
01:33:26,908 --> 01:33:28,242
Well, let's make sure
we're not the ones

1917
01:33:28,276 --> 01:33:29,577
to make that possible.

1918
01:33:36,284 --> 01:33:39,187
Oppie, I don't think you want
to go up against Strauss.

1919
01:33:39,220 --> 01:33:41,289
If we both speak,
they listen to me.

1920
01:33:41,322 --> 01:33:43,391
When you speak,
they hear a prophet.

1921
01:33:43,424 --> 01:33:45,393
When Strauss speaks,
they hear themselves.

1922
01:33:45,426 --> 01:33:47,228
They'll listen to a prophet.

1923
01:33:47,261 --> 01:33:50,531
A prophet can't be wrong.
Not once.

1924
01:33:50,565 --> 01:33:52,333
<i>Didn't you accuse Oppenheimer</i>

1925
01:33:52,367 --> 01:33:54,268
<i>of sabotaging the development
of the Super?</i>

1926
01:33:54,302 --> 01:33:55,903
I was never one of those

1927
01:33:55,937 --> 01:33:59,207
to bandy around terms
like "sabotage."

1928
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,209
<i>But Mr. Borden was?</i>

1929
01:34:01,242 --> 01:34:02,510
As I understand it, possibly.

1930
01:34:02,543 --> 01:34:04,646
How was Mr. Borden able
to put together

1931
01:34:04,679 --> 01:34:05,947
such a detailed indictment?

1932
01:34:05,980 --> 01:34:07,515
<i>He was no longer
a government employee,</i>

1933
01:34:07,548 --> 01:34:10,184
yet he appears to have
had unlimited access

1934
01:34:10,218 --> 01:34:11,719
to Dr. Oppenheimer's file.

1935
01:34:11,753 --> 01:34:14,656
<i>Might Mr. Nichols have
given him access to the file?</i>

1936
01:34:14,689 --> 01:34:16,591
Or someone else, at the AEC?

1937
01:34:16,624 --> 01:34:19,460
That's a very serious
accusation, Senator.

1938
01:34:19,494 --> 01:34:21,963
Is it your intention to
suggest that Dr. Oppenheimer

1939
01:34:21,996 --> 01:34:23,931
is disloyal
to the United States?

1940
01:34:23,965 --> 01:34:26,501
I've always assumed,
and still assume,

1941
01:34:26,534 --> 01:34:29,237
that he's loyal
to the United States.

1942
01:34:29,270 --> 01:34:30,705
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

1943
01:34:30,738 --> 01:34:33,541
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

1944
01:34:33,574 --> 01:34:35,343
<i>Do you or do you not believe</i>

1945
01:34:35,376 --> 01:34:37,745
<i>that Dr. Oppenheimer
is a security risk?</i>

1946
01:34:45,953 --> 01:34:47,588
And if I may,

1947
01:34:47,622 --> 01:34:50,425
when Hitler blew
his brains out in that bunker,

1948
01:34:50,458 --> 01:34:51,993
it's my humble opinion
that there is no need

1949
01:34:52,027 --> 01:34:53,494
for that bomb
to be seen anywhere

1950
01:34:53,528 --> 01:34:55,296
except for that test site.

1951
01:34:55,329 --> 01:34:57,331
But we at least
have to take a moment

1952
01:34:57,365 --> 01:34:59,367
to think about whether the means

1953
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,669
justify the ends
any longer, because...

1954
01:35:04,005 --> 01:35:06,574
Germany is about to surrender.

1955
01:35:08,476 --> 01:35:11,813
It's no longer the enemy
who are the greatest threat

1956
01:35:11,846 --> 01:35:13,648
to mankind, it's our work.

1957
01:35:16,051 --> 01:35:18,786
Hitler's dead, it's true.

1958
01:35:20,488 --> 01:35:22,024
But the Japanese fight on.

1959
01:35:22,057 --> 01:35:23,725
Their defeat seems assured.

1960
01:35:23,758 --> 01:35:26,761
Not if you're a G.I.
preparing to invade.

1961
01:35:28,063 --> 01:35:29,363
We can end this war.

1962
01:35:29,397 --> 01:35:30,798
But how do we justify

1963
01:35:30,832 --> 01:35:32,400
using this weapon
on human beings?

1964
01:35:35,436 --> 01:35:38,840
We're theorists, yes?

1965
01:35:38,873 --> 01:35:40,475
Yes. Yep.

1966
01:35:40,508 --> 01:35:44,545
We imagine a future
and our imaginings horrify us.

1967
01:35:45,613 --> 01:35:47,749
But they won't fear it
until they understand it,

1968
01:35:47,782 --> 01:35:50,685
and they won't understand it
until they've used it.

1969
01:35:50,718 --> 01:35:51,886
When the world learns

1970
01:35:51,919 --> 01:35:54,422
the terrible secret
of Los Alamos,

1971
01:35:54,455 --> 01:35:57,892
our work here will ensure
a peace mankind has never seen.

1972
01:35:57,925 --> 01:36:01,295
A peace based on the kind
of international cooperation

1973
01:36:01,329 --> 01:36:03,364
that Roosevelt always envisaged.

1974
01:36:08,469 --> 01:36:09,704
<i>Progress?</i>

1975
01:36:09,737 --> 01:36:12,507
Two years and
a billion dollars' worth?

1976
01:36:12,540 --> 01:36:14,308
Well, hard to put a price on it.

1977
01:36:14,342 --> 01:36:15,910
Not really,
just add up the bills.

1978
01:36:15,943 --> 01:36:17,645
"Rural free deliveries."

1979
01:36:17,678 --> 01:36:20,448
Eighty babies delivered
the first year.

1980
01:36:20,481 --> 01:36:22,817
This year,
we've had ten a month.

1981
01:36:22,850 --> 01:36:25,586
Birth control is a little out
of my jurisdiction, General.

1982
01:36:26,454 --> 01:36:28,790
- Clearly.
- General.

1983
01:36:33,761 --> 01:36:35,097
Head down, everyone.

1984
01:36:35,130 --> 01:36:37,298
Fuchs, head down.

1985
01:36:39,801 --> 01:36:40,968
Hmm?

1986
01:36:43,838 --> 01:36:45,573
That's the one.

1987
01:36:45,606 --> 01:36:48,509
Two viable bombs. I need a date.

1988
01:36:50,812 --> 01:36:52,647
September.

1989
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:53,681
July.

1990
01:36:53,714 --> 01:36:55,650
That's the sweet spot,
gentlemen.

1991
01:36:55,683 --> 01:36:57,852
August.

1992
01:36:57,885 --> 01:36:59,620
July.

1993
01:36:59,654 --> 01:37:01,455
Test in July.

1994
01:37:01,489 --> 01:37:03,125
But I need my brother.

1995
01:37:07,495 --> 01:37:09,430
Frank knows the desert,
he's left politics behind,

1996
01:37:09,463 --> 01:37:11,899
he's been working with
Lawrence for two years now.

1997
01:37:18,873 --> 01:37:20,708
What do we call the test?

1998
01:37:21,809 --> 01:37:25,580
"Batter my heart,
three-person'd god."

1999
01:37:25,613 --> 01:37:26,714
What?

2000
01:37:28,083 --> 01:37:29,483
Trinity.

2001
01:37:37,159 --> 01:37:38,526
You insisted

2002
01:37:38,559 --> 01:37:39,861
on bringing on
your brother Frank,

2003
01:37:39,894 --> 01:37:41,495
- a known Communist.
- A former Communist.

2004
01:37:41,529 --> 01:37:43,965
You brought a known
former Communist

2005
01:37:43,998 --> 01:37:47,869
onto America's most secret
and important defense project.

2006
01:37:47,902 --> 01:37:51,005
I knew my brother
could be trusted. Absolutely.

2007
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:53,008
And you felt
your judgment was sound

2008
01:37:53,041 --> 01:37:54,876
on who on the team
could be trusted?

2009
01:37:55,877 --> 01:37:57,012
Fuchs, head down.

2010
01:37:57,045 --> 01:37:58,779
Okay, everybody ready?

2011
01:38:00,148 --> 01:38:02,084
Hmm?

2012
01:38:02,117 --> 01:38:03,885
Oh.

2013
01:38:07,022 --> 01:38:08,156
Oh.

2014
01:38:08,190 --> 01:38:09,924
Well, I hope
you learned something.

2015
01:38:09,957 --> 01:38:11,859
Yeah, we learned we're gonna
need to be a lot further away.

2016
01:38:11,893 --> 01:38:13,461
Well, figure it out. Fast.

2017
01:38:13,494 --> 01:38:15,163
We leave for Washington
in the morning.

2018
01:38:15,197 --> 01:38:17,398
We're gonna give them a date.

2019
01:38:31,545 --> 01:38:33,215
You're a long way
from Chicago, Leo.

2020
01:38:33,248 --> 01:38:34,749
If we don't act now,

2021
01:38:34,782 --> 01:38:36,484
they're going to use
this thing against Japan.

2022
01:38:36,517 --> 01:38:38,486
We booked a meeting with Truman,

2023
01:38:38,519 --> 01:38:39,787
but somebody killed it.

2024
01:38:39,820 --> 01:38:41,689
You're meeting
the Secretary of War.

2025
01:38:41,722 --> 01:38:43,891
Just because we're building it,

2026
01:38:43,925 --> 01:38:45,927
doesn't mean we get to decide
how it's used.

2027
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,729
History will judge us, Robert.

2028
01:38:48,763 --> 01:38:52,067
In Chicago,
we put together a petition.

2029
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:54,036
I'm not...
I'm not getting into that.

2030
01:38:59,107 --> 01:39:01,043
Just tell me your concerns,
and I'll relay them.

2031
01:39:01,076 --> 01:39:02,177
My concerns?

2032
01:39:02,210 --> 01:39:04,179
Germany's defeated.

2033
01:39:04,212 --> 01:39:05,980
Japan's not going
to hold out alone.

2034
01:39:06,014 --> 01:39:07,915
How could you know that?
You got us into this.

2035
01:39:07,949 --> 01:39:09,717
You and Einstein
with your letter to Roosevelt

2036
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:12,553
- saying we could build a bomb.
- Against Germany.

2037
01:39:12,586 --> 01:39:15,523
That's not how weapons
manufacture works, Szilard.

2038
01:39:15,556 --> 01:39:16,691
Oppie, you have to help.

2039
01:39:16,724 --> 01:39:18,026
Fermi's in the meeting.

2040
01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:19,627
- Lawrence is in the meeting.
- They're not you.

2041
01:39:19,660 --> 01:39:21,829
You're the great salesman
of science.

2042
01:39:21,862 --> 01:39:24,465
You can convince
anyone of anything.

2043
01:39:25,167 --> 01:39:26,567
Even yourself.

2044
01:39:27,169 --> 01:39:28,569
'Scuse me.

2045
01:39:29,603 --> 01:39:32,873
The firestorm in Tokyo killed
100,000 people.

2046
01:39:32,907 --> 01:39:34,709
Mostly civilians.

2047
01:39:34,742 --> 01:39:37,279
I worry about an America
where we do these things

2048
01:39:37,312 --> 01:39:39,047
and no one protests.

2049
01:39:39,081 --> 01:39:42,117
Pearl Harbor and three years of
brutal conflict in the Pacific

2050
01:39:42,150 --> 01:39:44,685
bought us a lot of latitude
with the American public.

2051
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:46,754
Enough to unleash
the atomic bomb?

2052
01:39:46,787 --> 01:39:48,656
Uh, the A-bomb might not cause

2053
01:39:48,689 --> 01:39:50,591
as much damage
as the Tokyo bombings.

2054
01:39:50,624 --> 01:39:51,993
What are we estimating?

2055
01:39:52,027 --> 01:39:54,862
In a medium-size city, uh,

2056
01:39:54,895 --> 01:39:56,298
20 or 30,000 dead.

2057
01:39:56,331 --> 01:39:58,133
Yes, but, uh,

2058
01:39:58,166 --> 01:40:01,203
don't underestimate
the psychological impact of a...

2059
01:40:01,236 --> 01:40:02,636
of an atomic explosion.

2060
01:40:02,670 --> 01:40:06,907
A pillar of fire
10,000 feet tall.

2061
01:40:06,941 --> 01:40:10,278
Deadly neutron effects
for a mile, in all directions,

2062
01:40:10,312 --> 01:40:13,215
from one single device.

2063
01:40:13,248 --> 01:40:15,583
Dropped from
a barely noticed B-29,

2064
01:40:15,616 --> 01:40:17,885
the atomic bomb will be

2065
01:40:17,918 --> 01:40:20,755
a terrible revelation
of divine power.

2066
01:40:20,788 --> 01:40:24,059
If that's true,
it would be definitive.

2067
01:40:24,092 --> 01:40:26,161
World War II would be over.

2068
01:40:26,194 --> 01:40:27,895
Our boys would come home.

2069
01:40:27,928 --> 01:40:29,064
Military targets?

2070
01:40:30,198 --> 01:40:32,867
Uh, there aren't any big enough.

2071
01:40:32,900 --> 01:40:38,672
Perhaps a vital war plant
with workers housed nearby.

2072
01:40:38,706 --> 01:40:41,043
And we could issue a warning
to reduce civilian casualties.

2073
01:40:41,076 --> 01:40:43,245
They'd send everything
they have up against us,

2074
01:40:43,278 --> 01:40:44,879
and I'd be up in that plane.

2075
01:40:44,912 --> 01:40:48,116
But if we announce it
and it fails to go off,

2076
01:40:48,150 --> 01:40:50,851
we'd scupper any chance
of a Japanese surrender.

2077
01:40:50,885 --> 01:40:53,988
Is there no way to demonstrate
a bomb to Japan

2078
01:40:54,022 --> 01:40:55,723
to provoke surrender?

2079
01:40:55,756 --> 01:40:58,826
We intend to demonstrate it
in the most unambiguous terms.

2080
01:40:58,859 --> 01:40:59,560
Twice.

2081
01:40:59,593 --> 01:41:01,662
Once to show the weapon's power

2082
01:41:01,695 --> 01:41:04,199
and a second to show
that we can keep doing this

2083
01:41:04,232 --> 01:41:05,733
until they surrender.

2084
01:41:05,766 --> 01:41:09,137
We have a list of 12 cities
to choose from...

2085
01:41:09,171 --> 01:41:11,073
Sorry, 11.

2086
01:41:11,106 --> 01:41:12,807
I've taken Kyoto off the list

2087
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,644
due to its cultural significance
to the Japanese people.

2088
01:41:16,677 --> 01:41:19,314
Also, my wife and I
honeymooned there.

2089
01:41:19,347 --> 01:41:20,848
It's a magnificent city.

2090
01:41:24,419 --> 01:41:26,121
Let me make this
simple for you, gentlemen.

2091
01:41:26,154 --> 01:41:28,656
According to my intelligence,
which I cannot share with you,

2092
01:41:28,689 --> 01:41:31,126
the Japanese people
will not surrender

2093
01:41:31,159 --> 01:41:32,927
under any circumstances

2094
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,364
short of a successful and total
invasion of the home islands.

2095
01:41:36,398 --> 01:41:39,367
Many lives will be lost,
American and Japanese.

2096
01:41:39,401 --> 01:41:41,635
The use of the atomic bomb
on Japanese cities

2097
01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:43,637
will save lives.

2098
01:41:43,671 --> 01:41:45,973
If we retain moral advantage.

2099
01:41:46,007 --> 01:41:48,143
- How so?
- Well, if we use this weapon

2100
01:41:48,176 --> 01:41:51,113
without informing our allies,
they'll see it as a threat.

2101
01:41:51,146 --> 01:41:52,314
And we'll be in an arms race.

2102
01:41:52,347 --> 01:41:54,416
How open can we be
with the Soviets?

2103
01:41:54,449 --> 01:41:56,017
Secrecy won't stop the Soviets

2104
01:41:56,051 --> 01:41:58,420
from becoming part
of the atomic world.

2105
01:41:58,453 --> 01:42:00,754
We've been told
they have no uranium.

2106
01:42:00,788 --> 01:42:01,989
You've been misinformed.

2107
01:42:02,023 --> 01:42:03,858
A Russian bomb
is a matter of time.

2108
01:42:03,891 --> 01:42:07,295
The program needs to continue
at full pace after the war.

2109
01:42:07,329 --> 01:42:09,930
Uh, Secretary Stimson,
if I may...

2110
01:42:09,964 --> 01:42:13,968
Not all scientists
on the project are in agreement.

2111
01:42:14,001 --> 01:42:16,871
In fact, this might be a moment
to consider other opinions.

2112
01:42:16,904 --> 01:42:18,806
- If you talk a scientist in...
- The Manhattan Project

2113
01:42:18,839 --> 01:42:20,208
has been plagued from the start

2114
01:42:20,242 --> 01:42:24,045
by certain scientists
of doubtful discretion

2115
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:25,147
and uncertain loyalty.

2116
01:42:25,180 --> 01:42:27,415
One of them just tried to meet
with the president.

2117
01:42:27,449 --> 01:42:29,284
Now, we need these men,

2118
01:42:29,317 --> 01:42:30,851
but as soon as it's practical,

2119
01:42:30,885 --> 01:42:33,155
we should sever any such
scientists from the program.

2120
01:42:33,188 --> 01:42:34,755
Wouldn't you agree, Doctor?

2121
01:42:35,890 --> 01:42:37,725
If a Russian bomb is inevitable,

2122
01:42:37,758 --> 01:42:41,029
perhaps we should invite
their top scientists to Trinity.

2123
01:42:41,062 --> 01:42:43,365
President Truman
has no intention

2124
01:42:43,398 --> 01:42:44,965
of raising expectations

2125
01:42:44,999 --> 01:42:47,801
that Stalin be included
in the atomic project.

2126
01:42:47,835 --> 01:42:49,204
Informing him
of our breakthrough

2127
01:42:49,237 --> 01:42:50,838
and presenting it as a means
to win the war

2128
01:42:50,871 --> 01:42:53,774
need not make
unkeepable promises.

2129
01:42:53,807 --> 01:42:55,343
But the Potsdam
peace conference in July

2130
01:42:55,377 --> 01:42:57,279
will be President Truman's
last chance

2131
01:42:57,312 --> 01:42:59,447
to have that conversation.

2132
01:42:59,481 --> 01:43:01,383
Can you give us
a working bomb by then?

2133
01:43:02,350 --> 01:43:06,087
Absolutely. We will test fire
before the conference.

2134
01:43:10,824 --> 01:43:13,361
<i>Ground zero observation posts</i>

2135
01:43:13,395 --> 01:43:14,862
<i>at 10,000 yards</i>

2136
01:43:14,895 --> 01:43:17,065
north, south and west.

2137
01:43:17,098 --> 01:43:20,402
- Where do we trigger from?
- Uh, south 10,000.

2138
01:43:20,435 --> 01:43:23,771
And base camp
is ten miles south, here.

2139
01:43:23,804 --> 01:43:26,740
And there's a further
observation post

2140
01:43:26,774 --> 01:43:28,943
on-on that hill 20 miles away.

2141
01:43:28,976 --> 01:43:31,946
What's that, Frank?
Trigger lines already went in.

2142
01:43:31,979 --> 01:43:35,483
The Air Force requested
a line of lights for their B-29.

2143
01:43:35,517 --> 01:43:37,952
What B-29?
Our bomb's on the tower.

2144
01:43:37,985 --> 01:43:39,354
They want to use the test

2145
01:43:39,387 --> 01:43:41,223
to confirm a safe
operating distance.

2146
01:43:41,256 --> 01:43:42,490
That's risky.

2147
01:43:42,524 --> 01:43:44,159
Not as risky as dropping one
over Japan

2148
01:43:44,192 --> 01:43:45,960
and hoping that we were right
about the blast radius.

2149
01:43:45,993 --> 01:43:48,096
Don't let them slow us down,
we're firing on the 15th.

2150
01:43:48,129 --> 01:43:51,366
- The 15th? That's not...
- The 15th.

2151
01:43:51,399 --> 01:43:53,734
The 15th.

2152
01:43:54,835 --> 01:43:56,770
So I'll be here
at South Observation point

2153
01:43:56,804 --> 01:43:59,007
<i>with Frank and Kistiakowsky.</i>

2154
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,543
You'll all be assigned
to Base Camp,

2155
01:44:01,576 --> 01:44:04,778
West Observation
or Far Observation.

2156
01:44:14,422 --> 01:44:16,324
Whoa, whoa.
Careful with the knife.

2157
01:44:16,358 --> 01:44:18,792
There, carefully.

2158
01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:21,429
Are those safe distances?

2159
01:44:21,463 --> 01:44:23,964
They're based
on your calculations.

2160
01:44:23,998 --> 01:44:26,900
Time to stand behind
your science, Hans. Literally.

2161
01:44:50,325 --> 01:44:51,792
Yeah.

2162
01:44:56,464 --> 01:44:58,300
What 'bout the radiation cloud?

2163
01:44:58,333 --> 01:44:59,567
Without high winds,

2164
01:44:59,601 --> 01:45:01,169
it should settle
within two to three miles.

2165
01:45:01,202 --> 01:45:03,605
Evacuation measures
are in place.

2166
01:45:03,638 --> 01:45:05,440
But we need good weather
for visibility,

2167
01:45:05,473 --> 01:45:06,940
so it has to be fine.

2168
01:45:08,043 --> 01:45:09,311
Everybody out.

2169
01:45:19,487 --> 01:45:20,622
We go on the night of the 15th.

2170
01:45:20,655 --> 01:45:22,590
It's a hard deadline,

2171
01:45:22,624 --> 01:45:25,926
so if anyone has anything,
speak now.

2172
01:45:26,628 --> 01:45:27,961
Okay, stop, stop.

2173
01:45:27,995 --> 01:45:29,863
Everybody, mattresses.

2174
01:45:29,897 --> 01:45:31,965
Put the mattress underneath.

2175
01:45:48,949 --> 01:45:51,852
Could use
a final implosion test.

2176
01:45:52,554 --> 01:45:54,522
It couldn't hurt.

2177
01:45:54,556 --> 01:45:56,057
Do it.

2178
01:45:57,025 --> 01:45:59,327
Is there anything else
that might stop us?

2179
01:46:33,428 --> 01:46:36,331
It's happening, isn't it?

2180
01:46:37,432 --> 01:46:39,200
I'll send a message.

2181
01:46:40,068 --> 01:46:42,704
If it's gone our way,

2182
01:46:42,737 --> 01:46:44,305
take in the sheets.

2183
01:46:48,343 --> 01:46:49,377
Robert?

2184
01:46:52,046 --> 01:46:53,481
Break a leg.

2185
01:48:00,048 --> 01:48:03,184
Oppie's taken a very modest
three kilotons.

2186
01:48:03,218 --> 01:48:05,587
- Teller's in with 45.
- 20.

2187
01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:08,056
Twenty thousand tons of TNT,

2188
01:48:08,089 --> 01:48:09,491
and does anyone want
the side action

2189
01:48:09,524 --> 01:48:12,260
on atmospheric ignition?

2190
01:48:13,228 --> 01:48:16,164
Are you saying
we'll have to delay?

2191
01:48:16,197 --> 01:48:17,365
I'm saying it would be prudent.

2192
01:48:17,398 --> 01:48:18,633
This weather,
has it reached the site?

2193
01:48:24,472 --> 01:48:26,441
Bethe is calling to tell you
the implosion test failed.

2194
01:48:26,474 --> 01:48:28,109
Hello, Hans.

2195
01:48:28,142 --> 01:48:29,544
Yes, he's here.

2196
01:48:30,378 --> 01:48:31,713
Yes.

2197
01:48:34,282 --> 01:48:35,483
- Is he wrong?
- No.

2198
01:48:35,517 --> 01:48:37,418
- No?
- No.

2199
01:48:38,253 --> 01:48:39,821
So we're about to fire a dud?

2200
01:48:39,854 --> 01:48:41,322
- No.
- Explain.

2201
01:48:41,356 --> 01:48:44,125
Well, I can't. I just...
I-I just know.

2202
01:48:44,158 --> 01:48:45,827
I know the implosion lenses
will work.

2203
01:48:45,860 --> 01:48:47,262
If we fire these detonators

2204
01:48:47,295 --> 01:48:48,530
and they don't
trigger a reaction,

2205
01:48:48,563 --> 01:48:50,231
two years' worth of plutonium

2206
01:48:50,265 --> 01:48:51,666
will be scattered
across White Sands.

2207
01:48:51,699 --> 01:48:55,603
A month of my salary against
ten bucks says it lights.

2208
01:48:55,637 --> 01:48:57,639
Jesus.

2209
01:49:02,710 --> 01:49:05,847
The wind's picking
up at zero, not the rain.

2210
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,315
Lightning's circling.

2211
01:49:07,348 --> 01:49:08,783
You think it might be time
to tell your men

2212
01:49:08,816 --> 01:49:11,719
to get away from the steel tower
with the atomic bomb?

2213
01:49:14,856 --> 01:49:16,824
Let's get to South Observation.

2214
01:49:16,858 --> 01:49:18,326
Pull 'em out.

2215
01:49:18,359 --> 01:49:19,761
We can make
our determination there.

2216
01:49:25,166 --> 01:49:27,168
The team hasn't slept
in two nights.

2217
01:49:27,201 --> 01:49:29,203
If we stand down,
make the bomb safe,

2218
01:49:29,237 --> 01:49:30,572
we won't be back here for weeks.

2219
01:49:30,605 --> 01:49:32,273
Then we'll miss Potsdam.

2220
01:49:32,307 --> 01:49:34,208
I gotta get word
to Truman by 7:00.

2221
01:49:34,242 --> 01:49:35,476
Our window's closing.

2222
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:36,578
What is this doing?

2223
01:49:36,611 --> 01:49:38,112
Raining, blowing, lightning.

2224
01:49:38,146 --> 01:49:40,181
- For how long, damn it?
- It's holdin' strong.

2225
01:49:40,214 --> 01:49:41,516
It'll break before dawn.

2226
01:49:41,549 --> 01:49:43,217
- How could you know that?
- I know this desert.

2227
01:49:43,251 --> 01:49:44,352
Storm cools overnight.

2228
01:49:44,385 --> 01:49:46,187
Just before dawn,
the storm breaks.

2229
01:49:46,220 --> 01:49:48,423
He could be right, but schedule
as late as possible.

2230
01:49:48,456 --> 01:49:50,191
5:30!

2231
01:49:50,224 --> 01:49:51,259
Sign your forecast.

2232
01:49:51,292 --> 01:49:52,360
If you're wrong, I'll hang you.

2233
01:49:52,393 --> 01:49:54,195
Frank, tell them all, 5:30.

2234
01:49:54,228 --> 01:49:56,364
- 5:30, 5:30.
- 5:30.

2235
01:49:58,566 --> 01:50:03,504
Three years,
4,000 people, $2 billion.

2236
01:50:03,538 --> 01:50:05,907
Well, if it doesn't go off...

2237
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:07,542
we're both finished.

2238
01:50:10,311 --> 01:50:12,280
I'm betting on three kilotons.

2239
01:50:13,247 --> 01:50:14,682
Anything less,
they won't get what it is.

2240
01:50:14,716 --> 01:50:19,287
What did Fermi mean
by "atmospheric ignition"?

2241
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,788
Well, we had a moment
where it looked like

2242
01:50:20,822 --> 01:50:24,659
the chain reaction from an
atomic device might never stop.

2243
01:50:25,893 --> 01:50:27,929
Setting fire to the atmosphere.

2244
01:50:27,962 --> 01:50:29,931
Why is Fermi
still taking side bets on it?

2245
01:50:29,964 --> 01:50:33,134
Call it gallows humor.

2246
01:50:35,470 --> 01:50:38,272
Wait, are we saying
there's a chance

2247
01:50:38,306 --> 01:50:40,174
that when we push that button,

2248
01:50:40,208 --> 01:50:41,542
we destroy the world?

2249
01:50:41,576 --> 01:50:43,745
Nothing in our research
over three years

2250
01:50:43,778 --> 01:50:45,413
supports that conclusion.

2251
01:50:45,446 --> 01:50:48,416
Except as the most
remote possibility.

2252
01:50:48,449 --> 01:50:49,784
How remote?

2253
01:50:49,817 --> 01:50:51,419
Chances are near zero.

2254
01:50:52,754 --> 01:50:54,155
Near zero?

2255
01:50:54,922 --> 01:50:57,492
What do you want
from theory alone?

2256
01:50:58,993 --> 01:51:01,362
Zero would be nice.

2257
01:51:04,666 --> 01:51:06,300
In exactly

2258
01:51:06,334 --> 01:51:09,637
one hour, 58 minutes,

2259
01:51:09,671 --> 01:51:11,205
we'll know.

2260
01:51:17,245 --> 01:51:18,446
It's letting up.

2261
01:51:31,325 --> 01:51:33,695
The arming party's left Zero,
they're heading this way.

2262
01:51:33,728 --> 01:51:34,696
Throwing the switches.

2263
01:51:34,729 --> 01:51:35,830
Turn the cars.

2264
01:51:35,863 --> 01:51:38,332
Ready for emergency evacuation.

2265
01:51:56,018 --> 01:51:57,251
...welder's glass.

2266
01:51:57,285 --> 01:51:58,853
Everybody take your places.

2267
01:51:58,886 --> 01:52:01,389
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2268
01:52:02,890 --> 01:52:04,759
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2269
01:52:55,977 --> 01:52:57,378
Twenty minutes.

2270
01:53:00,882 --> 01:53:02,717
Twenty minutes.

2271
01:53:13,895 --> 01:53:15,429
That's 20.

2272
01:53:18,432 --> 01:53:19,901
On the leg, please.

2273
01:53:21,435 --> 01:53:23,938
- Feynman.
- No.

2274
01:53:23,971 --> 01:53:25,940
The glass. Stops the U.V.

2275
01:53:25,973 --> 01:53:27,775
And what stops the glass?

2276
01:53:28,776 --> 01:53:31,746
I'm gonna head to base camp.
Best of luck.

2277
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,415
Robert.

2278
01:53:35,017 --> 01:53:36,851
Try not to blow up the world.

2279
01:53:48,729 --> 01:53:49,831
Watch that needle.

2280
01:53:49,864 --> 01:53:51,432
If the detonators don't charge

2281
01:53:51,465 --> 01:53:53,401
or the voltage drops
below one volt,

2282
01:53:53,434 --> 01:53:55,436
you hit that button, you abort.

2283
01:53:55,469 --> 01:53:57,772
- Understood?
- Understood.

2284
01:54:05,180 --> 01:54:07,715
Two minutes to detonation.

2285
01:54:07,748 --> 01:54:09,717
Everybody down.

2286
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:10,718
Do not turn around

2287
01:54:10,751 --> 01:54:13,821
until you see light
reflected on the hills.

2288
01:54:13,855 --> 01:54:14,989
Then look at the explosion

2289
01:54:15,023 --> 01:54:16,657
only through
your welder's glass.

2290
01:54:16,691 --> 01:54:19,393
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2291
01:54:21,029 --> 01:54:23,865
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2292
01:54:23,898 --> 01:54:26,000
Is it rubbed in?

2293
01:54:26,034 --> 01:54:27,401
Yeah.

2294
01:54:33,741 --> 01:54:36,844
Sixty seconds to detonation.

2295
01:54:51,525 --> 01:54:53,761
These things are hard
on your heart.

2296
01:54:53,794 --> 01:54:55,496
Thirty seconds.

2297
01:55:00,601 --> 01:55:02,003
Detonators charged.

2298
01:55:12,147 --> 01:55:15,616
Seventeen, sixteen,

2299
01:55:15,650 --> 01:55:16,817
fifteen,

2300
01:55:16,851 --> 01:55:18,020
fourteen,

2301
01:55:18,053 --> 01:55:19,854
thirteen,

2302
01:55:19,887 --> 01:55:22,057
twelve,

2303
01:55:22,090 --> 01:55:23,758
eleven,

2304
01:55:23,791 --> 01:55:25,760
ten,

2305
01:55:25,793 --> 01:55:28,196
nine,

2306
01:55:28,230 --> 01:55:30,198
eight,

2307
01:55:30,232 --> 01:55:32,800
seven,

2308
01:55:32,833 --> 01:55:35,203
six...

2309
01:55:35,237 --> 01:55:36,704
...five...

2310
01:55:38,706 --> 01:55:41,176
...four...

2311
01:55:41,209 --> 01:55:43,145
three...

2312
01:55:43,178 --> 01:55:44,712
two...

2313
01:55:46,014 --> 01:55:47,082
...one.

2314
01:56:08,602 --> 01:56:10,538
Poof.

2315
01:57:19,341 --> 01:57:22,710
<i>"And now I am become Death."</i>

2316
01:57:24,612 --> 01:57:26,781
<i>"The destroyer of worlds."</i>

2317
01:57:59,780 --> 01:58:01,149
It worked.

2318
01:58:36,384 --> 01:58:38,386
- You owe me ten dollars!
- Oh!

2319
01:58:40,721 --> 01:58:41,856
- Come on!
- Hang on.

2320
01:58:41,889 --> 01:58:43,325
I'm good for it, Kisty.

2321
01:58:43,358 --> 01:58:45,659
You are.

2322
01:58:45,693 --> 01:58:48,396
Yes, you are!

2323
01:59:12,487 --> 01:59:14,022
Well done.

2324
01:59:15,723 --> 01:59:18,260
We did it! We did it!

2325
01:59:18,293 --> 01:59:20,195
Well done.

2326
01:59:24,999 --> 01:59:26,834
- Get me Potsdam right away.
- Yes, sir.

2327
01:59:38,313 --> 01:59:40,081
Get a message to Kitty.

2328
01:59:40,115 --> 01:59:40,814
We can't say anything.

2329
01:59:40,848 --> 01:59:42,783
Tell her to take in the sheets.

2330
01:59:50,791 --> 01:59:52,327
We did it, everyone!

2331
01:59:57,199 --> 01:59:58,999
Hello?

2332
01:59:59,034 --> 02:00:01,469
- Hi, Kitty?
- What, what? Charlotte...

2333
02:00:01,503 --> 02:00:02,870
Charlotte, go ahead, go ahead.

2334
02:00:02,903 --> 02:00:04,272
Oh, um, well, I don't know,

2335
02:00:04,306 --> 02:00:07,509
he just said to tell you
to "bring in the sheets."

2336
02:00:10,212 --> 02:00:11,779
Kitty?

2337
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:15,317
Kitty?
Kitty, are you still there?

2338
02:00:22,224 --> 02:00:24,359
<i>If they detonate it
too high in the air,</i>

2339
02:00:24,392 --> 02:00:25,759
the blast won't be as powerful.

2340
02:00:25,793 --> 02:00:27,828
With respect, Dr. Oppenheimer,

2341
02:00:27,861 --> 02:00:29,897
we'll take it from here.

2342
02:00:40,141 --> 02:00:43,044
Did Truman brief Stalin
at Potsdam?

2343
02:00:43,078 --> 02:00:45,813
A brief would be
an overstatement.

2344
02:00:45,846 --> 02:00:49,917
He referred
to a powerful new weapon.

2345
02:00:49,950 --> 02:00:55,023
Stalin hoped we'd use it
against Japan.

2346
02:00:56,258 --> 02:00:57,992
That's it?

2347
02:00:58,026 --> 02:01:01,263
Robert, we've given them an ace,
it's for them to play the hand.

2348
02:01:03,398 --> 02:01:05,500
You're aiming for the 6th?

2349
02:01:05,533 --> 02:01:07,835
It's up to the CO
in the Pacific.

2350
02:01:09,170 --> 02:01:11,239
Shall I come with you
to Washington?

2351
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,075
What for?

2352
02:01:16,344 --> 02:01:17,945
Well, you'll keep me informed.

2353
02:01:19,281 --> 02:01:20,914
Of course.

2354
02:01:22,484 --> 02:01:24,085
As best I can.

2355
02:01:41,503 --> 02:01:44,372
Would the Japanese surrender
if they knew what was coming?

2356
02:01:45,607 --> 02:01:47,208
I don't know.

2357
02:01:49,611 --> 02:01:51,613
Have you seen
Szilard's petition?

2358
02:01:51,646 --> 02:01:54,382
What the hell does Szilard
know about the Japanese?

2359
02:01:54,416 --> 02:01:55,617
You're not signing it, are you?

2360
02:01:55,650 --> 02:01:59,054
Many people have.
A lot of people have.

2361
02:01:59,087 --> 02:02:00,221
Edward.

2362
02:02:01,489 --> 02:02:03,158
The fact that we built this bomb

2363
02:02:03,191 --> 02:02:06,194
does not give us any more...
any more right or responsibility

2364
02:02:06,227 --> 02:02:08,330
to decide how it's used
than anyone else.

2365
02:02:08,363 --> 02:02:10,365
But we're the only people
who know about it.

2366
02:02:10,398 --> 02:02:13,967
I've told Stimson the various
opinions of the community.

2367
02:02:14,001 --> 02:02:15,403
But what's your opinion?

2368
02:02:16,638 --> 02:02:18,173
Once it's used...

2369
02:02:19,274 --> 02:02:22,976
...nuclear war,
perhaps all war...

2370
02:02:24,579 --> 02:02:26,014
...becomes unthinkable.

2371
02:02:26,047 --> 02:02:29,050
Until somebody
builds a bigger bomb.

2372
02:02:49,637 --> 02:02:51,373
I thought they would call.

2373
02:02:51,406 --> 02:02:52,973
It's only the 5th.

2374
02:02:55,143 --> 02:02:57,145
In Japan, it's the 6th.

2375
02:03:10,291 --> 02:03:11,292
Charlotte.

2376
02:03:13,628 --> 02:03:15,330
Try Groves.

2377
02:03:16,331 --> 02:03:17,399
<i>Anything?</i>

2378
02:03:19,701 --> 02:03:21,069
Charlotte?

2379
02:03:21,102 --> 02:03:22,404
Truman's on the radio.

2380
02:03:23,338 --> 02:03:26,241
Sixteen hours ago,

2381
02:03:26,274 --> 02:03:32,180
an American airplane dropped
one bomb on Hiroshima...

2382
02:03:33,214 --> 02:03:36,351
...and destroyed its usefulness
to the enemy.

2383
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:44,192
The bomb had more power
than 20,000 tons of TNT.

2384
02:03:45,660 --> 02:03:48,129
It is an atomic bomb.

2385
02:03:51,332 --> 02:03:52,700
It is a harnessing

2386
02:03:52,734 --> 02:03:55,503
of the basic powers
of the universe.

2387
02:03:57,539 --> 02:03:59,174
<i>Groves on one.</i>

2388
02:03:59,207 --> 02:04:02,243
We are now prepared
to destroy more rapidly

2389
02:04:02,277 --> 02:04:04,579
and completely the Japanese...

2390
02:04:04,612 --> 02:04:06,281
General?

2391
02:04:06,314 --> 02:04:09,350
I'm very proud of you
and all of your people.

2392
02:04:09,384 --> 02:04:10,718
It went all right?

2393
02:04:10,752 --> 02:04:13,721
Apparently, it went
with a tremendous bang.

2394
02:04:13,755 --> 02:04:15,390
Well,

2395
02:04:15,423 --> 02:04:18,359
everyone here is feeling
reasonably good about it.

2396
02:04:19,794 --> 02:04:21,429
It's been a long road.

2397
02:04:21,463 --> 02:04:24,265
I think one of
the wisest things I ever did

2398
02:04:24,299 --> 02:04:27,335
was when I selected
the director of Los Alamos.

2399
02:04:29,704 --> 02:04:32,040
<i>We have spent</i>

2400
02:04:32,073 --> 02:04:34,075
<i>more than $2 billion</i>

2401
02:04:34,108 --> 02:04:38,346
<i>on the greatest
scientific gamble in history,</i>

2402
02:04:38,379 --> 02:04:41,216
<i>and we have won.</i>

2403
02:04:44,752 --> 02:04:47,455
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2404
02:04:47,489 --> 02:04:49,491
Oppie! Oppie!

2405
02:04:49,524 --> 02:04:52,727
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2406
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:54,596
Oppie! Oppie!

2407
02:04:54,629 --> 02:04:57,398
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2408
02:04:57,432 --> 02:05:00,768
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2409
02:05:00,802 --> 02:05:05,406
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2410
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:06,774
Oppie! Oppie!

2411
02:05:06,808 --> 02:05:09,377
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2412
02:06:08,469 --> 02:06:09,571
The world...

2413
02:06:11,573 --> 02:06:12,707
...will remember this day.

2414
02:06:31,626 --> 02:06:33,361
It's too soon to...

2415
02:06:34,228 --> 02:06:35,897
It's too soon to determine

2416
02:06:35,930 --> 02:06:38,299
what the results
of the bombing are.

2417
02:06:41,235 --> 02:06:42,837
But I'll bet the Japanese
didn't like it.

2418
02:07:03,725 --> 02:07:05,259
I'm so proud.

2419
02:07:06,394 --> 02:07:08,529
So proud of what
you have accomplished.

2420
02:07:14,836 --> 02:07:18,673
I just wish we had it in time
to use against the Germans.

2421
02:09:08,516 --> 02:09:10,384
Dr. Oppenheimer?

2422
02:09:10,985 --> 02:09:13,287
Dr. Oppenheimer?

2423
02:09:13,321 --> 02:09:14,989
- Nice picture.
- Oh.

2424
02:09:15,023 --> 02:09:17,358
President Truman
will see you now.

2425
02:09:31,073 --> 02:09:33,908
Dr. Oppenheimer. It's an honor.

2426
02:09:33,941 --> 02:09:35,877
- Mr. President.
- Please.

2427
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:37,712
Thank you.

2428
02:09:37,745 --> 02:09:39,280
Secretary Byrnes.

2429
02:09:40,481 --> 02:09:42,483
How's it feel to be

2430
02:09:42,517 --> 02:09:44,552
the most famous man
in the world?

2431
02:09:45,553 --> 02:09:48,623
You helped save a lot
of American lives.

2432
02:09:48,656 --> 02:09:51,026
What we did
at Hiroshima was a...

2433
02:09:51,059 --> 02:09:52,994
And Nagasaki.

2434
02:09:53,028 --> 02:09:55,030
Well, obviously.

2435
02:09:55,063 --> 02:09:59,000
Your invention let us
bring our boys home.

2436
02:09:59,034 --> 02:10:02,403
Well, it was hardly
my invention.

2437
02:10:02,436 --> 02:10:04,705
It was you on the cover of <i>Time.</i>

2438
02:10:07,575 --> 02:10:09,111
Jim tells me you're concerned

2439
02:10:09,144 --> 02:10:10,912
about an arms race
with the Soviets.

2440
02:10:10,945 --> 02:10:13,314
Uh, yes, uh...

2441
02:10:14,016 --> 02:10:15,516
Well, um,

2442
02:10:15,550 --> 02:10:20,655
it's that, uh, now is
our chance to secure

2443
02:10:20,688 --> 02:10:23,558
international cooperation on
atomic energy,

2444
02:10:23,591 --> 02:10:26,627
and... and I'm concerned...

2445
02:10:26,661 --> 02:10:28,896
Do you know when the Soviets
are gonna have the bomb?

2446
02:10:28,930 --> 02:10:30,865
I don't think I could give a...

2447
02:10:30,898 --> 02:10:32,301
Never.

2448
02:10:32,934 --> 02:10:34,569
Never.

2449
02:10:34,602 --> 02:10:37,772
Mr. President, the-the Russians
have good physicists

2450
02:10:37,805 --> 02:10:39,440
and-and...
and abundant resources.

2451
02:10:39,473 --> 02:10:41,576
- Abundant?
- Yes.

2452
02:10:41,609 --> 02:10:44,879
I don't think so.

2453
02:10:44,912 --> 02:10:48,449
Well, they'll-they'll put
everything they have and...

2454
02:10:51,719 --> 02:10:55,590
I hear you're leaving
Los Alamos.

2455
02:10:56,858 --> 02:10:57,959
What should we do with it?

2456
02:10:57,992 --> 02:11:00,494
Give it back to the Indians.

2457
02:11:07,902 --> 02:11:11,139
Um... Dr. Oppenheimer,

2458
02:11:11,173 --> 02:11:13,507
if what you say about
the Soviets is true,

2459
02:11:13,541 --> 02:11:16,944
we have to build up Los Alamos,

2460
02:11:16,978 --> 02:11:18,880
not shut it down.

2461
02:11:22,117 --> 02:11:23,918
Uh, Mr. President...

2462
02:11:24,986 --> 02:11:26,487
Um...

2463
02:11:29,157 --> 02:11:32,827
I feel that I have blood
on my hands.

2464
02:11:52,613 --> 02:11:57,919
You think anyone
in Hiroshima or Nagasaki

2465
02:11:57,952 --> 02:12:00,988
gives a shit who built the bomb?

2466
02:12:04,159 --> 02:12:06,527
They care who dropped it.

2467
02:12:07,229 --> 02:12:09,497
I did.

2468
02:12:10,731 --> 02:12:13,701
Hiroshima isn't about you.

2469
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:21,976
Dr. Oppenheimer.

2470
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,723
Don't let that crybaby
back in here.

2471
02:12:40,828 --> 02:12:43,864
<i>Robert saw that
hand-wringing got him nowhere.</i>

2472
02:12:43,898 --> 02:12:47,235
<i>By the time I'd met him,
he'd fully embraced</i>

2473
02:12:47,269 --> 02:12:49,837
<i>his "father of the bomb"
reputation.</i>

2474
02:12:49,870 --> 02:12:52,274
Used his profile
to influence policy.

2475
02:13:01,749 --> 02:13:03,118
<i>Doctor, in the years
following the war,</i>

2476
02:13:03,151 --> 02:13:05,287
would you say that
you exerted a great influence

2477
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:07,122
on the atomic policies
of the USA?

2478
02:13:07,155 --> 02:13:09,857
<i>I think great
would be an overstatement.</i>

2479
02:13:09,890 --> 02:13:11,859
Really? If we look
at the issue of isotopes,

2480
02:13:11,892 --> 02:13:13,594
were you not
personally responsible

2481
02:13:13,627 --> 02:13:15,663
for destroying all opposition
to their export?

2482
02:13:15,696 --> 02:13:18,566
Could use a-a bottle of beer...

2483
02:13:18,599 --> 02:13:20,268
...when making atomic weapons.
In fact, you do.

2484
02:13:20,302 --> 02:13:22,770
I was the spokesman,
but the-the opinion

2485
02:13:22,803 --> 02:13:24,605
among scientists was unanimous.

2486
02:13:24,638 --> 02:13:26,308
All along with McCarthy
on the rise,

2487
02:13:26,341 --> 02:13:27,742
he knew he was vulnerable.

2488
02:13:27,775 --> 02:13:29,144
His brother was blacklisted

2489
02:13:29,177 --> 02:13:32,080
by every university
in the country.

2490
02:13:33,181 --> 02:13:36,018
Lomanitz wound up working
the railroad, laying track.

2491
02:13:38,619 --> 02:13:40,055
And Chevalier went into exile.

2492
02:13:43,191 --> 02:13:44,625
But none of that

2493
02:13:44,658 --> 02:13:46,627
stopped Robert
from pushing the GAC

2494
02:13:46,660 --> 02:13:49,530
to recommend arms control
instead of the H-bomb.

2495
02:13:51,333 --> 02:13:52,800
He was devastated

2496
02:13:52,833 --> 02:13:54,902
when Truman rejected
their recommendation.

2497
02:13:56,637 --> 02:13:59,174
I miss Richard
more than I can bear.

2498
02:13:59,207 --> 02:14:00,975
I know, Ruth, I know.

2499
02:14:01,009 --> 02:14:04,112
Part of me's glad he didn't live
to see where this is all going.

2500
02:14:06,881 --> 02:14:08,316
Here comes the birthday boy.

2501
02:14:08,350 --> 02:14:10,951
- To gloat.
- Have fun.

2502
02:14:11,952 --> 02:14:14,322
Robert, uh, my son and his
fiancée are desperate to meet

2503
02:14:14,356 --> 02:14:16,324
the father of the atomic bomb,
and so...

2504
02:14:16,358 --> 02:14:19,161
Well. Good day.

2505
02:14:25,233 --> 02:14:27,335
Is this a bad time?

2506
02:14:27,369 --> 02:14:28,869
What do you think, Lewis?

2507
02:14:28,903 --> 02:14:30,971
Well, I think it must have
been a blow for you.

2508
02:14:31,005 --> 02:14:33,141
For the world.

2509
02:14:33,175 --> 02:14:34,809
The world?

2510
02:14:34,842 --> 02:14:38,813
What does Fuchs mean
to the rest of the world?

2511
02:14:38,846 --> 02:14:40,248
Fuchs?

2512
02:14:40,282 --> 02:14:41,882
Klaus Fuchs?

2513
02:14:43,318 --> 02:14:45,719
Oh, dear. You haven't heard.

2514
02:14:48,889 --> 02:14:50,758
Klaus Fuchs, the British
scientist that you put

2515
02:14:50,791 --> 02:14:53,828
onto the implosion team
at Los Alamos,

2516
02:14:53,861 --> 02:14:55,996
<i>turns out he was...</i>

2517
02:14:56,031 --> 02:14:59,301
he was spying for the Soviets
the whole time.

2518
02:14:59,334 --> 02:15:00,868
I'm sorry.

2519
02:15:06,041 --> 02:15:08,943
<i>After the truth
about Fuchs came out,</i>

2520
02:15:08,976 --> 02:15:11,079
the FBI stepped up
surveillance on him.

2521
02:15:11,113 --> 02:15:14,982
He knew his phone was tapped,
he was followed everywhere...

2522
02:15:16,351 --> 02:15:17,785
...his trash picked through.

2523
02:15:21,789 --> 02:15:23,258
But never stopped
speaking his mind.

2524
02:15:23,291 --> 02:15:25,960
A man of conviction.

2525
02:15:25,993 --> 02:15:28,829
And maybe he thought fame
could actually protect him.

2526
02:15:30,332 --> 02:15:33,767
When Eisenhower took office,
he saw one more chance.

2527
02:15:35,170 --> 02:15:36,204
He took it.

2528
02:15:36,238 --> 02:15:38,706
America and Russia

2529
02:15:38,739 --> 02:15:43,011
may be likened
to two scorpions in a bottle,

2530
02:15:43,044 --> 02:15:46,414
each capable
of killing the other

2531
02:15:46,448 --> 02:15:49,151
but only at the risk
of his own life.

2532
02:15:49,184 --> 02:15:51,952
Now, there are various aspects
of this policy...

2533
02:15:51,986 --> 02:15:53,988
<i>Lot of scientists blame me,</i>

2534
02:15:54,022 --> 02:15:57,159
<i>but how was I supposed
to protect him?</i>

2535
02:15:57,192 --> 02:15:59,161
...too secret for discussion,

2536
02:15:59,194 --> 02:16:01,196
candor is the only remedy.

2537
02:16:01,229 --> 02:16:02,763
Officials in Washington

2538
02:16:02,796 --> 02:16:04,299
need to start leveling
with the American people.

2539
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,836
That was the last straw
for Robert's enemies.

2540
02:16:08,869 --> 02:16:10,905
So he had to lose
his security clearance.

2541
02:16:10,938 --> 02:16:13,707
And with it, his credibility.

2542
02:16:13,741 --> 02:16:16,144
But how could they do it?

2543
02:16:16,178 --> 02:16:17,445
He was a war hero.

2544
02:16:17,479 --> 02:16:19,181
He'd already told everyone
about his past.

2545
02:16:19,214 --> 02:16:21,183
Borden dredged it all up.

2546
02:16:21,216 --> 02:16:24,452
How could Borden get access
to Oppenheimer's FBI file?

2547
02:16:24,486 --> 02:16:26,054
Could it have been Nichols?

2548
02:16:26,087 --> 02:16:28,390
No, I can't imagine
he'd do that.

2549
02:16:28,423 --> 02:16:30,458
But whoever did
unleashed a firestorm

2550
02:16:30,492 --> 02:16:32,494
that burned a path
from the White House

2551
02:16:32,527 --> 02:16:35,197
back to my desk at the AEC.

2552
02:16:35,230 --> 02:16:37,065
You see them in there, right?

2553
02:16:37,098 --> 02:16:40,968
I've been working
my whole life to get here.

2554
02:16:41,001 --> 02:16:43,038
Cabinet of
the United States of America.

2555
02:16:43,071 --> 02:16:45,005
Now, in front
of the entire country,

2556
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:47,108
they're gonna put me
back in my place.

2557
02:16:48,543 --> 02:16:51,213
A lowly shoe salesman.

2558
02:16:51,246 --> 02:16:53,081
Lewis, we can win this thing.

2559
02:16:53,114 --> 02:16:55,183
I-I think we can
get the Senate to grasp

2560
02:16:55,217 --> 02:16:58,019
that you did your duty,
painful though it was.

2561
02:16:58,053 --> 02:16:59,820
Now, will Hill's testimony
back us up?

2562
02:16:59,853 --> 02:17:01,822
- Hill will be fine.
- I don't really know him,

2563
02:17:01,855 --> 02:17:04,025
but, uh, he was one
of Szilard's boys in Chicago,

2564
02:17:04,059 --> 02:17:06,094
and they never forgave Robert
for not supporting

2565
02:17:06,127 --> 02:17:08,530
their petition
against bombing Japan.

2566
02:17:08,563 --> 02:17:13,767
This was taken 31 days
after the bombing.

2567
02:17:13,801 --> 02:17:16,538
Virtually everyone
in the street,

2568
02:17:16,571 --> 02:17:18,806
for nearly a mile around,

2569
02:17:18,839 --> 02:17:22,043
was instantly
and seriously burned.

2570
02:17:23,278 --> 02:17:27,815
The, uh, Japanese spoke of
people who wore striped clothing

2571
02:17:27,848 --> 02:17:30,818
upon whom the skin
was burned in stripes.

2572
02:17:31,885 --> 02:17:34,256
There were many
who thought themselves lucky,

2573
02:17:34,289 --> 02:17:36,991
who climbed out of the ruins
of their homes

2574
02:17:37,025 --> 02:17:38,892
only slightly injured.

2575
02:17:40,028 --> 02:17:41,795
But they died anyway.

2576
02:17:42,464 --> 02:17:45,567
They died days or weeks later

2577
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:48,936
from the radium-like rays
emitted in great numbers

2578
02:17:48,969 --> 02:17:50,871
at the moment of the explosion.

2579
02:17:52,073 --> 02:17:54,142
Did you read this crap
in the papers?

2580
02:17:54,175 --> 02:17:56,977
A British physicist is saying
the atomic bombings

2581
02:17:57,012 --> 02:17:59,180
were not the last act
of World War II

2582
02:17:59,214 --> 02:18:02,350
but the first act
of this cold war with Russia.

2583
02:18:02,384 --> 02:18:03,851
Which physicist?

2584
02:18:03,884 --> 02:18:05,287
I think you knew him.

2585
02:18:05,320 --> 02:18:06,920
Patrick Blackett.

2586
02:18:09,391 --> 02:18:10,958
He may not be wrong.

2587
02:18:10,991 --> 02:18:12,327
Stimson is now telling me

2588
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,597
we bombed an enemy
that was essentially defeated.

2589
02:18:15,630 --> 02:18:19,167
Robert,
you've all the influence now.

2590
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:20,901
Please.

2591
02:18:20,934 --> 02:18:23,038
Urge them to continue
my research on the Super.

2592
02:18:23,071 --> 02:18:24,439
I neither can nor will, Edward.

2593
02:18:24,472 --> 02:18:26,574
Why not?

2594
02:18:26,608 --> 02:18:28,310
It's not the right use
of our resources.

2595
02:18:28,343 --> 02:18:30,445
Is that what you really believe?

2596
02:18:30,478 --> 02:18:32,846
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

2597
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:35,283
Sphinx-like guru of the atom.

2598
02:18:36,584 --> 02:18:38,353
Nobody knows what you believe.

2599
02:18:39,454 --> 02:18:41,323
Do you? Hmm?

2600
02:18:41,356 --> 02:18:44,059
<i>One final time,
our program director,</i>

2601
02:18:44,092 --> 02:18:46,061
<i>Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.</i>

2602
02:18:47,262 --> 02:18:49,030
<i>I hope that in years to come</i>

2603
02:18:49,064 --> 02:18:53,068
you will look back
on your work here with pride.

2604
02:18:53,101 --> 02:18:55,470
But today, that pride
must be tempered

2605
02:18:55,503 --> 02:18:57,838
with a profound concern.

2606
02:18:59,107 --> 02:19:00,908
If atomic weapons
are to be added

2607
02:19:00,941 --> 02:19:03,345
to the arsenals
of a warring world,

2608
02:19:03,378 --> 02:19:06,947
then the day will come
when people will curse

2609
02:19:06,980 --> 02:19:08,383
the name of Los Alamos.

2610
02:19:12,387 --> 02:19:14,489
Uh, sorry, Admiral.

2611
02:19:14,522 --> 02:19:16,524
Stopped off to get this.

2612
02:19:16,558 --> 02:19:19,361
It seems pretty favorable.

2613
02:19:19,394 --> 02:19:20,495
There's Oppenheimer.

2614
02:19:20,528 --> 02:19:22,097
What's the caption?

2615
02:19:22,130 --> 02:19:24,965
Uh, "J. Robert Oppenheimer,
Strauss fought..."

2616
02:19:26,534 --> 02:19:28,103
"...and the US won."

2617
02:19:28,936 --> 02:19:30,205
That'll work.

2618
02:19:30,238 --> 02:19:32,474
Those were your words
from the other day.

2619
02:19:32,507 --> 02:19:33,907
We needed to pivot.

2620
02:19:33,941 --> 02:19:35,210
But how would you know

2621
02:19:35,243 --> 02:19:37,045
what <i>Time</i> magazine's
gonna write?

2622
02:19:37,078 --> 02:19:39,314
Henry Luce is a friend.

2623
02:19:45,453 --> 02:19:48,956
You sat here and let me
tell you how it's done,

2624
02:19:48,989 --> 02:19:51,659
but you've been
far ahead all along.

2625
02:19:51,693 --> 02:19:54,662
Survival in Washington

2626
02:19:54,696 --> 02:19:57,031
is about knowing
how to get things done.

2627
02:19:57,665 --> 02:19:59,067
Right.

2628
02:20:00,668 --> 02:20:02,404
What was it you said
about Borden?

2629
02:20:02,437 --> 02:20:05,440
"Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?"

2630
02:20:07,275 --> 02:20:10,278
I'm beginning to think Borden
was holding the knife for you.

2631
02:20:12,347 --> 02:20:14,582
It's gonna come down
to how much influence.

2632
02:20:14,616 --> 02:20:16,684
Borden's been able
to exert on Teller.

2633
02:20:16,718 --> 02:20:19,154
Did I say something funny?

2634
02:20:19,187 --> 02:20:20,555
Just "Borden, Borden, Borden"

2635
02:20:20,588 --> 02:20:24,359
when we all know
that it's Strauss.

2636
02:20:24,392 --> 02:20:26,361
Lewis brought me
to Princeton, Kitty.

2637
02:20:26,394 --> 02:20:29,097
And then you humiliated him
in front of Congress.

2638
02:20:29,130 --> 02:20:31,965
But more useful than a sandwich.

2639
02:20:35,136 --> 02:20:36,304
- How'd I do?
- I'll call recess,

2640
02:20:36,337 --> 02:20:37,439
ten minutes.

2641
02:20:37,472 --> 02:20:39,707
Maybe a little too well, Robert.

2642
02:20:39,741 --> 02:20:40,974
That was six years ago.

2643
02:20:41,009 --> 02:20:42,710
You know, the truly vindictive,

2644
02:20:42,744 --> 02:20:44,345
patient as saints.

2645
02:20:44,379 --> 02:20:47,182
Strauss has been perfectly
clear that he is neutral.

2646
02:20:47,215 --> 02:20:50,718
Wake up. It is Strauss.

2647
02:20:50,752 --> 02:20:53,688
It's always been Strauss,
and you know it.

2648
02:20:53,721 --> 02:20:55,356
Why won't you fight him?

2649
02:20:56,391 --> 02:20:57,592
Christ's sake.

2650
02:20:58,693 --> 02:21:01,362
It wasn't Nichols or Hoover

2651
02:21:01,396 --> 02:21:03,064
or one of Truman's guys.
It was you.

2652
02:21:03,097 --> 02:21:05,066
You gave the file to Borden.

2653
02:21:05,099 --> 02:21:06,734
You set him on Oppenheimer.

2654
02:21:06,768 --> 02:21:09,204
- You convinced him to...
- Borden...

2655
02:21:09,237 --> 02:21:11,139
didn't take any convincing.

2656
02:21:11,172 --> 02:21:13,274
Take your time,
use the entire file.

2657
02:21:13,308 --> 02:21:16,211
Write up your conclusion,
send them to the FBI.

2658
02:21:16,244 --> 02:21:18,480
The material
is obviously extensive,

2659
02:21:18,513 --> 02:21:21,182
but there's nothing new here.

2660
02:21:21,216 --> 02:21:22,750
Your conclusions will be.

2661
02:21:22,784 --> 02:21:25,086
And they'll have to be answered.

2662
02:21:25,119 --> 02:21:26,588
Hoover passes them to McCarthy?

2663
02:21:26,621 --> 02:21:30,225
Oppenheimer's too slippery
for that self-promoting clown.

2664
02:21:30,258 --> 02:21:33,127
I've talked it over with Hoover,
he'll hold McCarthy at bay

2665
02:21:33,161 --> 02:21:34,762
while you do this with the AEC.

2666
02:21:34,796 --> 02:21:36,631
- A trial.
- No.

2667
02:21:36,664 --> 02:21:40,435
No trial. You can't
give Oppenheimer a platform.

2668
02:21:40,468 --> 02:21:42,237
You can't martyr him.

2669
02:21:42,270 --> 02:21:45,440
We need a systematic destruction
of Oppenheimer's credibility

2670
02:21:45,473 --> 02:21:49,043
so he can never again speak
on matters of national security.

2671
02:21:49,077 --> 02:21:51,145
Then what?

2672
02:21:52,347 --> 02:21:55,717
A shabby little room,
far from the limelight.

2673
02:22:02,156 --> 02:22:03,424
<i>A simple bureaucratic procedure.</i>

2674
02:22:03,458 --> 02:22:06,094
His Q clearance
is up for renewal.

2675
02:22:06,127 --> 02:22:09,097
You send your accusations
to the FBI.

2676
02:22:10,732 --> 02:22:14,335
Hoover sends them to the AEC,
you're forced to act.

2677
02:22:15,169 --> 02:22:16,471
You write up an indictment

2678
02:22:16,504 --> 02:22:18,139
<i>and tell Oppenheimer</i>

2679
02:22:18,172 --> 02:22:20,842
<i>his security clearance
is not being renewed.</i>

2680
02:22:20,875 --> 02:22:22,410
<i>But offer him
the chance to appeal.</i>

2681
02:22:22,443 --> 02:22:24,779
As you can see, Robert,
it's not yet signed.

2682
02:22:24,812 --> 02:22:26,314
May I keep this?

2683
02:22:26,347 --> 02:22:27,282
No.

2684
02:22:27,315 --> 02:22:29,551
If you do decide to appeal,

2685
02:22:29,584 --> 02:22:31,119
they'll have to send you a copy.

2686
02:22:31,152 --> 02:22:34,389
When he appeals...
And trust me, he will...

2687
02:22:34,422 --> 02:22:36,824
I appoint a board.

2688
02:22:36,858 --> 02:22:39,327
They will, of course,
have counsel.

2689
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:41,296
- Prosecutor?
- In all but name.

2690
02:22:41,329 --> 02:22:43,498
- Who?
- Roger Robb.

2691
02:22:43,531 --> 02:22:44,699
Ouch.

2692
02:22:44,732 --> 02:22:46,200
Robb will have
security clearance

2693
02:22:46,234 --> 02:22:47,769
<i>to examine Oppenheimer's file.</i>

2694
02:22:47,802 --> 02:22:49,237
<i>As will the Gray board.</i>

2695
02:22:49,270 --> 02:22:50,638
Defense counsel will not.

2696
02:22:52,473 --> 02:22:53,875
A closed hearing.

2697
02:22:53,908 --> 02:22:55,143
<i>The so-called
derogatory information</i>

2698
02:22:55,176 --> 02:22:57,345
in your indictment of me.

2699
02:22:57,378 --> 02:22:59,847
No audience. No reporters.

2700
02:22:59,881 --> 02:23:03,351
- No burden of proof.
- No burden of proof?

2701
02:23:04,719 --> 02:23:06,220
We're not convicting.

2702
02:23:06,921 --> 02:23:09,524
We're just denying.

2703
02:23:14,495 --> 02:23:17,265
What is it you said?

2704
02:23:17,298 --> 02:23:20,635
"This is just how
the game is played."

2705
02:23:20,668 --> 02:23:23,638
Well, forgive my naivete.

2706
02:23:23,671 --> 02:23:25,640
Amateurs seek the sun.

2707
02:23:26,608 --> 02:23:27,675
Get eaten.

2708
02:23:28,743 --> 02:23:31,579
Power stays in the shadows.

2709
02:23:31,613 --> 02:23:35,316
But, sir, you're...
you're out of the shadows now.

2710
02:23:35,350 --> 02:23:36,784
Yeah, that's why
this has to work.

2711
02:23:36,818 --> 02:23:38,286
Well...

2712
02:23:39,587 --> 02:23:41,723
Teller's testifying
this morning.

2713
02:23:41,756 --> 02:23:44,158
That'll help. And then...

2714
02:23:44,192 --> 02:23:45,627
Hill is in the afternoon.

2715
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:48,129
Hill is gonna help us too.

2716
02:23:50,365 --> 02:23:53,534
As you can see,
Robert, it's not yet signed.

2717
02:23:53,568 --> 02:23:54,602
May I keep this?

2718
02:23:54,636 --> 02:23:55,670
No.

2719
02:23:57,772 --> 02:23:59,774
If you do decide to appeal,

2720
02:23:59,807 --> 02:24:02,644
then they'll have
to send you a copy.

2721
02:24:06,214 --> 02:24:08,516
Take my car and driver.
I insist.

2722
02:24:13,254 --> 02:24:15,189
I'll have to consult
my lawyers, Lewis.

2723
02:24:15,223 --> 02:24:17,925
Of course.
But don't take too long.

2724
02:24:17,959 --> 02:24:20,161
I can't keep Nichols at bay.

2725
02:24:26,300 --> 02:24:28,603
I'm sorry
it's come to this, Robert.

2726
02:24:28,636 --> 02:24:29,671
I think it's wrong.

2727
02:24:42,984 --> 02:24:44,419
<i>Nichols wants me to fight</i>

2728
02:24:44,452 --> 02:24:46,454
<i>so he can get it
all on the record.</i>

2729
02:24:46,487 --> 02:24:48,356
Strauss wants me to walk away.

2730
02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:51,225
Strauss knows
that you can't do that,

2731
02:24:51,259 --> 02:24:53,695
you'd be accepting the charges.

2732
02:24:53,728 --> 02:24:55,396
You'll lose your job.

2733
02:24:55,430 --> 02:24:57,699
You will lose your reputation.
We'll lose our house.

2734
02:24:57,732 --> 02:25:00,435
Robert, we have to fight.

2735
02:25:03,004 --> 02:25:05,306
As AEC Counsel,
I can't represent you.

2736
02:25:05,339 --> 02:25:06,874
I'll call Lloyd Garrison.

2737
02:25:06,908 --> 02:25:08,443
Oh, he's good.

2738
02:25:08,476 --> 02:25:12,213
The best,
but I have to warn you...

2739
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:15,316
...this won't be a fair fight.

2740
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:17,351
<i>During your interview</i>

2741
02:25:17,385 --> 02:25:19,854
with Boris Pash in 1943,
did you refer to microfilm?

2742
02:25:19,887 --> 02:25:21,389
- No.
- Tab 11,

2743
02:25:21,422 --> 02:25:22,857
page one, paragraph three.
You never said,

2744
02:25:22,890 --> 02:25:26,527
"Man at the consulate expert
in the use of microfilm"?

2745
02:25:26,561 --> 02:25:27,895
- I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- No.

2746
02:25:27,929 --> 02:25:28,863
I would like to know
what document

2747
02:25:28,896 --> 02:25:30,331
Mr. Robb is quoting from

2748
02:25:30,364 --> 02:25:31,632
and if we might be
furnished with a copy.

2749
02:25:31,666 --> 02:25:33,735
The document is classified,
Mr. Garrison.

2750
02:25:33,768 --> 02:25:35,603
I think we should get back
to first-hand information.

2751
02:25:35,636 --> 02:25:37,004
This is first-hand.

2752
02:25:37,039 --> 02:25:39,307
How so, Roger?

2753
02:25:40,675 --> 02:25:42,510
There was a recording
of the interview.

2754
02:25:46,481 --> 02:25:48,382
You let my client sit here

2755
02:25:48,416 --> 02:25:49,917
and potentially perjure himself,

2756
02:25:49,951 --> 02:25:52,487
and all this time,
you had a recording?

2757
02:25:52,520 --> 02:25:53,888
Nobody told your client

2758
02:25:53,921 --> 02:25:55,323
to misrepresent
his former answers.

2759
02:25:55,356 --> 02:25:57,425
Misrepre...
It-it was 12 years ago.

2760
02:25:57,458 --> 02:25:58,760
Can we hear this recording?

2761
02:25:58,793 --> 02:26:00,361
You don't have the clearance,
Mr. Garrison.

2762
02:26:00,394 --> 02:26:02,030
But you're reading it
into the record.

2763
02:26:02,064 --> 02:26:03,698
Please, please.

2764
02:26:03,731 --> 02:26:07,335
Is this proceeding interested
in entrapment or in truth?

2765
02:26:07,368 --> 02:26:09,804
If it's truth,
where's the disclosure?

2766
02:26:09,837 --> 02:26:11,472
Where's the witness list?

2767
02:26:11,506 --> 02:26:14,042
Mr. Garrison, this isn't
a trial, as you are well aware.

2768
02:26:14,076 --> 02:26:15,943
Evidentiary rules do not apply.

2769
02:26:15,977 --> 02:26:17,845
We are dealing
with national security.

2770
02:26:17,879 --> 02:26:19,380
Yes, sir, with all due respect,

2771
02:26:19,413 --> 02:26:21,783
I fail to see how
national security

2772
02:26:21,816 --> 02:26:23,518
prevents the prosecution
from providing us

2773
02:26:23,551 --> 02:26:25,553
- with a list of witnesses.
- Perhaps we are in need

2774
02:26:25,586 --> 02:26:26,888
- of a brief recess.
- Gentlemen,

2775
02:26:26,921 --> 02:26:28,656
you have my words.

2776
02:26:28,689 --> 02:26:30,825
If you say they're from a
transcript, then I'll accept it.

2777
02:26:30,858 --> 02:26:33,628
I've already explained
I made up a cock-and-bull story.

2778
02:26:33,661 --> 02:26:36,998
But why would anyone
make up such an elaborate story?

2779
02:26:37,032 --> 02:26:39,101
Because I was an idiot.

2780
02:26:39,134 --> 02:26:40,735
Why lie?

2781
02:26:40,768 --> 02:26:43,371
Well, clearly with
the intention of not revealing

2782
02:26:43,404 --> 02:26:45,473
who the intermediary was.

2783
02:26:45,506 --> 02:26:47,542
Your friend, Haakon Chevalier,
the Communist.

2784
02:26:47,575 --> 02:26:49,844
Is he still your friend?

2785
02:26:49,877 --> 02:26:51,312
Yes.

2786
02:26:53,414 --> 02:26:56,350
Dr. Rabi, thank you for coming.

2787
02:26:56,384 --> 02:26:58,086
Do you know who else
the prosecution has called?

2788
02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:00,454
Teller, obviously.

2789
02:27:01,422 --> 02:27:02,690
They've asked Lawrence.

2790
02:27:02,723 --> 02:27:03,558
What did he say?

2791
02:27:03,591 --> 02:27:06,494
He wasn't going
to help them, but...

2792
02:27:06,527 --> 02:27:07,461
But?

2793
02:27:07,495 --> 02:27:09,497
Strauss told him that
you and Ruth Tolman

2794
02:27:09,530 --> 02:27:11,966
<i>have been having
an affair for years.</i>

2795
02:27:11,999 --> 02:27:13,101
<i>The whole time you lived</i>

2796
02:27:13,135 --> 02:27:14,769
with them in Pasadena.

2797
02:27:14,802 --> 02:27:16,470
He convinced Lawrence

2798
02:27:16,504 --> 02:27:18,073
that Richard died
of a broken heart.

2799
02:27:18,106 --> 02:27:19,407
That's absurd.

2800
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:21,976
- What part?
- The broken heart.

2801
02:27:22,010 --> 02:27:24,046
Richard never found out.

2802
02:27:24,079 --> 02:27:25,847
Is Lawrence gonna testify?

2803
02:27:25,880 --> 02:27:27,381
I don't know.

2804
02:27:27,915 --> 02:27:29,550
Dr. Rabi,

2805
02:27:29,584 --> 02:27:32,653
what governmental positions
do you currently hold?

2806
02:27:32,687 --> 02:27:35,590
I am the chairman of the
General Advisory Committee

2807
02:27:35,623 --> 02:27:38,526
to the AEC,
succeeding Dr. Oppenheimer.

2808
02:27:38,559 --> 02:27:41,395
And how long have
you known Dr. Oppenheimer?

2809
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:43,031
Since 1928.

2810
02:27:43,065 --> 02:27:45,133
I... I know him quite well.

2811
02:27:45,167 --> 02:27:47,135
Well enough
to speak to the bearing

2812
02:27:47,169 --> 02:27:49,737
of his loyalty and character?

2813
02:27:49,770 --> 02:27:53,774
Dr. Oppenheimer is a man
of upstanding character.

2814
02:27:53,808 --> 02:27:56,477
And he is loyal
to the United States,

2815
02:27:56,510 --> 02:27:57,745
to his friends,

2816
02:27:57,778 --> 02:28:00,448
to the institutions
of which he is part.

2817
02:28:01,916 --> 02:28:02,950
Eat.

2818
02:28:21,936 --> 02:28:23,638
What was that?

2819
02:28:23,671 --> 02:28:25,706
Nothing to worry about.

2820
02:28:27,942 --> 02:28:29,677
<i>After the Russian A-bomb test,</i>

2821
02:28:29,710 --> 02:28:32,180
did Dr. Lawrence come to see you
about the hydrogen bomb?

2822
02:28:32,214 --> 02:28:34,016
You'd be better off asking him.

2823
02:28:34,049 --> 02:28:35,583
Well, I fully intend to.

2824
02:28:35,616 --> 02:28:38,186
Would you say
that Dr. Oppenheimer was

2825
02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:40,222
unalterably opposed
to the H-bomb?

2826
02:28:40,255 --> 02:28:43,058
No, he-he thought that
a fusion program

2827
02:28:43,091 --> 02:28:46,194
would come at the expense of our
awfully good fission program.

2828
02:28:46,228 --> 02:28:48,063
But that proved
not to be the case.

2829
02:28:48,096 --> 02:28:50,731
In the event both could be done.

2830
02:28:50,765 --> 02:28:53,068
Suppose that this board
did not feel satisfied

2831
02:28:53,101 --> 02:28:54,236
that in his testimony here,

2832
02:28:54,269 --> 02:28:56,537
Dr. Oppenheimer had been
wholly truthful.

2833
02:28:56,570 --> 02:28:59,774
What would you say whether
or not he should be cleared?

2834
02:28:59,807 --> 02:29:01,709
Why go through
all this against a man

2835
02:29:01,742 --> 02:29:03,945
who has accomplished
what Dr. Oppenheimer has?

2836
02:29:03,978 --> 02:29:05,613
Look at his record.

2837
02:29:05,646 --> 02:29:07,715
We have an A-bomb
and a whole series of it.

2838
02:29:07,748 --> 02:29:09,684
We have a whole series
of Super bombs.

2839
02:29:09,717 --> 02:29:11,686
What more do you want?

2840
02:29:11,719 --> 02:29:12,586
Mermaids?

2841
02:29:12,620 --> 02:29:14,922
But I've known Secretary Strauss

2842
02:29:14,956 --> 02:29:16,557
for many years,

2843
02:29:16,590 --> 02:29:19,860
and I feel it a necessity
to express the warm support

2844
02:29:19,894 --> 02:29:22,563
for science and scientists
Lewis has shown.

2845
02:29:22,596 --> 02:29:23,831
We'll break now,

2846
02:29:23,864 --> 02:29:25,666
unless there's
any immediate business.

2847
02:29:25,700 --> 02:29:28,236
Senator, I'd like
to once again request

2848
02:29:28,270 --> 02:29:30,938
that we're furnished
with a list of witnesses.

2849
02:29:30,972 --> 02:29:33,741
And I will remind the nominee
that we don't always

2850
02:29:33,774 --> 02:29:35,776
have that information
in advance.

2851
02:29:35,810 --> 02:29:39,247
We do know that Dr. Hill
will be here after lunch.

2852
02:29:39,281 --> 02:29:40,915
Mr. Chairman,
our next scheduled witness,

2853
02:29:40,948 --> 02:29:45,486
Dr. Lawrence, has apparently
come down with colitis.

2854
02:29:46,954 --> 02:29:49,857
So we'll proceed with
William Borden instead.

2855
02:29:51,126 --> 02:29:52,526
Mr. Borden, welcome.

2856
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:54,029
Please take a seat.

2857
02:29:55,197 --> 02:29:57,598
Mr. Borden,

2858
02:29:57,631 --> 02:30:00,202
during your investigation
into Dr. Oppenheimer,

2859
02:30:00,235 --> 02:30:01,869
did you reach
certain conclusions?

2860
02:30:01,902 --> 02:30:04,206
- I did.
- And did there come a time

2861
02:30:04,239 --> 02:30:05,706
when you expressed
those conclusions

2862
02:30:05,740 --> 02:30:07,742
in a letter
to Mr. J. Edgar Hoover

2863
02:30:07,775 --> 02:30:09,710
of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation?

2864
02:30:09,744 --> 02:30:11,146
- That is correct.
- Prior to the writing

2865
02:30:11,179 --> 02:30:12,947
of the letter, did you discuss
the writing of the letter

2866
02:30:12,980 --> 02:30:15,283
with anybody attached to
the Atomic Energy Commission?

2867
02:30:15,317 --> 02:30:16,917
I did not.

2868
02:30:16,951 --> 02:30:18,286
Thanks, and do you have
a copy of the letter?

2869
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:19,920
I have one in front of me.

2870
02:30:19,954 --> 02:30:22,057
Would you please be so kind
as to read it, sir?

2871
02:30:22,090 --> 02:30:23,624
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

2872
02:30:23,657 --> 02:30:25,093
the purpose of this letter
is to state..."

2873
02:30:25,127 --> 02:30:27,162
Uh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, if I could have a...

2874
02:30:27,195 --> 02:30:29,563
What is the purpose
of the delay?

2875
02:30:29,597 --> 02:30:31,066
He's simply gonna
read the letter.

2876
02:30:31,099 --> 02:30:32,633
Mr. Chairman,

2877
02:30:32,666 --> 02:30:34,668
this is the first
I've seen of this letter,

2878
02:30:34,702 --> 02:30:35,970
and I see statements here, uh,

2879
02:30:36,003 --> 02:30:37,972
at least one,
of a kind that I don't think

2880
02:30:38,005 --> 02:30:39,974
anyone would like to see
go into the record.

2881
02:30:40,007 --> 02:30:42,777
These are accusations that have
not previously been made.

2882
02:30:42,810 --> 02:30:44,745
That are not part of
the indictment from Nichols.

2883
02:30:44,779 --> 02:30:46,914
Accusations of a kind that
I don't think belong here.

2884
02:30:46,947 --> 02:30:49,117
The witness wrote this letter
on his own initiative,

2885
02:30:49,151 --> 02:30:51,719
laying out evidence that has
already been before the board.

2886
02:30:51,752 --> 02:30:53,355
His conclusions
are valid testimony,

2887
02:30:53,388 --> 02:30:55,290
just like the...
the positive conclusions

2888
02:30:55,323 --> 02:30:56,657
of friends of Dr. Oppenheimer.

2889
02:30:56,690 --> 02:30:58,193
It cuts both ways.

2890
02:30:58,226 --> 02:31:00,661
How long has Counsel been
in possession of this letter?

2891
02:31:00,694 --> 02:31:02,064
I don't think
I should be subject

2892
02:31:02,097 --> 02:31:04,665
to cross-examination by you,
Mr. Garrison.

2893
02:31:04,698 --> 02:31:06,334
Mr. Garrison,
given that we on the board

2894
02:31:06,368 --> 02:31:07,868
have all read the letter,

2895
02:31:07,902 --> 02:31:10,238
wouldn't it be better
to have it in the record?

2896
02:31:10,272 --> 02:31:11,739
Let's proceed.

2897
02:31:13,741 --> 02:31:15,210
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

2898
02:31:15,243 --> 02:31:18,679
"the purpose of this letter
is to state my opinion

2899
02:31:18,712 --> 02:31:20,015
"based upon years of study

2900
02:31:20,048 --> 02:31:22,817
"of the available
classified evidence,

2901
02:31:22,850 --> 02:31:24,885
"that more probably than not,

2902
02:31:24,919 --> 02:31:29,790
"J. Robert Oppenheimer is
an agent of the Soviet Union.

2903
02:31:29,824 --> 02:31:32,160
"The following conclusions
are justified.

2904
02:31:32,194 --> 02:31:37,032
"One, between 1929 and 1942,
more probably than not,

2905
02:31:37,065 --> 02:31:38,366
"J. Robert Oppenheimer

2906
02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:40,701
"was a sufficiently
hardened Communist,

2907
02:31:40,734 --> 02:31:42,837
"that he volunteered
information to the Soviets.

2908
02:31:42,870 --> 02:31:45,207
"Two, more probably than not,

2909
02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:49,810
"he has since been functioning
as an espionage agent.

2910
02:31:49,844 --> 02:31:52,680
"Three, more probably than not,

2911
02:31:52,713 --> 02:31:54,949
"he has since acted
under a Soviet directive

2912
02:31:54,982 --> 02:31:57,718
in influencing United States
military policy..."

2913
02:31:57,751 --> 02:31:58,986
I'm sorry, Robert.

2914
02:31:59,020 --> 02:32:00,355
"...atomic energy, intelligence

2915
02:32:00,388 --> 02:32:01,755
- "and diplomatic policy."
- Is anyone

2916
02:32:01,789 --> 02:32:03,425
ever going to tell the truth

2917
02:32:03,458 --> 02:32:05,227
about what's happening here?

2918
02:32:05,260 --> 02:32:08,796
<i>We will now
hear from Dr. David Hill.</i>

2919
02:32:18,039 --> 02:32:19,374
Dr. Hill,

2920
02:32:19,407 --> 02:32:22,043
would you care
to make a statement?

2921
02:32:23,178 --> 02:32:24,745
Thank you.

2922
02:32:24,778 --> 02:32:28,450
I've been asked to testify
about Lewis Strauss.

2923
02:32:28,483 --> 02:32:30,885
A man who has
given years of service

2924
02:32:30,918 --> 02:32:33,888
in high positions of government

2925
02:32:33,921 --> 02:32:38,859
and who is known to be earnest,
hardworking and intelligent.

2926
02:32:39,860 --> 02:32:41,363
The views I have to express
are my own,

2927
02:32:41,396 --> 02:32:45,100
but I believe that much I have
to say will help to indicate

2928
02:32:45,133 --> 02:32:48,836
why most of the scientists
in this country

2929
02:32:48,869 --> 02:32:51,872
would prefer to see Mr. Strauss

2930
02:32:51,906 --> 02:32:53,741
completely out of government.

2931
02:32:55,776 --> 02:32:58,280
You're... You're referring
to the hostility

2932
02:32:58,313 --> 02:32:59,780
of certain scientists

2933
02:32:59,813 --> 02:33:01,449
directed toward Mr. Strauss

2934
02:33:01,483 --> 02:33:03,717
because of his commitment
to security

2935
02:33:03,751 --> 02:33:06,754
as demonstrated
in the Oppenheimer affair?

2936
02:33:09,224 --> 02:33:10,492
No.

2937
02:33:10,525 --> 02:33:12,927
Because of the personal
vindictiveness

2938
02:33:12,960 --> 02:33:15,197
he demonstrated against
Dr. Oppenheimer.

2939
02:33:16,864 --> 02:33:18,999
Order.

2940
02:33:19,034 --> 02:33:20,068
Order!

2941
02:33:20,101 --> 02:33:25,373
It appears to most
scientists around this country

2942
02:33:25,407 --> 02:33:26,941
that Robert Oppenheimer
is now being

2943
02:33:26,974 --> 02:33:29,211
pilloried and put through
an ordeal

2944
02:33:29,244 --> 02:33:32,347
because he expressed
his honest opinions.

2945
02:33:33,348 --> 02:33:35,417
Dr. Bush, I thought
I was performing a service

2946
02:33:35,450 --> 02:33:37,185
to my country
when hearing this case.

2947
02:33:37,219 --> 02:33:41,356
No board in this country
should sit in judgment of a man

2948
02:33:41,389 --> 02:33:44,025
because he expressed
strong opinions.

2949
02:33:44,059 --> 02:33:47,128
If you want to try that case,
you should try me.

2950
02:33:47,162 --> 02:33:51,166
Excuse me, gentlemen,
if I become stirred,

2951
02:33:51,199 --> 02:33:52,400
but I am.

2952
02:33:52,434 --> 02:33:54,402
Dr. Hill, we've already heard

2953
02:33:54,436 --> 02:33:56,870
that Mr. Strauss
did not bring the charges

2954
02:33:56,904 --> 02:33:59,974
or participate in the hearings
against Dr. Oppenheimer.

2955
02:34:00,007 --> 02:34:02,510
The Oppenheimer matter was

2956
02:34:02,544 --> 02:34:04,912
initiated and carried through

2957
02:34:04,945 --> 02:34:07,315
largely through the animus
of Lewis Strauss.

2958
02:34:08,916 --> 02:34:11,553
Oppenheimer made mincemeat
out of Strauss's position

2959
02:34:11,586 --> 02:34:13,188
on the shipment
of isotopes to Norway,

2960
02:34:13,221 --> 02:34:17,225
and Strauss never forgave him
this public humiliation.

2961
02:34:17,259 --> 02:34:19,860
Another controversy between them
centered around

2962
02:34:19,893 --> 02:34:22,863
their differences in judgment
on how the H-bomb

2963
02:34:22,896 --> 02:34:24,965
<i>would contribute
to national security.</i>

2964
02:34:24,999 --> 02:34:26,967
Strauss turned to
the personnel security system

2965
02:34:27,001 --> 02:34:31,239
in order to destroy
Oppenheimer's effectiveness,

2966
02:34:31,273 --> 02:34:33,807
and Strauss was able to find
a few ambitious men

2967
02:34:33,841 --> 02:34:36,877
who also disagreed
with Oppenheimer's positions

2968
02:34:36,910 --> 02:34:39,947
and envied him his prestige
in government circles.

2969
02:34:39,980 --> 02:34:42,584
I've always assumed,
and still assume,

2970
02:34:42,617 --> 02:34:44,852
that he's loyal
to the United States.

2971
02:34:44,885 --> 02:34:46,288
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

2972
02:34:46,321 --> 02:34:48,889
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

2973
02:34:48,922 --> 02:34:50,891
Do you or do you not believe

2974
02:34:50,924 --> 02:34:53,228
that Dr. Oppenheimer
is a security risk?

2975
02:34:56,964 --> 02:34:58,233
In a great number of cases,

2976
02:34:58,266 --> 02:35:00,235
I have seen Dr. Oppenheimer
act in a way

2977
02:35:00,268 --> 02:35:04,139
which was to me
exceedingly hard to understand.

2978
02:35:04,172 --> 02:35:06,174
I thoroughly disagreed
with him in numerous issues,

2979
02:35:06,207 --> 02:35:08,310
and his actions frankly
appeared to me

2980
02:35:08,343 --> 02:35:09,877
confused and complicated.

2981
02:35:09,910 --> 02:35:11,446
To this extent, I feel,

2982
02:35:11,479 --> 02:35:14,582
I want to see the vital
interest of this country

2983
02:35:14,616 --> 02:35:16,451
in hands which
I understand better

2984
02:35:16,484 --> 02:35:18,620
and therefore trust more.

2985
02:35:18,653 --> 02:35:21,423
- Thank you, Doctor.
- Thank you.

2986
02:35:25,226 --> 02:35:26,328
I'm sorry.

2987
02:35:28,962 --> 02:35:31,132
<i>You shook his fucking hand?</i>

2988
02:35:31,166 --> 02:35:34,069
Oh, I would have
spit in his face.

2989
02:35:34,102 --> 02:35:35,637
Not sure the board
would have appreciated that.

2990
02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:37,238
Is it not
gentlemanly enough for you?

2991
02:35:37,272 --> 02:35:40,608
Well, I-I think you're all being
too goddamn gentlemanly.

2992
02:35:40,642 --> 02:35:42,610
Gray must see
what Robb is doing.

2993
02:35:42,644 --> 02:35:44,579
Why doesn't he just
shut him down?

2994
02:35:44,612 --> 02:35:47,215
And you shaking Teller's hand.

2995
02:35:47,248 --> 02:35:50,118
You need to stop
playing the martyr.

2996
02:35:51,119 --> 02:35:53,521
Under the current
AEC guidelines,

2997
02:35:53,555 --> 02:35:55,956
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

2998
02:36:02,130 --> 02:36:04,499
Under my interpretation

2999
02:36:04,532 --> 02:36:06,668
of the Atomic Energy Act,

3000
02:36:06,701 --> 02:36:08,536
which did not exist

3001
02:36:08,570 --> 02:36:11,406
when I hired
Dr. Oppenheimer in 1942...

3002
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:16,044
I would not clear him today,

3003
02:36:16,077 --> 02:36:18,046
uh, if I were on the commission.

3004
02:36:18,079 --> 02:36:19,647
Good. Thank you, General.
That is all.

3005
02:36:19,681 --> 02:36:21,683
But I don't think I'd clear
any of those guys.

3006
02:36:21,716 --> 02:36:23,884
That's all.

3007
02:36:26,388 --> 02:36:28,523
Dr. Oppenheimer
had no responsibility

3008
02:36:28,556 --> 02:36:30,058
in the selection
or the clearance

3009
02:36:30,091 --> 02:36:31,393
of Klaus Fuchs, did he?

3010
02:36:31,426 --> 02:36:32,694
No. None at all.

3011
02:36:32,727 --> 02:36:34,329
And you wouldn't want
to leave this board

3012
02:36:34,362 --> 02:36:37,132
with any suggestion today
that you're here questioning

3013
02:36:37,165 --> 02:36:39,200
his basic loyalty
to the United States

3014
02:36:39,234 --> 02:36:40,635
in the operation of Los Alamos?

3015
02:36:40,668 --> 02:36:42,237
By no means.

3016
02:36:42,270 --> 02:36:44,272
I hope I didn't lead anyone
to believe otherwise

3017
02:36:44,305 --> 02:36:45,939
for an instant.

3018
02:36:45,973 --> 02:36:47,075
Thank you, General.

3019
02:37:05,126 --> 02:37:07,395
Okay. We shouldn't
keep them waiting.

3020
02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:08,696
She'll be here.

3021
02:37:08,730 --> 02:37:10,165
Do you even want her here?

3022
02:37:10,198 --> 02:37:12,700
Only a fool or an adolescent

3023
02:37:12,734 --> 02:37:14,636
presumes to know
someone else's relationship,

3024
02:37:14,669 --> 02:37:16,970
and you're neither, Lloyd.

3025
02:37:18,540 --> 02:37:20,508
Kitty and I,

3026
02:37:20,542 --> 02:37:22,610
we're grown-ups.

3027
02:37:22,644 --> 02:37:25,480
<i>We've walked
through fire together.</i>

3028
02:37:25,513 --> 02:37:28,082
She'll do fine.

3029
02:37:28,116 --> 02:37:30,185
Would you describe
your views on Communism

3030
02:37:30,218 --> 02:37:32,253
as pro, anti, neutral?

3031
02:37:32,287 --> 02:37:34,155
Very strongly against.

3032
02:37:34,189 --> 02:37:36,324
I-I've had nothing to do
with Communism in... since...

3033
02:37:36,357 --> 02:37:39,194
since 1936, since...

3034
02:37:39,227 --> 02:37:42,096
since before I met Robert.

3035
02:37:42,697 --> 02:37:44,532
That's all.

3036
02:37:44,566 --> 02:37:46,134
<i>The record demonstrates</i>

3037
02:37:46,167 --> 02:37:47,769
<i>that Oppenheimer
was not interrogated</i>

3038
02:37:47,802 --> 02:37:51,039
<i>by impartial and disinterested
counsel for the Gray board.</i>

3039
02:37:51,072 --> 02:37:52,474
<i>He was interrogated
by a prosecutor</i>

3040
02:37:52,507 --> 02:37:54,175
<i>who used all the tricks</i>

3041
02:37:54,209 --> 02:37:56,010
<i>of a rather ingenious
legal background.</i>

3042
02:37:56,044 --> 02:37:57,479
You are charging now

3043
02:37:57,512 --> 02:38:00,482
that the Gray board
permitted a prosecution.

3044
02:38:00,515 --> 02:38:03,218
If I were on the Gray board,

3045
02:38:03,251 --> 02:38:05,220
I would have protested
against the tactics

3046
02:38:05,253 --> 02:38:08,156
of the man who served, in fact,
as the prosecuting counsel.

3047
02:38:08,189 --> 02:38:11,392
A man appointed not by the board

3048
02:38:11,426 --> 02:38:13,495
but by Lewis Strauss.

3049
02:38:15,497 --> 02:38:16,531
Who was this?

3050
02:38:17,832 --> 02:38:19,667
I'm sorry?

3051
02:38:19,701 --> 02:38:20,768
Who was this?

3052
02:38:20,802 --> 02:38:22,237
Uh, Roger Robb.

3053
02:38:22,270 --> 02:38:24,606
Mrs. Oppenheimer.

3054
02:38:28,810 --> 02:38:31,246
Did you have a Communist Party
membership card?

3055
02:38:32,680 --> 02:38:34,782
I'm... I'm not sure.

3056
02:38:34,816 --> 02:38:36,317
Not sure?

3057
02:38:39,287 --> 02:38:40,288
Well...

3058
02:38:42,690 --> 02:38:44,425
Well?

3059
02:38:53,368 --> 02:38:56,337
I mean, presumably,
the act of joining the Party

3060
02:38:56,371 --> 02:39:00,141
required sending some money
and receiving a card, no?

3061
02:39:03,311 --> 02:39:04,445
Yeah.

3062
02:39:09,817 --> 02:39:11,219
Sorry.

3063
02:39:11,853 --> 02:39:13,454
Yes. Mm.

3064
02:39:15,290 --> 02:39:17,292
It's just it was all
so very long ago,

3065
02:39:17,325 --> 02:39:19,160
- Mr. Robb, wasn't it?
- Not really.

3066
02:39:19,193 --> 02:39:20,428
Long enough to have forgotten.

3067
02:39:20,461 --> 02:39:21,829
Did you return the card
or rip it up?

3068
02:39:21,863 --> 02:39:23,464
The card whose existence
I've forgotten?

3069
02:39:23,498 --> 02:39:25,300
Your Communist Party
membership card.

3070
02:39:25,333 --> 02:39:27,068
Haven't the slightest idea.

3071
02:39:29,370 --> 02:39:32,140
Can a distinction
be made between

3072
02:39:32,173 --> 02:39:33,841
Soviet Communism and Communism?

3073
02:39:33,875 --> 02:39:35,443
Well, in the days
when I was a member,

3074
02:39:35,476 --> 02:39:37,111
I thought they were
definitely two things.

3075
02:39:37,145 --> 02:39:38,413
- Oh?
- I thought that

3076
02:39:38,446 --> 02:39:40,315
the Communist Party
of the United States

3077
02:39:40,348 --> 02:39:42,750
was concerned with
our domestic problems.

3078
02:39:42,784 --> 02:39:44,252
I now no longer believe this.

3079
02:39:44,285 --> 02:39:45,320
Believe the whole thing's
linked together

3080
02:39:45,353 --> 02:39:46,621
and spread all over the world,

3081
02:39:46,654 --> 02:39:48,856
and I have believed this
since I left the Party

3082
02:39:48,890 --> 02:39:50,358
16 years ago.

3083
02:39:50,391 --> 02:39:51,693
- But...
- Seventeen years ago.

3084
02:39:51,726 --> 02:39:53,127
My mistake.

3085
02:39:53,161 --> 02:39:55,797
- But you said...
- Sorry, 18.

3086
02:39:55,830 --> 02:39:58,099
Eighteen years ago.

3087
02:39:58,900 --> 02:40:00,201
Are you familiar with the fact

3088
02:40:00,234 --> 02:40:01,402
your husband was
making contributions

3089
02:40:01,436 --> 02:40:04,505
to the Spanish Civil War
as late as 1942?

3090
02:40:04,539 --> 02:40:06,407
I knew that Robert gave money
from time to time.

3091
02:40:06,441 --> 02:40:07,675
Did you know
this money was going

3092
02:40:07,709 --> 02:40:09,143
into Communist Party channels?

3093
02:40:09,177 --> 02:40:10,612
Don't you mean "through"?

3094
02:40:10,645 --> 02:40:12,413
- Pardon?
- I think you mean

3095
02:40:12,447 --> 02:40:14,248
"through Communist Party
channels," don't you?

3096
02:40:14,282 --> 02:40:15,516
- Y-Yes!
- Yes?

3097
02:40:15,550 --> 02:40:17,452
- Yes!
- Yes.

3098
02:40:17,485 --> 02:40:21,189
Then would it be fair to say
that this meant that by 1942,

3099
02:40:21,222 --> 02:40:22,523
your husband had not stopped

3100
02:40:22,557 --> 02:40:24,492
having anything to do
with the Communist Party?

3101
02:40:24,525 --> 02:40:26,327
You don't have
to answer that yes or no.

3102
02:40:26,361 --> 02:40:27,729
You can answer that
any way you wish.

3103
02:40:27,762 --> 02:40:29,631
I know that, thank you.

3104
02:40:29,664 --> 02:40:31,366
It's your question.

3105
02:40:31,399 --> 02:40:33,301
- It's not properly phrased.
- Do you understand

3106
02:40:33,334 --> 02:40:34,569
- what I'm getting at?
- I do.

3107
02:40:34,602 --> 02:40:35,870
Then why don't you
answer it that way?

3108
02:40:35,903 --> 02:40:37,505
'Cause I don't like your phrase.

3109
02:40:37,538 --> 02:40:39,474
"Having anything to do
with the Communist Party."

3110
02:40:39,507 --> 02:40:41,309
Because Robert never
had anything to do

3111
02:40:41,342 --> 02:40:42,644
with the Communist Party
as such.

3112
02:40:42,677 --> 02:40:45,313
I know he gave money
to Spanish refugees.

3113
02:40:45,346 --> 02:40:47,281
I know he took
an intellectual interest

3114
02:40:47,315 --> 02:40:48,516
in Communist ideas...

3115
02:40:48,549 --> 02:40:49,651
Are there two types
of Communists?

3116
02:40:49,684 --> 02:40:51,386
Intellectual Communists

3117
02:40:51,419 --> 02:40:53,354
and your plain old
regular Commie?

3118
02:40:54,355 --> 02:40:55,923
Well, I couldn't
answer that one.

3119
02:40:55,957 --> 02:40:58,726
I couldn't either.

3120
02:41:04,866 --> 02:41:06,668
Evening.

3121
02:41:06,701 --> 02:41:08,436
Robert,
you can't win this thing.

3122
02:41:08,469 --> 02:41:10,405
It's a kangaroo court
with a predetermined outcome.

3123
02:41:10,438 --> 02:41:12,373
Why put yourself
through more of it?

3124
02:41:12,974 --> 02:41:15,410
I have my reasons.

3125
02:41:16,011 --> 02:41:17,445
All right.

3126
02:41:17,478 --> 02:41:18,613
Good night.

3127
02:41:23,317 --> 02:41:24,719
He has a point.

3128
02:41:25,653 --> 02:41:27,689
I'm not sure
you understand, Albert.

3129
02:41:27,722 --> 02:41:28,823
No?

3130
02:41:28,856 --> 02:41:32,360
I left my country
never to return.

3131
02:41:32,994 --> 02:41:34,962
You served your country well.

3132
02:41:34,996 --> 02:41:38,633
If this is the reward
she offers you, then...

3133
02:41:38,666 --> 02:41:42,303
perhaps you should
turn your back on her.

3134
02:41:42,336 --> 02:41:44,972
Damn it, I happen
to love this country.

3135
02:41:45,006 --> 02:41:47,608
Then tell them to go to hell.

3136
02:41:47,642 --> 02:41:48,543
Interestingly enough,

3137
02:41:48,576 --> 02:41:51,646
this is no longer
a confirmation hearing,

3138
02:41:51,679 --> 02:41:53,848
it's now a trial...

3139
02:41:53,881 --> 02:41:55,616
about a trial!

3140
02:41:56,617 --> 02:41:57,919
It's not good
he's telling everyone

3141
02:41:57,952 --> 02:41:59,253
you initiated the hearings.

3142
02:41:59,287 --> 02:42:01,656
He can't prove a goddamn thing.

3143
02:42:01,689 --> 02:42:04,358
He certainly can't prove
that I gave the file to Borden.

3144
02:42:04,392 --> 02:42:06,728
We're not in court, sir.

3145
02:42:06,761 --> 02:42:07,962
There's no burden of proof.

3146
02:42:07,995 --> 02:42:10,364
Right. They're not convicting...

3147
02:42:10,398 --> 02:42:11,666
just denying.

3148
02:42:11,699 --> 02:42:14,602
Why would Hill come here
to tear me down?

3149
02:42:14,635 --> 02:42:16,270
What's his angle?

3150
02:42:16,304 --> 02:42:18,406
Do people need a reason
to do the right thing?

3151
02:42:18,439 --> 02:42:20,042
- As he sees it.
- I told you,

3152
02:42:20,075 --> 02:42:22,744
Oppenheimer poisoned
the scientists against me,

3153
02:42:22,777 --> 02:42:24,479
right from that first meeting.

3154
02:42:24,512 --> 02:42:27,749
<i>I don't know what Oppenheimer
said to him that day,</i>

3155
02:42:27,782 --> 02:42:30,518
but Einstein wouldn't
even meet my eye.

3156
02:42:31,619 --> 02:42:34,722
<i>Oppenheimer knows
how to manipulate his own.</i>

3157
02:42:34,756 --> 02:42:36,024
And at Los Alamos,

3158
02:42:36,058 --> 02:42:38,392
he preyed
on the naivete of scientists

3159
02:42:38,426 --> 02:42:40,728
who thought they'd get a say
in how we used their work,

3160
02:42:40,762 --> 02:42:43,765
but don't ever think
he was that naive himself.

3161
02:42:43,798 --> 02:42:45,067
Doctor.

3162
02:42:45,100 --> 02:42:47,069
During your work
on the hydrogen bomb,

3163
02:42:47,102 --> 02:42:50,772
were you deterred
by any moral qualms?

3164
02:42:50,805 --> 02:42:52,440
Yes, of course.

3165
02:42:52,473 --> 02:42:53,775
But you still got on
with your work, didn't you?

3166
02:42:53,808 --> 02:42:56,044
Yes, because this was
work of exploration,

3167
02:42:56,078 --> 02:42:58,312
it was not the preparation
of a weapon.

3168
02:42:58,346 --> 02:43:00,414
You mean it was more of a...
an academic excursion.

3169
02:43:00,448 --> 02:43:02,350
No, it is not an academic thing

3170
02:43:02,383 --> 02:43:03,785
whether you can build
a hydrogen bomb.

3171
02:43:03,818 --> 02:43:05,419
It's a matter of life and death.

3172
02:43:05,453 --> 02:43:06,821
By 1942, you were
actively pushing

3173
02:43:06,854 --> 02:43:08,422
the development of
the hydrogen bomb, weren't you?

3174
02:43:08,456 --> 02:43:09,690
Pushing's not the right word.

3175
02:43:09,724 --> 02:43:11,659
Supporting it
and working on it, yes.

3176
02:43:11,692 --> 02:43:14,029
So when did these moral qualms
become so strong

3177
02:43:14,062 --> 02:43:15,696
that you actively opposed

3178
02:43:15,730 --> 02:43:17,398
the development
of the hydrogen bomb?

3179
02:43:17,431 --> 02:43:19,400
When it was suggested
that it be the policy

3180
02:43:19,433 --> 02:43:21,602
of the United States to make
these things at all cost

3181
02:43:21,636 --> 02:43:23,638
without regard to the balance
between these weapons

3182
02:43:23,671 --> 02:43:26,741
and atomic weapons
as part of our arsenal.

3183
02:43:28,110 --> 02:43:30,045
What do moral qualms
have to do with that?

3184
02:43:30,078 --> 02:43:32,114
Wha... What do moral qualms

3185
02:43:32,147 --> 02:43:33,681
- have to do with it?
- Yes.

3186
02:43:33,714 --> 02:43:35,783
Oppenheimer wanted
to own the atomic bomb.

3187
02:43:35,817 --> 02:43:37,718
He wanted to be the man
who moved the Earth.

3188
02:43:37,752 --> 02:43:40,922
He talks about
putting the nuclear genie

3189
02:43:40,955 --> 02:43:42,423
back in the bottle.

3190
02:43:42,456 --> 02:43:43,591
Well, I'm here to tell you

3191
02:43:43,624 --> 02:43:45,827
that I know
J. Robert Oppenheimer,

3192
02:43:45,860 --> 02:43:49,964
and if he could do it all over,
he'd do it all the same.

3193
02:43:49,997 --> 02:43:53,035
You know he's never once said
that he regrets Hiroshima?

3194
02:43:53,068 --> 02:43:55,937
He'd do it all over. Why?

3195
02:43:55,970 --> 02:43:57,405
Because it made him

3196
02:43:57,438 --> 02:43:59,074
the most important man
who ever lived.

3197
02:43:59,107 --> 02:44:01,442
Well, we've...

3198
02:44:01,475 --> 02:44:03,578
we've freely used
the atomic bomb...

3199
02:44:03,611 --> 02:44:05,713
In fact, Doctor,
you assisted in selecting

3200
02:44:05,746 --> 02:44:07,149
the target to drop
the atomic bomb on Japan,

3201
02:44:07,182 --> 02:44:08,850
- didn't you?
- Yes.

3202
02:44:08,883 --> 02:44:10,518
Well, then you knew,
did you not, that by dropping

3203
02:44:10,551 --> 02:44:12,720
that atomic bomb
on the target you selected,

3204
02:44:12,753 --> 02:44:14,156
that thousands of civilians
would be killed

3205
02:44:14,189 --> 02:44:15,923
or injured, is that correct?

3206
02:44:15,957 --> 02:44:17,859
Yes, not as many
as turned out...

3207
02:44:17,892 --> 02:44:20,095
Oh. Well, how many
were killed or injured?

3208
02:44:20,128 --> 02:44:21,996
- 70,000.
- 70,000

3209
02:44:22,030 --> 02:44:23,098
at both Hiroshima and...

3210
02:44:23,131 --> 02:44:24,565
110,000 at both.

3211
02:44:24,599 --> 02:44:26,000
On the day of each bombing?

3212
02:44:27,969 --> 02:44:29,137
Yes.

3213
02:44:29,171 --> 02:44:30,738
And in the weeks
and years that followed?

3214
02:44:30,771 --> 02:44:33,474
It has been put at somewhere
between 50 and 100,000.

3215
02:44:33,507 --> 02:44:35,610
- 220,000 dead at least?
- Yes.

3216
02:44:35,643 --> 02:44:37,545
Any moral scruples about that?

3217
02:44:38,913 --> 02:44:40,015
Terrible ones.

3218
02:44:40,048 --> 02:44:41,616
But yet you testified in here

3219
02:44:41,649 --> 02:44:44,019
that the bombing of Hiroshima
was very successful.

3220
02:44:44,052 --> 02:44:45,620
- Technically successful.
- Oh!

3221
02:44:45,653 --> 02:44:47,421
Technically, it was
very successful.

3222
02:44:47,455 --> 02:44:48,923
And it is also alleged
to have helped end the war.

3223
02:44:48,956 --> 02:44:50,925
Would you have been
in support of the dropping

3224
02:44:50,958 --> 02:44:52,894
of a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima?

3225
02:44:52,927 --> 02:44:54,462
That would make no sense at all.

3226
02:44:54,495 --> 02:44:56,931
- Why?
- The-the target is too small.

3227
02:44:56,964 --> 02:44:59,467
Well, supposing there had been
a target in Japan

3228
02:44:59,500 --> 02:45:00,968
big enough for
a thermonuclear weapon,

3229
02:45:01,002 --> 02:45:02,770
would you have been opposed
to the dropping of it?

3230
02:45:02,803 --> 02:45:04,639
This was not a problem
with which I was confronted...

3231
02:45:04,672 --> 02:45:06,108
Well, I'm confronting you
with it now, sir.

3232
02:45:06,141 --> 02:45:07,909
It was all part of his plan.

3233
02:45:07,942 --> 02:45:09,510
He wanted the glorious,

3234
02:45:09,543 --> 02:45:11,712
insincere guilt
of the self-important

3235
02:45:11,746 --> 02:45:13,215
to wear like a fuckin' crown.

3236
02:45:13,248 --> 02:45:16,684
Say, "No, we cannot
go down this road,"

3237
02:45:16,717 --> 02:45:19,520
even as he knew we'd have to.

3238
02:45:19,553 --> 02:45:21,089
Would you have been opposed
to the dropping

3239
02:45:21,123 --> 02:45:22,790
of a thermonuclear weapon
on Japan

3240
02:45:22,823 --> 02:45:25,060
- because of moral scruples?
- Yes, I believe I would, sir.

3241
02:45:25,093 --> 02:45:26,794
Well, did you oppose
the dropping

3242
02:45:26,827 --> 02:45:28,829
of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima
because of moral scruples?

3243
02:45:28,863 --> 02:45:30,498
We set forth our arguments...

3244
02:45:30,531 --> 02:45:31,933
No, you, you, you.
I'm asking you.

3245
02:45:31,966 --> 02:45:33,601
- I set... I set forth...
- Not we. You, you, you!

3246
02:45:33,634 --> 02:45:35,237
...our arguments
against dropping it,

3247
02:45:35,270 --> 02:45:36,804
but I did not endorse them.

3248
02:45:36,837 --> 02:45:38,539
You mean after
working night and day

3249
02:45:38,572 --> 02:45:39,941
for three years
building the bomb,

3250
02:45:39,974 --> 02:45:41,809
you then argued against
the use of it?

3251
02:45:41,842 --> 02:45:44,545
I was asked
by the Secretary of War

3252
02:45:44,578 --> 02:45:45,947
what the views
of scientists were.

3253
02:45:45,980 --> 02:45:48,716
I gave him the views against
and the views for.

3254
02:45:48,749 --> 02:45:50,751
You supported the dropping
of the atom bomb on Japan.

3255
02:45:50,785 --> 02:45:52,254
- What do you mean "support"?
- Didn't you?

3256
02:45:52,287 --> 02:45:53,754
- You supported it!
- What do you mean "support"?

3257
02:45:53,788 --> 02:45:55,123
Well, you helped
pick the target, didn't you?

3258
02:45:55,157 --> 02:45:56,791
I did my job.

3259
02:45:56,824 --> 02:45:58,559
I was not in a policy-making
position at Los Alamos.

3260
02:45:58,592 --> 02:46:00,228
I would have done anything
I was asked to do.

3261
02:46:00,262 --> 02:46:02,530
Well, then you would have
built the H-bomb too,

3262
02:46:02,563 --> 02:46:03,698
- wouldn't you?
- I couldn't.

3263
02:46:03,731 --> 02:46:05,633
I didn't ask you that, Doctor!

3264
02:46:05,666 --> 02:46:08,002
And the GAC report
which you co-authored

3265
02:46:08,036 --> 02:46:09,904
after the Soviet
atomic test said

3266
02:46:09,937 --> 02:46:12,606
a Super bomb
should never be built!

3267
02:46:12,640 --> 02:46:13,975
What we meant,
what I meant was...

3268
02:46:14,008 --> 02:46:16,078
- What you, who? Who?
- What I meant...

3269
02:46:17,845 --> 02:46:19,281
And wouldn't the Russians
do anything

3270
02:46:19,314 --> 02:46:21,582
to increase their strength?

3271
02:46:21,615 --> 02:46:23,584
If we did it,
they would have to do it.

3272
02:46:23,617 --> 02:46:25,653
Our efforts would only
fuel their efforts,

3273
02:46:25,686 --> 02:46:27,788
just as it had
with the atomic bomb.

3274
02:46:27,822 --> 02:46:31,226
"Just as it had with
the atomic bomb," exactly!

3275
02:46:31,259 --> 02:46:35,997
No moral scruples in 1945,
plenty in 1949.

3276
02:46:40,135 --> 02:46:41,969
Dr. Oppenheimer...

3277
02:46:43,637 --> 02:46:46,241
...when did your strong
moral convictions develop

3278
02:46:46,274 --> 02:46:49,077
with respect
to the hydrogen bomb?

3279
02:46:56,118 --> 02:46:59,021
When it became clear to me

3280
02:46:59,054 --> 02:47:02,690
that we would tend to use
any weapon we had.

3281
02:47:05,127 --> 02:47:07,628
<i>J. Robert Oppenheimer,
the martyr.</i>

3282
02:47:07,661 --> 02:47:10,265
I gave him exactly
what he wanted.

3283
02:47:10,298 --> 02:47:12,566
To be remembered for Trinity,

3284
02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:15,203
not Hiroshima,

3285
02:47:15,237 --> 02:47:17,671
not Nagasaki.

3286
02:47:20,208 --> 02:47:22,910
He should be thanking me.

3287
02:47:22,943 --> 02:47:25,880
Well, he's not.

3288
02:47:27,715 --> 02:47:29,317
Do we still have enough votes,

3289
02:47:29,351 --> 02:47:31,019
or is the crowning moment
of my career

3290
02:47:31,053 --> 02:47:35,190
about to become the most public
humiliation of my life?

3291
02:47:35,223 --> 02:47:37,792
Full Senate's about to vote.

3292
02:47:37,825 --> 02:47:38,993
You'll scrape through.

3293
02:47:39,027 --> 02:47:40,661
Great, then gather
the fucking press.

3294
02:47:40,694 --> 02:47:42,663
Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

3295
02:47:42,696 --> 02:47:45,666
This board, having heard
testimony from you

3296
02:47:45,699 --> 02:47:48,836
and many of your current
and former colleagues,

3297
02:47:48,869 --> 02:47:50,871
has come to
the unanimous conclusion

3298
02:47:50,905 --> 02:47:54,008
that you are a loyal citizen.

3299
02:47:55,310 --> 02:47:56,944
However,

3300
02:47:56,977 --> 02:48:00,614
in the light of
your continuing associations

3301
02:48:00,648 --> 02:48:01,916
and disregard

3302
02:48:01,949 --> 02:48:04,086
for the security apparatus
of this country,

3303
02:48:04,119 --> 02:48:07,655
together with your
somewhat disturbing conduct

3304
02:48:07,688 --> 02:48:10,225
on the hydrogen bomb program

3305
02:48:10,258 --> 02:48:11,792
and the regrettable
lack of candor

3306
02:48:11,826 --> 02:48:14,196
in certain of your responses
to this board,

3307
02:48:14,229 --> 02:48:17,099
we have voted two to one

3308
02:48:17,132 --> 02:48:20,235
to deny the renewal
of your security clearance.

3309
02:48:20,268 --> 02:48:23,371
A full written opinion,
with a dissent from Mr. Evans,

3310
02:48:23,405 --> 02:48:26,907
will be issued to the AEC
in the coming days.

3311
02:48:26,941 --> 02:48:28,609
That is all.

3312
02:48:32,380 --> 02:48:33,714
- Gordon...
- Roger.

3313
02:48:38,752 --> 02:48:40,654
<i>Robert.</i>

3314
02:48:41,289 --> 02:48:42,823
Robert.

3315
02:48:45,293 --> 02:48:46,794
Don't...

3316
02:48:49,164 --> 02:48:52,367
Don't take in the sheets.

3317
02:48:53,767 --> 02:48:55,170
Get a picture with him.

3318
02:48:55,203 --> 02:48:56,438
Sir, sir.

3319
02:48:56,471 --> 02:48:58,939
Two minutes. Two minutes.

3320
02:48:58,973 --> 02:49:00,175
- You'll get your shot.
- Please, sir.

3321
02:49:00,208 --> 02:49:01,775
We've been waiting for so long.

3322
02:49:01,809 --> 02:49:02,810
- Evening, sir.
- Come out.

3323
02:49:02,843 --> 02:49:03,878
Sir, sir!

3324
02:49:03,911 --> 02:49:05,247
Is it official?

3325
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:08,749
Well, there were,

3326
02:49:08,782 --> 02:49:11,919
uh, a couple
of unexpected holdouts.

3327
02:49:16,358 --> 02:49:19,027
I'm denied. Yeah?

3328
02:49:19,060 --> 02:49:21,029
- I'm afraid so, sir.
- All right.

3329
02:49:28,736 --> 02:49:29,803
Who were the holdouts?

3330
02:49:29,837 --> 02:49:32,773
Um, there were three,

3331
02:49:32,806 --> 02:49:35,743
led by the junior senator
from Massachusetts.

3332
02:49:35,776 --> 02:49:37,179
Young guy trying
to make a name for himself,

3333
02:49:37,212 --> 02:49:39,780
didn't like what you did
to Oppenheimer.

3334
02:49:39,813 --> 02:49:40,948
What's his name?

3335
02:49:40,981 --> 02:49:43,185
Uh, Kennedy.

3336
02:49:43,218 --> 02:49:45,020
John F. Kennedy.

3337
02:49:48,490 --> 02:49:49,890
Kitty?

3338
02:49:55,963 --> 02:49:59,367
Did you think that if you
let them tar and feather you,

3339
02:49:59,401 --> 02:50:01,969
that the world
would forgive you?

3340
02:50:05,507 --> 02:50:06,941
It won't.

3341
02:50:09,311 --> 02:50:10,711
We'll see.

3342
02:50:20,488 --> 02:50:22,490
Goddamn it.

3343
02:50:24,025 --> 02:50:26,961
You told me I'd be okay.

3344
02:50:26,994 --> 02:50:29,364
Yeah, well, I didn't have
all the facts, did I?

3345
02:50:29,397 --> 02:50:30,965
Here's a fact.

3346
02:50:30,998 --> 02:50:32,833
President Eisenhower pinned
the Medal of Freedom

3347
02:50:32,866 --> 02:50:34,302
on my chest last year

3348
02:50:34,336 --> 02:50:36,837
'cause I've always done
what's right for this country.

3349
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:39,374
They don't want me
in the Cabinet room?

3350
02:50:39,407 --> 02:50:41,842
Well, that's... that's fine.

3351
02:50:41,875 --> 02:50:44,212
Maybe they should just
invite Oppenheimer instead.

3352
02:50:44,246 --> 02:50:45,280
Maybe they will.

3353
02:50:46,281 --> 02:50:47,515
I told you,

3354
02:50:47,549 --> 02:50:50,185
he turned the scientists
against me one by one,

3355
02:50:50,218 --> 02:50:52,387
starting with Einstein.
I told you about, uh, Einstein.

3356
02:50:52,420 --> 02:50:53,854
I saw him by the pond.

3357
02:50:53,887 --> 02:50:55,390
You did, but you know, sir,

3358
02:50:55,423 --> 02:50:57,425
since nobody really knows

3359
02:50:57,459 --> 02:50:59,094
what they said
to each other that day,

3360
02:50:59,127 --> 02:51:03,164
is it possible they didn't
talk about you at all?

3361
02:51:03,198 --> 02:51:06,334
Is it possible they spoke
about something, uh,

3362
02:51:06,368 --> 02:51:07,801
more important?

3363
02:51:07,835 --> 02:51:09,271
Mr. Strauss!

3364
02:51:12,607 --> 02:51:15,009
Over here! Mr. Strauss!

3365
02:51:18,146 --> 02:51:21,416
Oh.

3366
02:51:22,584 --> 02:51:23,884
Thank you.

3367
02:51:23,917 --> 02:51:26,421
Albert.

3368
02:51:26,454 --> 02:51:28,423
Ah.

3369
02:51:28,456 --> 02:51:30,958
The man of the moment.

3370
02:51:34,062 --> 02:51:37,432
You once held
a-a reception for me.

3371
02:51:37,465 --> 02:51:39,267
In Berkeley.
You gave me an award.

3372
02:51:39,301 --> 02:51:41,169
- Hmm?
- Yes.

3373
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:44,472
You all thought that
I had lost the ability

3374
02:51:44,506 --> 02:51:47,442
to understand what I'd started.

3375
02:51:47,475 --> 02:51:50,911
So the award
really wasn't for me,

3376
02:51:50,944 --> 02:51:53,348
it was for all of you, hmm?

3377
02:51:55,216 --> 02:51:57,218
Now it's your turn

3378
02:51:57,252 --> 02:52:01,955
to deal with the consequences
of your achievement.

3379
02:52:02,890 --> 02:52:04,192
And one day,

3380
02:52:04,225 --> 02:52:06,860
when they've
punished you enough...

3381
02:52:08,263 --> 02:52:12,167
...they'll serve you
salmon and potato salad.

3382
02:52:15,903 --> 02:52:17,938
Make speeches...

3383
02:52:18,972 --> 02:52:20,475
<i>...give you a medal.</i>

3384
02:52:22,177 --> 02:52:24,346
Hello, Frank.

3385
02:52:24,379 --> 02:52:25,613
You're happy, I'm happy.

3386
02:52:32,587 --> 02:52:35,923
<i>Pat you on the back,
tell you all is forgiven.</i>

3387
02:52:37,459 --> 02:52:39,860
<i>Just remember...</i>

3388
02:52:40,495 --> 02:52:42,364
<i>...it won't be for you.</i>

3389
02:52:46,634 --> 02:52:48,269
<i>It'll be for them.</i>

3390
02:53:02,417 --> 02:53:03,951
Albert.

3391
02:53:05,186 --> 02:53:08,656
When I came to you
with those calculations,

3392
02:53:08,690 --> 02:53:10,924
we thought we might
start a chain reaction

3393
02:53:10,958 --> 02:53:14,429
that would destroy
the entire world.

3394
02:53:14,462 --> 02:53:17,931
Mm, I remember it well.

3395
02:53:17,965 --> 02:53:20,034
What of it?

3396
02:53:22,670 --> 02:53:24,406
I believe we did.

3397
02:53:24,430 --> 02:53:31,430
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